[05:42] <kubotu> ::qt-bugs:: [1180067] No icons on buttons @ https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1180067 (by GamePad64)
[05:55] <soee> good morning
[05:56] <skreech_> morning
[07:12] <jussi> o7
[10:58] <cortexA9> all ok with kubuntu daily.
[10:58] <cortexA9> of today.
[11:04] <yofel> \o/
[11:05] <Riddell> cortexA9: great, thanks for testing
[11:06] <cortexA9> Riddell: no problem
[11:08] <Riddell> cortexA9: could you test if the wifi setup is still broken on installer only mode?
[11:09] <cortexA9> no wifi is good for me.
[11:09] <cortexA9> Riddell: just tested..
[11:09] <Riddell> cortexA9: but did you install in installer only mode or from a full live system?
[11:10] <cortexA9> oh Riddell sorry live system..
[11:10] <cortexA9> Riddell: doesn't work on installer ?
[11:11] <cortexA9> i didn't tried..
[11:21] <Riddell> cortexA9: there's a bug that only appears when in installer only mode and wifi needs setup, it crashes, if you're able to test that sometime it would be good
[11:24] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:29] <BluesKaj> http://www.pcworld.com/article/2048893/ibm-hopes-to-power-cloud-analytics-with-1-billion-linux-investment.html
[12:32] <apachelogger> again :O
[12:33] <apachelogger> hm, I still think arm servers are coolest ^^
[12:35] <Riddell> they still care about Power?
[12:42] <apachelogger> Riddell: power is still used for the super comput0rs
[12:42] <apachelogger> also power8 is fairly new
[12:42] <jussi> btw, did you all note the recently opensourced stuff my employer put out the other week? 
[12:43] <apachelogger> IIRC made for super insane mad multithreading
[12:43] <apachelogger> jussi: the answer is no
[12:43] <jussi> https://github.com/nomovok-opensource/
[12:43] <apachelogger> it's got webkit there
[12:44] <apachelogger> reminds me of Qt and the we put a browser in your browser plan xD
[12:44] <jussi> heh
[12:45] <jussi> no, the webkit bit is "we hated how ebkit did things crappily, so we ripped the backend out and made it fast"
[12:45] <Riddell> apachelogger: Qt just announced a move away from webkit
[12:45] <apachelogger> jussi: hm, wrath sounds a lot like QSG
[12:45] <jussi> Riddell: webkit to webkit fork... same thing...
[12:45] <Riddell> a fork of a fork, poor old khtml
[12:45] <jussi> apachelogger: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quality_Street_Gang ??? :P
[12:46] <apachelogger> jussi: qt scene graph
[12:46] <apachelogger> the thing used to draw stuff in qt5
[12:46] <apachelogger> using GL
[12:46] <jussi> apachelogger: no... no....
[12:46] <apachelogger> ^^
[12:46] <apachelogger> please englighten me
[12:46] <apachelogger> Riddell: as I understand it the plan is to put chrome into qt
[12:47] <jussi> QSG is much, much much, behind what wrath is doing. It does a very small bit of it
[13:05] <yofel> anyone know where ~/.xsession-errors went now that we have upstart user sessions?
[13:11] <Riddell> apachelogger: oh really? google dropping that gtk stuff?
[13:12] <Riddell> yofel: hmm I still have a ~/.xsession-errors but only a couple of messages in it
[13:12] <yofel> same here, I'm looking for the rest ^^
[13:37] <apachelogger> Riddell: has nothing to do with google :P
[13:37] <apachelogger> but I think what Qt is trying to get at is integration features of chrome such as proxy integration and multimedia and wallets and whatnot
[13:40] <Riddell> apachelogger: Qt are using chrome's branch rather than webkit's branch no?
[13:40] <Riddell> in future
[13:40] <debfx> yofel: ~/.cache/upstart/startkde.log or whatever the upstart job is called
[13:40] <yofel> thanks!
[13:41] <yofel> oh cool, that's even rotated \o/
[13:41] <apachelogger> Riddell: yes, which allows them to pick stuff from chome itself
[13:41] <apachelogger> but yaeh
[13:41] <apachelogger> I dunno enough about this
[13:41] <apachelogger> also I do not care
[13:41] <apachelogger> browser suck anyway
[13:41] <apachelogger> w3m ftw!
