[00:10] <ali1234> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6126167
[00:10] <ali1234> why does this come up with the error "need to be root"?
[00:12] <ali1234> ah the argument isn't getting passed
[00:20] <JamesTait> ali1234, is there no log in ~/.cache/upstart that you can use?
[00:20] <ali1234> no
[00:20] <ali1234> those are the job logs, not the log from upstart itself
[00:20] <ali1234> which logs things like "this job didn't stop when i told it"
[00:20] <JamesTait> Right.
[00:20] <ali1234> but it's ok, i got my shim working now
[00:21] <ali1234> the first argument is supposed to be the process name
[00:21] <ali1234> so it ignored the "--user"
[00:21] <ali1234> now it works and i can see what it is doing
[07:27] <MooDoo> morning
[07:29] <popey> morning
[07:29] <MartijnVdS> \
[07:29] <MartijnVdS> \o
[07:30] <MartijnVdS> Arrrr!
[07:30] <MartijnVdS> It be Talk Like a Pirate Day!
[07:35] <popey> No.
[07:36] <MartijnVdS> popey: yes, it is
[07:37] <TheOpenSourcerer> http://www.talklikeapirate.com/
[07:37] <TheOpenSourcerer> Arrr Harrr
[07:37] <TheOpenSourcerer> Me harties
[07:38] <SuperMatt> be that this day already?
[07:38] <popey> Oh I don't doubt it is that day for some.
[07:38] <SuperMatt> the cycles of the earth be hasty
[07:39] <TheOpenSourcerer> The weevils in the ships biscuits be tasty
[07:39] <TheOpenSourcerer> (See what I did there?)
[07:40] <SuperMatt> how appropriate, you fight like a cow
[07:40] <SuperMatt> that's how pirates speak, right?
[07:40] <TheOpenSourcerer> I was hoping we'd get a piratey limerick going...
[07:41] <SuperMatt> oh
[07:41] <SuperMatt> I didn't notice
[07:41] <SuperMatt> so sorry
[07:41] <TheOpenSourcerer> the cycles of the earth be hasty,
[07:41] <TheOpenSourcerer> The weevils in the ships biscuits be tasty,
[07:41] <SuperMatt> let grog fill me liver
[07:41] <TheOpenSourcerer> Probably culmiating in "Matey"
[07:42] <TheOpenSourcerer> That Black Beard makes me shiver.
[07:42] <SuperMatt> I don't think this is going anywhere, matey
[07:42] <TheOpenSourcerer> lol
[07:42] <popey> Freaks
[07:43] <TheOpenSourcerer> https://twitter.com/utterben/status/380584382966157312/photo/1
[07:44] <SuperMatt> things that bug me: websites which have really large SIGN UP HERE buttons, and exceptionally tiny text, hidden out of view, saying "already have an account, sign in here"
[07:44] <SuperMatt> just give me two buttons. LOG IN and SIGN UP
[07:44] <SuperMatt> it's not difficult
[07:46] <MartijnVdS> Just remember I have an account. Cookies exist
[07:46] <MartijnVdS> stop logging me out all the time!
[07:46] <SuperMatt> cookies expire
[07:46] <MartijnVdS> SuperMatt: you can make them not expire though
[07:46] <MartijnVdS> SuperMatt: or only in 2038
[07:46] <SuperMatt> sure sure
[07:46] <SuperMatt> but I don't mine my cookies expiring
[07:46] <MartijnVdS> SuperMatt: and then refresh the end date for every request made
[07:47] <MartijnVdS> your sentence a word
[07:47] <SuperMatt> mind
[08:40] <JamesTait> Arrr! Aast, me 'earties! 'appy Talk Like a Pirate Day! Arrr! :-D
[08:42] <Myrtti> I wish the keepass extension for Firefox were as good as one for Chrom(ium/e) is
[08:44] <AlanBell> SuperMatt: what do you think of the setup on http://exceptionalemails.com
[08:45] <mungbean> things that bug me: popovers on websites that turn the entire page black. especialyl on my tablet/mobile when try to scroll around to find the X it doesn't appear or is unselectable on a phone
[08:45] <mungbean> adblock doesn't seem to kill these
[08:45] <mungbean> usually they are facebook related
[08:46] <brobostigon> good morning everyone,
[08:46] <SuperMatt> AlanBell: perfect!
