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| MooDoo | morning all | 06:39 |
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| Myrtti | möh | 07:13 |
| MooDoo | Myrtti: that good eh! | 07:19 |
| Myrtti | SWEEEEEEEET | 07:19 |
| Myrtti | BETTER NOW | 07:19 |
| Myrtti | I GOT A JOB | 07:19 |
| Myrtti | aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa | 07:20 |
| MooDoo | Myrtti: CONGRATS!!! what you doing? | 07:24 |
| Myrtti | developer community management | 07:25 |
| MooDoo | fantastic :) well done! | 07:25 |
| Myrtti | I'm having a total meltdown here | 07:26 |
| Myrtti | aw man | 07:26 |
| Myrtti | aaaahhhhhhhhhh.... | 07:26 |
| MooDoo | Myrtti: meltdown in a good way I do hope :) | 07:29 |
| Myrtti | crying, and laughing, and running around my apartment | 07:29 |
| MooDoo | do the dance of jot :) | 07:30 |
| MooDoo | *joy | 07:30 |
| Myrtti | I'll do that in the shower :-D | 07:30 |
| MooDoo | Myrtti: are you employed at the moment? | 07:30 |
| Myrtti | haven't been for more or less two years | 07:30 |
| MooDoo | by choice or circumstances? | 07:30 |
| MooDoo | sorry i'm being nosey :) | 07:31 |
| Myrtti | Nokia meltdown that trickled down to subcontractors | 07:31 |
| popey | \o/ | 07:31 |
| MooDoo | fab :) | 07:31 |
| MooDoo | moring popey | 07:31 |
| popey | Myrtti: congratulations! | 07:31 |
| popey | Yo! | 07:31 |
| Myrtti | but a bit of both, I had a time I wasn't sure what I actually want to do in my life and and then I've had family issues, parents kicking the bucket etc | 07:31 |
| popey | haha | 07:32 |
| popey | love that phrase | 07:32 |
| Myrtti | well my dad nearly literally did that, ultimately dying of alcoholism | 07:32 |
| MooDoo | Myrtti: well I'm stoked for you, when you start? | 07:32 |
| Myrtti | unofficially now, officially start of the month. I do the hours in and get to keep them as holiday | 07:33 |
| DJones | Congratulations Myrtti Good lick with the new job | 07:41 |
| DJones | s/luck/lick/ | 07:41 |
| MooDoo | Myrtti: well that's brilliant news :D | 07:48 |
| bigcalm | Good morning peeps :) | 07:55 |
| lardman | morning | 07:55 |
| lardman | Anyone have any success using BaseMosaic in xorg.conf? I have two nVidia cards driving 3 monitors and am currently using xinerama, but it seems to have become more broken (dragging and dropping for example) as time goes by | 07:57 |
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| Myrtti | things are looking up, despite the school being ultimately owned by a town council, they don't use MS Outlook. | 08:16 |
| Myrtti | school/college | 08:17 |
| Myrtti | just gets better and better | 08:17 |
| MooDoo | Myrtti: will you get that smile of your face please ;) | 08:18 |
| Myrtti | I'm sure an Alan or D Jones kicks me out if I become too annoying, and I don't blame them at all | 08:19 |
| directhex | lotus notes isn't better! | 08:19 |
| Myrtti | I even approve | 08:19 |
| hoover | morning all | 08:22 |
| popey | went to a meeting at the kids school last night where they explained it's been sold | 08:23 |
| popey | Lots of tense parents asking questions | 08:23 |
| mungbean | how can a school be sold? | 08:24 |
| bigcalm | mungbean: private school? | 08:25 |
| mungbean | popey: ? | 08:25 |
| mungbean | state school or other? | 08:25 |
| popey | independent school | 08:25 |
| bigcalm | Sounds better than private | 08:25 |
| popey | the owner / head has sold it to a company | 08:25 |
| popey | which has investors who want to invest in schools | 08:25 |
| mungbean | invest in, or fleece? | 08:25 |
| popey | invest in | 08:25 |
| popey | improve buildings, add value then sell of course in ~5-7 years time | 08:26 |
| mungbean | so more for real estate than league tables? | 08:26 |
| popey | no, they want to add facilities that the school doesn't have | 08:27 |
| popey | e.g. sports building, pool, newer buildings | 08:27 |
| mungbean | real estate + assets | 08:28 |
| mungbean | could be good thing | 08:28 |
| popey | yeah, they seem like a good bunch | 08:28 |
| mungbean | i understand wary parents | 08:28 |
| popey | first question "will the fees go up?" | 08:28 |
| bigcalm | 2nd question "will teacher's pay go up?" | 08:29 |
| popey | hah, nobody asked that! | 08:29 |
| popey | nobody asked about staff retention | 08:29 |
| bigcalm | popey: not even you? | 08:29 |
| mungbean | private schools are expensive but compared to what you get vs similar cost in a nursery...! | 08:29 |
