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| sarnold | smoser: lintian throws some warnings and errors on simplestreams, e.g. http://paste.ubuntu.com/6126373/ | 01:29 |
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| smoser | sarnold, do do you have any idea what would do that ? | 01:31 |
| smoser | i udnestand the man pages. | 01:32 |
| smoser | but dont understand how 'python3:any' got in there. | 01:32 |
| sarnold | smoser: not a clue on bad-provided-package-name python3:any -- is that ":any" supposed to be there? | 01:33 |
| smoser | $ grep any debian/control || echo no | 01:33 |
| smoser | no | 01:33 |
| smoser | ? | 01:33 |
| smoser | i'm sure its something 'ive done stupid. but i dont have a clue. | 01:33 |
| sarnold | haha | 01:33 |
| smoser | (which is probably why i'm 'so sure it was something that i've done stupid) | 01:33 |
| sarnold | man, I just hoped you'd know right off the top of your head a typo somewhere, but .. that's really confusing. | 01:35 |
| jbicha | python3:any is new but it's ok http://lists.debian.org/debian-python/2013/09/msg00044.html | 01:50 |
| jbicha | I guess you need to report a lintian bug then | 01:50 |
| xnox | dobey: rbasak if the python3 converted code leaked into the python2 package that indeed is bad (or vice versa) | 02:19 |
| xnox | dobey: rbasak: i'll double check it. But if you say it broke u1, surely it should have been stuck in -proposed because of u1's auto-package-tests, right?! | 02:20 |
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| Noskcaj | Can someone hit "rebuild" for language-pack-as and mesa? one failed in chroot the other failed to upload | 06:19 |
| infinity | Noskcaj: Done. | 06:24 |
| Noskcaj | thanks | 06:24 |
| dholbach | good morning | 06:56 |
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| smartboyhw | dholbach, many, many, thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 08:22 |
| rbasak | nnnnnnnnnn/sb end | 08:33 |
| Noskcaj | smartboyhw, That was a bit over-the-top, can you explain | 08:33 |
| smartboyhw | Noskcaj, for sponsoring ubuntustudio-look :) | 08:34 |
| smartboyhw | Noskcaj, and I'm not saying it to you:P | 08:34 |
| Noskcaj | smartboyhw, I'm allow to be interested. It looks like studio will have a good release for 13.10 | 08:34 |
| Noskcaj | Does anyone have a good pbuilderrc file for pbuilder-dist i can copy? it needs at least debian sid and ubuntu saucy support | 08:56 |
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| cjwatson | Grr, I'd hoped I'd never have to use a hardy chroot again | 10:11 |
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| bluesabre | dholbach: thanks for sponsoring several of xubuntu's pending packages | 12:14 |
| bluesabre | would it be possible for you to take a look at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/shimmer-themes/+bug/1227402 as well? | 12:15 |
| bluesabre | it updates each of our themes to their latest version which fixes some minor buglets and addresses some transitionary items | 12:15 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1227402 in shimmer-themes (Ubuntu) "Please update shimmer-themes to 1.6.2" [Undecided,Confirmed] | 12:16 |
| dholbach | bluesabre, I had a very brief look at it but couldn't quite figure out what to do with the debdiff or the branch | 12:16 |
| bluesabre | ochosi, our artwork lead, would have additional details to the changes involved | 12:16 |
| bluesabre | ah | 12:16 |
| dholbach | in either case I couldn't produce a source package out of it | 12:16 |
| bluesabre | I see | 12:16 |
| dholbach | let me add a comment to the bug so whoever takes care of it can leave some pointers for either myself or another sponsor | 12:17 |
| bluesabre | thanks a lot | 12:17 |
| bluesabre | normally we'd have one of our devs with upload rights take care of it, but both are currently away and are likely to miss the UIF | 12:17 |
| ochosi | dholbach: thanks for your uploads so far, it's really great for us because (what bluesabre just said) | 12:19 |
| dholbach | ochosi, bluesabre: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/shimmer-themes/+bug/1227402 | 12:21 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1227402 in shimmer-themes (Ubuntu) "Please update shimmer-themes to 1.6.2" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 12:21 |
| bluesabre | thanks dholbach | 12:22 |
| dholbach | I know I could just sign the source package which is in the branch (why?), but I wanted to understand a bit better what I'm uploading there :-) | 12:22 |
| bluesabre | fair enough. We have one developer who has been the sole maintainer of that package. We basically drop the latest git-tags of each theme into there and run debuild -S to produce the latest | 12:24 |
| dholbach | ah no, hang on | 12:24 |
| bluesabre | as to what he usually does then, its beyond me, but since he has direct upload, its probably known only to him | 12:24 |
| dholbach | bluesabre, ochosi: I still don't know how it's put together, but I could rebuild the source package and can upload it - I just took the liberty of adding (LP: #1227402) to the changelog entry so the bug gets closed automatically | 12:28 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 1227402 in shimmer-themes (Ubuntu) "Please update shimmer-themes to 1.6.2" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1227402 | 12:28 |
| dholbach | bluesabre, ochosi: maybe you can suggest adding a debian/README which describes how it's put together | 12:28 |
| ochosi | dholbach: thanks a *lot* ! i can tell you this was a lot of work to put together (i mean the artwork stuff, but maybe also the complicated packaging, who knows ;)) and I'm happy to see it land before UIF | 12:29 |
