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skreech__Riddell: Saw Contribook?00:10
ScottKshadeslayer: Should go in $HOMEDIR/pbuilder.03:05
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ScottKshadeslayer: I updated the saucy tarball in my $HOMEDIR, so you can copy it again and you won't have to worry about updating it.03:37
* ScottK beats on pykde4.04:22
skellatLP Bug #1227585 got filed against Xubuntu originally but it looks like it is actually something Kubuntu-related04:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 1227585 in kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "nfs mount fails on startup" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/122758504:25
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ScottKskellat: NFS issues like that are almost never flavor specific.  It's possibly kernel, plymouth, or nfs that's the problem.04:47
* ScottK heaves pykd4 at the archive and sleeps.05:00
ScottKRiddell: pykde4 may be fixed.  Check in an hour or so.05:00
ScottKRiddell: Not fixed.  Search for sipkdeuipart3.cpp:22329:63 in the latest build log for a quick pointer at the trouble.05:22
* ScottK really sleeps now.05:22
Riddell/build/buildd/pykde4-4.11.1+git20130916/builddir-2.7/sip/kdeui/sipkdeuipart3.cpp:22329:63: error: no matching function for call to 'QList<float>::QList(QList<double>)' sipRes = new QList<qreal>(sipCpp->minorTickMarks());06:43
Riddellyeah same issue06:43
Riddellguess I need to work out how to add back QList<double>06:44
Riddellum, the QList<double> code is from a patch we added anyway from NCommander06:56
Riddellthrown pyqt and pykde into ~kubuntu-active ppa to test there07:00
lordievaderGood morning.07:02
Riddellhi lordievader 07:03
lordievaderHey Riddell, how are you?07:04
RiddellI'm awesome thanks :)07:04
Riddelllordievader: one obvious problem on http://griffioen.no-ip.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs.html the Kubuntu wiki logo is back but it's not a wiki :)07:04
lordievaderAh, true. So that image should be changed to saying "Kubuntu docs" or something?07:06
Riddellyeah or just Kubuntu, whatever we can easily do07:07
Riddelllordievader: lots of changes I see, can you take me through them? http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/kubuntu-docs-downloader.diff07:07
lordievaderRiddell: Sure, where do you want to begin?07:09
Riddelllordievader: was going to ask what process() function was for but I see that's just moved code?07:09
lordievaderYes exactly, I moved that bit into a function so nested includes would work. (I mean an include within an include didn't work at first).07:10
Riddelllordievader: gosh did we have those?07:10
lordievaderWe do yes ;)07:11
lordievaderThe code probably is all over the place, should still make it easier to read.... -.-07:12
Riddelleven code to add in Bold text, whyever is creole not doing that anyway07:14
Riddelllordievader: looks good I'll merge it in07:14
Riddelllordievader: is there a better location we can have this code so you can just edit it directly? 07:15
lordievaderThought that strange too, the bold text thingie.07:15
Riddellwe need to get you into a useful launchpad group so we can share code :)07:15
lordievaderWhoo, that would be sweet :D07:16
Riddelllordievader: I don't suppose you fancy tacking the putting it on a local system issue now?07:18
Riddellneeds going through the old kubuntu-docs package to work out just what khelpcentre expects things to be layed out as07:19
Riddellonce it's working in khelpcentre locally it'll be easy for anyone to package up07:19
lordievaderI'm sorry I don't fully understand what you mean. You want to get these docs onto the iso's? Is that it?07:22
Riddelllordievader: yes that's right07:27
Riddellso they can be read in khelpcentre07:27
lordievaderAh. That is pretty cool. Does khelpcenter 'read' html?07:27
Riddelland first step to that is looking at the old kubuntu-docs package to work out what files need to go where07:27
Riddellyes it can07:27
Riddellhttps://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/kubuntu-docs_12.10.1_all.deb07:27
