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| Noskcaj | Is there anyone who can update the patch on bug 733563 ? I'll do the packaging and debian-ing if needed | 07:07 |
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| ubottu | bug 733563 in xfce4-xkb-plugin (Ubuntu) "Can't change font for keyboard layout indicator" [Wishlist,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/733563 | 07:07 |
| Noskcaj | !botsnack | 07:08 |
| ubottu | Yum! Err, I mean, APT! | 07:08 |
| ochosi | hey everyone, bluesabre and i have pushed a fix for bug 1204486 to our PPA, instructions on how to test are in the comment #15 of this bug. everyone running saucy please test! thanks in advance | 08:25 |
| ubottu | bug 1204486 in LightDM GTK+ Greeter "Unable to select alternate languages at login screen" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1204486 | 08:25 |
| ochosi | (just mentioning this ahead of the meeting as i'm not sure i'll be able to make it) | 08:26 |
| knome | ugh, looks like i'm not able to make the meeting either... | 10:27 |
| ochosi | knome: can you test the greeter though? | 10:39 |
| ochosi | even a test in raring is useful to some extent | 10:40 |
| knome | yeah, i can do that | 10:40 |
| knome | either before or after the meeting | 10:40 |
| knome | but today, yup | 10:41 |
| knome | do you consider vbox testing as good as real hardware? | 10:41 |
| astraljava | I did not give that information to you as to be treated like a guinea pig. | 10:47 |
| knome | huh? | 10:48 |
| astraljava | But yeah, sure. I'll report test installations. :) | 10:48 |
| brainwash | ochosi: what's the deal with the gtk2 greeter? can I use it on my saucy installation? | 10:48 |
| knome | upgrading my saucy vbox, then adding the ppa | 10:48 |
| astraljava | Yeah ok, just thought it was good enough for a funny coincidence. | 10:49 |
| knome | heh, right | 10:50 |
| * knome is lost with too many queries and stuff to be done | 10:50 | |
| * astraljava wishes he could help... but not really. | 10:51 | |
| knome | i know | 10:51 |
| knome | i also know how you can help | 10:51 |
| knome | STOP PM'ing me! | 10:51 |
| * astraljava sneaks away silently | 10:51 | |
| knome | j/k | 10:51 |
| ochosi | knome: if you can reproduce the bug in a VM, i guess testing the fix there is ok too | 10:51 |
| knome | yup | 10:52 |
| ochosi | brainwash: yeah, you can use that too if you want | 10:53 |
| brainwash | ochosi: ok :) | 10:54 |
| jjfrv8 | ochosi, I did a quick test of bug fix on hardware. looks good. "Unlock" button replaced with "Log In". Session and Language icons on panel work. | 12:12 |
| jjfrv8 | log out is still slow though | 12:15 |
| knome | i'd assume that's another issue (unfortunately) | 12:15 |
| knome | wondering if that's related to our slow login bugs :P | 12:16 |
| jjfrv8 | knome, is there still going to be a meeting? I got called into work. I could make it, but under an alias. | 12:18 |
| knome | i don't know. i'm not able to make the meeting myself. | 12:36 |
| elfy | ochosi: that lightdm fix works here - I now though have a longer logout time it seems, not got time to check whether that's a real longer or not though at the moment | 13:09 |
| ochosi | elfy, jjfrv8: the logout time is entirely unrelated | 13:10 |
| ochosi | that also seems to affect all other *buntus | 13:10 |
| knome | locking takes me to xscreensaver | 13:10 |
| ochosi | yeah, light-locker was never uploaded | 13:10 |
| knome | ok | 13:10 |
| ochosi | it's possible to test it via a PPA | 13:10 |
| elfy | ochosi: ok - well for the moment - I am happy to be able to logout :) | 13:10 |
| ochosi | so hopefully we can have it in T | 13:10 |
| knome | and yes, the greeter still says "log in" for the locked user as well | 13:10 |
| knome | everything seems to be working with the patch | 13:11 |
| knome | except locking | 13:11 |
| ochosi | well the locking doesn't work via lightdm with xscreensaver anyway | 13:11 |
| * knome breathes again | 13:11 | |
| ochosi | so it shouldn't say unlock | 13:11 |
| ochosi | so good to hear that the patch works | 13:12 |
