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ironfoot495is there anyone who understands this?00:00
UserError!bugs00:00
ubottuIf you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.00:00
OldTexas!wireless00:01
ubottuWireless documentation, including how-to guides and troubleshooting information, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs00:01
kangpingCould anyone please help me to set up bumblebee properly? This is giving me gray hair ;)00:02
OerHeksironfoot495, all we know is "syntax error near unexpected token `" so what is the script you are running?00:02
OldTexas!bumblebee00:02
kangpingOldTexas: does this mean you can help? Or are you sending me somewhere else? Sorry, haven't been on irc in years00:04
OldTexaskangping, there is a bot here that if you have and issue you can sometimes type !issue and get help.  I was seeing if there was anything for you in the bot00:06
OerHekskangping, this page is a good start https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee00:06
kangpingOerHeks: have been there. Done that. But I always get a low graphics version, that throws me unto the command line00:07
kangpingPurging bumblebees packages won't set me back to defaults either... So every time I want to try a solution I'm reinstalling the os00:08
SunshineNFreedomI should really switch back to ubuntu again... I enjoy this body cast they call windows though xD00:08
OldTexasouch00:08
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kangpingThanks OldTexas . I guess there wasn't anything in there, huh ;)00:08
OldTexasnothing came up, sorry00:09
kangpingIt seems like there are a billion problems and as many solutions. If I could just get back to the "regular" state running nouveau (or whatever it is)... That would already be a huge step in the right direction.00:10
MGHackeralquem brasileiro ae00:11
OerHeks!br00:11
ubottuPor favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.00:11
OldTexasno fallo00:11
vergineeee00:15
Avgvahey00:17
knifes1234feet00:20
cortexmancan I extend /dev/sda1 in this gparted image to use all of the unallocated space? http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=27111900:21
RonusHead?00:21
knifes1234hello00:21
SunshineNFreedomToes?00:21
Avgvatest00:21
kangpingMaybe I should change my question to: how can I get back to an earlier state of my installation. A more ... Functional state00:22
pmitrosWhat's the best way to share files between Ubuntu machines? I'd like to have some kind of mount. In an ideal case, it would be secure, reasonably fault-tolerant, and reasonably easy to set up and maintain (if it can reuse existing servers I have -- like ssh or http -- that's ideal; but something that it's own server is okay too).00:22
JapellaWhat's the best way to share files between Ubuntu machines? I'd like to have some kind of mount. In an ideal case, it would be secure, reasonably fault-tolerant, and reasonably easy to set up and maintain (if it can reuse existing servers I have  like ssh or http  that's ideal; but something that it's own server is okay too). now has -1 karma00:22
Avgvatest00:22
jribpmitros: define "secure"00:22
alpha_Ari : I installed that00:23
pmitrosjrib: The key thing is that I don't want something remotely exploitable. If I install a server that has regular zero-days and issues like that, it's a big problem. The #2 -- and less important thing -- is that files are transferred in a cryptosecure manner.00:24
Japellajrib: The key thing is that I don't want something remotely exploitable. If I install a server that has regular zero-days and issues like that, it's a big problem. The #2  and less important thing  is that files are transferred in a cryptosecure manner. now has -1 karma00:24
Ari-Yangalpha_, oh? the kernel 3.11 .deb? okay open up terminal and run uname -r what do you get?00:24
jribpmitros: you're sending traffic over the internet (not just your lan)?00:24
alpha_3.11.1-031101-generic00:24
pmitrosjrib: Something like sshfs is ideal; it doesn't open anything new -- but I've had stability issues with it with intermittent networks.00:25
Japellajrib: Something like sshfs is ideal; it doesn't open anything new  but I've had stability issues with it with intermittent networks. now has -1 karma00:25
Ari-Yangalpha_, okay, now are you using any proprietary wifi driver? like broadcam00:25
pmitrosjrib: Major use case is on my LAN, but it'd be nice to have an off-site server for backups, in which case it'd be going over super-insecure internet.00:25
alpha_no but my wifi LED always is on and it cant be off00:25
knifes12343.5.0-40-generic00:25
Ari-Yangalpha_, no that's now what I mean...00:26
jribpmitros: well either use sshfs or sftp or (setup nfs or samba and a vpn)00:26
knifes1234haha00:26
Ari-Yangalpha_, chances are you aren't, go on ahead and reboot... the GRUB menu will appear, select ubuntu from it or wait 'til it times out00:26
Ari-Yangalpha_, after rebooting, come back here and tell me how it works out00:26
k1l_knifes1234: could you please reduce the offtopic commands and stay focused on the technical support?00:27
alpha_i rebooted00:27
DesignerXhi everyone00:27
Avgvahey00:27
Avgvawhat's up00:27
alpha_first i installed the .deb kernel 3.11 and then i rebooted laptop00:27
knifes1234hey00:27
pmitrosjrib: The server is running ssh and nginx. nginx+https+digest auth would work well, if there's anything that does that. Advantage would be better tolerance for internet going down.00:27
Ari-Yangalpha_, oh you did? laptop not running hot anymore? type sensors in terminal and pastebin it for me00:28
DesignerXI need help with 'casper-rw file' .. I need more detaild info about it & how can I "Manually" have  an ISO boot & detect casper-rw file  ?00:28
OpusContinuumSo what alternatives to ath5k wifi driver is there? I have a  US dlink DWL-G510 Rev. B00:28
pmitrosjrib: sshfs (and that's the only way I know to do an sftp mount as well) fails if the internet connection is momentarily down (or at least it did a few years back when I last tried it).00:28
alpha_it seemt to be much cool00:29
DesignerXall guides say I need to format my USB & then use Universal installed fore linux & check the casper-rw option.. what If I already have ubuntu iso running from my USB, how can i create that file & start saving to it ?00:29
Ari-Yangalpha_, type dmesg | grep dpm in terminal and pastebin it00:29
pmitrosOh. Interesting sshfs now has a reconnect option!00:30
knifes1234i install Ubuntu 12.10 it OK00:31
alpha_Ari : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6117286/00:31
alpha_sonsor and latest expression00:31
alpha_sensors*00:31
Ari-Yangalpha_, yep it worked, enjoy your non-heating laptop00:31
alpha_is it normal ?00:31
Ari-Yangalpha, dpm initialized, dynamic power management00:32
Ari-Yangit worked00:32
cortexmancan I extend /dev/sda1 in this gparted image to use all of the unallocated space? http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=271119   somehow I need to get the unallocated space to be adjacent to /dev/sda100:32
Ari-Yangalpha_, also take a look at dmesg | grep power00:32
pmitrosjrib: Thanks.00:32
Ari-Yangalpha_, take a look at this also: www.botchco.com/agd5f/?p=5700:32
hadwickHi all,  i am running version 12.04. I recently suffered a power outage and now am having trouble booting. Right now the boot process is hanging at netbios name server. Any help? I'm not doing so well on Google. Thanks in advance.00:32
alpha_Ari : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6117287/00:33
Ari-Yangalpha_, okay, that's all, your laptop shouldn't heat up anymore00:33
Ari-YangI'm off~00:34
Avgvatesting00:34
wilee-nileeDesignerX, You might look here to see several options, it easier to do all this when you make the usb, you can have more than 4 gigs persistence if you have a usb big enough by using a partition. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence#Creating_the_.22casper-rw.22_File_System00:34
alpha_can it be more decreased ?00:34
DesignerXwilee-nilee: ty, the plan is NOt to use a parition but to use a file which I can copy/move later to a differnt location00:35
wilee-nileeDesignerX, Live usb's have their limitations though, no kernel upgrades it is just the iso and added installs or upgrades, and the casper will fill up and is not really cleanable efficiently.00:35
BuJitsuBrownhi how can i find the name of my sound card?00:36
alpha_Ari : can it be more decreased ?00:36
wilee-nileeDesignerX, Moving the casper makes no sense00:36
whoeverhi all , I am tring to convert an mkv to iso with mkisfs and i keep getting the error that allow-limit-size is not specified the command i am usinag is mkisofs -dvd-video <infil> <outfile>   can someone assist00:36
Ari-Yangalpha_, *shrugs* dunno00:36
Ari-Yangwhy? :|00:36
DesignerXwilee-nilee: shouldnt copying the file have all the setting & changes made ? this way I can configur Ubuntu & copy the changes to many USBs/harddrives ?00:37
alpha_because it's hot now 58 'C00:37
Ari-Yangalpha_, the point of DPM is so that the gpu clocks up when it's needed and clocked down when more power isn't needed,that will prevent unnecessary heating00:37
alpha_i want to be about 45 'C00:37
Ari-Yangalpha_, pastebin me a new sensors output...00:38
Ari-Yangalpha_, what kind of laptop is this? core 2 duo? i3? i5?00:38
wilee-nileeDesignerX, This is not an install but a live ISO, do a full install if you want that. a live environment has a lot of limitations. Theoretically possible yes, but not sure why one would want to even use it that way.00:38
alpha_Ari : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6117300/00:38
alpha_Ari : Core i 5 3210-M --------- HP ProBook 4540 15.6"00:39
Avgvajaaadoooooooooo00:39
Avgvatesting00:40
DesignerXwilee-nilee: well, the 1st is the install size  1Gb vs 7+GB . Most of the required things are just internet access , teamviewer, Skype & text editor00:40
Ari-Yangalpha_, your laptop's temp is fine... look at your old sensors http://paste.ubuntu.com/6117208/ and your new one http://paste.ubuntu.com/6117300/00:40
Ari-Yangyour gpu is about 10-11 degrees less00:40
k1l_Avgva: could you please stop that testing in this channel?00:40
wilee-nileeDesignerX, Get a 8 gig or bigger usb and do a full install and you can clone it to another. That casper is the crux it fills up.00:40
Avgvaalright sorry00:40
DesignerXwilee-nilee: On a bigger US (32 GB),  the only thing stopping me from a full install is not bieing able to install to a subfolder alonf side other linux distros00:40
AdieAMD or Nvidia GPU?00:40
DesignerXalong *00:40
Ari-YangAdie, AMD or nVidia for what?00:41
wilee-nileeDesignerX, Along side I'm not sure what you mean.00:41
BuJitsuBrownhi how can i find the name of my sound card?00:41
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AdieAri-Yang, for ubuntu00:41
Ari-Yangif you mean what to get.... tbh I'd recommend nVidia for linux00:41
Adiekk00:41
DesignerXwilee-nilee: having  Uvuntu, Mint & Puppy on one USB  for example00:41
alpha_Ari : yes ... thanks ... but what does temp6 = 127 mean ?00:41
Ari-YangAdie, though AMD has better open source support right now00:41
wilee-nileeDesignerX, Yes you can multiple live or multiple installs.00:42
Ari-Yangalpha_, tbh I'm not sure what temp6 is :V00:42
DesignerXwilee-nilee: I cant find a way to install Ubuntu in a subfolder on my USB ..00:42
DesignerXwilee-nilee: oh ! any links please ;)00:42
Ari-Yangalpha_, it looks like it will always be that high... temp1-5 are no where neat hitting critical, so that's good00:42
alpha_Ari : how can i be a expert like you about linux ?00:42
wilee-nileeDesignerX, You could have a install and boot live ISO's with grub, what links exactly?00:43
Ari-Yangalpha_, lol I'm no expert at all, I'm still learning myself xD Though, to be better, do a lot of googling and don't be afraid to ask questions.00:43
Ari-Yangalpha_, you could also hang around here to, you'll learn a lot.00:43
DesignerXwilee-nilee: installing more then one distro on one USB/1Partition .. I think it will mean having each distro in a subfolder00:44
alpha_Ari : Do you know about programming ?00:44
Ari-Yangalpha_, I know a little... but I'm still learning myself.00:44
alpha_ok00:44
alpha_Ari : Can I add You ?00:44
Ari-Yangalpha_, btw you could join #ubuntu-offtopic for offtopic discussions etc., you can say that's the "lounge area"00:45
Ari-Yangalpha_, add me on what?00:45
alpha_on IRC - Xchat00:45
wilee-nileeDesignerX, here is my favorite multi live to start with. http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/  On a usb dual bopoting is the same as a hard drive you just have to make sure grub is put in its mbr.00:45
wilee-nileebooting*00:45
wilee-nileeDesignerX, Do you know how to dualboot?00:46
Ari-Yangalpha_, uh, sure... I'm not sure how you would do that, but on hexchat it looks like you can just right click on the nick and select "add friend"00:46
Ari-Yangso you'd right click on my nickname...00:46
DesignerXwilee-nilee: I use grub4dos .. I still need to learn more how to add entries to the menu list00:46
DesignerXmenu.lst *00:47
wilee-nileeDesignerX, grub4dos is a windows use you don;t need it in linux.00:47
DesignerXwilee-nilee: my USN is fat32, I though I need to use it for such filesystem ? & isnt the  menu.lst work the same?00:47
wilee-nileeDesignerX, menu.lst is grub legacy we have grub 2 now i has the os-prober it finds the other OS's.00:47
DesignerXwoow .. ok, guess time to get that00:48
wilee-nileeDesignerX, fat32 is for ISO's you would use ext4 or 3 for full installs.00:48
wilee-nileeDesignerX, If you have a ubuntu instal I would just use the multisystem iso loader in general, you can load iso till the usb is full.00:49
wilee-nileegotta reboot back to linux00:51
whoever 4 down vote00:54
whoever00:54
whoever ffmpeg -i "input.mkv" -f avi -c:v mpeg4 -b:v 4000k -c:a libmp3lame -b:a 320k "converted.avi"00:54
GoatmanWhy is Ubuntu’s default not to fsck the root filesystem on boot?00:55
GoatmanIs this a bug? Should I open a ticket?00:55
DesignerXwilee , u back ?00:57
wilee-nileeGoatman, Iy has been discontinued, you can do it youself.00:58
wilee-nileeDesignerX, yes00:58
wilee-nileeIt*00:58
DesignerXWB :D00:58
wilee-nileesure ;)00:58
kryshi guys. i'm sitting in the middle of a university course on unix. i have no idea what i'm doing. can anyone point to any explanations?00:59
DesignerXNow I have most details needed to create a new Multiboot USB with Grub 200:59
nibalizeruh00:59
nibalizerkrys: man bash00:59
DesignerXwill using Puppy slacko to create the Grub2  is the same ?00:59
wilee-nileeDesignerX, multiboot ISO's or installs?00:59
DesignerXfor now ISO's01:00
wilee-nileeDesignerX, You have a ubuntu install perchance?01:00
krysi do not have a CD drive to install ubuntu from01:00
DesignerXOnly in a VM, which I can connect the USB to it if needed01:00
krysor a USB01:00
wilee-nileeDesignerX, Use this from the vm. http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/01:01
wilee-nileemuch easier, use gparted to format the usb to fat32 is all.01:01
wilee-nileeeasy as pie, loads the iso and grub on each iso install01:02
wilee-nileekrys, For help you need to be specific is all.01:03
DesignerXwilee-nilee: ty very very much .. alot of useful info , time for me to test & get back to you with more problems lolz :D01:04
wilee-nileecool, enjoy01:04
DesignerXkrys: not sure exactly what you need but this may help ? http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/01:05
wilee-nileekrys, You could do a vm of ubuntu if needed.01:05
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wilee-nileekrys, unix and linux are similiar in many ways but different though, there are unix channels on freenode.01:06
Dr_Willisthat Multiboot is very handy at pendrivelinux.  it does pull in a LOT of dependencies to get it up on ubuntu.01:06
krysthanks DesignerX. i don't know how to PM!01:06
wilee-nileeDr_Willis, I don't see any dependencies added on a ubuntu desktop install, or the shell install, not sure what you mean.01:08
wilee-nileeit does a apt update though01:08
wilee-nileemaybe I missed them. lol01:08
krysi'd like an installation from a partitioned drive. is this possible? (using that instead of CD/USB)01:09
wilee-nileekrys, really your best tool is having a cd or usb overall.01:09
wilee-nileeit can fix any number of problems01:10
wilee-nileewithout this you are driving without a spare01:10
krysthanks. i'll grab a USB sometime tomorrow01:11
krysor a CD01:11
wilee-nileekrys, Check the ISO size chances are you needa dvd01:12
krysISO size?01:12
wilee-nileeusb is best though in general01:12
wilee-nileekrys, YOu download ubuntu in a ISO format, it has been slightly bigger thaan a cd's limit for several releases is all.01:13
Dr_Williswilee-nilee:  im thinking of --> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/    'multisystem'  ;)01:13
kryswilee-nilee, ok01:14
krysi will get a USB! thanks01:14
Dr_Williskrys:  you can set up grub and iso files to boot from a Hard drive  and install to a differnt hard drive I do that with my systenms and a large /boot/ partition01:14
Dr_Williskrys:  this way i have like a 'live-cd-recovery' entry in grub  so i can boot and fix things, or try other live cds01:14
Dr_Willisor reinstall.. quickly01:15
wilee-nileeDr_Willis, I never noticed any dependencies when I install it using my gnome shell, however I see the apt update, maybe man fanboi use is blind to them. ;)01:15
wilee-nileemy*01:15
krysDr_Willis: are there any risks to your current hard drive?01:15
Dr_Williswilee-nilee:  i installed it the other day on a clean ubuntu install. pulled in several dozen packages about 200+mb total.  I noticed because i was teathered to my phone01:15
Dr_Williskrys:  if you format the hd by mistake. ;P01:15
DongitstuI have dual boot fedora and ubuntu, and I updated my ubuntu distro and now it wont recognize fedora01:15
wilee-nileeAh I will have to look closer, I just use it without looking real cloe.01:16
Dr_Williskrys:  my /boot/ was on its own partion. i was sure to tell the installer to  install to the OTHER hard drive.01:16
Dongitstualso my ubuntu distro won't connect to the internet01:16
krysDr_Willis: i don't lan on doing that!01:16
wilee-nileeclose*01:16
rldanyone using xorg-edgers drivers on 12.04?01:16
krysplan*01:16
Dr_Williskrys:  people rarely do.. :) but mistakes happen01:16
wilee-nileerld, PPA's are not technically supported here.01:16
krysDr_Willis: yes, ty for the heads-up :P01:17
wilee-nileeDongitstu, mount fedore and run sudo update-grub01:17
rldoh well, I just can't change my refresh rate in the display settings01:17
wilee-nileefedora*01:17
delinquentmeinitialize a python script on a slave computer from a master computer over network /??01:20
nerdtrondelinquentme, ssh to the slave computer and execute the script?01:21
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delinquentmenerdtron, now if I want to get the output logs from the slave ... written into a file on the master01:23
delinquentmesudo python carls_stepper.py >> stepper_logging.txt &01:23
delinquentmesomething like this01:23
hamnstarhey folks - trying to get a ubuntu server up and running, on my simple 192.168.50.X LAN.  However, once i configure the ethernet card, I cannot ping anything nor can anything ping it... wiresharking the switch shows arp requests that go unanswered.  Mad brownie points to anyone who can tell me what is going on????01:24
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bazhanghamnstar, try #ubuntu-server01:24
hamnstarbazhang:ah, thx01:24
hamnstarfwiw, ubuntu desktop works without a hitch... but the same-version server OS has issues :/01:25
nerdtronhamnstar, try deleting the /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net file and reboot after you change to a static address01:27
nerdtrondelinquentme, not quite sure about the syntax but you can pipe the log file output via ssh01:27
lotuspsychjemorning to all01:29
nerdtronmorning01:29
overcluckerdelinquentme: ssh user@host | tee -a session.log01:29
nerdtrondelinquentme, ssh user@host 'tail -f /path/log.txt' >> localcopy.log.txt01:31
lotuspsychjeim looking for a groovebox package for ubuntu, something similar to roland 50501:33
lotuspsychjeive tested hydrogen and lmms, but looking for a little less complicated01:34
hamnstarhydrogen is about as easy as she gets01:35
balazs_Hi. Does anyone know a tool to measure how much time one spends in front of the computer. Something like all the periods when there was a keyboard or mouse activity. Say 2 minutes idleness would mean that you're not in front of the computer.01:35
hamnstarfrom what ive used, anyway01:35
furoidoguys.. can you recommend a photo handler app?01:35
lotuspsychjehamnstar: tnx for feedback mate01:36
hamnstarnerdtron:  removing the 70-persistent-net file + reboot didn't seem to do anything01:36
lotuspsychjebalazs_: apt-cache search time01:36
lotuspsychje!info xtime01:36
ubottuPackage xtime does not exist in raring01:37
bazhangfuroido, shotwell01:37
somsipbalazs_: workrave might give you what you want01:37
furoidobazhang, does it resize uploads?01:37
bazhangfuroido, uploads to where01:37
balazs_somsip: thans; checking it out01:38
furoidoi mean like when you upload large photos on the web, it should be resize to smaller size01:38
furoidobazhang, something like facebook upload01:39
RalliasSo... umm... I just accidently stumbled upon a major security oversight with ubuntu's paid software system... who's the proper person to notify?01:39
hamnstarhmmm.... now im seeing arp replies but still get destination unreachable on ping's....01:39
bazhangfuroido, no idea sorry01:39
bazhangRallias, file a bug01:39
bazhang!bug | Rallias01:39
ubottuRallias: If you find a bug in Ubuntu or any of its derivatives, please file a bug using the command « ubuntu-bug <package> » - See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs for other ways to report bugs.01:39
lotuspsychjehamnstar: what are you trying to find out?01:40
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lotuspsychjefuroido: like bazhang says, you can resize a picture with shotwell, then upload it to your fb01:42
hamnstarlotuspsychje:  my ubuntu server install cant respond/get pings on my LAN... I only have two hosts on a switch, and i can see the arp requests and replies, but im still getting "Destination host unreachable"01:42
lotuspsychjehamnstar: you might wanna try asking in #ubuntu-server or the ##networking guys01:42
hamnstarlotuspsyche: thanks, more brains to pick :)01:44
lotuspsychjehamnstar: maybe if you detail your LAN layout someone might understand better where you want to go?01:45
lotuspsychjehamnstar: other hosts are win or ubuntu?01:46
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hamnstarlotuspyschje:  one host is ubu server 12.04, other is ubu desktop 12.04... LAN is distilled to the simplest, 2 hosts on a layer-2 dumb switch01:47
lotuspsychjehamnstar: firewall or router block?01:47
furoidolotuspsychje, what i mean is, when you upload a photo, it would automatically be resized.. no need for facebook thing01:48
hamnstarlotuspsyche: trying with a live cd on the offending host now to rule out hardware issues.... one sec, let me flush iptables and try again01:48
lotuspsychjefuroido: maybe this can help? http://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/upload-photos-videos-to-facebook-from-ubuntu-desktop/01:53
furoidolotuspsychje, oh no, im not referring to facebook01:54
pepper_chicoanyone knows a good email client for linux? thunderbird is stupid, whenever I open it, I can't let it open because it consumes too much RAM and CPU, my mail boxes are big, and the stupid thunderbird never stop downloading the messages, and never finishes this01:59
Susy_40_Inglesahello01:59
lotuspsychje!info geary | pepper_chico01:59
ubottupepper_chico: geary (source: geary): email client. In component universe, is extra. Version 0.3.1-0ubuntu1 (raring), package size 1113 kB, installed size 4085 kB01:59
hamnstarOk, question for the real die-hards here... My static IP LAN network settings work in ubuntu 12.04 desktop (via livecd), but not in ubuntu 12.04 server.  I'm thinking its a driver issue?  Does this sound credible?01:59
IrcDroidClienthello02:01
Darkeninghey...02:02
reisio'lo02:02
Darkeninganyone around?02:02
Darkeninghey reiso02:02
hipitihopIf I have a mount .e.g. /media/fs_share which was provided by a VirtualBox shared folder, but I need sudo to see it, what is the correct way to gain normal user access to that mount. i..e should I mount /media/fs_share to /home/<user>/<anothermount> or should I change ownership of /media/fs_share or some other way. What is the correct linux way02:02
IrcDroidClientI installed ubuntu over windows but did not format the recovery partition. on rebooting I get the windows recovery screen. do I need to remove the recovery partition as well?02:03
reisiohipitihop: chown or chmod02:03
reisiohipitihop: recursively, if required02:03
reisiohipitihop: or if you're using /etc/fstab (you probably aren't), you can set particular opts02:03
pepper_chicolotuspsychje, will try it now02:04
wilee-nileeIrcDroidClient, This happen to be W8 you removed?02:04
IrcDroidClientwilee-nilee yes02:04
DarkeningSo... I dual boot windows 7 and xubuntu, I was trying to start up windows earlier today and it froze a couple of times on the windows symbol, so, the next time I started it up I did something dumb and ran the windows startup repair thing it offered me, after it rebooted all I got was a black screen saying, "No such partition, Grub rescue>" and I really have no idea what to do about this...02:04
wilee-nileeIrcDroidClient, You most likely have uefi setup, did you know that?02:04
IrcDroidClientyes. I installed with legacy mode enabled02:05
Dr_Willis!fixgrub | Darkening02:05
ubottuDarkening: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub202:05
IrcDroidClient@wilee-nilee02:05
pepper_chicolotuspsychje, thanks a million, this is much much better02:06
lotuspsychjepepper_chico: np mate02:06
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pepper_chicowow, I can't understand how people continues with thunderbird, it's awful02:06
f00bar80i'm on ubuntu 12.10 and installed  libqt4-qt3support, but when tried to install software package, i got the error qt3 runtime library is required, any idea what's wrong?02:06
wilee-nileeDarkening, boot a live cd and use the bootrepair app to run just the bootinfo summary to get the url generated to it, or if you like use the repair. the bot has it in its info. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair02:07
pepper_chiconow, I'll look up the thunderbird generated trash to try clean it up02:07
pepper_chicoand just remove it02:07
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DarkeningI tried reinstalling it off my liveusb of ubuntu and it just told me boot error. and !fixgrub just gets me unknown command02:08
lotuspsychjepepper_chico: try #ubuntu-offtopic for likes/dislikes02:08
wilee-nileeIrcDroidClient, Cool, we had a user here yesterday who did this but had to wipe the HD and format it to msdos to get a install, I'm not sure removing just the recovery partition is the answer here.02:08
IrcDroidClient@wilee-nilee  you mean I'll have to do a fresh install with a full wipe?02:09
Dr_Willisand by full wipe - we mean zeroing out the drive :)02:09
wilee-nileeIrcDroidClient, I'm not sure to be honest I have not had to mess with a uefi computer yet, luckily.02:09
Dr_Willisvia use of the dd, or other commands.02:10
wilee-nileegotta get this gpt remnants02:10
wilee-nileethose*02:10
f00bar80ppl any comment ?.02:11
nerssi7My wireless card won't wake after my computer comes out of standby. I've looked up solutions but none of them have worked. I think my case is overcomplicated because I also use the ndiswrapper driver (because the normal one freezes the computer when it's on battery power). Can anyone help? This is on Linux Mint btw, but people on Ubuntu apparently have the same problem when dealing with Realtek hardware.02:11
wilee-nileesure I like coffee more tha tea.02:11
IrcDroidClientokay. will definitely do that today. good thing its a fresh install.02:11
lotuspsychjewilee-nilee: ive formatted one win8 machine lately with uefi and ubuntu installed out of the box, even no bios changement needed (for that machine)02:11
IrcDroidClient@wilee-nilee  and @Dr_Willis  thanks :)02:11
Darkeninghow do I use that bootrepair thing if I can't get into my actual os?02:12
wilee-nileeDarkening, Live cd02:12
Dr_WillisDarkening:  you use a Live cd - theres even boot repair cd's that have it included02:12
lotuspsychje!mint | nerssi702:12
ubottunerssi7: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org02:12
Dr_WillisDarkening:  theres also a ubuntu secure remix that has it included02:12
wilee-nileelotuspsychje, Cool, the user removed the W8 OS is all, The problem I have seen with these uefi setuos is the manufacturers versions of them it seems.02:13
lotuspsychjenerssi7: we can recommend you installing an ubuntu version from topic02:13
wilee-nileesetups*02:13
IrcDroidClientmine boots only after I select boot options and select ubuntu. else it tries to boot windows by default every time02:13
delinquentmeoverclucker, so I just realized that I want to disconnect from the session ... and still have the master machine logging the output from the slave ... after I've killed the SSH connection I accessed the master machine with02:13
lotuspsychjeIrcDroidClient: did you disable secure boot from bios?02:14
nerssi7ubottu: the Linux mint people have been very unhelpful unfortunately. The reason I use Linux Mint is because it's extremely lite on my low powered netbook. Ubuntu didn't run very well.02:14
ubottunerssi7: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)02:14
wilee-nileeIrcDroidClient, I would use it as is if it were me unless you have the W8 OS backed up, you never know if you might want to get rid of it with W8 back on.02:14
lotuspsychjenerssi7: try lubuntu or xubuntu02:14
IrcDroidClient@lotuspsychje  yes I did. a02:15
wilee-nileeIrcDroidClient, You can tab complete nicks.02:15
IrcDroidClientenabled legacy support too02:15
nerssi7do lubuntu or xubuntu have something as minimal as the mate desktop I can use with mint?02:15
IrcDroidClient@wilee-nilee  for some reason my nick isn't showing02:16
lotuspsychjenerssi7: yes they are very low resources02:16
wilee-nileenerssi7, No mate, but cinnamon is in the raring repos.02:16
wilee-nileeIrcDroidClient, others nicks I mean02:16
nerssi7wilee-nilee: isn't cinnamon the heaviest desktop manager?02:17
wilee-nileenerssi7, NO idea I used it for 5 min just to see it, never been a mint user.02:17
lotuspsychjeneither do i02:17
IrcDroidClient@wilee-nilee  I'm sorry I don't understand :)02:17
wilee-nileelubuntu is the lightest or its source lxde02:18
nerssi7ok I'll look into it02:18
wilee-nilee!tab | IrcDroidClient we don't use @02:18
ubottuIrcDroidClient we don't use @: You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.02:18
wilee-nileenerssi7, There are even lighter desktops, but these are canonical release de's02:19
IrcDroidClientwilee-nilee  okay. sorry :) my bad. I'm typing with a phone though02:19
nerssi7There's nothing really wrong with Linux Mint, it's probably my favourite I've used so far (other than Debian), it's just this stupid wireless card problem. And I'm not convinced that it will be different on any other distro so I'm a bit reluctant to redo everything :(02:19
wilee-nileeIrcDroidClient, No problem just wanted you to know the options. ;)02:19
wilee-nileenerssi7, Never said there was I used ubuntu long before mint was around is all.02:20
IrcDroidClientwilee-nilee  do you know how I can make my nick show?02:21
wilee-nileeIrcDroidClient, I see it, what irc app are you using?02:21
OerHeks /whoami02:22
IrcDroidClientwilee-nilee , ircdroid02:22
wilee-nileeIrcDroidClient, On my nexus 7 or dna smart phone I use yaaic androidirc both show all user nicks02:23
wilee-nileeor*02:23
nerssi7I'm honestly thinking of just reinstalling Windows XP, if only for the reason that I know it WILL work, gotta figure out how to do it via USB now though02:23
Sand|awayIm using Windows XP atm02:24
nerssi7because my main machine is OSX (on it right now) and I remotely program with my old netbook, I just liked having Linux because of how similar it is to OSX02:24
nerssi7and there's a lot of stuff that I really don't like about Windows02:24
IrcDroidClientwilee-nilee  thanks. will try either02:24
wilee-nileexp is eol in less than 200 days02:25
UserErrornerssi, if you like OSX use elementaryOS02:25
nerssi7having a really small Macbook Air would be ideal for outside programming but it costs a bit too much $$ at the moment02:25
UserErrorSo buy a Pixel for 500~ on ebay02:25
UserErroror like 3-4 ina  month or two02:25
Ari-Yangnerssi7, replace XP with Linux distro...02:26
wilee-nileeUserError, very little support for that os.02:26
UserErrorUh, not really02:26
Ari-Yangif XP is on it, I'll assume it has like 500MB ram, so I'd say throw lubuntu on it or something02:26
UserErrorThe devs actually listen to you02:26
UserErrorand it has less total bugs than unity ATM02:26
lotuspsychjeguys lets keep this ubuntu support02:26
wilee-nileeUserError, Cool, we just see people here wanting support is all.02:26
UserErrorThis is ubuntu support02:26
Ari-Yang!offtopic02:26
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!02:26
UserErrornot !offtopic02:26
nerssi7Ari-Yang: you may have missed the conversation earlier but I'm thinking of switching back to XP because the wireless driver is very bad under Linux :(02:27
UserErrorthe base is ubuntu02:27
Ari-Yangnerssi7, what driver?02:27
wilee-nileeUserError, Your argument is moot don't bother. ;)02:27
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nerssi7Realtek wireless card, but it's using the ndiswrapper02:27
lotuspsychjenerssi7: plz stop asking support for your mint02:27
Ari-Yangwhy not try not using proprietary?02:28
UserErrorBURNED02:28
Ari-Yangnerssi7, what ubuntu version are you using?...02:28
nerssi7lotuspsychje: like I said before, this is a problem under Ubuntu as well as Mint, in fact 90% of the people with the exact same problem have it under Ubuntu02:28
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lotuspsychjenerssi7: no need to argue, this is ubuntu support not mint02:29
boeychi I just installed ubuntu alongside with my windows 7. It finished, I restarted and now i have a grub rescue problem. What should i do02:29
CiphoenixI did it :)02:29
wilee-nilee!grub | boeyc02:29
ubottuboeyc: GRUB2 is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - For more information and troubleshooting for GRUB2 please refer to https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub202:29
nerssi7ok well I have another laptop with the same problem with Ubuntu on it02:29
lotuspsychjeboeyc: can you describe your error?02:29
boeycloading operating system... error:no such device02:30
overcluckerdelinquentme: if you create a ssh key on the slave and copy it to the master, sudo python carls_stepper.py | ssh user@master "cat >> stepper.log"02:30
boeycgrub rescue > _  . . . .02:30
wilee-nileeboeyc, A partitioned install not from windows like a wubi right?02:30
boeyci used a ubuntu 12.04 cd to install on another partition02:30
boeycso i booted via cd02:30
wilee-nileeboeyc, You have more than 1 HD?02:31
boeycthen installed ubuntu02:31
boeyci only have 102:31
boeyci just split the partition02:31
wilee-nileeboeyc, Try the bootrepair app in the bots link and save the bootinfo summary url.02:31
lotuspsychjenerssi7: well if you describe your issue and ubuntu version we will try to help02:31
boeycthanks will try02:32
wilee-nileeboeyc, I hope you have not exceeded the primary partition limit and gone dynamic is all.02:32
boeycI had 1tb i think i oput 120 to ubuntu02:32
lotuspsychjeboeyc: a sudo update-grub might help in some cases02:33
