[02:17] <hatch> bac: I think you forgot to lbox again ;)
[02:17] <hatch> or at least forgot the -cr :)
[02:33] <bac> hatch: the -cr is supposed to be built in
[02:34] <bac> hatch: google is waiting for me to authenticate...
[02:35] <bac> hatch: https://codereview.appspot.com/13772043
[02:36] <hatch> ohh  :)
[02:36] <hatch> thanks
[02:47] <bac> thanks for the cursor suggestion jeff
[02:47] <bac> hatch: the mechanics of the export did not change so the problem you saw must have been pre-existing
[02:48] <bac> i'll play with it tomorrow
[02:48] <hatch> bac: ok cool I'll LGTM it then
[02:48] <bac> thx.  can't land it until GP gives the a-ok
[02:49] <hatch> alright - if you don't end up fixing that bug could you create a proper ticket for it in the am?
[02:49] <hatch> I haven't done any of the export stuff yet
[02:49] <bac> yep
[02:50] <hatch> awesome
[11:35]  * gary_poster is getting 0.10.0 on jujucharms.com
[11:40] <rick_h_> woot
[11:55] <gary_poster> jujucharms.com has 0.10.0.  /me will tweet and G+ about it now.  well, after a quick breakfast.
[12:33] <bac> jujugui: has anyone started a "Guide to Daily QA"?  i know we dismissed the idea of a script but perhaps something would be helpful.  if not, i will today.
[12:34] <benji> Step 1: don't forget to do QA until bac mentions it the next day
[12:35] <gary_poster> :-P
[12:35] <bac> doh
[12:43] <bac> benji: luckily it isn't like OCR where your forgetfulness means i have a bigger backlog.
[12:43] <benji> true; in fact it means there is one more low-hanging bug for you; go teamwork!
[12:44] <bac> perhaps if someone forgets they should take the next shift and that lucky person gets a day off.  :)
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[13:52] <luca__> rick_h_: I just shared the orange triangle with you because I noticed it was missing
[13:54] <rick_h_> luca__: cool, yea we didn't have that or the answer of what to do with the charm details UI so we left it out in order to land the search changes 
[13:55] <luca__> rick_h_: it will be added to the charm details too :)
[13:55] <rick_h_> luca__: ok, in the corneer? There was some question during sprints
[13:55] <luca__> rick_h_: in the corner, I have a mockup somewhere which I'll share now
[13:55] <rick_h_> luca__: cool, I'm going to be afk for a week after today, but will add a card for it
[13:59] <luca__> rick_h_: how dare you leave your keyboard!
[14:00] <rick_h_> luca__: well I'll bring it with me...but...but...will be avoiding thinking about charm tokens for a bit :)
[14:07] <luca__> rick_h_: sent you the charm details
[14:07] <rick_h_> luca__: thanks, adding to the card
[14:47] <rick_h_> can anyone dupe gustavo's issues with the jujucharms.com site? jujugui
[14:48] <gary_poster> rick_h_, reported where?
[14:48] <rick_h_> and if so can you get any debug info from the console
[14:48] <rick_h_> gary_poster: on the juju mailing list
[14:48] <rick_h_> it got stuck in                                                                                                                            
[14:48] <benji> rick_h_: I'm having a serious issue renaming a css class.  I'm working on adding bundle tokens and I need to rename the yui3-charmtoken class.  I have changed it everywhere grep can find "charmtoken" but I'm getting test failures.  Thoughts?
[14:48] <rick_h_> "Connecting to the environment...": 
[14:48] <rick_h_> benji: hah, that's a bad css class to rename :)
[14:48] <hatch> rick_h_: negative
[14:49] <benji> rick_h_: it appears to work for me for both FF and chrome
[14:49] <gary_poster> rick_h_, ack.  worked for me, and did a before and after when I deployed on Chrome and FF
[14:49] <rick_h_> benji: so that name comes from the yui widget, so that's the name of the widget in the NAME attribute
[14:49] <rick_h_> benji: let me finish my notes for my MP and I can take a peek
[14:49] <benji> k
[14:51] <gary_poster> rick_h_ or hatch could you engage with niemeyer on #juju-dev?
[14:56] <benji> rick_h_: with your hint I got it working.  Thanks!
