[04:25]  * ball fires up Ubuntu, experimentally.
[04:32] <ball> Will it fit on a 16G USB flash drive?
[04:38] <ball> Why are there two tiny keyboards in the top, right corner of my screen?
[07:02] <MooDoo> morning all
[07:04] <MartijnVdS> \o
[07:53] <brobostigon> good morning everyone,
[08:05] <MartijnVdS> \o
[08:05] <brobostigon> morning MartijnVdS
[08:22] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[09:12] <dogmatic69> hey bigcalm o/
[09:12] <dogmatic69> you live in Telford?
[09:12] <bigcalm> Hi dogmatic69
[09:12] <bigcalm> dogmatic69: near it, yes
[09:13] <dogmatic69> ah, I just moved here :D TF2
[09:15] <Laney> oh TF2
[09:15] <Laney> what a great game
[09:16] <bigcalm> dogmatic69: cor, welcome to the region. I'm next to Newport, TF10
[09:17] <bigcalm> dogmatic69: Donnington Wood?
[09:19] <bigcalm> Oh, actually, TF2 is quite a large area: Donnington, Trench, Wrockwardine, Oakengates, Snedshill, Priorslee
[09:19] <dogmatic69> walking distance to the donnington base
[09:19] <bigcalm> Not to forget Ketley Bank
[09:19] <dogmatic69> I think officially donnington
[09:19] <bigcalm> And Muxton
[09:20] <dogmatic69> much nicer than old area, wolverhampton...
[09:20] <bigcalm> dogmatic69: you lived in Wolves and never attended the LUG?
[09:20] <bigcalm> Shame on you
[09:21] <JamesTait> dogmatic69, don't let davmor2 hear you say that. ;)
[09:21] <bigcalm> JamesTait: but Wolves is a grey dump. He'll agree with that ;)
[09:22] <bigcalm> dogmatic69: LUG night tonight if you fancy going (The Moon Under Water)
[09:22]  * JamesTait refrains from commenting. :-P
[09:22] <dogmatic69> bit far now :D
[09:22] <JamesTait> Actually, what I will say is that whenever I've had cause to visit Wolverhampton I've always been made to feel welcome and had a very enjoyable time.
[09:23] <bigcalm> dogmatic69: it's better than the Shopshire LUG ;) I make the trip
[09:23] <bigcalm> JamesTait: the people are lovely, the place is grey
[09:23] <dogmatic69> JamesTait: I was in Willenhall, car insurance went from £300 to £1200... fantastic area
[09:24] <bigcalm> Wow
[09:24] <JamesTait> Ouch!
[09:27] <dogmatic69> Same for my motorbike, not as high change though
[09:27] <dogmatic69> just updated to telford and they now owe me \o/
[09:27] <bigcalm> Hehe
[09:27] <bigcalm> Nice
[09:33] <JamesTait> Oh, and happy Water Monitoring Day! :)
[09:34]  * MartijnVdS is off to monitor his water
[09:34] <MartijnVdS> brb
[10:30] <davmor2> Morning all
[10:31] <MartijnVdS>  \o
[10:31] <davmor2> JamesTait: Man now I got to go hunt through backlogs
[10:33] <JamesTait> davmor2, you're welcome. ;)
[10:34] <JamesTait> davmor2, 10:20 < dogmatic69> much nicer than old area, wolverhampton...
[10:34] <davmor2> dogmatic69: I'm gonna hunt you down and force you to listen to justin beiber
[10:42]  * bigcalm returns from the Doctors'. What fun have I missed?
[10:43] <popey> NONE WHATSOEVER
[10:43] <bigcalm> So it would seem
[10:43] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: None, if the Doctor set the time circuits correctly
[10:52] <dogmatic69> davmor2: cant be as bad as living in Wolvs :D
[10:53] <davmor2> dogmatic69: haha harsh dude, where did you live when you were here?
[10:53] <dogmatic69> willenhall
[10:54] <davmor2> dogmatic69: well that's under walsall so that doesn't count :P
[11:59] <DJones> This seems like a nicely spec'd machine http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/09/system-76-new-leopard-extreme-pc
[12:16] <diplo> Guys, I want to remove qtcreator, best way ? apt-get remove qtcreator is passing back unmet dependencies. I thought I'd post here and google as well now
[12:16] <diplo> Hi all btw
[12:18] <popey> apt-get autoremove qtcreator
[12:19] <diplo> hah, google helped at the same time, thanks popey :)
[12:20] <diplo> Hmm, had to do a apt-get -f <rtn> ad then apt-get autoremove
[12:20] <diplo> Seems to be working now
[12:21] <bigcalm> I'm tempted to do the same on my desktop. It's messed up updates a little
[12:22] <diplo> yeah same here, hmm doing an update/upgrade after is trying to reinstall now
[12:22] <diplo> purge after ?
[12:22] <diplo> actually no it's just not removed all the plugins etc
[12:22] <bigcalm> Maybe it's because we're not using 13.10 yeat?
[12:23] <diplo> maybe
[12:23] <kvarley-work> Ubuntu Server 12.10 - Having problems with getting Image Magick to convert a SVG to a PNG through PHP
[12:23] <bigcalm> yeat?
[12:23] <bigcalm> Nice word
[12:23] <kvarley-work> Results in "Fatal error: Uncaught exception 'ImagickException' with message 'no decode delegate for this image format"
[12:25] <diplo> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9586048/imagemagick-no-decode-delegate
[12:25] <MartijnVdS> http://www.slideshare.net/reed2001/culture-1798664
[12:26] <diplo> Work on the CLI kvarley-work ?
