[00:00] <kelly> i'm a noob could you please tell me the steps
[00:00] <kelly>  I would be grateful
[00:00] <jrib> NotCharlesIves: 1) it tells you to enable a root pass for no good reason (though it does disable it later) 2) the formatting messed up one of its commands
[00:00] <dhyana> hi kelly
[00:01] <NotCharlesIves> thanks jrib
[00:01] <cpined> jrib: why do I see "Could not scan folder "/home/xxxxx" or some if the folders it contains. ?
[00:01] <jrib> cpined: probably permissions
[00:02] <cpined> jrib: how can I over come that?  I'd like to see what else is eating up my harddrive.
[00:02] <jrib> cpined: you could run it with gksudo
[00:02] <ChogyDan> cpined: what folder is it? it might be a non issue
[00:03] <jrib> cpined: be forewarned you're giving it sudo privileges to do whatever it wants with your system
[00:03] <ChogyDan> cpined: like gtk something, or glib something
[00:03] <matubaum> Any help, why when I boot from a livecd I have no screen?  Maybe I can change something from the grub many to go to console, instead of trying to start the X server.
[00:04] <Fyodorovna> !nomodeset| matubaum
[00:05] <matubaum> @ubottu, So thanks!
[00:06] <Fyodorovna> !tab|matubaum
[00:07] <matubaum> ubottu: My god!! Thanks again... All this time typing carefully :)
[00:08] <Fyodorovna> Hehe
[00:09] <matubaum> ubottu: You are the best turing's test I've ever seen
[00:10] <Ari-Yang> :|
[00:10] <Fyodorovna> matubaum, generally trigger the bot. ;)
[00:13] <DarkShadow> emmy
[00:17] <loadid_czech> matubaum: what was your display question?
[00:28] <ChogyDan> hmmm, my wifi on my laptop keeps cutting out.  Only thing I can see is in iwconfig, Invalid Misc.  Nothing in dmesg or syslog.
[00:36] <ggherdov> Hello. I am upgrading from 11.04 (natty) to 12.04 (precise) via cmd line (it's an ubuntu server). I downloaded the iso image, mounted it to /media/iso, and then run "sh /media/iso/cdromupgrade".
[00:36] <ggherdov> It complains with "ERROR:root:Bad upgrade: 'natty' != 'oneiric'" and "An upgrade from 'natty' to 'precise' is not supported with this tool."
[00:36] <ggherdov> What can I do?
[00:38] <ggherdov> maybe gotta upgrade to 11.10 (oneiric) before...
[00:39] <OerHeks> ggherdov, correct 11.04 > 11.10 > 12.04
[00:39] <chsados> is 11.04 an LTS?
[00:40] <ggherdov> chsados: nope
[00:40] <OerHeks> no, 10.04 and 12.04 are
[00:40] <chsados> yea you can only go from lts to lts
[00:40] <OerHeks> !eolupgrade
[00:42] <chsados> http://askubuntu.com/questions/200960/how-to-upgrade-ubuntu-11-04-to-12-04
[00:42] <chsados> ggherdov: ^
[00:43] <ggherdov> chsados: oh nice! thankd
[00:46] <Connor> OKay. Running 12.04, under gnome3 with Awn..  Under 10.04 I had to top and bottom panels removed..  I managed to remove the top panel, how do I remove the bottom one that shows all the launched applications ?
[00:47] <dr_willis> you mean in the awn panel?
[00:47] <Connor> no. The original Gnome 3 panels..
[00:48] <Connor> I don't want them.. Im using Awn. :)
[00:48] <dr_willis> I dont recall gnome shell having a botom panel
[00:48] <ggherdov> chsados: OerHeks: those docs suggest the use of do-release-upgrade. My fear is that I will jump from 11.04 to 13.04, which is not what I want (I'd rather like 12.04). I don't see an option in `man do-release-upgrade` to specify the target release. How does the tool can know ?
[00:50] <ggherdov> "do-release-upgrade - upgrade operating system to latest release"  <---- that's how. latest. 13.04
[00:50] <dr_willis> ggherdov:  I think it will go to the next release up.. or the next lts  if you sre on lts
[00:50] <dr_willis> ! 11.04
[00:51] <ggherdov> dr_willis: next release up would be good. whatever, let's try. It's my toy server after all.
[00:51] <dr_willis> the only way to skip a release is by  doing  LTS  to LTS
[00:52] <dr_willis> 11.04  to 11.10  to 12.04lts
[00:53] <ggherdov> dr_willis: thanks. it is actually going to 11.10
[00:54] <dr_willis> 12.04 also has point releases. 12.04.4  I think is the latesr
[00:54] <Connor> Anyone know how to restore the Shutdown / Restart feature to Awn ?  When I choose session, all I can do now is lock screen since upgrading.
[00:56] <fallautumn> lop123
[01:10] <rhalff> what utility can I use to watch a dir and execute a command? dnotify could do it, but cannot find it in raring
[01:11] <wylde> Inotify
[01:12] <rhalff> wylde, thanks :-)
[01:12] <dr_willis> rhalff:    'watch ls -l'   perhaps
[01:12] <dr_willis> or fam
[01:12] <dr_willis> ! info fam
[01:16] <Te3-BloodyIron> trying to use virt-manager with bridged sing macvtap, but the vm cannot ping host, and vice versa
[01:17] <Te3-BloodyIron> how do i correct this?
[01:17] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[01:18] <lotuspsychje> is there an ubuntu certificate that has value to ICT linux job market?
[01:20] <rhalff> dr_willis, I think fam is only a daemon, wylde It detects the writes but how to execute a command? I'm using this: inotifywait -m -r -e modify _posts/  The purpose is to commit everytime I save a blog post :)
[01:22] <wylde> rhalff: unfortunately it was a long while ago I was using it. I honestly don't recall off the top of my head.
[01:22] <rhalff> wylde, ok thanks, there must be something simpler available, will search for it.
[01:27] <wylde> rhalff: inotify-tools package my be useful eg usage: inotifywait -r  -m $HOME would monitor your entire home directory for changes
[01:28] <lotuspsychje> !info incron
[01:28] <lotuspsychje> rhalff: not sure if it does the same as inotify, didnt test myself
[01:28] <rhalff> wylde, already found it, nodemon appearently can also watch non javascript files, doing this now:  nodemon --exec sh ./commit
[01:29] <rhalff> inotify is a bit too low level
[01:29] <wylde> rhalff: alrighty :)
[01:30] <rhalff> along with a automatic refresh plugin for chrome, that makes one advanced realtime markdown site editor for vim :p
[01:30] <lotuspsychje> !info upstart
[01:38] <digitalfiz> hey guys somehow ~/.cache/gdm/session.log filled my 1TB hard drive how can i prevent that in the future?
[01:39] <loadid_czech> digitalfiz: logrotate
[01:39] <digitalfiz> its a 856G file filled with: 18/09/2013 09:32:02 PM Authentication deferred - ignoring client message
[01:40] <pmenon> hey, anyone around ?
[01:41] <dr_willis_> link it to /dev/null  is an extreme  way to stop it
[01:41] <digitalfiz> im just wondering whats causing the error
[01:42] <lotuspsychje> pmenon: 1600 users are :p
[01:42] <xatr0z> digitalfiz: http://askubuntu.com/questions/130768/my-home-partition-slowly-fills-up-until-the-system-is-unable-to-complete-even-si
[01:43] <digitalfiz> xatr0z: im looking at that post now lol
[01:43] <xatr0z> :)
[01:43] <dr_willis_> had a 14 gb log file here once
[01:43] <loadid_czech> ddos attack?
[01:43] <digitalfiz> stupid vnc
[01:44] <loadid_czech> brute force maybe?
[01:44] <lotuspsychje> better lookout wih vnc
[01:44] <dr_willis_> just an xorg log
[01:46] <digitalfiz>  /dev/mapper/ubuntu--vg-root  909G  7.4G  856G   1% /
[01:46] <digitalfiz> much better
[01:46] <lotuspsychje> !yay | digitalfiz
[01:46] <digitalfiz> ill turn vnc off see if it continues
[01:46] <lotuspsychje> digitalfiz: use ssh (over vnc instead)
[01:46] <lotuspsychje> !ssh | digitalfiz
[01:47] <digitalfiz> i spent 90% of my day on several ssh connections :D
[01:47] <digitalfiz> my internet has been slow i wonder if something is targeting my ip
[01:48] <lotuspsychje> digitalfiz: change ip
[01:48] <dr_willis_> try logwatch yet?
[01:48] <lotuspsychje> !info logwatch
[01:48] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis_: is it colored?
[01:49] <dr_willis_> never really noticed.  ;-)
[01:50] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis_: remember you sugested me colortail, well someone sugested me colortail -f /var/log/* to see them all
[01:50] <dr_willis_> logeatch gives a nice summary. not realtime output
[01:50] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis_: lemme try it :p
[01:51] <explodes> Hi guys. Just installed btsync through the command line
[01:51] <explodes> I set it up on port 9007 on my remote server
[01:52] <explodes> When I go to http://mywebsite:9007/gui/ the web page simply says "invalid request"
[01:53] <lotuspsychje> explodes: shouldnt that be 127.0.0 somthing url?
[01:53] <explodes> when do I a curl, locally, "curl localhost:9007/gui/en/index.html -v -L -u username:password" it works just fine… any ideas? my firewall allows ports 9007 and 10001 (the p2p port) in tcp and udp
[01:54] <lotuspsychje> dr_willis_: nice summary on logwatch, any command to realtime it?
[01:54] <explodes> lotuspsychje: Its on a remote server
[01:55] <tharkun> explodes: localhost!=mywebsite netstat -pantu is your weapon of choice
[01:55] <explodes> mywebsite == explod.io
[01:56] <explodes> http://explod.io:9007/gui/ says "invalid request"
[01:57] <lotuspsychje> explodes: nmap your remote server see if port shows open nmap -sV -PN server ip
[01:58] <explodes> (Huh, googling "what is my ip address" returns the ipv6 address now)
[01:59] <explodes> (Just seeing which connection I was, it looks like 2 of you checked out explod.io:9007
[02:00] <al_la> question: installing fglrx broke unity; I uninstalled all fglrx packages, reinstalled stock drivers; I'm on stock open source radeon drivers now.  Graphical login works fine, Unity is still broken so that there is only a desktop with icons.  Thoughts on how to fix this?  I'm all out of googling.
[02:04] <explodes> nmap returned
[02:04] <explodes> it is missing ports for at least 4 of my other services
[02:04] <explodes> 9004, 9005, 9006
[02:04] <explodes> and 10001 shows up as unknown, but 9007 does not
[02:22] <ubuntutis> does anybody know how to get permissions for the opt folder
[02:24] <Stryker> I have an old desktop that still fairly works, and i want to install an OS on it that my mom can use for mainly browsing. It's specs are, iirc, amd athlon 2.x GHz, with an on board video, HDD is i think 80 or 120GB and 1GB RAM, now my question is, what would run better, ubuntu 12.04 or xubuntu 12.04 or are they just the same?
[02:24] <Stryker> I tried installing ubuntu 12.04 on there and it is kinda slow for my likng
[02:24] <Guest35932>  how can I know what is the gateway ip to which I am connected. traceroute just shows me * * * * s ?
[02:25] <bazhang> Stryker, lubuntu
[02:25] <dr_willis_> ubuntutis:  get them? what do you mean.
[02:25] <explodes> I disconnected; any news for me?
[02:25] <bazhang> !lubuntu | Stryker
[02:25] <iancarroll> Guest35942, have you tried ifconfig?
[02:25] <LinuxGold> Huey Lewis and the News.
[02:25] <Stryker> Ok, will check on that
[02:26] <ubuntutis> dr willis i tried sending my aptana icon to opt but it was forbidden i could sent it
[02:26] <ubuntutis> couldnt
[02:26] <ubuntutis> *
[02:26] <dr_willis_> Stryker:   sudo apt-get install lubuntu-desktop   to install it
[02:26] <dhyana> hi all
[02:27] <dr_willis_> ubuntutis:  you need root/sudo rights to alter system files and directories
[02:27] <ubuntutis> so what is the command
[02:27] <marcus> HI, can i ask a virtualbox ubuntu related question here, or is there other  channels ? ................
[02:27] <dr_willis_> !sudo  | ubuntutis
[02:29] <Guest35932> how can I know what is the gateway ip to which I am connected. traceroute just shows me * * * * s ?     and is there a way to show up **** real ips?
[02:29] <iancarroll> Guest35932, have you tried ifconfig?
[02:29] <ChogyDan> Guest35932: ifconfig?
[02:30] <iancarroll> ChogyDan :P
[02:30] <Guest35932> yes
[02:30] <ChogyDan> :)
[02:30] <iancarroll> What was returned?
[02:30] <iancarroll> Were you given * values?
[02:30] <Guest35932> only my ip and mask. not gateway
[02:30] <iancarroll> Ah, sorry. Wrong command.
[02:30] <dr_willis_> how about the route command ?
[02:31] <iancarroll> As stated, route -n should be what you're looking for.
[02:31] <iancarroll> If you need any other help just post it here or message me.
[02:33] <Guest35932> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags Metric Ref    Use Iface
[02:33] <Guest35932> 0.0.0.0         192.168.99.1    0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth0
[02:33] <dhyana> hi iancarroll
[02:35] <Guest35932> iancarroll,  thanks
[02:35] <Guest35932> lastly. is there a way to get rid of * * * * s in traceroute and see the real ips.      i see about 29 ****s and at the last is the real ip of the website i traced routed.
[02:35] <Guest35932> ?
[02:35] <iancarroll> Guest35932, mind pasting your output in pastie?
[02:36] <Guest35932> sure
[02:37] <Guest35932> iancarroll,  http://pastebin.ca/2454551
[02:37] <jp_> hello trying to install ubuntu tweak but getting this error
[02:37] <Stryker> guys one more thing and please correct me if i am wrong. lubuntu and xubuntu are basically the same as ubuntu but withought unity, thus being lightweight? is this idea correct? if not, please do not hesitate to correct it.
[02:37] <jp_> pkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of linux-server:
[02:37] <jp_>  linux-server depends on linux-image-server (= 3.2.0.40.48); however:
[02:37] <jp_>   Version of linux-image-server on system is 3.2.0.53.63.
[02:38] <jp_> tried apt-get install -f but is returning this same thing
[02:38] <xmetal> hmm wrong channel for linux help, jp
[02:38] <Stryker> annnd would wine work on lubuntu?
[02:38] <xmetal> oops
[02:38] <xmetal> n/m
[02:38] <xmetal> my fault, lol
[02:38] <jp_> lol
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> Stryker, They are all alike in the base, not the desktops.
[02:38] <xmetal> channel hoping, got me confused
[02:38] <jp_> was thinking it autojoined somewhere else
[02:38] <jp_> like #win7
[02:38] <jp_> lol
[02:38] <xmetal> lubuntu = lxde desktop + desktop
[02:38] <xmetal> er
[02:38] <Stryker> wilee-nilee i see, so would wine work on lubuntu?
[02:38] <xmetal> dang it
[02:38] <LinuxGold> #DOS
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> jp_, If you run a update do you get these errors?
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> Stryker, sure
[02:39] <xmetal> lubuntu = lxde desktop + Ubuntu ... xubuntu = xfce desktop + ubuntu
[02:39] <Stryker> wilee-nilee thanks a bunch #lubuntu channel is pretty much dead xD
[02:39] <xmetal> (basically0
[02:39] <jp_> wilee-nilee: how do I run update in term pleasE?
[02:39] <wilee-nilee> Stryker, No problem.
[02:40] <Stryker> Downloading now, wew, 30 more minutes -_-
[02:40] <wilee-nilee> jp_, sudo apt-get update  if you get errors pastebin it.
[02:40] <jp_> no errors
[02:40] <wilee-nilee> jp_, Run sudo apt-get upgrade as well
[02:41] <wilee-nilee> jp_, This has a desktop right?
[02:42] <jp_> yes
[02:42] <jp_> http://pastebin.com/VNQ2RQWR
[02:42] <jp_> running server with unity / gnome on top of it for "admin"
[02:42] <meh_> hello, just installed ubuntu 12.04.3 and am having display problems. I tried the nomodeset fix, but that gives a stretched display. Problem with graphics card driver??
[02:43] <wilee-nilee> jp_, Have you added a PPA or installed additional kernels?
[02:44] <jp_> wilee-nilee don't know what PPA is, just occasionally do the updates
[02:44] <iancarroll> meh_, can you be more descriptive of your problems? Disorted display (stretched), not working, etc
[02:44] <jp_> no additional kernels, how would I tell?
[02:45] <wilee-nilee> jp_, I'm not sure why you are showing dependency problems, try sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:47] <meh_> iancarroll_, Yes, when I boot the computer normally, I get to the boot options menu. I continue normally. Then black screen. However I hear the little welcome screen noise where one enters the password. Still black. However, if I press "e" to edit the normal boot and change "quiet splash" to "nomodoset" it boots just fine EXCEPT that the screen display is stretched. So a square icon becomes a rectangle. I read this : http://www.tuxgarage.com
[02:47] <meh_> /2011/01/ubuntumaverick-blank-screen-problem.html
[02:47] <jp_> wilee-nilee http://pastebin.com/b09Qaqg3
[02:48] <wilee-nilee> jp_, try sudo apt-get -f install
[02:48] <Seven_Six_Two> what if you remove quiet and splash but don't add nomodeset?
[02:49] <jp_> wilee-nilee see line 10 of my last pastebin
[02:49] <wilee-nilee> meh_, Have you run a update/upgrade and checked additional drivers?
[02:49] <jp_> did that getting same dependency error
[02:49] <meh_> wilee-nilee_,  went to additional drivers and ran all updates
[02:50] <wilee-nilee> jp_, Ah you did already sorry about that, I'm not sure here.
[02:50] <al_la> Hey all, quick question: I installed fglrx-amdcccle and it broke unity; I uninstalled all fglrx packages, reinstalled stock drivers; I'm on stock open source radeon drivers now.  Graphical login works fine but on login, Unity is still broken so that there is only a desktop with icons.  I see open bugs for this problem but can't find any solution; I'm all out of googling.  Any thoughts?
[02:51] <wilee-nilee> meh_, Can you identify to the channel the graphic info should show in running lspci
[02:51] <jp_> wilee-nilee any additional resources I can read on my own?
[02:51] <Seven_Six_Two> al_la, perhaps you need to fix (or delete) your xorg.conf
[02:51] <wilee-nilee> jp_, Not that I can think of at the moment.
[02:51] <Seven_Six_Two> al_la, try perhaps:    sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:51] <al_la> Seven_Six_Two: in /etc/X11/ I have no xorg.conf
[02:52] <al_la> Seven_Six_Two: I tried the xserver-xorg reconfigure as well
[02:52] <meh_> wilee-nilee_, will try
[02:53] <Seven_Six_Two> al_la, sorry, I misunderstood. reinstall the compiz config package, and reenable the unity module..
[02:53] <Seven_Six_Two> al_la, the unity stuff is a compiz module, except for the desktop iirc
[02:54] <al_la> Seven_Six_Two: I'm still about 94% novice ... apt-get reinstall compiz package or compiz-core?  And how do I reenable unity module?  Thank you btw.
[02:54] <gfredericks> I have this unfamiliar netbook with lubuntu for which I can't get the wifi to work (though it apparently has been); `cat /etc/network/interfaces` shows nothing about wlan0
[02:55] <gfredericks> the hardware switch is on
[02:55] <gfredericks> scratch all that, rebooting worked
[02:55] <cfhowlett> gfredericks, what's the chipset?
[02:55] <cfhowlett> LOL  okay then
[02:56] <gfredericks> cfhowlett: :) thanks
[02:58] <Xeus> I am having an error when attempting to start a specific application, the error is pasted here: http://pastebin.com/iS3170sE
[02:58] <Xeus> It says something about libvlccore.so.5 doesn't exist
[02:58] <Xeus> does anyone here have any experience with this issue?
[02:58] <Guest35932> lastly. is there a way to get rid of * * * * s in traceroute and see the real ips.      i see about 29 ****s and at the last is the real ip of the website i traced routed.
[02:58] <Guest35932> iancarroll,  http://pastebin.ca/2454551
[03:01] <AcidRain2012> i installed a package that came with examples. how can i find out where the package was instqalled to?
[03:01] <arctanx> AcidRain2012: dpkg -L packagename
[03:02] <arctanx> Guest35932: this sometimes happens with UDP traceroutes. Try a tcp one: sudo traceroute -T destination
[03:02] <AcidRain2012> arctanx, the package i installed is Bot::BasicBot, it wont let me look it up
[03:03] <AcidRain2012> dpkg-query: error: architecture name in specifier 'Bot::BasicBot' is illegal: must start with an alphanumeric
[03:03] <arctanx> AcidRain2012: ah you mean a cpan module rather than an ubuntu package
[03:04] <AcidRain2012> arctanx, i didnt install it using cpan. i installed it using sudo apt-get install Bot::BasicBot
[03:04] <AcidRain2012> but yes, a cpan module :)
[03:05] <Guest35932> arctanx,  no. same result with -T
[03:05] <arctanx> AcidRain2012: Interesting, I didn't know apt-get supported that. Nonetheless, I just ran "aptitude search basic | grep -i bot" and found a package " libbot-basicbot-perl            - simple irc bot baseclass"
[03:05] <arctanx> AcidRain2012: try the dpkg again with libbot-basicbot-perl
[03:06] <AcidRain2012> arctanx, actually your right. im sry. i did install it using libbot-basicbot-perl
[03:06] <jp_> wilee-nilee entering command dpkg --remove linux-server
[03:06] <Seven_Six_Two> al_la, I'm not using Ubuntu on this pc, but I think the package name contains "ccsm" that you should install and run. From there, ccsm lists all the available compiz modules and it's easy to figure out. just check the "enable" box
[03:06] <arctanx> AcidRain2012: makes more sense :)
[03:07] <arctanx> Guest35932: You might be out of luck sorry. Not all routers will reply to traceroutes
[03:07] <jp_> wilee-nilee: entering command sudo dpkg --remove linux-server, then sudo apt-get -f install, and it works good
[03:07] <wilee-nilee> jp_, Cool good job.
[03:07] <Seven_Six_Two> al_la, you'll also need the main compiz packages, so install anything that's named compiz without dev or dbg
[03:07] <jp_> trying the sudo apt-get dist-upgrade now, hoping it allows me to install the tweaker
[03:08] <jp_> I bet this was related to running out of space on /boot
[03:08] <wilee-nilee> jp_, You have a boot partition?
[03:08] <rawfodog> I have full disk encryption on my hd. At boot I have to enter a password to unlock it. How do I change this password
[03:08] <jp_> why the hell that partition is so small... need to fix that too
[03:08] <jp_> I think so, because that was the initial reason I wanted to tweak program
[03:09] <wilee-nilee> jp_, Generally a boot partition is not needed, I have never had one in 7 years
[03:09] <jp_> hrrm
[03:09] <wilee-nilee> jp_, Ubuntu tweak is an easy way to clean kernels with a gui though
[03:10] <jp_> how would I get rid of boot partition, for a newb?
[03:11] <cjwelborn> I just spent 2 hours debugging a package upgrade problem. the cause was a python2.7 executable in /usr/local/bin (not sure how it got there), that ran without any good config. When the postinst python scripts ran, they were using this executable and dpkg was spitting out all these errors. I got rid of it because I already have one in /usr/bin that works. I was finally able to upgrade everything.
[03:11] <Guest35932> archigos,  no solution?
[03:11] <Guest35932> arctanx,  what do you mean by reply.  my gateware replies me for a ping request
[03:14] <LinuxGold> how do I add vga=0x031b to grub?
[03:15] <arctanx> Guest35932: your gateway does, yes. To get a complete traceroute to our chosen destination you are requiring every hop along the way to send you an ICMP message when the TTL expires. Many routers on the internet are configured so that they won't send those messages.
[03:16] <LinuxGold> there are howto that instructs to use menu.lst -- isn't that old right?
[03:17] <Dr_Willis> LinuxGold:  any guide that says to use menu.lst is very old
[03:17] <Dr_Willis> i dont even think the kernel supports the vga=XXXXX options any more
[03:17] <cfhowlett> LinuxGold, old news, no longer valid.
[03:18] <LinuxGold> alright.
[03:18] <LinuxGold> thanks
[03:18] <Dr_Willis>   /etc/default/grub  may have some mode options i recall
[03:18] <Dr_Willis> or use the frramebuffer settings tools like fbset
[03:18] <[1]Roach> Hi everyone
[03:19] <LinuxGold> checking fbset out
[03:21] <fahadash> hey all
[03:21] <Guest39238> samba question can I use ".nogroup" as a group with users in it or should I make a new group then add users to it?
[03:21] <wilee-nilee> Don't forget tomorrow the 19th is talk like a pirate day "public announcement"
[03:21] <fahadash> I just watched quite a few videos on ubuntu and it has turned me into a believer now
[03:21] <ObrienDave> arrrrgh, matey. oops, a little too soon? ;)
[03:22] <wilee-nilee> Heh its the 19th somewhere
[03:22] <fahadash> I am currently in process of replacing windows 7 from my home computer with ubuntu 12 LTS
[03:22] <fahadash> Does any of you think I will regret it ?
[03:23] <wilee-nilee> fahadash, I dual boot windows and I started on open source.
[03:23] <jp_> fahadash - yeah I Think you will.
[03:23] <ObrienDave> i would suggest setting it up aa a dual boot until you get used to Ubuntu
[03:23] <fahadash> jp_: Explain
[03:23] <ObrienDave> *as
[03:23] <jp_> If you like tinkering you will have fun. So manythings in windows "just work"
[03:23] <Dr_Willis> fahadash:  Totally depends on your needs
[03:24] <jp_> and ubuntu while coming a long way, still needs a lot lot LOT of tweaking to get things the way you want / need.
[03:24] <cfhowlett> fahadash, how would we know?  obviously depends on your expectations, needs and existing skill set.
[03:24] <fahadash> on my home computer all I do is Skype, Internet browsing for fun such as videos, social media;
[03:24] <Dr_Willis> ive had so many things in windows  'just break in the worse possible way'  ;) and been suprised at how many things  in Ubuntu  'just work' better
[03:24] <Dr_Willis> !skype
[03:25] <jp_> dr_willis: no doubt! everyone's experience is different, and also needs too.
[03:25] <hipitihop_> anyone here familiar with lxc and know if there is a way to limit the number of cores for a container ?
[03:25] <fahadash> can we get google chrome on ubuntu ?
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> fahadash:  biggest challenge will be to unlearn the windows-mindset
[03:25] <ObrienDave> yes
[03:25] <Dr_Willis> fahadash:  of course
[03:25] <hipitihop_> fahadash, yes
[03:25] <jp_> fahadash, whats wrong with a virtualbox or vmware version of what you want to do.
[03:25] <jp_> ?
[03:26]  * fahadash hates dual-boot
[03:26] <fahadash> dual boot to me is like living two different identities
[03:26] <Dr_Willis> i dual boot for games is abouit all i do.
[03:26] <Dr_Willis> even then i have a lubuntu install in virtualbox  on the windows side
[03:26] <jp_> that way you're not committed entirely and also no dual boot
[03:26] <wilee-nilee> MS Word is my weakness
[03:27] <fahadash> i don't want crappy and slow windows to host a fast operating system which might be blamed for windows' failures
[03:27] <Dr_Willis> heh - im at a stage where all the word processing i need. i can do in abiword
[03:27]  * jp_ she's ded jim!
[03:27] <ObrienDave> LibreOffice does everything I need to do
[03:27] <jp_> so.. about getting rid of my boot partition...
[03:28] <wilee-nilee> The grad papers I have to write have all kinds of code that can be done basically in libre probably, but I have to send them to readers running word, I want no mistakes is all.
[03:28] <LinuxGold> editing /etc/default/grub got it fixed.
[03:28] <fahadash> jp_ and all other guys who don't want me to lose windows altogether, I made a clonezilla image of my system in case i regret, but I have had enough of win7 slowing me down on everything
[03:28] <LinuxGold> thanks everyone.
[03:29] <fahadash> Is Ubuntu 13.04 stable now ? I wonder how hard would it be to upgrade from 12 LTS to 13.04
[03:29] <cfhowlett> wilee-nilee, seen this?  http://www.kingsoftstore.com/download-office
[03:29] <ObrienDave> fahadash, 13.10 will be out in about a month
[03:29] <fahadash> I actually have been running ubuntu out of a USB key for about 10 days (You know with the Try Ubuntu option) not realizing I have already divorced Windows
[03:30] <cfhowlett> fahadash, think what you're doing.  yes, 13.04 is stable or it wouldn't be in release.  BUT  12.04 is supported for 5 years.   13.04 is NOT.
[03:30] <fahadash> ObrienDave, Would that be an easy task to upgrade to 13.10 ?
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> cfhowlett, I use that on my nexus and smart phone, Never messed with in ubuntu though, I will check it out, thanks.
[03:32] <fahadash> I think the reason with 8 gb ram and 300 gigs of free space and 2.5 ghz win7 still work slow is because most of the windows components are no more closer to the wire and they keep getting crappier every release
[03:32] <Ari-Yang> fahadash, you'll be upgrading from 13.04 to 13.10 next month I think... You'll upgrade from 12.04 LTS to 14.04 LTS in April 2014
[03:32] <ObrienDave> fahadash, i haven't had many problems keeping up with the latest versions. some people swear by the LTS versions though
[03:32] <fahadash> Ari-Yang: How do I upgrade ?
[03:33] <Ari-Yang> it's easy, through the software updater on ubuntu or running the upgrade command
[03:33] <fahadash> What does LTS stands for ? I am not good at acronyms
[03:33] <Ari-Yang> long time support
[03:33] <cfhowlett> ObrienDave, count me as an LTS only user.  newer versions are nice, but I prefer my upgrade/install headaches to come only every 2 years.  That said, the last 2 upgrades went as smooth as a baby's behind
[03:33] <ObrienDave> long term support
[03:33] <fahadash> Is ubuntu made in Australia ?
[03:33] <cfhowlett> !lts|fahadash,
[03:33] <Ari-Yang> fahadash, if you don't want to upgrade every few months and rather long time support, use LTS... so now you'd use 12.04
[03:33] <cfhowlett> fahadash, ubuntu developers are worldwide
[03:34] <Ari-Yang> !upgrade | fahadash
[03:34] <fahadash> Thank you guys
[03:34] <fahadash> I am 80% sure I won't miss windows
[03:34] <ObrienDave> cfhowlett, yep, so i gathered ;))
[03:35] <Ari-Yang> fahadash, are you a gamer?....
[03:35] <Ari-Yang> fahadash, you should also make sure that whatever software/programs you use on windows is available on ubuntu, at least equivalents...
[03:35] <xmetal> still (when i do get a distro of Ubuntu) debating which version i'd download
[03:35] <fahadash> Ari-Yang: Nope, just a normal computer user, Do lot of skype-chatting, take a lot of pictures and keep them in my computer, be on social media most of the time
[03:36] <Ari-Yang> fahadash, oh, well in that case, you should be fine on ubuntu then
[03:36] <Ari-Yang> xmetal, if you don't want to upgrade every few months, just get LTS....
[03:36] <fahadash> If this works out, I will explore the possibilities of installing Ubuntu mobile on my windows phone
[03:36] <cfhowlett> xmetal, choose one.  if you want to try others, do this:  install, say, ubuntu.  Oh wait!  You want to taste lubuntu?  install lxde.  or xfce4.  that way you can see the look and feel without reinstalling multiples.  OR get the other distros and put them in virtualbox.
[03:36] <Ari-Yang> personally, I would've installed LTS on this laptop if I was more aware back then
[03:37] <ObrienDave> fahadash, what you really need to decide is if there are any Windows programs that you absolutely need to have.
[03:37] <fahadash> ObrienDave, Skype and Norton Antivirus
[03:37] <Ari-Yang> Norton-LOL XD
[03:37] <fahadash> !ubuntu | norton
[03:37] <ObrienDave> skype is available
[03:37] <cfhowlett> !virus|fahadash,
[03:38] <fahadash> why do I not need antivirus ?
[03:38] <Ari-Yang> read the page, fahadash...
[03:38] <fahadash> ok
[03:38] <cfhowlett> fahadash, read the page!
[03:38] <Ari-Yang> first off fahadash you should've be using Norton anyway....
[03:38] <Ari-Yang> no matter what you use.....
[03:38] <ObrienDave> there is ClamAV
[03:38] <jp_> m'fer, getting this low disk space error now "The filesystem root has only 1.1GB remaining..."
[03:38] <xmetal> I am just thinking (just say Firefox for an example) that if I go with LTS, i will be stuck with old versions of Firefox ... if i understand correctly .. the software doesn't "upgrade" (say versus 13.10 when it's released) but there are security upgrades to LTS releases
[03:38] <fahadash> what do you mean ? Do you advise against Norton ?
[03:39] <xmetal> lol i think i just confused myself
[03:39] <ObrienDave> xmetal, us also LOL
[03:39] <jp_> lol fahadash. if you get norton installed on ubuntu
[03:39] <cfhowlett> jp_, time to clean up?  sudo apt-get clean && sudo apt-get autoremove && sudo apt-get autoclean will clear out old packages
[03:39] <Ari-Yang> fahadash, this is off topic but yeah, you should ditch Norton and use MSE (microsoft security essentials)
[03:39] <xmetal> I am a dual booter with various PC's (and various Distros of Linux) and WIndows and I'd never use Norton
[03:39] <jp_> you have got to be baiting thies chan
[03:40] <Ari-Yang> xmetal, I think you can update FireFox to its latest versions just fine on LTS....
[03:40] <cfhowlett> xmetal, sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will grab newer packages.  Also, enable backports to capture packages that way that have been enabled for older ubuntu versions
[03:40] <fahadash> I like the Reason # 6 there arent very many linux viruses
[03:41] <xmetal> oh really? ... in that case (even counting 13.10 releasing soon) i may go with 12.04 LTS
[03:41] <Ari-Yang> xmetal, what card do you have? you using desktop or laptop?
[03:41] <xmetal> or if 14.04 will be LTS i MAY just wait until then
[03:41] <cfhowlett> xmetal, and be aware: the next LTS is 14.04 next year
[03:41] <Ari-Yang> fahadash, what card do you have? and are you on a laptop or desktop?
[03:41] <crunchbang> wow crunchbang is really light
[03:41] <xmetal> exactly
[03:41] <fahadash> laptop
[03:41] <cfhowlett> !ot|crunchbang,
[03:42] <Ari-Yang> fahadash, what card?....
[03:42] <crunchbang> ok
[03:42] <fahadash> I don't know what is card
[03:42] <Ari-Yang> gpu
[03:42] <Ari-Yang> graphics
[03:42] <Ari-Yang> nVidia or amd radeon?, fahadash
[03:42] <fahadash> I dont know, Intel or NVidia something
[03:42] <Ari-Yang> oh, you should find out....
[03:42] <fahadash> Its an HP Pavillion
[03:42] <CensoredBiscuit> isnt using "sudo /bin/su" more secure than "su" for some reason?
[03:42] <fahadash> why ? Does ubunto work only on certain cards ?
[03:43] <xmetal> This pc runs another (ot, i know) distro that is a "ubuntu cousin" just fine (except for one of the many distro managers)
[03:43] <xmetal> oops
[03:43] <cfhowlett> fahadash, some cards support linux.  some don't
[03:43] <xmetal> desktop Managers i meant
[03:43] <xmetal> DE's
[03:43] <xmetal> w/e
[03:43] <Ari-Yang> fahadash, if it's radeon, then you /might/ have to use kernel 3.11 (easy to install) to utilize DPM (dynamic power management), without it the open source drivers will run your laptop hot likely. And ATI's private drivers aren't that great.
