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jbichaunity-webapps-service shouldn't depend on webbrowser-app, right?01:36
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jibelGood morning07:26
Laneyhey08:14
Laneysil2100: sil2100 sil2100 sil210008:14
sil2100Laney: wazzup?08:22
sil2100Morning!08:22
Laneyhallo08:22
Laneyso like, the webbrowser-app dep from unity-webapps-service seems a bit premature08:22
Laneythat MIR isn't granted08:22
Laneyand now the images fail to build08:22
sil2100Ooook, now that is quite a problem indeed, this is something we missed08:23
sil2100I already had a talk with upstream about it and they said that it's necessary to have the dep in08:23
sil2100Laney: what if we would have a recommends on that?08:24
Laneyno, I guess you want it installed08:24
sil2100Laney: right, but I can request a rewrite so that it would work without webbrowser-app installed, since I guess getting webbrowser-app into Main is not an option08:25
Laneywhy not?08:26
Laneyanyway: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-webapps-qml/+bug/120626808:26
sil2100Laney: I thought that we won't be including touch apps into main for now...08:27
LaneyI think this is a deliberate new way to launch the webapps?08:27
Laneyanyway, dunno, the problem currently is that we got the dependency without the mir08:28
Laney= bad08:28
sil2100Right, do you think trying to get a MIR for webbrowser-app would be the right way to go?08:29
Laneythat's the bug I linked08:30
Laneybut it is blocked08:30
sil2100Ah, right, I see the webbrowser-app now08:31
Laneymaybe you want to back out the change for now or something08:31
Laneychat to the upstream guys about it08:31
JamesTaitGood morning all!08:51
JamesTaitIs anyone else having trouble getting past the lightdm greeter this morning? I enter my password, it seems to accept it and attempt to start my session, then dumps me back at the greeter.08:52
LaneyJamesTait: Anything in your logs? /var/log/lightdm/ ~/.cache/upstart/08:59
JamesTaitLaney, sorry, only just seen your message.  I hadn't looked in ~/.cache/upstart but /var/log/auth.log was showing authentication failures in lightdm:auth, which is odd.09:07
JamesTaitLaney, anyway, I did an apt-get upgrade and restarted lightdm from a vt and now it's let me in.09:07
LaneyO_O09:07
JamesTaitLaney, I switched to vt1 to try and get help and diagnose, but when I came to switch back to vt7 it tried to start a failsafe-x session.09:08
Laneydid anything relevant get updated?09:09
JamesTaitLaney, that apparently failed (no gdm, I think), and when I switched back to vt1 there was no lightdm process running at all.09:09
JamesTaitLaney, just checking history.log, hang on.09:10
Laneyanyway, let us know if it happens again I guess09:11
JamesTaitYeah.  I think I recall seeing that someone else had the same situation the other day, but I can't remember who it was.09:12
JamesTaitLaney, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6123127/ is the log - I don't think I see anything obvious. Some Unity webapps stuff, some Java, Thunderbird latest ESR...09:16
JamesTaitTerrible wrapping. :-/09:17
SweetsharkMoin!09:50
SweetsharkWho will be the victi^Whero sponsoring LibreOffice 1:4.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu1? volunteers?09:51
Sweetshark30 minutes without a reply ...10:21
* Sweetshark considers wrestling down didrocks and make him do the sponsoring ...10:21
didrocksSweetshark: no no no ;) please try to get a patch pilot :p (or Laney who didn't want to vote in favor for you ;))10:38
didrocksSweetshark: TBH, I'm handling quite a lot of stuff, can't focus on sponsoring right now10:39
Sweetsharkdidrocks: k10:40
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LaneySweetshark: maybe at the end of the day, but I recommend catching a patch pilot if you can11:21
Laneyhttps://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=6k1e5rq45m1bdqq0n1ge3oqaok@group.calendar.google.com&gsessionid=OK11:21
LaneyI think the Monday people skipped their shifts ;-)11:23
SweetsharkLaney: hah, I wrote you a mail with the details and cc'ed pitti -- who according to that is todays pp ;)11:29
Laneysaw11:29
Laneypitti's at a conference though11:29
czajkowskialoha12:04
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bcurtiswxupdated last night and when logging in it just goes right back to lightdm12:10
