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ali1234http://paste.ubuntu.com/612616700:10
ali1234why does this come up with the error "need to be root"?00:10
ali1234ah the argument isn't getting passed00:12
JamesTaitali1234, is there no log in ~/.cache/upstart that you can use?00:20
ali1234no00:20
ali1234those are the job logs, not the log from upstart itself00:20
ali1234which logs things like "this job didn't stop when i told it"00:20
JamesTaitRight.00:20
ali1234but it's ok, i got my shim working now00:20
ali1234the first argument is supposed to be the process name00:21
ali1234so it ignored the "--user"00:21
ali1234now it works and i can see what it is doing00:21
MooDoomorning07:27
popeymorning07:29
MartijnVdS\07:29
MartijnVdS\o07:29
MartijnVdSArrrr!07:30
MartijnVdSIt be Talk Like a Pirate Day!07:30
popeyNo.07:35
MartijnVdSpopey: yes, it is07:36
TheOpenSourcererhttp://www.talklikeapirate.com/07:37
TheOpenSourcererArrr Harrr07:37
TheOpenSourcererMe harties07:37
SuperMattbe that this day already?07:38
popeyOh I don't doubt it is that day for some.07:38
SuperMattthe cycles of the earth be hasty07:38
TheOpenSourcererThe weevils in the ships biscuits be tasty07:39
TheOpenSourcerer(See what I did there?)07:39
SuperMatthow appropriate, you fight like a cow07:40
SuperMattthat's how pirates speak, right?07:40
TheOpenSourcererI was hoping we'd get a piratey limerick going...07:40
SuperMattoh07:41
SuperMattI didn't notice07:41
SuperMattso sorry07:41
TheOpenSourcererthe cycles of the earth be hasty,07:41
TheOpenSourcererThe weevils in the ships biscuits be tasty,07:41
SuperMattlet grog fill me liver07:41
TheOpenSourcererProbably culmiating in "Matey"07:41
TheOpenSourcererThat Black Beard makes me shiver.07:42
SuperMattI don't think this is going anywhere, matey07:42
TheOpenSourcererlol07:42
popeyFreaks07:42
TheOpenSourcererhttps://twitter.com/utterben/status/380584382966157312/photo/107:43
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SuperMattthings that bug me: websites which have really large SIGN UP HERE buttons, and exceptionally tiny text, hidden out of view, saying "already have an account, sign in here"07:44
SuperMattjust give me two buttons. LOG IN and SIGN UP07:44
SuperMattit's not difficult07:44
MartijnVdSJust remember I have an account. Cookies exist07:46
MartijnVdSstop logging me out all the time!07:46
SuperMattcookies expire07:46
MartijnVdSSuperMatt: you can make them not expire though07:46
MartijnVdSSuperMatt: or only in 203807:46
SuperMattsure sure07:46
SuperMattbut I don't mine my cookies expiring07:46
MartijnVdSSuperMatt: and then refresh the end date for every request made07:46
MartijnVdSyour sentence a word07:47
SuperMattmind07:47
JamesTaitArrr! Aast, me 'earties! 'appy Talk Like a Pirate Day! Arrr! :-D08:40
MyrttiI wish the keepass extension for Firefox were as good as one for Chrom(ium/e) is08:42
AlanBellSuperMatt: what do you think of the setup on http://exceptionalemails.com08:44
mungbeanthings that bug me: popovers on websites that turn the entire page black. especialyl on my tablet/mobile when try to scroll around to find the X it doesn't appear or is unselectable on a phone08:45
mungbeanadblock doesn't seem to kill these08:45
mungbeanusually they are facebook related08:45
brobostigongood morning everyone,08:46
SuperMattAlanBell: perfect!08:46
AlanBell\o/08:46
bigcalmGood morning peeps :)08:47
brobostigonmorning bigcalm08:47
bigcalmMyrtti: didn't know that there were such extensions. Which one are you using with Chromium?08:49
bigcalmHi brobostigon08:49
Myrttibigcalm: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chromeipass/ompiailgknfdndiefoaoiligalphfdae08:50
bigcalmChromepass, thanks :)08:50
mungbeancan anyone good with adblock tell me a filter to remove the facebook social plugin from, say, refugeeks.com08:53
MartijnVdSmungbean: set the "EasyPrivacy" filter08:54
MartijnVdSmungbean: https://easylist.adblockplus.org/en/08:54
mungbeanMartijnVdS: does esaylist include it?08:55
MartijnVdSmungbean: the EasyPrivacy list should block tracking stuff like Facebook plugins08:55
mungbeanah ok, thanks i'll try this08:55
mungbeanhmm..doesn't seem to08:56
MartijnVdSmungbean: http://www.squirrelconspiracy.net/abp/facebook-privacy-list.html ?08:57
mungbeanwill try...08:58
mungbeanalmost ..:(09:00
mungbeanstill get the popover, but blank page09:00
mungbeansurprised nobody else struggles with this on mobile browsing09:00
