[08:33] <smartboyhw> JackYu, congratulations:)\
[08:34] <JackYu> smartboyhw, thanks:)
[08:34] <JackYu> smartboyhw, 中秋节快乐～
[11:21] <smartboyhw> JackYu, BTW, so we have to re-apply for membership? Did you talk to the Ubuntu Community Council about being a official Ubuntu Council?
[11:36] <JackYu> smartboyhw, the membership is two years. After that, should we re-apply or just update?
[11:37] <smartboyhw> JackYu, technically, mmembership is renewed by the member itself via Launchpad
[11:37] <JackYu> smartboyhw, yep, I think so:)
[11:37] <smartboyhw> But if you are seriously making yourselves a Council with members under it, you should contact CC to become a full Ubuntu Council having Ubuntu Membership approval rights
[11:39] <JackYu> smartboyhw, I think there should be a period between being a member and a Council?
[11:39] <smartboyhw> JackYu, oh come on, I want to type faster-.-
[11:40] <JackYu> :)
[11:40] <smartboyhw> Do talk to the CC, they will be happy.
[11:41] <smartboyhw> You can contact via e-mail
[11:41] <smartboyhw> (Meetings are bi-weekly, but at 1:00 AM Beijing time0.0)
[11:41] <JackYu> you mean I can apply for Ubuntu Community Council directly?
[11:41] <smartboyhw> JackYu, you can ask the Ubuntu Community Council to relegate Ubuntu Membership approval rights
[11:41] <JackYu> OK. Seems interesting:).
[11:41] <smartboyhw> So, every UbuntuKylin Member will be a Ubuntu Member
[11:42] <smartboyhw> (Of course, if that happens you need to kick everyone in the current team)
[11:42] <JackYu> Yes, I'm going to do that.
[11:42] <smartboyhw> Should I quit for easier work on you? ;)
[11:43] <JackYu> Did you receive the email I sent to UbuntuKylin Members?
[11:44] <JackYu> smartboyhw, of course not:)
[11:44] <smartboyhw> JackYu, yes I did
[11:44] <JackYu> smartboyhw, You are a UbuntuKylin contributor:)
[11:45] <smartboyhw> JackYu, I will be more busy in Beta 2 and RC, I'm temporaily taking over Phill Whiteside's job of Lubuntu Release Manager (since he made a fuss at the Ubuntu Release Team and he quit accordingly)
[11:46] <JackYu> smartboyhw, I saw that:(.
[11:47] <JackYu> smartboyhw, we will talk to CC after 13.10 released and all of current UbuntuKylin members should start to re-apply:)
[11:48] <smartboyhw> JackYu, sure
[12:03] <JackYu> hapyyaron, ping.
[13:30] <happyaron> JackYu: pong
[13:33] <JackYu> happyaron, feature freeze的时间是下周一？
[13:33] <happyaron> JackYu: feature freeze早就过了啊
[13:33] <JackYu> 我是说Beta Final的。。。
[13:34] <JackYu> happyaron, beta freeze
[13:34] <happyaron> 我看下
[13:34] <smartboyhw> JackYu, Beta freeze is next Monday
[13:34] <JackYu> good:)
[13:34] <smartboyhw> Now we are in UIFreeze + DocStringFreeze
[13:34] <smartboyhw> JackYu, so only bugfixes, plz.
[13:35] <happyaron> 对，刚刚过的是UI freeze
[13:35] <smartboyhw> (Or rather, features that don't involve UI or DocString changes will be great:P)
[13:35] <happyaron> 所以ubuntukylin-theme传得比较及时
[13:35] <happyaron> JackYu: 主要是等qimpanel了，这个我还没权限传
[13:35] <JackYu> smartboyhw, sure:)
[13:36] <happyaron> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseSchedule
[13:39] <JackYu> happyaron, 是啊，我一直在等着。好像barry，dholbash，seb128都不在。这次真是奇怪了:)
[13:39] <smartboyhw> JackYu, hah? dholbach managed to upload some packages for Xubuntu and Ubuntu Studio this afternoon
[13:39] <smartboyhw> That means your ability to find sponsors suck:P
[13:40] <JackYu> 看到了，在ubuntu-devel
[13:40] <happyaron> JackYu: steve 也没理你？
[13:41] <JackYu> happyaron, 是的，没看到回复:(
[13:41] <happyaron> 比较悲剧的是这几天貌似都没patch pilots
[13:42]  * smartboyhw saw at least two the past three days
[13:42] <JackYu> smartboyhw, 今天是谁？
[13:43] <happyaron> 现在没有
[13:43] <smartboyhw> JackYu, today dunno
[13:43] <happyaron> 看 -devel 的 /topic
[13:43] <smartboyhw> There is a calendar
[13:44] <JackYu> OK.
