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tintiany wiki that I can follow a build process?00:03
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TragynSo...is there a working alarm yet?00:50
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zeeheroWhoa, there are quite a few people here.02:18
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drachensunADB is getting the following error03:02
drachensuncannot bind 'tcp:5037'03:02
drachensunhas anyone seen that?03:02
drachensunMost of the fixes I read online talk about the port being occupied or the loopback being improperly setup, neither one seems likely to me since this all happens on the ubuntu touch armhf part03:03
drachensunwhich should be setup for it03:03
drachensunI think03:03
drachensunis it possible the Android side of the install is conflicting with it?03:04
drachensunI've tested and I cannot connect with a USB03:04
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compuspitalWill there be a port for the 2013 Nexus 7?05:34
mardyzsombi: hi! Is the CI still broken for ubuntu-ui-toolkit?05:40
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zsombimardy yes it is...05:56
dholbachgood morning07:11
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drachensunHello all, I'm stuck at ADB not starting with the error "cannot bind 'tcp:5037"  I'm checked that its run as root, loopback looks to be setup and I'm really not sure what try next or how to investigate further07:30
drachensunI've worked through the other bugs, /system, vendor and /data all looked to be mounted right and I can't see any errors coming from anything else07:31
popeydrachensun: if it can't bind to port then probably something (another zombied adb?) is running on that port07:35
drachensunpopey: I am dumping the output of netstat -a in my init script before it loads to see if anything is on port 5037 and nothing is shown07:37
drachensunpopey: is that a good way to check?07:37
Ganster41Hi guys. When I can find more detailed manuals for porting Ubuntu Touch? I completed all steps in porting guide, but get only black screen. May be I can read boot logs? ADB doesn't start...07:38
popeydrachensun: I'd just use "ps aux | grep adb" to see if adb is running07:39
drachensungangster41: I'm working through the same process, did you go over and following the manual install steps on the install page next?  took me a bit to realize that was the next step07:39
Ganster41I build and flash CM-part, then flashed sauncy touch image.07:40
drachensunpopey: its a real pain, I've got no access but it looks like the system is running, something other than adb seems to die as well because the kernel modules are never loaded07:40
drachensungangster41: Thats basically where I'm at, now I'm working through bugs, I have a serial console I can see the output on and even though I lack adb yet I can reboot to the recovery, and then use adb to mount and look at log files07:41
Ganster41Yep, with working adb it's more simple.07:42
Ganster41But it doesn't work for me(07:42
Ganster41I think it can't mount data partition, because my kernel hasn't /dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name, like on Desire Z. But changes from w-flo doesn't help too.07:45
drachensunpopey:  I have just verified there is no other adbd runnning07:52
drachensunwho should own /data and /vendor07:56
drachensunmy /data is showing system as the owner and group07:56
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drachensunok, I think we are getting close to the time this chat new get real active08:21
drachensunIf anyone has any thoughts how to debug the adb cannot bind problem I mentioned above, please let me know, I'll be checking back later as its 4am here and I'm making no progress and I'm totally out of ideas08:22
drachensunthanks08:23
iKillCypher>:(08:51
iKillCypherhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/touch-preview-images/+bug/1226614 ?????08:51
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1226614 in touch-preview-images "RIL/Radio Broken In Ported Xperia Z(Yuga)" [Undecided,New]08:51
iKillCypherit is strange how bugs reported isnt being look at? it is the top priority to nexus devices ?08:54
rhuddiecan anyone advise on how to do the following in ubuntu touch: Switch the OSK to the maliit keyboard plugin by default.09:03
rhuddieIs this already the default configuration?09:03
popeyrhuddie: yes, maliit is our keyboard09:05
popeyiKillCypher: you filed it 18 hours ago. Have you _seen_ how many other bugs there are?09:05
rhuddiepopey: thanks, just wanted to check.09:06
iKillCypherwell was just wondering09:12
iKillCypherpopey, did you know wifi is broken again?09:14
asacdbarth: we have very blurry picture of what you do with webapps09:15
asacseems we had mroe landings etc.09:15
asacdbarth: we will fix the collateral damage those created on desktop image now and then dont do anything until you tell me what is available and where09:16
didrocksasac: sil2100 and dbarth are discussing on #ubuntu-unity FYI09:16
asacdidrocks: ok09:16
dbarthasac: ?!09:18
iKillCypherdoes anyone know that wifi is broken again09:19
dbarthasac: you mean on the desktop?09:19
asacdbarth: you have a landing ask in09:19
asacwe landed all webapps09:19
gemawhat is the name of the contacts app, popey ?09:19
dbarthyes09:19
iKillCypher>:(09:19
asacso i assume its done09:19
* iKillCypher beats dbarth 09:19
asacdbarth: preinstalled click webapps (Twitter, FB, etc.)09:19
asacthats done?09:19
asacnow?09:19
popeygema: contacts ☻09:19
gemapopey: I have the sneaky feeling it can start calls on its own09:19
asac(with what landed in the archive)09:20
gemapopey: without the dialer09:20
dbarththey're in the store, but i need to check with sergiusens that it took all of them in the click_packages list09:20
dbarthand then it will be done09:20
ogragema, it would be odd if it couldnt09:20
gemaogra: I just made a call in the background, which I didn't have any control of09:20
asacdbarth: can we delist your stuff from the CI system then?09:20
gemaogra: the dialer never came up09:20
gemapopey: thanks09:20
asacit seems to come back and we use from app store09:20
didrocksasac: the ones for desktop don't come from any app store09:21
ogragema, thats surely a bug, but not with the app behavior ... but rather with proper locking of the phone09:21
gemaogra: ok09:21
ogragema, at least on android i dont need the dialer if i want to call a contact from the contacts list09:21
gemapopey: there doesn't seem to be a package called contacts09:21
ogranot sure how that is on iOS or windows09:21
dbarthasac: which stuff in particular is causing issues? ie you want me to remove?09:21
dbarthwebapps-demo?09:22
popeygema: contacts-app09:22
iKillCypherogra, popey dbarth do you guys know that wifi is broken :( ? how come there isnt any respond on this issue09:22
ograpopey, gema i thinbk it was renamed to address-book-app09:23
cjwatsondbarth: The collateral damage on the desktop image is http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/livefs-build-logs/saucy/ubuntu/20130918/livecd-amd64.out09:23
popeyiKillCypher: "wifi is broken" doesn't fully describe whatever issue you may be having09:23
cjwatson(scroll to the end)09:23
popeyiKillCypher: it works on my nexus 4 for example09:23
dbarthiKillCypher: nope, hang on09:23
ograiKillCypher, please check the daily image tests09:23
dbarthcjwatson: i've just been pinged about this one09:23
iKillCypherdaily image has been update since the 16 september09:23
Laneysil2100 was investigating that too09:23
dbarthcjwatson: we're prep'ing a revert to turn that into a suggest instead09:23
Laneythe webbrowser image breakage09:24
cjwatsondbarth: Yes, just giving you the log since there seemed some question here about what the problem was09:24
iKillCypherhttp://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/09:24
cjwatsondbarth: Cool09:24
ograiKillCypher, the webbrowser tests definitely pass, there is no issue with wlan on the official devices09:24
iKillCyphersaucy-preinstalled-touch-armhf.zip            16-Sep-2013 21:35  299M09:24
ograiKillCypher, http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/image/4322/09:24
iKillCypherwell I cant click it on a ported device.09:24
ograiKillCypher, reachable from http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/touch_ro/09:24
popey(last link in the /topic) ☻09:24
=== popey changed the topic of #ubuntu-touch to: Ubuntu Touch Support & Discussion | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch | Release notes https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes | Porting guide (advanced) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting | File bugs at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug | Under active development! | Nexus Status: http://bit.ly/18kIrhM | Dashboard: http://bit.ly/12AQV53
sil2100cjwatson: right, investigating and trying to resolve that09:25
ograpopey, while at it, probably add some "ubuntu-bug" note09:25
popeyits a bit full already09:25
popeyand nobody ever reads it anyway ☹09:25
ogratrue09:25
popeyI'll shrink all the urls09:25
iKillCypherwell so the top propriety is indeed nexus device09:26
dbarthcjwatson: on it right now, to get that off your way09:26
ograiKillCypher, the only one ...09:26
ograiKillCypher, we include patches from the community happily09:26
iKillCypherthe fact I haven seen the source till today..09:26
ograiKillCypher, but our work focuis is on the nexus devices to get a final image out in 4 weeks09:26
iKillCypherthe final date for the release is in 4 weeks?09:27
iKillCypherwasnt it telecasted as in 201409:27
ograiKillCypher, it is on launchpad ... or if you prefer in source packages on ports.ubuntu.com09:27
ograthe first release of the phone image will happen along with ubuntu 13.1009:27
popeyiKillCypher: 1.0 is in sync with 13.10 desktop/server release09:27
iKillCypheruh interesting.. so afterwhich ? other devices ?09:28
gemapopey: it was address-book-app, it seems09:28
iKillCypherwell I cant really understand the source of ubuntu cause it seems like very different from android09:29
ograwell, if you had used ubuntu before it would be easy for you, it doesnt differ much from desktop09:30
iKillCypherI have use ubuntu before Im talking about the coding source09:30
ograyou can get all the source using apt-get like on every other ubuntu installation09:30
iKillCypherwell in cyanogenmod there is github where you can see source code09:31
ograand alternativaly you can use the branches on launchpad if you dont like to use packages09:31
ograon ubuntu there is http://code.launchpad.net/09:32
ogranot different apart from the fact that ubuntu source is about 1000x bigger than CMs09:32
ograiKillCypher, anyway, if you have a fix for your wifi issue, file a bug and attach it, we'll happily include fixes for ports ...09:33
iKillCypheris this the source code for camera app ?09:34
iKillCypherhttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/camera-app/trunk/files09:34
ogralooks like09:35
iKillCypherI think my biggest issue is getting Radio working09:35
ograright, and thats likely also the most coimplicated one09:36
iKillCypherhumm you looks like there isnt any Java code o.o09:37
popeyCorrect, Ubuntu Touch isn't Android09:37
popeyAnd isn't written in Java09:37
iKillCypherso it is written from scratch?09:37
popeyIn QML and C++ mostly, yes.09:37
iKillCypheroh wow o.o I thought it was based on Android09:37
cjwatsoniKillCypher: A small amount of hardware-specific code is derived from Android, but the application-level code isn't09:49
cjwatson(Small in relative terms)09:49
popeyogra: my clock has disappeared again this morning09:53
ograpopey, bah09:53
ograi just upgraded to 54 ... still has it09:53
dbarthcjwatson: we've finished auditing the code to confirm we can move to a 'suggests' safely10:00
dbarthcjwatson: we should have a new mp and package in a few minutes now10:00
psivaaogra: i have a 52 devel version on maguro and trying to update it to 54 but i keep getting 'No software updates available'10:03
psivaaam i missing something?10:03
ograpsivaa, i just updated a mako from 52 to 5410:04
psivaaby going through systemsettings -> updates ?10:04
ograyes10:04
* ogra goes to his maguro to check 10:04
psivaathanks ogasawara10:04
psivaaoops thanks ogra :)10:05
ograit offers me 54 on the maguro too10:06
psivaaogra: ack, let me see what's wrong in my install10:07
ograi'm currently on 53 though, but that shouldnt make much of a difference10:07
psivaaogra: on the command line http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/saucy-security/universe/binary-armhf/Packages gives me 40410:07
ograsounds like an issue with your network then10:08
ogradid you have that device on 3G inbetween ?10:08
ograiirc there was an issue where you can end up with two default routes when NM switches back and forth between 3G and wlan10:09
psivaaogra: no, i dont have a sim. only wifi10:09
ogra(check with "route -n")10:09
ograah, k10:09
ograoh, wiat, did you make the image writable ? i dont think it will offer you upgrades then (since if anything on the fs changed it will predictably break)10:10
ograah, no, that cant be it10:11
ogramy maguro is in writable mode here10:11
psivaayea i would assume for over the air update we wont need it10:11
ograwell, it s known that OTA doesnt work if you made the iage writable ...10:12
ograi thought they had put a check for this in ... apparently not10:12
ograanyway, the 404 kind of indicates network issues10:12
ogracan you open a website ?10:12
psivaaogra: yes i can10:13
mhr3JamesTait, ping?10:13
ograstrange10:13
JamesTaitmhr3, hi!10:13
psivaayea, i get Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ppa.launchpad.net_ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers_daily_ubuntu_dists_saucy_main_binary-armhf_Packages -10:13
psivaaopen (30: Read-only file system) when i apt-get update10:13
ograapt-get update works fine for me10:13
ograoh10:14
ogralol10:14
ograwell, thats different from 40410:14
mhr3JamesTait, hey, remember how we wanted to turn the X-Ubuntu-Touch from a field into a category for the .desktop files?10:14
ograthats a feature actually :)10:14
psivaabut later some links give 40410:14
mhr3JamesTait, it's been a while, and it's still the same10:14
ograyeah, thats not good, but that apt-get update doesnt work on reqadonly images is indeed expected10:14
jibelpsivaa, its Packages.gz or Packages.bz2 not Packages10:15
psivaajibel: yea that's what i thought but apt-get update gives many lines like W: Failed to fetch http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/saucy-updates/restricted/binary-armhf/Packages  404  Not Found10:15
psivaaorga ack10:16
JamesTaitmhr3, I do remember that, yes. :)10:16
psivaalet me make it writeable to see if that makes any difference10:16
JamesTaitmhr3, it's on my radar - I've been working on u1 servers since I came back off holiday, but I'm almost wrapped up with that now and will be turning my eye to "convergance" in Click Package Index next.10:17
ograpsivaa, shouldnt10:18
mhr3JamesTait, not sure if there's a bug open about this, should i create one?10:18
ograpsivaa, see what: "system-image-cli -v" spits out10:18
JamesTaitmhr3, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-1308-app-story-hardware-requirements is the blueprint I've been pointed at, but a bug would be welcome, yes.10:18
mhr3JamesTait, what project should it be targeted at?10:19
JamesTaitmhr https://launchpad.net/click-package-index10:20
ograpsivaa, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6123295/10:21
ograthats how it should look like10:21
psivaaogra: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6123296/10:21
ograpsivaa, you are on the devel (stable) channel10:22
ograinstead of devel-proposed10:22
ograthere are no new upgrades for the sable channel :)10:22
ograpsivaa, system-image-cli -v -c devel-proposed10:23
ogratry that one10:23
ograthat wil switch you over to proposed10:23
psivaaohhhh ok. sorry about that :).10:23
psivaaogra: thanks10:23
ogra:)10:23
popeyogra: do you know which package provides the welcome infographic?10:28
popeyif i repeatedly tap the infographic nothing bubbles up the cpu chart other than unity810:30
ograi think it is a unity8 bit yeah10:30
ograafaik we dont have a specific package for it10:31
popeykk, ta10:31
mhr3JamesTait, https://bugs.launchpad.net/click-package-index/+bug/122705810:32
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1227058 in Click Package Index "Turn X-Ubuntu-Touch in generated .desktop file from a separate key to a Category" [Undecided,New]10:33
JamesTaitThanks, mhr3. :)10:33
mhr3JamesTait, also, would you happen to know how is the Icon key generated?10:33
JamesTaitmhr3, I'll have to check, I think there's been some change in that department.  IIRC we used to have icon_url and icon_urls, and the former has now been deprecated, so icon_url should now be equivalent to icon_urls['64'].10:36
JamesTaitmhr3, that's not very clear, actually. Let me try that again. :)10:37
mhr3JamesTait, i get it :)10:37
mhr3JamesTait, nonetheless, we see that some .desktop files have Icon=qmlscene which doesn't exist and will show up as nasty empty rectangle in the dash10:37
JamesTaitmhr3, OK. :)  Changes in Software Centre filtered through to Click Package Index, basically.10:38
mhr3JamesTait, wondering if something could be done about that10:38
asacogra: popey: so is our amazing 54 image a good one?10:39
asacgo ahead then10:39
asacsomeone must be lying with maguro only having 6 fails :)10:39
popeyhmm, i am offered no updates on my nexus 410:40
popeyoh, wrong phone10:40
asacpopey: its a proposed image10:40
asacnot a daily10:40
asaca ok10:40
JamesTaitmhr3, ah, I was wondering what caused those empty icons on my phone!  I'll need to get back up to speed with the end-to-end to understand where that's coming from.10:40
asacpopey: we want to get 54:20130917.1:20130917 out basically10:40
* ogra cant install saucy bacon on 54 10:40
ograthats surely a blocker, no ?10:40
ogra:P10:40
popeyogra: you need libqt5script510:40
ograah10:40
asacogra: i feel not... at least i dont know we wanted to install jono on it :)10:41
mhr3JamesTait, qmlscene is one reason, another is usage of themed icons which are not installed on the phone10:41
* asac looks in PRD10:41
* popey pokes ogra with https://bugs.launchpad.net/qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu/+bug/122574910:41
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1225749 in ubuntu-touch-meta (Ubuntu) "libqt5script5 should be in the base image" [Undecided,Confirmed]10:41
