[00:10] Riddell: Saw Contribook? [03:05] shadeslayer: Should go in $HOMEDIR/pbuilder. === fenris-_ is now known as ejat [03:37] shadeslayer: I updated the saucy tarball in my $HOMEDIR, so you can copy it again and you won't have to worry about updating it. [04:22] * ScottK beats on pykde4. [04:25] LP Bug #1227585 got filed against Xubuntu originally but it looks like it is actually something Kubuntu-related [04:25] Launchpad bug 1227585 in kubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) "nfs mount fails on startup" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/1227585 === ronnoc_ is now known as ronnoc [04:47] skellat: NFS issues like that are almost never flavor specific. It's possibly kernel, plymouth, or nfs that's the problem. [05:00] * ScottK heaves pykd4 at the archive and sleeps. [05:00] Riddell: pykde4 may be fixed. Check in an hour or so. [05:22] Riddell: Not fixed. Search for sipkdeuipart3.cpp:22329:63 in the latest build log for a quick pointer at the trouble. [05:22] * ScottK really sleeps now. [06:43] /build/buildd/pykde4-4.11.1+git20130916/builddir-2.7/sip/kdeui/sipkdeuipart3.cpp:22329:63: error: no matching function for call to 'QList::QList(QList)' sipRes = new QList(sipCpp->minorTickMarks()); [06:43] yeah same issue [06:44] guess I need to work out how to add back QList [06:56] um, the QList code is from a patch we added anyway from NCommander [07:00] thrown pyqt and pykde into ~kubuntu-active ppa to test there [07:02] Good morning. [07:03] hi lordievader [07:04] Hey Riddell, how are you? [07:04] I'm awesome thanks :) [07:04] lordievader: one obvious problem on http://griffioen.no-ip.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs.html the Kubuntu wiki logo is back but it's not a wiki :) [07:06] Ah, true. So that image should be changed to saying "Kubuntu docs" or something? [07:07] yeah or just Kubuntu, whatever we can easily do [07:07] lordievader: lots of changes I see, can you take me through them? http://starsky.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/kubuntu-docs-downloader.diff [07:09] Riddell: Sure, where do you want to begin? [07:09] lordievader: was going to ask what process() function was for but I see that's just moved code? [07:10] Yes exactly, I moved that bit into a function so nested includes would work. (I mean an include within an include didn't work at first). [07:10] lordievader: gosh did we have those? [07:11] We do yes ;) [07:12] The code probably is all over the place, should still make it easier to read.... -.- [07:14] even code to add in Bold text, whyever is creole not doing that anyway [07:14] lordievader: looks good I'll merge it in [07:15] lordievader: is there a better location we can have this code so you can just edit it directly? [07:15] Thought that strange too, the bold text thingie. [07:15] we need to get you into a useful launchpad group so we can share code :) [07:16] Whoo, that would be sweet :D [07:18] lordievader: I don't suppose you fancy tacking the putting it on a local system issue now? [07:19] needs going through the old kubuntu-docs package to work out just what khelpcentre expects things to be layed out as [07:19] once it's working in khelpcentre locally it'll be easy for anyone to package up [07:22] I'm sorry I don't fully understand what you mean. You want to get these docs onto the iso's? Is that it? [07:27] lordievader: yes that's right [07:27] so they can be read in khelpcentre [07:27] Ah. That is pretty cool. Does khelpcenter 'read' html? [07:27] and first step to that is looking at the old kubuntu-docs package to work out what files need to go where [07:27] yes it can [07:27] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/kubuntu-docs_12.10.1_all.deb [07:28] Whoo, fancy. Right, well I can try and mess with it. [07:29] so desktop files in /usr/share/kde4/apps/khelpcenter/plugins/kubuntu/ and some other files in /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kubuntu/ [07:31] How can I test wether the docs are showing up correctly in the khelpcenter? [07:31] lordievader: open khelpcentre and look :) [07:32] Okay, thanks :) [08:04] good morning [08:06] Hey soee [08:21] hi guys according to http://html5test.com rekonq(2.3.2 on 13.04) has support for forms > keygen but this does not work http://www.wufoo.com/html5/elements/4-keygen.html [08:21] on the other hand firefox 24 does not support this element but it works on that wuffoo page :D [09:59] Riddell: How is the css support in the khelpcenter? [10:02] lordievader: um not sure, it's just khtml so it should be just the same as any web browser [10:03] Riddell: RIght ok, I got a basic (read without css) working. [10:09] Riddell: Man that jumper still looks good if that is a recent photo [10:30] davmor2: photo from last night, that thing is precious, I don't let the moths at it! [10:30] lordievader: is it at a css path it can find? [10:30] lordievader: the old kubuntu-docs package must have used css no? [10:31] Riddell: :D Sue keeps meaning to do an updated one but just doesn't have much time :) [10:34] davmor2: jings she's done more than enough, it's still a quality jumper and I don't think the new logo would even come out well in knitting [10:34] Riddell: haha, that won't stop her you know how crazy she is for knitting challenges :D [10:39] Riddell: I believe it can find it, but I don't really know what is going on. When I access the files through a webbrowser it shows up correctly. [10:49] Riddell: It currently looks like this: http://griffioen.no-ip.org/kubuntu-docs.png [10:50] Could