[12:11] <tenc> What are you guys using for an irc client?
[12:21] <wrst> tenc: I use quassel, it has  a core that runs on a server and the client (windows, mac, linux, android) can connect to it from anywhere so I'm always on
[12:22] <wrst> but if you don't want always on the stand alone client probably isn't all that great
[12:22] <tenc> Haha, another pi server?
[12:22] <tenc> :D
[12:22] <wrst> no actually use my VPS for that
[12:24] <wrst> wb tenc
[12:25] <tenc> What host? (thanks ^^)
[12:25] <wrst> I have been using digital ocean
[12:25] <wrst> price is super cheap 5 bucks a month for what I do I couldn't run the system for 5 bucks at my house
[12:25] <wrst> not nearly as robust as linode but for my needs its perfect
[12:27] <tenc> That's nice, I'll need to look in to that.
[12:27] <wrst> it works well for me a lot of people use screen and irssi and then ssh in
[12:27] <wrst> or screen and weechat
[14:09] <cyberanger> or in wrst's case, quassel core
[14:15] <wrst> tenc: how is it going?
[14:20] <tenc> ah i got sidetracked; i'm using xchat right now which is fine but the integration with message-indicators is buggy (for me) although #ubuntu says it works fine so it's probably an overlooked config somewhere on my end.
[14:21] <wrst> I'm not for sure on the indicator stuff what might work best really, Unit193?
[14:22] <wrst> xchat I think is a nice client
[14:23] <tenc> I've had good luck with it so far, simple and clean. Unlike, for example, Konversation. Holy cow that thing is huge--it must do a lot more than I'm thinking for the package to be 200+MB installed.
[14:24] <wrst> you probably had to pull in all the QT dependencies
[14:25] <tenc> Ah, I bet you're right.
[14:27] <wrst> some people don't like having that but I run QT and GTK apps
[14:27] <tenc> It is a beautiful day in TN.
[14:27] <wrst> ye sit is
[14:27] <wrst> or yes it is I'm loving it
[16:41] <Unit193> wrst: Stupid Ubuntu basically tried to get everyone to use indicators, then switched them to gtk3, which Xfce4-panel and lxpanel aren't, so the further away from precise you get, the more broken they get unless you cheat and hold packages from precise.  This release may well have a xfce4-panel feature that permits gtk3 indicators in the gtk2 panel (some wrapper), but don't quote me on that and it's a chance the path taken will be to try ...
[16:41] <Unit193> ... and get the gtk2 ones working a little.
[16:42] <Unit193> At least, that's how I see it. ;P
[16:43] <Unit193> But, this is more saucy information than raring, but if you have a saucy vm and want to try it, http://dpaste.com/1381815/
[16:46] <cyberanger> oh bugger
[16:47] <cyberanger> they're at it again
[16:47] <cyberanger> wish I knew why they do what they do sometimes
[16:56] <wrst> Unit193: that's why many in the "community at large" don't care for Ubuntu
[16:56] <wrst> one of the reasons
[18:42] <twayneprice> wrst: need a new phone?  http://gigaom.com/2013/09/19/moto-x-is-coming-to-republic-wireless-for-299-with-5-monthly-plan/
[18:49] <wrst> I love my phone... my feelings aren't the same for my service provider :)
[18:50] <wrst> twayneprice: I'm curious how well sprint works around here I have been looking at ting also
[19:07] <twayneprice> wrst: I'd guess that sprint isn't that great but maybe get a verizon mifi?  :)
[19:08] <wrst> data really isn't huge for me
[19:08] <wrst> I like it but I can live without it
[19:09] <twayneprice> I agree.  but you can use the mifi as a wifi for the moto.  :)
[19:22] <wrst> ha ha that might get a little complex for driving down the road :)
[19:28] <cyberanger> considering republic myself
[19:28] <cyberanger> sprint coverage isn't bad, but it seems everyone's got issues near work
[19:28] <cyberanger> which isn't shown on their maps
[19:29] <cyberanger> (guessing part of it is the building, but part of it must be more than that, some sort of RF noise)
[19:30] <twayneprice> wrst: as long as you have the mifi connected the moto should just work.
[19:31] <twayneprice> cyberanger: I think t $10/month plan would be fine with me.
[19:31] <cyberanger> where verizon has coverage
[19:31] <wrst> I really just want nothing to do with verizon
[19:31] <cyberanger> same here
[19:31] <cyberanger> and atm I've got that
[19:32] <cyberanger> twayneprice: thing is, it'd be 200 bucks for a new phone and if I don't have coverage, it's not worth that
[19:34] <wrst> I really like the ting plan of pay what you use, granted I would probably be in that 50 dollar range that most of the prepaids are anyway but I could decrease the bill if I needed to just by use
[19:39] <twayneprice> cyberanger: Most everything I do is around wifi.  Verizon is king around here so I could use verizon to connect the moto to.  MUCH cheaper than a standard verizon plan.
[19:39] <twayneprice> wrst: I'm not a fan of verizon either.  Except their coverage.  :)
[19:41] <wrst> coverage is great, billing not so much :)
[19:42] <cyberanger> twayneprice: and that's just it, I don't have wifi at exactly the places I have no coverage
[19:43] <twayneprice> cyberanger: does any carrier have coverage everywhere you go?