bcurtiswxim guessing it may potentially be a unity-system-compositor issue too12:11
sil2100didrocks: is that ok? http://10.97.0.1:8080/job/cu2d-webapp-saucy-3.0publish/5/artifact/packaging_changes_libunity-webapps_2.5.0~+13.10.20130918-0ubuntu1.diff12:18
bcurtiswxI get a message of: "Failed to use bus name org.freedesktop.DisplayManager, do you have appropriate perissions?" but i'm not sure thats why it goes back to lightdm when i try logging in.12:22
didrockssil2100: good!12:26
bcurtiswxweird, i can login to another persons account on my desktop12:28
bcurtiswxbut mine just comes back to the lightdm screen12:28
bcurtiswxhow do you even debug that, lol12:31
pittiGood morning12:36
pittiSweetshark: yes, need to postpone/move my PP, I'm at plumbers12:36
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sil2100didrocks: can I ask for 2 preNEW's? Are you busy busy?12:45
sil2100:)12:45
didrockssil2100: I can handle that today, but not now now12:45
sil2100didrocks: good good goood goooood12:46
sil2100didrocks: lp:clickmanager-plugin and lp:click-update-manager <- those need preNEWing, they're missing bootstrapping but I'll add them now after they're ACKed12:46
didrocksok12:49
bcurtiswxis it possible that one account on a computer could use unity-system-compositor and another would not ?12:59
Sweetsharkpitti: alrighty, should I just wait, or do you have a standin? seb128 is on vacation, and I dont want to explain the details to ~everyone who possibly might upload as with LO there are a few more details than with other pkgs ...13:02
pittiSweetshark: well, TBH I only do very cursory checks on it anyway, so I guess any core dev could help out13:10
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jbichahi, could libappindicator be pushed to saucy?13:24
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sil2100jbicha: hi! You mean the new version?13:33
sil2100jbicha: did you put it on the Landing Asks tab ;) /13:33
jbichasil2100: can you paste the link as I don't have the spreadsheet bookmarked?13:35
Laneycan we get a release of ubuntu-system-settings?13:36
jbichait would be nice to have vala-0.16 out of main (libappindicator was the last rdepends)13:36
mlankhorst|lpcm0013:38
Laneyhello mlankhorst13:38
mlankhorst|lpcheya13:38
Laneyhow's new orleans?13:38
mlankhorst|lpcI realized I missed the meeting yWarm!13:39
mlankhorst|lpc:P13:39
mlankhorst|lpcvery warm actually13:39
Laneythere was no meeting13:39
sil2100jbicha: one moment13:40
sil2100Laney: that's in the works13:40
Laneyok13:40
sil2100Laney: will release u-s-s in a moment13:40
mlankhorst|lpcoh well13:40
mlankhorst|lpcnothing to miss then :P13:40
Laneythis manual business is annoying13:40
bcurtiswxhey all, my desktop session crashes and reverts back to lightdm, is there a way i can reset unity (i see the --reset option was deprecated)13:40
Laneytry #ubuntu-unity13:41
sil2100jbicha: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Au6idq7TkpUUdGNWb0tTVmJLVzFZd0doV3dVOGpWemc#gid=113:41
Laneybcurtiswx: logs show anything good?13:41
bcurtiswxLaney: logs are, well.. useless13:41
Laneydid you check ~/.cache/upstart/?13:41
bcurtiswx.xsession-errors shows nothing useful13:41
bcurtiswxhmm lemme check now13:41
mlankhorst|lpcosx terminal emulator is awful, need to get ubuntu running again13:42
jbichasil2100: ok I have read-only access13:42
sil2100jbicha: hm, then probably the best way is to poke asac13:43
sil2100jbicha: he's the guy responsible, so I guess he won't mind being poked about things liek that13:44
bcurtiswxLaney: unity-panel-service: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.13:44
Laneyerm13:44
Laneyyeah, let me redirect you to #ubuntu-unity :-)13:45
bcurtiswxLaney: i'm there thanks :)13:45
Laneycool13:45
asacjbicha: if you want something on the landing spreadsheet, go through our lead/manager please13:50
jbichaasac: who do you recommend I talk to? I'm not sure I know who the leads are13:53
bcurtiswxLaney: idk why but lightdm was getting permission denied from my .Xauthority file13:54
bcurtiswxremoved that and it lets me log in13:54
Laneywhat were the permissions?13:54
Laneycould that be apparmor?13:55
Laneycheck dmesg/syslog for denials13:55
jbichathe team work spreadsheet says talk to asac or didrocks for permission to release13:55
bcurtiswxi didn't check the file perms13:56
bcurtiswxit would be there if i coudl scroll up on my VT13:56
