[08:15] <tritonas00> is there a serius reason that canonical have chosen to go with mir
[08:17] <tritonas00> why not wayland  ?
[08:18] <tritonas00>  is there a serius reason that canonical have chosen to go with mir? why not wayland  ?
[08:20] <tvoss__> tritonas00, RAOF has written a great series of articles on the subject. You might want to take a look at: http://blog.cooperteam.net/2013/03/artistic-differences.html
[08:22] <tritonas00> thanks  i will read that
[10:12] <davmor2> tvoss__:  screencap is a surface flinger only tool do you know if there is something similar for mir for screenshooting issues?
[12:24] <kgunn> didrocks: ping
[12:30] <kgunn> didrocks: ping (sorry if its a duplicate...not sure i was online)
[12:52] <didrocks> kgunn: you were, I was running, back now
[12:53] <kgunn> didrocks: can u meet now ?
[12:53] <didrocks> kgunn: in 5 minutes? do you want to hangout?
[12:54] <kgunn> didrocks: yeah
[12:54] <kgunn> didrocks: will send you a link
[13:21] <alan_g>  /msg NickServ identify 63%Octopull
[13:25] <ogra_> thanks for yourt password
[13:25] <ogra_> enjoy creating a new one
[13:25] <alan_g> :(
[13:28] <davmor2> guys screencap is a surface flinger only tool do you know if there is something similar for mir for screenshooting issues?
[13:28] <ogra_> mircap ?
[13:28] <ogra_> :)
[13:32] <davmor2> ogra_: there's a cap for mir /me dashes off to the canonical store to buy it instantly
[13:34] <ogra_> haha
[14:17] <robert_ancell> didrocks, hey - we think it will be easier if we bump ABI just before we do the manual push into the archive otherwise our MPs will race to land if each one has an ABI bump. Is there a way to lock the automatic building in Jenkins so I can do the ABI bump and then tell you to take that to archive? Then you'd re-enable the building once that occurs
[14:18] <didrocks> robert_ancell: so basically, you don't want to daily release, but on demand release only
[14:18] <robert_ancell> didrocks, or was the idea to daily release from Mir trunk and get rid of the new PPA?
[14:18] <didrocks> robert_ancell: right, that's for Mir trunk
[14:18] <didrocks> and once you finish your sprint
[14:18] <didrocks> we get rid of the new PPA
[14:18] <didrocks> the new PPA is just for this week
[14:18] <didrocks> to get you isolated
[14:19] <robert_ancell> didrocks, ok. Sounds good, I'll re-discuss with the team here
[14:19] <didrocks> ok
[14:19] <robert_ancell> kgunn, ^
[14:31] <didrocks> kgunn: robert_ancell: btw: https://launchpadlibrarian.net/150495448/buildlog_ubuntu-saucy-i386.mir_0.0.10%2B13.10.20130917-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[14:31] <didrocks> (so no Mir yet in the ppa)
[14:32] <robert_ancell> didrocks, so, back to the issue this week - there will be a race between the soname MP and getting it to archive - do we just solve this by timing it between you and me?
[14:32] <robert_ancell> carefully timing it I mean
[14:33] <didrocks> robert_ancell: what issue? you will bump the build-dep, isn't it?
[14:33] <didrocks> so the rest will rebuild
[14:33] <didrocks> isn't it?
[14:36] <didrocks> or you are talking about libmirclient, which has stuff dep on it not in the archive?
[14:47] <robert_ancell> didrocks, the issue is you pull from trunk right? So if another MP has landed then you will pick up that change by accident
[14:50] <didrocks> robert_ancell: well, it's not an accident, you put it to trunk
[14:50] <didrocks> so it's releasable as per the process
[14:52] <didrocks> robert_ancell: making sense? I'll drop in 8 minutes, so please answers before ;)
[15:52] <kgunn> Mirv: sil2100 ...hey guys....didrocks dropped, but i wanted to kick another build for the mir package https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-unity/+archive/experimental-prevalidation/+packages
[15:52] <kgunn> belief is the i386 build test that failed is intermitent
[15:56] <mterry> robert_ancell, what the heck with boost; I've lived in C land so long, this is all gobblygook
[15:56] <robert_ancell> mterry, yeah, it's boost
[15:56] <mterry> Just let me set open permissions!
[15:56] <sil2100> kgunn: I'll take a look in a moment
[15:56] <kgunn> sil2100: thanks much
[15:57] <mterry> But I probably need an open-permissions-service-factor object
[15:57] <kgunn> sil2100: nothing change between that and whats in archive..so...
[16:15] <mterry> robert_ancell, guh you had to make the_socket_file() private...
[16:17] <mterry> robert_ancell, so I was thinking of just chmod'ing the socket from USC?  Since this seemed like a special case of Mir, I wasn't sure I wanted to put it directly in libmirserver...  Also, boost didn't seem to make it easy to set socket permissions at open (unless I want to mess with umask)
[16:17] <robert_ancell> mterry, yeah, that seems safe to me - you're dropping permissions rather than increasing them
[16:18] <mterry> right, no race to worry about
[16:18] <robert_ancell> mterry, and u-s-c considers that it knows the correct name of the socket, so it would be a critical error if Mir didn't use the requested name
[16:19] <mterry> robert_ancell, how does USC know the socket name?  I can't just call the_socket_file(), but could re-discover it via the_options()
[16:19] <robert_ancell> mterry, yeah, you'd have to look in the_options()
[16:19] <mterry> robert_ancell, that's fine, but it duplicates the default value :(
[16:19]  * mterry starts with that
[16:20] <robert_ancell> mterry, you can consider it a critical error if it's not set if that helps
[16:20] <robert_ancell> mterry, lightdm will always set the socket name
[16:23] <mterry> robert_ancell, eh, that's fair
[16:24] <mterry> but doesn't hurt to have a fallback either
[17:11] <alan_g> kgunn: who did you talk to about the android tests? We're seeing what look like setup problems: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/mir-saucy-armhf-ci/7/console
[17:11] <kgunn> alan_g: join #ubuntu-ci-eng with me
[17:12] <alan_g> kgunn: done
[17:32] <sil2100> kgunn: ok, getting back to the Mir issue now ;)
[17:33] <kgunn> sil2100: yes...thanks
[17:36] <kgunn> sil2100: i also noticed in that same ppa, unity7 didn't build... https://launchpadlibrarian.net/139999825/buildlog_ubuntu-raring-amd64.unity_7.0.0daily13.05.16ubuntu.unity.experimental.certified-0ubuntu1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[17:36] <kgunn> complaining about dep's
[18:02] <ricmm> racarr: ping
[18:02] <ricmm> racarr: do you have an old imge running on your phone by any chance?
[18:06] <sil2100> kgunn: it was a transient issue, building now
[18:07] <xjunior> hey, a question about mir: Is it planned to make multitouch configurable?
[18:11] <xjunior> maybe it's more unity than mir
[18:39] <alan_g> mterry: lp:~alan-griffiths/mir/fix-nested-on-android
[19:47] <robotfuel> kgunn: https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-system-compositor/+bug/1218932