/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/09/19/#ubuntu+1.txt

pepee<pepee> this fix should be applied to xfce4-power-manager in ubuntu 13.10 too:  https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/1180513    https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/1180513/comments/600:16
ubottuUbuntu bug 1180513 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "lid close actions are ignored laptop always suspends" [High,Fix released]00:16
Fyodorovnapepee, I'm sure they will get right on that. ;)00:18
pepeeI hope ;)00:19
=== Rallias is now known as Rallias-Avoiding
=== Rallias-Avoiding is now known as Gasseus
tomc603Hello all, I am running Ubuntu 13.10 (not a novice or new user) and I've noticed that for several weeks now the indicator-messages indicator does not turn blue when I receive a new IM in Empathy. (x-post  from #ubuntu)05:10
tomc603I do not necessarily think this is a bug, etc. in 13.10...perhaps a package has become uninstalled, or something of that nature.05:11
tomc603Further details: I've apt-get reinstalled indicator-messages, empathy, etc. I've verified the dconf settings for the indicator/messages includes "empathy.desktop". Obviously I've rebooted as well.05:15
snadgethats nothing tomc603 .. i've lost my ctrl-alt-t shortcut06:35
snadgeits like the end of the world06:35
snadgei might add this is specific to gnome fallback session06:35
snadgeon an unrelated note.. the mouse wheel over the volume indicator applet has started working again (in gnome fallback)06:35
snadgeso.. you win some, you lose some ;)06:35
snadgeive checked the super obvious stuff, like that the keyboard shortcut is defined06:39
pepeelol06:39
snadgei tried redefining the ctrl-alt-t shortcut to something else.. and that doesnt work either06:44
snadgeso its not the key capturing thats failing, perhaps its the running the terminal command part thats failing06:44
snadgeim not sure why that would work in unity but not metacity though06:44
BluesKaj'Morning all11:02
boneslashhi Guys I need help just a little bit can someone help me :D13:01
boneslashIs there any command for downgrading from 13.10 to 13.04 Ubuntu??? :)13:02
jpds_boneslash: No.13:03
jpds_!downgrade | boneslash13:03
ubottuboneslash: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported and may break your system.13:03
boneslashjpds_ : ouch that gotta hurt :D13:04
boneslashyou know my installation wasnt completed It was running only 2,5 hours I think so It wasnt completed :(13:04
boneslashand for now I my netbook slow as f.ck :D13:05
boneslash*is13:05
boneslash!upgrade13:06
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade13:06
boneslashand I cant restart my system either :/13:07
snadgeso how do i fix ctrl-alt-t shortcut? where are the gurus? :p13:23
boneslashHI guy I dont need any downgrade so far someone said me there in downgrade I am glad there isnt my problem is gone :)13:40
Piciokay?13:41
boneslashPici, thanks a lot :)13:41
boneslashPici, I just had to install another updates and everything is running fine :)13:42
Picigood13:42
boneslashPici do you remember me from yesterday? I was asking you for help in updating I think you gave me very memorable tips thanks a lot again :))13:43
boneslashso I can say to all that Ubuntu 13.10 is running ok on Acer Aspire one - AOA110 :)13:44
vexati0nhey ubuntu devs: if "multiarch-support" really replaces "ia32-libs," how about make dpkg realize that.15:42
wilee-nileevexati0n, This is not where the devs hang, but good try.15:55
tomc603I'm having a problem with indicator-messages: When I receive a new IM, the indicator icon does not turn blue. I have re-installed empathy, indicator-messages, and several of the lib dependencies I've found...but still nothing.16:02
tomc603I've also confirmed "empathy.desktop" is in my dconf settings for the indicator/messages config.16:02
Rorytomc603: Does it affect all applications or just empathy?16:02
tomc603Empathy is the only application I really use that would send something to indicator-messages16:03
tomc603I don't use Thunderbird, in other words16:03
johnjohn1014 more weeks16:16
=== Fyodorovna is now known as wilee-nilee
tomc603No further ideas about indicator-messages or what would prevent it from displaying the blue "new message" icon?18:08
Rorytomc603: Have you considered reinstalling empathy to rule that out?18:11
Rorytomc603: Also, you should definitely find out if it's just empathy, or if it's everything that uses that technology18:12
tomc603I have done that with apt-get install --reinstall empathy empathy-common18:12
=== Maple__ is now known as o3o
tomc603Rory, I'm not sure how I'd find that out. Though, I suspect XChat is also supposed to set an indicator when you send me a message that mentions my Nick...and if that is the case, it isn't working.18:13
Rorytomc603: launch dconf-editor, go to com.canonical.indicator.messages18:15
RoryIs there an entry there called Applications? Or is the Messages section empty?18:15
tomc603Yep, xchat.desktop is in that list. So, it appeases indicator-messages isn't working for any app18:16
tomc603Yeah, I already verified that empathy.desktop is in that list as well.18:16
Rorytomc603: Does this happen in 13.04?18:17
tomc603I'm not sure. It18:17