| elfy | \o/ | 13:13 |
| ochosi | we should get it uploaded asap then | 13:13 |
| knome | correct | 13:16 |
| elfy | back later - hope meeting goes ok | 13:27 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: if you get a chance to play with cairo-drawing the background, we can fix two bugs in one upload | 14:02 |
| skellat | knome: I have to head to the local Amish enclave so I won't be at the meeting today. | 14:33 |
| bluesabre | that's an original excuse ;) | 14:34 |
| ochosi | indeed | 14:42 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: i agree, would be good to take a look at the background painting, not sure i can do it today though, kinda busy... | 14:43 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: that's cool | 14:50 |
| bluesabre | I might get a chance to look at it myself tonight | 14:50 |
| bluesabre | and since you're not using nouveau, you can't really test if it fixes the bug | 14:50 |
| ochosi | well i can theoreticall switch to nouveau again | 14:51 |
| ochosi | it just breaks suspending | 14:51 |
| ochosi | which i like to use | 14:51 |
| bluesabre | :D | 14:54 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: going to be around for the meeting? | 14:55 |
| ochosi | it's going to start in 5min or in 1hr5min? | 14:55 |
| bluesabre | I think 3 minutes | 14:57 |
| bluesabre | should I kick it off, or are one of the more chair-ly people here? | 15:02 |
| ochosi | i'd say go ahead | 15:02 |
| ochosi | i'll be aroundish for at least the first half | 15:02 |
| bluesabre | #startmeeting Xubuntu community meeting | 15:02 |
| meetingology | Meeting started Tue Sep 17 15:02:51 2013 UTC. The chair is bluesabre. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology. | 15:02 |
| meetingology | Available commands: #accept #accepted #action #agree #agreed #chair #commands #endmeeting #endvote #halp #help #idea #info #link #lurk #meetingname #meetingtopic #nick #progress #rejected #replay #restrictlogs #save #startmeeting #subtopic #topic #unchair #undo #unlurk #vote #voters #votesrequired | 15:02 |
| bluesabre | #chair ochosi | 15:02 |
| meetingology | Current chairs: bluesabre ochosi | 15:02 |
| GridCube | :) | 15:03 |
| bluesabre | who's here? | 15:03 |
| GridCube | o/ | 15:03 |
| jjfrv8-work | o/ | 15:03 |
| ochosi | o/ | 15:04 |
| bluesabre | hey folks! | 15:04 |
| bluesabre | #topic Items carried on | 15:04 |
| bluesabre | #subtopic Open action items from previous meeting | 15:05 |
| bluesabre | #action knome to prepare the website for the desktop of the week | 15:05 |
| meetingology | ACTION: knome to prepare the website for the desktop of the week | 15:05 |
| bluesabre | #action knome to see designing a white-bg t-shirt | 15:05 |
| meetingology | ACTION: knome to see designing a white-bg t-shirt | 15:06 |
| bluesabre | #action mr_pouit uploads the new artwork package later | 15:06 |
| meetingology | ACTION: mr_pouit uploads the new artwork package later | 15:06 |
| bluesabre | #action micahg to review ochosi's gmb patch | 15:06 |
| meetingology | ACTION: micahg to review ochosi's gmb patch | 15:06 |
| bluesabre | #action skellat to prepare blog article discussing updating & upgrading for users and why it is okay to do so | 15:06 |
| meetingology | ACTION: skellat to prepare blog article discussing updating & upgrading for users and why it is okay to do so | 15:06 |
| bluesabre | I'm not very good at this :D | 15:07 |
| GridCube | P: you are doing well | 15:08 |
| bluesabre | basically copy-pasting knome's script from last time | 15:08 |
| ochosi | hehe, looks fine to me | 15:09 |
| bluesabre | #subtopic Strategy Document reviewing | 15:09 |
| bluesabre | any updates here? | 15:10 |
| * ochosi wasn't involved | 15:11 | |
| jjfrv8-work | I think the vote has been postponed twice and it doesn't look like we have a quorum today. | 15:11 |
| bluesabre | looks like it was knome, pleia2, micahg, and possibly jjfrv8-work involved | 15:11 |
| bluesabre | looks like we'll postpone this for next meeting then | 15:12 |
| ochosi | yup | 15:12 |
| bluesabre | #subtopic Ideas for using the project money | 15:12 |
