pepee | <pepee> this fix should be applied to xfce4-power-manager in ubuntu 13.10 too: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/1180513 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-settings-daemon/+bug/1180513/comments/6 | 00:16 |
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ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1180513 in gnome-settings-daemon (Ubuntu) "lid close actions are ignored laptop always suspends" [High,Fix released] | 00:16 |
Fyodorovna | pepee, I'm sure they will get right on that. ;) | 00:18 |
pepee | I hope ;) | 00:19 |
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tomc603 | Hello all, I am running Ubuntu 13.10 (not a novice or new user) and I've noticed that for several weeks now the indicator-messages indicator does not turn blue when I receive a new IM in Empathy. (x-post from #ubuntu) | 05:10 |
tomc603 | I do not necessarily think this is a bug, etc. in 13.10...perhaps a package has become uninstalled, or something of that nature. | 05:11 |
tomc603 | Further details: I've apt-get reinstalled indicator-messages, empathy, etc. I've verified the dconf settings for the indicator/messages includes "empathy.desktop". Obviously I've rebooted as well. | 05:15 |
snadge | thats nothing tomc603 .. i've lost my ctrl-alt-t shortcut | 06:35 |
snadge | its like the end of the world | 06:35 |
snadge | i might add this is specific to gnome fallback session | 06:35 |
snadge | on an unrelated note.. the mouse wheel over the volume indicator applet has started working again (in gnome fallback) | 06:35 |
snadge | so.. you win some, you lose some ;) | 06:35 |
snadge | ive checked the super obvious stuff, like that the keyboard shortcut is defined | 06:39 |
pepee | lol | 06:39 |
snadge | i tried redefining the ctrl-alt-t shortcut to something else.. and that doesnt work either | 06:44 |
snadge | so its not the key capturing thats failing, perhaps its the running the terminal command part thats failing | 06:44 |
snadge | im not sure why that would work in unity but not metacity though | 06:44 |
BluesKaj | 'Morning all | 11:02 |
boneslash | hi Guys I need help just a little bit can someone help me :D | 13:01 |
boneslash | Is there any command for downgrading from 13.10 to 13.04 Ubuntu??? :) | 13:02 |
jpds_ | boneslash: No. | 13:03 |
jpds_ | !downgrade | boneslash | 13:03 |
ubottu | boneslash: Attempting to downgrade to an older Ubuntu version is explicitly not supported and may break your system. | 13:03 |
boneslash | jpds_ : ouch that gotta hurt :D | 13:04 |
boneslash | you know my installation wasnt completed It was running only 2,5 hours I think so It wasnt completed :( | 13:04 |
boneslash | and for now I my netbook slow as f.ck :D | 13:05 |
boneslash | *is | 13:05 |
boneslash | !upgrade | 13:06 |
ubottu | For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/get-ubuntu/upgrade | 13:06 |
boneslash | and I cant restart my system either :/ | 13:07 |
snadge | so how do i fix ctrl-alt-t shortcut? where are the gurus? :p | 13:23 |
boneslash | HI guy I dont need any downgrade so far someone said me there in downgrade I am glad there isnt my problem is gone :) | 13:40 |
Pici | okay? | 13:41 |
boneslash | Pici, thanks a lot :) | 13:41 |
boneslash | Pici, I just had to install another updates and everything is running fine :) | 13:42 |
Pici | good | 13:42 |
boneslash | Pici do you remember me from yesterday? I was asking you for help in updating I think you gave me very memorable tips thanks a lot again :)) | 13:43 |
boneslash | so I can say to all that Ubuntu 13.10 is running ok on Acer Aspire one - AOA110 :) | 13:44 |
vexati0n | hey ubuntu devs: if "multiarch-support" really replaces "ia32-libs," how about make dpkg realize that. | 15:42 |
wilee-nilee | vexati0n, This is not where the devs hang, but good try. | 15:55 |
tomc603 | I'm having a problem with indicator-messages: When I receive a new IM, the indicator icon does not turn blue. I have re-installed empathy, indicator-messages, and several of the lib dependencies I've found...but still nothing. | 16:02 |
tomc603 | I've also confirmed "empathy.desktop" is in my dconf settings for the indicator/messages config. | 16:02 |
Rory | tomc603: Does it affect all applications or just empathy? | 16:02 |
tomc603 | Empathy is the only application I really use that would send something to indicator-messages | 16:03 |
tomc603 | I don't use Thunderbird, in other words | 16:03 |
johnjohn101 | 4 more weeks | 16:16 |
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tomc603 | No further ideas about indicator-messages or what would prevent it from displaying the blue "new message" icon? | 18:08 |
Rory | tomc603: Have you considered reinstalling empathy to rule that out? | 18:11 |
Rory | tomc603: Also, you should definitely find out if it's just empathy, or if it's everything that uses that technology | 18:12 |
tomc603 | I have done that with apt-get install --reinstall empathy empathy-common | 18:12 |
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tomc603 | Rory, I'm not sure how I'd find that out. Though, I suspect XChat is also supposed to set an indicator when you send me a message that mentions my Nick...and if that is the case, it isn't working. | 18:13 |
Rory | tomc603: launch dconf-editor, go to com.canonical.indicator.messages | 18:15 |
Rory | Is there an entry there called Applications? Or is the Messages section empty? | 18:15 |
tomc603 | Yep, xchat.desktop is in that list. So, it appeases indicator-messages isn't working for any app | 18:16 |
tomc603 | Yeah, I already verified that empathy.desktop is in that list as well. | 18:16 |
Rory | tomc603: Does this happen in 13.04? | 18:17 |
