[00:03] any wiki that I can follow a build process? === chriadam|away is now known as chriadam [00:50] So...is there a working alarm yet? === Namidairo`bnc is now known as Namidairo === chihchun_afk is now known as chihchun [02:18] Whoa, there are quite a few people here. === _salem is now known as salem_ === salem_ is now known as _salem [03:02] ADB is getting the following error [03:02] cannot bind 'tcp:5037' [03:02] has anyone seen that? [03:03] Most of the fixes I read online talk about the port being occupied or the loopback being improperly setup, neither one seems likely to me since this all happens on the ubuntu touch armhf part [03:03] which should be setup for it [03:03] I think [03:04] is it possible the Android side of the install is conflicting with it? [03:04] I've tested and I cannot connect with a USB === voytek is now known as gerron1 === gerron1 is now known as ulzo === ulzo is now known as voytek === mfisch` is now known as mfisch === mfisch is now known as Guest10530 [05:34] Will there be a port for the 2013 Nexus 7? [05:40] zsombi: hi! Is the CI still broken for ubuntu-ui-toolkit? === Tassadar_ is now known as Tassadar [05:56] mardy yes it is... [07:11] good morning === deegee__ is now known as drussell [07:30] Hello all, I'm stuck at ADB not starting with the error "cannot bind 'tcp:5037" I'm checked that its run as root, loopback looks to be setup and I'm really not sure what try next or how to investigate further [07:31] I've worked through the other bugs, /system, vendor and /data all looked to be mounted right and I can't see any errors coming from anything else [07:35] drachensun: if it can't bind to port then probably something (another zombied adb?) is running on that port [07:37] popey: I am dumping the output of netstat -a in my init script before it loads to see if anything is on port 5037 and nothing is shown [07:37] popey: is that a good way to check? [07:38] Hi guys. When I can find more detailed manuals for porting Ubuntu Touch? I completed all steps in porting guide, but get only black screen. May be I can read boot logs? ADB doesn't start... [07:39] drachensun: I'd just use "ps aux | grep adb" to see if adb is running [07:39] gangster41: I'm working through the same process, did you go over and following the manual install steps on the install page next? took me a bit to realize that was the next step [07:40] I build and flash CM-part, then flashed sauncy touch image. [07:40] popey: its a real pain, I've got no access but it looks like the system is running, something other than adb seems to die as well because the kernel modules are never loaded [07:41] gangster41: Thats basically where I'm at, now I'm working through bugs, I have a serial console I can see the output on and even though I lack adb yet I can reboot to the recovery, and then use adb to mount and look at log files [07:42] Yep, with working adb it's more simple. [07:42] But it doesn't work for me( [07:45] I think it can't mount data partition, because my kernel hasn't /dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name, like on Desire Z. But changes from w-flo doesn't help too. [07:52] popey: I have just verified there is no other adbd runnning [07:56] who should own /data and /vendor [07:56] my /data is showing system as the owner and group === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away [08:21] ok, I think we are getting close to the time this chat new get real active [08:22] If anyone has any thoughts how to debug the adb cannot bind problem I mentioned above, please let me know, I'll be checking back later as its 4am here and I'm making no progress and I'm totally out of ideas [08:23] thanks [08:51] >:( [08:51] https://bugs.launchpad.net/touch-preview-images/+bug/1226614 ????? [08:51] Ubuntu bug 1226614 in touch-preview-images "RIL/Radio Broken In Ported Xperia Z(Yuga)" [Undecided,New] [08:54] it is strange how bugs reported isnt being look at? it is the top priority to nexus devices ? [09:03] can anyone advise on how to do the following in ubuntu touch: Switch the OSK to the maliit keyboard plugin by default. [09:03] Is this already the default configuration? [09:05] rhuddie: yes, maliit is our keyboard [09:05] iKillCypher: you filed it 18 hours ago. Have you _seen_ how many other bugs there are? [09:06] popey: thanks, just wanted to check. [09:12] well was just wondering [09:14] popey, did you