| smartboyhw | Ovenwerks, zequence: Is the new wallpaper in? | 08:15 |
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| zequence | smartboyhw: Don't worry about it. If we don't add it, we just dont. | 09:13 |
| smartboyhw | zequence, OK. | 09:14 |
| zequence | OvenWerks: Just updated ubuntustudio-menu with new icons | 11:14 |
| zequence | micahg: Do you have time? We'd very much like to get lp:ubuntustudio-menu uploaded if possible :) | 11:15 |
| OvenWerks | zequence: did you also need to update the debian/copyright file? Your name is not in there for icons. | 13:33 |
| OvenWerks | It may be ok to leave Mish as the CR holder too. | 13:35 |
| zequence | OvenWerks: Yeah, I don't care about the copyright. It's enough his name is in htere | 13:37 |
| zequence | I just changed coloring pretty much. Some minor details | 13:37 |
| zequence | Continuing reorganizing our projects and blueprints. Things will be quite different from now on | 13:40 |
| zequence | OvenWerks: Get yourself an account on github.com, if you haven't already | 14:00 |
| zequence | OvenWerks: Let me know your username once you're done | 14:01 |
| zequence | OvenWerks: Another insurance, in case I get hit by a bus | 14:01 |
| zequence | I should just make a list of things first.. | 14:01 |
| OvenWerks | zequence: remind me tomorrow or email. today is busy as I have a gig after work. | 14:02 |
| zequence | OvenWerks: Sure. I need to do this properly later anyway. Might as well send you a complete list instead | 14:05 |
| madeinkobaia | Hi all : ) | 14:26 |
| cub | hello madeinkobaia | 14:28 |
| madeinkobaia | Hi cub. | 14:28 |
| cub | keeping busy? ;) | 14:29 |
| madeinkobaia | cub: Yep :) | 14:29 |
| madeinkobaia | cub: Do you know the required size (or ratio) for our default wallpaper ? | 14:31 |
| madeinkobaia | cub: Now maybe we don't have clear specifications about that. In that case I will make a 2560x1600 and a 1920x1080... | 14:36 |
| madeinkobaia | ...or maybe I could make a complete set-up with all ratio sizes (like that no problems of cropped picture). That brings another question : do we have any file size limits for our wallpaper package ? | 14:39 |
| cub | hmm I saw a guideline for that somewhere | 14:47 |
| cub | I even got a gimp template to try them out in different ratios and set up. But I can't find the link .. | 14:48 |
| madeinkobaia | cub: no worries, take a look on that if you have the time. | 14:48 |
| cub | well I should have the link somewhere, it's just a matter of finding out how i categorised it when I saved it. :D | 14:49 |
| madeinkobaia | :D | 14:49 |
| cub | nope can't find it. I might be xfce specifications though since it was when I was planning to do a xfce theme. All wallpaper I did then was according to the guideline I read and they are 2560x1600, so I'd go with that. | 14:54 |
| madeinkobaia | cub: Ok, lets go for the 2560x1600 ! About the xfce theme, did you planned to use a specific tool for create it, like a widget factory ? | 14:58 |
| cub | I never got that far. I started out with wallpaper, then to set window colouring, then I started to put in time in this group instead. :P | 14:59 |
| cub | I want a Solarized theme on my computers and there is none for xfce. | 14:59 |
| cub | Maybe next summer! | 15:00 |
| madeinkobaia | ;) | 15:00 |
| cub | So, when the WP is set we might set a look for the youtube vidoes? | 15:01 |
| madeinkobaia | For sure cub. No problems. In that way I would like to have all graphics specifications for that, mainly the required dimensions. I insist on that because Gimp don't allow to have a different size for export. So the native working size must be the export size. | 15:04 |
| madeinkobaia | Or...the opposite ;-) | 15:06 |
| cub | yeah, it's in the PDF I sent you, umm some weeks ago. But 1280x720 it is. To conform with the 720p quality on youtube. | 15:06 |
| cub | zequence also started up https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuStudio/YoutubeVideoFormat | 15:06 |
| madeinkobaia | Really ? Goin to see that... | 15:06 |
| madeinkobaia | Ok, I got all the info I need : ) | 15:07 |
| cub | did you find the email? Otherwise I can just forward it | 15:07 |
| cub | I sent it to your gmail-address though. | 15:08 |
| cub | oh crap, I'm late. :D gotta run | 15:08 |
| madeinkobaia | :D See ya ! | 15:09 |
| zequence | madeinkobaia: 1600x1200 is what we have been using lately | 15:17 |
| madeinkobaia | zequence: Hi Kaj, hum this ratio is really outdated now (check out on the web). | 15:18 |
| zequence | madeinkobaia: Which one do you propose? | 15:18 |
| madeinkobaia | zequence: The most usual now is a 16:10 ratio (size from 1440x900 to 2560x1600). | 15:19 |
| zequence | madeinkobaia: Ah, right. I meant 2560x1600 | 15:19 |
| madeinkobaia | zequence: Ok ;p | 15:20 |
| zequence | madeinkobaia: Did you make new versions of your wallpaper? | 15:20 |
| madeinkobaia | zequence: I tried few stuffs but the first I showed on the list stay the best one. I will test tomorrow morning a version including your suggestion to add a little colored part. | 15:22 |
| zequence | madeinkobaia: Ok. Tomorrow we really need to get it in, so we can get the package uploaded | 15:23 |
| madeinkobaia | zequence: No problems, you will have a 2560x1600 with .png (for a better quality) tomorrow. About the color : a blue touch could be certainly good. Now my first idea was to make a monochrome one for please to "everybody". | 15:27 |
| zequence | madeinkobaia: Blue always works :). There are so many shades of it too.. | 15:29 |