[13:44] <JackYu> 好像/topic上没有写patch pilots
[13:45] <JackYu> smartboyhw, where is the calendar?
[13:45] <smartboyhw> JackYu, searching
[13:46] <smartboyhw> https://www.google.com/calendar/embed?src=6k1e5rq45m1bdqq0n1ge3oqaok@group.calendar.google.com&gsessionid=OK
[13:46] <smartboyhw> Today it's barry + robert_ancell
[13:47] <JackYu> got it. robert在。
[13:49]  * smartboyhw thinks it's ridiculous that there are 5 patch pilots the day before yesterday-.-
[13:49] <smartboyhw> Some days only have one
[13:49] <smartboyhw> JackYu, for some nice jokes today, see https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gcc-4.8/4.8.1-10ubuntu3/+build/4979394 (for it's build scores and building time0
[13:53] <happyaron> smartboyhw: I think it's normal
[13:53] <smartboyhw> happyaron, not the 99999999 build score;0
[13:53] <happyaron> then what?
[13:54] <smartboyhw> And for reference, armhf itself took only 7 hours.
[13:54] <JackYu> 99999999 是最大值？
[13:54] <happyaron> smartboyhw: it's using simulator, with very low efficiency
[13:54] <smartboyhw> JackYu, normally, you just can't get that
[13:55] <happyaron> smartboyhw: arm64 is not so fast by design, and a simulator may have no more than 1/10 efficiency.
[13:55] <happyaron> maybe 1/100 sometimes.
[13:56] <smartboyhw> Stupid simulators-.-
[13:56] <happyaron> :)
[14:06] <smartboyhw> happyaron, JackYu holy **** http://www.hko.gov.hk/wxinfo/currwx/tc_gis_e.htm
[14:22] <JackYu> happyaron, 今天大家都很忙啊，你能找个人upload不？
[14:23] <JackYu> smartboyhw, 这是什么啊:)
[14:23] <smartboyhw> JackYu, some typhoon striking at Hong Kong:(
[14:23] <happyaron> JackYu: 貌似我没你面子大呢。。
[14:24] <happyaron> JackYu: 他们说Laney表示还需要一个archive admin approve，不知为何
[14:24] <JackYu> smartboyhw, OH....那快到HK啦
[14:24] <smartboyhw> JackYu, Sunday Evening - Monday Morning
[14:24] <JackYu> happyaron, 是的，我也奇怪。
[14:24] <smartboyhw> happyaron, JackYu archive admin
[14:24] <smartboyhw> ?
[14:24]  * smartboyhw can get you someone
[14:24] <smartboyhw> Just give me the bug no.
[14:25] <JackYu> marrtboyhw, bug #1226492
[14:29] <happyaron> JackYu: 貌似他们都在开会，但不知道是什么会
[14:32] <JackYu> happyaron, 是的，很无语啊。好像Anthony也要过去了，在加拿大。
[14:32] <JackYu> happyaron, 不知道是不是同一个。
[14:32] <happyaron> 不知
[14:33] <JackYu> 恩， 这两天都没见到seb128，他每次响应都很及时:)
[14:34] <JackYu> smartboyhw, did you get one? :)
[14:35] <smartboyhw> JackYu, the archive admin wants you to subscribe ~ubuntu-release
[14:35] <smartboyhw> Ah no:P
[14:35] <smartboyhw> JackYu, ACKed.
[14:37] <JackYu> smartboyhw, done
[14:38] <smartboyhw> JackYu, no need to subscribe
[14:39] <JackYu> great, jr done:).
[14:39] <JackYu> thanks, smartboyhw.
[14:45] <JackYu> happyaron, 那咱们明天在找人upload?
[14:45] <happyaron> JackYu: 只能这样吧，jr得ack之后才行
[14:45] <happyaron> 额，貌似jr这样算是ack了？
[14:45] <JackYu> 是的:)
[14:46] <JackYu> 现在只要upload就行了
[14:46] <happyaron> JackYu: 这个随时有人能帮忙upload都行啊
[14:47] <happyaron> smartboyhw: can you find someone to do that, MOTU should be enough
[14:47] <happyaron> it's targeted for universe
[14:47] <smartboyhw> happyaron, unfortunately, MOTUs are quite difficult to find;P
[14:47] <JackYu> happyaron, 我平时常找的几个朋友都不在啊:(
[14:47] <happyaron> JackYu: 嗯
[14:47] <happyaron> smartboyhw: core-dev is even better... :)
[14:56] <JackYu> happyaron, 你什么时候会申请motu？zhengpeng也到日本出差了，他好像有权限。
[14:57] <happyaron> JackYu: 我估计目前还申请不了，
[14:57] <happyaron> JackYu: 不管motu还是core-dev都是要archive wide contribution，我只缺这项于是上次core dev application挂了
[14:57] <JackYu> happyaron, 呵呵，继续加油。
[14:58] <happyaron> JackYu: 感觉就是不太愿意给这种能上传新包的权限了
[14:58] <happyaron> JackYu: 2012-2013年core dev就过了一个还似乎两个
[14:58] <JackYu> happyaron, 是的，这个权限很难，我有关注过:)
[14:59] <JackYu> 不过你再加油一段时间应该就OK了。
[14:59] <happyaron> JackYu: 主要是得到处参与
[14:59] <happyaron> JackYu: 什么事情都参与下。
[14:59] <JackYu> 恩。。。
[15:00] <smartboyhw> happyaron, make more contributions:P
[15:00] <smartboyhw> Core Dev is VERY difficult to get.