know wifi is broken again? [09:15] dbarth: we have very blurry picture of what you do with webapps [09:15] seems we had mroe landings etc. [09:16] dbarth: we will fix the collateral damage those created on desktop image now and then dont do anything until you tell me what is available and where [09:16] asac: sil2100 and dbarth are discussing on #ubuntu-unity FYI [09:16] didrocks: ok [09:18] asac: ?! [09:19] does anyone know that wifi is broken again [09:19] asac: you mean on the desktop? [09:19] dbarth: you have a landing ask in [09:19] we landed all webapps [09:19] what is the name of the contacts app, popey ? [09:19] yes [09:19] >:( [09:19] so i assume its done [09:19] * iKillCypher beats dbarth [09:19] dbarth: preinstalled click webapps (Twitter, FB, etc.) [09:19] thats done? [09:19] now? [09:19] gema: contacts ☻ [09:19] popey: I have the sneaky feeling it can start calls on its own [09:20] (with what landed in the archive) [09:20] popey: without the dialer [09:20] they're in the store, but i need to check with sergiusens that it took all of them in the click_packages list [09:20] and then it will be done [09:20] gema, it would be odd if it couldnt [09:20] ogra: I just made a call in the background, which I didn't have any control of [09:20] dbarth: can we delist your stuff from the CI system then? [09:20] ogra: the dialer never came up [09:20] popey: thanks [09:20] it seems to come back and we use from app store [09:21] asac: the ones for desktop don't come from any app store [09:21] gema, thats surely a bug, but not with the app behavior ... but rather with proper locking of the phone [09:21] ogra: ok [09:21] gema, at least on android i dont need the dialer if i want to call a contact from the contacts list [09:21] popey: there doesn't seem to be a package called contacts [09:21] not sure how that is on iOS or windows [09:21] asac: which stuff in particular is causing issues? ie you want me to remove? [09:22] webapps-demo? [09:22] gema: contacts-app [09:22] ogra, popey dbarth do you guys know that wifi is broken :( ? how come there isnt any respond on this issue [09:23] popey, gema i thinbk it was renamed to address-book-app [09:23] dbarth: The collateral damage on the desktop image is http://people.canonical.com/~ubuntu-archive/livefs-build-logs/saucy/ubuntu/20130918/livecd-amd64.out [09:23] iKillCypher: "wifi is broken" doesn't fully describe whatever issue you may be having [09:23] (scroll to the end) [09:23] iKillCypher: it works on my nexus 4 for example [09:23] iKillCypher: nope, hang on [09:23] iKillCypher, please check the daily image tests [09:23] cjwatson: i've just been pinged about this one [09:23] daily image has been update since the 16 september [09:23] sil2100 was investigating that too [09:23] cjwatson: we're prep'ing a revert to turn that into a suggest instead [09:24] the webbrowser image breakage [09:24] dbarth: Yes, just giving you the log since there seemed some question here about what the problem was [09:24] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-touch/daily-preinstalled/current/ [09:24] dbarth: Cool [09:24] iKillCypher, the webbrowser tests definitely pass, there is no issue with wlan on the official devices [09:24] saucy-preinstalled-touch-armhf.zip 16-Sep-2013 21:35 299M [09:24] iKillCypher, http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/image/4322/ [09:24] well I cant click it on a ported device. [09:24] iKillCypher, reachable from http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/touch_ro/ [09:24] (last link in the /topic) ☻ === popey changed the topic of #ubuntu-touch to: Ubuntu Touch Support & Discussion | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch | Release notes https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/ReleaseNotes | Porting guide (advanced) https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Porting | File bugs at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+filebug | Under active development! | Nexus Status: http://bit.ly/18kIrhM | Dashboard: http://bit.ly/12AQV53 [09:25] cjwatson: right, investigating and trying to resolve that [09:25] popey, while at it, probably add some "ubuntu-bug" note [09:25] its a bit full already [09:25] and nobody ever reads it anyway ☹ [09:25] true [09:25] I'll shrink all the urls [09:26] well so the top propriety is indeed nexus device [09:26] cjwatson: on it right now, to get