=== Omnifrog is now known as Omnifrog|pond === Omnifrog|pond is now known as Omnifrog [14:58] wrst: IKR? Was so swamped yesterday. Didn't get home till 9pm. [14:58] ha ha that's busy :\ [14:58] but good to be busy when you are in bidness ;) [14:59] heh yeah, although bidness could be better. [14:59] way things are right now its good to still be in bidness I suppose [15:00] true, although I am constantly looking out for the "right job"...the full time variety. Unfortunately with no certs, no degree, and a wide skill set, hard to land one. :/ [15:01] experience to me speaks louder than all the other junk [15:01] not just in tech but life in general [15:01] While I agree with you, the powers that be don't seem to think so. [15:01] nope [15:02] exactly and thus is a lot of problem in society [15:02] I've had some decent offers, but I don't want to live in Cali. [15:02] not to mention witht he government [15:02] ugh [15:03] Yeah, I like trees, and lots of them. Palms don't count IMHO lol [15:04] although I've always wanted to visit the redwood forests in Cali....those are some amazing trees. [15:05] it's said some are 1,000's of years old. [16:14] What is the difference between Ubuntu and Xubuntu? Are the differences isolated to desktop and prepackaged software? Are there core differences beyond that? [16:24] tenc: they are both built on the ubuntu base, in order to be an official flavor that is a requirement so yes the desktop is the only difference all the packages that are available in one is available in the other, just different defaults selected [16:24] tenc: I was going to check my statement with Unit193 as he is expert on such things but he has left [16:24] Nice, thanks wrst. I thought so (someone in #Xubuntu confirmed that too). [16:24] and netritious I would like to see the redwoods also [16:25] ahh good tenc, and if you have any xubuntu specific stuff Unit193 is the man on that he knows it inside and out [17:54] wb tenc [18:04] thx [18:04] tenc: do you run xubuntu [18:06] I've been playing with it on my laptop but I stick with unity on my desktop. [18:06] I know many that run it are pretty happy with it, and xubuntu does a good job of making it look nice [18:08] For sure, although for someone relatively new to Linux like me it doesn't reveal it's workflow right away. Maybe with time I'll come to like it more. [18:09] The customization is extensive. [18:09] How about you wrst? [18:10] I use KDE on Arch linux [18:10] on the desktop and run arch on a couple of raspberry pi's and debian on any server I mess with [18:10] I tinker a lot :) [18:11] Tinkering is great and by extension systems that avail themselves to it. [18:12] yes and of course for me book if it really needs to work debian is the way to go [18:13] but if you are just coming from windows? ubuntu opens up a lot of options and unity too, not to mention all the desktop options [18:16] Yeah, Windows from way back. Ubuntu was the easiest way in. [18:17] certainly [18:17] I started out with Mandriva way back in the day before ubuntu was as polished and easy [18:19] the thing I found was that pretty much if you want to do it you can do it with linux in some form or another and its a great learning experience to boot [18:22] ++learning; I've found the same so far. What are you doing with your pis? [18:23] I have one working as a print server for my parents [18:23] I have used one for xbmc, its now working as a desktop for the rare occassion I need it [18:24] I have one that I use just for ssh to my home network they are so cheap and low powered [18:24] oh the one I use for ssh I also use it for a backup device I have an external hard drive hooked to it [18:25] That's great. ^^ [18:26] I'm a little anal on backups I have a freenas machine for all our media stuff, pictures home movies misuc etc etc [18:26] so I back some of it up locally and all of it through crashplan [18:37] Unit193: about time you get back [18:37] or not [18:37] Unit193: about time you get back... hopefully [18:38] wrst: Yeah, stupid stuff... [18:39] well you missed me singing the praises of xubuntu to tenc, you should be proud [18:40] Dang. :P [18:42] ^^ [18:42] don't worry I didn't take it too far