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kubotu::qt-bugs:: [1180067] No icons on buttons @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1180067 (by GamePad64)05:42
soeegood morning05:55
skreech_morning05:56
jussio707:12
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cortexA9all ok with kubuntu daily.10:58
cortexA9of today.10:58
yofel\o/11:04
RiddellcortexA9: great, thanks for testing11:05
cortexA9Riddell: no problem11:06
RiddellcortexA9: could you test if the wifi setup is still broken on installer only mode?11:08
cortexA9no wifi is good for me.11:09
cortexA9Riddell: just tested..11:09
RiddellcortexA9: but did you install in installer only mode or from a full live system?11:09
cortexA9oh Riddell sorry live system..11:10
cortexA9Riddell: doesn't work on installer ?11:10
cortexA9i didn't tried..11:11
RiddellcortexA9: there's a bug that only appears when in installer only mode and wifi needs setup, it crashes, if you're able to test that sometime it would be good11:21
BluesKaj'Morning folks11:24
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BluesKajhttp://www.pcworld.com/article/2048893/ibm-hopes-to-power-cloud-analytics-with-1-billion-linux-investment.html12:29
apacheloggeragain :O12:32
apacheloggerhm, I still think arm servers are coolest ^^12:33
Riddellthey still care about Power?12:35
apacheloggerRiddell: power is still used for the super comput0rs12:42
apacheloggeralso power8 is fairly new12:42
jussibtw, did you all note the recently opensourced stuff my employer put out the other week? 12:42
apacheloggerIIRC made for super insane mad multithreading12:43
apacheloggerjussi: the answer is no12:43
jussihttps://github.com/nomovok-opensource/12:43
apacheloggerit's got webkit there12:43
apacheloggerreminds me of Qt and the we put a browser in your browser plan xD12:44
jussiheh12:44
jussino, the webkit bit is "we hated how ebkit did things crappily, so we ripped the backend out and made it fast"12:45
Riddellapachelogger: Qt just announced a move away from webkit12:45
apacheloggerjussi: hm, wrath sounds a lot like QSG12:45
jussiRiddell: webkit to webkit fork... same thing...12:45
Riddella fork of a fork, poor old khtml12:45
jussiapachelogger: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality_Street_Gang ??? :P12:45
apacheloggerjussi: qt scene graph12:46
apacheloggerthe thing used to draw stuff in qt512:46
apacheloggerusing GL12:46
jussiapachelogger: no... no....12:46
apachelogger^^12:46
apacheloggerplease englighten me12:46
apacheloggerRiddell: as I understand it the plan is to put chrome into qt12:46
jussiQSG is much, much much, behind what wrath is doing. It does a very small bit of it12:47
yofelanyone know where ~/.xsession-errors went now that we have upstart user sessions?13:05
Riddellapachelogger: oh really? google dropping that gtk stuff?13:11
Riddellyofel: hmm I still have a ~/.xsession-errors but only a couple of messages in it13:12
yofelsame here, I'm looking for the rest ^^13:12
apacheloggerRiddell: has nothing to do with google :P13:37
apacheloggerbut I think what Qt is trying to get at is integration features of chrome such as proxy integration and multimedia and wallets and whatnot13:37
Riddellapachelogger: Qt are using chrome's branch rather than webkit's branch no?13:40
Riddellin future13:40
debfxyofel: ~/.cache/upstart/startkde.log or whatever the upstart job is called13:40
yofelthanks!13:40
yofeloh cool, that's even rotated \o/13:41
apacheloggerRiddell: yes, which allows them to pick stuff from chome itself13:41
apacheloggerbut yaeh13:41
apacheloggerI dunno enough about this13:41
apacheloggeralso I do not care13:41
apacheloggerbrowser suck anyway13:41
apacheloggerw3m ftw!13:41
shadeslayerapachelogger: enoflash :P13:42
shadeslayeror html513:42
apachelogger^features13:42
apacheloggerlike, really, features13:42