| bluesabre | another item where we need knome/pleia2 most likely | 15:13 |
| bluesabre | but... any thoughts, ideas, etc? | 15:13 |
| GridCube | no, i think we got the tshirts pretty much | 15:13 |
| bluesabre | oh, any updates on that? | 15:14 |
| * bluesabre reads last meeting backlog now | 15:14 | |
| bluesabre | knome had an action item here | 15:15 |
| bluesabre | so, if nothing else, we'll move on | 15:16 |
| bluesabre | #topic Team updates | 15:17 |
| bluesabre | ochosi? | 15:17 |
| ochosi | ok, for artwork... | 15:17 |
| ochosi | our themes have seen new releases today | 15:17 |
| ochosi | exciting news, we re-gained granite support (for elementary-os apps), gtk3.9 support and support for client-side decorations | 15:18 |
| ochosi | so in case people enable the gnome3.10 ppa our themes will not break | 15:18 |
| ochosi | i've sent an email to mr_pouit already requesting the upload before UIF | 15:18 |
| bluesabre | cool, want to add some #infos, and give mrpouit an action item? | 15:19 |
| ochosi | oh | 15:22 |
| ochosi | sure | 15:22 |
| bluesabre | #nick mr_pouit | 15:22 |
| ochosi | sorry | 15:22 |
| bluesabre | :D | 15:22 |
| ochosi | (i'm half-working here) | 15:22 |
| ochosi | #info our themes have seen new releases today | 15:22 |
| bluesabre | me too, its cool | 15:22 |
| ochosi | #info exciting news, we re-gained granite support (for elementary-os apps), gtk3.9 support and support for client-side decorations | 15:22 |
| ochosi | #action mr_pouit was asked via email to upload the updated shimmer-themes package to Saucy before UIF | 15:23 |
| meetingology | ACTION: mr_pouit was asked via email to upload the updated shimmer-themes package to Saucy before UIF | 15:23 |
| bluesabre | sweet | 15:23 |
| bluesabre | for applications... | 15:23 |
| bluesabre | #info the latest gmusicbrowser is now in saucy | 15:23 |
| bluesabre | #info ochosi and I have been working on a lightdm-gtk-greeter fix for lock/login issues, to be uploaded tonight | 15:24 |
| bluesabre | #link https://bugs.launchpad.net/lightdm-gtk-greeter/+bug/1204486 | 15:25 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1204486 in LightDM GTK+ Greeter "Unable to select alternate languages at login screen" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 15:25 |
| ochosi | #info for those wanting to test the lightdm-gtk-greeter fix, read comment #15 on the bugreport | 15:25 |
| bluesabre | thanks | 15:26 |
| bluesabre | GridCube, how's the DA xubuntu-showcase going? | 15:26 |
| bluesabre | haven't looked at it for a while :) | 15:27 |
| GridCube | pretty much stalled | 15:27 |
| bluesabre | :( | 15:27 |
| GridCube | we cant reach the objectives | 15:28 |
| GridCube | if we dont start advertising, and we cant start advertising because no one has fullfiled the rules | 15:28 |
| GridCube | mostly licencies problems | 15:28 |
| bluesabre | ah | 15:28 |
| bluesabre | that's no fun | 15:28 |
| GridCube | we can get users to change their licences, but we hardly cant get a licence for their desktop backgrounds | 15:29 |
| GridCube | wich in many cases is central to the destop setting | 15:29 |
| bluesabre | right | 15:29 |
| GridCube | so yeah | 15:29 |
| GridCube | i got a few users to get their permissions and im waiting for knome to have a moment to try and upload the first soon | 15:29 |
| GridCube | i hope | 15:30 |
| GridCube | lets see if after that things move at a better pace | 15:30 |
| GridCube | so | 15:30 |
| GridCube | #info the xubuntu showcase is doing work but it moves slowly | 15:31 |
| GridCube | #action knome and GridCube to join and prepare the first few showcases | 15:31 |
| meetingology | ACTION: knome and GridCube to join and prepare the first few showcases | 15:31 |
| bluesabre | cool, hoping to see some momentum on that :) | 15:31 |
| GridCube | :) | 15:31 |
| bluesabre | does anybody else have updates? | 15:31 |
| bluesabre | #topic Announcements | 15:32 |
| bluesabre | I saw the announcement from last week, congrats jjfrv8-work on the extra responsibilities :) | 15:33 |