[03:43] <xmetal> lol
[03:43] <FloodBot1> xmetal: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:43] <fahadash> But I see the setup utility just fine, and the "Try Ubuntu" worked through the USB key
[03:43] <xmetal> sorry, FloodBot
[03:43] <cfhowlett> fahadash, then relax and enjoy
[03:44] <Ari-Yang> fahadash, this laptop I have is a radeon hd5400 and I'm  using kernel 3.11 myself so it doesn't overheat....
[03:44] <xmetal>  even before i used linux as much as I do now, many of the programs I use all the time are cross-platform
[03:44] <fahadash> wow
[03:44] <Ari-Yang> fahadash, okay then, you should be fine...
[03:44] <fahadash> Do I have to be a real nerd to be able to use Ubuntu properly ?
[03:44] <Ari-Yang> not really...
[03:44] <xmetal> Libre office, VLC, Firefox, just for a few examples and others I am 100% comfortable with the Linux alternatives
[03:44] <Ari-Yang> it's a learning curve...
[03:45] <fahadash> Never in my life I stuck a thermometer in my computer's ass to see how how it is
[03:45] <Ari-Yang> fahadash, what made you choose ubuntu distro? did you look into any other Linux distros? openSUSE for e.g.
[03:45] <xmetal> not really, Ubuntu is one of the better "first distros" for new users
[03:45] <cfhowlett> fahadash,  no, but you DO to accept responsibility for managing your own system
[03:45] <IdleOne> !language | fahadash
[03:45] <xmetal> I had Suse 9.3, though all I have tried with the new OpenSUSe is in vm
[03:46] <fahadash> Ari-Yang: All those nice and cool videos online, specially Nixie Pixel's youtube channel... And I tried it using USB Key version
[03:46] <xmetal> that last part of that sentence didn't make sense
[03:46] <Guest35932> arctanx,  is there a work around?
[03:46] <zykotick9> CensoredBiscuit: DON'T use sudo with su!  BAD idea...
[03:46] <xmetal> lol sorry
[03:46] <Guest35932> for what you said
[03:46] <CensoredBiscuit> but why is /bin/su a better idea zykotick9?
[03:46] <Guest35932> archigos,  well even if some dont allow to pass the message.  those who do, should be shown instead of *****
[03:47] <zykotick9> CensoredBiscuit: it's NOT.  if you need su, use a different distro...
[03:47] <CensoredBiscuit> zykotick9: why? whats so different about ubuntu that makes su so much more dangerous
[03:48] <Ari-Yang> CensoredBiscuit, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1807678
[03:48] <zykotick9> !noroot | CensoredBiscuit
[03:48] <Ari-Yang> CensoredBiscuit, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo you can also take a look at that too
[03:48] <fahadash> Ari-Yang, xmetal, cfhowlett- Well, Windows has always been advertised as a "Fire and Forget" Operating System... When I saw ubuntu, I saw the same thing in there with more promising attitutde... So as much as I would love to know the details; I want to stay away from going to BASH just to run my music or watch youtube videos
[03:48] <CensoredBiscuit> zykotick9: I'm not setting a root password.
[03:49] <jp_> cfhowlett, thanks freed up 303 kb lol
[03:49] <Ari-Yang> ....iirc I've used su myself, CensoredBiscuit, and I think I was just a root in the terminal
[03:49] <xmetal> Linux is a learning curve, no matter what distro .... though there are other distro's (I always get "your OT when i say them", lol) that are a "steeper curve" if you ask me
[03:49] <cfhowlett> fahadash, hey, uh, maybe it's time for you to, oh I don't know, INSTALL something so you can see for yourself?
[03:49] <Ari-Yang> like it's a root terminal...I think
[03:49] <zykotick9> CensoredBiscuit: learn to use sudo... or don't use ubuntu...  seems pretty clear.  su is out-of-bounds.
[03:49] <fahadash> cfhowlett: What is "something" ?
[03:49] <xmetal> heck with live distro's you can "try before you install"
[03:49] <cfhowlett> jp_, well that's something.  sorry, I hoped you had a messy closet but it seems you don't .
[03:50] <cfhowlett> fahadash, install ubuntu.  find out what it does.
[03:50] <fahadash> correct
[03:50] <CensoredBiscuit> Ari-Yang: can I pm?
[03:50] <cfhowlett> fahadash, or, "You can't learn to swim if you don't get wet."
[03:50] <zykotick9> CensoredBiscuit: use "sudo -i" if you really "need" a root terminal.  if you do, you're probably doing something wrong.
[03:50] <Ari-Yang> CensoredBiscuit, if you run su, you're root, sudo is root for that command... sure pm
[03:50] <fahadash> lol, that is correct
[03:50] <fahadash> !help skype
[03:50] <cfhowlett> !skype
[03:51] <fahadash> Installation Complete, rebooting my new 12.04 LTS now
[03:51] <fahadash> Wish me luck
[03:51] <cfhowlett> fahadash, enjouy
[03:52] <fahadash> oh crap
[03:53] <fahadash> "Installation complete, click Reboot", I clicked reboot, while it was shutting down I removed the installation media USB
[03:53] <fahadash> Now its showing that Wait cursor for quite some time
[03:54] <arayaq> fahadash: In the best of cases just power off
[03:54] <jp_> cfhowlett: ubuntu tweak looks like it found a bunch of packages too. wonder why the CLI commands didn't kill them
[03:54] <Ari-Yang> fahadash, so you deleted your entire windows?
[03:54] <cfhowlett> jp_, I've never used/trusted anything called "tweak"
[03:54] <Ari-Yang> oh you used USB installer
[03:54] <fahadash> Ari-Yang; Yes
[03:54] <jp_> :p
[03:54] <zykotick9> cfhowlett: +1 ;)
[03:55] <fahadash> I deleted Entire windows ; but I made a clonezilla image on a separate hard-drive before doing that.
[03:55] <jp_> thanks, was recommended here last time I tried to solve this issue
[03:55] <fahadash> Boots a lot faster than windows
[03:58] <cfhowlett> !bot
[03:58] <Dr_Willis> get a ssd hard drive if you want fast boots
[03:59] <jp_> night night all, it's asking for a reboot so going to call it a night. thanks sooo much
[04:03] <xmetal> back
[04:03] <fahadash> !skype
[04:03] <fahadash> URL is giving me a 404
[04:03] <xmetal> come to think of it, i think waiting for 14.04 LTS may be "smarter"
[04:04] <ubuntutis> can anybody here give me advice on programming languages
[04:04] <fahadash> Found the problem, capital S-kype
[04:04] <fahadash> ubuntutis: C++
[04:04] <cfhowlett> xmetal, if you install 12.04 now, you can auto-update to 14.04 later .. although I've found download/clean install to be the more reliable practice.
[04:05] <ubuntutis> fahadash what would be  a few programming languages to create  a chatbox for a panel in my website
[04:05] <xmetal> true ... if i am "starting fresh"  (would try it in VM first) ... I'd probably opt to get 14.04 and 'clean install" it
[04:06] <cfhowlett> xmetal, either way, taste the rainbow
[04:06] <xmetal> i may get both LTS ISO's when 14.04 comes out anyway
[04:06] <xmetal> (not on high speed all the time, here)
[04:06] <xmetal> brb
[04:12] <fahadash> ubuntutis: There are several open source Webchat plugins for PHP and ASP.NET that I know of
[04:12] <fahadash> sleep time,
[04:14] <arshavin> can anybody help me with my AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint TouchPad touchpad;the cursor turns slow and unresponsive after connecting to internet via usb cable and nokia phone
[04:19] <freechode> Hallo
[04:20] <freechode> I tried to install xubuntu from synaptic  to have a lighter OS running and  ended up mesing up my install of ubuntu.. for some reason it still ran ubuntu and xubuntu until i tried to upgrade to 12.04 from i think 9.10
[04:20] <freechode> and now uses xubuntu  splash screen and when i try to login to  a ubuntu session says "Session failed: ubuntu:" or some shiz
[04:20] <cfhowlett> freechode, as 9.10 is end of life, you'll find it difficult to upgrade.  best bet is to download 12.04 and clean install
[04:20] <freechode> will i have to wipe the drive
[04:21] <freechode> i  a bit computer thick
[04:21] <freechode> lo
[04:21] <cfhowlett> freechode, no, just format the /filesystem.
[04:22] <faza> hello
[04:26] <xmetal> back
[04:27] <arayaq> xmetal: wb
[04:28] <sf_> anu
[04:40] <darth_damian_000> I removed pulseaudio in hopes of having alsa mixer take over my sound duties. Speaker icon disappeared from panel, lost all sound. Tried alsamixer in terminal, maxed everything out, and still no sound. Reinstalled pulseaudio, still no speaker icon and no sound whatsoever. Using ubuntu 12.04 LTS. Can anyone advise?
[04:42] <snql> Pu.psh.sAddia...u..psh..
[04:42] <meltingwax> i accidentally clicked yes on the prompt to 'install Gmail for additional features etcetc'. How can I remove it now?
[04:49] <wilee-nilee> meltingwax, when was the prompt?
[04:50] <freechode> PC load letter, wtfs that mean?
[04:50] <wilee-nilee> freechode, Do not use swearing acronyms please this is a worldwide family channel.
[04:52] <freechode> sowwy :(
[04:52] <xmetal> ok going back to studying circuitry analysis for a bit
[04:53] <xmetal> (staying in the channel)
[04:53] <meltingwax> wilee-nilee: in firefox
[04:53] <meltingwax> wilee-nilee: when i logged into gmail
[04:54] <wilee-nilee> meltingwax, Is it an addon maybe look there.
[04:54] <cfhowlett> meltingwax, firefox addons under Tools
[04:55] <meltingwax> wilee-nilee: cfhowlett: thanks, that did the trick
[04:55] <sun_fengxiang> opensuse using  swap of ubuntu
[04:56] <sun_fengxiang> what should i do
[04:56] <wilee-nilee> sun_fengxiang, A swap is a swap.
[04:58] <wilee-nilee> sun_fengxiang, Your not hibernating one then booting another are you?
[05:00] <sun_fengxiang> wilee-nilee, i know
[05:01] <dhyana> Hi
[05:01] <dhyana> Anyone from India ?
[05:01] <wilee-nilee> dhyana, You were told by a mod to stop that with a last warning, they will ban you.
[05:01] <kostkon> !in | dhyana
[05:01] <sun_fengxiang> them can't woking  at the same time
[05:01] <dhyana> I'm sorry
[05:01] <dhyana> I'm new to irc
[05:02] <dhyana> What's a ban mean ?
[05:02] <cfhowlett> !codeofconduct|dhyana,
[05:02] <wilee-nilee> dhyana, You will not have access.
[05:02] <sun_fengxiang> me ,too  second  for irc
[05:02] <dhyana> Ok
[05:03] <dhyana> sun_fengxiang:
[05:03] <dhyana> Sorry
[05:03] <wilee-nilee> dhyana, If you want to chat though there is #ubuntu-offtopic check it out. ;)
[05:04] <babinlonston> Installed a Chat messenger called Spark and now i want to make it run while system bootsup what i need to do
[05:04] <sun_fengxiang> sorry , my English   very bad
[05:04] <cfhowlett> babinlonston, look in your system settings for startup programs
[05:04] <wilee-nilee> sun_fengxiang, So a shared swap is normal, I have multiple OS's here all sharing one swap.
[05:05] <babinlonston> cfhowlett: startup application is there but there is not command to execute to run this sprak then how can i add it
[05:06] <cfhowlett> babinlonston, you should be able add a program to the startups.  sorry, I can't be more exact as I'm on xubuntu ... little bit different
[05:06] <babinlonston> k
[05:07] <sun_fengxiang> wilee-nilee,thanks
[05:07] <wilee-nilee> babinlonston, Many will start with just the name added, otherwise you can do a path to it start, probably in bin or sbin
[05:07] <wilee-nilee> it's
[05:08] <tomc603> Hello all, I am running Ubuntu 13.10 (not a novice or new user) and I've noticed that for several weeks now the indicator-messages indicator does not turn blue when I receive a new IM in Empathy.
[05:08] <wilee-nilee> sun_fengxiang, No problem.
[05:08] <tomc603> Any tips on where I could look to find out what is going on?
[05:08] <cfhowlett> tomc603, indicator settings/preferences?
[05:08] <wilee-nilee> tomc603, You want the #ubuntu+1 channel for 13.10
[05:09] <wilee-nilee> maybe that fixes it though
[05:09] <tomc603> Yeah, I figured I'd try in here, because I don't necessarily think this problem is 13.10 specific...just figured I'd mention pertinent info
[05:13] <tomc603> cfhowlett, I don't know of any other preferences other that in dconf-editor. "empathy.desktop" is listed there, so I'd expect this all to work. :)
[05:13] <cfhowlett> tomc603, ask in this channel.  someone else will know.  Xubuntu has a different setup, so I can't be more helpful.
[05:14] <tomc603> cfhowlett, Thanks anyway!
[05:15] <wilee-nilee> tomc603, might be some info here. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=empathy+indicator-messages+indicator
[05:16] <joufflu> is there a mysql channel?
[05:16] <reisio> joufflu: yes
[05:16] <dr_willis> !alis
[05:16] <joufflu> reisio: grazi
[05:16] <tomc603> wilee-nilee, Lots of those are either ancient and do not apply to 12.04+, or are un-answered.
[05:17] <wilee-nilee> tomc603, Yeah I just started to look through seems that way.
[05:18] <tomc603> Unfortunate. I haven't reinstalled for 2 or 3 upgrades and really didn't want to have to just for such a trivial issue. But I suspect other packages have been dropped or are config-rotten now.
[05:20] <wilee-nilee> tomc603, You can fresh install with saved package list and any ppa, anddo it faster in general once you get used to it, and maybe have a seperate home.
[05:22] <wilee-nilee> who was that masked helper
[05:22] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[05:23] <tomc603> wilee-nilee, I presume this would be by using dpkg --get-selections?
[05:24] <wilee-nilee> tomc603, yeah, that be it, you can even load it to synaptic, I just save a cre extras liost and the ppa's myself.
[05:25] <wilee-nilee> core*
[05:26] <wilee-nilee> You just need to save the keys to the ppa's as well, and make sure they have a version for the release.
[05:27] <tomc603> I'll have to look up some of the finer details of using get and set selections to do this right. There is a bit of cruft in my get-selections list of the deinstall variety.
[05:28] <wilee-nilee> tomc603, It took me a bit of working with it to get it streanmed lined, but not that much, saves about 3 hours here and I have a fresh install.
[05:29] <tomc603> Yeah, three hours is what I'd call worth while. :)
[05:30] <marcus> HI, anyone know an alternative way of writing [0-9]{0,3} in regex? see, i have sub{"[0-9]{0,3}"} which interfers which sub.............
[05:31] <reisio> #regex
[05:31] <marcus> ok
[05:32] <tomc603> Thanks for the ideas so far. I'm off for now.
[05:33] <wilee-nilee> tomc603, No problem good luck
[05:36] <SupaSol> Hello here
[05:37] <cfhowlett> SupaSol, greetings
[06:09] <acer> hello
[06:09] <reisio> I miss acer
[06:20] <bombev> hi
[06:21] <bombev> I am running Ubuntu Linux 12.04.1 is there some manual to show me how to configure two ISP and to switch it via ssh?
[06:25] <bishisht> is there any one who can tell me how to update only some of the packages
[06:27] <bishisht> is there any one here?
[06:27] <reisio> bishisht: you are here
[06:27] <cfhowlett> bishisht, might be a good question for #ubuntu-server.  sounds like the kind of thing they might do.
[06:29] <bishisht> but im using ubuntu 13.04
[06:32] <cfhowlett> bombev, might be a good question for #ubuntu-server.  sounds like the kind of thing they might do.
[06:44] <choia1> great :) is there a sort of multigrep? i want to highlight in different colors output that matches several patterns. is there such tool?
[06:45] <XMLnewbi> I did sudo apt-get install python-software-properties and im still getting the error, apt-add-repository: command not found
[06:46] <RageYL> hi
[06:47] <reisio> hio
[06:47] <somsip> choia1: just grep -e 'pattern1' -e 'pattern2' etc...
[06:47] <RageYL> i am still on my vpn connection problem and i am trying to diagnostic what is the problem. Is it normal that i can't ping my server ?
[06:49] <guerrero> Hello, I trying to build an Ubuntu system from the source. Can anybody point out any helpful resource to get started?
[06:49] <RageYL> (i connect to it with an identity file)
[06:51] <guerrero> anybody active?
[06:52] <somsip> guerrero: you want to compile each package from source? why?
[06:53] <KI7MT> guerrero, You'll probably want to bootstrap the initial toolset / toolchain .. debootstrap is your best option there.
[06:54] <xmetal> hmm i have to admit i am curious and probably going to try archlinux soon and i haved used Slackware (and still do) but NOT having to complie from source is one of the reasons for distro's like Ubuntu
[06:54] <guerrero> somsip: I am working on a research project that requires me to make changes to the OS. After the changes, need to build and run it up through a simulator.
[06:54] <KI7MT> guerrero, This should get you going in the right direction: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/installation-guide/powerpc/linux-upgrade.html
[06:54] <KI7MT> it's for powerpc., but steps are about same.
[06:54] <somsip> guerrero: changes to Ubuntu, or changes to any OS? Look at LFS maybe,,,
[06:55] <KI7MT> Bootstrapping Debian and Ubuntu is easy, and is probably the best way to work things without going into then VM world.
[06:55] <guerrero> somsip: LFS is too barebones for this one. I am keen on Ubuntu 12.04 for various reasons.
[06:56] <somsip> guerrero: well, you're well ouside the scope of support provided here, but it seems like KI7MT knows more about this so I shall leave you with you both
[06:56] <KI7MT> Yep, I ahve an LFS toolchain on my Ubuntu box right now, use it for cross-compiling mingw64
[06:57] <KI7MT> Whoops sri, didn't mean to go OT or anything. debootstrap is Ubuntu though.
[06:57] <CosmicB> guerrero if you're going to tinker with kernel source and rebuild, if it really doesn't matter which OS it is I'd take  look at FreeBSD. I'm not a big FreeBSD fan, but I have not seen any Linux distro able to make recompiling the kernel as easy as in FreeBSD
[06:57] <KI7MT> Slack 14.0 is nice too.
[06:58] <guerrero> KI7MT: I'll check out the link and be back.
[06:58] <guerrero> CosmicB: thanks, I'll check if it suits my needs.
[06:58] <KI7MT> you can PM me if needed have loads of info on debootstrap, that way we keep it out of the channel.
[06:59] <xmetal> true
[06:59] <drfaustus> i 've got this message at startup"press skip to skip mounting or M for manual recovery",here r mtab,fstab,   http://dpaste.com/1387266/
[06:59] <xmetal> was on 12.2 for awhile ... recently upgrade to 14.0
[07:00] <drfaustus>  i 've got this message at startup"press S to skip mounting or M for manual recovery",here r mtab,fstab,   http://dpaste.com/1387266/
[07:01] <KI7MT> Just for info, and those interested, debootstrap is a nice way to run UBuntu say 12.10 or 13.04 without VM, and when your done, just delete the folder. I do UB-QA build testing that way.
[07:01] <somsip> drfaustus: dying or disconnected drive? Something in fstab that isn't really there?
[07:02] <drfaustus> somsip,sda1,sda5  r not mounter
[07:02] <drfaustus> mounted*
[07:03] <somsip> drfaustus: fuseblk? I have no idea. Did it work before?
[07:04] <drfaustus>  somsip,it wsa working fine
[07:04] <KI7MT> When the bootstrap is done, you can add whatever desktop you want, lubuntu-desktop gnome-desktop, etcetc with same apt-get install .. .. ..
[07:04] <somsip> drfaustus: is it a physical drive?
[07:04] <KI7MT> Whoops sri, wrong window :-)
[07:05] <drfaustus> yea,ntfs media ,somsip
[07:06] <somsip> drfaustus: so back to the first question - dying or disconnected drive?
[07:06] <drfaustus> somsip,i don't no what that means
[07:07] <somsip> drfaustus: is the drive dying? Is there any evidence that it is not available for any other reason?
[07:07] <drfaustus> somsip,it's connected and shown in filesystem side pannel
[07:08] <drfaustus> somsip,it's available and can b manually mounted using gparted
[07:15] <TomyLobo> hi
[07:16] <reisio> hio
[07:16] <TomyLobo> I put a package on hold, but muon software update still offers to update it.
[07:16] <TomyLobo> How do I tell it not to?
[07:16] <bazhang> pinning
[07:16] <TomyLobo> hrm
[07:17] <TomyLobo> isnt holding meant for that?
[07:17] <bazhang> !pinning | TomyLobo
[07:17] <TomyLobo> that talks about pinning to releases (hardy, intrepid) mine are both from the same PPA
[07:18] <bazhang> TomyLobo, then you should mention PPA
[07:18] <TomyLobo> sorry
[07:18] <bazhang> you want the PPA or not
[07:19] <TomyLobo> well i guess i could just remove it since that's the only thing from it
[07:19] <bazhang> use ppa-purge then
[07:19] <bazhang> !ppa-purge | TomyLobo
[07:20] <TomyLobo> purge? that sounds harsh... i'd just remove the file for it under sources.list.d and apt-get update
[07:21] <maxb> You need ppa-purge if you don't want to have to manually chase down the packages that you need to downgrade back to main-archive versions
[07:21] <wilee-nilee> purge will remove the ppa package if there is a version in the ubuntu repos
[07:21] <TomyLobo> there's just one package from there
[07:21] <TomyLobo> and i want to keep it in the same version it is right now
[07:21] <bazhang> TomyLobo, thats the very best way to do it, what you choose is up to you
[07:21] <wilee-nilee> TomyLobo, You can lock installs in synaptic.
[07:22] <TomyLobo> wilee-nilee: is that the same as "hold" in aptitude?
[07:22] <TomyLobo> if so, then it doesnt work
[07:22] <bazhang> TomyLobo, if you purge it , it goes back to the repo version; you cannot have your PPA and eat it too
[07:22] <wilee-nilee> TomyLobo, Only in that it locks the package not a release.
[07:22] <KI7MT> ppa and eat it too :-) good one
[07:23] <TomyLobo> bazhang: but i can have my old ppa version and not upgrade it too
[07:23] <paolo_> sono nuovo della chat
[07:24] <bazhang> TomyLobo, only if you remove the PPA sources.list.d  reference, in which case you invite many other issues
[07:24] <paolo_> vorrei sapere come installare xsane su ubuntu studio
[07:24] <bazhang> paolo_, #ubuntu-it
[07:24] <TomyLobo> bazhang: like what, except that the single package from this single ppa wont update anymore? (which is exactly what i want)
[07:24] <bazhang> TomyLobo, what ppa
[07:25] <TomyLobo> oracle java
[07:26] <helmut_> hi
[07:27] <KI7MT> is this the 7u25 thing again ?
[07:27] <paolo_> ok thank
[07:27] <reisio> hi helmut
[07:27] <paolo_> hi
[07:28] <paolo_> sorry but I do not speak English well
[07:30] <bazhang> paolo_, ubuntu support question?
[07:30] <bazhang> !info xsane
[07:30] <lpapp> hi, is there anyone using wsgi and ubuntu here?
[07:31] <lpapp> my wsgi file does not seem to load through apache (mod-wsgi)
[07:31] <bazhang> !anyone | lpapp
[07:31] <lpapp> I see the raw content rather than getting it interpreted through the wsgi protocol.
[07:31] <bazhang> sudo apt-get install xsane paolo_
[07:31] <lpapp> bazhang: ? I already asked.
[07:31] <somsip> lpapp: ISTR finding a bug in wsgi-mod that had some easy fix when I installed this. I'll have a look and try to remind myself
[07:31] <reisio> #ubuntu-server ?
[07:31] <bazhang> lpapp, try on ONE line, thats impossible to read
[07:32] <lpapp> bazhang: somsip seems to have managed it...
[07:32] <lpapp> somsip: ISTR means?
[07:32] <swaagie> morning sirs, raring fails to install on an uefi system for me, the installer fails to install grub-efi into /target/, I tried a lot of the solutions presented on the interwebs but to no avail, what bothers me is that I can't install any of the grub-efi-amd64 packages either before running the installation due to a version mismatch, anyone got directions?
[07:32] <bazhang> paolo_, ubuntu should use the same repos as ubuntu studio
[07:33] <somsip> lpapp: I mis-remembered. It wasn't a bug, but I did struggle to get the vhosts file just right.
[07:33] <lpapp> is #ubuntu-server better suited for this question?
[07:33] <reisio> lpapp: I can't imagine otherwise
[07:33] <lpapp> ok, I will try there.
[07:33] <cfhowlett> bazhang, xsane is the in ubuntustudio 12.04 universe repo
[07:33] <somsip> lpapp: so just down to doing something new and a bit complex rather than anything being 'wrong; in my case. 12.04 here
[07:34] <ObrienDave> !it | paolo_
[07:34] <bazhang> cfhowlett, tell that to paolo_ then
[07:35] <cfhowlett> bazhang, I thought YOU had the rapport!  :)
[07:35] <lpapp> somsip: I took it to #ubuntu-server. You are welcome to join there.
[07:35] <cfhowlett> paolo_, xsane is in the ubuntustudio 12.04 universe repository
[07:40] <swaagie> how would I find out what is the cause of the failed installation of grub-efi into /target/?
[07:51] <Kartagis> urgent
[07:51] <Kartagis> I can't see video on skype
[07:51] <Kartagis> any ideas?
[07:52] <wilee-nilee> swaagie, this uefi windows?
[07:52] <swaagie> was
[07:52] <bazhang> !details | Kartagis
[07:52] <wilee-nilee> swaagie, was meaning?
[07:53] <swaagie> wilee-nilee: initially I tried to do it alongside w8, but decided w8 wasn't worth the trouble anyways
[07:54] <wilee-nilee> swaagie, Some have just wiped the HD, and set the bios to legacy and done a msdos partitioning, you might look into that.
[07:54] <swaagie> wilee-nilee: yeah I guess that would be the better option for now
[07:54] <swaagie> thx
[07:54] <swaagie> I'll check and report back :)
[07:54] <wilee-nilee> if possible thats what I would do
[07:57] <wilee-nilee> Kartagis, You install cheeses to see if the camera is working?
[07:57] <wilee-nilee> cheese
[07:57] <cfhowlett> !cheese
[07:58] <wilee-nilee> !find cheese
[07:59] <Kartagis> wilee-nilee: cheese doesn't show me anything either
[08:00] <swaagie> wilee-nilee: would you advise manual partitioning or just let the installer do it?
[08:00] <wilee-nilee> Kartagis, I would check the web on that camera and ubuntu,
[08:00] <wilee-nilee> swaagie, You need to make a msdos partition table, your choice on the install,
[08:01] <swaagie> ah yeah I see thx
[08:01] <manuel> sup people
[08:02] <wilee-nilee> swaagie, The only thing I have seen with people converting a gpt HD are bits of the gpt still there inspite of a unallocated HD, so it might need the mbr dd'ed
[08:03] <wilee-nilee> a new table may fix that
[08:03] <cfhowlett> wilee-nilee, exactly.  drove me crazy when I had my triple boot system
[08:04] <wilee-nilee> cfhowlett, Usually just HD's strangest thing and the only way we could find them was with the boot script.
[08:05] <swaagie> that seems to be the case, also the free space reported is in separated parts etc
[08:06] <Kartagis> wilee-nilee: how? the camera's light is on
[08:07] <wilee-nilee> Kartagis, Internal camera run lspci to find external a usb run lsusb
[08:08] <wilee-nilee> Kartagis, My assumption is a driver might be missing, hopefuly to be found.
[08:09] <Kartagis> strange, I have a camera but lspci doesn't show me
[08:11] <faugusztin> Kartagis: lsusb ?
[08:11] <Kartagis> faugusztin: it's internal
[08:12] <wilee-nilee> swaagie, this website is worth being aware of. http://www.rodsbooks.com/gdisk/
[08:13] <peho> hi
[08:13] <MonkeyDust> Kartagis  your internal camera is also usb
[08:13] <peho> can somebody help me with apache passenger install
[08:13] <swaagie> wow thx wilee-nilee
[08:13] <Kartagis> crw-rw----+ 1 root video 81, 0 Eyl 19 10:53 /dev/video0
[08:13] <Kartagis> ls -l shows me this
[08:14] <Kartagis> MonkeyDust: lsusb doesn't show anything either
[08:14] <peho> i get follow error: apache2: Syntax error on line 140 of /etc/apache2/apache2.conf: Syntax error on line 1 of /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/passenger.load: Cannot load /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_passenger.so into server: /usr/lib/apache2/modules/mod_passenger.so: undefined symbol: unixd_config
[08:14] <faugusztin> Kartagis: that doesn't change the fact that 99% of the cameras are connected via USB, even the internal ones
[08:14] <ObrienDave> Kartagis, it might still be on a USB bus
[08:15] <drfaustus>  i 've got this message at startup"press skip to skip mounting or M for manual recovery",/sda1 and /sda5 (ntfs  volumes) r not mounted,i can mout them manuually using gparted,not disks which returns an error message"Error mounting system-managed device /dev/sda5: Command-line `mount "/media/drfaustus/97 GB volume 1"' exited with non-zero exit status 32: mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sda5, missing codepage or helper program,
[08:15] <drfaustus>  or other error    In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try       dmesg | tail  or so  (udisks-error-quark, 0)", here r mtab,fstab,   http://dpaste.com/1387266/
[08:17] <ObrienDave> Kartagis, please run lsusb
[08:18] <somsip> peho: how did you install mod_passenger
[08:18] <Kartagis> ObrienDave:  lsusb doesn't show anything either
[08:18] <Noiano> hello
[08:19] <ObrienDave> Kartagis, you should see something like this : Bus 001 Device 003: ID 0c45:6409 Microdia Webcam
[08:19] <Kartagis> ObrienDave: I don't :S
[08:20] <Noiano> I'm on ubuntu 12.04 with a mixed Radeon/Intel GPU .... I think I've properly installed fglrx and xvba driver ... youtube and chrome are gpu acellerated ... but vainfo shows only info about the Intel gpu ... why? :)
[08:21] <peho> somsip: yes i install mod_passenger and I had mod_passenger.so
[08:21] <somsip> peho: how did you install it? What command did you use?
[08:21] <peho> but I installed mode passenger after I was installed appache
[08:22] <faugusztin> peho: manually from source code ? apt-get ? how ?
[08:22] <peho> apt-get install libapache2-mod-passenger
[08:23] <faugusztin> peho: and apache is installed via apt-get too ?
[08:23] <peho> yes but before mod-passenger instalation
[08:29] <miketeevee> having a problem with fork between 2 LTS versions of ubuntu, can anyone help?
[08:29] <ActionParsnip> Noiano: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics
[08:30] <miketeevee> on 10.04 when i fork, it doesn't explode the memory, but on 12.04.3 when i run the same code, the fork doubles the memory
[08:30] <ActionParsnip> miketeevee: are there bugs reported?
[08:32] <Woomla> How can I make a script to change the directory? I've a script but after execution it reverts back to the directory I execute the script.
[08:33] <Gentoo64> Woomla: cd
[08:33] <Gentoo64> o
[08:33] <Gentoo64> thats because its not run in your actual shell
[08:34] <Woomla> Any solution for that?
[08:34] <Rory> Woomla: Get your script to return a string, and then call it with cd `sh scriptname.sh`
[08:34] <Kartagis> how can I solve my webcam issue?
[08:34] <Rory> What webcam do you have, Kartagis ?
[08:35] <finchd> Kartagis: find out what the manufacturer/model is. maybe with 'lspci'?
[08:35] <Woomla> Rory: actually I want a shortcut for "cd ..". I always type "cd.." which isn't recognized.
[08:35] <Rory> Woomla: put in your .bashrc: alias up="cd .."
[08:35] <Gentoo64> use an alias
[08:35] <Kartagis> Rory: absolutely no idea. neither lspci nor lsusb show anything. all I know is it's an internal one
[08:35] <Rory> Woomla: Then you can just type "up"
[08:36] <Gentoo64> cd .. should work though
[08:36] <Rory> Kartagis: Can you please put the output of the lsusb command onto http://paste.ubuntu.com
[08:36] <wilee-nilee> Kartagis, whats the computer model?
[08:36] <Kartagis> wilee-nilee: lenovo sl300
[08:36] <wilee-nilee> Kartagis, do the paste as well with lspci and lsusb
[08:36] <Balcuta> Hello!! Despite I follow exactly the instructions here detailed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HybridGraphics I can't power off the IGD card and power on the DIS card. Any idea? Thanks so much
[08:37] <Woomla> Coool. I didn't know about alias!
[08:37] <Kartagis> wilee-nilee: http://paste.debian.net/42857/
[08:37] <Wiz_KeeD> hey guys
[08:37] <Gentoo64> Woomla: can be very useful
[08:37] <Wiz_KeeD> Can anyone tell me how I can determine wether the updates that came out on the gui are from the official repositories or others?
[08:38] <Wiz_KeeD> All repositories i've added extra are for "Sublime Text Editor" and "Canonical Partners"
[08:38] <miketeevee> i summarized my fork-findings on my gist, can someone assist me? https://gist.github.com/michael-trelinski
[08:38] <Kartagis> Wiz_KeeD: netstat
[08:38] <Rory> Kartagis: What Ubuntu version are you using?
[08:38] <makeio> hi! I have a problem with APT, when I try to update/upgrade my ubuntu I recived an error saying me that I have dependencies problemes, and I can't go on. I try solve de problem with apt-get install -f, aptitude install -f, synaptic.. and I don't have the solution.
[08:38] <Kartagis> Rory: 13.04
[08:38] <makeio> When I try to enter to synaptic, it says me that I have broken packets, but if I try to delete it I says me that it will remove a lot of essentials packets like mount, hostname... I think that it would be my finish
[08:38] <Woomla> Gentoo64: alias works like a charm. Is it persistent between loggins, or do I need to edit a file?
[08:38] <Wiz_KeeD> now what Kartagis ?
[08:38] <miketeevee> fork consumes double the memory on 12.04.3 v.s. 10.04
[08:38] <Gentoo64> Woomla: add it to .bashrc
[08:38] <Gentoo64> alias up="cd .."
[08:39] <Wiz_KeeD> i got sumac.canonical.c at one point
[08:39] <Kartagis> Wiz_KeeD: then compare the output of netstat -antlp with repo's IP
[08:39] <Wiz_KeeD> how do I get the repo's ip?
[08:39] <Rory> Kartagis: can you try sudo modprobe -r uvcvideosudo modprobe -r uvcvideo; sudo modprobe uvcvideo quirks=16
[08:39] <Kartagis> nslookup repo
[08:39] <Gentoo64> Kartagis: there seriously must be a better way to do it than netstat
[08:40] <Wiz_KeeD> http://pastie.org/8338305
[08:40] <grahamsavage> without going into the limitations of the protocol itself, what would be the recommendation most secure/reliable ftp server?
[08:40] <Wiz_KeeD> Kartagis, if i remove the other repo's I can't update the applications I've installed through them can I?
[08:40] <Kartagis> Rory: FATAL: Module uvcvideo is in use.
