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plarssergiusens: I don't think it landed in time https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/122501700:00
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1225017 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "Messaging indicator missing from indicator bar" [Undecided,Fix committed]00:00
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mhall119anders3408: I know nothing about evdev00:34
anders3408mhall119:  i was missing alot of permission in find5.rules , perhaps thats it. did a new build just testing in a moment then im going to upload it if it is working ok.00:37
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AskUbuntuUbuntu Mobile for new Droid MAXX | http://askubuntu.com/q/34731501:55
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loologra: do we have time to land some changes this morning?06:58
loolspecifically, I wanted to try landing new url-dispatcher, and qtpim was tested yesterday06:58
dholbachgood morning06:59
loologra: moving this to -ci07:00
drachensunwell I have a little bit of progress07:27
drachensunI see A N D R O I D on screen07:27
drachensunadb works but only seems to see the android container07:28
drachensunand my serial console is up07:28
drachensunbut I think media server crashing all the time is making it unresponsive07:28
drachensunanyone know why I would be seeing a n d r o i d?07:34
drachensunlooks like surface flinger is crashing as well, I thought ubuntu touch used mir?07:35
drachensunso I see, Android was fighting to control the console as well07:49
drachensunnow I have a good console, again just in the Android container07:49
janimosergiusens, around?07:54
gemapopey: ping07:54
popeygema: yo!07:54
gemapopey: have you managed to get the upgrade from the system settings working?07:54
popeyyes, multiple times07:55
gemapopey: ok, me too07:55
popeyhave you not?07:55
popeyoh07:55
gemapopey: I have an email forwarded from you and jamie that says something about signature error07:55
gemabut I haven't been able to reproduce that07:55
popeyI'd be willing to bet that's dodgy wifi issue07:56
popeyor dodgy 3g07:56
gemaok07:56
gemapopey: do upgrades download automatically for you?07:56
gemaor is that not implemented yet?07:56
popeyi have it set to, and yes, it works07:56
gemaok, I am going to try that now07:56
gemapopey: thanks07:56
popeynp07:56
gematoday's image comes up with the wrong date to me :/08:01
popeygema: what command are you using?08:01
gemapopey: UI08:02
popeyque?08:02
gemasystem settings, download and then install08:02
popeyright, what's wrong?08:02
popeyhttp://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-19-090254.png is what I see08:03
gemapopey: I am trying to reproduce, I will take a picture08:03
gemapopey: nah, it worked this time08:06
gemafirst time I upgraded it had 1970 as a date08:06
drachensunok I'm getting an apparmor 2.4 error08:06
drachensunso there is a patch I should put on the kernel?  Where can I find that?08:07
popeygema: that happens because the time doesn't get saved when you wipe.08:07
popeythat happens a lot08:07
jjohansendrachensun: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/AppArmorForPhabletKernels08:07
drachensunthanks08:09
drachensunis the apparmor issue probably what is keeping the display from loading?08:10
gemapopey: is your sim working on the latest image?08:10
popeyyup08:11
gemaok08:11
popeygema: you may need to restart network managaer08:11
gemapopey: no, I am testing, I need to raise a bug because it takes forever to show the signal08:11
gema:)08:11
jjohansendrachensun: maybe. You can set the kernel parameter apparmor=0 and boot with that to check08:11
jjohansenthat works on apparmor 2.4 and 3.008:12
gemapopey: I don't think it was nm, my wifi has been up from the beginning08:12
popeygema: there's a known bug in nm which I was testing a fix for last night08:13
gemapopey: regarding telephony?08:13
popeygema: it doesn't move from wifi to 3g seamlessly, but there's a fix done which should land soon08:13
popeyregarding 3g/wifi08:13
gemapopey: ok08:13
gemapopey: will wait for that to land then08:13
drachensunjjohansen: Before I added "apparmor=1 security=apparmor" to my kernel I was getting "AppArmor not available as kernel LSM" and that seemed to be the only error.  Is that what you would expect from apparmor=0?08:13
drachensunwell the only apparmor reported error08:14
drachensunand the display was A N D R O I D then too08:14
jjohansendrachensun: ah yeah08:14
drachensunjjohansen: So apparmor isn't required? the kernel patch looks like a lot of work, I would prefer to come back to if its not required to get the regular desktop up08:15
jjohansendrachensun: its not required to get ubuntu touch up, but is required for confinement and some apps to work08:16
jjohansendrachensun: ah that goes for the desktop too08:17
jjohansenif I was trying to bring something up, I would skip it until I had the system up and running08:18
drachensunok cool08:18
drachensunyeah, I've got it booting08:18
drachensunand now the Android container is up08:18
drachensunand I can adb in08:18
jibelwith 20130918, the clock vanished from the notification area, is it on purpose or already reported as a bug?08:18
drachensunor use a serial console08:18
drachensunbut they all lead to the Android container08:18
drachensunand the display is stuck on  A N D R O I D08:18
drachensunI see surfaceflinger try to run08:19
drachensunbut it seems to crash on and off08:19
drachensunSo if I understand right, I can try mir instead somehow right?08:19
drachensunlooks like I would need to break out of the android container to install it08:21
popeyjibel: comes back after a reboot08:23
drachensunexit08:26
jibelpopey, okay, filing a bug08:26
jibelhm and a system-image-dbus crash :/08:27
drachensunok I waw missing the powervr kernel module, it hides away from the rest and I forgot to copy it08:30
drachensunso now08:30
drachensunI am getting the Android init logo08:31
drachensunand it stops after that08:31
drachensunbut its the logo it used to show in Android before I started trying to add all this08:31
mhr3_ogra, did you see my msg about the ubuntu-settings branch?08:34
ograyep, i put it on the spreadsheet for CI discussion08:34
ograshould land later today (i hope)08:34
mhr3_ogra, thanks08:35
Laneymardy: have any ideas about fixing https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1227111 ?08:36
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1227111 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "Two system settings instances can be open at the same time" [Undecided,Confirmed]08:36
LaneyIt seems easy enough to do single instance but you also want to go to the new requested panel in the existing instance08:37
oSoMoNom26er: hey, are you around?08:38
mardyLaney: nope, I think you have to talk to the shell people about this08:38
om26eroSoMoN, yeah, I came in early.08:38
om26er:)08:38
mardyLaney: I guess upstart will come into the picture08:38
Laneyreally?08:38
om26eroSoMoN, I saw the comment on the MR, I'll now look at the failing test now08:38
LaneyI thought you'd do it in u-s-s08:38
popeyogra: how do I set the time on the read-only images?08:39
om26eroSoMoN, or is that not needed anymore ? :)08:39
mardyLaney: they have plans to maintain a binding between processes and windows, and I guess that single-instance is also considered08:39
Laneyhrm08:39
mardyLaney: well, for Online Accounts, I'm working on a D-Bus service to start it, which will take care of single/multiple instances as appropriate; but that's a rather complex case08:40
mardyLaney: I think that being single instance is a common requirement for many apps, so it's likely that the shell will provide some easy way to do it08:40
mardySaviq: any plans about this? ^08:41
ograpopey, heh, no idea ... i guess you need to wait until the settings land08:41
popey08:41
oSoMoNom26er: if you mean the calendar app, no need to investigate, I’ve found the issue and submitted a MR, if you could review it that would be great: https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/ubuntu-calendar-app/restrict-label-search-root/+merge/18648308:48
oSoMoNom26er: also, I wanted to ask about an issue in the lab, I’m seeing the following error on all CI and autolanding jobs (generic-mediumtests-runner-maguro) today: "error: device not found"08:49
om26eroSoMoN, wow that looks serious08:49
om26erI'll have a look08:50
om26eroSoMoN, approve it, I assume you have been stuck with that failure of a bit long08:52
oSoMoNom26er: thanks08:59
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mardyLaney: hi! Could you review this soonish? https://code.launchpad.net/~mardy/ubuntu-system-settings/wifi-panel/+merge/18649209:47
mardyLaney: thostr_ tells me it should land today09:47
Laneymardy: ok, right after I get disk usage working09:48
Laneyplease invalidate the old mp09:48
mardyLaney: OK09:48
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ograsil2100, so was there anything more than qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-click0.1 to seed for you ?10:02
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kalikianaogra: does this sound familiar? "ERROR:phablet-flash:local variable 'recovery_path' referenced before assignment" and then stays in the recovery screen - using phablet-flash ubuntu-system --channel=devel-proposed on maguro10:10
UbuntuFanhow can I on Nexus 7 2013 (razor) ubuntu install. I have done many things but it is not10:12
popeyUbuntuFan: we dont officially support the new nexus 7 yet10:12
popeysomeone needs to port it over10:12
promylophIs Ubuntu Touch the successor of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7 ?10:12
popeyKinda. Yes.10:12
popeyI don't think we maintain the desktop image for Nexus 7 anymore10:13
promylophYeh, the download link does not work any more.10:13
promylophSo I suspected it was dead.10:13
popeyogra: shall we "do a jorge" and delete those pages?10:15
popeyor just put a big boilerplate at the top10:16
asacpopey: ogra: think we would want to release the 56 :)?10:18
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asacthats a big step10:18
asaccan you sign off and get it out?10:19
asacogra: thostr_ cannot boot his device anymore10:19
asacwith ubuntu-system10:19
asacthostr_: did the install go fine?10:20
thostr_asac: yes10:20
asacthostr_: what happens if you go in with adb?10:20
thostr_only get busybox10:20
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asaci flashed 55 a few times i think10:21
asacogra: popey: ^^ not sure what might have happened for him10:21
asacthostr_: did you have latest phablet-flash?10:21
asacphablet-tools up to date?10:22
asacetc?10:22
asacsergiusens: ^^10:22
* asac flashes ubuntu-system too 10:22
thostr_asac: recovering device now10:22
popeyasac: sure, I'll flash now10:24
asacthostr_: so you know how to recover from this?10:24
asacgood10:24
asac:)10:24
thostr_asac: doing it right now... just takes time10:24
asacyeah i know10:24
kalikianaasac: I also got an unbootable device with the latest phablet-flash. but since the flashing fails inside the boot loader I'm not sure if it fully upgraded10:25
kalikianakinda hard to check when it's stuck at the Google logo10:26
asackalikiana: really?10:26
asackalikiana: what version of phablet-tools do you have?10:26
kalikiana1.0+13.10.20130916.2-0ubuntu1 on saucy10:26
asachmm... flashing with 1.0+13.10.20130917.1-0ubuntu110:27
asacright now10:27
popeyditto10:27
asacnot sure what i used last as i upgraded today10:27
* popey makes tea10:27
ograkalikiana, if you get that error you dont have the latest phablet-tools10:29
asacwait a sec10:29
asacso whats going on ?10:29
asac:-P10:29
thostr_asac: I got the same result as kalikiana10:29
asacwhat changed that the phablet-flash from yesterday creates a not bootable install?10:29
asacogra: ?10:29
Laneymardy: I guess you need a depends on qmenumodel-qml?10:30
asacthostr_: check phablet-tools version too plz10:30
LaneyI got unknown type10:30
Laneymardy: Also a blank page on my desktop where I have no wireless adaptor10:30
thostr_asac: upgrading now everything10:31
asacthostr_: which version did you have?10:31
asacplease tell me :)10:31
asaci need to investigate whats going on10:31
asac-> I feel strongly that this this must never ever happen, so we need to fix the root10:32
thostr_asac: old one was from 4th of september10:32
asacthostr_: do you have the exact version?10:32
thostr_but install just went fine...10:32
asaci want to have people post-mortem that10:32
thostr_ 1.0+13.10.20130904.1-0ubuntu110:32
Laneymardy: OK blank panel on my laptop too10:32
ograasac, nothing changed10:32
Laneydoes some service not start automatically?10:32
kalikianahmm seems I can update from 1.0+13.10.20130904.1-0ubuntu1 to 1.0+13.10.20130917.1-0ubuntu1 now but only after manually 'apt-get update' just now10:32
kalikianaso it must be quite new10:32
asacogra: since the 4th it makes sense ... we had channel rework etc.10:32
asacbut also not acceptable10:33
kalikiana(I have auto updates usually)10:33
ogra??10:33
asacits not acceptable that we break things in this way10:33
asacever10:33
ograasac, what do you mean ?10:33
asacyou must never be able to brick your phone by using wrong version of phablet-tools10:33
ogranothing broke10:33
Laneyoh OK the service didn't start10:33
kalikianaI'm trying to flash with the new version now to see if it works then10:33
Laneywhat's wrong with dbus activation? :(10:33
asacogra: it was broken for two folks by using wrong version10:34
ograasac, popey as well as me are flashing multiple times every day10:34
asacogra: yes, with always the latest10:34
ograasac, well, then thats a bug, definitelly nothing that was introduced newly10:34
asacpeople that tidndt have the latest brocked their phone10:34
asacthats the problem10:34
asacsure10:34
asaci will file a bug10:34
asacand have someone check10:34
ograyeah, i told you about that, the system image server was changed before phablet-tools was fixed10:34
ograasac, we talked about it on tuesday10:35
ograand yes we agreed that shouldnt happen again and i talked to stgraber about it10:35
asacthats fine10:35
asaci want to hear how we guarantee that this wont happen10:35
asacso filing a bug10:35
asacneeds to be fixed at the root10:35
ograby telling people (as we do anyway) to make sure to update to the latest phablet-tools ... how else wouold you prevent them ?10:36
asackalikiana: which version of phablet-tools did you use when bricking your phone?10:36
popeyoooh, new icons10:36
asackalikiana: which version with which image?10:36
asacogra: wrong answer :)10:36
asachence10:36
asaci need to have a talk10:36
ograthere will always be changes to the protocol at some point, no way to cover that without phablet-tools update10:36
asacyou can easily have proper compatibility/spec tracking10:36
asacetc.10:36
mardyLaney: yep, it needs a new indicator-network: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && reboot10:37
ogranot if there is nothing to be compatible to10:37
asacthere was10:37
asacwe had a first revision of the channels10:37
asacthat worked10:37
iKillCypherogra, why are there so many critical bugs10:37
asacthen we changed it and broke it because we dont have proper protocol tracking10:37
ograasac, the old way of generating system images had to be dropped for the new way you requested10:37
ogracant do both at the same time10:37
asacstill... :)10:37
asactrust me10:37
Laneymardy: I just started it manually10:38
ograso if there is nothing to be comaptible with  how would you prevent breakage ?10:38
Laneywhy isn't it dbus activated though?10:38
ograif the ABI changes both sides need to change10:38
mardyLaney: it worked all fine here, after a reboot10:38
Saviqmardy, everything will be started via upstart, hence just one instance of everything10:38
ograiKillCypher, because you didnt send patches to fix them ?10:38
ogra:)10:38
iKillCypher:(10:38
Laneysure, because then the service is started by upstart10:39
iKillCypherI still trying to figure out certain stuff about how it works10:39
Laneyit's just a bit less than ideal to have to do that or start it yourself10:39
kalikianaasac: 1.0+13.10.20130904.1-0ubuntu1 with ubuntu-system10:39
Laneywhen ways to start dbus services already exist10:39
Saviqmardy, but we indeed need a common, easy way to send arguments to apps that are already running10:39
asackalikiana: ok so the same as thostr... thanks10:39
asackalikiana: thostr_: sorry  for the inconvenience10:39
ograasac, there should have been some announcement for the phablet-tools update ... i agree thats an issue ... but we cant guarantee no ABI breakage if the server gets re-written from scratch and produces something completely different10:39
asacno thats not good enough either10:40
asacdont worry, i will get it fixed for real10:40
asacjust need to talk to folks and then we make policy that will prevent it10:40
ograhow will you fix it ?10:40
