| dholbach | good morning | 07:04 |
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| daker | popey: PM ? | 11:43 |
| popey | daker: hey, sure. | 11:45 |
| jose | hey popey, mind a quick PM? | 11:58 |
| popey | sure | 11:59 |
| popey | any time | 11:59 |
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| bkerensa | cjohnston: your work may get forked :) | 18:56 |
| cjohnston | bkerensa: ? | 19:15 |
| bkerensa | cjohnston: your work on summit | 19:15 |
| cjohnston | for? | 19:15 |
| bkerensa | Mozilla Summit | 19:15 |
| bkerensa | ;) | 19:15 |
| cjohnston | why fork it? | 19:15 |
| cjohnston | why not just devel upstream | 19:15 |
| bkerensa | mhall119 encouraged us to use it | 19:16 |
| cjohnston | right... | 19:16 |
| cjohnston | but why fork it | 19:16 |
| bkerensa | cjohnston: the devel would not be useful downstream | 19:17 |
| cjohnston | what changes would be needed? | 19:17 |
| bkerensa | cjohnston: I'm certain anything Ubuntu specific | 19:18 |
| cjohnston | I'm not sure how much there is that's ubuntu specific | 19:18 |
| bkerensa | also vidyo/bbg integration instead of G+ | 19:18 |
| cjohnston | it doesn't have G+ integration | 19:19 |
| cjohnston | It's been used for two other conferences | 19:19 |
| cjohnston | that aren't Ubuntu | 19:19 |
| bkerensa | cjohnston: http://summit.ubuntu.com/uds-1308/meeting/21925/appdev-roundtable-tue/ | 19:20 |
| bkerensa | G+ | 19:20 |
| bkerensa | embedding | 19:20 |
| cjohnston | Where? | 19:21 |
| bkerensa | :s | 19:21 |
| bkerensa | you dont see it | 19:22 |
| popey | i think he means youtube | 19:22 |
| cjohnston | nope | 19:22 |
| cjohnston | it isn't youtube embedding either | 19:22 |
| cjohnston | its a url field | 19:22 |
| bkerensa | well that would be changed for instance | 19:22 |
| cjohnston | To? | 19:22 |
| bkerensa | Vidyo | 19:22 |
| bkerensa | or BBG | 19:22 |
| popey | surely that's just a url? | 19:22 |
| cjohnston | its still just a url isn't it? | 19:23 |
| popey | yeah, we paste them in when the conf starts | 19:23 |
| bkerensa | cjohnston: this would not be a url | 19:23 |
| mhall119 | actually the broadcast URL field assumes it's a youtube link, but htat wouldn't be hard to change | 19:23 |
| bkerensa | it would be embedding a bit of html5 | 19:23 |
| popey | would be nice for us to have the option to use something other than youtube | 19:23 |
| mhall119 | popey: agreed, maybe teh mozilla folks would be kind enough to send their improvements upstream so we can all benefit | 19:24 |
| cjohnston | agreed | 19:24 |
| bkerensa | it wouldnt be improvements more likely just customizations | 19:24 |
| bkerensa | Persona support | 19:25 |
| bkerensa | Vidyo for sessions | 19:25 |
| bkerensa | moz etherpad integration | 19:25 |
| cjohnston | etherpad is a url field | 19:25 |
| popey | sounds useful | 19:25 |
| bkerensa | probably bandcamp support for sessions | 19:25 |
| cjohnston | broadcast url sounds like it needs a little work, but its still just a url field | 19:25 |
| bkerensa | this summit were using SHW | 19:25 |
| bkerensa | SHW and a scattered amount of tools | 19:26 |
| mhall119 | etherpad should just work, Linaro used a separate pad host too | 19:27 |
| mhall119 | yeah, broadcast URL would be the only one I think | 19:27 |
| mhall119 | maybe the webchat would need a tweak to use mozilla's irc network instead of freenode's | 19:27 |
| mhall119 | but all of those could be made as configurable variables, they don't require a fork | 19:28 |
| cjohnston | +1 | 19:28 |
| bkerensa | mhall119: much of Mozilla's infrastructure is django | 19:29 |
| mhall119 | you should be able to replace Ubuntu SSO with Personas, might need to wrap link generation is a function if they're currently hard-coded to LP links | 19:29 |
| bkerensa | so integrating it all would be likely | 19:29 |
| mhall119 | bkerensa: I'm still pretty sure you can do all of that without forking | 19:29 |
| bkerensa | mhall119: forking in that we copy it and make our own repo and make our changes for our use | 19:29 |
| mhall119 | and I'd rather get MPs submitted to summit, instead of us having to pull our changes from your sites if we want ot use them | 19:30 |
| mhall119 | pull *your* changes that is | 19:30 |
| mhall119 | keeps asking me to enter it again/w 68 | 19:40 |
| mhall119 | ignore | 19:40 |
| cjohnston | bkerensa: isn't forking just going to cause more fragmentation? | 19:45 |
| bkerensa | cjohnston: Seems trivial at best. Any changes we make are not going to be useful to Canonical or other confs that have used Summit | 19:47 |
| bkerensa | we can just merge in stuff from summit upstream | 19:47 |
| bkerensa | and keep our changes | 19:47 |
| cjohnston | bkerensa: seems like there were three people, two of which being summit devs, were saying that everything you mentioned would be useful to upstream | 19:47 |
| bkerensa | Well I will mention it when we make the repo | 19:49 |
| bkerensa | cjohnston: its notably several years till our next summit | 19:49 |
| bkerensa | :) | 19:49 |
| bkerensa | so things could be different then | 19:49 |
| bkerensa | but ideally this could be used for our camps too | 19:49 |
| mhall119 | having a viable alternative to Google Hangouts has been something we've wanted since we started using them, so yes that is a change we would wnat upstreamed | 19:55 |
| bkerensa | mhall119: These apps require substantial financial investment and infrastructure | 19:58 |
| mhall119 | if *only* we has a corporate sponsor and some easy deployment technology.... | 19:59 |
| bkerensa | mhall119: the deployment is as in racks of servers and broadcast equipment and physical officers | 20:00 |
| bkerensa | officers* | 20:00 |
| mhall119 | you mean home users can't use it? | 20:04 |
| bkerensa | mhall119: they can but infrastructure is still needed | 20:06 |
| bkerensa | mhall119: http://www.vidyo.com/products/vidyogateway/ | 20:07 |
| bkerensa | they have hardware that powers the solution | 20:07 |
| mhall119 | is it open source? | 20:08 |
| bkerensa | mhall119: no | 20:08 |
| mhall119 | well it won't check all the boxes, but might still fix some | 20:08 |
| bkerensa | BBG is but Vidyo is not | 20:08 |
| mhall119 | can it be self-hosted, or only through their equipment? | 20:09 |
| mhall119 | curious why Moz isn't using WebRTC | 20:09 |
| bkerensa | mhall119: because Vidyo does a lot more | 20:10 |
| bkerensa | its corporate level comms | 20:10 |
| bkerensa | they can do pretty scalable broadcasting between all of their officers | 20:10 |
| bkerensa | offices* | 20:10 |
| bkerensa | it also have telephony built in | 20:10 |
| bkerensa | for those who cant do video/audio streaming | 20:11 |
| bkerensa | mhall119: Mozilla does support WebRTC though | 20:11 |
| mhall119 | I know they do, which is why it was curious that they weren't going to use it | 20:14 |
| jo-erlend_ | damn. New drama created by royk. I have to fix it by excluding him. It's not something I want to do. | 20:24 |
| bkerensa | jo-erlend_: royk? | 20:32 |
| jo-erlend_ | yes. | 20:33 |
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