[00:00] <reisio> ggherdov: technically
[00:00] <reisio> ggherdov: the same format
[00:01] <ggherdov> reisio: ok thanks
[00:01] <loadid_czech> ubuntu repositories are managed by cononical and debian is managed by debian* is the difference i think
[00:01] <jrib> !packaging | ggherdov
[00:01] <ggherdov> ah jrib that -is- helpful
[00:03] <d1g1talph3r3t> I am using Ubuntu 12.04.  KDM nor GDM is coming up during boot.  How Do I fix this?  I am connecting via terminal.
[00:05] <loadid_czech> d1g1talph3r3t: maybe video card driver issues? try booting with the nomodeset option?
[00:06] <zykotick9> d1g1talph3r3t: fyi, ubuntu uses lightdm by default...
[00:08] <d1g1talph3r3t> loadid_czech - there is nothing wrong with my video card.  Is lightdm the default display manager in Ubuntu 12.04 LTS?
[00:08] <loadid_czech> yes d1g1talph3r3t
[00:08] <loadid_czech> like zykotick9 said
[00:08] <d1g1talph3r3t> okay.
[00:08] <Console> Hey everyone, I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 on my desktop and laptop. My laptop has the option for a partial upgrade and I have refusing it so I don't break anything and can't afford any downtime. Unfortunately it's been like this for weeks and the amount of legit updates keep on piling up. What do you suggest is the best plan of action to move forward?
[00:09] <loadid_czech> hand select updates using the package manager Console
[00:10] <loadid_czech> disable the restricted repositories, update you sources list and upgrade using on the basics
[00:10] <zykotick9> Console: i wouldn't think you'd get "partial" upgrades, if you are using the default repo...  work-around, "aptitude safe-upgrade" might be able to install what "can" be installed?
[00:16] <xatr0z> or apt-get install <packages you want to upgrade>
[00:17] <Console> The only items that won't update via package manager include files related to Apache2, php5, json library, and generic linux kernal, headers, and image.
[00:21] <JBair> can someone help me get the icons that close windows and get to minimize windows , be on top off the menu
[00:22] <jrib> Console: pastebin actual input and output instead of stating the issue in your won words
[00:24] <Console> jrib: For sure, is there a command that would be helpful to accurately display what packages are not going to be upgraded?
[00:27] <jrib> Console: does the one you are running not tell you that?
[00:28] <Console> I'm just looking at it through the package manager.
[00:29] <jrib> Console: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade   will run an upgrade for you
[00:29] <MicroMega> hola compañeros
[00:30] <reisio> hola
[00:30] <loadid_czech> come estas
[00:30] <loadid_czech> como*
[00:30] <MicroMega> bien muchas gracias, y tu? hey tengo que reinstalar so y pido descargar la version de 64 bits pero igual me tira la i386
[00:31] <loadid_czech> there's no y in tortilla
[00:31] <MicroMega> juaja tortilla?
[00:32] <loadid_czech> winamp, it really kicks the llamas ass!
[00:32] <MicroMega> ah ok.. i enter in a wrong channel sorry
[00:35] <rgreen> i have a question that i cant seem to find an answer to. I have ubuntu 12.04 installed on my macbook pro, the macbook doesnt have the rEFI bootloader installed so I cant make a bootable usb drive, i have disks burned but i cant boot those either. is there anyway to update ubuntu without booting from another image?
[00:36] <loadid_czech> rgreen: apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:37] <rgreen> will that bring the new kernel with it also?
[00:37] <loadid_czech> that's how to upgrade the kernel
[00:37] <MicroMega> i was saying that i need to reinstall os and i trying to download de 64b version but i cant i mean, begin the i386 anyway, can i do something?
[00:37] <rgreen> ah ok
[00:37] <loadid_czech> i don't understand your question MicroMega
[00:38] <MicroMega> in the ubuntu url the download for os 12.04 version of 64Bits
[00:38] <MicroMega> i cant it start the i386
[00:39] <MicroMega> sorry for my english
[00:39] <loadid_czech> do you want to download the 64 or 32 bit version MicroMega?
[00:39] <MicroMega> the 64
[00:39] <reisio> MicroMega: http://mirror.cpsc.ucalgary.ca/mirror/ubuntu.com/releases/
[00:40] <MicroMega> let see
[00:40] <loadid_czech> let's see*
[00:40] <MicroMega> haha ok sorry
[00:40] <MicroMega> and thanks
[00:40] <loadid_czech> no need for appologies, just letting you know
[00:41] <MicroMega> perfect! thank a lot!
[00:41] <MicroMega> thanks
[00:41] <MicroMega> *
[00:41] <rgreen> when i dp apt-get dist-upgrade it says there is no upgrade, but i am only on 12.04
[00:42] <tech1337> Hi all, has anyone here studied software engineering before? I am a long time nix user looking for some apps that could help my studies at uni. All the online sources seem to quote is the best known crap.
[00:42] <loadid_czech> ohhh.. 12.04 is LTS, can only upgrade to the next LTS
[00:42] <bejker> LTS what that mean?
[00:42] <reisio> tech1337: studies?
[00:42] <zykotick9> !lts | bejker
[00:42] <tech1337> Long Term Support
[00:42] <loadid_czech> long term support
[00:43] <bejker> ok
[00:43] <rgreen> its impossible to upgrade to 13.04 from 12.04?
[00:44] <bejker> so 12.04 is current, is beter to reinstal ubuntu to get higher version or stay with 12.04?
[00:44] <Daekdroom> rgreen, you can go 12.10 then 13.04
[00:44] <tech1337> Yeah, I am an adult learner entering University (british uni) and am looking for good software that can help a student that is studying Software Engineering (me)
[00:44] <chaotic_good> how do I restart networking on ubunut?
[00:44] <reisio> tech1337: like... interpreters and compilers?
[00:44] <chaotic_good> I updated my gateway in network files
[00:44] <rgreen> ok, sorry for my lack of knowledge, what command do i use to get to 12.10?
[00:45] <bejker> chaotic_good:  ifconfig eth0 down && ifconfig eth0 up
[00:45] <arayaq> rgreen: apt-get dist-upgrade, i think
[00:45] <tech1337> Nah, I am doing a shed load of C++ and have Mono, more like time management, schedule etc.
[00:45] <rgreen> i tried that but it didnt update anything
[00:45] <loadid_czech> something around "ifup wlan0" chaotic_good
[00:46] <loadid_czech> rgreen: you can sometimes edit the sources.list file to the 12.10 repositories and update && upgrade that way... probably not always stable though
[00:46] <tech1337> you would have to install 12.10. I think you can upgrade from disk, but dist-upgrade wont work on LTSs
[00:46] <petey> hi everyone, ive got a question about an external hard drive with broken permissions
[00:47] <tech1337> @petey what's happened?
[00:47] <bejker> what u mean broken permissions? petey?
[00:47] <petey> its HFS+ journaled for a mac, and right now it will not mount at all
[00:47] <rgreen> unfortunately i cannot use a disk to upgrade, any other options?
[00:47] <petey> ive got an ubuntu distro on my desktop
[00:47] <petey> i was wondering if i could fix permissions by throwing it into my desktop and trying to see what happens
[00:47] <loadid_czech> why can't you use a disk rgreen
[00:47] <client> Hallo Warld
[00:47] <tech1337> oh hfs is a bitch petey.