Laneymardy: commented on the mp, the missing dependency is probably the only thing that has to be fixed10:41
thostr_asac: ogra: just introduce proper versioning10:41
Laneymardy: can you merge trunk and update po too while you're there?10:41
asacogra: i cant reveal all trade secrets :)10:41
popeyasac: ogra 56 seems good on mako10:41
iKillCypherhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/touch-preview-images/+bug/122661410:41
asacjust wait10:41
iKillCypherwtf10:41
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1226614 in touch-preview-images "RIL/Radio Broken In Ported Xperia Z(Yuga)" [Undecided,New]10:41
* ogra doesnt get it, you asked stgraber for a re-write that supports your new use case that required to throw away the old way of generating images10:41
asacthostr_: you get it :)10:41
kalikiana"always use the latest" is a meaningless advise to be frank - even if I have regular updates I cannot know if I just crossed the line with the next image, there's a huge race condition in telling me to always update "when I can"10:42
ograthostr_, thats exactly what the server change did10:42
asacand a promise for allways backward compatible10:42
ograasac, then dont ask for complete rewrites of the core :P10:42
sil2100ogra: well, I'm thinking also about adding the click-update-manager to the seed as well10:42
ograsil2100, great, i'm fine with that10:43
sil2100ogra: I'll publish those two projects once they're built10:43
sil2100ogra: thanks!10:43
ograah, not in archive yet ?10:43
davmor2Morning all10:45
asacogra: is 56 good for you too?10:45
asachi davmor210:45
popeyhey davmor210:45
* davmor2 is loving the mtp10:46
mardyLaney: ok10:46
popeydavmor2: yeah, handy isnt it!?10:47
Laneymardy: it's blank on my nexus 710:47
* ogra waits for the last sms he sent to mark it good10:47
ograasac, 56 is good on maguro10:48
mardyLaney: "make pot", right?10:48
ograshould it throw it out to the masses ?10:48
Laneycd po; qmake .; make pot10:48
asacpopey: ogra: lets go then :)10:48
asacpush the button10:48
ograsil2100, please let me know when they are done, i cant update the seeds without the packages being fully published10:49
mardyLaney: OK. About the blankness, what does "apt-cache policy indicator-network" say?10:49
* ogra goes and pushes buttons10:49
Laneymardy: 091310:49
asacpopey: if you send the mail you might want to capture the historic moment with a screenshot attached10:49
asacpopey: of the dashboard showing too green entries on top :)10:49
asachttp://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/touch_ro/10:49
sil2100ogra: ;) Ok, they're still building, so it should be ready in a few monents10:50
ograsil2100, yeah, no hurry, i just dont want to have to do it twice :)10:51
mardyLaney: old. Did you run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade?10:51
popeyasac: kk10:51
Laneymardy: doing so now10:51
Laneymardy: please version the dependency if you need a particular version10:52
mardyLaney: right10:52
asacogra: so i assume we wait with the seed changes until all the bits that we want to have for tday are ready>10:52
asacor do we want to go and pop off those that are isolcated (e.g. js)10:52
ograasac, right, we have to10:52
asacwell,you could already upload the jscript thingy if thats good10:52
asacthen we have that in the bank at least10:53
ograright, and Mirv's seed change as well10:53
asacwho knows what happens to the rest :)10:53
asacogra: if thats ready, then too. yes10:53
iKillCypherogra, can you point me to  ubuntu-phablet NetworkManager[1174]: <warn> could not mark modem as powered: org.ofono.Error.Failed Operation failed10:53
asacogra: Mirv's thing needs a test confirm10:53
ograMirv, your package is already fully published in the archive ?10:53
ograasac, for the seeding ?10:53
asacogra: well, that installing it will do the right thing i guess10:54
ograiKillCypher, thats normal10:54
asacMirv: are we sure we have the latest in archive? and not an old version?10:54
iKillCyphermeaning10:54
asacMirv: i remember that they did direct uploads before10:54
ograthat doesnt matter for seeding10:54
ograversion isnt taken into account10:54
* davmor2 flashes phone with 56 to see if 3g magically works for him10:54
asacwell, if the current version breaks the image :010:54
asacthen it matters10:54
Laneymardy: works with the new one10:54
Laneypush those changes then I will approve10:54
asacrather seed once we know what is in is wanted10:54
ograasac, not for updating the seeds :) ... but yeah, indeed10:54
iKillCypherhumm ogra care to explain10:55
iKillCypherwhat is normal10:55
ograiKillCypher, that line is normal ... ignore it10:55
asacwe can look at the trunk10:55
asacif we find it :)10:55
ograits just a warning, not an error10:55
asachgmm10:55
asacMirv: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntuone-hackers/clickmanager-plugin/trunk looks odd10:55
asacdoesnt have the version release commits10:55
asacbut not sure10:55
mardyLaney: pushed10:56
iKillCypherso what is causing the phone not register celluar radio then?10:56
asac-> ci channel10:56
ograasac, are you on the right track ? click was sil210010:56
asacoh :)10:56
asacyeah10:56
ograline 29 in landring plan10:56
ograis what we talk about10:57
asacwell, i use ffox10:57
asacbecause chrome is busted10:57
asacand there i work with a visual offset :)10:57
ograso i guess the INFLIGHT thing there is the seed change10:57
iKillCypherso what is causing the phone not register celluar radio then? < ogra any clue on how I can debug this issue ?10:57
asacoki think the right versionm is in the archive10:57
asacat tleast the one documented in the comments10:57
asachmm. but the merge command came after10:58
StskeepsiKillCypher: are you on a qualcomm device and is it cyanogenmod based android userland..?10:58
ograok, let me try to update the seeds then ... takes a while10:58
asacogra: we need to confirm if the final merge he wanted is in10:58
ograasac, right ...10:58
asacogra: sure, try ... if it doesnt break the image10:58
asacits ok10:58
asaceven if the other stuff is still flying10:58
iKillCypherStskeeps, yes im on a qualcom device and it is cm based10:58
ograupdating the sseed != uploading meta :)10:58
iKillCypherxperia z which I ported android for it10:58
ograi'll hold back the latter until we are safe10:58
StskeepsiKillCypher: hmm, how about the rild? comes from qualcomm codeaurora or from cm?10:59
iKillCypherit is open source10:59
iKillCypherStskeeps, https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_sony_qcom-common/tree/cm-10.2/libril11:00
iKillCypherStskeeps, https://bugs.launchpad.net/touch-preview-images/+bug/122661411:00
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1226614 in touch-preview-images "RIL/Radio Broken In Ported Xperia Z(Yuga)" [Undecided,New]11:00
asacjibel: you need to kick http://people.canonical.com/~j-lallement/touch/changes/current/20130918.1.html manually?11:00
asacif so, please do :)11:00
asacoh no11:00
asacignore last line11:00
popeymail sent11:02
ogra\o/11:02
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Laneymardy: is someone working on making it show / prompt for security?11:05
mardyLaney: the wifi panel? No idea11:06
Laneyhm11:06
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davmor2popey: still no 3g on maguro :(11:16
ogradavmor2, complain to your provider ... it works for me11:17
davmor2ogra: ofono's bit is working, it's the nm talking to ofono that isn't11:18
Mirvasac: it'll have version release commits when the first release from cu2d gets published11:19
ogradavmor2, hmm, i only get edge here ... but i have mobile data11:20
asacMirv: ic... thanks11:20
asaci thought that might be the case, but better safe than sorry11:20
Mirvasac: and yes also in this channel, I checked that everything up to the latest commit at https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntuone-control-tower/ubuntuone-credentials/trunk is in the uploaded package of u1-credentials, they just have a "stable" branch separately (which includes a merge of all of trunk) and then even more separately there is a branch which contains the debian/ packaging11:23
Mirvasac: so it's sort of manual and they didn't want the daily release preparation commit from robru before 13.10 releases11:23
popeydavmor2: what provider?11:23
Mirvprobably because they know one way of doing the releases and don't want to change it right now11:23
davmor2ogra: this is after a fresh flash with --no-backup11:23
popeydavmor2: did you restart network manager?11:23
davmor2popey: nope11:24
popeyyou may want to11:24
popeythat fix isnt in yet11:24
davmor2popey: that's what I asked you and you said yup on G+ :P11:24
popeyyes. because I was testing new packages from cyphermox11:26
davmor2ah nice11:26
popeyworks nicely11:26
asacMirv: ok good. ic11:26
* ogra wonders when these will land11:26
davmor2popey: now it's all making sense :)11:27
rickspencer3nice, a car2go app in More Suggestions!11:30
jibelasac, it is supposed to be automated now, but apparently failed. I'll fix that. meanwhile I ran it manually and latest changes are online11:30
iKillCypherogra, you still have gotten to me back11:31
iKillCypherhaven*11:31
asacnice11:31
asacpopey: jibels changes should be on. thx11:31
ograiKillCypher, ?11:31
iKillCypherwho is incharge of radio in ubuntu-touch?11:32
ograyou assigned your bou to him yesterday11:32
ogra*bug11:32
ograso he should be aware, but i doubt he will have much time for it before releasedate ...11:33
iKillCypheroh cool11:34
iKillCypherdoes he comes on IRC?11:34
ograit surely helps if you collect more detailed debug info though (like answering the question from Stskeeps above and put that info in the bug etc)11:34
rickspencer3popey, ogra wow, long change log for 56 ... nice11:34
iKillCypheryeah Im chatting with him see if I can get more info11:35
ograand running ofono in debug mode (google should have info how to do that) etc etc11:35
davmor2rickspencer3: The list of apps is most impressive,  beru the ebook reader is pretty good too :)11:35
ograrickspencer3, well, see the dashboard ... !11:35
ograLaney, could we get approval for bug 1224665 soon ? that will unblock the rest of the multimedia changes11:37
ubot5bug 1224665 in gst-plugins-bad1.0 (Ubuntu) "[FFe] Android media support over hybris for gst-plugins-bad1.0" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122466511:37
rickspencer3woah, music on the home scope11:37
ograrickspencer3, huh ?11:38
rickspencer3ogra, what's with the missing 2.5%?11:38
rickspencer3just kidding11:38
ograrickspencer3, i'm just testing that change here, you shouldnt see that yet11:38
rickspencer3ogra, dashboard is awesome11:38
rickspencer3ogra, I just installed 56, and I am definately looking at Music on the Home Scope11:38
ograthats weird11:38
rickspencer3great work on getting to really GREEN11:38
rickspencer3ogra, try doing a search on the home scope and see if music shows up?11:38
ograhttp://bazaar.launchpad.net/~mhr3/+junk/more-scope-overrides/revision/3111:39
rickspencer3assuming you have som emusic?11:39
ograthats the change that is supposed to add it11:39
asacrickspencer3: its not a german green yet :) ..~. we took a screen shot and land CSS fix that only goes green for 100% :)11:39
ograand that change wasnt uploaded yet11:39
* rickspencer3 stifles comments about "German Green"11:39
asachehe11:39
ograi wonder if there is some other default that kicks in11:39
asacjust fun11:39
rickspencer3popey, mhall the radio click app didn't install for me11:41
rickspencer3:,(11:41
Laneyogra: soon, I didn't look at the new packaging changes yet11:41
ografor me it installs but doesnt run11:41
ograLaney, thanks11:41
Laneyogra: can you get a new debdiff up? that'd make it easier11:41
davmor2rickspencer3: didn't install or didn't run?11:41
popeyrickspencer3: odd.. installs here11:41
ograLaney, i probably can produce one from ricardos tree11:41
Laneyok11:41
rickspencer3popey, hmmmm11:41
Laneywho will be uploading?11:41
rickspencer3I think I found a juicy bug, then11:42
ograi'm fine to do that11:42
Laneyk11:42
Laneydiff it up then11:42
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rickspencer3popey, I tried installing it, but the phone suspended during install11:42
* Laney installs this new u-s-s and crosses fingers ... 11:42
ograunless you want to ... as the master of gst :)11:42
popeynice!11:42
Laneyno :P11:42
Laneyalthough there is a new upstream release ...11:42
LaneyBAH, segfault11:43
nik90|Laptophi everyone :)11:43
davmor2rickspencer3: ah so cjwatson could do with a click continue to work in the background hook then11:43
nik90|LaptopIs there any QML Api to trigger haptic or audio feedback?11:43
nik90|LaptopI need them to fix https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-clock-app/+bug/122719411:43
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1227194 in Ubuntu Clock App "Timer lacks notification options" [Medium,Confirmed]11:43
rickspencer3davmor2, or we don't let the phone suspend during install11:44
rickspencer3thought I suppose there could be other things that cause an interuption11:44
gatoxsil2100, ping.... hi, are you waiting for the autopilot tests to land the updater projects or that already land yesterday?11:44
davmor2rickspencer3: opening another app might be one too if it is anything like the musicplayer11:45
gatoxsil2100, i'm working on that, but i'm having some failures running autopilot and i don't want to block the release of that11:45
AskUbuntuLatest Ubuntu touch installation on Xperia Neo | http://askubuntu.com/q/34745111:45
popeyrickspencer3: I don't think we should ever supress suspend. That way leads to burning phones in pockets11:45
davmor2rickspencer3: or scrolling to an already open app that is in the background11:45
rickspencer3davmor2, ok, I'm logging a bug11:45
popeyin the same way it leads to burning laptops in bags with ubuntu desktop11:46
rickspencer3fair enough11:46
popeyhmm. if you install a lot of apps, the phone slows to a crawl on boot11:47
popeyapparmor_parser eats the cpu11:47
ograsounds liek a bug11:48
popeyyeah11:48
davmor2man I wish I could sit an play on the phone all day filing bugs but unfortunately these 927 apps won't migrate themselves or process themselves in the queue11:49
rickspencer3popey, davmor2 I put the bug on the click scope, but I doubt that is the right place: bug #122760111:49
ubot5bug 1227601 in Unity Click Scope "suspend during install of click app renders the app un-runable" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122760111:49
rickspencer3cjwatson, is there any debug info I can pull from the phone?11:49
popeys11:50
popeybah11:50
rickspencer3jdstrand, beuno ^ ?11:51
jdstrandrickspencer3: oh, I encountered that11:52
rickspencer3jdstrand, any info I can attach to the bug report?11:52
jdstrandrickspencer3: let me see me workaround11:52
jdstrandrickspencer3: I got it working by killing the download manager and removing its .cache and .local/share/download_manager11:53
rickspencer3jdstrand, ok ... but maybe we should fix the product? ;)11:54
popeybug 1227604  if anyone fancies installing a truckload of apps and test11:54
ubot5bug 1227604 in apparmor (Ubuntu) "Boot speed is significantly affected by installing apps" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122760411:54
jdstrandrickspencer3: I don't know what to attach. you might try that workaround11:54
jdstrandrickspencer3: oh for sure, but that I think points to the download manager as the problem11:55
rickspencer3jdstrand, I'll try the work around and attach that info11:55
rickspencer3it seems like the scope could clear out previous download attempts as well11:55
* jdstrand nods11:55
jjohansenjdstrand: are we not compiling the policy as part of the install?11:56
jdstrandrickspencer3: I think another trigger is to move away from the screen while it is downloading11:56
rickspencer3jdstrand, oh, that is an easier repro, maybe you could drop that in the description for the bug?11:56
rickspencer3and we should automate a test for this11:57
asaccyphermox: hey ... i added a landing ask in row 56 for your NM fixes (wifi/3g roaming)11:57
asaccyphermox: please let me know when you have the patch cleaned etc.11:57
jdstrandjjohansen: we do compile policy on install, but if we get a new kernel on boot, then policy is recompiled11:57
jdstrandpopey: ^11:57
popeydont think i got a new kernel11:58
popeyi just added a click package and rebooted11:58
ograwhy would you get a new kernel ?11:58
jdstrandif someone does a system update, doesn't that give a new kernel on first boot?11:59
popeyI'm just saying the criteria jdstrand said for apparmor parser running doesn't match my experience11:59
popeyi updated, rebooted, installed click package, rebooted11:59
popeyit was the last reboot which was slow11:59
jjohansenpopey: is it still slow on a reboot? 2nd boot I would expect the policy cache to be up to date11:59
popeythat was a second reboot11:59
popeyhappy to boot again11:59
popeyone mo11:59