[14:57] <hatch> rick_h_: reviewing
[14:58] <rick_h_> hatch: working on review notes atm
[14:58] <hatch> ok I'll wait
[14:58] <rick_h_> benji: so still want to chat/check. Should we just be duping the yui3-charmtoken for yui3-bundletoken or sharing 
[15:06] <rick_h_> hatch: comments added. Thanks for looking at it
[15:07] <rick_h_> benji: time to chat?
[15:07] <rick_h_> jujugui need a second review and would appreciate double QA on https://codereview.appspot.com/13775044/ please
[15:08] <gary_poster> I will look if noone has claimed it soon.  stepping away for a moment
[15:09] <hatch> is warthogs the proper email to send the docker/redhat news links?
[15:10] <rick_h_> hatch: well there's a current thread in there now. Are you thinking it should have been done elsewhere?
[15:10] <rick_h_> hatch: or are you looking to send the link out?
[15:10] <hatch> oh there is?
[15:10] <hatch> did I miss it
[15:10] <rick_h_> hatch: it's on the cloud list
[15:11] <hatch> can you pm me the link?
[15:11] <hatch> thanks for letting me know :)
[15:12] <benji> rick_h_: sure
[15:13]  * benji wishes the guichat hangout still worked
[15:13] <rick_h_> benji: invite coming
[15:14] <rick_h_> benji: or https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/39bd85321baa8e4541f31b3835d9c7dc7c5ac86b?hl=en
[15:15] <hatch> rick_h_: I'm a little concerned about this branch, let me know wen you're done with benji and I'll pop in this hangout and you can soothe my fears :)
[15:15] <rick_h_> hatch: rgr
[15:29] <gary_poster> rick_h_, you still need a second review?
[15:29] <bac> jujugui: anyone see this error when using '--to=' on a juju deploy?  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6128735/
[15:29] <bac> i thought --series was supposed to solve it
[15:30] <gary_poster> h'ain't done that myself
[15:31] <rick_h_> gary_poster: yes, pelease 
[15:31] <gary_poster> ok on it rick_h_ 
[15:32] <rick_h_> bac: not seein it either
[15:32] <rick_h_> hatch: ready to chat then?
[15:32] <rick_h_> let me find my coffee
[15:32] <hatch> oh I am so ronrey
[15:32] <rick_h_> ronrey?
[15:32] <hatch> rick_h_: I'm in the above hangout
[15:32] <rick_h_> onery?
[15:32] <hatch> lol
[15:33] <hatch> oh I am so ronrey, i am so ronrey, i ain't got no body, no body but me
[15:38] <hatch> oh rick_h_ I found this this morning http://store.steampowered.com/app/226960/ looks like a pretty good game, and supports Ubuntu
[15:41] <rick_h_> hatch: hah
[15:41] <hatch> not a fan of tactics games?
[15:42] <rick_h_> hatch: more lol at the "Civil war with machines!"
[15:42] <hatch> lol yeah I laughed
[15:42] <hatch> I'm also a fan that it says 'no microtransactions' in the description lol
[15:50] <Makyo> jujugui call in 10 kanban now
[15:52] <gary_poster> rick_h_, not yet LGTM: I asked you to review a couple of changes you made.  I think you'll see that they point to a bit more work needing to happen.  Hopefully not too much.
[15:52] <rick_h_> gary_poster: rgr, looking
[15:56] <Makyo> evilnickveitch, Meant to ping you yesterday, sorry for the delay; I have a docs branch up for review for managing juju with the gui: https://code.launchpad.net/~makyo/juju-core/gui-docs/+merge/186088 And the screenshots actually match the GUI now :)
[15:57] <evilnickveitch> Makyo, hey! Yeah, I saw your branch, looks nice - hoping to get round to it today or early tomorrow :)
[15:57] <Makyo> evilnickveitch, Cheers, thanks!
[15:58] <gary_poster> jujugui call in 2
[16:08] <luca__> gary_poster: is coming soon down?
[16:08] <rick_h_> luca__: working here
[16:08] <gary_poster> luca__, no, wfm
[16:20] <luca__> gary_poster: rick_h_ my coming soon isn't loading =/
[16:20] <rick_h_> luca__: check the console in the dev tools for an error? I can do a hangout if that would help. 
