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pkhJust loaded up the beta1, no icons on the screen, 'Install Ubuntu GNOME 13.10' menu item does nothing -- can someone point me to the actual command run from that menu item so I can try to work out what the issue is before putting in a bug report -- or is this known?01:48
pkhah, found the bug in launchpad now I know what is actually running01:55
darkxstpkh, if you mean the ubuiquity --no-sso bug, that was supposed to be fixed03:25
darkxstoh your using beta1? its best to test with the current daily images!03:26
bjsniderthat's why i've always argued for removing beta/alpha images, because people come in and report bugs that are a week or more old04:30
bjsnidernot realizing they've been fixed04:30
pkhdarkxst: just saw your response, thanks -- I've installed the daily now.04:34
pkhjust wanted to make sure I got enough details to file a report if approprite.04:34
darkxstbjsnider, yeh, and to make it worse this is always a bunch of fixes queued up that don't make it in until the day after release!04:41
darkxsts/this/there/04:41
bjsnideryeah i've seen that too04:41
bjsniderbut at the end of every cycle in the +1 channel there are people coming in using 10-day old spins and reporting bugs that have been fixed in the daily image04:42
bjsnideri wish the old links were removed04:42
bjsnideror users were told to use the newer spins04:42
darkxstI think people assume that the milestone releases are more stable04:49
ricotzdarkxst, add an breaks/replaces to libgweather-3-3 against libgweather-3-6 like for e-d-s05:32
darkxstI did05:34
darkxst+Breaks: libgweather-3-3 (>= 3.9)05:34
darkxst+Replaces: libgweather-3-3 (>= 3.9)05:34
ricotzok, it this a last missed soname bump?05:35
darkxstyes, pretty sure its that last05:35
ricotzif you arent sure give someone a chance to give it a slight review before you are copy things over05:36
darkxstok05:40
darkxstricotz, did you have to revert any more commits for the mutter update?05:41
ricotzone more f96dc97c4f421c38384cd25775f8478ffd30919105:44
Andy80hi guys12:49
Andy80I'm trying to understand if this problem is related to GNOME or not. Using Chrome on GNOME, how do you access the "File" menu?12:50
bjsnideranswer to above question: chrome doesn't have a menubar on any operating system. everything is under the tools button.14:21
ricotzdarkxst, i am going to take care of gnome-desktop3 3.9.9214:49
Guest17032having some issues trying to install gnome-shell and ubuntu-gnome-desktop and now I am getting hit with an unmet dependency.  I cannot purge the install, I cannot purge the PPA, I cannot install any programs until it is fixed.  can anyone help?17:27
Guest17032annnnnnddd this room is dead17:29
bjsnideryes17:39
bjsniderpastebin your console output17:39
bjsniderGuest17032, pastebin your console output17:43
Guest17032bjsnider, thanks.  let me do that now17:51
Guest17032http://paste.ubuntu.com/6124904/17:52
bjsniderGuest17032, you got ia32-libs and so forth on there?17:53
Guest17032bjsnider, I am not sure.  All I tried to do was apt-get install gnome-shell ubuntu-gnome-desktop and this happened.17:54
Guest17032the problem is if I try to install anything new it will fail because of that unmet dependency17:55
bjsniderGuest17032, try sudo apt-get install libgraphite2-3:i38617:56
Guest17032failed again17:58
Guest17032http://paste.ubuntu.com/6124928/17:58
bjsniderpurge libgraphite2-3:i38618:00
bjsniderthen retry18:00
bjsniderwhy have you got the i386 versions?18:01
Guest17032failed18:01
Guest17032http://paste.ubuntu.com/6124937/18:01
bjsniderpurge libgraphite2-318:01
bjsnider then retry18:01
Guest17032apparently I don't18:02
Guest17032ok18:02
Guest17032failed18:02
Guest17032http://paste.ubuntu.com/6124941/18:02
Guest17032purge libharfbuzz0a?18:03
bjsniderif i'm interpreting this right, the debian changelog from libgraphite2-3:i386 is different than libgraphite2-318:04
bjsniderwhich means you may have 2 different sources for that package with different changelogs even though the version number is the same18:05
bjsnideri still don't know why you have the i386 libs too18:05
Guest17032I don't either.  that is pretty strange to me18:06
bjsniderare you using wine or playing games or something?18:06
bjsniderskype maybe?18:06
Guest17032skype is installed, I don't use wine though18:06
bjsnideryou can't purge harfbuzz because it will cause a chain reaction that will take your whole operating system out18:07
bjsnidermaybe the i386 lib would be purgable though18:07
Guest17032I guess I won't be doing that then :D18:07
bjsniderlibharfbuzz0a:i38618:08
Guest17032should I try it?18:08
bjsnidertry purging that18:08
Guest17032failed18:08
Guest17032http://paste.ubuntu.com/6124966/18:08
bjsniderso then try purging the package blocking it18:09
bjsniderand keep going until you get to the top18:09
Guest17032only the i386 package?18:09
bjsniderthen you'll know what's causing all this18:09
bjsnideryes18:09
Guest17032ok18:09
Guest17032let me give it a try18:10
Guest17032brb18:10
bjsniderit's not going to be a lib18:10
bjsniderso keep goin gif it's called lib-somthing18:10
