[00:00] <ironfoot495> is there anyone who understands this?
[00:00] <UserError> !bugs
[00:01] <OldTexas> !wireless
[00:02] <kangping> Could anyone please help me to set up bumblebee properly? This is giving me gray hair ;)
[00:02] <OerHeks> ironfoot495, all we know is "syntax error near unexpected token `" so what is the script you are running?
[00:02] <OldTexas> !bumblebee
[00:04] <kangping> OldTexas: does this mean you can help? Or are you sending me somewhere else? Sorry, haven't been on irc in years
[00:06] <OldTexas> kangping, there is a bot here that if you have and issue you can sometimes type !issue and get help.  I was seeing if there was anything for you in the bot
[00:06] <OerHeks> kangping, this page is a good start https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bumblebee
[00:07] <kangping> OerHeks: have been there. Done that. But I always get a low graphics version, that throws me unto the command line
[00:08] <kangping> Purging bumblebees packages won't set me back to defaults either... So every time I want to try a solution I'm reinstalling the os
[00:08] <SunshineNFreedom> I should really switch back to ubuntu again... I enjoy this body cast they call windows though xD
[00:08] <OldTexas> ouch
[00:08] <kangping> Thanks OldTexas . I guess there wasn't anything in there, huh ;)
[00:09] <OldTexas> nothing came up, sorry
[00:10] <kangping> It seems like there are a billion problems and as many solutions. If I could just get back to the "regular" state running nouveau (or whatever it is)... That would already be a huge step in the right direction.
[00:11] <MGHacker> alquem brasileiro ae
[00:11] <OerHeks> !br
[00:11] <OldTexas> no fallo
[00:15] <vergine> eee
[00:17] <Avgva> hey
[00:20] <knifes1234> feet
[00:21] <cortexman> can I extend /dev/sda1 in this gparted image to use all of the unallocated space? http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=271119
[00:21] <Ronus> Head?
[00:21] <knifes1234> hello
[00:21] <SunshineNFreedom> Toes?
[00:21] <Avgva> test
[00:22] <kangping> Maybe I should change my question to: how can I get back to an earlier state of my installation. A more ... Functional state
[00:22] <pmitros> What's the best way to share files between Ubuntu machines? I'd like to have some kind of mount. In an ideal case, it would be secure, reasonably fault-tolerant, and reasonably easy to set up and maintain (if it can reuse existing servers I have -- like ssh or http -- that's ideal; but something that it's own server is okay too).
[00:22] <Japella> What's the best way to share files between Ubuntu machines? I'd like to have some kind of mount. In an ideal case, it would be secure, reasonably fault-tolerant, and reasonably easy to set up and maintain (if it can reuse existing servers I have  like ssh or http  that's ideal; but something that it's own server is okay too). now has -1 karma
[00:22] <Avgva> test
[00:22] <jrib> pmitros: define "secure"
[00:23] <alpha_> Ari : I installed that
[00:24] <pmitros> jrib: The key thing is that I don't want something remotely exploitable. If I install a server that has regular zero-days and issues like that, it's a big problem. The #2 -- and less important thing -- is that files are transferred in a cryptosecure manner.
[00:24] <Japella> jrib: The key thing is that I don't want something remotely exploitable. If I install a server that has regular zero-days and issues like that, it's a big problem. The #2  and less important thing  is that files are transferred in a cryptosecure manner. now has -1 karma
[00:24] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, oh? the kernel 3.11 .deb? okay open up terminal and run uname -r what do you get?
[00:24] <jrib> pmitros: you're sending traffic over the internet (not just your lan)?
[00:24] <alpha_> 3.11.1-031101-generic
[00:25] <pmitros> jrib: Something like sshfs is ideal; it doesn't open anything new -- but I've had stability issues with it with intermittent networks.
[00:25] <Japella> jrib: Something like sshfs is ideal; it doesn't open anything new  but I've had stability issues with it with intermittent networks. now has -1 karma
[00:25] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, okay, now are you using any proprietary wifi driver? like broadcam
[00:25] <pmitros> jrib: Major use case is on my LAN, but it'd be nice to have an off-site server for backups, in which case it'd be going over super-insecure internet.
[00:25] <alpha_> no but my wifi LED always is on and it cant be off
[00:25] <knifes1234> 3.5.0-40-generic
[00:26] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, no that's now what I mean...
[00:26] <jrib> pmitros: well either use sshfs or sftp or (setup nfs or samba and a vpn)
[00:26] <knifes1234> haha
[00:26] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, chances are you aren't, go on ahead and reboot... the GRUB menu will appear, select ubuntu from it or wait 'til it times out
[00:26] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, after rebooting, come back here and tell me how it works out
[00:27] <k1l_> knifes1234: could you please reduce the offtopic commands and stay focused on the technical support?
[00:27] <alpha_> i rebooted
[00:27] <DesignerX> hi everyone
[00:27] <Avgva> hey
[00:27] <Avgva> what's up
[00:27] <alpha_> first i installed the .deb kernel 3.11 and then i rebooted laptop
[00:27] <knifes1234> hey
[00:27] <pmitros> jrib: The server is running ssh and nginx. nginx+https+digest auth would work well, if there's anything that does that. Advantage would be better tolerance for internet going down.
[00:28] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, oh you did? laptop not running hot anymore? type sensors in terminal and pastebin it for me
[00:28] <DesignerX> I need help with 'casper-rw file' .. I need more detaild info about it & how can I "Manually" have  an ISO boot & detect casper-rw file  ?
[00:28] <OpusContinuum> So what alternatives to ath5k wifi driver is there? I have a  US dlink DWL-G510 Rev. B
[00:28] <pmitros> jrib: sshfs (and that's the only way I know to do an sftp mount as well) fails if the internet connection is momentarily down (or at least it did a few years back when I last tried it).
[00:29] <alpha_> it seemt to be much cool
[00:29] <DesignerX> all guides say I need to format my USB & then use Universal installed fore linux & check the casper-rw option.. what If I already have ubuntu iso running from my USB, how can i create that file & start saving to it ?
[00:29] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, type dmesg | grep dpm in terminal and pastebin it
[00:30] <pmitros> Oh. Interesting sshfs now has a reconnect option!
[00:31] <knifes1234> i install Ubuntu 12.10 it OK
[00:31] <alpha_> Ari : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6117286/
[00:31] <alpha_> sonsor and latest expression
[00:31] <alpha_> sensors*
[00:31] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, yep it worked, enjoy your non-heating laptop
[00:31] <alpha_> is it normal ?
[00:32] <Ari-Yang> alpha, dpm initialized, dynamic power management
[00:32] <Ari-Yang> it worked
[00:32] <cortexman> can I extend /dev/sda1 in this gparted image to use all of the unallocated space? http://imagebin.org/index.php?mode=image&id=271119   somehow I need to get the unallocated space to be adjacent to /dev/sda1
[00:32] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, also take a look at dmesg | grep power
[00:32] <pmitros> jrib: Thanks.
[00:32] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, take a look at this also: www.botchco.com/agd5f/?p=57
[00:32] <hadwick> Hi all,  i am running version 12.04. I recently suffered a power outage and now am having trouble booting. Right now the boot process is hanging at netbios name server. Any help? I'm not doing so well on Google. Thanks in advance.
[00:33] <alpha_> Ari : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6117287/
[00:33] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, okay, that's all, your laptop shouldn't heat up anymore
[00:34] <Ari-Yang> I'm off~
[00:34] <Avgva> testing
[00:34] <wilee-nilee> DesignerX, You might look here to see several options, it easier to do all this when you make the usb, you can have more than 4 gigs persistence if you have a usb big enough by using a partition. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LiveCD/Persistence#Creating_the_.22casper-rw.22_File_System
[00:34] <alpha_> can it be more decreased ?
[00:35] <DesignerX> wilee-nilee: ty, the plan is NOt to use a parition but to use a file which I can copy/move later to a differnt location
[00:35] <wilee-nilee> DesignerX, Live usb's have their limitations though, no kernel upgrades it is just the iso and added installs or upgrades, and the casper will fill up and is not really cleanable efficiently.
[00:36] <BuJitsuBrown> hi how can i find the name of my sound card?
[00:36] <alpha_> Ari : can it be more decreased ?
[00:36] <wilee-nilee> DesignerX, Moving the casper makes no sense
[00:36] <whoever> hi all , I am tring to convert an mkv to iso with mkisfs and i keep getting the error that allow-limit-size is not specified the command i am usinag is mkisofs -dvd-video <infil> <outfile>   can someone assist
[00:36] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, *shrugs* dunno
[00:36] <Ari-Yang> why? :|
[00:37] <DesignerX> wilee-nilee: shouldnt copying the file have all the setting & changes made ? this way I can configur Ubuntu & copy the changes to many USBs/harddrives ?
[00:37] <alpha_> because it's hot now 58 'C
[00:37] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, the point of DPM is so that the gpu clocks up when it's needed and clocked down when more power isn't needed,that will prevent unnecessary heating
[00:37] <alpha_> i want to be about 45 'C
[00:38] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, pastebin me a new sensors output...
[00:38] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, what kind of laptop is this? core 2 duo? i3? i5?
[00:38] <wilee-nilee> DesignerX, This is not an install but a live ISO, do a full install if you want that. a live environment has a lot of limitations. Theoretically possible yes, but not sure why one would want to even use it that way.
[00:38] <alpha_> Ari : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6117300/
[00:39] <alpha_> Ari : Core i 5 3210-M --------- HP ProBook 4540 15.6"
[00:39] <Avgva> jaaadoooooooooo
[00:40] <Avgva> testing
[00:40] <DesignerX> wilee-nilee: well, the 1st is the install size  1Gb vs 7+GB . Most of the required things are just internet access , teamviewer, Skype & text editor
[00:40] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, your laptop's temp is fine... look at your old sensors http://paste.ubuntu.com/6117208/ and your new one http://paste.ubuntu.com/6117300/
[00:40] <Ari-Yang> your gpu is about 10-11 degrees less
[00:40] <k1l_> Avgva: could you please stop that testing in this channel?
[00:40] <wilee-nilee> DesignerX, Get a 8 gig or bigger usb and do a full install and you can clone it to another. That casper is the crux it fills up.
[00:40] <Avgva> alright sorry
[00:40] <DesignerX> wilee-nilee: On a bigger US (32 GB),  the only thing stopping me from a full install is not bieing able to install to a subfolder alonf side other linux distros
[00:40] <Adie> AMD or Nvidia GPU?
[00:40] <DesignerX> along *
[00:41] <Ari-Yang> Adie, AMD or nVidia for what?
[00:41] <wilee-nilee> DesignerX, Along side I'm not sure what you mean.
[00:41] <BuJitsuBrown> hi how can i find the name of my sound card?
[00:41] <Adie> Ari-Yang, for ubuntu
[00:41] <Ari-Yang> if you mean what to get.... tbh I'd recommend nVidia for linux
[00:41] <Adie> kk
[00:41] <DesignerX> wilee-nilee: having  Uvuntu, Mint & Puppy on one USB  for example
[00:41] <alpha_> Ari : yes ... thanks ... but what does temp6 = 127 mean ?
[00:41] <Ari-Yang> Adie, though AMD has better open source support right now
[00:42] <wilee-nilee> DesignerX, Yes you can multiple live or multiple installs.
[00:42] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, tbh I'm not sure what temp6 is :V
[00:42] <DesignerX> wilee-nilee: I cant find a way to install Ubuntu in a subfolder on my USB ..
[00:42] <DesignerX> wilee-nilee: oh ! any links please ;)
[00:42] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, it looks like it will always be that high... temp1-5 are no where neat hitting critical, so that's good
[00:42] <alpha_> Ari : how can i be a expert like you about linux ?
[00:43] <wilee-nilee> DesignerX, You could have a install and boot live ISO's with grub, what links exactly?
[00:43] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, lol I'm no expert at all, I'm still learning myself xD Though, to be better, do a lot of googling and don't be afraid to ask questions.
[00:43] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, you could also hang around here to, you'll learn a lot.
[00:44] <DesignerX> wilee-nilee: installing more then one distro on one USB/1Partition .. I think it will mean having each distro in a subfolder
[00:44] <alpha_> Ari : Do you know about programming ?
[00:44] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, I know a little... but I'm still learning myself.
[00:44] <alpha_> ok
[00:44] <alpha_> Ari : Can I add You ?
[00:45] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, btw you could join #ubuntu-offtopic for offtopic discussions etc., you can say that's the "lounge area"
[00:45] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, add me on what?
[00:45] <alpha_> on IRC - Xchat
[00:45] <wilee-nilee> DesignerX, here is my favorite multi live to start with. http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/  On a usb dual bopoting is the same as a hard drive you just have to make sure grub is put in its mbr.
[00:45] <wilee-nilee> booting*
[00:46] <wilee-nilee> DesignerX, Do you know how to dualboot?
[00:46] <Ari-Yang> alpha_, uh, sure... I'm not sure how you would do that, but on hexchat it looks like you can just right click on the nick and select "add friend"
[00:46] <Ari-Yang> so you'd right click on my nickname...
[00:46] <DesignerX> wilee-nilee: I use grub4dos .. I still need to learn more how to add entries to the menu list
[00:47] <DesignerX> menu.lst *
[00:47] <wilee-nilee> DesignerX, grub4dos is a windows use you don;t need it in linux.
[00:47] <DesignerX> wilee-nilee: my USN is fat32, I though I need to use it for such filesystem ? & isnt the  menu.lst work the same?
[00:47] <wilee-nilee> DesignerX, menu.lst is grub legacy we have grub 2 now i has the os-prober it finds the other OS's.
[00:48] <DesignerX> woow .. ok, guess time to get that
[00:48] <wilee-nilee> DesignerX, fat32 is for ISO's you would use ext4 or 3 for full installs.
[00:49] <wilee-nilee> DesignerX, If you have a ubuntu instal I would just use the multisystem iso loader in general, you can load iso till the usb is full.
[00:51] <wilee-nilee> gotta reboot back to linux
[00:54] <whoever>  4 down vote
[00:54] <whoever> 	
[00:54] <whoever>  ffmpeg -i "input.mkv" -f avi -c:v mpeg4 -b:v 4000k -c:a libmp3lame -b:a 320k "converted.avi"
[00:55] <Goatman> Why is Ubuntu’s default not to fsck the root filesystem on boot?
[00:55] <Goatman> Is this a bug? Should I open a ticket?
[00:57] <DesignerX> wilee , u back ?
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> Goatman, Iy has been discontinued, you can do it youself.
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> DesignerX, yes
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> It*
[00:58] <DesignerX> WB :D
[00:58] <wilee-nilee> sure ;)
[00:59] <krys> hi guys. i'm sitting in the middle of a university course on unix. i have no idea what i'm doing. can anyone point to any explanations?
[00:59] <DesignerX> Now I have most details needed to create a new Multiboot USB with Grub 2
[00:59] <nibalizer> uh
[00:59] <nibalizer> krys: man bash
[00:59] <DesignerX> will using Puppy slacko to create the Grub2  is the same ?
[00:59] <wilee-nilee> DesignerX, multiboot ISO's or installs?
[01:00] <DesignerX> for now ISO's
[01:00] <wilee-nilee> DesignerX, You have a ubuntu install perchance?
[01:00] <krys> i do not have a CD drive to install ubuntu from
[01:00] <DesignerX> Only in a VM, which I can connect the USB to it if needed
[01:00] <krys> or a USB
[01:01] <wilee-nilee> DesignerX, Use this from the vm. http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/
[01:01] <wilee-nilee> much easier, use gparted to format the usb to fat32 is all.
[01:02] <wilee-nilee> easy as pie, loads the iso and grub on each iso install
[01:03] <wilee-nilee> krys, For help you need to be specific is all.
[01:04] <DesignerX> wilee-nilee: ty very very much .. alot of useful info , time for me to test & get back to you with more problems lolz :D
[01:04] <wilee-nilee> cool, enjoy
[01:05] <DesignerX> krys: not sure exactly what you need but this may help ? http://www.pendrivelinux.com/yumi-multiboot-usb-creator/
[01:05] <wilee-nilee> krys, You could do a vm of ubuntu if needed.
[01:06] <wilee-nilee> krys, unix and linux are similiar in many ways but different though, there are unix channels on freenode.
[01:06] <Dr_Willis> that Multiboot is very handy at pendrivelinux.  it does pull in a LOT of dependencies to get it up on ubuntu.
[01:06] <krys> thanks DesignerX. i don't know how to PM!
[01:08] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis, I don't see any dependencies added on a ubuntu desktop install, or the shell install, not sure what you mean.
[01:08] <wilee-nilee> it does a apt update though
[01:08] <wilee-nilee> maybe I missed them. lol
[01:09] <krys> i'd like an installation from a partitioned drive. is this possible? (using that instead of CD/USB)
[01:09] <wilee-nilee> krys, really your best tool is having a cd or usb overall.
[01:10] <wilee-nilee> it can fix any number of problems
[01:10] <wilee-nilee> without this you are driving without a spare
[01:11] <krys> thanks. i'll grab a USB sometime tomorrow
[01:11] <krys> or a CD
[01:12] <wilee-nilee> krys, Check the ISO size chances are you needa dvd
[01:12] <krys> ISO size?
[01:12] <wilee-nilee> usb is best though in general
[01:13] <wilee-nilee> krys, YOu download ubuntu in a ISO format, it has been slightly bigger thaan a cd's limit for several releases is all.
[01:13] <Dr_Willis> wilee-nilee:  im thinking of --> http://www.pendrivelinux.com/multiboot-create-a-multiboot-usb-from-linux/    'multisystem'  ;)
[01:14] <krys> wilee-nilee, ok
[01:14] <krys> i will get a USB! thanks
[01:14] <Dr_Willis> krys:  you can set up grub and iso files to boot from a Hard drive  and install to a differnt hard drive I do that with my systenms and a large /boot/ partition
[01:14] <Dr_Willis> krys:  this way i have like a 'live-cd-recovery' entry in grub  so i can boot and fix things, or try other live cds
[01:15] <Dr_Willis> or reinstall.. quickly
[01:15] <wilee-nilee> Dr_Willis, I never noticed any dependencies when I install it using my gnome shell, however I see the apt update, maybe man fanboi use is blind to them. ;)
[01:15] <wilee-nilee> my*
[01:15] <krys> Dr_Willis: are there any risks to your current hard drive?
[01:15] <Dr_Willis> wilee-nilee:  i installed it the other day on a clean ubuntu install. pulled in several dozen packages about 200+mb total.  I noticed because i was teathered to my phone
[01:15] <Dr_Willis> krys:  if you format the hd by mistake. ;P
[01:15] <Dongitstu> I have dual boot fedora and ubuntu, and I updated my ubuntu distro and now it wont recognize fedora
[01:16] <wilee-nilee> Ah I will have to look closer, I just use it without looking real cloe.
[01:16] <Dr_Willis> krys:  my /boot/ was on its own partion. i was sure to tell the installer to  install to the OTHER hard drive.
[01:16] <Dongitstu> also my ubuntu distro won't connect to the internet
[01:16] <krys> Dr_Willis: i don't lan on doing that!
[01:16] <wilee-nilee> close*
[01:16] <rld> anyone using xorg-edgers drivers on 12.04?
[01:16] <krys> plan*
[01:16] <Dr_Willis> krys:  people rarely do.. :) but mistakes happen
[01:16] <wilee-nilee> rld, PPA's are not technically supported here.
[01:17] <krys> Dr_Willis: yes, ty for the heads-up :P
[01:17] <wilee-nilee> Dongitstu, mount fedore and run sudo update-grub
[01:17] <rld> oh well, I just can't change my refresh rate in the display settings
[01:17] <wilee-nilee> fedora*
[01:20] <delinquentme> initialize a python script on a slave computer from a master computer over network /??
[01:21] <nerdtron> delinquentme, ssh to the slave computer and execute the script?
[01:23] <delinquentme> nerdtron, now if I want to get the output logs from the slave ... written into a file on the master
[01:23] <delinquentme> sudo python carls_stepper.py >> stepper_logging.txt &
[01:23] <delinquentme> something like this
[01:24] <hamnstar> hey folks - trying to get a ubuntu server up and running, on my simple 192.168.50.X LAN.  However, once i configure the ethernet card, I cannot ping anything nor can anything ping it... wiresharking the switch shows arp requests that go unanswered.  Mad brownie points to anyone who can tell me what is going on????
[01:24] <bazhang> hamnstar, try #ubuntu-server
[01:24] <hamnstar> bazhang:ah, thx
[01:25] <hamnstar> fwiw, ubuntu desktop works without a hitch... but the same-version server OS has issues :/
[01:27] <nerdtron> hamnstar, try deleting the /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net file and reboot after you change to a static address
[01:27] <nerdtron> delinquentme, not quite sure about the syntax but you can pipe the log file output via ssh
[01:29] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[01:29] <nerdtron> morning
[01:29] <overclucker> delinquentme: ssh user@host | tee -a session.log
[01:31] <nerdtron> delinquentme, ssh user@host 'tail -f /path/log.txt' >> localcopy.log.txt
[01:33] <lotuspsychje> im looking for a groovebox package for ubuntu, something similar to roland 505
[01:34] <lotuspsychje> ive tested hydrogen and lmms, but looking for a little less complicated
[01:35] <hamnstar> hydrogen is about as easy as she gets
[01:35] <balazs_> Hi. Does anyone know a tool to measure how much time one spends in front of the computer. Something like all the periods when there was a keyboard or mouse activity. Say 2 minutes idleness would mean that you're not in front of the computer.
[01:35] <hamnstar> from what ive used, anyway
[01:35] <furoido> guys.. can you recommend a photo handler app?
[01:36] <lotuspsychje> hamnstar: tnx for feedback mate
[01:36] <hamnstar> nerdtron:  removing the 70-persistent-net file + reboot didn't seem to do anything
[01:36] <lotuspsychje> balazs_: apt-cache search time
[01:36] <lotuspsychje> !info xtime
[01:37] <bazhang> furoido, shotwell
[01:37] <somsip> balazs_: workrave might give you what you want
[01:37] <furoido> bazhang, does it resize uploads?
[01:37] <bazhang> furoido, uploads to where
[01:38] <balazs_> somsip: thans; checking it out
[01:38] <furoido> i mean like when you upload large photos on the web, it should be resize to smaller size
[01:39] <furoido> bazhang, something like facebook upload
[01:39] <Rallias> So... umm... I just accidently stumbled upon a major security oversight with ubuntu's paid software system... who's the proper person to notify?
[01:39] <hamnstar> hmmm.... now im seeing arp replies but still get destination unreachable on ping's....
[01:39] <bazhang> furoido, no idea sorry
[01:39] <bazhang> Rallias, file a bug
[01:39] <bazhang> !bug | Rallias
[01:40] <lotuspsychje> hamnstar: what are you trying to find out?
[01:42] <lotuspsychje> furoido: like bazhang says, you can resize a picture with shotwell, then upload it to your fb
[01:42] <hamnstar> lotuspsychje:  my ubuntu server install cant respond/get pings on my LAN... I only have two hosts on a switch, and i can see the arp requests and replies, but im still getting "Destination host unreachable"
[01:42] <lotuspsychje> hamnstar: you might wanna try asking in #ubuntu-server or the ##networking guys
[01:44] <hamnstar> lotuspsyche: thanks, more brains to pick :)
[01:45] <lotuspsychje> hamnstar: maybe if you detail your LAN layout someone might understand better where you want to go?
[01:46] <lotuspsychje> hamnstar: other hosts are win or ubuntu?
[01:47] <hamnstar> lotuspyschje:  one host is ubu server 12.04, other is ubu desktop 12.04... LAN is distilled to the simplest, 2 hosts on a layer-2 dumb switch
[01:47] <lotuspsychje> hamnstar: firewall or router block?
[01:48] <furoido> lotuspsychje, what i mean is, when you upload a photo, it would automatically be resized.. no need for facebook thing
[01:48] <hamnstar> lotuspsyche: trying with a live cd on the offending host now to rule out hardware issues.... one sec, let me flush iptables and try again
[01:53] <lotuspsychje> furoido: maybe this can help? http://www.addictivetips.com/ubuntu-linux-tips/upload-photos-videos-to-facebook-from-ubuntu-desktop/
[01:54] <furoido> lotuspsychje, oh no, im not referring to facebook
[01:59] <pepper_chico> anyone knows a good email client for linux? thunderbird is stupid, whenever I open it, I can't let it open because it consumes too much RAM and CPU, my mail boxes are big, and the stupid thunderbird never stop downloading the messages, and never finishes this
[01:59] <Susy_40_Inglesa> hello
[01:59] <lotuspsychje> !info geary | pepper_chico
[01:59] <hamnstar> Ok, question for the real die-hards here... My static IP LAN network settings work in ubuntu 12.04 desktop (via livecd), but not in ubuntu 12.04 server.  I'm thinking its a driver issue?  Does this sound credible?
[02:01] <IrcDroidClient> hello
[02:02] <Darkening> hey...
[02:02] <reisio> 'lo
[02:02] <Darkening> anyone around?
[02:02] <Darkening> hey reiso
[02:02] <hipitihop> If I have a mount .e.g. /media/fs_share which was provided by a VirtualBox shared folder, but I need sudo to see it, what is the correct way to gain normal user access to that mount. i..e should I mount /media/fs_share to /home/<user>/<anothermount> or should I change ownership of /media/fs_share or some other way. What is the correct linux way
[02:03] <IrcDroidClient> I installed ubuntu over windows but did not format the recovery partition. on rebooting I get the windows recovery screen. do I need to remove the recovery partition as well?
[02:03] <reisio> hipitihop: chown or chmod
[02:03] <reisio> hipitihop: recursively, if required
[02:03] <reisio> hipitihop: or if you're using /etc/fstab (you probably aren't), you can set particular opts
[02:04] <pepper_chico> lotuspsychje, will try it now
[02:04] <wilee-nilee> IrcDroidClient, This happen to be W8 you removed?
[02:04] <IrcDroidClient> wilee-nilee yes
[02:04] <Darkening> So... I dual boot windows 7 and xubuntu, I was trying to start up windows earlier today and it froze a couple of times on the windows symbol, so, the next time I started it up I did something dumb and ran the windows startup repair thing it offered me, after it rebooted all I got was a black screen saying, "No such partition, Grub rescue>" and I really have no idea what to do about this...
[02:04] <wilee-nilee> IrcDroidClient, You most likely have uefi setup, did you know that?
[02:05] <IrcDroidClient> yes. I installed with legacy mode enabled
[02:05] <Dr_Willis> !fixgrub | Darkening
[02:05] <IrcDroidClient> @wilee-nilee
[02:06] <pepper_chico> lotuspsychje, thanks a million, this is much much better
[02:06] <lotuspsychje> pepper_chico: np mate
[02:06] <pepper_chico> wow, I can't understand how people continues with thunderbird, it's awful
[02:06] <f00bar80> i'm on ubuntu 12.10 and installed  libqt4-qt3support, but when tried to install software package, i got the error qt3 runtime library is required, any idea what's wrong?
[02:07] <wilee-nilee> Darkening, boot a live cd and use the bootrepair app to run just the bootinfo summary to get the url generated to it, or if you like use the repair. the bot has it in its info. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[02:07] <pepper_chico> now, I'll look up the thunderbird generated trash to try clean it up
[02:07] <pepper_chico> and just remove it
[02:08] <Darkening> I tried reinstalling it off my liveusb of ubuntu and it just told me boot error. and !fixgrub just gets me unknown command
[02:08] <lotuspsychje> pepper_chico: try #ubuntu-offtopic for likes/dislikes
[02:08] <wilee-nilee> IrcDroidClient, Cool, we had a user here yesterday who did this but had to wipe the HD and format it to msdos to get a install, I'm not sure removing just the recovery partition is the answer here.
[02:09] <IrcDroidClient> @wilee-nilee  you mean I'll have to do a fresh install with a full wipe?
[02:09] <Dr_Willis> and by full wipe - we mean zeroing out the drive :)
[02:09] <wilee-nilee> IrcDroidClient, I'm not sure to be honest I have not had to mess with a uefi computer yet, luckily.
[02:10] <Dr_Willis> via use of the dd, or other commands.
[02:10] <wilee-nilee> gotta get this gpt remnants
[02:10] <wilee-nilee> those*
[02:11] <f00bar80> ppl any comment ?.
[02:11] <nerssi7> My wireless card won't wake after my computer comes out of standby. I've looked up solutions but none of them have worked. I think my case is overcomplicated because I also use the ndiswrapper driver (because the normal one freezes the computer when it's on battery power). Can anyone help? This is on Linux Mint btw, but people on Ubuntu apparently have the same problem when dealing with Realtek hardware.
[02:11] <wilee-nilee> sure I like coffee more tha tea.
[02:11] <IrcDroidClient> okay. will definitely do that today. good thing its a fresh install.
[02:11] <lotuspsychje> wilee-nilee: ive formatted one win8 machine lately with uefi and ubuntu installed out of the box, even no bios changement needed (for that machine)
[02:11] <IrcDroidClient> @wilee-nilee  and @Dr_Willis  thanks :)
[02:12] <Darkening> how do I use that bootrepair thing if I can't get into my actual os?
[02:12] <wilee-nilee> Darkening, Live cd
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> Darkening:  you use a Live cd - theres even boot repair cd's that have it included
[02:12] <lotuspsychje> !mint | nerssi7
[02:12] <Dr_Willis> Darkening:  theres also a ubuntu secure remix that has it included
[02:13] <wilee-nilee> lotuspsychje, Cool, the user removed the W8 OS is all, The problem I have seen with these uefi setuos is the manufacturers versions of them it seems.
[02:13] <lotuspsychje> nerssi7: we can recommend you installing an ubuntu version from topic
[02:13] <wilee-nilee> setups*
[02:13] <IrcDroidClient> mine boots only after I select boot options and select ubuntu. else it tries to boot windows by default every time
[02:13] <delinquentme> overclucker, so I just realized that I want to disconnect from the session ... and still have the master machine logging the output from the slave ... after I've killed the SSH connection I accessed the master machine with
[02:14] <lotuspsychje> IrcDroidClient: did you disable secure boot from bios?
[02:14] <nerssi7> ubottu: the Linux mint people have been very unhelpful unfortunately. The reason I use Linux Mint is because it's extremely lite on my low powered netbook. Ubuntu didn't run very well.
[02:14] <wilee-nilee> IrcDroidClient, I would use it as is if it were me unless you have the W8 OS backed up, you never know if you might want to get rid of it with W8 back on.
[02:14] <lotuspsychje> nerssi7: try lubuntu or xubuntu
[02:15] <IrcDroidClient> @lotuspsychje  yes I did. a
[02:15] <wilee-nilee> IrcDroidClient, You can tab complete nicks.
[02:15] <IrcDroidClient> enabled legacy support too
[02:15] <nerssi7> do lubuntu or xubuntu have something as minimal as the mate desktop I can use with mint?
[02:16] <IrcDroidClient> @wilee-nilee  for some reason my nick isn't showing
[02:16] <lotuspsychje> nerssi7: yes they are very low resources
[02:16] <wilee-nilee> nerssi7, No mate, but cinnamon is in the raring repos.
[02:16] <wilee-nilee> IrcDroidClient, others nicks I mean
[02:17] <nerssi7> wilee-nilee: isn't cinnamon the heaviest desktop manager?
[02:17] <wilee-nilee> nerssi7, NO idea I used it for 5 min just to see it, never been a mint user.
[02:17] <lotuspsychje> neither do i
[02:17] <IrcDroidClient> @wilee-nilee  I'm sorry I don't understand :)
[02:18] <wilee-nilee> lubuntu is the lightest or its source lxde
[02:18] <nerssi7> ok I'll look into it
[02:18] <wilee-nilee> !tab | IrcDroidClient we don't use @
[02:19] <wilee-nilee> nerssi7, There are even lighter desktops, but these are canonical release de's
[02:19] <IrcDroidClient> wilee-nilee  okay. sorry :) my bad. I'm typing with a phone though
[02:19] <nerssi7> There's nothing really wrong with Linux Mint, it's probably my favourite I've used so far (other than Debian), it's just this stupid wireless card problem. And I'm not convinced that it will be different on any other distro so I'm a bit reluctant to redo everything :(
[02:19] <wilee-nilee> IrcDroidClient, No problem just wanted you to know the options. ;)
[02:20] <wilee-nilee> nerssi7, Never said there was I used ubuntu long before mint was around is all.
[02:21] <IrcDroidClient> wilee-nilee  do you know how I can make my nick show?
[02:21] <wilee-nilee> IrcDroidClient, I see it, what irc app are you using?
[02:22] <OerHeks>  /whoami
[02:22] <IrcDroidClient> wilee-nilee , ircdroid
[02:23] <wilee-nilee> IrcDroidClient, On my nexus 7 or dna smart phone I use yaaic androidirc both show all user nicks
[02:23] <wilee-nilee> or*
[02:23] <nerssi7> I'm honestly thinking of just reinstalling Windows XP, if only for the reason that I know it WILL work, gotta figure out how to do it via USB now though
[02:24] <Sand|away> Im using Windows XP atm
[02:24] <nerssi7> because my main machine is OSX (on it right now) and I remotely program with my old netbook, I just liked having Linux because of how similar it is to OSX
[02:24] <nerssi7> and there's a lot of stuff that I really don't like about Windows
[02:24] <IrcDroidClient> wilee-nilee  thanks. will try either
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> xp is eol in less than 200 days
[02:25] <UserError> nerssi, if you like OSX use elementaryOS
[02:25] <nerssi7> having a really small Macbook Air would be ideal for outside programming but it costs a bit too much $$ at the moment
[02:25] <UserError> So buy a Pixel for 500~ on ebay
[02:25] <UserError> or like 3-4 ina  month or two
[02:26] <Ari-Yang> nerssi7, replace XP with Linux distro...
[02:26] <wilee-nilee> UserError, very little support for that os.
[02:26] <UserError> Uh, not really
[02:26] <Ari-Yang> if XP is on it, I'll assume it has like 500MB ram, so I'd say throw lubuntu on it or something
[02:26] <UserError> The devs actually listen to you
[02:26] <UserError> and it has less total bugs than unity ATM
[02:26] <lotuspsychje> guys lets keep this ubuntu support
[02:26] <wilee-nilee> UserError, Cool, we just see people here wanting support is all.
[02:26] <UserError> This is ubuntu support
[02:26] <Ari-Yang> !offtopic
[02:26] <UserError> not !offtopic
[02:27] <nerssi7> Ari-Yang: you may have missed the conversation earlier but I'm thinking of switching back to XP because the wireless driver is very bad under Linux :(
[02:27] <UserError> the base is ubuntu
[02:27] <Ari-Yang> nerssi7, what driver?
[02:27] <wilee-nilee> UserError, Your argument is moot don't bother. ;)
[02:27] <nerssi7> Realtek wireless card, but it's using the ndiswrapper
[02:27] <lotuspsychje> nerssi7: plz stop asking support for your mint
[02:28] <Ari-Yang> why not try not using proprietary?
[02:28] <UserError> BURNED
[02:28] <Ari-Yang> nerssi7, what ubuntu version are you using?...
[02:28] <nerssi7> lotuspsychje: like I said before, this is a problem under Ubuntu as well as Mint, in fact 90% of the people with the exact same problem have it under Ubuntu
[02:29] <lotuspsychje> nerssi7: no need to argue, this is ubuntu support not mint
[02:29] <boeyc> hi I just installed ubuntu alongside with my windows 7. It finished, I restarted and now i have a grub rescue problem. What should i do
[02:29] <Ciphoenix> I did it :)
[02:29] <wilee-nilee> !grub | boeyc
[02:29] <nerssi7> ok well I have another laptop with the same problem with Ubuntu on it
[02:29] <lotuspsychje> boeyc: can you describe your error?
[02:30] <boeyc> loading operating system... error:no such device
[02:30] <overclucker> delinquentme: if you create a ssh key on the slave and copy it to the master, sudo python carls_stepper.py | ssh user@master "cat >> stepper.log"
[02:30] <boeyc> grub rescue > _  . . . .
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> boeyc, A partitioned install not from windows like a wubi right?
[02:30] <boeyc> i used a ubuntu 12.04 cd to install on another partition
[02:30] <boeyc> so i booted via cd
[02:31] <wilee-nilee> boeyc, You have more than 1 HD?
[02:31] <boeyc> then installed ubuntu
[02:31] <boeyc> i only have 1
[02:31] <boeyc> i just split the partition
[02:31] <wilee-nilee> boeyc, Try the bootrepair app in the bots link and save the bootinfo summary url.
[02:31] <lotuspsychje> nerssi7: well if you describe your issue and ubuntu version we will try to help
[02:32] <boeyc> thanks will try
[02:32] <wilee-nilee> boeyc, I hope you have not exceeded the primary partition limit and gone dynamic is all.
[02:32] <boeyc> I had 1tb i think i oput 120 to ubuntu
[02:33] <lotuspsychje> boeyc: a sudo update-grub might help in some cases
[02:33] <wilee-nilee> boeyc This a OEM W7 install perchance?