[00:47] <wylde> rgreen: sudo do-release-upgrade
[00:48] <petey> really, the last thing i want to do is reformat 1TB of stuff over the years
[00:48] <rgreen> becuase my macbook pro bios wont let me boot from anything else
[00:48] <loadid_czech> petey: what errors do you get when you try and mount it
[00:48] <wylde> rgreen: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes
[00:48] <zykotick9> !u | bejker
[00:48] <client> I would like to know how does 1 share downloaded updates between 2 linux systems? I don't want to waste time re-downloading over 100mbs of data
[00:48] <tech1337> I tried accessing a damaged disk (OSX) for data recovery, it didn't end well and I was unable to access it without a mac...
[00:48] <bejker> zykotick9: ?
[00:48] <loadid_czech> i thought you could boot macs from disk just sometimes not from usb rgreen
[00:48] <harris> how do i find out what wifi card i have
[00:49] <zykotick9> client: check out apt-cacher-ng
[00:49] <rgreen> well i have a disk of fedora 18 64bit and it wont boot
[00:49] <client> is that a piece of software? zykotick9
[00:49] <zykotick9> bejker: s/what u mean/what you mean/
[00:49] <zykotick9> client: yes
[00:49] <petey> when i try mounting it on my mac it just wont mount
[00:49] <petey> i cant fix permissions
[00:49] <loadid_czech> harris: lspci
[00:49] <bejker> sorry :) is faster write u than you
[00:50] <client> is there no way possible to simply pull files from 1 linux system to the other?
[00:50] <petey> verifying/repairing permissions doesn't do anything
[00:50] <whowhat> Anybody familiar with nethogs? I've had some suspicious activity over my network and can't track down where it's coming from, but nethogs confirms the suspicious activity. One of the things that's happening is that I'm sending or receiving data (not sure which) via a "PROGRAM" through root user, and I see it like this: 192.168.0.3:xxxxx-192.168.0.1:80, and the "xxxxx" is a number which is increasing every second or so by one. currently
[00:50] <whowhat> it's at 43175
[00:50] <loadid_czech> client: i don't understand your question
[00:50] <zykotick9> client: copy /var/cache/apt/archives/ from one system to another
[00:50] <loadid_czech> whowhat: sounds like a port scan
[00:51] <loadid_czech> port 80 is printer port?
[00:51] <client> loadid_czech which question? The last 1 or my initial question?
[00:51] <loadid_czech> port 80 is http??
[00:51] <loadid_czech> client: about pulling files
[00:52] <loadid_czech> and the initial one, didn't catch that one client
[00:52] <client> oh loadid_czech I was thinking that there may exist a way to share updates I've already downloaded to another computer running the same OS
[00:52] <client> I'm running 2 computers with the same linux OS
[00:53] <client> I download updates to 1 computer and would like to share those updates with the other computer.
[00:53] <whowhat> loadid_czech: I just ran rootkit checkers and couldn't find anything. and nothing stands out in service list or top
[00:53] <bejker> client:  i dont think you can share updates with other PC
[00:53] <rgreen> you could use nfs client
[00:53] <loadid_czech> dpkg --get-selections >> /path/to/file/name then use that file to dpkg --set-selections /path/to/file/from/other/computer or something
[00:53] <zykotick9> client: copy /var/cache/apt/archives/ from one system to another
[00:53] <rgreen> or use something like puppet or chef
[00:54] <loa> jrib, found this http://old-releases.ubuntu.com ^_^
[00:56] <client> its weird, theres no search results for this type of problem either. surely there are people updating multiple linux distros at once.
[00:57] <fahadash> client, you mean SUS ?
[00:57] <loa> client, you can make nfs at /var/cache/apt/archives/
[00:57] <client> what is SUS?
[00:57] <loa> and mount on other computer
[00:58] <client> loa will this affect any user data?
[00:58] <client> the nfs solution sounds like it overwrites everything
[00:58] <zykotick9> loa: personally, i'd say apt-cacher-ng is cooler then nfs exporting archives ;)
[00:59] <whowhat> loaded_czech: So I realized that it happens whenever I have my router settings page open in my web browser. Any idea where I can get more info on this?
[00:59] <client> zykotick9 I checked it out but that requires a server and I'm not yet at the server point.
[00:59] <whowhat> loadid_czech: So I realized that it happens whenever I have my router settings page open in my web browser. Any idea where I can get more info on this?
[00:59] <client> or rather, runs best using a server
[00:59]  * loadid_czech non pretentiously says google
[00:59] <lotuspsychje> morning to all
[01:00] <bejker> morning is 3am :D
[01:01] <client> so Poland shares my time-zone
[01:01] <lotuspsychje> im looking for a 12voip alternative for ubuntu, any package hints?
[01:01] <loadid_czech> lotuspsychje: linphone?
[01:01] <bejker> client:  texas?
[01:02] <lotuspsychje> !info linphone
[01:02] <lotuspsychje> loadid_czech: does it work with 12voip settings/accounts?
[01:02] <client> texas? Are you serious buddy?
[01:02] <loadid_czech> i'm not sure what 12voip is
[01:02] <lotuspsychje> loadid_czech: its a win prog for calling foreign countrys
[01:03] <client> is the software called 12voip?
[01:03] <loadid_czech> linphone uses sip protocol, so if 12voip supports sip it may work
[01:03] <lotuspsychje> loadid_czech: tnx mate ill try it
[01:04] <client> Do any of the ubuntu software developers sit here on this forum?
[01:04] <loadid_czech> welshome
[01:04] <kostkon> lotuspsychje, there are a lot of sip apps in the repos
[01:04] <izx> How do i find LDAP certification expiry date?
[01:04] <kostkon> lotuspsychje, even empathy has sip support
[01:05] <lotuspsychje> kostkon: nice tnx! used ever one of them?
[01:05] <loadid_czech> have you ever used*
[01:05] <client> are u sure? bejker
[01:06] <lotuspsychje> loadid_czech: we can discuss freedom of speech in #ubuntu-offtopic...
[01:07] <kostkon> lotuspsychje, yes, ekiga. it used to be a default app in ubuntu
[01:07] <bejker> client:  sorry no geolocalization
[01:07] <kostkon> !info ekiga
[01:08] <lotuspsychje> koston: many tnx to you! ill try it
[01:08] <client> why are you turning purple? bejker
[01:09] <lotuspsychje> !ldap | izx
[01:11] <client> oh, so only I can see what you're sending?
[01:11] <bejker> yes
[01:13] <client> cool
[01:13] <loadid_czech> lotuspsychje: freedom of speech?
[01:15] <client> guess ;)
[01:16] <client> nope
[01:17] <dougiel> how do I vnc into an already running x session?
[01:19] <client> russia aint 1 of them bejker
[01:19] <Guest0231> hola
[01:21] <lotuspsychje> !vnc | dougiel
[01:22] <client> lol
[01:22] <doggy_> hello quelqu'un connait il l'utilisation de torchat
[01:22] <lotuspsychje> !fr | doggy_
[01:22] <bejker> doggy_:  speak english please
[01:23] <doggy_> ok thanks
[01:23] <lotuspsychje> !info torchat
[01:29] <venux> does anybody in here have experience with avant window navigator?