[08:46] <AlanBell> \o/
[08:47] <bigcalm> Good morning peeps :)
[08:47] <brobostigon> morning bigcalm
[08:49] <bigcalm> Myrtti: didn't know that there were such extensions. Which one are you using with Chromium?
[08:49] <bigcalm> Hi brobostigon
[08:50] <Myrtti> bigcalm: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chromeipass/ompiailgknfdndiefoaoiligalphfdae
[08:50] <bigcalm> Chromepass, thanks :)
[08:53] <mungbean> can anyone good with adblock tell me a filter to remove the facebook social plugin from, say, refugeeks.com
[08:54] <MartijnVdS> mungbean: set the "EasyPrivacy" filter
[08:54] <MartijnVdS> mungbean: https://easylist.adblockplus.org/en/
[08:55] <mungbean> MartijnVdS: does esaylist include it?
[08:55] <MartijnVdS> mungbean: the EasyPrivacy list should block tracking stuff like Facebook plugins
[08:55] <mungbean> ah ok, thanks i'll try this
[08:56] <mungbean> hmm..doesn't seem to
[08:57] <MartijnVdS> mungbean: http://www.squirrelconspiracy.net/abp/facebook-privacy-list.html ?
[08:58] <mungbean> will try...
[09:00] <mungbean> almost ..:(
[09:00] <mungbean> still get the popover, but blank page
[09:00] <mungbean> surprised nobody else struggles with this on mobile browsing
[09:01] <mungbean> on refugeks for example you scroll the scre to find the X button and the window moves with you, making it entirely unusable
[09:01] <MartijnVdS> oh it's one of those modal "please like thise site" popovers?
[09:01] <mungbean> yes
[09:01] <MartijnVdS> I avoid sites like that as much as possible. But it seems to be a new trend.
[09:02] <mungbean> you don't know before you click
[09:06] <popey> the orange website doesn't work at all in chromium for me
[09:06] <popey> one reason why I left them
[09:06] <popey> they have a popup which greys the entire window but you can't see the popup
[09:08] <mungbean> popey: chromium on mobile?
[09:08] <popey> chromium on ubuntu
[09:08] <mungbean> i hate the popovers with a passion
[09:08] <mungbean> i just hit back when i see them.
[09:09] <mungbean> i complained to a site owner once who said it only appears once a week, and i replied that if readers can't see the site they will never revisit
[09:09] <bigcalm> Myrtti: seems that the version of the http plugin for keepass2 is not compatible with the version of keepass2 from the USC. Did you do anything magic to get it all working for you?
[09:10] <Myrtti> yeah I probably have but I can't remember for the life of me what
[09:10] <bigcalm> Could you send me your copy of the plugin file?
[09:11] <bigcalm> +please :)
[09:11] <Myrtti> dll magic
[09:11] <Myrtti> I think
[09:11] <Myrtti> https://github.com/pfn/keepasshttp/issues/124 http://askubuntu.com/questions/130627/how-to-integrate-keypass-and-chrome-chromium-using-chromipass
[09:12] <bigcalm> Thanks :)
[09:27] <mungbean> MartijnVdS: that popup seems to be a wordpress thing
[09:27] <MartijnVdS> mungbean: it's a plugin lots of people use then
[09:30] <mungbean> some elements belong to the site , and some to facebook, so there's no way to globally kill them :(
[09:32] <AlanBell> so, release party things :)
[09:32] <AlanBell> I was thinking that one of the London pubs that serves horse might be fun http://www.standard.co.uk/news/london/horse-meat-burgers-prove-a-big-favourite-at-london-pubs-8533800.html
[09:32] <AlanBell> (why the long face?)
[09:45] <Myrtti> I just bought horse mince last week. Second cheapest the store had, and had low fat content. I called it a bargain. Mixed the fried mince with the cheapest mince they sold (80% pork 20% beef mix) and froze part. Didn't fancy doing burgers with it tho
[09:45] <Myrtti> I wonder if I should have
[09:47] <mungbean> i never buy cheap mince
[09:47] <mungbean> i'd rather buy cheap steak and slow cook it
[10:18] <TheOpenSourcerer> This morning my laptop display and hdmi attached monitor have both gone totally dead. Doing nothing in particular, just reading a web page. If I then do Fn+F4 it turns on the monitors again, but they come back mirrored at 1024x768.
[10:18] <TheOpenSourcerer> Am on 13.04 - anyone got any ideas/suggestions as to where the bug is/what to report it under? Up until today this has never happened before as far as I can recall.