[02:33] <boeyc> no its not oem
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> boeyc, Cool you are probably okay with that partition amount.
[02:34] <wilee-nilee> the*
[02:34] <boeyc> grub rescue > sudo update-grub . . . unknown command sudo
[02:34] <boeyc> not sure what it does that
[02:34] <boeyc> i boot up and all i see is grub rescue
[02:35] <wilee-nilee> boeyc, You would have to chroot to run that and you have to load the bootloader as well, use the bootrepair app.
[02:35] <boeyc> i will follow the link provided
[02:35] <boeyc> then get back to you guys, thanks!
[02:36] <OldTexas> I fell like I'm eatin' soup with a fork.  System sees m USB nick, nick sees my network and it shows a lock hickey.  It'll take th 13 13 times I use for a network password, sit there n' whril around a bit them Wireless Network Disconnected pops up.
[02:36] <boeyc> i hope my windows is alive
[02:36] <overclucker> delinquentme: but that may be too backwards and tricky. you could just run the ssh command in a screen session then detatch
[02:37] <delinquentme> overclucker, nailed it :D thats what I just finished configuring :D
[02:37] <delinquentme> looks like its doing exactly what its supposed to
[02:38] <overclucker> delinquentme: with screen or reverse ssh?
[02:38] <delinquentme> screen :D
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> boeyc, It's alive "Dr. Frankenstein" most likely. ;)
[02:38] <OldTexas> THis make any sense to y'all?   <NO-CARRIER,BROADCAST,MULTICAST,UP> mtu 1500 qdisc mq state DOWN qlen 1000
[02:38] <OldTexas>     link/ether 00:9c:81:99:af:a3 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff
[02:38] <OldTexas>     inet6 fe80::29c:81ff:fe99:afa3/64 scope link
[02:38] <OldTexas>        valid_lft forever preferred_lft forever
[02:38] <OldTexas>  
[02:38] <FloodBot1> OldTexas: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:39] <ejv> OldTexas: sudo apt-get install pastebinit
[02:39] <frankenstein_> The doctor is in.
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> hehe
[02:39] <f00bar80> i'm on ubuntu 12.10 and actually the desktop is very slow evern atfer i disabled effects/
[02:39] <ejv> your experience will be bad if your hardware is bad
[02:40] <Ari-Yang> f00bar80, you using Unity?
[02:40] <OldTexas> that;s what I get with ip addr
[02:40] <chsados> hey guys i think i broke my PPA sources when trying to update firefox I am getting the following error: Type 'ain' is not known on line 1 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list.d/mozillateam-firefox-stable-precise.list
[02:40] <wilee-nilee> !ppa | chsados
[02:40] <chsados> i see a sources.list but not sources.list.d
[02:40] <chsados> !ppa-purge
[02:41] <wilee-nilee> chsados, /etc/apt/sourceslist.d
[02:41] <bwayne> I have a favor to ask. Whatever dev decided to let gnome-keyring manager to over-ride ssh-agent and gpg-agent, and then to hide the gnome-keyring manager from the autostart panel, please stop. Just stop. That is all.
[02:41] <f00bar80> Ari-Yang, i've used compizconfig to disable effect , but it's still very slow on my notebook with 2Gb ram
[02:41] <ejv> !offtopic | bwayne
[02:41] <f00bar80> Ari-Yang, how to know if i'm using it or not and disable it?
[02:41] <Ari-Yang> f00bar80, so you're using Unity? yeah that's why :|
[02:41] <Ari-Yang> f00bar80, what's the graphics on that laptop?
[02:42] <Ari-Yang> oh and what ubuntu version are you on?
[02:42] <Ari-Yang> f00bar80, type this in terminal, what do you get? lspci | grep VGA
[02:44] <f00bar80> Ari-Yang, 12.10 this is version , and VGA -> Intel Atom D2xxx/N2xxx Integrated graphics controller
[02:45] <Dr_Willis> is this a notebook or a netbook?
[02:45] <Ari-Yang> f00bar80, perhaps try the propietary driver for that card if there is any? go to dashboard type and select software sources
[02:46] <kostkon> Ari-Yang, there isn't
[02:46] <Ari-Yang> f00bar80, then go to the Additional Drivers tab and see if there are any proprietary driver
[02:46] <Ari-Yang> oh
[02:46] <Ari-Yang> f00bar80, then don't use unity...
[02:46] <Ari-Yang> !LXDE
[02:46] <Ari-Yang> ^ try that f00bar80
[02:46] <boeyc> wilee-nilee, i still have the same problem I cannot run sudo grub-install /dev/XXX. plus I am on 12.04 and installed ubuntu alongside windows not vice versa
[02:46] <chsados> yay i fixed it wilee-nilee :D
[02:47] <boeyc> wilee-nilee, i did try sudo apt-get install grub which worked
[02:47] <boeyc> but same issue
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> i tend to use lxde/lubuntu or xfce/xubuntu on my low end machines.   f00bar80  -  but my low end box's are netbooks that are 2+ yrs old. so are very low end by todays standards
[02:47] <chsados> Dr_Willis: you ever get xbmc working on 2nd screen?
[02:47] <boeyc> plus I had to use the "try ubuntu option" when it loaded
[02:47] <boeyc> didnt want to reinstall
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> chsados:  im on 13.10 and its acting very differntly then how it worked on 12.x
[02:47] <Ari-Yang> f00bar80, type sudo apt-get install lxde in terminal
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> chsados:  theres some bugs going oin in the nvidia drivers/twinview  it seems with some apps missbehaveing
[02:47] <Ari-Yang> logout and switch DEs in the login box...
[02:47] <Ari-Yang> ^ f00bar80
[02:47] <chsados> ahh i see
[02:48] <chsados> im just dealing with it in window mode at the moment - will do further research on the weekend
[02:48] <Dr_Willis> chsados:  i full screen an app - or flash video or other apps.. and they spread  out across both monitors. :) thats not how they are supposed to behave.
[02:48] <boeyc> wilee-nilee, it says error cannot find a device for boot/grub (is /dev mounted?)
[02:48] <chsados> yea thats odd
[02:49] <Dr_Willis> chsados:  thats how it used to behave if i dident have twinview enabled.   years ago.
[02:49] <f00bar80> Ari-Yang, i tried and installed lubunutu-desktop , but got an error and nothing changed
[02:50] <OldTexas> Anything here that means anything to anyone?  ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready
[02:50] <wilee-nilee> boeyc, when?
[02:51] <wylde> OldTexas: the netcard hasn't initialized or is busy. At least that what I interperate that as. :)
[02:51] <Ari-Yang> f00bar80, what error? pastebin the output
[02:51] <boeyc> wilee-nilee,  sudo grub-install /dev/XXX.
[02:52] <f00bar80> i installed lxde , so now what? should i reboot?
[02:52] <wilee-nilee> boeyc, To run the grub install you have to be in the installed OS or chrooted in. Is this a uefi installed W7?
[02:53] <boeyc> wilee-nilee, not sure what uefi is, but i had this copy of windows for 2 years now.
[02:53] <Ari-Yang> f00bar80, no...
[02:53] <Ari-Yang> just log out of your current session, in the login box there should be an icon
[02:53] <Ari-Yang> click on it and select LXDE from there
[02:53] <boeyc> wilee-nilee, all i did was use a ubuntu cd to install ubuntu...restarted the computer and now stuck ing this situation
[02:54] <wilee-nilee> boeyc, from where are you running  sudo grub-install /dev/XXX I am assuming the XXX is sda or something, and has to be run from the install or a chroot from the live cd.
[02:55] <boeyc> i run the live cd, and selected try ubuntu
[02:55] <boeyc> wilee-nilee, i run the live cd, and selected try ubuntu
[02:55] <Dr_Willis> boeyc:  you may want to try the boot-repair tool
[02:56] <Dr_Willis> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[02:56] <nerdtron> boeyc, run the live cd and install the boot-repair
[02:56] <wilee-nilee> boeyc, sudo grub-install /dev/XXX canj't just be run from the live cd without preparation the XXX is foo for the mbr as well, use the bootrepair as suggested
[02:57] <boeyc> the cd starts and just asks for try ubuntu or install ubuntu if i boot via cd?
[02:57] <nerdtron> boeyc, try ubuntu
[02:57] <Dr_Willis> you would select 'try' then follow the directions at the url given above
[02:57] <wilee-nilee> boeyc, Choose try and load the bootrepair at the desktop.
[02:57] <boeyc> ok
[02:57] <king-crimson> ubuntu 13.04 here :D
[02:57] <boeyc> thank you
[02:57] <nerdtron> when you are on the desktop, install the boot-repair utility from the link of Dr_Willis
[02:58] <fellayaboy> is their anyway to get facebook video chat working in ubuntu?
[02:58] <Dr_Willis> hopefully boot-repair will get on the default live cd - soon. ;)
[02:58] <Ari-Yang> f00bar80, did you see the message?
[02:59] <wilee-nilee> king-crimson, Thela Hun Gunjeet
[02:59] <lotuspsychje> fellayaboy: wich browser do you use?
[02:59] <wilee-nilee> Ginjeet*
[02:59] <king-crimson> exactly wilee!  I am having a Lark's Tongue in Aspic sammich right now! XD
[03:00] <fellayaboy> firefox
[03:00] <king-crimson> dang, suprised anyone remembers that band
[03:00] <wilee-nilee> king-crimson, Robert Fripp rules
[03:00] <king-crimson> oh hell yeah he does
[03:00] <gdoteof> i am trying to guarantee atomic writes to a named pipe; but am over the PIPE_BUF limit; is there a workaround other than using a lockfile?
[03:00] <king-crimson> all those boys are musician's musicians
[03:00] <lotuspsychje> fellayaboy: and what happens if you trying video chat?
[03:00] <king-crimson> Tony Levin plays the hell outta that Stick
[03:01] <pepper_chico> I've run boot repair, it was nice, but I needed to remove the Microsoft directory from the EFI directory, so the windows logo stopped to show up on rEFInd start up
[03:01] <fellayaboy> icon doesnt exist
[03:01] <fellayaboy> to start video chat... i looked into this and it seems the only way is through wine and using a web browser through wine
[03:01] <lotuspsychje> fellayaboy: you have flash working?
[03:01] <fellayaboy> yes
[03:02] <fellayaboy> i thought maybe their would be another form of a hack to get it working
[03:02] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/96668/how-can-i-do-facebook-video-calls
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> fellayaboy:  seems thats a  'no'
[03:03] <lotuspsychje> fellayaboy: maybe the #firefox guys know any handy addon?
[03:03] <fellayaboy> stupid propierty garbage
[03:03] <f00bar80> Ari-Yang, yes .. i did and worked thanks
[03:03] <fellayaboy> thanks guys
[03:03] <Dr_Willis> http://askubuntu.com/questions/52054/is-it-yet-possible-to-use-facebook-video-chat-without-a-vm  might have some leads
[03:03] <Ari-Yang> f00bar80, so everything is faster?
[03:04] <Dr_Willis> but running ie in wine.. is .. sicking ;)
[03:04] <guzzlefry> Is there a way to check which mods are currently enabled on apache?
[03:05] <guzzlefry> a2enmod allows me to enable them, but I have no clue how to list current ones.
[03:05] <Dr_Willis> fellayaboy:  thos video seems to show it can be done -> but its old --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8u49W2NmA-Y
[03:05] <king-crimson> i need to read up on wine.  have it installed but haven't messed with it much
[03:07] <Ari-Yang> king-1337, if you mean the program for using windows stuff... I installed it myself, fairly simple...but uninstalled it :|
[03:08] <overclucker> guzzlefry: ls /etc/apache2/mods-available
[03:09] <guzzlefry> ah, thanks
[03:09] <guzzlefry> I just realized that a2dismod might list them also. :P
[03:13] <f00bar80> Ari-Yang, yes thanks
[03:14] <Ari-Yang> f00bar80, you're welcome~
[03:19] <jlangberg> good evening
[03:22] <uronu> Hello guys, do you have any recommend reference for setting up squid web proxy?
[03:25] <cellulagee> hi folks i hope i'm at the right spot, I need help getting audio out of comp please.  Am I at the right place?
[03:26] <wilee-nilee> cellulagee, For ubuntu yes.
[03:26] <cellulagee> correct
[03:26] <clarence_> wilee-nilee, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6117675 seems like this didnt work.
[03:27] <cellulagee> I think it's the 13. version, I'm in terminal if  you know the command I can verify
[03:28] <cellulagee> This is my sitution, it did work until i installed nvidia GeForce 9800 GT.  Video card works but no sound
[03:28] <wilee-nilee> clarence_, /grldr in windows usually means pirated, however you have ubuntu in sdb try having it read first in the bios.
[03:30] <clarence_> wilee-nilee funny enough i have a real copy but the image is quicker to install when i did this when i was younger. thanks will try
[03:32] <shady_> Hi, I would like to add a shortcut to sweep between languages
[03:34] <cellulagee> wilee-nilee, can I pm u or something? if you can help or point me in the direction
[03:35] <lotuspsychje> shady_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/68127/how-to-switch-language-keyboard-combination
[03:36] <Ofek> hello every1
[03:37] <Ofek> any1 here ever used Whonix?
[03:37] <lotuspsychje> !proxy | uronu
[03:37] <jellow> Crontab does not seem to be running can some check to see if I've not messed up the commands http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6117717/
[03:37] <lotuspsychje> Ofek: just ask your issue on it mate
[03:37] <uronu> !squid
[03:37] <cellulagee> Where can i find help for fixing my sound on my ubuntu
[03:38] <Ofek> how do I edit rc.local using kwrite?
[03:38] <Ofek> ^as root
[03:38] <shady_> thank you
[03:39] <lotuspsychje> Ofek: sudo kwrite /ect/rc.local ?
[03:39] <cellulagee> Can anyone help with a video card issue?
[03:39] <Ofek> kwrite: cannot connect to X server :0
[03:40] <lotuspsychje> !patience | cellulagee
[03:40] <Ofek> lotuspsychje: kwrite: cannot connect to X server :0
[03:40] <jellow> Ofek: you should use kdesu , kdesu kwite /etc/rc.local
[03:41] <Ofek> lotuspsychje: Could not find the database of available applications, run update-command-not-found as root to fix this kdesu: command not found
[03:41] <al_la> Running 13.04; I'd like to upgrade my video driver to the latest radeon w/ opengl support proprietary or not.  I see xserver-xorg-video-radeon ... how do I check what video driver I'm using and upgrade?  Sorry for nooby question.
[03:41] <cellulagee> ubottu, thanks I been searching but havent found a result this is my last shot before I call some type of support for linux
[03:41] <cellulagee> thank though I'm new to this
[03:42] <cellulagee> ubottu, thats better than me, i'm just retarted
[03:42] <lotuspsychje> al_la: check software&updates last tab additional drivers
[03:42] <nuf0xx> exit
[03:42] <nuf0xx> oops
[03:43] <al_la> lotuspsychje: nothing listed for additional/proprietary drivers
[03:43] <cellulagee> GeForce 9800 GT help me please
[03:43] <Ofek> jellow: Could not find the database of available applications, run update-command-not-found as root to fix this kdesu: command not found
[03:44] <lotuspsychje> al_la: check your active driver with lshw -C video
[03:44] <jellow> Ofek: kdesu is not installed on your system , try with gksu kwrite /etc/rc.local
[03:45] <cellulagee> GeForce 9800 GT help me please
[03:45] <lotuspsychje> !repeat | cellulagee
[03:45] <cellulagee> GeForce 9800 GT help me please
[03:46] <cellulagee> my installed my video card but now i have no sound
[03:47] <cellulagee> lotuspysycheje can you pm me, i don't know how to do this
[03:48] <AcidRain2012> how can i find what all files are owned by a certain group?
[03:48] <lotuspsychje> cellulagee: you need to describe your problem as detailed as possible in chat, and be patient...
[03:48] <al_la> lotuspsychje: it accurately identifies radeon x1950 card but all I can find on which driver is: "configuration: driver=radeon"
[03:48] <AcidRain2012> i deleted a group: ftpusers. and now when i open terminal it says: groups: cannot find name for group ID 1002
[03:48] <lotuspsychje> al_la: yes radeon driver is installed for you then, got any errors with it?
[03:49] <cellulagee> lotusspycheje, thanks and I will do
[03:49] <al_la> lotuspsychje: problem w/ steam games and the linux drivers .. one possible fix was update or try using proprietary drivers
[03:49] <thephil> Gday all - ubuntu 13.04 64 here, trying to get nvidia-325 driver working - xorg says "no devices detected" - it's a 745M oblivion mobile card.
[03:50] <Ofek> jellow: No protocol specified  (gksu:4941): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0
[03:50] <lotuspsychje> !ati | al_la
[03:50] <cellulagee> I'm running ubuntu on my desktop, sound use to work.  I installed a nvidia GeForce 9800 GT graphic card.  Works but the only problem i have is there is no sound.  desktop to tv motinor via an hdmi cord
[03:51] <al_la> lotuspsychje: perfect, thank you for the help.  I have some more reading to do on this :)
[03:51] <lotuspsychje> al_la: you might indeed try the drivers from ati site, and disable the radeon one
[03:52] <lotuspsychje> cellulagee: no sound on ubuntu or no sound on your tv?
[03:52] <GlenK> hi.  so if I run apt-cache policy on a package, and see "precise-proposed" as opposed to something like "precise-updates", does that mean I have the wrong repos enabled?  And by wrong I mean something akin to fedora testing or whatever?
[03:53] <lotuspsychje> GlenK: whats the packagename?
[03:53] <Ofek> how do I edit rc.local using kwrite as root? kdesu says: Could not find the database of available applications, run update-command-not-found as root to fix this kdesu: command not found
[03:53] <cellulagee> lotuspsychje: well no sound from tv i'm assuming, the comp beeps when turns on but no sound from music, or anything of that sort
[03:53] <Ofek> gksu: No protocol specified  (gksu:4941): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0
[03:54] <lotuspsychje> cellulagee: you bought the correct hdmi cable?? some cable version dont have sound
[03:54] <GlenK> lotuspsychje: linux-image
[03:55] <GlenK> lotuspsychje: far as I can tell, the kernel
[03:55] <lotuspsychje> Ofek: what dont you just gedit or nano edit the file?
[03:55] <Ofek> command?
[03:56] <lotuspsychje> Ofek: sudo gedit yourfilename
[03:56] <cellulagee> lotuspsychje: good question and I did not know that, how do verify and also is there a way to use the sound from the motherboard and not the video card.
[03:56] <Skipp_OSX> so, Gabe Newell seems to think that Linux is the future of gaming...
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> cellulagee: well this isnt an ubuntu related question, try ##hardware channel
[03:57] <cellulagee> lotuspsychje:  I have the headphone type cord into my tv, but even with headphones there is still no sound
[03:57] <Skipp_OSX> Now, I get the argument that companies like Steam, Blizzard, Activision are used to Linux for their backends
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> !ot | Skipp_OSX
[03:57] <cellulagee> lotuspsychje: thanks for the right direction
[03:57] <lotuspsychje> np
[03:57] <Skipp_OSX> gotcha, support channel...
[03:58] <Ofek> jesus gedit is 71mb?
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> !info gedit
[03:58] <jellow> lotuspsychje: don't run X apps with sudo
[03:58] <qin> Ofek: Are you trying to download gedit?
[03:58] <lotuspsychje> Ofek: maybe start reading a bit of basic ubuntu commands mate
[03:59] <Ofek> apt-get install gedit said 71.5mb
[03:59] <qin> Ofek: do you have ubuntu with no gedit?
[03:59] <Ofek> Whonix
[04:00] <Ofek> using Whonix
[04:00] <qin> bummer, you have nano?
[04:00] <Ari-Yang> al_la, I do not recommend installing the driver from ATI's site... too risky. you should install it from ubuntu's repos instead.
[04:00] <Ari-Yang> you can select it from 'Additional Drivers' tab from software sources
[04:00] <al_la> lotuspsychje Ari-Yang:in installing the fglrx proprietary driver, is it really as easy as just cmd line installing that package from the repo? If I remove this, will ubuntu default back to the radeon open source driver?  the help file (https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI) is not too helpful
[04:01] <qin> Ofek: /topic may enrich you with knoledge that it is Ubuntu support.
[04:01] <Ofek> omg nano worked!
[04:01] <al_la> flotuspsychje Ari-Yang: in fact, I don't even see fglrx-installer as a package as the site mentions
[04:01] <Ari-Yang> al_la, in terminal type apt-cache search fglrx-amdcccle
[04:02] <Ari-Yang> al_la, you most likely aren't reading carefully, I used that page to install fglrx myself.
[04:02] <Ari-Yang> al_la, so what do you get after searching for fglrx-amdcccle in terminal?
[04:02] <Ari-Yang> if you see fglrx-amdcccle or fglrx-amdcccle pick either one, and install it with sudo apt-get install
[04:03] <Ari-Yang> al_la, I'm warning you, fglrx may cause problems for you :|
[04:03] <al_la> Ari-Yang: I see fglrx-amdcccle for the catalyst control center.  the website just lists 'fglrx-installer' which I couldn't find.  Does ubuntu gracefully roll back to radeon driver if I purge fglrx-amdcccle after experimenting?
[04:04] <Ofek> last question, what is the nano command to save? ^WriteOut    ?
[04:04] <qin> Ofek: heeh
[04:04] <Ari-Yang> al_la, you can simply select the open source radeon and apply changes in 'Additional Drivers' from software sources
[04:04] <qin> Ofek: ctrl-x
[04:04] <Ari-Yang> al_la, do it from there..
[04:04] <al_la> Ari-Yang: ah, perfect, thanks for the help
[04:04] <Ofek> ^x says exit
[04:05] <Ari-Yang> al_la, you're welcome, lets say if you do go back to the open source radeon and apply changes, run sudo apt-get purge flgrx* then proceed with rebooting.
[04:05] <qin> Ofek: Ubuntu with tor may get you some support, help, same disrto, Whonix will not
[04:05] <Ari-Yang> al_la, what card do you have?
[04:05] <Ari-Yang> gpu
[04:05] <al_la> Ari-Yang: radeon x1950
[04:06] <qin> Ofek: Confirm exit? Y
[04:06] <Ofek> ah ty
[04:06] <Ari-Yang> al_la, oh okay... You might actually be fine with fglrx then... good luck
[04:07] <al_la> Ari-Yang: will find out soon, I'm off to experiment!  Thanks again for the help.
[04:07] <Ari-Yang> al_la, okay, come back here to tell if it worked out or not
[04:08] <cellulagee> ? for everyone, what chat room for ubuntu hardware can I find it?
[04:08] <cellulagee> I found one but it deals with everything os not just linux or ubuntu
[04:10] <Ari-Yang> cellulagee, for general hardware related questions, there is #hardware
[04:10] <wilee-nilee> cellulagee, I don't think there is a linux/ubuntu hardware channel, however there are ubuntu wiki's on hardware and computers that are certified.
[04:10] <wilee-nilee> cellulagee, And on cards...etc
[04:14] <Yowl> When in octobor do they usually actually release ubuntu .10?
[04:16] <somsip_> Yowl: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/05/ubuntu-13-10-release-schedule
[04:16] <cellulagee> wilee-nilee: how can i contact someone certified?
[04:17] <GlenK> so anyone?  if I'm seeing "precise-proposed/main" in a package description from apt-cache policy, that means development repos are enabled maybe?  reason I ask, I'm seeing a 3.5 kernel on this 12.04 LTS box.
[04:17] <wilee-nilee> cellulagee, It's computers certified to run ubuntu, you can pay ubuntu for help if you look on their website.
[04:19] <cellulagee> thank you guys for your time and patience
[04:20] <dhyana> Hm
[04:23] <UserError> You guys realize that software-properties could easily be made into a bash script right?
[04:24] <UserError> I'm looking through this code wondering why the hell it was written in python
[04:24] <UserError> pulling in all those deps no wonder 2.7 is still in 3.10
[04:24] <reisio> UserError: most would argue that python is hugely more maintainable
[04:24] <reisio> and promotes collaboration and development in general :)
[04:24] <reisio> anything _could_ be a bash script
[04:25] <UserError> Most would argue that it's pretty simple and broken already
[04:25] <reisio> or any other language
[04:25] <UserError> So the benefits are only a theory
[04:25] <reisio> so fix it
[04:25] <reisio> no the benefits are proven
[04:25] <reisio> :D
[04:25] <UserError> bloat
[04:25] <UserError> is
[04:25] <UserError> proven
[04:25] <tucemiux> !nvidia
[04:30] <jellow> Crontab does not seem to be running can some check to see if I've not messed up the commands http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6117717/
[04:33] <qin> UserError: https://launchpad.net/~mvo thats maintainer to whine to
[04:34] <chiques> It never fails, tried to install Nvidia drivers on my new 64 bit install , rebooted and booted into a Kernel Panic Error
[04:34] <Ofek_> is the a command to install pkgsrc on linux or must I dl it directly 1st?
[04:35] <Ofek_> ^there
[04:35] <qin> Ofek_: You swapped to Ubuntu already?
[04:35] <Ofek_> no lol
[04:35] <Ofek_> still Whonix
[04:37] <xmetal> at the risk of being OT ... i think "whonix" sounds like the Dr. Seuss distro of Linux
[04:37] <Ofek_> to get latest versions of proxychains one must use pkgsrc framework
[04:37] <Ofek_> I've read at least
[04:38] <tucemiux> chiques, oh no!  what card do you have ?
[04:38] <Ofek_> any of u ever use pkgsrc?
[04:39] <chiques> tucemiux, Onboard Nvidia
[04:39] <reisio> xmetal: ooh, need one of those
[04:39] <reisio> green eggs and unix
[04:39] <oaulakh> anyone know to braek ubuntu passwd
[04:39] <qin> Ofek_: Dude, Ubuntu! Whonix have notting to do with Ubuntu, and neither was designed to be used by "freshmeat" nor to install with pkgsrc (I guess)
[04:40] <chiques> tucemiux, I don't know how to boot into my partition so I am installing another partition
[04:40] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh, You still working on the forgotten one replacement?
[04:40] <tucemiux> chiques, ive never had a problem with onboard nvidia but I have a GTX 660 that kept hosing my distro, I just installed the drivers and about to reboot :-(
[04:40] <oaulakh> yeahhh
[04:40] <tucemiux> chiques, what do you mean can't boot into your partition?  you can't boot at all to fix the video drivers?
[04:40] <oaulakh> its not working still bro
[04:41] <chiques> tucemiux, I get passed Grub but then it gets stuck in a Kernel Panic prompt
[04:41] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh, Follow this link and ask any specific questions needed. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[04:41] <oaulakh> can you guide me exact
[04:42] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh, The instructions are pretty straight forward I will work with you yes, however you have to try. ;)
[04:42] <oaulakh> i will bro
[04:42] <oaulakh> please help
[04:43] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh, You have the link open so you can look at it while you reboot the computer you are trying to fix?
[04:44] <wilee-nilee> with a smart phone or another computer...etc
[04:45] <Ofek_> qin: pkgsrc can be used on like every unix distro
[04:45] <Ofek_> just never tried before
[04:45] <qin> Ofek_: good luck.
[04:46] <Ofek_> qin: have u used it?
[04:47] <qin> Ofek_: Why would I do it on linux?
[04:47] <oaulakh_> so what should i do
[04:48] <Ofek_> many packages are maintained on there
[04:49] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh_, First read my questions and answer them, is english your main language?
[04:49] <jim> help
[04:49] <wilee-nilee> we have to be able to communicate oaulakh_
[04:49] <bjrohan> I have been having problems with fonts in FireFox. In going through the fonts in the Prefrences section it appears that Arial font is the culprit as selecting it gives me the issue, where others do not. How do I replace this Arial with one that works?
[04:49] <oaulakh_> yeah english is my main
[04:50] <bjrohan>  Is it in my home dir, the usr share ?
[04:50] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh_, Can you answer questions, I am not much for exact instructions unless you have a question, and you have to be able to answer mine.
[04:51] <Guest99499> help
[04:51] <oaulakh_> can we chat later
[04:51] <wilee-nilee> !help | Guest99499
[04:51] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh_, Okay, good luck, that link makes it pretty straight forward..
[04:52] <Guest99499> how do i change channels in xchat-gnome irc chat
[04:52] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh_, this link. http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/resetpassword
[04:52] <oaulakh_> bjrohn just select unicode utf-8
[04:53] <wilee-nilee> Guest99499, /join #channel
[04:53] <reisio> Guest99499: CTRL+pgup/dn, ALT+#, /join #foo
[04:53] <oaulakh_> its not working in that way
[04:53] <Electrobuz> or server>>join chanel
[04:53] <jim_> pimpcell
[04:54] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh_, You have to be able to in detail describe that problem is all.
[04:54] <jim__> hi
[04:54] <Electrobuz> hi
[04:54] <jim__> awesome i need help with my video card
[04:54] <jim__> can anyone help with it or point me in the direction
[04:55] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh_, Are you sure it is your password that is the problem, do you really not know it, and have you set a root password per-chance?
[04:55] <Electrobuz> what is your problem?
[04:56] <jim__> i installed the nvidia GeForce 9800 GT on my ubuntu version 13.  There is no sound, i think the sound is being routed somewhere is but i don't know how to fix it
[04:56] <oaulakh_> seee you later wille nilee
[04:56] <jim__> I have to no sound at all coming from my comp, headphones, the jack in the back
[04:56] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh_, I can see I wont be able to help you so best of luck. ;)
[04:59] <qin> !sound | jim__
[04:59] <qin> ..the jack in the back
[04:59] <Electrobuz> Output is important
[05:00] <Electrobuz> see what hardware is activate
[05:00] <wilee-nilee> !who | Electrobuz
[05:01] <cpu1> Ubuntu is throttleing my cpu, Do any of you know where I can find the new shell script that replaced "echo performance > /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor"
[05:02] <Yowl> How do you know it's ubuntu throttling your CPU, rather then just not needing that much CPU?
[05:04] <cpu1> Because I have it overclocked and overvoltaged but conky is showing me running at stock speeds, also it taking too long to encode videos
[05:06] <wilee-nilee> Yowl, Rather than having a conclusion in your question you might describe the problem in detail.
[05:06] <cpu1> The shell script that fixed this on Ubuntu 8.10 no longer works and I am not sure where to find an updated shell script
[05:08] <qin> cpu1:  "echo > performance..." did not work?
[05:09] <cpu1> no It is still showing me at stock speeds
[05:10] <qin> cpu1: and value of scaling_governor is performance?
[05:11] <cpu1> qin I am not sure what you are asking?
[05:11] <kenneth> poo
[05:12] <qin> cpu1: cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor
[05:12] <cpu1> My cpu was clocked at 4.7ghz and every test I perform in Ubuntu shows me running at 3.5ghz
[05:16] <cpu1> qin Thank you for your help
[05:17] <shepherdshift1> hello... anyone available to help with a boot problem on an acer aspire one running ubuntu 12.4 ?
[05:17] <cfhowlett> !details|shepherdshift1,
[05:18] <Yowl> wilee-nilee: I was asking "cpu1" about his problem
[05:18] <PN2> hi anyone give information about cronjob
[05:19] <Yowl> cpu1: You mean that is the speed the CPU is rated at, are you sure it's not a bios issue?
[05:20] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys whats the proper way of mounting something thats a portable hard drive in lets say /media
[05:20] <Psil0Cybin> so when i want to mount id do
[05:20] <Psil0Cybin> sudo mount /media/Area51 (name of my drive)
[05:20] <Psil0Cybin> and when i want to unmount i do
[05:20] <Psil0Cybin> sudo umount
[05:20] <Psil0Cybin> ?
[05:20] <Yowl> You can just right click it
[05:20] <TradeFortress> got a web server
[05:20] <TradeFortress> "  => / is using 86.9% of 21.17GB
[05:20] <TradeFortress> "
[05:20] <Yowl> to unmount
[05:21] <Yowl> And often they automount when you put em in
[05:21] <TradeFortress> du --max-depth=1 -h /, shows that / is using 19G..
[05:21] <Psil0Cybin> i was playing around with samba, and it made it auto mount my drive, so i had to in config change it to noautomount or what ever for samba and because of that
[05:21] <Psil0Cybin> it does not mount my drive properly automatically
[05:21] <Psil0Cybin> it says i must be root to mount
[05:21] <Yowl> Psil0Cybin: But sudo unmount won't work because it needs a specificationof what drive to unmount
[05:22] <Psil0Cybin> Yowl can i find out what file is making my drive not auto mount like before
[05:22] <Yowl> Psil0Cybin: Then you have a problem, and it's not the command you are using
[05:22] <Psil0Cybin> and cause these problems
[05:23] <cpu1> Yowl It may be a bios issue, I because /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq does not exists, I just read in the forums have a list reasons (If it does not exist, you may need to go to the BIOS and turn on EIST and any other C and P state control and visibility)
[05:23] <Yowl> well focus on whats causing the the root issue, then auto might work itself out.
[05:24] <cpu1> Thanks guys for your help
[05:24] <wilee-nilee> Yowl, Ah, hard to tell without a nick, some users get ignores here so we do not see all posts.
[05:25] <shepherdshift1> thank you.  ubuntu is boots bios then goes either to purple screen, black screen (sometimes with blinking cursor, sometimes without), then hangs.  REISUB was not working, had to power cycle.  i booted from a livecd and ran e2fsk on dev/sda, it gave an output i couldnt read before it logged me out and froze.  i went into tty, logged in, rebooted to livecd again.  went into gparted... and my sda dev was not there.  ran fdisk -l..
[05:25] <Psil0Cybin> yowl
[05:25] <Yowl> Psil0Cybin: Maybe ask wilee about your root issue
[05:25] <Psil0Cybin> i get this problem
[05:25] <Psil0Cybin> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with:
[05:25] <Psil0Cybin> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdb1 is already mounted on /media/Area51
[05:25] <Psil0Cybin> mount failed
[05:25] <Psil0Cybin> .
[05:25] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:25] <Yowl> Psil0Cybin: Then maybe it's already mounted...
[05:25] <Psil0Cybin> but it wont let me see it through the file manager
[05:25] <Psil0Cybin> thats what i get when i click on the drive.
[05:26] <Yowl> Psil0Cybin: Go to media/area51 and look for it
[05:26] <Yowl> ah
[05:26] <Psil0Cybin> empty
[05:26] <Yowl> now I see why you wanted a unmount command
[05:26] <jinzougen> for for any cross-posting, but #kubuntu seems kind of quiet. I'm trying to get ibus working for hangul input in kubuntu 13.04. but I'm having lots of problems, can someone help?
[05:26] <Yowl> Psil0Cybin: And the drive you are trying to mount isn't empty/blank?
[05:27] <Psil0Cybin> is not
[05:28] <Psil0Cybin> Yowl
[05:28] <Psil0Cybin> like i have to type
[05:28] <Psil0Cybin> sudo mount /media/Area51
[05:28] <Psil0Cybin> to view my drive
[05:28] <Psil0Cybin> and then i want to know how to unmount it because it does not work from the icon
[05:29] <overclucker> sudo umount /media/Area51
[05:29] <Yowl> yeah of course
[05:29] <Yowl> it seems its mounted under special permission restriction
[05:29] <Yowl> Psil0Cybin: So did overclucks command work?
[05:30] <Psil0Cybin> yea that worked
[05:30] <Psil0Cybin> sudo umount
[05:30] <Psil0Cybin> how can i fix this though so i can do what i did before
[05:30] <Psil0Cybin> like eject by icon
[05:30] <Yowl> well it should automount like normal next boot would be my guess
[05:30] <wilee-nilee> shepherdshift1, sda dev? sda is the HD
[05:31] <shepherdshift1> yes
[05:31] <Yowl> and ejectable by icon
[05:31] <Yowl> after mounted
[05:31] <Yowl> So just mount it where you want it, but don't use sudo
[05:31] <wilee-nilee> shepherdshift1, can you elaborate on that dev would e in a partition
[05:31] <wilee-nilee> be*
[05:32] <wilee-nilee> shepherdshift1, Is gparted showing unallocated?
[05:33] <shepherdshift1> uh.. im not sure
[05:33] <Yowl> Psil0Cybin: Are you good now?
[05:33] <wilee-nilee> shepherdshift1, is sda dev short for a OS?
[05:33] <shepherdshift1> no its the hard drive
[05:34] <wilee-nilee> shepherdshift1, So is the HD not showing?
[05:34] <shepherdshift1> correct
[05:34] <wilee-nilee> shepherdshift1, Ah, have you tried unplugging it the back in, was it failing?
[05:34] <wilee-nilee> then*
[05:34] <shepherdshift1> its an internal drive in a netbook
[05:35] <wilee-nilee> shepherdshift1, This is gparted from a live cd?