| micahg-work | sorry I'm late | 15:33 |
| bluesabre | hey micahg-work! | 15:33 |
| jjfrv8-work | Thanks. | 15:34 |
| bluesabre | it's okay, we've got myself, ochosi, GridCube, and jjfrv8-work | 15:34 |
| bluesabre | We're on announcements, but if you've got any updates, :) | 15:34 |
| micahg-work | nope, ochosi's gmb patch still needs uploading (which I should get to tonight) | 15:35 |
| bluesabre | oh, which patch is this? | 15:35 |
| micahg-work | still need to discuss indicators for saucy | 15:35 |
| micahg-work | albuminfo plugin IIRC | 15:35 |
| bluesabre | oh cool | 15:35 |
| micahg-work | unfortunately, that's about all I'll get to before the weekend unless there's something critical | 15:37 |
| bluesabre | what's the status on the indicators for saucy? are we considering using the gtk3 wrapper or discussing broken indicators? | 15:37 |
| * bluesabre is behind on updates | 15:37 | |
| micahg-work | well, I'm not 100% up to date on what's going on | 15:38 |
| bluesabre | ochosi: are you more up-to-date? | 15:38 |
| ochosi | well the gtk3 indicators seem stable so far | 15:39 |
| micahg-work | if we can get the existing indicators working without too much work or risk, I'd rather do that for saucy and try to land the gtk3 indicator stuff when T opens | 15:39 |
| ochosi | but there hasn't been a release on libxfce4ui or the panel | 15:39 |
| micahg-work | if we have no choice, we can either drop indicators for saucy or try to get a freeze exception to push the gtk3 stuff | 15:40 |
| ochosi | imo it doesn't make a huge difference though | 15:40 |
| ochosi | we also ship random snapshots of abiword :) | 15:40 |
| bluesabre | :) | 15:40 |
| bluesabre | micahg-work, have you seen this? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-sound/+bug/1208204 | 15:40 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1208204 in indicator-sound (Ubuntu) "indicator-sound no longer functions with xfce4-indicator-plugin" [High,Triaged] | 15:40 |
| micahg-work | abiword's not a core DE component ;) | 15:40 |
| micahg-work | bluesabre, yeah, that's what we're discussing I think | 15:41 |
| micahg-work | can someone please subscribe me | 15:41 |
| bluesabre | ok, cool | 15:41 |
| bluesabre | will do now | 15:41 |
| micahg-work | thanks | 15:41 |
| micahg-work | ali1234 did a lot of digging for this | 15:41 |
| micahg-work | or at least this bug is half the puzzle | 15:41 |
| bluesabre | yeah | 15:42 |
| ochosi | my personal take is that fixing the soundindicator won't go down without a lot of work | 15:42 |
| ochosi | at least that's what ali1234's comments on it suggested | 15:43 |
| micahg-work | right, I don't think porting the indicator is worthwhile | 15:43 |
| ochosi | so i think pushing new versions for gtk3 support or dropping indicators are the remaining options | 15:43 |
| micahg-work | so, either there's some way to use the gtk2 dbus service | 15:43 |
| micahg-work | or one of those 2 options | 15:43 |
| ochosi | gotta run folks | 15:44 |
| ochosi | sorry | 15:44 |
| bluesabre | its cool | 15:44 |
| bluesabre | any there any other announcements? | 15:44 |
| bluesabre | alrighty | 15:45 |
| bluesabre | #topic New and emerging items | 15:45 |
| bluesabre | #subtopic Schedule next meeting | 15:45 |
| bluesabre | I think we should postpone this until there are more of us around | 15:45 |
| micahg-work | well, we have beta 2 next week | 15:46 |
| bluesabre | ah | 15:46 |
| bluesabre | thursday? | 15:46 |
| micahg-work | that's why we had the meeting in the first place | 15:46 |
| micahg-work | yeah, I think the freeze is Monday for beta 2 now | 15:46 |
| micahg-work | do we still need docs uploaded? | 15:46 |
| bluesabre | I'm not sure | 15:47 |
| micahg-work | jjfrv8-work, are the latest docs in saucy? | 15:49 |
| jjfrv8-work | They're about 80% complete. I still have some review to do. | 15:49 |
| micahg-work | doc string freeze is thursday | 15:50 |
| jjfrv8-work | oops. Looks like I won't make it. | 15:50 |
| micahg-work | thursday 21:00 UTC, so I'd suggest pushing as far as we can, then finding someone to upload (I won't be around) | 15:50 |