[10:18] <TheOpenSourcerer> lappy is a Samsung with Intel integrated graphics.
[10:18] <mgdm> I had a thing with a dodgy HDMI cable/Displayport adapter combo that meant the displayport link went down and wouldn't return without an X restart
[10:19] <mgdm> something similar perhaps? On mine, it haemorrhaged errors into dmesg
[10:20] <TheOpenSourcerer> Nope nothing untoward in dmesg - only reported boot up to about 5secs
[10:20] <mgdm> hmmm
[10:21] <TheOpenSourcerer> Sep 19 10:40:12 hrun NetworkManager[1217]: <warn> nl_recvmsgs() error: (-33) Dump inconsistency detected, interrupted
[10:22] <TheOpenSourcerer> Only interesting thing in syslog
[10:40] <marcushaslam> hi
[10:43] <popey> TheOpenSourcerer: anything in /var/log/Xorg.0.log ?
[10:43] <TheOpenSourcerer> Nope.
[10:43] <TheOpenSourcerer> I just rebooted my lappy.
[10:44] <mgdm> is there still a /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old or something?
[10:44] <TheOpenSourcerer> Recalled when I first turned it on this morning the login screen never showed. I loged in by typing my password but the actual login page wasn't visible at all.
[10:44] <mgdm> I'm sure it used to keep the previous one
[10:44] <TheOpenSourcerer> Yep - have looked in all the old X logs nothing bad.
[10:45] <TheOpenSourcerer> Will see if it happens again today after a restart. Maybe lightdm was a bit confused...
[10:45] <popey> all up to date?
[10:45] <davmor2> Morning all
[10:45] <TheOpenSourcerer> Yes.
[13:30] <Laney> man
[13:30] <Laney> today is a cold day
[13:32] <MooDoo> Laney: love this time of year :)
[13:33] <Laney> it wasn't gradual enough >:(
[13:33] <MooDoo> it's lovely, :D
[13:33] <daftykins> haha it was definitely like someone flicked a switch from summer to winter
[13:38] <Myrtti> as long as the water in the outdoor bathtub is warm enough, it's summer
[13:41] <directhex> i could use a coat with some insulation
[13:48] <MartijnVdS> wetsuit
[13:48] <bigcalm> Myrtti: have you and dsample got a hot tub in the uk?
[13:48] <Myrtti> bigcalm: no, but I'm dreaming of a holiday somewhere with a hottub
[13:48] <bigcalm> :)
[13:49] <Myrtti> and I'm not even in UK. And have no idea when I will be.
[13:49] <Myrtti> nor have any idea will I have time for a holiday.
[13:51] <bigcalm> I'm sorry :(
[13:51] <Myrtti> might end up taking unpaid leave if I end up getting the job
[13:51] <Myrtti> don't be, it would be a happy occasion and a happy reason to not get paid
[13:52] <daftykins> that good a job eh?
[13:52] <daftykins> i'm looking into getting back on the horse at the mo
[13:53] <Myrtti> daftykins: well I'm exhausted at being unemployed, but I also recognise my need of having some proper time off. This summer has been exhausting.
[13:54] <Myrtti> mind draining. emotional sponge. black hole. energy leak.
[13:54] <daftykins> exhausted at being unemployed? i don't follow
[13:54] <Myrtti> trying to figure out what I actually want to do and applying for jobs and waiting for the results of applications and job interviews
[13:54] <daftykins> ah right
[13:55] <daftykins> i only just started browsing
[13:55] <Myrtti> also, being unemployed means relatives and family expect me to have nothing else to do
[13:55] <funkyHat> Yeah. Unemployment can be very draining
[13:55] <Myrtti> or that I don't have any plans for my life or my time
[13:57] <daftykins> i just want some proper routine back
[13:57] <daftykins> plus i haven't got the motivation to make something of self employment
[14:33] <TheOpenSourcerer> This is rather cool if proven... "Scientists find life coming to Earth from space " http://www.sheffield.ac.uk/news/nr/scientists-find-life-coming-to-earth-from-space-1.309972
[14:36] <ali1234> i don't buy it
[14:36] <ali1234> they sent a balloon up really high and whe it came down it had some bacteria on it
[14:36] <ali1234> "must have come from space. there is no other possible explanation."