mungbeanon refugeks for example you scroll the scre to find the X button and the window moves with you, making it entirely unusable09:01
MartijnVdSoh it's one of those modal "please like thise site" popovers?09:01
mungbeanyes09:01
MartijnVdSI avoid sites like that as much as possible. But it seems to be a new trend.09:01
mungbeanyou don't know before you click09:02
popeythe orange website doesn't work at all in chromium for me09:06
popeyone reason why I left them09:06
popeythey have a popup which greys the entire window but you can't see the popup09:06
mungbeanpopey: chromium on mobile?09:08
popeychromium on ubuntu09:08
mungbeani hate the popovers with a passion09:08
mungbeani just hit back when i see them.09:08
mungbeani complained to a site owner once who said it only appears once a week, and i replied that if readers can't see the site they will never revisit09:09
bigcalmMyrtti: seems that the version of the http plugin for keepass2 is not compatible with the version of keepass2 from the USC. Did you do anything magic to get it all working for you?09:09
Myrttiyeah I probably have but I can't remember for the life of me what09:10
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bigcalmCould you send me your copy of the plugin file?09:10
bigcalm+please :)09:11
Myrttidll magic09:11
MyrttiI think09:11
Myrttihttps://github.com/pfn/keepasshttp/issues/124 http://askubuntu.com/questions/130627/how-to-integrate-keypass-and-chrome-chromium-using-chromipass09:11
bigcalmThanks :)09:12
mungbeanMartijnVdS: that popup seems to be a wordpress thing09:27
MartijnVdSmungbean: it's a plugin lots of people use then09:27
mungbeansome elements belong to the site , and some to facebook, so there's no way to globally kill them :(09:30
AlanBellso, release party things :)09:32
AlanBellI was thinking that one of the London pubs that serves horse might be fun http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/horse-meat-burgers-prove-a-big-favourite-at-london-pubs-8533800.html09:32
AlanBell(why the long face?)09:32
MyrttiI just bought horse mince last week. Second cheapest the store had, and had low fat content. I called it a bargain. Mixed the fried mince with the cheapest mince they sold (80% pork 20% beef mix) and froze part. Didn't fancy doing burgers with it tho09:45
MyrttiI wonder if I should have09:45
mungbeani never buy cheap mince09:47
mungbeani'd rather buy cheap steak and slow cook it09:47
TheOpenSourcererThis morning my laptop display and hdmi attached monitor have both gone totally dead. Doing nothing in particular, just reading a web page. If I then do Fn+F4 it turns on the monitors again, but they come back mirrored at 1024x768.10:18
TheOpenSourcererAm on 13.04 - anyone got any ideas/suggestions as to where the bug is/what to report it under? Up until today this has never happened before as far as I can recall.10:18
TheOpenSourcererlappy is a Samsung with Intel integrated graphics.10:18
mgdmI had a thing with a dodgy HDMI cable/Displayport adapter combo that meant the displayport link went down and wouldn't return without an X restart10:18
mgdmsomething similar perhaps? On mine, it haemorrhaged errors into dmesg10:19
TheOpenSourcererNope nothing untoward in dmesg - only reported boot up to about 5secs10:20
mgdmhmmm10:20
TheOpenSourcererSep 19 10:40:12 hrun NetworkManager[1217]: <warn> nl_recvmsgs() error: (-33) Dump inconsistency detected, interrupted10:21
TheOpenSourcererOnly interesting thing in syslog10:22
marcushaslamhi10:40
popeyTheOpenSourcerer: anything in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?10:43
TheOpenSourcererNope.10:43
TheOpenSourcererI just rebooted my lappy.10:43
mgdmis there still a /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old or something?10:44
TheOpenSourcererRecalled when I first turned it on this morning the login screen never showed. I loged in by typing my password but the actual login page wasn't visible at all.10:44
mgdmI'm sure it used to keep the previous one10:44
TheOpenSourcererYep - have looked in all the old X logs nothing bad.10:44
TheOpenSourcererWill see if it happens again today after a restart. Maybe lightdm was a bit confused...10:45
popeyall up to date?10:45
davmor2Morning all10:45
TheOpenSourcererYes.10:45
Laneyman13:30
Laneytoday is a cold day13:30
MooDooLaney: love this time of year :)13:32
Laneyit wasn't gradual enough >:(13:33
MooDooit's lovely, :D13:33
daftykinshaha it was definitely like someone flicked a switch from summer to winter13:33
Myrttias long as the water in the outdoor bathtub is warm enough, it's summer13:38