mhr3JamesTait, for example i see "Icon=animal-farm"10:41
ograasac, but it ships tasty ideas10:41
ograasac, oh, see above bug10:41
popeyit's a _really_ awesome app10:41
popeyphablet-flash ubuntu-system --channel=daily-proposed10:41
popeythat should get 54 shouldn't it?10:41
mhr3JamesTait, so i'm wondering what should be done about those10:42
ograpopey, yeah10:42
popeyta10:42
popeyi need to put a big sticker on these phones so i can tell them apart10:42
ograpopey, i guess it would speed up inclusion of the package if you could run the autopilot tests with it installed to see we have no test regressions .. (just note on the bug that there were no regressions and i think we can fast=path it into the next image ... if asac agrees)10:44
JamesTaitmhr3, this really needs someone from the client side to comment.  Once I understand what the dash and click package installer need, I can make the changes on the server side.10:44
cjwatsonJamesTait: click itself doesn't care10:45
asacogra: popey: for direct uploads that gives you a prime landing slot - e.g. now :)10:45
ograasac, its a seed change10:45
popeyogra: which ap tests?10:45
cjwatsonseed change and direct metapackage upload10:45
asacogra: right. thats the approach for seed changes... just work it in the landing asks/plan10:45
ograand adds a package nothing else uses10:45
asacso we know what is changing as well10:45
ograso it should be safe once popey can confirm10:46
asacright10:46
ograyeah, i'll add it10:46
popeysweet10:46
ograpopey, i woould guess run the unity8 tests andd pick some random app ones additionally10:46
popeyk10:46
asacyeah. sounds like it might have side effects on sdk10:47
* ogra wonders whats up with his kbd ... seems the springs get badd or sommething10:47
asacso having some good app tests run is good10:47
popeyhm, would that need to be done on a cdimage-touch image, or can I use ubuntu-system and then make it writable to install the ap test stuff?10:47
ograasac, the sdk already ships that dep10:47
ograin fact the seed change solves a discrepancy here10:47
ograpopey, i do the latter here10:48
popeyok10:48
popeyogra: do you want before and after or just after install of the package?10:48
ograjust dont forget to re-flash later in case you want to do other tests ... to get a clean env again10:48
popeyya10:48
ograi usually do before and after ... though theoretically thats obverkill ... the dashboard has the "before" already10:49
popeyyeah10:51
davmor2ogra: where is your tail dude :)   the update to phablet tools is that so fresh flashes from android work?10:51
asacogra: what does it mean "ships that dep"?10:51
ograasac, see the bug ... the qtcreator plugin has the dep on the requested package ... it is just not in the image10:52
asacok so its something new10:52
popeyi.e. desktop users get the package when they install the sdk10:52
ograasac, so people can create apps that work in the sdk but not in the real workld10:52
asacright. test it with unity8 and few apps10:52
asacand then go10:52
popeywhich is what led to this bug in the first place10:52
popeyright10:52
janimorsalveti, do you know which process would have 'file system sca' as its /proc/$PID/comm ? It is in a dmesg log that cannot be locally reproduced?10:56
janimoI guess fsck10:56
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ograjanimo, he is on vacation ... until monday10:57
janimoogra, ok, I'll accept your answer to the question then :)10:58
ograhaha10:58
ograwell, you can wait and hope, he said he would still check mail and IRC occasionally10:59
ograwow10:59
ogracommunity lockscreen !10:59
davmor2ogra: what?10:59
ogradavmor2, see the ML11:00
davmor2ogra: ah hadn't got that far through my mail stack yet :)11:00
davmor2ogra: did you know if the new phablet-tools has the fix for fresh flashes?  If so I'll drop android back on and give it a whirl11:03
ograyeah, it does11:03
popeymy neighbours are delightful with their wifi access point names.. http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-18-120322.png11:03
davmor2ogra: great I'll give it a go then and make sure it works :)11:03
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ograpopey, lol11:04
ogranice neighborhood11:04
davmor2popey: and they think Wolverhampton is rough, I just get SKY31983 :D11:05
popey54 seems good to me ogra11:06
asacogra: ^^11:07
asacpopey: will you send the mail to avengers after? do you know jibels nice changes view?11:07
asacpopey: maybe you can refer to the right entry there in that mail?11:07
asace.g. what changed between the last and this build?11:08
popeyyup yup11:09
popeyhttp://people.canonical.com/~j-lallement/touch/changes/current/11:09
ograasac, popey, maguro looks fine too11:10
asacpopey: you might even try to give an executive summary of what goodies made it :)11:10
ograasac, jono still didnt add me to avengers, can you do the mailing again ?11:10
asachehe11:10
ograor popey ^^^11:10
ogra(or any other member)11:10
ograoh, asac was faster11:11
* ogra didnt read the last few lines11:11
asachehe11:11
asacthanks ogra11:11
ograasac, running mark-current for cdimage then ...11:11
asacwill remember that you remember :)11:11
ogra(and afterwards the system image copy)11:11
ograheh11:11
popeyyes11:12
asacogra: i think a few things landed - like apps and we would like a checkpoint image while we tests todays big landings11:12
ograyep11:12
asacogra: wonder if you backedout the touch-session yet?11:12
asacotherwise we probably shouldnt spin11:12
ograasac, it was never in11:13
ograwe tested against trunk11:13
asacoh good11:13
asacthen, i dont think we are currently publishing anything11:13
ograjust had to roll back the tree11:13
asacMirv: sil2100: didrocks: did we copy something to proposed that we should wait for?11:13
asacoh the scopes11:13
asacogra: we should wait for the scopes to come through proposed11:13
asacnot sure where they are now11:14
asaci think it was 30 minutes ago whenw e copied11:14
didrockshome-scope and libunity are in proposed11:14
popeyogra: when will http://people.canonical.com/~j-lallement/touch/changes/current/ update?11:14
ograpropagation speed usually depends on their reverse deps ... if there are many it takes longer11:14
* ogra fights with the system-image lock11:15
asacjibel: ^^ how often does your changes view update?11:15
asacpopey: jibel is your man :)11:16
ograwow, that was fast11:16
asacogra: do you know what failed in mako that was fixed in maguro?11:16
asacmaybe mako and maguro are out of sync on something?11:17
ograpopey, , 54 released, go ahead and mail :)11:17
popeybut but but.. i want to include the lovely stuff from jibel's page11:17
asaclol11:17
asacyeah11:17
asaclets wait for that11:17
asacpopey: we might be able to guess the URL though :)11:17
ograasac, filemanager ...11:17
ograi doubt thats device specific in any way11:17
asacpopey: i would bet that its http://people.canonical.com/~j-lallement/touch/changes/current/20130917.1.html11:18
asacso lets see what happens :)11:18
popeyi was expecting 1811:18
asacogra: really odd... it always failed11:18
* popey decides not to bet against asac 11:18
asacand now its fixed in maguro11:18
cjwatsonogra: reverse deps> that's a bit oversimplified :)  only reverse deps with autopkgtests might slow things down (assuming that the whole assembly is installable), and even then I think the autopkgtest runners are usually overprovisioned11:18
asacpopey: well, better wait :)11:19
cjwatsonwhat will help is when we manage to move proposed-migration onto its new host11:19
sergiusensmorning11:20
ograsergiusens, thanks for the session testing ... i backed it out again11:20
davmor2ogra: flash seems to be working so far, fingers crossed it goes all the way :)11:20
asacballoons: can you confirm that you tried to fix filemanager tests? they seem to pass on maguro :-P11:21
asacballoons: thanks!!11:21
sergiusensogra, no problem11:23
sergiusensogra, I guess it just needs another twist to get it going properly11:23
ograyeah, i'll leave that to the specialist :)11:24
asacpopey: i guess we can wait another few minutes and then just send the mail and cite that URL as the one we believe might have the content ... or skip it this time11:24
ograi also assume its just a different .desktop file we need11:24
popeyasac: ya11:28
popeyasac: http://people.canonical.com/~j-lallement/touch/changes/20130917.1.html is that it?11:31
asacpopey: matches ogras list11:32
asacyes11:32
asacpopey: did we announce the .3 build at all?11:32
asacif not you should include that as well11:32
asacpopey: http://people.canonical.com/~j-lallement/touch/changes/current/20130916.3.html -> that one11:33
popeyok11:33
asacpopey: was that build announced?11:33
asacpopey: which build did we announce last :)?11:33
popeyasac: 5211:34
popey16.311:34
asacright11:34
asacso we announced those11:34
asacjust do the 17.1 link then11:34
Ganster41How to get boot log, if adb doesn't start on device?11:34
asacsil2100: is scopes through proposed?11:35
ograGanster41, make sure to keep it powered and try to get into recovery, there you should find /proc/last_kmsg11:35
asacsil2100: depends on libunity11:36
asacunity-scope-home (6.8.2+13.10.20130903.1-0ubuntu1 to 6.8.2+13.10.20130918.1-0ubuntu1)11:36
asacDepends: unity-scope-home libunity (not considered)11:36
Ganster41I cant reboot device without adb, except removing battery or holding power button.11:37
popeyasac: sent11:37
ograGanster41, holding power should be fine11:37
asacrock11:37
ograGanster41, the ram console only gets flushed if the device is powerless ... else you should always be able to see the log for the last boot in that file11:38
Ganster41I know it. Thats why I ask)11:38
ograas long as the reboot doesnt cut the power hard (like removing the battery) you should be fine11:38
cjwatsonasac: libunity was awaiting autopkgtests, but I believe they've finished, so next run should improve11:39
asacnice11:39
* asac tries to replay that on the webpages to better understand11:39
asacok that part is simple11:39
davmor2popey: open the music browser, now open the settings window does it fit on the display for the n4?11:39
asacshould have thought of searching11:39
cjwatsonIf you follow the link to libunity you'll see it waiting for autopkgtests11:39
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asacoutput.txt is where my brain gets a hickup11:40
cjwatsonIt is rather harder to read, but hopefully not necessary here11:40
ogracjwatson, while i'm all in favour of using proposed blocking vs CI blocking for gating the packages, what happens with packages that two teams have the authority over ?11:40
cjwatsonogra: They get to talk to each other11:40
davmor2popey: http://ubuntuone.com/0add7kDxqp3ibq3fKbwzOV11:40
ograwould we always have to wrangle over ubuntu-minimal for example11:41
cjwatsonogra: (In practice I'm not too worried)11:41
ograah, thats what i thought ...11:41
popeydavmor2: ah yes, I saw that yesterday, needs a bug11:41
ograright, the overlapping set is minor11:41
ograwas just a curiosity question11:41
cjwatsonogra: I could implement some kind of multiple-sign-off-required thing, but I'd prefer not to put effort into that unless it actually appears to be a problem11:41
ograyeah11:41
davmor2popey: also was the audio backend put in place that meant the music would play if the player didn't have focus for me it last maybe 2 seconds after then stops11:43
popeydavmor2: its being worked on11:44
ograwe have a full new shiny polished multimedia stack waiting :)11:45
ograshould be ready by end of the week11:45
davmor2popey, ogra: oh nice,  thanks, I didn't want to file a bug if it was in the works :)11:45
rickspencer3I just upgraded again11:46
popeyyeah, am on a hangout with the devs now11:46
popeyrickspencer3: to 54?11:46
rickspencer3to everyone involved in image based updates ...11:46
rickspencer3you are AMAZING11:46
rickspencer3popey, to whatever is fresh just now ;)11:46
rickspencer3I just use the updater in the settings11:46
popeyexcellent.11:46
rickspencer3image based updates are soooo cool11:46
popeyjust as it should be11:46
rickspencer3I can't believe we didn't do this years ago11:47
rickspencer31. click packages11:47
sil2100asac: libunity is in -proposed still11:47
rickspencer32. image based updates11:47
ograwe could use one or two cups of progress bar though :)11:47
rickspencer3ogra, well, I just need a little spinner since my internet is fast ;)11:47
sil2100asac: libunity is running autopkgtest for deja-dup and shotwell11:47
davmor2ogra: hell yes but it's getting there :)11:47
cjwatsonsil2100: see above, I already analysed :)11:47
rickspencer3ogra, thanks for your simplified change log, btw11:48
sil2100cjwatson: thanks :D Didn't notice as I just saw that ping on me11:48
ograrickspencer3, welcome .... we also have an unsimplified version now11:48
ograhttp://people.canonical.com/~j-lallement/touch/changes/current/20130916.3.html11:48
sil2100Colin is always faster than light with such things ;p Got to get used to that!11:48
ograin beautiful 90's webdesign :)11:48
rickspencer3ogra, popey don't know if you guys are Archer fans, but whenever I use click packages or image based updates, this goes through my head: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fTQvnhNVgxQ11:50
davmor2rickspencer3: I love the mtp (ot mpt I can never remember which way round it is) work too11:50
ograhaha11:50
ogradavmor2, the one that doesnt complain about pings is the protocol :)11:51
rickspencer3ogra, holy sh*t!11:51
popeyhaha rickspencer311:51
rickspencer3I just plugged my nexus 4 into my desktop11:51
davmor2ogra: yeah I hit an issue initial with yesterday but that seems to be gone in todays11:51
rickspencer3the Nexus 4 icon appeared *immediately*11:52
davmor2rickspencer3: I figured you hadn't yet11:52
davmor2no seb11:52
rickspencer3and the folder in there are very sensible11:53
popeyrickspencer3: it's faster than mtp on android11:53
popeyand more reliable11:53
ogradavmor2, popey, oh, btw, i would appreciate if someone could test the fix from bug 1226825 (just replace the upstart job with the attached one)11:53
ubot5bug 1226825 in mtp (Ubuntu) "rebooting phone makes nautilus spill mtp errors " [High,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122682511:53
davmor2popey: +111:53
ograi'd like to land that today11:53
* rickspencer3 drags Pink Floyd's Meddle to phone11:54
* mpt grumbles11:54
* rickspencer3 dates self11:54
ogradavmor2, ^^^ see, thats not the protocol11:54
popeyogra: my phones are currently occipied, davmor2 can you please?11:54
ograno hurry ...11:54
davmor2but mpt you're awesome too11:54
ograi know it work, just want some confirmation11:54
ogra*works11:55
davmor2ogra: that's in the image I don't need to install anything?11:55
ogradavmor2, you need to make it writable to replace the upstart job, but nothing more, no11:56
davmor2ogra: the nautilus window doesn't close or revert to home on reboot11:56
ograthats a nautilus issue, i'm more concerned about the mtp error popups you get11:56
ogranote they sometimes hide behind other windows11:56
ogra(and dont show up as windows in the launcher)11:57
davmor2ogra: right check the bug now, then I'll show desktop and test it11:57
ograi usually get three on shutdown of the phone11:58
davmor2ogra: what's the magic touch file /userdata/.writable-image?11:59
ograyeah11:59
davmor2thanks11:59
ograand reboot indeed11:59
davmor2yeap I remembered the reboot just the name of the file I wasn't 100% on :)12:00
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mhr3ogra, if i try to get some music on the phone via rhythmbox it says that it doesn't support the codec, ideas what am i missing?12:03
mhr3and it doesn't at all via nautilus12:03
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jibelasac, popey changelog for pending are updated when there is a new image and a new changes file, and current is done manually when I notice a new image in current/12:08
jibelupdated btw12:08
popeythanks jibel12:08
plarssarnold: maguro seems to complain a lot about temperature still: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6123644/12:15
davmor2ogra: no errors, however now the Google logo with the unlocked padlock is displayed for a while, while it waits to enable the mtp device on reboot12:15
plarssarnold: any ideas?12:15
ogradavmor2, longer than usual ?12:15
ogralike ... more than 2min ?12:15
asacjibel: ic. thx12:16
davmor2ogra: yeap, it goes as soon as the mtp is enabled but it hangs for 2-4 seconds maybe longer than normal12:16
ograyou can make out 2-4 seconds in a 2 min process ?12:16
ograheh12:17
davmor2ogra: yes12:17
ogra(plus 1min for black screen(12:17
davmor2ogra: the black screen is there for the normal amount of time, it's only because the google logo is there that you notice it :)12:17
plarsoSoMoN: I'm seeing a lot of tracebacks from socket.py even though the web browser test passes: http://10.97.0.1:8080/job/saucy-touch_ro-maguro-smoke-webbrowser-app-autopilot/79/consoleFull12:18
plarsoSoMoN: those are, perhaps, from a python httpserver that isn't getting killed nicely?12:19
rickspencer3cjwatson, would it be terribly naive of me to create a click package, copy it to my phone, adb shell into the phone, and then use click install nameofpackage.click ?12:19
rickspencer3to test an app?12:19
davmor2ogra: let me revert the change and I'll get more specific :)12:20
ograyeah, i didnt see any difference here12:20
ograthe google logo is up for 2min for me as usual12:20
cjwatsonrickspencer3: Use "pkcon install-local nameofpackage.click" instead (as the phablet user)12:21
rickspencer3thanks cjwatson :)12:21
cjwatsonrickspencer3: It's possible to use click install directly but the exact arguments are fiddly12:21
cjwatsonSo I don't usually bother12:21
oSoMoNplars: if you’re talking about "[Errno 32] Broken pipe", that’s a know and harmless bug in python itself12:21
rickspencer3ok12:21
oSoMoNplars: nothing we can do about it (expect migrate to python3, as I believe it’s been fixed there), but it doesn’t affect the test results at all12:22
plarsoSoMoN: ok, figured it was something like that. Just wanted to check12:22
davmor2ogra: 20 seconds for mtp to appear on desktop for old version, 23 second for new.  The Google logo is still visible for a couple of seconds on the old one when the mtp notification hits the desktop, the Google logo goes as soon as the mtp shows on the new one.12:28
ogradavmor2, yeah,  the old version uses horridly broken hardcoded settings on startup ... the new one parses them properly, that takes a moment12:30
ograi wouldnt have throught its more than 1sec though12:30
