/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/09/19/#ubuntu-us-tn.txt

tencWhat are you guys using for an irc client?12:11
wrsttenc: I use quassel, it has  a core that runs on a server and the client (windows, mac, linux, android) can connect to it from anywhere so I'm always on12:21
wrstbut if you don't want always on the stand alone client probably isn't all that great12:22
tencHaha, another pi server?12:22
tenc:D12:22
wrstno actually use my VPS for that12:22
wrstwb tenc12:24
tencWhat host? (thanks ^^)12:25
wrstI have been using digital ocean12:25
wrstprice is super cheap 5 bucks a month for what I do I couldn't run the system for 5 bucks at my house12:25
wrstnot nearly as robust as linode but for my needs its perfect12:25
tencThat's nice, I'll need to look in to that.12:27
wrstit works well for me a lot of people use screen and irssi and then ssh in12:27
wrstor screen and weechat12:27
cyberangeror in wrst's case, quassel core14:09
wrsttenc: how is it going?14:15
tencah i got sidetracked; i'm using xchat right now which is fine but the integration with message-indicators is buggy (for me) although #ubuntu says it works fine so it's probably an overlooked config somewhere on my end.14:20
wrstI'm not for sure on the indicator stuff what might work best really, Unit193?14:21
wrstxchat I think is a nice client14:22
tencI've had good luck with it so far, simple and clean. Unlike, for example, Konversation. Holy cow that thing is huge--it must do a lot more than I'm thinking for the package to be 200+MB installed.14:23
wrstyou probably had to pull in all the QT dependencies14:24
tencAh, I bet you're right.14:25
wrstsome people don't like having that but I run QT and GTK apps14:27
tencIt is a beautiful day in TN.14:27
wrstye sit is14:27
wrstor yes it is I'm loving it14:27
Unit193wrst: Stupid Ubuntu basically tried to get everyone to use indicators, then switched them to gtk3, which Xfce4-panel and lxpanel aren't, so the further away from precise you get, the more broken they get unless you cheat and hold packages from precise.  This release may well have a xfce4-panel feature that permits gtk3 indicators in the gtk2 panel (some wrapper), but don't quote me on that and it's a chance the path taken will be to try ...16:41
Unit193... and get the gtk2 ones working a little.16:41
Unit193At least, that's how I see it. ;P16:42
Unit193But, this is more saucy information than raring, but if you have a saucy vm and want to try it, http://dpaste.com/1381815/16:43
cyberangeroh bugger16:46
cyberangerthey're at it again16:47
cyberangerwish I knew why they do what they do sometimes16:47
wrstUnit193: that's why many in the "community at large" don't care for Ubuntu16:56
wrstone of the reasons16:56
twaynepricewrst: need a new phone?  http://gigaom.com/2013/09/19/moto-x-is-coming-to-republic-wireless-for-299-with-5-monthly-plan/18:42
wrstI love my phone... my feelings aren't the same for my service provider :)18:49
wrsttwayneprice: I'm curious how well sprint works around here I have been looking at ting also18:50
twaynepricewrst: I'd guess that sprint isn't that great but maybe get a verizon mifi?  :)19:07
wrstdata really isn't huge for me19:08
wrstI like it but I can live without it19:08
twaynepriceI agree.  but you can use the mifi as a wifi for the moto.  :)19:09
wrstha ha that might get a little complex for driving down the road :)19:22
cyberangerconsidering republic myself19:28
cyberangersprint coverage isn't bad, but it seems everyone's got issues near work19:28
cyberangerwhich isn't shown on their maps19:28
cyberanger(guessing part of it is the building, but part of it must be more than that, some sort of RF noise)19:29
twaynepricewrst: as long as you have the mifi connected the moto should just work.19:30
twaynepricecyberanger: I think t $10/month plan would be fine with me.19:31
cyberangerwhere verizon has coverage19:31
wrstI really just want nothing to do with verizon19:31
cyberangersame here19:31
cyberangerand atm I've got that19:31
cyberangertwayneprice: thing is, it'd be 200 bucks for a new phone and if I don't have coverage, it's not worth that19:32
wrstI really like the ting plan of pay what you use, granted I would probably be in that 50 dollar range that most of the prepaids are anyway but I could decrease the bill if I needed to just by use19:34
twaynepricecyberanger: Most everything I do is around wifi.  Verizon is king around here so I could use verizon to connect the moto to.  MUCH cheaper than a standard verizon plan.19:39
twaynepricewrst: I'm not a fan of verizon either.  Except their coverage.  :)19:39
wrstcoverage is great, billing not so much :)19:41
