[00:00] sergiusens: I don't think it landed in time https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity8/+bug/1225017 [00:00] Ubuntu bug 1225017 in unity8 (Ubuntu) "Messaging indicator missing from indicator bar" [Undecided,Fix committed] === voytek is now known as gerron === chriadam|away is now known as chriadam [00:34] anders3408: I know nothing about evdev [00:37] mhall119: i was missing alot of permission in find5.rules , perhaps thats it. did a new build just testing in a moment then im going to upload it if it is working ok. === gerron is now known as johnbell === johnbell is now known as voytek === voytek is now known as johnbell === anders3408 is now known as anders3408|afk [01:55] Ubuntu Mobile for new Droid MAXX | http://askubuntu.com/q/347315 === johnbell is now known as voytek === Namidairo`bnc is now known as Namidairo === moocow is now known as moocow1452 [06:58] ogra: do we have time to land some changes this morning? [06:58] specifically, I wanted to try landing new url-dispatcher, and qtpim was tested yesterday [06:59] good morning [07:00] ogra: moving this to -ci [07:27] well I have a little bit of progress [07:27] I see A N D R O I D on screen [07:28] adb works but only seems to see the android container [07:28] and my serial console is up [07:28] but I think media server crashing all the time is making it unresponsive [07:34] anyone know why I would be seeing a n d r o i d? [07:35] looks like surface flinger is crashing as well, I thought ubuntu touch used mir? [07:49] so I see, Android was fighting to control the console as well [07:49] now I have a good console, again just in the Android container [07:54] sergiusens, around? [07:54] popey: ping [07:54] gema: yo! [07:54] popey: have you managed to get the upgrade from the system settings working? [07:55] yes, multiple times [07:55] popey: ok, me too [07:55] have you not? [07:55] oh [07:55] popey: I have an email forwarded from you and jamie that says something about signature error [07:55] but I haven't been able to reproduce that [07:56] I'd be willing to bet that's dodgy wifi issue [07:56] or dodgy 3g [07:56] ok [07:56] popey: do upgrades download automatically for you? [07:56] or is that not implemented yet? [07:56] i have it set to, and yes, it works [07:56] ok, I am going to try that now [07:56] popey: thanks [07:56] np [08:01] today's image comes up with the wrong date to me :/ [08:01] gema: what command are you using? [08:02] popey: UI [08:02] que? [08:02] system settings, download and then install [08:02] right, what's wrong? [08:03] http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-19-090254.png is what I see [08:03] popey: I am trying to reproduce, I will take a picture [08:06] popey: nah, it worked this time [08:06] first time I upgraded it had 1970 as a date [08:06] ok I'm getting an apparmor 2.4 error [08:07] so there is a patch I should put on the kernel? Where can I find that? [08:07] gema: that happens because the time doesn't get saved when you wipe. [08:07] that happens a lot [08:07] drachensun: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SecurityTeam/AppArmorForPhabletKernels [08:09] thanks [08:10] is the apparmor issue probably what is keeping the display from loading? [08:10] popey: is your sim working on the latest image? [08:11] yup [08:11] ok [08:11] gema: you may need to restart network managaer [08:11] popey: no, I am testing, I need to raise a bug because it takes forever to show the signal [08:11] :) [08:11] drachensun: maybe. You can set the kernel parameter apparmor=0 and boot with that to check [08:12] that works on apparmor 2.4 and 3.0 [08:12] popey: I don't think it was nm, my wifi has been up from the beginning [08:13] gema: there's a known bug in nm which I was testing a fix for last night [08:13] popey: regarding telephony? [08:13] gema: it doesn't move from wifi to 3g seamlessly, but there's a fix done which should land soon [08:13] regarding 3g/wifi [08:13] popey: ok [08:13] popey: will wait for that to land then [08:13] jjohansen: Before I added "apparmor=1 security=apparmor" to my kernel I was getting "AppArmor not available as kernel LSM" and that seemed to be the only error. Is that what you would expect from apparmor=0? [08:14] well the only apparmor reported error [08:14] and the display was A N D R O I D then too [08:14] drachensun: ah yeah [08:15] jjohansen: So apparmor isn't required? the kernel patch looks like a lot of work, I would prefer to come back to if its not required to get the regular desktop up [08:16] drachensun: its not required to get ubuntu touch up, but is required for confinement and some apps to work [08:17] drachensun: ah that goes for