[08:41] <Rory> Kartagis: gksu gedit /etc/modprobe.d/options
[08:41] <Gentoo64> Wiz_KeeD: sublime has a standalone download
[08:41] <Gentoo64> no need for a repo
[08:41] <Rory> At the bottom add the following line: options uvcvideo quirks=16
[08:41] <Rory> Kartagis: Then reboot
[08:42] <Wiz_KeeD> Gentoo64, it does not install it in the gui and does not update it
[08:42] <Wiz_KeeD> You just download and run
[08:42] <Gentoo64> Wiz_KeeD: yeah
[08:42] <Kartagis> I hope it works
[08:42] <DJones> miketeevee: Its a bit quiet here at the minute, I'm trying to think whether there might be another channel that might be able to help
[08:42] <Gentoo64> Wiz_KeeD: it checks for updates though
[08:42] <Gentoo64> on run
[08:42] <Gentoo64> just copy the files over
[08:42] <Kartagis> if it does, I'm gonna kiss you Rory
[08:42] <Kartagis> brb
[08:42] <Wiz_KeeD> yeah but it does not integrate with the gui properly
[08:42] <Wiz_KeeD> anyway, furthest away from my issues
[08:43] <Gentoo64> ah you mean icons and stuff
[08:43] <Myrtti> AskUbuntu might be of help too
[08:43] <Wiz_KeeD> yeah that's it Gentoo64
[08:43] <xiaclo> grahamsavage: if you keep up with updates it doesn't matter much.  I prefer vsftpd, never had issues with it.  Depending on your clients though, you can look into FTPS for SSL encryption without requiring SSH.
[08:44] <grahamsavage> xiaclo: yeah has to be standard ftp
[08:44] <Wiz_KeeD> I'm very interested in this update since it updates the jockey thingy that helps the wireless interface
[08:44] <Wiz_KeeD> maybe the broadcom driver thing will be fixe now
[08:44] <grahamsavage> xiaclo: it's for devices to do their firmware updates, so no choice in protocols
[08:45] <otak> +-
[08:46] <Kartagis> Rory: it doesn't :S
[08:46] <xiaclo> grahamsavage: I would still go with vsftpd, anonymous read-only access would be quite secure for that use case.
[08:46] <otak> ~~~i9hhhhhhhhhh yuuuuuuuc
[08:46] <grahamsavage> xiaclo: awesome thankyou for the tips :D
[08:47] <aeon-ltd> otak: cat on the keyboard?
[08:47] <miketeevee> ActionParsnip: i don't know what i'm searching for.  apparently my google-fu is bad on this one.
[08:47] <Wiz_KeeD> Guys, in the gui of the download I have removed all the repositories (Sublime, Canonical, Third-Party software etc) now I can check downloads again and install?
[08:48] <prateek> #help
[08:48] <Wiz_KeeD> anyone?
[08:49] <Rory> Kartagis: Can you pastebin the command: lsusb -vv
[08:49] <prateek> which channel for ebooks.?
[08:49] <Wiz_KeeD> Kartagis, is it safe to install updates now?
[08:49] <DJones> prateek: www.amazon.com
[08:50] <aeon-ltd> !alis
[08:50] <Kartagis> Wiz_KeeD: assume
[08:50] <Wiz_KeeD> Remmoved all repositories from Other software
[08:50] <Kartagis> Wiz_KeeD: I assume yes
[08:50] <Wiz_KeeD> I don't like assumptions :-s
[08:50] <Kartagis> Wiz_KeeD: update first
[08:51] <aeon-ltd> prateek: on the freenode channel ask about how to use alis to search for channels
[08:51] <Wiz_KeeD> Nah, i'm scared to do it, maybe some other repos are in and will break my system
[08:51] <Wiz_KeeD> had enough of that
[08:51] <Kartagis> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6127424/ Rory
[08:51] <Wiz_KeeD> ikonia? :)
[08:53] <Rory> Kartagis: Can you check if it's enabled in your BIOS? F1 -> Security -> IO Port Access -> Integrated Camera
[08:53] <Kartagis> Rory: the light is on. wouldn't that make it enabled?
[08:54] <Rory> Kartagis: The light is on all the time? Most cams only have their light on when they're actively in use
[08:54] <Kartagis> Rory: it's off at the moment
[08:54] <Rory> Kartagis: When does it turn on?
[08:55] <Kartagis> Rory: when I run cheese, when I switch to skype etc.
[08:55] <Rory> Kartagis: But you see no video?
[08:55] <Kartagis> Rory: nope :S
[08:57] <otak> sorry people, keyboard fixed now :)
[08:57] <Kartagis> Rory: I have a /dev/video0 though
[08:58] <Kartagis> what does c mean anyway in file permissions?
[08:59] <grahamsavage> xiaclo: with vsftpd.. is there an option to have a un/pw login without a creating a unix account?
[08:59] <grahamsavage> all the guides I have read involve setting up using user accounts
[09:02] <Nephro> What are the implication of installing a 32 bit OS on a 64bit server machine?
[09:03] <DJones> Nephro: Probably very little, it just may not take advantage of the 64 bit facilities available
[09:03] <kale_> hello has anyone installed groovy on grails in ubuntu 13.04?
[09:04] <DJones> Nephro: Any reason you don't want to install the 64 bit version
[09:04] <Nephro> I heard that 32bit os's can't handle 16Gb of ram
[09:04] <Nephro> DJones, motherboard issue, can't install 64bit kernel on this particular one
[09:04] <reisio> Nephro: looking silly
[09:04] <Nephro> reisio ?
[09:05] <KI7MT> yeah, 32bit limit is 4gb
[09:05] <reisio> Nephro: why, because of the BIOS?
[09:05] <DJones> Nephro: This may help https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit
[09:05] <kale_> 32 bit os cant handle more than 4 gb of ram i think
[09:05] <reisio> sure it can
[09:05] <reisio> but it's unlikely a box with a 64-bit proc can't handle a 64-bit OS
[09:06] <Nephro> reisio, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2111223
[09:06] <B00n3r> ...
[09:06] <B00n3r> helllow...
[09:06] <reisio> hi
[09:06] <B00n3r> yeyyyy!!!!!
[09:06] <k1l_> Nephro: you know about PAE? that is standard for 32bit ubuntu
[09:06] <reisio> Nephro: do I have to read all this to get an answer about the bios question?
[09:06] <Nephro> k1l_, first time I hear of PAE
[09:07] <B00n3r> just got UBUUUNNNTTTTTUUUUUU
[09:07] <B00n3r> and a boner
[09:07] <k1l_> Nephro: its not that new. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Physical_Address_Extension
[09:08] <Wiz_KeeD> Guys, is there a way the the partitions which I have for windows now named 85GB Partition to be renamed to Windows C: and Windows D:? I always mix them up
[09:08] <k1l_> !guidelines > B00n3r
[09:08] <Rory> Wiz_KeeD: You can set labels for partitions using gparted
[09:09] <reisio> or ntfslabel directly
[09:09] <Wiz_KeeD> Any other way without installing third-party applications Rory?
[09:09] <reisio> you might query #windows as to the potential side effects
[09:09] <B00n3r> i donno how
[09:09] <B00n3r> ..
[09:09] <faugusztin> Nephro: why is enabling IOMMU not a viable solution for you ?
[09:09] <reisio> faugusztin: is that not part of some thread hijacking?
[09:09] <Rory> Wiz_KeeD: I think you can use the built-in disk utility
[09:09] <Wiz_KeeD> What is that called Rory?
[09:10] <B00n3r> ....
[09:10] <Rory> Wiz_KeeD: Not sure, search for Disk utility that's what it's called in the dash
[09:10] <B00n3r> wizkid???
[09:10] <B00n3r> fag
[09:10] <B00n3r> ..
[09:12] <faugusztin> reisio: considering the Gigabyte naming scheme, DS3 should be above D3, it should have that bios option (checking manual now)
[09:13] <faugusztin> reisio: indeed, according to the manual even DS3 has that option, so he should just try that solution
[09:14] <KI7MT> I suppose the correct statement about 32bit & 4gb ram is address extension, not physical RAM, PAE enables an extension in the kernel, but the address length is still 32bit.
[09:14] <swaagie> amagad I luv gdisk already
[09:15] <Wiz_KeeD> Aparently it does not allow me to edit them Rory
[09:15] <reisio> faugusztin: is that going to make 64-bit work, or just usb stuff?
[09:15] <Wiz_KeeD> But that you for your help and support, much appreciated
[09:15] <Rory> Wiz_KeeD: Use gparted then
[09:15] <faugusztin> reisio: usb/ethernet. what other problems do you have in 64-bit ?
[09:16]  * reisio shrugs
[09:16] <faugusztin> reisio: sorry, that was meant to Nephro :) confusion
[09:16] <reisio> he said he couldn't install 64-bit
[09:16] <reisio> I guess if he answers your question we'll know :p
[09:18] <Wiz_KeeD> Guys, the dejadup backup system is incremental right? If I place a backup every day it just adds the changes yes?
[09:18] <Rory> Wiz_KeeD: Yes
[09:18] <Wiz_KeeD> thanks!
[09:19] <Kartagis> I added myself to video group, and still no dice :S
[09:20] <faugusztin> Kartagis: did you logout/login after adding yourself to the group ?
[09:20] <Kartagis> faugusztin: even rebooted
[09:21] <swaagie> I opt gdisk to be part of the installer if uefi becomes serious business, gparted just isnt there yet
[09:23] <Increase> Hello everyone.
[09:24] <Rory> Hello Increase
[09:24] <fortunecookie> hello++
[09:24] <Increase> I was curious on how to make my casper file work at saving.
[09:24] <Increase> Every time I shut down, nothing saves.
[09:24] <Increase> I used the pen drive linux creater
[09:24] <Rory> Could you re-phrase that Increase ? What are you trying to do? Are you trying to make persistance work on a Live USB?
[09:24] <Increase> Yes
[09:24] <Increase> Rory:
[09:25] <Rory> Increase: Try using my preferred tool: Linux Live USB http://www.linuxliveusb.com/
[09:25] <Rory> Increase: It's always worked for me. Everyone has their favourite though
[09:25] <Increase> Alright.
[09:26] <fortunecookie> asaik, casper-based live = only partition-based persistence supported
[09:26] <Kartagis> Increase++
[09:26] <Kartagis> that's also increasing, right?
[09:26] <Kartagis> :D
[09:26] <Increase> The one I used said it was creating a persistent file, but it doesn't work. The casper file is there though.
[09:26] <Increase> Do I have to partion it or something?
[09:27] <fortunecookie> there are a truck of live distro support file-based persistence nowadays. time to say goodbye to knoppix.
[09:28] <Kartagis> so?
[09:28] <Kartagis> my cam issue?
[09:37] <Increase> bloop
[09:37] <reisio> eep ep
[09:37] <reisio> eep op, even
[09:38] <fortunecookie> well, is there a channel about ubuntu touch?
[09:38] <k1l_> !touch | fortunecookie
[09:39] <fortunecookie> oh, i have known that
[09:39] <karab44> hello
[09:39] <karab44> I connected my galaxy trough USB cable and it doesn't work. Got some mtp messages but I can not do anything with pictures
[09:40] <karab44> Pardon, I can not only view them
[09:58] <fahadash_awy> Hello
[09:59] <fahadash> which folder represents the launchbar ?
[09:59] <utfans05> Heres a good one for  yall. My Logitech G5 is giving me issues with 12.04. When it is hooked up to the system it's acting really weird. I can't left click or right click but it works fine in Portal. Any ideas on what's going on?
[10:00] <ikonia> works fine in portal ?
[10:00] <ikonia> what is protal ? the game ?
[10:00] <utfans05> Yup.
[10:00] <ikonia> utfans05: so on the ubuntu desktop you cannot click your mouse ?
[10:00] <utfans05> Nope.
[10:01] <ikonia> utfans05: so how are you launching portal ?
[10:01] <utfans05> Yeah its a weird one.
[10:01] <utfans05> I run synergy with another pc.
[10:01] <utfans05> I have tried disconnecting synergy and it still acts the same.
[10:01] <ikonia> utfans05: how did you setup synergy without a mouse
[10:02] <utfans05> I had synergy setup first before I launched portal. Trying to play it using the other pc
[10:02] <utfans05> And the mouse input was too iradic due to the signal traveling over the network.
[10:02] <ikonia> utfans05: yes, but synergy is not setup by default on ubuntu, so how did you set it up if you can't use a mouse
[10:03] <fahadash> lol
[10:03] <utfans05> ikonia, This system has been setup for weeks.
[10:03] <utfans05> Plus you can use synergy from command line.
[10:03] <fahadash> ikonia doesnt beleive you man
[10:03] <ikonia> utfans05: does that mean the mouse used to work and no longer does
[10:03] <ikonia> fahadash: please don't make things up - I'm trying to understand the problem
[10:03] <utfans05> My dell mouse works on it
[10:03] <ikonia> fahadash: I'll speak for myself thanks
[10:03] <utfans05> The G5 doesnt
[10:04] <ikonia> utfans05: so you used to use another mouse,
[10:04] <ikonia> utfans05: has the G5 ever worked ?
[10:05] <utfans05> Yes. I've used it for years. This is the first time i've tried to use it on ubuntu 12.04
[10:05] <ikonia> utfans05: sorry, so it's never worked on ubuntu to be clear, as this is the first time you are trying to use it ?
[10:05] <utfans05> I've used it on 10.04 and 11.04 and it worked fine.
[10:06] <ikonia> ok, so it's since you've moved to 12.04 it's not worked
[10:06] <utfans05> Yup.
[10:07] <wasanzy> hi guys
[10:07] <Rory> hi wasanzy
[10:07] <ikonia> utfans05: does the mouse actually work in terms of moving the pointer
[10:07] <wasanzy> hope you are doing well?
[10:07] <Kartagis> my cam issue?
[10:08] <utfans05> Yes.
[10:08] <ikonia> Kartagis: that's just a useless statement
[10:08] <wasanzy> any one has success in customizing the ubuntu unity desktop?
[10:08] <ikonia> utfans05: do any of the buttons work
[10:08] <utfans05> No.
[10:08] <ikonia> utfans05: even the extra side ones ?
[10:08] <wasanzy> the tweak tool has not enough to customize
[10:08] <Kartagis> ikonia: I've been asking here for a while. but let me tell you anyway
[10:08] <utfans05> ikonia, None of them work. But on my win7 box it works fine
[10:09] <Kartagis> ikonia: my internal webcam doesn't work
[10:09] <ikonia> utfans05: ok, so getting a better picture
[10:09] <ikonia> Kartagis: tell the channel - not me
[10:09] <ikonia> Kartagis: but saying "my cam issue?" is just a waste of time
[10:09] <ikonia> it means nothing
[10:09] <Kartagis> okay
[10:09] <k1l_> Kartagis: did you give your lsusb / lspci in a pastebin?
[10:10] <ikonia> utfans05: a little odd, documentation suggests left/mouse right buttons should work, but the wheel and additional buttons may require extra configuration
[10:10] <ikonia> utfans05: are you aware of the evtest program ?
[10:10] <Kartagis> k1l_: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6127424/
[10:11] <utfans05> ikonia, no im not.
[10:11] <ikonia> utfans05: ok, I'd suggest installing that, it monitors mouse events, that way you can see if a mouse event is triggered when you press the buttons
[10:11] <ikonia> utfans05: that may help get an idea of what's actually going on
[10:11] <utfans05> Yeah. Installed and about to test it out.
[10:13] <utfans05> ikonia, it's picking the click up.
[10:14] <glambert> what could be causing regular segfaults?  applications or the kernal? hardware perhaps?
[10:15] <ikonia> utfans05: ok, so that's at least something positive.
[10:15] <ikonia> utfans05: the question is why is your desktop ignore this....
[10:15] <utfans05> ikonia, Yeah. Now I've got a good starting point. Thanks!
[10:15] <k1l_> Kartagis: which lenovo is it? which ubuntu?
[10:20] <Myrtti> glambert: hardware more probably, run memtest, fdisk, smartmontools etc
[10:20] <ikonia> utfans05: I'm just having a look around at the moment see if there is anything obvious with why this wouldn't work on the desktop - but does on apps
[10:20] <Kartagis> k1l_: lenovo sl-300 and 13.04
[10:21] <glambert> Myrtti, afraid you'd say that.  the server is about 300 miles away :P
[10:22] <k1l_> Kartagis: see this and the comments: http://kylewilliams.co.za/2009/03/05/getting-the-lenovo-sl300-camera-to-work-on-linux/comment-page-1  that seemed to work for 12.04 and probaply for 13.03
[10:23] <Myrtti> glambert: well, if it all of a sudden starts segfaulting when it previously hasn't, and the same software hasn't been known to cause segfaults for others, then hardware is the most probable cause.
[10:23] <utfans05> ikonia, Yeah, I'm doing the same thing. I'll get it fixed.
[10:23] <utfans05> Thanks!
[10:24] <glambert> Myrtti, thanks.  got a few servers doing the same things software wise and it's the only one segfaulting
[10:24] <glambert> sometimes on a daily basis
[10:25] <shashank_> hi
[10:25] <shashank_> ubuntu world
[10:26] <Kartagis> k1l_: it worked thanks a lot
[10:26] <wasanzy> my problem with ubuntu 13.04 is that, some application indicators are missing. like skype, when you close it too, in the previous version, u see it on the top panel, but this 13.04 doesn't have that. how can I fix it?
[10:27] <faugusztin> wasanzy: alt+right click on the top bar, add to panel, notification area
[10:28] <wasanzy> ok, let me try
[10:29] <wasanzy> faugusztin: that is not working. right click did nothing
[10:30] <faugusztin> wasanzy: Alt+right click
[10:31] <cantoma> hey guys, any sound mixer apps for wmaker? I have just tried wmmixer but it doesn't seem to work
[10:31] <wasanzy> extactly what I did faugusztin
[10:31] <faugusztin> wasanzy: seems like in unity it is a bit different http://askubuntu.com/questions/89774/gnome-panel-alt-right-click-does-not-work
[10:33] <wasanzy> ok
[10:34] <faugusztin> wasanzy: but the point is the same - you need to add "notification area" to your panel, the only question is how you get there :D
[10:35] <wasanzy> Unity is boring paaaa
[10:36] <fortunecookie> ubuntu arm + mir +unity is not
[10:36] <wasanzy> which key is supper key?
[10:37] <Rory> wasanzy: Between Ctrl and Alt, it usually has a Windows logo on it
[10:37] <k1l_> wasanzy: super key = windows key
[10:37] <fortunecookie> would ubuntu touch replace unity in the future?
[10:37] <k1l_> fortunecookie: no
[10:37] <fortunecookie> oh
[10:38] <shashank_> hello
[10:38] <k1l_> fortunecookie: the ubuntu-touch will be merged into the new unity. and the it will be launch ubuntu-touch if its on a mobile/tablet and the regular unity if its on a desktop
[10:38] <wasanzy> ok thanks
[10:39] <k1l_> fortunecookie: so it will be one unity with different handling for the devices
[10:39] <wasanzy> aahhh those keys are als not working hmmm
[10:40] <fortunecookie> that's just my feeling
[10:44] <faugusztin> wasanzy: hm, looking around, seems like unity removed gnome applet support in 13.04 :O... time for you to switch to gnome then i guess :D
[10:45] <faugusztin> wasanzy: http://www.webupd8.org/2013/05/how-to-get-systray-whitelist-back-in.html but don't blame me if it doesn't work :)
[10:46] <wasanzy> ok
[10:48] <faugusztin> wasanzy: but it seems unity has a newer version, so it probably won't work... so either find a indicator for your app, or use something else than unity unfortunately
[10:48] <fahadash> Whats Unity ?
[10:48] <Rory> !unity | fahadash
[10:49] <fahadash> !notunity
[10:49] <fahadash> I don't like GNOME
[10:49] <fahadash> I used it with SLES 9 at my workplace
[10:50] <fahadash> I like KDE better
[10:50] <Rory> Do you have an Ubuntu support question fahadash ?
[10:50] <fahadash> Is it possible to get KDE on ubuntu ?
[10:50] <Rory> !kubuntu | fahadash
[10:51] <Rory> fahadash: You can do apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:51] <fahadash> Then I get to keep the Unity with it ?
[10:51] <Rory> fahadash: yes you can choose which one to use before you log in
[10:51] <fahadash> ok
[10:52] <fahadash> Where can I find SDK for Unity ?
[10:52] <Rory> What do you want to do?
[10:52] <fahadash> Start developing apps for Ubuntu with UI on unity
[10:52] <Rory> You use GTK or QT. Unity is just the launcher and dash
[10:53] <fahadash> Thanks. Do applications created for Ubuntu such as a game or a music player have to be free and opensource ?
[10:53] <Rory> No fahadash there are no restrictions on running software you wrote on Ubuntu
[10:54] <fahadash> I am talking about selling it
[10:54] <Rory> fahadash: No, there are many non-free applications for Linux
[10:54] <fahadash> And how about soure code, do I have to make it public because it runs on Linux ?
[10:55] <Rory> fahadash: It is up to you what license you release your software under. Like I said: there are many non-free applications for Linux
[10:55] <fahadash> Thanks
[11:02] <BluesKaj> 'Morning all
[11:05] <ne2k> hi, I've been installed 12.04.3 amd64 server from a CD, and decided to give netboot a go as I have mutliple servers to install at once. I've got it all set up and can PXE boot into a boot menu, but it looks different from the one on the CD -- I think it might be the desktop one, not the server one. I used this image: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/
[11:06] <ne2k> I've browsed around dists/precise/main/ but can't see a different directory for a server installer vs. a desktop installer. what's the right way to go about netbooting a server installer?
[11:07] <auronandace> ne2k: a netboot install is just like the mini install, you install what you need (at least thats what i thought netboot is for)
[11:08] <auronandace> !mini | ne2k
[11:09] <ne2k> ok. let me put it a different way. what is the best way to go about getting the exact same experience as the server install CD, but via netboot?
[11:09] <ne2k> via PXE booting, I should say.
[11:10] <fortunecookie> afaik, there is upxe booting too. so you can install linux via the internet
[11:11] <ActionParsnip> ne2k: the minimal iso installs using the web, you will need to boot from a USB or CD with the 30Mb ISO on it
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> ne2k: then it will install packages from the repos rather than installing from local media. Is that what you mean?
[11:12] <ne2k> ActionParsnip: I must be expressing myself really badly
[11:12] <ActionParsnip> ne2k: if you boot the mini ISO you can install ubuntu server
[11:13] <ne2k> ActionParsnip: is that the same as what is in netboot.tar.gz?
[11:13] <ActionParsnip> ne2k: never seen that file before, where is it from?
[11:14] <ne2k> http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/ there's a mini.iso in there too
[11:14] <fahadash> netboot? sounds like an interesting thing
[11:14] <ne2k> ActionParsnip: I unpacked netboot.tar.gz on to my TFTP server, as per this doc http://www.debuntu.org/how-to-unattended-ubuntu-deployment-over-network-page-4-pxelinux/
[11:14] <ActionParsnip> ne2k: yes, use the ISO and boot to that, configure your network in the installer and you can install the OS using the repos as a package source instead of using a local CD which will need updating once you rfirst boot
[11:15] <ActionParsnip> ne2k: oh you want to use PXE servers etc
[11:15] <ne2k> yes. well, I have one system installing from the netboot files at the moment. it seems to be downloading the base system on to my apt-cacher
[11:18] <ne2k> I just wanted to make sure it wasn't going to install a desktop system by default
[11:18] <ActionParsnip> ne2k: it won't as you choose in the minimal, you can install any or even no DE in the mini ISO :)
[11:18] <theadmin> ne2k: All of the netinstall images allow to install any of the Ubuntu releases, or just a base system
[11:18] <ne2k> ActionParsnip: theadmin: I haven't been asked yet, it's just installing the base system
[11:18] <theadmin> ne2k: So, you can have Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Lubuntu, Xubuntu or Ubuntu Server, you get a menu to choose
[11:19] <theadmin> ne2k: Yeah the base installs first
[11:19] <ne2k> does that happen after the base system -- oh great
[11:19] <ne2k> thanks
[11:19] <ne2k> apt-cacher seems to be extremely slow
[11:24] <lpapp> hi, can I get python 2.7 on my Ubuntu 10.04 somehow?
[11:24] <lpapp> it is having 2.6.5. I mean getting it from an official package.
[11:24] <lpapp> (I would not like to build such a big software myself)
[11:25] <auronandace> !backports | lpapp
[11:27] <lpapp> auronandace: did not help.
[11:27] <auronandace> lpapp: then no
[11:27] <lpapp> still getting python 2.6.5 for apt-get update && apt-get install python
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> ne2k: it'll get there :)
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> lpapp: what is the output of:  uname -a
[11:28] <lpapp> so python 2.7 is not supported on an LTS ubuntu ??
[11:28] <auronandace> lpapp: not on 10.04
[11:28] <lpapp> Linux Intraweb 2.6.32-51-generic-pae #113-Ubuntu SMP Wed Aug 21 20:02:16 UTC 2013 i686 GNU/Linux
[11:28] <lpapp> then why LTS ? :(
[11:28] <auronandace> lpapp: it is supported on 12.04 which is also lts
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> lpapp: so its a desktop system, with a mouse pointer and web browser?
[11:29] <auronandace> lpapp: you realise that 10.04 is now only supported on server
[11:29] <lpapp> ActionParsnip: no, it is server.
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> lpapp: then why is it the generic kernel and not the server kernel
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> lpapp: the server OS ships with a server kernel, the desktop OS ships with generic
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> lpapp: so I KNOW it is the desktop OS
[11:30] <lpapp> because people use the UI as well occasionally.
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> lpapp: its not supported on the desktop anymore
[11:30] <lpapp> anyway, 3 years old LTS ubuntu does not support python 2.7? :((
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> lpapp: 10.04 is only supported on the server, I suggest you upgrade to 12.04
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> lpapp: on the desktop, no
[11:31] <fortunecookie> grr, i am still using 10.04, a decent version
[11:31] <lpapp> that is a shame.
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> lpapp: nor will it ever, the only updates you will get will be the ones common between the desktop and server
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> lpapp: ALL OSes eventually die
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> lpapp: Win XP has about 240 days left
[11:32] <fortunecookie> what? xp was dead at 2007
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> sorry 193 days
[11:32] <ActionParsnip> fortunecookie: thats the ultimate death day
[11:32] <auronandace> fortunecookie: perhaps you are thinking pre-sp3
[11:33] <fortunecookie> umm, xp will be secure in a vm
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> fortunecookie: Extended support will end on April 8, 2014
[11:33] <kaddi> hi, does anyone know about a ppa for R 3.0.1?
[11:33] <kaddi> there's a bug in 13.04 that won't let me use the current version on ubuntu 13.04
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> kaddi: the package is just called 'r'?
[11:33] <ActionParsnip> !info r
[11:33] <kaddi> ActionParsnip: yeah
[11:33] <kaddi> r-core-base i guess
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> kaddi: so it's not just 'r' l...like I asked
[11:34] <kaddi> i installed r-recommended initially
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> !info r-core-base
[11:34] <ActionParsnip> !info r-recommended
[11:34] <jrib> kaddi: what bug?
[11:34] <theadmin> What's an "R collection", even?
[11:34] <kaddi> jrib: x-windows are completely empty. No histograms are displayed
[11:35] <jrib> kaddi: i mean what's the bug #?
[11:35] <kaddi> GNU R is a program/programming language for statistics
[11:35] <kaddi> 1173755
[11:35] <kaddi> i think
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> kaddi: https://launchpad.net/~opencpu/+archive/rapparmor-dev?field.series_filter=raring
[11:35] <kaddi> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gedit-r-plugin/+bug/1173755
[11:35] <FloodBot1> kaddi: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> kaddi: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas?name_filter=r-recommends
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> kaddi: great search engine for PPAs
[11:36] <kaddi> ty
[11:36] <kaddi> yeah, i've never seen that before.. will definitely use it again in the future :)
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> kaddi: if you use http://duckduckgo.com you can search for:   !ppa r-recommends     and get the same
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> kaddi: one of the many reasons to quack instead of dumb google
[11:37] <kaddi> i really should get used to duckduckgo. it's the sauce.. Force of habit has me going back to google too often though >.<
[11:37] <lpapp> ActionParsnip: thanks anyway. We will try to update it in a sandbox, and then ship it.
[11:37] <theadmin> kaddi: Just reassign your search keyword ("g" I assume) to use duckduckgo
[11:37] <theadmin> kaddi: tada
[11:37] <kaddi> hehe
[11:37] <kaddi> ja
[11:37] <kaddi> yes
[11:38] <ActionParsnip> the bang functionality is amazing
[11:38] <Mattias> ActionParsnip: Does Duckduckgo save my search history?
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> Mattias: it doesnt track you if thats what you mean
[11:39] <ActionParsnip> Mattias: it also doesnt bubble you
[11:39] <Mattias> ActionParsnip: hm... then I'd have to remember what I've searched for on different devices...
[11:39] <wessel> Am I disconnected?
[11:39] <theadmin> wessel: Maybe.
[11:41] <fortunecookie> duckduckgo cliam that it's the most secure search engine
[11:43] <fleisch> hello all.
[11:46] <Tausen> Trying to install fglrx gives me "kernel includes at /lib/modules/3.8.0-30-generic/build/include not found or incomplete" - any idea how to continue? /lib/modules/3.8.0-30-generic/build/include exists and contains a bunch of symbolic links
[11:47] <Tausen> The next line in the log after the "not found or incomplete" is "file: /lib/modules/3.8.0-30-generic/build/include/linux/version.h" - this file does not exist
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> Tausen: are there any bugs repoted?
[11:47] <mohamedkidwani> hi all
[11:48] <Tausen> ActionParsnip: Where do I check?
[11:48] <wessel> I'm trying to apply the second fix (see link) but it won't let me uncheck the hardware acceleration box, http://askubuntu.com/questions/28952/consistent-flash-player-crash-only-on-youtube
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> Tausen: launchpad, or search the web for the error?
[11:48] <mrrcp> goood morning people!
[11:48] <ActionParsnip> Tausen: do you have the kernel headers installed?
[11:49] <theadmin> In general, does third-party software get uninstalled during a distribution (release) upgrade? To be more precise... Can I safely upgrade, without X breaking, if I have Bumblebee?
[11:49] <JoBArTe_Skuld> hi to all
[11:49] <Tausen> ActionParsnip: Yes, I do have kernel headers installed. I've been googling around and have found some similar problems with older kernel versions, they seemed to have fixed it by updating
[11:49] <theadmin> (I know 13.10 isn't released yet, just getting ready for when it is)
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> Tausen: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-3.8.0-30
[11:50] <Tausen> ActionParsnip: "linux-headers-3.8.0-30 is already the newest version"
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> Tausen: sounds like a bug with that package then
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> Tausen: do you have version.h in your OS anywhere?
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> Tausen: found this: http://slackblogs.blogspot.de/2012/12/linux-kernel-37-vmware-workstation-and.html
[11:51] <ActionParsnip> Tausen: suggests a cheeky symlink :)
[11:52] <Tausen> ActionParsnip: Aww, thats too bad. Will look for version.h and check link, thank you
[11:52] <Tausen> ActionParsnip: Should I report it somewhere? I'm still just a noob :)
[11:53] <theadmin> Tausen: linux-headers-VERSIONHERE is not a real package. Real packages are named linux-headers-VERSIONHERE-FLAVORHERE. Try appending -generic to that and installing it.
[11:53] <theadmin> Tausen: Or -server or whichever flavor you are running.
[11:53] <ActionParsnip> Tausen: run:   ubuntu-bug linux-headers-3.8.0-30
[11:54] <Tausen> theadmin: Tried generic too, got "linux-headers-3.8.0-30-generic is already the newest version"
[11:54] <theadmin> Tausen: Ah, okay then.
[11:54] <Tausen> theadmin: But thanks for the suggestion :)
[11:54] <alpha_> How can I disable my ATI grapic card to use the intel ?
[11:54] <Tausen> ActionParsnip: Thanks!
[11:55] <theadmin> alpha_: Create a file called /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist_ati.conf and add two lines: "blacklist radeon" and "blacklist fglrx".
[11:55] <theadmin> alpha_: Also make sure you don't have a custom Xorg.conf using an ATI driver explicityl.
[11:55] <theadmin> Gosh I can't into typing today, explicitly.
[11:56] <BluesKaj> alpha_, usually in your bios , if one is a pci then choose it as default
[11:56] <theadmin> ...Or that, yeah.
[11:56] <alpha_> BluesKaj : I have a laptop. HP 4540s
[11:57] <BluesKaj> ahh , 2 gpus ?
[11:57] <BluesKaj> optimus , alpha_ ?
[11:58] <alpha_> Blue : what does optimus means ?
[11:58] <BluesKaj> ono ati in optimus , nm
[11:58] <alpha_> mean*
[11:59] <theadmin> alpha_: It's a technology NVidia has. Basically two GPUs in one physical unit
[11:59] <theadmin> alpha_: ATI doesn't have Optimus cards (obviously), though
[12:00] <alpha_> theadmin : yes yes its optimus .... ATI Radeon 7xxx
[12:00] <theadmin> alpha_: No, Optimus is an nVidia technology, AMD/ATI don't have that. There's just two GPUs in your laptop
[12:00] <theadmin> alpha_: That's normal dual graphics, can get rid of one of them by blacklisting the driver, see my messages above
[12:00] <alpha_> theadmin : I mean , now i have 2 graphic card on my laptop 1.ATI   2.Intel
[12:01] <alpha_> theadmin : Intel is my default graphic card
[12:03] <BluesKaj> alp yeah , the intel is onboard and the ATI is the "dedicated" hi power gpu for gaming etc
[12:04] <BluesKaj> oh well
[12:04] <rgupta> Someone used RDP to connect to my machine .. is there a way to find out from which ip address the connection originated? can someone help?
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> rgupta: what service are you running to allow RDP?
[12:06] <rgupta> ActionParsnip,  desktop sharing and x11vnc
[12:06] <theadmin> rgupta: Uh... That's VNC, not RDP then.
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> rgupta: vnc is not rdp
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> rgupta: rdp is rdp, vnc is vnc
[12:06] <ActionParsnip> rgupta: there is a tonne of differences
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> rgupta: please tell me you are not port forwarding vnc from your router
[12:07] <rgupta> ActionParsnip, sorry for the mix up ... i am new to ubuntu ... but i still want to know if there is a way to find who was able to get access to my desktop
[12:08] <rgupta> ActionParsnip, no i am not
[12:09] <MrQuist> rgupta -> try logmein
[12:09] <ActionParsnip> rgupta: vnc works in windows too
[12:10] <MrQuist> www.logmein.com
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> rgupta: so being new to ubuntu isnt a thing here, they are defacto standards
[12:10] <ActionParsnip> rgupta: so only users on your LAN can access the VNC, nobody from outside can get in?
[12:10] <auronandace> MrQuist: he isn't lookinf for remote desktop solutions, he wants to know who connected to him
[12:10] <rgupta> ActionParsnip, yes
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> rgupta: then run:  last     assuming they had to log in when they connect
[12:11] <ActionParsnip> rgupta: what do you use VNC to achieve may I ask, what is the purpose of the connection
[12:11] <MrQuist> oh sorry missed that question
[12:12] <rgupta> ActionParsnip, I used VNC just once because my client wanted to remotely do a setup on my system ... then it was disabled
[12:12] <ActionParsnip> rgupta: i'd check in the output of 'last'
[12:13] <rgupta> ActionParsnip, 'last' just shows myself as logged in
[12:13] <tenc> Are there any IRC clients which correctly integrate with message-indicator?
[12:14] <ActionParsnip> tenc: pidgin
[12:14] <faugusztin> tenc: xchat-gnome ?
[12:15] <tenc> xchat adds an entry but doesn't signal updates and it forgets whether or not it's open on suspend (not sure if that's message-indicator or xchat)
[12:16] <tenc> I'll try pidgin, thanks ActionParsnip.
[12:16] <swaagie> update-grub fails: grub-probe: error: failed to get canonical path of /cow, basically trying to update the config of grub to get the menu to show on boot, I need a one time nomodeset, what would be the path to take from here? install grub to /boot/efi again?
[12:17] <auronandace> tenc: when you say doesn't signal updates what do you mean? i use xchat and when someone messages me it turns blue (if i'm looking at a different app)
[12:17]  * ActionParsnip has been using Pidgin since forever :)
[12:18] <tenc> @auronandace that's exactly what I mean... I don't get that behavior in unity 13.04/xchat 2.8.8.
[12:18] <tenc> Is that something that needs to be additionally configured?