[05:35] <shepherdshift1> its the boot drive
[05:35] <shepherdshift1> yes
[05:35] <wilee-nilee> shepherdshift1, On all my netbooks and laptops it is 2 screws to access
[05:36] <shepherdshift1> ok.. i'm on the live cd right now... ill have to log off and back in again
[05:36] <Psil0Cybin> but when i unplug Yowl
[05:36] <Psil0Cybin> and plug the portable hard drive back
[05:36] <Psil0Cybin> i have the same problem
[05:36] <Psil0Cybin> i does not auto mount
[05:36] <Psil0Cybin> it shows the drive but its grey out
[05:36] <Psil0Cybin> and i get that same error message.
[05:36] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:36] <Psil0Cybin> when i click on it through the file maanger.
[05:37] <shepherdshift1> back in a bit for an update
[05:37] <wilee-nilee> cool
[05:37] <Yowl> Psil0Cybin: So it's automounting with sudo restriction. Do sudo unmount media/area51 then mount media/area51 please
[05:38] <Psil0Cybin> says unmount command not found
[05:38] <Psil0Cybin> so then umount
[05:38] <Yowl> That way you unmount it, then mount it back in without sudo, and without sudo, hopefully it will be regularly accessible through file manager
[05:38] <Psil0Cybin> okay i did sudo umount
[05:38] <Psil0Cybin> now
[05:39] <Psil0Cybin> now
[05:39] <Psil0Cybin> after i mounted it though on the file manager the eject icon disappeared
[05:39] <Yowl> so its mounted now, and you can access it now?
[05:39] <Psil0Cybin> yes
[05:39] <Psil0Cybin> i can access it
[05:39] <Yowl> cool
[05:39] <Psil0Cybin> but i cannot eject it normally
[05:40] <Psil0Cybin> like i would usually with an eject icon on the side
[05:40] <Yowl> Maybe some funky software from the external drives causing this issue
[05:40] <Yowl> But I don't believe it would be too risky just to pull it out without unmounting
[05:40] <Yowl> as long as its not being used at the time
[05:41] <Yowl> But I am no expert, so you might ask someone else
[05:41] <Yowl> can you unmount it with command?
[05:41] <overclucker> Psil0Cybin: also your answer might be somewhere in here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Mount/USB
[05:42] <Psil0Cybin> Yowl, i pulled it out and plugged it back in and im ahving the same issue the drive appeared (grey outed) and i cannot view it it says i have to be root to mount
[05:42] <Psil0Cybin> so now im forced to run those commands again.
[05:42] <Yowl> Well my guess would be firmware or software problems of the HDD
[05:43] <Yowl> probably not meant to run with linux like so many things
[05:43] <Yowl> But you might check their website for stuff
[05:43] <Yowl> or call the company tech support line (probably won't be useful, but worth a try)
[05:44] <overclucker> Psil0Cybin: the article link I sent you should have all you need to know to have to get the disk to automount when plugged in
[05:44] <Yowl> Otherwise just get use to running the commands, have them ready in a file, like notpad or something
[05:44] <Psil0Cybin> im looking @it overclucker
[05:44] <Psil0Cybin> thanks let me get back to you guys
[05:45] <Yowl> well sounds like overclucker knows more, so I will leave you to it
[05:45] <overclucker> Psil0Cybin: what mode is the partition mounted as when you type 'mount' in console?
[05:45] <Psil0Cybin> how can i find otu
[05:45] <Psil0Cybin> mount /media/Area51
[05:45] <Psil0Cybin> ?
[05:45] <overclucker> Psil0Cybin: just mount by itself
[05:45] <Yowl> definitely not
[05:46] <overclucker> no arguments
[05:46] <Psil0Cybin> overclucker ?
[05:46] <Psil0Cybin> i get
[05:46] <Psil0Cybin> Error mounting: mount exited with exit code 1: helper failed with:
[05:46] <Psil0Cybin> mount: according to mtab, /dev/sdc1 is already mounted on /media/Area51
[05:46] <Psil0Cybin> mount failed
[05:46] <Psil0Cybin> .
[05:46] <Psil0Cybin> when i plug it in and try to access it.
[05:47] <overclucker> Psil0Cybin: I mean only type 'mount' <ENTER> with no arguments
[05:47] <Psil0Cybin> /dev/sdc1 on /media/Area51 type fuseblk (rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,blksize=4096)
[05:48] <Yowl> heh, I thought you were telling us not to argue : - p
[05:49] <overclucker> Yowl: erm
[05:49] <Psil0Cybin> the problem is i installed samba and tried to get samba to share the hard drive instead when i turned off the laptop i got it always trying to MOUNT it even if the drive is not plugged in so someone here told me to type in a command to stop auto mounting it
[05:49] <Psil0Cybin> im wondering if i can delete some file and it will let it auto mount
[05:49] <Psil0Cybin> or treat it like an unfamiliour drive
[05:49] <Psil0Cybin> like it used too
[05:51] <overclucker> Psil0Cybin: when does it automount? only on boot?
[05:51] <Yowl> seems when plugged in
[05:52] <Yowl> Psil0Cybin: What is samba for?
[05:53] <Psil0Cybin> overclucker, it used to automount on boot before!! and i set some option to turn that off
[05:54] <Psil0Cybin> and now i noticed it did this
[05:54] <Psil0Cybin> but i cannot figure out what otpion i changed
[05:54] <nechko> hey guys, i was wondering is adding discard, noatime, nodiratime enough to spare SSD life and enable TRIM ?
[05:54] <nechko> adding to fstab
[05:55] <reisio> it's weird how the people who can afford SSDs are so worried about their lifespans
[05:55] <nechko> haha :)
[05:55] <nechko> well its not like i bought it easy
[05:55] <nechko> :D
[05:55] <reisio> it's also weird how they make SSDs larger than 30GB, though
[05:56] <reisio> or rather, how ones only 30GB are so hard to get
[05:56] <cfhowlett> nechko, agree with reisio.  set up a regular image cloning / backup system and go on about your day.  Like HDD's, SSD's will fail.  No magic bullet will prevent it, so plan ahead.
[05:56] <reisio> well just put the OS on the SSD
[05:56] <Psil0Cybin> sigh
[05:56] <Psil0Cybin> maybe
[05:56] <Psil0Cybin> there is a file
[05:56] <reisio> it's all backed up in a million distro mirrors already
[05:56] <Psil0Cybin> somewhere that sets settings for each mount?
[05:56] <overclucker> Psil0Cybin: did you add an entry to /etc/fstab ?
[05:56] <Psil0Cybin> perhaps
[05:56] <Psil0Cybin> that looks familiour
[05:56] <reisio> anyways, this isn't the place to talk about SSD magic
[05:56] <reisio> try ##linux
[05:56] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:56] <overclucker> Psil0Cybin: there is always a file
[05:56] <nechko> ok
[05:56] <nechko> sorry
[05:56] <Psil0Cybin> UUID=F8DA5A90DA5A4B50	/media/Area51	ntfs-3g	defaults,nosuid,nodev,noauto,locale=en_CA.UTF-8	0	0
[05:56] <Psil0Cybin> #Entry for /dev/sda5 :
[05:57] <reisio> just saying :p
[05:57] <Psil0Cybin> overclucker
[05:57] <Psil0Cybin> can i remove everything to do with that media entry
[05:57] <Psil0Cybin> and let it go back to default?
[05:57] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:57] <reisio> nechko: there are a number of exhaustive resources on ssd usage with unix systems online
[05:57] <Psil0Cybin> its
[05:57] <Psil0Cybin> noauto
[05:57] <Psil0Cybin> that i put to stop it from mounting on boot
[05:57] <nechko> anyway thank you reisio :)
[05:57] <Psil0Cybin> or
[05:57] <Psil0Cybin> nosuid
[05:57] <Psil0Cybin> i forget lemme check
[05:58] <nechko> yeah i've read them all i believe but just wanted to check if some of you got some secret tip :) gandalf type wizardry :D reisio
[05:58] <overclucker> Psil0Cybin: if you want it to mount on boot, change noauto to auto
[05:58] <nechko> :D
[05:58] <Psil0Cybin> but
[05:58] <Psil0Cybin> if i want it to mount
[05:58] <Psil0Cybin> normally
[05:58] <Psil0Cybin> when i plug it in
[05:58] <Psil0Cybin> without it causing errors
[05:58] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:59] <Psil0Cybin> fixed it
[05:59] <Psil0Cybin> overclucker,
[05:59] <Psil0Cybin> removed UUID=F8DA5A90DA5A4B50	/media/Area51	ntfs-3g	defaults,nosuid,nodev,noauto,locale=en_CA.UTF-8	0	0
[05:59] <Psil0Cybin> #Entry for /dev/sda5 :
[05:59] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:01] <UbberJedi> 13.04 is stable?
[06:01] <cfhowlett> UbberJedi, yes.
[06:01] <UbberJedi> ok
[06:01] <cfhowlett> UbberJedi, every ubuntu release is "stable" or it doesn't get released.
[06:02] <UbberJedi> oki
[06:03] <BostonSounds> It's not a LTS, just keep that in mind :)
[06:06] <dkk> LTS is supporting for what? bugs?
[06:06] <cfhowlett> !lts|dkk,
[06:06] <BostonSounds> Indeed
[06:07] <UbberJedi> wow
[06:07] <dkk> i mean say raring 13.04. if in 2015, there will be no support for update? bug fix?
[06:08] <cfhowlett> dkk,  read more.  LTS releases have 5 year support spans.  NON LTS do not.
[06:08] <cfhowlett> dkk,  you choose between 9 months of support and  5 year support.  Your move.
[06:09] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[06:09] <sky__> ?
[06:09] <sky__> so many people quit?
[06:10] <cfhowlett> sky__, your ubuntu question?
[06:10] <dkk> cfhowlett: yeah, thanks i think 1304 is not lts. and my question is "support" means QNA like in IRC or there'll be no update in aptitude?
[06:10] <cfhowlett> dkk,  no support = NO support.
[06:11] <dkk> cfhowlett: :)
[06:11] <cfhowlett> dkk, personally, I use LTS only and upgrade every 2 years.  unless you absolutely MUST have the latest, greatest shiny version ...
[06:11] <xmetal> sort of the same here
[06:11] <xmetal> i upgrade "every few versions'
[06:11] <dkk> cfhowlett: cool, thanks
[06:11] <Wug> did freenode just rip a huge fart
[06:13] <Wug> looks like cameron.freenode.net died?
[06:13] <Wug> or something
[06:13] <cfhowlett> Wug, well, you're on freenode now.  Have you an actual ubuntu support question?
[06:13] <Wug> cfhowlett: aside from the usual stuff no
[06:16] <jnhghy> I wanted to create an icon for a py script, so I've made a copy of chrome shortcut(haven't realised it is the shortcut that I'm copying) and edited it's command, the issue, I lost the shortcut for chrome, if I go to terminal and hit google-chrome it works so I placed this command in the icon and it works but is there a way to get the location of a terminal command? so I can give the icon the proper command?
[06:17] <cfhowlett> jnhghy, right click, view properties?
[06:17] <jnhghy> cfhowlett: those are the lines I modified...
[06:17] <Psil0Cybin> question guys
[06:18] <Psil0Cybin> overclucker,
[06:18] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[06:18] <Psil0Cybin> wow
[06:18] <jnhghy> cfhowlett: I get only my edits... I was hoping there is a way of getting the location of the terminal command behind "google-chrome"
[06:18] <Psil0Cybin> wowowowoow
[06:19] <Psil0Cybin> question overclucker if i unmount a drive but its stiill shown up in the file manager but in grey with no files inside of it
[06:19] <Psil0Cybin> is it fine to take the usb out?
[06:20] <cfhowlett> jnhghy, sorry  I don't know.  perhaps the #chrome chanel?
[06:20] <cfhowlett> channel?
[06:21] <jnhghy> cfhowlett: for sure it is an ubuntu thing... lets say htop...is a terminal command that points to a file holding the htop program... is there a command to find it's path...?
[06:21] <jnhghy> cfhowlett:thank you for your time :)
[06:22] <overclucker> Psil0Cybin: If it is unmounted, then yes.
[06:22] <jay_> lol
[06:22] <Psil0Cybin> alright just usally whne its unmounted it disappears by its self
[06:22] <Psil0Cybin> this is the first drive that is still there but greyed out
[06:23] <overclucker> jnhghy: which htop
[06:23] <tabernaclfiasco> hiiiiii anyone   is it possible for a ubunutu installation from windows box with a virus to be comprimised
[06:23] <cfhowlett> tabernaclfiasco, via email perhaps.  rare indeed.
[06:23] <aeon-ltd> jnhghy: it'll prob be in /usr/bin/
[06:23] <jnhghy> overclucker: I'm looking for a command that gives the path to a command in terminal, htop is only an example, I'm trying realpath now.
[06:24] <jay_>  /SET nicklist_width 161
[06:24] <overclucker> jnhghy: which
[06:24] <jnhghy> aeon-ltd: if realpath is a no go... I'll check there...
[06:24] <tabernaclfiasco> email wha
[06:24] <cfhowlett> !virus|tabernaclfiasco,
[06:24] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[06:25] <cfhowlett> tabernaclfiasco, so you're asking if a wubi installation could get infected via windows?
[06:25] <SuperLag> I hosed GRUB on my system, and I'm trying to fix it, and I know /dev/sda1 was my bootable partition before. But when I do "grub-install /dev/sda1" it says: Path `/boot/grub' is not readable by GRUB on boot. Installation is impossible. Aborting.
[06:25] <tabernaclfiasco> no infeted but the installing modified in some way where i will be vulnerable , like exploited oms ehow
[06:25] <SuperLag> I'm not sure *why* I'm getting that message.
[06:26] <cfhowlett> tabernaclfiasco so you have a dual boot of windows and ubuntu, right?
[06:26] <reisio> of course if 'which' can give you the path, then just using the command itself without a path would work
[06:26] <jnhghy> aeon-ltd: there it was...  thank you
[06:27] <cfhowlett> !cookie|reisio,
[06:27] <reisio> mmm, oatmeal raisin
[06:27] <SuperLag> /boot/grub is set to 755, so I'm not sure *why* it says it's not readable.
[06:27] <jay_> lol
[06:28] <jnhghy> lol.... reisio: I haven't understood until now that "which" was the command I had to try ... sorry :)
[06:28] <tabernaclfiasco> not yet. i would like to install a dual boot right now, but if i do that now through my win8 operating system, im wonder if that opens a opportunity for a windows virus(if i had a virus) to manipulate the ubuntu installation to exploit me
[06:28] <reisio> SuperLag: what says what now?
[06:28] <tabernaclfiasco> however a ubunutu system may be controlled or exploited which im sure could be completely taking control of my box remotely
[06:28] <reisio> tabernaclfiasco: technically, sure, but there is no history of that
[06:29] <jay_> hmm
[06:29] <reisio> tabernaclfiasco: if you're worried about things like that, just set up an intrusion detection system
[06:29] <overclucker> jnhghy: if it isn't a command in your PATH try 'locate' or 'find'
[06:29] <reisio> they keep track of your system, and make unsanctioned changes obvious
[06:29] <reisio> and easy to revert
[06:29] <cfhowlett> tabernaclfiasco, if you're running windows, you're NOT running ubuntu.  No opportunity (at present, so far as I know, no documented cases, et cetera, disclaimers) of infecting a NON-running system
[06:30] <tabernaclfiasco> lol
[06:30] <reisio> plenty of opportunity, but no documented cases I've heard of
[06:30] <tabernaclfiasco> reisio thanks just curious of the possibility
[06:30] <reisio> tabernaclfiasco: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OSSEC
[06:30] <reisio> integrity checking, that's the ticket
[06:30] <reisio> know what you have, and whether it's been altered
[06:31] <UserError> Here's a pretty cool trick I learned from a PhD. Take the cat5 cable out and you're fine.
[06:31] <reisio> then you won't ever need to worry again
[06:31] <reisio> UserError: heh
[06:31] <Johnny-Linux> dont be paranoid, just worry about it
[06:31] <aeon-ltd> UserError: you some kinda genius or somethin'?
[06:31] <tabernaclfiasco> yeah lulz
[06:32] <tabernaclfiasco> lulzy
[06:32] <UserError> Apparently.
[06:32] <qin> UserError: Your PhD dunno wifi?
[06:33] <overclucker> tabernaclfiasco: are windows users using WUBI even a profitable target?
[06:33] <Dragin> Can someone please look at this and tell me how to unscrew myself, or even if it is possible to unscrew myself? =( http://pastebin.com/3ap3T3Lj
[06:33] <UserError> qin, Do you often put a wifi card in a desktop?
[06:33] <UserError> as opposed to having a nice gigabit ethernet connection
[06:33] <qin> UserError: Yes, to know my hood better ;)
[06:33] <jnhghy> does anybody have an google-chrome icon on desktop? can you please right click and copy the command line? my icon starts chrome but doesn't pass link (for example if I click a link in thunderbird it doesn't take me to that link, only opens chrome)
[06:34] <aeon-ltd> Dragin: why do you have a var/www in your home?
[06:34] <ookuz> hi guys, what's best practice for removing drivers (e.g. nvidia proprietary graphics drivers)?
[06:34] <Dragin> hmmm... perhaps I am not screwed thou sayest to me? =)
[06:34] <UserError> ookuz, you can't in stock ubuntu, you have to reinstall and target only your specific driver with --no-install-recommends
[06:34] <overclucker> Dragin: you aren't using chown properly, and are you sure you know the path you are trying to chown?
[06:35] <Dragin> rechecking
[06:35] <Dragin> thanks
[06:35] <aeon-ltd> Dragin: ~ short for your home, if you're trying to host something in www then /var/www shouldn't be there
[06:35] <Dragin> btw... It is obvious even to me I screwed up the chown lol
[06:35] <Dragin> gotcha
[06:36] <Dragin> should just be /var/www, correct?
[06:36] <overclucker> Dragin: yes
[06:36] <Dragin> thanks guys.... err... girls? err... thanks =)
[06:37] <aeon-ltd> Dragin: i'm a talkin dog
[06:38] <overclucker> Dragin: also, the contents of /var/www are usually owned be the same user that the http server is running as. or root.
[06:38] <Dragin> is the correct phrase to restart apache, sudo service apache2 restart?
[06:38] <Dragin> all I know it I can't have access to it from the web =(
[06:40] <Dragin> yay! I remembered that command, anyway lol
[06:40] <overclucker> Dragin: that should work. you should check the file permissions and ownerships in /var/www
[06:41] <Dragin> lpr -l?
[06:41] <Dragin> nope... ls -l =)
[06:42] <shady_> hi, I need to change the Dock Location
[06:43] <Dragin> http://pastebin.com/RnTTSP0R
[06:43] <wilee-nilee> shady_, The unity panel?
[06:43] <Dr_willis> !dock
[06:43] <Dragin> Still not real food the the x's and such, but it seems the user and root have access to all
[06:43] <Dragin> food = good :P
[06:43] <Dr_willis> If you want a 'dock' you can set the left side panel to auto hide then use a dock like above
[06:44] <shady_> yes the on in the left
[06:44] <Dr_willis> shady_,  you really cant move the panel. at least its not supported
[06:44] <Dr_willis> theres some unofficial and buggy hacks out that might do it.. or may break the system badly
[06:44] <xmetal> hmm
[06:44] <reisio> shady_: there are some solutions in the comments of https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/668415 IIRC
[06:44] <xmetal> with that typo, its easy to see someone's got the munchies
[06:45] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys!
[06:45] <Dr_willis> ive definatly seen some of those solutions have worse issues then the panel :)
[06:45] <overclucker> Dragin: can view /index.html in your web browser?
[06:45] <Dragin> no
[06:45] <shady_> how should i know if it is supported or not
[06:46] <Dr_willis> shady_,  none are supported. the panel is supposed to stay on the left side
[06:46] <Dragin> Forbidden You don't have permission to access / on this server.
[06:46] <Dr_willis> shady_,  if you want a panel at the bootom - use a dock likd cairo dock
[06:46] <Dragin> that is from localhost AND from the web site if I use a different computer
[06:47] <Dragin> should I chmod the folders?
[06:47] <Dragin> to 755 or 777?
[06:47] <Dr_willis> 777 is NEVER a good idea
[06:47] <Dr_willis> ;)
[06:47] <reisio> Wiz_KeeD: hey
[06:47] <JordanJ2> What's 755?
[06:47]  * Dragin is so lost when it comes to this... 
[06:48] <reisio> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filesystem_permissions#Numeric_notation
[06:48] <Dr_willis> !permissions
[06:48] <Wiz_KeeD> how's it going reisio ?
[06:48]  * Dragin has a very, VERY rudimentary idea of this heheh
[06:48] <overclucker> JordanJ2: rwx rx rx
[06:48] <reisio> Wiz_KeeD: meh
[06:48] <Dr_willis> i saw an app on android that let you check the boxs and see the rwx and  #'s :)
[06:48] <Dragin> read/write don't know what x is though
[06:48] <Dr_willis> one way to learn them i guess
[06:49] <reisio> like almost every GUI "ftp" client
[06:49] <Dr_willis> 7=rwx 5=rw   i think
[06:49] <reisio> no need to memorize the numbers except for efficiency's sake
[06:49] <Dr_willis> a Directory Must bve 'x' in order for you to enter/see its contents
[06:49] <Dragin> x = what though?
[06:49] <Wug> execute
[06:49] <Dr_willis> X = executable
[06:49] <Dragin> ahhh
[06:49] <reisio> one third of a blue film
[06:49] <Flannel> 5 is r-x
[06:49] <Dr_willis> so you dont want files executable if they are not
[06:50] <Dragin> index.html almost has to be though, right?
[06:50] <Dr_willis> executable? I VERY much doubt it
[06:50] <Flannel> Dragin: it's better to use the alphabetical notation anyway.  It gives you more control over what actually happens.
[06:50] <Dragin> eh???
[06:51] <Flannel> Dragin: No, apache/your-web-server is running.  HTML files are purely source/data files that are read by that program.
[06:51] <reisio> HTML only has to be read to achieve its entire use
[06:51] <reisio> written to be modifiable by a CMS
[06:51] <reisio> and never executable :p
[06:51] <Wiz_KeeD> :))
[06:51] <Dragin> right, and I will prolly have a cms there
[06:52] <reisio> most CMSes will tell you if they require permission changes
[06:52] <Dragin> almost certain of that
[06:52] <reisio> of course, most CMSes are gaping security holes, too :)
[06:52] <reisio> even most that aren't written in PHP :p
[06:52] <BruceS> reisio: NO - index.html should not need to be executable
[06:52] <Flannel> BruceS: that's what he said.
[06:52] <Dragin> Flannel, how would I go about using alpha notation? I have never seen, nor heard of that one in a chmod
[06:53] <Dragin> net split
[06:54] <xmetal> hmm
[06:54] <JordanJ2> Dragin: Servers under a net split?
[06:54] <reisio> nope, all in your head
[06:54] <Flannel> Dragin: things like a+r or o-w and such.   You should read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FilePermissions  it'll explain all of this stuff, and keep you from accidentally breaking things and having to reinstall.
[06:54] <Dragin> looks like it to me
[06:54] <Dragin> I used to be a mod in a large chat room many moons ago, and it did this all the time
[06:55] <reisio> it's a little thick, but if you man chmod, /rwx
[06:55] <reisio> and stare at it for a while
[06:55] <reisio> it'll start to make sense
[06:55] <Dragin> Oh, ok. I think I have seen that Flannel. Thank you for clarifying that for me =)
[06:55] <Flannel> reisio: Or read that wiki page!
[06:55] <reisio> but that was already linked!
[06:55] <xmetal> lol, floodbots ... flooding
[06:55] <xmetal> ;)
[06:55] <reisio> when aren't the
[06:56] <reisio> y
[06:56] <lkeijser> hi, I'm trying to create a preseed file but it fails at the late_command part. This is the relevant part: http://dpaste.com/1384085/
[06:56] <Dragin> I just chmod --help
[06:56] <Dragin> gonna figure it out
[06:56] <Dragin> Thanks for all the help'
[06:56] <overclucker> Dragin: it can add or subtract permissions like this: chmod u-x,g+w,o-rwx afile
[06:58] <nikitakit> I tried adding the mozilla nightly ppa. There was an error:
[06:58] <nikitakit> Error reading https://launchpad.net/api/1.0/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa: EOF occurred in violation of protocol (_ssl.c:547)
[06:58] <nikitakit> any ideas?
[06:58] <redca> amd64 ?
[06:58] <redca> is the iso for?
[06:58] <nikitakit> ?
[06:59] <lkeijser> redca: x86 64bit
[06:59] <redca> k
[06:59] <linu> hi all i am trying to install ccid 1.4.12,i got following configure error,can you help me http://pastebin.com/7Pe5zsW9
[07:02] <lkeijser> linu: why do you have to configure as root?
[07:02] <cfhowlett> !ppa|nikitakit, it's a PPA ... firefox is in the repo's.  If you choose to go OUTSIDE the repos via PPA, well ...
[07:03] <nikitakit> cfhowlett: I know it's a ppa
[07:03] <nikitakit> the issue is that ubuntu can't connect to the ppa
[07:03] <nikitakit> so somethings wrong there
[07:03] <nikitakit> (i.e. it can't even get the package list from the ppa)
[07:04] <cfhowlett> nikitakit, I'd suggest contacting the package maintainer
[07:05] <linu> lkeijser because i have working on /opt directory ,when i configure without sudo it shows permission issue,so that i have given sudo before the ./configure
[07:06] <lkeijser> linu: then don't run from /opt if you don't have rights to write there. Unpack in your own home dir, run configure , make and then 'sudo make install'
[07:06] <kangping> Hello. Anyone here, who would be kind enough to help me with bumblebee?
[07:07] <emilio> hola!
[07:08] <cfhowlett> !es|emilio,
[07:08] <linu> lkeijser ya i will try
[07:10] <linu> lkeijser now i am working on my home folder,eventhoug it shows the same configure: error: use PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/usr/local/lib/pkgconfig ./configure issues
[07:11] <Dragin> Forbidden You don't have permission to access / on this server.
[07:11] <Dragin> Is it POSSIBLE the Linux Firewall is blocking me?
[07:11] <nevyn> Dragin: not if you're getting that error
[07:11] <gr33n7007h> Can anyone justify this friggin PS1 I cannot of the life of me get the if/else statement to work? => http://pastebin.com/zmbu93Wy
[07:11] <wafflejock__> Dragin: it's a response from apache
[07:11] <Dragin> I knew you were gonna make me cry :P
[07:11] <reisio> don't cross post
[07:12] <nevyn> because the firewall has permitted you talking to the service it's just said you're not allowed the resource you asked for.
[07:12] <gr33n7007h> reisio, sorry
[07:13] <wafflejock__> Dragin: it means you don't have a DirectoryIndex configured for that "endpoint" if you try with an absolute file name does it work?
[07:13] <wafflejock__> Dragin: if not then you have it pointing to the wrong folder
[07:13] <Dragin> I tried sudo chmod -R +rwx+rw-x+rw-x ~/public_html/index.html...
[07:13] <Peri_A> Hi. I have a lot of folders and files that are owned by nobody. I need to change them to owned by root and realise I likely have to use the chown command, but can't get the syntax right Most grateful for any assistance..
[07:13] <Dragin> I don't think I got the correct result
[07:13] <Dragin> tried it for /var/www as well
[07:14] <wafflejock__> Peri_A: I believe, sudo chown user:group folderPath -R
[07:14] <wafflejock__> Peri_A: check 'man chown' for details though
[07:14] <Dragin> that what you mean by an absolute file name?
[07:14] <Peri_A> Thanks wafflejock...will give it a go.
[07:14] <wafflejock__> Dragin: like http://localhost/index.html
[07:15] <Dragin> no, but I will now
[07:16] <wafflejock__> Dragin: if it works with the file name specified it means you're just missing DirectoryIndex I believe
[07:16] <Dragin> Forbidden You don't have permission to access /index.html on this server.  then  You don't have permission to access /home/jeff/public_html/index.html on this server.
[07:17] <wafflejock__> Dragin: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_dir.html
[07:17] <wafflejock__> okay
[07:17] <wafflejock__> so what I wrote right there doesn't pertain right away
[07:17] <nevyn> Dragin: did you fix the permissions on the file?
[07:17] <wafflejock__> so do you have a /home/jeff/public_html/index.html file on the machine?
[07:18] <Dragin> -rw-r--r-- 1 jeff root  220 Sep 13 17:21 index.html
[07:18] <Dragin> turned from green to white
[07:18] <Dragin> yes, I do
[07:19] <Ben64> Dragin: you need to make sure apache can get in /home/jeff/public_html
[07:19] <Dragin> -rw-r--r-- 1 jeff root  220 Sep 13 17:21 index.html
[07:20] <wafflejock__> Dragin: right what Ben said
[07:20] <Dragin> that is in the ~/pblic_html
[07:20] <Dragin> public even
[07:20] <Dragin> eh?
[07:20] <Ben64> pastebin the following --- "ls -ld /home /home/jeff /home/jeff/public_html"
[07:20] <Dragin> how would I do that?
[07:21] <Dragin> not /home/home... Just 1
[07:21] <Ben64> type that into a terminal and paste the resulting text at pastebin.com and give us the url
[07:23] <Dragin> http://pastebin.com/j0nfQQDk
[07:24] <Dragin> Why do I get the feeling .home needs to be for root and for jeff?
[07:24] <Ben64> then it seems like a apache conf problem
[07:24] <Ben64> and you don't need root on anything
[07:24] <Dragin> for apache to be able to navigate to public_html
[07:25] <Ben64> nope
[07:25] <Dragin> ok
[07:25] <Dragin> so then I need to look at my apache.conf?
[07:25] <Ben64> yeah
[07:25] <Dragin> ok. thanks Ben
[07:25] <Dragin> and all others =)
[07:26] <Ben64> http://pastebin.com/HNnezVzf
[07:26] <Ben64> thats my directory setup, no root in my directories
[07:27] <alpha_> I downloaded the .tar.gz wine1.6 packet ... how to install it ?
[07:28] <Ben64> alpha_: you shouldn't ... wine is available in the repository and also from ppas, installing manually is the worst way to do it
[07:28] <alpha_> Ben64 : but its about 500 Mb and my internet speed is low
[07:29] <Dragin> I would have never gotten this... I just sudo gedit /etc/apache2/apache2.conf.... it is blank =(
[07:29] <Ben64> alpha_: wine is not 500MB...
[07:29] <Dragin> wait!
[07:29] <wgb> ?
[07:29] <Dragin> Maybe not. I goofed again
[07:29] <Ben64> Dragin: you should use gksudo for graphical applications, not sudo
[07:30] <Peri_A> Brilliant Wafflejock - that seems to have done the trick! Many, many thanks.
[07:30] <UserError> What is the smallest you can get wine? Just curious
[07:30]  * Dragin is still a newb and learning =)
[07:30] <Dragin> Thanks Ben
[07:30] <UserError> with um, ---NIR
[07:31] <alpha_> Ben64 : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6118310/
[07:32] <Ben64> alpha_: if you look closely, you're not doing it correctly
[07:32] <wafflejock__> Peri_A: no problem
[07:33] <alpha_> Ben64 : why ?
[07:33] <Ben64> alpha_: because of the space... you told it to install anything that has "1?6" in it
[07:36] <Dragin> WOOT!!! I got it fixed so I can see it on localhost now anyway! =)
[07:36] <Dragin> And it is on the network! =)
[07:36] <Dr_willis> UserError,  even with the .tar.gz thats most likely the source.. and you wont be able to compile it
[07:37] <Dragin> Could someone please go to finestnutrition dot com and tell me what (if anything) they see?
[07:37] <willybilly0101> should I use gnome or kde?
[07:37] <UserError> I see nothing
[07:37] <UserError> Just kidding, i see this is a test
[07:38] <auronandace> willybilly0101: whichever you prefer
[07:38] <Dragin> How many lines User?
[07:38] <UserError> I dunno like 5 or so "friday the 13th"
[07:38] <UserError> or something
[07:38] <cfhowlett> willybilly0101, how would we know your preferences?
[07:38] <Dragin> Close enough!@ =)
[07:38] <Dragin> Thanks guys! =)
[07:38] <Ben64> Dragin: you shouldn't host a website on a residential connection, its usually against ToS
[07:38] <Dragin> My web server is FINALLY up and running! =)
[07:38] <willybilly0101> how should I choose?
[07:39] <Ben64> willybilly0101: try them
[07:39] <auronandace> willybilly0101: by trying both and seeing how they suit you
[07:39] <Ben64> Dragin: you could get disconnected or charged for a business connection
[07:39] <Dragin> It isn't like I am gonna get a hundred hits lol
[07:39] <UserError> Some lamer is going to DDoS you
[07:40] <cfhowlett> Willybilly0101  flip a coin and man/woman up and make up your own darned mind?
[07:40] <Dragin> And if they charge me for a business connection surely I would be making money for it to be noticed by them
[07:40] <UserError> willy , choose Luna
[07:40] <Dragin> tbh, though, I never read the ToS. Maybe I should though\
[07:40] <Ben64> Dragin: you should just get a real server
[07:41] <UserError> Dragin, Amazon gives you a micro server free for a year
[07:41] <zimbo> i'm trying to make a usb startup disk using 'startup disk creator; - when trying to erase the disk i'm getting this error 'org.freedesktop.UDisks.Error.Failed: Error creating partition table: helper exited with exit code 1: Error calling fsync(2) on /dev/sdb: Input/output error'
[07:41] <willybilly0101> actully I'm just curious what people answer
[07:41] <UserError> Azure gives you a micro or medium instance free for a month and supports ubuntu
[07:41] <willybilly0101> I use kde anyway :)
[07:41]  * Dragin is broke, and mainly doing this as a learning experience
[07:41] <zimbo> i already formatted to usb disk from the terminal
[07:41] <UserError> sorry, 3 months
[07:41] <zimbo> but it will not create a bootable iso disk without erasing it
[07:41] <zimbo> i mean the disk creator won't
[07:42] <Dragin> I will check into those
[07:42] <Dr_willis> zimbo,  input/output error = the disk may be bad.
[07:42] <UserError> Just search google for aws free
[07:42] <zimbo> Dr_willis: it was made in China so you're proabably right
[07:42] <zimbo> it's a cheap item
[07:42] <Dr_willis> i imagine most are made in china. ;)
[07:42] <UserError> Guys, where can I download a specific deb directly from ubuntu?
[07:43] <UserError> FTP / HTTP / Etc
[07:43] <UserError> from another version, not using the name but the number
[07:43] <Ben64> don't install packages from other versions :|
[07:45] <UserError> I'm not... i'm going to fix another python script
[07:45] <UserError> and the original
[07:45] <UserError> since UBuntu screwed up two versions in two different OS's
[07:50] <hzyg> hi
[07:50] <hzyg> help
[07:50] <Industrial> "Ubuntu 13.04 will be supported for 9 months and includes cutting-edge new features such as the Grizzly release of OpenStack." Where can I learn more about this openstack install? I'm running Virtualbox on OSX.
[07:50] <cfhowlett> !ask|hzyg,
[07:50] <cfhowlett> !openstack|Industrial,
[07:51] <Industrial> !grizzly|Industrial,
[07:51] <Industrial> :D?
[07:56] <Industrial> Ubuntu 13.04 offers a complete solution for building highly available, flexible and secure OpenStack production clouds with scale out storage, networking and compute capabilities.
[07:56] <Industrial> thats great but I cant find anywhere how to install it
[07:56] <Industrial> where is the guide/docs?
[07:57] <cfhowlett> Industrial, it's like ... it's like ... you're not even trying.   http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud/tools/openstack
[07:57] <cfhowlett> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OpenStack
[07:57] <killer> hey , what is XDG_CONFIG_HOME?
[07:58] <cfhowlett> Industrial, also #openstack is where you should be.
[07:58] <Industrial> cfhowlett: I went to that page, first thing i saw was a contact form for the sales team of canonical
[07:58] <wilee-nilee> https://help.ubuntu.com/13.04/serverguide/ubuntucloud.html
[07:59] <Industrial> cheers
[08:02] <geirha> killer: http://standards.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest.html
[08:03] <geirha> killer: Basicly, if you want applications to put their config files somewhere other than ~/.config, you set the XDG_CONFIG_HOME environment variable to the desired directory
[08:03] <ak5> does anyone know where the documentation for the lamp-server^ meta package is?
[08:03] <UserError> man
[08:04] <ak5> man what
[08:05] <geirha> ak5: /usr/share/doc/«package-name»/
[08:06] <ak5> geirha: assuming I don't have it installed?
[08:06] <UserError> http://manpages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search.py?q=
[08:06] <UserError> put package at the end
[08:07] <UserError> you could technically bashrc a curl command to pull manpages that way
[08:07] <geirha> ak5: Assuming you have it installed
[08:07] <gm10> gdg
[08:08] <gm10_> lal
[08:08] <gm10> Witaj ;d
[08:08] <gm10_> Witam
[08:09] <gm10> Co tam ?
[08:09] <UserError> English please
[08:09] <gm10_> obciołem se a tam?
[08:09] <gm10> Sam se english plis,.