lordievaderWhoo, fancy. Right, well I can try and mess with it.07:28
Riddellso desktop files in /usr/share/kde4/apps/khelpcenter/plugins/kubuntu/ and some other files in /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kubuntu/07:29
lordievaderHow can I test wether the docs are showing up correctly in the khelpcenter?07:31
Riddelllordievader: open khelpcentre and look :)07:31
lordievaderOkay, thanks :)07:32
soeegood morning08:04
lordievaderHey soee 08:06
jdrabhi guys according to http://html5test.com rekonq(2.3.2 on 13.04) has support for forms > keygen but this does not work http://www.wufoo.com/html5/elements/4-keygen.html  08:21
jdrabon the other hand firefox 24 does not support this element but it works on that wuffoo page :D08:21
lordievaderRiddell: How is the css support in the khelpcenter?09:59
Riddelllordievader: um not sure, it's just khtml so it should be just the same as any web browser10:02
lordievaderRiddell: RIght ok, I got a basic (read without css) working.10:03
davmor2Riddell: Man that jumper still looks good if that is a recent photo10:09
Riddelldavmor2: photo from last night, that thing is precious, I don't let the moths at it!10:30
Riddelllordievader: is it at a css path it can find?10:30
Riddelllordievader: the old kubuntu-docs package must have used css no?10:30
davmor2Riddell: :D  Sue keeps meaning to do an updated one but just doesn't have much time :)10:31
Riddelldavmor2: jings she's done more than enough, it's still a quality jumper and I don't think the new logo would even come out well in knitting10:34
davmor2Riddell: haha, that won't stop her you know how crazy she is for knitting challenges :D10:34
lordievaderRiddell: I believe it can find it, but I don't really know what is going on. When I access the files through a webbrowser it shows up correctly.10:39
lordievaderRiddell: It currently looks like this: http://griffioen.no-ip.org/kubuntu-docs.png10:49
lordievaderCould it be that khelpcenter strips the css of a few tags (like the background)?10:50
yossarianukhow come the iso for 13.04 has never been updated? Its shipping we a buggy kernel .19 - that only boots up 50% of the time  and 'out the box' the desktop is broken with dual screens...10:57
yossarianuki.e10:57
yossarianuk https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-settings/+bug/117468910:57
ubottuUbuntu bug 1174689 in kubuntu-settings (Ubuntu Raring) "Nvidia/Dual screen - No Taskbar/Kdemenu on default install Kubuntu 13.04" [Medium,Fix released]10:57
yossarianukyou have to upgrade 'before' entering KDE otherwise you do not have a usable desktop10:57
yossarianuki.e no task bar10:57
yossarianuk,etc10:57
yossarianukno kmenu10:57
yossarianuk kubuntu is great once you update it...10:58
yossarianukhowever newbies will just think that 'Linux sucks'10:58
yossarianuksurely with such a severe bug the iso should be updated?10:59
shadeslayeryossarianuk: I don't think ISO's are ever updated11:01
shadeslayerafter being released11:01
yossarianukshadeslayer: perhaps wize to potentially change that policy...11:21
shadeslayernot really11:22
yossarianukok at the minute I have just lost 2 people who wanted to try out linux for the first time.11:43
yossarianukthey thought the desktop was not meant to have a menu or be usable.11:44
yossarianuki.e they are re-installing windows 811:44
yossarianukwhich is terrible11:44
yossarianukhad the desktop worked they would have been happy using it...11:44
yossarianukbut by default the desktop is broken with dual monitors.11:45
Tm_Tyossarianuk: broken?11:49
lordievaderyossarianuk: If updating worked for you, did you suggest that to them?11:49
Tm_TNvidia, ahhh11:49
yossarianukits find after updating = hence my query about updating the iso11:50
yossarianukyes i did -  but they now think Linux is buggy and have given up using the desktop....11:50
Riddellyossarianuk: we only update the LTS images, it's a large operation.  but you can install updates during installation11:50
yossarianukTo be hinest if it had been my 1st experience I would have 2...11:51
yossarianukfair enough.11:51
Riddellsorry to hear of the bad experience11:51
