[11:28] <Vanfanel> hi there
[11:29] <Vanfanel> I'm trying to install Ubuntu Core on an OMAP board, following these instructions here:
[11:29] <Vanfanel> http://www.omappedia.com/wiki/OMAP_Ubuntu_Core
[11:29] <Vanfanel> what are the repositories to add for 13.04, please??
[14:14] <Vanfanel> Hi, is the Pandaboard binary-based 3D system (EGL, GLES) supported on Ubuntu 13.x?
[14:16] <ogra> yes, it should be installed and set up by default
[14:23] <Vanfanel> ogra: and what about setting up the system from Ubuntu-core?
[14:24] <Vanfanel> is it possible to setup 3D on ubuntu-core 13.x?
[14:24] <ogra> ubuntu core isnt for endusers .... it is supposed ot be a base for image designers and the like (you can also abuse it as cheap chroot for building things)
[14:25] <ogra> use the desktop install if you want working GLES out of the box
[14:26] <Vanfanel> I have setup ubuntu-core already on 12.04 and could install TI's kernel and 3D support
[14:26] <Vanfanel> so I'm up to the task... with the proper PPA
[14:26] <Vanfanel> because I'm following this guide: http://www.omappedia.com/wiki/OMAP_Ubuntu_Core
[14:27] <Vanfanel> and it seems impossible to add the PPA on 13.04
[14:27] <Vanfanel> I also tried "add-apt-repository ppa:tiomap-dev/release"
[14:27] <Vanfanel> but it only works on 12.04
[14:28] <Vanfanel> So, how could I add the "binary" TI PPA on 13.x?
[14:28] <Vanfanel> once I have that set up, I should be ready to go on with 13.x
[14:31] <Vanfanel> If I asked an stupid question, please tell me also :D
[14:35] <ogra> no, but you are using a totally unsupported and untested setup
[14:35] <ogra> and the PPA will most likely break your install if you have working GLES now
[14:36] <ogra> (the panda is dead beef since quite some time, the TI team that cares for it is gone ... the panda images in ubuntu are largely unmaintained)
[14:39] <Vanfanel> ogra: thanks, I know I am on an unsupported setup
[14:40] <Vanfanel> but I have GLES working on 12.04
[14:40] <ogra> well, its rather unpredictable what will happen ...
[14:40] <Vanfanel> (12.04 Ubuntu core)
[14:40] <ogra> so i guess it means trial and error for you and keep the pieces if it breaks
[14:41] <Vanfanel> yes, so I am trying but there seems to be no good way to do "add-apt-repository ppa:tiomap-dev/release" on 13.04
[14:41] <Vanfanel> it only works on 12.04 systems
[14:41] <Vanfanel> does that make any sense?
[14:42] <ogra> yes
[14:42] <Vanfanel> but... if 3D comes included on 13.04...
[14:42] <Vanfanel> how comes the PPA cant be added?
[14:43] <Vanfanel> is 13.04 an "ubuntu arm" thing without any TI's support?
[14:43] <ogra> the PPA only has gstreamer codecs ... no GLES drivers ... the archive has GLES drivers that only work with the kernel in the archive (nobody wanted to port the 1700 patches to mainline for PVR support)
[14:43] <ogra> if you use the PPA you get a kernel update ... that breaks the drivers in the archive
[14:44] <ogra> (somewhere between these two bits appeared, TI shot down the mobile division including panda development)
[14:45] <Vanfanel> sorry if I look a bit dumb, english is not my main language: does that mean that, with 13.04, there's no need for an external PPA and 3D support comes included with the default kernel??
[14:46] <ogra> the 3D support didnt change between 12.04 and today
[14:46] <ogra> it should still work the same as long as you only use the archive
[14:47] <Vanfanel> ogra, what archive?
[14:47] <ogra> ubuntu
[14:48] <Vanfanel> ehm...
[14:48] <Vanfanel> the default install image?
[14:49] <ogra> yes
[14:56] <Vanfanel> ogra: is there an special omap4 package containig /usr/lib/GL/gl.h or should I install the mesa dev package?
[14:56] <ogra> no, you want the pvr driver
[14:56] <ogra> use the desktop image ...
[14:56] <ogra> i doubt anyone will remember off the top of his head what you need to do to set it up
[14:57] <Vanfanel> the desktop image is unusably slow
[14:57] <Vanfanel> and I don't need a desktop enviroment at all
[15:17] <Vanfanel> ogra: It seems I don't need GL/gl.h after all :)
[15:18] <ogra> just for building stuff
[15:18] <ogra> and there indeed the mesa package should have all you need
[15:21] <Vanfanel> I'm trying to compile a program that uses KMS+EGL, no need for desktop GL if well configured before compiling