cyberangertwayneprice: and that's just it, I don't have wifi at exactly the places I have no coverage19:42
twaynepricecyberanger: does any carrier have coverage everywhere you go?19:43
cyberangeriridium19:46
twaynepricecyberanger: :)  is there an iridium mifi?  :)19:47
cyberangerthe point is the few key places I know I repeat weekly, work and college19:47
cyberanger(and some others too, but the jist is I have three places I spend a ton of time at, 1/3rd means a landline is worth more)19:48
cyberangerI think iridium has a device like a mifi, but wifi over a satphone, ugh dear19:49
twaynepricecyberanger: That would be tough.  I have a company supplied att phone but the coverage stinks.19:49
twaynepriceVerizon is everywhere I go.19:50
cyberangerthe college is just the wrong terrain and old buildings19:50
cyberangermoreso old buildings, outside is a huge improvement19:50
cyberangerwork is just kinda fringe19:51
twaynepricecyberanger: I hear ya.  When my phone rings I have to run outside to answer it.  :)19:51
cyberangerthe phone I keep my fido sim gets better coverage than my t-mobile phone and sim19:51
cyberangerthat bit makes me laugh19:52
cyberangeroh that stinks, call forwarding?19:52
cyberangerthat's what I did to bridge the gab at college19:52
twaynepriceI usually just make do.  I don't really get a lot of phone calls.19:54
cyberangerI can't say I do either, but that's part of it, why pay for a phone you don't need, can't use where you'd need it or pay for something that only works where you already have mutiple voip lines19:58
twaynepriceYea.  Not having a single carrier that covers your area(s) would stink.20:01
cyberangerthat's the case for work, college has coverage, buildings just block it20:02
cyberangerI've got a wifi phone for college and home, and can vpn with it into my pbx20:02
cyberangerwork is really the worst20:02
cyberangerno wifi and no signal in the parking lot20:03
cyberangerthat's nice thing about east tn and west nc, pleanty of cb still20:03
cyberangerhere it's a hail mary20:04
twaynepricewhat wifi phone do you have?20:04
cyberangerLinksys WIP300 I thinklk20:10
cyberangerLinksys WIP300 I think20:11
cyberangeryeah, that looks right20:12
twaynepriceOuch! is $350 right?20:13
cyberangernot back when I got it20:14
cyberangerit's sorta like ram, newest is expensive, then the mid range is low, then there is the old stuff that you keep but isn't worth fixing20:14
cyberangerbecuase everybody charges an arm and a leg for parts20:15
twaynepriceYea.  It looks like most wireless voips are over $200, though.20:15
cyberangerI paid 100 or 150 (and this was before android was that cheap, same month I spent 500 on the T-Mobile g220:16
twaynepriceThat isn't bad.  $300 for the unlocked moto x doesn't sound too bad.20:17
cyberangercheaper is a wrt54gl, dd-wrt and a ht-50220:21
cyberangernot pocket sized, but it does the job much cheaper20:22
twaynepriceThat's true.20:24
twaynepricecyberanger: What I need is a mifi an ht 502 and this phone in my car.  :)  http://www.coldcraft.com/Portals/113031/images/analog%20phone.jpg20:28
cyberangerin that case, lose the ht-50220:47
cyberangerit's an ATA20:47
=== Omnifrog is now known as DJOmnifrog
wrsthave fun DJOmnifrog21:01
cyberangerdon't croak on the mixer21:08
cyberangerand break a frog leg21:08
DJOmnifrogthanks :D21:09
wrstyou know cyberanger frog legs are pretty tastey21:09
cyberangerso I hear?23:09
cyberangerDJOmnifrog: how's the show?23:09
DJOmnifrogall is well23:12
DJOmnifrogyou can live vicariously through the last played playlist http://grangerfx.com/LastPlayed.php23:12
cyberangerDJOmnifrog: you take requests?23:15
cyberangerDJOmnifrog: Nina Simone's Feeling Good?23:16
DJOmnifrogI do! Always23:18
DJOmnifrogI has that23:18
DJOmnifrogcoming up next after the break23:18
cyberangerlol, nice23:18
cyberangerthanks23:22
cyberangersad part is I didn't have the url to the stream, google showed me quick thankfully23:30
cyberangerhttp://209.9.238.5:8794/23:30
cyberangerlol, somebody calling in a request23:33
cyberanger?23:33
* Unit193 wonders if he should note something about shoutcast rather than icecast. :P23:34
Unit193tenc: Welcome back?23:35
cyberangerUnit193: eh, I've ran both, favor icecast, but if your playing with licensing, sometimes that forces your hand23:36
cyberangerspeaking of which, how do you all handle that DJOmnifrog23:36
cyberangerhey twayneprice23:36
cyberangerhey tenc23:36
cyberangeropps23:37
Unit193cyberanger: Lucky for me, I don't have to deal with that.23:37
Unit193(non-profit, so can use mp3, and trying not to stream music too.)23:37
cyberangersame here, but it was a part of the research mess when we were looking into it in the youth program23:37

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