| mungbean | nursery is a ripoff | 08:30 |
| directhex | £39 a day for ours | 08:31 |
| mungbean | oof | 08:32 |
| MooDoo | wow that's expensive. | 08:33 |
| MooDoo | my number two starts pre nursery next year. | 08:34 |
| popey | both of our kids went to the nursery at the school where they go, so they have grown up with the same kids | 08:34 |
| mungbean | my eldest starts at school nursery next week | 08:34 |
| mungbean | afternoons only | 08:34 |
| MooDoo | nice, my son just started reception class, but it will be nice when he's older when his sis starts at same school | 08:35 |
| popey | Sam got onto the School Council this week ☻ | 08:35 |
| popey | Gets to take issues from class to the management team and tell them what the kids want ☻ | 08:35 |
| directhex | nursery costs more for babies than toddlers | 08:35 |
| MooDoo | popey: taking after his father in leadership roles eh ;) | 08:35 |
| popey | yeah | 08:35 |
| MooDoo | nice | 08:35 |
| mungbean | see this unfortunate pic of farage? http://i.imgur.com/TNEVo7s.jpg | 08:35 |
| popey | haha | 08:35 |
| MooDoo | snigger | 08:36 |
| bigcalm | :D | 08:37 |
| bigcalm | So... | 08:40 |
| popey | CHOO CHOO! | 08:40 |
| bigcalm | Anything exciting happening this weekend? | 08:40 |
| AlanBell | :) | 08:40 |
| bigcalm | I see that popey is using predictive text | 08:41 |
| MooDoo | real ale train day? | 08:41 |
| bigcalm | !rat | 08:41 |
| lubotu3 | The Real Ale Train. A yearly Ubuntu UK loco event to celebrate friends, trains and ale. 21st September 2013, Hampshire, UK: http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/2320-real-ale-train/ | 08:41 |
| popey | shall I bring CaH? | 08:41 |
| bigcalm | I damn well hope it's yearly :) | 08:41 |
| bigcalm | popey: you shall | 08:41 |
| popey | k | 08:41 |
| bigcalm | I have no idea how it works, but sounds fun | 08:41 |
| bigcalm | I managed to find a hip flask at argos yesterday afternoon | 08:42 |
| popey | you're taking booze to a train full of booze? | 08:42 |
| bigcalm | Sadly it came as part of a "best man" set with cufflinks | 08:42 |
| bigcalm | popey: for Hayley | 08:42 |
| bigcalm | If you recall, they ran out of miniatures | 08:42 |
| popey | ah | 08:43 |
| brobostigon | good morning everyone. | 08:43 |
| bigcalm | Will still buy diet coke or something | 08:43 |
| bigcalm | AlanBell: Hayley wants to know if you'll be brining your hat | 08:43 |
| AlanBell | I certainly will :) | 08:57 |
| hoover | Hey biggie | 09:03 |
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| popey | saw this and thought of ali1234 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CE5mhct5L0Y#t=82 | 09:32 |
| diddledan | popey: that'snuts | 09:49 |
| davmor2 | Morning all | 10:10 |
| MooDoo | morning davmor2 | 10:10 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: me owld mucka, how's life treatin' ya | 10:11 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: alreet youth, getting last minute bits for the kids party on sunday, and no thinking of upgrading my laptop to saucy! | 10:12 |
| MooDoo | now thnking | 10:12 |
| popey | i thought you ran fedora? | 10:12 |
| MooDoo | popey: only in a VM, ran ubuntu for yonks | 10:13 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: I think you need to go back to bed if you are no thnking ;) | 10:13 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: yeah tell me about it....i blame the kids...fancy having their party on the same day lol ;) | 10:13 |
| davmor2 | popey: MooDoo is like Vader, there good left in him yet :D | 10:13 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: popey there is lots of good in me, although i am still dual booting it with windows 8....... | 10:14 |
| * MooDoo ducks and runs | 10:14 | |
| davmor2 | and theres the darkside | 10:14 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: sowweeeee | 10:15 |
| MooDoo | popey: I grew up and stopped changing my os as much as my pants as you once put it ;) | 10:16 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: Windows 8 though dude, have you had a proper play with it? man it's aweful, windows 7 was so much better in so many ways | 10:16 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: the only thing i don't like is metro, the interface sucks, but 8.1 is coming out soon, which gives you the ability to boot to desktop and gives you a semi start button back. What I don't like is the metro interface on windows 2012 server.....WTF? | 10:17 |