jdstrandsomething changed with click in that regard, let me look at it11:59
jdstrandpopey: yes, please11:59
popeyuh12:00
popeyLOADS of apparmor_parsers running12:00
ograthats normal, it forks ...12:00
jdstrandloads of them are fine12:00
ograbut it should only happen on first boot12:00
popeytop - 12:00:46 up 0 min,  0 users,  load average: 5.52, 1.56, 0.5312:00
ograwe had that before12:00
jdstrandbut they should all go away immediately with a cache12:00
popeythis is 3rd boot12:00
ograright after flipping the images12:01
ogra(though back then it was a kernel issue)12:01
jdstrandpopey: so, it is pegged-- they are still going?12:01
popeyyes12:01
cjwatsonrickspencer3: Maybe /home/phablet/.cache/unity-scope-click.log12:01
popeyoof, got booted out of adb12:01
jdstrandpopey: can you do 'ps auxww|grep click12:01
cjwatson(sorry, haven't looked in detail, working on release schedule stuff)12:01
popeyfinished now, still no unity12:01
ograpopey, likely OOM12:01
popeyphablet    974  2.2  0.4  14996  8624 ?        Ss   12:00   0:02 /usr/bin/python3 /usr/bin/click hook install-user12:02
popeyphablet   2472 41.0  0.3  11372  5960 ?        R    12:02   0:00 /usr/bin/python3 /usr/bin/click pkgdir com.ubuntu.developer.daker.rad.io12:02
cjwatsonjdstrand: we run system hooks on boot nowadays12:02
jdstrandcjwatson: yes, I was going to ask what install-system is doing12:02
cjwatsonjdstrand: just runs system hooks, shouldn't be anything exotic12:02
popeyright, now unity is starting12:03
cjwatsonjdstrand: maybe it's updating things when it doesn't need to or something12:03
popeytop - 12:03:22 up 3 min,  0 users,  load average: 2.67, 2.12, 0.9312:03
popeyso 3 mins this time12:03
jdstrandpopey: well, the ps auxww was after the parser12:03
cjwatsonjdstrand: I'll have a look at the details of timestamp updates and such12:03
popeythey'd gone by then12:03
jdstrandpopey: can you fill a bug-- we have two places where we cache12:03
sil2100gatox: no no, we're publishing the packages already12:04
popeybug 122760412:04
ubot5bug 1227604 in apparmor (Ubuntu) "Boot speed is significantly affected by installing apps" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122760412:04
gatoxsil2100, awesome! great news12:04
jdstrandcjwatson: aa-clickhook is supposed to already do that12:04
gatoxsil2100, i'll ping you with the autopilot tests as soon as possible12:04
jdstrandpopey: ack, thanks12:04
popeyjdstrand: ^^12:04
cjwatsonjdstrand: I think I've noticed click unnecessarily updating the symlink timestamp12:04
popeycool12:04
cjwatsonjdstrand: which might cause aa-clickhook to regenerate unnecessarily?12:04
jdstrandcjwatson: let me check12:04
jjohansenor possibly the parser12:05
jdstrandjjohansen: it isn't supposed to hit the parser12:05
cjwatson(also, this should get better when click is in C, but that's not for 13.10)12:05
jdstrandjjohansen: well, of course we hit the parser for what is already generated, yes, but I don't think that is the bug12:05
jjohansenjdstrand: the parser is looking at timestamps though, probably isn't the parser but we can look there if it isn't click12:06
jdstrandjjohansen: yes12:06
cwaynenic-doffay: ping12:07
jdstrandpopey: that is with the most up to date image?12:08
sergiusensjdstrand, stable, 5612:10
jdstrandok, I'll update, I'm sure I can reproduce12:10
jdstrandcjwatson: right now I think it is in click-apparmor, but let me look at it more12:10
hramrachGuidoPallemans: it's trivial to install when you run Ubuntu, and not so much when not12:11
hramracheither way the lock app looks cool bu can't really say muc about usablitiy without trying it on a real touch device12:11
rickspencer3jdstrand, so I should just delete everything in ~/.local/share/download-manager?12:11
GuidoPallemanshramrach: woah, what are you replying to?12:11
GuidoPallemanshramrach: ah, yes... that's true12:12
jdstrandrickspencer3: that is what I did, I don't know if it is strictly necessary12:12
hramrachthat installin ubuntu-sdk is 1 command12:12
GuidoPallemanshramrach: I implemented it, because I remember how I had a windows phone 6, and I wanted android so bad, just for that cool lock it had, and only later discovered all the apps12:12
rickspencer3jdstrand, didn't work :/12:13
GuidoPallemanshramrach: I think that something like this can really make people say "woah, what's that?", just from unlocking the device12:13
jdstrandcjwatson: actually, is it possible tempfile.mkstemp would fail when that job runs?12:14
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jdstrandrickspencer3: :(12:15
jdstrandmust be a different bug then12:15
cjwatsonjdstrand: don't see why, it's "start on filesystem"12:16
pmcgowanogra, jppiiroinen and I are discussing how qtc should enable ssh to run12:16
jdstrandI'll no more after I update12:16
jdstrandknow even12:16
rickspencer3ok12:16
rickspencer3meantime, not radio for me :)12:16
pmcgowanogra, I thought it was running but disabled, but perhaps I am wrong, does touching that file trigger upstrat to launch the service?12:16
ograpmcgowan, it has to be disabled by default and i asked on the bug to use the method i described to enable it12:17
ograpmcgowan, i would expect the SDK to now use that method12:17
jppiiroinenogra: i just execute "service ssh start"12:18
jppiiroinenogra: as i noticed that it was set to manual12:18
jppiiroinenogra: i was thinking that this way the "roadwarriors" wont be running their devices open12:18
jppiiroinenlike after reboot the ssh would be down12:18
ograpmcgowan, the touching is just to make it permanent, indeed you have to (like for all not running services) issue a "start ssh" to have it running right now ... i was kind of assuming that basic knowledge12:18
ograjppiiroinen, right, unless you echo "" into the override file12:19
Chocantodanielholm: Hey ! I see you proposed the merge for the toolbar fix on the docviewer12:19
Chocantomhall119: Ping12:21
Chocantodanielholm_: Hey ! I see you proposed the merge for the toolbar fix on the docviewer12:21
danielholm_Chocanto: hi! I got the first notification, but cant open that old window of smuxi. SOrry.12:21
danielholm_Chocanto: that is correct12:22
danielholm_by dpm12:22
Chocantodanielholm_: Ok :) Unfortunately I can't merge it right now... I need to make a plugin available before12:23
Chocantodanielholm_: You need it promptly ?12:23
danielholm_Chocanto: aha okay. please ping if you need any help. I really ned the docviewer working for school ;) I'd be happy to help12:23
danielholm_Chocanto: nah, not that bat. I think I can wait some more.12:24
danielholm_Chocanto: I thought I might give it a try to install on the device from SDK12:24
Chocantodanielholm_: Ok :) I'll try to see if I can add all new features today12:25
danielholm_Chocanto: that would be awesome! :)12:25
Chocantodanielholm_: You can but it's a bit difficult12:25
sergiusensrickspencer3, what's the package name for rad.io ?12:25
Chocantodanielholm_: You can always install the daily build package on your device12:25
Chocantodanielholm_: then correct the part where it make it don't work12:26
danielholm_Chocanto: ok. I got my nexus 4 yesterday and tried out the new image, with system read only, and I'm unsure how to upgrade/install other .debs now. its like impossible, right?12:26
Chocantodanielholm_: But I'm not reallt sure it can work12:26
Chocantodanielholm_: It's possible yes12:26
danielholm_Chocanto: I was thinkhing about doing that, but havent tried yes since read only12:26
danielholm_oh, it is?12:26
Chocantodanielholm_: But you have the new sdk version, so I will not work :)12:26
danielholm_Chocanto: darn it :P12:28
Chocantodanielholm_: I can only advise you to wait a little, and I will ping you to tell you what will be done12:28
danielholm_so I have to get back to the cdimage-touch?12:28
danielholm_lovely12:28
rickspencer3sergiusens, maybe this helps more? https://launchpadlibrarian.net/150707510/ubuntu-download-manager.log12:28
rickspencer3I suppose it's com.ubuntu.developer.daker.rad-io_0.1_unknown.click12:29
danielholm_Chocanto: thank you :) and please do tell if you need anything12:29
danielholm_now, I'll try to get back my readl nick :P12:30
Chocantodanielholm_: If it will work today I can ask to test the docviwer with you pdf's yes )12:30
Chocanto:)12:30
danielholm_Chocanto: great! :)12:30
danielholm_take care12:30
sergiusensrickspencer3, yeah.. pkcon" ("-p", "install-local", "/home/phablet/.local/share/download_manager/{a34755b0-918d-40e7-97ad-58506a4e8a87}/com.ubuntu.developer.daker.rad-io_0.1_unknown.click")12:31
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rickspencer3sergiusens, is that a work around, or you want me to do that to debug?12:32
sergiusensrickspencer3, that's from your log :-)12:32
rickspencer3oh12:32
rickspencer3lol12:32
rickspencer3fair enough12:32
asacricmm: do you know whats going on with the URL parsing or should we call ted?12:34
loolricmm: I've tested latest upstart-app-launch + url-dispatcher + music-app + qtubuntu + platform-api, and I get a space on the process cmdline12:35
loolricmm: /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/bin/qmlscene /usr/share/music-app/music-app.qml --file= file:///home/phablet/Music/bilan-et-perspectives-cd-cd-03-monde-de-droite.flac --desktop_file_hint=/usr/share/applications/music-app.desktop12:35
loolricmm: I guess this is in upstart-app-launch/helpers.c somewhere, haven't debugged yet; do you have this fixed somewhere?12:36
sergiusensrickspencer3, jdstrand cjwatson ** (process:2601): WARNING **: Unable to load desktop file '/opt/click.ubuntu.com/.click/users/phablet/com.ubuntu.developer.daker.rad.io/rad.io.desktop': Key file does not start with a group12:37
sergiusensdesktop file is busted12:37
dakersergiusens: i believe you are using an old package12:37
OrokuSakiMorning all12:37
sergiusensdaker, I installed what was available on the store12:38
sergiusenslet me try again in case I'm cached12:38
dakersergiusens: you are right12:38
dakeri'll push an update tonight if you want to check here is an updated click package http://ubuntuone.com/6fCGAjnnU1qsuEG31cw6L512:39
sergiusensdaker, thanks12:39
sergiusensrickspencer3, wait until tonight12:39
jdstrandsergiusens: what was that from, the review script?12:39
sergiusensjdstrand, no, I upstart started it from the cli12:40
rickspencer3sergiusens, sure, but note that it worked just fine for popey12:40
popeyrickspencer3: i didnt install from store12:40
sergiusensstart application APP_ID=com.ubuntu.developer.daker.rad.io_rad.io_0.112:40
rickspencer3oh12:40
popeyrickspencer3: I was testing click packages with daker last night12:40
rickspencer3popey, you cheater!12:40
jdstrandsergiusens: is that in the store now?12:40
sergiusensjdstrand, yeah :-/12:40
dakerrickspencer3: this one http://ubuntuone.com/6fCGAjnnU1qsuEG31cw6L512:40
popeyyes. yes I am.12:40
rickspencer3nm, I can just wait12:40
rickspencer3I guess I'll set the bug report as invalid12:40
jdstrandsergiusens: I'll look at the review scripts to see if we can detect that12:41
sergiusensjdstrand, not sure we already validate proper desktop files12:41
jdstrandsergiusens: tbh, I'm quite surprised it didn't already12:41
dakerone thing i can't find on the click package docs is the "architecture" dholbach said i need to set that to "armhf" on the manifest12:42
jdstranddaker: in manifest.json12:42
jdstranddaker: "architecture": "armhf",12:42
dakerjdstrand: ya but that's not mentioned here https://click-package.readthedocs.org/en/latest/file-format.html12:43
danielholmHi all, I'm trying to use the Arguments API for Music app, but having some issues12:43
jdstranddaker: yes, I believe it was temporary and then turned into something more widely used. perhaps cjwatson can comment12:43
danielholmI cant use the args.defaultArgument.at(0)12:44
danielholmit gives me the qml file and not the file Iäm trying to run12:45
danielholm?12:45
jdstrandsergiusens: the review script clearly shows an inability to parse the desktop file12:46
jdstrandsergiusens: I'll comment on the list12:46
kalikianatvoss: ping12:48
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ograsil2100, so, your seed changes ... how far are the packages ?12:55
* sil2100 checks the queue12:57
sil2100ogra: so, it's still in the NEW queue, I asked Colin to push them further but I guess he's busy12:57
ograyeah, other release team tasks ...12:57
nic-doffaycwayne, pong12:57
sil2100But he said he'll take care of that in the nearest moments12:58
ograsil2100, btw, dont you like -ci-eng anymore ? :)12:58
sil2100ogra: heh, didn't add that to my auto-join ;)12:58
cwaynenic-doffay: hi, i had some questions about the infographic if you had a second?12:59
loolricmm: This is LP #122763213:00
ubot5Launchpad bug 1227632 in upstart-app-launch (Ubuntu) "Adds spaces when processing --xyz=%u args" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122763213:00
plarsgusch: hi13:01
guschplars: hi13:01
plarsgusch: ran across bug #1227373 quite a bit13:01
ubot5bug 1227373 in camera-app "test_capture.TestCapture.test_shoot_button_disable autopilot test failure" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122737313:01
plarsgusch: seems to sometimes pass, sometimes fail13:01
plarsgusch: on one of the devices with the latest build, it passed the first time, the other took about 5 retries13:02
plarsgusch: I remember seeing it before on and off too though13:02
plarsgusch: is this one you're aware of?13:02
guschplars: no - om26er are you? ^13:03
plarsom26er: might be interested too:  bug #122737313:03
ubot5bug 1227373 in camera-app "test_capture.TestCapture.test_shoot_button_disable autopilot test failure" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122737313:03
om26ergusch, plars sure13:04
asacom26er: plars: i think we discussed that this test needs to be redone13:04
asacthomi said there was a reliable way to do that13:04
sergiusensgusch, this tests checks if the shutter goes from disabled to enabled when shooting a photo with very high chances of races since its testing a transition13:05
sergiusensautopilot is not really design to test 'animations' this way13:05
pmcgowansergiusens, this is all very suspicious, any chance what we are using to inject touches is faulty?13:05
om26erso we should not check if the button was disabled?13:05
pmcgowanseems like all these symptoms would happen if we got two instead of one touch13:06
asaci thought thomi said there are better ways to do that13:06
om26erremove that one like which asserts that and it should not fail13:06
cjwatsondaker,jdstrand,dholbach: the architecture field is still in flux and may change; bdmurray is working on a chroot management tool which is kind of a soft prereq for that13:06
sergiusenspmcgowan, no, you have two 'waits' for events one after the other for the same action13:06
sergiusenspmcgowan, autopilot is not real time and does not store and forward states to be consumed13:06
tedglool, Hey, I hear you missed me!  :-)13:06
pmcgowanI am seeing failed tests where a button or widget is not in the state it should be after one touch13:07
pmcgowansergiusens, I am not yet buying the race thing13:07
sergiusenspmcgowan, well that test in particular is a different case13:07
pmcgowanok13:07
sergiusenspmcgowan, I discussed last week with thomi and om26er and we agreed it was racy13:07
jdstrandpopey: can you paste the output of the command in http://paste.ubuntu.com/6128227/13:08
popeyjdstrand: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6128230/13:09
looltedg: hey13:09
pmcgowansergiusens, based on what? do we have data on the types of tests failing and how often?13:09
looltedg: https://code.launchpad.net/~lool/upstart-app-launch/lp-1227632/+merge/186526 for the link to bug and what I understand of the issue13:09
pmcgowansergiusens, frankly something not adding up, this should be much more consistent13:09
looltedg: LP #122763213:09
ubot5Launchpad bug 1227632 in upstart-app-launch (Ubuntu) "Adds spaces when processing --xyz=%u args" [High,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122763213:09
sergiusenspmcgowan, based on the code http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~phablet-team/camera-app/trunk/view/head:/tests/autopilot/camera_app/tests/test_capture.py#L14113:09
sergiusenspmcgowan, look at those final two lines13:10
jdstrandcjwatson: fyi, for now for compiled programs developers are being requested to use "architecture": "armhf", unitl the fat packages/etc thing is worked out. if that is wrong, should be discussed on the list13:10
looltedg: I'm also pretty suspicious that it wont work with spaces in the filenames, but haven't tested that yet13:10
looltedg: branch is untested BTW, was hoping to get .debs from bot13:10
pmcgowansergiusens, that looks odd13:10
tedglool, Yeah, I don't think that'll work.13:11
sergiusenspmcgowan, by the time you try self.assertThat(exposure_button.enabled, Eventually(Equals(False))) the _transition_ might have already happened13:11
