[14:58] <netritious> wrst: IKR? Was so swamped yesterday. Didn't get home till 9pm.
[14:58] <wrst> ha ha that's busy :\
[14:58] <wrst> but good to be busy when you are in bidness ;)
[14:59] <netritious> heh yeah, although bidness could be better.
[14:59] <wrst> way things are right now its good to still be in bidness I suppose
[15:00] <netritious> true, although I am constantly looking out for the "right job"...the full time variety. Unfortunately with no certs, no degree, and a wide skill set, hard to land one. :/
[15:01] <wrst> experience to me speaks louder than all the other junk
[15:01] <wrst> not just in tech but life in general
[15:01] <netritious> While I agree with you, the powers that be don't seem to think so.
[15:01] <wrst> nope
[15:02] <wrst> exactly and thus is a lot of problem in society
[15:02] <netritious> I've had some decent offers, but I don't want to live in Cali.
[15:02] <wrst> not to mention witht he government
[15:02] <wrst> ugh
[15:03] <netritious> Yeah, I like trees, and lots of them. Palms don't count IMHO lol
[15:04] <netritious> although I've always wanted to visit the redwood forests in Cali....those are some amazing trees.
[15:05] <netritious> it's said some are 1,000's of years old.
[16:14] <tenc> What is the difference between Ubuntu and Xubuntu? Are the differences isolated to desktop and prepackaged software? Are there core differences beyond that?
[16:24] <wrst> tenc: they are both built on the ubuntu base, in order to be an official flavor that is a requirement so yes the desktop is the only difference all the packages that are available in one is available in the other, just different defaults selected
[16:24] <wrst> tenc: I was going to check my statement with Unit193 as he is expert on such things but he has left
[16:24] <tenc> Nice, thanks wrst. I thought so (someone in #Xubuntu confirmed that too).
[16:24] <wrst> and netritious I would like to see the redwoods also
[16:25] <wrst> ahh good tenc, and if you have any xubuntu specific stuff Unit193 is the man on that he knows it inside and out
[17:54] <wrst> wb tenc
[18:04] <tenc> thx
[18:04] <wrst> tenc: do you run xubuntu
[18:06] <tenc> I've been playing with it on my laptop but I stick with unity on my desktop.
[18:06] <wrst> I know many that run it are pretty happy with it, and xubuntu does a good job of making it look nice
[18:08] <tenc> For sure, although for someone relatively new to Linux like me it doesn't reveal it's workflow right away. Maybe with time I'll come to like it more.
[18:09] <tenc> The customization is extensive.
[18:09] <tenc> How about you wrst?
[18:10] <wrst> I use KDE on Arch linux
[18:10] <wrst> on the desktop and run arch on a couple of raspberry pi's and debian on any server I mess with
[18:10] <wrst> I tinker a lot :)
[18:11] <tenc> Tinkering is great and by extension systems that avail themselves to it.
[18:12] <wrst> yes and of course for me book if it really needs to work debian is the way to go
[18:13] <wrst> but if you are just coming from windows? ubuntu opens up a lot of options and unity too, not to mention all the desktop options
[18:16] <tenc> Yeah, Windows from way back. Ubuntu was the easiest way in.
[18:17] <wrst> certainly
[18:17] <wrst> I started out with Mandriva way back in the day before ubuntu was as polished and easy
[18:19] <wrst> the thing I found was that pretty much if you want to do it you can do it with linux in some form or another and its a great learning experience to boot
[18:22] <tenc> ++learning; I've found the same so far. What are you doing with your pis?
[18:23] <wrst> I have one working as a print server for my parents
[18:23] <wrst> I have used one for xbmc, its now working as a desktop for the rare occassion I need it
[18:24] <wrst> I have one that I use just for ssh to my home network they are so cheap and low powered
[18:24] <wrst> oh the one I use for ssh I also use it for a backup device I have an external hard drive hooked to it
[18:25] <tenc> That's great. ^^
[18:26] <wrst> I'm a little anal on backups I have a freenas machine for all our media stuff, pictures home movies misuc etc etc
[18:26] <wrst> so I back some of it up locally and all of it through crashplan
[18:37] <wrst> Unit193: about time you get back
[18:37] <wrst> or not
[18:37] <wrst> Unit193: about time you get back... hopefully
[18:38] <Unit193> wrst: Yeah, stupid stuff...
[18:39] <wrst> well you missed me singing the praises of xubuntu to tenc, you should be proud
[18:40] <Unit193> Dang. :P
[18:42] <tenc> ^^
[18:42] <wrst> don't worry I didn't take it too far