| diddledan | what's the state of play with 3d support on nvidia optimus these days? | 10:17 |
| diddledan | that question is somewhat related | 10:17 |
| diddledan | windows 8 - I'm thinking of running it to get decent gfx performance and running ubuntu in a vm | 10:18 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: how the hell is that supposed to work | 10:18 |
| MooDoo | diddledan: i dual boot mine, ubuntu for most stuff and windows for the photoshop I use | 10:18 |
| diddledan | yeah, and it's photoshop that I want the decent gfx performance for | 10:19 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: the thought was that you remote desktop to the server with a tablet. | 10:19 |
| MooDoo | diddledan: I dual boot, it's easier :D | 10:19 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: did you try dark room? | 10:19 |
| diddledan | it would be ok if nvidia optimus worked enough that vmware could do 3d acceleration | 10:19 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: yeah it's fine does work for lots of things, but it's clunky, not as refined as lightroom. | 10:19 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: Ugg, you seem to of mistakenly added the word "the thought" in that sentence :D | 10:20 |
| davmor2 | words even | 10:20 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: as soon as my workflow doesn't need photoshop or lightroom i'll ditch windows, although I may speak to Tony Whitmore as he doesn't use windows | 10:21 |
| diddledan | see, without windows I'd have been stuffed because I've been given a psd design and told "make that into a website" | 10:22 |
| diddledan | I would hate to see what it looked like in the gimp | 10:22 |
| MooDoo | diddledan: do you use photoshop CC? | 10:22 |
| diddledan | MooDoo yeah | 10:23 |
| MooDoo | diddledan: then you'll be able to knock out a site using it in no time what with that new feature added : | 10:23 |
| MooDoo | generator? | 10:24 |
| diddledan | ooh, I've not tried that yet | 10:24 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: doesn't he use this http://www.corel.com/corel/product/index.jsp?pid=prod4670071&cid=catalog20038&segid=6000006&storeKey=us&languageCode=en was bibble pro iirc | 10:24 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: how are you doing? geting close to release time and all that | 10:25 |
| AlanBell | anyone have an opinion on the pub suggestion? | 10:25 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: oooooo not heard about that | 10:25 |
| Laney | come to me local | 10:25 |
| AlanBell | http://www.lordnelsonsouthwark.com/ | 10:26 |
| Laney | abbey street, nottingham | 10:26 |
| diddledan | pub sounds like a good idea. let me grab my coat. see you in 10? | 10:26 |
| diddledan | :-p | 10:26 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: you're welcome :) | 10:26 |
| MooDoo | Laney: johnson arms? | 10:27 |
| Laney | correct | 10:27 |
| MooDoo | Laney: not that far from me, I'm on castle boulevard | 10:28 |
| Laney | \o/ | 10:29 |
| Laney | get down there | 10:29 |
| Laney | east midlands release party | 10:29 |
| Laney | (attendees: 2) | 10:29 |
| MooDoo | Laney: when? | 10:29 |
| MooDoo | at release day? | 10:30 |
| Laney | guess so | 10:30 |
| Laney | not sure I'll actually be around then though, need to check | 10:30 |
| diddledan | when is release day? | 10:30 |
| Laney | !saucy | 10:30 |
| MooDoo | oct 17th | 10:30 |
| lubotu3 | Ubuntu 13.10 (Saucy Salamander) will be the 19th release of Ubuntu. Announcement: http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/1252 - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1 | 10:30 |
| Laney | wtf | 10:30 |
| Laney | !releaseschedule | 10:30 |
| MooDoo | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SaucySalamander/ReleaseSchedule | 10:31 |
| * AlanBell goes to fix | 10:31 | |
| diddledan | four weeks yesterday? | 10:31 |
| diddledan | did I count right? :-p | 10:31 |
| diplo | I'm in Nottingham on tuesday :( | 10:32 |
| Laney | it's always on a thursday, so it's a good start | 10:32 |
| diddledan | I'd be able to make a release party if it was the 19th cos that'ld be saturdsday | 10:32 |
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| Laney | diplo: don't sad face at that | 10:32 |
| Laney | where? | 10:32 |
| diplo | It means meetings though! | 10:32 |
| directhex | optimus is partially implemented in nvidia-glx now | 10:32 |
| directhex | partially | 10:32 |
