[14:39] <TempUser> Do you have any estimates on how many (relatively) of the software packages of Ubuntu 12.04 AMD64 are available also for the ARM version? For example, are JDK and Scala available for Ubunut on ARM?
[14:39] <rbasak> TempUser: almost everything is available on ARM.
[14:40] <TempUser> rbasak: Thanks. What is your impression of what is _not_ available?
[14:40]  * ogra would say between 80-95% 
[14:40] <rbasak> TempUser: mostly obscure packages that few people use. When I look at them, I generally don't recognise any of them.
[14:40] <ogra> things that are hard to port ... like freepascal ... and packages depending on it for example
[14:41] <ogra> they are usually the rare cornercase ones
[14:47] <TempUser> Do you know where I can get a list of what packages are available?
[14:48] <rbasak> TempUser: http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/precise/main/binary-armhf/Packages.gz
[14:48] <rbasak> Also s/main/universe/
[14:49] <k1l> TempUser: packages.ubuntu.com
[14:50] <rbasak> k1l: unfortunately packages.u.c doesn't include arm for some reason
[14:50] <ogra> k1l, doesnt have ports arches
[14:50] <k1l> rbasak: you are right. i didnt look in which channel that question was raised.
[14:51] <rbasak> TempUser: don't forget universe, otherwise you'll miss many packages
[14:51] <k1l> but overall: what % do you think is available for arm from the x86 packages?
[14:52] <rbasak> * ogra would say between 80-95%
[14:52] <ogra> with a tendency to the higher value :)
[14:53] <Tassadar> does that include nonfree?
[14:53] <rbasak> I don't think a % is a fair representation anyway. It's the long tail. There are extremely few packages not covered that the majority care about.
[14:53] <k1l> ok, i would have guessed 75%+
[14:54] <ogra> yeah, as i said before most of them are corner cases
[14:54] <rbasak> I don't use much nonfree. Flash is noticeably absent.
[14:54] <ogra> stuff nobody regulary uses anyway
[14:54] <ogra> right, binary stuff is indeed rare
[14:54] <rbasak> Generally with nonfree ARM support is an exception. That's why free is awesome. Generally recompile and you're done.
[14:55] <ogra> ++
[15:02] <TempUser> (Thanks for answers)
[21:57] <day> does ubuntu-arm has native/permanent samba support?
[21:58] <infinity> day: Yes.  "ubuntu-arm" is just Ubuntu, it has all the same software, with the exception of a few x86-specific things.
[21:59] <day> infinity: 'of a few x86...' thats why i wasnt sure :p
[21:59] <day> im kinda tired of this android u cant do that you cant do this bullshit...
[21:59] <infinity> day: When I say x86-specific, I mean it.  Like binary drivers and such.
[21:59] <infinity> day: 99% of the Ubuntu archive is built for all the architectures we have.
[21:59] <day> infinity: y i got it. I just thought that maybe they werent ported etc..
[22:00] <day> infinity: sweet
[22:02] <day> what exactly is the difference between ubuntu-arm and touch. the ui aside
[22:03] <infinity> day: Well, the UI, and all the bits the UI depends on (Mir, Unity8, Qt5, etc).
[22:04] <infinity> day: Ubuntu Touch can also be seen as a tech preview for where Ubuntu Desktop will be heading, as we plan to converge on Mir and Unity8 on all platforms $later... Just not yet.
[22:06] <prpplague> infinity: anyone word on finding someone to take my money?
[22:06] <day> infinity: thanks for helping me out
[22:06] <day> gn8
[22:18] <infinity> prpplague: Say, are you still in New Orleans?
[22:19] <prpplague> yea, leaving in the morning
[22:19] <infinity> prpplague: Coming to the thing tonight?
[22:19] <prpplague> yea, planning to
[22:19] <infinity> prpplague: Anyhow, we could meet downstairs and have this conversation in person. :P
[22:19] <prpplague> ahh didin't realize you were here
[22:20] <infinity> I am.
[22:20] <infinity> Meet me by the LF registration desk in 5?  That's a pretty empty area.
[22:20] <prpplague> yep will do
[22:21] <prpplague> you mean 6?
[22:21] <prpplague> hehe
[22:21] <prpplague> heading down now
[22:29] <prp_plague> infinity at the lf booth on the 3rd floor