[01:30] <lotuspsychje> venux: best is to ask your issue with it mate
[01:32] <venux> Alright.  So I'm trying to develop a theme for it, right, and I want the background color to be a specific shade of blue, and I can't find out how to set that in the mytheme.awn-theme file.  I've checked other themes and they use some sort of 16 digit hexidecimal color code.  In web design, I've only ever heard of and used 6 digit hex color codes, so I'm not too sure how to generate my color as a 16 digit colo
[01:32] <venux> r code for awn...
[01:33] <aaearon> for eth0, the gateway changed. how do i 'regenerate'the routes i need
[01:33] <lotuspsychje> venux: maybe the dev guys might wanna help you out?
[01:34] <venux> I've sent them an email and haven't heard back yet.  Searched google like you wouldn't believe...  I was hoping I could get the answer tonight
[01:34] <venux> wait did you mean like ubuntu-dev room in xchat?
[01:34] <venux> cuz I sent an email to the project lead of AWN
[01:34] <lotuspsychje> venux: yes there's a dev chat wich i cant remember :p
[01:34] <venux> I'll look for it, thanks
[01:40] <dkeoui> Hi, my WM crashed but I can't los what was (and is, based on ps auf) running.
[01:44] <andreivis> bjbjhbj
[02:09] <joufflu> sup niggas
[02:09] <lotuspsychje> !language | joufflu
[02:10] <joufflu> sup ninjas :X
[02:10] <fahadash> racist
[02:10] <IdleOne> !guidelines >  joufflu
[02:10] <loadid_czech> super ninjas? sounds like a cool gang
[02:11] <IdleOne> Move on please
[02:11] <loadid_czech> but racism is the best kind of comedy!
[02:14] <mojtaba> Hi, I have other windows machine in the LAN, do you know how can I have access to its directories via cmd from ubuntu?
[02:14] <lotuspsychje> mojtaba: are you using samba?
[02:15] <mojtaba> lotuspsychje: I guess I have installed it in my ubuntu before.
[02:15] <sauravtom> " sudo tail -f /dev/input/mouse0  " this should dump recent changes in mouse coordinates on the screen, isn't working, I have also tried with mouse1 and eventX [X=2,3,6]
[02:16] <lotuspsychje> !samba | mojtaba
[02:17] <mojtaba> lotuspsychje: Thank you, I will take a look. Is this the only way?
[02:18] <lotuspsychje> mojtaba: maybe ssh your win machines?
[02:20] <mojtaba> thanks lotuspsychje
[02:21] <loadid_czech> mojtaba: create a symlink that you can navigate to?
[02:27] <setuid> I've got a dwl-122 usb wireless dongle, and I can't find ANY useful information describing how to get this working with Ubuntu
[02:27] <setuid> I'm using a CuBox with Raring running on it
[02:27] <setuid> I see this, with lsusb: Bus 001 Device 002: ID 2001:3700 D-Link Corp. DWL-122 802.11b [Intersil Prism 3]
[02:27] <setuid> Anyone have any pointers or advice here?
[02:28] <lotuspsychje> setuid: what happens after you plugin the device?
[02:28] <setuid> Everything points to this page, and it's useless: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/DWL-122
[02:28] <setuid> lotuspsychje, Nothing
[02:28] <lotuspsychje> setuid: no wifi networks show up?
[02:28] <setuid> the device isn't recognized
[02:28] <setuid> at all
[02:28] <setuid> Because there's no drivers for it
[02:28] <lotuspsychje> setuid: any drivers shown in additional drivers?
[02:29] <setuid> How would I know? What repo do I add to sources.list to get 'additional drivers'?
[02:30] <lotuspsychje> setuid: software&updates/last tab additional drivers
[02:30] <setuid> there's no 'tab' at the cli
[02:30] <wilee-nilee> setuid, I see various links, but usb dongles are so cheap I would get one that plugs and just works.
[02:31] <lotuspsychje> !info rt73
[02:31] <setuid> I tried modprobe rt73, loads fine, doesn't recognize the device
[02:31] <chsados> hey guys, so i'm on 13.04 and have shared a folder on the network but on windows machines it recognize the folder share but says it does not have permissions.
[02:32] <setuid> Looks like the linux-wlan-ng project is dead now too, all links to the page, svn repo, etc. are dead/hosts non-existiant
[02:32] <lotuspsychje> setuid: maybe ndiswrapper?
[02:33] <bl4ckdu5t> It's rear to come across Linux viruses but for security reasons, can someone recommend a Linux AV
[02:33] <wilee-nilee> !av
[02:33] <cfhowlett> *rare*
[02:33] <setuid> # ndiswrapper
[02:33] <setuid> Error: unable to find a version of ndiswrapper!
[02:34] <lotuspsychje> !info clamav | bl4ckdu5t
[02:34] <setuid> That's? less than useful
[02:34] <lotuspsychje> setuid: https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox/+question/23136
[02:34] <lotuspsychje> !security > bl4ckdu5t
[02:35] <lotuspsychje> bl4ckdu5t: snort and rkhunter are usefull too :p
[02:36] <clemtest> anyone know how to get clementine to allow me to transfer non-mp3 files (flac, wma, m4a) to my rockboxed mp3 player?
[02:36] <setuid> # ndiswrapper -i NETPRISM.inf
[02:36] <setuid> Error: unable to find a version of ndiswrapper!
[02:36] <bl4ckdu5t> ok thanks
[02:36] <loadid_czech> setuid: apt-get install ndiswrapper
[02:36] <setuid> did that, also the -dkms
[02:37] <setuid> # dpkg -l | grep ndis | cut -b1-50
[02:37] <setuid> ii  ndiswrapper-common                        1.58
[02:37] <setuid> ii  ndiswrapper-dkms                          1.58
[02:37] <lotuspsychje> setuid: or maybe try a ralink firmware
[02:37] <lotuspsychje> !find ralink
[02:38] <setuid> Installing that now
[02:39] <setuid> Now what?
[02:40] <kostkon> setuid, reboot?
[02:40] <setuid> hahaha
[02:41] <loadid_czech> setuid: use sudo?
[02:41] <loadid_czech> make sure your in the proper directory?
[02:41] <setuid> See above, I'm root, in the right dir
[02:42] <setuid> that's not the issue, looks like ndiswrapper, is a shell script that tests for? ndiswrapper
[02:42] <setuid> it tests for itself
[02:43] <lotuspsychje> setuid: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCardsDlink#USB
[02:44] <lotuspsychje> setuid: check your model on this page mate
[02:44] <setuid> lotuspsychje, Says it's supported with prism2_usb, which doesn't exist, because linux-wlan-ng is a dead project
[02:44] <bl4ckdu5t> I can't make video calls with my Skype! I don't see the option included at all
[02:45] <bl4ckdu5t> How can I enable my webcam and make video calls?
[02:45] <bl4ckdu5t> !skype
[02:45] <deckard_> hello, what is the difference between UXTerm, XFCE Terminal and XTerm?
[02:46] <lotuspsychje> !terminal | deckard_
[02:47]  * setuid is down a rat-hole of building kernel source, so I can build the ndiswrapper source, so I can load the binary d-link module, because NOBODY has figured this out, nor documented it. Sigh. 
[02:47] <deckard_> i see 3 terminal's in appsmenu, system
[02:47] <deckard_> they are all the same?