[08:09] <DJones> gm10: This channel is English only
[08:09] <gm10> I from poland
[08:10] <gm10_> płeć
[08:10] <DJones> !pl
[08:10] <cfhowlett> !pl|gm10,
[08:10] <gm10> I only speak poland , i dont speak english ;3
[08:10] <gm10> I can speak poland ?
[08:10] <cfhowlett> !pl|gm10,
[08:10] <gm10> Me and my friend ?
[08:10] <gm10_> i lika ice strem :D
[08:10] <DJones> gm10: Please use #ubuntu-pl for support in Polish language
[08:10] <cfhowlett> !pl > gm10,
[08:11]  * cfhowlett ... troll suspect
[08:11] <gm10> Co robisz szczamek ? xd
[08:11] <gm10_> nic liszka
[08:11] <gm10> Idiota.
[08:11] <gm10> Co robisz ?
[08:12] <DJones> gm10: This is not a general chat channel, its for support only
[08:12] <IdleOne> gm10 and gm10_ Please stop
[08:12] <gm10> Why join other chanel ?
[08:12] <gm10> Use /chanel ?
[08:12] <IdleOne> because this is an English language supprt channel, if you need support please speak in English
[08:12] <gm10_> hi
[08:12] <DJones> gm10: Use /join #ubuntu-pl
[08:12]  * cfhowlett ... troll confirmed
[08:13] <IdleOne> cfhowlett: that is not helpful
[08:13] <cfhowlett> IdleOne, you're right.  sorry.  I let frustration get the best of me.
[08:13] <IdleOne> cfhowlett: happens :)
[08:13] <BruceS> is there a log anywhere of when I do a password change using passwd, if so, where?
[08:14] <cfhowlett> BruceS, there IS  a terminal command which shows the age of the current password ... don't remember the command though.
[08:15] <gm10> gm10_ is idiot xD
[08:15] <gm10_> eat ice cream
[08:15] <tritonas00> is there a serius reason that canonical have chosen to go with mir ?
[08:15] <gm10> Piss joł ;d
[08:16] <cfhowlett> !mir|tritonas00,
[08:16] <tritonas00> yes i saw that
[08:16] <tritonas00> i dont see why not wayland...
[08:16] <UserError> tritonas, shhh don't worry ;)
[08:17] <tritonas00> i dont worry xD
[08:17] <wilee-nilee> tritonas00, This is support not chat
[08:17] <tritonas00> sorry then
[08:17] <gotRoot> GRUB error in UEFI system:   http://pastebin.com/ec1sRFju
[08:17] <tritonas00> :)
[08:17] <cfhowlett> !ot|tritonas00, a discussion best fitted in OffTopic
[08:18] <wilee-nilee> gotRoot, backbox would not be supported here
[08:19] <gotRoot> wilee-nilee:  I strongly believe GRUB is the same for any linux based OS.
[08:19] <gotRoot> wilee-nilee,  I strongly believe GRUB is the same for any linux based OS.
[08:19] <wilee-nilee> gotRoot, you might try ##linux if you are registered with freenode
[08:20] <gotRoot> Anyone ( minus wilee-nilee ) ready to help???  GRUB error in UEFI system:   http://pastebin.com/ec1sRFju
[08:21] <gotRoot> join ##linux
[08:21] <wilee-nilee> gotRoot, /join ##linux
[08:25] <zhangxun> hello
[08:25] <cfhowlett> zhangxun, greetings
[08:26] <Dragin> how do I see what version of Apache2 I have? (i.e 2.0 or 2.2)?
[08:28] <dionysius> hey, i've installed ubuntu 13.04 using miniCD, was going through straight forward and selected "openssh" and "ubuntu desktop" in the program list. Now when its booting i see first the ubuntu background transition and after its going into black screen, looks like a terminal and after some time i get: BUG: soft lockup - CPU#3 stuck for 22s - I had 12.04 on this laptop before - its the first time i used miniCD.
[08:28] <ak5> Dragin: apache2 -v
[08:28] <Dragin> thanks ak5 =)
[08:30] <Dragin> answer... neither lol. 2.4.69
[08:30] <Dragin> errr... 2.4.6 too
[08:30] <ak5> Dragin: wtf version of ubuntu comes with 2.4
[08:30] <somsip_> !info apache2
[08:31] <vetwangcn> 有说中文的吗？
[08:31] <Dragin> I was going by the php site. it said 2.0 or 2.2. I guess they need to do some updating of their site ;)
[08:31] <somsip_> !zh | vetwangcn
[08:31] <ak5> vetwangcn: 我们都不会说中文
[08:31] <irimi> english only, please :)
[08:33] <xro> Hi, i get an RAM error on an ubuntu server (by snmp). How can i checj RAM status locally?
[08:35] <Rory> xro: What error are you getting? And what version of Ubuntu?
[08:36] <xro> Rory, i get "DIMM is degraded" ubuntu 12.04 server
[08:37] <xro> Rory, how can i get RAM status ?
[08:40] <ActionParsnip> xro: use memtest from Grub
[08:43] <xro> ActionParsnip, i mean from the server shell and without rebooting...
[08:48] <DelphicOkami> xro: LMGTFY http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1374670
[08:56] <infinit__> motion is not live streaming on my ubuntu server, i have nginx could it be the reason why it's not streaming in my browser ? but it saves JPGs and Moviews
[09:15] <lpapp> hi, how come I do not see an openssh daemon present in /var/run although I can still ssh onto the machine?
[09:16] <dan00b_river> Should I update the 12.04 kernel to 3.8 on my EC2 instance?
[09:16] <dan00b_river> trying to setup dokku and there are known issues running it on 3.2 kernels
[09:18] <UserError> dan00b_river , 12.04.3 uses the 3.8.x kernel already
[09:18] <UserError> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[09:19] <dan00b_river> UserError:Did that - upgraded to 3.2.0-53-virtual
[09:19] <dan00b_river> dokku (docker, actually) seems to have an issue running under 3.2 and 3.8 is recommended.
[09:20] <dan00b_river> Now, I could download the debs and install using dpkg but I'm questioning the possibilty, and to some extent, sanity of doing it.
[09:20] <UserError> Do it again
[09:21] <dan00b_river> okay, trying it now.
[09:22] <dan00b_river> nope, nothing to do. "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[09:23] <cfhowlett> dan00b_river, is there some tangible benefit to upgrading that you are NOT getting at present?
[09:23] <dan00b_river> cfhowlett: kinda. Trying to setup dokku for my newbie projects.
[09:24] <dan00b_river> I am new to the world of development and I thought it would be helpful to have my own ec2 instance to deploy to.
[09:24] <dan00b_river> Currently I deploy to heroku but i thought I should give dokku a try.
[09:25] <cfhowlett> dan00b_river, seems a good idea.  well, as the new kernel seems not to be in the repo yet, I guess you can wait for it or (if you're impatient) dpgk -i the .deb
[09:25] <dan00b_river> hmm. now that's a relief. I thought I was doing something wrong!
[09:25] <dan00b_river> cfhowlett: would you recommend I go ahead and dpgk -i it?
[09:26] <dan00b_river> *dpkg -i, sorry
[09:27] <dan00b_river> Thing is, I've already setup my wordpress blog on the EC2 instance. Else I would've simply terminated and fired a new 13.04 which comes with the default 3.8, IIRC...
[09:27] <cfhowlett> dan00b_river, come on.  surely there's a way to update the kernel and NOT lose your wordpress?  I don't know but .. there's GOT to be  a way.
[09:28] <dan00b_river> cfhowlett: two ways if I've performed my google-fu correctly.
[09:28] <dan00b_river> one is dpkg -i
[09:28] <dan00b_river> second is to take a copy/snapshot/something like that. to a new instance.
[09:29] <dan00b_river> terminate the old one, fire a new one and copy back.
[09:29] <dan00b_river> I'm not entirely sure about the second, being a total greenhorn about the whole thing. Hence, apprehensive.
[09:30] <dan00b_river> AS for the the first, slightly worried whether 3.8 plays well with 12.04
[09:30] <cfhowlett> dan00b_river, maybe ask in #ubuntu-server?  pretty sure there's also an amazon channel about as well.
[09:30] <dan00b_river> good lead. I'll ask them.
[09:30] <dan00b_river> Thanks a ton for the time and help cfhowlett
[09:31] <dan00b_river> Sorry to have trouble you with a newbie's stupidity. :)
[09:31] <cfhowlett> dan00b_river, best of luck to you.
[09:31] <gordonjcp> dan00b_river: why bother upgrading to a possibly problematic kernel?
[09:31] <cfhowlett> dan00b_river, NO apology needed.  we all started as noobs
[09:31] <dan00b_river> gordonjcp: Didn't know it is problematic until you mentioned it. Trying out dokku, hence wondering if I should.
[09:32] <gordonjcp> dan00b_river: on a server you typically don't want the lstest and greatest
[09:32] <gordonjcp> *latest
[09:37] <dan00b_river> sorry gordonjcp, latest and greatest? help a newbie out here, what if the latest and greatest doesn't work with the rest of the O?.
[09:38] <dan00b_river> *rest of teh OS?
[09:39] <[Gentoo]> i think he means you want to stay with a stable kernel thats gona have support
[09:40] <dan00b_river> [Gentoo]: Oh, okay. I would want to stay with that, but then there's the tempation of dokku and deplying to my own instance rather than heroku.
[09:41] <dan00b_river> Turns out #ubuntu-server is an empty channel. Is there a channel for Amazon EC2?
[09:46] <DJones> dan00b_river: There is ##aws Which says it has support for EC2 and other AWS services
[09:46] <dan00b_river> DJones: Awesome, thanks. Will try asking the question there...
[09:51] <paranoiaHunter> join #deepweb
[09:51] <dan00b_river> According to this forum thread: https://forums.aws.amazon.com/thread.jspa?messageID=428729 - updating the OS isn't possible, nothing about the kernel independently.
[09:51] <paranoiaHunter> clear
[09:52] <Mig_> So, I had a problem which I solved by mucking around with my graphics drivers and such... only now VLC uses a lot more CPU than it used to, any suggestions?
[09:58] <AlecTaylor> What are the actual min rec RAM for Ubuntu 13.10 x64? - I tried with 1024MB on VirtualBox and it was very slow :\
[09:59] <DJones> !requirements | AlecTaylor
[10:00] <DJones> AlecTaylor: I think I've given 13.04 1gb in a vm and its not had that much of a problem, might be you need to up the graphics memory from the minimum
[10:00] <geirha> AlecTaylor: That's because your VirtualBox doesn't have 3d-acceleration enabled. Though questions about 13.10 go in #ubuntu+1 until it is released
[10:01] <AlecTaylor> Hmm
[10:03] <dan00b_river> Okay, trawling the AWS forums yielded some interestig answers.
[10:03] <dan00b_river> According to this forum thread: https://forums.aws.amazon.com/thread.jspa?messageID=428729 - updating the OS isn't possible, nothing about the kernel independently.
[10:04] <jnhghy> I used rsync command to copy recursively from one directory to another one, at the end of the rsync I checked the properties of the source folder and of the destination folder and they report different things: source folder says it has 53,554 items while dest folder has 53,066 items, is this an issue or is the number of items only aproximated when showned under properties?
[10:07] <geirha> jnhghy: No, it should show the same, but there are many possibilities of why all files were not copied
[10:08] <jnhghy> geirha: thanks, just noticed I received an error code 23 -> seems to be some file permision issues....
[10:08] <geirha> e.g. missing read access to a source file, or missing write access to a destination directory. Perhaps you omited some dotfiles...
[10:09] <Techman> Yeah I wish Germany switched to giving out Lubuntu...because most XP machines will probably struggle running Unity
[10:09] <sabgenton_> I'm trying to remmber the name on an older imaging tool I think it was used with cpio mabye?
[10:09] <sabgenton> like dd
[10:09] <thoonai> hi
[10:10] <sabgenton> it could image while the system was going
[10:11] <thoonai> im having trouble with my matrox graphic cards which are just partially working
[10:11] <sabgenton> I think linus torvalds  spoke against it
[10:11] <sabgenton> well using it on running disk
[10:13] <UserError> Techman , they did... http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/06/germany-to-hand-out-free-ubuntu-cds-on-xps-deat
[10:13] <sabgenton> ah
[10:13] <sabgenton> dump
[10:14] <wa5qjh> what happens if you try to install  a linux application in Ubuntu 11.04 if the package name ends in   .bin
[10:16] <wa5qjh> I would like to install TI Code Composer Studio For linux and MSP430
[10:17] <wa5qjh>  is it likely to install?  There was only one version available.  it was that one or nothing.
[10:17] <wa5qjh>  ???
[10:18] <nevyn> wa5qjh: are there install instructions?
[10:18] <nibbler> wa5qjh: you can most likely execute this one
[10:19] <crunch-choco> anybody using scribus here? i would like to remove the stupid status bar that is eating half my screen :O
[10:20] <wa5qjh> no instructions I could find. just a matter of "Here it is if ya want it"
[10:21] <nibbler> wa5qjh: ./foo.bin  # <-- just execute it (if you trust the source)
[10:21] <wa5qjh>  I've installed the MPS430-gcc toolchain but it doesnt seem to do "PRAGMA" s
[10:22] <wa5qjh>  pretty much trust it.  I think!!
[10:22] <thoonai> any idea how to get a Matrox G450 Millennium running with Ubuntu?
[10:22] <wa5qjh> I had to "sign" an export license agreement for it.
[10:23] <bullicon> what is the best laptop to use with Ubuntu
[10:23] <wa5qjh> not me. way outa my league!!
[10:23] <Techman> Okay. I thought Ubuntu was being shipped somewhere
[10:23] <Techman> Which would be terrible.
[10:23] <Techman> for old XP machines
[10:23] <thoonai> bullicon: Lenovo ThinkPads are good supported laptops
[10:24] <bullicon> thoonai any alternative?
[10:26] <bullicon> thoonai does the touchpad work with ubuntu ?
[10:26] <bullicon> the touchscreen ?
[10:27] <dan00b_river> In case anyone's still following the case of "How to update your EC2 Linux kernel" I found this: http://www.howopensource.com/2012/12/install-kernel-3-7-raring-in-ubuntu-12-10-12-04-11-10-11-04/ - but it says nothing about using it on EC2.
[10:27] <dan00b_river> Correction the case title should read: "How to update your EC2 Ubuntu 12.04 LTS v 3.2.0.53 kernel"
[10:28] <dan00b_river> Not sure if this will work since quite a few users have mentioned on the Amazon forums that the instance falls back to the older kernel after reboot.
[10:28] <leaf1231> ???
[10:29] <dan00b_river> Maybe I should ditch EC2 entirely and think about moving to DigitalOcean or something.
[10:30] <dan00b_river> Oh, there's also this slightly old link about booting into different kernels and user-supplied kernels on your EC2 instance: http://www.verious.com/tutorial/failsafe-and-manual-management-of-kernels-on-ec2/
[10:30] <dan00b_river> *end knowledge dump*
[10:31] <Techman> dan00b_river: what do you use your servers for? I think you might like RamNode if your VPS needs aren't that big
[10:31] <Techman> I find them a lot cheaper than EC2
[10:31] <UserError> Not for the first year
[10:31] <thoonai> bullicon: I wouldn't use the touchpad and use the trackpoint
[10:31] <Techman> What UserError ?
[10:32] <dan00b_river> Techman: newbie dev. Still trying to learn python/Django.
[10:32] <thoonai> bullicon: Some Samsung work quite well with Ubuntu
[10:32] <Techman> I have been using RamNode for months with a continuous discount code and there is no price hikes like Amazon pulls.
[10:32] <Techman> Oh okay dan00b_river
[10:32] <bullicon> thoonai nice would look into that
[10:32] <UserError> Tech, they give u a free year now
[10:32] <UserError> minimum
[10:32] <dan00b_river> was basically trying to set up dokku on my EC2 to showcase my self-learning.
[10:33] <dan00b_river> dokku needs a 3.8 kernel, my ec2 instance kernel is 3.2
[10:33] <Techman> UserError: I know about that but couldn't find a link about it. Also, that is sorta like a marketing trap :P
[10:33] <UserError> just search AWS free
[10:34] <Techman> Alright
[10:34] <UserError> doesn't matter, you can transfer w/python ez, esp if you use UBuntu
[10:34] <dan00b_river> And yeah, I am using AWS at the moment primarily because free t1.micro instance
[10:34] <dan00b_river> a year down the line, I'll have to either shell out money or find something cheaper - the monthly bill for a t1.micro is easily $34 or something.
[10:35] <dan00b_river> Not pocket change if you are living in India.
[10:35] <Techman> With RamNode, VPS' start at $2 and up
[10:36] <dan00b_river> Techman: Interesting and pretty good from an Indian perspective! Will have to look into it.
[10:37] <Techman> Alright
[10:37] <jcbjoe> sorry guys playing with irssi
[10:38] <Techman> I have joins/parts hidden because it helps save memory on IRC Cloud
[10:39] <dan00b_river> Techman: smart move. how do you know when the user you're trying to talk to has quit the channel?
[10:39] <Techman> You don't I guess. If a user is not in the channel anymore they disappear from the tab list
[10:40] <Techman> So I can't tab their nickname
[10:41] <dan00b_river> Hmm. Just turned off joins/parts myself. Thanks for the tip. :)
[10:42] <dan00b_river> Now the question I have to answer for myself is this: Do I wait and learn more or do I jump head first and do: http://www.howopensource.com/2012/12/install-kernel-3-7-raring-in-ubuntu-12-10-12-04-11-10-11-04/
[10:43] <dan00b_river> ..and run the risk of destroying evrything I've created.
[10:43] <dan00b_river> (which isn't much, but still...)
[10:43] <k1l> dan00b_river: there are backports kernel for 12.04. just see the enablement stack
[10:43] <dan00b_river> k1l: Uhh, could you n00b that down for me?
[10:44] <k1l> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[10:44] <dan00b_river> thanks, reading it now.
[10:45] <k1l> and i hope you are not on 11.04 or 11.10 anymore :/
[10:45] <dan00b_river> Nope 12.04.3
[10:46] <Techman> I love 12.04 LTS
[10:46] <dan00b_river> I'm still learning to love LTS. :D
[10:46] <Techman> I always use LTS. Certainly helps you avoid changes that are still in the works
[10:47] <k1l> dan00b_river: but if you are using a ec2 instance i dont think that is gonna work.
[10:47] <thoonai> I want to get my matrox cards running but 12.04 seems to be to new
[10:47] <dan00b_river> k1l: I was afraid you'd say that. :/
[10:48] <k1l> dan00b_river: a ec2 is not a regular install. that should be clear in the first place. you cant just follow ordinary howtos
[10:48] <dan00b_river> I am now trying to check if there's a way to get dpkg -i the 3,8 kernel and use the pvgrun that Amazon offers to get the instance to boot into it rather than the default 3.2
[10:48] <dan00b_river> *pvgrub, sorry
[10:49] <dan00b_river> k1l: Oh, I learnt that alright. I learnt that the hard way... :(
[10:50] <alex_white> win 2
[10:50] <dan00b_river> The process looks a little scary (understatement of the year) but if I'm careful at each step (wait, THIS is the understatement of the year) then maybe...
[10:51] <dan00b_river> Anybody got any other ideas?
[10:52] <k1l> i dont think you could exchange the kernel. i would recommend to talk to the ec2 support if you really need some special kernel
[10:53] <dan00b_river> Yeah, I guess I'll have to do that..
[10:54] <dan00b_river> anyway, heading out for a bite. Will check back later to see if anyone has anything more to offer. Thanks everyone for the help! :)
[11:03] <JoshuaD> gh
[11:04] <karab44> Hi all!
[11:04] <JoshuaD> Hi
[11:07] <ped> Hi
[11:11] <Lemino> Hi all, I need some support to get the settings for my touchpad right. I've been browsing various guides but so far haven't been able to reach a good solution!
[11:12] <njsg> does ubuntu have something similar to wgetpaste?
[11:14] <ixio> anyone know how to determine the version of zend framework running on a box ?
[11:15] <ActionPa1snip> ixio: dpkg -l | grep -i zend
[11:15] <ActionPa1snip> ixio: maybe
[11:22] <JoBArTe_Skuld> hi to all \o\
[11:23] <joran> issues with archive.ubuntu.com?  getting a 404 from apt...
[11:23] <joran> Err http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal-updates/main php5-dev amd64 5.4.6-1ubuntu1.2  404  Not Found
[11:27] <BruceS> I have removed kernel 3.2.0-053 generic from a system and it is now running well with -052 - it hung periodically with 053 - have I prevented this system from getting patches when  I do apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:30] <joran> clearly there is as moving to a different mirror worked.  oh well. I guess noone really cares.
[11:42] <kalekip1> jordan: Most of us are AFK.
[11:43] <ActionPa1snip> kalekip1: gone
[11:43] <kalekip1> oh
[11:43] <kalekip1> xD
[11:43] <kalekip1> I disabled those messages, maybe I should turn them on again :/
[11:43] <Voidnull> hello !
[11:44] <kalekip1> Hello, Voidnull.
[11:44] <pandaer> hello,everyone
[11:44] <kalekip1> Hi, pandaer.
[11:44] <pandaer> hi
[11:45] <Voidnull> i've one question once ubuntu has reached the max limit support its impossible to install packages using apt , i ¿is the any way to make it works again?
[11:45] <lpapp> hi how come I do not see an ssh daemon running in the proc table, but yet: I can ssh onto the machine?
[11:45] <kalekip1> Voidnull: What do you exactly mean?
[11:46] <Voidnull> i meant one of the computer of my work has reached the max time supported theres any one i can fix it without update de system ?
[11:47] <BruceS> Voidnull: if you have reached End of Life you can not reliably get updates
[11:47] <kalekip1> Voidnull: How do you know that the support time is stopped? What version of Ubuntu do you use?
[11:48] <kalekip1> lpapp: Did you try using Google?
[11:48] <Voidnull> 11.04
[11:48] <ActionPa1snip> Voidnull: there are no more updats fo Natty
[11:49] <BruceS> Voidnull: it is time to upgrade
[11:49] <Voidnull> so, i will have to update to 12.04 ... but the updates always left the system broken or something
[11:49] <kalekip1> I'm on 13.04, not that you should care though ;)
[11:49] <Luyin> Voidnull: rather install newly instead of upgrading
[11:50] <lpapp> kalekip1: ?
[11:50] <jch2os> I'm using scrollout F1 as a spam gateway, but I would like something that will quarantine and I can train using a web frontend.  Kind of like maia mailguard.  I was looking at dspam, but not sure how active that is anymore.  Anyone have any suggestions?
[11:50] <Voidnull> yep ill do the same
[11:50] <ActionPa1snip> Voidnull: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases   EOL of Natty is 28th Oct 2012
[11:50] <ActionPa1snip> Voidnull: I suggest a clean install of Precise. It is LTS and supported til April 2017
[11:51] <ActionPa1snip> Voidnull: You can also upgrade in one step to 14.04 when it is released next year as itr is LTS to LTS upgrade
[11:53] <Voidnull> thanks ActionPa1snip  ill reinstall the system i was wondering if there was a way to avoid it but ... np :)
[12:02] <choia> Locate the FAIL: http://shop.canonical.com/product_info.php?products_id=800
[12:03] <kalekip1> ?
[12:03] <choia> It seems that the ubuntu keyboard have a WIN key :)
[12:03] <Luyin> is that a win-key? :D
[12:03] <kalekip1> lol, not a big deal
[12:04] <kalekip1> Oh, it's flexible! That's why it's called flexboard
[12:04] <kalekip1> XD
[12:05] <coalwater> hi all
[12:06] <morten77> I would love to remove the ugly Win key myself... I never use it and it is in the way
[12:07] <coalwater> morten77: you don't use unity ?
[12:07] <Badbit> I had one of those 10 years ago.
[12:07] <morten77> or at least move it somewhere else, perhaps above the numerical keypad?
[12:08] <Badbit> It's just a rebranding of a really crappy keyboard that's impossible to type on.
[12:08] <morten77> hehehe no I don't use unity lol
[12:08] <mario___> i can't start my xubuntu 13.04, when i start my pc i see blue screen with loading for 2-3 sec and later i see only black screen with cursor on top left angle, i can't startx i have got a message: failed to start session "gnome", i can start terminal via alt+f1,f2... can someone help me to repair my xubuntu ?
[12:09] <morten77> Badbit: aha is it like the dell keyboard that lose some keystroks if you type to fast?
[12:11] <kalekip1> mario___: Can you provide us a screenshot?
[12:11] <kalekip1> mario___: Do you have a camera?
[12:12] <kalekip1> morten77: Why not? Windows/Apple/Super key is really useful
[12:13] <_Joshua> I saw one with a cover that said "END LIFE"
[12:13] <kalekip1> morten77: I use [CTRL] + [Super] + [D] All the time >:D
[12:13] <kalekip1> !ot
[12:14] <linu1> hi i have been trying to install ccid 1.4.4, i just confiure as below,but there is output files like /usr/local/lib/pcsc please see http://pastebin.com/0XXUTx64 can you tell me what is that issues
[12:14] <mario___> kalekip1: i can't provide screenshot, i'm connected to irc via irssi started from pc with broken xubuntu
[12:14] <sulo__> Hi guys good afternoon or morning :D
[12:15] <kalekip1> mario___: Hmmm, what does it say? Can you read it?
[12:15] <kalekip1> Hi, sulo__.
[12:15] <_Joshua> dont try too hard, kiddo
[12:16] <kalekip1> _Joshua: To who are you talking to?
[12:17] <mario___> kalekip1: what can i read ?
[12:18] <kalekip1> mario___: Doesn't the blue screen give you a message?
[12:18] <kalekip1> mario___: Only a blue screen?
[12:18] <morten77> kalekip1: what do ctr-super-d do?
[12:19] <kalekip1> morten77: Minimize every window
[12:19] <mario___> kalekip1: the blue screen show for 2-3 sec, after blue screen with xubuntu logo i see only black screen
[12:19] <mario___> with cursor in top left angle
[12:19] <mario___> when i start terminal and type startx i see message: failed to start session "gnome"
[12:19] <morten77> kalekip1: aha, well I never do that.
[12:20] <sulo__> Kalekip1 you are admin or what? :D
[12:20] <kalekip1> mario___: Are you dual booting?
[12:20] <kalekip1> sulo__: No, why?
[12:21] <morten77> I assume minimizing all windows is to reach the icons on the desktop? wouldn't be smarter to have those icons in its own plane/window that can be put on top of the others? just an idea
[12:21] <Natalia19Morena> hola
[12:21] <mario___> kalekip1: no i have only xubuntu
[12:22] <sulo__> kalekip1, you were here yesterday and you resolved your problem with booting I think, btw Congratulation :)
[12:22] <Luyin> morten77: or to hide your browser window *g*
[12:22] <kalekip1> sulo__: Yes, thanks :p
[12:22] <sulo__> :P
[12:22] <morten77> mario___: can you put windows on the black screen? (with not window manager I guess they'll be borderless though), like if you start xterm & from the textmodeconsole
[12:23] <sulo__> maybe you can help me now just for information
[12:23] <mario___> morten77: i start terminal with alt+f1 to connect to irc via irssi
[12:24] <sulo__> do you know what does the word SIGSEGV means?
[12:24] <kalekip1> sulo__: Segmentation Violation Signa, why?
[12:25] <kalekip1> Signal*
[12:25] <sulo__> ubuntu just shows  me update-notifier error
[12:25] <morten77> signal something... Segmentation fault
[12:25] <sulo__> just typical message...
[12:25] <sulo__> Ubuntu has experienced an internal error...
[12:26] <kalekip1> sulo__: Not a big eal, is it?
[12:26] <sulo__> isnt there any channel called bugs or something like that?
[12:26] <kalekip1> deal*
[12:26] <sulo__> ya
[12:26] <sulo__> It just shows me this message but nothing else happened
[12:26] <sulo__> no crashes
[12:26] <kalekip1> sulo__: This is a place where the geeks and upcoming geeks come together. This isn't a guaranteed help chat
[12:27] <sulo__> k
[12:27] <kalekip1> sulo__: I suggest coming back in 4 hours
[12:27] <lelell> Hey, is it possible to enter a key combination at the "Enter Password"-screen of an already logged in user to log him out?
[12:27] <kalekip1> sulo__: Then more people will help you out
[12:27] <morten77> sulo__: when do you get this segmentation fault error? what program is buggy
[12:27] <sulo__> wait
[12:27] <sulo__> It will be better to save it as image - print screen etc...
[12:28] <sulo__> then I can give you a link I think It is useless to write loong story out there
[12:28] <lelell> I'm asking 'cuz I'm sitting at school and some d-bag has forgot to log out and I can't press the power button to shut down the computer for some reason.
[12:28] <morten77> mario___: try ask in #xubuntu channel too if you can't fix the problem
[12:28] <kalekip1> sulo__: Alt + Prt Sc
[12:28] <Luyin> !language | lelell
[12:28] <sulo__> I know :(
[12:28] <sulo__> :)
[12:28] <sulo__> ty
[12:28] <mario___> morten77: ok thanks
[12:28] <trdillon1> I have Ubuntu 12.04 LTS  and I always get a failed the DKMS installation part of the ati driver install. I think I have all the depencies installed. Any ideas what I', missing?
[12:29] <sulo__> what should I gonna do If that report is quite loong
[12:29] <kalekip1> sulo__: Text? Pastebin
[12:29] <kalekip1> !pb
[12:29] <Luyin> lelell: what login manager?
[12:30] <sulo__> thanks ubottu
[12:30] <sulo__> I am Ubuntu newbie
[12:30] <kalekip1> sulo__: ubottu is a really a bot. I woke him up
[12:30] <kalekip1> lol
[12:30] <sulo__> OMG now I see :D :D
[12:31] <lelell> Luyin: Just the default one that comes with 12.04
[12:31] <Luyin> lelell: select the user you want to log in to and ignore the logged-in one
[12:31] <sulo__> can I get is somehow to console? :D
[12:32] <kalekip1> sulo__: [CTRL] + [ALT] + [T]
[12:32] <sulo__> I know
[12:32] <kalekip1> sulo__: called Terminal on Mac + Linux
[12:32] <kalekip1> sulo__: not what you was looking for?
[12:32] <sulo__> but you know It is an report I cant copy the text :D
[12:32] <kalekip1> sulo__: then !screenshot
[12:33] <kalekip1> !screenshot
[12:33] <sulo__> ok If you want to have 5 images... :D
[12:34] <sulo__> maybe one screenshot wil be enough
[12:35] <kalekip1> sulo__: idrc :p
[12:35] <CSy-n> Where can I ask questions about terminal commands?
[12:35] <mjayk> CSy-n: here or there is a page full of them on the ubuntu wiki
[12:35] <kalekip1> CSy-n:  I guess just here
[12:35] <kalekip1> !channels
[12:37] <anouk> hi
[12:37] <kalekip1> Welcome, anouk.
[12:37] <cariveri> Hi. is 14 GB a reasonable amount of data on the / partition (without /home) ?
[12:37] <anouk> i need some help installing a intel driver on a Atom laptop
[12:38] <kalekip1> cariveri: For installing Ubuntu?
[12:38] <almostworking> cariveri, yes, at least for my distro installs 20GB is normally  , my  /  partition  , unless u install a ton of apps. etc
[12:38] <mjayk> cariveri: depends where you plan on storing stuff if you plan on installing stuff to your /home then yea should be fine
[12:38] <ActionPa1snip> cariveri: yes, I use 10Gb. Depends on needs
[12:38] <sulo__> 1 screenshot remains
[12:39] <cariveri> I gave /  15 GB an now im running out of space. it was obvious since my last upgrade.
[12:39] <Luyin> cariveri: it depends strongly on what you like to do. if you need to install a lot of apps, you're probably looking for a bit more
[12:39] <anouk> i need help installing cedar drm driver... anyone ?
[12:39] <Luyin> cariveri: got 50 GB on / here
[12:39] <cariveri> Luyin: I originally hoped apps were put on /home wich is larger.
[12:39] <almostworking> btw, im installing dual boot, on a laptop with 12.04.3 ... and i am givin a slider bar, showing how to divide storage , but doesnt say which window is for which OS.
[12:39] <mjayk> cariveri: you can set it as such
[12:39] <Luyin> cariveri: afaic not by default
[12:40] <kalekip1> anouk: Did you go to the Intel website?
[12:40] <sulo__> kalekip1, are you still here?
[12:40] <kalekip1> sulo__: Yes, I am.
[12:40] <cariveri> still. isnt there any where to tear down this amount. I already deinstalled locales. next comes docs, tha tI dont need.
[12:40] <anouk> yes i did, it seems the best drivers are the powervr ones, just don't knoz how to install
[12:41] <kalekip1> anouk: Install or update?
[12:41] <anouk> install
[12:42] <ActionPa1snip> almostworking: I recommend you do the resize in Windows
[12:42] <kalekip1> anouk: Not sure, but maybe this helps? http://software.intel.com/en-us/articles/using-intel-compilers-for-linux-with-ubuntu/
[12:42] <mjayk> ActionPa1snip: really :o
[12:42] <almostworking> oh? ActionPa1snip , there is a issue using the ubuntu installer to shrink the windows OS partition??
[12:42] <anouk> thanks ill check it out
[12:42] <kalekip1> anouk: I don't think so, I'll Google it if I can
[12:42] <sulo__> uploading takes hours and hours, grrrr
[12:42] <Luyin> actually, I'd recommend using a live OS to rearrange partitions.
[12:44] <ActionPa1snip> mjayk: yes, Windows has a resizer for NTFS and NTFS is proprietary to Microsoft who make Windows
[12:44] <cariveri> mjayk: hmm ok. perhaps I should reconsider freeing space and putting /usr on a seperat partition. what size woudl you suggest?
[12:44] <sulo__> hey kalekip1, check out these screeens hope it will help http://imagebin.org/271161 http://imagebin.org/271165
[12:44] <anouk> well
[12:44] <ActionPa1snip> mjayk: so imho it makes sense to use the Microsoft tool to resize the Microsoft filesystem
[12:44] <anouk> installation fails from driver update
[12:44] <lpapp> anyone for my question/
[12:44] <lpapp> ?
[12:44] <kalekip1> anouk: Maybe this one? https://downloadcenter.intel.com/default.aspx
[12:44] <ActionPa1snip> mjayk: makes sense when you actually think about it
[12:44] <almostworking> really? curious why , but ok........  is there some sort of guide, ive been pure linux since version 6, so, ........
[12:44] <ActionPa1snip> mjayk: so in response. "YEs, really"
[12:45] <kalekip1> lpapp: What's your question? sulo__: What happens if you press continue?
[12:45] <ActionPa1snip> mjayk: why would it be a bad idea?
[12:45] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:45] <kalekip1> Welcome, BluesKaj.
[12:46] <mjayk> ActionPa1snip: Id always use ubuntu in my experience windows is not good at resizing has a higher fail rate, id also never do it in an installer either
[12:46] <BluesKaj> hi kalekip1  thanks
[12:46] <sulo__> kalekip1 bad question I suppose,  press continue?? It is an bug report so wake up or not? :D
[12:47] <kalekip1> sulo__: I meant, dismiss. Everything works fine, right?
[12:47] <lpapp> kalekip1: see above
[12:47] <kalekip1> sulo__: if it happens again, then send report?
[12:47] <sulo__> kalekip1 I am sorry I am just dumbasss after pressing continue nothing else hapenned everything is running fine, sorry again
[12:47] <ActionPa1snip> mjayk: far easier to plan partitions and then you dont have to resize ;)
[12:47] <anouk> hmm
[12:47] <anouk> so
[12:47] <sulo__> should I try update my system? :)
[12:48] <anouk> how do you use a makefile ?
[12:48] <kalekip1> sulo__: Don't worry. This is a nice community. That's why I am here.
[12:48] <almostworking> hmmm, well i can use Knoppix, or rescuecd,  or whichever tool is best to resize windows  first if thats what i should do.....  i already did a image of windows, so i dont realy have to worry if it goes wrong
[12:48] <devjustforfun> Hello guys. Could any body help me with english. I know many people in here know english.
[12:48] <kalekip1> sulo__: Once in a while I do: sudo apt-get update
[12:48] <sulo__> kalekip1 thank you maan everyone must start sometimes :(
[12:48] <sulo__> :)
[12:48] <CSy-n> Ok, I have a text file with an address in it. and I want to ssh to that address. the command would be something like 'ssh $address-in-file'.
[12:48] <kalekip1> devjustforfun: Maybe #ubuntu-offtopic?
[12:49] <Pici> devjustforfun: ##english
[12:49] <Version1> Hi, laptop overheat issue. temperature 75-80+C even if CPU is throttled to about 1GHz. possibly GPU is the reason. ubuntu 12.10
[12:49] <sulo__> kalekip1, maybe I am newbie but I got an error while updating my 12.10 version to 13.04 but I fixed it so now I am running clean 13.04 :)
 i have wrote in ##english already
[12:49] <kalekip1> sulo__: Me2 ;)
[12:49] <Pici> CSy-n: just one address? ssh $(cat filename)
[12:49] <kalekip1> Version1: I hope it doesn't melt bro
[12:50] <almostworking> Version1, what kinda laptop, and has it ever been cleaned if old?