shadeslayeror javascript? :D13:42
apacheloggeryes, feature13:42
shadeslayer^_^13:42
apacheloggerso google cannot track me13:43
apacheloggeractually I think w3m supports js tho13:43
apacheloggerto some degree anyway13:43
RiddellHTML 2 was the best, they should have stopped there13:43
Riddellw3m supports some CSS, I'd be impressed if it did js13:44
shadeslayerwho needs browsers anyway13:44
apacheloggerRiddell: hm, I do recall one of them fancy cli browsers to support js tho13:46
apacheloggerah13:47
apacheloggerit was elinks13:47
apacheloggerpartial js and ecm313:47
apacheloggeremca313:47
Riddellcrazy13:48
apacheloggeralso wikipedia says links itself had js support at some point, was removed in 2012 again13:48
Riddelljussi, Tm_T: you guys going to pre-order this and tell us what it's like? http://jolla.com/14:08
Riddellonly available in Finland14:08
Tm_TRiddell: I haven't bought a phone for ~10 years now and most likely won't this time either (:14:20
RiddellTm_T: isn't having a shiny phone a requirement for living in Finland?14:21
Tm_TRiddell: I don't know, my current phone is from work14:21
Riddellbug 122479714:43
ubottubug 1224797 in language-pack-kde-en (Ubuntu) "unsatisfiable dependency on calligra-l10n-engb" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122479714:43
BluesKajwell, time to do a new clean install , my hdd was becoming really mucked up , the partiton table was pretty messy , so time to start "anew" 13.10 beta114:55
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ovidiu-florinRiddell: ping15:05
Riddellhi ovidiu-florin 15:06
ovidiu-florinhi15:06
ovidiu-florinhow do we proceed?15:06
Riddellovidiu-florin: want to put ro.kubuntu.org on the kubuntu web server?15:06
ovidiu-florinas long as I have acces to it, I agree15:07
Riddellovidiu-florin: what CMS does it use?15:07
ovidiu-florinDrupal15:07
ovidiu-florin715:07
Riddellovidiu-florin: so you should just need an ssh account and a mysql database and I set up the web server to point to it?15:08
ovidiu-florinftp?15:08
ovidiu-florinfor file upload by the editors15:08
Riddelldidn't ftp die last millenium?15:08
ovidiu-florinok, then15:09
Riddellovidiu-florin: drupal accepts file attachments15:09
ovidiu-florinI think drupal uses post for file uploads15:09
Riddellovidiu-florin: but public account registration must be turned off, else it becomes a spam trap15:09
ovidiu-florinof course15:09
ovidiu-florinit's turned off even now15:09
Riddellovidiu-florin: preferred username and ssh key?15:09
ovidiu-florinusername same as IRC: ovidiu-florin15:10
ovidiu-florinand ssh key should I type it here?15:11
Riddellovidiu-florin: got it on launchpad?15:12
Riddellelse pastebin15:13
ovidiu-florinRiddell: http://paste.kde.org/pfb86d904/51721813/15:14
ovidiu-florincould I change it later?15:14
ovidiu-florinthe ssh key?15:14
ovidiu-florinbecause right now I have my dad's laptop untill I buy one myself15:14
Riddellovidiu-florin: sure, it's your account, change whatever you like15:14
ovidiu-floringreat, thanks15:15
Riddellovidiu-florin: ssh ovidiu-florin@docs.kubuntu.co.uk15:16
ovidiu-florinRiddell: please update the ssh key http://paste.kde.org/p3256bc5e/95176121/15:20
Riddellovidiu-florin: updated ssh key15:22
ovidiu-florinthank you15:22
Riddellovidiu-florin: http://ro.kubuntu.co.uk/ ready to go15:23
shadeslayerfunky site15:23
ovidiu-florinwasn't it ro.kubuntu.org?15:23
ovidiu-florinRiddell: ^15:25
Riddellovidiu-florin: it will be when we ask canonical sysadmin to set it up but for now I've set up ro.kubuntu.co.uk since I have quick control of that15:25
ovidiu-florinok15:25
ovidiu-florinI'll start migrating15:25
ovidiu-florinthank you15:25
Riddellgood luck, let me know if you need anything15:25
ovidiu-florinhow much storage do I have?15:25
Riddellovidiu-florin: the server has 12G free, try not to use it all15:26
ovidiu-florinok15:26