| directhex | the preferred route remains using third party tools like "optirun" | 10:32 |
| Laney | laghex | 10:32 |
| diplo | Office is based in Colwick but I stay in city centre | 10:32 |
| diddledan | thanks directhex | 10:33 |
| directhex | hm? | 10:33 |
| diplo | The ramadan i think it's called now, used to Holiday Inn | 10:33 |
| directhex | ramada | 10:33 |
| diplo | heh yeah | 10:33 |
| directhex | same company as travelodge | 10:33 |
| diplo | ah, to be honest the hotel was nice before ( nice meaning adequate ) and it's the same staff pretty much just a new sign :) | 10:34 |
| Laney | quite near the malt cross | 10:35 |
| Laney | go there | 10:35 |
| * directhex moos. moo! | 10:37 | |
| diplo | OK, i don't remember most names of pubs but I've visited a fair few | 10:37 |
| * diplo googles | 10:37 | |
| diplo | yeah think I've been there, but may go there Tuesday night | 10:38 |
| Laney | dragon is good | 10:39 |
| Laney | and if you walk up the hill a little bit the hand and heard and the organ grinder are both top notch | 10:39 |
| diplo | I've been to the salutation before :) | 10:40 |
| Laney | haha | 10:40 |
| Laney | you old rocker | 10:40 |
| Laney | we had our rocksoc socials there every week back in the undergrad days | 10:41 |
| diplo | And one up Goldsmith St ( bit of a uni pub a swell ) | 10:41 |
| diplo | I was actually dragged into salutation after visiting a pub opposite and up a bit which was a complete dive | 10:47 |
| Laney | yes yes yes I know the one | 10:47 |
| Laney | g... something | 10:47 |
| Laney | no, chambers | 10:48 |
| Laney | I've been there once and the advice I got from my friend as we were entering was "if someone starts on you, just run" | 10:48 |
| diplo | heh was just googling it, I'd tend to agree.. we lasted about 20 mins and said umm nope. Most people went home but I got dragged on for another few pints | 10:49 |
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| madmouser1 | hi all, any idea how I can add ICA protocol to the UCCS / Remote login sessions for Ubuntu ? Would like to log into a hosted desktop from the login screen | 11:22 |
| mungbean | how can i measure torque i am delivering to a nut? special torque wrench? i need 5nm torque | 11:38 |
| popey | I used a torque wrench | 11:38 |
| mungbean | are they ££? | 11:38 |
| mungbean | ooh http://www.machinemart.co.uk/shop/product/details/cht423-angular-torque-gauge | 11:38 |
| mgdm | Not too bad | 11:38 |
| popey | can't remember, last time I used one was ~1991 | 11:39 |
| mungbean | my roof bars need to be tightened to 5nm but i don't know what that feels like | 11:39 |
| popey | heh mine was way more retro than that | 11:39 |
| mgdm | 5nm is off-scale low for a lot of torque wrenches, I guess | 11:39 |
| mgdm | it's not a lot | 11:39 |
| popey | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:1980_c1980_Torque_wrench,_140ft-lbs_19.36m-kg,_nominally_14-20in,_.5in_socket_drive,_Craftsman_44641_WF,_Sears_dtl.jpg | 11:40 |
| mgdm | it's a force of 0.5kg at the end of a bar 1m long | 11:40 |
| mgdm | (or 1kg on a 0.5m bar :) | 11:40 |
| mungbean | i'll ask a cyclist | 11:41 |
| mungbean | he might have a torque key | 11:41 |
| czajkowski | For those in the land of Ediburgh we've just created http://www.meetup.com/MongoDB-Edinburgh | 11:45 |
| davmor2 | czajkowski: is Ediburgh a bit like Edinburgh? | 12:02 |
| MooDoo | davmor2: you're gonna get a slap | 12:02 |
| davmor2 | MooDoo: Not my fault, I didn't spell it wrong :D | 12:04 |
| sdfghjhgffd | hi | 13:21 |
| sdfghjhgffd | how do i run gui utility that does the keyboard configuration from the terminal? | 13:21 |
| sdfghjhgffd | i'm using ubuntu as guest os in vagrant | 13:21 |
| sdfghjhgffd | thus i don't have access to all the menus | 13:22 |
| sdfghjhgffd | to any of the menus, actually | 13:22 |
| diddledan | sdfghjhgffd: if you mean how do you change the keyboard layout in the terminal/console then run `sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-data`. if you really do want to configure the X keyboard then I don't know how to do that without the gui | 13:24 |
| sdfghjhgffd | i do want do configure the x keyboard | 13:24 |
| sdfghjhgffd | and i have access to the gui, actually | 13:25 |
| sdfghjhgffd | it's just that i run a ssh session with -Y flag | 13:25 |
| sdfghjhgffd | so i can run any x11 app given that i know the command | 13:25 |
| sdfghjhgffd | eg i know what to type in console to invoke that | 13:25 |