[02:47] <pmenon> hey, anyone around ? I seem to have two machine names resolve to the same IP
[02:47] <cfhowlett> deckard_, functionally yes.  look / feel may differ
[02:47] <deckard_> ty :)
[02:48] <lotuspsychje> setuid: strange that the url says your usb dongle should 'work out of the box'
[02:48] <lotuspsychje> setuid: you sure its your proper model and not a variant?
[02:49] <setuid> yep
[02:49] <setuid> Bus 001 Device 002: ID 2001:3700 D-Link Corp. DWL-122 802.11b [Intersil Prism 3]
[02:49] <lotuspsychje> setuid: did you clean install 13.04 or upgrade?
[02:50] <setuid> lotuspsychje, Clean install, it's a CuBox, embedded Linux box, about the size of a golf ball (but a cube)
[02:50] <lotuspsychje> setuid: was your dongle attached during install?
[02:51] <setuid> lotuspsychje, nope, wired, the only way to do the install
[02:51] <lotuspsychje> setuid: did you enabled 'download updates during install'?
[02:52] <lotuspsychje> setuid: you might wanna try that with dongle attached aswell?
[02:52] <setuid> try what? I've run 'apt-get update' to current
[02:52] <setuid> and upgraded
[02:53] <setuid> installed linux-wlan-*, ndiswrapper*, linux-firmware* and all related variants
[02:53] <designbybeck___> HP 2000 series Laptop, FInally got Ubuntu 13.04 install, but we had to use "nomodeset" to boot with out going blank....................But now the visual effects and such don't run very smooth. Any suggestions to improve it?
[02:53] <designbybeck___> The Intel HD4000 graphics
[02:54] <blankley> designbybeck__ you can try the xorg-edgers PPA for bleeding edge graphics drivers for intel chips
[02:54] <lotuspsychje> setuid: try ndiswrapper first to load your win inf for wifi card, if that doesnt work i would reinstall clean with dongle attached
[02:54] <setuid> lotuspsychje, problem is that ndiswrapper doesn't actually include? ndiswrapper.
[02:54] <designbybeck___> hmmm blankley have you tried those out?
[02:55] <setuid> You have to build it from source, and there is no configured kernel source available for the kernel that is running
[02:56] <blankley> designbybeck I have a Toshiba laptop that runs them 24/7, and it's got an intel chip even older than that. It seems I lose a little stability, but that may also be because this laptop is from 2007
[02:56] <setuid> # /sbin/modinfo -F parm ndiswrapper
[02:56] <setuid> ERROR: Module ndiswrapper not found.
[02:56] <lotuspsychje> !info rt73usb
[02:56] <lotuspsychje> setuid: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Driver/Ndiswrapper?highlight=%28ManufacturerModel%29
[02:57] <wilee-nilee> designbybeck___, you might look through here. http://askubuntu.com/search?q=13.04++HD4000
[02:57] <blankley> the xorg-edgers PPA did help me a lot with Steam games
[02:57] <setuid> Unable to locate package ndisgtk
[02:57] <setuid> not in raring, apparently
[02:58] <designbybeck___> thank ou wilee-nilee and blankley ... Most things seemed ok, but things like the Unity Switch Screens and such were really slow!
[02:58] <lotuspsychje> !info ndisgtk | setuid
[02:58] <designbybeck___> I'll have him try what you listed
[02:58] <setuid> Processor	: ARMv7 Processor rev 5 (v7l)
[02:58] <setuid> So not available in raring, for this arch
[02:59] <setuid> dead ends everywhere
[02:59] <lotuspsychje> !arm | setuid
[02:59] <Sivik> anyone know why when I am watching a video from a browser like firefox/chrome in full screen, why when I click on another windows, it drops the full screen video back into the browser standard size?
[03:00] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys if i enable ssh keys on a machine and then try to login on the actual machine would it keep giving me login incorrect? if i set so you cannot login with password on ssh and only through keys
[03:00] <cfhowlett> Sivik, browser preference settings ...
[03:00] <setuid> Psil0Cybin, no
[03:00] <Sivik> cfhowlett, in firefox, do you know what setting that is?
[03:00] <setuid> Psil0Cybin, local console logins have nothing to do with your ssh config
[03:00] <cfhowlett> Sivik, no idea, osrry
[03:00] <Psil0Cybin> so why would local console logins tell me incorrect password
[03:01] <Psil0Cybin> even though i ssh into my terminal and do sudo passwd
[03:01] <Psil0Cybin> and change the password and still it doesnt work
[03:01] <setuid> Are you trying to log in as root?
[03:01] <Psil0Cybin> nope
[03:01] <setuid> did you fill up the disk?
[03:01] <Psil0Cybin> regular user
[03:01] <Psil0Cybin> isnt that wierd
[03:01] <setuid> Is /tmp/ set to 1777?
[03:02] <setuid> Is your ~/.ssh/ directory permissions set to 0600?
[03:02] <Psil0Cybin> how can i check?
[03:02] <Psil0Cybin> ill let you know because i can ssh into it perfectly fine
[03:02] <Psil0Cybin> just cant log in locally lol
[03:02] <setuid> Check the logs
[03:03] <lotuspsychje> setuid: did your cubox have 10.04 installed by default?
[03:03] <setuid> lotuspsychje, It had lucid, I think
[03:03] <sf> o yeah
[03:04] <setuid> I grabbed the CuBox Installer, and grabbed the latest Ubuntu available upstream
[03:04] <setuid> It's in the Installer's menus, along with ~8 or so other distros for the device
[03:04] <lotuspsychje> ic
[03:05] <lotuspsychje> setuid: well if it was me, i would try a clean install with usb wifi dongle plugged in during setup
[03:05] <lotuspsychje> setuid: and see if ubuntu picks up the driver properly
[03:05] <setuid> Interesting idea, I'll give that a go. I doubt it will make a differnce, if it requires ndiswrapper, and there's no ndiswrapper for this architecture
[03:06] <setuid> Looks like I'm limited to a few named dongles: http://www.solid-run.com/mw/index.php/Accessories#WiFi_USB_Dongles
[03:06] <Sivik> anyone know where to set firefox to not exit fullscreen when in video when you click on a different window?
[03:06] <lotuspsychje> setuid: the dwl-122 page says it should work out of the box driver
[03:07] <setuid> lotuspsychje, but -which- driver? I've tried rt73 and it does nothing. Claims prism2_usb works, but that driver hasn't existted for ages.
[03:07] <setuid> and the project supporting it, is dead, no source available to build
[03:07] <lotuspsychje> !info prism2_usb
[03:07] <setuid> and without -configured- kernel source for this kernel, it's a no-op
[03:07] <setuid> prism2_usb is in linux-wlan-ng
[03:09] <lotuspsychje> setuid: not sure mate, i see alot of forums pickup a ralink firmware for your device
[03:10] <Sivik> cfhowlett, I found a way around it.  I had hulu pop out the video and then told it to full screen with f11
[03:10] <Psil0Cybin> figured it out setuid it was on raspbian for raspberry pi so they use a different keyboard
[03:10] <Sivik> and now it stays
[03:10] <Psil0Cybin> just figured it out
[03:10] <Psil0Cybin> thank you so much for trying it was my stupidity
[03:10] <setuid> nada
[03:10] <setuid> # apt-file search ralink
[03:10] <setuid> linux-firmware: /usr/share/doc/linux-firmware/licenses/LICENCE.ralink-firmware.txt
[03:10] <setuid> The only file in all of Raring, every package, is that license file
[03:10] <setuid> so another dead-end
[03:14] <bjoswald> Does anyone know why nvidia-settings crashes after closing on Ubuntu 12.04?