[14:37] <TheOpenSourcerer> Not quite - they said it was "clean" ;-)
[14:37] <TheOpenSourcerer> I do realise it needs more "proof" and testing but it's a very interesting theory. Would really upset the creationists :-D
[14:37] <ali1234> yeah, i don't believe it
[14:38] <ali1234> do it again about 100 times and i might believe it
[14:44] <AlanBell> http://journalofcosmology.com/JOC22/milton_diatom.pdf the paper has a few more details, but yeah, needs repeating lots of times
[16:52] <Laney> argh
[16:53] <Laney> I really need to find out how to turn "Mega Bass" on my crappy stero downstairs off
[16:53] <Laney> when it's on all I get upstairs in the office is a really irritating buzzing
[16:53] <Laney> can't do it without the remote though, and that's lost
[16:59] <nayla_> Hi Guys
[16:59] <daftykins> hi
[16:59] <nayla_> Someone can help me to install Ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[16:59] <daftykins> sure
[16:59] <nayla_> I am confusing for partation
[16:59] <daftykins> is this desktop?
[16:59] <nayla_> laptop - Lenovo x60
[16:59] <daftykins> or server
[16:59] <nayla_> RAM - 2GB
[17:00] <nayla_> i want unbutu desktop
[17:00] <nayla_> yes. ubuntu desktop
[17:00] <daftykins> ok, are you running the installer now and at the partitioning stage?
[17:00] <nayla_> not yet. I am reading first.
[17:01] <nayla_> i already install ubuntu using entire HD
[17:01] <daftykins> ok. will Ubuntu be the only OS on that laptop?
[17:01] <daftykins> ah right, but you want it done differently?
[17:01] <nayla_> yes.
[17:01] <nayla_> I feel it is better right?
[17:01] <nayla_> I am just beginner for this Linux OS :)
[17:02] <nayla_> my laptop HD size is 250 GB
[17:02] <nayla_> RAM - 2GB
[17:02] <daftykins> i'd definitely prefer to have the /home partition separate to the / (root)
[17:02] <nayla_> I want to install Ubuntu for PHP development.
[17:02] <nayla_> ok.
[17:03] <nayla_> First partition is "/"
[17:03] <nayla_> May I know size?
[17:03] <daftykins> i would probably do: 150MB /boot ext4, 20GB / ext4, 4GB swap, then the rest /home ext4
[17:04] <nayla_> Is 20 GB is enough for "/" ?
[17:04] <daftykins> it depends if you're going to install much software
[17:04] <daftykins> the clean install size will probably be ~4GB tops
[17:04] <nayla_> i will install MySQL DB
[17:04] <daftykins> so that'd be a lot spare
[17:05] <daftykins> mmm, depends where the database(s) will live then i guess, and if they'll be very big
[17:05] <daftykins> no harm in going up to 40 or 50GB
[17:05] <nayla_> Like this can change the DB location?
[17:05] <nayla_> ok. I understand.
[17:05] <daftykins> i don't see why not
[17:05] <nayla_> mostly i will install
[17:06] <nayla_> - Apache2
[17:06] <nayla_> - PHP
[17:06] <nayla_> - Mysql
[17:06] <nayla_> so, you recommand 50GB right?
[17:07] <daftykins> none of those will really take much space, but yeah i think it'd be a fine choice
[17:08] <nayla_> Hi @Dafty,
[17:08] <nayla_> Only 4 partitions?
[17:08] <nayla_> anything else?
[17:08] <daftykins> nope that'd be plenty
[17:08] <nayla_> Thank you so much. i will follow your guide :)
[17:08] <daftykins> no problem :)
[17:09] <nayla_> By the way, Ubuntu 13.xx is good?
[17:09] <nayla_> I feel slower than 12.04
[17:09] <nayla_> May I know your review?
[17:10] <daftykins> 13.04 will only be supported until January, 12.04.3 will be supported longer so might be more appropriate for your development work
[17:10] <nayla_> one more thing.
[17:11] <nayla_> I have the other problem that i don't know is "Backup & Restore"
[17:11] <nayla_> in Window, can do easily.
[17:11] <nayla_> In Ubuntu, I am reading and still didn't get this feature.
[17:11] <nayla_> Which program you use for this? Thanks.
[17:13] <Myrtti> deja-dup
[17:14] <Myrtti> afaik it's already installed by default
[17:15] <nayla_> I see.
[17:15] <nayla_> It is working well?