wilee-nileeboeyc This a OEM W7 install perchance?02:33
boeycno its not oem02:33
wilee-nileeboeyc, Cool you are probably okay with that partition amount.02:34
wilee-nileethe*02:34
boeycgrub rescue > sudo update-grub . . . unknown command sudo02:34
boeycnot sure what it does that02:34
boeyci boot up and all i see is grub rescue02:34
wilee-nileeboeyc, You would have to chroot to run that and you have to load the bootloader as well, use the bootrepair app.02:35
boeyci will follow the link provided02:35
boeycthen get back to you guys, thanks!02:35
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OldTexasI fell like I'm eatin' soup with a fork.  System sees m USB nick, nick sees my network and it shows a lock hickey.  It'll take th 13 13 times I use for a network password, sit there n' whril around a bit them Wireless Network Disconnected pops up.02:36
boeyci hope my windows is alive02:36
overcluckerdelinquentme: but that may be too backwards and tricky. you could just run the ssh command in a screen session then detatch02:36
delinquentmeoverclucker, nailed it :D thats what I just finished configuring :D02:37
delinquentmelooks like its doing exactly what its supposed to02:37
overcluckerdelinquentme: with screen or reverse ssh?02:38
delinquentmescreen :D02:38
wilee-nileeboeyc, It's alive "Dr. Frankenstein" most likely. ;)02:38
OldTexasTHis make any sense to y'all?   <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc mq state DOWN qlen 100002:38
OldTexas    link/ether 00:9c:81:99:af:a3 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff02:38
OldTexas    inet6 fe80::29c:81ff:fe99:afa3/64 scope link02:38
OldTexas       valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever02:38
OldTexas 02:38
FloodBot1OldTexas: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.02:38
ejvOldTexas: sudo apt-get install pastebinit02:39
frankenstein_The doctor is in.02:39
wilee-nileehehe02:39
f00bar80i'm on ubuntu 12.10 and actually the desktop is very slow evern atfer i disabled effects/02:39
ejvyour experience will be bad if your hardware is bad02:39
Ari-Yangf00bar80, you using Unity?02:40
OldTexasthat;s what I get with ip addr02:40
chsadoshey guys i think i broke my PPA sources when trying to update firefox I am getting the following error: Type 'ain' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mozillateam-firefox-stable-precise.list02:40
wilee-nilee!ppa | chsados02:40
ubottuchsados: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge02:40
chsadosi see a sources.list but not sources.list.d02:40
chsados!ppa-purge02:40
ubottuTo disable a PPA from your sources and revert your packages back to default Ubuntu packages, install ppa-purge and use the command: « sudo ppa-purge ppa:<repository-name>/<subdirectory> » – For more information, see http://www.webupd8.org/2009/12/remove-ppa-repositories-via-command.html02:40
wilee-nileechsados, /etc/apt/sourceslist.d02:41
bwayneI have a favor to ask. Whatever dev decided to let gnome-keyring manager to over-ride ssh-agent and gpg-agent, and then to hide the gnome-keyring manager from the autostart panel, please stop. Just stop. That is all.02:41
f00bar80Ari-Yang, i've used compizconfig to disable effect , but it's still very slow on my notebook with 2Gb ram02:41
ejv!offtopic | bwayne02:41
ubottubwayne: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!02:41
f00bar80Ari-Yang, how to know if i'm using it or not and disable it?02:41
Ari-Yangf00bar80, so you're using Unity? yeah that's why :|02:41
Ari-Yangf00bar80, what's the graphics on that laptop?02:41
Ari-Yangoh and what ubuntu version are you on?02:42
Ari-Yangf00bar80, type this in terminal, what do you get? lspci | grep VGA02:42
f00bar80Ari-Yang, 12.10 this is version , and VGA -> Intel Atom D2xxx/N2xxx Integrated graphics controller02:44
Dr_Willisis this a notebook or a netbook?02:45
Ari-Yangf00bar80, perhaps try the propietary driver for that card if there is any? go to dashboard type and select software sources02:45
kostkonAri-Yang, there isn't02:46
Ari-Yangf00bar80, then go to the Additional Drivers tab and see if there are any proprietary driver02:46
Ari-Yangoh02:46
Ari-Yangf00bar80, then don't use unity...02:46
Ari-Yang!LXDE02:46
ubottuLXDE ( http://lxde.org/ ) is the Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment used by !Lubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop ». See http://lubuntu.net/ for more information, and join #lubuntu for support.02:46
Ari-Yang^ try that f00bar8002:46
boeycwilee-nilee, i still have the same problem I cannot run sudo grub-install /dev/XXX. plus I am on 12.04 and installed ubuntu alongside windows not vice versa02:46
chsadosyay i fixed it wilee-nilee :D02:46
boeycwilee-nilee, i did try sudo apt-get install grub which worked02:47
boeycbut same issue02:47
Dr_Willisi tend to use lxde/lubuntu or xfce/xubuntu on my low end machines.   f00bar80  -  but my low end box's are netbooks that are 2+ yrs old. so are very low end by todays standards02:47
chsadosDr_Willis: you ever get xbmc working on 2nd screen?02:47
boeycplus I had to use the "try ubuntu option" when it loaded02:47
boeycdidnt want to reinstall02:47
Dr_Willischsados:  im on 13.10 and its acting very differntly then how it worked on 12.x02:47
Ari-Yangf00bar80, type sudo apt-get install lxde in terminal02:47
Dr_Willischsados:  theres some bugs going oin in the nvidia drivers/twinview  it seems with some apps missbehaveing02:47
Ari-Yanglogout and switch DEs in the login box...02:47
Ari-Yang^ f00bar8002:47
chsadosahh i see02:47
chsadosim just dealing with it in window mode at the moment - will do further research on the weekend02:48
Dr_Willischsados:  i full screen an app - or flash video or other apps.. and they spread  out across both monitors. :) thats not how they are supposed to behave.02:48
boeycwilee-nilee, it says error cannot find a device for boot/grub (is /dev mounted?)02:48
chsadosyea thats odd02:48
Dr_Willischsados:  thats how it used to behave if i dident have twinview enabled.   years ago.02:49
f00bar80Ari-Yang, i tried and installed lubunutu-desktop , but got an error and nothing changed02:49
OldTexasAnything here that means anything to anyone?  ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready02:50
wilee-nileeboeyc, when?02:50
wyldeOldTexas: the netcard hasn't initialized or is busy. At least that what I interperate that as. :)02:51
Ari-Yangf00bar80, what error? pastebin the output02:51
boeycwilee-nilee,  sudo grub-install /dev/XXX.02:51
f00bar80i installed lxde , so now what? should i reboot?02:52
wilee-nileeboeyc, To run the grub install you have to be in the installed OS or chrooted in. Is this a uefi installed W7?02:52
boeycwilee-nilee, not sure what uefi is, but i had this copy of windows for 2 years now.02:53
Ari-Yangf00bar80, no...02:53
Ari-Yangjust log out of your current session, in the login box there should be an icon02:53
Ari-Yangclick on it and select LXDE from there02:53
boeycwilee-nilee, all i did was use a ubuntu cd to install ubuntu...restarted the computer and now stuck ing this situation02:53
wilee-nileeboeyc, from where are you running  sudo grub-install /dev/XXX I am assuming the XXX is sda or something, and has to be run from the install or a chroot from the live cd.02:54
boeyci run the live cd, and selected try ubuntu02:55
boeycwilee-nilee, i run the live cd, and selected try ubuntu02:55
Dr_Willisboeyc:  you may want to try the boot-repair tool02:55
Dr_Willishttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair02:56
nerdtronboeyc, run the live cd and install the boot-repair02:56
wilee-nileeboeyc, sudo grub-install /dev/XXX canj't just be run from the live cd without preparation the XXX is foo for the mbr as well, use the bootrepair as suggested02:56
boeycthe cd starts and just asks for try ubuntu or install ubuntu if i boot via cd?02:57
nerdtronboeyc, try ubuntu02:57
Dr_Willisyou would select 'try' then follow the directions at the url given above02:57
wilee-nileeboeyc, Choose try and load the bootrepair at the desktop.02:57
boeycok02:57
king-crimsonubuntu 13.04 here :D02:57
boeycthank you02:57
nerdtronwhen you are on the desktop, install the boot-repair utility from the link of Dr_Willis02:57
fellayaboyis their anyway to get facebook video chat working in ubuntu?02:58
Dr_Willishopefully boot-repair will get on the default live cd - soon. ;)02:58
Ari-Yangf00bar80, did you see the message?02:58
wilee-nileeking-crimson, Thela Hun Gunjeet02:59
lotuspsychjefellayaboy: wich browser do you use?02:59
wilee-nileeGinjeet*02:59
king-crimsonexactly wilee!  I am having a Lark's Tongue in Aspic sammich right now! XD02:59
fellayaboyfirefox03:00
king-crimsondang, suprised anyone remembers that band03:00
wilee-nileeking-crimson, Robert Fripp rules03:00
king-crimsonoh hell yeah he does03:00
gdoteofi am trying to guarantee atomic writes to a named pipe; but am over the PIPE_BUF limit; is there a workaround other than using a lockfile?03:00
king-crimsonall those boys are musician's musicians03:00
lotuspsychjefellayaboy: and what happens if you trying video chat?03:00
king-crimsonTony Levin plays the hell outta that Stick03:00
pepper_chicoI've run boot repair, it was nice, but I needed to remove the Microsoft directory from the EFI directory, so the windows logo stopped to show up on rEFInd start up03:01
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fellayaboyicon doesnt exist03:01
fellayaboyto start video chat... i looked into this and it seems the only way is through wine and using a web browser through wine03:01
lotuspsychjefellayaboy: you have flash working?03:01
fellayaboyyes03:01
fellayaboyi thought maybe their would be another form of a hack to get it working03:02
Dr_Willishttp://askubuntu.com/questions/96668/how-can-i-do-facebook-video-calls03:02
Dr_Willisfellayaboy:  seems thats a  'no'03:03
lotuspsychjefellayaboy: maybe the #firefox guys know any handy addon?03:03
fellayaboystupid propierty garbage03:03
f00bar80Ari-Yang, yes .. i did and worked thanks03:03
fellayaboythanks guys03:03
Dr_Willishttp://askubuntu.com/questions/52054/is-it-yet-possible-to-use-facebook-video-chat-without-a-vm  might have some leads03:03
Ari-Yangf00bar80, so everything is faster?03:03
Dr_Willisbut running ie in wine.. is .. sicking ;)03:04
guzzlefryIs there a way to check which mods are currently enabled on apache?03:04
guzzlefrya2enmod allows me to enable them, but I have no clue how to list current ones.03:05
Dr_Willisfellayaboy:  thos video seems to show it can be done -> but its old --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8u49W2NmA-Y03:05
king-crimsoni need to read up on wine.  have it installed but haven't messed with it much03:05
Ari-Yangking-1337, if you mean the program for using windows stuff... I installed it myself, fairly simple...but uninstalled it :|03:07
overcluckerguzzlefry: ls /etc/apache2/mods-available03:08
guzzlefryah, thanks03:09
guzzlefryI just realized that a2dismod might list them also. :P03:09
f00bar80Ari-Yang, yes thanks03:13
Ari-Yangf00bar80, you're welcome~03:14
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jlangberggood evening03:19
uronuHello guys, do you have any recommend reference for setting up squid web proxy?03:22
cellulageehi folks i hope i'm at the right spot, I need help getting audio out of comp please.  Am I at the right place?03:25
wilee-nileecellulagee, For ubuntu yes.03:26
cellulageecorrect03:26
clarence_wilee-nilee, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6117675 seems like this didnt work.03:26
cellulageeI think it's the 13. version, I'm in terminal if  you know the command I can verify03:27
cellulageeThis is my sitution, it did work until i installed nvidia GeForce 9800 GT.  Video card works but no sound03:28
wilee-nileeclarence_, /grldr in windows usually means pirated, however you have ubuntu in sdb try having it read first in the bios.03:28
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clarence_wilee-nilee funny enough i have a real copy but the image is quicker to install when i did this when i was younger. thanks will try03:30
shady_Hi, I would like to add a shortcut to sweep between languages03:32
cellulageewilee-nilee, can I pm u or something? if you can help or point me in the direction03:34
lotuspsychjeshady_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/68127/how-to-switch-language-keyboard-combination03:35
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Ofekhello every103:36
Ofekany1 here ever used Whonix?03:37
lotuspsychje!proxy | uronu03:37
ubottuuronu: Several Ubuntu channels prohibit access from open proxies and other anonymous connections due to a high level of abuse. The supported ways to hide your IP address on freenode are to use !Tor or get a !cloak03:37
jellowCrontab does not seem to be running can some check to see if I've not messed up the commands http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6117717/03:37
lotuspsychjeOfek: just ask your issue on it mate03:37
uronu!squid03:37
ubottusquid is a caching proxy for the Web.  See: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SquidGuard  See: http://www.squid-cache.org03:37
cellulageeWhere can i find help for fixing my sound on my ubuntu03:37
Ofekhow do I edit rc.local using kwrite?03:38
Ofek^as root03:38
shady_thank you03:38
lotuspsychjeOfek: sudo kwrite /ect/rc.local ?03:39
cellulageeCan anyone help with a video card issue?03:39
Ofekkwrite: cannot connect to X server :003:39
lotuspsychje!patience | cellulagee03:40
ubottucellulagee: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com/ or http://ubuntuforums.org/ or http://askubuntu.com/03:40
Ofeklotuspsychje: kwrite: cannot connect to X server :003:40
jellowOfek: you should use kdesu , kdesu kwite /etc/rc.local03:40
Ofeklotuspsychje: Could not find the database of available applications, run update-command-not-found as root to fix this kdesu: command not found03:41
al_laRunning 13.04; I'd like to upgrade my video driver to the latest radeon w/ opengl support proprietary or not.  I see xserver-xorg-video-radeon ... how do I check what video driver I'm using and upgrade?  Sorry for nooby question.03:41
cellulageeubottu, thanks I been searching but havent found a result this is my last shot before I call some type of support for linux03:41
ubottucellulagee: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)03:41
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cellulageethank though I'm new to this03:41
cellulageeubottu, thats better than me, i'm just retarted03:42
ubottucellulagee: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)03:42
lotuspsychjeal_la: check software&updates last tab additional drivers03:42
nuf0xxexit03:42
nuf0xxoops03:42
al_lalotuspsychje: nothing listed for additional/proprietary drivers03:43
cellulageeGeForce 9800 GT help me please03:43
Ofekjellow: Could not find the database of available applications, run update-command-not-found as root to fix this kdesu: command not found03:43
lotuspsychjeal_la: check your active driver with lshw -C video03:44
jellowOfek: kdesu is not installed on your system , try with gksu kwrite /etc/rc.local03:44
cellulageeGeForce 9800 GT help me please03:45
lotuspsychje!repeat | cellulagee03:45
ubottucellulagee: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/03:45
cellulageeGeForce 9800 GT help me please03:45
cellulageemy installed my video card but now i have no sound03:46
cellulageelotuspysycheje can you pm me, i don't know how to do this03:47
AcidRain2012how can i find what all files are owned by a certain group?03:48
lotuspsychjecellulagee: you need to describe your problem as detailed as possible in chat, and be patient...03:48
al_lalotuspsychje: it accurately identifies radeon x1950 card but all I can find on which driver is: "configuration: driver=radeon"03:48
AcidRain2012i deleted a group: ftpusers. and now when i open terminal it says: groups: cannot find name for group ID 100203:48
lotuspsychjeal_la: yes radeon driver is installed for you then, got any errors with it?03:48
cellulageelotusspycheje, thanks and I will do03:49
al_lalotuspsychje: problem w/ steam games and the linux drivers .. one possible fix was update or try using proprietary drivers03:49
thephilGday all - ubuntu 13.04 64 here, trying to get nvidia-325 driver working - xorg says "no devices detected" - it's a 745M oblivion mobile card.03:49
Ofekjellow: No protocol specified  (gksu:4941): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :003:50
lotuspsychje!ati | al_la03:50
ubottual_la: For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto03:50
cellulageeI'm running ubuntu on my desktop, sound use to work.  I installed a nvidia GeForce 9800 GT graphic card.  Works but the only problem i have is there is no sound.  desktop to tv motinor via an hdmi cord03:50
al_lalotuspsychje: perfect, thank you for the help.  I have some more reading to do on this :)03:51
lotuspsychjeal_la: you might indeed try the drivers from ati site, and disable the radeon one03:51
lotuspsychjecellulagee: no sound on ubuntu or no sound on your tv?03:52
GlenKhi.  so if I run apt-cache policy on a package, and see "precise-proposed" as opposed to something like "precise-updates", does that mean I have the wrong repos enabled?  And by wrong I mean something akin to fedora testing or whatever?03:52
lotuspsychjeGlenK: whats the packagename?03:53
Ofekhow do I edit rc.local using kwrite as root? kdesu says: Could not find the database of available applications, run update-command-not-found as root to fix this kdesu: command not found03:53
cellulageelotuspsychje: well no sound from tv i'm assuming, the comp beeps when turns on but no sound from music, or anything of that sort03:53
Ofekgksu: No protocol specified  (gksu:4941): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :003:53
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lotuspsychjecellulagee: you bought the correct hdmi cable?? some cable version dont have sound03:54
GlenKlotuspsychje: linux-image03:54
GlenKlotuspsychje: far as I can tell, the kernel03:55
lotuspsychjeOfek: what dont you just gedit or nano edit the file?03:55
Ofekcommand?03:55
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lotuspsychjeOfek: sudo gedit yourfilename03:56
cellulageelotuspsychje: good question and I did not know that, how do verify and also is there a way to use the sound from the motherboard and not the video card.03:56
Skipp_OSXso, Gabe Newell seems to think that Linux is the future of gaming...03:56
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lotuspsychjecellulagee: well this isnt an ubuntu related question, try ##hardware channel03:57
cellulageelotuspsychje:  I have the headphone type cord into my tv, but even with headphones there is still no sound03:57
Skipp_OSXNow, I get the argument that companies like Steam, Blizzard, Activision are used to Linux for their backends03:57
lotuspsychje!ot | Skipp_OSX03:57
ubottuSkipp_OSX: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!03:57
cellulageelotuspsychje: thanks for the right direction03:57
lotuspsychjenp03:57
Skipp_OSXgotcha, support channel...03:57
Ofekjesus gedit is 71mb?03:58
lotuspsychje!info gedit03:58
ubottugedit (source: gedit): official text editor of the GNOME desktop environment. In component main, is optional. Version 3.6.2-0ubuntu1 (raring), package size 519 kB, installed size 2699 kB03:58
jellowlotuspsychje: don't run X apps with sudo03:58
qinOfek: Are you trying to download gedit?03:58
lotuspsychjeOfek: maybe start reading a bit of basic ubuntu commands mate03:58
Ofekapt-get install gedit said 71.5mb03:59
qinOfek: do you have ubuntu with no gedit?03:59
OfekWhonix03:59
Ofekusing Whonix04:00
qinbummer, you have nano?04:00
Ari-Yangal_la, I do not recommend installing the driver from ATI's site... too risky. you should install it from ubuntu's repos instead.04:00
Ari-Yangyou can select it from 'Additional Drivers' tab from software sources04:00
al_lalotuspsychje Ari-Yang:in installing the fglrx proprietary driver, is it really as easy as just cmd line installing that package from the repo? If I remove this, will ubuntu default back to the radeon open source driver?  the help file (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI) is not too helpful04:00
qinOfek: /topic may enrich you with knoledge that it is Ubuntu support.04:01
Ofekomg nano worked!04:01
al_laflotuspsychje Ari-Yang: in fact, I don't even see fglrx-installer as a package as the site mentions04:01
Ari-Yangal_la, in terminal type apt-cache search fglrx-amdcccle04:01
Ari-Yangal_la, you most likely aren't reading carefully, I used that page to install fglrx myself.04:02
Ari-Yangal_la, so what do you get after searching for fglrx-amdcccle in terminal?04:02
Ari-Yangif you see fglrx-amdcccle or fglrx-amdcccle pick either one, and install it with sudo apt-get install04:02
Ari-Yangal_la, I'm warning you, fglrx may cause problems for you :|04:03
al_laAri-Yang: I see fglrx-amdcccle for the catalyst control center.  the website just lists 'fglrx-installer' which I couldn't find.  Does ubuntu gracefully roll back to radeon driver if I purge fglrx-amdcccle after experimenting?04:03
Ofeklast question, what is the nano command to save? ^WriteOut    ?04:04
qinOfek: heeh04:04
Ari-Yangal_la, you can simply select the open source radeon and apply changes in 'Additional Drivers' from software sources04:04
qinOfek: ctrl-x04:04
Ari-Yangal_la, do it from there..04:04
al_laAri-Yang: ah, perfect, thanks for the help04:04
Ofek^x says exit04:04
Ari-Yangal_la, you're welcome, lets say if you do go back to the open source radeon and apply changes, run sudo apt-get purge flgrx* then proceed with rebooting.04:05
qinOfek: Ubuntu with tor may get you some support, help, same disrto, Whonix will not04:05
Ari-Yangal_la, what card do you have?04:05
Ari-Yanggpu04:05
al_laAri-Yang: radeon x195004:05
qinOfek: Confirm exit? Y04:06
Ofekah ty04:06
Ari-Yangal_la, oh okay... You might actually be fine with fglrx then... good luck04:06
al_laAri-Yang: will find out soon, I'm off to experiment!  Thanks again for the help.04:07
Ari-Yangal_la, okay, come back here to tell if it worked out or not04:07
cellulagee? for everyone, what chat room for ubuntu hardware can I find it?04:08
cellulageeI found one but it deals with everything os not just linux or ubuntu04:08
Ari-Yangcellulagee, for general hardware related questions, there is #hardware04:10
wilee-nileecellulagee, I don't think there is a linux/ubuntu hardware channel, however there are ubuntu wiki's on hardware and computers that are certified.04:10
wilee-nileecellulagee, And on cards...etc04:10
YowlWhen in octobor do they usually actually release ubuntu .10?04:14
somsip_Yowl: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/05/ubuntu-13-10-release-schedule04:16
cellulageewilee-nilee: how can i contact someone certified?04:16
GlenKso anyone?  if I'm seeing "precise-proposed/main" in a package description from apt-cache policy, that means development repos are enabled maybe?  reason I ask, I'm seeing a 3.5 kernel on this 12.04 LTS box.04:17
wilee-nileecellulagee, It's computers certified to run ubuntu, you can pay ubuntu for help if you look on their website.04:17
cellulageethank you guys for your time and patience04:19
dhyanaHm04:20
UserErrorYou guys realize that software-properties could easily be made into a bash script right?04:23
UserErrorI'm looking through this code wondering why the hell it was written in python04:24
UserErrorpulling in all those deps no wonder 2.7 is still in 3.1004:24
reisioUserError: most would argue that python is hugely more maintainable04:24
reisioand promotes collaboration and development in general :)04:24
reisioanything _could_ be a bash script04:24
UserErrorMost would argue that it's pretty simple and broken already04:25
reisioor any other language04:25
UserErrorSo the benefits are only a theory04:25
reisioso fix it04:25
reisiono the benefits are proven04:25
reisio:D04:25
UserErrorbloat04:25
UserErroris04:25
UserErrorproven04:25
tucemiux!nvidia04:25
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto04:25
jellowCrontab does not seem to be running can some check to see if I've not messed up the commands http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6117717/04:30
qinUserError: https://launchpad.net/~mvo thats maintainer to whine to04:33
chiquesIt never fails, tried to install Nvidia drivers on my new 64 bit install , rebooted and booted into a Kernel Panic Error04:34
Ofek_is the a command to install pkgsrc on linux or must I dl it directly 1st?04:34
Ofek_^there04:35
qinOfek_: You swapped to Ubuntu already?04:35
Ofek_no lol04:35
Ofek_still Whonix04:35
xmetalat the risk of being OT ... i think "whonix" sounds like the Dr. Seuss distro of Linux04:37
Ofek_to get latest versions of proxychains one must use pkgsrc framework04:37
Ofek_I've read at least04:37
tucemiuxchiques, oh no!  what card do you have ?04:38
Ofek_any of u ever use pkgsrc?04:38
chiquestucemiux, Onboard Nvidia04:39
reisioxmetal: ooh, need one of those04:39
reisiogreen eggs and unix04:39
oaulakhanyone know to braek ubuntu passwd04:39
qinOfek_: Dude, Ubuntu! Whonix have notting to do with Ubuntu, and neither was designed to be used by "freshmeat" nor to install with pkgsrc (I guess)04:39
chiquestucemiux, I don't know how to boot into my partition so I am installing another partition04:40
wilee-nileeoaulakh, You still working on the forgotten one replacement?04:40
tucemiuxchiques, ive never had a problem with onboard nvidia but I have a GTX 660 that kept hosing my distro, I just installed the drivers and about to reboot :-(04:40
oaulakhyeahhh04:40
tucemiuxchiques, what do you mean can't boot into your partition?  you can't boot at all to fix the video drivers?04:40
oaulakhits not working still bro04:40
chiquestucemiux, I get passed Grub but then it gets stuck in a Kernel Panic prompt04:41
wilee-nileeoaulakh, Follow this link and ask any specific questions needed. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword04:41
oaulakhcan you guide me exact04:41
wilee-nileeoaulakh, The instructions are pretty straight forward I will work with you yes, however you have to try. ;)04:42
oaulakhi will bro04:42
oaulakhplease help04:42
wilee-nileeoaulakh, You have the link open so you can look at it while you reboot the computer you are trying to fix?04:43
wilee-nileewith a smart phone or another computer...etc04:44
Ofek_qin: pkgsrc can be used on like every unix distro04:45
Ofek_just never tried before04:45
qinOfek_: good luck.04:45
Ofek_qin: have u used it?04:46
qinOfek_: Why would I do it on linux?04:47
oaulakh_so what should i do04:47
Ofek_many packages are maintained on there04:48
wilee-nileeoaulakh_, First read my questions and answer them, is english your main language?04:49
jimhelp04:49
wilee-nileewe have to be able to communicate oaulakh_04:49
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bjrohanI have been having problems with fonts in FireFox. In going through the fonts in the Prefrences section it appears that Arial font is the culprit as selecting it gives me the issue, where others do not. How do I replace this Arial with one that works?04:49
oaulakh_yeah english is my main04:49
bjrohan Is it in my home dir, the usr share ?04:50
wilee-nileeoaulakh_, Can you answer questions, I am not much for exact instructions unless you have a question, and you have to be able to answer mine.04:50
Guest99499help04:51
oaulakh_can we chat later04:51
wilee-nilee!help | Guest9949904:51
ubottuGuest99499: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience04:51
wilee-nileeoaulakh_, Okay, good luck, that link makes it pretty straight forward..04:51
Guest99499how do i change channels in xchat-gnome irc chat04:52
wilee-nileeoaulakh_, this link. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword04:52
oaulakh_bjrohn just select unicode utf-804:52
wilee-nileeGuest99499, /join #channel04:53
reisioGuest99499: CTRL+pgup/dn, ALT+#, /join #foo04:53
oaulakh_its not working in that way04:53
Electrobuzor server>>join chanel04:53
jim_pimpcell04:53
wilee-nileeoaulakh_, You have to be able to in detail describe that problem is all.04:54
jim__hi04:54
Electrobuzhi04:54
jim__awesome i need help with my video card04:54
jim__can anyone help with it or point me in the direction04:54
wilee-nileeoaulakh_, Are you sure it is your password that is the problem, do you really not know it, and have you set a root password per-chance?04:55
Electrobuzwhat is your problem?04:55
jim__i installed the nvidia GeForce 9800 GT on my ubuntu version 13.  There is no sound, i think the sound is being routed somewhere is but i don't know how to fix it04:56
oaulakh_seee you later wille nilee04:56
jim__I have to no sound at all coming from my comp, headphones, the jack in the back04:56
wilee-nileeoaulakh_, I can see I wont be able to help you so best of luck. ;)04:56
qin!sound | jim__04:59
ubottujim__: If you're having problems with sound, click the Volume applet, then Sound Preferences, and check your Volume, Hardware, Input, and Output settings.  If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files,  see !players and !mp3.04:59
qin..the jack in the back04:59
ElectrobuzOutput is important04:59
Electrobuzsee what hardware is activate05:00
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wilee-nilee!who | Electrobuz05:00
ubottuElectrobuz: As you can see, this is a large channel. If you're speaking to someone in particular, please put their nickname in what you say (use !tab), or else messages get lost and it becomes confusing :)05:00
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cpu1Ubuntu is throttleing my cpu, Do any of you know where I can find the new shell script that replaced "echo performance > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor"05:01
YowlHow do you know it's ubuntu throttling your CPU, rather then just not needing that much CPU?05:02
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cpu1Because I have it overclocked and overvoltaged but conky is showing me running at stock speeds, also it taking too long to encode videos05:04
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wilee-nileeYowl, Rather than having a conclusion in your question you might describe the problem in detail.05:06
cpu1The shell script that fixed this on Ubuntu 8.10 no longer works and I am not sure where to find an updated shell script05:06
qincpu1:  "echo > performance..." did not work?05:08
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cpu1no It is still showing me at stock speeds05:09
qincpu1: and value of scaling_governor is performance?05:10
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cpu1qin I am not sure what you are asking?05:11
kennethpoo05:11
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qincpu1: cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor05:12
cpu1My cpu was clocked at 4.7ghz and every test I perform in Ubuntu shows me running at 3.5ghz05:12
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cpu1qin Thank you for your help05:16
shepherdshift1hello... anyone available to help with a boot problem on an acer aspire one running ubuntu 12.4 ?05:17
cfhowlett!details|shepherdshift1,05:17
ubottushepherdshift1,: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."05:17
Yowlwilee-nilee: I was asking "cpu1" about his problem05:18
PN2hi anyone give information about cronjob05:18
Yowlcpu1: You mean that is the speed the CPU is rated at, are you sure it's not a bios issue?05:19
Psil0Cybinhey guys whats the proper way of mounting something thats a portable hard drive in lets say /media05:20
Psil0Cybinso when i want to mount id do05:20
Psil0Cybinsudo mount /media/Area51 (name of my drive)05:20
Psil0Cybinand when i want to unmount i do05:20
Psil0Cybinsudo umount05:20
Psil0Cybin?05:20
YowlYou can just right click it05:20
TradeFortressgot a web server05:20
TradeFortress"  => / is using 86.9% of 21.17GB05:20
TradeFortress"05:20
Yowlto unmount05:20
YowlAnd often they automount when you put em in05:21
TradeFortressdu --max-depth=1 -h /, shows that / is using 19G..05:21
Psil0Cybini was playing around with samba, and it made it auto mount my drive, so i had to in config change it to noautomount or what ever for samba and because of that05:21
Psil0Cybinit does not mount my drive properly automatically05:21
Psil0Cybinit says i must be root to mount05:21
YowlPsil0Cybin: But sudo unmount won't work because it needs a specificationof what drive to unmount05:21
Psil0CybinYowl can i find out what file is making my drive not auto mount like before05:22
YowlPsil0Cybin: Then you have a problem, and it's not the command you are using05:22
Psil0Cybinand cause these problems05:22
cpu1Yowl It may be a bios issue, I because /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq does not exists, I just read in the forums have a list reasons (If it does not exist, you may need to go to the BIOS and turn on EIST and any other C and P state control and visibility)05:23
Yowlwell focus on whats causing the the root issue, then auto might work itself out.05:23
cpu1Thanks guys for your help05:24
wilee-nileeYowl, Ah, hard to tell without a nick, some users get ignores here so we do not see all posts.05:24
shepherdshift1thank you.  ubuntu is boots bios then goes either to purple screen, black screen (sometimes with blinking cursor, sometimes without), then hangs.  REISUB was not working, had to power cycle.  i booted from a livecd and ran e2fsk on dev/sda, it gave an output i couldnt read before it logged me out and froze.  i went into tty, logged in, rebooted to livecd again.  went into gparted... and my sda dev was not there.  ran fdisk -l..05:25
Psil0Cybinyowl05:25
YowlPsil0Cybin: Maybe ask wilee about your root issue05:25
Psil0Cybini get this problem05:25
Psil0CybinError mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with:05:25
Psil0Cybinmount: according to mtab, /dev/sdb1 is already mounted on /media/Area5105:25
Psil0Cybinmount failed05:25
Psil0Cybin.05:25
FloodBot1Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.05:25
YowlPsil0Cybin: Then maybe it's already mounted...05:25
Psil0Cybinbut it wont let me see it through the file manager05:25
Psil0Cybinthats what i get when i click on the drive.05:25
YowlPsil0Cybin: Go to media/area51 and look for it05:26
Yowlah05:26
Psil0Cybinempty05:26
Yowlnow I see why you wanted a unmount command05:26
jinzougenfor for any cross-posting, but #kubuntu seems kind of quiet. I'm trying to get ibus working for hangul input in kubuntu 13.04. but I'm having lots of problems, can someone help?05:26
YowlPsil0Cybin: And the drive you are trying to mount isn't empty/blank?05:26
Psil0Cybinis not05:27
Psil0CybinYowl05:28
Psil0Cybinlike i have to type05:28
Psil0Cybinsudo mount /media/Area5105:28
Psil0Cybinto view my drive05:28
Psil0Cybinand then i want to know how to unmount it because it does not work from the icon05:28
overcluckersudo umount /media/Area5105:29
Yowlyeah of course05:29
Yowlit seems its mounted under special permission restriction05:29
YowlPsil0Cybin: So did overclucks command work?05:29
Psil0Cybinyea that worked05:30
Psil0Cybinsudo umount05:30
Psil0Cybinhow can i fix this though so i can do what i did before05:30
Psil0Cybinlike eject by icon05:30
Yowlwell it should automount like normal next boot would be my guess05:30
wilee-nileeshepherdshift1, sda dev? sda is the HD05:30
shepherdshift1yes05:31
Yowland ejectable by icon05:31
Yowlafter mounted05:31
YowlSo just mount it where you want it, but don't use sudo05:31
wilee-nileeshepherdshift1, can you elaborate on that dev would e in a partition05:31
wilee-nileebe*05:31
wilee-nileeshepherdshift1, Is gparted showing unallocated?05:32
shepherdshift1uh.. im not sure05:33
YowlPsil0Cybin: Are you good now?05:33
wilee-nileeshepherdshift1, is sda dev short for a OS?05:33
shepherdshift1no its the hard drive05:33