ogradavmor2, but you dont see any errors on reboot on  the desktop with it ?12:31
davmor2ogra: Nope no errors,  Old one had 3-4 errors for me when I was in adb shell,  repeated for the new one no errors.12:32
ograawesome12:32
plarssarnold: to put it in context, the maguros seem to be shutting down in the lab sometimes, but just the maguros. Nothing special about placement of them that would seem to explain the extra heat.12:32
plarssarnold: istr you mentioning a recent change that forced shutdown if the temp got too high12:33
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davmor2ogra: commented on bug12:35
* ogra hugs davmor2 12:35
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gatoxsil2100, hi, someone mentioned this to me, that it seems to be missing for the clickmanager-plugin and click-update-manager project: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DailyRelease/InlinePackaging   could you please confirm if is that right, so i can start working on tha tnow?12:41
sil2100gatox: inline packaging is ready, it only needs a bootstrapping commit and enabling in daily-release, but we need the packages preNEWed first12:43
sil2100gatox: but 90% of the things from that page are ready12:44
gatoxsil2100, awesome! is there anything i can do from that page to help you or should i wait?12:44
gatox(trying to land this today :P)12:44
sil2100gatox: nothing, sadly ;) I'll have 2 merges you'll have to approve in a moment12:45
gatoxsil2100, great!! let me know and i'll review it12:45
jdstrandmhall119: hey, I was told that you knew something about qtdeclarative5-qtsensors-plugin. I'm trying to use 'import QtSensors 5.0' ... TiltSensor {} and it doesn't work. I tried /usr/lib/.../qt5/examples/qtsensors/qmlqtsensors/qmlqtsensors and it also doesn't work12:46
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jdstrandmhall119: this was on a nexus 412:46
OrokuSakiAnyone know how I can switch from release to proposed packages with apt? bored12:48
ograOrokuSaki, you dont want that12:49
OrokuSakiokay.. =)12:49
OrokuSakiI filed a bug with LXC today.. hope its enough info12:49
jdstrandmhall119: I think I'll file a bug12:49
ograproposed in devel is different from proposed in stable12:49
OrokuSakioh12:49
rickspencer3does anyone know where I can find the list of permissions I can request for a click app?12:50
ograyou never want it enabled in devel12:50
rickspencer3jdstrand, beuno, ^ ?12:50
GuidoPallemanshramrach: you just replied on one of my mails in the mailing list - what do you mean by "There should be some way to add more arcs and a way to say you are done."12:50
jdstrandrickspencer3: the new SDK bits will make that easy. for now use:12:50
jdstrandrickspencer3: $ aa-easyprof --list-policy-groups --policy-vendor=ubuntu --policy-version=1.012:51
ograheh, vendor ...12:51
OrokuSakiDoes this look okay ogra? =) https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/lxc/+bug/122709212:51
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1227092 in lxc (Ubuntu) "LXC Container will not start" [Undecided,New]12:51
OrokuSakinever filed a bug before12:51
jdstrandrickspencer3: but don't use the *_files* permissions (they are reserved-- that should also be in the upcoming SDK bits)12:51
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rickspencer3jdstrand, nothing for contacts?12:52
jdstrandrickspencer3: also note, all of those policy groups aren;t defined yet. I've been mapping APIs to policy groups and defining them, and will have that uploaded soon12:52
ograOrokuSaki, the bug looks fine ... i wonder if its really lxc related though12:53
jdstrandrickspencer3: not specifically. I thought contacts was via the content-hub. tvoss__ ?12:53
ograOrokuSaki, ugh12:53
OrokuSakiNo idea...12:53
OrokuSakiif I downgrade lxc, then it works..12:53
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ograOrokuSaki, remove /var/lib/lxc/android/rootfs/system from your fstab !12:53
OrokuSakibut it never creates the mountpoint12:53
alecugusch: ping12:53
OrokuSakiokay okay12:54
tvoss__jdstrand, nope, contacts go via the qtpim infrastructure, too12:54
OrokuSakihere we go.. upgrade lxc without that in my fstab12:54
sil2100gatox: btw. ;)12:54
ograthe lxc startup script creates that12:54
alecugusch: I've got a weird issue using the camera on mako: https://bugs.launchpad.net/camera-app/+bug/122662512:54
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1226625 in camera-app "Color is shifted 16px to the left" [Undecided,New]12:54
gatoxsil2100, yes?12:54
ograyou break it with that mount from fstab12:54
sil2100gatox: could you make some basic autopilot tests for click-update-manager?12:54
sil2100gatox: I can help getting it packaged and ran on daily-release12:55
jdstrandtvoss__: so we need another policy group for pim?12:55
gatoxsil2100, ack... i'll start looking into it now12:55
OrokuSaki@ogra ... booting12:55
jdstrandtvoss__: also, if I start playing with qtpim, will it use an out of process picker?12:56
jdstrandtvoss__: (eg, like the gallery)12:56
ograOrokuSaki, iff it breaks now, fix the fstab in your android initrd ... dont try to have the mount handled from the ubuntu side12:56
mardytvoss__: hi! Jussi told me that you had some reasons to request the a build system change (from qmake to cmake) on the System Settings panel; something about cross compilation12:56
OrokuSakiyeah my system is not mounted now... so fix the fstab in my android side?12:57
ograyeah12:57
mardytvoss__: what is wrong with qmake?12:57
bfillersil2100: did you see my email about ubuntu-keyboard? can we get that landed today12:57
ograOrokuSaki, or add an hook to /var/lib/lxc/android/pre-start.d12:58
tinti_hi. I have got my kernel running on ubuntu-touch in nexus 7 :)12:58
tinti_But ... no keyboard or mouse. Any ideas12:58
ograOrokuSaki, that should run after the container target gets wiped so wouldnt cause that error12:58
sil2100bfiller: hi! I brought that up on the meeting today, not sure if there was a final decision - I will try to12:58
OrokuSakithe fstab in the root of the lxc container that I can create? in rootfs? or in var/lib/lxc/android/fstab?12:59
OrokuSakihally was mentioning that to me12:59
tvoss__jdstrand, ack, one of the reasons is that we wanted to be able to mediate on that level12:59
OrokuSaki@ogra oh yeah12:59
bfillersil2100: autopilot is broken for it, the tests need to be reworked completely. but not related to this MR12:59
ograOrokuSaki, hmm, that might be an lxc feature12:59
tvoss__mardy, we agreed on unifying our buildsystems (and I don't want to restart that discussion) for our projects to easily support use-cases like cross-compilation13:00
guschalecu: that's weired - I'll have a look, but I don't have a mako to reproduce that13:00
ogranot sure if it would just pull the fstab from there without extra scripting13:00
mardytvoss__: OK, I just hope that my projects won't be touched :-)13:00
sil2100bfiller: right, I'll just try making sure if all is working ok and then try releasing - would be happy if those AP tests would work for the next version13:00
OrokuSaki@ogra my vold.fsta does not list system or vendor mounts.. is that a problem?13:00
sil2100:)13:00
OrokuSakivold.fstab13:00
bfillersil2100: me too, need helf from veebers13:00
bfillerhelp13:00
thomibfiller: what's the issue?13:01
ograOrokuSaki, vold should be disabled ... dont you have a $device.fstab ?13:01
OrokuSakiin /system or in /var/lib/lxc/android/rootfs? I get confused.. I think this will be a no answer though13:01
jdstrandtvoss__: what is the status of it if I start using qtpim? does it all 'just work' now in the archive?13:02
tvoss__jdstrand, best to check with bfiller13:02
alecugusch: weird thing about the 16px shifting is that it did not happen at once, but after I took some photos that day.13:02
bfillerthomi: tmoenicke reworked the ubuntu-keyboard to use qml layout for all the keyboards and the AP tests need to change as a result. veebers said he'd take a look but they all fail currently13:02
jdstrandbfiller: hi! :)13:02
ograasac, http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/20130918.changes13:02
OrokuSaki@ogra nope, no tenderloin.fstab13:02
tvoss__mardy, for ubuntu-system-settings, jussi already proposed a branch for cmake and it's mostly good to land as I understand it13:02
OrokuSakiI suppose I should create that in my android source and recompile?13:03
bfillerthomi: and there are some tests that test functionality that hasn't landed (auto capitialization) so those should be remove/skipped for now13:03
OrokuSakiI remember mako had that file, but my cyanogenmod sources didn't...13:03
jdstrandbfiller: what is the status of the contacts service? if I use qtpim, will I get an out of process picker and it all just works now (ie, in the archive)?13:03
ograOrokuSaki, well, you kind of need to make sure something uses it :)13:03
mardytvoss__: yes, I'm reviewing it, there are minor things but otherwise it's OK13:03
thomibfiller: I see. that's an interesting one I guess. On the one hand we want to make it clear that the implementation is incomplete, OTOH we don't want to block the release on that13:03
ograi doubt just dumping it in place will work13:04
tvoss__mardy, ack13:04
thomibfiller: I thought there might be a technical issue I could help with, since I'm still in a sensible timezone13:04
OrokuSakiI did create the fstab.tenderloin file in the device/hp/tenderloin folder.. but that is about it13:04
bfillerthomi: it's a feature that hasn't been implemented yet, so probably shouldn't test until it's implemented13:04
mardytvoss__: I'm just worried if the plan is to switch all projects, which would really make me unhappy :-)13:04
jdstrandbfiller: ie, via qtdeclarative5-qtcontacts-plugin. what about qtdeclarative5-qtorganizer-plugin?13:04
OrokuSakiso.. you have a device.fstab file located... somewhere in your filesystem?13:04
bfillerjdstrand: there is an in-process picker that will use dbus to communicate with the contacts service13:04
OrokuSaki@ogra where is it at?13:04
tvoss__mardy, not sure what to respond now :) want beers?13:05
thomibfiller: well, at least now when it is implemented the developers won't have any problems writing those autopilot tests, right? ;)13:05
asacogra: more than i expected :)13:05
bfillerthomi: ack13:05
OrokuSaki@ogra maybe I can toss one in the path it is supposed to be at13:05
davmor2popey: https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bug/1227113 +1 please13:05
jdstrandbfiller: in process to the app? you mean it doesn't work like the content hub?13:05
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1227113 in Ubuntu Music App "Settings page is oversized on maguro" [Undecided,New]13:05
rickspencer3cjwatson, so, er, your pkcon install-local worked perfectly, how does pkcon remove work? (I've tried several permutations of the package name) or do I use something else?13:05
mardytvoss__: you'd better give me a rope to hang myself :-)13:05
ograOrokuSaki, it is inside the android initrd usually and gets processed on boot by i dont know what :)13:05
ograasac, well13:06
tvoss__mardy, now that's kinda harsh13:06
OrokuSakiahh okay13:06
tvoss__;)13:06
balloonsasac, yes fixes landed for file manager13:06
asacbfiller: hey i think notes_app from daily-build fails tests13:06
asacbfiller: i tried thrree times13:06
mardytvoss__: well, if there are things that can't be done with qmake, fine, otherwise I think I'll resist a little (you can't image how much I dislike cmake) :-)13:06
asacmaybe check13:06
asacothers still work13:06
asacbut notes might not make it13:06
cjwatsonrickspencer3: the removal invocation is kind of annoying right now due to the way PackageKit works; it needs to be pkcon remove 'PACKAGE;VERSION;all;local:click' (see https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-appstore-developers/msg00553.html13:07
ograballoons, funnily they only seem to work on one device13:07
cjwatson)13:07
cjwatsonrickspencer3: Or you can use "sudo click unregister --user=phablet PACKAGE"13:07
ogramterry, hey13:07
tvoss__mardy, I hate to say it: resistance is futile ;)13:07
cjwatsonrickspencer3: The UI should paper over the awkwardness once it's done13:07
rickspencer3thanks cjwatson13:07
tvoss__mardy, but as you said: those are your projects13:07
mterryogra, hi13:07
jdstrandmdeslaur: contacts (and presumably calendar) won't use the content-hub. they apparently will do their own thing (I'm trying to figure out what that is atm). but it sounds like we need a new policy group or two13:08
ogramterry, we sadly had some issues with the merge :(13:08
mterryogra, :(13:08
mdeslaurjdstrand: ack13:08
ograinfo is on the merge page ... and i also filed a bug13:08
ogranot sure there is a way around the issue13:08
mardytvoss__: as I wouldn't like to have to rewrite everything in Go, one day ;-)13:08
balloonswell fixes landed for calendar and calculator as well.. Looks like calculator is good, calendar is still broken. Perhaps file manager ran with an old version on mako, I'll check13:08
ograelse we would have to wait until mir becomes the default13:09
* cjwatson considers having click notice that it's running as non-root in relevant places and call the relevant PK interfaces over D-Bus which would then call click again as root :)13:09
cjwatsonWhat could possibly go wrong13:09
mterryogra, I see the bug... hm13:09
ogramterry, your code predated the mir inclusion ...13:09
mterryogra, I did my testing on a surfaceflinger machine.  LightDM tries mir mode, but when unity-system-compositor isn't found, it just falls back to launching the session13:10
mterryogra, you tested and it didn't work on surfaceflinger?13:10
bfillerjdstrand: not exactly, there is a service that serves up contacts via dbus. And QtContacts api has a backend plugin that we've written qtcontact5-galera that talks to the service via dbus13:10
ogramterry, we ship mir disabled since last week13:10
mterryogra, I know13:11
ogramterry, lightdm always forcefully uses mir13:11
bfillerjdstrand: then in addition, there is a qt component that we wrote for a picker component that allows apps to choose contacts13:11
sergiusensmterry, it worked, very slowly, I added comments to the MR13:11
jdstrandbfiller: ok, that's all fine. but the service that gives the contacts out-- is that driven by the user?13:11
sergiusensogra, it actually only works with sf13:11
jdstrandbfiller: I see. is all of that in the archive now?13:11
ograsergiusens, right, but only if you remove mir13:11
rickspencer3cjwatson, so com.ubuntu.developer.rick-rickspencer3.applicationlifecycleapp_0.1_all.click, becomes pkcon remove "com.ubuntu.developer.rick-rickspencer3;0.1;all;local:click" ?13:11
sergiusensogra, yup13:11
bfillerjdstrand: yes all in the archive13:12
balloonsasac, ogra I can confirm mako ran with the old version, so I suspect file manager is good13:12
sergiusensdoesn't work with mir anyways, lots of errors in unity8.log13:12
ograballoons, ah, great, we just werent sure13:12
ograthanks !13:12
cjwatsonrickspencer3: Nearly - add ".applicationlifecycleapp" to the first ;-separated component there13:12
asacballoons: amazing :)13:12
mterrysergiusens, fascinating about the /run/user thing...  I haven't seen that I believe13:12
jdstrandbfiller: is it possible for an app to not use the picker component and just grab the whole address book?13:12
ograwell, it has to work with mir once mir is the default :)13:12
mterrysergiusens, you say session is super slow.  You mean slow to start or slow once started?13:13
popeyogra: <testsuite errors="0" failures="0" name="" tests="21" time="379.458">13:13
popeywith mtp enabled13:13
popey(unity)13:13
ograpopey, you ran a full test ?13:13
sergiusensmterry, once started, it's slow, opening apps, swiping13:13
popeyyup13:13
bfillerjdstrand: they could use the QtContacts api directly and access the entire address book if they have permissions I suppose13:13
cjwatsonrickspencer3: I'll see if I can find a way to polish this up at some point - maybe at least offer a way to dump out the list of installed packages in the form of PackageKit IDs for copy/pasting13:13
ograpopey, just checking that the erors go away wouold have been enough :)13:13
popeyogra: lemme run a couple of app tests13:13
bfillerjdstrand: QtContacts api exposes everything but funnels through dbus so we should be able to protect via apparmor13:14
ograits just an upstart job change13:14
rickspencer3cjwatson, mah13:14
ogracant affect unity or the apps13:14
rickspencer3meh, even13:14
rickspencer3cjwatson, not sure how high a priority it is13:14
rickspencer3I think the SDK team should paper over it for app developers and users should never see it13:14
jdstrandbfiller: right, that is not good and should be specifically disallowed. we can mediate at the dbus level, yes, but it depends on how the api is written as to whether it is effective. I'll play with it13:14
mterryogra, sergiusens: Well...  I could adjust my branches for the current mir-shipped-but-disabled image or I could just focus on final mir-enabled mode.  I suspect time best spent focusing on that13:15
rickspencer3ralsina, I'm getting the bug right now where htere is nothing in the installed apps scope13:16
sergiusensmterry, I agree on the focus on mir directly13:16
rickspencer3anything I can do to help debug?13:16
sergiusensmterry, but I have no ETA on when mir is going to be ready for touch13:16
ograasac, any opionion ? alternatives are: wait to land the lightdm change until mir is in or fix it for the current usecase so we can land earlier13:16
ogralanding earlier gets us more testing, but for a usecase we will drop13:17
cjwatsonrickspencer3: Not massively, it'd just save me some time13:17
cjwatsonrickspencer3: If I slot it in then so be it but I'm not going to worry about it13:17
ograsergiusens, with our current landing practice i would be worried that someone says "now it is to late for the release" if we have to wait for mir13:18
jdstrandbfiller: if I were to write a qml app to test this, would I use qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-contacts0.1 (and not qtdeclarative5-qtcontacts-plugin)13:18
guschalecu: it's a bug on android https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=41721&q=camera%20color&colspec=ID%20Type%20Status%20Owner%20Summary%20Stars13:19
ralsinarickspencer3: not yet13:19
guschalecu: no idea how to fix that - maybe sergiusens?13:19
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jdstrandit looks like it13:20
popeydavmor2: in return https://bugs.launchpad.net/dialer-app/+bug/1190673 can you check that13:20
