[01:55] <ibeardslee> interesting .. it seems that the 3 main ubuntu mirrors in NZ (plus the one at work) are giving me very similar results in pings and mtr
[01:56] <ibeardslee> certainly not taking the overseas trip to get back to nz.archive.ubuntu.com
[01:56] <ibeardslee> will do a check again tonight though
[02:01] <G> ibeardslee: iirc nz.archive.ubuntu.com (citylink as I recall) offload requests from ISPs that don't peer locally to SFO, what is the 'this-node-???' file in the directory listing?
[02:03] <G> (if I remember rightly the rationale was it's cheaper that way to provide a free service, and chances are ISPs that didn't peer well would still be travelling overseas to get back, so what is the point
[02:04] <ibeardslee> well looking at my previous tests in Nov 2010, I was getting 150ms pings to nz.auc with 14 hops
[02:04] <ibeardslee> now it's 9 hops with a 23ms ping
[02:05] <ibeardslee> .. actually take two hops of each those, that includes my internal network ;)
[02:05] <G> ibeardslee: have you tried ucmirror?
[02:05] <G> http://ucmirror.canterbury.ac.nz
[02:05] <ibeardslee> yes
[02:06] <G> it's actually a bit crazy, but even in Auckland I've found UC to be the most reliable mirror
[02:06] <ibeardslee> snap are introducing lost packet
[02:06] <G> (in terms of speed, stability and up to date-ness)
[02:07] <ibeardslee> but pings times are better
[02:13] <olly> it's handy they offload requests if you go overseas and don't update the mirror you use!
[02:13] <G> oh yeah, I'd certainly agree with that
[02:13] <olly> ping isn't always totally indicative of what performance you'll actually get
[02:14] <olly> especially as ping packets may be dropped in favour of other packets by some routers
[02:14] <ibeardslee> not totally, but a good indication that a connection is likely to be slow, have latency
[02:15] <ibeardslee> hmmm
[02:15] <olly> for a mirror, throughput tends to matter more than latency
[02:15] <olly> it's not a great sign if there's packet loss with ping though
[17:58] <olly> morning
[18:49]  * olly frees over 1GB by purging old kernels
[19:57] <ibeardslee> morning
[20:04] <snail> nice. they're testing the fire alarms today. It's now been running for 40 minutes and my earplugs are starting to itch
[20:41] <ajmitch> morning
[21:41] <chilts> morning
[21:44] <thumper> morning
[21:48] <snail> is there anyone in new zealand who does regular or semi regular linux training?
[22:15] <hads> morning
[22:21] <snail> the definition of stability: the package's news page still has their y2k compliance statement
[23:32] <G> snail: only ones I really know of are Auldhouse and iirc they mainly focus on the Red Hat Curriculum
[23:34] <G> (so I'd imagine not much help/doesn't really fit in)