| bluesabre | dholbach: yes, we've already requested the usual developer to do so when he's around next | 12:29 |
| dholbach | bluesabre, ochosi: uploaded | 12:30 |
| ochosi | \o/ | 12:31 |
| dholbach | rock on! | 12:31 |
| bluesabre | dude, you rock! | 12:31 |
| ochosi | +1 | 12:31 |
| dholbach | keep up the good work! | 12:31 |
| ochosi | dholbach: a big thank-you from the xubuntu dev-community! | 12:32 |
| davmor2 | bluesabre: no dholbach doesn't rock, more trance/techno/dance/dubstep | 12:32 |
| bluesabre | haha | 12:33 |
| dholbach | I think what's happening here is that davmor2 is trying to sneak his own music wishlist in :-P | 12:33 |
| bluesabre | probably makes the loco meetings more fun | 12:33 |
| doko | glatzor online? | 12:34 |
| pitti | Good morning | 12:35 |
| davmor2 | dholbach: No, just going for accuracy, I've heard you DJ it definitely isn't rock, it does however fall nicely into the other categories :D | 12:35 |
| dholbach | I'm not quite sure about the categories, but yeah, Rock doesn't happen that often ;-) | 12:36 |
| doko | pitti, apport-noui wants to demote. expected? | 12:39 |
| pitti | doko: yes, we don't need that on the phone any more | 12:39 |
| pitti | doko: and server guys certainly want to continue with -cli | 12:39 |
| pitti | it was a bit of an evolutionary dead end; I should discuss with ev whether we'll still need it at all | 12:40 |
| doko | ok, demoted | 12:40 |
| doko | jamespage, your libunwind merge ftbfs on every architecture | 12:48 |
| jamespage | doko, yeah - I know | 12:49 |
| doko | good =) | 12:49 |
| jamespage | doko, something odd about linking for the mini-debug-info stuff | 12:49 |
| doko | urgh | 12:49 |
| doko | anything more specific? | 12:50 |
| jamespage | doko, I need to refresh my memory | 12:50 |
| jamespage | that happened > 2 weeks ago | 12:50 |
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| jamespage | doko, the lzma linking was failing for one of the test binaries | 12:51 |
| jamespage | I think I see that someone fixed upstream - I'll take another look | 12:52 |
| doko | xnox, can I assign this one to you? bug #1227639 | 13:07 |
| ubottu | bug 1227639 in python-repoze.lru (Ubuntu Saucy) "[MIR] python-repoze.lru needed as a b-d for routes" [High,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1227639 | 13:07 |
| jamespage | doko, this is the build failure I see on i386 | 13:14 |
| jamespage | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6128253/ | 13:14 |
| jamespage | amd64 works OK | 13:14 |
| doko | jamespage, looks like libunwind-coredump.so isn't linked with lzma | 13:14 |
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| doko | fails on the buildd on amd64 too | 13:18 |
| jamespage | doko, oh - does it? | 13:19 |
| dobey | xnox: paste doesn't work under python 3 either. the patches to make it "work" with 3 as well as 2 are broken. u1db dosen't have an autopkgtest yet, because i wasn't able to make it work right when i was trying to get it working, so i had to leave it out. i've recently discovered another way to do the tests for it though that might work, so i can try to get that in, but the package will of course be held in -proposed because pa | 13:19 |
| jamespage | doko, ignore the failure for the one currently in proposed | 13:19 |
| jamespage | the test failure is me not reading my own README.source | 13:19 |
| doko | ahh, good =) | 13:19 |
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| speakman | Hi folks. I'm trying to build a package using pbuilder-dist, but it insists on running tests and since it's an x11 program it won't pass. How can I disable testing during pbuilder-dist build? | 13:27 |
| JackYu | dholbash, hi | 13:40 |
| rbasak | speakman: I don't know about pbuilder specifically, but in general you need to set or get it to set DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=nocheck when running debian/rules. With sbuild you can just set the environment variable and it passes through. | 13:42 |
| rbasak | (this assumes the packaging supports this standard) | 13:43 |
| Laney | is there a trick to make debmirror download Contents? | 13:45 |
| cjwatson | --getcontents | 13:46 |
| Laney | I got that | 13:46 |
| cjwatson | Not sure then | 13:46 |
| speakman | rsajdok: thanks, but I can't find a way to pass the DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS envvar to the "pbuilder" environment. I'll just try to set it in the running environment and hope for it to come along. | 13:46 |
| speakman | Looks like it worked! :) | 13:47 |
| smoser | hey. i was looknig at germinate output, basically auditing build process of cloud images. | 13:54 |
| smoser | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/1224504 | 13:54 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1224504 in Ubuntu "cloud image package list differs from germinate output" [Medium,Confirmed] | 13:54 |
| smoser | the build process installs 'ubuntu-minimal' explicitly. | 13:54 |
| pitti | jibel: do you know why the new python3.3 wasn't held back by the failing apport test? | 13:54 |
| smoser | is there any reason why we would do that? and if so, is there a reason I should'nt just add it to a seed ? And if so, why would it not be part of all seeds ? | 13:55 |
| pitti | jibel: someting changed in MIMEText which breaks the handling of encoding (I'm not yet sure whether apport did things wrong all the years or it's a bug in py3.3), but I thought such things were supposed to be kept in -proposed | 13:55 |
| speakman | Where do I fetch the final .deb when pbuilder is done? It looks disappeard currently. | 13:55 |
| jamespage | doko, OK - fix uploaded for libunwind | 13:56 |
| cjwatson | smoser: Most of the packages you list there are installed conditionally and mustn't be seeded | 13:56 |