| diddledan | in that case then I believe your keyboard is set locally | 13:26 |
| sdfghjhgffd | i afraid it's not | 13:26 |
| diddledan | it _should_ use whatever your client os is using | 13:26 |
| sdfghjhgffd | hmm | 13:26 |
| diddledan | the X server is running on your local pc so the remote doesn't interpret the keypresses at all | 13:27 |
| sdfghjhgffd | i guess it's running on the remote actually | 13:27 |
| sdfghjhgffd | oh wait i think i've confused x11 definitions 'server' and 'client' | 13:27 |
| diddledan | X11 is very confusing with terms like client and server | 13:28 |
| sdfghjhgffd | nonetheless, the problem i want to solve eventually is that i have somehow misconfigured my keyboard in x11 with sudo dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration | 13:29 |
| sdfghjhgffd | and i can't fathom how to configure that back | 13:29 |
| AlanBell | afternoon all | 13:29 |
| MooDoo | AlanBell: hello | 13:29 |
| AlanBell | the Saucy Release party is arranged :) | 13:29 |
| diddledan | you should be able to re-run dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration | 13:30 |
| diddledan | AlanBell: \o/ | 13:30 |
| sdfghjhgffd | of course, i did that many times | 13:30 |
| AlanBell | Canonical will be shout a round of drinks and some snacks too :) | 13:30 |
| sdfghjhgffd | still doesn't help | 13:30 |
| sdfghjhgffd | i don't have any ubuntu to access other than that i am connecting to | 13:31 |
| sdfghjhgffd | but when i had and wanted to know how to run certain app from the menu | 13:32 |
| AlanBell | sdfghjhgffd: can you get to the menus with the keyboard? | 13:32 |
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| sdfghjhgffd | i would drag and drop corresponding icon to gedit | 13:32 |
| sdfghjhgffd | and it will display a config file of sorts, including command i was looking for | 13:32 |
| sdfghjhgffd | AlanBell: i'm ssh -Y 'ing to ubuntu | 13:33 |
| sdfghjhgffd | so the answer is no | 13:33 |
| nayla | Hello, I am nayla | 13:33 |
| AlanBell | ah, so you are not running the desktop, you are remoting apps to another X | 13:33 |
| AlanBell | hello nayla | 13:34 |
| nayla | hello | 13:34 |
| sdfghjhgffd | yeah, that's what i am doing | 13:34 |
| nayla | yesterday i ask about ubuntu partion and one of the member reply | 13:34 |
| nayla | so i will do his recommand way | 13:34 |
| nayla | but i saw two things before i do partition. | 13:34 |
| nayla | Primary and Logical | 13:35 |
| nayla | Which one i need to choose. | 13:35 |
| nayla | Now I am in installation mode. | 13:35 |
| nayla | yesterday one of member reply. | 13:36 |
| AlanBell | sdfghjhgffd: can you run gnome-control-center ? | 13:37 |
| nayla | Hello | 13:38 |
| nayla | I am Nayla | 13:38 |
| sdfghjhgffd | AlanBell: tanks | 13:38 |
| nayla | Now I am doing ubuntu installation. | 13:38 |
| nayla | My laptop is Lenovo x60 | 13:38 |
| AlanBell | nayla: are you setting up dual booting with another operating system? | 13:38 |
| nayla | no | 13:38 |
| nayla | i will format entire disk | 13:39 |
| nayla | RAM - 2GB | 13:39 |
| nayla | HD - 250 GB | 13:39 |
| daftykins | heya | 13:39 |
| nayla | CPU - 1.83 GHz (COre 2 Duo) | 13:39 |
| AlanBell | nayla: ok, in that case when you install it, just go for the automatic options, let it worry about partitioning itself | 13:39 |
| nayla | Thanks for your suggestion. But I feel choosing partitation way is faster. | 13:40 |
| nayla | yesterday one member recommand | 13:40 |
| daftykins | we had a discussion on partitioning yesterday i believe, he's going to do some development work so may benefit from a separate home | 13:40 |
| daftykins | (at the least) | 13:41 |
| nayla | Oh ya | 13:41 |
| nayla | Hi AlanBell, Thanks for your suggestion. yesterday the one i mee is <daftykins> | 13:41 |
| AlanBell | ok, you can do that too, personally I never bother, but you can if you like | 13:41 |
| nayla | Thanks | 13:41 |
| nayla | Hi <diftykins> | 13:42 |
| AlanBell | !tab | 13:42 |
| lubotu3 | You can use your <tab> key for autocompletion of nicknames in IRC, as well as for completion of filenames and programs on the command line. | 13:42 |
| nayla | Now i am in installating | 13:42 |
| nayla | i saw Primary and Logical when i do partition. | 13:42 |
| nayla | Which one i need to choose. | 13:42 |
| daftykins | the /boot we spoke of will be primary | 13:43 |
| daftykins | then all the rest, /, swap and /home will be logical | 13:43 |
| nayla | today home connection has problem :) | 13:44 |