[12:50] <almostworking> that TEMP is the CPU or GPU  ?
[12:50] <kalekip1> Version1: Fan, cooling, etc.
[12:51] <sulo__> while running update It just shows me 404 error and that means It couldnt find some files becase they are on other places
[12:51] <dtcrshr> Hello! im trying to install ubuntu via an usb stick but I got pointed to initramfs all the time. I can see the error on the terminal complaining that a /dev/sd0 were not found. I have disabled all on bios I wouldnt use, floppy, printer ports... Is any low level loading mode so I can install ubuntu?
[12:51] <kalekip1> Cleaning the fan from dust ALWAYS help a bit.
[12:51] <Version1> almostworking: temp is CPU laptop: macbookPro 2006 not cleaned
[12:52] <kalekip1> dtcrshr: I did it like.. yesterday :p Did you use the Universal tool?
[12:52] <sulo__> kalekip1,now I know maybe there is problem with downloading translation for my language but that is ok I rather use english It is pretty good for learning :)
[12:52] <cfhowlett> dtcrshr, how did you create the USB.  Did you md5sum to verify the download integrity?
[12:52] <kalekip1> sulo__: For computing, English is my preferred language. Dutch is lame on the internet...
[12:52] <almostworking> ahh, i see Version1 , those run pretty hot normally, esp. under load .  cleaning it out and putting some artic silver might help a bit ...... however that laptop is not easy to take apart.
[12:53] <sulo__> anyway I am from the czech republic and my language is f.ckingly hard so .. :D
[12:53] <almostworking> and they do have a recall on the nvidia GPU on the 2007 - 08 models ,
[12:53] <almostworking> if u have ATI should be ok
[12:53] <kalekip1> sulo__: I think Chinese and Russian are the hardest to learn :p
[12:53] <Version1> almostworking: its ATI
[12:54] <dtcrshr> Iv created via "universal usb installer" (also tryed yumi, same results) the md5 is fine, I can boot on another netbook iv tested
[12:54] <almostworking> ok, well, you could check the forums but i had one and that thing was hot to the touch when it was under a heavy load.
[12:54] <[Gentoo]> kalekip1: im amazed how people can even read japanese / chinese etc with all them little symbols
[12:54] <kalekip1> !ot
[12:54] <almostworking> i have a thinkpad now.
[12:54] <sulo__> lol try czech language to read It is also hard as hell :D
[12:54] <[Gentoo]> nah im ok lol
[12:55] <Rory> dtcrshr: Can you select the "check integrity" option from the first menu when you boot from the USB?
[12:55] <kalekip1> I'm losing a bit track of the chat. It's been busy now. Please mention the name of somebody and that person will receive a notification/message will be highlighted.
[12:55] <cfhowlett> !who
[12:55] <sulo__> hope there will be the new version of ubuntu :)
[12:55] <kalekip1> cfhowlett: Thanks! :p
[12:56] <sulo__> kalekip1: ok
[12:56] <sulo__> :D
[12:56] <kalekip1> sulo__: 14.04 will be coming next year I just heard.
[12:56] <sulo__> kalekip
[12:56] <sulo__> I am looking forward really :)
[12:56] <kalekip1> sulo__: ?
[12:56] <kalekip1> sulo__: :p
[12:56] <almostworking> ubuntu version 8 was their  " white album" imho .  a beetles reference , best i could think of.
[12:57] <cfhowlett> almostworking, "beetles"??? shameful.  "Beatles"!
[12:57] <asdf-> www-data was deleted from /etc/passwd... how do i add it back?
[12:57] <sulo__> kalekip, can you say me what is the oldest version of ubuntu I am too lazy to find it on wikipedia :D
[12:57] <kalekip1> !ot
[12:57] <cfhowlett> sulo__, warty warthog
[12:57] <almostworking> im tired, im running on empty here which you can tell by my contant use of   "  ,  "
[12:57] <Clifford_> hi everyone, i have problems extracting and installing xampp.tar.gz. Any help is appreciated
[12:57] <kalekip1> asdf-: "was deleted"? Did you delete it?
[12:57] <asdf-> kalekip1, yes, manually. i thought it was created by an install script
[12:57] <kalekip1> Clifford_: Web development? Use LAMP.
[12:58] <asdf-> kalekip1, did you really have to put me on the spot like that ;)
[12:58] <kalekip1> Clifford_: sudo apt-get install lamp-server^ phpmyadmin
[12:58] <sulo__> cfhowlett - thanks a lot :) It seems I must google it to find more informations :)
[12:58] <Clifford_> kalekipl: isn't it the same thing
[12:58] <ActionPa1snip> Clifford_: why do you need the file?
[12:58] <kalekip1> Clifford_: I know, do you really want XAMP that much?
[12:58] <ActionPa1snip> !lamp | Clifford_
[12:59] <sulo__> cfhowlett - now wayyy Ubuntu 4.10 oh my good do you think It can work with my netbook? :D
[12:59] <kalekip1> XAMP is for Cross-Platform. that's the X. The L stands for Linux
[12:59] <Clifford_> kalekipl: yes i do. I need to use mysql
[12:59] <fede1208> ciao
[12:59] <fede1208> !list
[12:59] <cfhowlett> sulo__, netbook?  xubuntu or lubuntu 12.04 would be my recommendation.
[12:59] <Pici> !xampp | Clifford_
[13:00] <almostworking> sulo__, you need a light distro or something?  version 4?
[13:00] <kalekip1> Pici: LAMP is easier
[13:00] <Clifford_> ActionPalsnip: I think its the same thing
[13:00] <Clifford_> t
[13:00] <Pici> kalekip1: thats my point.
[13:00] <Clifford_> ubutto: let me check it out
[13:00] <cfhowlett> sulo__, both are optimized for older and lower spec machines.  do NOT use old/unsupported distros.
[13:00] <kalekip1> Clifford_: Many people don't know that ubotto is a bot. It's not a joke x)
[13:01] <sulo__> cfhowlett , nah I completed upgrade from 12.04 to 13.10 having some troubles with it but finaly my machine is very new :)
[13:01] <traplin> is there anyway to use the BCM43211 chipster (for wireless), without using ndiswrapper? as in a natively supported driver for Linux?
[13:01] <ActionPa1snip> Clifford_: yes bt its a package and makes things easier for you
[13:01] <traplin> chipset*
[13:01] <ActionPa1snip> Clifford_: you dont need any 3rd party stuff
[13:01] <ActionPa1snip> Clifford_: the how to explains it all and gives the commands to run and you will get what you desire
[13:02] <sulo__> cfhowlett - I am thinking about Blackubuntu - CD but one man recommended me virtualisation program....
[13:02] <almostworking> traplin, not be sound like a knob, but u can get intel   or other brand internal wifi radio for your laptop on ebay?  wifi N , etc ?
[13:02] <asdf-> can anyone tell me how to recreate the www-data group?
[13:02] <almostworking> if u really want to make things easier, that is
[13:02] <ActionPa1snip> sulo__: xubuntu and lubuntu are light and suppored here. Blackbuntu is not supported here in any way
[13:02] <cfhowlett> sulo__, I have no basis to compare so ... no opinion.
[13:03] <traplin> almostworking: i am on a desktop, and unfortunately not, i want to see if i can first get my USB dongel to work before buying a different device
[13:03] <almostworking> sulo__, why woudl you want to run bbuntu?
[13:03] <sulo__> almostworking - to be honest I heard about some cracking and they shown that in blackubuntu :D
[13:03] <kalekip1> asdf-: No idea, I'm sorry. What's your Ubuntu version?
[13:03] <dtcrshr> Rory: I got no such option
[13:03] <Clifford_> ActionPalsnip: in what way is it easier?
[13:04] <sulo__> almostworking - I mean cracking Router's setup :)
[13:04] <almostworking> oh, ok traplin ,  i got a $14 USB small wifi for my desktp a long time ago works great ,  Airlink101  is brand. some other nice ones out there too with excellent linux support
[13:04] <dtcrshr> the first one is "run ubuntu live"
[13:04] <traplin> almostworking: it did work, but then i installed a newer kernel (to deal with heavy performance / cpu issues). but that broke the ndiswrapper and basically it can be fixed
[13:04] <mjayk> traplin: wireless usb dongles are one of the only hardware parts that still have awful linux support i think ndiswrapper may be your only option
[13:04] <almostworking> sulo__, oh, well ud prob. be best to use a VM for that kinda thing.
[13:04] <traplin> almostworking: oh okay. i can look into that
[13:04] <ActionPa1snip> sulo__: cracking wifi is also not supported her
[13:04] <Clifford_> kalekipl: oh! a bot huh! no wonder
[13:05] <kalekip1> Clifford_: my name clearly ends with a "one" (1)
[13:05] <traplin> mjayk: yeah got it to work with ndiswrapper on the kernel packed with 13.04, but with a newer kernel, it didn't work anymore
[13:05] <almostworking> its woth it, i still use mine traplin , it comes in handy, i dont need it since i redid entire houses networking.
[13:05] <almostworking> it is worth it*
[13:05] <almostworking> only $11 - $15
[13:05] <traplin> almostworking: think i could get it in South Africa?
[13:05] <sulo__> ActionsPalsnip - Ii already tried some drivers for my wifi because my wifi card doesnt support natively injection of packets but It didnt work for me :(
[13:05] <mjayk> traplin: any reason you upgraded your kernal ? if no specific reason you may be better of switching back
[13:05] <kalekip1> Clifford_: You can also do: (type) "kal" + (press) [tab]
[13:05] <Rory> dtcrshr: What options do you have? There should be "Try Ubuntu without installing", "Install Ubuntu" and an option to check the medium for errors
[13:05] <almostworking> traplin, yea, you have ebay there yes?
[13:06] <traplin> almostworking: yeah but shipping here is a bit of a risk. lots of things get stolen :/
[13:06] <almostworking> oh i assumed you had a local ebay there.
[13:06] <Clifford_> kalekip1: sorry about that, i didn't notice
[13:06] <traplin> almostworking: unfortunately not. but i am looking online now
[13:06] <traplin> thanks for the help
[13:06] <ActionPa1snip> sulo__: what wifi chip does it use ?
[13:06] <kalekip1> Clifford_: Don't worry :p
[13:06] <mjayk> almostworking: do i detect sarcasm :D
[13:07] <almostworking> you dont know anyone that is state side traplin , send you a wifi USB maybe some other stuff in a teady bear , or something?
[13:07] <sulo__> ActionPalsnip - if you mean Atheros 9285 is it right, now I have driver ath5k.sys right now
[13:07] <traplin> almostworking: haha unfortunately not. is the airlink supported out of the box?
[13:07] <traplin> i found one on amazon, which ships to south africa fairly safely
[13:08] <Clifford_> now about extraction and installation, does someone have any idea on how to go about it
[13:08] <tucemiux> anybody knows if the gtx 660 works on ubuntu with the hdmi connection?
[13:08] <[Gentoo]> tucemiux: why shouldnt it
[13:08] <mjayk> tucemiux: afaik yes no reason why it shouldnt
[13:08] <Rory> Clifford_: What are you trying to do?
[13:08] <almostworking> the airlink 101 adapter i have , im sure they make more then one has worked with 95% of the distros i have tried.  linux mint 12 i think didnt like it  but other then that every debian based distro i have put at it ....... worked fine
[13:08] <tucemiux> [Gentoo], because ive been trying it and it doesn't work
[13:08] <sulo__> ActionPalsnip- If you know command to show informations about my devices you can tell it me now I cant remember how It was
[13:08] <[Gentoo]> tucemiux: the drivers support that card
[13:09] <Clifford_> Rory:  I am trying to extract and install xampp
[13:09] <Clifford_> Rory: or lampp
[13:09] <almostworking> edimax is another that is popular, i think thats based of memory  people also use them for rasberry Pi . which im working on now after i get my dual boot done.
[13:09] <tucemiux> [Gentoo],  would you happen to know how to install the drivers because im trying whats on the forum from what obuttu tells me and it's not working on my machine
[13:09] <tucemiux> !nvidia
[13:09] <mjayk> almostworking: do edimax use ralink chips ?
[13:10] <[Gentoo]> my gf uses the tiny edimax usb
[13:10] <mjayk> tucemiux: what drivers are you currently using
[13:10] <[Gentoo]> dont work without downloading the driver
[13:10] <almostworking> i really dont know mjayk , i just know that its supported hardware for rasberry pi. which most people run debian based distros on
[13:11] <almostworking> ahhhh, see [Gentoo] knows what im talking about
[13:11] <almostworking> the airlink is the same way, just works  " out of the box" so to speak
[13:11] <Rory> !lamp | Clifford_ read this information
[13:11] <tucemiux> mjayk,  according to the forum, the first thing i should try is  System->Administration->Hardware Drivers, which is not installed on my machine, so i went to the software center and installed the current drivers, now i have really small resolution that cant be changed
[13:12] <almostworking> never gonna get back to my PS3 game,  i just wanted a URL for dual bootin since the ubuntu installer cant shrink my NTFS without windows freaking out?
[13:12] <almostworking> i might switch out this hard drive in this thinkpad anyway thou , hmmm.
[13:12] <mjayk> tucemiux: the system admin hardware drivers way is out of date
[13:12] <mjayk> tucemiux: try this
[13:12] <mjayk> tucemiux: sudo apt-get install arandr
[13:13] <mjayk> tucemiux: then run arandar from terminal
[13:14] <mjayk> tucemiux: arandr
[13:15] <Clifford_> Rory:  I have read the info. Can it be done with an outdated version of ubuntu
[13:15] <tucemiux> mjayk, will that help me install the drivers?  The first time I tried it xrandr only had one resolution available, i reimaged the machine,  tried installing the drivers and now im back tow here i started, i booted up to safemode and im currently running a check disk
[13:15] <Rory> Clifford_: no
[13:15] <Rory> Clifford_: How outdated? What version?
[13:15] <Clifford_> Rory: 11.04
[13:15] <Rory> No
[13:16] <traplin> are wifi PCI cards supported mostly by Ubuntu?
[13:16] <Rory> You will need to upgrade to 12.04 or later, in order to be able to download from the repositories
[13:16] <mjayk> tucemiux: arandr should allow you to select the correct res once you have the drivers installed
[13:16] <asdf-> what is the best way to recreate the user & group 'www-data'?
[13:16] <almostworking> traplin, i dunno, a good brand is a safe bet thou.
[13:16] <Rory> traplin: Yes, it doesn't matter if it's PCI or whatever, the part that matters is the wireless chipset
[13:17] <tucemiux> mjayk, the trick is "once you have the drivers" installed.  How do I know if I have the drivers installed?
[13:17] <traplin> Rory: is there possibly a page that has a list of supported chipsets?
[13:17] <kalekip1> !repeat | asdf-
[13:18] <Rory> traplin: Tale a look here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/WirelessCardsSupported
[13:18]  * almostworking is curious what Clifford_  needs to do...... 
[13:18] <traplin> Rory: thank you
[13:18] <Rory> traplin: generally, Ralink 2500/RT2400 (802.11G), Realtek RTL8180 (802.11G), and the Atheros AR9170 chipset (802.11N)
[13:18] <Clifford_> Rory: ok, thanks
[13:18] <Rory> traplin: If I were you I'd avoid Broadcom chipsets if you have the option
[13:19] <almostworking> oh is Clifford_ lookin for supported wifi too ?
[13:19] <traplin> Rory: yeah, i have a USB broadcom chipset, so i am seeing if i can get a realtek one now
[13:19] <Rory> No almostworking he is trying to install Apache etc
[13:19] <almostworking> oh ok
[13:20] <tucemiux> mjayk, how is arandr supposed to change my resolution when it only has one available(640x480)
[13:20] <mjayk> tucemiux: you said you had drivers installed
[13:21] <mjayk> tucemiux: there are many ways to install drivers either through the software center or through the vender website
[13:21] <Clifford_> almostworking: supported wifi? seriously?
[13:22] <tucemiux> mjayk, that's what im trying to do, I asked for help installing the drivers - I showed you the first step I did in my attempt and now I have low resolution
[13:22] <traplin> Rory: http://www.dlink.com/us/en/support/product/dwa-121-wireless-n-150-pico-usb-adapter , would that possibly work with Ubuntu on a different kernel to the generic?
[13:23] <mjayk> tucemiux: then you did it incorrectly, what version of ubuntu are you using
[13:24] <tucemiux> mjayk, i installed the 'current driver' using the software center, rebooted the machine and now am on low graphics
[13:24] <almostworking> lots of talk in here Clifford_  , im tried trying to keep up, some people might not want to dive into CLI to get wifi working, and just spend $10 , if thats the seriously part
[13:24] <mjayk> tucemiux: again what version of ubuntu are you using
[13:24] <coalwater> tucemiux: you have a dual graphics card ? ati ?
[13:24] <almostworking> im also tired, and never got my dual boot on
[13:24] <tucemiux> codename: raring
[13:24] <gallois> Hello... I'm facing a problem while automatically setting my timezone with a configuration manager since around last month. I used to copy the /usr/share/zoneinfo/posix file to /etc/localtime and since my last change in configuration, that is yesterday, it broke and I had my clock set to UTC. The last working configuration was from Sep. 05, using an auto generated AWS AMI with the latest updates (raring release). On further investigation, I found that the f
[13:24] <gallois> that I used to copy was now turned to a symbolic link, while previously it was a regular file. I tried to find a changelog for these updates online but failed. Can someone tell me if there were changes in that respect or where can I find the changes on release updates? Thanks in advance.
[13:24] <tucemiux> mjayk, raring 3.8.0-30-lowlatency
[13:25] <tucemiux> coalwater, no, i have an nvidia gtx 660
[13:25] <mjayk> tucemiux: so in the "current drivers" menu you had more than one to choosefrom ?
[13:25] <coalwater> I thought nvidia was easier on ubuntu with the bumblebee project
[13:26] <tucemiux> mjayk, in the software center- yes but how do I check to see what's currently installed?  I had the vga drivers and that at least gave me a usable resolution
[13:26] <mjayk> tucemiux: to find out what you installed go back to current drivers and look whats selected
[13:27] <coalwater> gallois: why not just recofigure it using `sudo dpkg-reconfigure tzdata` ?
[13:28] <almostworking> if you have inxi installed tucemiux you can output ur diver info into the channel....... /exec -o inxi -Gx
[13:28] <tucemiux> mjayk, im not sure what you mean about going back to "look whats selected"?  You mean in the software center?  That's what they are called, the drivers are called "Nvidia binary X.Org driver('current' driver)"
[13:28] <mjayk> tucemiux: yes and there are more to select from ?
[13:28] <gallois> coalwater: I did that to fix the servers that are running, but since I use autoscale to handle the traffic, my next servers will now launch with a wrong tz setting
[13:28] <tucemiux> almostworking, im using my laptop to irc, I can't irc on my desktop because of the tiny resolution
[13:28] <[1]Roach> Hi everyone, I have a question
[13:29] <kalekip1> Hi, [1]Roach.
[13:29] <tucemiux> mjayk, sorry if I didnt tell you this already but yes - the software center gives me 3 options, version 96, current driver, and version 173
[13:29] <kalekip1> !details | [1]Roach
[13:29] <gallois> coalwater: I'm intending to change the puppet files that copy the file to deal with the modifications, but I would also like to know where can I find out about those changes
[13:29] <almostworking> ah ok......  tucemiux . well when ur on your computer in terminal you can do  inxi -Gx  and that will output your display information.
[13:30] <almostworking> just fyi
[13:30] <almostworking> other stuff inxi does too
[13:30] <[1]Roach> I'm trying to run Ubuntu 13.04 along side windows 8 but everytime I load it my screen goes full black and nothing happens afterwards
[13:31] <DJones> !nomodeset | [1]Roach This sounds like a starting point for black screen problems,
[13:31] <ActionPa1snip> [1]Roach: what video chip do you have?
[13:32] <tucemiux> almostworking, inxi is not a package known to my ubuntu o.O
[13:32] <[1]Roach> Okay thank you, and I have no clue right now I just woke up
[13:33] <coalwater> gallois, I dont really know where the settings are, sry, tried `locate` but couldn't find a config file
[13:33] <almostworking> yea, i just realized that, my primary OS isnt ubuntu , im in a VM and trying to figure out best way to dual boot on a thinkpad i just got
[13:33]  * almostworking has a VM to handle specific things 
[13:33] <ActionPa1snip> [1]Roach: does the system have a make and model?
[13:33] <UNIm95> hi 2all
[13:34] <kalekip1> Welcome, UNIm95.
[13:34] <almostworking> anyway, u can wget inxi  , off the top of my head i cant say the long string to do that thou ,
[13:34] <tucemiux> almostworking, what do you mean the "best way" to dual boot?  Get 2 hard drives and dual boot.  You dont have 2 hard drives?  Then what do you currently have?
[13:34] <Rory> tucemiux: what is the outpur of "inxi -Gx" ? Can you put it on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[13:34] <tucemiux> inxi: command not found
[13:34] <almostworking> its a Thinkpad, it has one drive and its  a X61 so cant really do two hard drives tucemiux
[13:34] <almostworking> x61
[13:34] <gallois> coalwater: it's cool... I can work around it, no problem at all, was just trying to track it down to its source so I can be more robust from now on :)
[13:35] <Rory> tucemiux: What Ubuntu version are you using?
[13:35] <coalwater> Currently i have 2 ufei os'es win7 and ubuntu, by default i none of the 2 would book, the grub wouldn't start, i need to press f10 on the boot and explictly choose grub,otherwise it will hang on black screen, already tried boot-repair twice, no change, any idea anyone ?
[13:35] <kalekip1> tucemiux: I have 1 HDD (1 TB) and used 3 NTFS partitions. 1 Linux, 1 Windows and another 1 for everything else.
[13:35] <tucemiux> Rory, raring 13.04
[13:36] <[1]Roach> yes It is a Lenovo Ideapad N580
[13:36] <tucemiux> almostworking,  before you do anything, I suggest you backup your hard drive unless you have recovery CD's for you thinkpad, then I can show you what you need to do without having to worry if you hose your laptop
[13:36] <[1]Roach> pre installed with windows 8
[13:36] <almostworking> i already did a image of windows install via ssh into desktop machine,
[13:36] <ActionPa1snip> [1]Roach: so you can maybe use the web to find out, or check windows device manager......
[13:37] <ActionPa1snip> [1]Roach: nothing tricky, right?
[13:37] <tucemiux> almostworking, how is your hard drive partition right now ?
[13:37] <almostworking> the thinkpad,  pure windows right now, ive not touched it yet.
[13:38] <almostworking> so one big NTFS partition.
[13:39] <gallois> is there any resources where I can find the changelog of each update of a specific release, e.g. raring?
[13:39] <[1]Roach> well when the screen is all black like the computer is off I can hear the login sound of Ubuntu
[13:39] <DJones> !changelog | gallois Not sure if this is what you want,
[13:39] <kalekip1> [1]Roach: Something wrong with your monitor?
[13:40] <User400> stu "d!ckless" lantz betrays all; trannys + queers(chaste Homos/a$$holes), rule; andrea hylton/tranny, frederick  clarence hardison/queer, Q bama, statelocalgov.net, usa.gov, nndb.com, votesmart.org, cia.gov (world leaders), forbes.com/lists
[13:40] <User400> gone
[13:40] <kalekip1> !language
[13:41] <alpha_> how can I download the latest update for ubuntu 12.04.3 ?
[13:41] <tucemiux> almostworking, since you tell me you just installed windows and led me to believe you can reinstall without a problem - I also warned you about backing up your files but haven't said anything about whether its ok to continue in case you have to reimage your windows os
[13:41] <kalekip1> alpha_: Do you mean: sudo apt-get update ?
[13:41] <coalwater> kalekip1: maybe he means the latest iso
[13:41] <[1]Roach> I'm thinking it is something wrong with the laptop itself
[13:42] <UNIm95> Alpha_ apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[13:42] <kalekip1> [1]Roach: Yes, the monitor I think.
[13:42] <gallois> DJones: ;) many thanks
[13:42] <coalwater> alpha_: do you mean an iso or upgrading ur current installation ?
[13:42] <alpha_> kalejip1 : I do that but ubuntu is not update yet ...
[13:42] <UNIm95> Updates will be downloaded and installed
[13:42] <kalekip1> alpha_: Are you still installing Ubuntu?
[13:42] <alpha_> kalekip1 : yes
[13:43] <kalekip1> alpha_: You can update it later...
[13:43] <kalekip1> alpha_: Just get the correct ISO
[13:43] <[1]Roach> I'll have to go and get it checked then. Thank you everyone for all the help.
[13:43] <BluesKaj> alpha_, you have to sudo apt-get upgrade, as well
[13:43] <alpha_> should I change the repository settings ?
[13:43] <almostworking> i never said i just installed windows tucemiux ,  i have it sorted out, appreciate your concern thou,  i have 6TB of storage on the desktop ,  i just havent had windows on a personal machine dual booting since ubuntu v6
[13:43] <tucemiux> anyone knows what happened to the software sources ?
[13:44] <kalekip1> tucemiux: What do you mean? Which software sources?
[13:44] <MonkeyDust> tucemiux  meaning?
[13:44] <UNIm95> Tucemiux they are hidden in synaptic
[13:45] <tucemiux> almostworking, its a lot easier nowadays doing the dual boot but you always have to be careful, I installed linux first and then windows, I have 2 hard drives, all I had to do is install ubuntu, then windows, update grub, finished !
[13:45] <tucemiux> UNIm95, thanks ill give it a look see
[13:45] <alpha_> my screen brightness did not work as well i use the fn key ...  ?
[13:46] <UNIm95> Tucemiux it is in preferences-repository
[13:46] <tucemiux> UNIm95, right you are, theyre hidden in synaptic, I finally found them
[13:47] <UNIm95> Tucemiux in xubuntu they are in menu-system
[13:47] <tucemiux> UNIm95, its in synaptic, I found it
[13:48] <UNIm95> Ok=)
[13:48] <tucemiux> anyone knows what nvidia drivers I should be using for a gtx 660??  I'm looking at "Additional Drivers" in "software & Updates"
[13:49] <mjayk> tucemiux: im sure if u google that youd get a btter answer
[13:50] <tucemiux> mjayk, goggle brings me a lot of stuff that doesn't work anymore, even ubottu is of now help nowadays
[13:50] <alpha_> How can I install software with apt-get much faster ? Its very Slow
[13:50] <almostworking> hmmm, usually I install windows first, the grub of the past didnt like sharing the MBR with liunx.
[13:50] <mjayk> tucemiux: well the fist link on google seams to be good to be
[13:50] <mjayk> *me
[13:50] <tucemiux> alpha_, get a faster internet connection, preferably close to the source
[13:51] <mjayk> tucemiux: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/ubuntu-ringtail-nvidia.html
[13:51] <alpha_> tucemiux : How do it ?
[13:51] <UNIm95> Alpha_ what is slow? apt download evrything from internet. So it is so fast as your internet
[13:51] <almostworking> but this thinkpad doesnt have anything important on it, its a fraction of the storage of my desktop which stores almost everything,  off site backup  , but to keep it simple,  desktop is the main machine in the house
[13:52] <tucemiux> mjayk, that looks really neat, thanks for the link!  I'm going to try the noveau display driver first
[13:53] <alpha_> UNIm95 : The download speed of the apt-get is about 1/10 my real internet speed
[13:53] <Riskwrq> hi
[13:53] <Riskwrq> Anyone frm India/
[13:53] <Riskwrq> m indian
[13:53] <MonkeyDust> alpha_  try this https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4653463/ubuntu_speed.txt
[13:53] <ikonia> Riskwrq: the location of people doesn't matter in this channel.
[13:53] <tucemiux> alpha_, call your cable company and tell then you want a T1 line.  Preferably, just move to a place that's close to the ubuntu servers and get a T1 line in your new dig
[13:53] <Riskwrq> ok
[13:53] <mooncake>  it's quite weird. afaik, ubuntu's servers are fast
[13:53] <MonkeyDust> !in
[13:53] <UNIm95> Alpha_ it is problem of repository server.
[13:53] <Riskwrq> but m saying im indian
[13:53] <Riskwrq> ok
[13:54] <ikonia> Riskwrq: ok, thanks for letting us nknow
[13:54] <tucemiux> !hello | Riskwrq
[13:54] <tucemiux> !hi | Riskwrq
[13:54] <tucemiux> !hello
[13:54] <ikonia> tucemiux: we get it
[13:54] <alpha_> thanks
[13:55] <tucemiux> ikonia, how do we get the messages for new users? hi and hello is not working
[13:55] <ikonia> tucemiux: those factoids may have been removes as you don't really need a bot to say hello
[13:55] <kalekip1> !in | Riskwrq
[13:55] <kalekip1> Oh
[13:55] <kalekip1> already said
[13:56] <DJones> tucemiux: The best way is just to say "hello" rather than using a bot prompt, it makes it more personal
[13:56] <Riskwrq> ok
[13:56] <philinux> tucemiux: !ask
[13:56] <kalekip1> True ;)
[13:56] <almostworking> well i best be off, much to do.............
[13:56] <tucemiux> ikonia, actually,  it's very useful, I can just say hello to the user instead of having to explain to him this is a support channel etc. etc.
[13:56] <kalekip1> !ot
[13:58] <UNIm95> Question: what is official language of this channel?
[13:58] <Riskwrq> !in
[13:58] <DJones> UNIm95: English
[13:59] <tucemiux> DJones, but when youre helping somebody and someone is helping you - you dont really have the time to be "personal" with someone that is politely starting with the pleasantries - just go ahead your question, if someone can help you - they will help you, if not then just wait
[13:59] <tucemiux> just my 2 cents though, a lot has changed and haven't really kept up with the changes
[14:00] <UNIm95> Djones and why we can not use here other languages? English should be on #ubuntu-en.
[14:00] <theblindowl> blackberry messanger exclusive on samsung phones.. crap
[14:01] <mnemon> UNIm95: because speaking 100 different languages on a single channel simply doesn't work, and english is the default.
[14:02] <DJones> UNIm95: Its been that way since I started using Ubuntu with 6.06, the majority of other languages have individual channels, it helps avoid confusion having single language channels
[14:02] <UNIm95> ok
[14:03] <tucemiux> mjayk, i'm stuck on "Applying changes..." you think that's a good sign? :-(
[14:03] <abradley> I cannot sudo apt-get update or even ping www.google.com. What is my problem? http://i.imgur.com/udRPS7f.png
[14:03] <abradley> I am ssh in
[14:03] <abradley> gateway and nameserver are set correctly
[14:04] <mnemon> abradley: can you ping the gateway and do you get a response from nslookup www.google.com
[14:04] <alephant> Hi all
[14:05] <abradley> ping gateway yes
[14:05] <abradley> nslookup no
[14:05] <mnemon> do you get a response from ping 8.8.8.8 ?
[14:05] <UNIm95> abradley chek your dns
[14:05] <UNIm95> Check*
[14:06] <alephant> I need to install the same server repeatedly with a base ubuntu-server image, with some specific (but not overly complicated) RAID/LVM partition layout. In the current environment setting up a PXE infrastructure is not an option; I need to install from a DVD. Is there an easy way to create a custom DVD that will set up my disks and install automatically?
[14:09] <philinux> tucemiux: hoe long has it been stuck
[14:10] <jhutchins> alephant: Yes.
[14:10] <jhutchins> !preseed
[14:10] <alephant> jhutchins: googling, thx [multitasking ftl]
[14:11] <defaultro> morning folks. I was given this string last week and was told to make sure it's installed "php5-curl build-essential".  I got php5-curl installed. What about build-essential, what is it?
[14:11] <alephant> my load is too high :-(
[14:11] <alephant> thrashing
[14:11] <jhutchins> alephant: debian, and I presume ubuntu, has preseed, which is a script like answer file that automates the install, specifies packages, and can perform scripted configuration.
[14:11] <helmut_> hi
[14:11] <kalekip1> !details | alephant
[14:11] <ak5> defaultro: you need it to build stuff
[14:12] <defaultro> ?
[14:12] <ak5> defaultro: for ubuntu or certain applications
[14:12] <kalekip1> oops
[14:12] <No_One> defaultro, build-essential gives the default coding languages compiler stuff, like gcc etc
[14:12] <kalekip1> wrong guy
[14:12] <alephant> kalekip1: *I* am thrashing; *my* load is too high :-/
[14:12] <defaultro> is it something that i need to install?
[14:12] <kalekip1> alephant: sorry, wrong person, I wanted to send it to defaultro
[14:12] <jhutchins> alephant: I haven't used it, but I use kickstart in RHEL/Centos a lot.  We serve the kickstart file from a web server within the network, and manually specify the kickstart and the ip address at boot.
[14:12] <No_One> most definitely defaultro
[14:12] <defaultro> what is it called?
[14:12] <philinux> defaultro: it is if you intend to compile from source
[14:12] <alephant> jhutchins: yep, but for reasons that aren't important that stuff isn't an option in this particular case
[14:12] <No_One> build-essential or build-essentials
[14:12]  * No_One looks
[14:13] <jhutchins> alephant: In other environments I have re-mastered the CD to include the kickstart file, giving me a (dangerous) drop-in, reboot, and autobuild CD.
[14:13]  * kalekip1 grims
[14:13] <defaultro> you mean, build php5-curl from source?
[14:13] <No_One> build-essential - Informational list of build-essential packages
[14:13] <alephant> jhutchins: oh wow, that's an awesome-yet-terrible idea ;-)
[14:13] <ak5> defaultro: ok, your instructions mean to run "sudo apt-get install php5-curl build-essential"
[14:13] <defaultro> oh so it's a package?
[14:13] <No_One> yes
[14:13] <defaultro> ah, I didm;t know it was a package :)
[14:13] <defaultro> installing it now
[14:13] <No_One> ok
[14:13] <No_One> have fun
[14:14] <jhutchins> alephant: You'll want a red Sharpie to label it "DANGER!".
[14:14] <defaultro> installation completed :)
[14:14] <defaultro> thanks guys
[14:14] <No_One> np
[14:14] <No_One> o/
[14:14] <defaultro> the instruction was confusion. I had all other packages in each bullet
[14:14] <defaultro> was confusing
[14:14] <No_One> heh
[14:14] <philinux> defaultro: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo
[14:15] <defaultro> only php5-curl had build-essential on its side. Not sure why they did it that way
[14:15]  * No_One compiles many things by source
[14:15] <defaultro> k
[14:15] <philinux> defaultro: what are you trying to do
[14:15] <defaultro> just prepping a machine for drupal
[14:16] <defaultro> i'm just following notes provided to us
[14:16] <No_One> when someone gives you a list and says install these "list of package" its "(sudo) apt-get install "list of packages"
[14:16] <No_One> o,o
[14:16] <ak5> defaultro: take a look at ansible. Do it once, never do it ever again
[14:16] <defaultro> k
[14:18] <mao__> ubuntu-cn   is not used ??
[14:19]  * mooncake is preteding dead
[14:19] <DJones> mao__: Yes it is for Chinese language support, it may be a bit quiet though depending on how many users are at their computers at the moment
[14:19] <defaultro> also, i install LAMP via tasked. How do I check if the mysql that was installed have PDO support?
[14:19] <defaultro> installed^
[14:20] <kalekip1> defaultro: phpinfo();
[14:20] <defaultro> cool
[14:20] <quick-> hi < How can i see the current time on a linux terminal ?
[14:20] <defaultro> forgot that one :)
[14:20] <larryapple3> ANyome fron India/
[14:20] <larryapple3> manu: ?
[14:20] <kalekip1> quick: @time
[14:21] <BluesKaj> !in | larryapple3
[14:21] <larryapple3> anyone from India/
[14:21] <larryapple3> guess not
[14:21] <kalekip1> BluesKaj: ty, just wanted to do the same
[14:21] <cfhowlett> Miss America
[14:21] <quick-> kalekip1: The time shows the resource usage not the localtime.
[14:21] <Indian> larryapple3: me
[14:22] <cfhowlett> quick-, try date
[14:22] <philinux> quick-: type in date
[14:22] <kalekip1> quick-: in the IRC chat, right?
[14:22] <kalekip1> @time amsterdam
[14:22] <quick-> cfhowlett: date it is !
[14:22] <kalekip1> Works like a charm.
[14:22] <kalekip1> !ot
[14:22] <defaultro> sweet -> PDO drivers	mysql
[14:23] <quick-> kalekip1: Nope i said in a terminal . date is the command .
[14:23] <jundoe> !seen laptop
[14:23] <jundoe> !help
[14:23] <kalekip1> quick-: Sorry, I think too much :p
[14:23] <larryapple3> Indian:  reply
[14:23] <quick-> kalekip1: That's fine :D
[14:23] <larryapple3> !graphics
[14:23] <larryapple3> !idia
[14:24] <Indian> larryapple3: reply for what? :)
[14:24] <larryapple3> Indian:  i sent u a mesage
[14:24] <kalekip1> larryapple3: Go to #ubuntu-bots to play with ubottu
[14:24] <BluesKaj> lar if you have a question , ask
[14:24] <BluesKaj> larryapple3: ^
[14:24] <larryapple3> ok
[14:24] <Indian> larryapple3: I didnt het them...