[12:19] <auronandace> tenc: i use the normal xchat from the repos, i don't know if xchat-gnome does the same
[12:20] <rgupta> ActionParsnip, any other option?
[12:21] <auronandace> rgupta: what makes you so sure someone was in your machine remotely?
[12:21] <rgupta> auronandace, because my mouse went out of my control ... and on my eclipse some junk was being typed
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> rgupta: does the x11vnc service have a log file in /var/log ?
[12:23] <wessel> Can anyone make a suggestion for not making Firefox crash, often times it crashes on youtube videos?
[12:24] <Rory> wessel: Open it from a terminal and see if there's an error when it crashes
[12:24] <swaagie> agamad luv you escape key :)
[12:24] <rgupta> ActionParsnip, i dont see any x11vnc service log file in /var/log
[12:26] <swaagie> whoop whoop got ubuntu 13 working on a uefi system :)
[12:26] <swaagie> got that was a pain
[12:26] <swaagie> god*
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> rgupta: check its config file, see if logging is enabled
[12:27] <wessel> What do you do when your entire machine gets unresponsive, but numkey on keyboard can still change light from green to off ?
[12:27] <wessel> Alt + Ctrl + Del didn't work
[12:27] <Rory> wessel: Can you change to a different TTY with Ctrl+Alt+F5
[12:27] <njsg> is there any way I can change the keymaps (including extended ones) that get loaded for the text consoles
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> wessel: does CTRL+ALT+F1 work?
[12:27] <njsg> that is, to automate what I'd do normally with loadkeys?
[12:27] <njsg> I'm growing tired of having a caps lock in the vlock terminal
[12:28] <Rory> njsg: You could put your loadkeys commands in .bashrc
[12:28] <njsg> Rory: that only works if you log in one of the terminals *and* you have permissions to do that
[12:28] <Rory> njsg: You should have permission to edit your own .bashrc
[12:28] <njsg> Rory: ...
[12:29] <njsg> Rory: but not always do I have permission to change the terminal keymap
[12:29] <njsg> some other distros have system-wide configuration files under /etc that will be used to invoke loadkeys, debian uses a generated keymap file that gets loaded, so you could effectively "compile" your own file
[12:29] <njsg> and this gets loaded during boot
[12:29] <Rory> njsg: sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup
[12:30] <Oxymoron> Hi, I want to increase max size of a dynamicaly increasing vdi harddrive. It doesnt work with VboxManage modifyhd lol.vdi --resize MB_SIZE ... How do I?
[12:31] <Rory> Oxymoron: Please ask in #vbox this is the Ubuntu support channel
[12:32] <njsg__> Rory: that does not ask anything about the keyboard layout
[12:32] <njsg__> just font and charsets
[12:32] <rgupta> ActionParsnip, the logs are enabled but it was last updated on Sept 2nd
[12:32] <Oxymoron> Rory: I did, but no answer ...
[12:33] <Tausen> ActionParsnip: Just did some testing and found someone with the same issue on launchpad: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/1185285
[12:33] <Rory> njsg__: Under Origin of the keyboard select the correct layout.
[12:33] <Rory> Oxymoron: You have to ask in the correct channel and wait for an answer
[12:33] <Oxymoron> Rory: It should be possible to resize a freaking vhd file in Ubuntu.
[12:33] <Rory> Oxymoron: ubuntu, Windows, whatever, it's a Virtualbox support question
[12:33] <Tausen> ActionParsnip: It is claimed that it was fixed in "fglrx-installer" - is this a package I'm supposed to be able to install?
[12:34] <Rory> Oxymoron: It might help if you expanded with more details: what Ubuntu version are you running, and what error do you get?
[12:34] <Oxymoron> Rory: Not really, vhd is standard file for Virtual hdds.
[12:34] <Tausen> ActionParsnip: I also tried the version.h symbolic link but that gives me a lot of "implicit decleration" errors, so I'm suspecting I'm using the wrong version.h file
[12:34] <auronandace> Oxymoron: they would more likely know better how to help you
[12:36] <Oxymoron> auronandace: Yes I know, just saying its not really a pure VB question. Anyhow, seem to get some action in vbox channel now.
[12:36] <Oxymoron> Rory: Also I run latest Ubuntu 13.10 I think it is, not errors or anything.
[12:37] <njsg> Rory: what "origin of the keyboard"?
[12:37] <Rory> !13.10 | Oxymoron I'll support you in #vbox
[12:43] <ircsa> what's the lastest version
[12:44] <ircsa> i find the 12 lame
[12:44] <Pici> ircsa: The latest supported version is 13.04.
[12:44] <njsg> Rory: configuring console-common lets me choose *one* keymap
[12:44] <Pici> 13.10 will be releasing next month.
[12:44] <njsg> good but still not the whole thing :-|
[12:44] <ircsa> the 11 seems professional
[12:45] <Rory> ircsa: The latest version is 13.04, the latest Long-Term-Support version is 12.04
[12:45] <ircsa> everthing works fine but this 12 and above
[12:45] <Pici> ircsa: neither 11.04 nor 11.10 are supported anymore.
[12:46] <ircsa> i can't even create a text file using left mouse click on 12
[12:46] <njsg> the problem is that I use "loadkeys fi ctrl" (or "loadkeys fi ctrl.inc" depending on the implementation of loadkeys)
[12:46] <aokmanga> hi all!
[12:47] <aokmanga> i'm trying to install ubuntu on my macbook replacing osx, let's see if i'll be able to do it :)
[12:47] <ircsa> it's ubuntu abandon ?
[12:48] <aokmanga> yesterday i had some problems with a 12.04 cd i own so i'm trying the latest version and let's see, i'll ask some support for partitioning :)
[12:48] <hudini> hello guys
[12:48] <hudini> i have a question
[12:48] <aokmanga> hi hudini
[12:48] <hudini> how to find all text files on my hard disk in linux ?
[12:48] <aokmanga> in linux or in ubuntu?
[12:48] <aokmanga> anyway try to search for *.txt
[12:48] <Rory> hudini: find / -type f -name '*.txt'
[12:49] <hudini> yes thanks :D
[12:50] <njsg__> note that text files are usually extension-less in the UNIX world, .txt is more of a windows thing
[12:50] <reisio> Unix!
[12:50] <reisio> but for some reason they do awful things like 'README' in all caps
[12:50]  * reisio rolls eyes
[12:50] <aokmanga> ahah :D
[12:50] <Rory> reisio: If you download a tarball with 40 files in, being able to easily find the README is a godsend.
[12:51] <Gentoo64> its like its shouting at you
[12:51] <njsg> "they"? you are using ubuntu, and you say "they"...
[12:51] <reisio> it's like it's shouting at you and making it harder to cat
[12:51] <Rory> reisio: All-caps really sticks out in an ls listing, also INSTALL is usually named like that
[12:51] <reisio> they should make it a broken symlink, then
[12:51] <njsg> README, INSTALL, COPYING -- very important installation/distribution information are pretty much the only ones I see in all-caps
[12:51] <Gentoo64> UPDATING
[12:51] <njsg> and with a good reason, you *want* to spot them from far away
[12:51] <hudini> what if i deleted a text file would it be possible to recover it ? and what kind of software do i need to do that
[12:51] <reisio> HARDERTOTYPE
[12:51] <aokmanga> someone has ubuntu on a mac?
[12:52] <reisio> hudini: is that a theoretical question? :p
[12:52] <reisio> aokmanga: someone, sure
[12:52] <njsg> reisio: just go for bash, you'll be maybe surprised to find it uses GNU readline, with the normal keybindings do meta+u (alt+u) and you'll see how hard it is
[12:52] <aokmanga> someone of the talking one at the moment :D
[12:52] <njsg> reisio: writing a name in caps for me is a matter of writing it, meta+b, meta+u, meta+f
[12:53] <reisio> njsg: hrmm?
[12:54] <Rory> hudini: It's not easy to recover deleted files or guarenteed, so I will go into it only if you need to
[12:54] <njsg> reisio: try it, fire GNU bash and try doing that with a word
[12:54] <njsg> hudini: with text files, hexdump should suffice, if it's not too big of a file
[12:54] <njsg> depends on the filesystem. just don't forget the golden rule of data recovery. back the filesystem up and work on the image
[12:55] <reisio> njsg: doing what?
[12:56] <hudini> Rory and reisio i think that i might have deleted a text file i need ,am not just asking random quesitions i need that file i know that i can recover files even if i formated my hard disk with and installed another operation system on it , i know that over-writing files is a bad idea (and then recover them) but i need any software name that can do that in linux (the recovery job)
[12:56] <Rory> hudini: You might not need to, what file did you delete, was it a system file?
[12:57] <Pici> !undelete
[12:57] <hudini> no just a .txt file
[12:57] <reisio> hudini: well first you should stop making writes to the FS
[12:57] <reisio> hudini: then read ubottu's stuff
[12:57] <hudini> ok thanks .. i'll see what i can do..
[13:01] <Kaco> afternoon
[13:01] <StarFlower> Software updater just opened but wont let me view it it is only in the launcher
[13:02] <reisio> Kaco: mornin'
[13:02] <StarFlower> is that normal or should I try to close and re-open it
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> StarFlower: tried maximizing the window?
[13:04] <StarFlower> ActionParsnip, Yes I did, i finally just closed it and reopened it
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> StarFlower: makes sense, not used it myself. I just use apt-get :)
[13:05] <StarFlower> Is 13.04 lts
[13:05] <ActionParsnip> StarFlower: well, apt-fast
[13:08] <StarFlower> I guess it isnt I thought all .04 releases were LTS releases
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> StarFlower: every other .04 is
[13:08] <ActionParsnip> StarFlower: 8.04, 10.04, 12.04
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> StarFlower: next LTS is next year 20(14) in April (4)th month.
[13:10] <StarFlower> Ok Thank you ActionParsnip
[13:10] <UserError> Can someone in raring or greater do me a quick favor? Can you type in sudo add-apt-repository universe multiverse
[13:11] <UserError> then give me the output
[13:11] <kalekip1> !ot | UserError
[13:12] <UserError> This is for support
[13:12] <UserError> Please check your dev mailing list
[13:12] <kalekip1> For?
[13:12] <kalekip1> It still belongs to offtopic, though.
[13:13] <UserError> A bug or forgetful backport / unspecified / undoc'd behavior of the python 2 vs 3 split in software-properties / common
[13:14] <UserError> Guess who's fixing it?
[13:15] <UserError> Since their guidelines specifically say not to use 2to3 or 3to2 I am asking for output behavior to do it from scratch.
[13:15] <kalekip1> UserError: http://pastebin.com/5HBDxNJU
[13:15] <kalekip1> oops
[13:15] <kalekip1> wrong one
[13:15] <kalekip1> UserError: Error: need a repository as argument
[13:16] <UserError> You're in 13.04?
[13:16] <kalekip1> Ya
[13:16] <UserError> Odd
[13:16] <JoBArTe_Skuld> hi guys xD
[13:16] <kalekip1> You still should go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[13:16] <UserError> kk
[13:16] <ikonia> kalekip1: he's asking for support
[13:16] <kalekip1> Welcome, JoBArTe_Skuld.
[13:16] <peho> can somebody help me with mod_passenger.so: undefined symbol: unixd_config
[13:16] <ikonia> UserError: you're fine here
[13:17] <ikonia> UserError: you're trying to work through an ubuntu issues yes ?
[13:17] <peho> in ubuntu 12.04
[13:17] <JoBArTe_Skuld> its possible to apache serve pages when your wwwroot is in a encrypted folder?
[13:17] <ikonia> JoBArTe_Skuld: yes, as it will be unencypted on boot
[13:17] <StarFlower> Have to restarb BRB
[13:17] <JoBArTe_Skuld> [ikonia]: is possible to apache access this folder using a pass or key?
[13:17] <UserError> Yes, i'm trying to get a feature that won't be backported in an LTS that will live longer than the versions that have said feature which fixes an issue ubuntu has from the start of no sane way to add or flip repo switches from stock
[13:17] <ikonia> JoBArTe_Skuld: no,
[13:17] <JoBArTe_Skuld> :(
[13:18] <JoBArTe_Skuld> [ikonia]: thanks \o\
[13:18] <ikonia> JoBArTe_Skuld: it needs to be decrypted on mount
[13:18] <ikonia> UserError: you're on thin ground to to get unsupported features working, but at the same time, if someone can help, go for it
[13:18] <UserError> I've been porting part of SoftwareProperties.py and other files BACK to Py2 and want to dupe the same behavior because 13.04+ (maybe 12.10 as well?) has a sane policy.
[13:21] <Rust3dCor3> Hi! Does anyone knows how to make irssi working on secure connection? I've been trying to do so, but still the /whois do not post any information about connection security. I'm writing from xchat now
[13:21] <ikonia> Rust3dCor3: a secure connection will still offer your details
[13:22] <ikonia> Rust3dCor3: you need to join #freenode and ask for a cloak
[13:22] <Rust3dCor3> ok
[13:22] <Rust3dCor3> ty for info.. ill go there
[13:22] <cariveri> Hi. gnome-tweak tool dont let me pick a shell theme. how to enable?
[13:29] <chrisTr87> if someone is interested in, I found something about my problem: detection of usb devices at ubuntu :)
[13:29] <chrisTr87> i mean how ubuntu detects them
[13:33] <chrisTr87> I just have a last question. Does someone know how ubuntu detects that a device is connected? I mean if you connect an usb stick you get a message that its connected. There must be an event or something like this
[13:34] <chrisTr87> if you can tell me a file which is important for it, I could check the source code on my own, but I dont know which file :)
[13:35] <ikonia> chrisTr87: it works from dbus and udev
[13:36] <chrisTr87> so udevlib is the one i could need?
[13:36] <Richie086> you mean like a log file?
[13:36] <ikonia> chrisTr87: what are you trying to do ?
[13:36] <chrisTr87> I'm starting with my bachelor thesis which has to do with usb detection on ubuntu
[13:37] <chrisTr87> maybe we will work with debian later but at the moment its on ubuntu
[13:37] <chrisTr87> but its just a part of it
[13:37] <chrisTr87> I need to understand how ubuntu detects usb devices
[13:38] <swaagie> how can I find out what is requiring me to set nomodeset for each boot even after installing the open source intel graphic drivers etc?
[13:38] <boneslash> Hi guys what a wonderful day :)
[13:39] <chrisTr87> ikonia: you read?:)
[13:39] <ikonia> chrisTr87: I did
[13:39] <ikonia> chrisTr87: keep in mind the events come from the kernel
[13:39] <boneslash> I think you can't give me a help and because I have downloaded Ubuntu 13.10 and in this channel is only support for 13.04 and lower versions, such a shame :( xD
[13:40] <chrisTr87> ikonia: i need to write a program which detects an usb stick and collects media files out of it
[13:40] <chrisTr87> ikonia: then it should read the id3-tags and write them into a database
[13:40] <faugusztin> chrisTr87: you don't detect USB stick. you add a udev rule to handle insertion of that device, and that calls your program
[13:40] <ikonia> ok ?
[13:40] <chrisTr87> thats the programming part of my thesis
[13:41] <chrisTr87> yes :) thx
[13:41] <chrisTr87> i think this could be interesting or not? http://www.freedesktop.org/software/systemd/libudev/libudev-udev-monitor.html
[13:41] <cariveri> Is it possible to add one partitions space to another ones?
[13:41] <Rory> cariveri: You have to delete the rightmost partition and resize the other to fill the newly created free space
[13:42] <chrisTr87> ikonia: maybe i will make a program for android, too
[13:42] <chrisTr87> ikonia : with the same functions and then I need to make benchmark tests on a panda board
[13:42] <chrisTr87> ikonia: with each system
[13:43] <cariveri> Rory: thanks. but its more like sda6(free),7(boot),8(/). can I add 6 to 8 ?
[13:43] <Rory> no cariveri
[13:44] <cariveri> Rory: no way to shift 7 and 8 ?
[13:45] <ActionParsnip> cariveri: or mount the partition to a folder in the other
[13:45] <cariveri> ActionParsnip: what do yo mean? I dont see how that would help
[13:46] <mackwerk> I need to run a script on an ec2 ubuntu instance on reboot but it has to wait for some processes to be available like s3cmd and postgres, what is the best way to do that? :o
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> cariveri: well the space would be used but accessible from a folder
[13:46] <ActionParsnip> cariveri: the linux file system is flat, not like windows with stupid drive letters
[13:47] <aquarat> Can anyone suggest a good way of storing files on LTO5 tape using Ubuntu ?
[13:47] <ikonia> aquarat: tar ?
[13:47] <ikonia> aquarat: cpio ?
[13:47] <aquarat> I've tried tar but the device "shoeshines"
[13:47] <ActionParsnip> cariveri: you mount the file system to a folder and you see the data but the mount point also tells the kernel which partition to put the data on
[13:47] <ikonia> shoe shines
[13:47] <ikonia> ?
[13:47] <aquarat> yes, buffer underruns
[13:47] <aquarat> the source disk is fast enough to support the data rate
[13:47] <Rory> !upstart | mackwerk
[13:48] <Rory> mackwerk: You need to write an upstart script, and you can tell it to wait until other services have started
[13:48] <aquarat> I was thinking of maybe buffering the output to the tape drive in some way
[13:48] <aquarat> maybe using pv
[13:48] <ActionParsnip> cariveri: so you could mount a partition to ~/Pictures and when you put files in that folder it will go on the partition
[13:48] <chrisTr87> faugusztin:  thanks, I was searching for udev rules, I think this could help me, too :)
[13:48] <mackwerk> Rory, ah but ofcourse! Thanks, don't know why I didn't think about that myself. Can upstart start by itself on reboots?
[13:48] <Rory> mackwerk: Yes, upstart is how services are defined
[13:49] <Rory> mackwerk: It's the replacement for the old init scripts
[13:49] <chrisTr87> faugusztin: I have to say that I just used ubuntu for programming at the moment. I don't have much knowledge of these things at the moment
[13:50] <cariveri> ActionParsnip: sounds like splitting the free space partition into several ones to mount them to folders, like /var, /usr . home is already outsourced that way.
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> cariveri: same deal, you can mount partitions as you wish
[13:51] <ActionParsnip> cariveri: just not in /proc :)
[13:51] <cariveri> ActionParsnip: did oyu mean something else before?
[13:52] <ActionParsnip> cariveri: then you dont need to put merge the partitions, just mount one as a folder and use it
[13:53] <cariveri> ActionParsnip: well its about resizing / partition which I planned too small it seems.
[13:53] <cariveri> ActionParsnip: Ihave got plenty of sorage for my data, but the filesystem has to use it.
[13:54] <ActionParsnip> cariveri: could boot liveCD and do stuff
[13:55] <cariveri> ActionParsnip: I am about todo so anyways. but would I get the system partition to use the new one.
[13:55] <ActionParsnip> cariveri: use in what way?
[13:57] <cariveri> ActionParsnip: in the way that I dont have to care. I could create a /var partition. but that does not guarantee that the filesystem has got enough when the next huge upgrade comes or so.
[13:57] <ActionParsnip> cariveri: how big is the partition?
[13:58] <benzrf> hicorey:
[13:58] <benzrf> *hi
[13:58] <benzrf> i have no sound; amixer and pavucontrol both report 100% as 0db
[13:58] <benzrf> it's not muted
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> benzrf: what is the output of: wget -O alsa-info.sh http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-info.sh && chmod +x ./alsa-info.sh && ./alsa-info.sh --upload
[13:59] <benzrf> ActionParsnip: are you sure that's a good idea
[13:59] <benzrf> i.e. wgetting scripts
[13:59] <ActionParsnip> benzrf: look at the source...
[13:59] <benzrf> ok
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> benzrf: its also in the OFFICIAL Ubuntu sound troubleshooting page
[14:00] <benzrf> OkropNick:
[14:00] <benzrf> *ok
[14:00] <benzrf> ugh
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> benzrf: need any more proof it is ok
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> ?
[14:00] <benzrf> bash has trained me to press tab after typing anything
[14:00] <benzrf> ._>
[14:00] <FloodBot1> benzrf: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:00] <cariveri> ActionParsnip: the perfect scenarion I think is: I copy /boot partition to new one at the beginning of the free space + nwe mount point. then I delete the old /boot partition and resize / to get the succeeding space. is that possible?
[14:00] <benzrf> ok,  it ran
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> benzrf: with paranoia like that I'm surprised you connect to the internet
[14:00] <benzrf> what should I do now
[14:00] <ActionParsnip> benzrf: what is the URL it made?
[14:00] <swaagie> shouldn't onboard intel wireless etc be found automagically, could fail due to this being a rather new board and all, any way I could discriminate?
[14:00] <benzrf> ActionParsnip: sorry i didn't look at the url :p
[14:01] <benzrf> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=ce92cf55185192947a8e9e3b92ddb0ddab967652
[14:01] <ActionParsnip> benzrf: maybe you should, read then comment rather than comment then read....
[14:01] <benzrf> ;p
[14:01] <benzrf> sorry
[14:03] <ActionParsnip> benzrf: run:  echo "options snd-hda-intel model=ref" | sudo tee -a /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf > /dev/null
[14:04] <Plouj> Is there a way to install linux-image-2.6-686 inside a wheezy chroot such that it wouldn't call update-grub (which currently fails for me)?
[14:04] <benzrf> sound still off
[14:04] <ActionParsnip> benzrf: reboot to test
[14:04] <benzrf> oh
[14:04] <benzrf> this wasn't a persistant problem
[14:04] <benzrf> :|
[14:04] <benzrf> it's been fine, it was just this boot
[14:04] <benzrf> sorry if I gave the wrong impression
[14:04] <benzrf> ._>
[14:04] <Rory> Plouj: You could temporarily move update-grub away, and then symlink /bin/true to it
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> benzrf: oh, then remove the line and run:  killall pulseaudio; rm -r ~/.config/pulse*
[14:05] <sab3r> exit
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> benzrf: yes, details are useful.....
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> benzrf: can you please give FULL details so people dont waste time as you drip feed them detais which maks there efforts worthless
[14:06] <benzrf> sorry :/
[14:07] <benzrf> ran the killall/rm, nothing
[14:07] <Rjujq> hi all
[14:07] <reisio> hi
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> benzrf: was the line still in the file (the echo command added a line), did you remove it like I suggested?
[14:08] <benzrf> yep
[14:08] <ActionParsnip> benzrf: ok, try the line add and reboot
[14:08] <benzrf> wait
[14:08] <benzrf> wtf
[14:09] <benzrf> pavucontrol is blipping properly
[14:09] <benzrf> even though it claims negative decibels
[14:09] <benzrf> ??
[14:09] <ActionParsnip> if it makes noises who cares
[14:09] <benzrf> :)
[14:09] <benzrf> well, the media buttons aren't blipping
[14:09] <Rory> benzrf: 0db is maximum volume, all others are shown as negative
[14:09] <benzrf> which is a bit annoying
[14:09] <benzrf> Rory: yep
[14:09] <benzrf> Rory: well, that's when it's *muted* isn 't it
[14:10] <Rory> benzrf: No, that's a standard way of reporting volume
[14:10] <benzrf> ...huh
[14:10] <Rory> Don't worry about it. 0db = 100%
[14:11] <benzrf> thanks :>
[14:18] <StarFlower> Can I ask questions about XChat here
[14:19] <Plouj> Rory: Interesting idea...
[14:20] <compdoc> StarFlower, ask. maybe someone will know
[14:21] <StarFlower> For some reason everytime I reboot the computer Xchat doesnt remember my username
[14:21] <Rory> StarFlower: How are you setting the username?
[14:21] <StarFlower> in the network list when it pops up
[14:22] <Rory> You will have to save that network then, after you put in your username
[14:23] <Rory> Otherwise it will use the default name every time
[14:23] <StarFlower> ok how do I do that
[14:23] <Rory> That I don't know, probably a button that says Save
[14:24] <Pici> StarFlower: There is also #xchat here on freenode, which might be a better place to ask..
[14:25] <hitsujiTMO> StarFlower: I would recommend installing HexChat as an alternative to XChat ... contains a lot of improvements over XChat
[14:25] <StarFlower> Pici, thanks
[14:26] <StarFlower> hitsujiTMO, Never heard of it I'll look at it
[14:44] <king_dukE> #
[14:44] <king_dukE> HELLO WORLD
[14:44] <ARW0> HELLO king_dukE
[14:46] <awaken_> hello
[14:47] <reisio> 'lo
[14:47] <king_dukE> I'm sticking with Ubuntu 13.04 for now.
[14:48] <king_dukE> Ubuntu 11.04-12.10 was un-usable for me.
[14:48] <Myrtti> king_dukE: well, yes. It is the latest version, so it's not unexpected that there are improvements in it.
[14:50] <king_dukE> hella lots of improvements. Softwear center and updates were my bigest issues before.
[14:50] <Ari-Yang> king_dukE, updating from 11.04 to 12.10 doesn't make any sense.... Seeing how you aren't using LTS, might as well install 13.04
[14:50] <xen_> i have installed nvidia drivers to my box now my plymouth animation is glitched please anyone has fix to make it fine
[14:50] <Ari-Yang> king_dukE, you'll be updating to 13.10 next month I think :b
[14:50] <mieczyslaf> i need to find some program wich will provide information about network transfer, and where i can make limit of transfers and set alarms
[14:50] <mieczyslaf> help please
[14:50] <king_dukE> I came back to ubuntu from mint
[14:51] <king_dukE> help with what?
[14:51] <Ari-Yang> mieczyslaf, tbh I'm not sure... but while I wait I suggest you google and see what you can find
[14:51] <xen_> anyone help me
[14:51] <king_dukE> with what?
[14:52] <king_dukE> I'll be back, someone took my screen name
[14:54] <xen_>  i have installed nvidia drivers to my box now my plymouth animation is glitched please anyone has fix to make it fine
[14:54] <xen_> please help me
[14:54] <Ari-Yang> !repeat > xen_
[14:55] <xen_> oh ok !
[14:56] <ASRU> im back
[14:57] <ActionParsnip> xen_: its a known issue, you can hack your OS to show plymouth, or just let it be as it is only a boot splash
[14:57] <xen_> please guide to how to do it?
[14:58] <ASRU> ???
[14:58] <swaagie> why would I be required to set nomodeset even if I installed intel graphic drivers, confused as to what is fucking up atm
[14:58] <StarFlower> what is a good theme website for ubuntu
[14:58] <ASRU> google
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> xen_: ive used this in the past: http://idyllictux.wordpress.com/2010/04/26/lucidubuntu-10-04-high-resolution-plymouth-virtual-terminal-for-atinvidia-cards-with-proprietaryrestricted-driver/
[14:59] <k1l> !google | ASRU
[14:59] <BluesKaj> swaagie, cursing isn't necessary , read the COC
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> !theme | swaagie
[14:59] <Oxymoron> I recently exeperienced problem with lightdm. Suddenly froozen my mouse pointer, but keyboard still worked. Switched desktop and restarted lightdm, and then it works again. Does somebody recognize?
[14:59] <swaagie> I dont want themes :P
[14:59] <swaagie> BluesKaj: nah your right sorry, but this is getting a bit frustrating atm
[14:59] <ASRU> http://gnome-look.org
[14:59] <ActionParsnip> xen_: i dont know how much it applies now, personally (considering how trivial it is). I'd leave it as. It doesnt hurt anything
[15:00] <geneller2> Hi everyone, can anybody help me? yesterday I was trying to setup compiz but something went wrong and now I can't login to my account
[15:01] <xen_> ActionParsnip: It does not work as my screen's resolution is 1366*768
[15:01] <ASRU> geneller2: Did you reboot like that???
[15:01] <ActionParsnip> xen_: maybe not under the fb driver
[15:01] <geneller2> yes, I've tried several things
[15:01] <k1l> geneller2: does another user work?
[15:01] <xen_> i think i should remove it >_<
[15:02] <xen_> and make my boot more informational
[15:02] <geneller2> k11: yes, I created a new user from console and it works
[15:02] <swaagie> what is even more confusing is that I can put in a completely malformed xorg.conf (configuration fails due to too many screens vs found devices) and it will show up nicely... be it with vesa drivers probably as it is slow, still need nomodeset though
[15:02] <ASRU> geneller2: can you log into it???
[15:03] <geneller2> ASRU: the new user? yes
[15:04] <k1l> geneller2: log into that other user and delete the latest .xml files in /home/old-user/.compiz/session/
[15:04] <geneller2> When input my password for the old account, it seems like working, the screens goes black and get back to the login form
[15:04] <ActionParsnip> geneller2: if you press CTRL+ALT+F1 and log in there, are you the owner of all of your home folder
[15:05] <ASRU> go into terminal
[15:05] <ActionParsnip> geneller2: you can also reset compiz settings from there too
[15:05] <ASRU> BRB
[15:06] <geneller2> ActionParsnip: yes, when I press CTRL + ALT + F1, I own the home folder
[15:06] <geneller2> K11: let me try
[15:07] <jgornick> Hey guys, is there an alternative to something like https://github.com/turnkeylinux/confconsole
[15:10] <geneller2> k1l: I can't find that folder, /home/old-user/.compiz
[15:11] <k1l> geneller2: as old-user you need to put you old-users nick in there
[15:12] <k1l> and you need the root rights. i guess you better log into a tty (with ctrl+alt+f1) and login as the old user and remove that new files from there. back to gui brings you crtl+alt+f7
[15:17] <geneller2> hahaha, no no I get it, I was searching for /home/geneller/.compiz
[15:18] <swaagie> geneller2: do you own Xauthority and ICEauthority?
[15:18] <swaagie> both prepended with . should be in your home folder
[15:18] <xen_> e
[15:19] <jtrucks> so, no talkfilters in modern distros?
[15:19]  * jtrucks pouts
[15:20] <geneller2> swaagie: this is the output for ll:
[15:20] <geneller2> -rw-------  1 root     root            56 Sep 18 22:59 .Xauthority
[15:20] <geneller2> -rw-------  2 geneller geneller         0 Sep 18 23:07 .Xauthority-c
[15:20] <geneller2> -rw-------  2 geneller geneller         0 Sep 18 23:07 .Xauthority-l
[15:20] <geneller2> ICEauthority doesn't exist
[15:22] <swaagie> geneller2: sudo chown geneller.geneller .Xauthority
[15:22] <StarFlower> rhythmbox wont let me add music
[15:22] <k-joseph> ikonia: hi, greetings :)
[15:22] <geneller2> k1l: I logged into the old-user (using CTRL + ALT + F1) but I still can't find the folder /home/geneller/.compiz
[15:24] <Luyin> swaagie: It should be geneller:geneller, shoudn't it?
[15:24] <geneller2> swaagie: I don't think it worked, I still getting this
[15:24] <geneller2> -rw-------  1 root     root            56 Sep 18 22:59 .Xauthority
[15:24] <swaagie> hmm nah then the command didn't work
[15:24] <swaagie> Luyin: either is fine
[15:24] <swaagie> afaik
[15:24] <Luyin> ah ok
[15:25] <Luyin> geneller2: you could try my suggestion
[15:25] <swaagie> geneller2: that file shouldn't belong to root though
[15:25] <geneller2> Luyin: I ran both but neither worked
[15:25] <Luyin> ok
[15:25] <swaagie> any other errors that popped up with the `chownz
[15:25] <swaagie> chown
[15:25] <geneller2> no, no errors
[15:26] <swaagie> geneller2: hmm you could try with geneller:geneller like Luyin suggested
[15:26] <ActionParsnip> geneller2: do you run commands like 'sudo gedit' and 'sudo nautilus'
[15:27] <geneller2> swaagie: I used cd to locate myself into the /home/geneller folder, ran the command again and it worked
[15:27] <pip__> If I install from 12.04 non-pae mini iso & then add a window manager & stuff do I get 5 years support?
[15:27] <Rory> pip__: Yes
[15:28] <pip__> most excellent, thanks for the clarification :)
[15:28] <ActionParsnip> geneller2: do you run commands like 'sudo gedit' and 'sudo nautilus'?
[15:29] <yeehi> Is there a better alternative to TightVNC?
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> yeehi: most things, yes
[15:29] <darkmatter178> hello you fucking niggers, how's it nigging today you fucking cunts :) <3 (I love you, cocks)
[15:29] <swaagie> geneller2: eh hehe, thought that would speak for itself, sorry :)
[15:29] <ActionParsnip> yeehi: why are you connecting to the remote system, what do you do once you connect to the desktop session?
[15:30] <geneller2> ActionParsnip: yes I can run those commands, why?
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> geneller2: no the question is "do you" not "can you"
[15:30] <ActionParsnip> geneller2: in the past, have you used those commands on this install as your user?
[15:30] <miketeevee> can someone please help me with a fork() issue?   in 10.04 LTS, a fork() does not copy all of the ram, but in 12.04.3 LTS it does copy all of the ram.  how can i get back to 10.04 LTS behavior?  i'm not doing any writes to the forked memory, so COW shouldn't apply
[15:30] <geneller2> ActionParsnip: no, I haven't need to
[15:31] <ActionParsnip> geneller2: interesting, as those comamnds would do that
[15:32] <geneller2> swaagie: hahaha, don't worry, but I still can't log in
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> geneller2: install xfce4 in the console and then log in to the XFCE session, is it ok?
[15:33] <yeehi> ActionParsnip, for example, launch a MS Office application...
[15:33] <ActionParsnip> yeehi: what OS is the server you are connecting to?
[15:34] <geneller2> downloading..
[15:34] <ActionParsnip> yeehi: is it a windows box?
[15:35] <yeehi> I would like to be able to connect to a variety of boxes, Ubuntu, Windows...
[15:35] <ActionParsnip> yeehi: is the system you are running the MS Office app on a windows box?
[15:36] <anonymous_>  kdkn lsac
[15:36] <D`Fam> !scan
[15:36] <D`Fam> !scans
[15:36] <miketeevee> is there an ubuntu server help channel?
[15:36] <Rory> miketeevee: #ubuntu-server
[15:36] <reisio> yeehi: tigervnc :)
[15:39] <geneller2> well, now I can log into the old-user account, but I don't see anything but the desktop
[15:39] <geneller2> no menu, no dash home button
[15:40] <k-joseph> ActionParsnip: hi, greetings :)
[15:40] <jgornick> Hey guys, is there something out there that presents a user with a configuration screen or a status screen after an Ubuntu virtual appliance is booted? In my VM window, I would like to see a summary of system information, primarily network information.
[15:40] <ActionParsnip> k-joseph: howdy
[15:40] <Rory> geneller2: gconftool-2 --recursive-unset /apps/compiz-1 && unity --reset
[15:40] <Rory> geneller2: That will remove your Unity and Compiz settings to default
[15:41] <D`Fam> speak indonesian Rory :-)
[15:41] <k-joseph> good
[15:42] <Rory> Sorry D`Fam ?
[15:42] <D`Fam> okay
[15:43] <Rory> D`Fam: Are you trying to get a scanner working?
[15:43] <geneller2> Rory: failed to connect to D-BUS deamon
[15:44] <Rory> geneller2: What ubuntu version are you using?
[15:44] <geneller2> 12.04
[15:45] <Rory> geneller2: Try then jsut: unity --reset
[15:45] <geneller2> Rory: the same error
[15:47] <Rory> geneller2: I think you still need to fix permissions in your home directory. Try the command: "sudo chown -R username:username /home/username/.*"
[15:49] <geneller2> I got it
[15:49] <geneller2> let me reboot my pc for a minute, I'll be back
[15:50] <ASRU> back
[15:50] <ASRU> ok i need some help
[15:50] <ASRU> HELP
[15:51] <ASRU> HELP
[15:52] <kalekip1> !expert | ASRU
[15:52] <kalekip1> !details | ASRU
[15:52] <ASRU> Tor is not working right with proxychains
[15:52] <ASRU> when I run the tor command
[15:52] <MonkeyDust> tor is overrated
[15:52] <D`Fam> !ping me
[15:52] <ASRU> I use it to route. not hax
[15:53] <jhutchins>  Didn't we just hear that the NSA actually seeds malware and back-doored TOR servers?