| nayla | hello | 13:44 |
| nayla | May I know which one i need to choose between logical and primary | 13:45 |
| nayla | 150MB /boot ext4 | 13:46 |
| nayla | 20 GB / ext4 4 GB swap then the rest /home ext4 | 13:46 |
| daftykins | the /boot we spoke of will be primary, then all the rest, /, swap and /home will be logical | 13:47 |
| daftykins | nayla: sorry didn't notice you disconnected | 13:47 |
| nayla | daftykins: thanks. i will do now :) | 13:47 |
| mungbean | anyone used davmail behind exchange server? | 13:48 |
| nayla | Hello. I saw the following message when i start ubuntu 12.04 LTS | 14:29 |
| nayla | "kvm: disabled by bios" | 14:29 |
| nayla | May i know what is this? | 14:29 |
| popey | kvm is a driver to allow you to do virtualisation on the cpu | 14:30 |
| popey | it is an informational message that it's disabled | 14:30 |
| nayla | this message means my laptop has a problem or not? | 14:30 |
| popey | nope | 14:31 |
| nayla | currently i turn-on VT. but still the same message showing | 14:31 |
| daftykins | yeah, different virtualisation technologies | 14:33 |
| daftykins | nothing to worry about | 14:33 |
| nayla | I see. Thanks | 14:34 |
| ali1234 | what is a "linux depot" on steam? | 15:37 |
| bashrc | maybe it's like distrowatch | 15:40 |
| directhex | ali1234, depots are collections of files on steam's servers. a depot can be marked with a specific OS, or no marking | 15:44 |
| directhex | ali1234, when you install the game on a given platform, steam will download the contents of one or more relevant depots, and merge them locally to form the game's install directory tree | 15:45 |
| SuperMatt | that's pretty swish | 15:45 |
| ali1234 | i see | 15:46 |
| directhex | here's an example - note the OS-specific depots (with executables) and the shared depot (levels, etc) - http://steamdb.info/app/225140/#section_depots | 15:46 |
| ali1234 | yeah so when I added FTL just now it showed a confusing screen with checkboxes for FTL and FTL: Linux Depot | 15:48 |
| ali1234 | but looking at this: http://steamdb.info/search/?a=app&q=FTL - it looks like the "Linux Depot" is in a separate product for some reason | 15:48 |
| directhex | odd, you should never see depots mentioned in the steam ui | 15:48 |
| ali1234 | yeah, figures | 15:48 |
| directhex | http://steamdb.info/app/212680/#section_depots suggests ftl's depots are a bit of a mess anyway | 15:49 |
| directhex | looks like the linux depot was accidentally marked as an app, by assigning it metadata (depots are basically apps with blank state) | 15:50 |
| directhex | compare to the osx ftl depot: http://steamdb.info/app/212682/ | 15:50 |
| === Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte | ||
| diddledan | oh joy, look at slashdot making itself sound like it's super important and clever: http://linux.slashdot.org/story/13/09/19/0227238/linus-torvalds-admits-hes-been-asked-to-insert-backdoor-into-linux | 16:28 |
| SuperMatt | slashdot always tries that | 16:29 |
| SuperMatt | always fails | 16:29 |
| diddledan | to me it sounds like linus was making a joke. to slashdot it's OMGZORS END OF HUMANITY | 16:30 |
| diddledan | now on an unrelated topic - is anyone else having trouble with google+ right now? | 16:31 |
| AlanBell | http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-uk/2555-saucy-salamander-release-party/ | 16:52 |
| === schwuk is now known as schwuk_away | ||
| === Lcawte is now known as Lcawte|Away | ||
| AlanBell | what are locally integrated menus? | 17:28 |
| popey | AlanBell: you don't remember them? | 17:34 |
| popey | menus that came down from a button in the top left of a window | 17:34 |
| ali1234 | they never actually existed right? | 17:41 |
| ali1234 | which is probably why nobody remembers them | 17:41 |
| ali1234 | gnome has that now btw | 17:41 |
| ali1234 | except they are at the top right | 17:41 |
| ali1234 | well, they're usually in the top right | 17:46 |
| ali1234 | it's part of CSD so the app can basically do anything it wants | 17:46 |
| popey | it existed | 17:49 |
| popey | and was in a ppa | 17:49 |
| popey | http://www.webupd8.org/2012/03/locally-integrated-menus-delayed-for.html | 17:52 |
| popey | looks like the ppa was removed | 17:52 |
| ocean22 | hi guys, is there any way i can install pdfedit on ubuntu 13.04 62bit.tx | 17:52 |
| popey | given it was only a tech demo | 17:52 |