tomc603It's been quite some time since I upgraded18:17
Rorytomc603: You are aware you're using a not-yet-released version of Ubuntu, I'm just checking?18:17
RorySo breakage is not just possible, it's expected18:17
tomc603Yes, I am. But the askubuntu list about indicator-messages is pretty clear that this isn't just a 13.10 issue18:18
RoryI assumed you did know, but some people who start in #ubuntu recently seem to be getting 13.10 from somewhere without knowing it's not just the latest version18:18
tomc603Rory, Were this a 13.10 issue, I would expect a bug to be filed...and there is not. Nor is there mention of this issue18:18
Rorytomc603: Have you considered filing a bug? You'd need to reinstall 13.10 probably to make sure it is actually a bug18:18
tomc603Yeah, and that's the part I'm trying to avoid.18:19
tomc603I can easily spin up a VM to test18:19
tomc603I just don't want to re-install if I can avoid it18:19
Rorytomc603: Does it happen if you make a new user?18:22
tomc603Rory, Not too sure. About to create a desktop VM to test18:30
tomc603Perhaps try to find package differences as well.18:30
Rorytomc603: Try a new user first it's easier18:31
Rorytomc603: That will narrow down whether it's a problem with your user's config, or with your system config or something else18:32
tomc603Rory, I'm at work, so I can't really log out of my desktop18:32
Rorytomc603: But you can play with a VM?18:32
tomc603I can start that in the background while working.18:32
Rorytomc603: You can switch users without logging out18:32
boneslashsounds pretty dangerous :D18:32
RoryHold on you're using 13.10 at work?18:33
RoryThat only just sank in18:33
tomc603Yes18:33
RoryWhat does 13.10 give you that 13.04 doesn't (apart from this problem)18:34
RoryI think you are foolish, but anyway. Try a new user, try a new installation.18:35
tomc603Newer kernel, which I needed for testing.18:35
RoryOK18:35
tomc603Also, alpha releases are actually moderately stable when you know when you should and shouldn't install updates.18:35
tomc603Rory, A new user does not receive notifications.18:48
trismtomc603: assuming the api hasn't changed in 13.10 I have a test app in python you could try to see if it is working at all: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6129529/ , also needs a .desktop file to work, something like: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6129531/ in ~/.local/share/applications/18:58
=== ampelbein_ is now known as Ampelbein
tomc603Rory, I am creating a bug report now. It's hard for me to believe _none_ of the testers have noticed this yet.19:29
RoryI think it's about time I installed Ubuntu 13.10 anyway so if you link me the bug report I will keep an eye on it19:35
RoryAnd possibly fix it, if it's Python19:35
tomc603https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-messages/+bug/122048719:35
ubottuUbuntu bug 1220487 in indicator-messages (Ubuntu) "Messages indicator does not indicate new messages" [Undecided,New]19:35
tomc603I just updated the description text to provide more specific details about the dconf settings, and mention the fact that Friends/Gwibber and Xchat do not trigger a new message notification either.19:39
boneslashI must agree with tom couple minutes ago I change the setttings and it still doesnt seems to notify me about messages, What the ... :)19:41
boneslash*changed19:41
tomc603boneslash, If you mark that bug effecting you, it may get more attention19:41
Rorytomc603: I will mark the bug as affecting me after I test it19:42
tomc603This isn't a very big deal for social media accounts. But when I don't answer IM from my boss...it's hard to explain a software bug is the cause. :-)19:42
boneslashtomc603, understand ,thanks for the information :)19:43
RoryProblem: I have no friends thus no way to test this. Can anybody else triage?19:43
boneslashno problem just pm to me or tomc603 :D19:44
=== jpierre03_ is now known as jpierre03
tomc603Hey, an update here. the test python app posted by trism does, in fact, cause the icon to go blue.19:49
boneslashI just must look if someone is writing new messages (red color or blue - my name) but sound notification doesnt work for me :(19:52
tomc603I presume these are just messages passed on DBUS?19:53
RoryOK tomc603 I'm booting up a freshly install daily image19:55
tomc603Updated the bug to include the working script, and attributed trism.19:56
Rorytomc603: Your system is fully up-to-date yes?19:56
tomc603Yes19:57
tomc603I do not enable proposed, though, on Alpha systems. For obvious reasons.19:57
RoryOf course it is, but I have to ask this stuff19:57
tomc603Well, the question you skip is usually the one that leads to the answer.19:58
Rorytomc603: Have you checked the Sounds tab of the Empathy preferences window?19:59
tomc603I only have the option to enable sound notifications there, as well as the options sound notifications gives you20:01
tomc603Nothing about visual indicator20:01
RoryOK I can replicate this20:01
boneslashI am trying to updating my system every day because I installed Ubuntu 13.10 just today :)20:02
=== Fyodorovna is now known as wilee-nilee
=== o3o is now known as Maple__

Generated by irclog2html.py 2.7 by Marius Gedminas - find it at mg.pov.lt!