[15:53] <ASRU> Im trying to setup a tor server
[15:53] <ASRU> I got my configs setup
[15:53] <jibreel> guys there is an issue in ubuntu 13.04 that is driving me nuts
[15:54] <jhutchins> jgornick: Pretty easy to script something like that.
[15:54] <zenpac> how can I install ubuntu on a headless system, is there some sort of vnc installer?
[15:54] <jgornick> jhutchins: Have you seen anything like https://github.com/turnkeylinux/confconsole or would know how to install something like that on 12.04?
[15:54] <ASRU> tor says 9050 is open, and it is, put the process isn't running
[15:54] <ASRU> so it closes
[15:54] <ASRU> WTF?
[15:55] <jibreel> when i go fullscreen on an application(f11), i can't use the application switcher(alt-tab) it just doesn't show
[15:55] <geneller2> I'm back, well now I'm from my old user account
[15:55] <ASRU> tor says 9050 is open, and it is, put the process isn't running
[15:55] <Rory> jibreel: What application? Firefox? F11 isn't a generic "fullscreen" command, only in Mozilla applications I think
[15:55] <erle-> if i use dpgk to install a newer version of an installed package, does it automatically update (i.e. deleting the old version and replacing)
[15:55] <ne2k> I've been installing 12.04.3 server on multiple servers using PXE booted netboot image. It's all working great, but for some reason, when they're finished, they come up with 3.2.0-53-generic kernel, rather than the 3.8 one that is installed when installing from the 12.04.3 CD. is this expected?
[15:55] <jhutchins> jibreel: Correct.  That is the expected behavior.
[15:55] <geneller2> but I have nothing to work with, to open firefox I create an script, typed "firefox" into it, gave it run permissions
[15:56] <ASRU> man pages for tor don't talk about that
[15:56] <geneller2> but I can't do anything else
[15:56] <jibreel> jhutchins: realy ? why ? and can i change this ?
[15:56] <Vanfanel> Hello there! Is it possible to have two versions of the same package installed? When I do "apt-cache show libgbm-dev" I see TWO verions of the same package: http://pastebin.com/MPQGBx0A
[15:56] <Vanfanel> Are both versions installed?
[15:56] <Rory> Vanfanel: They'#re not both installed
[15:56] <jibreel> Rory: any application actualy
[15:57] <Rory> Vanfanel: They are both available, and the package is available from two different sources (in this case, the main repo, and X-SWAT PPA)
[15:57] <ASRU> nessus install help
[15:57] <jhutchins> Vanfanel: If you make part of the version number part of the package name (as far as dpkg knows) then yes, and if you install in seperate paths that works.
[15:57] <ne2k> Vanfanel: apt-cache doesn't show you what is installed, it shows you what is available from the package lists you currently have
[15:57] <Vanfanel> Then.. how can I install one of the packages? How can I chose?
[15:58] <tomc603> I'm having a problem with indicator-messages: When I receive a new IM, the indicator icon does not turn blue. I have re-installed empathy, indicator-messages, and several of the lib dependencies I've found...but still nothing.
[15:58] <ne2k> Vanfanel: apt-get install <package-name>
[15:58] <jhutchins> jibreel: If you maximise the window, you can still switch, but fullscreen takes over the display and display manager.
[15:58] <tomc603> I've also confirmed "empathy.desktop" is in my dconf settings for the indicator/messages config.
[15:58] <Vanfanel> aha, by the exact name.. right! thanks!
[15:58] <tomc603> Any ideas where to look next?
[15:58] <ne2k> Vanfanel: well, not the version number, just the name
[15:58] <jibreel> jhutchins: ah i see, so there is no way around this ?
[15:59] <ne2k> Vanfanel: in this case, sudo apt-get install libgbm-dev
[15:59] <jibreel> jhattara: well this is kind of stupid
[15:59] <ActionParsnip> tomc603: what is the output of:  cat /etc/issue
[16:00] <ne2k> Vanfanel: as far as I know, apt will automatically pick the one with the highest version number. I might be wrong about this -- perhaps someone else can chime in. If you want to deliberately install an old version, then you will need to get into hackery
[16:00] <Rory> Not too much hackery, you can do it with synaptic
[16:00] <tomc603> ActionParsnip, I'm using 13.10
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> tomc603: then it isnt supported here
[16:00] <ActionParsnip> tomc603: your support is in #ubuntu+1
[16:00] <tomc603> But I do not believe this is an issue related to 13.10, which is why I ask here
[16:00] <Rory> tomc603: Does the issue occur in 13.04?
[16:01] <ActionParsnip> tomc603: it is still in 13.10 which isnt supported here til release day
[16:01] <Vanfanel> ne2k: how can I know wich exact one do I have installed then?
[16:01] <ne2k> Vanfanel: dpkg -l |grep libgbm-dev
[16:02] <tomc603> This is clearly an issue that impacts more than one version, as the number of un-answered questions on http://askubuntu.com/search?q=indicator-messages indicate
[16:02] <ActionParsnip> tomc603: its not supported here til release day. You are using Ubuntu 12.10 and 12.10 is not supported here until October
[16:03] <ne2k> someone's in a time warp
[16:03] <Rory> 13.10*
[16:04] <ne2k> if I install 12.04.3 server from CD, I get a 3.8 kernel. if I install it from netboot, I get a 3.2 kernel. any ideas why? is this normal? is there any point in upgrading, and if so, how does one do it?
[16:04] <ikonia_> ne2k: net boot ?
[16:04] <ikonia_> ne2k: netboot to what ? what repo ? what media ?
[16:05] <ne2k> ikonia_: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/precise/main/installer-amd64/current/images/netboot/
[16:05] <tomc603> ne2k, I believe the netboot image hasn't been updated with the backported kernels, etc.
[16:05] <ikonia_> ne2k: what are you netbooting against though ?
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/linux-image-3.8.0-27-generic
[16:06] <ActionParsnip> weird
[16:06] <ikonia_> ne2k: and the short answer is the available updates will be offered to you in the package manager,
[16:06] <g0d> is Ubuntu 13.04 just as customizable as Arch?
[16:06] <ne2k> ikonia_: what do you mean? I downloaded netboot.tar.gz from that directory, unzip it into a tftp server and boot it with PXE
[16:06] <eden_> ctrl +a does not work in ubuntu 12.04 64 bit,it does not mark the text and it goes the cursor to the beginning of it.
[16:07] <ne2k> eden_: that's what Ctrl-A is supposed to do on Linux
[16:07] <tomc603> ne2k, Once the OS is installed, do a "dist-upgrade" and you will get the back-ported packages
[16:07] <Psil0Cybin> Hey guys
[16:07] <tomc603> Including the new kernel
[16:08] <Psil0Cybin> im trying to encrypt my home directory after already installing linux
[16:08] <Psil0Cybin> how can i go about doing this a fast quick way? perhaps
[16:08] <Psil0Cybin> im trying
[16:08] <eden_> ne2k, no i am sure that i could mark all the text with ctrl+a
[16:08] <Psil0Cybin> sudo /usr/bin/ecryptfs-migrate-home -u psil0cybin
[16:08] <Psil0Cybin> but it keeps saying permission denied
[16:09] <eden_> ne2k, i am also using debian and ctrl+a marks all the text
[16:09] <ne2k> tomc603: it doesn't. I did sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade; and it says 0 packages to upgrade
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> Psil0Cybin: is that your user which you are logged in as now?
[16:09] <Psil0Cybin> yes is that the problem
[16:09] <Psil0Cybin> i need to enable my root account and do it as root?
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> Psil0Cybin: sounds likely
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> Psil0Cybin: no
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> Psil0Cybin: reboot and hold SHIFT at boot
[16:09] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> sparty: boot to root recovery mode and do it there
[16:09] <Psil0Cybin> writting this down :)
[16:09] <ActionParsnip> Psil0Cybin: ^
[16:10] <geneller2> thank you all, it seems like it's working now, I mean at least I can log in now and I'm running the unity --reset command to get it back finally, thank you so much :D
[16:10] <Psil0Cybin> so i just hold shift, and login as my username that i want to encrypt then
[16:10] <Psil0Cybin> run command?
[16:10] <prosys> Hello, how can I start an interactive shell script (using stdin) before starting X? Something like, during the boot process, pause the boot process to run the script (and receive user input) and then resume the boot process...
[16:10] <ActionParsnip> sparty: ahhh ah you the crazy guy with the YouTbe channel. Cup of Linux?
[16:10] <Rory> Psil0Cybin: One of the options will be "drop to a root shell prompt"
[16:10] <Psil0Cybin> okay perfect :0
[16:10] <scavmartin> OK I have an issue with ubuntu and using rpmbuild (yes I know rpm on ubuntu) and it does not like the "noarch" architecture and I get "error: No compatible architectures found for build". Does anyone know how to force the build or get ubuntu's rpmbuild to recognize the no arch architecture so the package can build?
[16:10] <reisio> prosys: what for
[16:11] <Jose3> hi, I'm new here, but I was told this is where I could find help for Ubuntu?
[16:11] <reisio> Jose3: I believe you
[16:11] <Rory> scavmartin: Can you put the full command you run, and any and all output, on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[16:11] <Psil0Cybin> Rory or ActionParsnip once I encrypt my home directory, what is the best way to double check that it is encrypted (pop in a livecd and try to access my drive)?
[16:12] <scavmartin> I use a spec file. root@utl-tca09:/usr/local/TeamCity/rpm/SPECS# rpmbuild -ba silvercore_bizinfo.spec
[16:12] <scavmartin> error: No compatible architectures found for build
[16:12] <Rory> Psil0Cybin: Pretend you are an adversary and attempt to access your data
[16:12] <Psil0Cybin> Thanks guys
[16:12] <Psil0Cybin> im going to do this now.
[16:12] <scavmartin> no need for paste bin as it was only two lines :)
[16:13] <Jose3> So, I'm trying to run a command but its not working. It'll tell me "permission denied" and when I try to sudo it, it ells me "command not found"
[16:13] <eden_> Where i can ask information about websites?
[16:13] <Rory> scavmartin: try using the --target=noarch argument to rpmbuild
[16:13] <scavmartin> Jose3: please run "which COMMAND" and "sudo which COMMAND" and provide output
[16:13] <Rory> What do you mean eden_ ? Do you have an Ubuntu support question? If so just ask it :)
[16:13] <Jose3> alright
[16:13] <prosys> reisio: i need to ask the user for some info before starting lightdm and some software that needs that info to work
[16:14] <eden_> Rory, i want to download a website page exactly as it is
[16:14] <Jose3> scavmartin: In both cases I received no output
[16:14] <scavmartin> Jose3: what is the command, and it works without sudo?
[16:15] <Rory> eden_: try "wget -p -k http://example.com"
[16:15] <scavmartin> Jose3: What is the exact error you get when you run it without sudo and you get permission denied?
[16:15] <Jose3> the command is the binary for a program I downloaded (used to tag texts for their synctactic values)
[16:16] <Jose3> I cannot get it to work with or without sudo
[16:16] <Rory> Jose3: you need to use ./commandname not just commandname
[16:16] <Rory> !path | Jose3 or add it to your path
[16:16] <eden_> @Rory tried
[16:16] <Jose3> I have tried./
[16:16] <prosys> i tryed to use an upstart job, but i cant get stdin with it
[16:16] <prosys> *tried
[16:16] <Rory> eden_: Did it work?
[16:16] <scavmartin> Jose3: sudo chmod a+x COMMAND, then sudo ./COMMAND does that work?
[16:16] <eden_> @Rory no
[16:17] <Rory> !details | eden_
[16:17] <Jose3> When I try to run the command:
[16:17] <Jose3> bash: ./tree-tagger: Permission denied
[16:17] <Rory> Jose3: What is the output of "file tree-tagger"
[16:17] <Rory> Jose3: And what is the output of "uname -p"
[16:17] <jundoe> !seen laptop
[16:18] <eden_> @Rory i don't get the desired structure as i view it when i am browsing
[16:18] <Jose3> scavmartin: no, it did not work
[16:18] <KI7MT> eden_, you may want to add a few things to the wget command:  --recursive  --no-clobber  --page-requisites  --html-extension  --convert-links --no-parent   etc etc
[16:18] <jundoe> !help
[16:18] <Rory> eden_: Oh, that will only download one page. You might find what you need here http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/downloading-entire-web-site-wget
[16:18] <Jose3> rory: output of "file tree-tagger"
[16:18] <Jose3> tree-tagger: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), statically linked, for GNU/Linux 2.6.16, BuildID[sha1]=0x9a86b278e4e1ed9778da1cc0ee48c025d11d0e89, stripped
[16:19] <Rory> Jose3: and "uname -p" ?
[16:19] <Jose3> rory: "uname -p"
[16:19] <Jose3> x86_64
[16:19] <Rory> Jose3: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs
[16:19] <scavmartin> Jose3: what rory said :)
[16:19] <Rory> "ELF 32-bit LSB executable" "x86_64" there's your problem right there
[16:19] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys so i restarted the comptuer and held shift, buti t gave me 4 options Start ubuntu normally, in safe mode, memory test and some other option then press c for console so i pressed c but its the grub console
[16:20] <Psil0Cybin> so how do i go about restarting it to get into root terminal
[16:20] <Jose3> Ok, downloading right now
[16:20] <avnish> hello guys
[16:20] <Rory> Psil0Cybin: You want Recovery Mode, that will likely be the second option
[16:20] <Jose3> I'll let you guys know in a sec
[16:20] <Psil0Cybin> oh its recovery mode
[16:20] <Jose3> Thanks for the help
[16:20] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[16:20] <Psil0Cybin> thats it? or something else after that
[16:20] <Rory> Psil0Cybin: Once you're in recovery mode you get a menu. One of the options will be similar to "drop to a root shell prompt"
[16:20] <scavmartin> Rory: thanks the target=noarch switch provided http://paste.ubuntu.com/6128917/ which means noarch does exist, correct? Which then my spec file setup is bad (something I do not control).
[16:20] <avnish>  iwant to learn basic of python
[16:20] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[16:20] <Psil0Cybin> perfect
[16:20] <Psil0Cybin> ty
[16:21] <Rory> avnish: join #python this is the Ubuntu support channel
[16:22] <Jose3> rory & scavmartin: I have downloaded everything and I am still getting the same issues "Permission denied" and "command not found" (no sudo, sudo respectively)
[16:23] <prosys> how do i run an interactive bash script during boot process, pausing/resuming the boot process?
[16:23] <scavmartin> Jose3: ls COMMAND
[16:23] <Rory> Jose3: You did "sudo apt-get install ia32-libs" ?
[16:23] <scavmartin> Jose3: I mean "ls -lah COMMAND"
[16:23] <Rory> I have to leave for home now, but this is a simple issue and you're in capable hands
[16:24] <Jose3> rory: yes
[16:24] <Jose3> rory: thanks
[16:24] <avnish> is there any room for hackers
[16:24] <KI7MT> prosys, put a hook script in with update-rc.d and / or upstart service job
[16:25] <Jose3> scavmartin:
[16:25] <Jose3> -rw------- 1 jose jose 861K May  7 11:09 ./tree-tagger
[16:25] <scavmartin> Jose3: You never ran "chmod a+x COMMAND" like I said earlier, try that
[16:25] <scavmartin> Jose3: may need to to sudo the chmod
[16:25] <Psil0Cybin> Rory: it says mktemp failed to create file via template /home/psil0cybin.XXXXXX : Read Only File System
[16:25] <Psil0Cybin> does that mean it is already encrypted?
[16:26] <prosys> KI7MT: please explain
[16:26] <KI7MT> prosys, More Info:  http://upstart.ubuntu.com/cookbook/  .. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpstartHowto
[16:26] <drfaustus> What is it now with me And is it as I have become?
[16:26] <drfaustus> Is there no state free from the boundary lines
[16:26] <Jose3> scavmartin:
[16:26] <Jose3>  jose@jose-Desktop:/media/Files/Taming_the_WWW/TreeTagger/Linux/bin$ sudo chmod a+x ./tree-tagger
[16:26] <Jose3> jose@jose-Desktop:/media/Files/Taming_the_WWW/TreeTagger/Linux/bin$ ls -lah ./tree-tagger
[16:26] <Jose3> -rw------- 1 jose jose 861K May  7 11:09 ./tree-tagger
[16:26] <FloodBot1> Jose3: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:26] <bazhang> !ot | drfaustus
[16:26] <prosys> KI7MT: oh, i've tried upstart, but i cant get stdin
[16:26] <avnish> is there any room for hackers
[16:26] <Psil0Cybin> lol
[16:27] <OerHeks> avnish, no.
[16:27] <Psil0Cybin> what kind of "hackers"
[16:27] <Psil0Cybin> ?
[16:27] <scavmartin> Jose3: "sudo chmod a+x tree-tagger" + "ls -lah tree-tagger"
[16:27] <avnish> ethical hacker
[16:27] <Psil0Cybin> look for a pentesting channel.
[16:27] <KI7MT> prosys, that a script issue then, it needs to be written so as to provide an interactive action
[16:27] <Psil0Cybin> maybe there is a #backtrack support channel somewhere.
[16:27] <Psil0Cybin> but i doubt it it would be flooded with kids trying to learn how to use aircrack ;)
[16:28] <NastyNaz> im looking for a folder with 'euphoria' somewhere in the name. how do i search for it from the terminal?
[16:28] <Jose3> still getting the same output
[16:28] <avnish> how can i learn basic of hacking
[16:28] <Psil0Cybin> Im trying to encrypt my home directory, I restarted in recovery went to drop a rootshell and i get this message
[16:28] <Psil0Cybin> /home/psil0cybin.XXXXXX : Read Only File System
[16:28] <Psil0Cybin> what do i do?
[16:28] <DopeSmoke> how would i download files from ubuntu on my local network to a windows machine on the same network
[16:28] <OerHeks> avnish, stop asking, wrong room
[16:29] <Jose3> avnish: try "smash the stack"
[16:29] <avnish> is there any room pls tell me
[16:29] <scavmartin> Jose3: and the chmod does not error? If so it is defining basic reason as it is not adding the executable bit.
[16:29] <Psil0Cybin> avnish: you wont get anywhere, by keeping on asking.
[16:29] <Jose3> scavmartin: it is not giving me any error
[16:29] <KI7MT> prosys, for example: [ exec 3<&0 \ read -u 3 -p "Choose Something : " input exec 3<&- ]
[16:29] <Psil0Cybin> avnish: google is your friend.
[16:30] <avnish> is there any sight from which i can read basic
[16:30] <scavmartin> is "/media" another filesystem? "df -h" will tell me also
[16:30] <Psil0Cybin> anyone know how to encrypt a file system with ecryptfs-migrate-home
[16:30] <Psil0Cybin> ?
[16:30] <prosys> KI7MT: thank you, i'm going to try that
[16:30] <mojtaba> Hi, Do you know how can I backup my windows system via network with my ubuntu system? :)
[16:30] <scavmartin> Jose3: is "/media" another filesystem? "df -h" will tell me also
[16:30] <jhutchins> avnish: Start with http://freenode.org, where you can learn more about irc.
[16:30] <mojtaba> I want to make a backup server.
[16:30] <Psil0Cybin> avnish: start with backtrack - learn to hack wifis first.
[16:30] <Psil0Cybin> go from there.
[16:30] <Jose3> h.o, putting output in a pastebin
[16:31] <Psil0Cybin> spready your wings young grass hopper.
[16:31] <toxboi> Psil0Cybin: Why are you rebooting in recovery mode?
[16:31] <Psil0Cybin> trying to recover the home directory i use.
[16:31] <Psil0Cybin> i mean
[16:31] <jhutchins> avnish: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/sag/
[16:31] <Psil0Cybin> encrypt*
[16:31] <Psil0Cybin> using sudo ecryptfs-migrate-home -u psil0cybin
[16:31] <Jose3> scavmartin: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6128954/
[16:31] <Psil0Cybin> but i cant do that because its the user account i use.
[16:31] <Psil0Cybin> so it says i must be root
[16:32] <Psil0Cybin> but when i enter it as root i get
[16:32] <Psil0Cybin> /home/psil0cybin.XXXXXX : Read Only File System
[16:32] <igor2> hi there
[16:32] <mojtaba> Hi, Do you know how can I backup my windows system via network with my ubuntu system? I want to make a backup server.
[16:32] <scavmartin> yes it is "/dev/sdb1       932G  182G  750G  20% /media/Files"; run "cat /etc/mtab |grep sdb1"
[16:32] <KI7MT> prosys, Don't use that example exactly, that is a simple example of a readline.\
[16:32] <igor2> i've a problem with my displaysettings
[16:32] <DopeSmoke> how would i download files from ubuntu on my local network to a windows machine on the same network
[16:33] <KI7MT> What you need is:
[16:33] <Jose3> scavmartin: /dev/sdb1 /media/Files fuseblk rw,nosuid,nodev,allow_other,default_permissions,blksize=4096 0 0
[16:33] <KI7MT> !abs |prosys
[16:33] <toxboi> Psil0Cybin: Logout your account, switch to console (Ctrl + Alt + F1), login as any sudo user, type in sudo -i to get root and run that command.
[16:33] <scavmartin> Psil0Cybin: mount -o remount,rw /
[16:33] <prosys> KI7MT: thank you
[16:34] <Psil0Cybin> thank you toxboi will try it now
[16:34] <igor2> who could help me with a problem concerning display?
[16:34] <mathsz> hi everyone
[16:34] <Jose3> hi
[16:34] <M4he> Hi, I set up an openbox standalone session on 13.04 with SLiM as dm. However, networkmanager and dropbox are still autostarting. Are there any other startup scripts that are automatically executed besides .xinitrc and openbox' autostart file?
[16:34] <scavmartin> Jose3: that is a NTFS formatted drive "/media/Files"; move\copy the directory and binary you want off of it, run the chmod command once on the unix FS and you should be all set
[16:35] <mathsz> I'm in trouble :( need some help
[16:35] <Psil0Cybin> what kind of help mathsz
[16:35] <eden_> Rory, still no luck this is how i am getting the website
[16:35] <eden_> Rory, http://imageupload.co.uk/files/6nozlwmidj506ogce69w.png
[16:36] <mathsz> psly0Cybin, tried renaming a user with usermod, logged as root
[16:36] <scavmartin> eden_: rory left "man wget"
[16:36] <mathsz> lost all files
[16:36] <mojtaba> Hi, Do you know how can I backup my windows system via network with my ubuntu system? I want to make a backup server. should I format the data hard drive NTFS? If so, will I need to defragment it later?
[16:36] <eden_> scavmartin, yes this is what i am using
[16:36] <eden_> scavmartin, i want to download a web page exactly as it looks
[16:37] <DopeSmoke> how would i download files from ubuntu on my local network to a windows machine on the same network
[16:37] <scavmartin> eden_: easiest way as I do not know the switches besides reading the wget page would be in firefox or chrome and save and select entire website
[16:38] <KI7MT> mathsz, what do you mean by lost, delete or can't find them ?
[16:38] <eden_> scavmartin, no this doesn't work
[16:38] <toxboi> DopeSmoke: If you're running SSH on your Ubuntu box, simply use WinSCP on windows and transfer the files.
[16:39] <prosys> KI7MT: do i need to hide the splash screen (plymouth hide-splash)?
[16:39] <Psil0Cybin> toxboi: now i have even more problems it says i cannot proceed because stuff is mounted now that i logged out and clicked CTRL ALT F1
[16:39] <Psil0Cybin> i was unable to login as root i had to login as my psil0cybin account
[16:39] <Psil0Cybin> how can i login as root if my root account is disabled?
[16:39] <chaotic_good> what mnin gigs for os partition in ubuntu?
[16:39] <chaotic_good> 4g?
[16:39] <Psil0Cybin> i ran the sudo -i command
[16:40] <mathsz> KI7MT : i used the usrmod command on a user and lost files. In terminal, If I log as root, I see the folder there
[16:40] <KI7MT> prosys, yes
[16:40] <Jose3> scavmartin: I have moved it to a different drive but chmod is still not changing it. Let me try one more time on the linux partition I've got
[16:40] <KI7MT> mathsz, what usermod command did you run
[16:41] <Psil0Cybin> scavmartin: what did you mean by mount..i tried what toxboi said but it also did not work
[16:41] <toxboi> Psil0Cybin: can you paste that (please use pastebin)
[16:41] <Psil0Cybin> i cannot because its on another computer
[16:41] <Psil0Cybin> im using two laptops im in the CTRL+ALT+F1 console
[16:41] <mathsz> KI7MT usermod -l oldname newname, then, usermod -md oldname newname, this is where I screwed up
[16:41] <scavmartin> Psil0Cybin: that command I gave you will remount a read-only partition as read-write
[16:41] <Psil0Cybin> so what is the command
[16:41] <Psil0Cybin> and what is the command to turn it back to read-only how it was
[16:41] <toxboi> Psil0Cybin: ofcourse, what exactly does it say is mounted?
[16:42] <scavmartin> Psil0Cybin: "mount -o remount,rw PARTITION" where partition is "/" or "/home" or the like to revert change rw to ro
[16:42] <Psil0Cybin> so can i find out the partition using fdisk
[16:42] <Psil0Cybin> ?
[16:43] <Psil0Cybin> i have three /dev/sda1 * (Linux) /dev/sda2 (Extended) /dev/sda5 (swap)
[16:43] <KI7MT> mathsz, if the structre is still there, as well as the files, make a new user, cp the old to new, then chown -R new-user:newuser
[16:43] <scavmartin> Psil0Cybin: "df -h" will show you all partitions and mount points, u want the mount point for the command above
[16:43] <Psil0Cybin> or do i do
[16:43] <Psil0Cybin> mount -o remount,rw /home
[16:43] <Psil0Cybin> ?
[16:44] <Psil0Cybin> or is it
[16:44] <Jose3> scavmartin: Thank you, the program is now running! Can I copy everything back to its original spot or would that interfere with its execution?
[16:44] <Psil0Cybin> mount -o rremount,rw sda1
[16:44] <mathsz> KI7MT: how do I copy the folder? I only see it if logged as root, and when logged as root, it's the only thing I see with the ls command
[16:44] <scavmartin> Psil0Cybin: yes if "/home" is it's mount
[16:44] <mathsz> KI7MT:already have another user created
[16:45] <scavmartin> Jose3: I would not expect your app to run on a NTFS drive, so no you cannot copy back, you could try and get lucky though
[16:45] <scavmartin> Psil0Cybin: yes was to "mount -o remount,rw /home"
[16:45] <Jose3> alright, I'll give it a quick go
[16:45] <KI7MT> mathsz, sudo cp /home/deleted-user /home/new-user && chown -R /home/new-user
[16:46] <Azoff> hello
[16:46] <daftykins> hi
[16:47] <Freeaqingme> Hi folks. I just had a full hdd, because some app created a 50Gib file. I deleted that file, but still df reports no space left on the device. Find does not find any files bigger than 50M, except for /proc/kcore (supposedly 128T)
[16:47] <mathsz> KI7MT, the home/deleted user does not exist anymore
[16:47] <Jose3> scavmartin: you're right, it does not work. Thank you again for all the help, guess I'll just have to run it from its new home!
[16:48] <scavmartin> Jose3: In general NTFS and linux\unix is not a good mix, I would recommend formatting your drive with ext4
[16:48] <mathsz> KI7MT, I only see it when logged as "root" and do the ls command
[16:48] <Azoff> I've got an old ASrock ION330HT running as a HTPC. Recently, I've started geting kernel panics when booting Ubuntu 12.04 when the power has been cut to it, for example when the powerplug has been removed from the wall-socket. When booting it when the power has been connected all the time since the last boot, it works as expected.
[16:48] <daftykins> Freeaqingme: what does the output of "df -h" show? any full partitions?
[16:48] <Jose3> scavmartin: will that still give me compatibility with windows? (I dual-boot)
[16:48] <scavmartin> Jose3: Unfortunately no :(
[16:48] <Jose3> =(
[16:49] <Azoff> I've digged a bit about the problem and have found that it's probably related to this upstream fix 9ef449c6b31bb6a8e6dedc24de475a3b8c79be20, but is there any kernel for 12.04 that got this changeset included?
[16:49] <Freeaqingme> daftykins, the relevant line is: /dev/mapper/nl2-root   49G   49G     0 100% /
[16:49] <Jose3> alright, well, thank you for all your help anyways
[16:49] <KI7MT> mathsz, ok, do it as root then, root cp .. .. .. ..
[16:49] <Freeaqingme> and a few seconds ago I had a file that was 47Gib in size, but htat has been deleted daftykins
[16:49] <daftykins> Azoff: i have that exact system. (bluray drive model) running xbmcbuntu. not seen that before, are you fully updated?
[16:50] <Psil0Cybin> thank you scavmartin its doing it now
[16:50] <daftykins> Freeaqingme: odd! i'm not familiar with disk setups that come up as /dev/mapper i'm afraid
[16:50] <Psil0Cybin> so once its done im going to mount it back as ro
[16:50] <Azoff> daftykins: yes I am, got a BT version too at home.
[16:50] <scavmartin> Psil0Cybin: your welcome :)
[16:50] <Freeaqingme> daftykins, hmz, it's just a regular ubuntu install I guess
[16:50] <Psil0Cybin> it still is the same command right
[16:50] <Psil0Cybin> i mount it again even tho its mounted?
[16:50] <scavmartin> Psil0Cybin: well /home should never be mounted as ro
[16:50] <Psil0Cybin> to make it ro
[16:50] <Psil0Cybin> scavmartin: but it said it was readonly before?
[16:51] <Azoff> daftykins: from what I can tell, it only happens when the power has been remove completly to the box, probably ending up with garbage in the HW-buffer
[16:51] <scavmartin> Psil0Cybin: are you in a recovery shell or mode? yes the same command with ro will work
[16:51] <Psil0Cybin> i am in recovery shell
[16:51] <Psil0Cybin> yes
[16:51] <toxboi> Psil0Cybin: What runlevel are you in? Type runlevel
[16:51] <Psil0Cybin> toxboi: its already doing the ecryptfs
[16:51] <toxboi> Psil0Cybin: AH
[16:51] <Psil0Cybin> migrate home atm
[16:51] <toxboi> ok
[16:51] <daftykins> Azoff: are you running the latest BIOS?
[16:51] <scavmartin> Psil0Cybin: That is why, no need to remount as ro, I assume you are doing a disk check? Once done just exit recovery shell and you will be all set
[16:51] <mathsz> KI7MT, doesn't work. says : omittin directory
[16:51] <loa> Hello i am trying to make .desktop file with Icon absolute path, it is ok when it on desktop but when i move it to unity bar icon dissapears and i see standart icon for that application? What is wrong?
[16:51] <Psil0Cybin> doing a disk check?
[16:51] <Azoff> daftykins: I've been able to reproduce the issue about 10 times now by just removing the powerplug and wait for like 10 min.
[16:51] <Azoff> daftykins: let me check.
[16:52] <Freeaqingme> daftykins, a reboot it is then
[16:52] <Psil0Cybin> all i did so far was mount and run the ecryptfs-migrate-home command
[16:52] <Psil0Cybin> on my user
[16:52] <scavmartin> Psil0Cybin: Ok why are you in a recovery shell and working with your /home?
[16:52] <Psil0Cybin> am i good so far?
[16:52] <Psil0Cybin> because when i did CTRL+ALT+F1, it would only let me login as my user account
[16:52] <Azoff> daftykins: looking at the code, I'm possitive that the code is faulty however..
[16:52] <Susning> Hi! Is there any way to disable the option to unmount a device from the user interface? I have 3 disks that I really don't want to be able to unmount by clicking the "unmount/eject-button".. Any ideas?
[16:52] <scavmartin> Psil0Cybin: ahh you are encrypting the dir
[16:52] <Psil0Cybin> why did i do something wrong by being in recovery shell
[16:53] <Psil0Cybin> your scaring me
[16:53] <Psil0Cybin> aha
[16:53] <Freeaqingme> daftykins, a reboot apparently  cleared 45 Gib. tnx ;)
[16:53] <Psil0Cybin> so wait scavmartin after im done encrypting
[16:53] <Psil0Cybin> do i mount as ro
[16:53] <Psil0Cybin> or just restart
[16:53] <KI7MT> mathsz, need the /* on the end /home/user/*
[16:53] <Psil0Cybin> im a bit confused
[16:53] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:54] <llutz> mathsz: use "cp -a ...."
[16:54] <scavmartin> Psil0Cybin: I actually have never done the encryption of home myself looking at it now - http://www.howtogeek.com/116032/how-to-encrypt-your-home-folder-after-installing-ubuntu/
[16:54] <toxboi> Psil0Cybin: Don't use short sentences. You'll piss off FloodBot1 :)
[16:54] <Azoff> daftykins: I'm one bios version behind (got 1.10), don't think an update would help, but I'll give it a try
[16:55] <gerlos> Susning: you could add your devices in /etc/fstab, whitout the option "user", so system will mount them on boot, and users won't be able to umount them. There's a lot of docs about /etc/fstab on the Net
[16:55] <Susning> gerlos, that was my thought as well, doing something like that.
[16:55] <Susning> gerlos, they are already all in fstab so that would only be adding/changing some options, right?
[16:56] <scavmartin> Psil0Cybin: from what I read you do not need to be in recovery mode. I believe you should have just booted normally ran that command (it would have worked as /home would be rw on a normal boot) and proceed from there. IE booting into a recovery shell seems to have been your initial mistake but from what I read you should be all set.
[16:56] <mathsz> KI7MT: so, sudo cp -a aosp1 /home/newuser* && chown -R /home/newuser seems to be working
[16:56] <gerlos> Susning: right. Fundamentally, you need to remove the option that let normal users mount/umount the device.
[16:57] <Susning> gerlos the only option now is "defaults"
[16:57] <KI7MT> mathsz, ok do this for me: sudo apt-get install pastebinit %% ls -al /home | pastebinit  then post that link
[16:57] <Susning> does that mean i need to add each option one and one, since i'm not going to have it on defaults any more?
[16:57] <gerlos> Susning: good. It should do "the right thing" ;-)
[16:57] <Susning> gerlos - but it was already defaults. and i was able to unmount it as user.
[16:57] <Psil0Cybin> okay so just to double check oneeee last time because im super cautious :-) I Do not run any commands after the encryption process is complete, I just restart? Or is the mount command to turn the system back to RO, Still Necessary to ensure i do not cause problems later? Sorry I know im going around with circles just want to be double sure, so i can dust my hands off in relaxation.
[16:57] <KI7MT> mathsz,  sudo apt-get install pastebinit && ls -al /home | pastebinit
[16:58] <Psil0Cybin> scavmartin:
[16:58] <gerlos> Susning: can I see you /etc/fstab?
[16:58] <Susning> gerlos - of course. wait
[16:58] <scavmartin> Psil0Cybin: I would run the test commands in the articly I provided once done, and then yes you can reboot and no need to switch back to ro
[16:59] <Psil0Cybin> okay im going to read the article now
[16:59] <mathsz> KI7MT: can't for now, it's "busy"
[16:59] <Susning> gerlos, http://pastebin.com/M2JfzVDq sorry for the high amount of tabs. it's for me being able to see them all aligned in even rows
[17:00] <Susning> gerlos, actually i don't want any of those to be unmountable for user.
[17:00] <loa> Hello i am trying to change icon of application on unity dock but it always showed as chrome icon here is screenshot http://s009.radikal.ru/i310/1309/5c/cb22e00cb2f0.png and code of application launcher http://pastebin.com/eGUreUP1
[17:00] <loa> what i am doing wrong?