| cjwatson | smoser: and if you try to add ubuntu-minimal to any other seed you will blow things up | 13:57 |
| cjwatson | smoser: is any of this actually important? :-) | 13:57 |
| cjwatson | smoser: You absolutely must not seed grub-pc. | 13:57 |
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| cjwatson | smoser: (because that's hardware-dependent) | 13:58 |
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| ogra | it might put some pressure up to get the armhf port ready :) | 13:58 |
| cjwatson | ogra: I mean even within a single architecture. | 13:59 |
| ogra | yeah | 13:59 |
| smoser | cjwatson, i wont seed grub-pc. but couldn't i ? | 13:59 |
| jibel | cjwatson, has python3-defaults been forced to -release ? The test result is "apport 2.12.2-0ubuntu1 FAIL apport 2.12.2-0ubuntu1 python3-defaults 3.3.2-14ubuntu1" but it wasn't held back | 13:59 |
| cjwatson | smoser: efi, sure | 13:59 |
| cjwatson | ly | 13:59 |
| bjsnider | dobey, i reported a bug to debian yesterday on that apt issue and they argued themselves out of it being apt-s fault and closed it | 13:59 |
| cjwatson | smoser: It's generally a fundamental mistake to assume that the BIOS variant is the only one | 13:59 |
| smoser | none of it is really important, no. but i was just trying to understand why we would install 'ubuntu-minimal' and 'ubuntu-cloudimg^' | 13:59 |
| cjwatson | jibel: No, I sorted out some associated bugs but I didn't force it | 14:00 |
| cjwatson | smoser: It's usually a good idea to have the metapackages installed to aid upgrades | 14:00 |
| cjwatson | smoser: You've kind of misunderstood seed structure inheritance though | 14:00 |
| cjwatson | smoser: The cloud-image seed inherits from standard, yes, which means that germinate computes its expansion starting from the assumption that everything in standard and below is already installed | 14:01 |
| pitti | jibel, cjwatson: oh, I guess it's because apport depends on python3, not on python3.3 directly | 14:01 |
| cjwatson | smoser: But that doesn't translate into package dependencies | 14:01 |
| pitti | jibel, cjwatson: so it's again a transitive dependency, which we don't yet do unfortunately | 14:01 |
| speakman | How do I get the resulting .deb package after pbuilder is finished? | 14:01 |
| speakman | I can't even find the resulting name anywhere on my disk. | 14:02 |
| pitti | (especially because changes in python-defaults are much less prone to break other python stuff than changes in the actual python interpreters) | 14:02 |
| cjwatson | smoser: We deliberately omit those dependencies because if we include them then somebody who wants to vary a single choice we've made in, say, ubuntu-minimal, then has to remove ubuntu-standard and ubuntu-desktop as well | 14:02 |
| cjwatson | (or whatever) | 14:02 |
| cjwatson | smoser: So you need to track the seed inheritance structure when installing the metapackages/tasks in images | 14:02 |
| cjwatson | smoser: IOW you can't assume that installing a task higher in the structure will automatically pull in ubuntu-minimal - it won't | 14:03 |
| pitti | jibel: ok, nevermind then; I guess we just need to switch to transitive checks at some point | 14:03 |
| cjwatson | smoser: does that help? | 14:03 |
| smoser | maybe. but now i'm more confused. | 14:03 |
| smoser | so the change i made to structure | 14:03 |
| speakman | ping cjwatson and rbasak, any ideas how to reach the created .deb package from pbuilder? | 14:03 |
| cjwatson | speakman: I don't use pbuilder | 14:04 |
| smoser | that does not indicate that cloud image is a strict superset of server ? | 14:04 |
| speakman | cjwatson: ok :/ | 14:04 |
| cjwatson | smoser: Sure, but it doesn't translate into dependencies from any metapackage you generate from cloud-image | 14:05 |
| cjwatson | smoser: Nor does it mean that, e.g., the server task implicitly includes standard | 14:05 |
| cjwatson | it doesn't | 14:05 |
| cjwatson | smoser: now, ubuntu-minimal is probably unnecessary for a different reason: it's included by debootstrap | 14:06 |
| cjwatson | speakman: IIRC it's in something like /var/cache/pbuilder/result/ though | 14:06 |
| cjwatson | speakman: sbuild is more helpful: puts results in the current directory | 14:06 |
| smoser | i dont understand. what you mean by "the server task implicitly includes standard". | 14:07 |
| doko | jibel, is there something wrong? | 14:07 |
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| smoser | my understanding was that it *explicitly* in STRUCTURE includes standard. | 14:07 |
| JackYu | robert_ancell, hi | 14:07 |
| cjwatson | smoser: That only affects how germinate expands the dependencies | 14:07 |
| cjwatson | smoser: It intentionally doesn't translate into the Task fields in the archive | 14:07 |
| robert_ancell | JackYu, hello | 14:08 |
| cjwatson | smoser: If nothing else, I have no interest in bloating the Packages file with a gazillion Task fields for everything in minimal ... | 14:08 |
| JackYu | robert_ancell, would you help to upload the fcitx-qimpanel at bug #1226492? | 14:09 |
| ubottu | bug 1226492 in UbuntuKylin "[FFE]upload fcitx-qimpanel into archive" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1226492 | 14:09 |
| smoser | cjwatson, so we *should* be explicitly installing server^ in the build process ? | 14:09 |
| smoser | if in fact we want to say "its server + stuff" | 14:09 |
| cjwatson | smoser: Yes | 14:09 |
| robert_ancell | JackYu, that has nothing to do with me | 14:09 |
| cjwatson | smoser: compare live-build/auto/config in livecd-rootfs | 14:10 |
| JackYu | robert_ancell, oh, sorry. I saw you are the Pilot today:) | 14:10 |
| cjwatson | xubuntu) | 14:10 |
| cjwatson | add_task install minimal standard xubuntu-desktop | 14:10 |