[03:16] <blackmatrix_ny> hey folks...How to ungroup windows in a simple way. I want to alt-tab through each individual window. The suggested ways for compiz tweak did not work for me.
[03:16] <ldlework> is there a something.d/ for bashrc like there is for profile.d/ ?!
[03:17] <energizer1> Having trouble networking. My MAC address in the router's DHCP table differs from the HWaddr in "ifconfig". Help?
[03:21] <setuid> blech, looks like I'm going to scrap this
[03:21] <lotuspsychje> setuid: your router got AES on?
[03:22] <setuid> Sure, why?
[03:22] <setuid> Both of them do
[03:22] <lotuspsychje> setuid: just readed your device likes tkip and aes
[03:22] <setuid> Yes
[03:23] <lotuspsychje> setuid: i would go for the clean install
[03:27] <lotuspsychje> !info linux-wlan-ng
[03:29] <rscnt> who need helpp!!!!
[03:29] <rscnt> ?
[03:30] <lotuspsychje> setuid: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/Device/DWL-122
[03:35] <majorman> using nmap on my ddns it says my ssh port is filtered. then when i run nmap on the local ip the ssh port is open. with the port filtered i cannot remote into the machine external of my network. how can i fix this?
[03:36] <zdot> so.
[03:37] <zdot> ubuntu failed to shutdown using the gui yesterday.
[03:37] <zdot> this is unacceptable.
[03:38] <wilee-nilee> zdot, really, why are you saying this to us volunteers?
[03:38] <zdot> well, at least there is a place to complain.
[03:39] <wilee-nilee> zdot, This is support, not complaints, however we all have been frustrated at one time. ;)
[03:39] <setuid> lotuspsychje, Useless page, it's back to ndiswrapper, which doesn't work on non-x86
[03:40] <zdot> wilee-nilee: yes, the support, a ferfect place to complain.
[03:40] <bwayne> zdot: your refund is in the mail
[03:40] <zdot> lol
[03:41] <rscnt> ban!
[03:41] <zdot> rscnt: pardon?
[03:42] <bwayne> zdot: how about just telling us what did happen? did nothing happen? or what?
[03:42] <rscnt> zdot: hi
[03:42] <rscnt> zdot: why you don't tell us all your history
[03:43] <cfhowlett> !details|zdot,
[03:43] <zdot> bwayne: well, it just displayed a window warning me about closing all the apps and failed to shutdown lol
[03:44] <rscnt> ...
[03:45] <zdot> i had to do halt -p
[03:46] <rscnt> good for u
[03:46] <bwayne> zdot: it could be that one of the apps didn't shutdown. try 'sudo shutdown -r now' and you should see a more verbose output.
[03:47] <zdot> it might be.
[03:50] <bwayne> zdot: it might also be worth checking out the log files in /var/log. perhaps kern.log.
[03:51] <zdot> next time.
[03:51] <zdot> i have the box turned off atm.
[03:51] <bwayne> zdot: just don't reboot. this is linux.
[03:51] <zdot> no sh*t.
[03:52] <root______> unless you're installing a new kernel
[03:52] <bwayne> be a man. hotpatch it.
[03:52] <zdot> afaik this is impossible in linux.
[03:53] <zdot> !channels
[03:53] <rscnt> !alis
[03:55] <bwayne> zdot: look into ksplice
[03:55] <zdot> lol? a nonfree app that enbles it?
[03:55] <zdot> blasphemy.
[03:56]  * zdot watches stallman convulse
[03:57]  * rscnt see zdot beign kicked
[03:57] <bwayne> zdot: okay. if gplv2 isn't good enough to be considered free, you're delusional. i hereby label you troll. get off my island.
[03:58] <zdot> pardon?
[03:58] <rscnt> zdot: you're trolling, please gtfo.
[03:59] <zdot> !ops
[03:59] <IdleOne> rscnt: please mind your language
[03:59] <IdleOne> zdot: Play elsewhere
[04:00] <zdot> what?
[04:00] <zdot> so, i'm not allowed to discuss here?
[04:00] <zdot> wtf is wrong with you people.
[04:00] <IdleOne> this is a support channel, not a chat channel
[04:01] <cfhowlett> !language|zdot,
[04:01] <zdot> what about this: 05:57 < bwayne> zdot: okay. if gplv2 isn't good enough to be considered free, you're delusional. i hereby label you troll. get off my island.
[04:02] <rscnt> !ops
[04:02] <cfhowlett> !topic > zdot,
[04:03] <IdleOne> rscnt: give it a rest please, we are watching
[04:03] <rscnt> oh sorry.
[04:05] <bwayne> zdot: i was actually trying to help you. you couldn't reboot. I offered you a way to figure out why. Then I suggested a way to go without rebooting altogether. Your responses led me to believe you're not interested in being helped.
[04:05] <zdot> i was not able to shutdown not reboot with gui. i had to halt -p. that's all
[04:05] <zdot> bbl
[04:06] <Ben64> zdot: as its been said, this is a support channel, not a complaining channel or ranting channel
[04:06] <mojtaba1> Hi, If I need to have access to my c$ in windows from ubuntu cmd, do I need to use samba?
[04:06] <zdot> well, isn't reporting a bug a reason to tell on a support channerl>?
[04:07] <rscnt> mojtaba1: no, ntfs-3g
[04:07] <zdot> because i find it a bug hence it's a function that doesnt work.
[04:07] <Ben64> zdot: then go report a bug, complaining here does nothing
[04:07] <rscnt> mojtaba1: if c$ => C:\ ?
[04:07] <zdot> i just did.
[04:07] <mojtaba1> rscnt: How can I access to my c:\ windows in a LAN?
[04:07] <zdot> mojtaba1: samba
[04:08] <rscnt> motjaba1: oh, that then samba.
[04:08] <Ben64> zdot: you realize that complaining here is not the same as reporting a bug
[04:08] <acerimmer> !bugzdot,
[04:08] <acerimmer> !bug|zdot,
[04:08] <mojtaba1> zdot: Do you know what should I do with samba? I have installed it already
[04:08] <zdot> stop highlighting me without a solid reason.
[04:09] <lotuspsychje> oO
[04:09] <zdot> mojtaba1: you have to edit /etc/smb/smb.conf
[04:09] <rscnt> mojtaba1: exactly.
[04:09] <zdot> mojtaba1: then restart the service
[04:09] <zdot> i advice you to have a read about it
[04:09] <Ben64> zdot: don't use this channel for rants and complaining then. if you have a problem, describe it and ask about it here. saying "ubuntu wont shut down, this is unacceptable" is not on topic
[04:09] <lotuspsychje> mojtaba1: ive already triggered you samba info
[04:09] <acerimmer> *advise*
[04:10] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys if i used my ubuntu box to hot a webserver so i installed nginx, php5, mysql but i decided i dont really need that stuff anymore whats the best way to uninstall all those and to get rid of configure files
[04:10] <mojtaba1> lotuspsychje: yes, but I need it now. The manual is very detailed and I do not know from where should I start!