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1190673 in dialer-app (Ubuntu) "Mic mute does not work" [High,Confirmed]13:20
alecugusch: Wow, thanks for finding it!13:20
asacoSoMoN: bfiller: notes_app regressed tests ... enable daily-build ppa and install notes_app and the autopilot frm there to try13:22
asaci might capture a log and file a bug for you, but if you could try while i finish the rest and see yourself that would be easier13:23
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oSoMoNnerochiaro: are you around today?13:23
davmor2popey: Wfm I've commented on the bug though.13:23
bfiller_meetingjdstrand: we should have a call about this, same thing applies to calendar backend and history-service13:23
davmor2popey: might be mako specific maybe13:23
sergiusensgusch, interesting, only mako I guess?13:24
guschsergiusens: yes, and it seems only a few resolutions13:24
* ogra updates to 5513:25
asacogra: not sure i can decide now13:26
alecugusch, sergiusens: I'm testing it on mako right now, at different zoom levels, and it seems to always happen13:26
* sergiusens notes that he doesn't have a mako13:27
alecugusch, sergiusens: even with the zoom set to the smallest level13:27
asacoSoMoN: bfiller_meeting: https://bugs.launchpad.net/notes-app/+bug/122712313:27
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1227123 in notes-app "notes-app trunk tests fails on top of build 54" [Undecided,New]13:27
* sergiusens wonders if gatox has a mako13:28
balloonsoSoMoN, it seems the calendar fix didn't net us anything.. I'm trying to update to get the bzr118 version that just landed to have a look13:28
alecusergiusens: gatox only has a nexus 713:28
gatoxsergiusens, i have the nexus7, whi?13:28
gatoxwhy13:28
oSoMoNballoons: can you point me to the logs of failing tests?13:28
sergiusensgatox, I need a mako... no worries13:28
balloonsoSoMoN, I can indeed :-) Here's an example: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/image/4323/calendar-app-autopilot/417097/13:29
gatoxsergiusens, i'm trying to win one in the ubuntu app showdown :P jeje13:29
balloonsoSoMoN, as far as I can tell, it won't switch months13:29
balloonsoSoMoN, you can see the drag operation, then the polling for a month change that never happens13:30
elfangorHi, i try to make a custom .desktop file to launch a little script bash but i don't see it on the application list, even after rebooting the phone. What am i missing?13:30
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oSoMoNballoons: that’s on maguro, and when I run the very same tests on my maguro device they pass13:33
oSoMoNI’m clueless here, until we get video recordings of the test runs I don’t see how we can diagnose the problem13:34
tedggusch, Hey, so popey and I were chatting in #ubuntu-unity and trying to figure out what the QML include was for the old HUD library to see if any apps still have it.  Do you remember what that is?13:38
guschtedg: import Ubuntu.HUD 1.0 as HUD13:39
tedggusch, Cool, thanks!13:40
tedgpopey, ^13:40
popeyyay13:41
popeythere's only one then13:41
popeywell, in the click packages, there may be more elsewhere... I'll grep more13:41
elfangorSomeone knows how to make a custom .desktop to laucnch a script?13:41
oSoMoNasac: according to the dashboard, the notes-app tests passed today both on mako and maguro, I’m running them locally on maguro to double check13:41
asacoSoMoN: yes i know that13:41
asacoSoMoN: just saying that whateer you committed to trunk13:41
asacbroke it13:41
asacoSoMoN: we cant land the latest trunk basically13:41
oSoMoNasac: the last commit in trunk is dated Sept. 9th13:42
asacoSoMoN: install latest image, set to writeable13:42
asacoSoMoN: then do: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6123730/\13:42
oSoMoNasac: and all it does is remove a stale runtime dep that was unused13:42
asacoSoMoN: after the apt-get install you can run your notes_app autopilot13:42
asacoSoMoN: if you find what out of those packages broke you i will kick them out13:43
asacoSoMoN: i can retry another time. notes is super flaki13:43
asacso could be i was just unlocky for 4 times in a row13:43
asacwe always retry that on the dashboard13:43
asacoSoMoN: can you maybe check that? it would be so helpful to get that better13:43
oSoMoNasac: trying your instructions now13:43
balloonsoSoMoN, yea, the fact the dragging didn't work was why I rewrote such an expanded version to try and see where it was timing out and having issues13:44
oSoMoNballoons: right, but if it works locally and only fails on devices in the lab, having a rewritten version doesn’t help, unfortunately13:45
oSoMoNballoons: we’d need to see what’s happening in the lab while the tests are running13:45
Laneymardy: thanks for reviewing the cmake branch13:46
balloonsoSoMoN, well I made it act differently in the lab ha! But I understand, you can vent the frustration all you want; it's frustrating that it works everywhere but the lab13:46
LaneyI was feeling quite low on energy to do that one13:46
mardyLaney: hehe, me too, TBH :-)13:46
ograpopey, did your testing for  libqt5script5 succeed ?13:47
LaneyI should drop a hint to fix my symlink issue13:47
popeystill running ogra13:48
popeyaccidentially rebooted in the middle so had to start again13:48
ograah, k13:48
davmor2popey: Wow I only run ubuntu on my phone but you run ogra on yours that's impressive13:48
popeyogra 2.0!13:49
ograboot slow, i tried that13:49
ogra*boots13:49
ograalways needs a few coffees and cigarettes first13:49
popeyhaha, i was gonna say that, glad you did first ☻13:50
ograonce it runs it is quite stable ... (only high beer load makes it a little unstable at times)13:50
nerochiarooSoMoN: yes, just didn't see your message until now13:50
nerochiarosorry13:51
tedgpopey, So when I do: apt-cache rdepends qtdeclarative5-hud1.013:51
tedgpopey, I get basically all our apps13:51
asacoSoMoN: i ran the notes_app test on top of 54 image successfully, ten after installing the stuff in there, it fails 100% of the times13:51
asacjust fyi13:51
oSoMoNnerochiaro: can you please have a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/notes-app/+bug/1227123 ? it appears somehow the daily build of notes-app fails autopilot tests, you can check with the following instructions: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6123730/13:52
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1227123 in notes-app "notes-app trunk tests fails on top of build 54" [Undecided,New]13:52
popeytedg: a simple test is uninstalling the package and rebooting, and seeing if it works?13:52
popeytedg: I can do that13:52
tedgpopey, I'm saying I think if you do that you'll uninstall a bunch of stuff.13:52
popeyah13:52
tedgI mean, I'm okay with *you* testing it :-)13:53
nerochiarooSoMoN: i'll be on it soon13:53
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popeytedg: i have two phones ㋛13:53
tedgpopey, Do you know how those depends are generated?  Parsing the QML or by hand?13:53
popeyfor our apps, unlikely, as they mostly pre-date the sdk13:53
popeywhen you say "our apps" I presume you mean, camera, gallery etc?13:54
oSoMoNasac: I just ran the tests after executing your instructions, and they passed (that’s on maguro)13:54
popeynot core apps like clock, calendar, calculator?13:54
jdstrandtvoss__: so, the address-book-app appears to do a bunch of stuff that an app wouldn't necessarily. what is the api that apps are supposed to use to pick a contact?13:54
oSoMoNasac: how do I know which version of the image I have?13:55
tedgpopey,  webbrowser-app share-app notes-app mediaplayer-app gallery-app camera-app13:55
popeyoSoMoN: /var/log/installer/media-info13:55
popeytedg: makes sense.13:55
popeytedg: needs a bug filed against all of them I suspect13:56
oSoMoNpopey: doesn’t tell me the image number, though it says 20130916.313:56
tedgpopey, K13:56
oSoMoNasac: is notes-app the only app with failing tests?13:57
davmor2popey: no surely one master bug with all the projects added to it is enough13:57
davmor2tedg: ^13:58
tedgdavmor2, Of course, I think that's what he meant13:58
sergiusensogra, https://code.launchpad.net/~sergiusens/ubuntu/saucy/lxc-android-config/localbridge/+merge/18632514:00
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popeyi did14:00
asacoSoMoN: i think so... the dialer app is the last14:01
asacout of that list14:01
asac(ignore keyboard)14:01
asacwill do that now14:01
asacoSoMoN: everything worked on first try. notes is always failing now14:01
asacand notes worked twice on first try on a fresh install as well14:01
asacso... :)14:01
asac1+1=314:01
oSoMoNasac: that’s puzzling to say the least, I’ve asked nerochiaro (notes-app maintainer) to investigate14:02
oSoMoNasac: how can I tell which image version I’m running?14:03
asacoSoMoN: someone should grab the phone and do it14:03
asacafter dialer app i run more time14:03
asacoSoMoN: just install latest installed  ubuntu-system14:03
asacfresh14:03
asacdont even need the proposed channel ... its super fresh14:03
asacthats 5414:03
oSoMoNasac: doing that right now, the version I had was installed a few hours ago, maybe not the latest?14:03
asacoSoMoN: probably the latest14:03
asacoSoMoN: you can also wait until i rerun. tried 4 times. maybe its better on 5th time :)14:04
asacthose notes tests have always been flaky. we should maybe use this opportunity to unflake them14:04
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cyphermoxpopey: the directory is "Books" right?14:07
popeyyes14:07
elfangorSorry to insist, i try to launch a custom bash script and put a .desktop so i can clic on it to run it(the .desktop file work on my computer) but i can't see the app on the app list, someone have an idea? :)14:07
popeycyphermox: https://github.com/rschroll/beru/issues/414:07
cyphermoxawesome.14:08
cyphermoxproposing merge now.14:08
ograsergiusens, looks good14:08
cyphermoxrsalveti: you mentioned bugs for mtp, is it only the errors on reboot?14:10
ogracyphermox, he is out until monday14:15
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cyphermoxalright14:15
ograheadbangin14:15
cyphermoxjdstrand: what was the issue with dbus and ofono yesterday? would this have affected NM talking to oFono?14:15
awe_cyphermox, rsalveti is on the road to rio14:16
cyphermoxack14:16
cyphermoxasac: we'll need to release mtp again sometime to fix bugs; can it be added to the list?14:17
asaccyphermox: ogra is doing it. you should also have access to add landing asks14:17
asacif you dont i can add you14:17
cyphermoxI'm asking permission :)14:18
cyphermoxI *can* edit the spreadsheet, doesn't mean I should :)14:18
cyphermoxso in this case I can rerun the services stack for ogra?14:18
ogracyphermox, as i said, i took care of everything apart from CI to get it in the archive14:19
cyphermoxyes14:19
ogracyphermox, line 43 in the "landing Asks" sheet14:19
cyphermoxI'm just making sure it's alright to do the daily release14:19
cyphermoxack14:19
ograits a minro fix so i asked for quick fix approval (the sheet entry is only for history reasons)14:20
ogra*minor14:20
cyphermoxit's not in the plan though14:20
ograquick fix :)14:21
hramrachGuidoPallemans: on a numpad you enter digits and either the pin length is fixed so it auto-submits when you enter the last or you press some submit button14:21
ograzero risk, tested prior to request etc14:21
cyphermoxand services also has content-hub and music and stuff, so if I need to land this bug not touch the others, it's still some work14:21
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hramrachso same with that circle thing - you need a way to submit14:21
cyphermoxogra: asac: ok so I'll hack through the services stack to just rebuild and release mtp, not the others14:22
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hramrachseems there is some predefined length of the input sequence which is wrong for this kind of input14:22
cyphermoxdidrocks: ^14:22
ogracyphermox, great14:22
GuidoPallemanshramrach: ah yes, it isn't clear in the gif I posted online, but the lock is "tested" as soon as you lift the mouse / thumb14:22
GuidoPallemanshramrach: download the source if you want to see what I mean14:22
didrockscyphermox: just rebuild with "mtp" in the arg, yeah14:23
didrocksno need to "hack" :p14:23
hramrachI did not manage t o install Ubuntu touch on anything14:23
cyphermoxpopey: ^^ the Books addition will need to land later though14:23
cyphermoxdidrocks: we don't want to rebuild/release the others though, but yeah I guess it's fine14:23
popeycyphermox: sweet14:23
asaccyphermox: yeah, please prep etc. depending on when you ar ready we take it or not in the next image run14:23
ograyeah, thats more polish than bugfix anyway14:23
didrockscyphermox: oh sure, just pop them out then14:23
popeycyphermox: will that be En only? do we keep the folder names on each locale and not translate?14:23
asacwe are doing some final validationm etc.14:23
cyphermoxdidrocks: previously, content-hub and others had diff so I didn  want to risk release thing14:23
cyphermox*releasing them14:23
asaci feel it will not be there in time... but not a big deal. a new image is coming14:23
didrocksbut yeah, as asac mentionned, after this run (so don't publish)14:23
cyphermoxpopey: AFAIK they're not translated atm14:24
ograpopey, the decision was to keep the foilder names on the fs afaik14:24
ograpopey, translation would likely happen inside mtp14:24
hramrachGuidoPallemans: finishing input by lifting the finger is usual for patterns but might be difficult for longer patterns14:24
ogra(similar for the filemanager)14:24
jdstrandcyphermox: no, that was unrelated. the issue I brought up was how apps can figure out if they are online in a way that doesn't expose all network details14:24
GuidoPallemanshramrach: you don't need to install on a touch device, I don't have any either14:24
cyphermoxogra: I don't do translation ATM...14:24
hramrachmaybe an laternative way like tapping the center would be useful14:24
ogracyphermox, well, hypotethically :)14:24
cyphermoxjdstrand: ack... I was asking because I tried to do something and ofono seemed to not like NM over dbus :)14:25
cyphermoxogra: sure. It's possible to do it that way actually, it would be pretty cool14:25
GuidoPallemanshramrach: you're right, but the design isn't suited for just tapping, then the other design is more appropiate (either 789 456 123 0 or https://lh3.ggpht.com/-7enUawUTAt8/UdwAEbtbCxI/AAAAAAAAJ_8/p909d-bYlf8/s1600/unlocscreen03B.png )14:25
cyphermoxogra: but I didn't spend time to fix that yet... prhaps for next release14:25
asacoSoMoN: ok i saw a success... please please please make it a priority to make this more reliable14:26
asacnotes_app that is14:26
ogracyphermox, i think thats the plan, keep the english names on disk but have the apps that expose them translate them ... that gives you predictable folder names14:26
hramrachthere is good distinction between tap and drag even if the drag gesture is not completely uninterrupted14:26
ogra(on the filesystem that is)14:26
cyphermoxogra: yeah, guess so14:26
oSoMoNnerochiaro: see asac’s latest comments14:26
GuidoPallemanshramrach: sent another mail14:29
hramrachwhere is the source, anyway?14:30
hramrachdon;t see it in the blog post or what it is with the pictures14:30
GuidoPallemanshramrach: it's both in my first mail as in my blog post14:31
GuidoPallemansgithub.com/brambram/qml-lock14:31
hramrachyes, found it in the email, thanks14:32
tpuserHello! When will ubuntu touch be released? In October as 13.10 Release? Will be there an bootable .iso image for convertible Tablets such as Thinkpad X220 Tablet?14:33
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ogratpuser, no, it will only be released for phones by 13.1014:35
davmor2popey: file browser: does Documents go under the title bar for you?14:37
tpuserogra,  will be there any packeges I can install to my *buntu (actually Xubuntu) to get better touch support and use touch opimized apps?14:38
popeydavmor2: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-filemanager-app/+bug/122706514:38
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1227065 in Ubuntu UI Toolkit "entries are padded too much.. alignment is off" [Undecided,New]14:38
ograyou should be able to install unity8 and apps, but they might or might not work depending how much of the underlying HW support they need14:38
davmor2popey: I thought there was a doc viewer app or has that not landed?14:39
tpuserogra, thx very much!14:39
nerochiarooSoMoN: asac: what is it that you think is unreliable in notes-app ?14:39
popeydavmor2: there is, it seems to be broken.14:39
asacnerochiaro: running tests14:40
asacplease take a maguro, boot it and run three times autopilot14:40
asacthen reboot and do again14:40
davmor2popey: that'll explain it not opening the pdf then possibly :)14:40
asacnerochiaro: it should happen rather frequently14:40
cyphermoxogra: can you ping me when the image is out so I can push mtp then?14:40
asacnerochiaro: do that until you can rerun it all day long without ever getting a failure :)14:40
hramrachGuidoPallemans: well, it needs some Ubuntu.Components which I don't have14:40
cyphermoxthat's unless you want it to land now for this image.14:40
asacnerochiaro: like a while loop :)14:40
nerochiaroasac: ok. they used to run fine, and not a lot of code was added to the app recently. so i wonder what broke them or made them unreliable14:41
asacnerochiaro: they always were flaki14:41
asacjust run them in a while loop14:41
asacthose tests are not stable14:41
GuidoPallemanshramrach: http://developer.ubuntu.com/get-started/#step-get-toolkit14:41
asacnerochiaro: we have been retryuing those tests in automation for over a month14:41
ogracyphermox, landing it now was the plan14:41
cyphermoxogra: ok14:41
asacnerochiaro: i think they were never reliable. hence i would like to see someone taking the time to flash that out14:41
ogracyphermox, just shove it in if you can :)14:41
cyphermoxstill need to wait for the build to finish though14:41
GuidoPallemanshramrach: 1 command14:41
asaccyphermox: ogra: isnt mtp inflight and not TODO?14:42
jdstrandtvoss__, bfiller: ah, I see. I'm using Ubuntu.Contacts 0.1. contacts, calendar and history need to be trusted helpers14:42
cyphermoxasac: what does inflight mean?14:42
ograasac, you said do as you like :)14:42
nerochiaroasac: i never had failures when running them on the device. they were often failing in jenkins. but jenkins has been flaky for a long time now, even with a lot of other packages. i'll try to repro what you suggest on my device14:42