yossarianukthe kernel should also have been updated the .19 one fails to boot about 50% of the time11:51
yossarianuk(on nvidia + intel h./w)11:52
yossarianukits annoying as its fine after updating .... Which is why updating the .iso could have been a good idea. (but yes it i imagine it would be a lot of work..)#11:53
yossarianukI have alsio suggested trying again when 13.10 is out.11:53
yossarianukp.s - i'm not just trolling - I use kubuntu at home + work .... I just want Linux desktop to succeed.11:57
yossarianukThank you all for your efforts ...11:57
yossarianukOne thing I wish Kubuntu would do seeing as the Xorg/Mir split will be happening is to always have the latest version of the Nvidia driver in the normal repos.11:59
yossarianukeven the 319-updates, etc is not the latest version...11:59
yossarianukit makes no sense to ship a Nvidia driver with known bugs in (and that doesn;t support  latest h/w) in the name of 'stability'.12:00
debfxactually 319 is the latest stable driver from nvidia12:05
shadeslayerwhat debfx said12:47
Riddellhey I worked out how to make a pandaboard accessible to the outside world!12:58
Riddellwho wants a try?12:58
yossarianuk319 - is  the latest - however its not in 13.04 by default...13:01
yossarianukals the 319 package is not the latest 319 version...13:01
shadeslayerRiddell: can do13:02
shadeslayerwhich reminds me, I need to check my qtwebkit build13:02
RiddellScottK: what sort of storage do you have on your arm box?13:23
shadeslayerI think he had a usb stick13:23
Riddellyeah it's not huge, only 8G13:26
Riddellshadeslayer: what are you doing with qt webkit?13:28
shadeslayerfixing it13:28
Riddellshadeslayer: how?13:28
shadeslayer2.3.2 is failing on armhf13:28
shadeslayerRiddell: added DEFINES+=WTF_USE_3D_GRAPHICS=013:29
Riddellshadeslayer: yeah, where are you building it and how did you work out that fix?13:29
shadeslayerbuilding it on Scott's ARM boxes13:29
shadeslayerand got that tip from carewolf in #qtwebkit13:30
shadeslayergoing to take ages13:30
Riddellshadeslayer: ah I see ScottK's arm has a 15G drive on /var/cache/pbuilder too13:31
shadeslayerProject ERROR: Failed to run perl /tmp/buildd/qtwebkit-source-2.3.2/Tools/qmake/syncqt-4.8 -outdir /tmp/buildd/qtwebkit-source-2.3.2/WebKitBuild/Release -separate-module QtWebKit:/tmp/buildd/qtwebkit-source-2.3.2/Source:WebKit/qt/Api                              13:32
shadeslayer:(13:32
Riddellum, that seems unrelated to anything13:33
shadeslayeryeah13:33
shadeslayerI think I'll clean it13:33
shadeslayerand run it again13:33
Riddellphew, pyqt is slow on this qemu launchpad builder https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-active/+archive/ppa/+build/503511713:33
smartboyhw?13:35
Riddell??13:36
BluesKajHowdy all13:44
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apolJontheEchidna: ping14:04
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shadeslayertsdegos bought us all Dragon Ball Z cans15:58
shadeslayerwith strawberry liquid in then15:58
shadeslayer*them15:58
Riddellshadeslayer: whatever is Dragon Ball Z ?16:58
shadeslayer:O16:58
shadeslayer:O16:58
lordievaderO.O16:58
shadeslayeroh yeah16:58
shadeslayerI forget16:58
shadeslayeryou're old16:59
shadeslayer:P16:59
lordievaderHehe16:59
shadeslayerRiddell: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Ball_Z17:00
shadeslayerRiddell: tsdegos is as old as you and *he* knows about DBZ17:00
Riddellah, cartoons, is bugs bunny in it? I like bugs bunny17:01
shadeslayerit's equivalent to asking "What's Doctor Who"17:01
shadeslayerhah no17:02
lordievaderNice comeback though.17:07
shadeslayerhttp://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/a-look-back-at-every-ubuntu-default-wallpaper17:16
shadeslayeris it just me, or are the last 3 default wallpapers look exactly the same17:16
Riddellnot just you17:18
Riddellgosh nasty comment on http://blogs.kde.org/2013/09/20/winter-coming#comments20:22
Riddelland there I was thinking the advantage of a blogs.kde.org blog was it's too much hassle for the trolls to comment20:24
Riddellhah someone deleted it20:25

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