[13:42] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: enoflash :P
[13:42] <shadeslayer> or html5
[13:42] <apachelogger> ^features
[13:42] <apachelogger> like, really, features
[13:42] <shadeslayer> or javascript? :D
[13:42] <apachelogger> yes, feature
[13:42] <shadeslayer> ^_^
[13:43] <apachelogger> so google cannot track me
[13:43] <apachelogger> actually I think w3m supports js tho
[13:43] <apachelogger> to some degree anyway
[13:43] <Riddell> HTML 2 was the best, they should have stopped there
[13:44] <Riddell> w3m supports some CSS, I'd be impressed if it did js
[13:44] <shadeslayer> who needs browsers anyway
[13:46] <apachelogger> Riddell: hm, I do recall one of them fancy cli browsers to support js tho
[13:47] <apachelogger> ah
[13:47] <apachelogger> it was elinks
[13:47] <apachelogger> partial js and ecm3
[13:47] <apachelogger> emca3
[13:48] <Riddell> crazy
[13:48] <apachelogger> also wikipedia says links itself had js support at some point, was removed in 2012 again
[14:08] <Riddell> jussi, Tm_T: you guys going to pre-order this and tell us what it's like? http://jolla.com/
[14:08] <Riddell> only available in Finland
[14:20] <Tm_T> Riddell: I haven't bought a phone for ~10 years now and most likely won't this time either (:
[14:21] <Riddell> Tm_T: isn't having a shiny phone a requirement for living in Finland?
[14:21] <Tm_T> Riddell: I don't know, my current phone is from work
[14:43] <Riddell> bug 1224797
[14:55] <BluesKaj> well, time to do a new clean install , my hdd was becoming really mucked up , the partiton table was pretty messy , so time to start "anew" 13.10 beta1
[15:05] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: ping
[15:06] <Riddell> hi ovidiu-florin 
[15:06] <ovidiu-florin> hi
[15:06] <ovidiu-florin> how do we proceed?
[15:06] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: want to put ro.kubuntu.org on the kubuntu web server?
[15:07] <ovidiu-florin> as long as I have acces to it, I agree
[15:07] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: what CMS does it use?
[15:07] <ovidiu-florin> Drupal
[15:07] <ovidiu-florin> 7
[15:08] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: so you should just need an ssh account and a mysql database and I set up the web server to point to it?
[15:08] <ovidiu-florin> ftp?
[15:08] <ovidiu-florin> for file upload by the editors
[15:08] <Riddell> didn't ftp die last millenium?
[15:09] <ovidiu-florin> ok, then
[15:09] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: drupal accepts file attachments
[15:09] <ovidiu-florin> I think drupal uses post for file uploads
[15:09] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: but public account registration must be turned off, else it becomes a spam trap
[15:09] <ovidiu-florin> of course
[15:09] <ovidiu-florin> it's turned off even now
[15:09] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: preferred username and ssh key?
[15:10] <ovidiu-florin> username same as IRC: ovidiu-florin
[15:11] <ovidiu-florin> and ssh key should I type it here?
[15:12] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: got it on launchpad?
[15:13] <Riddell> else pastebin
[15:14] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: http://paste.kde.org/pfb86d904/51721813/
[15:14] <ovidiu-florin> could I change it later?
[15:14] <ovidiu-florin> the ssh key?
[15:14] <ovidiu-florin> because right now I have my dad's laptop untill I buy one myself
[15:14] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: sure, it's your account, change whatever you like
[15:15] <ovidiu-florin> great, thanks
[15:16] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: ssh ovidiu-florin@docs.kubuntu.co.uk
[15:20] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: please update the ssh key http://paste.kde.org/p3256bc5e/95176121/
[15:22] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: updated ssh key
[15:22] <ovidiu-florin> thank you
[15:23] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: http://ro.kubuntu.co.uk/ ready to go
[15:23] <shadeslayer> funky site
[15:23] <ovidiu-florin> wasn't it ro.kubuntu.org?
[15:25] <ovidiu-florin> Riddell: ^
[15:25] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: it will be when we ask canonical sysadmin to set it up but for now I've set up ro.kubuntu.co.uk since I have quick control of that
[15:25] <ovidiu-florin> ok
[15:25] <ovidiu-florin> I'll start migrating
[15:25] <ovidiu-florin> thank you
[15:25] <Riddell> good luck, let me know if you need anything
[15:25] <ovidiu-florin> how much storage do I have?
