[01:36] unity-webapps-service shouldn't depend on webbrowser-app, right? === jjardon_ is now known as jjardon === a16g_ is now known as ypwong === mfisch` is now known as mfisch === mfisch is now known as Guest10530 === slomo__ is now known as slomo [07:26] Good morning [08:14] hey [08:14] sil2100: sil2100 sil2100 sil2100 [08:22] Laney: wazzup? [08:22] Morning! [08:22] hallo [08:22] so like, the webbrowser-app dep from unity-webapps-service seems a bit premature [08:22] that MIR isn't granted [08:22] and now the images fail to build [08:23] Ooook, now that is quite a problem indeed, this is something we missed [08:23] I already had a talk with upstream about it and they said that it's necessary to have the dep in [08:24] Laney: what if we would have a recommends on that? [08:24] no, I guess you want it installed [08:25] Laney: right, but I can request a rewrite so that it would work without webbrowser-app installed, since I guess getting webbrowser-app into Main is not an option [08:26] why not? [08:26] anyway: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-webapps-qml/+bug/1206268 [08:27] Laney: I thought that we won't be including touch apps into main for now... [08:27] I think this is a deliberate new way to launch the webapps? [08:28] anyway, dunno, the problem currently is that we got the dependency without the mir [08:28] = bad [08:29] Right, do you think trying to get a MIR for webbrowser-app would be the right way to go? [08:30] that's the bug I linked [08:30] but it is blocked [08:31] Ah, right, I see the webbrowser-app now [08:31] maybe you want to back out the change for now or something [08:31] chat to the upstream guys about it [08:51] Good morning all! [08:52] Is anyone else having trouble getting past the lightdm greeter this morning? I enter my password, it seems to accept it and attempt to start my session, then dumps me back at the greeter. [08:59] JamesTait: Anything in your logs? /var/log/lightdm/ ~/.cache/upstart/ [09:07] Laney, sorry, only just seen your message. I hadn't looked in ~/.cache/upstart but /var/log/auth.log was showing authentication failures in lightdm:auth, which is odd. [09:07] Laney, anyway, I did an apt-get upgrade and restarted lightdm from a vt and now it's let me in. [09:07] O_O [09:08] Laney, I switched to vt1 to try and get help and diagnose, but when I came to switch back to vt7 it tried to start a failsafe-x session. [09:09] did anything relevant get updated? [09:09] Laney, that apparently failed (no gdm, I think), and when I switched back to vt1 there was no lightdm process running at all. [09:10] Laney, just checking history.log, hang on. [09:11] anyway, let us know if it happens again I guess [09:12] Yeah. I think I recall seeing that someone else had the same situation the other day, but I can't remember who it was. [09:16] Laney, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6123127/ is the log - I don't think I see anything obvious. Some Unity webapps stuff, some Java, Thunderbird latest ESR... [09:17] Terrible wrapping. :-/ [09:50] Moin! [09:51] Who will be the victi^Whero sponsoring LibreOffice 1:4.1.2~rc2-0ubuntu1? volunteers? [10:21] 30 minutes without a reply ... [10:21] * Sweetshark considers wrestling down didrocks and make him do the sponsoring ... [10:38] Sweetshark: no no no ;) please try to get a patch pilot :p (or Laney who didn't want to vote in favor for you ;)) [10:39] Sweetshark: TBH, I'm handling quite a lot of stuff, can't focus on sponsoring right now [10:40] didrocks: k === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [11:21] Sweetshark: maybe at the end of the day, but I recommend catching a patch pilot if you can [11:21] https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=6k1e5rq45m1bdqq0n1ge3oqaok@group.calendar.google.com&gsessionid=OK [11:23] I think the Monday people skipped their shifts ;-) [11:29] Laney: hah, I wrote you a mail with the details and cc'ed pitti -- who according to that is todays pp ;) [11:29] saw [11:29] pitti's at a conference though [12:04] aloha === MacSlow|lunch is now known as MacSlow [12:10] updated last night and when logging in it just goes right back to lightdm [12:11] im guessing it may potentially be a unity-system-compositor issue too [12:18] didrocks: is