jdstrandpopey: oh, this was unexpected: stat: cannot stat '/var/cache/apparmor/*': No such file or directory13:11
tedglool, Let me look though.13:11
cjwatsonjdstrand: It would be nice if somebody had told me13:11
pmcgowansergiusens, ok I buy that this is a bad test13:11
popeyjdstrand: double checked, it's right ☻13:11
jdstrandpopey: I thought I narrowed it down to "stat: cannot stat '/etc/apparmor.d/cache/*': No such file or directory"13:11
cjwatsonjdstrand: I suspect that architecture may need to become a list; I suppose I'll have to rename it if people are using it13:11
jdstrandcjwatson: I thought it was on the list or you were in cc in emails. sorry if you weren;t13:12
cjwatsonjdstrand: (there's a reason that the click file format has a mechanism for extensions)13:12
* jdstrand didn't drive that-- it was a bit of a group thing13:12
sergiusenspmcgowan, this test can be done with signals and parsing them afterwards (no threading here) or just manually13:12
jdstrandpopey: I don't doubt the output :)13:13
cjwatsonin future can you make sure that anything other than "x-" prefixed manifest elements you're recommending to developers are explicitly in the file-format spec before they're used13:13
jdstrandpopey: as root, can you do 'touch /var/cache/apparmor/foo'13:13
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tedglool, Okay, I thought we were splitting on space.  But it looks like just a split on %.13:14
cjwatsonsil2100: could you please make click-update-manager not build on powerpc (i.e. "Architecture: amd64 arm64 armhf i386"), since it depends on qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-click0.1 which presumably won't build on powerpc?  You won't get through -proposed otherwise since that's one extra uninstallable package13:14
cjwatson(I'm assuming that qtdeclarative is going to build on arm64 once we get that far ...)13:15
hramrachGuidoPallemans: I trird to set up a touch-enabled tablet input device but that uses tap-drag and with that the lock app is definitely unusable. Obviously you can't really do direct touch when the touch surface and display surface are separate13:15
cjwatsonsil2100: Or if you don't want to hardcode the architecture list you could insert an artificial Build-Depends: qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-click0.113:15
hramrachand Ubuntu touch does not work on the real tablet I have so that's about it13:15
jdstrandpopey: was /var/cache/apparmor/foo written out?13:15
sil2100cjwatson: sure, but hm... I think we didn't have to do it for any other packages, since it's not going to cause problems right?13:15
cjwatsonsil2100: We've had to do it for some other packages where it has caused problems13:16
sil2100hm, ok13:16
ograsil2100, we have [!powerpc] in a bunch of touch packages already13:16
GuidoPallemanshramrach: I always tested it on a laptop without mouse, it works, but could be easier..13:16
tedglool, I can test it on my phone, I already have the build env setup.13:16
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loolcjwatson: FYI, tried to cross-build upstart-app-launch and got:  click-dev:armhf : Depends: perl:armhf but it is not going to be installed13:17
lool                   Depends: python3-click:armhf (= 0.4.6) but it is not going to be installed13:17
loolcjwatson: in cse you're tempted to look into it  :-)13:17
thomiHey touch guys - the volume buttons don't seem to do anything at all on the mako - is that a known issue?13:17
hramrachIt wouks well with pen input but pretty much anything pointy clicky does except applications relying on ability to click without moving the pointer at all13:17
ogracjwatson, will you let it through anyway or do we wait for another upload (/me has a depending seed change waiting)13:17
cjwatsonlool: It's unlikely to work until both perl and python are multiarched all the way I suspect13:18
loolcjwatson: sounds like the perl:armhf should be perl:any; same for python3-click dep13:18
tedgthomi, There was a branch landing for that, not sure if it's in the image yet.13:18
sil2100ogra, cjwatson: for instance notes-app doesn't have [!powerpc] and any hardcoded architectures13:18
cjwatsonlool: perl:any won't work yet13:18
loolcjwatson: too bad; ok thanks13:18
sil2100But I guess the trick with the extra build-deps is good13:18
cwaynenic-doffay: in particular im curious as to how to add data?  it seems like it needs to be run from some kind of binary, how would we be able to do this from /custom?13:18
sergiusensplars, I added a comment to your bug report13:18
looltedg: that would be good13:18
thomitedg: I don't suppose there are tests? It'd be pretty trivial to inject volume up/don button events with autopilot :)13:18
cjwatsonsil2100: notes-app Build-Depends: qtdeclarative5-dev13:18
cjwatsonsil2100: hence is dep-wait on powerpc13:19
cjwatsonlool: there is WIP to multiarch perl but it certainly won't happen until at least T13:19
cjwatsonogra: I'm going to let it through anyway unless I see anything else13:19
cjwatsonogra: But it won't reach images13:19
tedgthomi, I don't know, it's pretty simple code, mostly just giving it to indicator sound: https://code.launchpad.net/~larsu/unity8/lp1219057/+merge/18462213:19
cjwatsonor saucy13:19
ograbecause of propoosed migration ? yeah13:19
cjwatsonidneed13:20
cjwatson*indeed13:20
cjwatson(well, and because I don't believe in forcing fixable things)13:20
popeyjdstrand: you have the entire output13:20
popeycd13:20
popeybah13:20
cjwatsonactually, maybe I can make it work13:20
* popey misses sloppy focus13:20
cjwatsonsil2100: please let me know once you've committed a fix to make it not build or dep-wait on powerpc (I think the artificial build-dep trick is probably the most elegant approach) and I can remove the powerpc binary from the archive13:21
popeyjdstrand: sorry, missed one of your lines, yes the foo file does get written out13:21
cjwatsonsil2100: that will let it migrate without you needing to go through an extra daily-release pass13:21
sil2100cjwatson: ACK!13:21
looltedg: it's building now http://10.97.2.10:8080/job/upstart-app-launch-saucy-armhf-ci/75/console13:21
davmor2popey: How dare you call your wife that ;)13:21
popeyʘ‿ಠ13:22
davmor2popey: Misses Sloppy Focus :D13:22
ogradoes that make him Mr Sloppy Focus ?13:23
davmor2popey: sorry just tickled me when I read it :)13:23
jdstrandpopey: feel free to 'rm /var/cache/apparmor/foo'13:26
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nic-doffaycwayne, I'm not sure I haven't been dealing with this.13:26
looltedg: for some reason, build didn't output .debs; just succeeded to build13:27
cwaynenic-doffay: ah, ok. any idea who has?13:27
Guest74013I'm just flashin Galaxy Nexus with Ubuntu and it asks me "rom may flash stock recovery on boot". Shoul I say here yes or no?13:27
tedglool, Yeah, some builds do that, some don't.  It must be a pref in cu2d?13:27
loolweird13:27
looltedg: if you have .debs....13:27
loolI'm installing bdeps now13:27
nic-doffaycwayne, sadly not.13:27
tedgYeah, just a sec.  Trying to get updates to get the right music-app13:28
cwaynepete-woods: would you be able to help me with my infographic questions (or point me to whomever can?) :)13:28
sil2100cjwatson: https://code.launchpad.net/~sil2100/click-update-manager/artificial_dep_wait/+merge/186539 <- whaddayathink?13:29
pete-woodscwayne: I should hopefully be able to answer your questions :)13:31
cwaynepete-woods: great! thanks. mainly I'm wondering the best way to add data to it13:31
cwaynepete-woods: what we've come up with so far is running a binary, but unsure we can do that from /custom13:31
cwaynedo we have a generally accepted way of adding data sources?13:32
cjwatsonsil2100: looks good to me13:32
pete-woodscwayne: well it has an API in the form of (http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/devel/ubuntu-13.10/cplusplus/usermetrics/)13:32
tedgUhg, seems U1 is wedged.13:33
pete-woodscwayne: e.g. http://developer.ubuntu.com/api/devel/ubuntu-13.10/cplusplus/usermetrics/MetricManagerIncrementToday_8cpp-example.html for a simple incrementing metric13:33
jdstrandstgraber: what during boot looks at /etc/system-image/writable-paths?13:33
* ogra thinks the initrd13:34
tedglool, http://ubuntuone.com/24MW7t53qg7qoL8OB2eW53?attach=true13:34
ogracat ${rootmnt}/etc/system-image/writable-paths | while read line; do13:34
looltedg: so built13:34
looltedg: here13:35
looltedg: and ran it13:35
cjwatsonjdstrand: lxc-android-config13:35
looltedg: and got this ps output:13:35
loolphablet   8830 40.5  3.4 263028 65784 ?        Ssl  13:34   0:04      \_ /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/bin/qmlscene /usr/share/music-app/music-app.qml --file=file:///home/phablet/Music/Quelle%20Histoire%20dans%20les%20manuels%3F%20-%2059'53''.mp3 --desktop_file_hint=/usr/share/applications/music-app.desktop13:35
looltedg: so it looks correct with the fix, but it doens't work13:35
cwaynepete-woods: right, so i believe that's what we've used, but i guess we're worried about running an executable from /custom13:35
ograjdstrand, ^^^ scripts/touch in initramfs-tools-ubuntu-touch13:35
cwaynessweeny: ^ is that right?13:35
looltedg: might be the ' in the filename13:35
ssweenycwayne, right13:35
cjwatsoner wait13:35
cjwatsonjdstrand: sorry, initramfs-tools-ubuntu-touch13:35
looltedg: tried a simpler one, and didn't work either:13:35
loolphablet   8937 37.0  3.3 262484 64888 ?        Ssl  13:35   0:04      \_ /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/qt5/bin/qmlscene /usr/share/music-app/music-app.qml --file=file:///home/phablet/Music/bilan-et-perspectives-cd-cd-03-monde-de-droite.flac --desktop_file_hint=/usr/share/applications/music-app.desktop13:35
ssweenycwayne, we should be able to execute from /custom13:35
ssweenyscopes can run from there after all13:36
jdstrandpopey: can you run 'aa-clickhook -f' and then tell me if /var/cache/apparmor fills up?13:36
cwaynessweeny: so then what was matts concern?13:36
pete-woodscwayne: okay, so I guess I don't have enough context to understand really, I was expected the new metrics to come from either ubuntu SDK apps, or from the likes of upower, with a distro patch to connect to the C API13:36
pete-woods*expecting13:36
tedglool, Do launching the music player from the command line work?13:36
tedgDoes13:36
popeyjdstrand: ya13:36
looltedg: I mean, the music-app comes up, but it doesn't launch the file13:37
looltedg: ok, got: unknown option -- file=file:///home/phablet/Music/foo.mp313:37
cwaynepete-woods: so we're working on the customized image for OEMs/Carriers, and we wanted to have custom data sources (fake ones at the moment), that's stuff like '400 verizon to verizon minutes used'13:37
jdstrandogra, cjwatson: the weird thing is that on popey's device, /var/cache/apparmor doesn't get populated on boot. on mine it does. /var/cache/apparmor ends up writable by popey at some point. it feels like there is a race between when the click system hook job is run and when /var/cache/apparmor is rw13:37
popeyjdstrand: i have every single app from the store installed, if that's interesting/useful13:38
popeyto know13:38
jdstrandI don't know how that would be possible if /var/cache/apparmor is mounted rw in the initrd13:38
looltedg: I think it's qmlscene13:38
ograjdstrand, a0 is it the same device ? b) dod you flash freshly or did you update13:38
jdstrandpopey: it confirms that aa-clickhook is passing the correct args to apparmor_parser to use the cache13:38
pete-woodscwayne: okay, I understand, I guess you are stuck with running a binary of some sort13:38
cyphermoxasac: ack.13:39
pete-woodscwayne: there is a command line interface, although I make no effort to maintain its backwards compatability13:39
jdstrandogra: we both have mako according to Uname: Linux 3.4.0-3-mako armv7l13:39
ograk13:39
tedglool, Okay, but that doesn't effect that merge.  I just got things updated, so I'll check, but I think your fix is good.13:39
jdstrandpopey: thanks-- can you 'rm -f /var/cache/apparmor/*'13:39
pete-woodscwayne: it's really more for testing, though, but I suppose you could hook into it with some bash if this is just to demo stuff?13:40
jdstrandpopey: you're the one that can reproduce it, so lets get it back into a reproducible state13:40
cyphermoxdavmor2: want to test my package too for the NM fix popey has? more testing is always better.13:40
cwaynepete-woods: ah, understood.  just out of curiousity, is there plans to expand that api (like maybe to be able to easily use it from QML+JS)13:40
popeyjdstrand: yeah, /var/cache/apparmor is empty after running aa-clickhook -f13:40
cwaynepete-woods: i think the executable should be fine in this context13:40
ograjdstrand, i wonder if there is code to migrate the persistent rw data on upgrades ... i assume formats of configs of packages might change and want to be transitioned at times13:40
popeyjdstrand: i have a second phone I can look at too13:40
pete-woodscwayne: there are QML bindings being written for it right now13:40
jdstrandpopey: oh, I thought you said it was populated?13:40
popeynope13:41
cwaynepete-woods: cool! thanks a lot for the info13:41
popeyfoo wrote there13:41
popeyit's empty on both phones13:41
davmor2cyphermox: I can do you have .debs for it, or is it build from source, debs I have time for13:41
cyphermoxI have the debs13:41
pete-woodscwayne: no problem. glad to help!13:41
jdstrandpopey: so aa-clickhook didn't add anything to /var/cache/apparmor?13:41
ograjdstrand, popey so it would be intresting to know if it happens for a freshly flashed and wiped devices too13:41
popeycorrect jdstrand13:41
cyphermoxdavmor2: http://people.ubuntu.com/~mathieu-tl/network-manager/13:41
popeyogra: this is fresh13:41
jdstrandok, then let me look at that then13:41
popeyi flashed it today13:41
ograpopey, right, and jdstrand probably updated13:41
cyphermoxdavmor2: I'll keep testing on my side some more as well13:41
looltedg: ok, so the issue is music-app doesn't support file://13:42
jdstrandI did update13:42
popeywell, i have one that was updated, one that was flashed13:42
ograwhich would explain the difference13:42
looltedg: it works with --file=/home/phablet/Music/foo.mp313:42
jdstrandI did not flash13:42
ograyeah13:42
looltedg: please happrove the fix I've pushed13:42
ograso you carry some config that popey doesnt have13:42
tedglool, Ah, so change the desktop file to be "%f"13:42
ogra(in some of the writable paths)13:43
jdstrandpopey: did aa-clickhook give any error output?13:43
popeyjdstrand: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6128357/13:43
tedglool, Changing to %f worked to change the command line for me, but it doesn't seem the file opened.13:43
jdstrandpopey: are those all things you uninstalled?13:44
popeyi haven't uninstalled anything13:44
popeyi have everything installed13:44
looltedg: after switching to %f I still see file:// on the cmdline13:45
jdstrandpopey: right, but it looks like several apps were upgraded13:46
popeyyes13:47
jdstrandcjwatson: question, are hooks run after garbage coolection?13:47
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cjwatsonjdstrand: during what operation?13:47
jdstrandcjwatson: I'm ending up with dangling symlinks in /var/lib/apparmor/click on unregister, it seems13:47
looltedg: which is to blame, upstart-app-launch or music-app13:48
tedglool, If %f doesn't work, that's upstart-app-launch's fault.  But the music player should support URLs as well.13:48
jdstrandcjwatson: well, either garbage collection or unregister (not sure which). also not sure if there is a difference from the hooks point of view13:49
cjwatsonjdstrand: After, but it shouldn't matter anyway13:49
tedglool, So I guess we need a music player change either way.13:49
cjwatsonjdstrand: Give me a repro recipe in a bug and I'll look into it, bit swamped13:49
tedglool, Rebooting, but it seems i no longer have adb :-/13:49
looltedg: How did you see the right pathname on the cmdline by switching to %f?13:49
cjwatsonjdstrand: I'm also in the middle of looking into dangling symlinks in /var/lib/apparmor/click/ in a related situation so it may turn out to be the same13:49
jdstrandcjwatson: ok-- that isn't popey's problem because click-apparmor just skips them, but I've been meaning to ask you about it. wasn't sure if it was click-apaprmor responsibility to clean the symlink or not13:50
cjwatsonjdstrand: actually now I come to think of it it could be the same situation13:50
cjwatsonjdstrand: it's not click-apparmor's responsibility, no13:50
cjwatsonjdstrand: click-apparmor needs to respond to the file being missing and clean up the profile13:50
cjwatsonjdstrand: just as any hook does13:50
tedglool, sent a url via url-dispatcher and then did ps -ef13:50
cjwatsonjdstrand: but the same problem is happening with .desktop files, so after unregistration I'm seeing icons still in the click scope13:50
jdstrandcjwatson: oh, we aren't cleaning anything-- we are just skipping it13:50