[04:10] <Ben64> Psil0Cybin: sudo apt-get purge <package>
[04:10] <acerimmer> Psil0Cybin, sudo apt-get purge foo.deb
[04:10] <zdot> Ben64: dude, chill out
[04:11] <lotuspsychje> zdot: dont tell others what to do, chill yourself
[04:11] <zdot> lotuspsychje: don't tell ME what to do then
[04:11] <IdleOne> Everybody relax. I got this.
[04:11] <IdleOne> zdot: go get your smokes and please drop it.
[04:12] <mojtaba1> zdot: rscnt: do you know what should I do in that file?
[04:12] <rscnt> woah, this is frustanting
[04:12] <zdot> mojtaba1: yes, add a samba share entry and perhaps change security model
[04:13] <zdot> mojtaba1: otherwise you'll have to add a samba password
[04:13] <mojtaba1> zdot: Could you please tell me where should I add that?
[04:13] <zdot> zdot: at the end of the file
[04:13] <zdot> you got examples there.
[04:13] <zdot> mojtaba1: ^
[04:14] <zdot> IdleOne: why are you telling this to ME instead of all the people that started molesting me here?
[04:15] <acerimmer> !
[04:15] <IdleOne> zdot: I am asking you to drop it. everybody else here already knows me and I don't need to tell them.
[04:15] <lotuspsychje> mojtaba1: maybe this tutorial is usefull for you: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=202605
[04:16] <mojtaba1> zdot: rscnt: lotuspsychje: Thank you
[04:17] <zdot> i'm not sure what should i drop now.
[04:17] <zdot> anyways, bbl.
[04:21] <lotuspsychje> is there a language learning package like talk now! for ubuntu?
[04:22] <acerimmer> lotuspsychje, to learn a foreign language?  like pimsleur?
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> ive used talk now! under wine long time ago
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> !infi pimsleur
[04:22] <lotuspsychje> !info pimsleur
[04:23] <acerimmer> lotuspsychje, no package sorry.  mp3's ... I ripped the China cd's before I came to Beijing ...
[04:23] <lotuspsychje> acerimmer: ic, im looking for something interactive :p
[04:24] <lotuspsychje> tnx anyway
[04:46] <lotuspsychje> how can i open an .mdb access file in libreoffice?
[04:50] <acerimmer> lotuspsychje, you need the libreoffice database program IINM
[04:51] <acerimmer> Libre Office Base
[04:51] <lotuspsychje> acerimmer: download from inside libreoffice?
[04:52] <acerimmer> lotuspsychje, I think/thought it's included in the libreoffice package, so ... yes.  But check that you don't already have it.
[04:52] <lotuspsychje> acerimmer: ok tnx for the hint mate lemme find that
[04:54] <rscnt> im banned from ubuntu-offtopic
[04:54] <rscnt> there's something i can do?
[04:55] <kostkon> rscnt, #ubuntu-ops
[04:55] <kostkon> rscnt, ask there
[04:57] <rscnt> k
[05:17] <lotuspsychje> acerimmer: software centre showed me libreoffice base and mdb viewer tnx!
[05:20] <acerimmer> lotuspsychje, no problem.  have fun, be safe
[05:28] <vmussa> hello everyone, I'm on a Samsung Series 5 Ultra ultrabook, which after some research on the web, I found out that has some issues related to booting ubuntu being even possible to brick the laptop on a simply live USB boot
[05:29] <vmussa> but my question is, if I use wubi, what are the chances that it could brick my laptop?
[05:30] <acerimmer> vmussa, the issue you refer to was fixed with the updated kernel.  I suggest you consider 12.04 LongTermSupport.  As for wubi ... not on my WORST day.
[05:31] <vmussa> acerimmer, haha, so if I download the 12.04 LTS version in ubuntu's website it will come with the updated kernel for sure?
[05:31] <acerimmer> vmussa, That's my understanding.  Run the live session to verify.
[05:33] <AcidRain2012> it is possible to brick a laptop?
[05:33] <AcidRain2012> i thought that was only with apple devices
[05:34] <acerimmer> AcidRain2012, apparently it is.  that samsung kernel was especially nasty thus the fast track repair.
[05:34] <acerimmer> *NOT really samsung's fault*
[05:34] <AcidRain2012> acerimmer, hmmm.... thats crazy. not sure if i believe it or not.
[05:35] <acerimmer> don't want to leave the wrong impression.  I'm not fully informed on the tech aspects, but it seems the kernel and UEFI had a hard time co-existing on Samsung's platform
[05:35] <acerimmer> AcidRain2012, google brick and ubuntu ...
[05:36] <vmussa> acerimmer, thank you for the support, I will continue reading about it
[05:36] <acerimmer> vmussa, best of luck to you
[05:41] <vmussa> acerimmer, AcidRain2012, there is a blog post from Mathew Garrett's blog titled "Dealing with UEFI non-volatile memory quirks" which explains a little bit the problem and introduces a patch which could possibly fix the problem
[05:42] <SupaSol> bien le bonjour par ici :)
[05:42] <SupaSol> Ho sorry, hello here :p
[05:42] <acerimmer> vmussa, as I stated, that patch was later rolled into the standard kernel.
[05:43] <dharmaturtle> Dumb question, why does "ls | grep .{10,}" not return anything? I'm looking for filenames longer than 10 chars.
[05:43] <vmussa> acerimmer, I see. But since he doesn't say for sure if the problem is fixed, I'm not sure about trying to boot ubuntu yet :(
[05:43] <SwedeMike> dharmaturtle: use egrep instead?
[05:44] <dharmaturtle> "ls | egrep .{10,}" doesn't return anything either :(
[05:44] <acerimmer> vmussa, note: it's a linux kernel issue, not just ubuntu.  but to avoid such, you could install virtualbox in windows and install ubuntu inside the box.  no risk to your lappy that way.
[05:44] <SwedeMike> dharmaturtle: ls | egrep '.{10,}' works for me
[05:45] <dharmaturtle> ohh... I need to enclose it in quotes
[05:45]  * dharmaturtle feels silly
[05:45] <dharmaturtle> thank you :D
[05:45] <SwedeMike> np.
[05:46] <vmussa> acerimmer, oh I see. What about wubi?
[05:46] <acerimmer> vmussa, how do I say this gently?  not no but HELL no!  (imho)
[05:47] <vmussa> haha! Why?
[05:47] <insanity67> hello together!
[05:47] <vmussa> Is it slow?
[05:47] <acerimmer> vmussa, in tech terms, wubi mimics a windows app, BUT it also fritz with your boot so ... lots of unhappy campers with wubi.  with virtualbox, not so many
[05:49] <acerimmer> vmussa, and I say this as a one-time wubi user.  Compared to Virtualbox?  VB wins hands down.
[05:50] <vmussa> acerimmer, I get it. I guess I will think better about it then. Just will make sure it can't be bricked with VB haha
[05:51] <acerimmer> vmussa, never heard of a VB doing anything so drastic.
[05:51] <audrey> any reason why startx to use an alternate window manager always gives me a black screen?
[05:52] <vmussa> acerimmer, in fact I have a friend who has a similar samsung ultrabook running ubuntu, but since it is not exactly the same model I'm not sure about installing it
[05:53] <acerimmer> vmussa, go with the VB.  Also, depending on your warranty, you MIGHT be able to RMA the lappy if the worst should happen.
[05:55] <vmussa> acerimmer, that's true, I will get info about the warranty!