[16:21] <luca__> rick_h_: oh, it just loaded, but it's loading sooooo slow
[16:21] <luca__> rick_h_: I actually think the wifi here is playing up
[16:21] <rick_h_> luca__: sounds like network issues to me :/
[16:21] <luca__> rick_h_: someone else is complaining hehe
[16:21] <rick_h_> thanks Makyo for the links
[16:27] <luca__> hatch: can we have a quick hangout?
[16:27] <hatch> luca__: I'm actually in one right now, when is your eod?
[16:28] <luca__> in 20 mins or so
[16:28] <luca__> hatch: ^
[16:28] <hatch> ok I figure i'll be done before that for sure
[16:28] <luca__> hatch: ok, cool
[16:35] <hatch> luca__: https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/1628ca7569594f92eec081cf2f95ef52fd9a64e2?hl=en
[16:37] <gary_poster> hey luca__ you available for https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/42b70d1021eeaaf2e105e5754e11385fafe6ebce
[16:37] <gary_poster> ?
[16:37] <luca__> gary_poster: I'm in one with Jeff :)
[16:37] <gary_poster> :-)
[16:45] <hatch> done!
[16:45] <hatch> he's all yours!
[16:46] <Makyo> luca__, time for a super quick chat?  4-5 mins?
[16:46] <hatch> lol
[16:46] <luca__> gary_poster: Makyo are you in the same chat? :D
[16:46] <gary_poster> luca__, we left. :-)
[16:47] <gary_poster> luca__, Makyo you available now?
[16:47] <Makyo> luca__, that was for us, yeah.  https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/a51f5f3e698de1adbc9208a01f6bafe4c22264e1
[16:47] <luca__> gary_poster: oh, I've just left hatch 
[16:47] <hatch> it wasn't working out
[16:47] <gary_poster> heh
[16:47] <hatch> we decided to go our separate ways
[16:47] <hatch> rick_h_: do you happen to have a juju-core instance up?
[16:47] <gary_poster> Makyo, luca__ I'll leve you to discussion, but call me if you want me
[16:50] <rick_h_> hatch: I can, what's up?
[16:50] <hatch> on jujucharms.com when you relate mysql & wordpress (or any relation for that matter) they are missing the interface and role in the inspector
[16:50] <hatch> I want to make sure that's a fakebackend limitation
[16:50] <hatch> ceph and glance also are missing the info
[16:51] <rick_h_> hatch: ok, give me a few. Lunch is coming out and need to move from laptop to desktop
[16:51] <hatch> so it's either a bug or a fakebackend limitation
[16:51] <hatch> thanks - it would take me forever to get that up because i haven't had a chance to set up my big machine yet
[16:51] <rick_h_> hatch: yep, np
[17:11] <benji> An almost entirely mechanical branch for review: https://codereview.appspot.com/13627053
[17:11] <benji> The non-mechanical parts are spelled out in the review note.
[17:11] <rick_h_> gary_poster: removed the extra landscape bits. Thanks for catching my missing of the ! in those places! https://codereview.appspot.com/13775044
[17:12] <rick_h_> hatch: bringing up the go env now
[17:13] <hatch> thank yaz
[17:19] <rick_h_> hatch: http://uploads.mitechie.com/lp/interface-check.png
[17:19] <rick_h_> hatch: though the self-relations is missing a name in the mysql-ha side
[17:20] <rick_h_> hatch: http://uploads.mitechie.com/lp/check-interface-2.png
[17:21] <hatch> ok thanks I'll file a ticket to this effect
[17:21] <hatch> UX brought it up
[17:21] <rick_h_> hatch: anything else I need to check before I shut it down?
[17:21] <hatch> nope this gives me all I need thanks
[17:21] <rick_h_> coolio
[17:26] <hatch> yesterday I switched to this color scheme....it's pretty nice https://sublime.wbond.net/packages/Tubsted%20Color%20Schemes
[17:27] <hatch> it actually appears to work properly for javascript :)
[17:46] <rick_h_> benji: bac https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/document/d/1vuRq0P2UVB_WjBCeR-4cyVV86470ief0APVfMkEKRq0/edit so far. If you guys can take a few to read through and let me know if anything sounds crazy
[17:46] <bac> crazy talk
[17:46] <rick_h_> I'm good at it :)
[17:55] <gary_poster> rick_h_, LGTM & QA good
[17:58] <rick_h_> gary_poster: awesome, thanks!