[17:00] <KI7MT> mathsz, cp -avr was probably better say to go, then chown -R /home/new-user .. but if your getting it done now, no need to pastebinit
[17:01] <Azoff> daftykins: flashed with the latest bios and awaiting the power to be completly off
[17:01] <mathsz> KI7MT excuse my noobiness, again. when it is done copying, the other user should have access to the files, right?
[17:01] <gerlos> Susning: sorry? I didn't understand your needs. I thought you wanted to make those mounts "permanent", so users can't umount them...
[17:01] <daftykins> Azoff: ok
[17:01] <Susning> yes, that is my needs gerlos
[17:02] <Susning> but now, my user CAN unmount them, from the user interface. that can cause major fuckups since i have symlinks and other stuff that gets messy if those disks get unmounted.
[17:02] <KI7MT> mathsz, you need to give ownership with chown -R, then the new-user should see them.
[17:03] <Susning> gerlos Mainly it is the Dropbox-disk that first of all holds my Dropbox-folder, but also is symlinked as my Documents folder etc.. So I really want to disable the possibility to unmount that particular drive. And if possible, Storage, 1080p and 720p as well.
[17:03] <Psil0Cybin> scavmartin: Thanks for the guide, I am going to run all those commands once it is done. What does it mean I must login immediately before the next reboot to complete the migration, if thats the case...and im in root shell, what would i do/
[17:03] <Psil0Cybin> ?
[17:04] <Psil0Cybin> lol encrypting 500gbs sure is taking a while.
[17:05] <gerlos> Susnig: "defaults" should be enough to avoid normal users to mount/umount a disk
[17:06] <wilee-nilee>  /ignore Psil0Cybin
[17:06] <gerlos> Susning: at least, it works this way on the ubuntu 13.4 in front of me right now
[17:06] <wilee-nilee> [10:06] (wilee-nilee)  /ignore Psil0Cybin
[17:06] <bunt> guys i tried to put a password on grub2 ... did grub-mkpasswd-pbkdf2... edited  /etc/grub.d/00_header pasted the result with cat << EOF, set superusers=user, password user ... etc update-grub
[17:07] <bunt> now i cannot not only edit grub entriees
[17:07] <ppppo> ciao
[17:07] <ppppo> !list
[17:07] <bunt> but it asks for password just to boot the system
[17:07] <bunt> am i screwed?
[17:07] <bunt> the password i set up does not work
[17:07] <Psil0Cybin> toxboi: sorry question if im in recovery shell and i need to login before restart
[17:07] <Psil0Cybin> what would i do? in order to loginto my user account?
[17:08] <gerlos> Susning: try to add "nouser" option, replacing "defaults" with "defaults,nouser"
[17:08] <Susning> gerlos - maybe my problem is that the system ALSO mounts the same folder to /media/Dropbox - which i actually don't want.
[17:08] <Susning> It is if I unmount /media/Dropbox the mount to /home/marcus/Dropbox falls as well
[17:09] <gerlos> Susning: maybe. Put those permanent mount points under the standard path: /mnt/
[17:09] <Susning> gerlos so i suppose the disk is automounted, even when i already have mounted it.
[17:09] <KI7MT> bunt, no, your not, dont panic, you can use resume to reset root PW
[17:09] <KI7MT> if needed
[17:09] <Psil0Cybin> toxboi: like it says i must login immediately before the next reboot, but im in the recovery shell, so how am I able to do that
[17:09] <Psil0Cybin> did i already mess up?
[17:09] <Susning> gerlos - thanks, i will do that and see if that helps. otherwise add nouser.
[17:10] <Psil0Cybin> anyone familiour with the ecryptfs-migrate-home process?
[17:10] <gerlos> Susning: /media/ shouldn't be used for permanent mount points
[17:10] <gerlos> leave it for the system
[17:10] <bountyhunter> hello guys : Can pendrive linux software be used to create external hard drives bootable too? or is it just for pendrives
[17:11] <Psil0Cybin> depends on if the device is supported
[17:11] <gerlos> bountyhunter: there shouldn't be any difference... I think that it will work the same
[17:11] <bunt> KI7MT: what do you mean by using resume?
[17:11] <Psil0Cybin> scavmartin:
[17:12] <KI7MT> bunt, recovery mode from the boot menu
[17:12] <loa> Hello, i am trying change icon of application launcher in unity dock, application launcher now have such code http://pastebin.com/GHuyALK2 but i again recieve default chrome application icon http://s009.radikal.ru/i310/1309/5c/cb22e00cb2f0.png
[17:12] <GarrettKajmowicz> Greetings! How can I go about resuming the boot process in 12.04 after I've been dumped to the Busybox shell and manually mounted the root filesystem?
[17:12] <loa> i found that there was bug using absolute path but looks like it was fixed
[17:13] <loa> here is link https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/bamf/+bug/1201408
[17:13] <bunt> KI7MT: my password locks GRUB2 entries. i cannot enter anything, including windows - asks me for password
[17:13] <KI7MT> bunt, boot machine, hold shift, select recovery mode, select root, mount -rw -o remount / , passwd <your-sudo-account> and reset PW
[17:13] <bunt> KI7MT: its a grub2 password
[17:14] <Psil0Cybin> anyone familiour with the ecryptfs-migrate-home process? i need some help for after im done encrypting my home directory.
[17:14] <KI7MT> bunt, Ohh... my bad sri .. your Grub PW is busted?
[17:15] <bunt> KI7MT: not sure what happened....  i just set it up following this -> http://crunchbang.org/forums/viewtopic.php?id=13076 --- i thought it would only lock grub2 entries against editing but it doesnt boot the system at all
[17:15] <Susning> gerlos - thanks, this already looks much cleaner.
[17:16] <Susning> gerlos - after adding them to /mnt/ instead they all disapeared from "Devices" in the user interface which was even better then i expected. Since I have symlincs for them all on other places it was just messy having them there. I would be happy if i just got rid of the "unmount button", this is even better :D
[17:16] <bunt> KI7MT: any ideas?....
[17:18] <gerlos> Susning: did you try to logout and login again in the system, to see if those "unmount buttons" are still there?
[17:18] <KI7MT> bunt, reinstall grub2 from LiveCD, and dont PW protest grub :-) .. : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Installing
[17:18] <KI7MT> .. dont PW protect grub2 .. ..
[17:19] <KI7MT> Unless your seriously worried abotu security, then there's better ways to do that, like PW the BIOS
[17:19] <bunt> KI7MT: im afraid i encrypted entire partition... damn im stupid ...
[17:19] <bunt> :/
[17:20] <Psil0Cybin> bunt im encrypting my home directory now
[17:20] <KI7MT> encryption is a different kettle of fish, if you encrypted the partition, and dont have the PW< then that could be an issue.
[17:20] <Psil0Cybin> but i may have made a vital mistake.
[17:20] <Psil0Cybin> waiting for someone to help me and let me know :(
[17:20] <Psil0Cybin> while its still encrypting.
[17:22] <toxboi> Psil0Cybin:  Press Ctrl + Alt + F7 and login
[17:23] <loa> hello, how i can change icon of application launcher in uinty dock?
[17:24] <loa> i tried absolute path but looks like it is broken
[17:24] <mathsz> KI7MT , is says : missing operand after /home/newuser
[17:25] <Susning> gerlos - it's no longer a problem since those devices are no longer showing up as separate devices - just as I want it. So as said, even better then before.
[17:25] <Susning> I will reboot and see how it acts as soon as my Dropbox folder have synced...
[17:26] <gerlos> Susning: good
[17:26] <xteam> hi
[17:27] <Susning> gerlos it was kind of annoying before since i have like... 6 disks, which of 2 are partitions on them.. all where listed before this, which was really not needed since that's not how i browse them.
[17:27] <Susning> :)
[17:27] <gerlos> Susning: actually, you shouldn't need to reboot. Just logout and login again should be enough (and faster!)
[17:27] <Susning> gerlos, i've done "mount -a" and at least that looks good. no errors, and everything turns up as i want.
[17:28] <gerlos> Susning: same situation here. 3 disks, one for the system, one for data and one for backups. Put them in fstab with standard mount points, and forgot of them, since they just work ;-)
[17:29] <Susning> gerlos - by the way, should the windows system show up as two devices/disks?
[17:29] <Susning> gerlos - there is one called "Windows", and one called "System Reserved".
[17:30] <gerlos> Susning: sorry don't understand your question - maybe a screenshot may help
[17:31] <llutz> Susning: it's normal, ~100MB system-reserved/bootpartition + xxGB windows systempartition
[17:31] <Susning> gerlos http://imgur.com/9ZnRqxr
[17:31] <Susning> aah, thanks llutz.
[17:31] <Susning> the small one seems to be boot related
[17:32] <faugusztin> Susning: the small 100MB one is a recovery thingy
[17:32] <sandthd> can I install ubuntu to and boot from an usb3 hard drive?
[17:33] <Susning> faugusztin, maybe from when i repaired the boot-thingie after moving windows from one disk to another..
[17:33] <llutz> Susning: that 100MB bootpartition is created by windows at installation time if you don't install it into an already existing partition. it holds boot-stuff
[17:34] <llutz> Susning: its nothing wrong with it, just don't touch it :)
[17:34] <Susning> llutz, ok. so it shouldnt be touched then if i understand you correctly ;)
[17:35] <Susning> :)
[17:37] <Psil0Cybin> toxboi: can i do that if im in the recovery shell, i dont think so
[17:37] <Psil0Cybin> so i think i made a big big big mistake
[17:37] <Psil0Cybin> or will CTRL + ALT + F1 work for the recovery shell too
[17:37] <Psil0Cybin> i was thinking id have to type like logout
[17:38] <Psil0Cybin> then log back in and then try startxfce4? but i doubt that will work in recovery shell.
[17:41] <eer> Hi
[17:41] <K1rk_> Is it possible to use Zenity Progress --pulsate to wait on a Bash function?
[17:41] <eer> What command gives me the most information about the graphics carc?
[17:41] <K1rk_> I know how to use it to wait for a command, but when I type a bash function in there, it hangs.
[17:41] <eer> card
[17:41] <eer> lspci or is there a better one?
[17:42] <K1rk_> eer: lshw might give you a little more info
[17:44] <blotek_> hi
[17:46] <KI7MT> eer, also sudo dmidecode -q
[17:46] <eer> thx
[17:46] <KI7MT> use | less its allot of info
[17:46] <loa> what can be done if clock dissapears from icon bar?
[17:46] <K1rk_> loa: Re-add it.
[17:46] <K1rk_> loa: Right click the panel and do "add to panel"
[17:46] <loa> how?
[17:47] <loa> hm, right click don't work
[17:47] <loa> i checked this first
[17:48] <KI7MT> erry, for display specifically: sudo lshw -C display
[17:49] <GeekDude> I'm using Xming and PuTTy to use graphical programs, but the local windows are smaller compared to the windows running on the server (that I see in VNC). Side by side comparison: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2808065/Caps/Temp/19134917.png
[17:49] <erry> KI7MT, uh, thanks!
[17:49] <KI7MT> eer, was ment for you .. tab-complete got me :-)
[17:49] <erry> ;p
[17:50] <loa> K1rk_, this helps killall unity-panel-service
[17:50] <eer> Klrk_ thx
[17:51] <datatron2000> im on 13.04 and for some reason i cant mount mtp device
[17:51] <datatron2000> this just strted now
[17:51] <datatron2000> i have had no problem in the past
[17:52] <K1rk_> eer: no prob
[17:53] <rb-tnc>  Hello all, I am having a horrid issue and its driving me to the point of suicide, I have been trying to figure it out for weeks, every time i think i get it I'm wrong. Nautilus and Nemo prior to me removing it is constantly crashing. It happens when i go to execute commands like, right click, new, open, delete, ect. Here is the dmesg output: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6129246/  and here is the output from running 'gksudo nautilus'
[17:53] <rb-tnc> in terminal: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6129247/ any help WILL BE GREATLY APPRECIATED!
[17:54] <ax_ses> Does anyone here know how to extract OFDM symbols from a router. Or how to access the router's DSP?
[17:54] <moorvogi> @rb-tnc: i would help if i could m8. i'm still learnin things. dont want to stear you wrong.
[17:55] <Psil0Cybin> toxboi:
[17:55] <Psil0Cybin> i have a question are you still here
[17:55] <rb-tnc> yea
[17:55] <kenshiro> Hi, I read that Ubuntu 14.04 and future versions will be rolling releases (No more new releases each 6 months, instead the same release upgraded for a long time) . Is that right?
[17:56] <DJones> kenshiro: No its not, releases will continue every 6 months, LTS every 2 years and support for normal releases will only be for 9 months
[17:56] <k1l> rb-tnc: which ubuntu is that exactly? and why did you use/install nemo?
[17:57] <DJones> kenshiro: LTS will be supported for 5 years
[17:57] <kenshiro> DJones I understand, thank you :-)
[17:58] <rb-tnc> k1l: 3.6.3 because nemo has options nautilus dont, u cant access setting in nautilus when run as root and it has other options dont require installing addon packages
[17:58] <rb-tnc> k1l: I did like nautilus until the last update
[17:58] <k1l> rb-tnc: well, if you use 3rd party packages/programs please seek their support
[17:59] <quantumpants_> hi guys, I want to learn C++, can anybody advise me what app/programme i should use to write it.  I need a interpreter and a debugger. any idea's?
[17:59] <moorvogi> opinion time! I dont do alot on my ubuntu box, just farting around.. learning the system. do you think i need a dedicated swap drive? (16gig ram in box)
[17:59] <rb-tnc> k1l: ?
[17:59] <jpds_> quantumpants_: g++ and gdb.
[17:59] <rb-tnc> k1l: nautilus is not a 3rd party program
[17:59] <quantumpants_> thanks jpds
[17:59] <moorvogi> @quantumpants: me too. looking for an IDE based compiler
[18:00] <k1l> rb-tnc: so you removed nautilus and installed nemo?
[18:00] <rb-tnc> k1l: no
[18:00] <rb-tnc> k1l: nautilus is installed thats it
[18:00] <jpds_> moorvogi: What's wrong with g++ ?
[18:00] <KI7MT> quantumpants_, Info: http://gcc.gnu.org/
[18:01] <rb-tnc> k1l: i never removed it, i installed nemo to try and just avoid the issue but that also crashes under the same conditions
[18:01] <polter> moorvogi: I think most IDE's on Linux uses GCC/G++ but let's you specify another if needed
[18:01] <k1l> rb-tnc: which ubuntu is that exactly? what did you do /install/remove before that happened? what did cause that segfaults?
[18:01] <k1l> rb-tnc: so you installed nemo and since then nautilus crashes?
[18:01] <rb-tnc> k1l: 13.04 64bit
[18:01] <GarrettKajmowicz> How can I go about resuming the boot process in 12.04 after I've been dumped to the Busybox shell and manually mounted the root filesystem?
[18:02] <moorvogi> @polter hrm.. i'll have to go look again.
[18:02] <rb-tnc> k1l:  no nautilus was crashing prior, i installed nemo to just avoid the issue but that didnt work, I have been dealing with the issue for a while and trying to fix it with no luck
[18:03] <quantumpants_> thanks for your help guys
[18:03] <rb-tnc> k1l: if i knew what has been causing it I wouldnt be asking for help ;)
[18:03] <KI7MT> GarrettKajmowicz, you probably can't until you fix the reason you got dumped in the first place.
[18:04] <rb-tnc> k1l: I want to say the issue started after the distro upgrade 13.04.01 but I am not sure
[18:04] <GarrettKajmowicz> KI7MT: I don't know why it's dumping. If I boot my old kernel image, it boots up fine. If I boot the new kernel images, I get dumped to the busybox shell.
[18:05] <GarrettKajmowicz> KI7MT: Any suggestions on how to debug this?
[18:05] <quantumpants_> guys i cant download g++, im running 12.04.  any ideas on how i can get round it? or any other ideas?  "The following packages have unmet dependencies:  g++: Depends: cpp (>= 4:4.6.2-4ubuntu1) but 4:4.6.3-1ubuntu5 is to be installed      Depends: gcc (>= 4:4.6.2-4ubuntu1) but 4:4.6.3-1ubuntu5 is to be installed"
[18:05] <lix> rb-tnc: related to a 32bit vs. 64bit issue regarding libgobject-2.0.so? (a guess...)
[18:05] <k1l> rb-tnc: there is no 13.04.1      the .1 releases are only for LTS
[18:06] <KI7MT> GarrettKajmowicz, did you go an automated update to the new kernel  or a custom build? dmesg | less may shed some light on what's happening.
[18:06] <KI7MT> did you do an automated .. ..
[18:06] <bekks> quantumpants_: run sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade
[18:06] <rb-tnc> k1l: well whatever the last big upgrade was a few weeks ago when it updated it ran as distro upgrade rather than normal update, I dont know if that was just because the actual update sw was being updated or whatever
[18:06] <k1l> rb-tnc: i never heard of such an issue. best bet is to file a bug and report that to launchpad and see if the maintainers/developers have a clue
[18:07] <quantumpants_> thanks Be
[18:07] <GarrettKajmowicz> KI7MT: This happened when I updated to 12.04 from 10.04 LTS. I've not done any custom kernel building.
[18:07] <k1l> !bug | rb-tnc
[18:07] <quantumpants_> thanksbekks
[18:08] <rb-tnc> k1l: ok was hoping that wasnt the answer I was gonna get but thanks anyways
[18:08] <GarrettKajmowicz> KI7MT: I've done updates over and over. dmesg doesn't get me much. If you care to PM me an email address I can forward you photos of screen shots of what the scrollback buffer would show me of the dmsg output. I can't page everything because we don't have job control at this point.
[18:08] <KI7MT> GarrettKajmowicz, ahh .. ok, that could be all sorts of things then, but look through dmesg for kernel driver issues, modprobe issues things of that sort, it most likely (this is a guess) that a driver or module is causing you problems.
[18:09] <GeekDude> As per my previous statement, does anybody know if/how I can make Xming show a closer representation of the window? Right now, it shows a window with a smaller font, and some extra captions on the buttons
[18:09] <GeekDude> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/2808065/Caps/Temp/19134917.png
[18:09] <tomc603> Is there a more populated channel that is willing to give general help for a problem with "indicator-message" not working properly?
[18:09] <GarrettKajmowicz> KI7MT: The only thing I've noticed is that when I get dumped to Busybox the root filesystem isn't mounted. However, simply typing "mount /dev/md0 /root -o ro" works flawlessly.
[18:10] <lix> rb-tnc: related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1202315 ?
[18:10] <tomc603> Or a channel where someone might know how an app sends a notification to the indicator and how I might debug that interaction?
[18:10] <GarrettKajmowicz> KI7MT: How would I diagnose this?
[18:11] <rb-tnc> lix: it may be
[18:11] <bekks> GarrettKajmowicz: Unmount it, run fsck -f on the filesystem.
[18:11] <KI7MT> GarrettKajmowicz, one other thing you may try is to update grub2 also. boot the kernel that works, and do a grub update.
[18:11] <lix> rb-tnc: are you using this soure? ppa:gwendal-lebihan-dev/cinnamon-nightly
[18:11] <lix> rb-tnc: ... for nemo?
[18:12] <rb-tnc> lix: that bugs for 13.10, nemo is not installed
[18:12] <lix> rb-tnc: ah no, sorry. - you said 13.05
[18:12] <lix> s/13.05/13.04
[18:12] <GarrettKajmowicz> bekks: fsck passes. mdadm shows the filesystem as healthy. And I've done a grub update/re-install. Still no luck.
[18:12] <bekks> GarrettKajmowicz: You should investigate the status of the filesystem and not randomly install grub2.
[18:12] <lix> rb-tnc: k
[18:12] <bekks> GarrettKajmowicz: Did you run fsck, or fsck -f ?
[18:12] <rb-tnc> lix: I installed nemo to try and avoid the issue but that was also crashing so i removed it
[18:13] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys anyone know i changed /home to rw before running ecryptfs-migrate-home do i need to make my /home directory read only again?
[18:13] <lix> rb-tnc: oh, I understand
[18:13] <Psil0Cybin> or is it fine as rw.
[18:13] <rb-tnc> lix: I looked in launch pad and didnt see any bugs that are related to mine, now that just may be because I am not educated enough to realize it
[18:14] <GarrettKajmowicz> bekks: I'm pretty certain I did so with -f. It took a long time to run and went through ~5 phases. It didn't just say "filesystem marked clean".
[18:15] <KI7MT> GarrettKajmowicz, also check this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ltsp/+bug/951526
[18:15] <lix> rb-tnc: maybe this is related too: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1092046
[18:15] <lix> rb-tnc: as I saw you have Dropbox installed too...
[18:15] <rb-tnc> lix: i have the dmesg output and terminal outputs I dont know if you seen them when i posted before: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6129246/  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6129247/
[18:16] <lix> rb-tnc: trying to help but it seems to tough for me. - sorry
[18:16] <rb-tnc> lix: yea i tried uninstalling that because i read about that causing bugs still crashed
[18:16] <KI7MT> GarrettKajmowicz, also, which kernel version is failing?
[18:16] <lix> rb-tnc: mhmm...
[18:17] <rb-tnc> lix: i understand and i appreciate me trust me, I'm at a loss. I'm at the point where i just need to suck it up and do a clean install
[18:17] <GeekDude> AHA! I solved my issue. I just had to give xming the command line flag -dpi 96.
[18:17] <GarrettKajmowicz> KI7MT: I don't have LTSP installed, so I don't think that bug applies.
[18:18] <KI7MT> What do you have installed?
[18:18] <KI7MT> and the kernel version that's dropping to busybox?
[18:19] <lix> rb-tnc: looks like. but I prefer to find the bug before cleaning it by setting up a fresh system, as it might contribute to a fix
[18:19] <zykotick9> rb-tnc: if you decide to clean install, remember that adding PPAs basically voids your ubuntu warranty ;)  i'd try to avoid them, if you can...
[18:19] <rb-tnc> lix: that last links seems to be my issue i need to read more to be sure though
[18:19] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys quick question what is the default permissions that /home should have
[18:19] <lix> rb-tnc: good. hope it helps
[18:19] <dougbb> Anyone else having problems with the new tbird?
[18:19] <saiarcot895> dougbb: I am
[18:19] <GarrettKajmowicz> KI7MT: All versions >= 2.6.32-47 are failing (including 3.2.0-51) and dropping to busybox. Version 2.6.32-46 succeeds. However, that was the last kernel image which was built before I attempted to upgrade to 12.04. It's possible it's a userspace boot application issue.
[18:19] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: what ever you want it to be - you can make it as secure or as open as you want
[18:20] <saiarcot895> dougbb: folders duplicated, error with Bamboo Feed Reader (but seems to work fine)
[18:20] <dougbb> saiarcot895: the compose window is screwed up on mine, you seeing the same?
[18:20] <Psil0Cybin> ikonia: i want to make it as secure as possible, when i was encrypting my home drive i had to mount /home as rw
[18:20] <Psil0Cybin> do you think that is fine to leave like that?
[18:20] <saiarcot895> dougbb: compose window seems to be fine
[18:20] <Psil0Cybin> or do i have to mount it as mo?
[18:20] <Psil0Cybin> ro**
[18:20] <Rory> Psil0Cybin: mine says: drwxr-xr-x 61 root       root               4.0K Sep 10 15:57 .
[18:20] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: it has to be read-write
[18:20] <Psil0Cybin> okay
[18:20] <Psil0Cybin> so thats fine
[18:20] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: why are you encypting it ? is your data really "that" private
[18:20] <Psil0Cybin> that i mount /home as rw
[18:20] <dougbb> saiarcot895: interesting
[18:20] <Psil0Cybin> ikonia: nope but i like the idea of keeping things private.
[18:20] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: it has to be mounted read/write - what's more important is the permissions
[18:21] <jjavaholic> is there a game like terraria that I can play in ubuntu?
[18:21] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: you'll find more problems with encyption
[18:21] <Psil0Cybin> well so far, my system "was not" encrypted
[18:21] <saiarcot895> dougbb: I'm guessing its profile needs to be deleted and recreated from scratch due to version incompatibilities
[18:21] <zykotick9> Psil0Cybin: ubuntu's (and debian's) default for home dirs of drwxr-xr-x is rather unusual.  many other distros aren't so open by default...
[18:21] <Psil0Cybin> but now it looks like it is without a problem
[18:21] <trism> rb-tnc: you don't have the gnome ppa do you? because nautilus-dropbox is crashing in a similar manner with nautilus 3.8, bug 1193522
[18:21] <dougbb> ikonia, there is nothing wrong with encryption :)
[18:21] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: what do you mean "it is"
[18:21] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: have you configured encyption on it, yes or now ?
[18:21] <ikonia> no
[18:21] <rb-tnc> lix: unfortunatly thats not the same bug ;(
[18:21] <Psil0Cybin> yes
[18:21] <lix> dougbb: upgraded tbird yesterday and it works fine for me. did you upgrade the plugins as well?
[18:21] <rb-tnc> trism: no i dont
[18:21] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: how did you encypt it ?
[18:21] <dougbb> saiarcot895: yeah, that is what I was afraid of :-/
[18:22] <dougbb> lix: yes
[18:22] <Psil0Cybin> i ran ecryptfs-migrate-home -u psil0cybin (my username)
[18:22] <Psil0Cybin> what happend was it said i could not write to a file
[18:22] <KI7MT> GarrettKajmowicz, or a kernel parameter that's being passed which is causing an issue, like rootdelay=90
[18:22] <Psil0Cybin> so someone told me to mount /home as rw
[18:22] <Psil0Cybin> and i did that and it worked
[18:22] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: well, good luck with that then, I suspect you'll hit a problem in approx 30 days.
[18:22] <Psil0Cybin> why is that ikonia
[18:22] <Psil0Cybin> ?
[18:22] <rb-tnc> trism: and i have tried removing all traces of db to solve the issue because i read a bunch of bugs involving db extensions
[18:22] <Psil0Cybin> do please explain because everything seems perfectly fine atn.
[18:22] <Psil0Cybin> atm*
[18:22] <GarrettKajmowicz> KI7MT: I have a non-GUI server install which I've upgraded many times. Apparently the LTSP package is used for thin client setups, which is why I said I wasn't running it. I also checked to see if I had it installed, and I don't.
[18:23] <Rory> Psil0Cybin: It's based just off experience with people's problems in this channel. Encrypted home directories seem to cause problems
[18:23] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: because encyption is not as straight forward as it seems and new users/inexperienced users seem to hit a problem within a month that causes them to either lose their data or be locked out of it and lose it for ever
[18:23] <maxforthewin> hey everybody is there how kows about squid proxy with webmin
[18:23] <maxforthewin> ?
[18:23] <Rory> !webmin | maxforthewin
[18:23] <ikonia> maxforthewin: webmin is not supported on ubuntu
[18:23] <Psil0Cybin> ikonia: w2hat ever i might as well learn now its not like its my school computer.
[18:23] <dougbb> Psil0Cybin: FWIW, I have had very good look with truecrypt, fwiw
[18:23] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: as I said "good luck" then
[18:23] <tasse> Hi, I just configured a FTP server with proftp. Everything seems to work fine but whenever I login I don't see any files (the files in the directory are owned by the user that is logging in). The proftp log files dont help me at all (no errors or anything)
[18:23] <GarrettKajmowicz> KI7MT: I've tried passing in rootdelay=15 and the system booted within 2 seconds.
[18:23] <Rory> Psil0Cybin: Make sure you have backups, then absolutely play with encryption
[18:24] <Psil0Cybin> oh man everyones scaring me :P
[18:24] <Psil0Cybin> aha
[18:24] <KI7MT> GarrettKajmowicz, so the upgrade is a server lts to lts .. ok.
[18:24] <maxforthewin> i have installed it but i don't know how to configure my server is there anybody how could help me ouver teamviewer ? that would be great ? :)
[18:24] <ikonia> tasse: I suspect it's logging you into FTP root, rather than the real file system you expect
[18:24] <GarrettKajmowicz> KI7MT: Right. Given that it's my home email server/web proxy/etc., I prefer to minimize the number of times I change distros. It takes time and causes angst.  :-)
[18:24] <ikonia> maxforthewin: webmin is not supported on ubuntu,
[18:24] <Psil0Cybin> so you guys think im fine with my home permissions? How can i quickly check what permissions my home folder are, so i can check if it is the same as you guys.
[18:25] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: it shouldn't be the "same as us"
[18:25] <tasse> but the log files tell me that it is chrooting to the correct directory
[18:25] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: it should be what you want/need to make your system ru
[18:25] <ikonia> run
[18:25] <KI7MT> GarrettKajmowicz, nailing this down not gonna me quick / easy,. it's module, driver or parameter, none-of-which are easily nailed in busybox
[18:25] <Rory> Psil0Cybin: If it's working, and it's as secure as you require, then it's good.
[18:25] <GarrettKajmowicz> KI7MT: I first started trying to diagnose this in July. I know about Not Quick.  :-)
[18:26] <KI7MT> LOL
[18:26] <GarrettKajmowicz> I'll take any help I can get.
[18:26] <Psil0Cybin> yes but if my home directory is encrypted, but its read/write, does that mean that only other user accounts can change the files?
[18:26] <tasse> is there any possibility to check in which directory the user is ikonia ? (except for the logs?)
[18:26] <Psil0Cybin> rory: i just want to make sure that no one else but me can see my home directory
[18:26] <Psil0Cybin> or add files into it etc.
[18:27] <KI7MT> GarrettKajmowicz, to be honest, the best route is probably going into ubuntu-dev / kernel or server .. ubuntu-dev and kernel gurus are all over this stuff.
[18:27] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: so make the permisson 700 then
[18:27] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: or rwx--
[18:27] <maxforthewin> is there anybody who can help me you could write me an email maximilan.grossmann@t-online.de and I give you the passwort and the id for teamviewer
[18:27] <ikonia> maxforthewin: stop asking
[18:27] <Psil0Cybin> ikonia: sorry im kind of new i would run the command chmod /home 700 ?
[18:27] <ikonia> maxforthewin: webmin is NOT supported
[18:27] <Psil0Cybin> how can i check what the permission is
[18:27] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: no, thats the home directory, not YOUR home directory
[18:27] <Psil0Cybin> atm
[18:27] <Pici> maxforthewin: we don't provide remote support here period.
[18:27] <Psil0Cybin> so
[18:27] <Psil0Cybin> chmod /home/psil0cybin 700
[18:27] <Psil0Cybin> ?
[18:27] <maxforthewin> but I don't know how to do it in a other way
[18:27] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: you really are running before waling looking at encyption before basic permissions
[18:28] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: sudo chmod -R 700 /home/psil0cybin
[18:28] <Psil0Cybin> yea probably am :(
[18:28] <Psil0Cybin> okay last question ikonia and ill leave you alone, how can i check the permissions of a folder
[18:28] <Psil0Cybin> before i change anything
[18:28] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: open it in the file manager and right click on it
[18:28] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: it's in the properties menu
[18:29] <Bower^> hey. i'm hoping someone can help me with getting ubuntu installed on my new machine. it basically kills my display when i attempt to boot up Ubuntu or the LiveCD. please check the following thread for more details: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2175316
[18:29] <Psil0Cybin> ikonia: it just says Access: read and write, Group: psil0cybin Access: none, Others: none
[18:29] <Psil0Cybin> is that fine
[18:29] <Psil0Cybin> ?
[18:29] <Bower^> i'm quite worried this doesn't have a solution meaning i can't do work on my new machine...
[18:29] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: ok, so think about that that means
[18:29] <dougbb> Psil0Cybin: ls -ld <foldername>
[18:30] <Psil0Cybin> ikonia: if i am not wrong it looks like only I can edit my home folder or view it
[18:30] <Psil0Cybin> and only I can read and write to it
[18:30] <Psil0Cybin> correct?
[18:30] <Psil0Cybin> if others could, it would be selected in others correct?
[18:30] <ikonia> Psil0Cybin: pretty much
[18:31] <Psil0Cybin> okay so i guess i can just leave it as is, if i want it to only be accessible to me.
[18:31] <GeekDude> Is it just me, or will gedit not come out of full-screen mode while using xming over ssh?
[18:32] <chaotic_good> does JFS work with lvm2 resize2fs
[18:32] <chaotic_good> ?
[18:32] <Pici> GeekDude: you're likely not running a window manager.
[18:32] <ikonia> chaotic_good: why are you using JFS, it's pretty dead in the real world
[18:33] <GeekDude> Pici: I don't understand. "Window manager"?
[18:33] <Bower^> are the any common fixes for getting a display when booting up from HDD/LiveCD besides enabling "nomodeset"?
[18:34] <Pici> GeekDude: is a program than manages windows, otherwise your programs will just show up on the root display and you won't be able to move or minimize/maximize them.  Compiz and metacity are both popular window managers.
[18:34] <GeekDude> Pici: XMing seems to have broken my clipboard
[18:35] <GeekDude> Pici: I hit F11 to make it look like this, but hitting F11 again doesn't isable it https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2808065/Caps/Temp/19143355.png
[18:36] <quantumpants> Can anybody please advise me on where i can find a working download link for "sudo apt-get upgrade" :)
[18:36] <bekks> quantumpants: Thats a command to be typed in your terminal.
[18:37] <rypervenche> He means the repositories for his sources.list I believe.
[18:37] <GeekDude> Pici: what's the difference between compiz and xming? are they fundamentally different?
[18:37] <delinquentme> how to get website via curl with port number?
[18:38] <ikonia> delinquentme: have you done "man curl" to see the options
[18:38] <Pici> GeekDude: xming is not a window manager. Its a display server.
[18:38] <Pici> quantumpants: What release of Ubuntu are you currently running?
[18:38] <quantumpants> Bekks, I tryed that and I didnt seem to work.  pici im running 12.04.
[18:39] <Pici> quantumpants: Why didn't it work, what happened instead?
[18:39] <liquiz> hi all
[18:39] <bekks> quantumpants: What happens exactly, whats the exact error message?
[18:39] <GeekDude> Pici: You're suggesting I install Compiz and use it in conjunction with XMing, or should I just use VNC and forget about X
[18:39] <delinquentme> ikonia, theres like a million options
[18:39] <quantumpants> Pici. hold on ill get it now
[18:40] <Pici> GeekDude: I'd personally use metacity.  I was just giving examples of what a window manager was.
[18:40] <KI7MT> curl  http://<web-site.com:##### is the basic command + options
[18:40] <KI7MT> without the < of course :-)
[18:40] <GeekDude> Pici: Is it possible to use X forwarding over SSH to view already-opened applications?
[18:40] <ikonia> delinquentme: so read them and look for the port option
[18:41] <Pici> GeekDude: not to my nowledge.
[18:41] <delinquentme> ikonia, you're a shitty human
[18:41] <Pici> er, knowledge.
[18:41] <Pici> !language | delinquentme
[18:41] <quantumpants> Ok Bekks and Pici, it all seems to be working but im still unable to download g++ from the Softwere centre
[18:41] <bekks> quantumpants: Why?
[18:41] <eer> Is there a command that gives me the brand of the graphics card (like MSI)? The machine is running right now and I can not turn it upside down.
[18:41] <bekks> eer: lspci
[18:41] <Pici> eer: lshw as well.
[18:41] <quantumpants> this> g++: Depends: cpp (>= 4:4.6.2-4ubuntu1) but 4:4.6.3-1ubuntu5 is to be installed      Depends: gcc (>= 4:4.6.2-4ubuntu1) but 4:4.6.3-1ubuntu5 is to be installed
[18:42] <KI7MT> delinquentme, that wasn't very nice either, we're all here trying to help.
[18:42] <bekks> quantumpants: Use a pastebin to show us the complete, full, exact error message please.
[18:42] <GeekDude> Pici: I think I will just use VNC. I feel it fits my needs better. Any reason I would want to use X forwarding instead of VNC?