wilee-nileeshepherdshift1, So is the HD not showing?05:34
shepherdshift1correct05:34
wilee-nileeshepherdshift1, Ah, have you tried unplugging it the back in, was it failing?05:34
wilee-nileethen*05:34
shepherdshift1its an internal drive in a netbook05:34
wilee-nileeshepherdshift1, This is gparted from a live cd?05:35
shepherdshift1its the boot drive05:35
shepherdshift1yes05:35
wilee-nileeshepherdshift1, On all my netbooks and laptops it is 2 screws to access05:35
shepherdshift1ok.. i'm on the live cd right now... ill have to log off and back in again05:36
Psil0Cybinbut when i unplug Yowl05:36
Psil0Cybinand plug the portable hard drive back05:36
Psil0Cybini have the same problem05:36
Psil0Cybini does not auto mount05:36
Psil0Cybinit shows the drive but its grey out05:36
Psil0Cybinand i get that same error message.05:36
FloodBot1Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.05:36
Psil0Cybinwhen i click on it through the file maanger.05:36
shepherdshift1back in a bit for an update05:37
wilee-nileecool05:37
YowlPsil0Cybin: So it's automounting with sudo restriction. Do sudo unmount media/area51 then mount media/area51 please05:37
Psil0Cybinsays unmount command not found05:38
Psil0Cybinso then umount05:38
YowlThat way you unmount it, then mount it back in without sudo, and without sudo, hopefully it will be regularly accessible through file manager05:38
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Psil0Cybinokay i did sudo umount05:38
Psil0Cybinnow05:38
Psil0Cybinnow05:39
Psil0Cybinafter i mounted it though on the file manager the eject icon disappeared05:39
Yowlso its mounted now, and you can access it now?05:39
Psil0Cybinyes05:39
Psil0Cybini can access it05:39
Yowlcool05:39
Psil0Cybinbut i cannot eject it normally05:39
Psil0Cybinlike i would usually with an eject icon on the side05:40
YowlMaybe some funky software from the external drives causing this issue05:40
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YowlBut I don't believe it would be too risky just to pull it out without unmounting05:40
Yowlas long as its not being used at the time05:40
YowlBut I am no expert, so you might ask someone else05:41
Yowlcan you unmount it with command?05:41
overcluckerPsil0Cybin: also your answer might be somewhere in here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB05:41
Psil0CybinYowl, i pulled it out and plugged it back in and im ahving the same issue the drive appeared (grey outed) and i cannot view it it says i have to be root to mount05:42
Psil0Cybinso now im forced to run those commands again.05:42
YowlWell my guess would be firmware or software problems of the HDD05:42
Yowlprobably not meant to run with linux like so many things05:43
YowlBut you might check their website for stuff05:43
Yowlor call the company tech support line (probably won't be useful, but worth a try)05:43
overcluckerPsil0Cybin: the article link I sent you should have all you need to know to have to get the disk to automount when plugged in05:44
YowlOtherwise just get use to running the commands, have them ready in a file, like notpad or something05:44
Psil0Cybinim looking @it overclucker05:44
Psil0Cybinthanks let me get back to you guys05:44
Yowlwell sounds like overclucker knows more, so I will leave you to it05:45
overcluckerPsil0Cybin: what mode is the partition mounted as when you type 'mount' in console?05:45
Psil0Cybinhow can i find otu05:45
Psil0Cybinmount /media/Area5105:45
Psil0Cybin?05:45
overcluckerPsil0Cybin: just mount by itself05:45
Yowldefinitely not05:45
overcluckerno arguments05:46
Psil0Cybinoverclucker ?05:46
Psil0Cybini get05:46
Psil0CybinError mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with:05:46
Psil0Cybinmount: according to mtab, /dev/sdc1 is already mounted on /media/Area5105:46
Psil0Cybinmount failed05:46
Psil0Cybin.05:46
Psil0Cybinwhen i plug it in and try to access it.05:46
overcluckerPsil0Cybin: I mean only type 'mount' <ENTER> with no arguments05:47
Psil0Cybin/dev/sdc1 on /media/Area51 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096)05:47
Yowlheh, I thought you were telling us not to argue : - p05:48
overcluckerYowl: erm05:49
Psil0Cybinthe problem is i installed samba and tried to get samba to share the hard drive instead when i turned off the laptop i got it always trying to MOUNT it even if the drive is not plugged in so someone here told me to type in a command to stop auto mounting it05:49
Psil0Cybinim wondering if i can delete some file and it will let it auto mount05:49
Psil0Cybinor treat it like an unfamiliour drive05:49
Psil0Cybinlike it used too05:49
overcluckerPsil0Cybin: when does it automount? only on boot?05:51
Yowlseems when plugged in05:51
YowlPsil0Cybin: What is samba for?05:52
Psil0Cybinoverclucker, it used to automount on boot before!! and i set some option to turn that off05:53
Psil0Cybinand now i noticed it did this05:54
Psil0Cybinbut i cannot figure out what otpion i changed05:54
nechkohey guys, i was wondering is adding discard, noatime, nodiratime enough to spare SSD life and enable TRIM ?05:54
nechkoadding to fstab05:54
reisioit's weird how the people who can afford SSDs are so worried about their lifespans05:55
nechkohaha :)05:55
nechkowell its not like i bought it easy05:55
nechko:D05:55
reisioit's also weird how they make SSDs larger than 30GB, though05:55
reisioor rather, how ones only 30GB are so hard to get05:56
cfhowlettnechko, agree with reisio.  set up a regular image cloning / backup system and go on about your day.  Like HDD's, SSD's will fail.  No magic bullet will prevent it, so plan ahead.05:56
reisiowell just put the OS on the SSD05:56
Psil0Cybinsigh05:56
Psil0Cybinmaybe05:56
Psil0Cybinthere is a file05:56
reisioit's all backed up in a million distro mirrors already05:56
Psil0Cybinsomewhere that sets settings for each mount?05:56
overcluckerPsil0Cybin: did you add an entry to /etc/fstab ?05:56
Psil0Cybinperhaps05:56
Psil0Cybinthat looks familiour05:56
reisioanyways, this isn't the place to talk about SSD magic05:56
reisiotry ##linux05:56
FloodBot1Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.05:56
overcluckerPsil0Cybin: there is always a file05:56
nechkook05:56
nechkosorry05:56
Psil0CybinUUID=F8DA5A90DA5A4B50/media/Area51ntfs-3gdefaults,nosuid,nodev,noauto,locale=en_CA.UTF-80005:56
Psil0Cybin#Entry for /dev/sda5 :05:56
reisiojust saying :p05:57
Psil0Cybinoverclucker05:57
Psil0Cybincan i remove everything to do with that media entry05:57
Psil0Cybinand let it go back to default?05:57
FloodBot1Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.05:57
reisionechko: there are a number of exhaustive resources on ssd usage with unix systems online05:57
Psil0Cybinits05:57
Psil0Cybinnoauto05:57
Psil0Cybinthat i put to stop it from mounting on boot05:57
nechkoanyway thank you reisio :)05:57
Psil0Cybinor05:57
Psil0Cybinnosuid05:57
Psil0Cybini forget lemme check05:57
nechkoyeah i've read them all i believe but just wanted to check if some of you got some secret tip :) gandalf type wizardry :D reisio05:58
overcluckerPsil0Cybin: if you want it to mount on boot, change noauto to auto05:58
nechko:D05:58
Psil0Cybinbut05:58
Psil0Cybinif i want it to mount05:58
Psil0Cybinnormally05:58
Psil0Cybinwhen i plug it in05:58
Psil0Cybinwithout it causing errors05:58
FloodBot1Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.05:58
Psil0Cybinfixed it05:59
Psil0Cybinoverclucker,05:59
Psil0Cybinremoved UUID=F8DA5A90DA5A4B50/media/Area51ntfs-3gdefaults,nosuid,nodev,noauto,locale=en_CA.UTF-80005:59
Psil0Cybin#Entry for /dev/sda5 :05:59
FloodBot1Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.05:59
UbberJedi13.04 is stable?06:01
cfhowlettUbberJedi, yes.06:01
UbberJediok06:01
cfhowlettUbberJedi, every ubuntu release is "stable" or it doesn't get released.06:01
UbberJedioki06:02
BostonSoundsIt's not a LTS, just keep that in mind :)06:03
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dkkLTS is supporting for what? bugs?06:06
cfhowlett!lts|dkk,06:06
ubottudkk,: LTS means Long Term Support. LTS versions of Ubuntu will be supported for 3 years on the desktop, and 5 years on the server; with the exception of 12.04 (Precise Pangolin), which will be supported for 5 years on the desktop. The current LTS version of Ubuntu is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04)06:06
BostonSoundsIndeed06:06
UbberJediwow06:07
dkki mean say raring 13.04. if in 2015, there will be no support for update? bug fix?06:07
cfhowlettdkk,  read more.  LTS releases have 5 year support spans.  NON LTS do not.06:08
cfhowlettdkk,  you choose between 9 months of support and  5 year support.  Your move.06:08
FloodBot1!netsplit06:09
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ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit06:09
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sky__?06:09
sky__so many people quit?06:09
cfhowlettsky__, your ubuntu question?06:10
dkkcfhowlett: yeah, thanks i think 1304 is not lts. and my question is "support" means QNA like in IRC or there'll be no update in aptitude?06:10
cfhowlettdkk,  no support = NO support.06:10
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dkkcfhowlett: :)06:11
cfhowlettdkk, personally, I use LTS only and upgrade every 2 years.  unless you absolutely MUST have the latest, greatest shiny version ...06:11
xmetalsort of the same here06:11
xmetali upgrade "every few versions'06:11
dkkcfhowlett: cool, thanks06:11
Wugdid freenode just rip a huge fart06:11
Wuglooks like cameron.freenode.net died?06:13
Wugor something06:13
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cfhowlettWug, well, you're on freenode now.  Have you an actual ubuntu support question?06:13
Wugcfhowlett: aside from the usual stuff no06:13
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jnhghyI wanted to create an icon for a py script, so I've made a copy of chrome shortcut(haven't realised it is the shortcut that I'm copying) and edited it's command, the issue, I lost the shortcut for chrome, if I go to terminal and hit google-chrome it works so I placed this command in the icon and it works but is there a way to get the location of a terminal command? so I can give the icon the proper command?06:16
cfhowlettjnhghy, right click, view properties?06:17
jnhghycfhowlett: those are the lines I modified...06:17
Psil0Cybinquestion guys06:17
Psil0Cybinoverclucker,06:18
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FloodBot1!netsplit06:18
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Psil0Cybinwow06:18
jnhghycfhowlett: I get only my edits... I was hoping there is a way of getting the location of the terminal command behind "google-chrome"06:18
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Psil0Cybinwowowowoow06:18
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit06:18
Psil0Cybinquestion overclucker if i unmount a drive but its stiill shown up in the file manager but in grey with no files inside of it06:19
Psil0Cybinis it fine to take the usb out?06:19
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cfhowlettjnhghy, sorry  I don't know.  perhaps the #chrome chanel?06:20
cfhowlettchannel?06:20
jnhghycfhowlett: for sure it is an ubuntu thing... lets say htop...is a terminal command that points to a file holding the htop program... is there a command to find it's path...?06:21
jnhghycfhowlett:thank you for your time :)06:21
overcluckerPsil0Cybin: If it is unmounted, then yes.06:22
jay_lol06:22
Psil0Cybinalright just usally whne its unmounted it disappears by its self06:22
Psil0Cybinthis is the first drive that is still there but greyed out06:22
overcluckerjnhghy: which htop06:23
tabernaclfiascohiiiiii anyone   is it possible for a ubunutu installation from windows box with a virus to be comprimised06:23
cfhowletttabernaclfiasco, via email perhaps.  rare indeed.06:23
aeon-ltdjnhghy: it'll prob be in /usr/bin/06:23
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jnhghyoverclucker: I'm looking for a command that gives the path to a command in terminal, htop is only an example, I'm trying realpath now.06:23
jay_ /SET nicklist_width 16106:24
overcluckerjnhghy: which06:24
jnhghyaeon-ltd: if realpath is a no go... I'll check there...06:24
tabernaclfiascoemail wha06:24
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cfhowlett!virus|tabernaclfiasco,06:24
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FloodBot1!netsplit06:24
ubottutabernaclfiasco,: Antivirus is something you don't need on !Linux. except where files are then passed to windows computers (perhaps using samba), See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus06:24
ubottunetsplit is when two IRC servers of the same network (like freenode) disconnect from each other, so users on one server stop seeing users on the other. If this is happening now, just relax and enjoy the show. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netsplit06:24
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cfhowletttabernaclfiasco, so you're asking if a wubi installation could get infected via windows?06:25
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SuperLagI hosed GRUB on my system, and I'm trying to fix it, and I know /dev/sda1 was my bootable partition before. But when I do "grub-install /dev/sda1" it says: Path `/boot/grub' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting.06:25
tabernaclfiascono infeted but the installing modified in some way where i will be vulnerable , like exploited oms ehow06:25
SuperLagI'm not sure *why* I'm getting that message.06:25
cfhowletttabernaclfiasco so you have a dual boot of windows and ubuntu, right?06:26
reisioof course if 'which' can give you the path, then just using the command itself without a path would work06:26
jnhghyaeon-ltd: there it was...  thank you06:26
cfhowlett!cookie|reisio,06:27
ubottureisio,: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!06:27
reisiommm, oatmeal raisin06:27
SuperLag/boot/grub is set to 755, so I'm not sure *why* it says it's not readable.06:27
jay_lol06:27
jnhghylol.... reisio: I haven't understood until now that "which" was the command I had to try ... sorry :)06:28
tabernaclfiasconot yet. i would like to install a dual boot right now, but if i do that now through my win8 operating system, im wonder if that opens a opportunity for a windows virus(if i had a virus) to manipulate the ubuntu installation to exploit me06:28
reisioSuperLag: what says what now?06:28
tabernaclfiascohowever a ubunutu system may be controlled or exploited which im sure could be completely taking control of my box remotely06:28
reisiotabernaclfiasco: technically, sure, but there is no history of that06:28
jay_hmm06:29
reisiotabernaclfiasco: if you're worried about things like that, just set up an intrusion detection system06:29
overcluckerjnhghy: if it isn't a command in your PATH try 'locate' or 'find'06:29
reisiothey keep track of your system, and make unsanctioned changes obvious06:29
reisioand easy to revert06:29
cfhowletttabernaclfiasco, if you're running windows, you're NOT running ubuntu.  No opportunity (at present, so far as I know, no documented cases, et cetera, disclaimers) of infecting a NON-running system06:29
tabernaclfiascolol06:30
reisioplenty of opportunity, but no documented cases I've heard of06:30
tabernaclfiascoreisio thanks just curious of the possibility06:30
reisiotabernaclfiasco: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSSEC06:30
reisiointegrity checking, that's the ticket06:30
reisioknow what you have, and whether it's been altered06:30
UserErrorHere's a pretty cool trick I learned from a PhD. Take the cat5 cable out and you're fine.06:31
reisiothen you won't ever need to worry again06:31
reisioUserError: heh06:31
Johnny-Linuxdont be paranoid, just worry about it06:31
aeon-ltdUserError: you some kinda genius or somethin'?06:31
tabernaclfiascoyeah lulz06:31
tabernaclfiascolulzy06:32
UserErrorApparently.06:32
qinUserError: Your PhD dunno wifi?06:32
overcluckertabernaclfiasco: are windows users using WUBI even a profitable target?06:33
DraginCan someone please look at this and tell me how to unscrew myself, or even if it is possible to unscrew myself? =( http://pastebin.com/3ap3T3Lj06:33
UserErrorqin, Do you often put a wifi card in a desktop?06:33
UserErroras opposed to having a nice gigabit ethernet connection06:33
qinUserError: Yes, to know my hood better ;)06:33
jnhghydoes anybody have an google-chrome icon on desktop? can you please right click and copy the command line? my icon starts chrome but doesn't pass link (for example if I click a link in thunderbird it doesn't take me to that link, only opens chrome)06:33
aeon-ltdDragin: why do you have a var/www in your home?06:34
ookuzhi guys, what's best practice for removing drivers (e.g. nvidia proprietary graphics drivers)?06:34
Draginhmmm... perhaps I am not screwed thou sayest to me? =)06:34
UserErrorookuz, you can't in stock ubuntu, you have to reinstall and target only your specific driver with --no-install-recommends06:34
overcluckerDragin: you aren't using chown properly, and are you sure you know the path you are trying to chown?06:34
Draginrechecking06:35
Draginthanks06:35
aeon-ltdDragin: ~ short for your home, if you're trying to host something in www then /var/www shouldn't be there06:35
Draginbtw... It is obvious even to me I screwed up the chown lol06:35
Dragingotcha06:35
Draginshould just be /var/www, correct?06:36
overcluckerDragin: yes06:36
Draginthanks guys.... err... girls? err... thanks =)06:36
aeon-ltdDragin: i'm a talkin dog06:37
overcluckerDragin: also, the contents of /var/www are usually owned be the same user that the http server is running as. or root.06:38
Draginis the correct phrase to restart apache, sudo service apache2 restart?06:38
Draginall I know it I can't have access to it from the web =(06:38
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Draginyay! I remembered that command, anyway lol06:40
overcluckerDragin: that should work. you should check the file permissions and ownerships in /var/www06:40
Draginlpr -l?06:41
Draginnope... ls -l =)06:41
shady_hi, I need to change the Dock Location06:42
Draginhttp://pastebin.com/RnTTSP0R06:43
wilee-nileeshady_, The unity panel?06:43
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Dr_willis!dock06:43
ubottuUbuntu includes several dock-like navigation bars. Some options are: avant-window-navigator, cairo-dock, docky (formerly part of gnome-do), stalonetray, simdock, kdocker, kooldock.06:43
DraginStill not real food the the x's and such, but it seems the user and root have access to all06:43
Draginfood = good :P06:43
Dr_willisIf you want a 'dock' you can set the left side panel to auto hide then use a dock like above06:43
shady_yes the on in the left06:44
Dr_willisshady_,  you really cant move the panel. at least its not supported06:44
Dr_willistheres some unofficial and buggy hacks out that might do it.. or may break the system badly06:44
xmetalhmm06:44
reisioshady_: there are some solutions in the comments of https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/668415 IIRC06:44
ubottuUbuntu bug 668415 in Ubuntu "Movement of Unity launcher" [Undecided,Won't fix]06:44
xmetalwith that typo, its easy to see someone's got the munchies06:44
Wiz_KeeDhey guys!06:45
Dr_willisive definatly seen some of those solutions have worse issues then the panel :)06:45
overcluckerDragin: can view /index.html in your web browser?06:45
Draginno06:45
shady_how should i know if it is supported or not06:45
Dr_willisshady_,  none are supported. the panel is supposed to stay on the left side06:46
DraginForbidden You don't have permission to access / on this server.06:46
Dr_willisshady_,  if you want a panel at the bootom - use a dock likd cairo dock06:46
Draginthat is from localhost AND from the web site if I use a different computer06:46
Draginshould I chmod the folders?06:47
Draginto 755 or 777?06:47
Dr_willis777 is NEVER a good idea06:47
Dr_willis;)06:47
reisioWiz_KeeD: hey06:47
JordanJ2What's 755?06:47
* Dragin is so lost when it comes to this... 06:47
reisiohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_permissions#Numeric_notation06:48
Dr_willis!permissions06:48
ubottuAn explanation of what file permissions are and how they can be manipulated can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions06:48
Wiz_KeeDhow's it going reisio ?06:48
* Dragin has a very, VERY rudimentary idea of this heheh06:48
overcluckerJordanJ2: rwx rx rx06:48
reisioWiz_KeeD: meh06:48
Dr_willisi saw an app on android that let you check the boxs and see the rwx and  #'s :)06:48
Draginread/write don't know what x is though06:48
Dr_willisone way to learn them i guess06:48
reisiolike almost every GUI "ftp" client06:49
Dr_willis7=rwx 5=rw   i think06:49
reisiono need to memorize the numbers except for efficiency's sake06:49
Dr_willisa Directory Must bve 'x' in order for you to enter/see its contents06:49
Draginx = what though?06:49
Wugexecute06:49
Dr_willisX = executable06:49
Draginahhh06:49
reisioone third of a blue film06:49
Flannel5 is r-x06:49
Dr_willisso you dont want files executable if they are not06:49
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Draginindex.html almost has to be though, right?06:50
Dr_willisexecutable? I VERY much doubt it06:50
FlannelDragin: it's better to use the alphabetical notation anyway.  It gives you more control over what actually happens.06:50
Dragineh???06:50
FlannelDragin: No, apache/your-web-server is running.  HTML files are purely source/data files that are read by that program.06:51
reisioHTML only has to be read to achieve its entire use06:51
reisiowritten to be modifiable by a CMS06:51
reisioand never executable :p06:51
Wiz_KeeD:))06:51
Draginright, and I will prolly have a cms there06:51
reisiomost CMSes will tell you if they require permission changes06:52
Draginalmost certain of that06:52
reisioof course, most CMSes are gaping security holes, too :)06:52
reisioeven most that aren't written in PHP :p06:52
BruceSreisio: NO - index.html should not need to be executable06:52
FlannelBruceS: that's what he said.06:52
DraginFlannel, how would I go about using alpha notation? I have never seen, nor heard of that one in a chmod06:52
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Draginnet split06:53
xmetalhmm06:54
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JordanJ2Dragin: Servers under a net split?06:54
reisionope, all in your head06:54
FlannelDragin: things like a+r or o-w and such.   You should read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions  it'll explain all of this stuff, and keep you from accidentally breaking things and having to reinstall.06:54
Draginlooks like it to me06:54
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DraginI used to be a mod in a large chat room many moons ago, and it did this all the time06:54
reisioit's a little thick, but if you man chmod, /rwx06:55
reisioand stare at it for a while06:55
reisioit'll start to make sense06:55
DraginOh, ok. I think I have seen that Flannel. Thank you for clarifying that for me =)06:55
Flannelreisio: Or read that wiki page!06:55
reisiobut that was already linked!06:55
xmetallol, floodbots ... flooding06:55
xmetal;)06:55
reisiowhen aren't the06:55
reisioy06:56
lkeijserhi, I'm trying to create a preseed file but it fails at the late_command part. This is the relevant part: http://dpaste.com/1384085/06:56
DraginI just chmod --help06:56
Dragingonna figure it out06:56
DraginThanks for all the help'06:56
overcluckerDragin: it can add or subtract permissions like this: chmod u-x,g+w,o-rwx afile06:56
nikitakitI tried adding the mozilla nightly ppa. There was an error:06:58
nikitakitError reading https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa: EOF occurred in violation of protocol (_ssl.c:547)06:58
nikitakitany ideas?06:58
redcaamd64 ?06:58
redcais the iso for?06:58
nikitakit?06:58
lkeijserredca: x86 64bit06:59
redcak06:59
linuhi all i am trying to install ccid 1.4.12,i got following configure error,can you help me http://pastebin.com/7Pe5zsW906:59
lkeijserlinu: why do you have to configure as root?07:02
cfhowlett!ppa|nikitakit, it's a PPA ... firefox is in the repo's.  If you choose to go OUTSIDE the repos via PPA, well ...07:02
ubottunikitakit, it's a PPA ... firefox is in the repo's.  If you choose to go OUTSIDE the repos via PPA, well ...: A Personal Package Archive (PPA) can provide alternate software not normally available in the offical Ubuntu repositories - Looking for a PPA? See https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas - WARNING: PPAs are unsupported third-party packages, and you use them at your own risk. See also !addppa and !ppa-purge07:02
nikitakitcfhowlett: I know it's a ppa07:03
nikitakitthe issue is that ubuntu can't connect to the ppa07:03
nikitakitso somethings wrong there07:03
nikitakit(i.e. it can't even get the package list from the ppa)07:03
cfhowlettnikitakit, I'd suggest contacting the package maintainer07:04
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linulkeijser because i have working on /opt directory ,when i configure without sudo it shows permission issue,so that i have given sudo before the ./configure07:05
lkeijserlinu: then don't run from /opt if you don't have rights to write there. Unpack in your own home dir, run configure , make and then 'sudo make install'07:06
kangpingHello. Anyone here, who would be kind enough to help me with bumblebee?07:06
emiliohola!07:07
cfhowlett!es|emilio,07:08
ubottuemilio,: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.07:08
linulkeijser ya i will try07:08
linulkeijser now i am working on my home folder,eventhoug it shows the same configure: error: use PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/local/lib/pkgconfig ./configure issues07:10
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DraginForbidden You don't have permission to access / on this server.07:11
DraginIs it POSSIBLE the Linux Firewall is blocking me?07:11
nevynDragin: not if you're getting that error07:11
gr33n7007hCan anyone justify this friggin PS1 I cannot of the life of me get the if/else statement to work? => http://pastebin.com/zmbu93Wy07:11
wafflejock__Dragin: it's a response from apache07:11
DraginI knew you were gonna make me cry :P07:11
reisiodon't cross post07:11
nevynbecause the firewall has permitted you talking to the service it's just said you're not allowed the resource you asked for.07:12
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gr33n7007hreisio, sorry07:12
wafflejock__Dragin: it means you don't have a DirectoryIndex configured for that "endpoint" if you try with an absolute file name does it work?07:13
wafflejock__Dragin: if not then you have it pointing to the wrong folder07:13
DraginI tried sudo chmod -R +rwx+rw-x+rw-x ~/public_html/index.html...07:13
Peri_AHi. I have a lot of folders and files that are owned by nobody. I need to change them to owned by root and realise I likely have to use the chown command, but can't get the syntax right Most grateful for any assistance..07:13
DraginI don't think I got the correct result07:13
Dragintried it for /var/www as well07:13
wafflejock__Peri_A: I believe, sudo chown user:group folderPath -R07:14
wafflejock__Peri_A: check 'man chown' for details though07:14
Draginthat what you mean by an absolute file name?07:14
Peri_AThanks wafflejock...will give it a go.07:14
wafflejock__Dragin: like http://localhost/index.html07:14
Draginno, but I will now07:15
wafflejock__Dragin: if it works with the file name specified it means you're just missing DirectoryIndex I believe07:16
DraginForbidden You don't have permission to access /index.html on this server.  then  You don't have permission to access /home/jeff/public_html/index.html on this server.07:16
wafflejock__Dragin: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_dir.html07:17
wafflejock__okay07:17
wafflejock__so what I wrote right there doesn't pertain right away07:17
nevynDragin: did you fix the permissions on the file?07:17
wafflejock__so do you have a /home/jeff/public_html/index.html file on the machine?07:17
Dragin-rw-r--r-- 1 jeff root  220 Sep 13 17:21 index.html07:18
Draginturned from green to white07:18
Draginyes, I do07:18
Ben64Dragin: you need to make sure apache can get in /home/jeff/public_html07:19
Dragin-rw-r--r-- 1 jeff root  220 Sep 13 17:21 index.html07:19
wafflejock__Dragin: right what Ben said07:20
Draginthat is in the ~/pblic_html07:20
Draginpublic even07:20
Dragineh?07:20
Ben64pastebin the following --- "ls -ld /home /home/jeff /home/jeff/public_html"07:20
Draginhow would I do that?07:20
Draginnot /home/home... Just 107:21
Ben64type that into a terminal and paste the resulting text at pastebin.com and give us the url07:21
Draginhttp://pastebin.com/j0nfQQDk07:23
DraginWhy do I get the feeling .home needs to be for root and for jeff?07:24
Ben64then it seems like a apache conf problem07:24
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Ben64and you don't need root on anything07:24
Draginfor apache to be able to navigate to public_html07:24
Ben64nope07:25
Draginok07:25
Draginso then I need to look at my apache.conf?07:25
Ben64yeah07:25
Draginok. thanks Ben07:25
Draginand all others =)07:25
Ben64http://pastebin.com/HNnezVzf07:26
Ben64thats my directory setup, no root in my directories07:26
alpha_I downloaded the .tar.gz wine1.6 packet ... how to install it ?07:27
Ben64alpha_: you shouldn't ... wine is available in the repository and also from ppas, installing manually is the worst way to do it07:28
alpha_Ben64 : but its about 500 Mb and my internet speed is low07:28
DraginI would have never gotten this... I just sudo gedit /etc/apache2/apache2.conf.... it is blank =(07:29
Ben64alpha_: wine is not 500MB...07:29
Draginwait!07:29
wgb?07:29
DraginMaybe not. I goofed again07:29
Ben64Dragin: you should use gksudo for graphical applications, not sudo07:29
Peri_ABrilliant Wafflejock - that seems to have done the trick! Many, many thanks.07:30
UserErrorWhat is the smallest you can get wine? Just curious07:30
* Dragin is still a newb and learning =)07:30
DraginThanks Ben07:30
UserErrorwith um, ---NIR07:30
alpha_Ben64 : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6118310/07:31
Ben64alpha_: if you look closely, you're not doing it correctly07:32
wafflejock__Peri_A: no problem07:32
alpha_Ben64 : why ?07:33
Ben64alpha_: because of the space... you told it to install anything that has "1?6" in it07:33
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DraginWOOT!!! I got it fixed so I can see it on localhost now anyway! =)07:36
DraginAnd it is on the network! =)07:36
Dr_willisUserError,  even with the .tar.gz thats most likely the source.. and you wont be able to compile it07:36
DraginCould someone please go to finestnutrition dot com and tell me what (if anything) they see?07:37
willybilly0101should I use gnome or kde?07:37
UserErrorI see nothing07:37
UserErrorJust kidding, i see this is a test07:37
auronandacewillybilly0101: whichever you prefer07:38
DraginHow many lines User?07:38
UserErrorI dunno like 5 or so "friday the 13th"07:38
UserErroror something07:38
cfhowlettwillybilly0101, how would we know your preferences?07:38
DraginClose enough!@ =)07:38
DraginThanks guys! =)07:38
Ben64Dragin: you shouldn't host a website on a residential connection, its usually against ToS07:38
DraginMy web server is FINALLY up and running! =)07:38
willybilly0101how should I choose?07:38
Ben64willybilly0101: try them07:39
auronandacewillybilly0101: by trying both and seeing how they suit you07:39
Ben64Dragin: you could get disconnected or charged for a business connection07:39
DraginIt isn't like I am gonna get a hundred hits lol07:39
UserErrorSome lamer is going to DDoS you07:39
cfhowlettWillybilly0101  flip a coin and man/woman up and make up your own darned mind?07:40
DraginAnd if they charge me for a business connection surely I would be making money for it to be noticed by them07:40
UserErrorwilly , choose Luna07:40
Dragintbh, though, I never read the ToS. Maybe I should though\07:40
Ben64Dragin: you should just get a real server07:40
UserErrorDragin, Amazon gives you a micro server free for a year07:41
zimboi'm trying to make a usb startup disk using 'startup disk creator; - when trying to erase the disk i'm getting this error 'org.freedesktop.UDisks.Error.Failed: Error creating partition table: helper exited with exit code 1: Error calling fsync(2) on /dev/sdb: Input/output error'07:41
willybilly0101actully I'm just curious what people answer07:41
UserErrorAzure gives you a micro or medium instance free for a month and supports ubuntu07:41
willybilly0101I use kde anyway :)07:41
* Dragin is broke, and mainly doing this as a learning experience07:41
zimboi already formatted to usb disk from the terminal07:41
UserErrorsorry, 3 months07:41
zimbobut it will not create a bootable iso disk without erasing it07:41
zimboi mean the disk creator won't07:41
DraginI will check into those07:42
Dr_williszimbo,  input/output error = the disk may be bad.07:42
UserErrorJust search google for aws free07:42
zimboDr_willis: it was made in China so you're proabably right07:42
zimboit's a cheap item07:42
Dr_willisi imagine most are made in china. ;)07:42
UserErrorGuys, where can I download a specific deb directly from ubuntu?07:42
UserErrorFTP / HTTP / Etc07:43
UserErrorfrom another version, not using the name but the number07:43
Ben64don't install packages from other versions :|07:43
UserErrorI'm not... i'm going to fix another python script07:45
UserErrorand the original07:45
UserErrorsince UBuntu screwed up two versions in two different OS's07:45
hzyghi07:50
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hzyghelp07:50
Industrial"Ubuntu 13.04 will be supported for 9 months and includes cutting-edge new features such as the Grizzly release of OpenStack." Where can I learn more about this openstack install? I'm running Virtualbox on OSX.07:50
cfhowlett!ask|hzyg,07:50
ubottuhzyg,: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience07:50
cfhowlett!openstack|Industrial,07:50
Industrial!grizzly|Industrial,07:51
Industrial:D?07:51
IndustrialUbuntu 13.04 offers a complete solution for building highly available, flexible and secure OpenStack production clouds with scale out storage, networking and compute capabilities.07:56
Industrialthats great but I cant find anywhere how to install it07:56
Industrialwhere is the guide/docs?07:56
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cfhowlettIndustrial, it's like ... it's like ... you're not even trying.   http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/tools/openstack07:57
cfhowletthttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenStack07:57
killerhey , what is XDG_CONFIG_HOME?07:57
cfhowlettIndustrial, also #openstack is where you should be.07:58
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Industrialcfhowlett: I went to that page, first thing i saw was a contact form for the sales team of canonical07:58
wilee-nileehttps://help.ubuntu.com/13.04/serverguide/ubuntucloud.html07:58
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Industrialcheers07:59
geirhakiller: http://standards.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest.html08:02
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geirhakiller: Basicly, if you want applications to put their config files somewhere other than ~/.config, you set the XDG_CONFIG_HOME environment variable to the desired directory08:03
ak5does anyone know where the documentation for the lamp-server^ meta package is?08:03
UserErrorman08:03
ak5man what08:04
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geirhaak5: /usr/share/doc/«package-name»/08:05
ak5geirha: assuming I don't have it installed?08:06
UserErrorhttp://manpages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search.py?q=08:06