cjwatsonjdstrand: you would clean it if the entry were actually missing from the directory13:51
cjwatsonjdstrand: so once I fix it to remove the directory, this should be fixed, I think13:51
cjwatsoner, remove the entry13:51
cjwatsonthe link13:51
jdstrandoh, I see what you mean13:51
jdstrandright if the link dangles, we skip. if the link is missing, we clean13:51
cjwatsonand the link should never dangle in normal operation13:52
cjwatsoncertainly a bug13:52
jdstrand(that is what we do now)13:52
* jdstrand nods13:52
jdstrandcjwatson: do you want the reproducer?13:52
cjwatsonjdstrand: nah, it's OK13:52
jdstrandk13:52
cjwatsonjdstrand: but a tracking bug would be great13:52
* jdstrand goes back to popey13:52
jdstrandok13:52
popey13:53
loolpmcgowan, tedg: https://bugs.launchpad.net/music-app/+bug/1227677 for music-app .desktop file and URL handling13:54
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1227677 in Ubuntu Music App "Doesn't support URLs" [Undecided,New]13:54
tedgHmm, this time I got a "--file="13:54
tedgThe keyboard is also really messed up.13:54
jibelwhich file formats does the music scope support? only mp3?13:54
popeyjdstrand: i have to go to a meeting at kids school, will be back later, if you need anything from me, just ping and I'll see when i get back (or comment on bug)13:55
thostr_afklool: is activation of web content working for you?13:56
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loolthostr_: can you give me a way to test this?14:00
thostr_lool: go to home screen, invoke search and enter "wiki:berlin"14:00
loolthostr_: can't open battery settings from indicator-power anymore though14:00
loolthostr_: oh sorry, cancel that, it launched in the background14:01
jdstrandcjwatson: fyi, bug #122768114:01
ubot5bug 1227681 in click (Ubuntu) "dangling symlinks in /var/lib/apparmor/clicks" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122768114:01
jdstrandcjwatson: I even gave you a reproducer for upgrades14:01
thostr_ted: ^14:01
loolthostr_: so with wiki:Paris I'm seeing some results in the dash, then I open a link?14:02
thostr_yes14:02
loolthostr_: this worked; I saw a productsearchsomething URL then wikipedia14:02
loolthostr_: webbrowser launched in the bg since other app was running, but that's know bug14:02
thostr_ok, then something is wrong with my system...14:02
thostr_lool: tedg: DEBUG: Emitting 'application-start' for APP_ID='ubuntu-system-settings' and URLS='settings://system/battery'14:03
davmor2tedg: by the way what has happened to the messaging indicator?  I really miss that now :(14:03
Guest1225lool: meeting?14:04
thostr_lool: tedg: so system settings get opened in the background, but the power page is not selected14:04
tedgdavmor2, I think dednick|lunch had a branch to fix that in unity8, not sure if it's landed.14:04
thostr_tedg: can system-settings app handle the new url already?14:04
tedgthostr_, I'm not sure if mardy has implemented the handling of that url yet.14:04
davmor2tedg: nice14:04
tedgUhg, the music app emits too much debugging info to make debugging it on the phone possible.14:05
jdstrandpopey: can you paste the output of http://paste.ubuntu.com/6128432/14:05
thostr_tedg: do you have already filed a bug report for system settings? if not I'll do14:05
jdstrandpopey: (I wish I could reproduce here)14:05
jdstrandI could flash grouper14:06
davmor2cyphermox: you're gonna hate me http://paste.ubuntu.com/6128434/ no 3g.  I'm gonna enable debug and reboot and see what is what then14:06
cjwatsonjdstrand: thanks14:07
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cyphermoxdavmor2: don't even need debug... send me syslog first and I'll look14:07
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davmor2cyphermox: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6128447/14:08
tedgthostr_, No, I haven't, but I'll bring up on the settings call that is now.14:09
thostr_tedg: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/122769014:10
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1227690 in ubuntu-system-settings "system-settings app doesn't handle page/setting request properly" [Undecided,New]14:10
dpmhi mardy, could you join us for a few minutes on #ubuntu-touch-meeting for a quick discussion on online accounts?14:10
davmor2cyphermox: to install, I enabled .writable_image, rebooted, installed using dpkg -i *.deb, then rm .writable_image, then rebooted.  and then magically expected it to work :(  maguro 3g hates me14:11
cyphermoxdavmor2: actually I wonder if the fact that you set it up to be ro again caused issues?14:11
cyphermoxthough I guess not otherwise no RO would work14:11
stgraberjdstrand: scripts/touch in the initrd is what's parsing writable-paths and generating a temporary fstab for mountall to process14:12
Laneymardy: coming to the hangout?14:12
davmor2cyphermox: I set it back to RO so it has a more realistic environment for testing14:12
cyphermoxyeah14:12
cyphermoxso it's still the same issue... can't explain it14:12
cyphermoxI'll add some more logging and build a new package, we'll figure out exactly why it fails14:13
cyphermoxI kind of know why, but I'd like to make certain14:13
Laneycyphermox: you too if you have anythign to say14:13
cyphermoxLaney: not so much... just sad that we don't have bluetooth settings yet14:13
Laneyok14:14
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barrymandel: ping14:15
mandelbarry, pong14:15
cyphermoxdavmor2: do you have an android device with the same provider to check something?14:16
cyphermoxdavmor2: to go along with that question, are you ever able to connect to 3G with your provider?14:16
gemapopey: I have an important bug that needs fixing, let me know if it is in your list already: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/telephony-service/+bug/122769114:16
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1227691 in telephony-service (Ubuntu) "Call will be sent to voicemail if the user has an app in the foreground" [Critical,Confirmed]14:16
davmor2cyphermox: I can take the sim out and drop it in my s3 which is where the sim came from, or I can flash this one with android14:17
davmor2cyphermox: if I reboot nm it connects14:17
davmor2let me try now14:17
davmor2cyphermox: so restarting network-manager gives me a connection via 3g,  if you want I can flash android back on and run any tests you want?14:20
cyphermoxdavmor2: no, that was sufficient14:20
cyphermoxah, maybe send me syslog again just to see?14:21
pmcgowansergiusens, so coreapps still only reside in the PPA is that right?14:21
davmor2cyphermox: new syslog http://paste.ubuntu.com/6128504/14:22
sergiusenspmcgowan, core community apps yes14:22
jdstrandpopey: can you paste the output of http://paste.ubuntu.com/6128432/14:23
pmcgowansergiusens, there is a qtdeclarative package also coming from there14:23
sergiusenspmcgowan, 2 actually14:23
davmor2cyphermox: it took two restarts by the way14:23
cjwatsonsil2100: removed click-update-manager/powerpc, it should hopefully migrate shortly14:26
mardyLaney: sorry, was afk14:26
mardydpm: same there :-)14:26
pmcgowansergiusens, nemo and grilo right? is that what we want or should they move into the archive?14:27
sil2100cjwatson: thanks! The modification should be merged now in trunk so it should be safe in next releases - thanks for noticing and acting!14:28
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pmcgowansergiusens, ? seems the grilo package is in saucy, so what else do we pull from that PPA?14:31
pmcgowanpopey, do you know if any apps are using that grilo package?14:32
davmor2popey: now try opening the dialer app,  then open the camera and have that as the active app and then ring your phone14:33
pmcgowanor mhall119?14:33
tvosssomeone pinged me :)14:34
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pmcgowanI also see poppler in there14:34
AskUbuntuQt Creator reverted back to some previous version | http://askubuntu.com/q/34751814:35
cjwatsonjdstrand: Right, I think I have two bugs here.  Firstly, system hooks aren't run on GC at all.  Secondly, click hook install-{system,user} don't notice if packages have gone missing and catch up with that by removing the symlinks.14:36
sergiusenspmcgowan, let me get back to you on that14:36
jdstrandah14:37
jdstrandcool14:37
Laneytedg: Does https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1227690 mean that u-s-s will be passed that settings:// thing as a commandline argument?14:48
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1227690 in ubuntu-system-settings "system-settings app doesn't handle page/setting request properly" [Undecided,New]14:48
tedgSo my device isn't showing up in "adb devices" is that off by default now?14:48
gematedg: not that I know of14:49
gematedg: mine shows14:49
tedgLaney, If it has a "%u" in its Exec line.  I haven't checked to ensure that.  But yes.14:49
tedggema, Hmm, okay.  Thanks.14:49
Laneytedg: It knows how to launch a panel if given its name as an argument14:50
Laneye.g. system-settings battery works14:50
Laneybut not the URL form14:51
jdstrandcjwatson: fyi, I just confirmed the dangling symlink on unregister too. I guess that is part of GC, but wanted to mention it (comment in bug)14:51
anders3408|afkanyone on that  has been working or debugging on the evdev/hardware buttons  ? specially pwr and volume up and down ?14:52
cjwatsonjdstrand: right14:52
cjwatsonogra,sil2100: click-update-manager should be fine for that metapackage update14:53
ogragreat14:53
ograi think there was another package from that set to be seeded though14:53
ograsil2100, ^^^14:53
cjwatsonogra: actually, sorry, click-update-manager still needs a publisher run14:53
cjwatsonit's through migration14:54
ogracjwatson, yeah, i'm not that fast anyway ... and have a meeting in 5min14:54
sil2100ogra, cjwatson: right, clickmanager-plugin is in release already, but click-update-manager is still pending14:54
ograsil2100, and you want both seeded ?14:54
anders3408|afkogra:  we didnt really get much longer on that issue im having with the reboot thingy, if you have some time it would be nice :)14:54
cjwatsonogra: click-update-manager depends on the other14:55
anders3408|afkand oh hello :914:55
anders3408|afk:)14:55
ograah, good14:55
davmor2cyphermox: do you need anything else?14:55
cyphermoxdavmor2: nah, I'm building the package now14:55
ograi just remember this morning there were two packages related  to this14:55
cyphermoxit's going to take a bit, virtualized...14:55
ograaha qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-click0.114:56
davmor2cyphermox: no worries give me a ping even if I'm away, irssi will email me and I'll try it as soon as I can14:56
tedgOkay, and I can't reflash without adb... hmm...14:58
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josephttedg: did you try killing adb on your host?14:59
pmcgowanmhall119, ping again15:00
tedgYeah, let me do it again :-)15:00
pmcgowanpopey, ping15:00
om26erwhen does the music service land ?15:00
pmcgowanom26er, maybe next week, tvoss looking into it15:01
pmcgowanom26er, or maybe not for release15:01
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om26er:/ ok. I would want my music playback without any my intervention to tap on screen :)15:02
tvossom26er, we can alternatively whitelist the music app15:02
kdubso... in the nexus 4 flicker15:03
om26ertvoss, yes, I think that's a fair compromise. though the music app needs to hog less cpu15:03
om26erits 10% cpu for pulseaudio and 15% for the qmlscene when music app is running15:03
om26erkdub, and what about the screen not going off ?15:04
kdubom26er, separate issue15:04
om26erkdub, right, sure. Just wanted to know if anyone was working on that already :)15:04
mhr3_anyone noticed that upstart is using about 50% cpu when switching pages in the dash?15:04
kdubom26er, its in theworks15:05
om26erkdub, good to know. thanks15:05
kdubbut with the flicker, my working theory is that we're not using the hwc that was provided by qcom's code aurora forum15:06
kdubi'm not really sure where the hwc came from in the build actually, just looks like 'what works for cm'15:06
om26ertvoss, btw the app lifecycle policy got stricter as soon as the light goes off the music app stop, previously it may take 5-6 seconds for it to go down.. making good progress there15:07
tvossom26er, ack, that sounds good15:08
Ant59Is it possible to sync my Google contacts to Ubuntu Touch?15:17
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Ant59How do I write to the filesystem? I can't even install apps currently. It's completely read-only,15:21
Ant59Anyone know?15:22
ograAnt59, you use click apps from the UI ... apt isnt supported by default anymore ... you can use it after making the image writable but will use upgradeability then (and it will most likely break at some point)15:23
ogras/use/lose/15:23
Ant59Oh I see. I've only just started looking at Ubuntu Touch so I've no knowledge on how the system is intended to work.15:24
Ant59Is there an app that will allow me to sync my Google contact?15:24
Ant59*contacts15:24
ograi'm not sure that still works, i think google closed donw their api for this15:25
ograsergiusens, ^^^ do you know if that still works ?15:25
Ant59Damn :/ I was hoping to use Touch on my Daily Driver for a few days.15:26
ograright, i know there was a way in the past, but i really think google blocked it15:26
Ant59Okay fair enoughj15:27
looldholbach: Hey, would you be able to help shepard https://code.launchpad.net/~lool/music-app/lp-1227677/+merge/186568 to landing in lp:music-app?  I'm not sure who to ping, but I think you landed things there recently?  :-)15:29
loolpmcgowan tedg: switching music-app to %f ^15:29
looltedg: do you have a bug for the upstart-app-launch thing?15:29
pmcgowanlool, did you change it? I asked bfiller15:29
tedglool, No, I haven't filled on.15:29
tedgone15:30
loolpmcgowan: sorry, yes, it was trivial15:30
pmcgowanbfiller, nm lool already did it15:30
bfillerpmcgowan, lool : just did MR, it's here https://code.launchpad.net/~bfiller/music-app/fix-1227677/+merge/18656915:30
loolbfiller: I'm sorry15:30
bfillerah, np15:30
loolbfiller: let me kill mine15:30
loolbfiller: sorry about that15:30
dholbachlool, no, not quite15:30
loolbfiller, dholbach: Who should we ping to land this?15:31
loolbfiller: approved yours; withdrawing mine15:31
loolbfiller: (haha just noticed you just had the next merge id  ;-)15:31
dholbachdpm, ^ who can land stuff in lp:music-app?15:32
dholbachor mhall119 ^15:32
bfillerlool: thanks, I'll add it to landing asks15:32
bfillerasac: can we get music-app landed after this MR goes through?15:32
dholbachdanielholm, are you around?15:32
dpmdholbach, mhall119 or I can also do it. What needs landing?15:32
dholbachdpm, https://code.launchpad.net/~bfiller/music-app/fix-1227677/+merge/18656915:32
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cwaynejodh: ping15:34
mfischjodh: cwayne is seeing an odd error when trying to join an upstart session15:34
blarocheogra, Ant59: i used the google contacts import last night with out problems15:34
cwaynemfisch: jodh after i set UPSTART_SESSION, if i do an initctl list it seems ok, but an initctl list-env says "Unknown job: android-tools-adbd"15:35
blarochebut, i'm also still on the touch based images..15:35
ograblaroche, ah, cool, can you explain to Ant59 how to do it then ?15:35
dpmdholbach, bfiller, music app MP for file urls approved15:35
blarochesure15:35
ahayzenbfiller, lool, hey i work on the Music App ... just seen your patch, you say it is 'short term'. So it is best for us to detect if file:// is at the start and then strip it out as required?15:37
Ant59Thanks blaroche15:37
Ant59I can't seem to find a way that works15:37
blarocheadb shell into your device, then su - phablet15:37
loolahayzen: hey!15:37
blarochesyncevolution --configure --sync-property "username=********" --sync-property "password=*******" Google_Contacts15:37
ahayzenlool, o/15:38
blarochereplace your info in ****15:38
loolahayzen: well, I dont know whether the user experience would eventually involve playback of http:// links15:38
blarocheafter run, syncevolution --sync refresh-from-server Google_Contacts addressbook15:38
ahayzenlool, yeah thats wht i was just thinking15:38
loolahayzen: it's probably futuristic, I'm not sure the app is designed for that yet (even if that should be decently doable from QML I guess)15:38
ahayzenlool, guess it should be intelligent and know wht to do with file:// and http://15:38
loolahayzen: but it's high priority for us to land this because right now file:// doens't work and that breaks opening music files form dash15:39
ahayzenlool, i guess we would want to be able to play tracks from U115:39
loolahayzen: there are other bugs outside of music-app blocking that too, but we're working on them  :-)15:39
loolahayzen: we dont know what URL we will use for U1 though15:39
loolahayzen: so I suspect it will take some time to figure out, and probably out of scope for 13.1015:39