[18:42] <eer> bekks, Pici not both don't show it. They only show GeForece 7400GT
[18:42] <ikonia> delinquentme: the man page is there for a reason - checking for the port option on how to use it is a simple/basic first point of call
[18:42] <quantumpants> As you can tell guys im very new to all things computers
[18:42] <ikonia> delinquentme: that's all other people will do is read the man page, find the option and tell you, so checking yourself is a good start
[18:42] <delinquentme> ikonia, thanks
[18:42] <bekks> eer: Thats an Nvidia. Neither MSI, or other companies manufacture graphics cards.
[18:43] <GeekDude> Pici: Is a window manager something that I would need in windows to use x forwarding properply, or is it something that would already be installed on, say, ubuntu 12.04LTS
[18:43] <user15_> hlhjlhjlh
[18:43] <quantumpants> bekks, this seems to be the full message. =The following packages have unmet dependencies:  g++: Depends: cpp (>= 4:4.6.2-4ubuntu1) but 4:4.6.3-1ubuntu5 is to be installed      Depends: gcc (>= 4:4.6.2-4ubuntu1) but 4:4.6.3-1ubuntu5 is to be installed
[18:44] <bekks> quantumpants: Use a pastebin to show us the complete, full, exact error message please.
[18:44] <GeekDude> Pici: (Desktop edition)
[18:44] <bekks> !pastebin | quantumpants
[18:44] <bekks> quantumpants: And pastebin the output of sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade; too
[18:45] <Pici> GeekDude: If you already use the desktop edition, then you already use a window manager, you would just need it to be running before you start running your apps.
[18:45] <quantumpants> Sorry bekks, im new to ubuntu. might take me a while to work out sorry
[18:46] <bekks> quantumpants: Just read what ubottu told you.
[18:46] <KI7MT> quackgyver, Install build-essential gives you gcc and g++
[18:46] <KI7MT> whoops .. was ment for quantumpants
[18:47] <GeekDude> Pici: Fullscreen toggle works great in the desktop environment over VNC, but it won't let me toggle off while on windows with XMing. I'm unsure how this has anything to do with my window manager.
[18:47] <gordonjcp> heh, I was about to say, just apt-get install build-essential
[18:47] <quantumpants> on it bekks :)
[18:47] <KI7MT> I has other tools also, but that will pull the gcc deps.
[18:49] <jhutchins> build-essentialls will also install the kitchen sink, along with several choices of curtains to go over it, but it will get the job done.
[18:50] <frozenlock> Is there a way to force ubuntu to accept an IP as a broadcast? I want to keep my current IP, netmask and broadcast address, by I want to add another address as a broadcast.
[18:50] <eer> bekks, http://www.cdrinfo.com/Sections/Reviews/Print.aspx?ArticleId=18130
[18:50] <KI7MT> Indeed, it's allot, but for those that dont navigate through shark infested waters, it's a quick solution.
[18:50] <mackwerk_> Hi I need to route all my internet traffic through a proxy I have on localhost:8080 but I can't seem to find anything tangible on that, does any of you know how?
[18:51] <quantumpants> bekks, http://imagebin.org/271379
[18:51] <loadid_czech> mackwerk_: iptables?
[18:51] <loadid_czech> maybe host file?
[18:51] <eer> How can I find out what graphics card is really in there? http://pastebin.com/qw18r0Ur
[18:52] <KI7MT> sudo lshw -C display
[18:52] <loadid_czech> G73 [GeForce 7600 GT] is your graphics card
[18:52] <mackwerk_> I'll check out iptables, thanks :)
[18:52] <bekks> eer: MSI does not manufacture graphics cards. You have an Nvidia Geforce.
[18:53] <eer> loadid_czech, i tried to google it but the pictures looked different. mine is passivlely cooled
[18:53] <KI7MT> and lspci | grep "VGA" for GPU MFG info
[18:54] <Pici> bekks: actually they, do, they just don't create the chipsets
[18:54] <KI7MT> MSI is a a packager, not MFG of the GPU chips.
[18:54] <bekks> Pici: They manufacture licensed models from Nvidia, yeah.
[18:55] <BluesKaj> there are several nvidia gpu mfg's
[18:55] <KI7MT> Nvidia, VIA, ATI(AMD) etc are GPU MFG's
[18:55] <KI7MT> Then the Pakager list can go on all day :-)
[18:55] <quantumpants> bekkshttp://imagebin.org/271380
[18:56] <BluesKaj> graphics card mfg's rather
[18:56] <quantumpants> bekks, http://imagebin.org/271380
[18:56] <dougbb> eer, I have a geforce that is passively cooled in my desktop
[18:56] <mackwerk_> loadid_czech: Do you know off the top of your head how to proxy all traffic to localhost:8080 with iptables? I haven't been able to find anything doing exactly that
[18:57] <Pici> quantumpants: What does apt-cache policy g++ say?
[18:57] <dougbb> eer: it's an OEM card with an nvidia gpu, that may be what you have
[18:58] <quantumpants> Pici, where would i find that? sorry im a newb
[18:58] <KI7MT> mackwerk, http://serverfault.com/questions/509167/force-clients-to-use-proxy
[18:58] <Pici> quantumpants: open a terminal and type that
[18:59] <quantumpants> yup, just thought of that lol
[18:59] <mojtaba> Hi, Do you know how can I backup my windows system via network with my ubuntu system? I want to make a backup server. should I format the data hard drive NTFS? If so, will I need to defragment it later?
[19:00] <ikonia_> mojtaba: format it to a format that the backup tool can read and write
[19:01] <mojtaba> ikonia_: Do you know what should I do?
[19:01] <ikonia_> mojtaba: exactly what I've just said
[19:02] <quantumpants> Pici, http://imagebin.org/271382
[19:02] <dougbb> ikonia, that's not a very helpful response ... if you're not interested in actually helping people, maybe you should not say anything at all
[19:02] <ikonia_> dougbb: how is that not helpful ?
[19:02] <dougbb> mojtaba: do you have a specific backup system in mind, or are you starting completely from scratch?
[19:02] <Guest92740> Is possible to install unity in ubuntu 12.10 remix? How can i do?
[19:03] <mojtaba> dougbb: I am starting from scratch
[19:03] <polter> Guest92740: as long as it's using the Ubuntu repositories it should be totally possible
[19:03] <Pici> quantumpants: The repository mirror you are using is out of date, pick a different one.
[19:04] <quantumpants> Pici, I would if i knew how, hold on while i read up on it
[19:04] <dougbb> mojtaba: Ok, what kind of backups do you want? Do you want to simply keep a live copy of the existing files, or do you want to take periodic snapshots of the files so that you can go back and get older versions of the documents/
[19:04] <wilee-nilee> Guest92740, If you want the remix you will have to download the iso and install, it is just the gnome-shell by itself, which is installable in a unity setuo, you just have unity still.
[19:05] <dougbb> mojtaba: also, how much data are we talking about?
[19:05] <KI7MT> Ig you have Rmix already, just add ubuntu-desktop then you have both, Gnome and Untiy
[19:06] <polter> Guest92740: to install Unity you could either use the software center, another graphical package manager, och do " sudo apt-get install unity" in a terminal window
[19:06] <mojtaba> dougbb: I would like to simply keep a live copy or maybe scheduled copy of the data. I have 3 machines running windows servers and the data is about > 2TB
[19:06] <bekks> mojtaba: Setup a bacula server.
[19:07] <wilee-nilee> heh I read that backwards, doh
[19:07] <bekks> mojtaba: Its not that "Gimme ten minutes" thing - instead, you will take a few days until you have it up and running.
[19:07] <wilee-nilee> polter, It would be the ubuntu desktop is al
[19:08] <bekks> mojtaba: And depending on your needs, opensource source software will not suffice.
[19:08] <mojtaba> bekks: Why? Do you have an example in mind?
[19:08] <dougbb> mojtaba, bekks: yeah, bacula is probably the right solution for a project that size, and bekks is right about the learning curve, but that's going to be true no matter what system you choose
[19:09] <bekks> mojtaba: AD backups, backups of running MSSQL databases, etc.
[19:10] <mojtaba> bekks: I see, then bacula is the best one?
[19:10] <eer> I have this video card but how can I find out what the max screen resolution is for it? MSI NX7600GT-VT2D256E Geforce 7600GT
[19:10] <KI7MT> Bacula, Amanda, Enterprise Linux, all good / robust solutions, but as bekks said, takes time to implement them.
[19:11] <bekks> mojtaba: Depends on your needs. Bacula is the most sophisticated linux backup  software thats opensource.
[19:11] <bekks> KI7MT: Commercial solutions would be Symantec NetBackup, Symantec BackupExed.
[19:11] <bekks> -d+c
[19:11] <Pici> *exec
[19:11] <KI7MT> Yeah, loads of commercial stuff available.
[19:12] <dougbb> eer: what happens when you google for that model number? Do you find a spec sheet?
[19:12] <mojtaba> dougbb, bekss: Thank you very much. I will take a look.
[19:12] <dougbb> mojtaba: glad to help, good luck :)
[19:12] <KI7MT> Then, there is rzync + Cygwin :-) that works too LOL
[19:12] <bekks> eer: You still have Nvidia Geforce 7400GT.
[19:13] <quantumpants> Pici, Ive had a go in the terminal but seem to have failed
[19:13] <bekks> KI7MT: There are "native" rsync solutions for Windows.
[19:13] <dougbb> Yeah, I looked at deltacopy for a while, seemed decent
[19:14] <dougbb> in the end I went back to just using rsync while I was booted in linux
[19:14] <Nickeeh> AHOY ME MATEYS. I be looking for a treasure application that will round up all me logfiles into one nice view so I don't have to open them all.
[19:14] <bekks> dougbb: Deltacopy is aone of the worst solutions ;) Better use robocopy and one of the zillions of GUIs, like YARCGUI.
[19:14] <Nickeeh> (when something just crashed)
[19:15] <kriskropd> does anyone here know how to append arguments for mplayer insdie ranger file manager's apps.py?
[19:15] <dougbb> bekks: you're probably right, my best solution so far has been to avoid the problem :)
[19:15] <dougbb> Nickeeh: are your options limited to open source? If not, splunk is generally considered the best tool for that job
[19:15] <kriskropd> inside* I tried using this to no avail      return self.either(c, 'mplayer -ass -vf screenshot -osdlevel 3 -capture')
[19:16] <Guest92740> I alwayse use apt-get upgrade to upgrade my packages. Shoud i use apt-get dist-upgrade also?
[19:17] <Nickeeh> dougbb: what? that's a bit of overkill.. just want to sum up /var/log. ;D
[19:17] <wilee-nilee> Guest92740, For kernel upgrades yes.
[19:17] <Pici> quantumpants: The gui is usually an easier method of changing your repositories, It should be a menu option in the software center for it.
[19:17] <bekks> Nickeeh: Then use grep and awk :)
[19:18] <dougbb> Nickeeh: .... yeah, what bekks said ... if it's just one system I don't see your problem
[19:18] <eer> Is there a way to find out under KDE what the max screen resolution is of my graphics card?
[19:18] <quantumpants> thanks pici
[19:18] <Pici> quantumpants: I don't use the gui all that often so I'm not sure exactly where it is.
[19:18] <wilee-nilee> Guest92740, I use it everytime but thats just me, you want to be careful not to do partial upgrades is all.
[19:18] <KI7MT> bekks, yeah, I've seen a few in passing, not Windows guru so I don't keep up on Win stuff.
[19:19] <Kaylors> Need an image that installs offline. Not one that requires download of extra files during installation. Older versions are fine.
[19:19] <quantumpants> does anybody know where the gui is that will help me change my Mirror?
[19:19] <bekks> Kaylors: Use the regular install cd.
[19:20] <wilee-nilee> quantumpants, software-properties-gtk  open the gui
[19:20] <wilee-nilee> opens*
[19:20] <KI7MT> quantumpants, it's in the Update Mannager: Dash >>  Update Manager >> Ubuntu Software >> Download From
[19:20] <Kaylors> Havent got one. I'll download an image. I used Ubuntu 12.04 LTS, but got a 700 MB image and the rest was downloaded. Now my friend wont have net on his PC so he needs one complete image.
[19:21] <KI7MT> If you select "Other" you can get it to check the fastest mirrors
[19:22] <Kaylors> Anyone?
[19:23] <KI7MT> Kaylors,  http://cloud-images.ubuntu.com/
[19:23] <wilee-nilee> Kaylors, You can download any release you want, whats the issue.
[19:23] <eer> mumixam, but it says: "High-quality scaling technology delivers a clear, clean image at any window size, including full-screen HDTV resolutions up to 1080p." That would be only 1920 x 1080
[19:24] <FiremanEd> quantupants: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors  will tell you which are up-to-date
[19:24] <fahadash> Is there any software on ubuntu to fix problem with external hard drives ?
[19:24] <bekks> fahadash: Which problem?
[19:24] <wilee-nilee> fahadash, problem being?
[19:24] <quantumpants> just updating from a local server
[19:24] <fahadash> Its actually a sata drive which was once windows machines drive but now inside an enclosure.... I insert it into windows 7 machine and it says "Disk is not formatted, do you want to format it now?"
[19:25] <quantumpants> all of a sudden 82 updates apear :)
[19:25] <quantumpants> I love you guys :)
[19:25] <fahadash> I don't want to format, i would lose data. I tried this one "free" program which took 3 hours to show me list of files it recovered, but in order to save those files it asked me for $80
[19:25] <fahadash> The drive is NTFS
[19:25] <Pici> quantumpants: After you install those you should be able to get build-essential installed
[19:25] <wilee-nilee> fahadash, You sure the enclosure is good I bought one brand new a cheap one that did not work very well. Is there partitions on it?
[19:25] <KI7MT> Kaylors, My bad.. those are cloud images :-) http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/
[19:26] <fahadash> wilee-nilee: Yes there are partitions
[19:26] <fahadash> Only one of them is unreadable which is NTFS
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> fahadash, Could be a bad enclosure, might need a chkdsk...etc
[19:26] <wilee-nilee> might be a bad drive
[19:26] <fahadash> windows chkdsk wont read it
[19:26] <Kaylors> KI7MT: Thanks, bro..cheers.
[19:27] <loa> hello, how i can change icon for application launcher on unity dock?
[19:27] <fahadash> Its a $10 sata enclosure I got from walmart
[19:27] <geirha> Kaylors: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/alternative-downloads -> Other images -> Choose a mirror near you, download the *-dvd-*.iso
[19:27] <wilee-nilee> fahadash, could be any number of variables, knock them out.
[19:27] <fahadash> So ubuntu does not have any data-recovery tool ?
[19:27] <quantumpants> all of a sudden 82 updates apear :)
[19:27] <quantumpants> Thanks Pici
[19:27] <wilee-nilee> fahadash, I would suspect the enclosure, 10$ from kmart
[19:28] <fahadash> walmart
[19:28] <wilee-nilee> same thing
[19:28] <wilee-nilee> cheap
[19:28] <fortunecookie> kmart = walmart?
[19:28] <splorc> there's ddrescue, don't know how well it works
[19:28] <fahadash> I am getting a NAS enclosure soon, may be if I stick the drive in there it would be able to read it
[19:29] <wilee-nilee> fortunecookie, minor difference, think about it.
[19:30] <KI7MT> fahadash, a couple data recovery tools, if needed , SafeCopy, ddrescue
[19:30] <splorc> https://www.gnu.org/software/ddrescue/manual/ddrescue_manual.html has some examples of how to use it
[19:30] <wilee-nilee> gotta be able to actually read the HD first
[19:31] <fahadash> wilee-nilee: There is one called Virtual Lab, it did "scan" and read all the files; but in order to save them to my backup drive; it asked for $$$
[19:32] <wilee-nilee> fahadash, I would be careful here in assuming it needs a recovery with just that cheap enclosure as part of the picture
[19:32] <KI7MT> TestDisk is a good Disk analysis tool also
[19:32] <splorc> fahadash: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[19:32] <wilee-nilee> fahadash, Did it actuallt fail?
[19:32] <fahadash> Do you think it would go very well in my new NAS Media Server that I am getting ?
[19:32] <wilee-nilee> actually*
[19:32] <fahadash> thanks splorc
[19:33] <fahadash> Windows is seeing the partition but it wont read it and ask me to format it
[19:33] <wilee-nilee> fahadash, how about ubuntu seeing it?
[19:34] <fahadash> Never tried it
[19:34] <wilee-nilee> fahadash, YOu opened the disk manager and see the partition?
[19:34] <fahadash> let me stick it into ubuntu box and see what happens
[19:35] <KI7MT> formost ddrescue and ubuntu-recovery would be good to use / test within in UB machine.
[19:36] <KI7MT> whoops foremost
[19:38] <fahadash> Disk Utility detects that partition as "Unknown" 314 GB
[19:38] <fahadash> Other extended partitions are detected fine
[19:38] <KI7MT> are the other partitions NTFS also?
[19:38] <splorc> follow the help page i linked to use ddrescue and such then
[19:38] <quantumpants> thanks pici, your awesome :)
[19:39] <fahadash> ok thanks
[19:39] <fahadash> Other partitions are FAT32 and FAT16
[19:39] <Goatman> I’m trying to mount an hfsplus image with read and write under 13.04, but the error is ‘‘File system seems to be mounted read-only’’
[19:40] <splorc> fahadash: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery#Imaging_a_damaged_device.2C_filesystem_or_drive and follow instructions
[19:40] <KI7MT> Indeed, it's gonna be a long day for someone :-)
[19:42] <Goatman> Can you mount a dd image with a fat filesystem on it?
[19:44] <francisco_> hi
[19:44] <francisco_> i can't fix my wlan
[19:44] <francisco_> I have installed the b43 driver
[19:44] <francisco_> but it doesn't run
[19:45] <bekks> details | francisco_
[19:46] <francisco_> it is a pci wlan card
[19:46] <BiscuitWhisker> howdy!
[19:46] <francisco_> broadcom 4318
[19:47] <splorc> go to the store and buy a cheap taiwanese usb dongle, with a compatible with linux item on back of box, easier
[19:47] <bekks> francisco_: Please follow that !details guideline. Tell us the requested details.
[19:48] <splorc> bekks: you forgot the !
[19:50] <aristoi_> yo
[19:50] <aristoi_> g
[19:51] <fortunecookie> is there a channel for ubuntu touch phones?
[19:51] <WarDekar> how can i turn off password SSH completely
[19:51] <k1l> fortunecookie: didnt you ask that before? its #ubuntu-touch
[19:51] <bekks> WarDekar: By using SSH keys.
[19:52] <WarDekar> bekks: i have it setup for keys i'm saying i don't want to allow pw authentication on the server side
[19:52] <bekks> WarDekar: Then use SSH keys, and disable passwd auth.
[19:52] <WarDekar> that's what i'm asking, how to disable passwd auth
[19:52] <bekks> WarDekar: And enable kay auth
[19:52] <sanman> hello, I'm trying to debug and issue I'm having with an apache module and need to get debug symbols for a library called liblasso, but they don't seem to be in the repos, does anyone know if there are alternate repos that have debug symbols?
[19:53] <sneezewort> Is there anything wrong with appending ipv4 entries below the ipv6 entries in /etc/hosts?
[19:54] <bekks> WarDekar: After successfully testing key auth, change "PasswordAuthentication yes" to no in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[19:54] <bekks> sneezewort: No.
[19:54] <sneezewort> bekks, thanks.
[19:54] <bariho> hi there. I just installed xubuntu 12.04.3 to an usb hard drive. now when I try to boot it, I see some grub text for the fraction of a second and then the computer reboots. now what do I do?
[19:55] <wilee-nilee> bariho, Do you see the grub menu?
[19:56] <bariho> wilee-nilee: no, just some text, a few words, grub is one of them. I can't read it, it's gone to fast.
[19:56] <wilee-nilee> hold down shift if this is the only os on the HD when powering on bariho
[19:57] <wilee-nilee> bariho, Any linux on the computer, a grub menu there?
[19:58] <francisco_> Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[19:58] <francisco_> but I have installed its driver (b43)
[19:59] <bekks> francisco_: Please provide full details.
[19:59] <bejker> hi. some one know kow to lunch ts3 client as root? when i try as root ./ts3client_linux_x86 i got response ts3client_linux_x86: cannot connect to X server :0
[20:00] <bariho> wilee-nilee: holding shift didn't help. no, no other linux installation on that computer. I can plug the drive in my other computer (with linux) though.
[20:00] <francisco_> how can i provide you full details???
[20:00] <KI7MT> sanman, you could try the ubuntu lasso src: http://packages.ubuntu.com/source/precise/lasso along wiht info from their homepage: http://lasso.entrouvert.org/
[20:01] <wilee-nilee> bariho, If you have a grub using install on the other plug it in ands run sudo update-grub there to add it to its grub menu and see if it boots, if not I would just reinstall it, and make sure grub goes to the external mbr.
[20:02] <lmat> How do I get cvsps v3 using ubuntu ?
[20:02] <wilee-nilee> bariho, If it gets booted from another grub menu you can install grub to its mbr from its desktop
[20:02] <sanman> KI7MT, that's what I'm doing now
[20:02] <sanman> KI7MT, I'm just rebuilding the package with debug symbols
[20:03] <KI7MT> sanman, Im not finding allot of debug info, I guess -g and gdb is best bet.
[20:03] <francisco_> Se puede hablar en españo???
[20:03] <Akiva-Thinkpad> I want to use ubuntu as a server for doing local windows installations over a network. Did I say that right? Where is a good tutorial?
[20:04] <Rory> lmat: It looks like you can only get it from the author's webpage http://www.cobite.com/cvsps/
[20:04] <bariho> wilee-nilee: ok, i'll try with the other computer later, can'T reboot that one right now. and I did make sure grub goes to the external drive's mbr. there wouldn't be any grub text otherwise, right? the drive was empty.
[20:04] <lmat> Rory: Thanks.
[20:04] <wilee-nilee> bariho, With a stanard install you should see a grub menu, a external will run really slow anyway.
[20:05] <chaotic_good> ok what do I apt get to get java 7?
[20:05] <Rory> lmat: Version 3 doesn't exist though
[20:05] <chaotic_good> riddle me hat
[20:05] <chaotic_good> er that
[20:05] <Rory> What Ubuntu version, chaotic_good ?
[20:05] <chaotic_good> 1204lts
[20:05] <smw94> chaotic_good, download open-jdk
[20:05] <Rory> !info openjdk-7-jre precise
[20:05] <wilee-nilee> bariho, Have you checked the sum of the iso you loaded to install?
[20:05] <chaotic_good> oow
[20:05] <tasslehoff> Any idea how I can set a shell script as the default application for opening a certain file type?
[20:06] <Rory> !java > chaotic_good
[20:06] <chaotic_good> do they have oracle jdk? I think work might need that
[20:06] <KI7MT> depends on if you want the JDK or just runtime
[20:06] <chaotic_good> thats a good question
[20:06] <francisco_> i'm gonna get mad
[20:07] <KI7MT> for runtim is sudo apt-get purge openjdk* but JDK apears to be a bit more
[20:07] <bekks> francisco_: Then tell us what the real problem is, we cant guess it.
[20:07] <bekks> !details | francisco_
[20:07] <KI7MT> thentar -xvf ~/Downloads/jre-7u3-linux-i586.tar.gz and go from there
[20:07] <Rory> chaotic_good: Why do you need java? Are you programming in Java or just need to run Java applications?
[20:07] <ggherdov> hello. when you do a release upgrade and configuration files are replaced bcse the syntaz changed or whatever, where are the old config files stored ? I remember there was a place ...
[20:07] <KI7MT> or whatever platform your using <i686, x86_64 etc>
[20:08] <chaotic_good> mongodb at work
[20:08] <ggherdov> syntax*
[20:08] <chaotic_good> whats the switch to dpkg to search for java pakcages?
[20:08] <francisco_> I'm trying 12.04 Lts Xubunu
[20:08] <francisco_> Xubuntu
[20:08] <chaotic_good> gaa mna has dpkg-query?
[20:08] <Rory> chaotic_good: You just need the JRE (Java Runtime Environment) then.
[20:08] <Rory> apt-cache search java
[20:08] <francisco_> and I have this wlan pci Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[20:08] <bariho> wilee-nilee: I checked it now, it's correct.
[20:09] <francisco_> so i found up that my driver is B43
[20:09] <JHOSMAN> Someone knows some framework for HTML5 presentations Ubuntu?
[20:09] <francisco_> I have installed it through the ubuntu software center
[20:09] <chaotic_good> default-jdk - Standard Java or Java compatible Development Kit  is this the Oracle java?
[20:10] <KI7MT> chaotic_good, "fairly simple" RTE for JRE-7: http://www.liberiangeek.net/2012/04/install-oracle-java-runtime-jre-7-in-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[20:10] <Rory> chaotic_good: No, the Oracle Java can't be distributed through Ubuntu repositories for legal reasons
[20:10] <KI7MT> Not sure how up to date the version are.
[20:10] <wilee-nilee> bariho, All we can do is assume you followed a good path here and that the external will work, and maybe just needs another try, or you could boot a live cd and run the bootrepair, just the bootinfo summary to generate the boot script to look at.
[20:10] <francisco_> but when i restart my laptop it doesnt work
[20:10] <Rory> WebUpd8 has a PPA which is generally well trusted: http://www.webupd8.org/2012/01/install-oracle-java-jdk-7-in-ubuntu-via.html
[20:10] <chaotic_good> curse oracle 10,000 times
[20:10] <lmat> Rory: oh.
[20:10] <Rory> francisco_: Can you open a terminal and run the command: sudo apt-get --reinstall install bcmwl-kernel-source
[20:11] <wilee-nilee> bariho, This ia the bootrepair app be careful here, I would start with the bootinfo summary only. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[20:12] <hellyeah> hey
[20:12] <Rory> Hello hellyeah
[20:12] <hellyeah> i am not sure my os use nvidia driver how can i check
[20:13] <KI7MT> chaotic_good, UBuntu info on JRE Install: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Java
[20:13] <bekks> hellyeah: "lsmod | grep nvidia"
[20:13] <francisco_> Rory I followed your advice
[20:13] <lmat> Rory: http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.git/213170  suggests that there was a v3 in January.
[20:13] <francisco_> install complete
[20:13] <francisco_> d
[20:14] <hellyeah> bekks:  i got nothing that means there is no driver? It is just free nvidia driver or vesa driver
[20:14] <francisco_> and then, Rory?
[20:14] <Rory> francisco_: Now run the command: sudo modprobe -r b43 ssb wl brcmfmac brcmsmac bcma
[20:14] <Ari-Yang> hellyeah, what ubuntu version are you using?
[20:14] <Rory> francisco_: And then run the command: sudo modprobe wl
[20:14] <hellyeah> 13.04,
[20:15] <Ari-Yang> hellyeah, are you using Unity perhaps?
[20:15] <hellyeah> yeah
[20:15] <hellyeah> i am using unity it seems
[20:15] <Ari-Yang> hellome, in dash board, type software sources and go to 'Additional Drivers' tab
[20:15] <Ari-Yang> from there you can select what driver you can use, hellyeah
[20:15] <bekks> hellyeah: freen nvidia driver would be "lsmod|grep nouveau"
[20:15] <Rory> francisco_: Allow several seconds for the network manager to scan for available networks before attempting a connection.
[20:16] <hellyeah> Ari-Yang:  hw can i select can you tell me
[20:16] <hellyeah> i am not sure nvidia package was installed
[20:16] <Ari-Yang> hellyeah, I g2g, I'm sure you can figure out how to select a driver from a list ._______.
[20:17] <hellyeah> when i use 11.04 or previous version everytime system asked me about installing nvidia properity driver
[20:17] <bekks> hellyeah: I guess it wasnt.
[20:17] <hellyeah> now it didnt ask
[20:17] <francisco_> Rory, Those commands doesnt work, when i eject them, console is freezen
[20:17] <Rory> francisco_: Did the first one work? Which one made it freeze?
[20:18] <francisco_> both
[20:18] <hellyeah> y
[20:18] <francisco_> the first didnt work
[20:18] <Rory> francisco_: They both made it freeze? You ran the first one and it froze? So how did you run the second one?
[20:18] <Rory> francisco_: It is OK you can reboot and it should work
[20:18] <francisco_> yes
[20:19] <Rory> francisco_: Those commands were just so you don't have to reboot. But you can reboot instead
[20:19] <francisco_> and the second froze two
[20:19] <francisco_> too
[20:19] <francisco_> ok
[20:19] <Rory> Before you reboot
[20:19] <Rory> Can you run sudo apt-get update
[20:19] <francisco_> ok
[20:19] <Rory> and then sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:19] <francisco_> Rory
[20:33] <Rory> Has there been some kind of horrible netsplit or something, or has nobody said anything at all for 13 minutes?
[20:33] <DJones> Looks about right, whats the saying, silence is golden :)
[20:35] <smw94> can i change font color in gnome fallback panel ? gnome 3.8.2 version
[20:36] <everald> I'm trying to set up a samba share on my buddy's compuer that will allow me to access a particular folder, and use a paricular user which has a group shared with his user, so that with sticky bit set we can both write to the shred directory.
[20:37] <grnt> Would anyone of you use Ubuntu (or any other Linux distribution) if it cost money?
[20:37] <everald> Somehow smbd does not respect "guest account = myuser".
[20:38] <everald> Anyone knows how to do something like this?
[20:39] <Rory> !ot | grnt It's a good discussion to have in here
[20:39] <Rory> smw94: I found some information here which suggests you can edit some css, although it doesn't mention font colour specifically http://askubuntu.com/questions/69576/how-to-customize-the-gnome-classic-panel
[20:41] <smw94> Rory: thx, i've read it before
[20:42] <boneslash> got to go guys GOOD NIGHT :)
[20:42] <boneslash> hope you will get out of your problems soon guys :))
[20:44] <xan_IT> hi to all, i need help for a pc
[20:46] <xan_IT> this notebook has cpu core i7 and a AMD radeon. actually i dont use proprietary driver and the problem is that when i see fullhd avi there is some lags
[20:46] <xan_IT> 2 question: 1 how i can see which card are in use?
[20:46] <jhutchins> xan_IT: Streamed or local?
[20:46] <xan_IT> local
[20:46] <jhutchins> xan_IT: RAM?
[20:47] <xan_IT> 8gb
[20:47] <jhutchins> What player?
[20:47] <xan_IT> totem
[20:47] <xan_IT> ubuntu 32 bit
[20:47] <RonaldJ> Is it possible to remove nmbd?? It's running on 100%cpu
[20:47] <jhutchins> Try mplayer or vlc, consider installing AMD64
[20:47] <xan_IT> i dont know which card are used
[20:48] <jhutchins> RonaldJ: What does nmbd do?
[20:48] <xan_IT> there is a way to see wich video card are used actually?
[20:48] <jhutchins> RonaldJ: Do you know?
[20:49] <jhutchins> xan_IT: There might be a better way like xrand or video properties in your GUI, but you should be able to figure it out from /var/log/Xorg.0.log (it will give you a headache).
[20:49] <nicxvan> If I want a folder to be created in a users home directory automatically, what should I be googling to figure that out? I have had no luck figuring out the search terms
[20:49]  * jhutchins pokes RonaldJ 
[20:49] <nicxvan> by automatically, I mean when the account is created and for all other users in the system already
[20:49] <RonaldJ> jhutchins nmdb - Netbios name server to provide NetBIOS over OP naming...
[20:49] <xan_IT> jhutchins i can use terminal and post the output
[20:50] <RonaldJ> OP = IP
[20:51] <jhutchins> nicxvan: /usr/share/doc/adduser/examples/adduser.local.conf.examples/skel
[20:51] <Ari-Yang> xan_IT, type this in terminal and pastebin the output lspci | grep VGA
[20:51] <jhutchins> xan_IT: No, you would have to post it to a pastebin, and YOU should be the one reading it to figure out what it's doing.
[20:51] <nicxvan> jhutchins: thanks
[20:52] <xan_IT> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 2nd Generation Core Processor Family Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 09)
[20:52] <xan_IT> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Seymour [Radeon HD 6400M/7400M Series]
[20:52] <everald> What's the best way to have a local network shared folder on a Ubuntu machine?
[20:55] <jhutchins> RonaldJ: So likely some windows-like box on your network is storming the server.  You might be able to take nmbd down and still work with DNS resolution.  Shut it down and see what breaks - that's where the real culprit is.
[20:58] <xan_IT> second problem: if i try to install propetary video driver, when i boot i see the background but i can login because i can see the object to login, i see only background
[21:00] <jhutchins> xan_IT: https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee http://xpressrazor.wordpress.com/2013/01/13/how-to-setup-amdintel-hybrid-graphics-cards-in-linux-ubuntu/ (ubuntu disclaimer) https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Hybrid_graphics (Arch disclaimer, but a good overview).
[21:02] <xan_IT> i dont wont the swith o other just use best video card, always
[21:04] <jhutchins> xan_IT: The idea is that the intel GPU uses less power, so when you don't need full 3D acceleration use it, but if you want to do gaming or 3D mapping or something use the AMD, which takes more power.
[21:04] <Kalel> Greetings.. Id like to know if Uubntu has any bug about youtube playing videos. I can not watch anything.
[21:04] <jhutchins> xan_IT: The reason they did this is because what's "best" changes depending on what you're doing.
[21:05] <loadid_czech> Kalel: you need to install the flash plugin
[21:05] <RonaldJ> jhutchins thanks
[21:05] <jhutchins> xan_IT: So far it doesn't work terribly well in Linux (and I hear it has problems in Windows as well).
[21:05] <jhutchins> RonaldJ: You can look at tcpdump and maybe see what IP is causing all the traffic.
[21:06] <Kalel> Its already installed the leatest one, loadid_czech . By the way, I like you country.. If so..
[21:06] <jhutchins> We had a site where they finally found that a router at the Golf stand had been rained on and was causing the network storm.
[21:06] <xan_IT> jhutchins yes. i know that the switch is not very well, i just wont to use amd grafic with propetary driver always (pc are always chargin, there is no problem for battery)
[21:06] <jhutchins> The guy was really happy he'd figured out what the problem was.  He plugged it back in and went home to celebrate!
[21:06] <Pessimist> Hello everyone. When I boot up it doesn't _automatically_ find the ubuntu bootloader so I have to go to boot options and pick "ubuntu" there. I am using UEFI with no secure boot. How do you fix this?
[21:07]  * loadid_czech is not slovakian
[21:07] <Rory> Pessimist: You have to set the default boot option in the UEFI menu
[21:07] <jhutchins> Pessimist: grub?
[21:07] <loadid_czech> have you restarted your browser Kalel?
[21:07] <loadid_czech> and perhaps tried in a different browser?
[21:07] <Adie> :/
[21:07] <Adie> HELLO?
[21:07] <jhutchins> xan_IT: Whether you want to swap GPUs or not, the answer to how to use a specific one is in those docs.
[21:08] <Adie> Can you hear me?
[21:08] <Pessimist> jhutchins, yes; Rory, It says that no bootable media has been found and that my netbook will turn off. Btw, my model is hp 4540s
[21:08]  * loadid_czech hollars
[21:08] <jhutchins> Adie: Nope.  Just text on the screen, no sound.
[21:08] <cowbacon> Adie: i can not hear you
[21:08] <Adie> Cool
[21:08] <Adie> just, it was saying "can not send to channel" before
[21:08] <Pessimist> hmz, I'll try this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[21:08] <cowbacon> because you weren't authed probably
[21:08] <Adie> anyways, what do I do to make my wifi work if my wifi.. doesn't work?
[21:09] <Kalel> loadid_czech: Yes. Firefox an Chrome. Both unable to load the videos.. I want to reinstall it otherwise and see what happen..
[21:09] <cowbacon> !wifi | Adie
[21:09] <Adie> :<
[21:09] <jhutchins> Pessimist: You should be able to set the default boot entry for grub in /etc/defaults/grub (run update-grub after changes).
[21:09] <loadid_czech> it's not a bug Kalel, something is configured improperly
[21:09] <Pessimist> jhutchins, my bios doesn't find the boot loader automatically
[21:09] <loadid_czech> where are you? are you behind a firewall that would block youtube content?