UserErrorput package at the end08:06
UserErroryou could technically bashrc a curl command to pull manpages that way08:07
geirhaak5: Assuming you have it installed08:07
gm10gdg08:07
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gm10_lal08:08
gm10Witaj ;d08:08
gm10_Witam08:08
gm10Co tam ?08:09
UserErrorEnglish please08:09
gm10_obciołem se a tam?08:09
gm10Sam se english plis,.08:09
DJonesgm10: This channel is English only08:09
gm10I from poland08:09
gm10_płeć08:10
DJones!pl08:10
ubottuNa tym kanale używamy tylko języka angielskiego. Możesz uzyskać pomoc w języku polskim na #ubuntu-pl.08:10
cfhowlett!pl|gm10,08:10
ubottugm10,: please see above08:10
gm10I only speak poland , i dont speak english ;308:10
gm10I can speak poland ?08:10
cfhowlett!pl|gm10,08:10
gm10Me and my friend ?08:10
gm10_i lika ice strem :D08:10
DJonesgm10: Please use #ubuntu-pl for support in Polish language08:10
cfhowlett!pl > gm10,08:10
* cfhowlett ... troll suspect08:11
gm10Co robisz szczamek ? xd08:11
gm10_nic liszka08:11
gm10Idiota.08:11
gm10Co robisz ?08:11
DJonesgm10: This is not a general chat channel, its for support only08:12
IdleOnegm10 and gm10_ Please stop08:12
gm10Why join other chanel ?08:12
gm10Use /chanel ?08:12
IdleOnebecause this is an English language supprt channel, if you need support please speak in English08:12
gm10_hi08:12
DJonesgm10: Use /join #ubuntu-pl08:12
* cfhowlett ... troll confirmed08:12
IdleOnecfhowlett: that is not helpful08:13
cfhowlettIdleOne, you're right.  sorry.  I let frustration get the best of me.08:13
IdleOnecfhowlett: happens :)08:13
BruceSis there a log anywhere of when I do a password change using passwd, if so, where?08:13
cfhowlettBruceS, there IS  a terminal command which shows the age of the current password ... don't remember the command though.08:14
gm10gm10_ is idiot xD08:15
gm10_eat ice cream08:15
tritonas00is there a serius reason that canonical have chosen to go with mir ?08:15
gm10Piss joł ;d08:15
cfhowlett!mir|tritonas00,08:16
ubottutritonas00,: Mir is the next-generation display server currently under development by Canonical and Ubuntu. It's slated for inclusion in Ubuntu 14.04. For more information on it, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Mir/Spec . For code, see https://launchpad.net/mir08:16
tritonas00yes i saw that08:16
tritonas00i dont see why not wayland...08:16
UserErrortritonas, shhh don't worry ;)08:16
tritonas00i dont worry xD08:17
wilee-nileetritonas00, This is support not chat08:17
tritonas00sorry then08:17
gotRootGRUB error in UEFI system:   http://pastebin.com/ec1sRFju08:17
tritonas00:)08:17
cfhowlett!ot|tritonas00, a discussion best fitted in OffTopic08:17
ubottutritonas00, a discussion best fitted in OffTopic: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!08:17
wilee-nileegotRoot, backbox would not be supported here08:18
gotRootwilee-nilee:  I strongly believe GRUB is the same for any linux based OS.08:19
gotRootwilee-nilee,  I strongly believe GRUB is the same for any linux based OS.08:19
wilee-nileegotRoot, you might try ##linux if you are registered with freenode08:19
gotRootAnyone ( minus wilee-nilee ) ready to help???  GRUB error in UEFI system:   http://pastebin.com/ec1sRFju08:20
gotRootjoin ##linux08:21
wilee-nileegotRoot, /join ##linux08:21
zhangxunhello08:25
cfhowlettzhangxun, greetings08:25
Draginhow do I see what version of Apache2 I have? (i.e 2.0 or 2.2)?08:26
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dionysiushey, i've installed ubuntu 13.04 using miniCD, was going through straight forward and selected "openssh" and "ubuntu desktop" in the program list. Now when its booting i see first the ubuntu background transition and after its going into black screen, looks like a terminal and after some time i get: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#3 stuck for 22s - I had 12.04 on this laptop before - its the first time i used miniCD.08:28
ak5Dragin: apache2 -v08:28
Draginthanks ak5 =)08:28
Draginanswer... neither lol. 2.4.6908:30
Draginerrr... 2.4.6 too08:30
ak5Dragin: wtf version of ubuntu comes with 2.408:30
somsip_!info apache208:30
ubottuapache2 (source: apache2): Apache HTTP Server metapackage. In component main, is optional. Version 2.2.22-6ubuntu5.1 (raring), package size 1 kB, installed size 29 kB08:30
vetwangcn有说中文的吗?08:31
DraginI was going by the php site. it said 2.0 or 2.2. I guess they need to do some updating of their site ;)08:31
somsip_!zh | vetwangcn08:31
ubottuvetwangcn: 如欲獲得中文的協助,請輸入 /join #ubuntu-cn 或 /join #ubuntu-tw08:31
ak5vetwangcn: 我们都不会说中文08:31
irimienglish only, please :)08:31
xroHi, i get an RAM error on an ubuntu server (by snmp). How can i checj RAM status locally?08:33
Roryxro: What error are you getting? And what version of Ubuntu?08:35
xroRory, i get "DIMM is degraded" ubuntu 12.04 server08:36
xroRory, how can i get RAM status ?08:37
ActionParsnipxro: use memtest from Grub08:40
xroActionParsnip, i mean from the server shell and without rebooting...08:43
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DelphicOkamixro: LMGTFY http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=137467008:48
infinit__motion is not live streaming on my ubuntu server, i have nginx could it be the reason why it's not streaming in my browser ? but it saves JPGs and Moviews08:56
lpapphi, how come I do not see an openssh daemon present in /var/run although I can still ssh onto the machine?09:15
dan00b_riverShould I update the 12.04 kernel to 3.8 on my EC2 instance?09:16
dan00b_rivertrying to setup dokku and there are known issues running it on 3.2 kernels09:16
UserErrordan00b_river , 12.04.3 uses the 3.8.x kernel already09:18
UserErrorsudo apt-get dist-upgrade09:18
dan00b_riverUserError:Did that - upgraded to 3.2.0-53-virtual09:19
dan00b_riverdokku (docker, actually) seems to have an issue running under 3.2 and 3.8 is recommended.09:19
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dan00b_riverNow, I could download the debs and install using dpkg but I'm questioning the possibilty, and to some extent, sanity of doing it.09:20
UserErrorDo it again09:20
dan00b_riverokay, trying it now.09:21
dan00b_rivernope, nothing to do. "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."09:22
cfhowlettdan00b_river, is there some tangible benefit to upgrading that you are NOT getting at present?09:23
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dan00b_rivercfhowlett: kinda. Trying to setup dokku for my newbie projects.09:23
dan00b_riverI am new to the world of development and I thought it would be helpful to have my own ec2 instance to deploy to.09:24
dan00b_riverCurrently I deploy to heroku but i thought I should give dokku a try.09:24
cfhowlettdan00b_river, seems a good idea.  well, as the new kernel seems not to be in the repo yet, I guess you can wait for it or (if you're impatient) dpgk -i the .deb09:25
dan00b_riverhmm. now that's a relief. I thought I was doing something wrong!09:25
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dan00b_rivercfhowlett: would you recommend I go ahead and dpgk -i it?09:25
dan00b_river*dpkg -i, sorry09:26
dan00b_riverThing is, I've already setup my wordpress blog on the EC2 instance. Else I would've simply terminated and fired a new 13.04 which comes with the default 3.8, IIRC...09:27
cfhowlettdan00b_river, come on.  surely there's a way to update the kernel and NOT lose your wordpress?  I don't know but .. there's GOT to be  a way.09:27
dan00b_rivercfhowlett: two ways if I've performed my google-fu correctly.09:28
dan00b_riverone is dpkg -i09:28
dan00b_riversecond is to take a copy/snapshot/something like that. to a new instance.09:28
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dan00b_riverterminate the old one, fire a new one and copy back.09:29
dan00b_riverI'm not entirely sure about the second, being a total greenhorn about the whole thing. Hence, apprehensive.09:29
dan00b_riverAS for the the first, slightly worried whether 3.8 plays well with 12.0409:30
cfhowlettdan00b_river, maybe ask in #ubuntu-server?  pretty sure there's also an amazon channel about as well.09:30
dan00b_rivergood lead. I'll ask them.09:30
dan00b_riverThanks a ton for the time and help cfhowlett09:30
dan00b_riverSorry to have trouble you with a newbie's stupidity. :)09:31
cfhowlettdan00b_river, best of luck to you.09:31
gordonjcpdan00b_river: why bother upgrading to a possibly problematic kernel?09:31
cfhowlettdan00b_river, NO apology needed.  we all started as noobs09:31
dan00b_rivergordonjcp: Didn't know it is problematic until you mentioned it. Trying out dokku, hence wondering if I should.09:31
gordonjcpdan00b_river: on a server you typically don't want the lstest and greatest09:32
gordonjcp*latest09:32
dan00b_riversorry gordonjcp, latest and greatest? help a newbie out here, what if the latest and greatest doesn't work with the rest of the O?.09:37
dan00b_river*rest of teh OS?09:38
[Gentoo]i think he means you want to stay with a stable kernel thats gona have support09:39
dan00b_river[Gentoo]: Oh, okay. I would want to stay with that, but then there's the tempation of dokku and deplying to my own instance rather than heroku.09:40
dan00b_riverTurns out #ubuntu-server is an empty channel. Is there a channel for Amazon EC2?09:41
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DJonesdan00b_river: There is ##aws Which says it has support for EC2 and other AWS services09:46
dan00b_riverDJones: Awesome, thanks. Will try asking the question there...09:46
paranoiaHunterjoin #deepweb09:51
dan00b_riverAccording to this forum thread: https://forums.aws.amazon.com/thread.jspa?messageID=428729 - updating the OS isn't possible, nothing about the kernel independently.09:51
paranoiaHunterclear09:51
Mig_So, I had a problem which I solved by mucking around with my graphics drivers and such... only now VLC uses a lot more CPU than it used to, any suggestions?09:52
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AlecTaylorWhat are the actual min rec RAM for Ubuntu 13.10 x64? - I tried with 1024MB on VirtualBox and it was very slow :\09:58
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DJones!requirements | AlecTaylor09:59
ubottuAlecTaylor: Hardware requirements to install, boot and comfortably use Ubuntu are listed at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements - For a !flavor with lower requirements, see !Xubuntu or !Lubuntu09:59
DJonesAlecTaylor: I think I've given 13.04 1gb in a vm and its not had that much of a problem, might be you need to up the graphics memory from the minimum10:00
geirhaAlecTaylor: That's because your VirtualBox doesn't have 3d-acceleration enabled. Though questions about 13.10 go in #ubuntu+1 until it is released10:00
AlecTaylorHmm10:01
dan00b_riverOkay, trawling the AWS forums yielded some interestig answers.10:03
dan00b_riverAccording to this forum thread: https://forums.aws.amazon.com/thread.jspa?messageID=428729 - updating the OS isn't possible, nothing about the kernel independently.10:03
jnhghyI used rsync command to copy recursively from one directory to another one, at the end of the rsync I checked the properties of the source folder and of the destination folder and they report different things: source folder says it has 53,554 items while dest folder has 53,066 items, is this an issue or is the number of items only aproximated when showned under properties?10:04
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geirhajnhghy: No, it should show the same, but there are many possibilities of why all files were not copied10:07
jnhghygeirha: thanks, just noticed I received an error code 23 -> seems to be some file permision issues....10:08
geirhae.g. missing read access to a source file, or missing write access to a destination directory. Perhaps you omited some dotfiles...10:08
TechmanYeah I wish Germany switched to giving out Lubuntu...because most XP machines will probably struggle running Unity10:09
sabgenton_I'm trying to remmber the name on an older imaging tool I think it was used with cpio mabye?10:09
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sabgentonlike dd10:09
thoonaihi10:09
sabgentonit could image while the system was going10:10
thoonaiim having trouble with my matrox graphic cards which are just partially working10:11
sabgentonI think linus torvalds  spoke against it10:11
sabgentonwell using it on running disk10:11
UserErrorTechman , they did... http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/06/germany-to-hand-out-free-ubuntu-cds-on-xps-deat10:13
sabgentonah10:13
sabgentondump10:13
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wa5qjhwhat happens if you try to install  a linux application in Ubuntu 11.04 if the package name ends in   .bin10:14
wa5qjhI would like to install TI Code Composer Studio For linux and MSP43010:16
wa5qjh is it likely to install?  There was only one version available.  it was that one or nothing.10:17
wa5qjh ???10:17
nevynwa5qjh: are there install instructions?10:18
nibblerwa5qjh: you can most likely execute this one10:18
crunch-chocoanybody using scribus here? i would like to remove the stupid status bar that is eating half my screen :O10:19
wa5qjhno instructions I could find. just a matter of "Here it is if ya want it"10:20
nibblerwa5qjh: ./foo.bin  # <-- just execute it (if you trust the source)10:21
wa5qjh I've installed the MPS430-gcc toolchain but it doesnt seem to do "PRAGMA" s10:21
wa5qjh pretty much trust it.  I think!!10:22
thoonaiany idea how to get a Matrox G450 Millennium running with Ubuntu?10:22
wa5qjhI had to "sign" an export license agreement for it.10:22
bulliconwhat is the best laptop to use with Ubuntu10:23
wa5qjhnot me. way outa my league!!10:23
TechmanOkay. I thought Ubuntu was being shipped somewhere10:23
TechmanWhich would be terrible.10:23
Techmanfor old XP machines10:23
thoonaibullicon: Lenovo ThinkPads are good supported laptops10:23
bulliconthoonai any alternative?10:24
bulliconthoonai does the touchpad work with ubuntu ?10:26
bulliconthe touchscreen ?10:26
dan00b_riverIn case anyone's still following the case of "How to update your EC2 Linux kernel" I found this: http://www.howopensource.com/2012/12/install-kernel-3-7-raring-in-ubuntu-12-10-12-04-11-10-11-04/ - but it says nothing about using it on EC2.10:27
dan00b_riverCorrection the case title should read: "How to update your EC2 Ubuntu 12.04 LTS v 3.2.0.53 kernel"10:27
dan00b_riverNot sure if this will work since quite a few users have mentioned on the Amazon forums that the instance falls back to the older kernel after reboot.10:28
leaf1231???10:28
dan00b_riverMaybe I should ditch EC2 entirely and think about moving to DigitalOcean or something.10:29
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dan00b_riverOh, there's also this slightly old link about booting into different kernels and user-supplied kernels on your EC2 instance: http://www.verious.com/tutorial/failsafe-and-manual-management-of-kernels-on-ec2/10:30
dan00b_river*end knowledge dump*10:30
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Techmandan00b_river: what do you use your servers for? I think you might like RamNode if your VPS needs aren't that big10:31
TechmanI find them a lot cheaper than EC210:31
UserErrorNot for the first year10:31
thoonaibullicon: I wouldn't use the touchpad and use the trackpoint10:31
TechmanWhat UserError ?10:31
dan00b_riverTechman: newbie dev. Still trying to learn python/Django.10:32
thoonaibullicon: Some Samsung work quite well with Ubuntu10:32
TechmanI have been using RamNode for months with a continuous discount code and there is no price hikes like Amazon pulls.10:32
TechmanOh okay dan00b_river10:32
bulliconthoonai nice would look into that10:32
UserErrorTech, they give u a free year now10:32
UserErrorminimum10:32
dan00b_riverwas basically trying to set up dokku on my EC2 to showcase my self-learning.10:32
dan00b_riverdokku needs a 3.8 kernel, my ec2 instance kernel is 3.210:33
TechmanUserError: I know about that but couldn't find a link about it. Also, that is sorta like a marketing trap :P10:33
UserErrorjust search AWS free10:33
TechmanAlright10:34
UserErrordoesn't matter, you can transfer w/python ez, esp if you use UBuntu10:34
dan00b_riverAnd yeah, I am using AWS at the moment primarily because free t1.micro instance10:34
dan00b_rivera year down the line, I'll have to either shell out money or find something cheaper - the monthly bill for a t1.micro is easily $34 or something.10:34
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dan00b_riverNot pocket change if you are living in India.10:35
TechmanWith RamNode, VPS' start at $2 and up10:35
dan00b_riverTechman: Interesting and pretty good from an Indian perspective! Will have to look into it.10:36
TechmanAlright10:37
jcbjoesorry guys playing with irssi10:37
TechmanI have joins/parts hidden because it helps save memory on IRC Cloud10:38
dan00b_riverTechman: smart move. how do you know when the user you're trying to talk to has quit the channel?10:39
TechmanYou don't I guess. If a user is not in the channel anymore they disappear from the tab list10:39
TechmanSo I can't tab their nickname10:40
dan00b_riverHmm. Just turned off joins/parts myself. Thanks for the tip. :)10:41
dan00b_riverNow the question I have to answer for myself is this: Do I wait and learn more or do I jump head first and do: http://www.howopensource.com/2012/12/install-kernel-3-7-raring-in-ubuntu-12-10-12-04-11-10-11-04/10:42
dan00b_river..and run the risk of destroying evrything I've created.10:43
dan00b_river(which isn't much, but still...)10:43
k1ldan00b_river: there are backports kernel for 12.04. just see the enablement stack10:43
dan00b_riverk1l: Uhh, could you n00b that down for me?10:43
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k1lhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack10:44
dan00b_riverthanks, reading it now.10:44
k1land i hope you are not on 11.04 or 11.10 anymore :/10:45
dan00b_riverNope 12.04.310:45
TechmanI love 12.04 LTS10:46
dan00b_riverI'm still learning to love LTS. :D10:46
TechmanI always use LTS. Certainly helps you avoid changes that are still in the works10:46
k1ldan00b_river: but if you are using a ec2 instance i dont think that is gonna work.10:47
thoonaiI want to get my matrox cards running but 12.04 seems to be to new10:47
dan00b_riverk1l: I was afraid you'd say that. :/10:47
k1ldan00b_river: a ec2 is not a regular install. that should be clear in the first place. you cant just follow ordinary howtos10:48
dan00b_riverI am now trying to check if there's a way to get dpkg -i the 3,8 kernel and use the pvgrun that Amazon offers to get the instance to boot into it rather than the default 3.210:48
dan00b_river*pvgrub, sorry10:48
dan00b_riverk1l: Oh, I learnt that alright. I learnt that the hard way... :(10:49
alex_whitewin 210:50
dan00b_riverThe process looks a little scary (understatement of the year) but if I'm careful at each step (wait, THIS is the understatement of the year) then maybe...10:50
dan00b_riverAnybody got any other ideas?10:51
k1li dont think you could exchange the kernel. i would recommend to talk to the ec2 support if you really need some special kernel10:52
dan00b_riverYeah, I guess I'll have to do that..10:53
dan00b_riveranyway, heading out for a bite. Will check back later to see if anyone has anything more to offer. Thanks everyone for the help! :)10:54
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JoshuaDgh11:03
karab44Hi all!11:04
JoshuaDHi11:04
pedHi11:07
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LeminoHi all, I need some support to get the settings for my touchpad right. I've been browsing various guides but so far haven't been able to reach a good solution!11:11
njsgdoes ubuntu have something similar to wgetpaste?11:12
ixioanyone know how to determine the version of zend framework running on a box ?11:14
ActionPa1snipixio: dpkg -l | grep -i zend11:15
ActionPa1snipixio: maybe11:15
JoBArTe_Skuldhi to all \o\11:22
joranissues with archive.ubuntu.com?  getting a 404 from apt...11:23
joranErr http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal-updates/main php5-dev amd64 5.4.6-1ubuntu1.2  404  Not Found11:23
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BruceSI have removed kernel 3.2.0-053 generic from a system and it is now running well with -052 - it hung periodically with 053 - have I prevented this system from getting patches when  I do apt-get dist-upgrade11:27
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joranclearly there is as moving to a different mirror worked.  oh well. I guess noone really cares.11:30
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kalekip1jordan: Most of us are AFK.11:42
ActionPa1snipkalekip1: gone11:43
kalekip1oh11:43
kalekip1xD11:43
kalekip1I disabled those messages, maybe I should turn them on again :/11:43
Voidnullhello !11:43
kalekip1Hello, Voidnull.11:44
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pandaerhello,everyone11:44
kalekip1Hi, pandaer.11:44
pandaerhi11:44
Voidnulli've one question once ubuntu has reached the max limit support its impossible to install packages using apt , i ¿is the any way to make it works again?11:45
lpapphi how come I do not see an ssh daemon running in the proc table, but yet: I can ssh onto the machine?11:45
kalekip1Voidnull: What do you exactly mean?11:45
Voidnulli meant one of the computer of my work has reached the max time supported theres any one i can fix it without update de system ?11:46
BruceSVoidnull: if you have reached End of Life you can not reliably get updates11:47
kalekip1Voidnull: How do you know that the support time is stopped? What version of Ubuntu do you use?11:47
kalekip1lpapp: Did you try using Google?11:48
Voidnull11.0411:48
ActionPa1snipVoidnull: there are no more updats fo Natty11:48
BruceSVoidnull: it is time to upgrade11:49
Voidnullso, i will have to update to 12.04 ... but the updates always left the system broken or something11:49
kalekip1I'm on 13.04, not that you should care though ;)11:49
LuyinVoidnull: rather install newly instead of upgrading11:49
lpappkalekip1: ?11:50
jch2osI'm using scrollout F1 as a spam gateway, but I would like something that will quarantine and I can train using a web frontend.  Kind of like maia mailguard.  I was looking at dspam, but not sure how active that is anymore.  Anyone have any suggestions?11:50
Voidnullyep ill do the same11:50
ActionPa1snipVoidnull: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases   EOL of Natty is 28th Oct 201211:50
ActionPa1snipVoidnull: I suggest a clean install of Precise. It is LTS and supported til April 201711:50
ActionPa1snipVoidnull: You can also upgrade in one step to 14.04 when it is released next year as itr is LTS to LTS upgrade11:51
Voidnullthanks ActionPa1snip  ill reinstall the system i was wondering if there was a way to avoid it but ... np :)11:53
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choiaLocate the FAIL: http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=80012:02
kalekip1?12:03
choiaIt seems that the ubuntu keyboard have a WIN key :)12:03
Luyinis that a win-key? :D12:03
kalekip1lol, not a big deal12:03
kalekip1Oh, it's flexible! That's why it's called flexboard12:04
kalekip1XD12:04
coalwaterhi all12:05
morten77I would love to remove the ugly Win key myself... I never use it and it is in the way12:06
coalwatermorten77: you don't use unity ?12:07
BadbitI had one of those 10 years ago.12:07
morten77or at least move it somewhere else, perhaps above the numerical keypad?12:07
BadbitIt's just a rebranding of a really crappy keyboard that's impossible to type on.12:08
morten77hehehe no I don't use unity lol12:08
mario___i can't start my xubuntu 13.04, when i start my pc i see blue screen with loading for 2-3 sec and later i see only black screen with cursor on top left angle, i can't startx i have got a message: failed to start session "gnome", i can start terminal via alt+f1,f2... can someone help me to repair my xubuntu ?12:08
morten77Badbit: aha is it like the dell keyboard that lose some keystroks if you type to fast?12:09
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kalekip1mario___: Can you provide us a screenshot?12:11
kalekip1mario___: Do you have a camera?12:11
kalekip1morten77: Why not? Windows/Apple/Super key is really useful12:12
_JoshuaI saw one with a cover that said "END LIFE"12:13
kalekip1morten77: I use [CTRL] + [Super] + [D] All the time >:D12:13
kalekip1!ot12:13
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!12:13
linu1hi i have been trying to install ccid 1.4.4, i just confiure as below,but there is output files like /usr/local/lib/pcsc please see http://pastebin.com/0XXUTx64 can you tell me what is that issues12:14
mario___kalekip1: i can't provide screenshot, i'm connected to irc via irssi started from pc with broken xubuntu12:14
sulo__Hi guys good afternoon or morning :D12:14
kalekip1mario___: Hmmm, what does it say? Can you read it?12:15
kalekip1Hi, sulo__.12:15
_Joshuadont try too hard, kiddo12:15
kalekip1_Joshua: To who are you talking to?12:16
mario___kalekip1: what can i read ?12:17
kalekip1mario___: Doesn't the blue screen give you a message?12:18
kalekip1mario___: Only a blue screen?12:18
morten77kalekip1: what do ctr-super-d do?12:18
kalekip1morten77: Minimize every window12:19
mario___kalekip1: the blue screen show for 2-3 sec, after blue screen with xubuntu logo i see only black screen12:19
mario___with cursor in top left angle12:19
mario___when i start terminal and type startx i see message: failed to start session "gnome"12:19
morten77kalekip1: aha, well I never do that.12:19
sulo__Kalekip1 you are admin or what? :D12:20
kalekip1mario___: Are you dual booting?12:20
kalekip1sulo__: No, why?12:20
morten77I assume minimizing all windows is to reach the icons on the desktop? wouldn't be smarter to have those icons in its own plane/window that can be put on top of the others? just an idea12:21
Natalia19Morenahola12:21
mario___kalekip1: no i have only xubuntu12:21
sulo__kalekip1, you were here yesterday and you resolved your problem with booting I think, btw Congratulation :)12:22
Luyinmorten77: or to hide your browser window *g*12:22
kalekip1sulo__: Yes, thanks :p12:22
sulo__:P12:22
morten77mario___: can you put windows on the black screen? (with not window manager I guess they'll be borderless though), like if you start xterm & from the textmodeconsole12:22
sulo__maybe you can help me now just for information12:23
mario___morten77: i start terminal with alt+f1 to connect to irc via irssi12:23
sulo__do you know what does the word SIGSEGV means?12:24
kalekip1sulo__: Segmentation Violation Signa, why?12:24
kalekip1Signal*12:25
sulo__ubuntu just shows  me update-notifier error12:25
morten77signal something... Segmentation fault12:25
sulo__just typical message...12:25
sulo__Ubuntu has experienced an internal error...12:25
kalekip1sulo__: Not a big eal, is it?12:26
sulo__isnt there any channel called bugs or something like that?12:26
kalekip1deal*12:26
sulo__ya12:26
sulo__It just shows me this message but nothing else happened12:26
sulo__no crashes12:26
kalekip1sulo__: This is a place where the geeks and upcoming geeks come together. This isn't a guaranteed help chat12:26
sulo__k12:27
kalekip1sulo__: I suggest coming back in 4 hours12:27
lelellHey, is it possible to enter a key combination at the "Enter Password"-screen of an already logged in user to log him out?12:27
kalekip1sulo__: Then more people will help you out12:27
morten77sulo__: when do you get this segmentation fault error? what program is buggy12:27
sulo__wait12:27
sulo__It will be better to save it as image - print screen etc...12:27
sulo__then I can give you a link I think It is useless to write loong story out there12:28
lelellI'm asking 'cuz I'm sitting at school and some d-bag has forgot to log out and I can't press the power button to shut down the computer for some reason.12:28
morten77mario___: try ask in #xubuntu channel too if you can't fix the problem12:28
kalekip1sulo__: Alt + Prt Sc12:28
Luyin!language | lelell12:28
ubottulelell: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family-friendly, polite, and professional.12:28
sulo__I know :(12:28
sulo__:)12:28
sulo__ty12:28
mario___morten77: ok thanks12:28
trdillon1I have Ubuntu 12.04 LTS  and I always get a failed the DKMS installation part of the ati driver install. I think I have all the depencies installed. Any ideas what I', missing?12:28
sulo__what should I gonna do If that report is quite loong12:29
kalekip1sulo__: Text? Pastebin12:29
kalekip1!pb12:29
ubottuFor posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic.12:29
Luyinlelell: what login manager?12:29
sulo__thanks ubottu12:30
sulo__I am Ubuntu newbie12:30
kalekip1sulo__: ubottu is a really a bot. I woke him up12:30
kalekip1lol12:30
sulo__OMG now I see :D :D12:30
lelellLuyin: Just the default one that comes with 12.0412:31
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Luyinlelell: select the user you want to log in to and ignore the logged-in one12:31
sulo__can I get is somehow to console? :D12:31
kalekip1sulo__: [CTRL] + [ALT] + [T]12:32
sulo__I know12:32
kalekip1sulo__: called Terminal on Mac + Linux12:32
kalekip1sulo__: not what you was looking for?12:32
sulo__but you know It is an report I cant copy the text :D12:32
kalekip1sulo__: then !screenshot12:32
kalekip1!screenshot12:33
ubottuScreenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it.12:33
sulo__ok If you want to have 5 images... :D12:33
sulo__maybe one screenshot wil be enough12:34
kalekip1sulo__: idrc :p12:35
CSy-nWhere can I ask questions about terminal commands?12:35
mjaykCSy-n: here or there is a page full of them on the ubuntu wiki12:35
kalekip1CSy-n:  I guess just here12:35
kalekip1!channels12:35
ubottuA list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist and !alis - See also !Guidelines12:35
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anoukhi12:37
kalekip1Welcome, anouk.12:37
cariveriHi. is 14 GB a reasonable amount of data on the / partition (without /home) ?12:37
anouki need some help installing a intel driver on a Atom laptop12:37
kalekip1cariveri: For installing Ubuntu?12:38
almostworkingcariveri, yes, at least for my distro installs 20GB is normally  , my  /  partition  , unless u install a ton of apps. etc12:38
mjaykcariveri: depends where you plan on storing stuff if you plan on installing stuff to your /home then yea should be fine12:38
ActionPa1snipcariveri: yes, I use 10Gb. Depends on needs12:38
sulo__1 screenshot remains12:38
cariveriI gave /  15 GB an now im running out of space. it was obvious since my last upgrade.12:39
Luyincariveri: it depends strongly on what you like to do. if you need to install a lot of apps, you're probably looking for a bit more12:39
anouki need help installing cedar drm driver... anyone ?12:39
Luyincariveri: got 50 GB on / here12:39
cariveriLuyin: I originally hoped apps were put on /home wich is larger.12:39
almostworkingbtw, im installing dual boot, on a laptop with 12.04.3 ... and i am givin a slider bar, showing how to divide storage , but doesnt say which window is for which OS.12:39
mjaykcariveri: you can set it as such12:39
Luyincariveri: afaic not by default12:39
kalekip1anouk: Did you go to the Intel website?12:40
sulo__kalekip1, are you still here?12:40
kalekip1sulo__: Yes, I am.12:40
cariveristill. isnt there any where to tear down this amount. I already deinstalled locales. next comes docs, tha tI dont need.12:40
anoukyes i did, it seems the best drivers are the powervr ones, just don't knoz how to install12:40
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kalekip1anouk: Install or update?12:41
anoukinstall12:41
ActionPa1snipalmostworking: I recommend you do the resize in Windows12:42
kalekip1anouk: Not sure, but maybe this helps? http://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/using-intel-compilers-for-linux-with-ubuntu/12:42
mjaykActionPa1snip: really :o12:42
almostworkingoh? ActionPa1snip , there is a issue using the ubuntu installer to shrink the windows OS partition??12:42
anoukthanks ill check it out12:42
kalekip1anouk: I don't think so, I'll Google it if I can12:42
sulo__uploading takes hours and hours, grrrr12:42
Luyinactually, I'd recommend using a live OS to rearrange partitions.12:42
ActionPa1snipmjayk: yes, Windows has a resizer for NTFS and NTFS is proprietary to Microsoft who make Windows12:44
cariverimjayk: hmm ok. perhaps I should reconsider freeing space and putting /usr on a seperat partition. what size woudl you suggest?12:44
sulo__hey kalekip1, check out these screeens hope it will help http://imagebin.org/271161 http://imagebin.org/27116512:44
anoukwell12:44
ActionPa1snipmjayk: so imho it makes sense to use the Microsoft tool to resize the Microsoft filesystem12:44
anoukinstallation fails from driver update12:44
lpappanyone for my question/12:44
lpapp?12:44
kalekip1anouk: Maybe this one? https://downloadcenter.intel.com/default.aspx12:44
ActionPa1snipmjayk: makes sense when you actually think about it12:44
almostworkingreally? curious why , but ok........  is there some sort of guide, ive been pure linux since version 6, so, ........12:44
ActionPa1snipmjayk: so in response. "YEs, really"12:44
kalekip1lpapp: What's your question? sulo__: What happens if you press continue?12:45
ActionPa1snipmjayk: why would it be a bad idea?12:45
BluesKaj'Morning folks12:45
kalekip1Welcome, BluesKaj.12:45
mjaykActionPa1snip: Id always use ubuntu in my experience windows is not good at resizing has a higher fail rate, id also never do it in an installer either12:46
BluesKajhi kalekip1  thanks12:46
sulo__kalekip1 bad question I suppose,  press continue?? It is an bug report so wake up or not? :D12:46
kalekip1sulo__: I meant, dismiss. Everything works fine, right?12:47
lpappkalekip1: see above12:47
kalekip1sulo__: if it happens again, then send report?12:47
sulo__kalekip1 I am sorry I am just dumbasss after pressing continue nothing else hapenned everything is running fine, sorry again12:47
ActionPa1snipmjayk: far easier to plan partitions and then you dont have to resize ;)12:47
anoukhmm12:47
anoukso12:47
sulo__should I try update my system? :)12:47
anoukhow do you use a makefile ?12:48
kalekip1sulo__: Don't worry. This is a nice community. That's why I am here.12:48
almostworkinghmmm, well i can use Knoppix, or rescuecd,  or whichever tool is best to resize windows  first if thats what i should do.....  i already did a image of windows, so i dont realy have to worry if it goes wrong12:48
devjustforfunHello guys. Could any body help me with english. I know many people in here know english.12:48
kalekip1sulo__: Once in a while I do: sudo apt-get update12:48
sulo__kalekip1 thank you maan everyone must start sometimes :(12:48
sulo__:)12:48
CSy-nOk, I have a text file with an address in it. and I want to ssh to that address. the command would be something like 'ssh $address-in-file'.12:48
kalekip1devjustforfun: Maybe #ubuntu-offtopic?12:48
Picidevjustforfun: ##english12:49
Version1Hi, laptop overheat issue. temperature 75-80+C even if CPU is throttled to about 1GHz. possibly GPU is the reason. ubuntu 12.1012:49
sulo__kalekip1, maybe I am newbie but I got an error while updating my 12.10 version to 13.04 but I fixed it so now I am running clean 13.04 :)12:49
devjustforfun<Pici> i have wrote in ##english already12:49
kalekip1sulo__: Me2 ;)12:49
PiciCSy-n: just one address? ssh $(cat filename)12:49
kalekip1Version1: I hope it doesn't melt bro12:49
almostworkingVersion1, what kinda laptop, and has it ever been cleaned if old?12:50
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almostworkingthat TEMP is the CPU or GPU  ?12:50
kalekip1Version1: Fan, cooling, etc.12:50
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sulo__while running update It just shows me 404 error and that means It couldnt find some files becase they are on other places12:51