asaccyphermox: in the daily-release stage14:42
cyphermoxasac: then yes14:42
ograasac, and its 0 risk for any apps14:42
cyphermoxbuilding in a PPA at the moment14:42
asaccyphermox: so if its rumbling or waiting in daily-build its INFLIGHT14:43
cyphermoxack14:43
ograok14:43
* asac should document those recently invented states :)14:43
nerochiaroasac: just to be sure, should i use cdimage-touch or the system image ?14:43
asacnerochiaro: start with systemimage, make it writeable14:43
jdstrandtvoss__, bfiller: we treat it just like online accounts and location-- if an app tries to access them, the service pops up a prompt, then the service caches it14:43
asacand then go for it14:43
jdstrandtvoss__, bfiller: if we can agree to that ^, we don't need the meeting later14:43
nerochiaroasac: without updates or anything, just plain system image ? ok14:44
asacnerochiaro: yeah. take system image, make it writable, reboot14:44
bfillerjdstrand: I think we should still meet, I'm a bit confused :)14:44
jdstrandtvoss__, bfiller: and I can summarize in an email14:44
asacnerochiaro: then do the commands from the paste ... at best reboot, then run tests14:44
asacuntil you see a failure14:44
jdstrandbfiller: that's fine. tvoss__, would you like to attend that meeting ^14:44
joncasagrandeHi everybody does anybody now how to install ubuntu touch in win?14:44
jdstrandtvoss__: I'll invite you, you can decide either way14:45
nerochiaroasac: ok14:45
bfillerjdstrand: calendar might be a bit trickier, as the QtOrganizer plugin talks directly to EDS - we don't have a helper service14:45
bfillerEDS is the service14:45
jdstrandbfiller: we actually have the same issue with contacts-- it is using telepathy as well as com.canonical.pim14:46
jdstrandbfiller: tvoss__ has a plan for how to make this easy for trusted helpers, so it would be nice if he could attend14:46
bfillerjdstrand:ack, I'll reschedule to a time more friedly for tvoss__14:47
jdstrandbfiller: ok, thanks14:47
Guest22239ogra: (its mfisch) do you have any docs explaining what system-image does? is it a real h/w?14:47
ograGuest22239, i think stgraber wrote that up somewhere in a wikipage for the blueprint14:47
Guest22239cwayne1: can you look for that ^^?14:48
ograGuest22239, try here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ImageBasedUpgrades14:48
jdstrandbfiller: in the meantime I am going to create the apparmor policy groups to allow access, just like we did with location. after we discuss in the meeting we can file bugs for adding the trusted helper bits14:48
oSoMoNom26er: regarding the calendar-app autopilot tests, is there a way to get a video recording of a test run in the lab?14:54
om26eroSoMoN, is that a failure on device or VM ?14:55
om26erVM have a video, devices don't14:55
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oSoMoNom26er: on devices14:56
om26eroSoMoN, can you point me at the failures please14:57
joncasagrandeI'm having trouble to install ubuntu touch on galaxy nexus, does anybody know what could be?14:57
oSoMoNom26er: for example http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/image/4323/calendar-app-autopilot/14:58
om26eroSoMoN, ok, I have a readonly image device, I'll ask plars about how to install tests on that device first and look into it.15:00
om26erplars, how can I install a test suite on readonly image ?15:00
plarsom26er: touch /userdata/.writable_image15:01
plarsom26er: and reboot15:01
om26erplars, just like that. ok. I was expecting it to be click based but I guess that's not there yet15:02
gemasergiusens: can you remind me how to install yesterday's image with phablet-flash? is it -n -1?15:08
gemaor ogra ^ ?15:09
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* ogra doesnt know if that even works witrh system-image yet 15:09
gemaif it doesn't I will have to raise a bug15:09
gemaogra: but I believe sergiusens told me it does during the sprint last week15:10
gemarsalveti: ^ ?15:11
gemaogra: --revision -115:13
ograah, thanks :)15:14
gema-2 , etcv15:14
ogragema, btw, rsalveti is on headbangcation this week15:14
ogra(off to a rock festival)15:14
cwayne1does --revision work to pass an actual revision number instead of a relative one?15:15
cwayne1i.e. can i say --revision 4515:15
gemacwayne1: no idea15:15
om26erawe_, you got some time today about "getting gprs working on my phone" :)15:16
loolcwayne1: no15:16
loolcwayne1:     else:15:16
lool        raise EnvironmentError('Specific version retrieve not supported yet')15:16
loolcwayne1: see setup_ubuntu_system() in phablet-tools/phabletutils/environment.py15:17
loolnot implemented yet15:17
lool0 and -n are the only implemented cases15:17
awe_om26er, I spent time yesterday working on the voicecall osd/auto-callback bug15:17
cwayne1lool: ah, any idea when it might be supported?15:17
awe_om26er, I will work on your gprs bug today, and may get you a test package you can try15:17
om26erawe_, ok, that sounds cool.15:17
om26erawe_, the formal was my bug as well ;)15:18
sergiusenscwayne1, it should15:19
davmor2om26er: former, and I wrote a nice bug for gprs not working on maguro that is "Fixed" only we managed to break it as soon as we tested it,  cyphermox and rsalveti helped with that though15:19
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om26erdavmor2, hah right15:19
davmor2om26er: I think maguro has a way flakier modem in it than mako but I could be wrong15:20
sergiusenscwayne1, gema that said, I saw  an MR from doanac for this + channel selection; I'm going to look and approve if it works, but it is going to be on him to get it as a package (not doing the whole utah test again to land a simple package)15:20
anders3408ogra: do you have any idea on why i need to do cat /sys/graphics/fb0/lcdoff and then lcdon to get the display up  when phone boots  ? on aosp roms there is no display issues15:20
anders3408iBotPeaches: you here ?15:21
ograanders3408, does the android init probably usually do that ?15:21
anders3408uhm, not the init.find5.rc part15:21
om26erdavmor2, I have both, gprs does not work on none for me due to settings problems15:22
anders3408ramdisk is the same as it is on cm10.1 roms. at least all the device specific parts15:22
loolcwayne1: no idea  :-)15:22
oSoMoN_bfiller: re- https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/webbrowser-app/ua-override-facebook.com/+merge/182862 , we haven’t come to a decision, but I think overall this override is better than the current situation, so I would vote for merging it, what do you think?15:22
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davmor2om26er: :(15:22
ograanders3408, well, no idea then .... i suppose you could add such a workaround to the android init though15:23
bfilleroSoMoN_: +115:23
cwayne1sergiusens: works for me :)15:23
anders3408added cat ...... but init doesnt know anything named cat :) but i should be able to do it in a init.d scriipt :)15:23
oSoMoN_bfiller: cool, would you mind approving it, so I don’t approve my own MRs?15:23
ograanders3408, we dont have pixelflinger (for the bootanim) probably the device has some init code for the display in there15:23
bfilleroSoMoN_: will do15:23
oSoMoN_ thanks15:23
MDesignerhey guys, quick Q. I've been installing the devel-proposed daily builds. is there somewhere I can see a changelog to see what's new each day?15:24
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bfilleroSoMoN: done15:24
anders3408another question, ogra: when rebooting the lxc-container doesnt mount as it should but on first boot it works... thats kinda irretating :)15:24
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ograanders3408, yeah, no idea what that could be (didnt we talk about it yesterday too ?)15:25
anders3408yes we did ogra :)15:25
kdub where does the ubuntu touch kernel come from?15:26
ograkdub, android15:27
kdubogra, so its just a stock cm kernel?15:27
ograno15:27
ograit has a lot of changes ... the base is a stock CM one15:28
ograyou need a bunch of config changes, a patch for ureadahead and a patch to add support for the latest apparmor15:28
popeyMDesigner: see the last link in the topic15:29
kdubogra,  i think I need to set some config flags to get some display-related ioctls15:29
ogra(and depending on the device, more changes to make it work with the container setup we use)15:29
kdubis there a wiki explaining how to build?15:29
ograkdub, i think the kernel team has pages for that yeah ... ask in #ubuntu-kernel iirc there is even a cross compile howto that should make it fast15:30
kdubogra, thanks15:30
om26erawe_, home I am not bugging you too much. if a bug is not in ofono and is deeper than that i.e. rild which launchpad project for that ?15:34
om26ere.g. bug 122719915:34
ubot5bug 1227199 in dialer-app (Ubuntu) "Ubuntu phone does not tell that the number its dialing to is on another call, simply ends the call if the number does not have voicemail enabled" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122719915:34
popeyogra: finally finished testing... (once I remembered to switch to the right terminal), all looks good for libqt5script515:35
ograpopey, i'll add that to the spredsheet15:35
ograpopey, thanks !15:35
popeynp15:36
awe_om26er, if a bug is in RILD, we're basically screwed...as RILD is a closed source blob15:36
awe_om26er, we can try workarounds, but there's not much more we can do15:36
awe_I'll take a look at your bug15:36
awe_om26er, also we've implemented very little of the plumbing necessary for handling multiple calls15:37
om26erawe_, i would assume then something would need to be handled in ofono since the problem is not in android15:37
om26erawe_, ah - ok15:37
awe_om26er, I tried asking asac about generic bug  lists, and he told me not to worry.  My SoP would be to file  such bugs first against ubuntu-touch-preview15:38
awe_and then once we figure out which package is the cause, use affects distro, and choose the right package15:38
om26erawe_, ok, I'll move the bug there15:39
asacawe_: om26er: if the package is in the archive, file the bug against the package and give it to jfunk15:39
asacif its something we should look at15:39
awe_asac, what if you don't know which package is the problem?15:39
awe_that's why I use ubuntu-touch-preview as the umbrella project, and then also affects the bug once I (we) know where it lives15:40
asacawe_: then file it against the package exposing the misbehaviour15:40
popeyawe_: best not to file against ubuntu-touch-preview15:40
popeyas we're disabling the bug tracker there15:40
asacright. please not there :)15:40
pmcgowanwe are trying to deprecate that project for bugs15:40
popeyi exported a list of all the bugs that are in it15:40
awe_first I've heard of this15:40
popeyand am re-assigning them as I can15:40
awe_so where does someone file a generic bug?15:41
awe_( ie. before the source package is known )?15:41
awe_asac, popey, pmcgowan, are there plans to communicate this to the team?15:41
popeyI put a boilerplate at https://launchpad.net/touch-preview-images15:41
awe_asac, ok... missed your earlier stmt15:42
popeywhich has a wiki page which links to many of the right bug trackers15:42
pmcgowanawe_, this has been planned for some time but just now trying to switch15:42
awe_popey, has this been communicated to the ML?15:42
popeyno, because it's not been switched off yet15:42
awe_pmcgowan, again...first I've heard15:43
pmcgowanawe_, we just started doing it!15:43
pmcgowanlike a few hours ago15:43
awe_k15:43
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awe_om26er, so don't move the bug there!  ;)-15:43
popeythere's a fair number which are pretty obvious what they are15:43
popeyand even have people assigned15:43
popeye.g. https://bugs.launchpad.net/touch-preview-images/+bug/122502215:43
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1225022 in touch-preview-images "[ofono][rild] "PinRequired" property does not always work" [Undecided,New]15:43
popeyshould be reassigned to ubuntu/ofono and touch-preview-images removed15:44
om26erawe_, back to ofono sounds good ? :)15:44
awe_sure15:44
loolbfiller, renato: Heya15:44
awe_popey, has anyone been tasked with confirming bugs?15:44
popeybut we're slowly going through that so you guys don't have to ☻15:44
awe_lots in New state15:44
popeyawe_: I'm trying to ☻15:44
awe_k15:44
popeythere were ~280 of them earlier15:44
loolbfiller, renato: Mirv refactored your proposed qtpim-opensource-src update into https://code.launchpad.net/~kubuntu-packagers/kubuntu-packaging/qtpim-opensource-src15:44
popey"only" 211 to go ☻15:45
loolbfiller, renato: But it wasn't proposed for merging yet => no review, no testbuild, no .debs; would one of you two either start the merge + review process, or confirm that I should?15:45
bfillerlool: if you don't mind doing that would be great. we could tests the debs once available15:46
asacbfiller: testing involves running autopilots on the phone though15:47
bfillerasac: yes15:48
asacgood15:48
asaci htink lool distilled a good set of pilots that we should try to be safe15:48
om26ersforshee, ping15:49
loolbfiller, renato: Oh I get it now, it's not under CI, is it?15:49
MDesignerpopey, ahh.. changelog in the topic. thanks15:49
asacoSoMoN: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/image/4336/ notes app being flaki can be observved there again :)15:49
bfillerlool: no15:49
loolI guess because it's used in kubuntu15:49
asacnerochiaro: ^^15:49
asacthats like happening 2 our of 3 runs15:49
davmor2popey: hey I know a song for that, 211 bugs on a wall, 211 bugs, take one down test it around, there's 210 bugs on the wall.  It also works with the app migration however there were 960 of those and they take a bit longer :)15:50
asacnerochiaro: oSoMoN: so thanks for running those in a while loop at a convenient time until they are rocking :-P15:50
bfillerasac, sil2100: oSoMoN just noticed webbrowser-app was released - and we never requested a release for that15:50
nerochiaroasac: i ran it 4 times so far and never failed. i'm continuously repeating15:50
asacbfiller: hmm. is it badly busted?15:51
asacbfiller: the tests seem to pass at least15:51
bfillerasac: no, just that we thought we needed to manually request anything for it to be released15:51
popeydavmor2: 205 now ☻15:51
oSoMoNasac: not busted at all, just wondering why it was released without a prior request15:52
asacso we are slowly relaxing things a bit for those that have decent tests15:52
asacand are usually safe15:52
asacthats all apps15:52
asacfor now... we said: lets try to take everything bfiller has, every day15:52
asacso good news for you15:52
davmor2popey: I'm at 927 but doubt I'll be doing any today15:53
popeyheh15:53
oSoMoNasac: that’s good news indeed15:53
asacbfiller: but continue filling requests until that is official15:53
asacwe will expand that model to more that we feel we can control15:53
bfillerasac: ok, didn't know about that15:53
asaccontrol == understand the potential impact and side effects on other tests15:53
asacbfiller: right. was supposed to be a surprise :)15:53
asacnow if notes app goes stable, it will be very quick for you guys15:53
bfillerasac: just means we have to keep trunk working all the time, which is what we are trying to do anyway15:53
nerochiaropete-woods: i'm trying to query the metrics data store over DBUS from a qml plugin. the plugin code looks like this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6124462/ but when running I get an error like this: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6124466/15:54
nerochiaropete-woods: any ideas ?15:54
asacright15:54
asacbfiller: just dont stop filling request for stuff you want to see land for sure. we might miss something otherwise or wait without telling you15:54
asacwe will improve things after this week :)15:54
bfillerasac: will continue with the requests15:55
asacthx15:55
oSoMoNballoons: I’ve managed to reproduce the calendar-app tests failure on my device, unfortunately it was running in the background while I was doing something else, so I don’t really know what went wrong16:00
pete-woodsnerochiaro: well the warning about QThread is obviously pretty scary sounding, I'm not familiar enough with QML plug-ins to know what is causing that16:00
oSoMoNballoons: but at least I know it can fail on my device, so I’ll instrument the test and run it as many times as needed to make it fail again16:01
balloonsoSoMoN, I've been doing some other things this morning, but the tests won't run locally for me after flashing today's image.. not sure why adb hates me now16:01
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pete-woodsnerochiaro: it sounds like either the usermetrics service is successfully starting, or the start() method is never being called, as that would throw an error if it failed16:04
nerochiaropete-woods: what are these messages about threads ? could it be that it is start() failing when called from the plugin ?16:05
pete-woodsnerochiaro: it could be, there's not enough debug output there for me to know what's going on, though16:06
pete-woodsnerochiaro: I would consider making the start method a slot, and connecting it to some signal from your tests16:08
pete-woodsI think that causes it to be invoked on the right thread16:08
* pete-woods is obviously partly guessing here16:08
pete-woodsnerochiaro: I'd say you could also move the startServices call into the constructor, I only have it in SetUp() because of Google test not liking errors inside its test constructors16:10
plarsSaviq: (others?) https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/saucy-touch_ro-mako-smoke-ubuntu-calculator-app-autopilot/91/artifact/clientlogs/top_after.log/*view*/ - after one of our autopilot tests on mako, it seemed like unity was chewing up the cpu16:12
plarsno .crash or anything though16:12
Saviqplars, thanks for the heads up, we'll keep an eye out16:13
AskUbuntuIssue installing Ubuntu touch on Nexus 4 | http://askubuntu.com/q/34715416:13
plarsSaviq: there's also a unity.log there if that's useful16:13
plarsSaviq: linked off of http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/image/4336/ubuntu-calculator-app-autopilot/419068/16:13
Saviqplars, yup, thanks16:14
Saviqplars, that's pretty nifty, btw :)16:14
thomiIn the battery indicator, the slider to adjust screen brightness no longer has a label, so it's not obvious what it does. Is this a known bug? If not, what project should I report it under?16:18
thomijfunk: has someone reported that to you? ^^16:19
balloonsoSoMoN, got calendar to run on my device; it's the same as when I merged it.. it HANGS for a long long time upon starting the first monthview test16:20