| ali1234 | wasn't it basically canned because compiz didn't want to support CSD and the only other way was with a bunch of nasty dbus hacks (like what indicators use, except even worse) | 17:55 |
| ali1234 | and app menu too of course | 17:55 |
| ali1234 | i suppose we'll probably see it around the same time as mir | 17:56 |
| ali1234 | that's assuming anyone even still uses ubuntu by then | 17:57 |
| popey | ah, the "nobody uses ubuntu" meme | 18:00 |
| ali1234 | sorry, i meant to put "unity" :) | 18:03 |
| AlanBell | popey: yeah, but I didn't think they were being released in 13.10 ;) | 18:33 |
| Myrtti | what version of libssl will be in 13.10? | 18:35 |
| AlanBell | http://www.techrepublic.com/blog/linux-and-open-source/fact-sheet-ubuntu-1310-saucy-salamander/ | 18:35 |
| AlanBell | !info libssl saucy | 18:35 |
| lubotu3 | Package libssl does not exist in saucy | 18:35 |
| Myrtti | ah right, the old one will be in too | 18:36 |
| AlanBell | !info libssl-dev saucy | 18:37 |
| lubotu3 | libssl-dev (source: openssl): SSL development libraries, header files and documentation. In component main, is optional. Version 1.0.1e-3ubuntu1 (saucy), package size 1376 kB, installed size 4844 kB | 18:37 |
| Myrtti | if it weren't available, spotify wouldn't work :-( | 18:37 |
| bigcalm | Not long now | 18:42 |
| popey | hmm, spotify is broken | 18:56 |
| popey | Assertion 's' failed at pulse/stream.c:2525, function pa_stream_get_timing_info(). Aborting. | 18:57 |
| popey | worked fine yesterday | 18:57 |
| davmor2 | popey: it hates you, hate it back works for me :) | 18:58 |
| popey | some tracks work | 18:58 |
| mungbean | what governs suspend and resume on ubuntu? mineis misbehaving after years of working fine | 19:03 |
| mungbean | i did a large dist upgrade and the disk space ran out, might be related | 19:04 |
| popey | have you cleared space and continued the upgrade? | 19:07 |
| popey | sudo dpkg --configure -a | 19:08 |
| mungbean | yes, couple of weeks ago | 19:09 |
| mungbean | all is well | 19:09 |
| mungbean | tried the 3.8 and 3.2 kernel too | 19:10 |
| mungbean | resume works ok but opens desktop without lock screen :S | 19:10 |
| mungbean | wireless takes longer to come back | 19:10 |
| mungbean | High quality global journalism requires investment. Please share this article with others using the link below, do not cut & paste the article. See our Ts&Cs and Copyright Policy for more detail. Email ftsales.support@ft.com to buy additional rights. http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/a50a96e6-2131-11e3-8aff-00144feab7de.html#ixzz2fSmUdNt2 | 19:33 |
| mungbean | Stephen Elop is to receive an €18.8m pay-off to move from Nokia to Microsoft, or about €1m for every €1bn of market value lost under his leadership of the Finnish mobile phone group. | 19:33 |
| mungbean | woops | 19:33 |
| popey | hah, i block that crap | 19:34 |
| popey | you pay for ft? | 19:34 |
| mungbean | no | 19:34 |
| popey | i get a paywall | 19:34 |
| mungbean | its the free to view first para | 19:35 |
| mungbean | but you can answer a question to read it. maybe via goog | 19:35 |
| popey | yeah, it was on bbc earlier | 19:36 |
| popey | with a snipe from finnish minisers | 19:36 |
| mungbean | shameful situation | 19:37 |
| popey | and completely predictable | 19:37 |
| mungbean | :( | 19:37 |
| bigcalm | T9? | 19:39 |
| mungbean | wow what a terrible page http://dmitry.gr/index.php?r=05.Projects&proj=15&proj=15.%20Transcend%20WiFiSD | 19:40 |
| mungbean | try selecting text for readability..nope | 19:40 |
| mungbean | wifey is out tonight | 19:43 |
| mungbean | wish i could play gta5. but i have no ps3/xbox. or gta5. | 19:43 |
| DJones | Blackberry shares suspended on the stock market http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-24182038 Thats never a good sign | 19:47 |
| mungbean | been a long time coming | 19:49 |
| mungbean | new one-off episode of IT crowd next friday | 19:56 |
| DJones | I'm glad I'm not an IT worker in LOndon call Paul LOvell, getting your name mentioned on El Reg can't be good for your future | 19:58 |
| mungbean | is hurt locker film any good? | 19:59 |
| mungbean | just starting now | 19:59 |
| mungbean | DJones: there's a pic of him too | 19:59 |
| mungbean | and i used to walk my dog there | 20:00 |
| DJones | Not seen the pic | 20:00 |
| mungbean | unfair to name him if the incident is still only alleged | 20:01 |
| DJones | Very true | 20:01 |
| DJones | I like way El Reg asked Do you know him, do you know who he works for | 20:02 |