dtcrshrHello! im trying to install ubuntu via an usb stick but I got pointed to initramfs all the time. I can see the error on the terminal complaining that a /dev/sd0 were not found. I have disabled all on bios I wouldnt use, floppy, printer ports... Is any low level loading mode so I can install ubuntu?12:51
kalekip1Cleaning the fan from dust ALWAYS help a bit.12:51
Version1almostworking: temp is CPU laptop: macbookPro 2006 not cleaned12:51
kalekip1dtcrshr: I did it like.. yesterday :p Did you use the Universal tool?12:52
sulo__kalekip1,now I know maybe there is problem with downloading translation for my language but that is ok I rather use english It is pretty good for learning :)12:52
cfhowlettdtcrshr, how did you create the USB.  Did you md5sum to verify the download integrity?12:52
kalekip1sulo__: For computing, English is my preferred language. Dutch is lame on the internet...12:52
almostworkingahh, i see Version1 , those run pretty hot normally, esp. under load .  cleaning it out and putting some artic silver might help a bit ...... however that laptop is not easy to take apart.12:52
sulo__anyway I am from the czech republic and my language is f.ckingly hard so .. :D12:53
almostworkingand they do have a recall on the nvidia GPU on the 2007 - 08 models ,12:53
almostworkingif u have ATI should be ok12:53
kalekip1sulo__: I think Chinese and Russian are the hardest to learn :p12:53
Version1almostworking: its ATI12:53
dtcrshrIv created via "universal usb installer" (also tryed yumi, same results) the md5 is fine, I can boot on another netbook iv tested12:54
almostworkingok, well, you could check the forums but i had one and that thing was hot to the touch when it was under a heavy load.12:54
[Gentoo]kalekip1: im amazed how people can even read japanese / chinese etc with all them little symbols12:54
kalekip1!ot12:54
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almostworkingi have a thinkpad now.12:54
sulo__lol try czech language to read It is also hard as hell :D12:54
[Gentoo]nah im ok lol12:54
Rorydtcrshr: Can you select the "check integrity" option from the first menu when you boot from the USB?12:55
kalekip1I'm losing a bit track of the chat. It's been busy now. Please mention the name of somebody and that person will receive a notification/message will be highlighted.12:55
cfhowlett!who12:55
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sulo__hope there will be the new version of ubuntu :)12:55
kalekip1cfhowlett: Thanks! :p12:55
sulo__kalekip1: ok12:56
sulo__:D12:56
kalekip1sulo__: 14.04 will be coming next year I just heard.12:56
sulo__kalekip12:56
sulo__I am looking forward really :)12:56
kalekip1sulo__: ?12:56
kalekip1sulo__: :p12:56
almostworkingubuntu version 8 was their  " white album" imho .  a beetles reference , best i could think of.12:56
cfhowlettalmostworking, "beetles"??? shameful.  "Beatles"!12:57
asdf-www-data was deleted from /etc/passwd... how do i add it back?12:57
sulo__kalekip, can you say me what is the oldest version of ubuntu I am too lazy to find it on wikipedia :D12:57
kalekip1!ot12:57
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cfhowlettsulo__, warty warthog12:57
almostworkingim tired, im running on empty here which you can tell by my contant use of   "  ,  "12:57
Clifford_hi everyone, i have problems extracting and installing xampp.tar.gz. Any help is appreciated12:57
kalekip1asdf-: "was deleted"? Did you delete it?12:57
asdf-kalekip1, yes, manually. i thought it was created by an install script12:57
kalekip1Clifford_: Web development? Use LAMP.12:57
asdf-kalekip1, did you really have to put me on the spot like that ;)12:58
kalekip1Clifford_: sudo apt-get install lamp-server^ phpmyadmin12:58
sulo__cfhowlett - thanks a lot :) It seems I must google it to find more informations :)12:58
Clifford_kalekipl: isn't it the same thing12:58
ActionPa1snipClifford_: why do you need the file?12:58
kalekip1Clifford_: I know, do you really want XAMP that much?12:58
ActionPa1snip!lamp | Clifford_12:58
ubottuClifford_: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process.12:58
sulo__cfhowlett - now wayyy Ubuntu 4.10 oh my good do you think It can work with my netbook? :D12:59
kalekip1XAMP is for Cross-Platform. that's the X. The L stands for Linux12:59
Clifford_kalekipl: yes i do. I need to use mysql12:59
fede1208ciao12:59
fede1208!list12:59
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cfhowlettsulo__, netbook?  xubuntu or lubuntu 12.04 would be my recommendation.12:59
Pici!xampp | Clifford_12:59
ubottuClifford_: We do not support XAMPP installs here. Please use the LAMP stack that is in our repositories; see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP for more information.13:00
almostworkingsulo__, you need a light distro or something?  version 4?13:00
kalekip1Pici: LAMP is easier13:00
Clifford_ActionPalsnip: I think its the same thing13:00
Clifford_t13:00
Picikalekip1: thats my point.13:00
Clifford_ubutto: let me check it out13:00
cfhowlettsulo__, both are optimized for older and lower spec machines.  do NOT use old/unsupported distros.13:00
kalekip1Clifford_: Many people don't know that ubotto is a bot. It's not a joke x)13:00
sulo__cfhowlett , nah I completed upgrade from 12.04 to 13.10 having some troubles with it but finaly my machine is very new :)13:01
traplinis there anyway to use the BCM43211 chipster (for wireless), without using ndiswrapper? as in a natively supported driver for Linux?13:01
ActionPa1snipClifford_: yes bt its a package and makes things easier for you13:01
traplinchipset*13:01
ActionPa1snipClifford_: you dont need any 3rd party stuff13:01
ActionPa1snipClifford_: the how to explains it all and gives the commands to run and you will get what you desire13:01
sulo__cfhowlett - I am thinking about Blackubuntu - CD but one man recommended me virtualisation program....13:02
almostworkingtraplin, not be sound like a knob, but u can get intel   or other brand internal wifi radio for your laptop on ebay?  wifi N , etc ?13:02
asdf-can anyone tell me how to recreate the www-data group?13:02
almostworkingif u really want to make things easier, that is13:02
ActionPa1snipsulo__: xubuntu and lubuntu are light and suppored here. Blackbuntu is not supported here in any way13:02
cfhowlettsulo__, I have no basis to compare so ... no opinion.13:02
traplinalmostworking: i am on a desktop, and unfortunately not, i want to see if i can first get my USB dongel to work before buying a different device13:03
almostworkingsulo__, why woudl you want to run bbuntu?13:03
sulo__almostworking - to be honest I heard about some cracking and they shown that in blackubuntu :D13:03
kalekip1asdf-: No idea, I'm sorry. What's your Ubuntu version?13:03
dtcrshrRory: I got no such option13:03
Clifford_ActionPalsnip: in what way is it easier?13:03
sulo__almostworking - I mean cracking Router's setup :)13:04
almostworkingoh, ok traplin ,  i got a $14 USB small wifi for my desktp a long time ago works great ,  Airlink101  is brand. some other nice ones out there too with excellent linux support13:04
dtcrshrthe first one is "run ubuntu live"13:04
traplinalmostworking: it did work, but then i installed a newer kernel (to deal with heavy performance / cpu issues). but that broke the ndiswrapper and basically it can be fixed13:04
mjayktraplin: wireless usb dongles are one of the only hardware parts that still have awful linux support i think ndiswrapper may be your only option13:04
almostworkingsulo__, oh, well ud prob. be best to use a VM for that kinda thing.13:04
traplinalmostworking: oh okay. i can look into that13:04
ActionPa1snipsulo__: cracking wifi is also not supported her13:04
Clifford_kalekipl: oh! a bot huh! no wonder13:04
kalekip1Clifford_: my name clearly ends with a "one" (1)13:05
traplinmjayk: yeah got it to work with ndiswrapper on the kernel packed with 13.04, but with a newer kernel, it didn't work anymore13:05
almostworkingits woth it, i still use mine traplin , it comes in handy, i dont need it since i redid entire houses networking.13:05
almostworkingit is worth it*13:05
almostworkingonly $11 - $1513:05
traplinalmostworking: think i could get it in South Africa?13:05
sulo__ActionsPalsnip - Ii already tried some drivers for my wifi because my wifi card doesnt support natively injection of packets but It didnt work for me :(13:05
mjayktraplin: any reason you upgraded your kernal ? if no specific reason you may be better of switching back13:05
kalekip1Clifford_: You can also do: (type) "kal" + (press) [tab]13:05
Rorydtcrshr: What options do you have? There should be "Try Ubuntu without installing", "Install Ubuntu" and an option to check the medium for errors13:05
almostworkingtraplin, yea, you have ebay there yes?13:05
traplinalmostworking: yeah but shipping here is a bit of a risk. lots of things get stolen :/13:06
almostworkingoh i assumed you had a local ebay there.13:06
Clifford_kalekip1: sorry about that, i didn't notice13:06
traplinalmostworking: unfortunately not. but i am looking online now13:06
traplinthanks for the help13:06
ActionPa1snipsulo__: what wifi chip does it use ?13:06
kalekip1Clifford_: Don't worry :p13:06
mjaykalmostworking: do i detect sarcasm :D13:06
almostworkingyou dont know anyone that is state side traplin , send you a wifi USB maybe some other stuff in a teady bear , or something?13:07
sulo__ActionPalsnip - if you mean Atheros 9285 is it right, now I have driver ath5k.sys right now13:07
traplinalmostworking: haha unfortunately not. is the airlink supported out of the box?13:07
traplini found one on amazon, which ships to south africa fairly safely13:07
Clifford_now about extraction and installation, does someone have any idea on how to go about it13:08
tucemiuxanybody knows if the gtx 660 works on ubuntu with the hdmi connection?13:08
[Gentoo]tucemiux: why shouldnt it13:08
mjayktucemiux: afaik yes no reason why it shouldnt13:08
RoryClifford_: What are you trying to do?13:08
almostworkingthe airlink 101 adapter i have , im sure they make more then one has worked with 95% of the distros i have tried.  linux mint 12 i think didnt like it  but other then that every debian based distro i have put at it ....... worked fine13:08
tucemiux[Gentoo], because ive been trying it and it doesn't work13:08
sulo__ActionPalsnip- If you know command to show informations about my devices you can tell it me now I cant remember how It was13:08
[Gentoo]tucemiux: the drivers support that card13:08
Clifford_Rory:  I am trying to extract and install xampp13:09
Clifford_Rory: or lampp13:09
almostworkingedimax is another that is popular, i think thats based of memory  people also use them for rasberry Pi . which im working on now after i get my dual boot done.13:09
tucemiux[Gentoo],  would you happen to know how to install the drivers because im trying whats on the forum from what obuttu tells me and it's not working on my machine13:09
tucemiux!nvidia13:09
ubottuFor Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/VideoDriverHowto13:09
mjaykalmostworking: do edimax use ralink chips ?13:09
[Gentoo]my gf uses the tiny edimax usb13:10
mjayktucemiux: what drivers are you currently using13:10
[Gentoo]dont work without downloading the driver13:10
almostworkingi really dont know mjayk , i just know that its supported hardware for rasberry pi. which most people run debian based distros on13:10
almostworkingahhhh, see [Gentoo] knows what im talking about13:11
almostworkingthe airlink is the same way, just works  " out of the box" so to speak13:11
Rory!lamp | Clifford_ read this information13:11
ubottuClifford_ read this information: LAMP is an acronym for Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP. However, the term is often used for setups using alternative but different software, such as Perl or Python instead of PHP, and Postgres instead of MySQL. For help with setting up LAMP on Ubuntu, see  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP - See also the Server CD installation process.13:11
tucemiuxmjayk,  according to the forum, the first thing i should try is  System->Administration->Hardware Drivers, which is not installed on my machine, so i went to the software center and installed the current drivers, now i have really small resolution that cant be changed13:11
almostworkingnever gonna get back to my PS3 game,  i just wanted a URL for dual bootin since the ubuntu installer cant shrink my NTFS without windows freaking out?13:12
almostworkingi might switch out this hard drive in this thinkpad anyway thou , hmmm.13:12
mjayktucemiux: the system admin hardware drivers way is out of date13:12
mjayktucemiux: try this13:12
mjayktucemiux: sudo apt-get install arandr13:12
mjayktucemiux: then run arandar from terminal13:13
mjayktucemiux: arandr13:14
Clifford_Rory:  I have read the info. Can it be done with an outdated version of ubuntu13:15
tucemiuxmjayk, will that help me install the drivers?  The first time I tried it xrandr only had one resolution available, i reimaged the machine,  tried installing the drivers and now im back tow here i started, i booted up to safemode and im currently running a check disk13:15
RoryClifford_: no13:15
RoryClifford_: How outdated? What version?13:15
Clifford_Rory: 11.0413:15
RoryNo13:15
traplinare wifi PCI cards supported mostly by Ubuntu?13:16
RoryYou will need to upgrade to 12.04 or later, in order to be able to download from the repositories13:16
mjayktucemiux: arandr should allow you to select the correct res once you have the drivers installed13:16
asdf-what is the best way to recreate the user & group 'www-data'?13:16
almostworkingtraplin, i dunno, a good brand is a safe bet thou.13:16
Rorytraplin: Yes, it doesn't matter if it's PCI or whatever, the part that matters is the wireless chipset13:16
tucemiuxmjayk, the trick is "once you have the drivers" installed.  How do I know if I have the drivers installed?13:17
traplinRory: is there possibly a page that has a list of supported chipsets?13:17
kalekip1!repeat | asdf-13:17
ubottuasdf-: Don't feel ignored and repeat your question quickly; if nobody knows your answer, nobody will answer you. While you wait, try searching https://help.ubuntu.com or http://ubuntuforums.org or http://askubuntu.com/13:17
Rorytraplin: Tale a look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported13:18
* almostworking is curious what Clifford_ needs to do...... 13:18
traplinRory: thank you13:18
Rorytraplin: generally, Ralink 2500/RT2400 (802.11G), Realtek RTL8180 (802.11G), and the Atheros AR9170 chipset (802.11N)13:18
Clifford_Rory: ok, thanks13:18
Rorytraplin: If I were you I'd avoid Broadcom chipsets if you have the option13:18
almostworkingoh is Clifford_ lookin for supported wifi too ?13:19
traplinRory: yeah, i have a USB broadcom chipset, so i am seeing if i can get a realtek one now13:19
RoryNo almostworking he is trying to install Apache etc13:19
almostworkingoh ok13:19
tucemiuxmjayk, how is arandr supposed to change my resolution when it only has one available(640x480)13:20
mjayktucemiux: you said you had drivers installed13:20
mjayktucemiux: there are many ways to install drivers either through the software center or through the vender website13:21
Clifford_almostworking: supported wifi? seriously?13:21
tucemiuxmjayk, that's what im trying to do, I asked for help installing the drivers - I showed you the first step I did in my attempt and now I have low resolution13:22
traplinRory: http://www.dlink.com/us/en/support/product/dwa-121-wireless-n-150-pico-usb-adapter , would that possibly work with Ubuntu on a different kernel to the generic?13:22
mjayktucemiux: then you did it incorrectly, what version of ubuntu are you using13:23
tucemiuxmjayk, i installed the 'current driver' using the software center, rebooted the machine and now am on low graphics13:24
almostworkinglots of talk in here Clifford_  , im tried trying to keep up, some people might not want to dive into CLI to get wifi working, and just spend $10 , if thats the seriously part13:24
mjayktucemiux: again what version of ubuntu are you using13:24
coalwatertucemiux: you have a dual graphics card ? ati ?13:24
almostworkingim also tired, and never got my dual boot on13:24
tucemiuxcodename: raring13:24
galloisHello... I'm facing a problem while automatically setting my timezone with a configuration manager since around last month. I used to copy the /usr/share/zoneinfo/posix file to /etc/localtime and since my last change in configuration, that is yesterday, it broke and I had my clock set to UTC. The last working configuration was from Sep. 05, using an auto generated AWS AMI with the latest updates (raring release). On further investigation, I found that the f13:24
galloisthat I used to copy was now turned to a symbolic link, while previously it was a regular file. I tried to find a changelog for these updates online but failed. Can someone tell me if there were changes in that respect or where can I find the changes on release updates? Thanks in advance.13:24
tucemiuxmjayk, raring 3.8.0-30-lowlatency13:24
tucemiuxcoalwater, no, i have an nvidia gtx 66013:25
mjayktucemiux: so in the "current drivers" menu you had more than one to choosefrom ?13:25
coalwaterI thought nvidia was easier on ubuntu with the bumblebee project13:25
tucemiuxmjayk, in the software center- yes but how do I check to see what's currently installed?  I had the vga drivers and that at least gave me a usable resolution13:26
mjayktucemiux: to find out what you installed go back to current drivers and look whats selected13:26
coalwatergallois: why not just recofigure it using `sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata` ?13:27
almostworkingif you have inxi installed tucemiux you can output ur diver info into the channel....... /exec -o inxi -Gx13:28
tucemiuxmjayk, im not sure what you mean about going back to "look whats selected"?  You mean in the software center?  That's what they are called, the drivers are called "Nvidia binary X.Org driver('current' driver)"13:28
mjayktucemiux: yes and there are more to select from ?13:28
galloiscoalwater: I did that to fix the servers that are running, but since I use autoscale to handle the traffic, my next servers will now launch with a wrong tz setting13:28
tucemiuxalmostworking, im using my laptop to irc, I can't irc on my desktop because of the tiny resolution13:28
[1]RoachHi everyone, I have a question13:28
kalekip1Hi, [1]Roach.13:29
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tucemiuxmjayk, sorry if I didnt tell you this already but yes - the software center gives me 3 options, version 96, current driver, and version 17313:29
kalekip1!details | [1]Roach13:29
ubottu[1]Roach: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."13:29
galloiscoalwater: I'm intending to change the puppet files that copy the file to deal with the modifications, but I would also like to know where can I find out about those changes13:29
almostworkingah ok......  tucemiux . well when ur on your computer in terminal you can do  inxi -Gx  and that will output your display information.13:29
almostworkingjust fyi13:30
almostworkingother stuff inxi does too13:30
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[1]RoachI'm trying to run Ubuntu 13.04 along side windows 8 but everytime I load it my screen goes full black and nothing happens afterwards13:30
DJones!nomodeset | [1]Roach This sounds like a starting point for black screen problems,13:31
ubottu[1]Roach This sounds like a starting point for black screen problems,: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter13:31
ActionPa1snip[1]Roach: what video chip do you have?13:31
tucemiuxalmostworking, inxi is not a package known to my ubuntu o.O13:32
[1]RoachOkay thank you, and I have no clue right now I just woke up13:32
coalwatergallois, I dont really know where the settings are, sry, tried `locate` but couldn't find a config file13:33
almostworkingyea, i just realized that, my primary OS isnt ubuntu , im in a VM and trying to figure out best way to dual boot on a thinkpad i just got13:33
* almostworking has a VM to handle specific things 13:33
ActionPa1snip[1]Roach: does the system have a make and model?13:33
UNIm95hi 2all13:33
kalekip1Welcome, UNIm95.13:34
almostworkinganyway, u can wget inxi  , off the top of my head i cant say the long string to do that thou ,13:34
tucemiuxalmostworking, what do you mean the "best way" to dual boot?  Get 2 hard drives and dual boot.  You dont have 2 hard drives?  Then what do you currently have?13:34
Rorytucemiux: what is the outpur of "inxi -Gx" ? Can you put it on http://paste.ubuntu.com13:34
tucemiuxinxi: command not found13:34
almostworkingits a Thinkpad, it has one drive and its  a X61 so cant really do two hard drives tucemiux13:34
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galloiscoalwater: it's cool... I can work around it, no problem at all, was just trying to track it down to its source so I can be more robust from now on :)13:34
Rorytucemiux: What Ubuntu version are you using?13:35
coalwaterCurrently i have 2 ufei os'es win7 and ubuntu, by default i none of the 2 would book, the grub wouldn't start, i need to press f10 on the boot and explictly choose grub,otherwise it will hang on black screen, already tried boot-repair twice, no change, any idea anyone ?13:35
kalekip1tucemiux: I have 1 HDD (1 TB) and used 3 NTFS partitions. 1 Linux, 1 Windows and another 1 for everything else.13:35
tucemiuxRory, raring 13.0413:35
[1]Roachyes It is a Lenovo Ideapad N58013:36
tucemiuxalmostworking,  before you do anything, I suggest you backup your hard drive unless you have recovery CD's for you thinkpad, then I can show you what you need to do without having to worry if you hose your laptop13:36
[1]Roachpre installed with windows 813:36
almostworkingi already did a image of windows install via ssh into desktop machine,13:36
ActionPa1snip[1]Roach: so you can maybe use the web to find out, or check windows device manager......13:36
ActionPa1snip[1]Roach: nothing tricky, right?13:37
tucemiuxalmostworking, how is your hard drive partition right now ?13:37
almostworkingthe thinkpad,  pure windows right now, ive not touched it yet.13:37
almostworkingso one big NTFS partition.13:38
galloisis there any resources where I can find the changelog of each update of a specific release, e.g. raring?13:39
[1]Roachwell when the screen is all black like the computer is off I can hear the login sound of Ubuntu13:39
DJones!changelog | gallois Not sure if this is what you want,13:39
ubottugallois Not sure if this is what you want,: changelogs for Ubuntu packages can be found on http://changelogs.ubuntu.com13:39
kalekip1[1]Roach: Something wrong with your monitor?13:39
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alpha_how can I download the latest update for ubuntu 12.04.3 ?13:41
tucemiuxalmostworking, since you tell me you just installed windows and led me to believe you can reinstall without a problem - I also warned you about backing up your files but haven't said anything about whether its ok to continue in case you have to reimage your windows os13:41
kalekip1alpha_: Do you mean: sudo apt-get update ?13:41
coalwaterkalekip1: maybe he means the latest iso13:41
[1]RoachI'm thinking it is something wrong with the laptop itself13:41
UNIm95Alpha_ apt-get update && apt-get upgrade13:42
kalekip1[1]Roach: Yes, the monitor I think.13:42
galloisDJones: ;) many thanks13:42
coalwateralpha_: do you mean an iso or upgrading ur current installation ?13:42
alpha_kalejip1 : I do that but ubuntu is not update yet ...13:42
UNIm95Updates will be downloaded and installed13:42
kalekip1alpha_: Are you still installing Ubuntu?13:42
alpha_kalekip1 : yes13:42
kalekip1alpha_: You can update it later...13:43
kalekip1alpha_: Just get the correct ISO13:43
[1]RoachI'll have to go and get it checked then. Thank you everyone for all the help.13:43
BluesKajalpha_, you have to sudo apt-get upgrade, as well13:43
alpha_should I change the repository settings ?13:43
almostworkingi never said i just installed windows tucemiux ,  i have it sorted out, appreciate your concern thou,  i have 6TB of storage on the desktop ,  i just havent had windows on a personal machine dual booting since ubuntu v613:43
tucemiuxanyone knows what happened to the software sources ?13:43
kalekip1tucemiux: What do you mean? Which software sources?13:44
MonkeyDusttucemiux  meaning?13:44
UNIm95Tucemiux they are hidden in synaptic13:44
tucemiuxalmostworking, its a lot easier nowadays doing the dual boot but you always have to be careful, I installed linux first and then windows, I have 2 hard drives, all I had to do is install ubuntu, then windows, update grub, finished !13:45
tucemiuxUNIm95, thanks ill give it a look see13:45
alpha_my screen brightness did not work as well i use the fn key ...  ?13:45
UNIm95Tucemiux it is in preferences-repository13:46
tucemiuxUNIm95, right you are, theyre hidden in synaptic, I finally found them13:46
UNIm95Tucemiux in xubuntu they are in menu-system13:47
tucemiuxUNIm95, its in synaptic, I found it13:47
UNIm95Ok=)13:48
tucemiuxanyone knows what nvidia drivers I should be using for a gtx 660??  I'm looking at "Additional Drivers" in "software & Updates"13:48
mjayktucemiux: im sure if u google that youd get a btter answer13:49
tucemiuxmjayk, goggle brings me a lot of stuff that doesn't work anymore, even ubottu is of now help nowadays13:50
alpha_How can I install software with apt-get much faster ? Its very Slow13:50
almostworkinghmmm, usually I install windows first, the grub of the past didnt like sharing the MBR with liunx.13:50
mjayktucemiux: well the fist link on google seams to be good to be13:50
mjayk*me13:50
tucemiuxalpha_, get a faster internet connection, preferably close to the source13:50
mjayktucemiux: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/ubuntu-ringtail-nvidia.html13:51
alpha_tucemiux : How do it ?13:51
UNIm95Alpha_ what is slow? apt download evrything from internet. So it is so fast as your internet13:51
almostworkingbut this thinkpad doesnt have anything important on it, its a fraction of the storage of my desktop which stores almost everything,  off site backup  , but to keep it simple,  desktop is the main machine in the house13:51
tucemiuxmjayk, that looks really neat, thanks for the link!  I'm going to try the noveau display driver first13:52
alpha_UNIm95 : The download speed of the apt-get is about 1/10 my real internet speed13:53
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RiskwrqAnyone frm India/13:53
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MonkeyDustalpha_  try this https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4653463/ubuntu_speed.txt13:53
ikoniaRiskwrq: the location of people doesn't matter in this channel.13:53
tucemiuxalpha_, call your cable company and tell then you want a T1 line.  Preferably, just move to a place that's close to the ubuntu servers and get a T1 line in your new dig13:53
Riskwrqok13:53
mooncake it's quite weird. afaik, ubuntu's servers are fast13:53
MonkeyDust!in13:53
ubottu#ubuntu-in is the channel for Ubuntu in India13:53
UNIm95Alpha_ it is problem of repository server.13:53
Riskwrqbut m saying im indian13:53
Riskwrqok13:53
ikoniaRiskwrq: ok, thanks for letting us nknow13:54
tucemiux!hello | Riskwrq13:54
tucemiux!hi | Riskwrq13:54
tucemiux!hello13:54
ikoniatucemiux: we get it13:54
alpha_thanks13:54
tucemiuxikonia, how do we get the messages for new users? hi and hello is not working13:55
ikoniatucemiux: those factoids may have been removes as you don't really need a bot to say hello13:55
kalekip1!in | Riskwrq13:55
ubottuRiskwrq: #ubuntu-in is the channel for Ubuntu in India13:55
kalekip1Oh13:55
kalekip1already said13:55
DJonestucemiux: The best way is just to say "hello" rather than using a bot prompt, it makes it more personal13:56
Riskwrqok13:56
philinuxtucemiux: !ask13:56
kalekip1True ;)13:56
almostworkingwell i best be off, much to do.............13:56
tucemiuxikonia, actually,  it's very useful, I can just say hello to the user instead of having to explain to him this is a support channel etc. etc.13:56
kalekip1!ot13:56
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!13:56
UNIm95Question: what is official language of this channel?13:58
Riskwrq!in13:58
ubottu#ubuntu-in is the channel for Ubuntu in India13:58
DJonesUNIm95: English13:58
tucemiuxDJones, but when youre helping somebody and someone is helping you - you dont really have the time to be "personal" with someone that is politely starting with the pleasantries - just go ahead your question, if someone can help you - they will help you, if not then just wait13:59
tucemiuxjust my 2 cents though, a lot has changed and haven't really kept up with the changes13:59
UNIm95Djones and why we can not use here other languages? English should be on #ubuntu-en.14:00
theblindowlblackberry messanger exclusive on samsung phones.. crap14:00
mnemonUNIm95: because speaking 100 different languages on a single channel simply doesn't work, and english is the default.14:01
DJonesUNIm95: Its been that way since I started using Ubuntu with 6.06, the majority of other languages have individual channels, it helps avoid confusion having single language channels14:02
UNIm95ok14:02
tucemiuxmjayk, i'm stuck on "Applying changes..." you think that's a good sign? :-(14:03
abradleyI cannot sudo apt-get update or even ping www.google.com. What is my problem? http://i.imgur.com/udRPS7f.png14:03
abradleyI am ssh in14:03
abradleygateway and nameserver are set correctly14:03
mnemonabradley: can you ping the gateway and do you get a response from nslookup www.google.com14:04
alephantHi all14:04
abradleyping gateway yes14:05
abradleynslookup no14:05
mnemondo you get a response from ping 8.8.8.8 ?14:05
UNIm95abradley chek your dns14:05
UNIm95Check*14:05
alephantI need to install the same server repeatedly with a base ubuntu-server image, with some specific (but not overly complicated) RAID/LVM partition layout. In the current environment setting up a PXE infrastructure is not an option; I need to install from a DVD. Is there an easy way to create a custom DVD that will set up my disks and install automatically?14:06
philinuxtucemiux: hoe long has it been stuck14:09
jhutchinsalephant: Yes.14:10
jhutchins!preseed14:10
alephantjhutchins: googling, thx [multitasking ftl]14:10
defaultromorning folks. I was given this string last week and was told to make sure it's installed "php5-curl build-essential".  I got php5-curl installed. What about build-essential, what is it?14:11
alephantmy load is too high :-(14:11
alephantthrashing14:11
jhutchinsalephant: debian, and I presume ubuntu, has preseed, which is a script like answer file that automates the install, specifies packages, and can perform scripted configuration.14:11
helmut_hi14:11
kalekip1!details | alephant14:11
ubottualephant: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."14:11
ak5defaultro: you need it to build stuff14:11
defaultro?14:12
ak5defaultro: for ubuntu or certain applications14:12
kalekip1oops14:12
No_Onedefaultro, build-essential gives the default coding languages compiler stuff, like gcc etc14:12
kalekip1wrong guy14:12
alephantkalekip1: *I* am thrashing; *my* load is too high :-/14:12
defaultrois it something that i need to install?14:12
kalekip1alephant: sorry, wrong person, I wanted to send it to defaultro14:12
jhutchinsalephant: I haven't used it, but I use kickstart in RHEL/Centos a lot.  We serve the kickstart file from a web server within the network, and manually specify the kickstart and the ip address at boot.14:12
No_Onemost definitely defaultro14:12
defaultrowhat is it called?14:12
philinuxdefaultro: it is if you intend to compile from source14:12
alephantjhutchins: yep, but for reasons that aren't important that stuff isn't an option in this particular case14:12
No_Onebuild-essential or build-essentials14:12
* No_One looks14:12
jhutchinsalephant: In other environments I have re-mastered the CD to include the kickstart file, giving me a (dangerous) drop-in, reboot, and autobuild CD.14:13
* kalekip1 grims14:13
defaultroyou mean, build php5-curl from source?14:13
No_Onebuild-essential - Informational list of build-essential packages14:13
alephantjhutchins: oh wow, that's an awesome-yet-terrible idea ;-)14:13
ak5defaultro: ok, your instructions mean to run "sudo apt-get install php5-curl build-essential"14:13
defaultrooh so it's a package?14:13
No_Oneyes14:13
defaultroah, I didm;t know it was a package :)14:13
defaultroinstalling it now14:13
No_Oneok14:13
No_Onehave fun14:13
jhutchinsalephant: You'll want a red Sharpie to label it "DANGER!".14:14
defaultroinstallation completed :)14:14
defaultrothanks guys14:14
No_Onenp14:14
No_Oneo/14:14
defaultrothe instruction was confusion. I had all other packages in each bullet14:14
defaultrowas confusing14:14
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No_Oneheh14:14
philinuxdefaultro: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo14:14
defaultroonly php5-curl had build-essential on its side. Not sure why they did it that way14:15
* No_One compiles many things by source14:15
defaultrok14:15
philinuxdefaultro: what are you trying to do14:15
defaultrojust prepping a machine for drupal14:15
defaultroi'm just following notes provided to us14:16
No_Onewhen someone gives you a list and says install these "list of package" its "(sudo) apt-get install "list of packages"14:16
No_Oneo,o14:16
ak5defaultro: take a look at ansible. Do it once, never do it ever again14:16
defaultrok14:16
mao__ubuntu-cn   is not used ??14:18
* mooncake is preteding dead14:19
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DJonesmao__: Yes it is for Chinese language support, it may be a bit quiet though depending on how many users are at their computers at the moment14:19
defaultroalso, i install LAMP via tasked. How do I check if the mysql that was installed have PDO support?14:19
defaultroinstalled^14:19
kalekip1defaultro: phpinfo();14:20
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defaultrocool14:20
quick-hi < How can i see the current time on a linux terminal ?14:20
defaultroforgot that one :)14:20
larryapple3ANyome fron India/14:20
larryapple3manu: ?14:20
kalekip1quick: @time14:20
BluesKaj!in | larryapple314:21
larryapple3anyone from India/14:21
larryapple3guess not14:21
ubottularryapple3: #ubuntu-in is the channel for Ubuntu in India14:21
kalekip1BluesKaj: ty, just wanted to do the same14:21
cfhowlettMiss America14:21
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quick-kalekip1: The time shows the resource usage not the localtime.14:21
Indianlarryapple3: me14:21
cfhowlettquick-, try date14:22
philinuxquick-: type in date14:22
kalekip1quick-: in the IRC chat, right?14:22
kalekip1@time amsterdam14:22
ubottuCurrent time in Europe/Amsterdam: September 17 2013, 16:22:3014:22
quick-cfhowlett: date it is !14:22
kalekip1Works like a charm.14:22
kalekip1!ot14:22
defaultrosweet -> PDO driversmysql14:22
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!14:22
quick-kalekip1: Nope i said in a terminal . date is the command .14:23
jundoe!seen laptop14:23
ubottuI have no seen command14:23
jundoe!help14:23
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience14:23
kalekip1quick-: Sorry, I think too much :p14:23
larryapple3Indian:  reply14:23
quick-kalekip1: That's fine :D14:23
larryapple3!graphics14:23
larryapple3!idia14:23
Indianlarryapple3: reply for what? :)14:24
larryapple3Indian:  i sent u a mesage14:24
kalekip1larryapple3: Go to #ubuntu-bots to play with ubottu14:24
BluesKajlar if you have a question , ask14:24
BluesKajlarryapple3: ^14:24
larryapple3ok14:24
Indianlarryapple3: I didnt het them...14:24
larryapple3sorry14:24
larryapple3sent me one14:24
larryapple3try it14:24