| micahg-work | jjfrv8-work, maybe talk to the release team and the translators to see if we can get more time then | 15:51 |
| jjfrv8-work | Ok | 15:51 |
| micahg-work | we only have 4 weeks until release | 15:51 |
| * micahg-work won't get to some of his pet projects for the cycle either it seems | 15:52 | |
| bluesabre | Should we schedule a meeting for thursday to try to get a last-minute idea of where we are for beta2? | 15:52 |
| micahg-work | I won't be around, but feel free, and leave me notes if something needs to be done before Monday (freeze) | 15:52 |
| jjfrv8-work | I can't make Thursday | 15:52 |
| bluesabre | you can send updates to the -devel ml before the meeting, we'll pick them up for the meeting | 15:54 |
| * micahg-work will brb | 15:54 | |
| bluesabre | k | 15:54 |
| bluesabre | #info next meeting, tentatively scheduled for Thursday, September 19, 1500 UTC | 15:56 |
| bluesabre | #action knome to change date/time of next meeting as needed | 15:56 |
| meetingology | ACTION: knome to change date/time of next meeting as needed | 15:56 |
| bluesabre | :) | 15:56 |
| bluesabre | we'll go ahead and wrap up, I gotta run | 15:57 |
| bluesabre | #endmeeting | 15:57 |
| meetingology | Meeting ended Tue Sep 17 15:57:39 2013 UTC. | 15:57 |
| meetingology | Minutes (wiki): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2013/xubuntu-devel.2013-09-17-15.02.moin.txt | 15:57 |
| meetingology | Minutes (html): http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/xubuntu-devel/2013/xubuntu-devel.2013-09-17-15.02.html | 15:57 |
| bluesabre | thanks everyone | 15:57 |
| bluesabre | bbiab | 15:58 |
| bluesabre | micahg-work, we'll have a new upload ready for lightdm-gtk-greeter tonight, I'll get it ready and subscribe you when its good | 16:01 |
| * micahg-work is back | 16:04 | |
| micahg-work | bluesabre, ok, if it's quick, I can upload tonight | 16:04 |
| bluesabre | yeah, should just be a few lines diff | 16:22 |
| pleia2 | bluesabre: thanks for running the meeting :) | 16:33 |
| bluesabre | pleia2: yeah, knome left me little choice ;) | 16:40 |
| knome | hah | 16:48 |
| knome | hai. | 16:48 |
| elfy | thanks for the meeting bluesabre | 16:51 |
| knome | probably don't want a meeting for thursday (freezes and stuff) and i can't attend, but i'm fine if people are around and want to go through some things | 16:51 |
| knome | and yeah, thanks for chairing - you did well | 16:51 |
| knome | bluesabre, ^ | 16:51 |
| knome | i met jussi (former IRCC member, kubuntu council member) today and got some ideas how to organize the t-shirt stuff | 16:52 |
| knome | probably not ideal for us, but that's one option | 16:53 |
| * elfy gets confused with jussi's - I sort of know one | 16:53 | |
| knome | jussi schultink, "jussi" or "jussi01" in irc | 16:53 |
| elfy | that one :p | 16:53 |
| knome | yep | 16:53 |
| knome | so yeah, i met him IRL today | 16:53 |
| knome | that's why i couldn't make the meeting... :P | 16:54 |
| knome | and astraljava too | 16:54 |
| elfy | nice | 16:54 |
| elfy | one day I'll meet someone - I have the upper hand - I know what some of you lot look like :) | 16:55 |
| knome | hehe | 17:00 |
| knome | well, just come to finland... | 17:00 |
| elfy | I know :) | 17:00 |
| bluesabre | hey knome, elfy | 17:02 |
| knome | hai bluesabre | 17:02 |
| bluesabre | how's it going? | 17:03 |
| knome | not bad | 17:03 |
| skellat | jjfrv8: There was an e-mail by Daniel Holbach about the sponsors pool being overflowing. Robbie Basak just got it down to 52 pending requests. LP Bug #1207493 remains stuck so we'll need to talk about finding an uploader for Thursday. | 17:56 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1207493 in xubuntu-docs (Ubuntu) "[SRU] Documentation does not match shipped system version (11.10 shipped with 12.04)" [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1207493 | 17:56 |
| skellat | SEE ALSO: http://reqorts.qa.ubuntu.com/reports/sponsoring/ | 17:57 |
| Unit193 | GridCube: I have a shot using knome's wallpaper, if you need something with a clear and known license. | 18:16 |