| robert_ancell | JackYu, sorry, not available at the moment | 14:11 |
| smoser | that seems repetitive. but OK. | 14:11 |
| cjwatson | smoser: a bit, yes. IIRC I tried the alternatives and they were worse. | 14:11 |
| cjwatson | (for other reasons) | 14:12 |
| smoser | ok then. do you have feelings on if i should put STRUCTURE back ? | 14:12 |
| cjwatson | smoser: That depends on whether you want cloud-image to be dependency-expanded with respect to server | 14:13 |
| cjwatson | I don't think my feelings come into it :) | 14:13 |
| JackYu | robert_ancell, That's all right. Would you introduce someone available? | 14:13 |
| cjwatson | smoser: That said, cloud-image looks substantively duplicated from server | 14:13 |
| cjwatson | smoser: So it does look as though that STRUCTURE change might be a mistake | 14:13 |
| cjwatson | smoser: Either that, or there's a load of stuff in cloud-image that should now be deleted because it's already in server | 14:13 |
| cjwatson | smoser: Either way, you should indeed make the image build process line up with the seed structure | 14:14 |
| speakman | cjwatson: sbuild..? | 14:14 |
| cjwatson | smoser: And consider the future question of whether you might ever want something in the default server install but *not* in cloud images | 14:14 |
| cjwatson | speakman: apt-cache show | 14:14 |
| robert_ancell | JackYu, according to the bug you need an archive administrator which is someone from https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-archive/+members#active | 14:14 |
| smoser | alright. i'm gong to revert that change for now. | 14:15 |
| robert_ancell | JackYu, like cjwatson :) | 14:15 |
| cjwatson | speakman: and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SimpleSbuild | 14:15 |
| cjwatson | robert_ancell: he still needs a sponsor to upload it ... | 14:15 |
| JackYu | robert_ancell, thank:) | 14:15 |
| cjwatson | not like me | 14:15 |
| cjwatson | I have a million things to do today | 14:16 |
| speakman | cjwatson: thanks | 14:16 |
| JackYu | cjwatson, robert_ancell, yes, I'm looking for a sponsor... | 14:16 |
| robert_ancell | Laney, why does bug 1226492 need an archive admin? | 14:16 |
| ubottu | bug 1226492 in UbuntuKylin "[FFE]upload fcitx-qimpanel into archive" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1226492 | 14:16 |
| speakman | cjwatson: A quick one; can I build i386 binaries on an x86_64 platform with sbuild? That's why I'm using pbuilder atm. | 14:17 |
| JackYu | I know cjwatson is very busy:) | 14:17 |
| cjwatson | speakman: Yes, I do it all the time, you just need an i386 chroot | 14:17 |
| cjwatson | xnox: Would you have time to run an update of app-install-data-ubuntu in preparation for final beta? I notice you did some in raring | 14:17 |
| xnox | cjwatson: correct. Yeap, I can do that now. | 14:17 |
| speakman | cjwatson: thanks! :) | 14:18 |
| pitti | doko: seems last py3.3 is missing a Replaces: ? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6128496/ | 14:20 |
| cjwatson | speakman: (and rest per that wiki page) | 14:20 |
| pitti | doko: want a bug report for that? | 14:21 |
| doko | pitti, hmm, it should have one ... | 14:21 |
| pitti | doko: not for libpython3.3-stdlib, only for pyton3.3 and python3.3-minimal | 14:22 |
| doko | pitti, ok :-/ are the autopkg tests succeeding? | 14:23 |
| pitti | doko: for py3.3? yes, they got fixed; thanks! | 14:23 |
| pitti | we don't test upgrades in britney, though, so above upgrade bug wasn't detected | 14:24 |
| JackYu | pitti, hi, would please help to review the FFE request at bug #1226492? | 14:27 |
| ubottu | bug 1226492 in UbuntuKylin "[FFE]upload fcitx-qimpanel into archive" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1226492 | 14:27 |
| pitti | JackYu: I'm not in the release team | 14:27 |
| JackYu | pitti: you are an archive administrator? | 14:28 |
| pitti | JackYu: yes | 14:28 |
| JackYu | pitti: Laney said this FFE needs an archive administrator agree:) | 14:29 |
| pitti | for NEW review, I guess; can do next week, I'm at a conference this week | 14:29 |
| doko | pitti, uploaded | 14:29 |
| pitti | doko: danke sehr | 14:30 |
| JackYu | pitti, this package would be installed in UbuntuKylin. we need upload this package first before upgrade our default-settings package:). | 14:30 |
| speakman | sbuild doesn't like --jobs=13. At least it doesn't pass it to dpkg-buildpackage | 14:37 |
| cjwatson | speakman: Are you sure? Remember that packages have to take explicit care to honour that. | 14:38 |
| speakman | cjwatson: I did work using pbuild and it's the same package. | 14:38 |
| cjwatson | "j|jobs=i" => sub { | 14:38 |
| cjwatson | push(@{$self->get_conf('DPKG_BUILDPACKAGE_USER_OPTIONS')}, | 14:38 |
| cjwatson | '-j'.$_[1]) | 14:38 |
| cjwatson | }, | 14:38 |
| cjwatson | seems fairly straightforward, in sbuild | 14:38 |
| cjwatson | speakman: What pbuilder invocation were you using to do this? | 14:40 |
| cjwatson | Because AFAICS parallel-build support isn't built into pbuilder ... | 14:40 |
| speakman | cjwatson: --debbuildopts | 14:41 |
| cjwatson | Perhaps use "ps aux" while sbuild is running to see what the dpkg-buildpackage command line actually is | 14:42 |
| speakman | /usr/bin/perl /usr/bin/dpkg-buildpackage -us -uc -mDaniel Nyström <daniel@nystrom.st> -b -rfakeroot -j13 | 14:43 |
| speakman | HM... | 14:44 |
| Riddell | ogra: do you know if the ubuntu desktop "Texas Instruments OMAP4 (Hard-Float) desktop image" images are working currently? I can't get today's daily to do anything | 14:44 |
| ogra | Riddell, i have no clue | 14:44 |
| * ogra hasnt touched a panda in ages | 14:45 | |
| speakman | cjwatson: http://pastebin.com/Cxpm42Ea | 14:45 |
| speakman | cjwatson: that's my sbuildrc | 14:45 |
| ogra | and i dont knw who is up to test them or something | 14:45 |