oSoMoNballoons: does it also happen if you run one selected monthview test, instead of the whole suite?16:21
balloonsoSoMoN, if I remember correctly, no a one-off test works fine.. let me confirm now16:21
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alecurickspencer3: ping. ralsina tells me you had an empty click scope, and I'm not able to reproduce it on my nexus 4.16:24
alecurickspencer3: may I ask for the version of the image you are using?16:24
balloonsoSoMoN, yes confirmed.. running them one at a time works16:24
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loolbfiller, renato: qtpim-opensource-src .debs in https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-unity/+archive/daily-build/+build/5029691 and soon in ppa:ubuntu-unity/daily-build16:25
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nerochiaropete-woods: seems to be working the way you suggest. thanks16:25
drachensunHello, any know why adbd would say "cannot bind 'tcp:5037'"16:26
cjwatsonanother adbd running?16:26
drachensunI checked that, nope16:26
cjwatsonsudo netstat -anp | grep -w 503716:26
drachensunnot is ps16:26
jfunkthomi, I haven't seen that defect, balloons ^^?16:27
drachensunI ran netstat -a and didn't see anything, let me try adding the np16:27
pete-woodsnerochiaro: woot! glad I helped. which solution worked, btw? (I like to try and understand fixes)16:27
jfunkthomi, re: project list - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/TouchTesting/BugFiling16:28
jfunkthomi, and all things manual/swat/avengers related - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/TouchTesting#preview16:28
balloonsoSoMoN, thomi just fixed a bug in autopilot that caused tests to run slowly in saucy.. I wonder if it is the source of our issue. I can't get the full logs from the run to confirm or deny. However, the pause happens on the first test and it waits for a long long time.. i assume it's a dbus timeout issue. once that's cleared it runs16:29
didrocksrsalveti: hey, it seems the release team answered to you, you might want to give further infos: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gst-plugins-bad1.0/+bug/122466516:30
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1224665 in gst-plugins-bad1.0 (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Android media support over hybris for gst-plugins-bad1.0" [Undecided,New]16:30
oSoMoNballoons: do you have a link to the fix thomi made, and has it been released?16:30
balloonsoSoMoN, I don't I was hoping he would see the ping :-) and that I would get a proper trace for him to look at. I can't see to get autopilot to run excet through phablet-test-run16:31
asacChickenCutlass: hey16:31
asacChickenCutlass: you need to take over rsalveti's landing asks for multimedia16:31
asacChickenCutlass: thats row 3516:31
asacwe dont know if anything isthere... they are all "waiting for code"16:31
asaclet me and didrocks us know if you change them16:32
didrocksChickenCutlass: and https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gst-plugins-bad1.0/+bug/1224665 for the FFe with questions from the release team16:32
asacotherwise i assume it snot going in tomorrow16:32
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1224665 in gst-plugins-bad1.0 (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Android media support over hybris for gst-plugins-bad1.0" [Undecided,New]16:32
balloonsohh, I think I know why.. let me see.. fingers crossed for a log16:32
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asacChickenCutlass: so "qtubuntu changes to support the new multimedia stack (jim's work)" we would like to take that16:35
asacbut its not clear if that has the right code etc.16:35
asacChickenCutlass: can you check and update that landing ask line so its clear waht to land and when?16:35
didrocksricmm: is that linked to qtubuntu + platform-api changes we discussed? ^16:35
oSoMoNballoons: ok, so it seems the first test hangs for a very long time just after completing (and before the app is killed prior to launching the second one), and since there is no simulated user input, the screen is blanked and locked, resulting in subsequent interactions being ignored16:37
tedgjdstrand, I thought we had a page that defined app id.  Do you remember where that was?16:37
balloonsoSoMoN, yes I believe your correct16:40
oSoMoNballoons: I’m not seeing any recent commit in lp:autopilot that indicates that a bug related to slowness was fixed16:40
balloonskilling the shell let's it complete16:40
drachensuncjwatson: http://pastebin.com/6ee0X8n516:40
cjwatsontedg: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppStore/Interfaces/ApplicationId ?16:40
drachensunI dont see anything in there, also includes ps output16:40
cjwatsondrachensun: Not sure then, sorry16:41
tedgcjwatson, That works, thanks!16:41
drachensunok thanks16:41
drachensunwell I think the lack of answers means no one has run into this16:41
drachensunI can tell its booting, but something else is quiting16:42
drachensunwell I think something else is quitting, adb isn't vital to the boot is it?16:42
balloonsbah, my testrun still fails on the device16:42
drachensunok different question, I'm not sure about the permissions, my /vendor directory is in group 2000 and /data is in user/group system for the most part, listing here http://pastebin.com/TU2LrHkc16:45
drachensunis that right?16:45
jdstrandtedg, cjwatson: oh, I didn't know that page existed. I am going to clean it up a bit16:46
oreneeshythe dash concept we pitched to Mark16:46
pmcgowanpopey, which core apps are setup to call openexternalurl do you know?16:48
sarnoldplars: re: maguros shutting down, sorry, no idea; I can't recall mentioning temp-related shutdowns recently, maybe that was someone else? (I hope :)16:50
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wazdrahi16:50
wazdrais there someone to help me, i can't complete my installation16:51
thomioSoMoN: wrong branch: lp:autopilot/1.3 for saucy releases16:54
LaneyWhat directory should I measure the space of for "Used by apps"?16:54
LaneyIs it /opt/click.ubuntu.com/?16:54
popeypmcgowan: good question. I don't know without looking16:54
cjwatsonLaney: "click list --manifest" already gives the space used under there16:54
pmcgowanpopey, I was thinking rss reader, but not sure which others16:55
oSoMoNthomi: ah, thanks! do you have a pointer to the bug that was fixed? I’d like to get some context16:55
cjwatsonLaney: (installed-size)16:55
Laneycjwatson: Oh, yes, I even implemented something to read that already.16:55
ricmmdidrocks: asac no16:55
ricmmthose are two separate branches16:55
* Laney runs16:55
popeypmcgowan: oh, which ones _need_ it you mean?16:55
pmcgowanpopey, some stuff is startng to be testable for that so would be good to know if anyone already has the api hooked up16:55
pmcgowanyep16:55
wazdraso, i have installed all i need to get through installation, i have unlocked my nexus 4. but when I enter phablet-flash(...) it works until recovery, and then, it doesn't find my phone anymore. What should I do ?16:55
ricmmdidrocks: asac ChickenCutlass but I'll say land *both* and we take that for testing16:55
ricmmthat sounds good?16:55
anders3408ogra: mobile signal such as 3g is working :D16:56
ograwow16:56
anders3408just didnt read that pin code should be disabled :)16:56
ograawe_, ^^^ our first port where 3G works OOTB16:56
anders3408ogra:  not sure if this did it : https://bitbucket.org/anders3408/ubuntu_device_oppo_find5/commits/9036bcb42934aa14088c8f35e5a3f3391e0a121816:57
tedgbfiller, description done: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/URLDispatcher16:58
wazdracould you help me please ? I'd really like to join the Ubuntu Touch community, but I can't even get it on my phone :3 I'd just like to know why my phone isn't found in recoverymode...16:59
bfillertedg: great, thanks. ricmm ^^^^^^16:59
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anders3408ogra:  can go on internet, but cant send sms ? send buttom is greyied out :) ?17:00
bfillerrenato, salem_ , boiko : take a look at this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/URLDispatcher. Do we need to add more schemes to support contacts and messaging app?17:00
tedgbfiller, I'm going to go to lunch right now.  Ping me if you guys need anything added and I'll work on it when I get back.17:02
bfillersame17:02
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wazdracould you at least tell me if there's a support chat i could go to ? on the ubuntu wiki it's said that's here but i see u're working on it (and btw gl guys :) )17:05
plarsasac: slightly better pass rates now on http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/touch_ro/17:06
salem_bfiller_afk, probably yes.17:06
cjwatson17:55 <cjwatson> Laney: but you'd also need to measure user-data, which is in whichever XDG directory it is17:06
cjwatsonsorry, internet connection very bouncy today17:06
drachensunogra: did you see my question about adb not binding? I'm really out of ideas and hoping someone has seen something like it17:07
wazdradrachensun : i have, that's why i'm here x)17:07
asacplars: why do we get more than 6 failures on mako?17:07
Laneycjwatson: what is user-data?17:08
Laneyis that other things saved by applications?17:08
plarsballoons: mako had one extra failure for calendar17:08
plarsasac: ^17:08
drachensunwazdra: You getting the bind error? I thought you couldn't see anything on the device17:08
cwayne1cjwatson: hi, im curious as to what should happen if a user tries to install (and/or update) a click pkg that is already installed in /custom/click17:08
asacplars: goodie17:08
plarsasac: also there was a systemsettle-after failure on calculator for mako - I pointed out to Saviq earlier17:08
cjwatsonLaney: right17:08
asacplars: record and retry17:08
plarsasac: unity8 was chewing up the cpu after17:08
asacas usual17:08
plarsright17:08
roadmrhey folks! I have an application that at the moment depends on ubuntu-sdk, but I'd like to trim down the dependencies. Is there maybe an ubuntu-touch-runtime metapackage I can depend on instead? failing that, which packages should my application depend on, runtime-wise?17:08
wazdraI can,but only in "regular mode"17:08
asacogra: popey: i believe we want a final smoke and then push that image17:09
wazdradrachensun : It works when my device isn't in recovery17:09
cjwatsoncwayne1: the user-installed version will be unpacked under /opt/click.ubuntu.com/ and will shadow the custom version; if the user-installed version is removed, the custom version will pop back up17:09
asacogra: popey: 5517:09
asacogra: we wait for a few more INPRPOSED17:09
asaccheck the landing plan17:09
asacthen we can kick a new one17:10
cjwatsonroadmr: a click package?17:10
ograasac, are you aware that this will totally trash our statistics !?!17:10
cwayne1cjwatson: hm, ok so this will allow us to have updates for carrier's pre-installed apps then from the click store (or whatever its called)17:10
cjwatsoncwayne1: right, should do17:10
ograasac, rwo in a day ... tsk17:10
ogra*two17:10
roadmrcjwatson: nope, it's a plain .deb17:10
drachensunwazdra: I see so you are getting the "cannot bind 'tcp:5037'" as well when running in recovery?17:10
cjwatsonroadmr: well, there's the ubuntu-touch metapackage, which is the runtime one17:11
balloonsplars, ack. oSoMoN and myself are looking at calendar. it has a weird timeout issue17:11
plarsballoons: specifically with that new_event test? or with all of them?17:11
wazdradrachensun : oh, no, sorry, thought u were just talking about "binding" the device on the computer xD I'm kinda new on the adb scene17:12
balloonsplars, when run as a group they fail. When run individually they pass. It seems one of the tests doesn't like to close properly and sits for a several mins before allowing the tests to continue. The guess is the shell is locking and therefore all further input is ignored17:12
asacogra: almost... the other image was the one we started yesterday afaik17:13
asacogra: like the one we will kick off now will be released tomorrow morning17:13
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balloonsplars, the monthview tests are where the failures occur, but the new_event_test is the suspect test :-)17:13
plarsballoons: could be, we saw unity8 eating up the cpu after the calculator tests on mako one time today17:13
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ograasac, 55 is good on maguro17:14
popeyasac: flashing17:14
roadmrcjwatson: I see ubuntu-touch-meta, I'll give that one a try, thanks!17:18
wazdrawell, i guess u won't help me. bye17:22
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anders3408ogra: wifi fixed to :)17:31
oSoMoNballoons: the fix in autopilot doesn’t seem to improve things17:32
ogranice !17:32
oSoMoNballoons: I’m still seeing the first test in the suite hang indefinitely17:32
anders3408now i need apparmor17:32
thomioSoMoN: there are no fixes landed for tests hanging17:32
balloonsoSoMoN, it was only an outside shot17:32
thomioSoMoN: what test hangs, and why?17:32
oSoMoNthomi: the first test in the calendar_app suite hangs forever at the very end of its run17:33
plarsasac: http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/touch_ro/ - better, actually did even better than maguro this time on calendar17:34
plarsasac: calendar has never passed 100% as far as I can remember though - I don't think this is something to block on17:35
plarsballoons: you might be interested in http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/image/4336/calendar-app-autopilot/ though - this time, new_event was the *only* one to fail17:35
plarsoSoMoN too: ^17:36
balloonsoO17:38
nerochiaroasac: i keep running tests and they keep succeeding17:43
nerochiaroasac: 30 runs or so so far17:43
asacnerochiaro: mako?17:43
mterryasac, so the unity8-side of the unlock script can work now in trunk.  If you have that, and have installed unity-greeter-session-broadcast, try this:   sudo dbus-send --print-reply --system --dest=com.canonical.Unity.Greeter.Broadcast /com/canonical/Unity/Greeter/Broadcast com.canonical.Unity.Greeter.Broadcast.RequestHomeShown string:phablet17:44
nerochiaroasac: maguro17:45
asacnerochiaro: i assume it is about rebooting in betrween that then causes those issues?17:45
asacnerochiaro: do you see the test that failed that i showed you? maybe you can take a look at that and can spot where the timing/race might kick in there?17:45
anders3408to disable apparmor, is it correct just to add apparamor=0 into BOARD_KERNEL_CMDLINE ?17:46
nerochiaroasac: maybe it's the rebooting. can you paste again the failure ?17:47
asacnerochiaro: check the backlog i dont have it open anymore i think17:47
asacotherwise just wait17:47
asacwe will put out a list of bad guys17:48
asacsometimes next week17:48
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nerochiaroasac: i am about to EOD for today and i don't work until next monday. so that's actually a good option17:48
asacnerochiaro: ok17:49
asacnerochiaro: next week priority will be higher though :)... but guess thats life17:49
mhr3ogra, ping?17:51
pmcgowanasac, what test failure was that? need someone to pick it up?17:52
asacpmcgowan: general flakiness of notes app17:53
mhr3ogra, if you have a moment could you merge lp:~mhr3/+junk/more-scope-overrides to the ubuntu-settings branch?17:53
asacits different tests, but every day we have to give back at least.17:53
asacand notes is always there17:53
asacpmcgowan: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/saucy-touch_ro-mako-smoke-notes-app-autopilot/17:54
asacthats the flakiness17:54
asacfails 50%17:54
asaclots of other apps have close to 10017:54
asacpmcgowan: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/saucy-touch_ro-mako-smoke-notes-app-autopilot/99/console thats the one i pointed at earlier today17:55
asacit has been retried and went green since then17:55
pmcgowanasac, ok17:55
nerochiaroasac: i can probably put it at the top of my list next week. however if you can find someone else in the meantime that can look at it, that would be idea. I think om26er is a good candidate17:55
nerochiaroasac: and has a mako as well, IIRC17:55
asacnerochiaro: i will not actively try to find someone17:56
asaci am just escalating :)17:56
nerochiaroom26er: ping17:56
asacbut not this week anymore17:56
nerochiaroasac: let's see if i can delegate then :)17:56
nerochiaroasac: if not i'll be on it next week17:57
om26ernerochiaro, on a hangout, few miunutes please17:57
nerochiaroom26er: no worries. ping me later when you're free17:57
pmcgowanasac, which build on the dashboard can I look at to see the failures, I either see 100% or lots of apps getting 018:00
asacpmcgowan: the dashboard will not show retries18:00
asacpmcgowan: i showed you the jenkins URL for just the notes job18:00
asacpmcgowan: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/saucy-touch_ro-mako-smoke-notes-app-autopilot/18:00
asacthat one has the retries still in18:00
asacjust not nicely parsed18:00
pmcgowanyeah not parseable much18:01
asacit is for those that know autopilot :_)18:01
pmcgowanasac, does it not correlate to something on the dash?18:01
pmcgowanseems once a test fails they all fail18:01
pmcgowanwhich is quite odd, was trying to validate18:01
asacpmcgowan: that one had just 1 failure18:01
pmcgowanasac, I see got it18:02
asacpmcgowan: so there are build artifacts18:02
asacpmcgowan: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/saucy-touch_ro-mako-smoke-notes-app-autopilot/99/18:02
asaci think there should be a json that has the info nicely parsed18:02
asaci think its the utah.yaml18:03
asacplars: ^^ how to manually extract the results from a job that was retried? just getting the utah.yaml?18:03
asachttps://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/saucy-touch_ro-mako-smoke-notes-app-autopilot/99/artifact/clientlogs/18:03
asac?18:03
plarsasac: yes, the yaml has the results18:03
asacpmcgowan: so yeah. best format you will find is in the .yaml... and yes, could be better18:04
asacpmcgowan: i havent checked the above. was just a failure i saw after complaining :)18:04
popeyasac: not a regression but still getting the network routing issue18:04
asac(today i had four retries without succees and was about to give up publishing notes) ... i filed a bug as well.18:04
pmcgowanasac, are most of the app tests pretty consistent now other than notes?18:04
asacpmcgowan: not all, but many apps are pretty solid, yes18:05