[19:46] <cyberanger> iridium
[19:47] <twayneprice> cyberanger: :)  is there an iridium mifi?  :)
[19:47] <cyberanger> the point is the few key places I know I repeat weekly, work and college
[19:48] <cyberanger> (and some others too, but the jist is I have three places I spend a ton of time at, 1/3rd means a landline is worth more)
[19:49] <cyberanger> I think iridium has a device like a mifi, but wifi over a satphone, ugh dear
[19:49] <twayneprice> cyberanger: That would be tough.  I have a company supplied att phone but the coverage stinks.
[19:50] <twayneprice> Verizon is everywhere I go.
[19:50] <cyberanger> the college is just the wrong terrain and old buildings
[19:50] <cyberanger> moreso old buildings, outside is a huge improvement
[19:51] <cyberanger> work is just kinda fringe
[19:51] <twayneprice> cyberanger: I hear ya.  When my phone rings I have to run outside to answer it.  :)
[19:51] <cyberanger> the phone I keep my fido sim gets better coverage than my t-mobile phone and sim
[19:52] <cyberanger> that bit makes me laugh
[19:52] <cyberanger> oh that stinks, call forwarding?
[19:52] <cyberanger> that's what I did to bridge the gab at college
[19:54] <twayneprice> I usually just make do.  I don't really get a lot of phone calls.
[19:58] <cyberanger> I can't say I do either, but that's part of it, why pay for a phone you don't need, can't use where you'd need it or pay for something that only works where you already have mutiple voip lines
[20:01] <twayneprice> Yea.  Not having a single carrier that covers your area(s) would stink.
[20:02] <cyberanger> that's the case for work, college has coverage, buildings just block it
[20:02] <cyberanger> I've got a wifi phone for college and home, and can vpn with it into my pbx
[20:02] <cyberanger> work is really the worst
[20:03] <cyberanger> no wifi and no signal in the parking lot
[20:03] <cyberanger> that's nice thing about east tn and west nc, pleanty of cb still
[20:04] <cyberanger> here it's a hail mary
[20:04] <twayneprice> what wifi phone do you have?
[20:10] <cyberanger> Linksys WIP300 I thinklk
[20:11] <cyberanger> Linksys WIP300 I think
[20:12] <cyberanger> yeah, that looks right
[20:13] <twayneprice> Ouch! is $350 right?
[20:14] <cyberanger> not back when I got it
[20:14] <cyberanger> it's sorta like ram, newest is expensive, then the mid range is low, then there is the old stuff that you keep but isn't worth fixing
[20:15] <cyberanger> becuase everybody charges an arm and a leg for parts
[20:15] <twayneprice> Yea.  It looks like most wireless voips are over $200, though.
[20:16] <cyberanger> I paid 100 or 150 (and this was before android was that cheap, same month I spent 500 on the T-Mobile g2
[20:17] <twayneprice> That isn't bad.  $300 for the unlocked moto x doesn't sound too bad.
[20:21] <cyberanger> cheaper is a wrt54gl, dd-wrt and a ht-502
[20:22] <cyberanger> not pocket sized, but it does the job much cheaper
[20:24] <twayneprice> That's true.
[20:28] <twayneprice> cyberanger: What I need is a mifi an ht 502 and this phone in my car.  :)  http://www.coldcraft.com/Portals/113031/images/analog%20phone.jpg
[20:47] <cyberanger> in that case, lose the ht-502
[20:47] <cyberanger> it's an ATA
[21:01] <wrst> have fun DJOmnifrog
[21:08] <cyberanger> don't croak on the mixer
[21:08] <cyberanger> and break a frog leg
[21:09] <DJOmnifrog> thanks :D
[21:09] <wrst> you know cyberanger frog legs are pretty tastey
[23:09] <cyberanger> so I hear?
[23:09] <cyberanger> DJOmnifrog: how's the show?
[23:12] <DJOmnifrog> all is well
[23:12] <DJOmnifrog> you can live vicariously through the last played playlist http://grangerfx.com/LastPlayed.php
[23:15] <cyberanger> DJOmnifrog: you take requests?
[23:16] <cyberanger> DJOmnifrog: Nina Simone's Feeling Good?
[23:18] <DJOmnifrog> I do! Always
[23:18] <DJOmnifrog> I has that
[23:18] <DJOmnifrog> coming up next after the break
[23:18] <cyberanger> lol, nice
[23:22] <cyberanger> thanks
[23:30] <cyberanger> sad part is I didn't have the url to the stream, google showed me quick thankfully
[23:30] <cyberanger> http://209.9.238.5:8794/
[23:33] <cyberanger> lol, somebody calling in a request
[23:33] <cyberanger> ?
[23:34]  * Unit193 wonders if he should note something about shoutcast rather than icecast. :P
[23:35] <Unit193> tenc: Welcome back?
[23:36] <cyberanger> Unit193: eh, I've ran both, favor icecast, but if your playing with licensing, sometimes that forces your hand
[23:36] <cyberanger> speaking of which, how do you all handle that DJOmnifrog
[23:36] <cyberanger> hey twayneprice
[23:36] <cyberanger> hey tenc
[23:37] <cyberanger> opps
[23:37] <Unit193> cyberanger: Lucky for me, I don't have to deal with that.
[23:37] <Unit193> (non-profit, so can use mp3, and trying not to stream music too.)
[23:37] <cyberanger> same here, but it was a part of the research mess when we were looking into it in the youth program