tomc603 | I'm not sure. It | 18:17 |
tomc603 | It's been quite some time since I upgraded | 18:17 |
Rory | tomc603: You are aware you're using a not-yet-released version of Ubuntu, I'm just checking? | 18:17 |
Rory | So breakage is not just possible, it's expected | 18:17 |
tomc603 | Yes, I am. But the askubuntu list about indicator-messages is pretty clear that this isn't just a 13.10 issue | 18:18 |
Rory | I assumed you did know, but some people who start in #ubuntu recently seem to be getting 13.10 from somewhere without knowing it's not just the latest version | 18:18 |
tomc603 | Rory, Were this a 13.10 issue, I would expect a bug to be filed...and there is not. Nor is there mention of this issue | 18:18 |
Rory | tomc603: Have you considered filing a bug? You'd need to reinstall 13.10 probably to make sure it is actually a bug | 18:18 |
tomc603 | Yeah, and that's the part I'm trying to avoid. | 18:19 |
tomc603 | I can easily spin up a VM to test | 18:19 |
tomc603 | I just don't want to re-install if I can avoid it | 18:19 |
Rory | tomc603: Does it happen if you make a new user? | 18:22 |
tomc603 | Rory, Not too sure. About to create a desktop VM to test | 18:30 |
tomc603 | Perhaps try to find package differences as well. | 18:30 |
Rory | tomc603: Try a new user first it's easier | 18:31 |
Rory | tomc603: That will narrow down whether it's a problem with your user's config, or with your system config or something else | 18:32 |
tomc603 | Rory, I'm at work, so I can't really log out of my desktop | 18:32 |
Rory | tomc603: But you can play with a VM? | 18:32 |
tomc603 | I can start that in the background while working. | 18:32 |
Rory | tomc603: You can switch users without logging out | 18:32 |
boneslash | sounds pretty dangerous :D | 18:32 |
Rory | Hold on you're using 13.10 at work? | 18:33 |
Rory | That only just sank in | 18:33 |
tomc603 | Yes | 18:33 |
Rory | What does 13.10 give you that 13.04 doesn't (apart from this problem) | 18:34 |
Rory | I think you are foolish, but anyway. Try a new user, try a new installation. | 18:35 |
tomc603 | Newer kernel, which I needed for testing. | 18:35 |
Rory | OK | 18:35 |
tomc603 | Also, alpha releases are actually moderately stable when you know when you should and shouldn't install updates. | 18:35 |
tomc603 | Rory, A new user does not receive notifications. | 18:48 |
trism | tomc603: assuming the api hasn't changed in 13.10 I have a test app in python you could try to see if it is working at all: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6129529/ , also needs a .desktop file to work, something like: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6129531/ in ~/.local/share/applications/ | 18:58 |
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tomc603 | Rory, I am creating a bug report now. It's hard for me to believe _none_ of the testers have noticed this yet. | 19:29 |
Rory | I think it's about time I installed Ubuntu 13.10 anyway so if you link me the bug report I will keep an eye on it | 19:35 |
Rory | And possibly fix it, if it's Python | 19:35 |
tomc603 | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/indicator-messages/+bug/1220487 | 19:35 |
ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1220487 in indicator-messages (Ubuntu) "Messages indicator does not indicate new messages" [Undecided,New] | 19:35 |
tomc603 | I just updated the description text to provide more specific details about the dconf settings, and mention the fact that Friends/Gwibber and Xchat do not trigger a new message notification either. | 19:39 |
boneslash | I must agree with tom couple minutes ago I change the setttings and it still doesnt seems to notify me about messages, What the ... :) | 19:41 |
boneslash | *changed | 19:41 |
tomc603 | boneslash, If you mark that bug effecting you, it may get more attention | 19:41 |
Rory | tomc603: I will mark the bug as affecting me after I test it | 19:42 |
tomc603 | This isn't a very big deal for social media accounts. But when I don't answer IM from my boss...it's hard to explain a software bug is the cause. :-) | 19:42 |
boneslash | tomc603, understand ,thanks for the information :) | 19:43 |
Rory | Problem: I have no friends thus no way to test this. Can anybody else triage? | 19:43 |
boneslash | no problem just pm to me or tomc603 :D | 19:44 |
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tomc603 | Hey, an update here. the test python app posted by trism does, in fact, cause the icon to go blue. | 19:49 |
boneslash | I just must look if someone is writing new messages (red color or blue - my name) but sound notification doesnt work for me :( | 19:52 |
tomc603 | I presume these are just messages passed on DBUS? | 19:53 |
Rory | OK tomc603 I'm booting up a freshly install daily image | 19:55 |
tomc603 | Updated the bug to include the working script, and attributed trism. | 19:56 |
Rory | tomc603: Your system is fully up-to-date yes? | 19:56 |
tomc603 | Yes | 19:57 |
tomc603 | I do not enable proposed, though, on Alpha systems. For obvious reasons. | 19:57 |
Rory | Of course it is, but I have to ask this stuff | 19:57 |
tomc603 | Well, the question you skip is usually the one that leads to the answer. | 19:58 |
Rory | tomc603: Have you checked the Sounds tab of the Empathy preferences window? | 19:59 |
tomc603 | I only have the option to enable sound notifications there, as well as the options sound notifications gives you | 20:01 |
tomc603 | Nothing about visual indicator | 20:01 |
Rory | OK I can replicate this | 20:01 |
boneslash | I am trying to updating my system every day because I installed Ubuntu 13.10 just today :) | 20:02 |
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