that ok? http://10.97.0.1:8080/job/cu2d-webapp-saucy-3.0publish/5/artifact/packaging_changes_libunity-webapps_2.5.0~+13.10.20130918-0ubuntu1.diff [12:22] I get a message of: "Failed to use bus name org.freedesktop.DisplayManager, do you have appropriate perissions?" but i'm not sure thats why it goes back to lightdm when i try logging in. [12:26] sil2100: good! [12:28] weird, i can login to another persons account on my desktop [12:28] but mine just comes back to the lightdm screen [12:31] how do you even debug that, lol [12:36] Good morning [12:36] Sweetshark: yes, need to postpone/move my PP, I'm at plumbers === thomi_ is now known as thomi [12:45] didrocks: can I ask for 2 preNEW's? Are you busy busy? [12:45] :) [12:45] sil2100: I can handle that today, but not now now [12:46] didrocks: good good goood goooood [12:46] didrocks: lp:clickmanager-plugin and lp:click-update-manager <- those need preNEWing, they're missing bootstrapping but I'll add them now after they're ACKed [12:49] ok [12:59] is it possible that one account on a computer could use unity-system-compositor and another would not ? [13:02] pitti: alrighty, should I just wait, or do you have a standin? seb128 is on vacation, and I dont want to explain the details to ~everyone who possibly might upload as with LO there are a few more details than with other pkgs ... [13:10] Sweetshark: well, TBH I only do very cursory checks on it anyway, so I guess any core dev could help out === Ursinha is now known as Ursinha-afk [13:24] hi, could libappindicator be pushed to saucy? === m_conley_away is now known as m_conley [13:33] jbicha: hi! You mean the new version? [13:33] jbicha: did you put it on the Landing Asks tab ;) / [13:35] sil2100: can you paste the link as I don't have the spreadsheet bookmarked? [13:36] can we get a release of ubuntu-system-settings? [13:36] it would be nice to have vala-0.16 out of main (libappindicator was the last rdepends) [13:38] m00 [13:38] hello mlankhorst [13:38] heya [13:38] how's new orleans? [13:39] I realized I missed the meeting yWarm! [13:39] :P [13:39] very warm actually [13:39] there was no meeting [13:40] jbicha: one moment [13:40] Laney: that's in the works [13:40] ok [13:40] Laney: will release u-s-s in a moment [13:40] oh well [13:40] nothing to miss then :P [13:40] this manual business is annoying [13:40] hey all, my desktop session crashes and reverts back to lightdm, is there a way i can reset unity (i see the --reset option was deprecated) [13:41] try #ubuntu-unity [13:41] jbicha: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Au6idq7TkpUUdGNWb0tTVmJLVzFZd0doV3dVOGpWemc#gid=1 [13:41] bcurtiswx: logs show anything good? [13:41] Laney: logs are, well.. useless [13:41] did you check ~/.cache/upstart/? [13:41] .xsession-errors shows nothing useful [13:41] hmm lemme check now [13:42] osx terminal emulator is awful, need to get ubuntu running again [13:42] sil2100: ok I have read-only access [13:43] jbicha: hm, then probably the best way is to poke asac [13:44] jbicha: he's the guy responsible, so I guess he won't mind being poked about things liek that [13:44] Laney: unity-panel-service: Fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server :0. [13:44] erm [13:45] yeah, let me redirect you to #ubuntu-unity :-) [13:45] Laney: i'm there thanks :) [13:45] cool [13:50] jbicha: if you want something on the landing spreadsheet, go through our lead/manager please [13:53] asac: who do you recommend I talk to? I'm not sure I know who the leads are [13:54] Laney: idk why but lightdm was getting permission denied from my .Xauthority file [13:54] removed that and it lets me log in [13:54] what were the permissions? [13:55] could that be apparmor? [13:55] check dmesg/syslog for denials [13:55] the team work spreadsheet says talk to asac or didrocks for permission to release [13:56] i didn't check the file perms [13:56] it would be there if i coudl scroll up on my VT [13:56] tedg: maybe I need to ping you for publishing libappindicator? [13:57] but it stops too early [13:59] jbicha, Honestly, not sure anymore. It seems like magic right now. [14:00] I think that didrocks might be able to release things... [14:00] jbicha: I think you need to ask tedg to add to the spreadsheet [14:01] didrocks, For