| Riddell | ogra: do you know if anyone is looking out for it as part of beta 2? | 14:45 |
| cjwatson | speakman: sbuild is fine based on that command | 14:45 |
| ogra | nope | 14:45 |
| Riddell | ogra: what hardware are the cool kids running these days? | 14:45 |
| ogra | Riddell, either desktop or QA i would imagine | 14:45 |
| speakman | cjwatson: I also have to make sure it doesn't run any tests (nocheck in DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS), how do I pass that to sbuild? Just setting the env var? | 14:45 |
| cjwatson | since it's manifestly passing it through | 14:45 |
| cjwatson | speakman: yep | 14:46 |
| ogra | Riddell, ubuntu touch on nexus devices :) | 14:46 |
| cjwatson | speakman: sbuild sanitises the environment but DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS is one of the ones it lets through | 14:47 |
| speakman | cjwatson: Great! | 14:47 |
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| Maple__ | fasf | 14:53 |
| Maple__ | you know | 14:53 |
| Maple__ | this needs +t | 14:53 |
| cjwatson | Maple__: it's deliberate since in practice it's not much of a problem | 14:55 |
| Maple__ | ...if you say so. | 14:56 |
| cjwatson | Maple__: And you don't seem to have actually changed anything from my point of view, just set it to the previous value | 14:56 |
| cjwatson | I do say so | 14:56 |
| cjwatson | If it becomes a practical problem we'll revisit | 14:56 |
| cjwatson | (If kicking offenders isn't sufficient) | 14:56 |
| speakman | cjwatson: and finally - after one day of trying to "cross" compile for i386 I did get one .i386.deb five minutes before "deadline". :D | 14:58 |
| speakman | cjwatson: thanks a lot for helping! | 14:58 |
| cjwatson | you're welcome | 14:59 |
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| cjwatson | I still do almost all my Debian uploads as i386 despite my host system being amd64, so it's a familiar process | 14:59 |
| * xnox started to do _multi and merge amd64&i386 uploads for some of my builds. | 15:07 | |
| pitti | xnox: is "_multi" something sbuild-ish, or just means "you build for multiple architectures and merge the .changes? | 15:24 |
| cjwatson | pitti: Not sbuildish, just convention - dak doesn't actually care what the bit between _ and .changes is | 15:26 |
| xnox | pitti: build for multiple architectures, then use mergechanges -f foo*.changes. | 15:26 |
| cjwatson | pitti: mergechanges(1) produces _multi though | 15:27 |
| pitti | cjwatson: oh, as in "part of the .changes filename", thanks | 15:27 |
| xnox | pitti: mergechanges, defaults to _multi.changes suffix to not clobber up the rest (source, $arch) . changes. | 15:27 |
| pitti | nice, I didn't know about mergechanges | 15:27 |
| xnox | pitti: on #ubuntu-release & in-person there were requests about langpacks refresh. Not sure if it's time to do them again yet, or not. | 15:28 |
| pitti | xnox: we missed doing fresh -base ones for beta | 15:28 |
| xnox | cause e.g. archive rebuild is in progress. | 15:28 |
| xnox | pitti: =( ok. | 15:28 |
| pitti | xnox: I guess the next sensible -bsae refresh one would be before final beta, and/or final | 15:29 |
| pitti | xnox: but that's mostly about reducing image size | 15:29 |
| xnox | ack. | 15:29 |
| pitti | xnox: updates from LP are auto-uploaded twice a week | 15:29 |
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| dobey | xnox: still around? | 16:45 |
| pitti | doko: "Jenkins Fixed - saucy-adt-python2.7" \o/ thanks! | 16:47 |
| dholbach | doko, barry: who could take a look at https://code.launchpad.net/~mitya57/ubuntu/saucy/python-defaults/2.7.5-5ubuntu1/+merge/185620? | 17:13 |
| * dobey wonders what to do about paste | 17:14 | |
| xnox | dobey: yeah, here. | 17:15 |
| xnox | dobey: i think i fixed lint.py in debian now, what packages / where was paste failing for you? | 17:15 |
| xnox | dobey: so waiting on lp mirror to pick it up to merge it. | 17:15 |
| dobey | xnox: fixed it how? | 17:15 |
| xnox | it did unbreak convoy at least. | 17:15 |
| dobey | xnox: did you fix the package to run the unit tests at build time as well? | 17:15 |
| dholbach | happyaron, is https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libchewing/+bug/1220224 something we still want to get into saucy? | 17:16 |
| ubottu | Ubuntu bug 1220224 in libchewing (Ubuntu) "Sync libchewing 0.3.5-2 (main) from Debian unstable (main)" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 17:16 |
| xnox | dobey: which one? paste's? that's failing from before i started to touch it, so no, i didn't enable it. | 17:16 |
| dobey | xnox: it breaks u1db | 17:16 |
| dobey | xnox: yes paste. there seem to be a lot more issues than simply the StringType issue | 17:16 |
| xnox | dobey: let me test it know, just debuild would do? or do I need to run it? | 17:17 |
| happyaron | dholbach: I think it's nice to have. | 17:17 |
| dobey | xnox: debuild should be enough, it runs the tests during the build | 17:17 |
| dholbach | happyaron, ok, it's still sitting in the sponsoring queue | 17:17 |
| happyaron | good | 17:17 |
| xnox | dobey: doing test-build against the updated paste now. | 17:17 |
| dobey | xnox: can you link to the fix you applied to paste? | 17:18 |
| xnox | dobey: build succesful. | 17:18 |
| xnox | dobey: well it's in the debian svn / upload. I can link to it once launchpad imports the debian upload..... | 17:18 |
| dobey | hmm | 17:19 |
| dobey | xnox: ok, please ping me when it gets merged into saucy | 17:21 |
| mterry | zul, can you subscribe the server team to blinker bugs? (it needs to be in main for flask) | 17:21 |
| zul | blinker bugs? | 17:21 |
| zul | mterry: doh...done :) | 17:22 |
| xnox | dobey: ack. | 17:23 |