[14:24] <larryapple3> sorry
[14:24] <larryapple3> sent me one
[14:24] <larryapple3> try it
[14:25] <larryapple3> sorry guys :p
[14:25] <Indian> larryapple3: my problem... cable irc is very limited...
[14:26] <Indian> I'll be back soon
[14:26] <larryapple3> ah
[14:26] <larryapple3> ok
[14:26] <larryapple3> ineiros_:
[14:26] <larryapple3> :)
[14:27] <thebishop> are there any unity plugins that allow for groups/folders in Launcher?
[14:27] <thebishop> i.e. "Music Apps", "Browsers", "Media Players", etc
[14:28] <Indian_> larryapple3, now
[14:29] <philinux> thebishop: yes it called drawers - http://iloveubuntu.net/how-easily-group-items-featuring-their-own-mini-dash-unity-launcher-drawers
[14:32] <thebishop> philinux, THANKS THANKS THANKS
[14:32] <philinux> thebishop: iirc there's also unity-launcher-editor but never used it
[14:33] <mjayk> philinux: thebishop unity-tweak-tool i believe its a must
[14:33] <thebishop> mjayk, thanks
[14:33] <philinux> mjayk: already installed
[14:33] <mjayk> philinux: ah did i get the wrong end of the stick sorry if so :)
[14:34] <larryapple3> oh no
[14:34] <larryapple3> he left
[14:34] <larryapple3> :(
[14:35] <philinux> mjayk: no worries it's just a settings manager
[14:35] <johann> somebody using linuxbox?
[14:35] <larryapple3> indian
[14:35] <larryapple3> ?
[14:37] <mfilipe> hi! I wanna install the java oracle in a 64bits machine but I wanna use 32bits version. How can I do that?
[14:37] <cfhowlett> mfilipe, 32 can install on 64 bit with no problem.
[14:38] <kalekip1> Yup, but not vice versa
[14:39] <philinux> mfilipe: ubuntu uses multiarch now.
[14:39] <kalekip1> 64 bit only means that the binaries can be twice as long
[14:39] <johann> kennt jemand linuxbox
[14:39] <kalekip1> johann, Englisch sprechen, bitte.
[14:39] <kalekip1> !de
[14:39] <johann> somebody knows linuxbox?
[14:39] <DJones> johann: What is linuxbox?
[14:39] <rizna> wat is dis
[14:40] <dan00b_river> Okay, I just documented my attempts at installing dokku on Ubuntu 12.04. Thought I'd share: http://blog.42quirks.com/install-dokku-on-amazon-ec2-ubuntu-12-04/
[14:40] <sidmontu> join ##fpga
[14:40] <kalekip1> !ot | dan00b_river
[14:40] <kalekip1> !ot
[14:40] <kalekip1> Where's ubottu? :S
[14:41] <kalekip1> !offtopic
[14:41] <Pici> kalekip1: lagging, be patient.
[14:41] <tester_> hey
[14:42] <kalekip1> Welcome, tester_.
[14:42] <tester_> what is gng on
[14:43] <mustmodify> I'm confused about when ~/.bashrc vs ~/.bash_login vs ~/.profile etc... can someone point me to a solid explanation?
[14:43] <philinux> tester_: this is a support channel
[14:43] <Jamo_> Hello, not sure if this is the correct place to ask but I am running Ubuntu 12.10 ans was wondering how I would go about altering the code for the pwd command. For example, where do I get the source from and what should I do while recompiling so it overwrites the current command?
[14:43] <Pici> Jamo_: Why on earth would you ever need to do that?
[14:44] <Rory> Jamo_: What result are you trying to achieve?
[14:44] <cfhowlett> Jamo_, download the source code from the repos and hack your little heart out.
[14:44] <mustmodify> Jamo_: I can pretty much guarantee, based on that question, that there is a better solution to your problem.
[14:44] <Jamo_> Currently I can't seem to find an option for pwd to add a backslash when there is a space in the folder path, I was going to add this feature for my use
[14:45] <mfilipe> cfhowlett: yeah, I know but I wanna install the java7 oracle 32bits package in a 64bits machine
[14:45] <mfilipe> but the package is for all archs
[14:45] <Jamo_> mustmodify: There probably is, but I can almost guaruntee I won't learn as much from it
[14:45] <mfilipe> look: http://ppa.launchpad.net/webupd8team/java/ubuntu/pool/main/o/oracle-java7-installer/
[14:45] <Pici> Jamo_: I'd define an alias to do that.  You seriously risk breaking things by modifying your shell's source to do that.
[14:45] <Rory> Jamo_: pwd | sed 's/\ /\\ /'
[14:45] <mfilipe> cfhowlett: I wanna force it to install the 32bits package
[14:45] <Jamo_> Pici: That's probably safer, but I don't really know much shell.
[14:46] <Jamo_> Although Rory's solution looks like it would work actually
[14:46] <cfhowlett> mfilipe, and sudo apt-get intall gives you >>> what?
[14:46] <tester_> how do i add new program in linux to create a new linux
[14:47] <Rory> Could you re-phrase that tester_ ?
[14:47] <mustmodify> there has got to be a tool you use to escape a string... pwd | something
[14:47] <Rory> mustmodify: read my answer above
[14:47] <Jamo_> Rory: I believe that woiuld only alter the first instance
[14:47] <Rory> Jamo_: pwd | sed 's/\ /\\ /g'
[14:48] <mfilipe> cfhowlett: it installs the 64bits package
[14:48] <Jamo_> Rory: Perfec, thank you
[14:48] <Jamo_> perfect*
[14:48] <cfhowlett> mfilipe, ah, well.  You could download the 32bit .deb and then sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[14:49] <mfilipe> cfhowlett: but the package downloads the java7 for 64bits through the oracle website :(
[14:50] <cfhowlett> mfilipe, go directly to oracle and download the 32bit file from them
[14:50] <bsdbandit> im running ubuntu server 10.04 LTS does cgroups work on ubuntu 10.04 or do i need to upgrade to 12.04
[14:50] <mfilipe> cfhowlett: and configure through java-alternatives?
[14:50] <bsdbandit> ?
[14:50] <cfhowlett> mfilipe, I've never done it, so that would only be my guess.
[14:51] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-server|bsdbandit,
[14:51] <bsdbandit> i understand that i was just curious
[14:51] <bsdbandit> if anyone used cgroups
[14:51] <bsdbandit> in linux
[14:52] <mustmodify> I'm confused about when ~/.bashrc vs ~/.bash_login vs ~/.profile etc... can someone point me to a solid explanation?
[14:52] <Jamo_> Sorry to bother you again Rory, but the "pwd | sed 's/\ /\\/g'" command does not insert a space after the "\", meaning its not formatted correctly. How do I fix this?
[14:52] <Jamo_> Nevermind, was my mistake
[14:53] <Rory> Jamo_: I was going to say, what crazy sed are you running? Glad it's working
[14:53] <Jamo_> Rory: Haha, thanks for the help :)
[14:53] <bsdbandit> thanks guys im all set
[14:56] <abradley> Is there a tool that I can install with a gui to administer mysql users/dbs from the ubuntu 12 server command line?
[14:57] <kalekip1> abradley: PHPMyAdmin
[14:57] <kalekip1> nvm
[15:00] <apt-get_install> Hi, someone that is good at GVFS?
[15:00] <jackey_mi> /echo $io
[15:01] <jackey_mi> /echo kk
[15:01] <cfhowlett> abradley, ask in #ubuntu-server   ??
[15:03] <Pici> abradley: mysql-client
[15:04] <davidbrooke_> I'm looking to disable a kernel driver for a remote control....any ideas?
[15:04] <genii> davidbrooke_: Permanently or temporarily?
[15:05] <davidbrooke_> either for now
[15:06] <genii> davidbrooke_: Temporarily: just sudo modprobe -r <modulename>    ..permanently... put the module name in /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[15:08] <mfilipe> how can I add an option to "update-alternatives --config javaplugin.so" ?
[15:10] <bkfitz> Does anyone know if there is an enable/disable for cron?  I have an entry in crontab -e that doesn't seem to be running as scheduled... and I don't see anything in my /var/log/syslog
[15:14] <whoever> hi all , i am tring to use DragSource.getDefaultDragSource(); but when i run the program i get an error that i cannot cast JVindow to transferable . but cannot seem to find any documentation , can someone assist ?  It is my understanding that transferable is the object that is being dragged
[15:15] <kalekip1> !details | whoever
[15:16] <whoever> ubottu: thx wrong chan post
[15:16] <genii> whoever: This seems more like a computer language issue than an ubuntu support question...
[15:16] <thephpx> hi all
[15:17] <kalekip1> genii: He just noticed. whoever: ubottu is literrary a bot.
[15:17] <larryapple3> hi cute ubottu
[15:17] <larryapple3> WIll u marry me ubottu
[15:17] <kalekip1> I woke him up
[15:17] <kalekip1> lol
[15:17] <whoever> ubottu: oh i alway thaugh you ran on windows :-)
[15:17] <otak> bkfitz: cron has a daemon: service cron status
[15:17] <Jamo_> What escape char is needed to put a command that contains single quotes into an alias? e.g alias test='command '/path/route''
[15:18] <kalekip1> Jamo_: Did you try \ ?
[15:18] <Jamo_> a backslash doesn't sem to work
[15:18] <thephpx> i am facing an issue with ubuntu 13.04 which i also encountered in 12.04 LTS ... it suddenly shows black screen with debug message amongst which it says unable to resolve kernel null pointer difference
[15:18] <thephpx> any idea what the issue is?
[15:19] <SwedeMike> thephpx: did anything special happen right before this?
[15:19] <mixto> olaa
[15:19] <thephpx> well one sure shot way to make it happen is to be on skype + teamviewer at the same time
[15:19] <Jamo_> kalekip1: If I use \ it gives me this error: unexpected EOF while looking for matching `''
[15:19] <mixto> k dices
[15:19] <SwedeMike> thephpx: sounds like buggy hardware driver if it's reproducible like that.
[15:20] <kalekip1> Jamo_: Where are you putting it?
[15:20] <Pici> Jamo_: Maybe #bash would be a better place to ask
[15:20] <mixto> i live in spein
[15:20] <Jamo_> alias test='command \'/path/route\''
[15:20] <Jamo_> kalekip1:
[15:20] <mixto> hello
[15:20] <thephpx> hmm
[15:20] <thephpx> can memory be an issue as well?
[15:21] <thephpx> if so how can i run memory test on ubuntu?
[15:21] <SwedeMike> thephpx: yes, it might be hardware related as well.
[15:21] <mixto> were you from
[15:21] <thephpx> true hardware can also be an issue
[15:21] <SwedeMike> thephpx: at startup there is a memtest86 option usually (in GRUB)
[15:21] <kalekip1> Jamo_: Did you try to mix quotes and apsotrophes? (#bash can help you better)
[15:21] <mixto> nenes me cago lla kereis contestame de una puñetera vez
[15:22] <Jamo_> kalekip1: Yeah, I tried that. I'll ask there thanks
[15:22] <kalekip1> Jamo_: Good luck.
[15:22] <mixto> gili
[15:22] <kalekip1> mixto: English only, please.
[15:22] <mixto> ok
[15:22] <michagogo> !nextversion
[15:22] <michagogo> !13.10
[15:22] <mixto> hello
[15:23] <kalekip1> !es | mixto
[15:23] <mixto> eeei
[15:24] <mixto> you are silly
[15:24] <JoBArTe_Skuld> !br | $me
[15:24] <mixto> que no soy portugues soy español
[15:27] <padhu> Hi Ubuntians, I need an laternative to Garmin mapsource & base camp. Please suggest me good one
[15:28] <MonkeyDust> !gps | padhu like this?
[15:29] <Wiz_KeeD> can anyone please tell me how I can remove my personal bin folder from the beginning of path to the end of it?
[15:30] <Wiz_KeeD> /home/wiz/bin:/usr/lib/lightdm/lightdm:/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games <== i don't want that :)
[15:30] <sl-pr> hi...
[15:31] <karab44> hello people
[15:31] <karab44> how to change this /media/albert/e65e072a-6eca-4d53-baa7-3921df220c4d/ into something more readable?
[15:31] <karab44> It is a Raid0 matrix
[15:32] <karab44> where the path is /dev/mapper/isw_cbhgecejcj_Volume0p1
[15:32] <Wiz_KeeD> anyone?
[15:38] <proph> greetings, I am a new ubuntu user and i am experiencing some problems with my wifi conection can anyone help me or tell me where i could ask for some help? Thanks a lot
[15:39] <clue_h> what happens
[15:41] <proph> at first wifi kept on disconnecting but after searching i found this command "sudo dpkg -i bcmwl*.deb" that fixed the problem but i still think something is wrong
[15:42] <otak> Wiz_KeeD: look in ~/.profile or ~/.bash_profile for the line PATH="$HOME/bin:$PATH", then change it
[15:42] <Wiz_KeeD> I just echoed $path
[15:42] <Wiz_KeeD> and redefined it without my dir
[15:42] <john_doe_jr> How do you use halt?
[15:42] <Wiz_KeeD> hope that's good
[15:43] <otak> it's good til next login
[15:45] <vemacs> is anybody here familiar with LXC? the #lxcontainers channel seems a bit.. dead?
[15:45] <Semen_Dickman> how do i install ubuntu in my twblet nuggazz
[15:46] <larryapple3> padhu: ?
[15:48] <vemacs> Well, I'll just go and ask
[15:48] <vemacs> Hi, I've started up a container using LXC Web Panel and manually
[15:48] <vemacs> and am wanting it to bind to one of my assigned IPs: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6117533/
[15:48] <vemacs> how would I do that? the bridge works from inside to out
[15:48] <vemacs> but using one of those IPs just connects to the host box, when trying SSH
[15:48] <vemacs> how would I assign one of those IPs to the container, and access the container thru SSH?
[15:49] <vemacs> here's the config for that container: http://i.imgur.com/cGLjMze.png
[15:49] <MonkeyDust> !enter | vemacs
[15:49] <vemacs> Could try. Was copying line-by line.
[15:49] <Semen_Dickman> anabdy plz ansr me wnt 2 instl ubntu in his tblt
[15:49] <Semen_Dickman> yoooo
[15:50] <bwayne> Wiz_KeeD: you can edit that setting in you ~/.bashrc. Then 'source ~/.bashrc'.  Does that help?
[15:50] <Wiz_KeeD> i looked in there nothing looks like something useful for the path bwayne
[15:50] <Wiz_KeeD> I saw the post myself
[15:51] <bwayne> Wiz_KeeD: you mean the PATH variable doesn't appear in .bashrc?
[15:51] <Semen_Dickman> where to get crack for ubuntu..i want to unlock the professional version settings
[15:51] <vemacs> obvious troll?
[15:51] <MonkeyDust> Semen_Dickman  ubuntu is open source, no need to "crack"
[15:52] <Semen_Dickman> like i want to buy games.for.free in the software center
[15:52] <kalekip1> Semen_Dickman: Get lost.
[15:52] <Pricey> Semen_Dickman: If you're going to ask questions, please ask serious questions.
[15:52] <Semen_Dickman> its not free worldnofngoo is paid.game.
[15:52] <MonkeyDust> Semen_Dickman  how legal is that?
[15:53] <kalekip1> Semen_Dickman: This is a great community, but if you want to talk about piracy, I suggest you to leave this channel.
[15:53] <Semen_Dickman> me.no prate me wnt gms.fr fre
[15:54] <HackerII> get a job
[15:54] <MonkeyDust> Semen_Dickman  wrong channel
[15:54] <Pricey> anyway
[15:54] <Semen_Dickman> wht noo wrld.of.go is.hig prc
[15:55] <kalekip1> !ot
[15:56] <kalekip1> !guidelines | Semen_Dickman
[15:56] <MonkeyDust> kalekip1  don't give the kid any more attention
[15:56] <bwayne> !path > bwayne
[15:57] <Pricey> bwayne: /msg ubottu !path
[15:58] <proph> Hello guyz, i am a new ubuntu user. My laptop has wifi card 802.11b/g/n and i was experiencing problems connecting to the Internet. I found out that kernel bcmwl source 5.2 fixes it, but still have some problems cause every time i restart i have to run the same command again can someone help. Thanks
[15:59] <bwayne> thx Pricey
[15:59] <bencc> in the command line, can I wrap a call with a timeout?
[15:59] <sam113101> proph: what's that command?
[15:59] <bwayne> Wiz_KeeD: /usr/games is coming from PATH being set in /etc/profile.
[15:59] <wilee-nilee> !broadcom | proph
[15:59] <proph> sudo dpkg -i bcmwl*.deb
[16:00] <bwayne> Wiz_KeeD: I'm sorry. that's /etc/environment
[16:01] <bwayne> Wiz_KeeD: You may want to look here for more info. --> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables#File-location_related_variables
[16:04] <Akiva-Mobile> I am about to do an upgrade to ubuntu 64, and wondering if I should bother grabbing the alpha?
[16:04] <Akiva-Mobile> doesnt seem like to much has changed
[16:05] <MonkeyDust> Akiva-Mobile  better ask in #ubuntu+1, i guess
[16:10] <ironfoot495> Hello everyone I have a problem with permissions on my machine when attempting to use fopen and the use of document root.
[16:11] <ironfoot495> I can submit a copy of the project that I'mn working on if that will help you.
[16:11] <padhu> garmin mapsource/ base camp alternative on ubuntu 12.04 is needed
[16:12] <Semen_Dickman> Can any one hwlp me wi5h installation of ubuntu
[16:12] <ironfoot495> I've worked on this for a couple of day with no head way so I can really really use some help here!!!
[16:12] <Pricey> !install | Semen_Dickman
[16:12] <ironfoot495> permissions are really screwed up
[16:13] <Semen_Dickman> Ubuntu fracked my cpu please help me to recover my files nugzzz
[16:14] <bwayne> good job Pricey
[16:14] <Nach0z> lol.
[16:14] <wilee-nilee> That user should have been banned jut for the nick anyway
[16:14] <wilee-nilee> just
[16:15] <Kartagis> in google-chrome, youtube videos are twice as fast. why can this happen?
[16:18] <wilee-nilee> ironfoot495, what does this command say. cat /etc/issue  cat /etc/*release*
[16:18] <wilee-nilee> ironfoot495, pastebin the putput
[16:18] <wilee-nilee> output*
[16:19] <ironfoot495> wilee-nilee: I tried pasting the projedct but
[16:19] <ironfoot495> it wont let me add the php
[16:20] <ironfoot495> I'll try again!
[16:20] <TikkaMassala> What dist is the superior between Mageia 3 and openSUSE 12.3, the KDE version? What i'm looking for is stability and security (want to encrypt my system).
[16:20] <wilee-nilee> ironfoot495, pastebin what that command outputs
[16:20] <unknown101> Where can i talk about security stuff?
[16:20] <kalekip1> unknown is it for Linux?
[16:20] <kalekip1> Then #ubuntu-offtopic
[16:20] <Pici> TikkaMassala: Seeing that this channel is for Ubuntu only, try ##linux
[16:21] <Pici> unknown101: There is also ##security
[16:21] <TikkaMassala> Pici: thanks
[16:21] <MonkeyDust> TikkaMassala  ask in ##linux, please, this is ubuntu only
[16:21] <unknown101> i'll probably go to security
[16:23] <ironfoot495> ok wilee-nilee here is the paste => http://paste.ubuntu.com/6120067/
[16:24] <wilee-nilee> ironfoot495, what does this show cat /etc/issue
[16:25] <ironfoot495> it shows that fopen causes permiision denied!!!
[16:25] <kalekip1> ironfoot495: Tip: make this a constant: $DOCUMENT_ROOT = $_SERVER["//var/www/php_script/vieworders/"];
[16:25] <kalekip1> better practise
[16:25] <wilee-nilee> ironfoot495, Is this even ubuntu, you paste shows a 3rd party project at best.
[16:25] <wilee-nilee> your*
[16:25] <kalekip1> True
[16:27] <oaulakh> hello
[16:27] <wilee-nilee> ironfoot495, fopen is not in the ubuntu repos
[16:27] <wilee-nilee> !info ironfoot495
[16:27] <ironfoot495> listen I did try using a copy of someone else but I sstill get the same result .I hope y\this doen't presnt a tremendous problem. If so I apoligise for for that!!!!!
[16:27] <wilee-nilee> !info fopen
[16:27] <wilee-nilee> !find fopen
[16:28] <kalekip1> ironfoot495: If you want help with PHP, send me a PM
[16:29] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[16:29] <ShapeShifter499> is there away to have the audio output switched to my bluetooth headset when I connect them?
[16:29] <ironfoot495> al right I really apreciate that kalekip1
[16:29] <b4dave_4> Hello chat room. Is anyone using the Ubuntu-one storage and the web client to listen to music?
[16:30] <ShapeShifter499> right now when I connect the audio does get switched but sound controls are non functional till I click my device in "sound settings"  Until I do so music blasts at full blast through the headset
[16:30] <wilee-nilee> b4dave_4, State the issues for help.
[16:31] <ironfoot495> kalekip1: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6120067/
[16:34] <kalekip1> ironfoot495: Talk to me in private?
[16:36] <b4dave_4> wilee-nilee: Everything about it is slow. I have problem with sync all my music and photos. I am paying for the service and am wondering if its worth it and if anyone is having the same problems.
[16:36] <wilee-nilee> b4dave_4, this channel is support not polling.
[16:37] <b4dave_4> wilee-nilee: okay thank you.
[16:37] <wilee-nilee> b4dave_4, If you tell the channel in detail the problems you may get help, is my pointy is all. ;)
[16:37] <wilee-nilee> point*
[16:38] <irreverant> I know i can download older lts versions of ubuntu; for example 8.04 but does ubuntu also host the dell mini 9 version?
[16:40] <ironfoot495> oh yes I'm here I was on another page sorry~ What you got???
[16:42] <wilee-nilee> irreverant, 8.04 is end of life whats the goal here?
[16:43] <GeorgeJ> Hello folks!
[16:43] <irreverant> wilee-nilee: yes i Know; I'm just looking for the original image / support on my dell mini 9
[16:44] <wilee-nilee> irreverant, that would be XP.
[16:44] <GeorgeJ> I have a luks encrypted drive that shows up in nautilus. Is there any way I can set the mount options for the underlying fs?
[16:45] <wilee-nilee> irreverant, There are supported OS's will run on that unit, if you want actual support.
[16:46] <Scott_S> irreverant: What he's saying is that it's recommended to run a newer, supported OS such as Ubuntu 12.04.2 or 13.04. Ubuntu did not host the version that shipped with that specific notebook.
[16:46] <irreverant> wilee-nilee: no that means mine originally came with Ubuntu Jaunty
[16:47] <mfilipe> I changed the mozilla-javaplugin.so alternative to /opt/jre1.7.0_40/lib/i386/libnpjp2.so but Firefox always use /usr/lib/jvm/java-7-oracle/jre/lib/amd64/libnpjp2.so
[16:47] <OerHeks> irreverant, the torrent of 8.04 is still working, not sure you can get your notebook running without updates
[16:47] <mfilipe> what is wrong?
[16:47] <wilee-nilee> irreverant, Ah I see that now, unfortunately it would not be supported here with jaunty, maybe dell has a link to that, not sure why you would want it honestly.
[16:49] <sulo__> HI guys good evening or afternoon :)
[16:50] <sulo__> !channels
[16:50] <MonkeyDust> sulo__  what are you looking for?
[16:50] <sulo__> nothing just saying good afternoon :D
[16:50] <irreverant> I would prefer a newer version but it doesn't seem to support all the functionality of the dell mini 9
[16:51] <mmazing> I've got a cluster of instances on AWS that keep getting spikes in NetworkOut, running 10.04 LTS. I don't get much information from netstat -ntap, etc, when it's happening, what else could I look at to determine what the heck is going on?
[16:52] <sulo__> I was thinking about asking why I cant install Wine 1.6 but finaly I figure it out why It is not working :)
[16:52] <wolff> hi guys, I have installed the latest firefox manually, extracted it to /opt/firefox , problem is that my adobe flash wont work now, I have copied the flash plugin to my ~/.mozilla/plugins directory but it wont work ?   any ideas?
[16:53] <hays_> is there a way to make the trackpad on my netbook "backward" like the macs do?
[16:53] <hays_> just trying to reduce cognitive dissonance
[16:53] <sulo__> wolff, you are saying It wont work but you are not saying that it isnt working,why? :)
[16:54] <sulo__> wolff, anyway I cant help ya I am Ubuntu newbie I am just trying to post here smart comments :)
[16:54] <wolff> hehe @ sulo__
[16:54] <mmazing> hays_: try http://www.maketecheasier.com/reverse-mouse-scrolling-direction-in-ubuntu/2011/09/16
[16:54] <hays_> I want to make two-finger scrolling on the trackpad reversed.
[16:55] <irreverant> looks like 11.04 will work
[16:55] <wilee-nilee> irreverant, For the graphics which seem to be a problem. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=Intel+GMA+950+
[16:55] <wilee-nilee> irreverant, 11.04 is eol as well is all.
[16:57] <wilee-nilee> wolff, The latest releases of FF are in the ubuntu repos.
[16:57] <Scott_S> sudo apt-get install firefox flashplugin-installer
[16:57] <zv3r> hello guys how are ya ?
[16:57] <mooncake> my mood is good as a blue moon
[16:58] <Scott_S> @wolff Please try the command I listed above.
[16:58] <sulo__> wolff, my only idea is to install the whole system again :D :D :D
[16:58] <zv3r> hahah nicee
[16:58] <zv3r> ahahh
[16:58] <irreverant> OMFG, I'm SOL on XP; so EOL on 11.04 is better than a FUBAR'd Win installation.
[16:58] <cariveri> Hey wise guys. can anyone guide me through a little on a partitioning issue?
[16:58] <hays_> mmazing, thanks.  other than gksu that worked... i think.. need to log out and back in.
[16:58] <Scott_S> cariveri, simply ask your question and someone will get to you.
[16:58] <Scott_S> !ask
[16:58] <mmazing> hays_: sure thing
[16:58] <cariveri> Scott_S: ok. here it comes.
[16:59] <wilee-nilee> !ot | zv3r mooncake
[16:59] <sulo__> Scott_S, is the biggest helper out there :), I am glad you are here
[16:59] <Scott_S> sulo__, I try, thank you. :)
[16:59] <zv3r> @Scott_S what is your problem
[17:00] <zv3r> ubable to watch clips in firefox ?
[17:00] <Scott_S> zv3r, I was helping another person, I am not in need of help. Thank you.
[17:00] <cariveri> How do copy/move the home partition to another larger one (called /home2 sofar) and reintegrate it?
[17:00] <zv3r> ohh okey
[17:01] <Scott_S> cariveri, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Partitioning/Home/Moving
[17:01] <mmazing> hays_: did it work?
[17:01] <wolff> Scott thanks , but that command installs firefox 23 , not 24 , i have done an apt-get update, still only version 23
[17:01] <cariveri> Scott_S: cool. thanks.
[17:01] <hays_> mmazing, yep!  that's awesome and an easy fix
[17:01] <wolff> i have firefox version 24 in my /opt
[17:01] <mmazing> hays_: huzzah!
[17:01] <sulo__> my nick will be boneslash so sulo__ = boneslash, ok? :D
[17:01] <hays_> mmazing, this little $200 laptop is turning out to be kinda cool
[17:01] <mmazing> i might try that out myself
[17:02] <irreverant> what 200 laptop?
[17:02] <wilee-nilee> wolff, wait about 24 hrs or so and it will be in the repos.
[17:02] <hays_> irreverant, Asus 1505E i think its called
[17:02] <hays_> irreverant, comes with Ubuntu preloaded and I upped it to 13 with no problems
[17:02] <Scott_S> wolff, if you have already downloaded libflashplayer.so, move it to /usr/lib/firefox-addons/plugins
[17:02] <wolff> thanks Scott_S , will try that
[17:03] <boneslash> hope it helps
[17:03] <hays_> irreverant, it has a Celeron and 2 GB RAM.. little tiny thing.  10.1" monitor
[17:03] <Strit> I run Ubuntu 13.04 with the build-in LibreOffice. When I edit documents in Libre Writer with lots of photos the Writer becomes very slow. Any idea why and how to fix it?
[17:03] <GeorgeJ> I've got a problem, when nautilus mounts the underlying fs of a LUKS volume, it's mounted as root instead of being mounted as the active user. Is this a known bug?
[17:04] <hays_> my only complaint is that the keyboard is small and it is a bit hard to get used to.
[17:04] <Scott_S> Strit, this is due to either LibreOffice not support GPU-accelerated rendering of images, or your system is unable to keep up with the number of images in the document.
[17:05] <hays_> If only there was three-finger swiping away the windows.  lol.  asking for too much i think
[17:05] <anshin> help
[17:05] <Scott_S> !ask > anshin
[17:06] <Strit> Scott_S, hm. I read somewhere that increasing the memory allowed in Libre would make it quicker, but it didn't. My system is an i7 3,4 Ghz with 16 GB ram and gtx 760 graphics. Surely my system should be able to keep up. :P
[17:06] <anshin> wrong command
[17:06] <anshin> sent "help" to all channels
[17:06] <boneslash> hays, you must be glad man I have also Ubuntu 13 and my netbook has only 1 GB RAM :)
[17:06] <wolff> Scott_S, no success
[17:07] <anshin> ubottu: I wasn't asking a question. I just assumed that typing "/amsg help" would tell me what "amsg" does.
[17:07] <anshin> awe
[17:07] <Scott_S> wolff, Do you have that same folder in the location that you installed Firefox 24? It's possible it has a custom directly since it wasn't installed with aptitude.
[17:07] <cariveri> Scott_S: the steps dont make sens to me. why not 1. partition /home2 , 2. rsynch /home -> /home2, 3. edit fstab to /home2, 4. edit /home2 partion mark to /home  ?
[17:08] <hays_> hmm is there a way to tie a three finger gesture to the workspace switcher?
[17:08] <Scott_S> cariveri, I'm sorry, but I don't have the answer to that question. I am only providing you with the steps to do it, which is the recommended method by Canonical.
[17:10] <ekool> Question: I'm working with kickstart and preseed and I'm trying to find a way to force the installer to ask for manual network configuration. Is this possible (ie, the machine boots via DHCP but I want to over-ride this with different static IP's during install)
[17:11] <wolff> Scott_S, my firefox 24 is in /opt/firefox      it is not under /usr
[17:14] <MonkeyDust> ekool  if you don't get an answer here, try #ubuntu-server or ##networking
[17:14] <Apachez> http://i.imgur.com/hChvVyu.png
[17:17] <caulagi> anybody here running FreeBSD and Ubuntu on the same machine?
[17:17] <chaotic_good> when expanding a lvm, do I expand the pv b4 extending the fs?
[17:17] <chaotic_good> I do right?
[17:17] <chaotic_good> padd pv, add  pv to vf, then expand lv, then resize2fs
[17:18] <irreverant> did we get a split on the network?
[17:19] <Pici> chaotic_good: You pretty much have to, where would the FS expand to otherwise?
[17:19] <abradley> after mysql-server install, I'm attemping to connect to with HeidiSQL and get: http://i.imgur.com/AlZbSfo.png Beyond "sudo apt-get install mysql-server" and setting the root password what must be done to get mysql-server up ?
[17:19] <chaotic_good> can ext4 support shrinking a lv?
[17:21] <GeorgeJ> I've got a problem, when nautilus mounts the underlying fs of a LUKS volume, it's mounted as root instead of being mounted as the active user. Is this a known bug?
[17:22] <ekool> abradley: The default config likely doesn't allow connections to mysql from the network, just localhost.
[17:22] <abradley> oh. I'll look into that. thanks a lot ekool
[17:22] <ekool> abradley: You'll likely need to modify my.cnf and tell it to bind to the network interface, not just loopback... then you can also create a user that authenticates from the network and has the permissions you need.
[17:23] <ekool> abradley: however, most mysql navigators are smart in that you can tell them to SSH into localhost, then connect "locally" through that tunnel so you can avoid all that. So, check the network type area there and see if SSH is an option.
[17:25] <last1> how can I upgrade my version of 'ld' ?
[17:25] <abradley> ekool, smart, thanks a lot for the great info
[17:28] <JustMozzy> hi guys.. how are you doing? I have jut bought a Genuis EasyPen 340 tablet. the sytem recognizes it but the buttons don't work. actually only control over the mouse cursor is functioning. can anyone help out to get it running?
[17:30] <jibreel> hi ubuntuers
[17:31] <kalekip1> Hi, jibreel.
[17:32] <jibreel> does anyone have this weird bug, that, when you go fullscreen on an application. and you hit <alt-tab> and can't see the app switcher ?
[17:32] <jibreel> it works but it's hidden from view
[17:33] <Strit> Mine shows perfectlu jibreel
[17:33] <jibreel> what version are you on ?
[17:33] <jibreel> i'am on 13.04
[17:33] <Strit> 13.04 x64.
[17:33] <jibreel> hmm
[17:33] <jibreel> anything i can do about it ?
[17:35] <Strit> No idea. :)
[17:36] <jibreel> it annoying because i would like to have some application in fullscreen
[17:36] <jibreel> like sublime text
[17:36] <jibreel> and so
[17:36] <jibreel> hmm
[17:36] <FloodBot1> jibreel: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:39] <JustMozzy> Hi guys. Can anyone help me setup my graphic pen tablet?
[17:39] <abradley> I'm still getting a "is not allowed to connect" error: http://i.imgur.com/3Y9wZ46.png
[17:42] <littlegirl> abradley: Did you try retyping your username and password?
[17:43] <ekool> abradley: make sure you can connect from command line using that same username and password with mysql -u USERNAME -p
[17:43] <ekool> then it will prompt for password
[17:43] <invitado> Hello, Do anyone know how to fix a bug in Ubuntu 13 about hotplugging?
[17:44] <BluesKaj> invitado:  describe your issue /error
[17:45] <hays_> what is a better lightweight browser, firefox or chromium?
[17:45] <SoundsFromSound> What do you mean "better"?
[17:45] <invitado> When I plug a divice such as a pendrive it is not detected
[17:45] <SoundsFromSound> solely caring about performance and nothing else?
[17:46] <hays_> SoundsFromSound, quicker response, less churning on memory swapping...
[17:46] <GeekDude> Hi tkeranen
[17:46] <BluesKaj> invitado:  where are you looking ?
[17:46] <GeekDude> Hi surya
[17:46] <SoundsFromSound> For that alone, I would said not Firefox.
[17:46] <hays_> SoundsFromSound, Its made a difference for example to install an adblocker
[17:46] <SoundsFromSound> say*
[17:46] <GeekDude> Hi LongCatTH
[17:46] <GeekDude> If I open an SSH client into my ubuntu desktop (12.04LTS), and start a python script that hangs indefinitely unless the terminal is closed, will closing the SSH connection kill the script?
[17:47] <GeekDude> Hi Dave
[17:47] <bazhang> GeekDude, please stop that
[17:47] <invitado> it is only launched when I write in the Terminal lsusb -v
[17:47] <GeekDude> bazhang: okay. Do you know anything about ssh, or enough to answer my question?
[17:47] <BluesKaj> invitado:  check your file manager 'places'
[17:47] <SoundsFromSound> Firefox in my experience uses more memory however there are other pros as to why I choose it. But for only perfomance, I'd say Chrome-family stuff is 'faster'.
[17:48] <SoundsFromSound> But I assure you many people will argue both sides :) Specs, etc.
[17:49] <hays_> SoundsFromSound, ill try both if there is no clear winner
[17:49] <SoundsFromSound> You should notice a difference for sure though, as far as memory usage and whatnot. Yup.
[17:49] <invitado> It is not there
[17:49] <SoundsFromSound> Hey, hays, how do you reply like you are, to a certain user?
[17:49] <SoundsFromSound> I haven't used IRC in years, I forget :(
[17:49] <SoundsFromSound> I'm in ChatZilla
[17:49] <wilee-nilee> !tab
[17:50] <SoundsFromSound> Oh, I need a colon after the name?
[17:50] <SoundsFromSound> I knew the auto complete part :)
[17:50] <GeekDude> no, and it can be anywhere in th message, SoundsFromSound
[17:50] <SoundsFromSound> oh
[17:51] <SoundsFromSound> GeekDude testing?
[17:51] <SoundsFromSound> see?
[17:51] <SoundsFromSound> hmm
[17:51] <SoundsFromSound> GeekDude: Test?
[17:51] <SoundsFromSound> :)
[17:51] <FloodBot1> SoundsFromSound: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:51] <Guest48599> GeekDude: yo
[17:52] <BluesKaj> !pm | invitado
[17:52] <Pici> GeekDude: yes, when you disconnect a HUP signal will be sent and will close your running application. Run your command under screen, or using nohup to prevent this.
[17:52] <elegant_ist> fukuılhş
[17:53] <invitado> Sorry
[17:53] <GeekDude> Pici: do either of those come packaged with ubuntu?
