[13:33] <_ramok> hell [13:33] <_ramok> o [13:33] <_ramok> I'm having upstart running in version 0.65 on centos 6 [14:53] I'm running into an issue with some upstart jobs. start works fine, but when i stop them, the command hangs and nothing happens. When i Ctrl+C, the process controlled by upstart is still running. After this happens, any time I start or stop the job, the start/stop command hands and I have to Ctrl+C it, and the job controlled by upstart hasn't been start/stopped. [17:27] quickdry21: See https://github.com/ion1/workaround-upstart-snafu [18:23] ion: thanks, this has been driving me nuts. any idea what causes this? seems to happen when start-stop daemon and upstart are used together [18:48] quickdry21: An “expect” stanza that lies to Upstart about the forking behavior of the main process. [18:48] The fastest way to get it to work is to get rid of daemonization altogether and drop the “expect” stanza. [21:10] this bug report requires some attention https://bugs.launchpad.net/upstart/+bug/1227212 [21:11] the upstart user session has been identified as culprit [21:12] +1 on that bugreport, i've chatted quite a few people up on that in the last few days and it seems pretty much all desktops are affected [22:54] how do i enabled upstart xsession debugging, and where does nih_warn messages go to? [23:19] looks like i edit /etc/X11/Xsession.d/99upstart and add --verbose to the STARTUP variable [23:39] unfortunately the output isn't logged anywhere