| mterry | zul, thanks. I already patched it to run tests. Seems fine besides | 17:23 |
| mterry | zul, bug 1227623 if you're curious | 17:23 |
| zul | mterry: coold thanks | 17:23 |
| ubottu | bug 1227623 in blinker (Ubuntu Saucy) "[MIR] blinker required as b-d and as recommends for flask" [High,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1227623 | 17:23 |
| barry | dholbach: i will look | 17:36 |
| dholbach | thanks | 17:36 |
| barry | @pilot in | 18:00 |
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| pitti | so what magic needs to happen to make the PS auto-uploader actually upload ubuntu-themes in the next 2 hours or so to meet the UIF? | 18:25 |
| xnox | ev: fginther: ^ | 18:28 |
| fginther | pitti, are the necessary changes in trunk? | 18:31 |
| xnox | fginther: yes. | 18:32 |
| fginther | robru, can help then ^^ | 18:32 |
| robru | pitti, hi. i will kick off a release build of misc stack for you (this includes ubuntu-themes) | 18:33 |
| fginther | robru, thanks | 18:34 |
| robru | fginther, pitti: ok, it is done. you should see ubuntu-theme package upload soon. | 18:40 |
| robru | pitti, although, I disagree with your changes to the version number... like all daily_release packages, it's built in split mode, which means orig.tar.gz is created by deleting debian/ dir. | 18:42 |
| robru | pitti, so with daily_release'd stuff, you only have control over the part of the version number to the left of the '+' sign... the rest is automatically added by jenkins in order to identify when it was released. | 18:46 |
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| pitti | robru: oh, I see; well, I can back that out | 18:55 |
| pitti | robru: but I was worried as there is no obvious way to build an orig for myself, nor any real "upstream" | 18:56 |
| pitti | robru: but can we at least drop the 13.04+13.10 stuff? | 18:56 |
| robru | pitti, I already fixed the changelog in trunk. | 18:56 |
| pitti | robru: ok, thanks | 18:56 |
| robru | pitti, the 13.10 bit has to stay, but if you want to change the '13.04' part to something else, go right ahead. | 18:56 |
| robru | pitti, and if you 'bzr bd' in the branch, it will make orig.tar.gz for you | 18:57 |
| pitti | robru: yes, basically just drop the 13.04+; that seems useless? | 18:57 |
| pitti | robru: but oh well, it's already uploaded now according to the changelog, so nevermind | 18:57 |
| robru | pitti, I agree, but there needs to be something there for jenkins to build off of. we should discuss with didrocks what makes a good version number. | 18:57 |
| pitti | robru: thanks for getting it into the archive! | 18:57 |
| pitti | robru: actually, no -- https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-themes/13.04+13.10.20130919.2-0ubuntu1 doesn't seem to contain my changes? | 18:58 |
| robru | pitti, hmmm, let me check | 18:58 |
| pitti | ah no, that can't be that upload | 18:58 |
| pitti | robru: that said the upload was from 4 hours ago | 18:58 |
| pitti | so we need another one with xnox's and my changes | 18:59 |
| robru | pitti, hmm, that's strange. it looks like it missed your commits. I'll try it again | 18:59 |
| pitti | robru: no, xnox' and my commits presumably haven't even been there 4 hours ago | 18:59 |
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| robru | pitti, i think that timestamp is wrong, because the version number matches what just got uploaded | 19:00 |
| robru | pitti, yeah, that's definitely the build I just kicked off, see here: http://10.97.0.1:8080/job/cu2d-misc-saucy-3.0publish/16/console most recent build in the system, and the version number matches. not sure why it says 4hrs ago, maybe one server has a bad clock somewhere/ | 19:02 |
| robru | also not sure why it didn't get your commit, but will try again | 19:02 |
| pitti | robru: ah, so it hasn't actually been uploaded to saucy yet? | 19:03 |
| pitti | robru: as https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-themes/13.04+13.10.20130919.2-0ubuntu1 definitively doesn't have the latest changes | 19:03 |
| robru | pitti, it made an upload but for some reason it didn't include your commit. | 19:03 |
| pitti | robru: or the tree from xnox | 19:03 |
| robru | pitti, this is an issue that has bit me a couple times recently, it's like the jenkins job is caching launchpad branches so it doesn't see new commits sometimes | 19:03 |
| robru | pitti, hmmm, jenkins claims to have released revision 315, which would include xnox's work. are you sure it's missing? | 19:05 |
| pitti | robru: the upload timestamp says "Thu, 19 Sep 2013 14:05:04 +0000" which roughly coincides with "4 hours ago", though | 19:05 |
| pitti | robru: perhaps that was an auotmatic one? | 19:05 |
| robru | pitti, no, automatic uploads are disabled, things are kind of a mess right now. | 19:06 |
| pitti | robru: ah yes, so 315 has xnox' merges, but mine was 316 | 19:06 |
| pitti | latest one is 318 | 19:06 |
| robru | yeah, ok I'll run it again and hope for the best | 19:06 |
| pitti | robru: thanks | 19:06 |
| robru | pitti, you're welcome | 19:08 |
| robru | pitti, hmmm, still doesn't seem to have found it. last time this happened to me it took ~12 hours before jenkins saw the latest commit | 19:10 |
| robru | pitti, you might want to file your UIFe now, if necessary. | 19:12 |
| infinity | smoser: Weren't you going to seed ubuntu-cloudimage-keyring somewhere to keep it in main? | 19:14 |
| infinity | smoser: (Or have something depend on it) | 19:14 |
| smoser | infinity, maas will depende on it. | 19:16 |
| smoser | can i recommends it? | 19:16 |
| infinity | smoser: Recommend would be fine. Also, cloud-utils wants to move to universe too, is that meant to be? | 19:16 |