ahayzenlool, yeah, that is more a v2.0 i think15:39
loolahayzen: ack15:40
blarocheAnt59: here was the orignal blog post on it: http://sergiusens.github.io/posts/google-contacts-on-ubuntu-touch.html15:40
loolahayzen: note that there's an automatic snapshot of apps into the coreapps PPA when they get top approved (merge proposal status at the top), but we'd rather coordinate the landing if that's ok with you15:40
Ant59Cheers. That's what I tried earlier and it failed.15:41
loolahayzen: in which case, what would be awesome is if you could confirm the mp diff is ok with you, comment with an approval (the drop down below the comment), and then we would happrove (top approve) it when landing15:41
ahayzenlool, what do u mean?15:41
Ant59I guess I'll carry on trying to find out what I did wrong :L15:41
blarocheit creates a log file under ~/.cache  you might be able to better find out why it failed15:42
ahayzenlool, it should be ok...and dpm approved it :) danielholm is the one who has been working on this area15:42
Ant59Okay15:44
cwayneogra: random question, any idea why after joining the upstart session, running initctl list-env gives me Unknown job: android-tools-adbd15:44
asacbfiller: not instantanuously, it would auto happen tomorrow15:44
ogracwayne, because thats a system job15:44
bfillerasac: ok, added it to the sheet15:44
loolahayzen: cool, thanks15:45
dpmlool, is there anything we should be doing differently to coordinate landings? For core apps, we've been using top approvals up until now to get Jenkins to do the landing for us15:45
cwayneogra: but im not trying to do anything with that job.. im just trying to list-env15:45
cwaynewhy is it even looking for it?15:45
ogracwayne, it is in roots env15:45
ograit shouldnt15:45
cwaynebut im running this as phablet15:45
ograsounds like a bug then15:45
looldpm: unfortunatley, this currently gets them straight into the PPA which is used for image builds; it's a shortcut I hadn't realized existed until this morning15:46
looldpm: I'm not sure whether you can through the pain of asking for landing asks and getting a slot, but that would be nice15:46
looldpm: we're trying to get a tight control of any bit that goes into the image so that we control what lands when, serializing the landings to be able to quickly revert them if that makes sense15:46
looldpm: CI/landing team is getting really good at it now  ;-)15:47
Saviqsergiusens, /data is no longer safe between flashes?15:49
Saviqsergiusens, what is?15:49
loolthostr_, tedg: So do you guys have a bug for the system-settings:// URL bug?  (doens't open battery settings, just settings app)15:49
ograSaviq, /home/phablet unless you flash with --no-backup15:50
thostr_lool: yes, I filed one15:50
loolthostr_: got it https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/122769015:50
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1227690 in ubuntu-system-settings "system-settings app doesn't handle page/setting request properly" [Undecided,New]15:50
dpmlool, would there be any other way to do this? I.e. for us to get the ability to top approve and get the packages landed somewhere else? E.g. the core apps PPA. It might be a bit difficult to coordinate this for core apps and community developers that are focused on development but not on the release process. I'm more than happy to ensure you can keep tight control on this, but I'd like to discuss a way that doesn't slow down the development of the core15:50
dpm apps15:50
Saviqogra, that's the only safe one?15:50
tedglool, yes, bug 122769015:50
tedgOh, you got it :-)15:51
looldpm: right; I guess we could have two PPAs or something15:51
dpmyeah, that's what I meant15:51
looldpm: not sure we have the bandwidth to do this before a couple of days though15:51
popeyogra: next time you flash your phone can you try and confirm bug 1227753 please (I would ask gema / davmor2 but they seem to have broken their phones via bug 1227691 :D )15:51
ograSaviq, there might be other persistent ones ... have a look at /etc/system-image/writable-paths but i cant tell you how size constrained they are15:51
Saviqogra, thanks15:51
looldpm: I completely agree that we should avoid blocking fixes from landing in bzr and a test PPA, completely with you on that15:51
dpmwe already have the core apps PPA15:51
ubot5bug 1227753 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "Welcome tour can get stuck "behind" apps on first run" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122775315:51
ubot5bug 1227691 in telephony-service (Ubuntu) "Call will be sent to voicemail if the user has an app in the foreground" [Critical,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122769115:51
ograpopey, will test once we have 5715:52
popeyta15:52
looldpm: so this would need either an upstream merger config change, or a image build change; we would also need to tell CI/landing team how to copy these15:52
dpmlool, let me know which one you think makes sense and I can perhaps help coordinate with the teams affected15:54
tedglool, Uhg, so the issue was that when I updated to get the new versions of everything I downgraded my url-dispatcher from trunk so it sent the URLs wrong.  Now %f works for me.15:56
* tedg was a little startled by music starting :-)15:56
loolasac: could we pull dpm in tomorrow's landing standup to discuss this?15:57
sergiusensSaviq, ogra if you flash, that ($HOME), ofono, clicks and network manager are what is saved15:58
looltedg: outside of patching the /usr .desktop file for music-app, what do I have to do to fix it locally so that it opens a file?15:58
ograsergiusens, ah right, so home is the best bet still15:58
tedglool, Makes sure you have URL dispatcher trunk, specifically at least r24 or newer15:59
looltedg: wow it worked15:59
tedglool, It made you jump didn't it!  :-)15:59
looltedg: I dont know how, but I reverted to %u in the .desktop file, probably updated music-app from PPA or was r/o and didn't see the error15:59
looltedg: it works now wit h%f15:59
looltedg: so that's cool, it means we can land this today15:59
asaclool: we can have a second slot as well with him15:59
thostr_lool:  did the browser/link activation really work for you?16:00
loolasac: would you mind adding him there?16:00
Saviqsergiusens, thanks16:00
looldpm: we have an end of UTC+2 morning sync (10:30 or so your time)16:00
ograa second slot ? we didnt even have a first one yet :P16:00
looldpm: would be ideal to discuss options with the team16:00
loolwe're also overrunning the first one  :-)16:00
loologra: I think this is a meeting slot?16:00
ograah not image build slot16:01
asaclool: what?16:01
dpmlool, happy to join if you guys can send me an invite16:01
loolasac: 17:57 < lool> asac: could we pull dpm in tomorrow's landing standup to discuss this?16:02
loolasac: to discuss switching to two PPAs instead of one for core apps16:02
loolasac: so that they can keep landing stuff in bzr and a PPA, but it doesn't go straight to the image16:02
elopiodoanac, mterry: base class is ready to land. Let me know how can I lock the device, and I'll add the unlock command.16:04
mterryelopio, oh right, I got distracted yesterday16:05
mhr3_lool, ping?16:05
asaclool: invited him16:07
mptWhat's the name of the Launchpad project for the browser?16:07
mptI can't find it in Google and it doesn't seem to be part of https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone-coreapps/16:09
cjwatsonwebbrowser-app I believe16:09
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cwayneogra: its looking for android-tools-adbd cus $UPSTART_JOB is set to android-tools-adbd16:10
loolmhr3_: pong16:12
loolasac: thanks16:12
katiemzanetti, i just restarted my phone and your app seems to open fine now...16:12
katiei'll let you know if it happens again! :)16:12
mzanettikatie: ah ok... might be some issue in unity then16:12
katiemzanetti, probably! :)16:14
mzanettikatie: let me know how you like it. or how I can improve it design-wise :)16:14
mfischpete-woods: if we want to start some infographic stuff in an upstart job, what event should it start on?16:16
cwaynemfisch: i'd probably guess unity8 started16:16
mfischprobably a good guess to try16:17
mptThanks cjwatson16:20
mfischfor the record cwayne start on started unity8 works great16:23
cwaynemfisch: geat16:28
cwaynegreat*16:28
drachensunAlright, I'm pretty close on my port here16:33
drachensunnow unity and maliit are crashing16:33
drachensunthe upstart log shows killed by SEGV signal16:33
drachensunover and over16:33
DaNieLociao a tutti, qualcuno italiano?16:33
drachensunand /home/phablet/.cache/upstart/maliit is showing __pthread_gettid -216:34
drachensunas is unity16:34
drachensunhow can I figure out whats causing them to crash?16:35
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oSoMoNom26er: I’ve been getting a bunch of 404s on autolanding jobs like this one https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/generic-mediumtests-saucy/3651/console , can someone from the CI team comment?16:36
om26erfginther, ^16:37
om26erIRC works but websites won't open for me, hmm16:37
* om26er reconnects16:38
cyphermoxdavmor2: packages ready, same place16:41
davmor2cyphermox: I'll get on it as soon as I finish the bit I'm doing ta16:42
om26erfginther, hey16:42
om26erfginther, does that error look new ?16:42
om26erre: https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/generic-mediumtests-saucy/3651/console16:42
fgintherom26er, yes, it was a a result of adding the new autopilot testrunner job16:43
om26erfginther, should be fine now ?16:43
fgintherom26er, It should be fixed, but a lot of jobs crapped out on it16:43
om26erugh :/16:43
mhr3_lool, eh, sorry... so we have another issue, we need zeitgeist on the device16:43
fgintherom26er, I'm trying to rerun the jobs16:43
mhr3_lool, and the zeitgeist-core pkg includes two binaries, one of which we do not want to run on the phone (but do on the desktop)16:44
mhr3_lool, now that second binary can be disabled by passing an envvar to zeitgeist, but that's not simple as zg spawning relies on dbus activation16:45
mhr3_lool, thoughts how to tackle that?16:45
ogracould you split it into a separate package ?16:47
mhr3_ogra, we could, but i was told that might not be what we want to do at this point, too many people freaking out over changes in pkgs16:48
mhr3_lool included? :)16:48
ograwell, to me (from a pragmatic phone dev point) we wouldnt want the desktop binary installed to not wate the space :)16:49
ogra*waste16:49
AskUbuntuchecksum validation error | http://askubuntu.com/q/34758116:49
mhr3_ogra, it surely is a cleaner solution16:49
ograbut yeah, i can imagine that others might not want to have to maintain a package split for that16:49
ograespecially that late in the cycle16:50
anders3408ogra: damn i need help :) you know none of the hw buttons is working in ubuntu for me, and also the phone has a none removeable battery, then i did by a mistake run adb shell killall5 , and then adb is also killed so i cant adb into it for rebooting :)16:51
anders3408that means, black screen with backlight on and no way to reboot it :)16:52
ograyou cant hold the powerbutton for an eternity to make it reboot ?16:52
ograthat usually works on phones with no removable battery16:52
anders3408ill hope so :) normally i can hold vol down and pwr and it reboots to recovery and vol up it reboots to bootloader16:52
anders3408ogra:  worked :D16:53
davmor2cyphermox: I haz 3g, I will now reboot a few times and ensure I still haz 3g16:53
ograright, there is nothing in ubuntu that would prevent you from this16:53
ogra:)16:53
drachensunWhen I was building for my port hybris had some build error with the camera16:53
ograanders3408, volume buttons dont work for nexus either atm16:53
drachensunso I replaced the libhybris it was pulling with the latest from github.com/libhybris/libhybris16:53
ograno idea about the power button, usually powerd should detect itg and do its duty16:53
anders3408uhm... this gives me the oppotunito to find out what is happening if i reboots, why it fails to mount in android container :)16:53
drachensunis that a good idea? or should I not do that?16:54
anders3408ogra: it sadly doesnt do that :(16:54
davmor2anders3408: are you running with mir enabled?16:54
drachensunI thought all the libhybris patches would be going upstream so it wouldn't be a problem16:54
anders3408davmor2: mir ?16:54
ograanders3408, right, i dont know why ... sforshee might be able to help you with that16:54
anders3408davmor2: im kinda new to ubuntu touch :)16:54
ogradavmor2, he just ported to the oppo 516:55
ograi strongly suspect Mir wouldnt run :)16:55
anders3408oh that would be very nice if sforshee or  davmor2 ? can help with that :D16:55
davmor2anders3408, ogra: with mir the power button does nothing currently as there was no powerd config for mir (that might of changed)  but that is why I was asking16:56
anders3408where is mir enabled if it is ?16:56
ogranot sure it landed already, i know that ricmm works on a fix16:56
anders3408davmor2:  :)16:56
ograanders3408, there would be /home/phablet/.display-mir16:57
davmor2anders3408: I'm with ogra in assuming it isn't16:57
ograit definitely isnt by default16:57
ograso if you didnt put that file there you use surfaceflinger16:57
anders3408it is not enabled :)16:57
anders3408.display-mir doesnt exsist :)16:57
ograright16:57
davmor2cyphermox: 2 out of 216:58
ograi think your kernel simply doesnt expose the button in a way powerd expects16:58
ograot powerd doesnt run ... that would be the other option16:58
anders3408davmor2: perhaps you have an idea on this one : if i flash the compiled and then the prebuilted then a zip with .rules and .conf in, and boots up, it does that successfully , but 2nd time i boot up, like if i reboot, the lxc container fails to mount (i think) , as syslogs says : init: cannot find '/system/bin/sh', disabling 'qcom-usb-sh'17:00
anders3408 and android-chroot says : chroot: failed to run command 'sh': No such file or directory and the sh should be found from /system/bin/sh17:00
anders3408but that does work on 1st reboot17:00
davmor2cyphermox: 2 out of 317:00
anders3408also system is mounted17:00
davmor2anders3408: no idea ogra and sforshee might be able to help you more there17:01
ograanders3408, your container should have an fstb which gets processed on boot17:01
anders3408davmor2:  when is sforshee usually on ?17:01
ograthat should take care for mounting /system17:01
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davmor2cyphermox: 2 out of 4 meh looks like once it breaks it hates you17:03
anders3408ogra: it also does that fine and from the linux chroot i can see /system/bin and all files, but if i enter android-chroot it fails and says it cant find sh, looked at android-chroot config file, and it does use /system/bin/sh...17:03
anders3408perhaps it a permission issue ogra ?17:03
davmor2cyphermox: I'm going to leave it a few minutes this time17:03
ogradid you check the lxc log ?17:03
anders3408lxc-android says success.. just checking the rest17:04
anders3408and /var/log/lxc/android.log says the same thing as it did on first bootup : No such file or directory - stat(/proc/412/root/dev/lxc/tty2)17:05
anders3408 just with another {pid}17:05
ogradholbach, argh ... is there an entry for your seed change on the landing spreadsheet ?17:05
dholbachdpm, ^17:05
mruegare there any developments for ubuntu touch with cm 10.2?17:06
anders3408mrueg: m7 iirc17:06
anders3408unofficial17:07
loolmhr3_: can we break the -core package in two?17:07
davmor2cyphermox: so that was a good 5 minutes still no joy I'll grab the syslog after tea biab17:07
dpmogra, dholbach, no entry for the seed change, I hadn't seen the e-mail on the ubuntu-phone ML yet17:07
ogradholbach, for each change the respective autopilot tests have to be run on a device with that change in place before merging now17:07
mrueganders3408: thx, i try to make nfc useable and could need a more recent kernel i think17:07
loolmhr3_: or add a binary in front of the dbus activated service that read some /etc file telling it whether it's enabled or not?17:07
ogradholbach, if that didnt happen i fear i have to revert it17:07
dholbachogra, understood - dpm: who would we talk to about the autopilot changes17:08
dholbach?17:08
dpmdholbach, I think the best person would be fginther17:09
dpmhe and balloons are our contacts for core apps when it comes to Jenkins and autopilot17:09
mhr3_lool, sounds like the /etc solution would anyway require a new pkg?17:09
cyphermoxdavmor2: indeed I didn't make any changes that would affect the behavior17:09
cyphermoxdavmor2: that was really just to add some logging so I get to figure out if it's really what I think it is17:09
loolmhr3_: we could add it at image generation time17:11
loolmhr3_: like /etc/default/zeitgeist-core with FOO_ENABLED=yes or no17:11
loolmhr3_: I dont quite get why we're dbus activating it if we're not using it though17:11