that off your way [09:26] iKillCypher, the only one ... [09:26] iKillCypher, we include patches from the community happily [09:26] the fact I haven seen the source till today.. [09:26] iKillCypher, but our work focuis is on the nexus devices to get a final image out in 4 weeks [09:27] the final date for the release is in 4 weeks? [09:27] wasnt it telecasted as in 2014 [09:27] iKillCypher, it is on launchpad ... or if you prefer in source packages on ports.ubuntu.com [09:27] the first release of the phone image will happen along with ubuntu 13.10 [09:27] iKillCypher: 1.0 is in sync with 13.10 desktop/server release [09:28] uh interesting.. so afterwhich ? other devices ? [09:28] popey: it was address-book-app, it seems [09:29] well I cant really understand the source of ubuntu cause it seems like very different from android [09:30] well, if you had used ubuntu before it would be easy for you, it doesnt differ much from desktop [09:30] I have use ubuntu before Im talking about the coding source [09:30] you can get all the source using apt-get like on every other ubuntu installation [09:31] well in cyanogenmod there is github where you can see source code [09:31] and alternativaly you can use the branches on launchpad if you dont like to use packages [09:32] on ubuntu there is http://code.launchpad.net/ [09:32] not different apart from the fact that ubuntu source is about 1000x bigger than CMs [09:33] iKillCypher, anyway, if you have a fix for your wifi issue, file a bug and attach it, we'll happily include fixes for ports ... [09:34] is this the source code for camera app ? [09:34] http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/camera-app/trunk/files [09:35] looks like [09:35] I think my biggest issue is getting Radio working [09:36] right, and thats likely also the most coimplicated one [09:37] humm you looks like there isnt any Java code o.o [09:37] Correct, Ubuntu Touch isn't Android [09:37] And isn't written in Java [09:37] so it is written from scratch? [09:37] In QML and C++ mostly, yes. [09:37] oh wow o.o I thought it was based on Android [09:49] iKillCypher: A small amount of hardware-specific code is derived from Android, but the application-level code isn't [09:49] (Small in relative terms) [09:53] ogra: my clock has disappeared again this morning [09:53] popey, bah [09:53] i just upgraded to 54 ... still has it [10:00] cjwatson: we've finished auditing the code to confirm we can move to a 'suggests' safely [10:00] cjwatson: we should have a new mp and package in a few minutes now [10:03] ogra: i have a 52 devel version on maguro and trying to update it to 54 but i keep getting 'No software updates available' [10:03] am i missing something? [10:04] psivaa, i just updated a mako from 52 to 54 [10:04] by going through systemsettings -> updates ? [10:04] yes [10:04] * ogra goes to his maguro to check [10:04] thanks ogasawara [10:05] oops thanks ogra :) [10:06] it offers me 54 on the maguro too [10:07] ogra: ack, let me see what's wrong in my install [10:07] i'm currently on 53 though, but that shouldnt make much of a difference [10:07] ogra: on the command line http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/saucy-security/universe/binary-armhf/Packages gives me 404 [10:08] sounds like an issue with your network then [10:08] did you have that device on 3G inbetween ? [10:09] iirc there was an issue where you can end up with two default routes when NM switches back and forth between 3G and wlan [10:09] ogra: no, i dont have a sim. only wifi [10:09] (check with "route -n") [10:09] ah, k [10:10] oh, wiat, did you make the image writable ? i dont think it will offer you upgrades then (since if anything on the fs changed it will predictably break) [10:11] ah, no, that cant be it [10:11] my maguro is in writable mode here [10:11] yea i would assume for over the air update we wont need it [10:12] well, it s known that OTA doesnt work if you made the iage writable ... [10:12] i thought they had put a check for this in ... apparently not [10:12] anyway, the 404 kind of indicates network issues [10:12] can you open a website ? [10:13] ogra: yes i can [10:13] JamesTait, ping? [10:13] strange [10:13] mhr3, hi! [10:13] yea, i get Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/ppa.launchpad.net_ubuntu-touch-coreapps-drivers_daily_ubuntu_dists_saucy_main_binary-armhf_Packages - [10:13] open (30: Read-only