directhexi could use a coat with some insulation13:41
MartijnVdSwetsuit13:48
bigcalmMyrtti: have you and dsample got a hot tub in the uk?13:48
Myrttibigcalm: no, but I'm dreaming of a holiday somewhere with a hottub13:48
bigcalm:)13:48
Myrttiand I'm not even in UK. And have no idea when I will be.13:49
Myrttinor have any idea will I have time for a holiday.13:49
bigcalmI'm sorry :(13:51
Myrttimight end up taking unpaid leave if I end up getting the job13:51
Myrttidon't be, it would be a happy occasion and a happy reason to not get paid13:51
daftykinsthat good a job eh?13:52
daftykinsi'm looking into getting back on the horse at the mo13:52
Myrttidaftykins: well I'm exhausted at being unemployed, but I also recognise my need of having some proper time off. This summer has been exhausting.13:53
Myrttimind draining. emotional sponge. black hole. energy leak.13:54
daftykinsexhausted at being unemployed? i don't follow13:54
Myrttitrying to figure out what I actually want to do and applying for jobs and waiting for the results of applications and job interviews13:54
daftykinsah right13:54
daftykinsi only just started browsing13:55
Myrttialso, being unemployed means relatives and family expect me to have nothing else to do13:55
funkyHatYeah. Unemployment can be very draining13:55
Myrttior that I don't have any plans for my life or my time13:55
daftykinsi just want some proper routine back13:57
daftykinsplus i haven't got the motivation to make something of self employment13:57
TheOpenSourcererThis is rather cool if proven... "Scientists find life coming to Earth from space " http://www.sheffield.ac.uk/news/nr/scientists-find-life-coming-to-earth-from-space-1.30997214:33
ali1234i don't buy it14:36
ali1234they sent a balloon up really high and whe it came down it had some bacteria on it14:36
ali1234"must have come from space. there is no other possible explanation."14:36
TheOpenSourcererNot quite - they said it was "clean" ;-)14:37
TheOpenSourcererI do realise it needs more "proof" and testing but it's a very interesting theory. Would really upset the creationists :-D14:37
ali1234yeah, i don't believe it14:37
ali1234do it again about 100 times and i might believe it14:38
AlanBellhttp://journalofcosmology.com/JOC22/milton_diatom.pdf the paper has a few more details, but yeah, needs repeating lots of times14:44
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Laneyargh16:52
LaneyI really need to find out how to turn "Mega Bass" on my crappy stero downstairs off16:53
Laneywhen it's on all I get upstairs in the office is a really irritating buzzing16:53
Laneycan't do it without the remote though, and that's lost16:53
nayla_Hi Guys16:59
daftykinshi16:59
nayla_Someone can help me to install Ubuntu 12.04 LTS16:59
daftykinssure16:59
nayla_I am confusing for partation16:59
daftykinsis this desktop?16:59
nayla_laptop - Lenovo x6016:59
daftykinsor server16:59
nayla_RAM - 2GB16:59
nayla_i want unbutu desktop17:00
nayla_yes. ubuntu desktop17:00
daftykinsok, are you running the installer now and at the partitioning stage?17:00
nayla_not yet. I am reading first.17:00
nayla_i already install ubuntu using entire HD17:01
daftykinsok. will Ubuntu be the only OS on that laptop?17:01
daftykinsah right, but you want it done differently?17:01
nayla_yes.17:01
nayla_I feel it is better right?17:01
nayla_I am just beginner for this Linux OS :)17:01
nayla_my laptop HD size is 250 GB17:02
nayla_RAM - 2GB17:02
daftykinsi'd definitely prefer to have the /home partition separate to the / (root)17:02
nayla_I want to install Ubuntu for PHP development.17:02
nayla_ok.17:02
nayla_First partition is "/"17:03
nayla_May I know size?17:03
daftykinsi would probably do: 150MB /boot ext4, 20GB / ext4, 4GB swap, then the rest /home ext417:03
nayla_Is 20 GB is enough for "/" ?17:04
daftykinsit depends if you're going to install much software17:04
daftykinsthe clean install size will probably be ~4GB tops17:04
nayla_i will install MySQL DB17:04
daftykinsso that'd be a lot spare17:04
daftykinsmmm, depends where the database(s) will live then i guess, and if they'll be very big17:05
daftykinsno harm in going up to 40 or 50GB17:05
nayla_Like this can change the DB location?17:05
nayla_ok. I understand.17:05
daftykinsi don't see why not17:05
nayla_mostly i will install17:05
nayla_- Apache217:06
nayla_- PHP17:06
nayla_- Mysql17:06
nayla_so, you recommand 50GB right?17:06
daftykinsnone of those will really take much space, but yeah i think it'd be a fine choice17:07