[17:58] <gary_poster> thank you
[18:00] <rick_h_> rakensflyinghigh
[18:00] <benji> rick_h_: I'm back from lunch and am looking at the document
[18:01] <gary_poster> benji I'm starting reviewing https://codereview.appspot.com/13627053/ now fwiw
[18:01] <rick_h_> benji: cool, it's kind of vague, but oh well. You can stab me when I get back for leaving out some vital point I should be thinking to make :/
[18:02] <benji> gary_poster: if you cross your eyes the diff becomes a steriogram of a dolphin
[18:02] <gary_poster> benji lol I'll aim for that 
[18:12] <benji> "Double Dispatch" - You keep using that word.  I do not think it means what you think it means.
[18:13] <gary_poster> benji, lgtm, qa good
[18:13] <benji> gary_poster: great, thanks
[18:15] <benji> gary_poster: re. the name: yeah Rick and I tried to come up with something better, but couldn't.  Anything we put bofore "Token" was worse than nothing at all.
[18:15] <gary_poster> heh
[18:15] <hatch> JRToken
[18:15] <hatch> ?
[18:15] <hatch> did you try that?
[18:15] <hatch> sorry
[18:15] <hatch> JRRToken :)
[18:16] <gary_poster> benji, thinking fwiw...DeployableToken...
[18:16] <benji> gary_poster: that's funny, that was exactly what I came up with
[18:16] <gary_poster> benji, great minds etc. ;-)
[18:19]  * hatch still votes for JRRToken
[18:19] <gary_poster> hatch, I just got it, sorry.  yeah, you win. :-)
[18:19] <hatch> lol darn that took FOREVER
[18:20] <hatch> haha
[18:20] <gary_poster> I needed the two Rs, man
[18:20] <hatch> yeah I failed
[18:23] <hatch> lunching
[18:23] <hatch> bbl
[18:36] <gary_poster> Doing my Thursday afternoon schedule rearrangement.  back later in afternoon briefly, and then later in evening.  I have permission to be out tomorrow, so I'll plan to see everybody Monday.  rick_h_ have a great vacation!
[19:13] <benji> bac: let me know when (and if) you're available to work on the bundle token stuff.
[19:13] <bac> benji: ok.
[19:53] <hatch> ugh race conditions are driving me nuts!
[20:00] <hatch> prototype branch of this changeover finished
[20:01] <hatch> ugly as sin though :/
[20:02] <hatch> bcsaller: I have this super horrible race condition that's calling update after the ghost inspector closes
[20:02] <bcsaller> hmm
[20:02] <hatch> I'm wondering if we shouldn't unhook the databinding and then destroy the inspector
[20:02] <hatch> like wait for the databinding to completely detach
[20:02] <hatch> because we call unbind() first
[20:03] <bcsaller> you mean we call bindingEngine.destory but it hasn't taken effect yet?
[20:03] <hatch> but that must be async?
[20:03] <hatch> right
[20:03] <bcsaller> it shouldn't be that I'm aware of
[20:03] <bcsaller> that doesn't even make sense to me
[20:03] <hatch> the serviceinspector is visible, but then the update on the ghost viewlet is called
[20:03] <hatch> which shouldn't even be possible
[20:03] <hatch> right...
[20:03] <bcsaller> unless
[20:03] <hatch> ohh handle.detach() is async?
[20:03] <bcsaller> the time buffering window leaves things in a closure till after
[20:04] <hatch> I think it is
[20:04] <bcsaller> hmm
[20:04] <bcsaller> doesn't make sense to me
[20:05] <hatch> ok glad I'm not nuts
[20:05] <bcsaller> maybe to allow running events to finish, but given that its single threaded that doesn't make sense 
[20:05] <hatch> will keep looking
[20:05] <bcsaller> the docs don't say its async 
[20:06] <hatch> ohhhh I know
[20:06] <hatch> the deploy callback is setting the config options again and then destroying the inspector
[20:06] <hatch> there must be some lag in there
[20:06] <hatch> it didn't happen before because we were using a different model
[20:07] <hatch> that does make sense....
[20:08] <hatch> oh look at that, new google header
[20:09] <hatch> yup that was a quick fix
[20:09] <hatch> heh
[20:09] <hatch> thanks for being the rubber duck bcsaller
[20:10] <bcsaller> I've been called worse
[20:10] <hatch> rofl
[20:10] <hatch> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubber_duck_debugging
[20:10] <bcsaller> yeah, i've seen that with the bear
[20:11] <hatch> a bear?