[17:53] <invitado> when I boot with the device plugged in, it works just fine
[17:53] <surya> ??
[17:53] <invitado> the problem is hotplugging
[17:53] <Pici> GeekDude: nohup does, and I'm pretty sure that screen does.
[17:54] <GeekDude> Pici: would screen let me use an alread-existing terminal?
[17:54] <BluesKaj> invitado:  no need to be sorry , it's better to discuss problems in the chat , so others can help too
[17:54] <invitado> understood
[17:54] <Pici> GeekDude: Do you expect to need to reconnect to the terminal later to look at output? then screen is for you. Otherwise nohup is probably better.
[17:55] <chaotic_good> ok in vmware, I added a drive to my ubuntu vm, do I have to reboot?
[17:55] <GeekDude> Pici: I leave an IRC bot & webserver on all day, and want to be able to access them remotely to check output and restart them if needed
[17:55] <chaotic_good> to see the drive or can I do something to rescan live?
[17:55] <chaotic_good> (amazon doesit!)
[17:56] <Pici> GeekDude: Then screen fits your usecase. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Screen for more info.
[17:56] <GeekDude> Pici: ubuntu does not come packaged with screen, but I'll look into it. Thanks
[17:56] <SoundsFromSound> chaotic_good: Are you using Workstation?
[17:56] <supertantan> I'm having problems with flashpalyer and Lightspark, I can not upload them to the sites that use them in any way, how can I solve this?
[17:56] <supertantan> Opss...player
[17:58] <cariveri> what do you call the low graphics type interface in some installations processes?
[17:58] <wilee-nilee> supertantan, you would one or the other running on your computer, not both
[17:59] <supertantan> Not both...
[17:59] <supertantan> Speaking exactly the words I want the flashplayer it was to the hells, since I could access websites with Lightspark
[18:00] <chaotic_good> vsphere 4
[18:00] <wilee-nilee> lol if I could only understand yours. ;)
[18:01] <supertantan> The message: "Could not load shockwave" appears on both when installed separately.
[18:02] <supertantan> I feel I miss the old Ubuntu 8.4 ...
[18:03] <aurorasun> hi
[18:03] <BluesKaj> invitado:  http://asleepfromday.wordpress.com/2008/09/27/udev-and-allow-hotplug-on-ubuntu-and-debian/
[18:03] <aurorasun> Anyone from India here/
[18:03] <aurorasun> or wrong channel
[18:03] <aurorasun> ?
[18:03] <aurorasun> maybe Indian?
[18:03] <BluesKaj> !in
[18:03] <BluesKaj> aurorasun:  ^
[18:04] <aurorasun> hm
[18:04] <supertantan> jai ho.
[18:04] <supertantan> Lol
[18:04] <aurorasun> supertantan:  your Indian?
[18:04] <wilee-nilee> aurorasun, This is support, not find your ethnic group.
[18:05] <supertantan> No, I'm smiling not to cry my shockwave that is so useful when a leaky bucket.
[18:05] <MonkeyDust> supertantan  did you have an ubuntu support question?
[18:06] <supertantan> Need to do my work shockwave.
[18:06] <supertantan> Could you help me?
[18:06] <bazhang> !shockwave | supertantan
[18:06] <Pici> supertantan: shockwave has never been supported on Linux.
[18:08] <supertantan> Understand and how do I access flash sites? Use Lightspark? I do not know to install, need help.
[18:08] <wilee-nilee> supertantan, You fully against using adobe?
[18:08] <TheLordOfTime> supertantan: shockwave has always ever been for Windows, and is different than Flash.  Shockwave only works on Windows, maybe basic operations only under Wine, but you can't get Shockwave on Linux.
[18:08] <TheLordOfTime> supertantan: as for Flash, there *is* an adobe flash plugin you can install but it's non-free, and AIUI Adobe might not support it for very much longer
[18:09] <TheLordOfTime> !flash | supertantan
[18:09] <supertantan> Hey, bad boy ... or cows fly I will install a cursed windows in my wine.
[18:09] <Mega1> an error encountered while prosessing openssh server and client
[18:10] <Mega1> how can i fix this
[18:10] <supertantan> Adobe flash plugin-nonfree? I will try.
[18:11] <wilee-nilee> supertantan, the ubuntu-restricted-extras will load flash and other codecs and ms fonts
[18:13] <supertantan> Well, know that I am ... Lubuntu user have a computer of the eighteenth century, lol. I have already installed the restricted extras Lubuntu.
[18:13] <k1l> Mega1: can you nopaste the whole output and describe what you are doing/trying?
[18:14] <wilee-nilee> supertantan, did you have the partners repos and backports open?
[18:15] <hays_> mmazing, so the downside is that it flips left/right also
[18:16] <hays_> mmazing, or maybe it doesn't... at any rate it seems weird
[18:16] <supertantan> Yes, when it started to go wrong things, and it was still morning I opened all repositories.
[18:17] <invitado> I am not allow to write in this folder: /etc/udev/rules.d
[18:17] <supertantan> I had installed a chrome old, and it worked perfectly. But then came an insistent nasty message saying that my browser was old and needed ataulização and ready ... stopped.
[18:17] <MonkeyDust> invitado  you need sudo for anything outside /homr
[18:18] <MonkeyDust> invitado  I mean /home
[18:18] <supertantan> Oops, update ...
[18:18] <wilee-nilee> supertantan, You then ran a update before installing? Are you sure what ever your accessing is a flash problem, rather than linux in general?
[18:18] <mast3r210> programm swf to avi?
[18:19] <mmazing> hays_: did you try switching the 6 and 7 as well?
[18:20] <supertantan> I have a ubuntu one Xubuntu and Lubuntu and I'm almost giving up because when the squeegee PuppyLinux not own webcam, but at least I watch tv ...
[18:20] <supertantan> Is geral..
[18:21] <supertantan> Put aside this damn flash player, be able to install as Lightspark?
[18:22] <tasslehoff> Any way to use a custom command (shell script) to open a file?
[18:22] <hays_> mmazing, i dont know what the numbers mean
[18:22] <BluesKaj> mast3r210:  ffmpeg or avconv
[18:22] <bazhang> !info lightspark | supertantan
[18:23] <Dragin1> can someone please kill Dragin? I am ghosting
[18:23] <bazhang> Dragin1, #freenode for help with that
[18:23] <Dragin1> thanks
[18:23] <mmazing> hays_: read that article again, it says you can switch the 6 and the 7 in the configuration file that you created to reverse the horizontal direction as well
[18:24] <mmazing> gotta go good luck
[18:24] <BluesKaj> Dragin1:
[18:24] <BluesKaj> if you own a nick that is currently being used, you can make it quit
[18:24] <BluesKaj> by typing: /msg nickserv GHOST «username» «password»
[18:24] <wilee-nilee> Dragin1, run here /msg nickserv help release
[18:25] <supertantan> Well, I'm going to try installing Lightspark ... thank you all.
[18:25] <wilee-nilee> it helps to have several nicks on your account
[18:25] <GeekDude> Pici: I would need to start the webserver in a screen instance, right? I can't just connect to an already-open terminal?
[18:26] <Pici> GeekDude: What webserver/
[18:26] <GeekDude> Pici: It's a python script using the CherryPy framework
[18:27] <Pici> GeekDude: You'd either need to figure out how to set it up as a daemon, or start it in a new instance.
[18:27] <hays_> mmazing, ahh i missed that and the man page isn't particularly clear
[18:27] <supertantan> I honestly do not know how to use this beautiful Xchat staff. My terminal is open. If this will help ...
[18:28] <GeekDude> Pici: Okay. I'll just always start it from SSH/Screen. I can SSH into a computer from itself, right?
[18:28] <arthur_> Olá!!!
[18:28] <Pici> GeekDude: er, sure.
[18:29] <supertantan> How about spending a few commands like remove the dependencies in order to replace the flash Lightspark?
[18:29] <Pici> GeekDude: or just start screen and then disconnect from it (ctrl-a d)
[18:29] <supertantan> Oi, eu sou o dollinho
[18:29] <supertantan> hehehehe
[18:30] <bazhang> !ot | supertantan
[18:30] <GeekDude> Pici: ah, open a terminal and start a screen instance, then disconnect
[18:31] <supertantan> Yes,But what about helping me with Lightspark, I do not understand .. you nicks green, red ... but no one gives me a command, action or something you can understand.
[18:32] <hays_> is clang/llvm worth moving to yet?
[18:32] <hays_> im kind of fascinated
[18:32] <Pici> supertantan: I don't think that most of us have no idea what lightspark is.
[18:32] <Pici> er, have any idea
[18:32] <hays_> looks like a cleanup of gcc's already pretty mature concept
[18:32] <bazhang> Pici, an swf player in the repos
[18:33] <Pici> bazhang: does it have a plugin and can it act as a viable alternative to flash?
[18:33] <bazhang> supertantan, install it from the package manager
[18:33] <supertantan> Oh, you know ... be at peace ...
[18:34] <MonkeyDust> !info lightspark
[18:35] <mazmax> hi
[18:36] <GeekDude> Pici: how do I close a screen instance? I've opened 4 of them, and detached them
[18:36] <gordonjcp> GeekDude: reattach, and close the terminal
[18:36] <invitado> Recently, I presented an issue to the community. It is about hotplugging usb devices. BluesKaj tried to help me but I could not implement the solution in the link he sent to me (It seems it is not applicable to UBUNTU 13, the files are named differently and its content is also different). Any other ideas?
[18:36] <GeekDude> gordonjcp: I can't close the terminal over SSH
[18:37] <Jordan_U> hays_: Are you developing software or just using it? Most of the benefits of llvm/clang are for developers rather than end users (building the same software in Clang vs GCC won't gain you much). Also, you're probably already using some software which was built with Clang or uses LLVM.
[18:37] <gordonjcp> GeekDude: <ctrl-d>
[18:38] <GeekDude> gordonjcp: thank you
[18:43] <kalekip1> Does anybody knows how I can auto select a folder when I print screen?
[18:43] <kalekip1> Let's say, I press on Prt Sc. A window "Save Screenshot" appears. There is an option "Save in folder: " ...
[18:43] <kalekip1> How can I automatically select one?
[18:45] <kostkon> kalekip1, it always remembers the previously selected folder
[18:51] <irreverant> whats up with all the mass quits?
[18:51] <hays_> not sure
[18:53] <GeekDude> gordonjcp: Using "^d" doesn't always work, especially if a python script is running. To kill the instance in the screen, "^a : quit" works while you're inside, and to kill the whole screen externally, "$ screen -S <name> -X quit" works too
[18:54] <gordonjcp> GeekDude: yes
[18:54] <gordonjcp> GeekDude: <ctrl-d> works from a shell prompt though, which is a good place to start
[18:55] <GeekDude> I suppose. My python script doesn't work properly with keyboard interrupt, so I can't return to shell, and I have to end it/kill it
[18:56] <steffen> .
[18:58] <kalekip1> kostkon: Sorry for late reply, but it doesn't.
[18:58] <kostkon> kalekip1, hmm ok
[18:58] <jparker_> I just want you to know, we're counting on you
[18:58] <jparker_> :q
[18:59] <steffen> Hey everybody!
[18:59] <kalekip1> Welcome, steffen.
[19:00] <steffen_yeller> kalekip1 Seen the new System76 machine
[19:00] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys stupid question how can i quickly and accurately check my download speeds for my internet? I used speedtest.net it says im getting a 25mbps internet conncetion but when i download files of HTTP servers i only get a max of 2-3 mbps? Is that because of the location of the HTTP Server?
[19:00] <SoundsFromSound> That new System76 looks sweet :)
[19:01] <Psil0Cybin> sorry way off topic :P
[19:01] <SoundsFromSound> indeed it is
[19:01] <SoundsFromSound> but welcome :)
[19:01] <kalekip1> #ubuntu-offtopic
[19:01] <Psil0Cybin> thanks SoundsFromSound :) I Love this channel.
[19:01] <Psil0Cybin> thanks
[19:01] <Psil0Cybin> kalekip1,
[19:01] <Psil0Cybin> do you know what i make kale chips in the oven er day
[19:01] <Psil0Cybin> on the regular :o
[19:01] <steffen_yeller> To bad they only are in US.. would love to buy one if I could from a EU country :)
[19:01] <Psil0Cybin> mmmmm kale.
[19:01] <kalekip1> !ot
[19:04] <Jonzx3> exit
[19:05] <Axlin> Psil0Cybin: It could be because of a lot of factors, the specific server being one of them. Also remember that notation matters; speedtest.net probably gives you Mb/s, and when downloading you're usually getting MB/s (25Mb/s = 3.125 MB/s)
[19:05] <Jonzx3> exit
[19:06] <AndroUser> Hi guys
[19:06] <AndroUser> !nomodeset
[19:07] <funky> hey folks
[19:07] <funky> I want to change owner to all dirs in the dir recursively
[19:07] <gordonjcp> funky: okay
[19:07] <gordonjcp> funky: be sure you're doing it to the right directory then
[19:07] <funky> I used chown -R magentohappy:stfp *.* and got chown: invalid group: `magentohappy:stfp'
[19:08] <funky> i do it in /www
[19:08] <bshacklett> Did you typo the group name by any chance?
[19:08] <gordonjcp> yup
[19:08] <funky> bshacklett:  could be
[19:08] <gordonjcp> that group name looks like a typo
[19:09] <funky> yep
[19:09] <funky> u guys are geniuses :)
[19:09] <gordonjcp> naw
[19:09] <gordonjcp> you're just particularly dim :-p
[19:10] <invitado> Hello again, there was a electric energy drop in my home and my computer turned off. I was asking about an issue hotplugging usb devices. Blueskaj provided me a link wuth a solution but it was not useful for Ubuntu 13. Any other ideas?
[19:10] <gordonjcp> I bet no-one else here has *ever* done that ;-)
[19:10] <funky> like ever :D
[19:10] <gordonjcp> funky: I know I haven't, ever <ahem>
[19:10] <UrielVigilant> Good night, why the ubunto 12.10 usb pen drive persistent save and remember the change on picture of desktop but ubuntu 13.10 don after terminate and start again , but it remember all changes but that one dont .
[19:10] <gordonjcp> funky: I've never done chown -R in the wrong directory either
[19:12] <Pici> funky: do you want to change the ownership on all files as well, or just directories?
[19:12] <Pici> nevermind
[19:13] <jhutchins> invitado: Assume we don't know what BluesKaj may have told you, what is your actual question?  What do you need to do?
[19:13] <funky> pici yes both
[19:13] <funky> now it works however user is able to escape from /www
[19:14] <Pici> funky: you probably don't want to use *.* though, not every file in Linux has a dot in it.
[19:14] <funky> pici so what do I use?
[19:14] <Pici> funky: just *
[19:14] <funky> ok
[19:15] <Pici> funky: Or specify the absolute path to prevent accidentally changing the wrong permissions
[19:15] <funky> before I used it it was locked into www, it still owned by root the www dir
[19:15] <funky> how is user able to escape?
[19:15] <Pici> funky: I don't know what you mean by escape.
[19:16] <funky> before I set sftp in such way it can only access directories it owns
[19:16] <funky> and cant go out to system dir :)
[19:16] <funky> sftp user owns directories under /www
[19:17] <kerloi> Hi all. I'm trying to install kubuntu on my new laptop. First I had some trouble with a black screen, the nomodeset option fixed it and now the live usb boot correctly. Now my problem is that if I hit the try kubuntu button, the graphic screen disapear, I see some lines in the shell and then it turn to a black screen once again ...
[19:18] <kerloi> I don't dare to install kubuntu before having seen it running fully on my laptop I'm too afraid of having a black screen as a result ...
[19:19] <funky> kerloi why
[19:19] <kerloi> Can I install kubuntu even with that problem on the live usb ? Should it be ok after or is it too risky ?
[19:19] <Guest69905> ubottu is a bot!!!
[19:19] <funky> just play with it
[19:19] <funky> kerloi which problem?
[19:19] <funky> i suggest to  buy extra hdd
[19:19] <funky> and put linux on it :D
[19:19] <Guest69905> I DONT CARE YOU ARE A BOT ubottu !
[19:20] <kerloi> funky: when I hit the try kubuntu button it goes to a black screen once again ...
[19:20] <funky> kerloi probably  video driver
[19:20] <funky> ask some sexy girl in the mall to help u
[19:20] <funky> :P
[19:20] <funky> tell her u need it fixed for something :D
[19:20] <BluesKaj> jhutchins:  "<invitado> When I plug a device such as a pendrive it is not detected"
[19:20] <funky> who here asked blonde girl to fix their pc? :)
[19:21] <wilee-nilee> !ot | funky
[19:21] <kerloi> funky: right I suppose it's a driver problem but could it be fixed after the install ?
[19:22] <ppamula_> hi
[19:22] <fancyfetus> Hey guys
[19:22] <ppamula_> hi
[19:23] <fancyfetus> I updated to ubuntu 12.10 from 12.04
[19:23] <fancyfetus> Now i boot to a black screen with a cursor.
[19:23] <ppamula_> i have a question regarding ubuntu 12.04.1
[19:23] <ppamula_> df -h shows nothing just nfs mount
[19:23] <fancyfetus> I tried nomodset, when i do that, it just freezes at the splash screen with the ubuntu logo
[19:24] <samfromat> hello everyone! Is it possible to install same updates on multiple systems? i have linux mint install on 2 partitions on same machine. Is there a way to update both the system by downloading the updates just once?
[19:24] <ppamula_> touch: cannot touch `test': No space left on device
[19:24] <wilee-nilee> !mint | samfromat
[19:25] <samfromat> but i guess its not a distro specific question.
[19:26] <kerloi> If I have an nvidia graphic card, does installing the latest nvidia driver should fix the black screen problem ?
[19:26] <Strit> samfromat, well, it might not be the same exact commands needed, and therefore what we say might screw up your system.
[19:26] <fancyfetus> wilee-nilee, im getting the black screen again. Except thia time i can access the grub.
[19:27] <Pici> samfromat: something like apt-cacher-ng might be able to help you, it would sit in between your linux computers and the apt repositories
[19:27] <invitado> thanks BluesKaj, this is the problem, another characteristic of the problem is that the device is detected and workable when I boot with it plugged in.
[19:28] <samfromat> Strit: Pici: so may be someone can tell me what to search for.
[19:28] <invitado> the device can be launched using this code: lsusb -v
[19:29] <Strit> samfromat, as the bot says, try in #linuxmint-help
[19:29] <invitado> but it does not pop up automatically.
[19:29] <BluesKaj> invitado:  do you have the device notifiers enabled , probly system settings , not sure on unity where that is exactly (since I'm on kde)
[19:29] <citrusfizz> i have a nic with a second virtual interface,  both IPs are in the same subnet,  the gateway seems to be configured only to use eth1 and not eth1:0  as i cannot ping the second ip from outside the network.  whats my plan of attack here?
[19:30] <invitado> let me see
[19:30] <fhedstrom> Hello, I'm having trouble with getting my intel card to detect correct in 13.10. All i get is low graphics warning in bootup and gallium llvm in X. all works fine in 13.04
[19:31] <invitado> they are on
[19:32] <invitado> I mean enable
[19:32] <wilee-nilee> !13.10 | fhedstrom
[19:33] <fhedstrom> wilee-nilee, tnx!
[19:34] <wilee-nilee> no problem
[19:38] <vikkamath> Is there any way to monitor manual application launches and also find the time of the launch?
[19:40] <quantumpants> hi guys
[19:42] <fancyfetus> I get the fatal error "no screens found" when i boot.
[19:45] <Malenee> what is the best ubuntu site for RSS news   ?
[19:45] <quantumpants> can anybody guide me towards getting myself set up on Cchat or empathy?
[19:46] <Pici> Malenee: planet.ubuntu.com is popular
[19:46] <quantumpants> xchat even
[19:49] <Rory> What do you want to know, quantumpants ? There's this community wiki page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XChatHowto
[19:51] <quantumpants> rory, thanks. ive just killed windows and set up 12.04. im really now to this and not sure where to stat at getting a loggin. im also wanting to volenteer
[19:51] <vikkamath> Is there any way to monitor manual application launches and also find the time of the launch?
[19:52] <dv-> vikkamath: with auditd
[19:52] <quantumpants> rory, im looking to set up an irc accout
[19:53] <Ben64> quantumpants: open up the ubuntu software center and search for an irc client
[19:54] <quantumpants> Ben64, I have Xchat and Empathy ready to go.
[19:57] <Rory> quantumpants: You want to register an account on Freenode? /msg nickserv help
[19:58] <guets987654322> hi peoples
[19:59] <citrusfizz> in ubuntu i have set an ip on eth1:0  but i cannot ping it from another computer   it is in the same subnet as the ip configured on eth1
[19:59] <citrusfizz> am i missing something?
[20:00] <jibreel> guets987654322: howdi
[20:00] <quantumpants> Rory, Its all confusing to me :) ive always used windows and utting used to this new OS and the Linux way. im not even sure how to use that info you just sent. sorry
[20:02] <Ari-Yang> quantumpants, that's like one of the standard IRC commands :| it has nothing to do with Windows or Linux...
[20:02] <Ari-Yang> just type /msg nickserv help and hit enter
[20:02] <Ari-Yang> (in your IRC client)
[20:04] <quantumpants> Ari-Yang, Forgive me, I still studying up on linux etc.. ill get there in the end lol.  i suppose i just type that in
[20:12] <Rory> quantumpants: IRC is the same on Linux as it is on Windows, what IRC client did you use on Windows?
[20:12] <Rory> quantumpants: It would help if you could explain exactly what you want to achieve... you're currently using IRC. So it's possible you don't need to do anything at all
[20:15] <quantumpants> Rory, your right, I wanted to register my Nick so i could look through the othe channels. i didnt use irc on windows, im sorry. i am a a novis at this.
[20:17] <Rory> quantumpants: Have you managed to register now? This isn't really the right channel to discuss general IRC and Freenode support, try asking in #freenode
[20:18] <quantumpants> thanks rory. thanks guys.
[20:18] <hasiok> Hello
[20:26] <qlixed> Hi guys... i have some strange issue...
[20:26] <qlixed> with unity..
[20:26] <maveas> Somebody with experience with preseeding? I've tried to include my preseed file on the ISO in /preseed and added the md5sum to md5sum.txt but the installer doesn't use it (yeah, edited the boot option to the preseed file path)
[20:27] <qlixed> When my session start i can logon without problems, but the unity bars never appears...
[20:27] <maveas> Btw, the iso is ubuntu server 13.04 x64
[20:27] <qlixed> someone have taht issue ever?
[20:30] <maveas> En med erfaring i preseed?
[20:31] <honestly> somebody please tell me what's wrong with this ip route call
[20:31] <honestly> I must be having a brain outage
[20:31] <honestly> root@bb10:~# ip route add 10.9.8.0/24 via 131.159.74.53 dev eth0
[20:31] <honestly> RTNETLINK answers: No such process
[20:31] <honestly> eth0 exists
[20:31] <honestly> and it's up
[20:31] <honestly> "ip route" gives me the routes
[20:31] <Pici> !enter
[20:31] <honestly> sorry.
[20:33] <qlixed> Have a "misterious" issue with unity, session start, but no bars at all. Someone can gimme a hand with it?
[20:34] <bucketm0use> http://superuser.com/questions/644444/one-of-two-raid-1s-is-not-recognized-in-ubuntu-13-04
[20:34] <mihok> Is there a way to disable/delete/remove services from an ubuntu drive from editing files/configs alone?
[20:35] <mihok> I have an amazon ebs drive that I need to fix, I have an openvpn service running that messes up the internet connection on the server
[20:35] <mihok> so I've got it mounted as the secondary drive on a temporary instance
[20:35] <tjbiddle> Hey guys - General "what's a good practice" question for linux users: I was told it's bad to have a CLI app log to a file without the user knowing - But I suppress a full stacktrace unless `--debug` is passed, so sometimes random errors (Happens one time, not the next) are missed and I can't be given a bug report. What would be an ideal solution for this? Have a setting (Defaulted to true) to log 50 lines or so to a file that the user can change themselves?
[20:35] <mihok> but not sure how to remove the service
[20:36] <bucketm0use> One of two of my RAID 1's is not recognized in Ubuntu 13.04. Has anyone experienced this before?
[20:37] <gordonjcp> tjbiddle: is this something you're writing?
[20:37] <designbybeck_> Helping someone with a new install. They didn't want windows 8 so we took it off, now he gets: The ‘grub-efi-amd64-signed’ package failed to install into /target/. Without the GRUB boot loader, the installed system will not boot.
[20:37] <designbybeck_> when trying to install
[20:37] <tjbiddle> gordonjcp: Internal application, yes.
[20:37] <gordonjcp> tjbiddle: just log anyway, then
[20:37] <gordonjcp> tjbiddle: at least if you're running a debug build or with debugging enabled
[20:38] <Fyodorovna> glixed, fresh install, has it worked, have you checked additional drivers?
[20:39] <Rory> mihok: what is the output of "sudo service openvpn status"
[20:39] <tjbiddle> gordonjcp: But I like to follow best practices :-) Just wanted to get a general opinion. What would you expect that to be? But true, it's not a huge deal in my exact scenario.
[20:39] <mihok> Rory, its unrecognized service because ive mounted the hard drive with the service issues to /mnt
[20:40] <gordonjcp> tjbiddle: I don't want to pry into your business practices, but I'd say that anyone using an internal app has rather less expectation of privacy
[20:40] <Rory> mihok: Oh if it's an Amazon-specific thing I don't know. Sorry.
[20:41] <Rory> !RAID | bucketm0use have you read the information here on RAID?
[20:41] <mihok> It's not amazon specific, I just need a way that I can remove a service without using commands or a gui, like can I delete some file or something?
[20:41] <gordonjcp> tjbiddle: furthermore if they are using a development version of something it's not unreasonable to expect them to put up with more logging and user surveillance
[20:41] <Rory> mihok: "Remove" a service isn't a thing, could you re-phrase it? You want to uninstall openvpn? Or stop a service that's running?
[20:41] <tjbiddle> gordonjcp: Fair enough, thanks!
[20:41] <gordonjcp> tjbiddle: you can tell the users that there's extensive logging going on
[20:41] <gordonjcp> tjbiddle: keeps you right I suppose
[20:42] <maveas> ? Regarding auto install of server: I'm trying to include a preseed.cfg on my ISO but the installer doesn't load the preseed file (the documentation says that including the preseed.cfg on the root of the ISO will auto load it. Any ideas?
[20:42] <mihok> Rory, basically I guess uninstall openvpn on a harddrive thats been mounted, so not through apt-get
[20:44] <gordonjcp> tjbiddle: if users *are* unhappy about the logging then you can give them some means to start either a debug-enabled or non-debug version
[20:44] <qlixed> quit
[20:44] <gordonjcp> tjbiddle: and make it clear that if they run a non-debug version, they're a) not helping you get the app working properly and b) when they have problems they might not get answers
[20:45] <mrrcp> kill the pid and remove the openvpn
[20:45] <mrrcp> folder
[20:45] <Dr_Willis> mihok:  if its using upstart and its a upstart managed service. you just rename the servicename.conf file to be like servicvename.dontrun in /etc/init/
[20:45] <Dr_Willis> mihok:  the 'upstart cookbook' gives details
[20:45] <tjbiddle> gordonjcp: I was going to have a configuration file that has something like `log_to_file=true/false`, defaulting to true - And will pass along an installation method noting that this can be changed at the users' whim. I'll keep the logging down to <200 lines or something, just so it's available if something craps out, they can send it to me.
[20:46] <kameha> hello
[20:46] <mrrcp> hi
[20:46] <tjbiddle> gordonjcp: In this case in particular, they'd almost all be willing to help get things working properly - so I probably won't see much of a complaint. I guess if this were a public application, I could do the same thing - just default the logging to file to false. If they run into issues they could enable it and then next time the issue occurs pass along the information.
[20:46] <gordonjcp> tjbiddle: yup
[20:47] <kameha> I will have to come here often, now as I'm a new ubuntu user
[20:47] <AcidRain2012> why not idle here forever?
[20:47] <kameha> good idea :)
[20:48] <AcidRain2012> ;0
[20:48] <AcidRain2012> ;)*
[20:48] <kameha> nice to meet you
[20:48] <Quantumpants> hi guys ang girls
[20:48] <mrrcp> howdy
[20:49] <Quantumpants> can anybody advise me?
[20:49] <kyle___> Quantumpants: Don't ask to ask, ask your question.
[20:50] <maveas> ? Experience with kickstart vs. preseed?
[20:50] <ekool> maveas: Use the right tool for the job depending on what job your trying to accomplish.
[20:50] <Quantumpants> I want to help the community but i have no programming skills. what can i do?
[20:50] <mrrcp> Quantumpants: ?
[20:50] <SoundsFromSound> You can do plenty Quantumpants :)
[20:51] <Quantumpants> SoundsFromSound ?
[20:51] <mrrcp> Quantumpants: LEARN and help.
[20:51] <kalekip1> !expert | Quantumpants
[20:52] <SoundsFromSound> You can do a lot to help Ubuntu, you don't need to be a programmer. You could offer any type of support, share the distro, encourage free software,  spread the word, etc.
[20:52] <maveas> ekool: Well, I've been trying to create a custom ISO with my own preseed.cfg file to install local servers in my VirtualBox environment but the ISO doesn't load the preseed.cfg despite all my efforts.
[20:52] <ekool> maveas: okay and what is the problem
[20:52] <maveas> ekool: That the installer doesn't use my preseed file?
[20:53] <ekool> maveas: you can pass the preseed file multiple ways... i prefer to extract the iso, mount it via loop, then modify it then make the iso again...
[20:53] <ekool> maveas: this URL has a walk through of it: http://razvangavril.com/linux-administration/custom-ubuntu-server-iso/
[20:53] <Quantumpants> SoundsFromSound thanks
[20:53] <mydog2> hey...
[20:53] <maveas> ekool: I did that: Added preseed.cfg to the root, added md5sum to the md5sum file
[20:54] <cipherson> Hey people, how are we today? lots of issues?
[20:54] <mydog2> anyone here a guru at ssh - ssh using ssh pub/priv keys to connect to centos?
[20:54] <maveas> ekool: I tried to specify the preseed file in the boot options.. nothing happens. I'll take a quick look at you link.
[20:54] <cipherson> mydog what are you trying to do?
[20:54] <ekool> maveas: i've never just dumped the preeseed in the root, i prefer to pass it via the append option on the kernel boot parameter
[20:55] <mydog2> i've got a weird issue, where I can't seem to implement pub/private keys between a centos client connecting to a ubuntu vm... using ssh pub/private keys
[20:55] <Quantumpants> Ok, as a newbe wanting to know how to program how do I start?
[20:55] <cipherson> mydog2, so your connectingfrom centOS to and ubuntu machine using ssh keys correct?
[20:55] <kostkon> Quantumpants, for ubuntu? start here:  http://developer.ubuntu.com/
[20:55] <mydog2> i've created the pub/priv keys.. added the files in the correct dirs...
[20:56] <maveas> ekool: Should't be the same as specifying the file via the boot options?
[20:56] <mydog2> looked over various articles from people who've had issues..
[20:56] <mydog2> cipherson, - that's what i'm aiming for! i've done the same thing with centos to centos
[20:56] <cipherson> mydog2 can you access the ubuntu machine from another system with the keys?
[20:56] <ekool> maveas: Well, the method your using isn't working, I've never tried that way. I've used this and it works. All I know /me shrugs....
[20:56] <maveas> ekool: k, I'll give it a try. :)
[20:57] <mydog2> cipherson,  - haven't got a way to test that
[20:57] <cipherson> hmm
[20:57] <Quantumpants> thanks KostKon
[20:57] <mydog2> cipherson,  - i can ssh/passwd into the ub from the centos though..
[20:57] <maveas> mydog2: does the sshd accept keys? (/etc/ssh/sshd_config)
[20:58] <cipherson> mydog2, that sounds like the ubuntu system is not setup correctly for ssh keys
[20:58] <maveas> mydog2: did you copy the key correctly? (try use ssh-copy-id)
[20:58] <mydog2> maveas,  - i assumed so. as a default.. but i didn't check.. what's the attribute for that?
[20:58] <dankest> I'm writing a bash script to run a ruby script inside of a screen.  I'm using this syntax, but if doesn't create a new screen session!  screen -d -m -S shard_11 "SHARD_ID=11 bundle exec ruby bin/pnapi_server.rb -svp 9008"
[20:58] <cipherson> mydog2, ssh-copy-id <username>@<host>
[20:59] <sobczyk_> is it ok to use saucy kernel packages in raring?
[20:59] <cipherson> see here
[20:59] <cipherson> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[20:59] <dankest> Any I doing anythin obviously wrong?
[20:59] <bsdbandit> any kernel hackers in this channel
[20:59] <maveas> mydog2: RSAAuthentication yes
[20:59] <maveas> PubkeyAuthentication yes
[20:59] <bsdbandit> hacking on the ubuntu kernel
[20:59] <bsdbandit> ?
[20:59] <maveas> mydog2: I assume you are using RSA..
[20:59] <Quantumpants> thanks for the help guys
[20:59] <bsdbandit> np
[20:59] <bsdbandit> 0_0
[21:00] <cipherson> dankest>, just a sec  im confirming
[21:00] <maveas> mydog2: remember to reload the config (service ssh reload)
[21:00] <dankest> cipherson: thanks
[21:01] <cipherson> dankest, whats the full command you want to run?
[21:01] <wylde> dankest: bin/pnapi_server.rb ----> /bin/pnapi_server.rb ? Probably not starting since it can't find the ruby script
[21:01] <dankest> SHARD_ID=11 bundle exec ruby bin/pnapi_server.rb -svp 9008
[21:01] <Fyodorovna> sobczyk_, You wont have support here if there is a problem technically is all.
[21:01] <cipherson> dankest and this command works correctly out of screen right?
[21:02] <djdduty> Hello everyone!
[21:02] <dankest> cipherson: Tried changing path, no effect
[21:02] <dankest> and yeah, it works outside of screen
[21:02] <djdduty> Good, it's working, I am having an issue.
[21:02] <dankest> wait
[21:02] <dankest> yeah
[21:02] <dankest> haha
[21:02] <dankest> it works outside screen
[21:02] <dankest> if I just run the command, my script runs
[21:03] <mydog2> let me test more..
[21:03] <cipherson> dankest, do screen -ls and see if it created a screen at all
[21:03] <cipherson> there might be an error inside it
[21:03] <cipherson> if there is one
[21:03] <djdduty> Just instaleld ubuntu 12.04, target system, so I need to get my program compiling on it, basically I installed libglfw2 and libglew1.6, but I cannot find the damned header files ANYWHERE, especially not in /usr/include/GL/ like they are supposed to be, so how do I check the install script of the packages to see where they put them?
[21:03] <dankest> cipherson: it did not
[21:03] <cipherson> hmm
[21:03] <djdduty> I tried using find, but it cannot find them.
[21:04] <djdduty> what good is a dev package without headers?
[21:04] <dankest> cd ..
[21:04] <maveas> mydog2: Let me know how it goes :)
[21:04] <dankest> whoops
[21:04] <djdduty> nevermind
[21:04] <djdduty> ignore me
[21:04] <Jordan_U> djdduty: Neither of the two packages you mentioned are -dev packages.
[21:04] <cipherson> dankest, try without the -S shard_11
[21:05] <djdduty> I answered my own question.
[21:05] <djdduty> Jordan_U: yes I know, I answered my own question as soon as I said that.
[21:05] <djdduty> Jordan_U: sorry, I come from Arch, where everything is perfect(for me) :P
[21:05] <cipherson> dankest, try only with the -d -m flags
[21:05] <Fyodorovna> !cookie | djdduty
[21:05] <djdduty> no offense to you guys, I just never used ubuntu
[21:05] <dankest> cipherson: nope
[21:06] <dankest> cipherson: still no new screen on -ls
[21:06] <cipherson> sec
[21:06] <Fyodorovna> lol you helped yourself djdduty
[21:06] <dankest> cipherson: kk.  Thank you so mmuch for your help
[21:06] <cuddylier> Anyone know why a screen appears to stop allowing me type in it after having it active for a while? I always detach before closing Putty etc or going inactive.
[21:07] <cuddylier> I have to stop the process and start it again for me to be able to type in the screen, I can see the output from the process fine
[21:07] <Fyodorovna> cuddylier, might be timing out.
[21:07] <cuddylier> Fyodorovna If I reopen SSH I still can't type
[21:07] <cipherson> ok dankest try this screen -dmS "command"
[21:08] <cuddylier> I can detach the screen while it's like this though
[21:08] <Fyodorovna> not sure
[21:08] <dankest> cipherson: I get: Must run suid root for multiuser support.
[21:08] <dankest> I could run it sudo, but none of my ruby stuff is installed under that user.
[21:09] <zico> j
[21:09] <cipherson> ok dankest try this screen -dmS shared "command"
[21:09] <maveas> ekool: Doesn't work.. :/
[21:09] <cipherson> shared would been the screen name to share
[21:09] <dankest> cipherson: no new screen instace.