[17:16] <nayla_> by the way. Thanks
[17:16] <nayla_> I need to test more for this Deja-dup
[17:16] <nayla_> @Myrtti. Thanks
[17:17] <nayla_> Thanks for your help all. I will reinstall ubuntu OS again :)
[17:17] <daftykins> enjoy
[17:24] <twager> I have been given a Sanfransisco phone which I have upgraded to cyanogenmod..Wonder if it is possible to chang the os to Ubuntu ?
[17:26] <Myrtti> so that would be ZTE Blade then? I don't think that's on the list of phones that there's an Ubuntu image for
[17:27] <twager> Myrtti, It is a ZTE...Where do I find a list of images ?
[17:28] <Myrtti> well basically AFAIK it needs to be a Nexus: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[17:31] <twager> Thanks..Just googled the ubuntu android page and looks like I am asking too much :-(
[17:41] <daubers> Evening
[17:48] <daftykins> hi daubers *tips hat*
[17:49] <daubers> How goes things?
[17:50] <daftykins> mmm not bad here ty, i am currently enjoying GTA V
[17:50] <daftykins> and yourself?
[17:50] <daubers> Good :) Relaxing in Amsterdam before flying home tomorrow
[17:57] <daftykins> :o
[17:57] <daftykins> fancy times!
[17:57] <daftykins> jetsetting eh? ;)
[17:57] <Myrtti> popey: I don't know if you've gotten the email but I got an email from Nabee Socks today which has a -15% promo code and a promise of a -30% if you write them a review
[17:58] <daubers> daftykins: :p Work stuff really. Just added a couple of days for a cheap holiday on the end
[18:01] <daftykins> sounds good!
[18:03] <daftykins> daubers: more fun storage systems?
[18:07] <daubers> daftykins: Indeed
[18:08] <daubers> daftykins: and trade shows
[18:08] <daftykins> :o
[18:10] <daubers> back to real life next week
[18:10] <daubers> never fun
[18:20] <daftykins> aww
[19:40] <popey> evening all
[19:40] <popey> Myrtti: i have not!
[19:40] <brobostigon> evenning popey
[19:41] <Myrtti> popey: apparently they're still out on some if not all sizes of the bolo design, but maybe they get new designs and new shipment of the old ones before the offer code runs out
[19:42] <Myrtti> chiching, you've got mail
[19:52] <popey> thanks Myrtti !
[20:49] <hd5770> need more speace!!
[20:54] <popey> Delete stuff!
[21:11]  * hd5770 tryingggg
[21:14] <daftykins> https://www.dropbox.com/s/pft49khdhn9aleo/IMG_20130919_221342.jpg
[21:14] <daftykins> GTA V screenie
[21:24] <popey> think i might wait for pc gta v
[21:25] <daftykins> it looks very impressive on xbox360
[21:25] <daftykins> i wouldn't hesitate to recommend it even for current gen
[21:26]  * mgdm hasn't played GTA since 2
[21:26] <mgdm> I loved that game
[21:26] <daftykins> apart from the fact that they finished the iOS companion app before the Android one =|
[21:26] <daftykins> Android one still isn't out!
[21:26] <daftykins> mgdm: didn't fancy 3D?
[21:26] <mgdm> you need an app for it?
[21:26] <mgdm> daftykins: never had anything it'd run on
[21:27] <daftykins> not need no, but it does complement it
[21:27] <daftykins> ah
[21:27] <daftykins> it's on tablets and everything now @_@ (3)
[21:27] <daftykins> but 3 is very limited, it'd be grating to go back to
[21:29] <popey> i still go back and play GTA on xbox.. played it last week for a bit
[21:29] <popey> was happy to dig out my xbox crystal
[21:30] <daftykins> yeah but you can't do half as many things
[21:53] <Myrtti> whee
[21:53] <Myrtti> I'm getting two new pairs for free \o/
[21:57] <popey> Myrtti: how'd you wangle that!?
[21:58] <popey> did you write an awesome review?
[21:59] <Myrtti> I mentioned In it that my argyle ones Had some trouble, that it's not a user fault (since I've washed them per instructions)...
[22:00] <Myrtti> and included some photos with an educated guess of the cause
[22:01] <Myrtti> they'll discuss the problem with their manufacturer
[22:02] <Myrtti> my review was awesome anyway
[22:02] <Myrtti> :-P
[22:06] <popey> heh