asacotherwise i wouldnt have pointed to it18:05
asacwe will do some statistics hopefully next week. this one just became painful today18:05
pmcgowanasac, thats fine just trying to understand18:05
asacpmcgowan: might also be just a percception18:05
asacplars will know for sure...18:06
pmcgowanasac, if other apps also show occasional failures, I would look to something systemic18:06
asacbut let us get hard data18:06
pmcgowanthey should never fail then pass on rerun18:06
asacpmcgowan: the systematic flaw is that we do asynchronous UI testing... so we end up fiddling with timeouts and races etc.18:06
asacafaik its a big problem in the software world ... this UI testing. google tries to invent something more synchronous from what i heard18:06
asacbut until then we should invest in tweaking until its robust enough at least18:07
pmcgowanstill not comfortable chalking it up to timing, should be more deterministic given the approach18:07
pmcgowansomething is changing in the environment18:07
popeyasac: image looks good on mako18:08
asacnicey18:08
asacpmcgowan: its sometimes too fast18:08
asacpmcgowan: i have seen tests doing this:18:08
asac 1. click button18:08
asac 2. check that its pressed18:09
asac 3. wait till its unpressed18:09
asac-> now 2. fails when the button bounces back before we hit 2.18:09
asace.g. we are already unpressed18:09
asac... and yes, could be done better by writing tests that listen for events rather than pollling.... but that will make the test code harder/more unnatural to write18:09
pmcgowanasac, understood18:10
asaci am sure thomi and friends have thought about that and will improve things18:10
thomiasac: you shouldn't need to write step 2 at all. If test suites are doing that they shouldn't be.18:11
mohbarakatwill galaxy ace get ubuntu?18:15
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boikobfiller: about the URL, we need message:// $(number) to send a message to one given number18:30
boikobfiller: and for contacts, we need contact://$(contactid) to show the contact details for a contact18:31
boikobfiller: and another one to create a new contact from a given phone number, not sure how this one would look like though18:31
boikorenato: ^18:31
anders3408asac: ive disabled apparmor by adding appararmor=0 to BOARD_KERNEL_CMDLINE and can now "install" an click app, but after its done and i tries to Open it or pin it to launcher , it doesnt start and doesnt show on launcher, if i then close the click app by the arrow, and opens it again, its not installed18:32
renatoboiko, bfiller, I have implemented a new URI handler  syntax, (the old one still working)18:33
anders3408/home/phablet/.cache/unity-scope-click.log ends up by saying DEBUG: click-scope.vala:161: action started: pin_to_launcher and then DEBUG: click-scope.vala:161: action started: (null)18:33
renatoboiko, bfiller : you should use addressbook://contact?id=<contact-id>18:33
renatoor addressbook://edit?id=<contact-id>&phone=<phone-number>18:34
renatoto add a new phone number18:34
asacanders3408: was that an answer to a question i had? or a question/request for help?18:34
renatoboiko, I set you the MR yesterday :D18:34
bfillerrenato: what about to create a new contact?18:34
JHOSMANI have a simple question, as I can create Dual Boot Android/UbuntuTouch on a Nexus?18:34
renatobfiller, addressbook://create?phone=<phone-number>18:35
anders3408ahh sorry :) asac :)18:35
renatobfiller, boiko https://code.launchpad.net/~renatofilho/address-book-app/fix-1226378/+merge/18617618:35
boikorenato: yeah, let me review that one18:35
renatobfiller, the valid url is:18:35
renato  << "[addressbook://addphone?id=<contact-id>&phone=<phone-number>"18:35
renato17+             << "[addressbook://contact?id=<contact-id>"18:35
renato18+             << "[addressbook://create?phone=<phone-number>"18:35
bfillerrenato: thanks, I'll send these to tedg to add to url handler as well as the others18:37
tedgrenato, How specific do you want me to be?  We're using regex's so I can look for the prefix, or if you want filter out things like appropriate phone numbers.18:39
tedgrenato, Also, it seems like "create://" is a bit vague...18:39
bfillertedg: can you just pass anything after addressbook:// directly to the app? let the app worry about filtering it18:44
tedgbfiller, Yes, totally an option.18:44
tedgbfiller, Just we also can protect a bit if needed.18:45
bfillertedg: lets just do that, then it allows us to add other actions as need be18:45
bfillertedg: same for messaging://18:45
bfillertedg: sorry, meant message:// -> messaging-app18:46
tedgK18:46
cwayne1tedg: will url-dispather work with Qt.openUrlExternally? or just openUrl?18:47
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bfillercwayne: that is a question for ricmm18:47
bfillercwayne:  are those 2 different functions?18:47
cwaynebfiller: im not sure, i thought we were supposed to use openURLExternally, but the wiki says just openUrl18:48
bfillercwayne: I only see openUrl() in the doc http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtgui/qdesktopservices.html18:48
cwaynebfiller: http://qt-project.org/doc/qt-5.0/qtqml/qml-qt.html#openUrlExternally-method18:50
bfillercwayne: nice, well there is your answer then :)18:50
bfillercwayne: Qt.openUrlExternally() would be the QML call and the C++ call would be QDesktopServices.openUrl(). Both should call same underlying system function18:52
cwaynebfiller: awesome, thanks18:53
pmcgowanbfiller, want to update Ted's wiki page with the QML call?18:56
bfillerpmcgowan: sure18:56
bfillerpmcgowan: done19:02
loolbfiller, renato: Whicih specific autopilot tests would you recommend to test qtpim-opensource-src?19:04
bfillerlool: address-book-app19:06
loolbfiller: ok thanks19:06
bfillerlool: sorry can you post where those debs are again? I'll test as well19:08
loolbfiller: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-unity/+archive/daily-build/+build/5029691 and in ppa:ubuntu-unity/daily-build19:08
bfillerlool: cool, thanks19:08
doanacsergiusens: mind looking at a branch: https://code.launchpad.net/~doanac/phablet-tools/system-image-revision-support/+merge/18618019:09
doanacplars: this was the branch i mentioned earlier ^^19:09
plarsdoanac: cool19:09
tedgbfiller, renato, it looks like there's a contact:// there as well, is that needed?19:16
renatotedg, this is the old uri, used by phone app, I keep this to avoid break the current implementation19:17
tedgrenato, Okay19:18
drachensunlxc-android-conf doesn't run in init and I can't seem to figure out why19:18
drachensunits supposed to wait on cgroup-lite started but I can verify that happened19:19
rfowleris anyone finding that they can't turn off the screen as usual by pressing the power button on maguro?19:19
drachensunwhats a good way to make sure a script is run or a signal is issued, I tried adding a 'pre-start' script with a write to a log and I'm not seeing it19:19
tedgbfiller, renato, look good: https://code.launchpad.net/~ted/url-dispatcher/pim-urls/+merge/18642619:20
loolbfiller: address-book-app is one test, yes?19:21
loolsorry address_book_app19:21
bfillerlool: currently yes, more tests coming soon19:21
loolbfiller: ok, just making sure I hadn't missed some19:22
bfillertedg: looks good, approved19:22
dubstar_04how long should it take to flash boot.img?19:38
cyphermoxdubstar_04: a few seconds at most19:38
cyphermoxboot.img is tiny19:38
dubstar_04I am trying to flash the latest image from: phablet-flash ubuntu-system --channel devel --no-backup19:39
popeyit takes a while to flash19:40
dubstar_04it hangs for ever on boot.img19:40
cyphermoxpopey: boot.img shouldn't, no?19:40
sergiusensdubstar_04, there is no boot.img19:40
cyphermoxdubstar_04: is this via fastboot?19:40
sergiusensat least not one that you can see19:40
popeythe process in general takes a while, I never look at which bit19:40
sergiusenspopey, the xz extraction takes some time19:40
popeymakes sense19:41
ogra"some time" lol19:41
popeyits not like I'm in a hurry19:41
dubstar_04so i boot to the ui of ubuntu phone, plug the phone in and type 'phablet-flash ubuntu-system --channel devel --no-backup' in terminal19:41
popeythere's always tea to be drunk and emails to read19:41
ograit takes the bigger part of a century on maguro19:41
dubstar_04it takes about 20mins to download the lastest build and reboots the phone to fastboot and hangs with downloading 'boot.img'19:42
cyphermoxdubstar_04: anything written on the phone at that time? which device is this?19:42
* sergiusens guesses fastboot is being flaky19:43
sergiusensbottom of the screen should give some indication19:43
dubstar_04its a galaxy nexus 'maguro'? the phone just displays the big android with his chest open and start written in bug letter (is this the fastboot screen?)19:44
ograyes, it is19:44
ogradid that device ever run ubuntu  touch before ?19:44
cyphermoxdubstar_04: there should be some text at the bottom too, with a blue background that might say what is going on, as boot.img is being flashed19:45
dubstar_04yes i am trying to upgrade19:45
cyphermoxotherwise it may be that fastboot doesn't find the device19:45
ogradid you upgrade phablet-tools before ?19:46
ograthere were some important fixes19:46
dubstar_04no text the bottom other than the device stats: fastboot mode, product name - tune...19:46
dubstar_04yes i saw phablet-tools pop up in the software update thats what reminded me to reflash the phone19:47
jukenHi all, is there a .deb for phablet-flash? Or, if I'm already on cyanogenmod, is the a zip I can boot from in recovery on a Galaxy Nexus (Verizon)?19:52
looljuken: phablet-tools is the package name19:52
looljuken: or you can bzr branch lp:phablet-tools19:52
om26ertedg, what does it take for the indicator-datetime to be able to change time/date on touch ?19:53
tedgom26er, ?  I don't think that it does on touch.  I think that's a settings thing.19:54
om26ertedg, ah so you mean we clicking on those icons is supposed to take to settings, hmm19:55
om26ers/icons/menu items19:55
tedgom26er, To the apps I believe actually.19:55
tedgcharles_, ^19:55
dubstar_04_if i use:  phablet-flash cdimage-touch --wipe it works!19:56
dubstar_04_how to i swap to the ubuntu-system builds?19:56
ographablet-flash ubuntu-system19:56
dubstar_04_ogra: that doesnt seem to work here. it gets stuck at the fastboot screen19:57
ograwell, it surely works on my maguro19:57
dubstar_04_once its finished installing i will try it again19:58
ograasac, what was the final conclusion on #55 ? i didnt see response from popey on it19:59
popeyogra: i said good20:00
ograoh, thne i should probably publish it :)20:00
popeyyay20:00
* ogra waits for system-image to be done ... it holds the lock for the new build atm20:00
popey19:08:30 < popey> asac: image looks good on mako20:00
popeyfor thr record ☻20:00
ograoh, ok20:00
rickspencer3jdstrand, I tried running an app on my phone this morning that crashed20:01
rickspencer3I was wondering if it tried to do something naughty and containment stop it20:01
rickspencer3is there a log or something I can check for that kind of thing?20:01
cjwatsonasac: tests listen for events rather than polling> sounds like that wants a coroutine style of code, a bit like twisted's defer.inlineCallbacks20:07
om26erawe_, I tried to reproduce the no OSD bug on maguro and couldn't reproduce that as well. So yes it seems to be only happening on mako20:11
awe_om26er, akc20:12
bfillersergiusens: just updated my phone and adb doesn't work anymore. how to fix? phone shows up on my desktop via mtp but can't adb anymore20:12
awe_s/akc/ack/20:12
awe_bfiller, hmmm... I just flashed both phone with cdimage-touch and can use adb on both20:12
bfillerawe_: I updated from daily-build ppa20:13
awe_om26er, I'm going to try and get a test deb for the gprs bug before my end-of-day20:13
bfillernot sure how to reflash even without adb20:13
awe_ahhhh... no PPAs for me.  ;)-20:13
awe_yea, sounds pretty borked20:13
awe_cyphermox, ^^20:13
om26erawe_, ok20:13
cyphermoxawe_: not sure what to say, adb should be there, and mtp certainly doesn't remove it20:14
om26erbfiller, btw we need to have a way to force apps to the foreground, for example the dialer-app, once you dial a number there should be no way to move that app to the background20:14
cyphermoxbfiller: flashed which image?20:14
om26ere.g.  bug 122701820:14
ubot5bug 1227018 in address-book-app (Ubuntu) "Call happens in the background without UI for user to manage" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122701820:14
cyphermoxI'll reflash mine to try to reproduce20:14
ChickenCutlassbfiller, you can reflash by entering recovery manually20:15
ChickenCutlassbfiller, get into it by pressing power and vol down20:15
bfillercyphermox: I did a lot of shit to mine20:15
ChickenCutlassthen choose recovery20:15
bfillercyphermox: yesterday's system image + updates today from daily build ppa20:16
cyphermoxbfiller: ok... I'll test to make sure20:16
bfillernot sancitoned20:16
bfillerChickenCutlass: ack20:16
jukenSo I get the "Device detected as toro" but then "Unsupported device, autodetect fails device". I don't mind loading the .zip onto the phone itself and installing from recovery, just want to make sure I grab the proper image for a Samsung Galaxy Nexus (Verizon).20:25
asacogra: 55 was awesome, no?20:26
asacgo20:26
asacyou know the rules20:26
asac:)20:26
ograasac, all done :)20:27
loolpromoted?20:27
ograjust downloading OTA here20:27
ograyeah20:27
anders3408ogra: wifi fixed also on find5 :)20:27
jdstrandrickspencer3: grep DEN /var/log/syslog20:27
ograanders3408, yeah, i saw above, let mhall119 know !20:28
asacogra: popey: awesome. announcing would be nice too then20:28
rickspencer3thanks jdstrand20:28
ograpopey, can you do the avenger dance ?20:28
jdstrandnp20:28
loolcool, /me reflashes erasing all of today's debugging stuff20:28
asacogra: next one will be more interesting: http://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/20130918.1.changes20:28
cyphermoxrickspencer3: I may have something ready if you're willing to test a fix for NM20:29
ograyeah20:29
anders3408mhall119:  wifi is fixed :) and 3g is working. You just need to remove pin code before flashing ubuntu touch :) i havent uploaded the build with working wifi yet touhg20:29
ograall apps and indicators20:29
asacand mediascanner crash fix :)20:29
rickspencer3cyphermox, anything I can do to help20:29
ograthat should help the guys with testing the gstreamer stuff20:29
asachmm. wonder why i see a new lxc20:29
asaceven though i dont know20:29
ograasac, because we use it20:30
asacand why didnt i know about an update?20:30
ogradunno, its seeded in server20:30
popeyogra: sure20:30
asacogra: aha20:30
asacmakes sense20:30
anders3408ogra: you know something about hw buttons  ? suchs as pwr and volume buttons ?20:30
popeyogra: is it live?20:30
ograasac, we pull it in via a dep20:30
* asac happy20:30
cyphermoxrickspencer3: I'll just run the test script a few times first, but I'll upload to my people.u.c folder in a few minutes for testing20:30
rickspencer3cyphermox, the only thing is, I am on RO images20:30
rickspencer3doubt I can help you :(20:31
ograpopey, no. preinstalled, we dont have live images for phones yet20:31
ograpopey, :p20:31
cyphermoxrickspencer3: ah, nah, that needs readwrite20:31
popeywakka wakka20:31
ograpopey, yeah, it is indeed :)20:31
asacrickspencer3: you can make it writable, but have to reflash after to go back to the clean world20:31
popeycyphermox: i can help, i have two phones20:31
rickspencer3asac, yeah, I'd prefer to not to jump through those hoops20:31
rickspencer3popey, it requires actually leaving the house to test :) just fair warning :)20:32
popeyWAT!20:32
rickspencer3I know, right!20:32
popeyI'm not paid for that kind of danger!20:32
popeyI'll have to walk ages too, my wifi reaches quite a distance :D20:32
cyphermoxpopey: ah, cool20:32
cyphermoxpopey: I'll publish it now, hold on20:33
popeyor I could just you know, power down the access point and sit here in my jimmys20:33
popeyok20:33
rickspencer3jdstrand, what do you make of this? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6125530/20:33
asacpopey: i think you have have to go out and in to roam :)... alternatively, you could do R&D and find a low cost way to simulate that at home.20:33
asacpopey: right that was the idea20:33
rickspencer3I used pkcon install-local, fwiw20:33
rickspencer3popey, yeah, I think it requires actually walking around town20:34
popeygolly, lots of changes here20:34
popeyhttp://people.canonical.com/~ogra/touch-image-stats/20130918.1.changes20:34
Saviqasac, so, if we wanted to release unity8 now, what do I do?20:34
popeyogra: thats the right changelog innit?20:34
asacSaviq: you want to?20:34
rickspencer3popey, when folks tried it in an office, it did't reliably trigger the bug20:34
popeyyeah yeah20:34
popeyI know your game mister20:34
ograpopey, now is the time to get an electric miniature garden train ! ... let it go through the cats door and you have your test setup20:34
Saviqasac, yes, there's a few fixes that we'd like to release20:34
ograpopey, nope, 18 ... not 18.120:34
popeyk20:34
asacSaviq: put it in the landing pipeline spread in the "ask" sheet at the end, give clear info about what components to land etc.20:35
cyphermoxpopey: http://people.ubuntu.com/~mathieu-tl/network-manager/20:35
Saviqasac, don't have edit rights20:35
asacSaviq: also make clear where the code is and if the code is ready in trunk etc.20:35
asacSaviq: you should... one sec20:35
ogram20:36
asacSaviq: happy landing20:36
cyphermoxpopey: so yeah, need to do some form of transition between wifi and 3G, it usually helps ;)20:36
popeykk20:36
asacSaviq: also #ubuntu-ci-eng is your friend20:36
ograSaviq, i have put mhr3's request for the settings changes put on there already, in case you have that on your list20:36
bryanageeHey all20:37
bryanageenewb here--just flashed my nexus 420:37
popeywelcome welcome bryanagee20:37
bryanageeFor some reason, /var/cache/apt is ro... is that supposed to be?20:38
popeyyes20:38
cjohnstonbryanagee: if you uses the ubuntu-system, yes20:38
bryanageeSo no apt-get install--no ssh?20:39
popeythe whole root filesystem (with some exceptions) is read only20:39
popeyssh is installed by default now I believe20:39
asacsergiusens: your phablet-tools ask #32 was in?20:39
popeybryanagee: service ssh start20:39
bryanageeHm... I get the "connection refused"20:39
bryanageeAhhh20:39
popeyneat huh?20:40
asacogra: your mtp fixes are good?20:41
* asac closes that ask20:41
ograyeah20:41