larryapple3sorry guys :p14:25
Indianlarryapple3: my problem... cable irc is very limited...14:25
IndianI'll be back soon14:26
larryapple3ah14:26
larryapple3ok14:26
larryapple3ineiros_:14:26
larryapple3:)14:26
thebishopare there any unity plugins that allow for groups/folders in Launcher?14:27
thebishopi.e. "Music Apps", "Browsers", "Media Players", etc14:27
Indian_larryapple3, now14:28
philinuxthebishop: yes it called drawers - http://iloveubuntu.net/how-easily-group-items-featuring-their-own-mini-dash-unity-launcher-drawers14:29
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thebishopphilinux, THANKS THANKS THANKS14:32
philinuxthebishop: iirc there's also unity-launcher-editor but never used it14:32
mjaykphilinux: thebishop unity-tweak-tool i believe its a must14:33
thebishopmjayk, thanks14:33
philinuxmjayk: already installed14:33
mjaykphilinux: ah did i get the wrong end of the stick sorry if so :)14:33
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larryapple3oh no14:34
larryapple3he left14:34
larryapple3:(14:34
philinuxmjayk: no worries it's just a settings manager14:35
johannsomebody using linuxbox?14:35
larryapple3indian14:35
larryapple3?14:35
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mfilipehi! I wanna install the java oracle in a 64bits machine but I wanna use 32bits version. How can I do that?14:37
cfhowlettmfilipe, 32 can install on 64 bit with no problem.14:37
kalekip1Yup, but not vice versa14:38
philinuxmfilipe: ubuntu uses multiarch now.14:39
kalekip164 bit only means that the binaries can be twice as long14:39
johannkennt jemand linuxbox14:39
kalekip1johann, Englisch sprechen, bitte.14:39
kalekip1!de14:39
ubottuIn den meisten Ubuntu-Kanälen wird nur Englisch gesprochen. Für deutschsprachige Hilfe besuche bitte #ubuntu-de, #kubuntu-de, #edubuntu-de oder #ubuntu-at. Einfach "/join #ubuntu-de" eingeben. Danke für Dein Verständnis!14:39
johannsomebody knows linuxbox?14:39
DJonesjohann: What is linuxbox?14:39
riznawat is dis14:39
dan00b_riverOkay, I just documented my attempts at installing dokku on Ubuntu 12.04. Thought I'd share: http://blog.42quirks.com/install-dokku-on-amazon-ec2-ubuntu-12-04/14:40
sidmontujoin ##fpga14:40
kalekip1!ot | dan00b_river14:40
kalekip1!ot14:40
kalekip1Where's ubottu? :S14:40
kalekip1!offtopic14:41
Picikalekip1: lagging, be patient.14:41
ubottudan00b_river: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!14:41
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!14:41
tester_hey14:41
kalekip1Welcome, tester_.14:42
tester_what is gng on14:42
mustmodifyI'm confused about when ~/.bashrc vs ~/.bash_login vs ~/.profile etc... can someone point me to a solid explanation?14:43
philinuxtester_: this is a support channel14:43
Jamo_Hello, not sure if this is the correct place to ask but I am running Ubuntu 12.10 ans was wondering how I would go about altering the code for the pwd command. For example, where do I get the source from and what should I do while recompiling so it overwrites the current command?14:43
PiciJamo_: Why on earth would you ever need to do that?14:43
RoryJamo_: What result are you trying to achieve?14:44
cfhowlettJamo_, download the source code from the repos and hack your little heart out.14:44
mustmodifyJamo_: I can pretty much guarantee, based on that question, that there is a better solution to your problem.14:44
Jamo_Currently I can't seem to find an option for pwd to add a backslash when there is a space in the folder path, I was going to add this feature for my use14:44
mfilipecfhowlett: yeah, I know but I wanna install the java7 oracle 32bits package in a 64bits machine14:45
mfilipebut the package is for all archs14:45
Jamo_mustmodify: There probably is, but I can almost guaruntee I won't learn as much from it14:45
mfilipelook: http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu/pool/main/o/oracle-java7-installer/14:45
PiciJamo_: I'd define an alias to do that.  You seriously risk breaking things by modifying your shell's source to do that.14:45
RoryJamo_: pwd | sed 's/\ /\\ /'14:45
mfilipecfhowlett: I wanna force it to install the 32bits package14:45
Jamo_Pici: That's probably safer, but I don't really know much shell.14:45
Jamo_Although Rory's solution looks like it would work actually14:46
cfhowlettmfilipe, and sudo apt-get intall gives you >>> what?14:46
tester_how do i add new program in linux to create a new linux14:46
RoryCould you re-phrase that tester_ ?14:47
mustmodifythere has got to be a tool you use to escape a string... pwd | something14:47
Rorymustmodify: read my answer above14:47
Jamo_Rory: I believe that woiuld only alter the first instance14:47
RoryJamo_: pwd | sed 's/\ /\\ /g'14:47
mfilipecfhowlett: it installs the 64bits package14:48
Jamo_Rory: Perfec, thank you14:48
Jamo_perfect*14:48
cfhowlettmfilipe, ah, well.  You could download the 32bit .deb and then sudo dpkg -i foo.deb14:48
mfilipecfhowlett: but the package downloads the java7 for 64bits through the oracle website :(14:49
cfhowlettmfilipe, go directly to oracle and download the 32bit file from them14:50
bsdbanditim running ubuntu server 10.04 LTS does cgroups work on ubuntu 10.04 or do i need to upgrade to 12.0414:50
mfilipecfhowlett: and configure through java-alternatives?14:50
bsdbandit?14:50
cfhowlettmfilipe, I've never done it, so that would only be my guess.14:50
cfhowlett!ubuntu-server|bsdbandit,14:51
ubottubsdbandit,: Ubuntu Server Edition is a release of Ubuntu designed especially for server environments, including a server specific !kernel and no !GUI. The install CD contains many server applications. Current !LTS version is !Precise (Precise Pangolin 12.04) - More info: http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu/serveredition - Guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/C/ - Support in #ubuntu-server14:51
bsdbanditi understand that i was just curious14:51
bsdbanditif anyone used cgroups14:51
bsdbanditin linux14:51
mustmodifyI'm confused about when ~/.bashrc vs ~/.bash_login vs ~/.profile etc... can someone point me to a solid explanation?14:52
Jamo_Sorry to bother you again Rory, but the "pwd | sed 's/\ /\\/g'" command does not insert a space after the "\", meaning its not formatted correctly. How do I fix this?14:52
Jamo_Nevermind, was my mistake14:52
RoryJamo_: I was going to say, what crazy sed are you running? Glad it's working14:53
Jamo_Rory: Haha, thanks for the help :)14:53
bsdbanditthanks guys im all set14:53
abradleyIs there a tool that I can install with a gui to administer mysql users/dbs from the ubuntu 12 server command line?14:56
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kalekip1abradley: PHPMyAdmin14:57
kalekip1nvm14:57
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apt-get_installHi, someone that is good at GVFS?15:00
jackey_mi/echo $io15:00
jackey_mi/echo kk15:01
cfhowlettabradley, ask in #ubuntu-server   ??15:01
Piciabradley: mysql-client15:03
davidbrooke_I'm looking to disable a kernel driver for a remote control....any ideas?15:04
geniidavidbrooke_: Permanently or temporarily?15:04
davidbrooke_either for now15:05
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geniidavidbrooke_: Temporarily: just sudo modprobe -r <modulename>    ..permanently... put the module name in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf15:06
mfilipehow can I add an option to "update-alternatives --config javaplugin.so" ?15:08
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bkfitzDoes anyone know if there is an enable/disable for cron?  I have an entry in crontab -e that doesn't seem to be running as scheduled... and I don't see anything in my /var/log/syslog15:10
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whoeverhi all , i am tring to use DragSource.getDefaultDragSource(); but when i run the program i get an error that i cannot cast JVindow to transferable . but cannot seem to find any documentation , can someone assist ?  It is my understanding that transferable is the object that is being dragged15:14
kalekip1!details | whoever15:15
ubottuwhoever: Please give us full details. For example: "I have a problem with ..., I'm running Ubuntu version .... When I try to do ..., I get the following output: ..., but I expected it to do ..."15:15
whoeverubottu: thx wrong chan post15:16
ubottuwhoever: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)15:16
geniiwhoever: This seems more like a computer language issue than an ubuntu support question...15:16
thephpxhi all15:16
kalekip1genii: He just noticed. whoever: ubottu is literrary a bot.15:17
larryapple3hi cute ubottu15:17
larryapple3WIll u marry me ubottu15:17
kalekip1I woke him up15:17
kalekip1lol15:17
whoeverubottu: oh i alway thaugh you ran on windows :-)15:17
ubottuwhoever: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)15:17
otakbkfitz: cron has a daemon: service cron status15:17
Jamo_What escape char is needed to put a command that contains single quotes into an alias? e.g alias test='command '/path/route''15:17
kalekip1Jamo_: Did you try \ ?15:18
Jamo_a backslash doesn't sem to work15:18
thephpxi am facing an issue with ubuntu 13.04 which i also encountered in 12.04 LTS ... it suddenly shows black screen with debug message amongst which it says unable to resolve kernel null pointer difference15:18
thephpxany idea what the issue is?15:18
SwedeMikethephpx: did anything special happen right before this?15:19
mixtoolaa15:19
thephpxwell one sure shot way to make it happen is to be on skype + teamviewer at the same time15:19
Jamo_kalekip1: If I use \ it gives me this error: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `''15:19
mixtok dices15:19
SwedeMikethephpx: sounds like buggy hardware driver if it's reproducible like that.15:19
kalekip1Jamo_: Where are you putting it?15:20
PiciJamo_: Maybe #bash would be a better place to ask15:20
mixtoi live in spein15:20
Jamo_alias test='command \'/path/route\''15:20
Jamo_kalekip1:15:20
mixtohello15:20
thephpxhmm15:20
thephpxcan memory be an issue as well?15:20
thephpxif so how can i run memory test on ubuntu?15:21
SwedeMikethephpx: yes, it might be hardware related as well.15:21
mixtowere you from15:21
thephpxtrue hardware can also be an issue15:21
SwedeMikethephpx: at startup there is a memtest86 option usually (in GRUB)15:21
kalekip1Jamo_: Did you try to mix quotes and apsotrophes? (#bash can help you better)15:21
mixtonenes me cago lla kereis contestame de una puñetera vez15:21
Jamo_kalekip1: Yeah, I tried that. I'll ask there thanks15:22
kalekip1Jamo_: Good luck.15:22
mixtogili15:22
kalekip1mixto: English only, please.15:22
mixtook15:22
michagogo!nextversion15:22
michagogo!13.1015:22
ubottuUbuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+115:22
mixtohello15:22
kalekip1!es | mixto15:23
ubottumixto: En la mayoría de los canales de Ubuntu, se habla sólo en inglés. Si busca ayuda en español entre al canal #ubuntu-es; escriba "/join #ubuntu-es" (sin comillas) y presione intro.15:23
mixtoeeei15:23
mixtoyou are silly15:24
JoBArTe_Skuld!br | $me15:24
ubottu$me: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para entrar no canal por favor faça "/join #ubuntu-br" sem as aspas. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, use #ubuntu-pt. Obrigada.15:24
mixtoque no soy portugues soy español15:24
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padhuHi Ubuntians, I need an laternative to Garmin mapsource & base camp. Please suggest me good one15:27
MonkeyDust!gps | padhu like this?15:28
ubottupadhu like this?: Street mapping and GPS navigation software available for Ubuntu includes Navit, MoNav (http://code.google.com/p/monav/), Gosmore (free vector maps from OSM), GpsDrive (GTK, raster maps, free), !GoogleEarth (Qt, proprietary vector maps, proprietary)15:28
Wiz_KeeDcan anyone please tell me how I can remove my personal bin folder from the beginning of path to the end of it?15:29
Wiz_KeeD/home/wiz/bin:/usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games <== i don't want that :)15:30
sl-prhi...15:30
karab44hello people15:31
karab44how to change this /media/albert/e65e072a-6eca-4d53-baa7-3921df220c4d/ into something more readable?15:31
karab44It is a Raid0 matrix15:31
karab44where the path is /dev/mapper/isw_cbhgecejcj_Volume0p115:32
Wiz_KeeDanyone?15:32
prophgreetings, I am a new ubuntu user and i am experiencing some problems with my wifi conection can anyone help me or tell me where i could ask for some help? Thanks a lot15:38
clue_hwhat happens15:39
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prophat first wifi kept on disconnecting but after searching i found this command "sudo dpkg -i bcmwl*.deb" that fixed the problem but i still think something is wrong15:41
otakWiz_KeeD: look in ~/.profile or ~/.bash_profile for the line PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH", then change it15:42
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Wiz_KeeDI just echoed $path15:42
Wiz_KeeDand redefined it without my dir15:42
john_doe_jrHow do you use halt?15:42
Wiz_KeeDhope that's good15:42
otakit's good til next login15:43
vemacsis anybody here familiar with LXC? the #lxcontainers channel seems a bit.. dead?15:45
Semen_Dickmanhow do i install ubuntu in my twblet nuggazz15:45
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larryapple3padhu: ?15:46
vemacsWell, I'll just go and ask15:48
vemacsHi, I've started up a container using LXC Web Panel and manually15:48
vemacsand am wanting it to bind to one of my assigned IPs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6117533/15:48
vemacshow would I do that? the bridge works from inside to out15:48
vemacsbut using one of those IPs just connects to the host box, when trying SSH15:48
vemacshow would I assign one of those IPs to the container, and access the container thru SSH?15:48
vemacshere's the config for that container: http://i.imgur.com/cGLjMze.png15:49
MonkeyDust!enter | vemacs15:49
ubottuvemacs: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!15:49
vemacsCould try. Was copying line-by line.15:49
Semen_Dickmananabdy plz ansr me wnt 2 instl ubntu in his tblt15:49
Semen_Dickmanyoooo15:49
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bwayneWiz_KeeD: you can edit that setting in you ~/.bashrc. Then 'source ~/.bashrc'.  Does that help?15:50
Wiz_KeeDi looked in there nothing looks like something useful for the path bwayne15:50
Wiz_KeeDI saw the post myself15:50
bwayneWiz_KeeD: you mean the PATH variable doesn't appear in .bashrc?15:51
Semen_Dickmanwhere to get crack for ubuntu..i want to unlock the professional version settings15:51
vemacsobvious troll?15:51
MonkeyDustSemen_Dickman  ubuntu is open source, no need to "crack"15:51
Semen_Dickmanlike i want to buy games.for.free in the software center15:52
kalekip1Semen_Dickman: Get lost.15:52
PriceySemen_Dickman: If you're going to ask questions, please ask serious questions.15:52
Semen_Dickmanits not free worldnofngoo is paid.game.15:52
MonkeyDustSemen_Dickman  how legal is that?15:52
kalekip1Semen_Dickman: This is a great community, but if you want to talk about piracy, I suggest you to leave this channel.15:53
Semen_Dickmanme.no prate me wnt gms.fr fre15:53
HackerIIget a job15:54
MonkeyDustSemen_Dickman  wrong channel15:54
Priceyanyway15:54
Semen_Dickmanwht noo wrld.of.go is.hig prc15:54
kalekip1!ot15:55
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!15:55
kalekip1!guidelines | Semen_Dickman15:56
ubottuSemen_Dickman: The guidelines for using the Ubuntu channels can be found here: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines15:56
MonkeyDustkalekip1  don't give the kid any more attention15:56
bwayne!path > bwayne15:56
ubottubwayne, please see my private message15:56
Priceybwayne: /msg ubottu !path15:57
prophHello guyz, i am a new ubuntu user. My laptop has wifi card 802.11b/g/n and i was experiencing problems connecting to the Internet. I found out that kernel bcmwl source 5.2 fixes it, but still have some problems cause every time i restart i have to run the same command again can someone help. Thanks15:58
bwaynethx Pricey15:59
benccin the command line, can I wrap a call with a timeout?15:59
sam113101proph: what's that command?15:59
bwayneWiz_KeeD: /usr/games is coming from PATH being set in /etc/profile.15:59
wilee-nilee!broadcom | proph15:59
ubottuproph: Help with Broadcom bcm43xx can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/bcm43xx15:59
prophsudo dpkg -i bcmwl*.deb15:59
bwayneWiz_KeeD: I'm sorry. that's /etc/environment16:00
bwayneWiz_KeeD: You may want to look here for more info. --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables#File-location_related_variables16:01
Akiva-MobileI am about to do an upgrade to ubuntu 64, and wondering if I should bother grabbing the alpha?16:04
Akiva-Mobiledoesnt seem like to much has changed16:04
MonkeyDustAkiva-Mobile  better ask in #ubuntu+1, i guess16:05
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ironfoot495Hello everyone I have a problem with permissions on my machine when attempting to use fopen and the use of document root.16:10
ironfoot495I can submit a copy of the project that I'mn working on if that will help you.16:11
padhugarmin mapsource/ base camp alternative on ubuntu 12.04 is needed16:11
Semen_DickmanCan any one hwlp me wi5h installation of ubuntu16:12
ironfoot495I've worked on this for a couple of day with no head way so I can really really use some help here!!!16:12
Pricey!install | Semen_Dickman16:12
ubottuSemen_Dickman: Ubuntu can be installed in lots of ways. Please see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation for documentation. Problems during install? See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonProblemsInstall - See also !automate16:12
ironfoot495permissions are really screwed up16:12
Semen_DickmanUbuntu fracked my cpu please help me to recover my files nugzzz16:13
bwaynegood job Pricey16:14
Nach0zlol.16:14
wilee-nileeThat user should have been banned jut for the nick anyway16:14
wilee-nileejust16:14
Kartagisin google-chrome, youtube videos are twice as fast. why can this happen?16:15
wilee-nileeironfoot495, what does this command say. cat /etc/issue  cat /etc/*release*16:18
wilee-nileeironfoot495, pastebin the putput16:18
wilee-nileeoutput*16:18
ironfoot495wilee-nilee: I tried pasting the projedct but16:19
ironfoot495it wont let me add the php16:19
ironfoot495I'll try again!16:20
TikkaMassalaWhat dist is the superior between Mageia 3 and openSUSE 12.3, the KDE version? What i'm looking for is stability and security (want to encrypt my system).16:20
wilee-nileeironfoot495, pastebin what that command outputs16:20
unknown101Where can i talk about security stuff?16:20
kalekip1unknown is it for Linux?16:20
kalekip1Then #ubuntu-offtopic16:20
PiciTikkaMassala: Seeing that this channel is for Ubuntu only, try ##linux16:20
Piciunknown101: There is also ##security16:21
TikkaMassalaPici: thanks16:21
MonkeyDustTikkaMassala  ask in ##linux, please, this is ubuntu only16:21
unknown101i'll probably go to security16:21
ironfoot495ok wilee-nilee here is the paste => http://paste.ubuntu.com/6120067/16:23
wilee-nileeironfoot495, what does this show cat /etc/issue16:24
ironfoot495it shows that fopen causes permiision denied!!!16:25
kalekip1ironfoot495: Tip: make this a constant: $DOCUMENT_ROOT = $_SERVER["//var/www/php_script/vieworders/"];16:25
kalekip1better practise16:25
wilee-nileeironfoot495, Is this even ubuntu, you paste shows a 3rd party project at best.16:25
wilee-nileeyour*16:25
kalekip1True16:25
oaulakhhello16:27
wilee-nileeironfoot495, fopen is not in the ubuntu repos16:27
wilee-nilee!info ironfoot49516:27
ubottuPackage ironfoot495 does not exist in raring16:27
ironfoot495listen I did try using a copy of someone else but I sstill get the same result .I hope y\this doen't presnt a tremendous problem. If so I apoligise for for that!!!!!16:27
wilee-nilee!info fopen16:27
ubottuPackage fopen does not exist in raring16:27
wilee-nilee!find fopen16:27
ubottuFile fopen found in acl2-books, acl2-books-certs, acl2-books-source, allegro4-doc, allegro5-doc, alliance, apcalc-common, autoconf-archive, c-cpp-reference, db5.1-doc (and 44 others) http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=fopen&mode=&suite=raring&arch=any16:27
kalekip1ironfoot495: If you want help with PHP, send me a PM16:28
ShapeShifter499hi16:29
ShapeShifter499is there away to have the audio output switched to my bluetooth headset when I connect them?16:29
ironfoot495al right I really apreciate that kalekip116:29
b4dave_4Hello chat room. Is anyone using the Ubuntu-one storage and the web client to listen to music?16:29
ShapeShifter499right now when I connect the audio does get switched but sound controls are non functional till I click my device in "sound settings"  Until I do so music blasts at full blast through the headset16:30
wilee-nileeb4dave_4, State the issues for help.16:30
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ironfoot495kalekip1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6120067/16:31
kalekip1ironfoot495: Talk to me in private?16:34
b4dave_4wilee-nilee: Everything about it is slow. I have problem with sync all my music and photos. I am paying for the service and am wondering if its worth it and if anyone is having the same problems.16:36
wilee-nileeb4dave_4, this channel is support not polling.16:36
b4dave_4wilee-nilee: okay thank you.16:37
wilee-nileeb4dave_4, If you tell the channel in detail the problems you may get help, is my pointy is all. ;)16:37
wilee-nileepoint*16:37
irreverantI know i can download older lts versions of ubuntu; for example 8.04 but does ubuntu also host the dell mini 9 version?16:38
ironfoot495oh yes I'm here I was on another page sorry~ What you got???16:40
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wilee-nileeirreverant, 8.04 is end of life whats the goal here?16:42
GeorgeJHello folks!16:43
irreverantwilee-nilee: yes i Know; I'm just looking for the original image / support on my dell mini 916:43
wilee-nileeirreverant, that would be XP.16:44
GeorgeJI have a luks encrypted drive that shows up in nautilus. Is there any way I can set the mount options for the underlying fs?16:44
wilee-nileeirreverant, There are supported OS's will run on that unit, if you want actual support.16:45
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Scott_Sirreverant: What he's saying is that it's recommended to run a newer, supported OS such as Ubuntu 12.04.2 or 13.04. Ubuntu did not host the version that shipped with that specific notebook.16:46
irreverantwilee-nilee: no that means mine originally came with Ubuntu Jaunty16:46
mfilipeI changed the mozilla-javaplugin.so alternative to /opt/jre1.7.0_40/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so but Firefox always use /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle/jre/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so16:47
OerHeksirreverant, the torrent of 8.04 is still working, not sure you can get your notebook running without updates16:47
mfilipewhat is wrong?16:47
wilee-nileeirreverant, Ah I see that now, unfortunately it would not be supported here with jaunty, maybe dell has a link to that, not sure why you would want it honestly.16:47
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sulo__HI guys good evening or afternoon :)16:49
sulo__!channels16:50
ubottuA list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist and !alis - See also !Guidelines16:50
MonkeyDustsulo__  what are you looking for?16:50
sulo__nothing just saying good afternoon :D16:50
irreverantI would prefer a newer version but it doesn't seem to support all the functionality of the dell mini 916:50
mmazingI've got a cluster of instances on AWS that keep getting spikes in NetworkOut, running 10.04 LTS. I don't get much information from netstat -ntap, etc, when it's happening, what else could I look at to determine what the heck is going on?16:51
sulo__I was thinking about asking why I cant install Wine 1.6 but finaly I figure it out why It is not working :)16:52
wolffhi guys, I have installed the latest firefox manually, extracted it to /opt/firefox , problem is that my adobe flash wont work now, I have copied the flash plugin to my ~/.mozilla/plugins directory but it wont work ?   any ideas?16:52
hays_is there a way to make the trackpad on my netbook "backward" like the macs do?16:53
hays_just trying to reduce cognitive dissonance16:53
sulo__wolff, you are saying It wont work but you are not saying that it isnt working,why? :)16:53
sulo__wolff, anyway I cant help ya I am Ubuntu newbie I am just trying to post here smart comments :)16:54
wolffhehe @ sulo__16:54
mmazinghays_: try http://www.maketecheasier.com/reverse-mouse-scrolling-direction-in-ubuntu/2011/09/1616:54
hays_I want to make two-finger scrolling on the trackpad reversed.16:54
irreverantlooks like 11.04 will work16:55
wilee-nileeirreverant, For the graphics which seem to be a problem. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=Intel+GMA+950+16:55
wilee-nileeirreverant, 11.04 is eol as well is all.16:55
wilee-nileewolff, The latest releases of FF are in the ubuntu repos.16:57
Scott_Ssudo apt-get install firefox flashplugin-installer16:57
zv3rhello guys how are ya ?16:57
mooncakemy mood is good as a blue moon16:57
Scott_S@wolff Please try the command I listed above.16:58
sulo__wolff, my only idea is to install the whole system again :D :D :D16:58
zv3rhahah nicee16:58
zv3rahahh16:58
irreverantOMFG, I'm SOL on XP; so EOL on 11.04 is better than a FUBAR'd Win installation.16:58
cariveriHey wise guys. can anyone guide me through a little on a partitioning issue?16:58
hays_mmazing, thanks.  other than gksu that worked... i think.. need to log out and back in.16:58
Scott_Scariveri, simply ask your question and someone will get to you.16:58
Scott_S!ask16:58
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience16:58
mmazinghays_: sure thing16:58
cariveriScott_S: ok. here it comes.16:58
wilee-nilee!ot | zv3r mooncake16:59
ubottuzv3r mooncake: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!16:59
sulo__Scott_S, is the biggest helper out there :), I am glad you are here16:59
Scott_Ssulo__, I try, thank you. :)16:59
zv3r@Scott_S what is your problem16:59
zv3rubable to watch clips in firefox ?17:00
Scott_Szv3r, I was helping another person, I am not in need of help. Thank you.17:00
cariveriHow do copy/move the home partition to another larger one (called /home2 sofar) and reintegrate it?17:00
zv3rohh okey17:00
Scott_Scariveri, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving17:01
mmazinghays_: did it work?17:01
wolffScott thanks , but that command installs firefox 23 , not 24 , i have done an apt-get update, still only version 2317:01
cariveriScott_S: cool. thanks.17:01
hays_mmazing, yep!  that's awesome and an easy fix17:01
wolffi have firefox version 24 in my /opt17:01
mmazinghays_: huzzah!17:01
sulo__my nick will be boneslash so sulo__ = boneslash, ok? :D17:01
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hays_mmazing, this little $200 laptop is turning out to be kinda cool17:01
mmazingi might try that out myself17:01
irreverantwhat 200 laptop?17:02
wilee-nileewolff, wait about 24 hrs or so and it will be in the repos.17:02
hays_irreverant, Asus 1505E i think its called17:02
hays_irreverant, comes with Ubuntu preloaded and I upped it to 13 with no problems17:02
Scott_Swolff, if you have already downloaded libflashplayer.so, move it to /usr/lib/firefox-addons/plugins17:02
wolffthanks Scott_S , will try that17:02
boneslashhope it helps17:03
hays_irreverant, it has a Celeron and 2 GB RAM.. little tiny thing.  10.1" monitor17:03
StritI run Ubuntu 13.04 with the build-in LibreOffice. When I edit documents in Libre Writer with lots of photos the Writer becomes very slow. Any idea why and how to fix it?17:03
GeorgeJI've got a problem, when nautilus mounts the underlying fs of a LUKS volume, it's mounted as root instead of being mounted as the active user. Is this a known bug?17:03
hays_my only complaint is that the keyboard is small and it is a bit hard to get used to.17:04
Scott_SStrit, this is due to either LibreOffice not support GPU-accelerated rendering of images, or your system is unable to keep up with the number of images in the document.17:04
hays_If only there was three-finger swiping away the windows.  lol.  asking for too much i think17:05
anshinhelp17:05
Scott_S!ask > anshin17:05
StritScott_S, hm. I read somewhere that increasing the memory allowed in Libre would make it quicker, but it didn't. My system is an i7 3,4 Ghz with 16 GB ram and gtx 760 graphics. Surely my system should be able to keep up. :P17:06
anshinwrong command17:06
anshinsent "help" to all channels17:06
ubottuanshin, please see my private message17:06
boneslashhays, you must be glad man I have also Ubuntu 13 and my netbook has only 1 GB RAM :)17:06
wolffScott_S, no success17:06
anshinubottu: I wasn't asking a question. I just assumed that typing "/amsg help" would tell me what "amsg" does.17:07
ubottuanshin: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)17:07
anshinawe17:07
Scott_Swolff, Do you have that same folder in the location that you installed Firefox 24? It's possible it has a custom directly since it wasn't installed with aptitude.17:07
cariveriScott_S: the steps dont make sens to me. why not 1. partition /home2 , 2. rsynch /home -> /home2, 3. edit fstab to /home2, 4. edit /home2 partion mark to /home  ?17:07
hays_hmm is there a way to tie a three finger gesture to the workspace switcher?17:08
Scott_Scariveri, I'm sorry, but I don't have the answer to that question. I am only providing you with the steps to do it, which is the recommended method by Canonical.17:08
ekoolQuestion: I'm working with kickstart and preseed and I'm trying to find a way to force the installer to ask for manual network configuration. Is this possible (ie, the machine boots via DHCP but I want to over-ride this with different static IP's during install)17:10
wolffScott_S, my firefox 24 is in /opt/firefox      it is not under /usr17:11
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MonkeyDustekool  if you don't get an answer here, try #ubuntu-server or ##networking17:14
Apachezhttp://i.imgur.com/hChvVyu.png17:14
caulagianybody here running FreeBSD and Ubuntu on the same machine?17:17
chaotic_goodwhen expanding a lvm, do I expand the pv b4 extending the fs?17:17
chaotic_goodI do right?17:17
chaotic_goodpadd pv, add  pv to vf, then expand lv, then resize2fs17:17
irreverantdid we get a split on the network?17:18
Picichaotic_good: You pretty much have to, where would the FS expand to otherwise?17:19
abradleyafter mysql-server install, I'm attemping to connect to with HeidiSQL and get: http://i.imgur.com/AlZbSfo.png Beyond "sudo apt-get install mysql-server" and setting the root password what must be done to get mysql-server up ?17:19
chaotic_goodcan ext4 support shrinking a lv?17:19
GeorgeJI've got a problem, when nautilus mounts the underlying fs of a LUKS volume, it's mounted as root instead of being mounted as the active user. Is this a known bug?17:21
ekoolabradley: The default config likely doesn't allow connections to mysql from the network, just localhost.17:22
abradleyoh. I'll look into that. thanks a lot ekool17:22
ekoolabradley: You'll likely need to modify my.cnf and tell it to bind to the network interface, not just loopback... then you can also create a user that authenticates from the network and has the permissions you need.17:22
ekoolabradley: however, most mysql navigators are smart in that you can tell them to SSH into localhost, then connect "locally" through that tunnel so you can avoid all that. So, check the network type area there and see if SSH is an option.17:23
last1how can I upgrade my version of 'ld' ?17:25
abradleyekool, smart, thanks a lot for the great info17:25
JustMozzyhi guys.. how are you doing? I have jut bought a Genuis EasyPen 340 tablet. the sytem recognizes it but the buttons don't work. actually only control over the mouse cursor is functioning. can anyone help out to get it running?17:28
jibreelhi ubuntuers17:30
kalekip1Hi, jibreel.17:31
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jibreeldoes anyone have this weird bug, that, when you go fullscreen on an application. and you hit <alt-tab> and can't see the app switcher ?17:32
jibreelit works but it's hidden from view17:32
StritMine shows perfectlu jibreel17:33
jibreelwhat version are you on ?17:33
jibreeli'am on 13.0417:33
Strit13.04 x64.17:33
jibreelhmm17:33
jibreelanything i can do about it ?17:33
StritNo idea. :)17:35
jibreelit annoying because i would like to have some application in fullscreen17:36
jibreellike sublime text17:36
jibreeland so17:36
jibreelhmm17:36
FloodBot1jibreel: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.17:36
JustMozzyHi guys. Can anyone help me setup my graphic pen tablet?17:39
abradleyI'm still getting a "is not allowed to connect" error: http://i.imgur.com/3Y9wZ46.png17:39
littlegirlabradley: Did you try retyping your username and password?17:42
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ekoolabradley: make sure you can connect from command line using that same username and password with mysql -u USERNAME -p17:43
ekoolthen it will prompt for password17:43
invitadoHello, Do anyone know how to fix a bug in Ubuntu 13 about hotplugging?17:43
BluesKajinvitado:  describe your issue /error17:44
hays_what is a better lightweight browser, firefox or chromium?17:45
SoundsFromSoundWhat do you mean "better"?17:45
invitadoWhen I plug a divice such as a pendrive it is not detected17:45
SoundsFromSoundsolely caring about performance and nothing else?17:45
hays_SoundsFromSound, quicker response, less churning on memory swapping...17:46
GeekDudeHi tkeranen17:46
BluesKajinvitado:  where are you looking ?17:46
GeekDudeHi surya17:46
SoundsFromSoundFor that alone, I would said not Firefox.17:46
hays_SoundsFromSound, Its made a difference for example to install an adblocker17:46
SoundsFromSoundsay*17:46
GeekDudeHi LongCatTH17:46
GeekDudeIf I open an SSH client into my ubuntu desktop (12.04LTS), and start a python script that hangs indefinitely unless the terminal is closed, will closing the SSH connection kill the script?17:46
GeekDudeHi Dave17:47
bazhangGeekDude, please stop that17:47
invitadoit is only launched when I write in the Terminal lsusb -v17:47
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GeekDudebazhang: okay. Do you know anything about ssh, or enough to answer my question?17:47
BluesKajinvitado:  check your file manager 'places'17:47
SoundsFromSoundFirefox in my experience uses more memory however there are other pros as to why I choose it. But for only perfomance, I'd say Chrome-family stuff is 'faster'.17:47
SoundsFromSoundBut I assure you many people will argue both sides :) Specs, etc.17:48
hays_SoundsFromSound, ill try both if there is no clear winner17:49
SoundsFromSoundYou should notice a difference for sure though, as far as memory usage and whatnot. Yup.17:49
invitadoIt is not there17:49
SoundsFromSoundHey, hays, how do you reply like you are, to a certain user?17:49
SoundsFromSoundI haven't used IRC in years, I forget :(17:49
SoundsFromSoundI'm in ChatZilla17:49
wilee-nilee!tab17:49
ubottuYou can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line.17:49
SoundsFromSoundOh, I need a colon after the name?17:50
SoundsFromSoundI knew the auto complete part :)17:50
GeekDudeno, and it can be anywhere in th message, SoundsFromSound17:50
SoundsFromSoundoh17:50
SoundsFromSoundGeekDude testing?17:51
SoundsFromSoundsee?17:51
SoundsFromSoundhmm17:51
SoundsFromSoundGeekDude: Test?17:51
SoundsFromSound:)17:51
FloodBot1SoundsFromSound: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.17:51
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Guest48599GeekDude: yo17:51
