[01:36] <jbicha> unity-webapps-service shouldn't depend on webbrowser-app, right?
[07:26] <jibel> Good morning
[08:14] <Laney> hey
[08:14] <Laney> sil2100: sil2100 sil2100 sil2100
[08:22] <sil2100> Laney: wazzup?
[08:22] <sil2100> Morning!
[08:22] <Laney> hallo
[08:22] <Laney> so like, the webbrowser-app dep from unity-webapps-service seems a bit premature
[08:22] <Laney> that MIR isn't granted
[08:22] <Laney> and now the images fail to build
[08:23] <sil2100> Ooook, now that is quite a problem indeed, this is something we missed
[08:23] <sil2100> I already had a talk with upstream about it and they said that it's necessary to have the dep in
[08:24] <sil2100> Laney: what if we would have a recommends on that?
[08:24] <Laney> no, I guess you want it installed
[08:25] <sil2100> Laney: right, but I can request a rewrite so that it would work without webbrowser-app installed, since I guess getting webbrowser-app into Main is not an option
[08:26] <Laney> why not?
[08:26] <Laney> anyway: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-webapps-qml/+bug/1206268
[08:27] <sil2100> Laney: I thought that we won't be including touch apps into main for now...
[08:27] <Laney> I think this is a deliberate new way to launch the webapps?
[08:28] <Laney> anyway, dunno, the problem currently is that we got the dependency without the mir
[08:28] <Laney> = bad
[08:29] <sil2100> Right, do you think trying to get a MIR for webbrowser-app would be the right way to go?
[08:30] <Laney> that's the bug I linked
[08:30] <Laney> but it is blocked
[08:31] <sil2100> Ah, right, I see the webbrowser-app now
[08:31] <Laney> maybe you want to back out the change for now or something
[08:31] <Laney> chat to the upstream guys about it
[08:51] <JamesTait> Good morning all!
[08:52] <JamesTait> Is anyone else having trouble getting past the lightdm greeter this morning? I enter my password, it seems to accept it and attempt to start my session, then dumps me back at the greeter.
[08:59] <Laney> JamesTait: Anything in your logs? /var/log/lightdm/ ~/.cache/upstart/
[09:07] <JamesTait> Laney, sorry, only just seen your message.  I hadn't looked in ~/.cache/upstart but /var/log/auth.log was showing authentication failures in lightdm:auth, which is odd.
[09:07] <JamesTait> Laney, anyway, I did an apt-get upgrade and restarted lightdm from a vt and now it's let me in.
[09:07] <Laney> O_O
[09:08] <JamesTait> Laney, I switched to vt1 to try and get help and diagnose, but when I came to switch back to vt7 it tried to start a failsafe-x session.
[09:09] <Laney> did anything relevant get updated?
[09:09] <JamesTait> Laney, that apparently failed (no gdm, I think), and when I switched back to vt1 there was no lightdm process running at all.
[09:10] <JamesTait> Laney, just checking history.log, hang on.
[09:11] <Laney> anyway, let us know if it happens again I guess
[09:12] <JamesTait> Yeah.  I think I recall seeing that someone else had the same situation the other day, but I can't remember who it was.
[09:16] <JamesTait> Laney, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6123127/ is the log - I don't think I see anything obvious. Some Unity webapps stuff, some Java, Thunderbird latest ESR...
[09:17] <JamesTait> Terrible wrapping. :-/
[09:50] <Sweetshark> Moin!
[09:51] <Sweetshark> Who will be the victi^Whero sponsoring LibreOffice 1:4.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu1? volunteers?
[10:21] <Sweetshark> 30 minutes without a reply ...
[10:21]  * Sweetshark considers wrestling down didrocks and make him do the sponsoring ...
[10:38] <didrocks> Sweetshark: no no no ;) please try to get a patch pilot :p (or Laney who didn't want to vote in favor for you ;))
[10:39] <didrocks> Sweetshark: TBH, I'm handling quite a lot of stuff, can't focus on sponsoring right now
[10:40] <Sweetshark> didrocks: k
[11:21] <Laney> Sweetshark: maybe at the end of the day, but I recommend catching a patch pilot if you can
[11:21] <Laney> https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=6k1e5rq45m1bdqq0n1ge3oqaok@group.calendar.google.com&gsessionid=OK
[11:23] <Laney> I think the Monday people skipped their shifts ;-)
[11:29] <Sweetshark> Laney: hah, I wrote you a mail with the details and cc'ed pitti -- who according to that is todays pp ;)
[11:29] <Laney> saw
[11:29] <Laney> pitti's at a conference though
[12:04] <czajkowski> aloha
[12:10] <bcurtiswx> updated last night and when logging in it just goes right back to lightdm
[12:11] <bcurtiswx> im guessing it may potentially be a unity-system-compositor issue too
[12:18] <sil2100> didrocks: is that ok? http://10.97.0.1:8080/job/cu2d-webapp-saucy-3.0publish/5/artifact/packaging_changes_libunity-webapps_2.5.0~+13.10.20130918-0ubuntu1.diff
[12:22] <bcurtiswx> I get a message of: "Failed to use bus name org.freedesktop.DisplayManager, do you have appropriate perissions?" but i'm not sure thats why it goes back to lightdm when i try logging in.