the desktop too [08:18] if I was trying to bring something up, I would skip it until I had the system up and running [08:18] ok cool [08:18] yeah, I've got it booting [08:18] and now the Android container is up [08:18] and I can adb in [08:18] with 20130918, the clock vanished from the notification area, is it on purpose or already reported as a bug? [08:18] or use a serial console [08:18] but they all lead to the Android container [08:18] and the display is stuck on A N D R O I D [08:19] I see surfaceflinger try to run [08:19] but it seems to crash on and off [08:19] So if I understand right, I can try mir instead somehow right? [08:21] looks like I would need to break out of the android container to install it [08:23] jibel: comes back after a reboot [08:26] exit [08:26] popey, okay, filing a bug [08:27] hm and a system-image-dbus crash :/ [08:30] ok I waw missing the powervr kernel module, it hides away from the rest and I forgot to copy it [08:30] so now [08:31] I am getting the Android init logo [08:31] and it stops after that [08:31] but its the logo it used to show in Android before I started trying to add all this [08:34] ogra, did you see my msg about the ubuntu-settings branch? [08:34] yep, i put it on the spreadsheet for CI discussion [08:34] should land later today (i hope) [08:35] ogra, thanks [08:36] mardy: have any ideas about fixing https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-system-settings/+bug/1227111 ? [08:36] Ubuntu bug 1227111 in ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu) "Two system settings instances can be open at the same time" [Undecided,Confirmed] [08:37] It seems easy enough to do single instance but you also want to go to the new requested panel in the existing instance [08:38] om26er: hey, are you around? [08:38] Laney: nope, I think you have to talk to the shell people about this [08:38] oSoMoN, yeah, I came in early. [08:38] :) [08:38] Laney: I guess upstart will come into the picture [08:38] really? [08:38] oSoMoN, I saw the comment on the MR, I'll now look at the failing test now [08:38] I thought you'd do it in u-s-s [08:39] ogra: how do I set the time on the read-only images? [08:39] oSoMoN, or is that not needed anymore ? :) [08:39] Laney: they have plans to maintain a binding between processes and windows, and I guess that single-instance is also considered [08:39] hrm [08:40] Laney: well, for Online Accounts, I'm working on a D-Bus service to start it, which will take care of single/multiple instances as appropriate; but that's a rather complex case [08:40] Laney: I think that being single instance is a common requirement for many apps, so it's likely that the shell will provide some easy way to do it [08:41] Saviq: any plans about this? ^ [08:41] popey, heh, no idea ... i guess you need to wait until the settings land [08:41] ☹ [08:48] om26er: if you mean the calendar app, no need to investigate, I’ve found the issue and submitted a MR, if you could review it that would be great: https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/ubuntu-calendar-app/restrict-label-search-root/+merge/186483 [08:49] om26er: also, I wanted to ask about an issue in the lab, I’m seeing the following error on all CI and autolanding jobs (generic-mediumtests-runner-maguro) today: "error: device not found" [08:49] oSoMoN, wow that looks serious [08:50] I'll have a look [08:52] oSoMoN, approve it, I assume you have been stuck with that failure of a bit long [08:59] om26er: thanks === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter === vrruiz_ is now known as rvr [09:47] Laney: hi! Could you review this soonish? https://code.launchpad.net/~mardy/ubuntu-system-settings/wifi-panel/+merge/186492 [09:47] Laney: thostr_ tells me it should land today [09:48] mardy: ok, right after I get disk usage working [09:48] please invalidate the old mp [09:48] Laney: OK === _5m0k3 is now known as wellsb [10:02] sil2100, so was there anything more than qtdeclarative5-ubuntu-click0.1 to seed for you ? === gusch is now known as gusch|lunch [10:10] ogra: does this sound familiar? "ERROR:phablet-flash:local variable 'recovery_path' referenced before assignment" and then stays in the recovery screen - using phablet-flash ubuntu-system --channel=devel-proposed on maguro [10:12] how can I on Nexus 7 2013 (razor) ubuntu install. I have done many things but it is not [10:12] UbuntuFan: we dont officially support the new nexus 7 yet [10:12] someone needs to port it over [10:12] Is Ubuntu Touch the successor of https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Nexus7 ? [10:12] Kinda. Yes. [10:13] I don't think we maintain the desktop image for Nexus 7 anymore [10:13] Yeh, the download link does not work any more. [10:13] So I suspected it was dead. [10:15] ogra: shall we "do a jorge" and delete those pages? [10:16] or just put a big boilerplate at the top [10:18] popey: ogra: think we would want to release the 56 :)? === oreneeshy_ is now known as oreneeshy [10:18] thats a big step [10:19] can you sign off and get it out? [10:19] ogra: thostr_ cannot boot his device anymore [10:19] with ubuntu-system [10:20] thostr_: did the install go fine? [10:20] asac: yes [10:20] thostr_: what happens if you go in with adb? [10:20] only get busybox === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away [10:21] i flashed 55 a few times i think [10:21] ogra: popey: ^^ not sure what might have happened for him [10:21] thostr_: did you have latest phablet-flash? [10:22] phablet-tools up to date? [10:22] etc? [10:22] sergiusens: ^^ [10:22] * asac flashes ubuntu-system too [10:22] asac: recovering device now [10:24] asac: sure, I'll flash now [10:24] thostr_: so you know how to recover from this? [10:24] good [10:24] :) [10:24] asac: doing it right now... just takes time [10:24] yeah i know [10:25] asac: I also got an unbootable device with the latest phablet-flash. but since the flashing fails inside the boot loader I'm not sure if it fully upgraded [10:26] kinda hard to check when it's stuck at the Google logo [10:26] kalikiana: really? [10:26] kalikiana: what version of phablet-tools do you have? [10:26] 1.0+13.10.20130916.2-0ubuntu1 on saucy [10:27] hmm... flashing with 1.0+13.10.20130917.1-0ubuntu1 [10:27] right now [10:27] ditto [10:27] not sure what i used last as i upgraded today [10:27] * popey makes tea [10:29] kalikiana, if you get that error you dont have the latest phablet-tools [10:29] wait a sec [10:29] so whats going on ? [10:29] :-P [10:29] asac: I got the same result as kalikiana [10:29] what changed that the phablet-flash from yesterday creates a not bootable install? [10:29] ogra: ? [10:30] mardy: I guess you need a depends on qmenumodel-qml? [10:30] thostr_: check phablet-tools version too plz [10:30] I got unknown type [10:30] mardy: Also a blank page on my desktop where I have no wireless adaptor [10:31] asac: upgrading now everything [10:31] thostr_: which version did you have? [10:31] please tell me :) [10:31] i need to investigate whats going on [10:32] -> I feel strongly that this this must never ever happen, so we need to fix the root [10:32] asac: old one was from 4th of september [10:32] thostr_: do you have the exact version? [10:32] but install just went fine... [10:32] i want to have people post-mortem that [10:32] 1.0+13.10.20130904.1-0ubuntu1 [10:32] mardy: OK blank panel on my laptop too [10:32] asac, nothing changed [10:32] does some service not start automatically? [10:32] hmm seems I can update from 1.0+13.10.20130904.1-0ubuntu1 to 1.0+13.10.20130917.1-0ubuntu1 now but only after manually 'apt-get update' just now [10:32] so it must be quite new [10:32] ogra: since the 4th it makes sense ... we had channel rework etc. [10:33] but also not acceptable [10:33] (I have auto updates usually) [10:33] ?? [10:33] its not acceptable that we break things in this way [10:33] ever [10:33] asac, what do you mean ? [10:33] you must never be able to brick your phone by using wrong version of phablet-tools [10:33] nothing broke [10:33] oh OK the service didn't start [10:33] I'm trying to flash with the new version now to see if it works then [10:33] what's wrong with dbus activation? :( [10:34] ogra: it was broken for two folks by using wrong version [10:34] asac, popey as well as me are flashing multiple times every day [10:34] ogra: yes, with always the latest [10:34] asac, well, then thats a bug, definitelly nothing that was introduced newly [10:34] people that tidndt have the latest brocked their phone [10:34] thats the problem [10:34] sure [10:34] i will file a bug [10:34] and have someone check [10:34] yeah, i told you about that, the system image server was changed before phablet-tools was fixed [10:35] asac, we talked about it on tuesday [10:35] and yes we agreed that shouldnt happen again and i talked to stgraber about it [10:35] thats fine [10:35] i want to hear how we guarantee that this wont happen [10:35] so filing a bug [10:35] needs to be fixed at the root [10:36] by telling people (as we do anyway) to make sure to update to the latest phablet-tools ... how else wouold you prevent them ? [10:36] kalikiana: which version of phablet-tools did you use when bricking your phone? [10:36] oooh, new icons [10:36] kalikiana: which version with which image? [10:36] ogra: wrong answer :) [10:36] hence [10:36] i need to have a talk [10:36] there