BluesKaj!pm | invitado17:52
ubottuinvitado: Please ask your questions in the channel so that other people can help you, benefit from your questions and answers, and ensure that you're not getting bad advice. Please note that some people find it rude to be sent a PM without being asked for permission to do so first.17:52
PiciGeekDude: yes, when you disconnect a HUP signal will be sent and will close your running application. Run your command under screen, or using nohup to prevent this.17:52
elegant_istfukuılhş17:52
invitadoSorry17:53
GeekDudePici: do either of those come packaged with ubuntu?17:53
invitadowhen I boot with the device plugged in, it works just fine17:53
surya??17:53
invitadothe problem is hotplugging17:53
PiciGeekDude: nohup does, and I'm pretty sure that screen does.17:53
GeekDudePici: would screen let me use an alread-existing terminal?17:54
BluesKajinvitado:  no need to be sorry , it's better to discuss problems in the chat , so others can help too17:54
invitadounderstood17:54
PiciGeekDude: Do you expect to need to reconnect to the terminal later to look at output? then screen is for you. Otherwise nohup is probably better.17:54
chaotic_goodok in vmware, I added a drive to my ubuntu vm, do I have to reboot?17:55
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GeekDudePici: I leave an IRC bot & webserver on all day, and want to be able to access them remotely to check output and restart them if needed17:55
chaotic_goodto see the drive or can I do something to rescan live?17:55
chaotic_good(amazon doesit!)17:55
PiciGeekDude: Then screen fits your usecase. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Screen for more info.17:56
GeekDudePici: ubuntu does not come packaged with screen, but I'll look into it. Thanks17:56
SoundsFromSoundchaotic_good: Are you using Workstation?17:56
supertantanI'm having problems with flashpalyer and Lightspark, I can not upload them to the sites that use them in any way, how can I solve this?17:56
supertantanOpss...player17:56
cariveriwhat do you call the low graphics type interface in some installations processes?17:58
wilee-nileesupertantan, you would one or the other running on your computer, not both17:58
supertantanNot both...17:59
supertantanSpeaking exactly the words I want the flashplayer it was to the hells, since I could access websites with Lightspark17:59
chaotic_goodvsphere 418:00
wilee-nileelol if I could only understand yours. ;)18:00
supertantanThe message: "Could not load shockwave" appears on both when installed separately.18:01
supertantanI feel I miss the old Ubuntu 8.4 ...18:02
aurorasunhi18:03
BluesKajinvitado:  http://asleepfromday.wordpress.com/2008/09/27/udev-and-allow-hotplug-on-ubuntu-and-debian/18:03
aurorasunAnyone from India here/18:03
aurorasunor wrong channel18:03
aurorasun?18:03
aurorasunmaybe Indian?18:03
BluesKaj!in18:03
ubottu#ubuntu-in is the channel for Ubuntu in India18:03
BluesKajaurorasun:  ^18:03
aurorasunhm18:04
supertantanjai ho.18:04
supertantanLol18:04
aurorasunsupertantan:  your Indian?18:04
wilee-nileeaurorasun, This is support, not find your ethnic group.18:04
supertantanNo, I'm smiling not to cry my shockwave that is so useful when a leaky bucket.18:05
MonkeyDustsupertantan  did you have an ubuntu support question?18:05
supertantanNeed to do my work shockwave.18:06
supertantanCould you help me?18:06
bazhang!shockwave | supertantan18:06
ubottusupertantan: shockwave is currently only available for Windows. To run it under !Wine, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Shockwave18:06
Picisupertantan: shockwave has never been supported on Linux.18:06
supertantanUnderstand and how do I access flash sites? Use Lightspark? I do not know to install, need help.18:08
wilee-nileesupertantan, You fully against using adobe?18:08
TheLordOfTimesupertantan: shockwave has always ever been for Windows, and is different than Flash.  Shockwave only works on Windows, maybe basic operations only under Wine, but you can't get Shockwave on Linux.18:08
TheLordOfTimesupertantan: as for Flash, there *is* an adobe flash plugin you can install but it's non-free, and AIUI Adobe might not support it for very much longer18:08
TheLordOfTime!flash | supertantan18:09
ubottusupertantan: To install Flash see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/Flash - See also  !Restricted and !Gnash18:09
supertantanHey, bad boy ... or cows fly I will install a cursed windows in my wine.18:09
Mega1an error encountered while prosessing openssh server and client18:09
Mega1how can i fix this18:10
supertantanAdobe flash plugin-nonfree? I will try.18:10
wilee-nileesupertantan, the ubuntu-restricted-extras will load flash and other codecs and ms fonts18:11
supertantanWell, know that I am ... Lubuntu user have a computer of the eighteenth century, lol. I have already installed the restricted extras Lubuntu.18:13
k1lMega1: can you nopaste the whole output and describe what you are doing/trying?18:13
wilee-nileesupertantan, did you have the partners repos and backports open?18:14
hays_mmazing, so the downside is that it flips left/right also18:15
hays_mmazing, or maybe it doesn't... at any rate it seems weird18:16
supertantanYes, when it started to go wrong things, and it was still morning I opened all repositories.18:16
invitadoI am not allow to write in this folder: /etc/udev/rules.d18:17
supertantanI had installed a chrome old, and it worked perfectly. But then came an insistent nasty message saying that my browser was old and needed ataulização and ready ... stopped.18:17
MonkeyDustinvitado  you need sudo for anything outside /homr18:17
MonkeyDustinvitado  I mean /home18:18
supertantanOops, update ...18:18
wilee-nileesupertantan, You then ran a update before installing? Are you sure what ever your accessing is a flash problem, rather than linux in general?18:18
mast3r210programm swf to avi?18:18
mmazinghays_: did you try switching the 6 and 7 as well?18:19
supertantanI have a ubuntu one Xubuntu and Lubuntu and I'm almost giving up because when the squeegee PuppyLinux not own webcam, but at least I watch tv ...18:20
supertantanIs geral..18:20
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supertantanPut aside this damn flash player, be able to install as Lightspark?18:21
tasslehoffAny way to use a custom command (shell script) to open a file?18:22
hays_mmazing, i dont know what the numbers mean18:22
BluesKajmast3r210:  ffmpeg or avconv18:22
bazhang!info lightspark | supertantan18:22
ubottusupertantan: lightspark (source: lightspark): High-performance SWF player (experimental). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.1-1 (raring), package size 98 kB, installed size 782 kB18:23
Dragin1can someone please kill Dragin? I am ghosting18:23
bazhangDragin1, #freenode for help with that18:23
Dragin1thanks18:23
mmazinghays_: read that article again, it says you can switch the 6 and the 7 in the configuration file that you created to reverse the horizontal direction as well18:23
mmazinggotta go good luck18:24
BluesKajDragin1:18:24
BluesKajif you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit18:24
BluesKajby typing: /msg nickserv GHOST «username» «password»18:24
wilee-nileeDragin1, run here /msg nickserv help release18:24
supertantanWell, I'm going to try installing Lightspark ... thank you all.18:25
wilee-nileeit helps to have several nicks on your account18:25
GeekDudePici: I would need to start the webserver in a screen instance, right? I can't just connect to an already-open terminal?18:25
PiciGeekDude: What webserver/18:26
GeekDudePici: It's a python script using the CherryPy framework18:26
PiciGeekDude: You'd either need to figure out how to set it up as a daemon, or start it in a new instance.18:27
hays_mmazing, ahh i missed that and the man page isn't particularly clear18:27
supertantanI honestly do not know how to use this beautiful Xchat staff. My terminal is open. If this will help ...18:27
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GeekDudePici: Okay. I'll just always start it from SSH/Screen. I can SSH into a computer from itself, right?18:28
arthur_Olá!!!18:28
PiciGeekDude: er, sure.18:28
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supertantanHow about spending a few commands like remove the dependencies in order to replace the flash Lightspark?18:29
PiciGeekDude: or just start screen and then disconnect from it (ctrl-a d)18:29
supertantanOi, eu sou o dollinho18:29
supertantanhehehehe18:29
bazhang!ot | supertantan18:30
GeekDudePici: ah, open a terminal and start a screen instance, then disconnect18:30
ubottusupertantan: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!18:30
supertantanYes,But what about helping me with Lightspark, I do not understand .. you nicks green, red ... but no one gives me a command, action or something you can understand.18:31
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hays_is clang/llvm worth moving to yet?18:32
hays_im kind of fascinated18:32
Picisupertantan: I don't think that most of us have no idea what lightspark is.18:32
Picier, have any idea18:32
hays_looks like a cleanup of gcc's already pretty mature concept18:32
bazhangPici, an swf player in the repos18:32
Picibazhang: does it have a plugin and can it act as a viable alternative to flash?18:33
bazhangsupertantan, install it from the package manager18:33
supertantanOh, you know ... be at peace ...18:33
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MonkeyDust!info lightspark18:34
ubottulightspark (source: lightspark): High-performance SWF player (experimental). In component universe, is optional. Version 0.7.1-1 (raring), package size 98 kB, installed size 782 kB18:34
mazmaxhi18:35
GeekDudePici: how do I close a screen instance? I've opened 4 of them, and detached them18:36
gordonjcpGeekDude: reattach, and close the terminal18:36
invitadoRecently, I presented an issue to the community. It is about hotplugging usb devices. BluesKaj tried to help me but I could not implement the solution in the link he sent to me (It seems it is not applicable to UBUNTU 13, the files are named differently and its content is also different). Any other ideas?18:36
GeekDudegordonjcp: I can't close the terminal over SSH18:36
Jordan_Uhays_: Are you developing software or just using it? Most of the benefits of llvm/clang are for developers rather than end users (building the same software in Clang vs GCC won't gain you much). Also, you're probably already using some software which was built with Clang or uses LLVM.18:37
gordonjcpGeekDude: <ctrl-d>18:37
GeekDudegordonjcp: thank you18:38
kalekip1Does anybody knows how I can auto select a folder when I print screen?18:43
kalekip1Let's say, I press on Prt Sc. A window "Save Screenshot" appears. There is an option "Save in folder: " ...18:43
kalekip1How can I automatically select one?18:43
kostkonkalekip1, it always remembers the previously selected folder18:45
irreverantwhats up with all the mass quits?18:51
hays_not sure18:51
GeekDudegordonjcp: Using "^d" doesn't always work, especially if a python script is running. To kill the instance in the screen, "^a : quit" works while you're inside, and to kill the whole screen externally, "$ screen -S <name> -X quit" works too18:53
gordonjcpGeekDude: yes18:54
gordonjcpGeekDude: <ctrl-d> works from a shell prompt though, which is a good place to start18:54
GeekDudeI suppose. My python script doesn't work properly with keyboard interrupt, so I can't return to shell, and I have to end it/kill it18:55
steffen.18:56
kalekip1kostkon: Sorry for late reply, but it doesn't.18:58
kostkonkalekip1, hmm ok18:58
jparker_I just want you to know, we're counting on you18:58
jparker_:q18:58
steffenHey everybody!18:59
kalekip1Welcome, steffen.18:59
steffen_yellerkalekip1 Seen the new System76 machine19:00
Psil0Cybinhey guys stupid question how can i quickly and accurately check my download speeds for my internet? I used speedtest.net it says im getting a 25mbps internet conncetion but when i download files of HTTP servers i only get a max of 2-3 mbps? Is that because of the location of the HTTP Server?19:00
SoundsFromSoundThat new System76 looks sweet :)19:00
Psil0Cybinsorry way off topic :P19:01
SoundsFromSoundindeed it is19:01
SoundsFromSoundbut welcome :)19:01
kalekip1#ubuntu-offtopic19:01
Psil0Cybinthanks SoundsFromSound :) I Love this channel.19:01
Psil0Cybinthanks19:01
Psil0Cybinkalekip1,19:01
Psil0Cybindo you know what i make kale chips in the oven er day19:01
Psil0Cybinon the regular :o19:01
steffen_yellerTo bad they only are in US.. would love to buy one if I could from a EU country :)19:01
Psil0Cybinmmmmm kale.19:01
kalekip1!ot19:01
ubottu#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!19:01
Jonzx3exit19:04
AxlinPsil0Cybin: It could be because of a lot of factors, the specific server being one of them. Also remember that notation matters; speedtest.net probably gives you Mb/s, and when downloading you're usually getting MB/s (25Mb/s = 3.125 MB/s)19:05
Jonzx3exit19:05
AndroUserHi guys19:06
AndroUser!nomodeset19:06
ubottuA common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter19:06
funkyhey folks19:07
funkyI want to change owner to all dirs in the dir recursively19:07
gordonjcpfunky: okay19:07
gordonjcpfunky: be sure you're doing it to the right directory then19:07
funkyI used chown -R magentohappy:stfp *.* and got chown: invalid group: `magentohappy:stfp'19:07
funkyi do it in /www19:08
bshacklettDid you typo the group name by any chance?19:08
gordonjcpyup19:08
funkybshacklett:  could be19:08
gordonjcpthat group name looks like a typo19:08
funkyyep19:09
funkyu guys are geniuses :)19:09
gordonjcpnaw19:09
gordonjcpyou're just particularly dim :-p19:09
invitadoHello again, there was a electric energy drop in my home and my computer turned off. I was asking about an issue hotplugging usb devices. Blueskaj provided me a link wuth a solution but it was not useful for Ubuntu 13. Any other ideas?19:10
gordonjcpI bet no-one else here has *ever* done that ;-)19:10
funkylike ever :D19:10
gordonjcpfunky: I know I haven't, ever <ahem>19:10
UrielVigilantGood night, why the ubunto 12.10 usb pen drive persistent save and remember the change on picture of desktop but ubuntu 13.10 don after terminate and start again , but it remember all changes but that one dont .19:10
gordonjcpfunky: I've never done chown -R in the wrong directory either19:10
Picifunky: do you want to change the ownership on all files as well, or just directories?19:12
Picinevermind19:12
jhutchinsinvitado: Assume we don't know what BluesKaj may have told you, what is your actual question?  What do you need to do?19:13
funkypici yes both19:13
funkynow it works however user is able to escape from /www19:13
Picifunky: you probably don't want to use *.* though, not every file in Linux has a dot in it.19:14
funkypici so what do I use?19:14
Picifunky: just *19:14
funkyok19:14
Picifunky: Or specify the absolute path to prevent accidentally changing the wrong permissions19:15
funkybefore I used it it was locked into www, it still owned by root the www dir19:15
funkyhow is user able to escape?19:15
Picifunky: I don't know what you mean by escape.19:15
funkybefore I set sftp in such way it can only access directories it owns19:16
funkyand cant go out to system dir :)19:16
funkysftp user owns directories under /www19:16
kerloiHi all. I'm trying to install kubuntu on my new laptop. First I had some trouble with a black screen, the nomodeset option fixed it and now the live usb boot correctly. Now my problem is that if I hit the try kubuntu button, the graphic screen disapear, I see some lines in the shell and then it turn to a black screen once again ...19:17
kerloiI don't dare to install kubuntu before having seen it running fully on my laptop I'm too afraid of having a black screen as a result ...19:18
funkykerloi why19:19
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kerloiCan I install kubuntu even with that problem on the live usb ? Should it be ok after or is it too risky ?19:19
Guest69905ubottu is a bot!!!19:19
ubottuGuest69905: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)19:19
funkyjust play with it19:19
funkykerloi which problem?19:19
funkyi suggest to  buy extra hdd19:19
funkyand put linux on it :D19:19
Guest69905I DONT CARE YOU ARE A BOT ubottu !19:19
kerloifunky: when I hit the try kubuntu button it goes to a black screen once again ...19:20
funkykerloi probably  video driver19:20
funkyask some sexy girl in the mall to help u19:20
funky:P19:20
funkytell her u need it fixed for something :D19:20
BluesKajjhutchins:  "<invitado> When I plug a device such as a pendrive it is not detected"19:20
funkywho here asked blonde girl to fix their pc? :)19:20
wilee-nilee!ot | funky19:21
ubottufunky: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics (though our !guidelines apply there too). Thanks!19:21
kerloifunky: right I suppose it's a driver problem but could it be fixed after the install ?19:21
ppamula_hi19:22
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fancyfetusHey guys19:22
ppamula_hi19:22
fancyfetusI updated to ubuntu 12.10 from 12.0419:23
fancyfetusNow i boot to a black screen with a cursor.19:23
ppamula_i have a question regarding ubuntu 12.04.119:23
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ppamula_df -h shows nothing just nfs mount19:23
fancyfetusI tried nomodset, when i do that, it just freezes at the splash screen with the ubuntu logo19:23
samfromathello everyone! Is it possible to install same updates on multiple systems? i have linux mint install on 2 partitions on same machine. Is there a way to update both the system by downloading the updates just once?19:24
ppamula_touch: cannot touch `test': No space left on device19:24
wilee-nilee!mint | samfromat19:24
ubottusamfromat: Linux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org19:24
samfromatbut i guess its not a distro specific question.19:25
kerloiIf I have an nvidia graphic card, does installing the latest nvidia driver should fix the black screen problem ?19:26
Stritsamfromat, well, it might not be the same exact commands needed, and therefore what we say might screw up your system.19:26
fancyfetuswilee-nilee, im getting the black screen again. Except thia time i can access the grub.19:26
Picisamfromat: something like apt-cacher-ng might be able to help you, it would sit in between your linux computers and the apt repositories19:27
invitadothanks BluesKaj, this is the problem, another characteristic of the problem is that the device is detected and workable when I boot with it plugged in.19:27
samfromatStrit: Pici: so may be someone can tell me what to search for.19:28
invitadothe device can be launched using this code: lsusb -v19:28
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Stritsamfromat, as the bot says, try in #linuxmint-help19:29
invitadobut it does not pop up automatically.19:29
BluesKajinvitado:  do you have the device notifiers enabled , probly system settings , not sure on unity where that is exactly (since I'm on kde)19:29
citrusfizzi have a nic with a second virtual interface,  both IPs are in the same subnet,  the gateway seems to be configured only to use eth1 and not eth1:0  as i cannot ping the second ip from outside the network.  whats my plan of attack here?19:29
invitadolet me see19:30
fhedstromHello, I'm having trouble with getting my intel card to detect correct in 13.10. All i get is low graphics warning in bootup and gallium llvm in X. all works fine in 13.0419:30
invitadothey are on19:31
invitadoI mean enable19:32
wilee-nilee!13.10 | fhedstrom19:32
ubottufhedstrom: Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+119:32
fhedstromwilee-nilee, tnx!19:33
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wilee-nileeno problem19:34
vikkamathIs there any way to monitor manual application launches and also find the time of the launch?19:38
quantumpantshi guys19:40
fancyfetusI get the fatal error "no screens found" when i boot.19:42
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Maleneewhat is the best ubuntu site for RSS news   ?19:45
quantumpantscan anybody guide me towards getting myself set up on Cchat or empathy?19:45
PiciMalenee: planet.ubuntu.com is popular19:46
quantumpantsxchat even19:46
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RoryWhat do you want to know, quantumpants ? There's this community wiki page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XChatHowto19:49
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quantumpantsrory, thanks. ive just killed windows and set up 12.04. im really now to this and not sure where to stat at getting a loggin. im also wanting to volenteer19:51
vikkamathIs there any way to monitor manual application launches and also find the time of the launch?19:51
dv-vikkamath: with auditd19:52
quantumpantsrory, im looking to set up an irc accout19:52
Ben64quantumpants: open up the ubuntu software center and search for an irc client19:53
quantumpantsBen64, I have Xchat and Empathy ready to go.19:54
Roryquantumpants: You want to register an account on Freenode? /msg nickserv help19:57
guets987654322hi peoples19:58
citrusfizzin ubuntu i have set an ip on eth1:0  but i cannot ping it from another computer   it is in the same subnet as the ip configured on eth119:59
citrusfizzam i missing something?19:59
jibreelguets987654322: howdi20:00
quantumpantsRory, Its all confusing to me :) ive always used windows and utting used to this new OS and the Linux way. im not even sure how to use that info you just sent. sorry20:00
Ari-Yangquantumpants, that's like one of the standard IRC commands :| it has nothing to do with Windows or Linux...20:02
Ari-Yangjust type /msg nickserv help and hit enter20:02
Ari-Yang(in your IRC client)20:02
quantumpantsAri-Yang, Forgive me, I still studying up on linux etc.. ill get there in the end lol.  i suppose i just type that in20:04
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Roryquantumpants: IRC is the same on Linux as it is on Windows, what IRC client did you use on Windows?20:12
Roryquantumpants: It would help if you could explain exactly what you want to achieve... you're currently using IRC. So it's possible you don't need to do anything at all20:12
quantumpantsRory, your right, I wanted to register my Nick so i could look through the othe channels. i didnt use irc on windows, im sorry. i am a a novis at this.20:15
Roryquantumpants: Have you managed to register now? This isn't really the right channel to discuss general IRC and Freenode support, try asking in #freenode20:17
quantumpantsthanks rory. thanks guys.20:18
hasiokHello20:18
qlixedHi guys... i have some strange issue...20:26
qlixedwith unity..20:26
maveasSomebody with experience with preseeding? I've tried to include my preseed file on the ISO in /preseed and added the md5sum to md5sum.txt but the installer doesn't use it (yeah, edited the boot option to the preseed file path)20:26
qlixedWhen my session start i can logon without problems, but the unity bars never appears...20:27
maveasBtw, the iso is ubuntu server 13.04 x6420:27
qlixedsomeone have taht issue ever?20:27
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maveasEn med erfaring i preseed?20:30
honestlysomebody please tell me what's wrong with this ip route call20:31
honestlyI must be having a brain outage20:31
honestlyroot@bb10:~# ip route add 10.9.8.0/24 via 131.159.74.53 dev eth020:31
honestlyRTNETLINK answers: No such process20:31
honestlyeth0 exists20:31
honestlyand it's up20:31
honestly"ip route" gives me the routes20:31
Pici!enter20:31
honestlysorry.20:31
ubottuPlease try to keep your questions/responses on one line. Don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!20:32
qlixedHave a "misterious" issue with unity, session start, but no bars at all. Someone can gimme a hand with it?20:33
bucketm0usehttp://superuser.com/questions/644444/one-of-two-raid-1s-is-not-recognized-in-ubuntu-13-0420:34
mihokIs there a way to disable/delete/remove services from an ubuntu drive from editing files/configs alone?20:34
mihokI have an amazon ebs drive that I need to fix, I have an openvpn service running that messes up the internet connection on the server20:35
mihokso I've got it mounted as the secondary drive on a temporary instance20:35
tjbiddleHey guys - General "what's a good practice" question for linux users: I was told it's bad to have a CLI app log to a file without the user knowing - But I suppress a full stacktrace unless `--debug` is passed, so sometimes random errors (Happens one time, not the next) are missed and I can't be given a bug report. What would be an ideal solution for this? Have a setting (Defaulted to true) to log 50 lines or so to a file that the user can change themselves?20:35
mihokbut not sure how to remove the service20:35
bucketm0useOne of two of my RAID 1's is not recognized in Ubuntu 13.04. Has anyone experienced this before?20:36
gordonjcptjbiddle: is this something you're writing?20:37
designbybeck_Helping someone with a new install. They didn't want windows 8 so we took it off, now he gets: The ‘grub-efi-amd64-signed’ package failed to install into /target/. Without the GRUB boot loader, the installed system will not boot.20:37
designbybeck_when trying to install20:37
tjbiddlegordonjcp: Internal application, yes.20:37
gordonjcptjbiddle: just log anyway, then20:37
gordonjcptjbiddle: at least if you're running a debug build or with debugging enabled20:37
Fyodorovnaglixed, fresh install, has it worked, have you checked additional drivers?20:38
Rorymihok: what is the output of "sudo service openvpn status"20:39
tjbiddlegordonjcp: But I like to follow best practices :-) Just wanted to get a general opinion. What would you expect that to be? But true, it's not a huge deal in my exact scenario.20:39
mihokRory, its unrecognized service because ive mounted the hard drive with the service issues to /mnt20:39
gordonjcptjbiddle: I don't want to pry into your business practices, but I'd say that anyone using an internal app has rather less expectation of privacy20:40
Rorymihok: Oh if it's an Amazon-specific thing I don't know. Sorry.20:40
Rory!RAID | bucketm0use have you read the information here on RAID?20:41
ubottubucketm0use have you read the information here on RAID?: Tips and tricks for RAID and LVM can be found on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SoftwareRAID and http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO - For software RAID, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto20:41
mihokIt's not amazon specific, I just need a way that I can remove a service without using commands or a gui, like can I delete some file or something?20:41
gordonjcptjbiddle: furthermore if they are using a development version of something it's not unreasonable to expect them to put up with more logging and user surveillance20:41
Rorymihok: "Remove" a service isn't a thing, could you re-phrase it? You want to uninstall openvpn? Or stop a service that's running?20:41
tjbiddlegordonjcp: Fair enough, thanks!20:41
gordonjcptjbiddle: you can tell the users that there's extensive logging going on20:41
gordonjcptjbiddle: keeps you right I suppose20:41
maveas? Regarding auto install of server: I'm trying to include a preseed.cfg on my ISO but the installer doesn't load the preseed file (the documentation says that including the preseed.cfg on the root of the ISO will auto load it. Any ideas?20:42
mihokRory, basically I guess uninstall openvpn on a harddrive thats been mounted, so not through apt-get20:42
gordonjcptjbiddle: if users *are* unhappy about the logging then you can give them some means to start either a debug-enabled or non-debug version20:44
qlixedquit20:44
gordonjcptjbiddle: and make it clear that if they run a non-debug version, they're a) not helping you get the app working properly and b) when they have problems they might not get answers20:44
mrrcpkill the pid and remove the openvpn20:45
mrrcpfolder20:45
Dr_Willismihok:  if its using upstart and its a upstart managed service. you just rename the servicename.conf file to be like servicvename.dontrun in /etc/init/20:45
Dr_Willismihok:  the 'upstart cookbook' gives details20:45
tjbiddlegordonjcp: I was going to have a configuration file that has something like `log_to_file=true/false`, defaulting to true - And will pass along an installation method noting that this can be changed at the users' whim. I'll keep the logging down to <200 lines or something, just so it's available if something craps out, they can send it to me.20:45
kamehahello20:46
mrrcphi20:46
tjbiddlegordonjcp: In this case in particular, they'd almost all be willing to help get things working properly - so I probably won't see much of a complaint. I guess if this were a public application, I could do the same thing - just default the logging to file to false. If they run into issues they could enable it and then next time the issue occurs pass along the information.20:46
gordonjcptjbiddle: yup20:46
kamehaI will have to come here often, now as I'm a new ubuntu user20:47
AcidRain2012why not idle here forever?20:47
kamehagood idea :)20:47
AcidRain2012;020:48
AcidRain2012;)*20:48
kamehanice to meet you20:48
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Quantumpantshi guys ang girls20:48
mrrcphowdy20:48
Quantumpantscan anybody advise me?20:49
kyle___Quantumpants: Don't ask to ask, ask your question.20:49
maveas? Experience with kickstart vs. preseed?20:50
ekoolmaveas: Use the right tool for the job depending on what job your trying to accomplish.20:50
QuantumpantsI want to help the community but i have no programming skills. what can i do?20:50
mrrcpQuantumpants: ?20:50
SoundsFromSoundYou can do plenty Quantumpants :)20:50
QuantumpantsSoundsFromSound ?20:51
mrrcpQuantumpants: LEARN and help.20:51
kalekip1!expert | Quantumpants20:51
ubottuQuantumpants: A high percentage of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? See also !details, !gq, and !poll.20:51
SoundsFromSoundYou can do a lot to help Ubuntu, you don't need to be a programmer. You could offer any type of support, share the distro, encourage free software,  spread the word, etc.20:52
maveasekool: Well, I've been trying to create a custom ISO with my own preseed.cfg file to install local servers in my VirtualBox environment but the ISO doesn't load the preseed.cfg despite all my efforts.20:52
ekoolmaveas: okay and what is the problem20:52
maveasekool: That the installer doesn't use my preseed file?20:52
ekoolmaveas: you can pass the preseed file multiple ways... i prefer to extract the iso, mount it via loop, then modify it then make the iso again...20:53
ekoolmaveas: this URL has a walk through of it: http://razvangavril.com/linux-administration/custom-ubuntu-server-iso/20:53
QuantumpantsSoundsFromSound thanks20:53
mydog2hey...20:53
maveasekool: I did that: Added preseed.cfg to the root, added md5sum to the md5sum file20:53
ciphersonHey people, how are we today? lots of issues?20:54
mydog2anyone here a guru at ssh - ssh using ssh pub/priv keys to connect to centos?20:54
maveasekool: I tried to specify the preseed file in the boot options.. nothing happens. I'll take a quick look at you link.20:54
ciphersonmydog what are you trying to do?20:54
ekoolmaveas: i've never just dumped the preeseed in the root, i prefer to pass it via the append option on the kernel boot parameter20:54
mydog2i've got a weird issue, where I can't seem to implement pub/private keys between a centos client connecting to a ubuntu vm... using ssh pub/private keys20:55
QuantumpantsOk, as a newbe wanting to know how to program how do I start?20:55
ciphersonmydog2, so your connectingfrom centOS to and ubuntu machine using ssh keys correct?20:55
kostkonQuantumpants, for ubuntu? start here:  http://developer.ubuntu.com/20:55
mydog2i've created the pub/priv keys.. added the files in the correct dirs...20:55
maveasekool: Should't be the same as specifying the file via the boot options?20:56
mydog2looked over various articles from people who've had issues..20:56
mydog2cipherson, - that's what i'm aiming for! i've done the same thing with centos to centos20:56
ciphersonmydog2 can you access the ubuntu machine from another system with the keys?20:56
ekoolmaveas: Well, the method your using isn't working, I've never tried that way. I've used this and it works. All I know /me shrugs....20:56
maveasekool: k, I'll give it a try. :)20:56
mydog2cipherson,  - haven't got a way to test that20:57
ciphersonhmm20:57
Quantumpantsthanks KostKon20:57
mydog2cipherson,  - i can ssh/passwd into the ub from the centos though..20:57
maveasmydog2: does the sshd accept keys? (/etc/ssh/sshd_config)20:57
ciphersonmydog2, that sounds like the ubuntu system is not setup correctly for ssh keys20:58
maveasmydog2: did you copy the key correctly? (try use ssh-copy-id)20:58
mydog2maveas,  - i assumed so. as a default.. but i didn't check.. what's the attribute for that?20:58
dankestI'm writing a bash script to run a ruby script inside of a screen.  I'm using this syntax, but if doesn't create a new screen session!  screen -d -m -S shard_11 "SHARD_ID=11 bundle exec ruby bin/pnapi_server.rb -svp 9008"20:58
ciphersonmydog2, ssh-copy-id <username>@<host>20:58
sobczyk_is it ok to use saucy kernel packages in raring?20:59
ciphersonsee here20:59
ciphersonhttps://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys20:59
dankestAny I doing anythin obviously wrong?20:59
bsdbanditany kernel hackers in this channel20:59
maveasmydog2: RSAAuthentication yes20:59
maveasPubkeyAuthentication yes20:59
bsdbandithacking on the ubuntu kernel20:59
bsdbandit?20:59
maveasmydog2: I assume you are using RSA..20:59
Quantumpantsthanks for the help guys20:59
bsdbanditnp20:59
bsdbandit0_020:59
ciphersondankest>, just a sec  im confirming21:00
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maveasmydog2: remember to reload the config (service ssh reload)21:00
dankestcipherson: thanks21:00
ciphersondankest, whats the full command you want to run?21:01
wyldedankest: bin/pnapi_server.rb ----> /bin/pnapi_server.rb ? Probably not starting since it can't find the ruby script21:01
dankestSHARD_ID=11 bundle exec ruby bin/pnapi_server.rb -svp 900821:01
Fyodorovnasobczyk_, You wont have support here if there is a problem technically is all.21:01
ciphersondankest and this command works correctly out of screen right?21:01
djddutyHello everyone!21:02
dankestcipherson: Tried changing path, no effect21:02
dankestand yeah, it works outside of screen21:02
djddutyGood, it's working, I am having an issue.21:02
dankestwait21:02
dankestyeah21:02
dankesthaha21:02
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dankestit works outside screen21:02
dankestif I just run the command, my script runs21:02
mydog2let me test more..21:03
ciphersondankest, do screen -ls and see if it created a screen at all21:03
ciphersonthere might be an error inside it21:03
ciphersonif there is one21:03
djddutyJust instaleld ubuntu 12.04, target system, so I need to get my program compiling on it, basically I installed libglfw2 and libglew1.6, but I cannot find the damned header files ANYWHERE, especially not in /usr/include/GL/ like they are supposed to be, so how do I check the install script of the packages to see where they put them?21:03
dankestcipherson: it did not21:03
ciphersonhmm21:03
djddutyI tried using find, but it cannot find them.21:03
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djddutywhat good is a dev package without headers?21:04
dankestcd ..21:04
maveasmydog2: Let me know how it goes :)21:04
dankestwhoops21:04
djddutynevermind21:04
djddutyignore me21:04
Jordan_Udjdduty: Neither of the two packages you mentioned are -dev packages.21:04
ciphersondankest, try without the -S shard_1121:04
djddutyI answered my own question.21:05