| mungbean | i was reading hte metro version | 20:02 |
| mungbean | he could commit suicide for such global exposure | 20:03 |
| mungbean | and if he's innocent... | 20:03 |
| popey | what are we talking about? | 20:09 |
| popey | oh, i see | 20:09 |
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| diddledan | I'm failing to see it | 20:12 |
| diddledan | aparently, according to a member of staff: the apple store in basingstoke opened at 8am. they'd sold out of iphone 5s at approximately 8am | 20:14 |
| zleap | http://www.forbes.com/sites/rajsabhlok/2013/09/20/microsoft-kill-shots-how-ibmlinux-deals-the-latest-blow-to-redmond-empire/#%21 | 20:16 |
| zleap | IBM investing 1 billion in to Linux | 20:16 |
| popey | someone from IBM emailed me about that today | 20:21 |
| shauno | it's kinda funny. msft went from being enemy #1 to being pretty much nobody, without the battle we all waited for ever happening. they simply rarely cross my thoughts anymore | 20:28 |
| diddledan | lmao, just found the paul lovell article | 20:28 |
| diddledan | "You can carry a sword that’s less than two and a half feet long, so you could walk about with a short broadsword, and you can also have anything that doesn’t remote detonate, so a grenade launcher’s fine too." | 20:33 |
| diddledan | gotta love seattle | 20:34 |
| zleap | popey, cool, sounds good eh | 20:35 |
| zleap | what we need now is some investment in training | 20:35 |
| diddledan | does ibm say what kind of stuff they'll be investing the 1bn towards? | 20:35 |
| diddledan | I'm assuming open or libre office will receive a large amount | 20:36 |
| diddledan | either cash or via development time | 20:36 |
| zleap | i got the impression it was for the server side of things mainly | 20:37 |
| diddledan | maybe improvements to samba then | 20:37 |
| popey | I'll find out soon. | 20:37 |
| DJones | Wonder if IBM would think about getting into the mobile (ubuntu) phone market :) | 20:44 |
| AlanBell | $32M could do it :) | 20:59 |
| bigcalm | Guys guys guys! | 21:01 |
| popey | hmm? | 21:02 |
| bigcalm | When shall we three meet once more? | 21:02 |
| AlanBell | tomorrow \o/ | 21:02 |
| bigcalm | I don't really remember when we met up last time | 21:02 |
| popey | the pub next to the station | 21:02 |
| popey | the nice burgers | 21:02 |
| AlanBell | the Mulbury | 21:02 |
| bigcalm | Burgers at the pub station thingy? | 21:02 |
| bigcalm | Yus | 21:02 |
| AlanBell | we could do that again | 21:03 |
| bigcalm | Eating before beering is a good thing | 21:03 |
| popey | what time? | 21:03 |
| bigcalm | 4/5? | 21:03 |
| bigcalm | When's the train? | 21:03 |
| bigcalm | 19:20 | 21:04 |
| AlanBell | that is the train in Alton though | 21:04 |
| AlanBell | I believe the one you missed last time was the 17:56 ;) | 21:05 |
| bigcalm | :P | 21:05 |
| bigcalm | 18:26 -> 18:39 | 21:06 |
| bigcalm | or | 21:06 |
| bigcalm | 18:56 -> 19:10 | 21:06 |
| bigcalm | Better to aim for the 1st one | 21:06 |
| bigcalm | Get good seats | 21:06 |
| AlanBell | ah, maybe it was the 18:39 you missed | 21:06 |
| bigcalm | This time we'll not queue for tickets and just board the train | 21:07 |
| bigcalm | So, working backwards | 21:07 |
| bigcalm | 4/5? | 21:07 |
| bigcalm | I should check what time I can book into the hotel | 21:08 |
| bigcalm | s/book/check/ | 21:08 |
| AlanBell | yeah, something like that | 21:08 |
| * bigcalm googles for farnham swingers hotel | 21:08 | |
| bigcalm | Haha, 1st result | 21:09 |
| bigcalm | 3pm, so we'll be around from then | 21:20 |
| bigcalm | You guys have my mobile number, right? | 21:20 |
| bigcalm | Well, I guess email will work just as well | 21:22 |
| bigcalm | Time for bed. Bloody long drive for me in the morning | 21:22 |
| AlanBell | bigcalm: get ticket, then go to pub :) | 22:31 |
| diddledan | does anybody have any insider knowledge on the likelihood of google releasing a new phone anytime soon? | 23:15 |
| diddledan | aah rumours say octember | 23:17 |
| linuxliam | i keep experincing random wireless disconnections no idea why as i've replaced the router | 23:18 |
| ali1234 | because wireless is rubbish | 23:19 |
| diddledan | wired is where it's at! | 23:19 |
| diddledan | preferably with string | 23:19 |
| ali1234 | that mark shuttleworth beer ad looks really weird... | 23:50 |
| diddledan | o_O | 23:50 |
| ali1234 | like they've shrunk his face | 23:50 |
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