dholbachogra, am I the first on your blacklist now?17:11
loolmhr3_: can't we just stop callers?17:11
ogradholbach, lol, nope :)17:12
* ogra hugs dholbach 17:12
mhr3_lool, the daemon itself uses it17:12
dholbachogra, *phew* ;-)17:12
mhr3_lool, still it means a change to the pkg, so i think it'll be cleaner to do a proper split17:12
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mhr3_lool, will didrocks freak out over the split? :)17:14
fgintherdholbach, what's the context?17:17
dholbachfginther, ogra said he would need to reject the seed change of https://code.launchpad.net/~dpm/ubuntu-seeds/add-qtgrilo-plugin/+merge/186308 if the autopilot are not run and I wasn't quite sure about the mechanics and the general process - dpm pointed into your direction, he requested the seed change17:18
dholbachdpm, according to https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu-touch.saucy the commit was reverted17:19
fginther dholbach, so you just need to make sure the music-app autopilot tests are run on each merge proposal?17:19
cjwatsondholbach: short version: all touch changes landing in the archive until 13.10 need specific approval17:19
dholbachcjwatson, ok, understood17:19
asacdpm: dholbach: what changes were landed in seed?17:20
asacdpm: dholbach: in futgure, please use #ubuntu-ci-eng to coordinate your landings. thanks17:20
cjwatsondholbach: this message has been trickling down through the engineering teams but it may not have made it to you17:20
dholbachdpm, can you have the conversation with fginther? I don't know much about the music-app or qtgrilo17:20
asacdpm: dholbach: in particular get your changes into the spreadsheet before: https://docs.google.com/a/canonical.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0Au6idq7TkpUUdGNWb0tTVmJLVzFZd0doV3dVOGpWemc#gid=017:20
dpmdholbach, sure17:21
anders3408davmor2:  you know something about this :17:21
anders3408upstart-local-bridge: Failed to bind socket unix:/dev/socket/upstart-text-bridge No such file or directory17:21
anders3408upstart-local-bridge: Failed to create socket unix:/dev/socket/upstart-text-bridge17:21
dholbachasac, it was reverted already17:21
dpmasac, ok will do17:21
asacdholbach: dpm: well, its not reverted technically yet17:21
asacwould like to know what it is17:21
dholbachin the branch17:21
asacwe could call it a lucky shot by checking if a) its wanted17:21
dholbachasac, https://code.launchpad.net/~dpm/ubuntu-seeds/add-qtgrilo-plugin/+merge/18630817:21
asacand b) doesnt break any tests17:21
ograit pulls some other accountmanager plugin in17:22
dpmasac, the MP proposal contains the detailed info in the description. In summary: it's needed for the Music app to use mediascanner. It provides the QML bindings to grilo, which is the backend mediascanner uses17:22
asacok... i think we should install and run unity8 as well as camera/gallery and potentially another two or so autopilots17:22
asacdpm: right. do you have a phone?17:23
ograaccount-plugin-ubuntuone17:23
loolmhr3_: no, it's fine; we just need to make sure the rdeps are updated to pull the two packages on the desktop17:23
loolmhr3_: you need a FFE though17:23
asacdpm: we can avoid the backout if you do what i said above and give us a confirm that all is still passing17:23
dpmasac, I do have a phone, yes17:23
asacdpm: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Testing17:23
mhr3_lool, can the second pkg be recommended by the first?17:24
asaccheck "Testing berfore submission"17:24
mhr3_lool, and sure i'll open FFE bug once i have the split17:24
dpmok17:24
asacdpm: but lets galk in the other channel #ubuntu-ci-eng17:24
viodoehello17:24
dpmasac, I need to go now. I'll do the testing tomorrow morning and coordinate with you guys17:24
asacdpm: then we back it out17:25
asacthanks17:25
loolmhr3_: Hmm I'd rather not rely on recommends, unless it's in the default config17:25
asacunless i can bribe someone for you17:25
dpmasac, fine for now, I'll follow the procedure next time17:25
loolmhr3_: I guess that could work, but it's not too pretty; depends if it's just temporary or not17:25
asacdpm: well it delays the image for two hours and we cant end our day17:25
loolthat is, if we're going to eventually run the other daemon17:26
asacdpm: would be nicer if you woudl stay17:26
asacj.k.17:26
asachave fun17:26
loolmhr3_: sorry, understand too little of the rdeps and the two daemons to comment17:26
* lool returns to dinner17:26
* dpm kicks asac and goes to appointment :P17:27
dpmsee you all tomorrow, cheers17:27
mhr3_lool, i'll talk to didier about it tomorrow17:27
mhr3_thanks17:27
loolmhr3_: he might be on leave, not sure17:28
mhr3_oh well, guess it can wait till monday17:29
anders3408so bootup it does sees it .... ugh :: input: pmic8xxx_pwrkey as /devices/platform/msm_ssbi.0/pm8921-core/pm8xxx-pwrkey/input/input017:37
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ograanders3408, create a udev rule and link it into /dev/input/ ... might help, not sure17:46
anders3408ogra: lemme check , i think i have that one17:47
anders3408ogra: in /data/ubuntu/lib/udev/rules.d/70-find5.rules i have ACTION=="add", KERNEL=="input/*", OWNER="root", GROUP="input", MODE="0660"17:49
ograaha17:50
ograyou most likely want android_input there as groupname17:50
anders3408and it is pasted over to lib/udev/rules.d17:50
anders3408ogra:  ahhh yes :D its wrong , in 65-android.rules its named android_input :D17:52
anders3408will change it and reflash everything :D17:52
anders3408ogra: is there anything that should be changed regarding sdcard ? find 5 has an virtual sdcard thing17:55
davmor2cyphermox: so you just want syslog or some other?17:55
davmor2cyphermox: syslog http://paste.ubuntu.com/6129283/17:57
anders3408should i use phablet-dev-bootstrap -c sourcefolder instead of repo sync when i want to update sources ?17:58
anders3408or is it very rare those are updated ?17:58
plarsdavmor2, cyphermox: I'm having this thing where I see rmnet_usb0 come up after a fresh install/network-setup and it gets the default route... ogra said you guys were seeing this too?18:02
plarsis there a bug# on it?18:02
anders3408oh ogra  normally i should see some lines in syslog when it launches those udev rules ?18:02
ogranot realy, no18:02
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davmor2plars: let me dig out my last one18:03
anders3408how should i then be able to see if those udev rules has been set  ogra ?18:03
davmor2plars: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/network-manager/+bug/122607118:03
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1226071 in network-manager (Ubuntu) "Maguro: NM indicator says I have 3g, browser says can't find homepage" [High,Triaged]18:03
ograby seeing that the desired devices apprear ?18:04
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anders3408it does appear in /dev/input/*  ?18:04
ograi think udevadm has a test that producces some output for rules processing18:04
plarsdavmor2: ok, I'm more concerned with why 3g is getting the preference here... I know why I can't get a connection: https://bugs.launchpad.net/touch-preview-images/+bug/122196918:05
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1221969 in ofono (Ubuntu) "3g data not working with Straightalk (MVNO) SIM" [Undecided,Confirmed]18:05
plarsdavmor2: is yours a mvno sim also?18:05
davmor2plars: no I'm in the uk, it's my galaxy s3's tmobile sim18:06
anders3408ogra:  yes udevadm info /dev/input/event0 :)18:06
jdstrandbfiller, tvoss: fyi, filed bug #1227821 and bug #1227824 for trust-store integration for contacts and calendar (and subscribed you)18:06
ubot5bug 1227821 in apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu (Ubuntu T-series) "please integrate with trust-store" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122782118:06
ubot5bug 1227824 in apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu (Ubuntu T-series) "please integrate with trust-store" [Undecided,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122782418:06
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bfillerjdstrand: thanks18:06
jdstrandbfiller: also filed bug #1227295 for that telepathy access18:07
ubot5bug 1227295 in glib2.0 (Ubuntu Saucy) "incorrect object path 'deskop' used in gio/gdbusobjectmanagerclient.c" [High,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122729518:07
anders3408and guess what ogra : unable to open device '/sys/dev/input/event0'18:07
jdstrandwhoops18:07
ograaha18:07
jdstrandbfiller: wrong bug18:07
davmor2plars: turns out there are still some issues hence the new packages that cyphermox just built to try and add an extra layer of debugging in18:07
ograso fix that :)18:07
jdstrandbfiller: bug #122781818:07
ubot5bug 1227818 in apparmor-easyprof-ubuntu (Ubuntu Saucy) "client apps using qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-contacts0.1 accesses the /org/freedesktop/Telepathy DBus API" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122781818:07
tvossjdstrand, thx18:07
bfillerjdrab: thanks18:07
jdstrandthere's an address-book-app task too18:08
jdstrandnp18:08
anders3408just as expected , ogra, udev monitor doesnt see the pwrkey press18:08
mhall119so I installed version 56, and now I have no datetime indicator18:14
mhall119and *still* no message menu indicator18:14
tedgbfiller, So I'm adding support for applications who put desktop files in /usr/share/applications to have single instance support (like click packages).  But it requires a key in the desktop file.  Which apps do you expect to stay there and not become clicks?18:15
bfillertedg: webbrowser-app for sure for 13.1018:16
bfillertedg: for the others I need to understand from sergiusens what the status is with converting to click18:17
bfillersergiusens: any update on this?18:17
tedgK18:17
sergiusensbfiller, hmm, I would of thought you got the management memo18:17
rickspencer3bfiller, tedg I thought we deffered moving any more apps to click until after 13.10, but I could be worng18:17
* bfiller guesses he didn't get the memo18:17
sergiusensbfiller, deferred due to changes in testing infra18:17
* tedg doesn't get memos18:17
rickspencer3oops, I didn't know a memo was needed18:18
bfillertedg: so I guess all of them need the single instance support :)18:18
mhall119oh, setting the background to a picture from the galler works!18:18
tedgrickspencer3, TPS report next time, in triplicate :-)18:18
rickspencer3sergiusens, we also decided something about adb at that call, right?18:18
tedgbfiller, Heh, cool.  Will do.18:18
sergiusensrickspencer3, yeah, only to deliver disabled18:18
bfillersergiusens: are any apps convertered to click yet?18:18
sergiusensbfiller, of yours, I have code for camera changes (that allow deb + click), all others need to follow suit18:19
sergiusensbfiller, do you want me to get that in for you to use?18:20
sergiusensbfiller, or the browser perhaps?18:20
bfillersergiusens: no, sounds like if we are deffering it then lets just leave them all as debs18:20
bfillerwas just curious if any had landed yet18:20
sergiusensbfiller, no, the prereq is to first land our autopilot changes to launch with upstart into the test harness and then use the click test mechanics to not pull the debs18:21
tedgHmm, there are quite  few apps here...18:22
* tedg should pay attention before he says he'll do something real quick18:22
sergiusenstedg, stock ticker, sudoku and dropping letters are click on the image18:23
tedgSo everything in here that is "-app" in the name?  https://launchpad.net/ubuntu-touch-preview18:24
sergiusenstedg, those are debs18:24
tedgsergiusens, Correct, I need the debs18:24
tedgsergiusens, The clicks get it for free18:24
davmor2cyphermox: was the extra debugging useful?18:26
cyphermoxdavmor2: yes, very18:31
davmor2yay18:31
cyphermoxawe_: I'm going to need your insight on that one18:32
cyphermoxawe: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6129283/  any idea why ContextManager would get dropped from the values?18:32
cyphermoxfor Interfaces.18:32
drachensunI tried to install mir and I got this error Device driver support needs thus be built-in linux image!18:33
drachensunits saying there is nothing in /boot/config-touch18:33
drachensunwhat is supposed to be there?18:34
awe_cyphermox, one sec... mid conversation with om26er18:34
drachensunnothing in *slash* boot *slash* config-touch18:34
drachensunok so with mir, I'm getting a similar error18:42
drachensun__pthread_gettid -218:42
tedgbfiller, Okay, I think I got them all.  Ping me if I missed one.18:43
bfillertedg: will do, thanks18:44
bfillerI will review18:44
rickspencer3cyphermox, hey is your 3g fix landing today(ish)?18:46
cyphermoxrickspencer3: hopefully yes, but there's one issue with oFono interfaces I'm trying to understand18:47
rickspencer3cyphermox, good luck!18:47
cyphermoxrickspencer3: I now know exactly why the connection fails, just don't know why that happens18:47
cyphermoxsome interface I watch for dbus property changes just disappears for some reason18:48
rickspencer3cyphermox, turtles on turtles all the way down18:48
rickspencer3:)18:48
cyphermoxheh18:48
awe_cyphermox, are you monitoring the 'Attached' state of the modem?  If the device becomes UnAttached, my guess is that ofono may drop the ContextManager interface18:50
awe_cyphermox, I can check this out for you...18:50
awe_is this during setup-data-call that it disappears?18:50
awe_also, do you have a reproducible test case I can try?18:51
awe_cyphermox, you should be able to test this out easily using the ofono scripts18:51
awe_just toggle the same switch that NM uses for "enable mobile data" and see if that brings down the ContextManager interface.  I bet it does...18:52
davmor2awe_: it's my bug, muhahahahaha!  so just flash the phone with daily-proposed and --no-backup and no 3g on maguro18:52
awe_davmor2, we're working on it...  patience please18:53
awe_;D18:53
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davmor2awe_: :)18:55
ogramterry, you rock !18:55
mterryogra, :)19:01
tiagoscdHey folks, I am getting "Read-only file system" when trying to update/upgrade system19:02
tiagoscdDo you know if I need to do some specific change to turn filesystem writable?19:03
greybacktiagoscd: this should help you: https://www.stgraber.org/2013/09/05/ubuntu-touch-system-images-now-default/19:06
tiagoscdthanks greyback19:07
ogranote that this will break after some time19:07
anders3408ogra:  so far so good . now when i press pwrkey  and have Terminal app open it prints a ? :919:07
ograawesome19:07
ograso you have input19:07
ograi guess for the last mile you will actually need sforshee19:08
anders3408yes but why a ? :D19:08
anders3408ahh  :)19:08
ograheh, no idea19:08
anders3408when is he usually on ?19:08
ograUS timezone ... might be at plumbers this week though19:08
ograi know many people are19:08
cyphermoxawe_: it's not dropping the attached state... otherwise I'd also see a message from NM setting the modem as disabled.19:09
cwaynealecu: ping19:10
anders3408ogra:  uhm... it must be me that are missing something, as the pwrkey is the same as mako19:11
anders3408pmic8xxx_pwrkey.kl19:11
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awe_cyphermox, did you see my comment above?  Do you have a reproducible scenario that I can try?19:14
cyphermoxnah :(19:14
cyphermoxdavmor2 has that issue19:14
cyphermoxI haven't been able to reproduce yet19:14
awe_log files that I can check out?19:15
awe_davmor2, ^^19:15
awe_cyphermox, however I can help... please let me know19:15
davmor2awe_: those were19:15
cyphermoxsure19:15
cyphermoxI'll just keep digging, there has to be a simple reason19:15
awe_I have and 2:45, and then I have to go meet w/a state senator to talk about trains19:16
awe_;D19:16
davmor2awe_: what other logs did you want?19:16
ograoh !19:16
ograwho chopped the ChickenCutlass19:16
awe_davmor2, cyphermox is looking at your problem, and I was asking how I could help.19:16
awe_davmor2, so far he can't reproduce your scenario19:16
ChickenCutlassogra, I am here19:16
ograah19:16
ograthen that was an imposter :)19:16
awe_I was asking him if he could and/or if he had logs for me to inspect...19:17
ChickenCutlassogra, no I am just setting up a bip server19:17
ograah19:17
cyphermoxawe_: sometimes I do get it but haven't recently enough to see if ofono has anything to say about it19:17
ChickenCutlassogra, any luck with qtubuntu and others?19:17
davmor2awe_: yeah he gave you a paste ubuntu link with them in :)19:17
davmor2awe_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6129283/19:17
ograChickenCutlass, see -ci-eng19:17
ograChickenCutlass, still wrangling ...19:18
ChickenCutlasswow19:18
ChickenCutlassok19:18
awe_HMMMMM....19:18
awe_davmor2, what kind of phone are you running touch on?19:18
davmor2awe_: Maguro19:19
awe_there's all kinds of "can't connect to RILD:  Connection refused (111) " messages in your syslog19:19
awe_what image, and have you modified it/updated it/customized it?19:19