[12:26] <didrocks> sil2100: good!
[12:28] <bcurtiswx> weird, i can login to another persons account on my desktop
[12:28] <bcurtiswx> but mine just comes back to the lightdm screen
[12:31] <bcurtiswx> how do you even debug that, lol
[12:36] <pitti> Good morning
[12:36] <pitti> Sweetshark: yes, need to postpone/move my PP, I'm at plumbers
[12:45] <sil2100> didrocks: can I ask for 2 preNEW's? Are you busy busy?
[12:45] <sil2100> :)
[12:45] <didrocks> sil2100: I can handle that today, but not now now
[12:46] <sil2100> didrocks: good good goood goooood
[12:46] <sil2100> didrocks: lp:clickmanager-plugin and lp:click-update-manager <- those need preNEWing, they're missing bootstrapping but I'll add them now after they're ACKed
[12:49] <didrocks> ok
[12:59] <bcurtiswx> is it possible that one account on a computer could use unity-system-compositor and another would not ?
[13:02] <Sweetshark> pitti: alrighty, should I just wait, or do you have a standin? seb128 is on vacation, and I dont want to explain the details to ~everyone who possibly might upload as with LO there are a few more details than with other pkgs ...
[13:10] <pitti> Sweetshark: well, TBH I only do very cursory checks on it anyway, so I guess any core dev could help out
[13:24] <jbicha> hi, could libappindicator be pushed to saucy?
[13:33] <sil2100> jbicha: hi! You mean the new version?
[13:33] <sil2100> jbicha: did you put it on the Landing Asks tab ;) /
[13:35] <jbicha> sil2100: can you paste the link as I don't have the spreadsheet bookmarked?
[13:36] <Laney> can we get a release of ubuntu-system-settings?
[13:36] <jbicha> it would be nice to have vala-0.16 out of main (libappindicator was the last rdepends)
[13:38] <mlankhorst|lpc> m00
[13:38] <Laney> hello mlankhorst
[13:38] <mlankhorst|lpc> heya
[13:38] <Laney> how's new orleans?
[13:39] <mlankhorst|lpc> I realized I missed the meeting yWarm!
[13:39] <mlankhorst|lpc> :P
[13:39] <mlankhorst|lpc> very warm actually
[13:39] <Laney> there was no meeting
[13:40] <sil2100> jbicha: one moment
[13:40] <sil2100> Laney: that's in the works
[13:40] <Laney> ok
[13:40] <sil2100> Laney: will release u-s-s in a moment
[13:40] <mlankhorst|lpc> oh well
[13:40] <mlankhorst|lpc> nothing to miss then :P
[13:40] <Laney> this manual business is annoying
[13:40] <bcurtiswx> hey all, my desktop session crashes and reverts back to lightdm, is there a way i can reset unity (i see the --reset option was deprecated)
[13:41] <Laney> try #ubuntu-unity
[13:41] <sil2100> jbicha: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Au6idq7TkpUUdGNWb0tTVmJLVzFZd0doV3dVOGpWemc#gid=1
[13:41] <Laney> bcurtiswx: logs show anything good?
[13:41] <bcurtiswx> Laney: logs are, well.. useless
[13:41] <Laney> did you check ~/.cache/upstart/?
[13:41] <bcurtiswx> .xsession-errors shows nothing useful
[13:41] <bcurtiswx> hmm lemme check now
[13:42] <mlankhorst|lpc> osx terminal emulator is awful, need to get ubuntu running again
[13:42] <jbicha> sil2100: ok I have read-only access
[13:43] <sil2100> jbicha: hm, then probably the best way is to poke asac
[13:44] <sil2100> jbicha: he's the guy responsible, so I guess he won't mind being poked about things liek that
[13:44] <bcurtiswx> Laney: unity-panel-service: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0.
[13:44] <Laney> erm
[13:45] <Laney> yeah, let me redirect you to #ubuntu-unity :-)
[13:45] <bcurtiswx> Laney: i'm there thanks :)
[13:45] <Laney> cool
[13:50] <asac> jbicha: if you want something on the landing spreadsheet, go through our lead/manager please
[13:53] <jbicha> asac: who do you recommend I talk to? I'm not sure I know who the leads are
[13:54] <bcurtiswx> Laney: idk why but lightdm was getting permission denied from my .Xauthority file
[13:54] <bcurtiswx> removed that and it lets me log in
[13:54] <Laney> what were the permissions?
[13:55] <Laney> could that be apparmor?
[13:55] <Laney> check dmesg/syslog for denials
[13:55] <jbicha> the team work spreadsheet says talk to asac or didrocks for permission to release
[13:56] <bcurtiswx> i didn't check the file perms
[13:56] <bcurtiswx> it would be there if i coudl scroll up on my VT
[13:56] <jbicha> tedg: maybe I need to ping you for publishing libappindicator?