[12:26] <kvarley-work> diplo: I specifically need the PHP Imagick class to work. It's for a project that requires rendering of SVGs to PNGs
[12:29] <MartijnVdS> kvarley-work: can you put the code you're using up somewhere? There's probably some syntax error in an argument?
[12:32] <jpds_> kvarley-work: But have you checked that imagemagick works on the command line itself?
[12:33] <diplo> yeah that's what I was getting at, maybe imagemgick hasn't been compiled with that option ?
[12:39] <diplo> http://www.euperia.com/development/php/php-imagick-imagickexception-no-decode-delegate-for-postscript-or-pdf-files/1051
[12:39] <diplo> ah sorry wrong link
[12:39] <diplo> :)
[13:34]  * czajkowski stabs davmor2 
[13:34]  * davmor2 cattle prods czajkowski 
[13:35] <czajkowski> davmor2: howdy doody
[13:36] <davmor2> czajkowski: how's life chick
[13:37] <czajkowski> davmor2: you know, not bad now not bad at all.  I do have an odly behaving hen just back from Berlin and heading to Ireland next week for our company EMEA kick off so fun times
[13:37] <czajkowski> counting down the days till I get a pug
[13:38] <davmor2> czajkowski: you have one now it stops the water going down the sink :D
[13:40] <czajkowski> eh no
[13:40] <czajkowski> smart ass
[13:42] <bigcalm> czajkowski: If Jon is ill, are you still coming on the RAT this Saturday?
[13:44] <czajkowski> bigcalm: I'd doubt it I'm pretty much running on low atm and already had suggested he give my ticket to one of his mates
[13:45] <popey> awwww
[13:46] <czajkowski> davmor2: I've a very broody hen who is not laying and is sittin on the others eggs daily and not eating so we're having some fun with her atm
[13:55] <bigcalm> christel: are you joining us this Saturday?
[14:53] <SuperMatt> soo.... has anyone managed to get the citrix ica client working in saucy 64bit??
[15:01] <SuperMatt> huh, installing the 32bit version worked
[15:05] <MartijnVdS> \o/
[16:19] <MartijnVdS> whoa
[16:19] <MartijnVdS> security-announce overload
[16:19] <mgdm> has a comedy exploit come out?
[16:20] <MartijnVdS> mgdm: They seem to be related
[16:20] <MartijnVdS> "X could be tricked into bypassing polkit authorizations.
[16:20] <MartijnVdS> where "X" = package name
[16:20] <mgdm> ah
[16:21] <mungbean> was working next to this building today http://i.imgur.com/5KW9qOh.jpg
[16:21] <mungbean> wife recognised it at once. pop quiz - which programme is it from?
[16:21] <SuperMatt> I want to say poirot
[16:21] <mungbean> you are correct
[16:21] <SuperMatt> win!
[16:22] <mungbean> bit of a fire the other week though
[18:20] <DJones> woot BBM for android to arrive on 21/9/13, perfect timing, the only person with a blackberry I know has just scrapped it and gotten a Galaxy S3 because the Blackberry was so bad, another app I can safely ignore
[18:22] <popey> hah
[18:24] <directhex> blackberry have been *so bad* at reacting to market trends in time to come out on top
[18:24] <directhex> it's crazy
[18:26] <DJones> Probably the only way to improve blackberry would be to opensource the software & let developers work on it rather than keep it locked up in a safe where nobody cares
[18:27] <directhex> DJones, doubtful. you can't just toss source over the wall & expect a community to form
[18:28] <ali1234> yeah, just look at symbian
[18:28] <ali1234> they tried that - it didn't work
[18:28] <DJones> I can't see it improving as it stands, so something off the wall might just make a bit of an improvement
[18:28] <mgdm> they closed it off again, IIRC
[18:29] <ali1234> they closed it a few months before the microsoft deal that killed it entirely
[18:30] <mgdm> ahh, yes
[19:28] <mungbean> watching "under the dome", full of MS product placement
[19:29] <mungbean> even the credits say "sponsored in part by MS"
[19:33] <popey> time flies
[19:33] <popey> a year ago felix baumgardener jumped to earth
[19:40] <mungbean> bumgardener?
[19:45]  * popey is avoiding telly by watching ted talks
[19:45] <mungbean> also, http://sobadsogood.com/2013/05/30/30-unique-and-compelling-photos-from-our-past/
[22:19] <popey> Predictable outcome for CyanogenMod
[22:20] <diddledan> popey:?
[22:21] <popey> they have 7M USD venture capital
[22:21] <popey> setup Cyanogen Inc
[22:21] <diddledan> interesting
[22:21] <popey> more competition in the mobile space
[22:21] <diddledan> so they're actually positioning to compete against google now?
[22:37] <popey> looks that way, but spun that they're not
[22:40] <ali1234> they're no more competing against google than samsung or htc are
[22:41] <ali1234> in fact until such time as they start selling hardware, significantly less
[22:41] <popey> they say they have a hardware partner
[22:41] <popey> probably oppo
[23:48] <ali1234> urgh... how do i send ctrl-alt-f1 to a vm?
[23:49] <ali1234> with virtualbox
[23:50] <ali1234> ah... right ctrl f1
[23:51]  * AlanBell nods
[23:52] <AlanBell> host key doesn't have to be right ctrl, but it normally is
[23:52] <ali1234> anyone know how to get the log from upstart user session init?
[23:52] <ali1234> setting the xsession manager to "/bin/sh -c 'init --user --verbose 1>>/tmp/out 2>>/tmp/err'" does not work :(
[23:54] <ali1234> maybe if i write a small c program that reopens stdout/stderr and then execs it
[23:55] <ali1234> the more i look at this upstart code the more appealing systemd seems :(