file system) when i apt-get update [10:13] apt-get update works fine for me [10:14] oh [10:14] lol [10:14] well, thats different from 404 [10:14] JamesTait, hey, remember how we wanted to turn the X-Ubuntu-Touch from a field into a category for the .desktop files? [10:14] thats a feature actually :) [10:14] but later some links give 404 [10:14] JamesTait, it's been a while, and it's still the same [10:14] yeah, thats not good, but that apt-get update doesnt work on reqadonly images is indeed expected [10:15] psivaa, its Packages.gz or Packages.bz2 not Packages [10:15] jibel: yea that's what i thought but apt-get update gives many lines like W: Failed to fetch http://ports.ubuntu.com/ubuntu-ports/dists/saucy-updates/restricted/binary-armhf/Packages 404 Not Found [10:16] orga ack [10:16] mhr3, I do remember that, yes. :) [10:16] let me make it writeable to see if that makes any difference [10:17] mhr3, it's on my radar - I've been working on u1 servers since I came back off holiday, but I'm almost wrapped up with that now and will be turning my eye to "convergance" in Click Package Index next. [10:18] psivaa, shouldnt [10:18] JamesTait, not sure if there's a bug open about this, should i create one? [10:18] psivaa, see what: "system-image-cli -v" spits out [10:18] mhr3, https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/community-1308-app-story-hardware-requirements is the blueprint I've been pointed at, but a bug would be welcome, yes. [10:19] JamesTait, what project should it be targeted at? [10:20] mhr https://launchpad.net/click-package-index [10:21] psivaa, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6123295/ [10:21] thats how it should look like [10:21] ogra: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6123296/ [10:22] psivaa, you are on the devel (stable) channel [10:22] instead of devel-proposed [10:22] there are no new upgrades for the sable channel :) [10:23] psivaa, system-image-cli -v -c devel-proposed [10:23] try that one [10:23] that wil switch you over to proposed [10:23] ohhhh ok. sorry about that :). [10:23] ogra: thanks [10:23] :) [10:28] ogra: do you know which package provides the welcome infographic? [10:30] if i repeatedly tap the infographic nothing bubbles up the cpu chart other than unity8 [10:30] i think it is a unity8 bit yeah [10:31] afaik we dont have a specific package for it [10:31] kk, ta [10:32] JamesTait, https://bugs.launchpad.net/click-package-index/+bug/1227058 [10:33] Ubuntu bug 1227058 in Click Package Index "Turn X-Ubuntu-Touch in generated .desktop file from a separate key to a Category" [Undecided,New] [10:33] Thanks, mhr3. :) [10:33] JamesTait, also, would you happen to know how is the Icon key generated? [10:36] mhr3, I'll have to check, I think there's been some change in that department. IIRC we used to have icon_url and icon_urls, and the former has now been deprecated, so icon_url should now be equivalent to icon_urls['64']. [10:37] mhr3, that's not very clear, actually. Let me try that again. :) [10:37] JamesTait, i get it :) [10:37] JamesTait, nonetheless, we see that some .desktop files have Icon=qmlscene which doesn't exist and will show up as nasty empty rectangle in the dash [10:38] mhr3, OK. :) Changes in Software Centre filtered through to Click Package Index, basically. [10:38] JamesTait, wondering if something could be done about that [10:39] ogra: popey: so is our amazing 54 image a good one? [10:39] go ahead then [10:39] someone must be lying with maguro only having 6 fails :) [10:40] hmm, i am offered no updates on my nexus 4 [10:40] oh, wrong phone [10:40] popey: its a proposed image [10:40] not a daily [10:40] a ok [10:40] mhr3, ah, I was wondering what caused those empty icons on my phone! I'll need to get back up to speed with the end-to-end to understand where that's coming from. [10:40] popey: we want to get 54:20130917.1:20130917 out basically [10:40] * ogra cant install saucy bacon on 54 [10:40] thats surely a blocker, no ? [10:40] :P [10:40] ogra: you need libqt5script5 [10:40] ah [10:41] ogra: i feel not... at least i dont know we wanted to install jono on it :) [10:41] JamesTait, qmlscene is one reason, another is usage of themed icons which are not installed on the phone [10:41] * asac looks in PRD [10:41] * popey pokes ogra with https://bugs.launchpad.net/qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu/+bug/1225749 [10:41] Ubuntu bug 1225749 in ubuntu-touch-meta (Ubuntu) "libqt5script5 should be in the base image" [Undecided,Confirmed] [10:41] JamesTait, for example i see "Icon=animal-farm" [10:41] asac, but it ships tasty ideas [10:41] asac, oh, see above bug [10:41] it's a _really_ awesome app [10:41] phablet-flash ubuntu-system --channel=daily-proposed [10:41] that should get 54 shouldn't it? [10:42] JamesTait, so i'm wondering what should be done about those [10:42] popey, yeah [10:42] ta [10:42] i need to put a big sticker on these phones so i can tell them apart [10:44] popey, i guess it would speed up inclusion of the package if you could run the autopilot tests with it installed to see we have no test regressions .. (just note on the bug that there were no regressions and i think we can fast=path it into the next image ... if asac agrees) [10:44] mhr3, this really needs someone from the client side to comment. Once I understand what the dash and click package installer need, I can make the changes on the server side. [10:45] JamesTait: click itself doesn't care [10:45] ogra: popey: for direct uploads that gives you a prime landing slot - e.g. now :) [10:45] asac, its a seed change [10:45] ogra: which ap tests? [10:45] seed change and direct metapackage upload [10:45] ogra: right. thats the approach for seed changes... just work it in the landing asks/plan [10:45] and adds a package nothing else uses [10:45] so we know what is changing as well [10:46] so it should be safe once popey can confirm [10:46] right [10:46] yeah, i'll add it [10:46] sweet [10:46] popey, i woould guess run the unity8 tests andd pick some random app ones additionally [10:46] k [10:47] yeah. sounds like it might have side effects on sdk [10:47] * ogra wonders whats up with his kbd ... seems the springs get badd or sommething [10:47] so having some good app tests run is good [10:47] hm, would that need to be done on a cdimage-touch image, or can I use ubuntu-system and then make it writable to install the ap test stuff? [10:47] asac, the sdk already ships that dep [10:47] in fact the seed change solves a discrepancy here [10:48] popey, i do the latter here [10:48] ok [10:48] ogra: do you want before and after or just after install of the package? [10:48] just dont forget to re-flash later in case you want to do other tests ... to get a clean env again [10:48] ya [10:49] i usually do before and after ... though theoretically thats obverkill ... the dashboard has the "before" already [10:51] yeah [10:51] ogra: where is your tail dude :) the update to phablet tools is that so fresh flashes from android work? [10:51] ogra: what does it mean "ships that dep"? [10:52] asac, see the bug ... the qtcreator plugin has the dep on the requested package ... it is just not in the image [10:52] ok so its something new [10:52] i.e. desktop users get the package when they install the sdk [10:52] asac, so people can create apps that work in the sdk but not in the real workld [10:52] right. test it with unity8 and few apps [10:52] and then go [10:52] which is what led to this bug in the first place [10:52] right [10:56] rsalveti, do you know which process would have 'file system sca' as its /proc/$PID/comm ? It is in a dmesg log that cannot be locally reproduced? [10:56] I guess fsck === forcev is now known as FunkyPenguin [10:57] janimo, he is on vacation ... until monday [10:58] ogra, ok, I'll accept your answer to the question then :) [10:58] haha [10:59] well, you can wait and hope, he said he would still check mail and IRC occasionally [10:59] wow [10:59] community lockscreen ! [10:59] ogra: what? [11:00] davmor2, see the ML [11:00] ogra: ah hadn't got that far through my mail stack yet :) [11:03] ogra: did you know if the new phablet-tools has the fix for fresh flashes? If so I'll drop android back on and give it a whirl [11:03] yeah, it does [11:03] my neighbours are delightful with their wifi access point names.. http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-18-120322.png [11:03] ogra: great I'll give it a go then and make sure it works :) === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [11:04] popey, lol [11:04] nice neighborhood [11:05] popey: and they think Wolverhampton is rough, I just get SKY31983 :D [11:06] 54 seems good to me ogra [11:07] ogra: ^^ [11:07] popey: will you send the mail to avengers after? do you know jibels nice changes