| zequence | Maybe better to try something else for 14.04 though :P | 15:29 |
| madeinkobaia | zequence: As I planned to do it, all will be anyway new for the 14.04. A complete and coherent brand new graphical design...a revolution :D | 15:32 |
| zequence | madeinkobaia: Many things will change for 14.04 :D | 15:36 |
| madeinkobaia | zequence: Now, we need to plan all that first...then I hope my enthusiasm will be catching ;p | 15:37 |
| madeinkobaia | zequence: For sure :) | 15:37 |
| zequence | madeinkobaia: I'm currently reorganizing all of our projects, source, blueprints and planning | 15:40 |
| zequence | There will be an announcement on the mail list shortly. Some things will change from before | 15:41 |
| madeinkobaia | zequence: Great. | 15:41 |
| OvenWerks | zequence: I missed madeinkobaia, I would suggest that whatever the size, the two sides should be non-critical content. I am not sure to what ratio... we can probably skip 4:3 I don't know that any computer/monitor made late enough studio will run on has vga... Although I am using one as a second screen on my netbook :) | 20:40 |
| zequence | OvenWerks: I was investigating projects, blueprints, series and milestones today. LP is slow. Takes many hours to just try some stuff | 21:46 |
| zequence | I was going to use different branches for different releases, but then thought about bzr tags | 21:46 |
| zequence | we haven't been using them. We should | 21:47 |
| zequence | each time we do a release of a source, we tag it | 21:47 |
| zequence | bzr tag 0.118 | 21:47 |
| zequence | and to see the tags: bzr tags | 21:47 |
| zequence | commits can already fill that function, but it's easier to keep track of tags for releases | 21:48 |
| zequence | With all our source, we could basically use milestones based on Ubuntu version releases, instead of the traditional source version releases. | 21:53 |
| zequence | -controls was organized after source version releases. One branch for each version. lp:ubuntustudio-controls/0.4, etc | 21:54 |
| zequence | I was going to do the same for all our source, except use Ubuntu versions, like lp:ubuntustudio-controls/14.04 | 21:55 |
| zequence | since, we don't know in advance which software version will be the ultimate released version. | 22:02 |
| zequence | hmm, however, now I just remembered | 22:02 |
| zequence | it's the problem with release based maintenance | 22:02 |
| zequence | either we fix bugs directly on the actual debian packages, that we get doing pull-lp-source, or apt-get source.., not doing any commits in the bzr source at all for stable Ubuntu release packages | 22:04 |
| zequence | ..or we keep different branches for different Ubuntu releases | 22:04 |
| zequence | for instance lp:ubuntustudio-menu/13.10, lp:ubuntustudio-menu/14.04 | 22:06 |
| zequence | We might as well. But, for the development branch, we just keep the trunk branch | 22:06 |
| zequence | and, we make tags for each released version of a package | 22:06 |
| OvenWerks | Sounds like a lot of overhead :) I was using letters for my snapshots. So if wer are woring towards 14.04 we might have 13.10+1a 13.10+1b etc. | 22:09 |
| OvenWerks | release would be 14.04, bug fixes could just be letters or 14.04.1 etc. | 22:10 |
| OvenWerks | So all commits up to release would be the old release +1. | 22:11 |
| zequence | OvenWerks: I think you're mixing up two things now | 22:12 |
| zequence | package versions is still the same | 22:12 |
| zequence | but, we could have different bzr branches for stable releases | 22:12 |
| zequence | so, for instance, ubuntustudio-meta-0.117 is the upcoming stable release for saucy | 22:13 |
| OvenWerks | If you prefer. | 22:13 |
| zequence | that would end up in a branch called lp:ubuntustudio-meta/14.04 | 22:13 |
| zequence | sorruy | 22:13 |
| zequence | that would end up in a branch called lp:ubuntustudio-meta/13.10 | 22:13 |
| zequence | then, if we do a bugfix to that package, we could work off the bzr branch, and the new released version would be 0.117-1 | 22:14 |
| OvenWerks | So we would start that branch (14.04) right after 13.10 was relesed? | 22:14 |
| OvenWerks | Or even after FF... | 22:14 |
| OvenWerks | somewhere like that. | 22:15 |
| zequence | or, we dont keep branches for stable releases. We just do bugfixes directly to the debian packages | 22:15 |
| OvenWerks | Ya that was what I meant | 22:15 |
| OvenWerks | I think... | 22:15 |
| zequence | the trunk is always the development release | 22:16 |
| zequence | we only create a new branch when there is a stable release | 22:16 |
| zequence | feature freeze is a good time to do that | 22:16 |
| OvenWerks | But if the version doesn't increment then it won't move or update | 22:16 |
| OvenWerks | -1 -2 would be fine. | 22:17 |
| zequence | Yeah, or -ubuntu0, or whatever is the standard | 22:18 |
| OvenWerks | dch kind of does that one automatically :P | 22:18 |
| zequence | I think I'll try doing release based branches for 13.10. Then we'll see how that works out | 22:20 |
| OvenWerks | ok | 22:20 |
| zequence | for 14.04 we keep working off the trunks as usual | 22:21 |
| OvenWerks | right. That is making sense. | 22:21 |
| zequence | I'm taking over maintenance for linux-lowlatency for the devel release now | 22:25 |
| zequence | going to work on getting upload rights early during 14.04 cycle | 22:25 |
| zequence | we should both get that | 22:26 |
| zequence | would make things a lot simpler for us | 22:26 |
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