| GridCube | Unit193, that would help | 18:17 |
| Unit193 | It's really not interesting, but alrighty. I uploaded it somewhere... | 18:18 |
| Unit193 | GridCube: OK, so you want a window or two open, any preference? And should I kill my conky config, or do some major blur of it all, or just remove the calendar and blur the IP? :P | 18:26 |
| GridCube | probaly just the ip | 18:26 |
| GridCube | the idea is to show a pretty desktop setting with all the fancy stuffs peoples adds to it, not just default xubuntu desktop with adifferent wallaper | 18:27 |
| GridCube | that is boring | 18:27 |
| Unit193 | Sure, mine isn't too different though, mainly conky which has my calendar in it. :P | 18:28 |
| GridCube | P: thats different | 18:29 |
| elfy | licence for the wallpaper is always going to be a stumbling block I think | 18:31 |
| elfy | I certainly never bother looking | 18:31 |
| GridCube | no, no one ever does | 18:33 |
| GridCube | though if its something we *have* to have... | 18:34 |
| elfy | I understand that GridCube | 18:37 |
| elfy | we're likely to be having exactly the same conversations every couple of months :) | 18:37 |
| GridCube | yes | 18:37 |
| Unit193 | elfy: Yes, I quite agree. | 18:38 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: Oh, how about that keyboard shortcuts overlay? | 18:43 |
| bluesabre | ha | 18:44 |
| bluesabre | haha | 18:44 |
| bluesabre | yeah, maybe for early in the T cycle | 18:45 |
| bluesabre | but that does remind me | 18:45 |
| bluesabre | micahg, micahg-work: https://code.launchpad.net/~smd-seandavis/xubuntu-default-settings/keyboard-shortcuts | 18:46 |
| bluesabre | not sure if its too late for this now | 18:46 |
| bluesabre | knome too (though he already approved) ^ | 18:47 |
| Unit193 | bluesabre: OK, so it's not even ready for testing? Alrighty. | 18:48 |
| skellat | bluesabre: Did you file an FFe bug yet? Need Docs signoff and a few others before trying to get it in. | 18:49 |
| bluesabre | skellat: figured as much, I had the merge request in before FF, but it got missed | 18:49 |
| skellat | Where is the merge? | 18:50 |
| bluesabre | I'll work on the FFe on that if everyone else agrees to it, or we can wait until later to merge | 18:50 |
| Unit193 | Technically doesn't it fix a bug? ;) | 18:50 |
| skellat | Ah, but which one? | 18:50 |
| bluesabre | merge: https://code.launchpad.net/~smd-seandavis/xubuntu-default-settings/keyboard-shortcuts/+merge/182352 | 18:50 |
| bluesabre | bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-default-settings/+bug/1165266 | 18:50 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1165266 in xubuntu-default-settings (Ubuntu) "missing keyboard shortcuts" [Medium,Confirmed] | 18:51 |
| bluesabre | though it doesn't hit all of the shortcuts requested in that bug | 18:51 |
| skellat | Hmm | 18:52 |
| bluesabre | gotta go, bbl | 18:52 |
| Unit193 | GridCube: https://www.dropbox.com/s/msowfigemo517zp/shot.png?m good? | 18:55 |
| GridCube | Unit193, :) | 19:06 |
| Unit193 | License however you want, and wallpaper is http://temp.knome.fi/.expwall/ | 19:09 |
| knome | not permanent url, please don't link there. | 19:09 |
| knome | but yep, feel free to use that | 19:09 |
| Unit193 | Sure, just saying where I got it and whatever license that is. | 19:10 |
| Unit193 | knome: I haven't changed it out of rage, so good job1 | 19:10 |
| Unit193 | ! | 19:10 |
| knome | lol | 19:10 |
| knome | ta | 19:10 |
| GridCube | Unit193, http://gridcube.deviantart.com/art/Unit193-s-Desktop-at-17th-of-September-of-2013-400894406?ga_submit_new=10%253A1379446208 | 19:30 |
| Unit193 | Boom. | 19:31 |
| Unit193 | Hopefully that'll help and be something easy to approve. | 19:36 |
| GridCube | http://fav.me/d6mol0h | 19:39 |
| Unit193 | See? That's different. ;) | 19:40 |
| GridCube | P: | 19:41 |
| GridCube | laters | 19:41 |
| andrzejr | ali1234, are scroll events working for you in gtk3 indicators? | 21:23 |
| ali1234 | no | 21:24 |
| andrzejr | I'm seeing some weird issues | 21:24 |
| ali1234 | the problem in indicator-sound is supposed to be fixed now | 21:24 |