[05:56] <acerimmer> vmussa, you won't be the first.
[05:56] <Guest65934> what kind of laptop?
[05:58] <vmussa> Guest65934, Samsung Series 5 Ultra
[06:04] <AcidRain2012> why are files sometimes created with ~ at the end of it
[06:04] <AcidRain2012> ill have 2 of each file. 1 with a ~
[06:04] <Guest65934> Nice laptop, I dont think they can void your warranty for installing software thats what it's meant for, an os is jest software
[06:05] <Guest65934> you can redownload windows ISO's for free from MS you jest need to use you oem key on back of you laptop to install it
[06:06] <xmetal> i cant speek for everywhere, but when I installed Linux on my new laptop and the hdd died (linux not the cause, OBVIOUSLY ... just in case anyone thinks i am saying thats why it failed) ... they still honored the warrenty
[06:06] <xmetal> speak *
[06:07] <AcidRain2012> Guest65934, and i been searching for windows cracks this whole time. didnt know you could just download it for free :D
[06:09] <xmetal> hmm i should (i have my own license, but the cd may not be good) get the xp iso and try to slipstream it again
[06:09] <Guest65934> lol no need for windows cracks, all you use to install is you oem key off the sticker on your laptop,  give me a sec I will find you the download link
[06:09] <xmetal> wait .. if ... oh n/m wrong channel?
[06:10] <vmussa> acerimmer, thanks again for the support, I'll get some sleep now, bye!
[06:10] <AcidRain2012> well i have no desire to run windows :p
[06:10] <acerimmer> vmussa, have fun, be safe
[06:10] <AcidRain2012> vmussa, be safe now. internet is a violent place ;)
[06:13] <Guest65934> heres the link it's legit  http://techpp.com/2009/11/11/download-windows-7-iso-official-direct-download-links/
[06:13] <zdot> 54so guys
[06:13] <zdot> so guys
[06:13] <zdot> i find unity bit annoying in one matter
[06:14] <acerimmer> zdot, don't like unity?  logout.  choose an alternate desktop environment.  login.  done.
[06:14] <Guest65934> it's for windows 7 if you have win 8 im not sure what to do
[06:14] <zdot> i mean, the tray apps wont show their windows when i click their icons in the tray
[06:14] <zdot> acerimmer: no, i like unity but i'd like it to be more perfect
[06:15] <zdot> it's actually one of best experience i had with linux des in a while
[06:15] <xmetal> i have to say that despite saying i dont like unity (still one of my least favorite DE's) .... Unity doesn't seem that bad
[06:15] <xmetal> takes some getting use to
[06:15] <zdot> yes but it should bring up tray apps windows up when i click the tray icons
[06:16] <zdot> i guess i should write a patch of my own
[06:18] <expo987> Does ubuntu have one of those memory clearing apps
[06:18] <expo987> like free up RAM
[06:18] <Ben64> doesn't need it
[06:18]  * xmetal agrees with Ben
[06:19] <expo987> Ben64: I've used it before on OSX
[06:19] <expo987> They work
[06:20] <Ben64> idk about osx, but linux uses the memory it needs, theres nothing to clear
[06:21] <expo987> sometimes even after quitting minecraft web browsing gets slow on my macbook pro
[06:21] <expo987> i run that once and it goes back to normal
[06:21] <expo987> How do you explain *that*?
[06:22] <Guest65934> Yeah linux makes a ram disc sortive
[06:23] <Ben64> expo987: you're talking about osx again?
[06:23] <zdot> expo987: what is your RAM size?
[06:24] <bountyhunter> What programming language do you guys choose for begineers Java or Python in your opiniions?
[06:24] <zdot> expo987: you might want to swapoff && swapon
[06:24] <expo987> zdot: How do I do that?
[06:24] <expo987> zdot: 2 GB
[06:25] <zdot> expo987: sudo swapoff -a && sudo swapon -a
[06:25] <zdot> expo987: that's not too much, it may lag afetr you run a RAM hungry application like mincraft
[06:25] <Guest65934> I think he wants a linux ram cleaner app, like them programs for windows back in the old days memory sweeper ...
[06:26] <Codex_> hello
[06:26] <Codex_> I need help
[06:26] <expo987> Guest65934: Yep
[06:26] <zdot> expo987: because linux places lots of data into the virtual memory when it out of RAM
[06:26] <Ben64> expo987: once again, you don't need it and it won't work anyway
[06:27] <Codex_> how do I change the position of the buttons at the top of the windows
[06:27] <Myrtti> linuxatemyram.com
[06:27] <zdot> well, actually all of oses do that
[06:27] <Codex_> I need them on the left
[06:27] <zdot> Ben64: what wont work
[06:27] <Ben64> zdot: using a memory freer program on linux
[06:27] <expo987> zdot: does that mean some of my activity can be recoverable from my disk space
[06:27] <Codex_> does anyone know how this can be done?
[06:28] <hateball> expo987: If you want to drop cache for some reason (I've had to do this myself due to buggy intel firmware for instance, you can do: "echo 3 | sudo tee /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches"
[06:28] <Guest65934> expo987 I would jest use you computer and see if your swap file partition is getting used, most likely it's not at alll
[06:28] <xmetal> i'd think upgrading how much memory you have would be a better option
[06:29] <zdot> expo987: it means your system places some of the memory data into your swap partition because it gets out of memory
[06:29] <srirang> Hi.. I am trying to ssh into a remote machine (an EC2 instance running Ubuntu 12.04 server) but I am experiencing huge delays and often I get an error saying connection was closed.
[06:29] <zdot> expo987: when you do swapoff it places the data back to the memory
[06:29] <srirang> The CPU usage is below 50% on that machine (from the graphs shown in Amazon EC2 console) and whenever I do login I see that the load average is also less than 0.5
[06:30] <srirang> So what is causing the ssh connection to be so slow or even fail?
[06:30] <Sling> srirang: does an mtr to that host show packetloss or high latency?
[06:30] <zdot> expo987: and it's trivial to know RAM is way faster than today's permanent memory devices
[06:30] <Guest65934> ping the ssh port
[06:30] <Sling> Guest65934: what?
[06:30] <Codex_> hello I need to move the position of the window controls to the left
[06:30] <expo987> zdot: "when you do swapoff it places the data back to the memory" I don't understand this sentence
[06:31] <srirang> Sling: No, 0% loss
[06:31] <Ben64> !swap | expo987
[06:31] <zdot> expo987: ... swapoff unmounts the swap partitions but it has to place the swap data back in the RAM
[06:31] <Codex_> I guess im not going to get any help here
[06:32] <srirang> Sling: The ping times shown there, initial few are less than 20, the next 4 or 5 are above 250.
[06:32] <zdot> Codex_: you need an alternative gtk style i supose
[06:33] <Codex_> yes I want the close maximise minimise windows on the left of the to of the windows
[06:33] <Sling> srirang: then you're probably just crossing the ocean
[06:33] <Codex_> *buttons
[06:33] <Sling> otherwise >100 is too high
[06:33] <Guest65934> #nmap -p 22 yourserver.com
[06:33] <Ben64> Codex_: depends what you're using. left has been default for a while now
[06:33] <expo987> zdot: Huh... my swap partition is like 2GB
[06:33] <srirang> Sling: That is true. I am in India and the machine is in the US-East region. But never have I experienced such high delays.