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nayla_Hi @Dafty,17:08
nayla_Only 4 partitions?17:08
nayla_anything else?17:08
daftykinsnope that'd be plenty17:08
nayla_Thank you so much. i will follow your guide :)17:08
daftykinsno problem :)17:08
nayla_By the way, Ubuntu 13.xx is good?17:09
nayla_I feel slower than 12.0417:09
nayla_May I know your review?17:09
daftykins13.04 will only be supported until January, 12.04.3 will be supported longer so might be more appropriate for your development work17:10
nayla_one more thing.17:10
nayla_I have the other problem that i don't know is "Backup & Restore"17:11
nayla_in Window, can do easily.17:11
nayla_In Ubuntu, I am reading and still didn't get this feature.17:11
nayla_Which program you use for this? Thanks.17:11
Myrttideja-dup17:13
Myrttiafaik it's already installed by default17:14
nayla_I see.17:15
nayla_It is working well?17:15
nayla_by the way. Thanks17:16
nayla_I need to test more for this Deja-dup17:16
nayla_@Myrtti. Thanks17:16
nayla_Thanks for your help all. I will reinstall ubuntu OS again :)17:17
daftykinsenjoy17:17
twagerI have been given a Sanfransisco phone which I have upgraded to cyanogenmod..Wonder if it is possible to chang the os to Ubuntu ?17:24
Myrttiso that would be ZTE Blade then? I don't think that's on the list of phones that there's an Ubuntu image for17:26
twagerMyrtti, It is a ZTE...Where do I find a list of images ?17:27
Myrttiwell basically AFAIK it needs to be a Nexus: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install17:28
twagerThanks..Just googled the ubuntu android page and looks like I am asking too much :-(17:31
daubersEvening17:41
daftykinshi daubers *tips hat*17:48
daubersHow goes things?17:49
daftykinsmmm not bad here ty, i am currently enjoying GTA V17:50
daftykinsand yourself?17:50
daubersGood :) Relaxing in Amsterdam before flying home tomorrow17:50
daftykins:o17:57
daftykinsfancy times!17:57
daftykinsjetsetting eh? ;)17:57
Myrttipopey: I don't know if you've gotten the email but I got an email from Nabee Socks today which has a -15% promo code and a promise of a -30% if you write them a review17:57
daubersdaftykins: :p Work stuff really. Just added a couple of days for a cheap holiday on the end17:58
daftykinssounds good!18:01
daftykinsdaubers: more fun storage systems?18:03
daubersdaftykins: Indeed18:07
daubersdaftykins: and trade shows18:08
daftykins:o18:08
daubersback to real life next week18:10
daubersnever fun18:10
daftykinsaww18:20
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popeyevening all19:40
popeyMyrtti: i have not!19:40
brobostigonevenning popey19:40
Myrttipopey: apparently they're still out on some if not all sizes of the bolo design, but maybe they get new designs and new shipment of the old ones before the offer code runs out19:41
Myrttichiching, you've got mail19:42
popeythanks Myrtti !19:52
hd5770need more speace!!20:49
popeyDelete stuff!20:54
* hd5770 tryingggg21:11
daftykinshttps://www.dropbox.com/s/pft49khdhn9aleo/IMG_20130919_221342.jpg21:14
daftykinsGTA V screenie21:14
popeythink i might wait for pc gta v21:24
daftykinsit looks very impressive on xbox36021:25
daftykinsi wouldn't hesitate to recommend it even for current gen21:25
* mgdm hasn't played GTA since 221:26
mgdmI loved that game21:26
daftykinsapart from the fact that they finished the iOS companion app before the Android one =|21:26
daftykinsAndroid one still isn't out!21:26
daftykinsmgdm: didn't fancy 3D?21:26
mgdmyou need an app for it?21:26
mgdmdaftykins: never had anything it'd run on21:26
daftykinsnot need no, but it does complement it21:27
daftykinsah21:27
daftykinsit's on tablets and everything now @_@ (3)21:27
daftykinsbut 3 is very limited, it'd be grating to go back to21:27
popeyi still go back and play GTA on xbox.. played it last week for a bit21:29
popeywas happy to dig out my xbox crystal21:29
daftykinsyeah but you can't do half as many things21:30
Myrttiwhee21:53
MyrttiI'm getting two new pairs for free \o/21:53
popeyMyrtti: how'd you wangle that!?21:57
popeydid you write an awesome review?21:58
MyrttiI mentioned In it that my argyle ones Had some trouble, that it's not a user fault (since I've washed them per instructions)...21:59
Myrttiand included some photos with an educated guess of the cause22:00
Myrttithey'll discuss the problem with their manufacturer22:01
Myrttimy review was awesome anyway22:02
Myrtti:-P22:02
popeyheh22:06
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