things that aren't on the touch image? [14:01] tedg: for everything that we land [14:02] jbicha: get what you want to land on the landing spreadsheet [14:02] jbicha: then ask me, didrocks or someone else if its good [14:02] jbicha: we will most likely come to you with a set of autopilot tests that we want you to run on your phone first [14:02] to give us assurance [14:04] libappindicator isn't even on the phone [14:05] lol, I don't run Ubuntu phone :) [14:08] except for building with the default vala, there's nothing at all risky here [14:08] https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~indicator-applet-developers/libappindicator/trunk.13.10/revision/266 [14:08] and the current version of libappindicator ftbfs (because it doesn't build-depend on at-spi2-core) === Guest10530 is now known as mfisch === mfisch is now known as Guest22239 === bcurtiswx is now known as Guest36562 === hggdh_ is now known as hggdh [15:14] desrt: how come the new du API isn't documented in https://developer.gnome.org/gio/unstable/GFile.html properly? [15:15] aw crap. probably forgot to add it to the symbols file. [15:15] fill fix before the final release [15:16] *will [15:16] k [15:18] is there a schedule of updating language packs? [15:21] ^^ while having a bazillion other things to my upstream stats do not look _that_ bad: 1062 commits (1.6%), 613KLOC changed (4.1%), 170KLOC removed (1.4%), 13 sign-offs (1.5%), 44 reviews (1.8%), 39 test creds (1.6%) ... === Guest22239 is now known as mfisch === mfisch is now known as Guest20042 [15:42] didrocks: ! [15:42] sil2100: hey hey! [15:43] didrocks: I have 3 packaging changes... all of them just remove qtdeclarative5-hud1.0 as the dependency, as it's not used, for apps: notes-app, gallery-app and webbrowser-app [15:43] sil2100: excellent! Loves cleaning, if this is the only thing, I trust you, so +1 ;) [15:49] didrocks: mind review/upload LP #1226492? [15:49] happyaron: hum, I would rather ping the patch pilot, don't really have time for those until I'm piloting TBH [15:49] didrocks: no pilot... [15:50] happyaron: maybe try later or tomorrow? If nothing in on Monday (I'll be back then), I can sponsor it [15:50] didrocks: ok, thanks [15:51] yw, do not hesitate to remind it to me on Monday [15:51] I'll probably forget about it [15:51] :) [15:51] ;) [15:56] xnox: do you think you'll get a chance to finish https://code.launchpad.net/~jbicha/ubuntu-themes/drop-input-keyboard-icon/+merge/181793 by tomorrow? [15:56] it fixes this bug: http://imgbin.org/images/15107.png [15:57] jbicha: yak. is tommorow the UI freeze? [15:57] xnox: yeah :| [15:58] jbicha: while this does change the UI, it's a bug fix to be honest and not /major UI revamp/ cause I have a few branches to merge check in the ubuntu-themes. [15:58] jbicha: I'm at linux plumbers conference till the end of the week. I'll poke that and other bugs this evening. [15:59] xnox: if it doesn't make it, it should be an easy uife, thanks [15:59] enjoy the conference [16:00] jbicha: cheers. [16:04] Laney: since all other venues fell flat, I would still appreciate a LO upload. [16:05] Sweetshark: soon then, if I get this code working [16:05] bdrung: when are you back? ^_^ [16:05] fwiw, I am building on armhf too locally, but obviously that wont be finished before tommorrow ... [16:05] Laney: no worries, Im not in a hurry as long as it goes in. [16:17] xnox: got any LPC gossip? [16:19] Laney: oh yeah =) splendid already [16:19] Laney: they play Avicii as pre-talk music it's so cool ;-) [16:20] haha [16:22] haha [16:23] * Laney imagines mlankhorst getting on down to that === psivaa is now known as psivaa-afk-bbl [16:23] nope.avi === Guest20042 is now known as mfisch === mfisch is now known as Guest66657 === sam113101 is now known as sam113101_afk === sam113101_afk is now known as sam113101 === Guest66657 is now known as mfisch === mfisch is now known as Guest6677 === psivaa-afk-bbl is now known as psivaa === Ursinha-afk is now known as Ursinha [20:21] kenvandine: ping [20:21] kenvandine: unping [20:22] kgunn that was easy :) [20:23] kenvandine: any time! [21:03] Laney: 12 days left till my deadline === Guest6677 is now known as mfisch === mfisch is now known as Guest72565 === thumper is now known as thumper-gym