[20:11] <hatch> intersting
[20:11] <hatch> never seen it with a bear
[20:12] <hatch> I did come across a game who's dev company was 'bugbear' though :D
[20:21] <bac> rick_h_: did you do the canvas zoom control?
[20:21] <bac> or was it ^^^ hatch?
[20:21] <hatch> rick_h_: restyled it
[20:22] <hatch> there was a small glitch with the spriting though I think
[20:23] <bac> what does that mean?  i'm seeing the + go red on hover but not the -.  the most trivial issue we could possibly have but i was just curious.
[20:23] <bac> hatch: ^^
[20:23] <hatch> yeah that's the bug
[20:23] <hatch> there is a ticket
[20:23] <bac> dang!
[20:23] <hatch> is it your QA day?
[20:23] <hatch> ;)
[20:24] <gary_poster> lol
[20:24] <bac> looking at the code i see there is a zoom_p_h class added but i don't see it used in the css or anywhere else
[20:35] <bcsaller> https://codereview.appspot.com/13771047/ needs review, it mostly (but not only) moves code about hence the size
[20:37] <hatch> anyone want to help me QA this branch? :) lp:~hatch/juju-gui/ghost-databind
[20:37] <hatch> it's just the prototype but I want to make sure I didn't miss any functionality
[20:38] <gary_poster> hatch, I'm reviewing bcsaller's branch then will look at yours
[20:38] <hatch> thanks
[20:39] <hatch> man I did something to my python install
[20:39] <gary_poster> hatch https://codereview.appspot.com/13786044 is sweet and fast if you want a quick review/qa.  if not can call out wider
[20:39] <hatch> ImportError: No module named txaws.client.ssl is what happens when I try to run rapi now :/
[20:39] <hatch> sure I'll do it
[20:39] <gary_poster> thanks
[20:41] <hatch> I can't believe people turn off cookies
[20:41] <hatch> that must be irritating
[20:51] <benji> hatch: try "apt-get install python-txzookeeper"
[20:51] <hatch> already installed
[20:52] <hatch> maybe a delete/repull
[20:52] <hatch> because it 'used' to work
[20:53] <bac> while logged into LP, if you look at this page, what does the 'bzr push' line say?  https://code.launchpad.net/juju-gui
[20:53] <hatch> yeah that didn't help
[20:53] <hatch> bac: lp:~hatch/juju-gui/juju-gui
[20:54] <bac> that seems...wrong
[20:54] <hatch> does it?
[20:54] <hatch> I don't think so
[20:54] <bac> you don't think it is wrong?
[20:55] <hatch> well it's saying to push to your own accounts version of it
[20:55] <hatch> not into trunk
[20:55] <hatch> https://code.launchpad.net/~juju-gui/juju-gui/trunk
[20:55] <hatch> that one shows how to push to trunk
[20:57] <bac> yeah, ok, i've never noticed that.  the pull for both is lp:juju-gui
[20:58] <hatch> yeah I'm not sure it's the 'best' option
[21:12] <gary_poster> hey bcsaller, I'm out of time.  I will be back later
[21:12] <gary_poster> if you can get another review great
[21:12] <bcsaller> no worries
[21:12] <gary_poster> if I do it, comments showing when code has been simply moved around and when a line-by-line review is actually pertinent would be helpful
[21:13] <hatch> reviewer notes +1
[22:18] <hatch> yeah I have no idea what's up with rapi
[22:19] <hatch> of course right after I say that
[22:19] <hatch> benji: python-txaws was required
[22:24] <huwshimi> Morning
[22:34] <hatch> mornin huw
[22:36] <huwshimi> comingsoon is broken?
[22:37] <hatch> odd that you aren't the first international person to say that
[22:37] <hatch> oh wait...it really IS broken
[22:37] <hatch> lol
[22:39] <huwshimi> hatch: What did you think they meant? :)
[22:39] <hatch> oh, well it really woudln't load
[22:39] <hatch> :)
[22:39] <hatch> haha
[22:42] <hatch> ugh Chai drives me absolutely bonkers
[23:33] <hatch> turns out this whole time my anger should have been directed at mocha https://github.com/visionmedia/mocha/issues/905
[23:36] <hatch> https://github.com/visionmedia/mocha/issues/903 object order bug