awe_ogra, are your fixes staged ( ie. in a PPA )?20:42
asacogra: "fix issue with the boot process where upstart-local-bridge does not work (and thus we cant talk to the container processes) requirement for other fixes"20:42
asacthat landed as well?20:42
ograawe_, nope, and which ones exactly ?20:42
awe_ogra, bfiller was having problems with adb being broken earlier due to something with mtp20:42
bryanageeunrecognized service; I started it with the /etc/init.d script instead20:42
ograasac, no, that didnt land20:42
asacogra: but i saw a lxc-android again20:42
asacthat was the only ask for that20:42
asachmm20:42
ograawe_, after dist upgrading a readonly image he had made RW20:42
awe_ah, ok20:43
bfillerogra: awe_ : just did a phablet-flash cdimage-touch and having same issue with adb not working. will try it again with --wipe first20:44
asacogra: is ubuntu-touch-session coming back tomorrow?20:44
ograhmm, that should work ...20:44
ograasac, yeah20:44
ograasac, oh, you mean the lightdm stuff ... no20:45
ograasac, i think mterry decided to focus on making it work fine with Mir20:45
ograasac, which means it can only land after the switch to Mir20:45
asacmterry: hey ... so. i think there is a chance that we might want to keep the SF option if maguro performacne doesnt increase20:46
asacat least i wouldnt rule that out20:46
mterryasac, ick20:46
asacmterry: nothing to do for now20:46
asacjust saying :)20:46
mterryasac, did you see my message earlier about unlocking?  Let me know if that command line doesn't work for you20:47
* ogra wonders how one measures performance of Mir on maguro ... 20:47
ografor me it never keeps running long enough to measure anything20:47
asacmterry: hmm. damn i didnt copy it out :)20:47
asacmterry: can you send that to plars and doanac for now?20:47
asacthey wont loose it :)20:47
asacogra: lets wait. i think folks will look at maguro performance in time for release20:48
asaci am optimisitc :)20:48
asacbut ... SF is so damn fast in recent days.20:48
ograheh20:48
asacnot sure what happened20:48
anders3408anyone knowing anything about power button :( ?20:48
asacthe phone feels like on fire :-P20:48
ograyeah, well, Mir is ok on the mako ... if it doesnt crash or flicker20:48
ograbut there is a lot to fix on the maguro20:49
anders3408or eventually none click apps working. ? apparamor is diasbled and the apparmor switch is disabled to20:49
mterryplars, doanac: So...  ya'll have been looking for a script to unlock the greeter?  Install unity-greeter-session-broadcast, make sure you are running unity8 trunk, and then the following command should do the trick: sudo dbus-send --print-reply --system --dest=com.canonical.Unity.Greeter.Broadcast /com/canonical/Unity/Greeter/Broadcast com.canonical.Unity.Greeter.Broadcast.RequestHomeShown string:phablet20:49
plarsmterry: so the version of unity8 in the latest image isn't new enough?20:49
mterryplars, this landed today, so probably not20:50
doanacthat's cool20:50
ograyeah, Saviq is just submitting todays changes for inclusion i think20:50
doanacplars: i'm thinking it might be nice to try and hook this logic into an autopilot helper function20:51
plarsdoanac: +120:51
doanacplars: i suspect thomi might not like my proposed solution, but I'll give it a shot to start the dialog20:52
bryanageeIs it still possible to import Google contacts? The instructions in github use a missing command (ubuntu_chroot)20:52
iBotPeachesanders3408: nope, now I am20:55
thomidoanac: hmmmm?20:55
anders3408iBotPeaches:  wifi fixed, 3g fixed, can send sms, not do call yet20:56
doanacthomi: so we now have a nice easy way to unlock the homescreen before an autopilot test runs20:56
iBotPeachesvery nice20:56
doanacmy idea is some sort of utility function added to autopilot that could be called from a test's setup method20:56
doanacnot sure if you are going to want that in the autopilot repo though20:56
doanacor if you think it should be put somewhere else20:57
anders3408well wifi only works if i insmod the module manually , it doesnt pick the line up in ramdisk ... at least it dont do anything :)20:57
thomidoanac: so my question is: SHould a test suite have to know/care about hwo to unlock the shell it's running inside? To my mind, that is part of the test runner responsibility... so it shoul deither go in autopilot, or somewhere else.20:58
thomiIf we put it in autopilot, we need a nice way of turning it on and off. not sure if you have any thoughts on this...20:58
iBotPeachesanders3408: yeah, I wonder what is causing half the system to auto not init itself20:58
anders3408well most important is wtf pwr button doesnt work , and why rebooting fail so hard20:59
doanacthomi: i might be too far from a test writer's perspective, but it seems like they should be the one that knows to me.20:59
thomidoanac: but they won't always be runing under the shell20:59
thomidoanac: or they might be running under a different shell20:59
thomidoanac: or the shell greeter might be locked in an unexpected way20:59
thomidoanac: I think we need to be careful about separating concerns here, is what I'm saying :)21:00
doanacthomi: i agree. i don't really care where it goes. I just want to make sure it goes somewhere. so that when people run "phablet-test-run <your app>" it works21:00
doanacphablet-test-run doesn't seem like the right place, because not all tests  need to do the unlock21:01
thomidoanac: right, so maybe it goes in autopilot, but in the test runner21:02
popeycyphermox: so I'm going walkabout, any particular test cases you want me to do?21:02
thomirather than the test code21:02
thomiautopilot run --unlock-greeter test.id.here21:03
thomior something better :)21:03
doanacthomi: yeah. i'm guessing the next complaint will be that people won't know if they need to specify that option or not21:04
doanacNOTE: its not my complaint. just my guess given the input i've been given :)21:04
thomidoanac: I understand that point of view, I just think it's wrong :)21:05
doanaci sort of do also21:05
thomiwell, it sounds like we're largely in agreement anyway21:05
thomihowever, it's pretty unlikely that this will land before thursday21:05
thomiso.... I'm not sure where that leaves me21:05
thomiat least phablet-test-run isn't used for the desktop...21:05
doanacthomi: this is high enough, that i'll probably need to drop what I'm doing and do something on it21:06
doanaci just don't know what i can do that's going to make people happy.21:06
thomiIs it really that big a deal? You have to unlock the screen. deal with it.21:07
doanacasac: are you happy with an unlock solution that works as thomi described? ie:21:07
* thomi shrugs21:07
doanacchange autopilot to support: autopilot run --unlock-greeter test.id.here21:07
doanacthen update phablet-test-run to also have an option for "--unlock"21:07
thomidoanac: the option won't be that exactly... but close enough21:08
asacdoanac: using mterry's solution?21:09
doanacasac: yes21:09
thomibut lets not shell out to dbus-send - just connect to dbus natively21:10
doanacthomi: correct21:10
thomiright21:10
asaci dont like it21:10
asac:)21:10
asacbut maybe thats because i dont have the complete story21:10
asaci certainly want that app tests automatically do the right thing21:10
asacwithout knowing whcih commmand line to use21:11
thomiasac: please define "right thing"21:11
rickspencer3popey, you should be able to go outside, walk a block or two, and have 3g21:11
popeyok21:11
* popey ventures into the big blue room21:11
rickspencer3(without having to restart network manager)21:11
rickspencer3popey, be careful21:11
rickspencer3there are people out htere21:11
rickspencer3they won't all have Ubuntu Touch phones21:12
popeyHeathens!21:12
asacthomi: i have no idea bout the techology, but the test writer should be able to set if he requires the screen unlocked or not21:12
asacdoesnt sound like an unreasonable assumption21:12
thomidoanac: asac: actually, here's a better idea: land it in the UI toolkit base test case class - that way you avoid FF issues, *and* you can check to see what kind of environment you're in21:12
asacso first. i dont want to avoid anything21:13
thomiasac: but that changes from run to run.21:13
asaci want to do the right solution :)21:13
asacso ignore FF for now21:13
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thomiasac: I can't ignore FF for autopilot - it's used on the desktop. Anyway, I don't think that's the right place to land this21:13
asacthomi: not sure what the UI Toolkit Base Test Class is21:13
asacthomi: is that the class all our app tests derive from?21:13
thomiasac: yes, at least almost all of them. not unity8, but you don't want this for unity8 anyway21:14
asaci dont want to pass -n to unity8 either21:14
asacthomi: so my feel is that i want to always use -n21:14
asacand in case of an app test we start unity8 and the app after21:15
asacwith the screen unlocked21:15
thomiasac: remind me: -n stops the shell?21:15
asacthomi: right. always stop shell first21:15
asacregardless of unity8 or app21:15
thomiasac: that would work. So... you already ahve a solution, and the right place to land it... seems to me anyway21:15
doanacthomi: just doing a cursory glance. friends-app and gallery_app  seems to just extend AutopilotTestCase which would need updating right?21:15
thomidoanac: yes.21:15
asacthomi: not sure about the right place21:15
asacthomi: you own the test frameworks21:16
asacso please find the right place and make it happen21:16
asacyou as in QA21:16
thomidoanac: they should all derive from the ui toolit class, otherwise they can't use the ui toolit helper methods21:16
asacall i am bloody looking for is phablet-test-run that always does the right thing21:17
asaci believ that measns its always kill shell first21:17
doanacthomi: do you know of a test that does extend the ui toolkit class? I'm struggling to find one?21:17
asacthen do the right thing based on what the test author needs for testing21:17
thomidoanac: dropping-letters does,21:17
asacwhat i know is that we dont want to maintain a list of static mappings that make phablet-test-run guess what autopilot options to use for each test :)21:17
asacthats all from me21:17
thomidoanac: I was told they all do21:17
doanacthomi: so far, none of them do (not looking at click tests though)21:18
thomidoanac: well, that's going to break them bigtime21:18
thomithat's something for elopio I think21:18
doanacthomi: yeah - not a single app we currently test (ie all non-click) extend UbuntuUiToolkitTestCase21:20
doanacso this is turning into a pain21:20
doanaci'll try and see if I can hack one of the tests to do this and then give elopio some guidance21:21
asacright. thge other request is: please work against for the reality :)21:21
asac:)21:21
asacs/against//21:21
doanacasac: i have some notion of the right thing to do. its just going to be a matter of hearding cats21:21
elopiodoanac: we haven't yet merged the base class for all the apps to use.21:22
StephenGregoryHi there. Is it possible to port Ubuntu Touch to a device using just Android as a base? (without Cyangenmod)21:22
doanacelopio: can you do that and also add a utility to unlock the greeter as mterry described above?21:22
elopioscrolling back...21:23
doanacbasically: sudo dbus-send --print-reply --system --dest=com.canonical.Unity.Greeter.Broadcast /com/canonical/Unity/Greeter/Broadcast com.canonical.Unity.Greeter.Broadcast.RequestHomeShown string:phablet21:23
popeycyphermox: rickspencer3 worked a treat21:23
doanacmterry: does this really have to be run as root?21:23
elopiodoanac: to unlock the greeter, om26er has just told me we are using a script on the upstream merger.21:23
rickspencer3\o/21:24
rickspencer3popey, that's great news21:24
popeyWalked down the road doing mtr 8.8.8.8, no packet loss21:24
doanacelopio: we are trying to stop doing that and have the tests do it themselves21:24
popeyas soon as I got home it flipped back to wifi21:24
asacpopey: now back and forth :)21:24
asac20 times21:24
popeyhaha21:24
elopiodoanac: ah, ok. So, I can do parts of that.21:24
rickspencer3lol21:24
asacwe need stability in this thing21:24
asacotherwise i am lost at the airport :)21:24
asachehe21:24
om26erdoanac, elopio doing that in tests is problematic and will make things alot slow for everyone running tests locally21:24
doanacom26er: why so?21:25
popeyoh man21:25
elopiodoanac: I can add that to the base test case that we will use on the template from qtcreator.21:25
popeyI took my other phone with me and took photos of the first one ㋛21:25
doanacdid you see mterry's new command? it seems lightweight?21:25
elopiobut then all the apps need to be updated to use that base test case.21:25
popeyand I am now taking the pictures off the phone via mtp21:25
popeythis is all awesome21:25
rickspencer3lol21:25
popeya double whammy of greatness from cyphermox21:25
om26erdoanac, each time I run a testsuite on my phone, it will restart unity8 and then run the test. lets say I am debugging a failing test it will takes ages for me to run that test again and again21:25
doanacom26er: the new method doesn't require all of that. i don't think21:26
rickspencer3popey, is it "Amazing!"21:26
rickspencer3?21:26
* rickspencer3 needs to watch less Archer21:27
om26erdoanac, we don't have unity8 running in testability method so every method would need to restart it in testability mode first21:27
doanacom26er: look at the new mechanism mterry is providing: sudo dbus-send --print-reply --system --dest=com.canonical.Unity.Greeter.Broadcast /com/canonical/Unity/Greeter/Broadcast com.canonical.Unity.Greeter.Broadcast.RequestHomeShown string:phablet21:27
ograhire an intern for unlocking ... just expense it21:27
ogra:)21:27
om26eraaah thaaaat21:27
StephenGregoryHi there. Is it possible to port Ubuntu Touch to a device using just Android as a base? (without Cyangenmod)21:27
elopiomterry: do we have a similar mechanism to lock it?21:28
mterryelopio, no21:28
om26erignore me I didn't know that :)21:28
doanacmterry: does this really have to run as root?21:28
popeyi need to watch more archer21:28
doanacthat sort of presents a problem since autopilot must run as "phablet"21:28
elopiomterry: can we have it? I'll need it to add a self test to the test case.21:28
mterrydoanac, yeah, unity-greeter-session-broadcast has some security lockdown (not just any user can ask to show home screen)21:29
elopio(and then hire an intern to test the self test of the test case :p)21:29
mterryelopio, oh actually..  i bet you could lock it...  by faking a signal from powerd to suspend21:30
mterryer, to turn off display rather21:30
doanacmterry: okay. i guess running is root is okay for now because we have passwordless sudo for phablet21:30
doanacbut this seems like a potential bug in the future21:31
doanacelopio: so this all makes sense now? anything else you need from me? or can I sit and wait for it to land?21:32
mterryelopio, do you know how to send out a DisplayPowerStateChange signal?21:32
mterry(from powerd, for locking the greeter)21:32
elopiomterry: no, I don't know. Please tell me.21:35
mterryelopio, hmm, I was hoping you would know off hand  :)21:36
mterryelopio, let me see21:36
elopiodoanac: so, the base test case is here: https://code.launchpad.net/~elopio/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/base_autopilot_class/+merge/18517021:36
elopioI'm trying to workaround a new behaviour of unity that expects a desktop file.21:36
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elopiodoanac: once we land that branch, I can add the unlock script.21:37
elopiodoanac:  can you sit until tomorrow?21:37
doanacelopio: thanks. sure. please just let me know when its ready so that I can remove the unlock logic out of our smoke test automation repo21:37
elopiodoanac: you will have to wait more for that to happen.21:37
elopiodoanac: once that is on the base test case, we need various people to update their app tests to use it.21:38
elopiothen, we will need to update the template for qtcreator, and then you can remove the magic.21:38
doanack21:38
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AskUbuntuPorting Ubuntu Touch to BeagleBone Black | http://askubuntu.com/q/34725321:53
anders3408elopio or doanac perhaps you are the corret to ask this question, if not then im sorry :) where does ubuntu touch gets the input events from ? like a keyevent  ?21:56
elopioanders3408: that's for thomi. evdev?21:56
anders3408ehm elopio ?   im new to ubuntu touch porting and im not sure what you mean ?21:57
anders3408like keyevents i mean like when i press volume up button21:57
daydoes ubuntu-touch have native/permanent samba support?21:57
elopioanders3408: nevermind, I thought you were talking about autopilot.21:58
elopioso, I don't know :)21:58
anders3408oh sorry :) i didnt make me clear in the first place :)21:59
elopioanders3408: somebody from this channel should be able to help you. If nobody appears, as is kind of late, then askubuntu.21:59
anders3408okay thanks elopio :)22:00
mruegis it possible to run a more recent kernel with ubuntu touch on a galaxy nexus?22:02
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mhall119why don't we ship all online accounts plugins on the phone?22:37
mhall119sergiusens: ogra: ^^22:37
popeythere's additional ones?22:38
popeycan we click-ify them?22:38
popeyoh, no22:38
mhall119no, but they're in the archives and really should be part of the base system22:38
popeyin main?22:39
mhall119that I don't know, probably in Unierse22:39
sergiusensmhall119, just needs to be seeded I guess.22:49
sergiusensthere is no requirement to add them (/me thinks)22:49
mhall119without a way to click-install them, and more click apps coming available, I think we should offer as many of them as we can reasonably support22:51
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anders3408hello mhall119 :) wifi and 3g and sms and bootup without adb commands are now working :)23:02
mhall119they are? awesome!23:03
anders3408yes they are :) you just need to disable sim pin code :)23:03
mhall119well I never had one anyway23:04
anders3408but those input events from pwr button and so on are killing me :)23:04
sergiusensmhall119, can you create an MR?23:05
anders3408mhall119:  you know anything about evdev ? :)23:06
sergiusensplars, is the lack of messaging indicator a known issue still?23:24
plarssergiusens: yes, though I thought I saw a fix for it was scheduled somewhere...23:56
plarssergiusens: hmm, I think it was supposed to be in 56 according to  the pipeline23:57

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