[13:57] <bcurtiswx> but it stops too early
[13:59] <tedg> jbicha, Honestly, not sure anymore.  It seems like magic right now.
[14:00] <tedg> I think that didrocks might be able to release things...
[14:00] <didrocks> jbicha: I think you need to ask tedg to add to the spreadsheet
[14:01] <tedg> didrocks, For things that aren't on the touch image?
[14:01] <didrocks> tedg: for everything that we land
[14:02] <asac> jbicha: get what you want to land on the landing spreadsheet
[14:02] <asac> jbicha: then ask me, didrocks or someone else if its good
[14:02] <asac> jbicha: we will most likely come to you with a set of autopilot tests that we want you to run on your phone first
[14:02] <asac> to give us assurance
[14:04] <Laney> libappindicator isn't even on the phone
[14:05] <jbicha> lol, I don't run Ubuntu phone :)
[14:08] <jbicha> except for building with the default vala, there's nothing at all risky here
[14:08] <jbicha> https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~indicator-applet-developers/libappindicator/trunk.13.10/revision/266
[14:08] <jbicha> and the current version of libappindicator ftbfs (because it doesn't build-depend on at-spi2-core)
[15:14] <Laney> desrt: how come the new du API isn't documented in https://developer.gnome.org/gio/unstable/GFile.html properly?
[15:15] <desrt> aw crap.  probably forgot to add it to the symbols file.
[15:15] <desrt> fill fix before the final release
[15:16] <desrt> *will
[15:16] <Laney> k
[15:18] <happyaron> is there a schedule of updating language packs?
[15:21] <Sweetshark> ^^ while having a bazillion other things to my upstream stats do not look _that_ bad: 1062 commits (1.6%), 613KLOC changed (4.1%), 170KLOC removed (1.4%), 13 sign-offs (1.5%), 44 reviews (1.8%), 39 test creds (1.6%) ...
[15:42] <sil2100> didrocks: !
[15:42] <didrocks> sil2100: hey hey!
[15:43] <sil2100> didrocks: I have 3 packaging changes... all of them just remove qtdeclarative5-hud1.0 as the dependency, as it's not used, for apps: notes-app, gallery-app and webbrowser-app
[15:43] <didrocks> sil2100: excellent! Loves cleaning, if this is the only thing, I trust you, so +1 ;)
[15:49] <happyaron> didrocks: mind review/upload LP #1226492?
[15:49] <didrocks> happyaron: hum, I would rather ping the patch pilot, don't really have time for those until I'm piloting TBH
[15:49] <happyaron> didrocks: no pilot...
[15:50] <didrocks> happyaron: maybe try later or tomorrow? If nothing in on Monday (I'll be back then), I can sponsor it
[15:50] <happyaron> didrocks: ok, thanks
[15:51] <didrocks> yw, do not hesitate to remind it to me on Monday
[15:51] <didrocks> I'll probably forget about it
[15:51] <happyaron> :)
[15:51] <didrocks> ;)
[15:56] <jbicha> xnox: do you think you'll get a chance to finish https://code.launchpad.net/~jbicha/ubuntu-themes/drop-input-keyboard-icon/+merge/181793 by tomorrow?
[15:56] <jbicha> it fixes this bug: http://imgbin.org/images/15107.png
[15:57] <xnox> jbicha: yak. is tommorow the UI freeze?
[15:57] <jbicha> xnox: yeah :|
[15:58] <xnox> jbicha: while this does change the UI, it's a bug fix to be honest and not /major UI revamp/ cause I have a few branches to merge check in the ubuntu-themes.
[15:58] <xnox> jbicha: I'm at linux plumbers conference till the end of the week. I'll poke that and other bugs this evening.
[15:59] <jbicha> xnox: if it doesn't make it, it should be an easy uife, thanks
[15:59] <jbicha> enjoy the conference
[16:00] <xnox> jbicha: cheers.
[16:04] <Sweetshark> Laney: since all other venues fell flat, I would still appreciate a LO upload.
[16:05] <Laney> Sweetshark: soon then, if I get this code working
[16:05] <Laney> bdrung: when are you back? ^_^
[16:05] <Sweetshark> fwiw, I am building on armhf too locally, but obviously that wont be finished before tommorrow ...
[16:05] <Sweetshark> Laney: no worries, Im not in a hurry as long as it goes in.
[16:17] <Laney> xnox: got any LPC gossip?
[16:19] <xnox> Laney: oh yeah =) splendid already
[16:19] <xnox> Laney: they play Avicii as pre-talk music it's so cool ;-)
[16:20] <Laney> haha
[16:22] <mlankhorst|lpc> haha
[16:23]  * Laney imagines mlankhorst getting on down to that
[16:23] <mlankhorst|lpc> nope.avi
[20:21] <kgunn> kenvandine: ping
[20:21] <kgunn> kenvandine: unping
[20:22] <kenvandine> kgunn that was easy :)
[20:23] <kgunn> kenvandine: any time!
[21:03] <bdrung> Laney: 12 days left till my deadline