will always be changes to the protocol at some point, no way to cover that without phablet-tools update [10:36] you can easily have proper compatibility/spec tracking [10:36] etc. [10:37] Laney: yep, it needs a new indicator-network: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && reboot [10:37] not if there is nothing to be compatible to [10:37] there was [10:37] we had a first revision of the channels [10:37] that worked [10:37] ogra, why are there so many critical bugs [10:37] then we changed it and broke it because we dont have proper protocol tracking [10:37] asac, the old way of generating system images had to be dropped for the new way you requested [10:37] cant do both at the same time [10:37] still... :) [10:37] trust me [10:38] mardy: I just started it manually [10:38] so if there is nothing to be comaptible with how would you prevent breakage ? [10:38] why isn't it dbus activated though? [10:38] if the ABI changes both sides need to change [10:38] Laney: it worked all fine here, after a reboot [10:38] mardy, everything will be started via upstart, hence just one instance of everything [10:38] iKillCypher, because you didnt send patches to fix them ? [10:38] :) [10:38] :( [10:39] sure, because then the service is started by upstart [10:39] I still trying to figure out certain stuff about how it works [10:39] it's just a bit less than ideal to have to do that or start it yourself [10:39] asac: 1.0+13.10.20130904.1-0ubuntu1 with ubuntu-system [10:39] when ways to start dbus services already exist [10:39] mardy, but we indeed need a common, easy way to send arguments to apps that are already running [10:39] kalikiana: ok so the same as thostr... thanks [10:39] kalikiana: thostr_: sorry for the inconvenience [10:39] asac, there should have been some announcement for the phablet-tools update ... i agree thats an issue ... but we cant guarantee no ABI breakage if the server gets re-written from scratch and produces something completely different [10:40] no thats not good enough either [10:40] dont worry, i will get it fixed for real [10:40] just need to talk to folks and then we make policy that will prevent it [10:40] how will you fix it ? [10:41] mardy: commented on the mp, the missing dependency is probably the only thing that has to be fixed [10:41] asac: ogra: just introduce proper versioning [10:41] mardy: can you merge trunk and update po too while you're there? [10:41] ogra: i cant reveal all trade secrets :) [10:41] asac: ogra 56 seems good on mako [10:41] https://bugs.launchpad.net/touch-preview-images/+bug/1226614 [10:41] just wait [10:41] wtf [10:41] Ubuntu bug 1226614 in touch-preview-images "RIL/Radio Broken In Ported Xperia Z(Yuga)" [Undecided,New] [10:41] * ogra doesnt get it, you asked stgraber for a re-write that supports your new use case that required to throw away the old way of generating images [10:41] thostr_: you get it :) [10:42] "always use the latest" is a meaningless advise to be frank - even if I have regular updates I cannot know if I just crossed the line with the next image, there's a huge race condition in telling me to always update "when I can" [10:42] thostr_, thats exactly what the server change did [10:42] and a promise for allways backward compatible [10:42] asac, then dont ask for complete rewrites of the core :P [10:42] ogra: well, I'm thinking also about adding the click-update-manager to the seed as well [10:43] sil2100, great, i'm fine with that [10:43] ogra: I'll publish those two projects once they're built [10:43] ogra: thanks! [10:43] ah, not in archive yet ? [10:45] Morning all [10:45] ogra: is 56 good for you too? [10:45] hi davmor2 [10:45] hey davmor2 [10:46] * davmor2 is loving the mtp [10:46] Laney: ok [10:47] davmor2: yeah, handy isnt it!? [10:47] mardy: it's blank on my nexus 7 [10:47] * ogra waits for the last sms he sent to mark it good [10:48] asac, 56 is good on maguro [10:48] Laney: "make pot", right? [10:48] should it throw it out to the masses ? [10:48] cd po; qmake .; make pot [10:48] popey: ogra: lets go then :) [10:48] push the button [10:49] sil2100, please let me know when they are done, i cant update the seeds without the packages being fully published [10:49] Laney: OK. About the blankness, what does "apt-cache policy indicator-network" say? [10:49] * ogra goes and pushes buttons [10:49] mardy: 0913 [10:49] popey: if you send the mail you might want to capture the historic moment with a screenshot attached [10:49] popey: of the dashboard showing too green entries on top :) [10:49] http://reports.qa.ubuntu.com/smokeng/saucy/touch_ro/ [10:50] ogra: ;) Ok, they're still building, so it should be ready in a few monents [10:51] sil2100, yeah, no hurry, i just dont want to have to do it twice :) [10:51] Laney: old. Did you run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade? [10:51] asac: kk [10:51] mardy: doing so now [10:52] mardy: please version the dependency if you need a particular version [10:52] Laney: right [10:52] ogra: so i assume we wait with the seed changes until all the bits that we want to have for tday are ready> [10:52] or do we want to go and pop off those that are isolcated (e.g. js) [10:52] asac, right, we have to [10:52] well,you could already upload the jscript thingy if thats good [10:53] then we have that in the bank at least [10:53] right, and Mirv's seed change as well [10:53] who knows what happens to the rest :) [10:53] ogra: if thats ready, then too. yes [10:53] ogra, can you point me to ubuntu-phablet NetworkManager[1174]: could not mark modem as powered: org.ofono.Error.Failed Operation failed [10:53] ogra: Mirv's thing needs a test confirm [10:53] Mirv, your package is already fully published in the archive ? [10:53] asac, for the seeding ? [10:54] ogra: well, that installing it will do the right thing i guess [10:54] iKillCypher, thats normal [10:54] Mirv: are we sure we have the latest in archive? and not an old version? [10:54] meaning [10:54] Mirv: i remember that they did direct uploads before [10:54] that doesnt matter for seeding [10:54] version isnt taken into account [10:54] * davmor2 flashes phone with 56 to see if 3g magically works for him [10:54] well, if the current version breaks the image :0 [10:54] then it matters [10:54] mardy: works with the new one [10:54] push those changes then I will approve [10:54] rather seed once we know what is in is wanted [10:54] asac, not for updating the seeds :) ... but yeah, indeed [10:55] humm ogra care to explain [10:55] what is normal [10:55] iKillCypher, that line is normal ... ignore it [10:55] we can look at the trunk [10:55] if we find it :) [10:55] its just a warning, not an error [10:55] hgmm [10:55] Mirv: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntuone-hackers/clickmanager-plugin/trunk looks odd [10:55] doesnt have the version release commits [10:55] but not sure [10:56] Laney: pushed [10:56] so what is causing the phone not register celluar radio then? [10:56] -> ci channel [10:56] asac, are you on the right track ? click was sil2100 [10:56] oh :) [10:56] yeah [10:56] line 29 in landring plan [10:57] is what we talk about [10:57] well, i use ffox [10:57] because chrome is busted [10:57] and there i work with a visual offset :) [10:57] so i guess the INFLIGHT thing there is the seed change [10:57] so what is causing the phone not register celluar radio then? < ogra any clue on how I can debug this issue ? [10:57] oki think the right versionm is in the archive [10:57] at tleast the one documented in the comments [10:58] hmm. but the merge command came after [10:58] iKillCypher: are you on a qualcomm device and is it cyanogenmod based android userland..? [10:58] ok, let me try to update the seeds then ... takes a while [10:58] ogra: we need to confirm if the final merge he wanted is in [10:58] asac, right ... [10:58] ogra: sure, try ... if it doesnt break the image [10:58] its ok [10:58] even if the other stuff is still flying [10:58] Stskeeps, yes im on a qualcom device and it is cm based [10:58] updating the sseed != uploading meta :) [10:58] xperia z which I ported android for it [10:58] i'll hold back the latter until we are safe [10:59] iKillCypher: hmm, how about the rild? comes from qualcomm codeaurora or from cm? [10:59] it is open source [11:00] Stskeeps, https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_sony_qcom-common/tree/cm-10.2/libril [11:00] Stskeeps, https://bugs.launchpad.net/touch-preview-images/+bug/1226614 [11:00] Ubuntu bug 1226614 in touch-preview-images "RIL/Radio Broken In Ported Xperia Z(Yuga)" [Undecided,New] [11:00] jibel: you need to kick http://people.canonical.com/~j-lallement/touch/changes/current/20130918.1.html manually? [11:00] if so, please do :) [11:00] oh no [11:00] ignore last line [11:02] mail sent [11:02] \o/ === MacSlow is now known as MacSlow|lunch [11:05] mardy: is someone working on making it show / prompt for security? [11:06] Laney: the wifi panel? No idea [11:06] hm === promyloph is now known as promy|afk [11:16] popey: still no 3g on maguro :( [11:17] davmor2, complain to your provider ... it works for me [11:18] ogra: ofono's bit is working, it's the nm talking to ofono that isn't [11:19] asac: it'll have version release commits when the first release from cu2d gets published [11:20] davmor2, hmm, i only get edge here ... but i have mobile data [11:20]