[21:10] <jhutchins> Kalel: Do you have flashplayer installed?
[21:10] <Kalel> loadid_czech: I think so.. I will see it again. Thank you.
[21:10] <Kalel> jhutchins: Flashplayer?
[21:10] <Kalel> jhutchins: Yes!
[21:10] <wilee-nilee> Pessimist, this a uefi computer?
[21:10] <Kalel> I am going to to the reinstallation.
[21:11] <Pessimist> wilee-nilee, yes
[21:11] <Kalel> to do..
[21:11] <loadid_czech> kalel, reinstallation of what?
[21:11] <Pessimist> wilee-nilee, default installation, didn't change anything. Previously had archlinux with gummiboot which still has it's boot entry
[21:11] <wilee-nilee> Pessimist, you dual booting or wiped windows?
[21:11] <Kalel> loadid_czech: Flash
[21:11] <Pessimist> wilee-nilee, pure ubuntu
[21:12] <Adie> :<
[21:12] <Adie> my wifi is too new and amazing for ubuntu
[21:12] <mechabit> Greetings
[21:12] <loadid_czech> Kalel: apt-get install flashplugin-downloader
[21:12] <Adie> 2 bad
[21:12] <Kalel> loadid_czech: Actually I have to restart my laptop right now. I'am resolving another problem with my ati driver..
[21:12] <Kalel> loadid_czech: Ok.
[21:13] <Kalel> loadid_czech: Isn't flashplugin-installer ?
[21:13] <wilee-nilee> Pessimist, we have seen some just wipe the hd ie the mbr and make a msdos table and set the bios as legacy and do installs.
[21:13] <loadid_czech> yes Kalel
[21:14] <Kalel> loadid_czech: Ok. Thank you. I have to restart now. Bye bye fellas.
[21:15] <mechabit> I believe I found old instructions on how to create wine prefixes. "wineprefixcreate --prefix ~/.prefix2" gives an error that it doesn't recognize "wineprefixcreate".
[21:25] <skinux> Is /usr/src usually containing kernel source directories?
[21:29] <loadid_czech> yes skinux, i think so
[21:29] <skinux> Good, because it has a few.
[21:31] <energizer1> My 13.04 freezes sometimes when I visit Google Maps. Help?
[21:33] <Rory> energizer1: What browser are you using?
[21:33] <energizer1> chromium
[21:33] <Rory> energizer1: Does it happen in Firefox also?
[21:33] <energizer1> lets find out
[21:35] <energizer1> didnt freeze in firefox this time, but the problem is inconsistent in chromium anyway, so that's not a totally clear finding
[21:36] <rgreen_> hi i have a macbook pro that i have running ubuntu but i would like to switch it to run fedora 18, the problem is i cant seem to get the macbook to allow me to boot from the fedora install cd that i burned, is there another way to overwrite the ubuntu partition while fedora cd is mounted?
[21:37] <gordonjcp> rgreen_: not really, but ask in #fedora about booting on UEFI hardware
[21:37] <rgreen_> ok thanks
[21:37] <wilee-nilee> rgreen fedora has a channel
[21:37] <gordonjcp> rgreen_: you should be able to install it the same way you installed Ubuntu
[21:38] <rgreen_> i know, for some reason i cant boot from cd anymore
[21:38] <gordonjcp> rgreen_: oh, forget booting from CD
[21:38] <gordonjcp> no-one does that any more
[21:38] <gordonjcp> can you even buy CDs?
[21:38] <rgreen_> usb?
[21:38] <gordonjcp> I haven't seen them for years
[21:38] <rgreen_> lol
[21:39] <rgreen_> i should make a bootable usb drive instead?
[21:40] <energizer3> Ok i tried again -- crashed in firefox too
[21:40] <energizer3> Anytime i scroll around very-zoomed in Google Maps (chromium or ff), ubuntu crashes
[21:42] <systemd0wn> I'm looking for a new Ubuntu compatible laptop. Does anyone know how accurate the certified hardware list is?
[21:42] <Therion87> Ubuntus site has one I blieve
[21:42] <Therion87> And System76 is an Ubuntu Laptop vendor
[21:43] <systemd0wn> Ya. I doubt I'll be purchasing a laptop with Ubuntu pre-loaded most of those are more expensive than I would like to pay.
[21:43] <Therion87> http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/
[21:43] <gordonjcp> systemd0wn: just buy a second-hand macbook ;-)
[21:43] <systemd0wn> I saw that. Does that mean all the hardware works 100%?
[21:43] <systemd0wn> gordonjcp: psh! macbook!
[21:44] <gordonjcp> systemd0wn: <shrug>
[21:44] <systemd0wn> haha
[21:44] <gordonjcp> systemd0wn: I have no complaints about mine
[21:44] <gordonjcp> systemd0wn: I needed to buy a new battery, that cost me nearly 40 quid
[21:44] <gordonjcp> buy cheap, buy twice
[21:44] <Ari-Yang> gordonjcp, https://www.system76.com/laptops/model/galu1
[21:44] <systemd0wn> Neither does my best friend but I won't do it :) I ditched my iPhone too.
[21:45] <gordonjcp> Ari-Yang: don't like 'em, they feel cheap and flimsy
[21:45] <Gye> I AM Moe
[21:46] <systemd0wn> I haven't had my hands on one.
[21:46] <Therion87> I have a Gazelle I lov eit
[21:46] <Gye> You are a badguy
[21:47] <Therion87> I've messed with the Galago at the OLF
[21:47] <Therion87> It's pretty sturdy
[21:47] <Gye> Therion87 is a dud
[21:47] <hellyeah> good night
[21:47] <Therion87> ?
[21:48] <Gye> ya you are
[21:49] <Therion87> Troll somewhere else bro
[21:49] <systemd0wn> I would just like to have a laptop where everything just works with Ubuntu. lol. I guess I should consider buying a pre-loaded laptop but they are more expensive.
[21:49] <Gye> NO!
[21:49] <Therion87> Lenovos have good support histroically
[21:49] <Therion87> Dell and HP both work well
[21:49] <Gye> I won`t troll somewhere else
[21:50] <Therion87> Just check hardware frist and stay away from Broadcom cards
[21:50] <Ari-Yang> !offtopic | Gye
[21:50] <Gye> ubottu is a bot!!!
[21:50] <Ari-Yang> systemd0wn, I recommend a laptop with nVidia... whatever laptop you get, just make sure that whatever card it has is compatible
[21:51] <systemd0wn> ya... My laptop that finally died had a lot of problems with the mainstream kernels. Lots of random lockups and crashes.
[21:51] <Therion87> You gotta be careful with laptops and nVdia
[21:51] <Therion87> Opitmus can be a pain
[21:52] <Gye> i dont care if you are sad or not ubottu you need to get hit with a pellet gun.
[21:52] <Therion87> And without it battery life is crapola
[21:52] <Ari-Yang> systemd0wn, I'm using kernel 3.11 and have no problem...
[21:53] <systemd0wn> Good to know.
[21:53] <systemd0wn> what are you guys running?
[21:53] <Therion87> 13.04 kernel 3.11.1
[21:53] <Therion87> With varies performance tweaks
[21:53] <Ari-Yang> OS: Linux 3.11.0-996-generic/x86_64 - Distro: Ubuntu 12.10
[21:54] <jhutchins> Linux for Workgroups!
[21:54] <Ari-Yang> systemd0wn, the reason why I'm using 3.11 is because of DPM (dynamic power management) for the radeon driver
[21:54] <Ari-Yang> laptop doesn't overheat anymore.
[21:55] <systemd0wn> right.
[21:56] <kriskropd> Does anyone here know how to add options and arguments to mplayer in apps.py for ranger file manager? I want to open files with 'mplayer -ass -vf screenshot -osdlevel 3 -capture'
[21:56] <Ari-Yang> kriskropd, ask in #mplayer
[21:57] <kriskropd> its acutally a questiona bout ranger, not mplayer, and I hav better chances here, so I'm just asking
[21:57] <kriskropd> actually* about*
[21:57] <Ari-Yang> kriskropd, isn't ranger file manager arch?
[21:58] <systemd0wn> has anyone had luck with the dell ubuntu laptops?
[21:58] <kriskropd> Ari-Yang: lol no, its in ubuntu repos
[21:59] <Gye> Goatman you aregooey
[21:59] <Ari-Yang> systemd0wn, this laptop I'm using is dell.... and personally I would advise not to get a dell laptop :s if you are, just make sure it's a GOOD dell laptop
[21:59] <ANN-TechCoder> Hello guys, Can anyone plese advise? Ubuntu (Unity) does not save Window sizes and position. Can't find anything in Google
[22:01] <systemd0wn> Ari-Yang: I've always had pretty good luck with them. Used them for work and personal... Just mixed result with ubuntu hardware compatibility I guess.
[22:01] <wilee-nilee> systemd0wn, We can try to help if you describe the problem, it is not a canonical release however.
[22:02] <systemd0wn> wilee-nilee: Heh? I'm just looking for a new laptop is all.
[22:02] <iceroot> where are the cronscripts from "crontab -e" stored? so the user-specific crons
[22:03] <wilee-nilee> systemd0wn, Ah, you asked the question earlier on certified right?
[22:03] <systemd0wn> ya
[22:06] <wilee-nilee> systemd0wn, I would focus on the hardware if you are worried, we rarely see someone here with a computer that does not work, I can't remember any.
[22:06] <darkkblack> ~~~ having trouble with password and keyboad when installing, help please! ~~~
[22:07] <wilee-nilee> darkkblack, laptop or desktop?
[22:07] <systemd0wn> wilee-nilee: My Dell Studio 1569 has a lot of kernel issues. As reported..
[22:07] <wilee-nilee> systemd0wn, By who?
[22:07] <darkkblack> wilee-nilee, ty for replying, laptop
[22:08] <wilee-nilee> darkkblack, Keyboard not work at all, you have very little details here.
[22:08] <systemd0wn> wilee-nilee: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1011914
[22:09] <AcidRain2012> will someone tell me the ops name in #perl
[22:09] <seanz> Greetings. Is there an easy way to use tasksel to see if a task is enabled?
[22:10] <darkkblack> wilee-nilee, keyboard will work(doesnt work at all on occasion)I can get through the install, up to the point of account creation. I can click one letter in the account name box and it spams 100 keystrokes and keyboard stops working
[22:11] <darkkblack> wilee-nilee, its happened 3 times now, 2 times with direct install, and once running ubuntu live and creating account before trying to install
[22:12] <wilee-nilee> darkkblack, You have an external to plug in, does it do this in other apps in this environment, have you checked the iso'd sum
[22:12] <AcidRain2012> will someone tell me the ops name in #perl
[22:12] <mechabit> Is there an #ubuntu-offtopic channel
[22:12] <wilee-nilee> mechabit, yes and that is the name of it
[22:13] <mechabit> wilee-nilee, just checking lol. Thanks.
[22:13] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[22:13] <mechabit> wilee-nilee, sometimes people ninja channels
[22:14] <darkkblack> wilee-nilee, external to plug in? other apps seem to work fine only tried a couple with ubuntu live a few minutes ago, and the iso'd sum is okay I believe cause I am using this ubuntu install on 2nd laptop and all is working for me
[22:14] <darkkblack> wilee-nilee, same iso burned usb drive for both installs*
[22:15] <wilee-nilee> darkkblack, Have you checked askubuntu with this computer model or the web for similar problems.
[22:15] <darkkblack> wilee-nilee, no this is the first place I started, am currently setting up registration for ubuntu forum though
[22:16] <wilee-nilee> darkkblack, Good idea good place, I'm not sure what is going on myself, I would check the web first if I ran into this, not that here is bad.
[22:16] <fabio> If I have full-disk encryption enabled (done through the Xubuntu installer), can its passphrase be changed? [I haven't forgotten it; just curious]
[22:17] <darkkblack> wilee-nilee, really not sure how to word my problem for a google search, lol
[22:19] <wilee-nilee> darkkblack, simpler the better to start, model and ubuntu or the release # askubuntu same or just the model to start with.
[22:19] <wilee-nilee> maybe add keyboard
[22:21] <sixcorners> my ubuntu keeps crashing..
[22:22] <juki> with that much information i can narrow it down to one of two things sixcorners
[22:22] <systemd0wn> Does anyone have a laptop with a touch screen running ubuntu? Anyone know how well ubuntu handles that?
[22:24] <juki> systemd0wn: throw in a liveusb and try it out
[22:25] <sixcorners> I've given you 100% of the information it's given me.
[22:25] <systemd0wn> lol. I'm buying a new laptop. I don't currently have a touch screen.
[22:25] <wilee-nilee> systemd0wn, For the record this is support, not polling, for problems in reality.
[22:25] <juki> well sixcorners, then i would say it's either operator error or an OS issue
[22:27] <sixcorners> Is there a place I can start with the diagnosis?
[22:28] <SmartAss> hello, is there any puppy linux channel aroun
[22:28] <sixcorners> there is a #puppylinux channel
[22:29] <SmartAss> thank
[22:29] <juki> sixcorners: you could start by saying something like.  when i boot, it gets to the login screen and then the screen goes black
[22:29] <juki> or maybe, i see grub load, and when i select an option it gets stuck at the ubuntu splash screen
[22:29] <EMPHASIS_> what's a good weather app for show showing 1/2 dozen cities at same time?
[22:30] <sixcorners> I do various things. It crashes. It seems to crash at the start of one of those fancy animations.
[22:30] <juki> try disabeling desktop effects sixcorners
[22:35] <jkbbwr> Any idea what echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_tw_reuse does
[22:35] <jkbbwr> and if it has any side effects?
[22:36] <juki> jk, it will write a 1 into the file /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_tw_reuse
[22:36] <upd> yes it does has effects
[22:36] <oriez> someone familiar with the launcher bar overlay on video fullscreen on dual screen?
[22:36] <oriez> some sort of a bug?
[22:37] <jkbbwr> upd: what kinid of side effects?
[22:37] <jkbbwr> upd: bad ones?
[22:38] <juki> to be one for symantics, it would be a side effect, it would be a direct effect
[22:38] <juki> would not* be a side effect
[22:38] <jkbbwr> okay what negitive effects could it have
[22:39] <juki> first jkbbwr, open a text editor and open the file /proc/sys/net/ipv4/tcp_tw_reuse and see what's in there
[22:40] <sixcorners> check man 7 tcp for tcp_tw_reuse
[22:40] <upd> jkbbwr, depends what you want when tcp connection is closed there is some time to wait, but setting this will imediattely reuse the same socket so this can mess up tcp handshake
[22:41] <jkbbwr> well im kinda using up all my sockets...
[22:41] <upd> 65536 ?
[22:41] <juki> using up all your sockets?
[22:41] <jkbbwr> Yes
[22:42] <juki> i don't understand
[22:42] <upd> well i would try to decrease time_wait if there is an option
[22:43] <guest__> Hello!  I installed KDE4 in Ubuntu 12.04 and KDE4 is using its own login screen in Ubuntu 12.04.  How do I change back to the default login?
[22:44] <hdon> guys. 12.04 here. my gvfs_metadata process has been going for three days, keeping on of my CPU cores in iowait and writing to my disk constantly. it's not really a nuisance, but what is going on?
[22:44] <upd> jkbbwr, if you are using mysql you can set smaller time, so socket will be free faster, but be aware of packet loss
[22:44] <Obi1> can any1 see my posts ?
[22:44] <daftykins> what posts?
[22:44] <hdon> that was weird... i thought i saw someone named "Obi" but then i guess i imagined it
[22:45] <guest__> 0bi1 - what posts are you referring to?
[22:45] <juki> guest__: it's difficult to use the gnome login and kde... or are you saying you want to switch back to gnome and disregard kde?
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[22:45] <guest__> juki - yes.
[22:45] <juki> guest__: do you have a file /etc/X11/default-display-manager
[22:46] <Bruce_> If "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:..." adds a repository, how do I remove it?
[22:46] <Obi1> i try on Linux  chat but i was geting  Cannot send to channel: ##linux
[22:46] <juki> Bruce_: look at the bottom of the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[22:46] <guest__> juki - give me a second.  I will see if it exists...
[22:47] <Bruce_> juki: I don't have a file.
[22:47] <juki> check again bruce
[22:47] <Bruce_> juki: where might I find this?
[22:48] <juki> Bruce_: open a text editor and open the sources.list filie in the /etc/apt folder
[22:48] <FinnTheMew> Go to "Software Sources" in the update window
[22:48] <loki_> hello, can i change package sources from 10.10 to 10.04 for server?
[22:48] <mediawork> hi
[22:49] <jrib> loa: why do you want to do that?
[22:49] <mediawork> I just lost a couple of directories on my desktop,
[22:49] <sixcorners> hdon: check man gvfs
[22:49] <hdon> sixcorners, thanks i didn't think of that
[22:49] <mediawork> I had trouble mounting the filesystem yesterday, no appernt reason
[22:49] <hdon> err... that sounded sarcastic sixcorners but it wasn't meant that way
[22:49] <sixcorners> it's fine
[22:49] <mediawork> I asked ubuntu to try to repair the problem
[22:49] <bl4ckdu5t> Is there a package in the apt that I can use to download GTK+ and all its dependencies
[22:50] <mediawork> and it kinda did, but a couple of directories I had been using the day before were gone
[22:50] <bl4ckdu5t> I feel it's stressful following the steps on GTK websites
[22:50] <loa> jrib, becouse 10.10 is now trash, it don't supported
[22:50] <hdon> sixcorners, could you dpkg -L that man file? i don't have it installed it seems
[22:50] <hdon> sorry dpkg -S
[22:50] <bl4ckdu5t> * -s
[22:50] <loa> but i need install some packages
[22:50] <jrib> loa: upgrade to 12.04
[22:50] <loa> jrib, ^^
[22:50] <Obi1> i need a IP blocker any1 have idea what is he best one
[22:50] <mediawork> also I know find... some strange files in my root,   /initrd.img and vmlinuz... in my root?!?
[22:50] <loa> jrib, i don't think it will go smooth
[22:50] <jrib> Obi1: you want to know how to use the firewall?
[22:50] <jrib> loa: you have backups.
[22:50] <juki> mediawork: that is your kernel
[22:50] <Obi1> not on Linux
[22:50] <loa> jrib, only www and database
[22:51] <loa> but i don't want update or reinstall)
[22:51] <juki> those files are supposed to be there, if you delete them, stuffz won't workz
[22:51] <loa> i just want install few apps)
[22:51] <hdon> loa, you really should update :\ it's not hard
[22:51] <mediawork> juki,  I thought the kernel is under /booty
[22:51] <jrib> loa: that leaves you with one option: stay on an  unsupported release (I do not suggest this)
[22:51] <mediawork> juki,  I thought the kernel is under /boot
[22:51] <mediawork> juki,  not under /
[22:51] <loa> =/
[22:52] <loa> and there no way to install apps for 10.10?
[22:52] <loa> they are all deleted?
[22:52] <mediawork> but anyway, it seems those files were generated more than a week ago
[22:52] <juki> those two files are necessary, maybe they hand off the root drive to the kernel or something
[22:52] <mediawork> so thats not it.
[22:52] <jrib> loa: upgrade to a supported release.
[22:52] <jrib> loa: why are you even contemplating staying on an unsupported release?
[22:52] <zerick>  which is the equivalent or similar tool for MS Project ?
[22:52] <juki> you can delete them to see if they are necessary or not mediawork, and then let us know when you get your OS reinstalled because it won't boot anymore
[22:52] <sixcorners> hdon it says it's used by nautilus.. http://manned.org/gvfsd-metadata.1
[22:53] <mediawork> juki, thanks
[22:53] <guest__> juki - yes, /etc/X11/default-display-manager exists.  What should I do?
[22:53] <jrib> !eolupgrade | loa
[22:53] <mediawork> juki,  ok those symbolic links it seems
[22:53] <upd> zerick, planner
[22:53] <mediawork> juki, not the problem...
[22:53] <juki> what does the line in there say guest__?
[22:53] <hdon> sixcorners, weird.. i do have that installed. i'm on 12.04 though
[22:53] <mediawork> juki, somehow ubuntu 13 with ext4 lost my files, really hasnt happended to me before..
[22:54] <hdon> mediawork, :o
[22:54] <guest__> juki - /usr//bin/kdm
[22:54] <hdon> mediawork, could you elaborate?
[22:54] <juki> change kdm to gdm and save guest__, that will put you back in gnome
[22:54] <hdon> fwiw having broken symbolic links does not mean files got lost
[22:54] <upd> zerick, also check openproj
[22:54] <mediawork> hdon,   ok so I was working on rendering some files... the other day,  loads of images stored in a folder, maybe about ehm. few gigs.
[22:55] <mediawork> hdon, I then turned off my computer successfully yesterday morning
[22:55] <sixcorners> hdon: how big is ~/.local/share/gvfs-metadata
[22:55] <mediawork> hdon,  then I start my computer in the evening
[22:55] <juki> when you reboot guest__ it should put you back in gnome assuming you didn't uninstall gdm when you installed kde
[22:55] <sixcorners> I'm reading from http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1421580
[22:55] <hdon> mediawork, fwiw if you have very large files you may want to use another fs. i've found jfs (this was years ago though, as compared to ext3) and jfs was much better performance.
[22:55] <mediawork> hdon,   it has problems booting,  and asks if it should repair the problem...
[22:55] <mediawork> hdon,  I ask ubuntu to repair
[22:55] <mediawork> "try to fix " I think it said
[22:55] <juki> mediawork: what did you do that you think lost your files?
[22:56] <mediawork> hdon, juki ,  I think after I allowed ubuntu boot process to fix the file registry,  the folders I had been working in lately were completely lost
[22:56] <loa> jrib, so there no up repositories for 10.10?
[22:56] <juki> registry? what are we workgroup for linux 3.11?
[22:57] <guest__> I don't think so.  How do I check if gdm was not deleted?  I downloaded and installed the FULL KDE desktop environment package.
[22:57] <loa> and i 100% need to upgrade to install something new?
[22:57] <mediawork> hdon, juki,  but no warning or message from the boot process that this was the risk
[22:57] <hdon> sixcorners, pretty small... http://pastebin.mozilla.org/3099180
[22:57] <jrib> loa: there are.  They are there to allow you to upgrade to the next release (until you get to a supported release).  Ubottu's link tells you about them
[22:57] <jrib> loa: you need to upgrade to get on a supported release.  You aren't receiving security updates.
[22:58] <hdon> mediawork, were they all in the same directory?
[22:58] <loa> jrib, ok, i will read, thank you.
[22:58] <mediawork> hdon, juki ,  well I dont know what it was fixing... it would you like to have ubuntu try to fix the problem...
[22:58] <mediawork> hdon, yes
[22:58] <mediawork> hdon, same directory and subdirectories
[22:58] <hdon> mediawork, is the directory empty? what is the full path to the directory?
[22:58] <juki> can you give us any more info on what it was attempting to fix, "the registry" doesn't sound correct... and when in the boot process did it ask that?
[22:59] <mediawork> hdon,   /home/mediawork/Desktop/Scenes1Jul13/
[22:59] <hdon> mediawork, can you share the output of the command "df path/to/the/directory"
[22:59] <hdon> mediawork, do you have an encrypted home directory?
[22:59] <mediawork> juki,  when attempting to mount the /home device I seem to recall
[22:59] <yhwh> holy twitter! is it possible to change the background color in smuxi? i'm blinded by the whiteness of this white!!
[22:59] <juki> maybe fstab got borked?
[23:00] <mediawork> hdon,  I do not
[23:00] <hdon> mediawork, are other files in your home directory unharmed?
[23:00] <hdon> mediawork, please share the output of df  /home/mediawork/Desktop/Scenes1Jul13/ and mount commands
[23:00] <mediawork> hdon,  Im not quite sure yet, but other directories did go.. such as   ~/.blender/
[23:00] <mediawork> ?
[23:00] <mediawork> ok I will run the command
[23:01] <juki> possible hardware failure
[23:01] <hdon> mediawork, did your desktop environment look at all different when you logged in? (also which version of ubuntu are you using?)
[23:01] <mediawork> hdon,  no not different except for missing folders.
[23:02] <mediawork> hdon, using 13.04.. unless I updated. not sure
[23:02] <juki> i've also seen those errors when recloning a partition, things get confused.. doesn't sound like he would be recloning a partition image though
[23:02] <juki> hdon: post the output?
[23:02] <hdon> mediawork, your situation doesn't sound completely unlike failing to mount an encrypted home directory, however there are some extra things that are not necessarily a part of such experience
[23:02] <hdon> juki, did you mean mediawork?
[23:02] <juki> yes i did
[23:03] <mediawork> yes wait what was the command
[23:03] <mediawork> df
[23:03] <juki> mount
[23:03] <hdon> mediawork, df  /home/mediawork/Desktop/Scenes1Jul13/ ; mount commands
[23:03] <juki> and df /home/username
[23:03] <mediawork> hdon, juki :   No such file or directory
[23:04] <hdon> mediawork, ah, of course, this directory is the one that is missing
[23:04] <mediawork> Filesystem     1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
[23:04] <mediawork> /dev/sda5      814233696 623062432 149803868  81% /home
[23:04] <hdon> mediawork, how did you recall the path exactly? from memory?
[23:04] <loa> jrib, i little in fear that i will not can reboot after update (
[23:04] <mediawork> above is for the /home/mediawork/
[23:04] <loa> of wrong settings for network (
[23:04] <Console> Just a general question out there, which IRC clients do you usually use on ubuntu? I'm on XChat right now and it seems as it's not being updated at all
[23:04] <loa> there no just method to replace my repos with working one?
[23:04] <hdon> juki, is his output from df /home/mediawork what you would get if the encrypted home hadn't been mounted?
[23:05] <juki> mediawork: "mount /dev/sda5 /mnt && ls /mnt" and share the output
[23:05] <jrib> loa: this is why you have backups.  Worst case scenario, you can do a fresh install of 12.04.  In fact a fresh install will likely be much easier and faster than upgrading
[23:05] <hdon> it seems like it would be
[23:05] <hdon> mediawork, you may want to use http://pastebin.mozilla.org/ to share large amounts of information
[23:05] <hdon> as in more than one line of information
[23:05] <loa> jrib, it is so good to do something with working installation (
[23:06] <mediawork> [sudo] password for mediawork:
[23:06] <mediawork> guest  hrob  hrobjartur  hrobt  hroi  ht  jwh  lost+found  mediawork  vfxwork
[23:06] <juki> "ls /mnt/mediawork/Desktop" mediawork
[23:06] <hdon> juki, the df command showed it wasn't in there. it is mounted already to /home right?
[23:07] <mediawork> mediawork@ht-desktop:~$ ls /mnt/mediawork/Desktop/
[23:07] <mediawork> Basket                  HDR_IBL_Demo.png     test2.png
[23:07] <mediawork> BitvinciShort10minTuts  reflectionbump.png   test3.png
[23:07] <mediawork> Footage18Aug13          Scenes1Jul13_v1.zip  test.png
[23:07] <mediawork> Footage1Jul13           Scenes1Jul13_v2.zip  Untitled Folder
[23:07] <FloodBot1> mediawork: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:07] <mediawork> FootageAnalysis         test1.ogv
[23:07] <hdon> mediawork, please use paste.ubuntu.com to share long information
[23:07] <mediawork> ok
[23:07] <juki> my bad, I see now
[23:07] <juki> thought maybe it wasn't mounted correctly
[23:08] <juki> still missing things from the Desktop folder mediawork?
[23:08] <mediawork> yes, this mount looks the same
[23:08] <hdon> mediawork, you can umount /mnt
[23:08] <juki> ok, umount /mnt"
[23:08] <mediawork> juki,  interestingly one of the folders also missing from the Desktop  was a network shared folder called  Share
[23:08] <mediawork> not sure if that is relevant
[23:09] <Siecje> If audio is playing and I press alt+tab the sound skips
[23:09] <hdon> mediawork, you mean a directory that you shared on the network with samba?
[23:09] <juki> nothing unexpectedly showed up in the lost+found folder did it?
[23:09] <hdon> Siecje, could you tell us about your cpu? cat /proc/cpuinfo if you don't know
[23:09] <mediawork> hdon,  yes, I believe it was samba .
[23:10] <mediawork> hdon,  I kinda just followed the instructions when right clicking and setting up share on the folder
[23:10] <hdon> can a samba client remove a directory being shared?
[23:10] <mediawork> hdon,  Im using gnome shell
[23:10] <juki> could if it had rw access i think
[23:11] <hdon> mediawork, *nod*
[23:11] <Siecje> hdon: https://dpaste.de/a1KAd/
[23:11] <mediawork> hdon, juki,  are there any old boot logs somewhere ?
[23:12] <mediawork> hdon, juki under var log perhaps.
[23:12] <mediawork> ?
[23:12] <juki> var/log
[23:12] <hdon> Siecje, well that shouldn't be the problem. you may want to try the indicator-multiload package to get a clearer picture of resource utilization when this occurs, which may help narrow down the problem
[23:12] <juki>  dmesg maybe?
[23:13] <hdon> mediawork, you may want to ask about filesystem diagnostics in #linux
[23:13] <hdon> someone might know how to access journaling info for ext4 iiuc
[23:13] <hdon> please share your results with us :)
[23:13] <hdon> one last thing though mediawork
[23:13] <sixcorners> juke: I guess there was no xorg.conf.. ran nvidia-xconfig.. rebooted.. and am now waiting for a crash.. hasn't happened yet
[23:13] <hdon> i noticed a zip file that had the same name as your directory
[23:14] <hdon> is it possible you ran a command or used a program that turned your directory into the zip file and removed the directory?
[23:14] <mediawork> hdon,  that is an old backup of the directory :S
[23:14] <juki> sixcorners: xorg.conf isn't really used anymore unless you make one
[23:14] <x3maniac> hi is there any drivers i need to install to get a usb2.0 port to run a usb 3.0 hub?
[23:14] <hdon> sixcorners, the new x config ways are a mystery to me as well
[23:14] <mediawork> hdon, it was created 1. august :)
[23:14] <mediawork> so no not possible
[23:14] <hdon> mediawork, ah ok, just a thought :)
[23:14] <sixcorners> juke: well.. then I hope the one I just generated is better then the one it didn't use before..
[23:15] <sixcorners> thanks for the help and stuff
[23:15] <sixcorners> oops.. meant to type juki..
[23:15] <mediawork> under /var/log/upstart/  there are many logs... do these have to do with the boot process?
[23:15] <juki> i saw it, any xorg.conf will override the default settings.. if you created one and things are working... good stuff sixcorners
[23:15] <guest__> I'm using Ubuntu 12.04 and have KDE4 installed.   How do I change back to the Gnome/Unity login screen?
[23:16] <mediawork> juki, hdon,   btw.  is my filesystem encrypted?
[23:16] <juki> sixcorners: you can probably use the tab key to auto-complete user names in case you didn't know
[23:16] <hdon> mediawork, almost certainly not
[23:16] <juki> haha
[23:16] <hdon> not by accident
[23:16] <hdon> since it's /home
[23:16] <mediawork> good
[23:16] <sixcorners> juki: it's such a small and easy to type name though
[23:16] <juki> the installer asks if you want to encrypt the home directory, sounds enticing when you install and maybe he forgot?
[23:16] <Siecje> I'm having issues with Skype crashing on Ubuntu 12.04
[23:16] <Siecje> 13.04*
[23:17] <mediawork> juki,  I recall I did not ask for the encryption option
[23:17] <juki> Siecje: start skype from a terminal window and see if it tells you anything useful when it crashes
[23:17] <juki> okay mediawork, good to know
[23:18] <fission6> how do i add $(__git_ps1) to my prompt
[23:18] <guest__> juki - I went into /usr/etc/x11/default-display-manager and changed the line from /usr/bin/kdm to say /usr/bin/gdm.  Logged out and the KDE4 login screen still appears.
[23:18] <hdon> mediawork, jsut to be share, pleas share the output of this command: find /home/.ecryptfs
[23:18] <juki> Siecje: has it ever worked correctly? do you remember changing anything since it's started crashing?
[23:19] <juki> guest__: you need admin rights to save the file... are you sure that the change took?
[23:19] <mediawork> hdon,  find: `/home/.ecryptfs': No such file or directory
[23:19] <Siecje> juki: I have installed thing but that's about it
[23:19] <hdon> mediawork, ok, no encrypted filesystems :)
[23:19] <mediawork> hdon,  there are so many logs under var log, I dont know where to start... can I grep out something?
[23:19] <juki> so you're saying it has worked previously Siecje? what did you install?
[23:19] <hdon> mediawork, i'd ask in #linux
[23:19] <mediawork> hdon,   maybe grep repair?
[23:19] <mediawork> ok
[23:20] <hdon> mediawork, tell them you might have encountered an ext4 failure. lost directories.
[23:21] <guest__> juki - In the terminal I typed "sudo gedit /etc/default-display-manager".  I changed the line at the end to gdm and saved the file.  Logged out and the KDE4 login screen still appears.
[23:22] <juki> guest__: somewhere in the login screen there is a dropdown/button to click on that askes which display manager to use, choose gdm instead of kdm.. or maybe you need a "sudo restart gdm"
[23:22] <cruzader> anyone knows how to work around the facebook bug in empathy?
[23:25] <guest__> juki - I typed "sudo restart gdm" and typed in my password.  The terminal responds with restart: Unknown job: gdm.
[23:32] <juki> ohh, maybe it's "sure restart lightdm"
[23:32] <juki> sudo restart lightdm
[23:32] <darkkblack> anyone available for advice about ubuntu install?
[23:33] <hdon> darkkblack, what do you want to know?
[23:33] <hdon> loadid_czech, "sure restart lightdm" lol :P
[23:34] <darkkblack> having a problem with keyboard freeze up during installation at the account setup/password screen
[23:34] <darkkblack> wonder if there is a way to create an account with the terminal
[23:34] <loadid_czech> broken leg meds feel nicely
[23:34] <loadid_czech> wait.. whutdaafk?
[23:35] <loadid_czech> darkkblack: adduser
[23:35] <darkkblack> aiight loadid_czech ima google that real quick
[23:37] <dougiel> how do I disable my 13.04 from needing my wallet password all the time?
[23:37] <dougiel> if I am logged in I just want to have access to the wallet.
[23:38] <loadid_czech> you can set a time limit on it dougiel
[23:41] <dougiel> thank you loadid_czech - it's not that it keeps asking me during my sessions as much as I need 2 passwords to fire up the machine... one to log in and one for the wallet - I don't even like punching in a password once let alone twice.
[23:46] <loadid_czech> you could disable the wallet dougiel
[23:46] <loadid_czech> and you can autologin too dougiel
[23:49] <Dr_ST> hi folks
[23:50] <Dr_ST> just a short question about apparmor, anyone knows if I can prevent a script to output its content to a file using apparmor ?
[23:54] <dougiel> loadid_czech, if I disable the wallet will I be able to re enable it and not lose any of the saved data... the wallet is what remembers all my passwords for sites and networks right?
[23:55] <loadid_czech> not sure about the losing data, I don't imagine it would erase anything by disabling it but i'm not 100% on that... yes, I think it does remember passwords for you
[23:55] <loadid_czech> I don't use the wallet, I just know how to disable it
[23:55] <Console> hahaha
[23:56] <dougiel> loadid_czech, thank you for your help... I will disable it and play around with it... remind me tomorrow to let you know what I learned (cannot reboot at the moment)
[23:57] <loadid_czech> sadly, my linux wallet stays empty... strangly resembles IRL
[23:57] <dougiel> LOL
[23:57] <dougiel> I have the same problem.
[23:59] <ggherdov> hello. a "debian package" and a "ubuntu package" are exactly the same thing, correct?
[23:59] <ggherdov> I mean: if I want to write a package for ubuntu I'll find all the info in debian tutorials ?