[15:26] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: the server has 12G free, try not to use it all
[15:26] <ovidiu-florin> ok
[15:27] <ovidiu-florin> to save space can I link images from the kubuntu.org site? or I should better copy them?
[15:27] <ovidiu-florin> by images I mean pictures
[15:27] <ovidiu-florin> not ISO's
[15:27] <shadeslayer> Riddell: did Kubuntu get around to shipping kwallet patches that disable passwords etc?
[15:28] <Riddell> shadeslayer: unknown, I think we did but it doesn't seem to work, apachelogger was looking into it
[15:28] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Hehe you forgot the  "test, test. "
[15:28] <Riddell> ovidiu-florin: yes good to use kubuntu.org directly for images
[15:28] <ovidiu-florin> perfect
[15:31] <shadeslayer> uhh
[15:31] <shadeslayer> for some reason apt wants to install libunity-protocol-private0
[15:31] <shadeslayer> and other unity stuff
[15:32] <shadeslayer> apparently autopilot-desktop pulls it in -.-
[15:32] <Riddell> sigh
[15:32] <Riddell> what the heck is that?
[15:33] <lordievader> Wasn't autopilot made to test Unity stuff?
[15:40] <shadeslayer> lordievader: I think it's a generic framework for testing out dekstop components
[15:40] <shadeslayer> used by unity
[15:47] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: so when I first login, kwallet doesn't pop up
[15:47] <shadeslayer> apachelogger: Riddell is that what we wanted?
[15:47] <Riddell> shadeslayer: it should just work no password needed
[15:47] <shadeslayer> it does however open the setup dialogs when I login into gmail
[15:48] <shadeslayer> hmm
[15:49] <shadeslayer> so it's broken
[15:55]  * Riddell looks at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kde-workspace/ and notices a build for arm64
[15:55] <Riddell> now that's going to be lots of fun
[15:59] <Riddell> http://www.theregister.co.uk/2013/09/16/windows_xp_ubuntu_offer_munich/  grr no mention of Kubuntu
[16:36] <shadeslayer> Riddell: can you upload mplayerthumbs plz
[16:36] <shadeslayer> 4.11.1
[16:36] <shadeslayer> !info mplayerthumbs saucy
[16:36] <shadeslayer> oh
[16:36] <shadeslayer> I could upload it since I think I pushed it to the supported seed
[16:43] <shadeslayer> hmm nope
[16:43] <shadeslayer> Riddell: halp, plz upload mplayerthumbs
[16:44] <genii> oddly someone was just complaining about this in #kubuntu
[16:57] <Riddell> shadeslayer: where from?
[17:04] <Riddell> shadeslayer: uploaded from ninjas
[17:21] <lordievader> Riddell: I'm done with the Kubuntu-Docs-Downloader: http://griffioen.no-ip.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs.html
[17:22] <Riddell> lordievader: ooh?
[17:22] <Riddell> nice smaller images
[17:22] <lordievader> At least my version looks very much like the version on wiki.kubuntu.org.
[17:27] <yofel> shadeslayer: when updating seeds you need to poke cj to refresh the package set. that's not automatic
[17:50] <shadeslayer> bah :/
[19:17] <dmatt> I installed and updated Beta of 13.10, I am trying to troublehoot some problems with virtuoso
[19:17] <dmatt> but qdbus org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukqueryservice
[19:18] <dmatt> returns: qdbus: could not find a Qt installation of ''
[19:19] <shadeslayer> dmatt: wrong qdbus?
[19:19] <shadeslayer> you have to use the qt4 version of qdbus
[19:19] <dmatt> how do i do that?
[19:20] <shadeslayer> install qt4-dev-tools
[19:20] <dmatt> thanks
[19:23] <dmatt> qt4.8.4 is still used? not bugfix .5?
[19:29] <yofel> too much regression potential in qt bugfix release, so 13.10 will stay on .4
[19:29] <yofel> *releases
[19:35] <shadeslayer> ^^
[22:55] <shadeslayer> Riddell: apachelogger some investigations into the KWallet passwordless bugs tell me that KWalletD::internalOpen is never called
[22:59] <yofel> hm, what was upstream's reasoning for not using sqlite as akonadi backend again? It works rather well with my ~40K mail account on  my netbook
[22:59] <yofel> If you ignore the fact that one of my mail folders crashes akonadiserver that is