| alberts | Hi! Can patch pilot look at this fix for raring - https://code.launchpad.net/~albertsmuktupavels/ubuntu-themes/restore-space-between-applications-and-places-in-gnome-panel-raring | 19:16 |
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| smoser | infinity, cloud-utils is in cloud-image seed. | 19:17 |
| infinity | smoser: Is not. | 19:17 |
| infinity | smoser: cloud-init and cloud-guest-utils are, but not cloud-utils. | 19:17 |
| smoser | cloud-guest-utils is binary from cloud-utils. | 19:18 |
| smoser | is that not enough? | 19:18 |
| smoser | cloud-utils is now metapackage. | 19:18 |
| infinity | smoser: Sure, it's a metapackage that depends on cloud-guest-utils and cloud-image-utils. Is all of that supposed to be in main, or just cloud-guest-utils? | 19:18 |
| infinity | smoser: If it should all be in main, you should seed the metapackage somewhere. | 19:19 |
| infinity | smoser: Especially if this is required for smooth upgrades from precise. | 19:19 |
| infinity | smoser: So, you seed cloud-guest-utils to cloud-image, I'd suggest that you might want cloud-utils in supported. | 19:20 |
| smoser | cloud-guest-utils and cloud-image-utils should be in main. | 19:20 |
| smoser | yeah. i'll add it in supported. | 19:21 |
| infinity | Thanks. | 19:21 |
| smoser | and maas will have the dependency on cloudimage-keyring sometime soon | 19:22 |
| smoser | roaksoax, ^ can you add that ? | 19:23 |
| smoser | for your next upload | 19:23 |
| smoser | Depends: ubuntu-cloudimage-keyring | 19:23 |
| roaksoax | smoser: for maas? | 19:32 |
| smoser | yes | 19:32 |
| roaksoax | smoser: what is that for? | 19:33 |
| roaksoax | smoser: i mean, what tool? | 19:33 |
| roaksoax | region/cluster? | 19:33 |
| smoser | whatever downloads ephemeral images. | 19:36 |
| alberts | barry: do you have time? | 19:56 |
| barry | alberts: hi, what's up? | 20:07 |
| alberts | barry: hi! I see you are patch pilot. can you look at this - https://code.launchpad.net/~albertsmuktupavels/ubuntu-themes/restore-space-between-applications-and-places-in-gnome-panel-raring/+merge/178242 | 20:08 |
| alberts | barry: and at this - https://code.launchpad.net/~albertsmuktupavels/indicator-applet/fix-for-1215337/+merge/185623 | 20:08 |
| pitti | robru: ouch; is it using the http:// addresses by any chance? they usually lag behind a few minutes | 20:11 |
| barry | alberts: i'll take a look | 20:14 |
| pitti | robru: I modified bug 1079639 for an UIFe | 20:15 |
| ubottu | bug 1079639 in ubuntu-themes (Ubuntu) "UIFE: Icons for error alerts are hokey" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1079639 | 20:15 |
| robru | pitti, some empirical study has shown that the lag between when a commit lands in trunk, and when jenkins is able to push a release, is more than 4hrs, but less than 7hrs (assuming it's consistent; i haven't tested enough to be able to see if it's random or not) | 20:40 |
| robru | pitti, it looks like your commit is 2hrs old, so I expect I'll be able to get a release out within 5hrs | 20:41 |
| infinity | smoser: Did you want me to just do that supported seed change for you? | 20:48 |
| infinity | smoser: (I'm trying to get some noise out of component-mismatches while I clean it up) | 20:48 |
| barry | alberts: i must confess that i am not really qualified to review these branches :/ | 20:48 |
| smoser | i did it. | 20:48 |
| smoser | didn't i? | 20:49 |
| smoser | gah. | 20:49 |
| smoser | now i did it. | 20:50 |
| alberts | barry: who can do it? | 20:50 |
| barry | alberts: someone from the desktop team would probably be better | 20:50 |
| alberts | barry: ok. thanks! | 20:51 |
| barry | alberts: not sure who's still online though ;) mterry perhaps? | 20:51 |
| mterry | barry, hi | 20:51 |
| mterry | barry, I'm on unity8 team these days :) | 20:51 |
| mterry | of course I can still help | 20:52 |
| barry | mterry: ah. i just looked at ~ubuntu-desktop ;) | 20:52 |
| mterry | barry, what am I helping with? | 20:52 |
| barry | mterry: alberts has some branches ^^ that need review. i'll be happy to sponsor them if you can review and approve them | 20:52 |
| barry | mterry: https://code.launchpad.net/~albertsmuktupavels/ubuntu-themes/restore-space-between-applications-and-places-in-gnome-panel-raring/+merge/178242 | 20:52 |
| barry | mterry: https://code.launchpad.net/~albertsmuktupavels/indicator-applet/fix-for-1215337/+merge/185623 | 20:53 |
| infinity | smoser: Thanks. | 20:56 |
| mterry | barry, alberts: looking, commented on first one | 21:03 |
| Noskcaj | how do i run debuild through pbuilder-dist? | 21:30 |
| barry | @pilotout | 21:31 |
| udevbot | Error: "pilotout" is not a valid command. | 21:31 |
| barry | @pilot out | 21:31 |
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| alberts | mterry: replied on first one | 21:46 |
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| mterry | barry, first MR you linked to is approved | 22:07 |
| mterry | barry, second just needs some testing, but code seems fine | 22:07 |
| pitti | robru: wow, that seems like a weird delay, given our 4 hour landing cycle :) | 22:11 |
| pitti | robru: thanks | 22:11 |
| jtaylor | can one opt out of this phased updates thing? i.e. get everything immediately? | 22:15 |
| robru | pitti, yes, this delay only started in the last couple weeks. also, 4-hour landing cycle has been disabled for several weeks | 22:16 |
| robru | because everything is broken and horrible | 22:16 |
| cjwatson | jtaylor: http://www.murraytwins.com/blog/?p=127 | 22:17 |
| jtaylor | thx | 22:17 |
| cjwatson | jtaylor: referenced from https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2013-August/037563.html | 22:17 |
| jtaylor | do you know since when support for it is in update-manager? | 22:18 |
| cjwatson | I added it in January | 22:20 |
| cjwatson | I think it got SRUed back, not sure | 22:20 |