| ali1234 | but it still doesn't work | 21:24 |
| ochosi | hey you two | 21:24 |
| andrzejr | I've fixed that in git master, so now I have indicator-sound working on 13.04 | 21:24 |
| ochosi | oh | 21:24 |
| ochosi | interesting | 21:24 |
| ochosi | maybe i should pull and install again | 21:25 |
| andrzejr | but on 13.10 I get some weird notification/event loop | 21:25 |
| andrzejr | xfce4-notifyd flickers continuously and finally crashes | 21:25 |
| ochosi | andrzejr: works for me | 21:26 |
| ochosi | (in 13.10) | 21:26 |
| andrzejr | tested on virtualbox - maybe related | 21:26 |
| ochosi | so that's fixed it seems | 21:26 |
| knome | ochosi, robert's online if you want to chat with him | 21:27 |
| ochosi | works as expected, and as it used to with the gtk2 indicator | 21:27 |
| ochosi | knome: where? | 21:27 |
| knome | #ubuntu-release at least | 21:27 |
| knome | and PM, i suppose :P | 21:28 |
| ochosi | yeah, found him in -desktop | 21:28 |
| ochosi | andrzejr: congrats btw, nice to see the scrolling work again! | 21:29 |
| knome | good good | 21:29 |
| ochosi | ok, we'll see whether i'll get a reply | 21:31 |
| ochosi | never caught him on irc so afr | 21:31 |
| ochosi | far | 21:31 |
| ochosi | so that'd be a first | 21:31 |
| knome | hehe | 21:31 |
| knome | yeah | 21:31 |
| knome | i already thanked him for chiming in | 21:32 |
| knome | but i thought you might have further questions or so | 21:32 |
| ochosi | chiming in? | 21:32 |
| ochosi | where? | 21:32 |
| knome | in the bug comments. | 21:33 |
| knome | little community/link building doesn't hurt | 21:33 |
| ali1234 | andrzejr: works ok for me too | 21:33 |
| ali1234 | andrzejr: have you seen this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/glipper/+bug/1203888/ | 21:34 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1203888 in libappindicator (Ubuntu) "appindicator doesn't work in Saucy" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 21:34 |
| ali1234 | it's nothing to do with xfce, but maybe you have some clue for me what is causing it? | 21:34 |
| ochosi | knome: ok, that was a first now. | 21:38 |
| knome | :) | 21:39 |
| ochosi | knome: got some pointers wrt the restart bug, he'll try to look at the others and gave me some logind-scient names | 21:39 |
| knome | cool | 21:39 |
| ali1234 | ochosi: where is this wiki page for gtk3 indicators? | 21:40 |
| jjfrv8 | skellat, I didn't know the SRU docs had another shot at being uploaded until the final point release next year. | 21:55 |
| knome | jjfrv8, we can get them to backports, but the main target is the SRU | 21:56 |
| jjfrv8 | So do I need to be doing anything? | 21:57 |
| andrzejr | ali1234, I guess you are not seeing that event loop issue, are you. Do you have a virtualbox vm to try? | 21:57 |
| knome | i don't think that's a high priority issue | 21:57 |
| ali1234 | andrzejr: yes i do, but it is completely default at the moment | 21:57 |
| jjfrv8 | knome, I also didn't realize that b2 was my deadline for the saucy docs. | 21:58 |
| knome | per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseSchedule, doc freeze is september 19 | 21:58 |
| jjfrv8 | I guess I'm going to get fired already :P | 21:59 |
| knome | nah | 21:59 |
| knome | we can get exceptions, but we should of course try to move as quickly as possible | 21:59 |
| knome | another thing we need to resolve is who is going to upload that new package | 21:59 |
| jjfrv8 | I think I might be able to finish up before then. | 21:59 |
| knome | good to hear that, but if you don't, don't lose your sleep | 22:00 |
| ali1234 | andrzejr: i want to update this wiki page as i'm installing everything in the VM, but i don't know the address of it, when ochosi comes back and tells me where it is then i'll do both things at once | 22:00 |
| jjfrv8 | would the uploading normally be my responsibility. I realize I don't have the rights yet. | 22:00 |
| knome | jjfrv8, no, not really | 22:01 |
| knome | jjfrv8, note that we are talking about a different from uploading the branch in launchpad | 22:01 |