[15:01] <happyaron> smartboyhw: 我都在ubuntu社区进进出出好几次了……
[15:01]  * smartboyhw would rather work hard to become a MOTU in 1.5 years, rather than to spend 4 years to become a Ubuntu Core Dev:P
[15:01] <smartboyhw> happyaron, heh
[15:02] <JackYu> good luck for you two guys:)
[15:02] <smartboyhw> JackYu, you should work to at least gain upload access.
[15:03] <JackYu> yes. That's my goal!
[15:04] <JackYu> happyaron, 你成为ubuntukylin-dev是在哪儿讨论的？
[15:04] <happyaron> JackYu: DMB meeting
[15:04] <happyaron> JackYu: 当时申请core-dev没过，就给了我ubuntukylin-dev的ppu
[15:04] <happyaron> :(
[15:05] <smartboyhw> (While me being a kubuntu-dev is given by kubuntu-dev)
[15:05] <JackYu> happyaron, 我晕。。。还兴给安慰奖啊。
[15:05] <smartboyhw> Some teams can be relegated to approve among themselves
[15:05] <happyaron> 话说当年MOTU还是很容易得到的，zhengpeng还进进出出过几次。。。
[15:05] <JackYu> smartboyhw, 是的。
[15:05] <smartboyhw> happyaron, now MOTU means that you have to work on packages unaccessible in Debian-.-
[15:06] <JackYu> 呵呵，好日子一去不复返了。
[15:06] <happyaron> smartboyhw: 是啊
[15:06] <happyaron> smartboyhw: DMB meeting那天他们就说我，DD yes, but no archive wide contribution, +0 ...
[15:06] <happyaron> 然后就悲剧了
[15:07] <smartboyhw> heh heh
[15:10] <happyaron> JackYu: 你们最好能尽量多的人获得ubuntukylin-dev的ppu
[15:11] <happyaron> JackYu: 这样这个flavor才能在社区里让人觉得更加靠谱
[15:12] <JackYu> happyaron, 是的，我先准备一下，等我过了，再告诉其它同事如何准备。目前NUDT这边都以开发为主，对社区不太熟悉:)
[15:12] <happyaron> JackYu: 你问问那个jbicha能不能帮你upload
[15:12] <happyaron> JackYu: 他是社区的，我认为私聊就行
[15:13] <happyaron> JackYu: 连续在-devel -desktop为同一件事ping人不太好
[15:13] <happyaron> 没搞错的话他是MOTU
[15:14] <JackYu> OK
[15:17] <smartboyhw> JackYu, you need to make NUDT be more community-ized
[15:17] <JackYu> smartboyhw, yes, I'm doing that...
[15:25] <JackYu> happyaron, jbicha也很忙啊，他说不一定有时间。
[15:25] <JackYu> happyaron, 你的Wiki上“Discovering the best FOSS user experience for Chinese by cooperating with Linux Deepin project.”
[15:26] <JackYu> happyaron, "Currently focus on"这部分好像该更新了:)
[15:28] <happyaron> JackYu: ok
[15:28] <happyaron> JackYu: 我都不知道啥时候更新过的了
[15:29] <JackYu> happyaron, just a suggestion:)。应该是去年2011的信息了。
[15:29] <JackYu> 2011年。
[15:29] <happyaron> 正在改
[15:30] <JackYu> great!
[15:31] <happyaron> updated
[15:31] <happyaron> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AronXu/DeveloperApplication
[15:31] <happyaron> 这是我的developer application，最近用过的
[15:33] <JackYu> 恩，这个我看到啦
[15:34] <JackYu> 正在学习。
[15:41] <happyaron> JackYu: 基本上就是debian new maintainer's guide + debian policy
[15:41] <JackYu> 恩:)
[15:41] <smartboyhw> And the Ubuntu Packaging Guide;)