| cjwatson | of course you can use apt-get and that always ignores phasing | 22:20 |
| jtaylor | hm k, I'm asking because my update manager seems to behave differently since a few weeks | 22:20 |
| jtaylor | on 13.04, it pops up multiple times each time giving me a small chunk of updates | 22:21 |
| cjwatson | hopefully bdmurray can investigate, he's the king of phased updates :) | 22:21 |
| jtaylor | but I'm not sure if I may be imaging it, as I usually update via apt-get, so I'll first check if opting out changes anything | 22:21 |
| infinity | tjaalton: You need an MIR for glamor-egl, it looks like. | 22:24 |
| tjaalton | infinity: yes | 22:25 |
| infinity | tjaalton: Please file one? :) | 22:26 |
| tjaalton | on it :) | 22:26 |
| infinity | tjaalton: Is this all new code, or something split from mesa or some such? | 22:26 |
| tjaalton | infinity: it's a new library | 22:26 |
| bdmurray | jtaylor: could you elaborate on pops up multiple times each time? | 22:27 |
| jtaylor | it pops up offers me a couple updates, I apply, close update manager | 22:27 |
| jtaylor | it pops up right again with more | 22:27 |
| bdmurray | Your /var/log/apt/history.log file might be helpful. | 22:28 |
| jtaylor | bdmurray: I had this today: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6130220/ | 22:31 |
| jtaylor | though it seems to be one regular and one security updates | 22:31 |
| jtaylor | is it intentional they are split in two? | 22:31 |
| bdmurray | apt and curl are undergoing phasing at the moment | 22:32 |
| bdmurray | so its possible the first time you weren't selected to install them and later you were | 22:33 |
| jtaylor | I had this two split several times in the last few weeks | 22:34 |
| bdmurray | oh, and I guess that would make more sense if they were further apart | 22:34 |
| jtaylor | really close to each other | 22:34 |
| robru | pitti, so a build from r318 has been dispatched, but it seems to be going very slowly. I see it in the PPA but it doesn't look like it's made it into distro yet. | 22:35 |
| bdmurray | okay, I'll have a look thanks | 22:35 |
| robru | pitti, https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-unity/+archive/daily-build/+packages?field.name_filter=ubuntu-themes&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter= keep and eye on that i guess | 22:35 |
| jtaylor | this time there were 10 minutes because it was waiting on an ack of listchanges | 22:35 |
| jtaylor | yesterday I had itpop up ~ minute after it was done with the first set | 22:35 |
| jtaylor | (on a different machine) | 22:35 |
| jtaylor | I'll check the logs tomorrow, but I think it might have also been security and regular updates | 22:36 |
| infinity | robru: "Very slowly?" It took 13 minutes to build, so there's only another 11 minutes of delay there so far. | 22:36 |
| pitti | robru: très bien, merci | 22:37 |
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| robru | infinity, well, usually the misc stack runs quite quickly i thought, just a few minutes? seems like it's been running for 30 minutes now, i'm not sure that that's normal | 22:37 |
| pitti | robru: I think it'll get held in -proposed due to the freeze that cjwatson announced, but I sent that UIFe about it | 22:37 |
| robru | yeah | 22:37 |
| infinity | robru: PPA publication times vary a bit. But still, I wouldn't call this "very slow" was all I was driving at. It was only uploaded 24m ago. | 22:38 |
| robru | infinity, I was referring to this: http://10.97.0.1:8080/view/cu2d/view/Saucy/view/All/job/cu2d-misc-saucy/ which started 35 minutes ago, seems uncharacteristically slow to me | 22:38 |
| tjaalton | infinity: btw, if you still want to meet and talk about the backport stack implementation & future, me and mlankhorst are both at lpc | 22:44 |
| infinity | Hrm. Shame Andy isn't. | 22:44 |
| infinity | But still might be nice to have a chat. | 22:45 |
| infinity | I'm pretty convinced that what we're doing isn't the best we can do, by a long stretch, but sorting out what would be better could take some beer and a large whiteboard. | 22:45 |
| tjaalton | the lobby bar has napkins ;) | 22:46 |
| infinity | Heh. | 22:46 |
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| robru | pitti, ok. it looks like it is done and I'm just publishing it now. | 22:58 |
| robru | should be in -proposed shortly (before it was just in that PPA) | 22:58 |
| tjaalton | infinity: mir filed as bug 1227919 | 22:59 |
| ubottu | bug 1227919 in glamor-egl (Ubuntu) "[MIR] glamor-egl" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1227919 | 22:59 |
| infinity | tjaalton: Thanks. | 23:00 |
| infinity | mterry: If you've got a tiny bit of time, could you have a look at the above? | 23:00 |
| mterry | infinity, is it time sensitive? I can do now, but would slightly prefer to do tomorrow | 23:01 |
| infinity | mterry: Seems to be a new rdep of xorg-ati, but I'm sure it can wait a day, just not a month. ;) | 23:01 |
| mterry | infinity, done :) | 23:01 |
| infinity | mterry: Might need a light security audit too. | 23:01 |
| infinity | mdeslaur: ^ | 23:01 |
| mterry | infinity, ick, yeah, will assign to security now then, that can take a bit sometimes | 23:02 |
| mdeslaur | infinity: thanks | 23:02 |
| mdeslaur | sarnold: ^ one more for your list | 23:02 |
| * mterry hugs sarnold for his audits | 23:03 | |
| * sarnold <3 :D | 23:03 | |
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| infinity | sarnold: Doesn't look like it'll be a long audit, but I figure a library that will be linked into an X driver and running ring 0 might need a look-see. | 23:28 |
| sarnold | infinity: oh, nice, drivers can go one of two directions.. :) | 23:28 |
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