racarrUnpacking replacement lxc-android-config ...19:20
racarrdpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/lxc-android-config_0.99_all.deb (--install): unable to make backup link of `./lib/udev/rules.d/70-android.rules' before installing new version: Invalid cross-device link19:20
racarrErrors were encountered while processing: /var/cache/apt/archives/lxc-android-config_0.99_all.deb19:20
racarrany ideas?19:20
davmor2awe_: this mornings let me check the number19:20
ograracarr, re-flash, apt only works marginally on readonly images, even if you make them writable19:20
racarrogra: Ah...ok. Thanks!19:22
awe_davmor2, could you delete your syslog from /var/log, and then power the phone down.  Let it sit for a few minutes, then boot it.19:23
davmor2awe_: Yeap give me 519:23
awe_your syslog is a) very large19:23
awe_b) has many kernel/driver stack traces19:23
awe_c) has lots of temperature too high messages19:23
awe_in general, doesn't look like a very healthy system19:23
* awe_ wonders if anyone does syslog inspections these days...19:24
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bryanageeThis channel makes me hungry for sushi. Thanks Google, with your stupid codenames... =)19:31
davmor2awe_, cyphermox : new syslog http://paste.ubuntu.com/6129653/19:33
alecucwayne: pong19:33
awe_cyphermox, one other thing to consider is ofonod crashing.  That would make the interface go away for sure19:33
awe_davmor2, thank you sir19:34
davmor2awe_: pleasure19:34
awe_davmor2, looks like pulseaudio is continually crashing on your device19:34
* davmor2 shakes his fist at lenart 19:35
awe_now now, lennart doesn't maintain PA anymore.  More likely fist shaking should be aimed at SoC guys19:37
awe_and the poor manner they play with ALSA19:37
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drachensunI installed mir with the dist upgrade19:39
* popey returns19:39
drachensunis there a way to roll it back?19:39
popeyasac: / ogra do we have an image to test?19:39
ograpopey, nop19:39
davmor2awe_: I know but lenart seems to get blamed for everything nowadays, I didn't want him to feel left out :)19:39
popeyogra: kk19:39
davmor2awe_: so is pa causing the issue with the 3g modem or is that another issue all together?19:40
asacpopey: not before tomorrow :)19:40
awe_davmor2, sorry got distracted for a moment on another channel19:40
awe_let me get back to the log19:40
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awe_cyphermox, davmor2: here's the end of davmor2's latest pastebin19:46
awe_you see the ContextManager disappear, then a bunch of kernel messages19:46
awe_davmor2, did the machine freeze, or suspend?19:47
awe_is there anything else in the syslog now?19:47
awe_( ie. more ofonod messages or NM messages past 19:31:57? )19:47
davmor2one second19:47
awe_davmor2, does this happen every time your reboot?19:47
dakerdoes anyone know how i can fix this : "lint_control_architecture_valid_contents": "found binaries for architecture 'all': " ?19:48
davmor2awe_: Yeap I never have 3g on the whole after a flash or a reboot,  I always have to restart network-manager to get 3g19:48
awe_if ofonod is crashing, I was told we don't yet have working crash reports happening.  So the only way we can verify is to check for crash files, or visually inspect the PID of ofonod before/after to see if it's being re-spawned19:48
awe_davmor2, ok19:49
bfillertedg: where is the messaging menu? hasn't been showing up in the build for days now19:49
tedgbfiller, unity8 bug.  It's fixed, not sure on release status.19:50
bfillerok19:50
bfillerboiko: ^^^19:50
awe_also... did you see my question above about whether there's anything else in syslog past the timestamp I mentioned above?  Do you see what I'm talking about when you look at the pastebin?19:50
bfillerSaviq: any ideas on this?19:50
bfillerwhen unity8 fix for messaging menu will land19:50
Saviqbfiller, it's stuck in "asking"19:50
Saviqlike everything is19:50
bfillerlove it19:50
Saviqbug #122501719:50
davmor2awe_: this is everything after 19:31:57 http://paste.ubuntu.com/6129725/19:50
ubot5bug 1225017 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "Messaging indicator missing from indicator bar" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122501719:51
Saviqbfiller, merged Tuesday19:51
boikoWebbyIT: ^19:51
awe_davmor2, what happens if you run: tail -f /var/log/syslog19:52
awe_does it every output anything more?19:52
WebbyITboiko, uau, thanks19:52
awe_also could you check to see if ofonod is running?19:52
awe_davmor2, actually if ofonod crashed, we'd see all the init messages again19:52
awe_can you do anything else with the phone in this state?  ie. can you make a phone call?19:53
awe_davmor2, I know it's probably late for you now.  If you want, we can book some time in the morning to do a hangout with myself and cyphermox19:53
awe_and try to debug your problem live19:54
davmor2awe_: tail -f /var/log/syslog is just adding 1 extra line every minute or so that is already at the bottom of the last pastebin19:54
davmor2awe_: yeah that's great19:54
davmor2awe_: just ping with a time and place :)19:55
awe_davmor2, does 2 UTC work for you?19:55
awe_cyphermox, ^^19:55
cyphermoxawe_: I don't think ofono is crashing, like you said, we'd see a whole lot of messages, including some from NM that ofono is no longer on the bus19:55
loolalecu, ralsina: Arond?19:55
fortunecookiehow can i run "ubuntu for android"? no dowanload is on official ubuntu site19:55
awe_davmor2, can you make phone calls with the phone in this state?19:55
davmor2awe_: yeah that is fine19:55
awe_davmor2, ok19:55
davmor2awe_: yeap19:55
awe_I'll book it in gcal19:55
popeyfortunecookie: no, we haven't released UfA19:56
cyphermox2UTC tonight?19:56
fortunecookieoh19:56
awe_davmor2, oops19:56
awe_cyphermox, oops19:56
fortunecookiewoops19:56
awe_I meant 14:00 UTC tomorrow19:56
cyphermoxyou mean 14UTC?19:56
cyphermoxah19:56
awe_w00t19:56
davmor2:D19:56
cyphermoxyes, that works :)19:56
davmor2awe_: yeah that is what I figured you meant19:56
fortunecookieubuntu touch vs. firefox os, which is better?19:57
awe_davmor2, can you do one more thing?  After you get the phone in that state, can you add the output of the following command to the bug ( there is a bug, right? )?19:57
awe_/usr/share/ofono/scripts/list-modems19:57
popeyfortunecookie: you're asking in an ubuntu channel?19:57
davmor2awe_: will do :)19:57
awe_cyphermox, we need to fix the apport scripts for ofono so that all this stuff gets grabbed automatically19:58
aleculool: hi19:58
davmor2fortunecookie: after seeing how you have to answer a call on a FF phone Ubuntu19:58
davmor2right night all19:58
cyphermoxawe_: if you want to do this I would suggest fixing the ofono scripts to support unicode19:59
cyphermoxthey fail badly on my devices due to my provider having an é in the name19:59
awe_the test scripts?19:59
awe_dey be python19:59
cyphermoxright19:59
cyphermoxbut dey still crash :)19:59
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ralsinalool: yes, I think alecu is also20:00
awe_cyphermox, file a bug, I can look into fixing them.20:00
cyphermoxthere is some parsing that happens, I'll provide a bug20:00
* awe_ thinks sergiusens is a python wizard20:00
awe_cyphermox, thanks dude20:00
loolralsina, alecu: So trying to promote the scope from the unity-daily PPA into saucy20:01
loolralsina, alecu: But it didn't have just your change but another change which requires libunity20:01
ralsinalool: whoa20:01
loolralsina, alecu: Do you guys know about the impact of the libunity change, e.g. would it need other packages, would it break anything?20:01
ralsinalool: let me make sure alecu is getting this20:02
ralsinalool: because I don't know, myself20:02
loolalecu: https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-unity/+archive/daily-build/+packages?field.name_filter=libunity&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=saucy20:02
loolalecu: and https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-unity/+archive/daily-build/+packages?field.name_filter=unity-lens-applications&field.status_filter=published&field.series_filter=saucy20:03
loolalecu: see how there are other changes there?20:04
loolalecu: these were picked up from upstream bzr branch20:04
aleculool: I see20:04
loolalecu: do you know about these other changes?  what they depend on, whether they are safe etc.?20:05
loolalecu: and did you test the binaries?20:05
aleculool: sorry, I don't know about these other changes. It was my first branch against unity-lens-application.20:06
aleculool: I did test these changes with autopilot, though20:06
loolalecu: ok20:08
cwaynealecu: hey, i was wondering if you had an updated click pkg for qr-code that i could use to test something out?20:11
alecucwayne: I can upload a 0.3 with no changes, if you just need to test.20:18
alecucwayne: I made the qr-code app just to test click updates myself :P20:18
cwaynealecu: that'd be helpful :)  we're using it just to test preinstallation to /custom/click20:19
cwaynei suppose i could just pull the source bump the version and build it too20:20
alecucwayne: sure. Alternatively, I can send you the older versions I'm using: 0.0.1 and 0.120:20
alecucwayne: I usually install an older one on my device, and then try updating from the 0.2 in the store20:21
cwaynealecu: that makes sense, but we have 0.2 pre-installed and it's actually a bit of a PITA to make a new custom tarball with an older version, so i'll just bump it :)20:21
cwaynealecu: is the code in a branch somewhere?20:21
alecuno, let me push it now.20:22
alecucwayne: lp:~alecu/+junk/qr-code20:23
alecucwayne: should I upload 0.3 to the store as well?20:23
cwaynealecu: hm, that may actually be helpful20:24
loolalecu: do you see the preinstalled clicks after installing your scope?20:32
aleculool: I saw them yesterday. Should I check with today's image?20:33
aleculool: are you just installing the .debs from the archive urls you pasted above?20:34
loolalecu: that would be good20:34
loolalecu: from https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-lens-applications/7.1.0+13.10.20130919.3-0ubuntu2 actually20:34
loolarmhf build20:35
alecuack20:35
loolalecu: I'm flashing this too20:35
alecucwayne: I've uploaded 0.3 to the store, should be available as soon as it's reviewed.20:35
cwaynealecu: thanks!20:35
loolalecu: what's the autopilot testsuite you ran again?20:35
aleculool: unity820:36
aleculool: I ran it on the device, from adb shell20:37
loolalecu: ok20:38
aleculool: I'm running your package on my device, it seems to show every app installed and hides the duplicates20:45
loolalecu: including preinstalled ones?20:45
alecuI'm checking with /home/phablet/.local/share/applications20:45
loolalecu: like dropping letters20:45
aleculool: yes20:45
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loolalecu: check with the shell though20:45
alecuI've installed your package, and rebooted20:45
loolalecu: ok; that's good to hear, must have screwed my device20:45
loolalecu: BTW I see bugs like app icon doens't appear after install20:46
loolalecu: is this known?20:46
aleculool: yes: I'm checking in the dash, and comparing with the list of preinstalled apps in .local/share/applications20:46
aleculool: for which app?20:46
loolalecu: click list as phablet to list the click packgaes you have installed20:46
aleculool: there are some apps with broken icons in the store20:46
loolalecu: no, with icons20:47
loolalecu: I have to reboot to see them20:47
aleculool: ah, yes: that is known: pad.lv/121746120:48
loolright20:49
loolalecu: everything worked for me, modulo the reboots20:50
loolalecu: this is something I'd like us to test: install some clicks, reinstall image (keeping a backup), check if the clicks are still there with icons and working20:50
loolalecu: I suspect this is the issue I was seeing before i reflashed20:51
loolanyway20:51
loolalecu: not blocking this landing, just sharing20:51
alecurickspencer3: in the Franglish app, the Franglish.desktop file has "Icon=qmlscene", so the icon looks empty after installing. I think you should put the filename of a png there, like "Icon=franglish.png"20:51
popeyalecu:     "lint_vcs_files": "found VCS files in package: .bzr"20:52
popey(your package)20:52
alecupopey: thanks :-)20:52
rickspencer3alecu, yeah, Iv'e gotten this feedback20:52
popeynp20:52
rickspencer3alecu, as soon as click package updates are available in the image, I'll update it :)20:52
alecurickspencer3: I like that way of sending pressure my way :-)20:53
rickspencer3lol20:53
rickspencer3not meant as pressure20:53
rickspencer3alecu,  I thought there was an updater app that was already to go into the image?20:53
alecuyes, our team is working on that :-)20:54
ralsinarickspencer3, alecu: yes there is, status INARCHIVE20:54
rickspencer3niiiiice20:54
rickspencer3ralsina, ok, so I'll try it out tomorrow by updating franglish20:54
ralsinacool20:54
rickspencer3then when the infographic api is ready, I'll update it again :)20:54
rickspencer3ralsina, next image should be a big one for you?20:56
ralsinayeah20:56
rickspencer3sweet20:56
ralsinahopefully sweet ;-)20:57
rickspencer3ralsina, it will be sweet :)20:58
rickspencer3"Amazing"20:58
popeyhah20:59
ralsinarickspencer3: http://i.imgur.com/VcdAFNV.jpg21:01
ralsinaand in that note, school run!21:01
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alecuhmm.... I've updated my ubuntu-sdk and the .click that gets built still contains all of the .bzr folder.21:21
mterrycwayne, a unity8 version with the background change just hit saucy.  it'll be available for actual use soon21:29
cwaynemterry: <3 thank you for the update!21:29
cwayneis the actual ability to change it via an upstart job still waiting on the lightdm stuff?21:30
mterrycwayne, is the upstart running as root or the user?21:30
cwaynemterry: we were trying to do it as a user job21:31
mterrycwayne, yah that's blocked on lightdm.  We're getting closer to landing that though21:31
mterrycwayne, they are testing the branch again21:31
cwaynemterry: great news, thanks21:33
alecupopey: this is why my click had the .bzr folder: https://bugs.launchpad.net/qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu/+bug/122789621:35
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1227896 in qtcreator-plugin-ubuntu "Click packages must not include VCS files" [Undecided,New]21:35
asacjdstrand: so the apparomore thing you wanted to land21:35
asacjdstrand: is that the thing for click package autopilot support?21:36
jdstrandasac: no21:36
jdstrandasac: was there a question surrounding that? click-apparmor does what they need. I do have a todo to get back to them on a tigher apparmor rule than what they are using, but they shouldn't be blocked on me21:37
asacdoanac: ^^21:37
doanacthomi: does this mean we can land your click branch as-is right now?21:38
jdstrand(click-apparmor supports --include=PATH in 0.1.8-- uploaded that a couple weeks ago)21:38
jdstranddoanac, thomi: are the instructions in the email still valid?21:40
dakerQUESTION : does any have idea what this means "lint_control_architecture_valid_contents": "found binaries for architecture 'all' ?21:51
dakeranyone*21:52
asacthomi: hey ho ... do you think your part of click package autopilot testing story is done? or do we need to schedule a meeting at a time where you can attend :)?21:53
cjwatsonalecu: also bug 122364021:57
ubot5bug 1223640 in click (Ubuntu) "Version control meta directories should be filtered out" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122364021:58
* cjwatson leaves comments to link those two bugs; they aren't quite dups21:58
cjwatsondaker: I think that means you have architecture: "all" in your manifest (indicating architecture-independence) but your package contains compiled code and thus should be architecture: "armhf"22:00
davmor2awe maguro22:00
cjwatsondaker: (though this is going to change anyway - the use of architecture: is in advance of it actually being specced properly)22:00
dakercjwatson: i have armhf on the manifest http://paste.ubuntu.com/6130131/22:01
cjwatsondaker: oh, don't know then22:02
dakercjwatson: and popey wont approve the update if the package doesn't passes the script test22:02
cjwatsonrightly so22:02
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loolralsina, alecu: New -proposed image published22:18
loolralsina, alecu: only one version of the launchers (yeah!), had update manager app (yeah!), but it has no icon (booh!)  ;-)22:18
loolalecu, ralsina: https://bugs.launchpad.net/click-update-manager/+bug/122791022:21
ubot5Ubuntu bug 1227910 in click-update-manager (Ubuntu) "No icon" [Undecided,New]22:21
AskUbuntuhow users will to get ubuntu for phones? | http://askubuntu.com/q/34770522:29
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mfischbarry: you still online? I had a question on the update client23:20
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