[21:09] <dankest> Command went though
[21:09] <cipherson> hmmm try this
[21:10] <cipherson> ok dankest try this screen -dmS shared "echo test"
[21:10] <cipherson> simple test
[21:10] <dankest> cipherson: nothing
[21:10] <jm__> \join #debian
[21:10] <dankest> command ran, but nothing happened.  Back at $
[21:10] <dankest> jm__: other slash :)
[21:11] <cipherson> weird with both S or no S i got screens
[21:11] <dankest> wtf
[21:11] <cipherson> your got screen installed right ? just making sure
[21:11] <dankest> haha yeah
[21:11] <dankest> I'm running a bunch of them
[21:11] <cipherson> hmmmm sec
[21:11] <dankest> I'm just trying to bash script this so I need them in a single line form
[21:12] <dankest> Maybe I need to update screen?
[21:12] <dankest> I'm running 2-may-06
[21:12] <cipherson> you can try that
[21:12] <cipherson> i got the same one tho
[21:12] <cipherson> try without the s
[21:12] <cipherson> ok dankest try this screen -dm "echo test"
[21:13] <hayer_> "netstat -i" output seems to be malformed, or is the flag something like "0 BMRU" and "0 LRU"?
[21:13] <dankest> cipherson: closer, now I have this
[21:13] <dankest> 11849.echo test	(09/17/2013 02:13:12 PM)	(Detached)
[21:13] <dankest> when I resume it though, there's nothing going on inside
[21:13] <cipherson> O.o that better sign
[21:13] <dankest> *attach it
[21:14] <cipherson> i see whats happening 1 sec
[21:14] <dankest> <3
[21:14] <hayer_> Because it is supposed to return "MTU Met", "RX-OK", "RX-ERR", "RX-DRP", "RX-OVR", "TX-OK", "TX-ERR", "TX-DRP", "TX-OVR", "Flg", right? Cause if I align them I get "0  BMRU" and "0  LRU" as "flg"
[21:15] <cipherson> ok dankest here the thing you must do, its a 2 part command
[21:16] <djdduty> oh, nastly looking error, undefined reference to 'clock_gettime@GLIBC_2.17'
[21:16] <djdduty> this seems like it is going to be a pain.
[21:16] <cipherson> just testing it
[21:16] <dankest> kk
[21:16] <dankest> Thanks again
[21:16] <ANN-TechCoder> Guys, can anyone help - I can't seem to get all my Windows to save position and size.
[21:19] <cariveri> Hey. after upgrade there are a lot of app icons missing. how can I get them back?
[21:19] <cipherson> dankest still here just trying on my side
[21:19] <dankest> kk
[21:24] <itanshi> hello, is there a definitive guide for touch screen driver support for ubuntu?
[21:25] <djdduty> fixed it
[21:26] <c0nfusedLubunter> Can someone tell me, can i somewhere find the "clipboard file"? Actually, does it event exist as a file? Where is the data stored when you CTRL + C?
[21:26] <cipherson> dankest, screen -dmt "test" bash -c 'while true;do date; sleep 2; done'
[21:26] <cipherson> test is the title
[21:26] <cipherson> bash -c 'command'
[21:27] <cipherson> the command i have outputs the date every 2 secs to test
[21:28] <bekks> cipherson: In your RAM.
[21:28] <dankest> cipherson: thanks!@
[21:28] <cipherson> worked?
[21:28] <cipherson> lol
[21:29] <cipherson> bekks? sup
[21:29] <bekks> cipherson: Ah, I mistabbed. :)
[21:29] <cipherson> Lol np :P
[21:29] <bekks> c0nfusedLubunter: In your RAM.
[21:30] <mydog2> ok.. oh ubuntu gods!!! i changed the strictmodes from yes to no.. and managed to get the keys working.. so, does this point to a perms issue on ubuntu within the ssh dir structure.. and if it does.. what/where can i get specific (like a 6th grader) docs on just what the prems/owner of the dirs/files should be..
[21:30] <c0nfusedLubunter> bekks: Is it somehow accessible as a "file" ?
[21:30] <gordonjcp> mydog2: what exactly are you trying to do?
[21:30] <cipherson> mydog2, whats the error
[21:31] <bekks> c0nfusedLubunter: Nope. Because it is available as clipboard.
[21:31] <mydog2> hey cipherson  the previous err was Permission denied (publickey).
[21:32] <cipherson> did the user that is accessing the login create the file?
[21:32] <mydog2> but once i changed the strictmodes per a couple of articles.. the keys worked
[21:32] <augustrush> My computer lost power and now wont boot. Do i have to do a fresh install?
[21:33] <mydog2> cipherson,  was that for me.. and if it was.. no.. i created the keys on a separate machine..
[21:33] <funky> hey folks,  I am using windows soft to upload stuff in bulk to ubuntu, I got sftp user setup and it works with winscp, when I click on test connection it says yes working, when it comes to upload it says permission denied
[21:33] <funky> what can it be?
[21:33] <mydog2> and i pushed the pub key over to the ubuntu, where i then sshed in as the "user" that i'll be sshing as
[21:33] <cipherson> mydog2, run sudo chown username sshkeyfile
[21:34] <cipherson> got to make sure the user logging in owns the file
[21:34] <wylde> funky: the permissions on the target directory.
[21:34] <dankest> cipherson: ah, it works with date but not with my ruby script
[21:34] <mydog2> cipherson, on the ubuntu.. there's only the authorized_keys file.. is that the file you want the data on?
[21:34] <dankest> cipherson: maybe it's the env var I'm pasing in?
[21:34] <mydog2> there's no id_rsa.pub file
[21:35] <cipherson> dankest, the var your passing the command should be like this var="dlhfds"; command
[21:35] <dankest> screen -dmt "test" bash "SHARD_ID=3; bundle exec ruby pnapi/bin/pnapi_server.rb -svp 9000"
[21:35] <cipherson> mydog2, when do you see this error ? when your logging in?
[21:35] <cipherson> dankest, yea like that
[21:36] <cipherson> your missing-c
[21:36] <BruceS> I have disabled kernel 3.2.0-053 and reverted to 052 on my many 12.04.3 systems since the later one causes the system to hang from time to time.  Have I cut myself off from upgrades and security patches?
[21:36] <cipherson> screen -dmt "test" bash -c "SHARD_ID=3; bundle exec ruby pnapi/bin/pnapi_server.rb -svp 9000"
[21:36] <cipherson> -c = command
[21:36] <adac> someone familiar with samba server config? I have the folleing configuration: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6600861 Problems are: I cannot access as a guest. Second problme ist that the share is not visible on the network, only when i directly access the samba share via ip adress. Any ideas?
[21:36] <mydog2> cipherson,  - yeah... when i do the ssh into the box...
[21:36] <dankest> cipherson: nada :(((
[21:36] <eugenio> hello guys, I have problem with my ubuntu, after boot I have the message “The system is running in low-graphics mode”, what can I do?
[21:37] <cipherson> mydog2, try and copy the key over again should be the public one
[21:37] <cipherson> dankest, whats in the window? and error?
[21:37] <dankest> Doesn't instantiate a screen
[21:37] <dankest> no error
[21:38] <cipherson> ok lets seen
[21:38] <cipherson> see*
[21:38] <dankest> screen -dmt "test" bash -c "SHARD_ID=3; bundle exec ruby pnapi/bin/pnapi_server.rb -svp 9000"
[21:39] <cipherson> dankest, the issue is once the command stops the screen will terminate and we don't see an error, try this screen -dmt "test" bash -c "SHARD_ID=3; bundle exec ruby pnapi/bin/pnapi_server.rb -svp 9000 > /tmp/script_message.log"
[21:39] <cipherson> maybe this output file will shed some light
[21:39] <mydog2> cipherson, - yeah.. all i do.. is scp it.. and then clear out the auth keyfile.. and then cat the pub file to append it to the authkeyfile.
[21:40] <cipherson> mydog2, try and follow this to test, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SSH/OpenSSH/Keys
[21:40] <cipherson> make the keys on the server your logging into
[21:41] <MelRay> I'm installing the multimedia extras from command line and it is wanting to configure ttf-mscorefonts-installer and it is stuck. I have scrolled to the bottom of the text hit enter no joy..anyone know how to tell it to proceed?
[21:41] <cipherson> just to make sure the settings are right
[21:42] <cipherson> dankest, anything from that file?
[21:42] <dankest> yeah
[21:42] <dankest> bad path, it's working now!
[21:42] <cipherson> :P
[21:42] <DangyDingo> Hey guys I'm looking for a terminal server that works more like windows terminal services than VNC is there any suggestions?
[21:43] <funky> wylde I checked permissions sftp user owns directory
[21:43] <funky> and directories under it
[21:43] <cipherson> dankest, hope you learn something about screens / troubleshooting today :P
[21:43] <dankest> nope, still not working
[21:43] <dankest> fuck
[21:43] <dankest> lol
[21:43] <cipherson> @@@
[21:43] <dankest> I'm learning a lot!
[21:43] <FloodBot1> dankest: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:43] <dankest> But still frustrated as hell
[21:43] <Mega1> an error encountered while prosessing openssh server and client
[21:43] <Mega1> how can i fix this
[21:43] <cipherson> dankest can you talk still?
[21:44] <tehpwnz> skype keeps crashing with this error: ALSA lin control.c:953:(snd_ctl_open_noupdate) invalid CTL sysdefault
[21:44] <tehpwnz> *lib
[21:44] <cipherson> FloodBot attacked you
[21:44] <cipherson> anyone able to allow dankest to talk ?
[21:44] <dankest> haha yeah
[21:44] <dankest> I can talk
[21:44] <dankest> Right?
[21:44] <cipherson> oh ok
[21:44] <wylde> funky: that's the only reason I can think of it wouldn't work.
[21:44] <cipherson> yea
[21:44] <tenc> haha
[21:45] <cipherson> ok is there a new error?
[21:45] <tenc> what's the error Mega1?
[21:45] <dankest> cipherson: nothing is being written to the log file
[21:45] <cipherson> and the screen is blank?
[21:45] <dankest> well
[21:46] <dankest> when I get an error from the ruby script because I'm in the wrong directory, I see in in the log.
[21:46] <dankest> When I run the command in the right directory, I get nothing and no new screen
[21:46] <cipherson> how are you running in the correct dir
[21:46] <dankest> I cd'd to it
[21:46] <dankest> I could include a cd in the bash command
[21:47] <cipherson> try this
[21:47] <cipherson>  screen -dmt "test" bash -c "cd path; SHARD_ID=3; bundle exec ruby pnapi/bin/pnapi_server.rb -svp 9000 > /tmp/script_message.log"
[21:47] <cipherson> change the path
[21:48] <cipherson> so the command will change dir before running
[21:48] <funky> who knows where I can check sftp errors log?
[21:48] <cipherson> funky, what server are you running for it
[21:48] <dankest> cipherson: no output, no screen
[21:50] <mydog2> cipherson,  - thanks guy... it was a permissions deal...
[21:50] <funky> cipherson:  cloud ubuntu
[21:50] <cipherson> dankest try this screen -dmt "test" bash -c "exec > /tmp/script_message.log 2>&1; cd path; SHARD_ID=3; bundle exec ruby pnapi/bin/pnapi_server.rb -svp 9000"
[21:50] <cipherson> mydog2, np
[21:50] <cipherson> this will log more stuff to that file
[21:51] <cipherson> funky, sorry never used that :(
[21:51] <funky> ok
[21:52] <dankest> Okay, that worked and my script is running
[21:52] <dankest> Can I get rid of the log?
[21:52] <cipherson> yup
[21:52] <dankest> how?
[21:52] <dankest> what does exec > do?
[21:53] <cipherson> exec > logfile 2>&1 will send all  standard output and standard error to a file
[21:53] <L1mer1ck> Kali Linux Live USB Install using Win32 Disk Imager (windows) or dd command on linux box not working for me. I get black screen.
[21:53] <cipherson> very nice for error logging
[21:53] <L1mer1ck> Anyone else experience this?
[21:53] <cipherson> you can remove the command and try
[21:53] <dankest> cipherson: once I remove log, the screen command stops working
[21:54] <k1l_> !kali | L1mer1ck
[21:54] <cipherson> if not make the log file /dev/null and this will just send it to nothing
[21:54] <L1mer1ck> Solution?
[21:54] <cipherson> dankest make the file /dev/null
[21:54] <k1l_> L1mer1ck: its not supported in here since its not ubuntu
[21:54] <L1mer1ck> sorry ty
[21:54] <cipherson> this is the black hole for information to go away
[21:54] <dankest> screen still gone
[21:54] <dankest> wtf
[21:54] <cipherson> hmm
[21:55] <cipherson> with the file it works?
[21:55] <dankest> Nope, now it's not working at all
[21:55] <dankest> fuck
[21:55] <cipherson> ok ok i think i know
[21:55] <dankest> And the screen isn't called test, it's named after my session
[21:55] <k1l_> dankest: please dont swear in here. keep it family friendly
[21:55] <cipherson> do this ps aux | grep ruby
[21:55] <cipherson> do you see your command?
[21:56] <dankest> nope
[21:56] <cipherson> whats -svp 9000?
[21:56] <cipherson> port ?
[21:56] <dankest> k1l_: for sure, sorry
[21:56] <dankest> yeah
[21:56] <dankest> port
[21:56] <cipherson> ok i bet
[21:56] <cipherson> that us calling this over and over is locking the port
[21:56] <yekta> Can someone help me understand why am I getting a gcc error `gcc: internal compiler error: Killed (program cc1)` while installing Ruby?  I'm on Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS, I've tried upgrading gcc from 4.6 to 4.7, still get the same error: https://gist.github.com/dwickwire/71846641944620f86f9b
[21:57] <cipherson> does it have to be thatone?
[21:57] <cipherson> if so we can clear it
[21:57] <dankest> Changed it to something random, still no process for it
[21:57] <io______> any reason why a .sh won t launch the script but instead opens gedit? I ve chmod +x it
[21:57] <cipherson> !!! this is so random
[21:57] <dankest> I know
[21:57] <dankest> It's driving me nuts
[21:57] <cipherson> go back to what worked and try a new name
[21:58] <cipherson> if you have a screen with the same name it will auto rename it
[21:58] <cipherson> i think*
[21:58] <dankest> Is there another program I can use to make this easier?
[21:58] <cipherson> well
[21:59] <dankest> Like, I really dont care about screen
[21:59] <dopstar> io______, are you clicking on the script?
[21:59] <dankest> I just need to be able to spin these processes up in a shell script
[21:59] <BruceS> .
[21:59] <io______> dopstar: double click sure
[21:59] <dankest> and not have them die if I log out of the machine
[21:59] <cipherson> screen is the best bet for this
[21:59] <dankest> damn
[21:59] <cipherson> try putting the command in script
[21:59] <dopstar> io______, check your nautilus settings
[21:59] <cipherson> script file
[22:00] <cipherson> and call the script file
[22:00] <dankest> Why would it work in a script but not at the command line?
[22:00] <cipherson> have no clue the issue is i don't know what your command does *
[22:00] <dankest> it runs a ruby script
[22:00] <dankest> sorry
[22:00] <cipherson> yea never used ruby ::P
[22:00] <dankest> has to be in the right dir
[22:00] <io______> dopstar: thank you
[22:00] <dankest> oh lol
[22:01] <Guest51056> jdfyg
[22:01] <Guest51056> whops
[22:01] <dopstar> io______, go to Preferences, the go to the Behavior tab and then choose the "Run executable files when they are opened" option
[22:01] <cipherson> try this real quick
[22:01] <ezzatovich> Hi, can i ask support questions right here ?
[22:01] <cipherson> just runn screen, then the command
[22:01] <cipherson> see if it works right
[22:01] <io______> dopstar: tx, i am sure before 13.04 it was by default on ask what to do
[22:02] <cipherson> to disconnect the screen do CTRL + A+ D
[22:02] <dopstar> ezzatovich, yes you can
[22:02] <dopstar> io______, usually its ask what to do option
[22:02] <efE> sweg
[22:02] <efE> sweg
[22:02] <efE> sweg
[22:02] <efE> sweg
[22:02] <efE> sweg
[22:02] <FloodBot1> efE: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:02] <ezzatovich> I kinda made the worst command i have ever used, i wrote chmod -R 777 /*   . chmod -R 775 /* . chmod -R 750 /*
[22:03] <dopstar> efE, on you
[22:03] <io______> dopstar: yes, that s why i was puzzled about htis behavior i didn t even know about the settings in nautilus
[22:03] <cipherson> dankest, anything?
[22:03] <zdot> so, about unity
[22:03] <efE> sweg
[22:03] <efE> sweg
[22:03] <kostkon> efE, grow up
[22:03] <kostkon> bye..
[22:03] <dopstar> io______, first thing i usually change on nautilus is to switch from double click to single click
[22:04] <egEG> swegbitches
[22:04] <egEG> swegbitches
[22:04] <egEG> swegbitches
[22:04] <egEG> swegbitches
[22:04] <egEG> swegbitches
[22:04] <FloodBot1> egEG: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:04] <zdot> there is that issue that when i run skype and i close it's window it stays in tray but dissapears from the launchbar so it's bit impossible to bring up it's main window without restarting it
[22:04] <kostkon> !ops | egEG is a spammer/flooder
[22:04] <ezzatovich> now i am not able to log in as a root and i can't mount any media device
[22:04] <ezzatovich> guys please help
[22:04] <dankest> cipherson: yeah, running the command in screen works fine
[22:04] <zdot> i'm keeping skype on my lanuch bar because of that
[22:05] <zdot> launchbar*
[22:05] <kostkon> zdot, yeah, one word: skype-wrapper
[22:06] <zdot> ezzatovich: sudo
[22:06] <Ben64> ezzatovich: not sure how to fix that. but you should really be careful what you do as root
[22:06] <kostkon> zdot, it has a ppa, if you search for it. highly recommended
[22:06] <zdot> kostkon: what has ppa? that skype-wrapper?
[22:06] <dankest> could I just attach, run command, then detach screen in bash?
[22:06] <ezzatovich> @zdot actually i am not able to do any sudo commands anymore
[22:06] <kostkon> zdot, yes
[22:06] <dankest> can I emulate contr0l-a c in bash?
[22:06] <zdot> ezzatovich: live system + chroot
[22:06] <ejv> ezzatovich: i recommend you reinstall asap
[22:07] <zdot> tehn change the passwords
[22:07] <cipherson> dankest ummm
[22:07] <ejv> no, if he actually chmoded his entire environment, he's compromised the integrity of his system; time to re-install.
[22:07] <zdot> kostkon: yeah but i'm bit dissapointed that some aps don't integrate that well with unity ootb
[22:07] <zdot> some big apps, like skype is
[22:08] <ezzatovich> @zdot so i don't have any other option than reinstall
[22:08] <zdot> ezzatovich: yes you have
[22:08] <Minelli_> Good night, someone would know me know if it is possible to create an include file in fstab.
[22:08] <Minelli_> Example: (/ etc / fstab)
[22:08] <Minelli_> # include / path / file
[22:08] <zdot> ezzatovich: you can run a live system, mount the hdd system and chroot into it
[22:08] <kostkon> zdot, it does with skype-wrapper
[22:08] <zdot> tehn you can change your passwords
[22:08] <zdot> kostkon: yes i understand but it's not ootb then
[22:09] <kostkon> zdot, yeah, i know
[22:09] <zdot> but then again, skype is written with qt
[22:09] <ethan_> hey guys, so I installed Lubuntu 13.04 on my sisters netbook at my house using a wi-fi connection and now the computer won't connect to a Wi-Fi network at her house.  Can anyone help me fix this?
[22:10] <ethan_> I assume it has something to do with administrative privileges, but I don't know the right terminal commands.
[22:14] <ethan_> can anyone help me connect to a wifi network on lubuntu?
[22:15] <zdot> i have no idea how lubuntu wifi applet looks like
[22:15] <zdot> ethan_: i can guide you how to do that via the console if you would like to
[22:16] <Minelli_> 	 Good night, someone would know me know if it is possible to create an include file in fstab. Example: (/ etc / fstab) # include / path / file?
[22:16] <dhyana> 3m
[22:16] <zdot> Minelli_: man fstab
[22:16] <zdot> brb
[22:17] <Minelli_> zdot: I'll take a look, thanks.
[22:17] <cipherson> dankest i PM'ed u
[22:17] <dankest> cipherson
[22:17] <dankest> I think I got it working..
[22:17] <dankest> restarted the machine and everything is perfect...
[22:17] <dhyana> i
[22:18] <cipherson> really?
[22:19] <dankest> yeah.
[22:19] <cipherson> dankest go to my pm i got nicer stuff
[22:19] <dankest> No idea.
[22:19] <dankest> Just a sec, I have PMs disabled
[22:19] <cipherson> oh well..
[22:19] <cipherson> lol
[22:19] <ethan_> that sounds good zdot
[22:19] <ethan_> sorry i had to use the restroom
[22:19] <dankest> send again?
[22:19] <ethan_> what's the console?
[22:20] <zdot> ethan_: google for using wpa supplicant but i belive the same hting can be done with lubuntu grphicall tools
[22:21] <Sirisian|Work> what's the quick key in ubuntu to enter single user mode with that command line? (Not the terminal)
[22:21] <ethan_> thank you jimmy drangus
[22:21] <kalekip1> Sirisian|Work: What do you mean with single user mode?
[22:21] <ward_> i have a question about the lightdm on 13.04.  I was working to remove the dots from the lightdm screen but now the wallpaper is gone too.....How can I revers this?
[22:21] <Sirisian|Work> kalekip1, probably not the right terminology
[22:23] <zdot> Sirisian|Work: what command line
[22:24] <Sirisian|Work> zdot, the one without x running
[22:24] <zdot> Sirisian|Work: you can enter single user mode either by changing the runlevel or rebooting and entering single user mode but that's usually for maintenance
[22:24] <Sirisian|Work> reboot then doing what?
[22:25] <zdot> Sirisian|Work: choose single user mode in the boot menu
[22:25] <Sirisian|Work> in grub?
[22:25] <zdot> i belive ubuntu contains that
[22:25] <zdot> yes.
[22:26] <Rav3n> not sure if this would be better suited on ##linux or here, but, been recently having some issues with sudo. Atm, every time I use sudo, all terminals end up unresponsive, and new processes can't be started either, and shutdown breaks too. If I don't use sudo, everything works just fine. (13.04 x64 on mbp, worked fine on initial install, broke down after updating). Wondering if it's a known issue perhaps,
[22:26] <Rav3n> and/or how I can begin to diagnose the issue (no errors until it hangs, at which point I can't check the errors)
[22:27] <Mega1> can anyone help me with my error
[22:32] <Mega1> an error encountered while prosessing openssh server and client
[22:32] <wylde> Mega1: give us the exaCT ERROR PLEASE
[22:32] <zdot> Rav3n: weird
[22:32] <wylde> whoops caps
[22:32] <Rav3n> oh, and if I d/c, I should be back w/in 5 minutes; having sporadic connection issues recently xD (unrelated to ubuntu)
[22:32] <zdot> Rav3n: i'd fsck for start
[22:32] <cipherson> i got this message "Your edit request has been forwarded to #ubuntu-ops.  Thank you for your attention to detail" from ubottu ....what is it?
[22:32] <Mega1> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/openssh-server_1%3a5.9p1-5ubuntu1.1_i386.deb (--unpack):
[22:32] <Rav3n> zdot: any recommended flags that I should use for fsck?
[22:32] <zdot> Rav3n: -v maybe
[22:32] <zdot> Rav3n: also smartctl
[22:33] <wylde> Mega1: I suppose you could try sudo dpkg-reconfigure openssh-server although if it's having trouble unpacking it, the deb file may be corrupt.
[22:33] <wilee-nilee> cipherson, Context?
[22:34] <cipherson> nvm figured it out it was something i said in chat that triggered the chat bot
[22:36] <Mega1> wylde that did not do anything
[22:36] <augustrush> My computer lost power and now wont boot. Do i have to do a fresh install?
[22:36] <wylde> Mega1: same error?
[22:36] <bekks> augustrush: Which error do you get, exactly?
[22:36] <k1l_> augustrush: depends on the error you get. maybe its a hardware failure
[22:37] <kalekip1> augustrush: Laptop?
[22:37] <Rav3n> zdot: weird, finished pretty quick, don't think it found any errors, but, works fine o_O ; thanks I guess lol
[22:37] <Mega1> that command did give an error but when i do apt-get upgrade it does
[22:37] <zdot> Rav3n: humm
[22:37] <zdot> lol
[22:38] <augustrush> Yes, laptop. It hangs on netBios name server
[22:38] <wylde> Mega1: you have to provide details. No one but you can see your screen.
[22:38] <argoneus> Hello
[22:38] <argoneus> I think I may have done something wrong on my laptop when trying to dualboot windows/ubuntu
[22:38] <argoneus> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6121524/
[22:39] <argoneus> According to align-check opt, partition 3 is not aligned
[22:39] <Mega1> sorry that command did not give an error but when i did the upgrade same error
[22:40] <Ben64> Mega1: pastebin the whole thing
[22:41] <Mega1> would i not get kicked for flooding
[22:41] <Ben64> !pastebin
[22:43] <cipherson> anyone know a channel for VM related stuff on ubuntu? if there is one
[22:44] <compdoc> cipherson, there are a few VM packages
[22:44] <zdot> !channels
[22:44] <compdoc> to which are you referring?
[22:45] <cipherson> compdoc, im looking for help running MacOS in virtual box on Ubuntu
[22:45] <ndowens04> I have a new toshiba laptop, quad-core 6gb ram. AMD Radeon, I think it is the 1100 series. I booted ubuntu and lubuntu from usb but they both give me issue with the display. I tried running X -configure and it gives a error like drivers not found for the amount of devices found
[22:45] <kyle___> cipherson: basilliskII not sure if I'm spelling it right.
[22:45] <ezzatovich> @zdot i am now on the chroot would you please tell me what kind of permissions  i need to do to get access back
[22:45] <compdoc> I guess you could run the free Mac OS - version 6.0.3
[22:45] <compdoc> anything newer isnt exactly allowed by Apple
[22:45] <zdot> ndowens04: you need to run fglrx-config or something like that
[22:45] <kyle___> cipherson: There are plenty of disk images for it you can find online, up to 7.5 I think.
[22:45] <Mega1>  ok error pasted http://paste.ubuntu.com/6121542/
[22:46] <cipherson> kyle__, so far nothing will boot...
[22:46] <kyle___> compdoc: They've released through 7.x something on their website.  You can go higher without breaking lwas.
[22:46] <zdot> ezzatovich: just make sure you're root and type passwd
[22:46] <compdoc> cool
[22:46] <ndowens04> zdot thanks I will try that when I try again.
[22:46] <kyle___> cipherson: You've got a ROM, and a disk image, and it won't boot?
[22:46] <zdot> ezzatovich: it wont ask you for the old password, it will just prompt you twice for a new one
[22:47] <cipherson> kyle__, yup lol
[22:47] <zdot> ndowens04: but keep in mind you have to have catalyst installed to use that, it may be called aticonfig or fglrx-config or something similar, i can't recall now
[22:47] <kyle___> cipherson: Which image are you using?
[22:48] <cipherson> leohazard's one
[22:49] <augustrush> Bekks: it's a laptop that is hanging on netBios name server line during the boot process
[22:49] <ni638629> hi
[22:50] <zdot> hey
[22:50] <ni638629> i change mymjob
[22:50] <ni638629> i will do music to relax
[22:50] <ni638629> http://youtu.be/j6XAJjtRljw
[22:51] <ni638629> i hope you,like it
[22:51] <kyle___> cipherson: google for Starterdisk.hfv   See if it works at all for you.
[22:51] <cipherson> kyle__, will do thanks
[22:55] <arayaq> Hi. I have a laptop with no screen, only a external monitor. I installed with the mini iso a Lubuntu session but nothing appears in the screen after the grub. I managed to log in via cli, so the system works. How can I force the system to use the VGA port on startup? Also I have access to recoveey
[22:55] <arayaq> Recovery*
[22:55] <zdot> hehe i had to encrypt a home after i installed ubuntu yesterday
[22:55] <zdot> always a new experience
[22:56] <zdot> arayaq: so which screen works afer you boot to cli
[22:57] <wylde> arayaq: have you tried the laptops harware buttons for the display? eg Fn+F5
[22:58] <Kenjamin> Question: If i install ubuntu to a second hard drive, does it alter the MBR or can i just select which hard drive to boot from in the bios HDD select menu when i want to use linux?
[22:58] <Kenjamin> So I dont have to muck about with partitions
[22:58] <arayaq> zdot, none, I logged into tty1 and touched a file, then checked via recovery. Where the external monitor works
[22:58] <Kenjamin> and not have windows get jealous and screw up my MBR
[22:59] <arayaq> wylde, yes. Does not work
[23:00] <zdot> arayaq: try that what wylde suggested, if it wont work, well, i guess it's time to get new hardware
[23:00] <Mega1> any help with my error http://paste.ubuntu.com/6121542/
[23:01] <arayaq> zdot. The hw is ok. Just doesnt use VGA for some reason
[23:01] <k1l_> Mega1: you have PPAs enabled?
[23:02] <Mega1> i dont know
[23:03] <Kenjamin> anyone have an answer to my question? :(
[23:04] <ethan_> Okay I'll try this again.  I installed Lubuntu 13.04 on my sisters netbook using a wifi connection, and now whenever she tries to hook it up to a different wifi, each time she puts the password in, it doesn't authenticate.  What is the solution to this?
[23:08] <mshadle> anyone here do any prompt-less php apt installs (so it doesn't ask for php.ini overwrites)? i see no debconf-get-selections PHP options... i see a note about php.ini but no key/value/type to use
[23:09] <kyle___> cipherson: gotta go, but if/when you get it working, university of michigan hosts an archive of freeware shareware and open source software for classic mac.  http://www.umich.edu/~archive/mac/
[23:12] <_arayaq> Ok. Again. Screenless lappy, only VGA monitor, works fine in recovery mode but fails at a normal boot. I can blindedly log into tty and use the system. Any idea of how to force the system to use VGA instead of the inexisting notebook monitor?
[23:13] <zdot> _arayaq: does it display anything during the boot?>
[23:14] <_arayaq> zdot: yes, I can see the BIOS screen and the grub. Nothing after that, unless I select recovery.
[23:14] <joewscott> hey everyone. I am having trouble theming my desktop. I am running the gnome shell and downloaded kamino for gnome, but when I select it, the top bar goes black (default) and nothing changes.
[23:14] <joewscott> Any ideas?
[23:14] <k1l_> !nomodeset | _arayaq
[23:15] <joewscott> I'll check it out. Thank you.
[23:16] <joewscott> Well, I don't have a black screen.
[23:16] <zdot> _arayaq: select recovery, disable plymouth in grub and try booting again
[23:16] <OerHeks> joewscott, maybe you need to install some fonts http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Kamino?content=160706
[23:17] <c0nfusedLubunter> How to improve Youtube video performance? It's not bad, but i can see some minor rendering lag on 720p.
[23:17] <joewscott> how do I disable plymouth?
[23:17] <zdot> _arayaq: http://junktext.net/notes/Note04.txt this might be helpfull, you might also want setting a lower console resolution
[23:17] <joewscott> ohhh wrong message
[23:18] <joewscott> OerHeks, I have the fonts, i wish i could show a picture... uhh it's just the default toolbar
[23:18] <k1l_> joewscott: see the messages addressed to you. not everything is meant for you
[23:19] <joewscott> k1l_, right. sorry about that.
[23:20] <_arayaq> ubottu: ive tried nomodeset but after some boot up messages the screen goes off again
[23:21] <zdot> _arayaq: then you mast configure your X again
[23:21] <zdot> must*
[23:21] <_arayaq> zdot: ill try disabling plymouth
[23:21] <zdot> _arayaq: you can do it in txt recovery mode
[23:21] <zdot> _arayaq: no no, if it diplays boot after changing the res than just change the resolution
[23:21] <zdot> _arayaq: what's your grphic card model?
[23:23] <_arayaq> zdot: its an integrated intel. Everything was fine when the notebook had its own screen
[23:23] <zdot> _arayaq: which intel
[23:23] <c0nfusedLubunter> How to improve Youtube video performance? It's not bad, but i can see some minor rendering lag on 720p.
[23:24] <frankbro> I recently did a netinstall of 13.04 and Im trying to set up wicd as my network manager. The problem is the daemon fails to start but I have no clue where to look for an error. dmesg is empty, so is /var/log/syslog and /var/log/wicd
[23:24] <_arayaq> zdot: GM45, i think (Core 2 Duo micro)
[23:24] <zdot> frankbro: run wicd in verbose mode ommiting the start script and see what it tells you
[23:25] <zdot> _arayaq: you may want changing yuour defauld display in your xorg conf
[23:25] <frankbro> zdot, a python error, File Exists
[23:28] <zdot> what is the exact error?
[23:28] <zdot> error message*?
[23:28] <frankbro> I guess I can go further from this, thanks zdot
[23:28] <frankbro> OSError: [Errno 17] File exists
[23:28] <_arayaq> zdot: i did X -configure from recovery, but it fails
[23:28] <Mega1> any help with my error http://paste.ubuntu.com/6121542/
[23:28] <_arayaq> zdot: it says the screen numbers and the detected devices does not match
[23:28] <zdot> _arayaq: no, it did write a xorg.conf.new to /root anyway but you'll have to hardcode your default display there i think
[23:28] <zdot> _arayaq: also, when the screen goes blan you still probably can go alt+ctrl+f1 and login to text console
[23:28] <_arayaq> zdot: i took a look at the file, but it seemed like a dummy one
[23:28] <zdot> blank*
[23:29] <Curtisbeef1> noob question: I want to move over to using Ubuntu on computer(for web dev) my main drive is a SSD I have a 2TB storage drive that is NTFS. Is it not ideal to use NTFS as a storage/work drive in linux? Or will I be fine? I do do a lot of file manipulation on the drive.
[23:29] <_arayaq> zdot: also I was able to boot up PuppyLinux
[23:29] <zdot> Curtisbeef1: actually i use ntfs on my pc machine for storage all the time. ntfs-3g is kinda good
[23:29] <_arayaq> zdot: ill try to use the xorg.conf it generates
[23:30] <joewscott> I have a screenshot of the specific problem and what the toolbar looks like after I apply a theme. I can message it to anyone who has an idea of why the theme won't apply.
[23:30] <Curtisbeef1> zdot: so its fine to just stick with NTFS?
[23:31] <zdot> Curtisbeef1: it's always better to use linux filesystems with linux but i use ntfs for windows compatibility
[23:31] <zdot> Curtisbeef1: it works just fine, but it's not fully linux compatibile, obviously
[23:31] <Curtisbeef1> kk thanks ;)
[23:32] <zdot> ok, i think i'll have a tea
[23:33] <SyloSybin> Where can I find a good command cheat-sheet/list for Ubuntu 13.04? I am having trouble with locating one on google.
[23:33] <Kenjamin> Question: If i install ubuntu to a second hard drive, does it alter the MBR or can i just select which hard drive to boot from in the bios HDD select menu when i want to use linux?
[23:33] <ejv> SyloSybin: man <command>; best "cheat-sheet" you'll ever want or need.
[23:33] <Kenjamin> and not have windows get jealous and screw up my MBR
[23:34] <skinux> How can we set Backspace key to navigate to previous page in web browser?
[23:34] <SyloSybin> Ah thanks, I forgot about that. >_<
[23:34] <ejv> Kenjamin: if you install GRUB it will place it's own bootloader.
[23:52] <Sia-> hey, it's possible to install ubuntu on chromebook without this scripts or xubuntu?
[23:54] <x666MafiA> i need help trouble shooting my sys, i have both nemo and nautilus file managers installed, when i run either as gksudo/gksu they both constantly crash. I have tried runing from terminal but its not givving me any error msgs in terminal. Can someone tell me where i should too to debug the issue. Thanks ahead of time. ;)
[23:56] <zdot> x666MafiA: running a graphical file manager with admin prevelages may not be the best idea, however regardless of that they should not  crash
[23:57] <arayaq> x666MafiA: i think gksu is deprecated in 13.04+
[23:57] <SecretFire> i have linux mint cinnamon and a hd 7770 gpu, and cinnamon keeps on crashing, and reverting to fallback mode. How can I solve this?
[23:57] <zdot> !mint
[23:58] <x666MafiA> zdot, I know but its the easiest solutions for what i am doing at the moment and it is unbearable when they crash in less than a minute every time i have been doing work all day dealing with it and I am 5 minutes from suicide atm.
[23:58] <x666MafiA> arayaq, i know thats y i said gksudo/gksu
[23:59] <x666MafiA> gksu still works but they are phasing it out i always use gksudo but just wanted to let you know i have tried both
[23:59] <arayaq> x666MafiA: do they crash when not rooted?
[23:59] <x666MafiA> yup
[23:59] <x666MafiA> more often when rooted thouhg