it be that khelpcenter strips the css of a few tags (like the background)? [10:57] how come the iso for 13.04 has never been updated? Its shipping we a buggy kernel .19 - that only boots up 50% of the time and 'out the box' the desktop is broken with dual screens... [10:57] i.e [10:57] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/kubuntu-settings/+bug/1174689 [10:57] Ubuntu bug 1174689 in kubuntu-settings (Ubuntu Raring) "Nvidia/Dual screen - No Taskbar/Kdemenu on default install Kubuntu 13.04" [Medium,Fix released] [10:57] you have to upgrade 'before' entering KDE otherwise you do not have a usable desktop [10:57] i.e no task bar [10:57] ,etc [10:57] no kmenu [10:58] kubuntu is great once you update it... [10:58] however newbies will just think that 'Linux sucks' [10:59] surely with such a severe bug the iso should be updated? [11:01] yossarianuk: I don't think ISO's are ever updated [11:01] after being released [11:21] shadeslayer: perhaps wize to potentially change that policy... [11:22] not really [11:43] ok at the minute I have just lost 2 people who wanted to try out linux for the first time. [11:44] they thought the desktop was not meant to have a menu or be usable. [11:44] i.e they are re-installing windows 8 [11:44] which is terrible [11:44] had the desktop worked they would have been happy using it... [11:45] but by default the desktop is broken with dual monitors. [11:49] yossarianuk: broken? [11:49] yossarianuk: If updating worked for you, did you suggest that to them? [11:49] Nvidia, ahhh [11:50] its find after updating = hence my query about updating the iso [11:50] yes i did - but they now think Linux is buggy and have given up using the desktop.... [11:50] yossarianuk: we only update the LTS images, it's a large operation. but you can install updates during installation [11:51] To be hinest if it had been my 1st experience I would have 2... [11:51] fair enough. [11:51] sorry to hear of the bad experience [11:51] the kernel should also have been updated the .19 one fails to boot about 50% of the time [11:52] (on nvidia + intel h./w) [11:53] its annoying as its fine after updating .... Which is why updating the .iso could have been a good idea. (but yes it i imagine it would be a lot of work..)# [11:53] I have alsio suggested trying again when 13.10 is out. [11:57] p.s - i'm not just trolling - I use kubuntu at home + work .... I just want Linux desktop to succeed. [11:57] Thank you all for your efforts ... [11:59] One thing I wish Kubuntu would do seeing as the Xorg/Mir split will be happening is to always have the latest version of the Nvidia driver in the normal repos. [11:59] even the 319-updates, etc is not the latest version... [12:00] it makes no sense to ship a Nvidia driver with known bugs in (and that doesn;t support latest h/w) in the name of 'stability'. [12:05] actually 319 is the latest stable driver from nvidia [12:47] what debfx said [12:58] hey I worked out how to make a pandaboard accessible to the outside world! [12:58] who wants a try? [13:01] 319 - is the latest - however its not in 13.04 by default... [13:01] als the 319 package is not the latest 319 version... [13:02] Riddell: can do [13:02] which reminds me, I need to check my qtwebkit build [13:23] ScottK: what sort of storage do you have on your arm box? [13:23] I think he had a usb stick [13:26] yeah it's not huge, only 8G [13:28] shadeslayer: what are you doing with qt webkit? [13:28] fixing it [13:28] shadeslayer: how? [13:28] 2.3.2 is failing on armhf [13:29] Riddell: added DEFINES+=WTF_USE_3D_GRAPHICS=0 [13:29] shadeslayer: yeah, where are you building it and how did you work out that fix? [13:29] building it on Scott's ARM boxes [13:30] and got that tip from carewolf in #qtwebkit [13:30] going to take ages [13:31] shadeslayer: ah I see ScottK's arm has a 15G drive on /var/cache/pbuilder too [13:32] Project ERROR: Failed to run perl /tmp/buildd/qtwebkit-source-2.3.2/Tools/qmake/syncqt-4.8 -outdir /tmp/buildd/qtwebkit-source-2.3.2/WebKitBuild/Release -separate-module QtWebKit:/tmp/buildd/qtwebkit-source-2.3.2/Source:WebKit/qt/Api [13:32] :( [13:33] um, that seems unrelated to anything [13:33] yeah [13:33] I think I'll clean it [13:33] and run it again [13:33] phew, pyqt is slow on this qemu launchpad builder https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-active/+archive/ppa/+build/5035117 [13:35] ? [13:36] ?? [13:44] Howdy all === Squt is now known as Sput [14:04] JontheEchidna: ping === dantti_laptop|2 is now known as dantti [15:58] tsdegos bought us all Dragon Ball Z cans [15:58] with strawberry liquid in then [15:58] *them [16:58] shadeslayer: whatever is Dragon Ball Z ? [16:58] :O [16:58] :O [16:58] O.O [16:58] oh yeah [16:58] I forget [16:59] you're old [16:59] :P [16:59] Hehe [17:00] Riddell: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dragon_Ball_Z [17:00] Riddell: tsdegos is as old as you and *he* knows about DBZ [17:01] ah, cartoons, is bugs bunny in it? I like bugs bunny [17:01] it's equivalent to asking "What's Doctor Who" [17:02] hah no [17:07] Nice comeback though. [17:16] http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2010/09/a-look-back-at-every-ubuntu-default-wallpaper [17:16] is it just me, or are the last 3 default wallpapers look exactly the same [17:18] not just you [20:22] gosh nasty comment on http://blogs.kde.org/2013/09/20/winter-coming#comments [20:24] and there I was thinking the advantage of a blogs.kde.org blog was it's too much hassle for the trolls to comment [20:25] hah someone deleted it