djddutyJordan_U: yes I know, I answered my own question as soon as I said that.21:05
djddutyJordan_U: sorry, I come from Arch, where everything is perfect(for me) :P21:05
ciphersondankest, try only with the -d -m flags21:05
Fyodorovna!cookie | djdduty21:05
ubottudjdduty: Wow! You're such a great helper, you deserve a cookie!21:05
djddutyno offense to you guys, I just never used ubuntu21:05
dankestcipherson: nope21:05
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dankestcipherson: still no new screen on -ls21:06
ciphersonsec21:06
Fyodorovnalol you helped yourself djdduty21:06
dankestcipherson: kk.  Thank you so mmuch for your help21:06
cuddylierAnyone know why a screen appears to stop allowing me type in it after having it active for a while? I always detach before closing Putty etc or going inactive.21:06
cuddylierI have to stop the process and start it again for me to be able to type in the screen, I can see the output from the process fine21:07
Fyodorovnacuddylier, might be timing out.21:07
cuddylierFyodorovna If I reopen SSH I still can't type21:07
ciphersonok dankest try this screen -dmS "command"21:07
cuddylierI can detach the screen while it's like this though21:08
Fyodorovnanot sure21:08
dankestcipherson: I get: Must run suid root for multiuser support.21:08
dankestI could run it sudo, but none of my ruby stuff is installed under that user.21:08
zicoj21:09
ciphersonok dankest try this screen -dmS shared "command"21:09
maveasekool: Doesn't work.. :/21:09
ciphersonshared would been the screen name to share21:09
dankestcipherson: no new screen instace.21:09
dankestCommand went though21:09
ciphersonhmmm try this21:09
ciphersonok dankest try this screen -dmS shared "echo test"21:10
ciphersonsimple test21:10
dankestcipherson: nothing21:10
jm__\join #debian21:10
dankestcommand ran, but nothing happened.  Back at $21:10
dankestjm__: other slash :)21:10
ciphersonweird with both S or no S i got screens21:11
dankestwtf21:11
ciphersonyour got screen installed right ? just making sure21:11
dankesthaha yeah21:11
dankestI'm running a bunch of them21:11
ciphersonhmmmm sec21:11
dankestI'm just trying to bash script this so I need them in a single line form21:11
dankestMaybe I need to update screen?21:12
dankestI'm running 2-may-0621:12
ciphersonyou can try that21:12
ciphersoni got the same one tho21:12
ciphersontry without the s21:12
ciphersonok dankest try this screen -dm "echo test"21:12
hayer_"netstat -i" output seems to be malformed, or is the flag something like "0 BMRU" and "0 LRU"?21:13
dankestcipherson: closer, now I have this21:13
dankest11849.echo test(09/17/2013 02:13:12 PM)(Detached)21:13
dankestwhen I resume it though, there's nothing going on inside21:13
ciphersonO.o that better sign21:13
dankest*attach it21:13
ciphersoni see whats happening 1 sec21:14
dankest<321:14
hayer_Because it is supposed to return "MTU Met", "RX-OK", "RX-ERR", "RX-DRP", "RX-OVR", "TX-OK", "TX-ERR", "TX-DRP", "TX-OVR", "Flg", right? Cause if I align them I get "0  BMRU" and "0  LRU" as "flg"21:14
ciphersonok dankest here the thing you must do, its a 2 part command21:15
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djddutyoh, nastly looking error, undefined reference to 'clock_gettime@GLIBC_2.17'21:16
djddutythis seems like it is going to be a pain.21:16
ciphersonjust testing it21:16
dankestkk21:16
dankestThanks again21:16
ANN-TechCoderGuys, can anyone help - I can't seem to get all my Windows to save position and size.21:16
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cariveriHey. after upgrade there are a lot of app icons missing. how can I get them back?21:19
ciphersondankest still here just trying on my side21:19
dankestkk21:19
itanshihello, is there a definitive guide for touch screen driver support for ubuntu?21:24
djddutyfixed it21:25
c0nfusedLubunterCan someone tell me, can i somewhere find the "clipboard file"? Actually, does it event exist as a file? Where is the data stored when you CTRL + C?21:26
ciphersondankest, screen -dmt "test" bash -c 'while true;do date; sleep 2; done'21:26
ciphersontest is the title21:26
ciphersonbash -c 'command'21:26
ciphersonthe command i have outputs the date every 2 secs to test21:27
bekkscipherson: In your RAM.21:28
dankestcipherson: thanks!@21:28
ciphersonworked?21:28
ciphersonlol21:28
ciphersonbekks? sup21:29
bekkscipherson: Ah, I mistabbed. :)21:29
ciphersonLol np :P21:29
bekksc0nfusedLubunter: In your RAM.21:29
mydog2ok.. oh ubuntu gods!!! i changed the strictmodes from yes to no.. and managed to get the keys working.. so, does this point to a perms issue on ubuntu within the ssh dir structure.. and if it does.. what/where can i get specific (like a 6th grader) docs on just what the prems/owner of the dirs/files should be..21:30
c0nfusedLubunterbekks: Is it somehow accessible as a "file" ?21:30
gordonjcpmydog2: what exactly are you trying to do?21:30
ciphersonmydog2, whats the error21:30
bekksc0nfusedLubunter: Nope. Because it is available as clipboard.21:31
mydog2hey cipherson  the previous err was Permission denied (publickey).21:31
ciphersondid the user that is accessing the login create the file?21:32
mydog2but once i changed the strictmodes per a couple of articles.. the keys worked21:32
augustrushMy computer lost power and now wont boot. Do i have to do a fresh install?21:32
mydog2cipherson,  was that for me.. and if it was.. no.. i created the keys on a separate machine..21:33
funkyhey folks,  I am using windows soft to upload stuff in bulk to ubuntu, I got sftp user setup and it works with winscp, when I click on test connection it says yes working, when it comes to upload it says permission denied21:33
funkywhat can it be?21:33
mydog2and i pushed the pub key over to the ubuntu, where i then sshed in as the "user" that i'll be sshing as21:33
ciphersonmydog2, run sudo chown username sshkeyfile21:33
ciphersongot to make sure the user logging in owns the file21:34
wyldefunky: the permissions on the target directory.21:34
dankestcipherson: ah, it works with date but not with my ruby script21:34
mydog2cipherson, on the ubuntu.. there's only the authorized_keys file.. is that the file you want the data on?21:34
dankestcipherson: maybe it's the env var I'm pasing in?21:34
mydog2there's no id_rsa.pub file21:34
ciphersondankest, the var your passing the command should be like this var="dlhfds"; command21:35
dankestscreen -dmt "test" bash "SHARD_ID=3; bundle exec ruby pnapi/bin/pnapi_server.rb -svp 9000"21:35
ciphersonmydog2, when do you see this error ? when your logging in?21:35
ciphersondankest, yea like that21:35
ciphersonyour missing-c21:36
BruceSI have disabled kernel 3.2.0-053 and reverted to 052 on my many 12.04.3 systems since the later one causes the system to hang from time to time.  Have I cut myself off from upgrades and security patches?21:36
ciphersonscreen -dmt "test" bash -c "SHARD_ID=3; bundle exec ruby pnapi/bin/pnapi_server.rb -svp 9000"21:36
cipherson-c = command21:36
adacsomeone familiar with samba server config? I have the folleing configuration: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6600861 Problems are: I cannot access as a guest. Second problme ist that the share is not visible on the network, only when i directly access the samba share via ip adress. Any ideas?21:36
mydog2cipherson,  - yeah... when i do the ssh into the box...21:36
dankestcipherson: nada :(((21:36
eugeniohello guys, I have problem with my ubuntu, after boot I have the message “The system is running in low-graphics mode”, what can I do?21:36
ciphersonmydog2, try and copy the key over again should be the public one21:37
ciphersondankest, whats in the window? and error?21:37
dankestDoesn't instantiate a screen21:37
dankestno error21:37
ciphersonok lets seen21:38
ciphersonsee*21:38
dankestscreen -dmt "test" bash -c "SHARD_ID=3; bundle exec ruby pnapi/bin/pnapi_server.rb -svp 9000"21:38
ciphersondankest, the issue is once the command stops the screen will terminate and we don't see an error, try this screen -dmt "test" bash -c "SHARD_ID=3; bundle exec ruby pnapi/bin/pnapi_server.rb -svp 9000 > /tmp/script_message.log"21:39
ciphersonmaybe this output file will shed some light21:39
mydog2cipherson, - yeah.. all i do.. is scp it.. and then clear out the auth keyfile.. and then cat the pub file to append it to the authkeyfile.21:39
ciphersonmydog2, try and follow this to test, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys21:40
ciphersonmake the keys on the server your logging into21:40
MelRayI'm installing the multimedia extras from command line and it is wanting to configure ttf-mscorefonts-installer and it is stuck. I have scrolled to the bottom of the text hit enter no joy..anyone know how to tell it to proceed?21:41
ciphersonjust to make sure the settings are right21:41
ciphersondankest, anything from that file?21:42
dankestyeah21:42
dankestbad path, it's working now!21:42
cipherson:P21:42
DangyDingoHey guys I'm looking for a terminal server that works more like windows terminal services than VNC is there any suggestions?21:42
funkywylde I checked permissions sftp user owns directory21:43
funkyand directories under it21:43
ciphersondankest, hope you learn something about screens / troubleshooting today :P21:43
dankestnope, still not working21:43
dankestfuck21:43
dankestlol21:43
cipherson@@@21:43
dankestI'm learning a lot!21:43
FloodBot1dankest: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.21:43
dankestBut still frustrated as hell21:43
Mega1an error encountered while prosessing openssh server and client21:43
Mega1how can i fix this21:43
ciphersondankest can you talk still?21:43
tehpwnzskype keeps crashing with this error: ALSA lin control.c:953:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) invalid CTL sysdefault21:44
tehpwnz*lib21:44
ciphersonFloodBot attacked you21:44
ciphersonanyone able to allow dankest to talk ?21:44
dankesthaha yeah21:44
dankestI can talk21:44
dankestRight?21:44
ciphersonoh ok21:44
wyldefunky: that's the only reason I can think of it wouldn't work.21:44
ciphersonyea21:44
tenchaha21:44
ciphersonok is there a new error?21:45
tencwhat's the error Mega1?21:45
dankestcipherson: nothing is being written to the log file21:45
ciphersonand the screen is blank?21:45
dankestwell21:45
dankestwhen I get an error from the ruby script because I'm in the wrong directory, I see in in the log.21:46
dankestWhen I run the command in the right directory, I get nothing and no new screen21:46
ciphersonhow are you running in the correct dir21:46
dankestI cd'd to it21:46
dankestI could include a cd in the bash command21:46
ciphersontry this21:47
cipherson screen -dmt "test" bash -c "cd path; SHARD_ID=3; bundle exec ruby pnapi/bin/pnapi_server.rb -svp 9000 > /tmp/script_message.log"21:47
ciphersonchange the path21:47
ciphersonso the command will change dir before running21:48
funkywho knows where I can check sftp errors log?21:48
ciphersonfunky, what server are you running for it21:48
dankestcipherson: no output, no screen21:48
mydog2cipherson,  - thanks guy... it was a permissions deal...21:50
funkycipherson:  cloud ubuntu21:50
ciphersondankest try this screen -dmt "test" bash -c "exec > /tmp/script_message.log 2>&1; cd path; SHARD_ID=3; bundle exec ruby pnapi/bin/pnapi_server.rb -svp 9000"21:50
ciphersonmydog2, np21:50
ciphersonthis will log more stuff to that file21:50
ciphersonfunky, sorry never used that :(21:51
funkyok21:51
dankestOkay, that worked and my script is running21:52
dankestCan I get rid of the log?21:52
ciphersonyup21:52
dankesthow?21:52
dankestwhat does exec > do?21:52
ciphersonexec > logfile 2>&1 will send all  standard output and standard error to a file21:53
L1mer1ckKali Linux Live USB Install using Win32 Disk Imager (windows) or dd command on linux box not working for me. I get black screen.21:53
ciphersonvery nice for error logging21:53
L1mer1ckAnyone else experience this?21:53
ciphersonyou can remove the command and try21:53
dankestcipherson: once I remove log, the screen command stops working21:53
k1l_!kali | L1mer1ck21:54
ubottuL1mer1ck: There are some Ubuntu derivatives that we cannot provide support for due to repository and software changes. Please consult their websites for more information. Examples: gNewSense (support in #gnewsense), Linux Mint (see !mint), kali-linux (#kali-linux), CrunchBang (support in #crunchbang), BackTrack (support in #backtrack-linux)21:54
ciphersonif not make the log file /dev/null and this will just send it to nothing21:54
L1mer1ckSolution?21:54
ciphersondankest make the file /dev/null21:54
k1l_L1mer1ck: its not supported in here since its not ubuntu21:54
L1mer1cksorry ty21:54
ciphersonthis is the black hole for information to go away21:54
dankestscreen still gone21:54
dankestwtf21:54
ciphersonhmm21:54
ciphersonwith the file it works?21:55
dankestNope, now it's not working at all21:55
dankestfuck21:55
ciphersonok ok i think i know21:55
dankestAnd the screen isn't called test, it's named after my session21:55
k1l_dankest: please dont swear in here. keep it family friendly21:55
ciphersondo this ps aux | grep ruby21:55
ciphersondo you see your command?21:55
dankestnope21:56
ciphersonwhats -svp 9000?21:56
ciphersonport ?21:56
dankestk1l_: for sure, sorry21:56
dankestyeah21:56
dankestport21:56
ciphersonok i bet21:56
ciphersonthat us calling this over and over is locking the port21:56
yektaCan someone help me understand why am I getting a gcc error `gcc: internal compiler error: Killed (program cc1)` while installing Ruby?  I'm on Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS, I've tried upgrading gcc from 4.6 to 4.7, still get the same error: https://gist.github.com/dwickwire/71846641944620f86f9b21:56
ciphersondoes it have to be thatone?21:57
ciphersonif so we can clear it21:57
dankestChanged it to something random, still no process for it21:57
io______any reason why a .sh won t launch the script but instead opens gedit? I ve chmod +x it21:57
cipherson!!! this is so random21:57
dankestI know21:57
dankestIt's driving me nuts21:57
ciphersongo back to what worked and try a new name21:57
ciphersonif you have a screen with the same name it will auto rename it21:58
ciphersoni think*21:58
dankestIs there another program I can use to make this easier?21:58
ciphersonwell21:58
dankestLike, I really dont care about screen21:59
dopstario______, are you clicking on the script?21:59
dankestI just need to be able to spin these processes up in a shell script21:59
BruceS.21:59
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io______dopstar: double click sure21:59
dankestand not have them die if I log out of the machine21:59
ciphersonscreen is the best bet for this21:59
dankestdamn21:59
ciphersontry putting the command in script21:59
dopstario______, check your nautilus settings21:59
ciphersonscript file21:59
ciphersonand call the script file22:00
dankestWhy would it work in a script but not at the command line?22:00
ciphersonhave no clue the issue is i don't know what your command does *22:00
dankestit runs a ruby script22:00
dankestsorry22:00
ciphersonyea never used ruby ::P22:00
dankesthas to be in the right dir22:00
io______dopstar: thank you22:00
dankestoh lol22:00
Guest51056jdfyg22:01
Guest51056whops22:01
dopstario______, go to Preferences, the go to the Behavior tab and then choose the "Run executable files when they are opened" option22:01
ciphersontry this real quick22:01
ezzatovichHi, can i ask support questions right here ?22:01
ciphersonjust runn screen, then the command22:01
ciphersonsee if it works right22:01
io______dopstar: tx, i am sure before 13.04 it was by default on ask what to do22:01
ciphersonto disconnect the screen do CTRL + A+ D22:02
dopstarezzatovich, yes you can22:02
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dopstario______, usually its ask what to do option22:02
efEsweg22:02
efEsweg22:02
efEsweg22:02
efEsweg22:02
efEsweg22:02
FloodBot1efE: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.22:02
ezzatovichI kinda made the worst command i have ever used, i wrote chmod -R 777 /*   . chmod -R 775 /* . chmod -R 750 /*22:02
dopstarefE, on you22:03
io______dopstar: yes, that s why i was puzzled about htis behavior i didn t even know about the settings in nautilus22:03
ciphersondankest, anything?22:03
zdotso, about unity22:03
efEsweg22:03
efEsweg22:03
kostkonefE, grow up22:03
kostkonbye..22:03
dopstario______, first thing i usually change on nautilus is to switch from double click to single click22:03
egEGswegbitches22:04
egEGswegbitches22:04
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FloodBot1egEG: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.22:04
zdotthere is that issue that when i run skype and i close it's window it stays in tray but dissapears from the launchbar so it's bit impossible to bring up it's main window without restarting it22:04
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ezzatovichnow i am not able to log in as a root and i can't mount any media device22:04
ezzatovichguys please help22:04
dankestcipherson: yeah, running the command in screen works fine22:04
zdoti'm keeping skype on my lanuch bar because of that22:04
zdotlaunchbar*22:05
kostkonzdot, yeah, one word: skype-wrapper22:05
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zdotezzatovich: sudo22:06
Ben64ezzatovich: not sure how to fix that. but you should really be careful what you do as root22:06
kostkonzdot, it has a ppa, if you search for it. highly recommended22:06
zdotkostkon: what has ppa? that skype-wrapper?22:06
dankestcould I just attach, run command, then detach screen in bash?22:06
ezzatovich@zdot actually i am not able to do any sudo commands anymore22:06
kostkonzdot, yes22:06
dankestcan I emulate contr0l-a c in bash?22:06
zdotezzatovich: live system + chroot22:06
ejvezzatovich: i recommend you reinstall asap22:06
zdottehn change the passwords22:07
ciphersondankest ummm22:07
ejvno, if he actually chmoded his entire environment, he's compromised the integrity of his system; time to re-install.22:07
zdotkostkon: yeah but i'm bit dissapointed that some aps don't integrate that well with unity ootb22:07
zdotsome big apps, like skype is22:07
ezzatovich@zdot so i don't have any other option than reinstall22:08
zdotezzatovich: yes you have22:08
Minelli_Good night, someone would know me know if it is possible to create an include file in fstab.22:08
Minelli_Example: (/ etc / fstab)22:08
Minelli_# include / path / file22:08
zdotezzatovich: you can run a live system, mount the hdd system and chroot into it22:08
kostkonzdot, it does with skype-wrapper22:08
zdottehn you can change your passwords22:08
zdotkostkon: yes i understand but it's not ootb then22:08
kostkonzdot, yeah, i know22:09
zdotbut then again, skype is written with qt22:09
ethan_hey guys, so I installed Lubuntu 13.04 on my sisters netbook at my house using a wi-fi connection and now the computer won't connect to a Wi-Fi network at her house.  Can anyone help me fix this?22:09
ethan_I assume it has something to do with administrative privileges, but I don't know the right terminal commands.22:10
ethan_can anyone help me connect to a wifi network on lubuntu?22:14
zdoti have no idea how lubuntu wifi applet looks like22:15
zdotethan_: i can guide you how to do that via the console if you would like to22:15
Minelli_ Good night, someone would know me know if it is possible to create an include file in fstab. Example: (/ etc / fstab) # include / path / file?22:16
dhyana3m22:16
zdotMinelli_: man fstab22:16
zdotbrb22:16
Minelli_zdot: I'll take a look, thanks.22:17
ciphersondankest i PM'ed u22:17
dankestcipherson22:17
dankestI think I got it working..22:17
dankestrestarted the machine and everything is perfect...22:17
dhyanai22:17
ciphersonreally?22:18
dankestyeah.22:19
ciphersondankest go to my pm i got nicer stuff22:19
dankestNo idea.22:19
dankestJust a sec, I have PMs disabled22:19
ciphersonoh well..22:19
ciphersonlol22:19
ethan_that sounds good zdot22:19
ethan_sorry i had to use the restroom22:19
dankestsend again?22:19
ethan_what's the console?22:19
zdotethan_: google for using wpa supplicant but i belive the same hting can be done with lubuntu grphicall tools22:20
Sirisian|Workwhat's the quick key in ubuntu to enter single user mode with that command line? (Not the terminal)22:21
ethan_thank you jimmy drangus22:21
kalekip1Sirisian|Work: What do you mean with single user mode?22:21
ward_i have a question about the lightdm on 13.04.  I was working to remove the dots from the lightdm screen but now the wallpaper is gone too.....How can I revers this?22:21
Sirisian|Workkalekip1, probably not the right terminology22:21
zdotSirisian|Work: what command line22:23
Sirisian|Workzdot, the one without x running22:24
zdotSirisian|Work: you can enter single user mode either by changing the runlevel or rebooting and entering single user mode but that's usually for maintenance22:24
Sirisian|Workreboot then doing what?22:24
zdotSirisian|Work: choose single user mode in the boot menu22:25
Sirisian|Workin grub?22:25
zdoti belive ubuntu contains that22:25
zdotyes.22:25
Rav3nnot sure if this would be better suited on ##linux or here, but, been recently having some issues with sudo. Atm, every time I use sudo, all terminals end up unresponsive, and new processes can't be started either, and shutdown breaks too. If I don't use sudo, everything works just fine. (13.04 x64 on mbp, worked fine on initial install, broke down after updating). Wondering if it's a known issue perhaps,22:26
Rav3nand/or how I can begin to diagnose the issue (no errors until it hangs, at which point I can't check the errors)22:26
Mega1can anyone help me with my error22:27
Mega1an error encountered while prosessing openssh server and client22:32
wyldeMega1: give us the exaCT ERROR PLEASE22:32
zdotRav3n: weird22:32
wyldewhoops caps22:32
Rav3noh, and if I d/c, I should be back w/in 5 minutes; having sporadic connection issues recently xD (unrelated to ubuntu)22:32
zdotRav3n: i'd fsck for start22:32
ciphersoni got this message "Your edit request has been forwarded to #ubuntu-ops.  Thank you for your attention to detail" from ubottu ....what is it?22:32
Mega1dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/openssh-server_1%3a5.9p1-5ubuntu1.1_i386.deb (--unpack):22:32
Rav3nzdot: any recommended flags that I should use for fsck?22:32
zdotRav3n: -v maybe22:32
zdotRav3n: also smartctl22:32
wyldeMega1: I suppose you could try sudo dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server although if it's having trouble unpacking it, the deb file may be corrupt.22:33
wilee-nileecipherson, Context?22:33
ciphersonnvm figured it out it was something i said in chat that triggered the chat bot22:34
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Mega1wylde that did not do anything22:36
augustrushMy computer lost power and now wont boot. Do i have to do a fresh install?22:36
wyldeMega1: same error?22:36
bekksaugustrush: Which error do you get, exactly?22:36
k1l_augustrush: depends on the error you get. maybe its a hardware failure22:36
kalekip1augustrush: Laptop?22:37
Rav3nzdot: weird, finished pretty quick, don't think it found any errors, but, works fine o_O ; thanks I guess lol22:37
Mega1that command did give an error but when i do apt-get upgrade it does22:37
zdotRav3n: humm22:37
zdotlol22:37
augustrushYes, laptop. It hangs on netBios name server22:38
wyldeMega1: you have to provide details. No one but you can see your screen.22:38
argoneusHello22:38
argoneusI think I may have done something wrong on my laptop when trying to dualboot windows/ubuntu22:38
argoneushttp://paste.ubuntu.com/6121524/22:38
argoneusAccording to align-check opt, partition 3 is not aligned22:39
Mega1sorry that command did not give an error but when i did the upgrade same error22:39
Ben64Mega1: pastebin the whole thing22:40
Mega1would i not get kicked for flooding22:41
Ben64!pastebin22:41
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ciphersonanyone know a channel for VM related stuff on ubuntu? if there is one22:43
compdoccipherson, there are a few VM packages22:44
zdot!channels22:44
ubottuA list of official Ubuntu IRC channels, as well as IRC clients for Ubuntu, can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat - For a general list of !freenode channels, see http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#channellist and !alis - See also !Guidelines22:44
compdocto which are you referring?22:44
ciphersoncompdoc, im looking for help running MacOS in virtual box on Ubuntu22:45
ndowens04I have a new toshiba laptop, quad-core 6gb ram. AMD Radeon, I think it is the 1100 series. I booted ubuntu and lubuntu from usb but they both give me issue with the display. I tried running X -configure and it gives a error like drivers not found for the amount of devices found22:45
kyle___cipherson: basilliskII not sure if I'm spelling it right.22:45
ezzatovich@zdot i am now on the chroot would you please tell me what kind of permissions  i need to do to get access back22:45
compdocI guess you could run the free Mac OS - version 6.0.322:45
compdocanything newer isnt exactly allowed by Apple22:45
zdotndowens04: you need to run fglrx-config or something like that22:45
kyle___cipherson: There are plenty of disk images for it you can find online, up to 7.5 I think.22:45
Mega1 ok error pasted http://paste.ubuntu.com/6121542/22:45
ciphersonkyle__, so far nothing will boot...22:46
kyle___compdoc: They've released through 7.x something on their website.  You can go higher without breaking lwas.22:46
zdotezzatovich: just make sure you're root and type passwd22:46
compdoccool22:46
ndowens04zdot thanks I will try that when I try again.22:46
kyle___cipherson: You've got a ROM, and a disk image, and it won't boot?22:46
zdotezzatovich: it wont ask you for the old password, it will just prompt you twice for a new one22:46
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ciphersonkyle__, yup lol22:47
zdotndowens04: but keep in mind you have to have catalyst installed to use that, it may be called aticonfig or fglrx-config or something similar, i can't recall now22:47
kyle___cipherson: Which image are you using?22:47
ciphersonleohazard's one22:48
augustrushBekks: it's a laptop that is hanging on netBios name server line during the boot process22:49
ni638629hi22:49
zdothey22:50
ni638629i change mymjob22:50
ni638629i will do music to relax22:50
ni638629http://youtu.be/j6XAJjtRljw22:50
ni638629i hope you,like it22:51
kyle___cipherson: google for Starterdisk.hfv   See if it works at all for you.22:51
ciphersonkyle__, will do thanks22:51
arayaqHi. I have a laptop with no screen, only a external monitor. I installed with the mini iso a Lubuntu session but nothing appears in the screen after the grub. I managed to log in via cli, so the system works. How can I force the system to use the VGA port on startup? Also I have access to recoveey22:55
arayaqRecovery*22:55
zdothehe i had to encrypt a home after i installed ubuntu yesterday22:55
zdotalways a new experience22:55
zdotarayaq: so which screen works afer you boot to cli22:56
wyldearayaq: have you tried the laptops harware buttons for the display? eg Fn+F522:57
KenjaminQuestion: If i install ubuntu to a second hard drive, does it alter the MBR or can i just select which hard drive to boot from in the bios HDD select menu when i want to use linux?22:58
KenjaminSo I dont have to muck about with partitions22:58
arayaqzdot, none, I logged into tty1 and touched a file, then checked via recovery. Where the external monitor works22:58
Kenjaminand not have windows get jealous and screw up my MBR22:58
arayaqwylde, yes. Does not work22:59
zdotarayaq: try that what wylde suggested, if it wont work, well, i guess it's time to get new hardware23:00
Mega1any help with my error http://paste.ubuntu.com/6121542/23:00
arayaqzdot. The hw is ok. Just doesnt use VGA for some reason23:01
k1l_Mega1: you have PPAs enabled?23:01
Mega1i dont know23:02
Kenjaminanyone have an answer to my question? :(23:03
ethan_Okay I'll try this again.  I installed Lubuntu 13.04 on my sisters netbook using a wifi connection, and now whenever she tries to hook it up to a different wifi, each time she puts the password in, it doesn't authenticate.  What is the solution to this?23:04
mshadleanyone here do any prompt-less php apt installs (so it doesn't ask for php.ini overwrites)? i see no debconf-get-selections PHP options... i see a note about php.ini but no key/value/type to use23:08
kyle___cipherson: gotta go, but if/when you get it working, university of michigan hosts an archive of freeware shareware and open source software for classic mac.  http://www.umich.edu/~archive/mac/23:09
_arayaqOk. Again. Screenless lappy, only VGA monitor, works fine in recovery mode but fails at a normal boot. I can blindedly log into tty and use the system. Any idea of how to force the system to use VGA instead of the inexisting notebook monitor?23:12
zdot_arayaq: does it display anything during the boot?>23:13
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_arayaqzdot: yes, I can see the BIOS screen and the grub. Nothing after that, unless I select recovery.23:14
joewscotthey everyone. I am having trouble theming my desktop. I am running the gnome shell and downloaded kamino for gnome, but when I select it, the top bar goes black (default) and nothing changes.23:14
joewscottAny ideas?23:14
k1l_!nomodeset | _arayaq23:14
ubottu_arayaq: A common kernel (boot)parameter is nomodeset, which is needed for some graphic cards that otherwise boot into a black screen or show corrupted splash screen. See http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1613132 on how to use this parameter23:14
joewscottI'll check it out. Thank you.23:15
joewscottWell, I don't have a black screen.23:16
zdot_arayaq: select recovery, disable plymouth in grub and try booting again23:16
OerHeksjoewscott, maybe you need to install some fonts http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Kamino?content=16070623:16
c0nfusedLubunterHow to improve Youtube video performance? It's not bad, but i can see some minor rendering lag on 720p.23:17
joewscotthow do I disable plymouth?23:17
zdot_arayaq: http://junktext.net/notes/Note04.txt this might be helpfull, you might also want setting a lower console resolution23:17
joewscottohhh wrong message23:17
joewscottOerHeks, I have the fonts, i wish i could show a picture... uhh it's just the default toolbar23:18
k1l_joewscott: see the messages addressed to you. not everything is meant for you23:18
joewscottk1l_, right. sorry about that.23:19
_arayaqubottu: ive tried nomodeset but after some boot up messages the screen goes off again23:20
ubottu_arayaq: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)23:20
zdot_arayaq: then you mast configure your X again23:21
zdotmust*23:21
_arayaqzdot: ill try disabling plymouth23:21
zdot_arayaq: you can do it in txt recovery mode23:21
zdot_arayaq: no no, if it diplays boot after changing the res than just change the resolution23:21
zdot_arayaq: what's your grphic card model?23:21
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_arayaqzdot: its an integrated intel. Everything was fine when the notebook had its own screen23:23
zdot_arayaq: which intel23:23
c0nfusedLubunterHow to improve Youtube video performance? It's not bad, but i can see some minor rendering lag on 720p.23:23
frankbroI recently did a netinstall of 13.04 and Im trying to set up wicd as my network manager. The problem is the daemon fails to start but I have no clue where to look for an error. dmesg is empty, so is /var/log/syslog and /var/log/wicd23:24
_arayaqzdot: GM45, i think (Core 2 Duo micro)23:24
zdotfrankbro: run wicd in verbose mode ommiting the start script and see what it tells you23:24
zdot_arayaq: you may want changing yuour defauld display in your xorg conf23:25
frankbrozdot, a python error, File Exists23:25
zdotwhat is the exact error?23:28
zdoterror message*?23:28
frankbroI guess I can go further from this, thanks zdot23:28
frankbroOSError: [Errno 17] File exists23:28
_arayaqzdot: i did X -configure from recovery, but it fails23:28
Mega1any help with my error http://paste.ubuntu.com/6121542/23:28
_arayaqzdot: it says the screen numbers and the detected devices does not match23:28
zdot_arayaq: no, it did write a xorg.conf.new to /root anyway but you'll have to hardcode your default display there i think23:28
zdot_arayaq: also, when the screen goes blan you still probably can go alt+ctrl+f1 and login to text console23:28
_arayaqzdot: i took a look at the file, but it seemed like a dummy one23:28
zdotblank*23:28
Curtisbeef1noob question: I want to move over to using Ubuntu on computer(for web dev) my main drive is a SSD I have a 2TB storage drive that is NTFS. Is it not ideal to use NTFS as a storage/work drive in linux? Or will I be fine? I do do a lot of file manipulation on the drive.23:29
_arayaqzdot: also I was able to boot up PuppyLinux23:29
zdotCurtisbeef1: actually i use ntfs on my pc machine for storage all the time. ntfs-3g is kinda good23:29
_arayaqzdot: ill try to use the xorg.conf it generates23:29
joewscottI have a screenshot of the specific problem and what the toolbar looks like after I apply a theme. I can message it to anyone who has an idea of why the theme won't apply.23:30
Curtisbeef1zdot: so its fine to just stick with NTFS?23:30
zdotCurtisbeef1: it's always better to use linux filesystems with linux but i use ntfs for windows compatibility23:31
zdotCurtisbeef1: it works just fine, but it's not fully linux compatibile, obviously23:31
Curtisbeef1kk thanks ;)23:31
zdotok, i think i'll have a tea23:32
SyloSybinWhere can I find a good command cheat-sheet/list for Ubuntu 13.04? I am having trouble with locating one on google.23:33
KenjaminQuestion: If i install ubuntu to a second hard drive, does it alter the MBR or can i just select which hard drive to boot from in the bios HDD select menu when i want to use linux?23:33
ejvSyloSybin: man <command>; best "cheat-sheet" you'll ever want or need.23:33
Kenjaminand not have windows get jealous and screw up my MBR23:33
skinuxHow can we set Backspace key to navigate to previous page in web browser?23:34
SyloSybinAh thanks, I forgot about that. >_<23:34
ejvKenjamin: if you install GRUB it will place it's own bootloader.23:34
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Sia-hey, it's possible to install ubuntu on chromebook without this scripts or xubuntu?23:52
x666MafiAi need help trouble shooting my sys, i have both nemo and nautilus file managers installed, when i run either as gksudo/gksu they both constantly crash. I have tried runing from terminal but its not givving me any error msgs in terminal. Can someone tell me where i should too to debug the issue. Thanks ahead of time. ;)23:54
zdotx666MafiA: running a graphical file manager with admin prevelages may not be the best idea, however regardless of that they should not  crash23:56
arayaqx666MafiA: i think gksu is deprecated in 13.04+23:57
SecretFirei have linux mint cinnamon and a hd 7770 gpu, and cinnamon keeps on crashing, and reverting to fallback mode. How can I solve this?23:57
zdot!mint23:57
ubottuLinux Mint is not a supported derivative of Ubuntu. Please seek support in #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org23:57
x666MafiAzdot, I know but its the easiest solutions for what i am doing at the moment and it is unbearable when they crash in less than a minute every time i have been doing work all day dealing with it and I am 5 minutes from suicide atm.23:58
x666MafiAarayaq, i know thats y i said gksudo/gksu23:58
x666MafiAgksu still works but they are phasing it out i always use gksudo but just wanted to let you know i have tried both23:59
arayaqx666MafiA: do they crash when not rooted?23:59
x666MafiAyup23:59
x666MafiAmore often when rooted thouhg23:59

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