ovidiu-florinto save space can I link images from the kubuntu.org site? or I should better copy them?15:27
ovidiu-florinby images I mean pictures15:27
ovidiu-florinnot ISO's15:27
shadeslayerRiddell: did Kubuntu get around to shipping kwallet patches that disable passwords etc?15:27
Riddellshadeslayer: unknown, I think we did but it doesn't seem to work, apachelogger was looking into it15:28
lordievaderovidiu-florin: Hehe you forgot the  "test, test. "15:28
Riddellovidiu-florin: yes good to use kubuntu.org directly for images15:28
ovidiu-florinperfect15:28
shadeslayeruhh15:31
shadeslayerfor some reason apt wants to install libunity-protocol-private015:31
shadeslayerand other unity stuff15:31
shadeslayerapparently autopilot-desktop pulls it in -.-15:32
Riddellsigh15:32
Riddellwhat the heck is that?15:32
lordievaderWasn't autopilot made to test Unity stuff?15:33
shadeslayerlordievader: I think it's a generic framework for testing out dekstop components15:40
shadeslayerused by unity15:40
shadeslayerapachelogger: so when I first login, kwallet doesn't pop up15:47
shadeslayerapachelogger: Riddell is that what we wanted?15:47
Riddellshadeslayer: it should just work no password needed15:47
shadeslayerit does however open the setup dialogs when I login into gmail15:47
shadeslayerhmm15:48
shadeslayerso it's broken15:49
* Riddell looks at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-workspace/ and notices a build for arm6415:55
Riddellnow that's going to be lots of fun15:55
Riddellhttp://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/09/16/windows_xp_ubuntu_offer_munich/  grr no mention of Kubuntu15:59
shadeslayerRiddell: can you upload mplayerthumbs plz16:36
shadeslayer4.11.116:36
shadeslayer!info mplayerthumbs saucy16:36
ubottumplayerthumbs (source: mplayerthumbs): video thumbnail generator using mplayer. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:4.11.0-0ubuntu1 (saucy), package size 32 kB, installed size 151 kB16:36
shadeslayeroh16:36
shadeslayerI could upload it since I think I pushed it to the supported seed16:36
shadeslayerhmm nope16:43
shadeslayerRiddell: halp, plz upload mplayerthumbs16:43
geniioddly someone was just complaining about this in #kubuntu16:44
Riddellshadeslayer: where from?16:57
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Riddellshadeslayer: uploaded from ninjas17:04
lordievaderRiddell: I'm done with the Kubuntu-Docs-Downloader: http://griffioen.no-ip.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs.html17:21
Riddelllordievader: ooh?17:22
Riddellnice smaller images17:22
lordievaderAt least my version looks very much like the version on wiki.kubuntu.org.17:22
yofelshadeslayer: when updating seeds you need to poke cj to refresh the package set. that's not automatic17:27
shadeslayerbah :/17:50
dmattI installed and updated Beta of 13.10, I am trying to troublehoot some problems with virtuoso19:17
dmattbut qdbus org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukqueryservice19:17
dmattreturns: qdbus: could not find a Qt installation of ''19:18
shadeslayerdmatt: wrong qdbus?19:19
shadeslayeryou have to use the qt4 version of qdbus19:19
dmatthow do i do that?19:19
shadeslayerinstall qt4-dev-tools19:20
dmattthanks19:20
dmattqt4.8.4 is still used? not bugfix .5?19:23
yofeltoo much regression potential in qt bugfix release, so 13.10 will stay on .419:29
yofel*releases19:29
shadeslayer^^19:35
shadeslayerRiddell: apachelogger some investigations into the KWallet passwordless bugs tell me that KWalletD::internalOpen is never called22:55
yofelhm, what was upstream's reasoning for not using sqlite as akonadi backend again? It works rather well with my ~40K mail account on  my netbook22:59
yofelIf you ignore the fact that one of my mail folders crashes akonadiserver that is22:59

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