view? [11:07] popey: maybe you can refer to the right entry there in that mail? [11:08] e.g. what changed between the last and this build? [11:09] yup yup [11:09] http://people.canonical.com/~j-lallement/touch/changes/current/ [11:10] asac, popey, maguro looks fine too [11:10] popey: you might even try to give an executive summary of what goodies made it :) [11:10] asac, jono still didnt add me to avengers, can you do the mailing again ? [11:10] hehe [11:10] or popey ^^^ [11:10] (or any other member) [11:11] oh, asac was faster [11:11] * ogra didnt read the last few lines [11:11] hehe [11:11] thanks ogra [11:11] asac, running mark-current for cdimage then ... [11:11] will remember that you remember :) [11:11] (and afterwards the system image copy) [11:11] heh [11:12] yes [11:12] ogra: i think a few things landed - like apps and we would like a checkpoint image while we tests todays big landings [11:12] yep [11:12] ogra: wonder if you backedout the touch-session yet? [11:12] otherwise we probably shouldnt spin [11:13] asac, it was never in [11:13] we tested against trunk [11:13] oh good [11:13] then, i dont think we are currently publishing anything [11:13] just had to roll back the tree [11:13] Mirv: sil2100: didrocks: did we copy something to proposed that we should wait for? [11:13] oh the scopes [11:13] ogra: we should wait for the scopes to come through proposed [11:14] not sure where they are now [11:14] i think it was 30 minutes ago whenw e copied [11:14] home-scope and libunity are in proposed [11:14] ogra: when will http://people.canonical.com/~j-lallement/touch/changes/current/ update? [11:14] propagation speed usually depends on their reverse deps ... if there are many it takes longer [11:15] * ogra fights with the system-image lock [11:15] jibel: ^^ how often does your changes view update? [11:16] popey: jibel is your man :) [11:16] wow, that was fast [11:16] ogra: do you know what failed in mako that was fixed in maguro? [11:17] maybe mako and maguro are out of sync on something? [11:17] popey, , 54 released, go ahead and mail :) [11:17] but but but.. i want to include the lovely stuff from jibel's page [11:17] lol [11:17] yeah [11:17] lets wait for that [11:17] popey: we might be able to guess the URL though :) [11:17] asac, filemanager ... [11:17] i doubt thats device specific in any way [11:18] popey: i would bet that its http://people.canonical.com/~j-lallement/touch/changes/current/20130917.1.html [11:18] so lets see what happens :) [11:18] i was expecting 18 [11:18] ogra: really odd... it always failed [11:18] * popey decides not to bet against asac [11:18] and now its fixed in maguro [11:18] ogra: reverse deps> that's a bit oversimplified :) only reverse deps with autopkgtests might slow things down (assuming that the whole assembly is installable), and even then I think the autopkgtest runners are usually overprovisioned [11:19] popey: well, better wait :) [11:19] what will help is when we manage to move proposed-migration onto its new host [11:20] morning [11:20] sergiusens, thanks for the session testing ... i backed it out again [11:20] ogra: flash seems to be working so far, fingers crossed it goes all the way :) [11:21] balloons: can you confirm that you tried to fix filemanager tests? they seem to pass on maguro :-P [11:21] balloons: thanks!! [11:23] ogra, no problem [11:23] ogra, I guess it just needs another twist to get it going properly [11:24] yeah, i'll leave that to the specialist :) [11:24] popey: i guess we can wait another few minutes and then just send the mail and cite that URL as the one we believe might have the content ... or skip it this time [11:24] i also assume its just a different .desktop file we need [11:28] asac: ya [11:31] asac: http://people.canonical.com/~j-lallement/touch/changes/20130917.1.html is that it? [11:32] popey: matches ogras list [11:32] yes [11:32] popey: did we announce the .3 build at all? [11:32] if not you should include that as well [11:33] popey: http://people.canonical.com/~j-lallement/touch/changes/current/20130916.3.html -> that one [11:33] ok [11:33] popey: was that build announced? [11:33] popey: which build did we announce last :)? [11:34] asac: 52 [11:34] 16.3 [11:34] right [11:34] so we announced those [11:34] just do the 17.1 link then [11:34] How to get boot log, if adb doesn't start on device? [11:35] sil2100: is scopes through proposed? [11:35]