jbichatedg: maybe I need to ping you for publishing libappindicator?13:56
bcurtiswxbut it stops too early13:57
tedgjbicha, Honestly, not sure anymore.  It seems like magic right now.13:59
tedgI think that didrocks might be able to release things...14:00
didrocksjbicha: I think you need to ask tedg to add to the spreadsheet14:00
tedgdidrocks, For things that aren't on the touch image?14:01
didrockstedg: for everything that we land14:01
asacjbicha: get what you want to land on the landing spreadsheet14:02
asacjbicha: then ask me, didrocks or someone else if its good14:02
asacjbicha: we will most likely come to you with a set of autopilot tests that we want you to run on your phone first14:02
asacto give us assurance14:02
Laneylibappindicator isn't even on the phone14:04
jbichalol, I don't run Ubuntu phone :)14:05
jbichaexcept for building with the default vala, there's nothing at all risky here14:08
jbichahttps://bazaar.launchpad.net/~indicator-applet-developers/libappindicator/trunk.13.10/revision/26614:08
jbichaand the current version of libappindicator ftbfs (because it doesn't build-depend on at-spi2-core)14:08
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Laneydesrt: how come the new du API isn't documented in https://developer.gnome.org/gio/unstable/GFile.html properly?15:14
desrtaw crap.  probably forgot to add it to the symbols file.15:15
desrtfill fix before the final release15:15
desrt*will15:16
Laneyk15:16
happyaronis there a schedule of updating language packs?15:18
Sweetshark^^ while having a bazillion other things to my upstream stats do not look _that_ bad: 1062 commits (1.6%), 613KLOC changed (4.1%), 170KLOC removed (1.4%), 13 sign-offs (1.5%), 44 reviews (1.8%), 39 test creds (1.6%) ...15:21
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sil2100didrocks: !15:42
didrockssil2100: hey hey!15:42
sil2100didrocks: I have 3 packaging changes... all of them just remove qtdeclarative5-hud1.0 as the dependency, as it's not used, for apps: notes-app, gallery-app and webbrowser-app15:43
didrockssil2100: excellent! Loves cleaning, if this is the only thing, I trust you, so +1 ;)15:43
happyarondidrocks: mind review/upload LP #1226492?15:49
didrockshappyaron: hum, I would rather ping the patch pilot, don't really have time for those until I'm piloting TBH15:49
happyarondidrocks: no pilot...15:49
didrockshappyaron: maybe try later or tomorrow? If nothing in on Monday (I'll be back then), I can sponsor it15:50
happyarondidrocks: ok, thanks15:50
didrocksyw, do not hesitate to remind it to me on Monday15:51
didrocksI'll probably forget about it15:51
happyaron:)15:51
didrocks;)15:51
jbichaxnox: do you think you'll get a chance to finish https://code.launchpad.net/~jbicha/ubuntu-themes/drop-input-keyboard-icon/+merge/181793 by tomorrow?15:56
jbichait fixes this bug: http://imgbin.org/images/15107.png15:56
xnoxjbicha: yak. is tommorow the UI freeze?15:57
jbichaxnox: yeah :|15:57
xnoxjbicha: while this does change the UI, it's a bug fix to be honest and not /major UI revamp/ cause I have a few branches to merge check in the ubuntu-themes.15:58
xnoxjbicha: I'm at linux plumbers conference till the end of the week. I'll poke that and other bugs this evening.15:58
jbichaxnox: if it doesn't make it, it should be an easy uife, thanks15:59
jbichaenjoy the conference15:59
xnoxjbicha: cheers.16:00
SweetsharkLaney: since all other venues fell flat, I would still appreciate a LO upload.16:04
LaneySweetshark: soon then, if I get this code working16:05
Laneybdrung: when are you back? ^_^16:05
Sweetsharkfwiw, I am building on armhf too locally, but obviously that wont be finished before tommorrow ...16:05
SweetsharkLaney: no worries, Im not in a hurry as long as it goes in.16:05
Laneyxnox: got any LPC gossip?16:17
xnoxLaney: oh yeah =) splendid already16:19
xnoxLaney: they play Avicii as pre-talk music it's so cool ;-)16:19
Laneyhaha16:20
mlankhorst|lpchaha16:22
* Laney imagines mlankhorst getting on down to that16:23
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mlankhorst|lpcnope.avi16:23
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kgunnkenvandine: ping20:21
kgunnkenvandine: unping20:21
kenvandinekgunn that was easy :)20:22
kgunnkenvandine: any time!20:23
bdrungLaney: 12 days left till my deadline21:03
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