Guest17032drilled down a couple and got this18:12
Guest17032http://paste.ubuntu.com/6124979/18:12
bjsnideryou did try -f install right?18:12
Guest17032yeah18:13
bjsniderwell, keep going. try gstreamer this time18:13
Guest17032http://paste.ubuntu.com/6124989/18:13
Guest17032ok18:13
bjsniderrun this: apt-cache policy libgraphite2-3:i38618:17
bjsniderpastebin result18:17
Guest17032ok18:27
Guest17032sorry I had to go AFK18:27
Guest17032back18:27
Guest17032let me try that18:27
Guest17032http://paste.ubuntu.com/6125062/18:29
Guest17032there you gp18:29
Guest17032go even18:29
bjsnideryep, that's the problem18:29
bjsnidertwo versions packaged differently by two different ppas18:30
Guest17032bjsnider, any idea how to correct the issue?18:31
Guest17032at this point I would like to purge it and just run the install from ubuntu software center18:32
bjsniderGuest17032, remove the libreoffice ppa and try again18:33
bjsniderthe only difference int he two packages is that the changelog for the gnome3 ppa version is longer18:34
Guest17032ok I just unchecked it18:34
Guest17032let me try again18:34
bjsnideryou have to do apt-get update afterwards18:35
Guest17032just realized that.  :D doing that now18:35
Guest17032still erroring out18:35
Guest17032http://paste.ubuntu.com/6125093/18:36
Guest17032can I rm the changelog?18:36
bjsnideryes18:37
Guest17032that worked18:38
bjsnideri think this problemw ould be avoided with ppa-specific tags in the names, like ~libreofficeppa and ~gnome3ppa for example. then the two packages would be different18:39
Guest17032on the packages themselves?18:40
Guest17032I am not seeing gnome 3 in the software center18:40
bjsnideryour apt-cache policy says you have the gnome 3 ppa installed18:41
Guest17032I do18:41
Guest17032let me try to install again18:41
Guest17032whoa18:42
Guest17032nm18:42
Guest17032just did apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade and it looks like it is trying to pull down the gnome stuff now18:42
bjsnideryou had the amd64 lib installed. it carried the changelog shared by both arches, and then when you asked to have the multiarch lib installed, apt picked the other ppa for the multiarch lib18:42
bjsnideri don't understand why18:42
bjsniderthe version string is exactly the same18:43
bjsniderand it failed because the changelogs didn't match18:43
Guest17032it certainly is strange to me.  I had never seen anything like this18:43
Guest17032yeah18:43
bjsniderwell, i understand why the changelogs didn't match18:43
Guest17032arch differences, right?18:43
bjsniderno18:44
Guest17032oh.  why then? :D18:44
bjsniderthe libreoffice ppa obviously had that package added much later than the gnome 3 ppa18:44
Guest17032also, I really appreciate your help and you taking the time to explain these things to me.18:44
Guest17032oh18:44
bjsniderwhich ppa did you add first?18:45
bjsniderlibreoffice right?18:45
Guest17032yeah,  a long time ago18:45
bjsniderso it picked the gnome3 multiarch lib even though it had the option of picking the libreoffice version18:46
bjsniderand i don't know the logic behind that18:46
Guest17032perhaps the gnome version is newer?18:46
bjsnideryour policy output didn't say that18:46
bjsniderbut it didn have the gnome ppa on top18:46
Guest17032hmm18:47
bjsniderit did i mean18:47
bjsniderit's not just that the g in gnome is earlier in the alphabet than the l in libreoffice?18:47
bjsnideri mean the logic has to be more complicated than that18:47
Guest17032haha18:48
Guest17032brb18:57
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Guest59946bjsnider, so I just switched over to a gnome session and the screen was way way way magnified.  like 500% or more19:03
Guest59946brb again19:04
baphomet1bjsnider, back again.  any idea why it would be zoomed in like that?19:09
bjsniderbaphomet1, i checked with the experts19:09
bjsnider"it'll pick the one listed earliest in sources.list"19:09
bjsniderwe use the dir now, so it really was that g comes before l19:09
baphomet1that is pretty amazing19:09
Joe_Schmo2840Hey folks19:10
baphomet1bjsnider, so yeah.  now when I switch to a gnome session it is zoomed in at something like 500% automatically19:10
baphomet1any idea how to zoom out.19:10
Joe_Schmo2840Im having an issue getting vncserver to properly display my desktop when I connect19:10
bjsniderbaphomet1, no19:11
Joe_Schmo2840I get the background, but no toolbar or anything, using gdm, and Ive tried MANY diff xstartup configurations19:11
baphomet1bjsnider, thanks.  I am checking in to it.  I will write back once I have an answer19:11
bjsniderdidn't know gnome supported zooming19:12
baphomet1bjsnider, I got it working19:25
baphomet1for some reason the zoom thing was turned on by default19:25
baphomet1alt + super + 8 turned it off19:26
baphomet1thanks again!19:27
JimFromPAHi, want to log into U Gnome 13.10 beta 1 as Gnome Classic user, but do not know the password, anyone know it?...20:15
JimFromPAas a live user20:16
JDHankledefault user on ubuntu live cds is blank usually20:26
JDHankleI'm assuming ubuntu-gnome doesn't change this20:28
JimFromPAok, many thanks,will try20:33
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