| knome | jjfrv8, even i don't have upload rights | 22:02 |
| jjfrv8 | well I'll try to get you the last batch at least in time for you to do the merges. | 22:03 |
| knome | sure, that's a quick task | 22:03 |
| knome | just tell me if there's something i can help with | 22:04 |
| jjfrv8 | thanks. will do. | 22:05 |
| knome | also re: your comment on the last MP, if we change things after docfreeze/other freezes, those freeze exceptions imply doc changes, so you don't have to worry about guessing things | 22:05 |
| knome | we can change the docs then | 22:05 |
| ochosi | ali1234: sry for the daily, coming up shortly | 22:05 |
| ochosi | i have really sucky connectivity here atm :( | 22:05 |
| ochosi | always disconnects me again | 22:05 |
| knome | of course, in such case, developers should be in touch with you to let you know a doc update might be needed | 22:05 |
| jjfrv8 | ah, ok. | 22:07 |
| ochosi | ali1234: right now, a very rough page has been started here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/Roadmap/Specifications/Saucy/Gtk3Indicators | 22:08 |
| ali1234 | ochosi: thanks. i'll fill it in with all information as i go | 22:08 |
| knome | jjfrv8, ^ you might want to follow that spec as well | 22:09 |
| knome | ochosi, make sure you notify jjfrv8 if things start to roll towards oops-let's-upload-this-for-saucy-anyway, aka paperwork-for-ochosi | 22:09 |
| knome | (or -micahg) | 22:09 |
| jjfrv8 | bbl | 22:16 |
| ochosi | ali1234: thank you! | 22:17 |
| ochosi | bluesabre: i would also try to sell off the missing kb-shortcuts as bugfix | 22:22 |
| ochosi | and it's a trivial patch in the end | 22:22 |
| ochosi | not problematic at all | 22:23 |
| andrzejr | ali1234, I've been looking into that "child-added" issue. That's a signal of DbusmenuMenuitem | 22:28 |
| ali1234 | andrzejr: in virtualbox it doesn't work properly for me... | 23:07 |
| ali1234 | it says it is loading the sound indicator but it doesn't show on the panel | 23:08 |
| ali1234 | weird | 23:11 |
| ali1234 | perhaps due to different git versions on the other two needed bits? | 23:12 |
| knome | ok, i'm off for today | 23:12 |
| knome | see you all later | 23:12 |
| knome | nighty | 23:12 |
| ali1234 | looks like i need to reboot then | 23:20 |
| ali1234 | andrzejr: right, rebooted... now i get the weird behaviour outside virtualbox too | 23:28 |
| ali1234 | andrzejr: it looks like something changed in xfce4-panel or libxfce4ui that has broken it | 23:28 |
| ochosi | ali1234: what weird behavior exactly? | 23:29 |
| ali1234 | no sound indicator shows up at all | 23:29 |
| ali1234 | oh hang on | 23:30 |
| ali1234 | i restarted the panel and now it's there | 23:30 |
| ali1234 | could be a race condition? | 23:30 |
| ali1234 | i dunno what is wrong inside virtualbox | 23:30 |
| ali1234 | i updated the wiki page with the missing libs btw | 23:31 |
| ochosi | for me sometimes the icon is missing on startup | 23:31 |
| ochosi | but after restarting the panel, the icon gets shown | 23:31 |
| ochosi | so it's not really the indicator missing for me | 23:32 |
| ali1234 | yes, same | 23:32 |
| ali1234 | inside virtualbox though it never shows | 23:32 |
| ochosi | strange | 23:32 |
| ali1234 | a load of others are missing too | 23:32 |
| ochosi | oh | 23:32 |
| ochosi | i only use sound, network and power | 23:33 |
| ochosi | the other two show | 23:33 |
| ochosi | and messages also always shows | 23:33 |
| ochosi | g2g to bed, i'll check in tomorrow | 23:33 |
| ali1234 | and cpufreq crashes with null pointer (maybe because it can't access the CPU properly in virtualbox though - i uninstalled it so it wouldn't cause problems anyway) | 23:33 |
| ali1234 | hmm maybe it is because something i did while messing around with that gtk2 indicator bug | 23:36 |
| ali1234 | yes. duh | 23:37 |
| ali1234 | ok it works in virtualbox | 23:38 |
| skellat | knome jjfrv8 -- A merge proposal for you to sign off on: https://code.launchpad.net/~skellat/xubuntu-docs/xubuntu-docs/+merge/186181 | 23:45 |
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