[06:33] <zdot> Codex_: you can install a theme that does it or just crate one of your own
[06:33] <zdot> expo987: so?
[06:33] <expo987> is that the same thing
[06:33] <expo987> ?
[06:33] <Codex_> im using MATE
[06:34] <Sling> srirang: do you have another host somewhere which you could use as a intermediate/proxy ?
[06:34] <zdot> Codex_: so?
[06:34] <Sling> Guest65934: that will just show whether its open/filtered/closed, not how good the connection is
[06:34] <Ben64> Codex_: mate isn't supported in here
[06:34] <Sling> Guest65934: and since he can connect to it, it's open
[06:34] <Codex_> well in unity I guess they are on the left but in mate the default is on the right
[06:34] <Codex_> what is the mate chan then?
[06:35] <zdot> Codex_: just find a satisfying theme for mate
[06:35] <xmetal> !mint
[06:35] <zdot> or modify one you have installed
[06:36] <xmetal> probably will find support for mate there
[06:36] <xmetal> (i am on Mint, myself)
[06:36] <Codex_> how do I modify ambiance controls to have them on the right?
[06:36] <srirang> Sling: You are correct about port 22 being open. I have another host. How can I use that as a proxy/intermediate?
[06:36] <ObrienDave> try #mate
[06:36] <expo987> zdot: can scrupulous men find sensitive information from these caches?
[06:36] <srirang> login to that intermediate and then login to the slow machine?
[06:36] <Sling> srirang: sure
[06:37]  * srirang tries that
[06:37] <Xgates> hi guys
[06:37] <zdot> expo987: i'm sorry i don't understand your question
[06:37] <zdot> Xgates: o/
[06:37] <expo987> zdot: Okay, what does cache mean in laymen terms?
[06:37] <Xgates> anyone know if intel-vaapi-driver 1.0.17-1 will work with Intel HD 4600 on Haswell, or if the 1.0.20-2 will?
[06:38] <Guest65934> l have an idea lets all make our own X server, who's in?
[06:38] <Xgates> or any other better version?
[06:38] <ObrienDave> expo987, temporary storage
[06:39] <zdot> !cache
[06:39] <zdot> expo987: go to wiki lol
[06:39] <Ben64> expo987: if someone has access to your computer, nothing is safe anyway, so don't worry about swap
[06:39] <ObrienDave> zdot, can UNscrupulous men find sensitive information from these caches?
[06:40] <zdot> expo987: yes
[06:40] <expo987> zdot: please explain how
[06:41] <expo987> even if i encrypted the home folder?
[06:41] <zdot> yes, even butr you can clear swap data afaik on reboot
[06:41] <ObrienDave> expo987, given enough time, ANYTHING can be recovered from your computer
[06:42] <expo987> ObrienDave: does that mean certain passwords kept in the ram for a given session can actually be in swap partition
[06:42] <ObrienDave> expo987, no, but they can be stored on your HD
[06:43] <zdot> expo987: as i said, there are ways to clear your swap partition
[06:44] <expo987> ObrienDave: but aren't stuff put in the hard drive hard to clear
[06:45] <Guest65934> actually you can recover data from ram that has been powered off an removed for a computer for days weeks and so on D
[06:45] <youkie1> hello
[06:45] <ObrienDave> expo987, essentially, until that particular area of the HD is overwritten many times, the underlying data can still be recovered with the right tools
[06:45] <djdduty> Hello, anyone else using proprietary ati drivers want to help me out? Basically I am running a 3D program I made, and it is running at ~700fps constant but I get very VERY laggy controls and jumpy images, as if it was running at like 5 or 10 fps.
[06:46] <djdduty> I was wondering how to enable vsync, to see if that somehow helps
[06:46] <djdduty> or if anyone else has encountered this.
[06:46] <djdduty> on ubuntu 12.04
[06:47] <expo987> ObrienDave: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Data_erasure#Standards i'm told these methods are obsolete for modern hard drives
[06:48] <expo987> and that for ssd's it's not as well understood
[06:48] <ObrienDave> Guest65934, not from RAM, that has to be refreshed electrically many times per second. NVRAM is different. FLASH RAM is different. yes, they can be read for a long time. that's how USB sticks and flash memory works. not real RAM
[06:51] <expo987> ObrienDave: i read somewhere ram data can be extracted if the computer isn't turned off.... apparently this is how certain goverments  fish for passwords
[06:52] <ObrienDave> expo987, that is true. If it's on, it can be read
[06:53] <Guest65934> no need really to fish for passwords, all PWs are really obsolete
[06:54] <djdduty> could it be bad video tearing?
[06:54] <wilee-nilee> !ot
[06:54] <youkie1> have anyone got a knowledge about a AI algorithm core that has been developing or developed in our world?
[06:54] <youkie1> please give me a hint
[06:54] <ObrienDave> expo987, those standards are probably obsolete for modern drives.
[06:54] <expo987> Guest65934: what about the Encrypted ones
[06:55] <expo987> like encrypted home folder or encrypted entire drive
[06:55] <expo987> what is this 'hibernate' thing in linux?
[06:55] <skrator> youkie1: what do you mean?
[06:56] <expo987> i didn't know there was a thing before i started using linux computer
[06:56] <ObrienDave> expo987, hibernate takes the contents of tour RAM and stores it in a special file on the HD when off so it powers up where you shut it down
[06:57] <ObrienDave> expo987, hibernate is a feature of Windows for quite a while now.
[06:57] <ObrienDave> *your RAM
[06:58] <youkie1> skrator, I wanna to have an AI core that endow machine the mind.
[06:58] <Guest65934> encryption same thing, basically there is no such thing as random in computing, all modern encryptions is based of an attempt to create randomness = crackable
[06:59] <ObrienDave> Guest65934, also known as pseudo randomness
[06:59] <skrator> youkie1: well, I guess we are light years away from that
[07:00] <skrator> youkie1: most studies about neural networks struggle to simulate less then 1% of our brain power
[07:00] <cyberneto> hi
[07:00] <zdot> rok, no more support from me then
[07:01] <cyberneto> Please help me... How can I hide sdb to grub?, when installing new kernel grub reads it
[07:02] <cyberneto> I need grub only reads sda device
[07:02] <ObrienDave> cyberneto, what's on sdb?
[07:03] <wilee-nilee> cyberneto, What is sdb a internal or external and whats on it, it only is seeing boot info there.
[07:03] <wilee-nilee> it is*
[07:03] <cyberneto> linux installation for security audit
[07:03] <wilee-nilee> cyberneto, Internal or external?
[07:04] <cyberneto> internal
[07:05] <wilee-nilee> cyberneto, help yourself. https://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html
[07:06] <jyhc> If I installed an old version of some software from the official (universe?) repository and need to install a newer version that is available from a PPA
[07:06] <helmut_> hi
[07:06] <jyhc> What should I do? add the PPA, then dist-upgrade?
[07:07] <jyhc> or apt-get update
  Yeah I meant actual RAM  your able to recover data from modern RAM because of the way it's built it has capacitors on the module that do keep voltage applied even when removed http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231568
[07:07] <ObrienDave> add the PPA then apt-get update, apt-get upgrade
[07:08] <youkie1> SKRATOR, OR IS THERE ANY SOFTWARE THAT SIMULATE HUMAN MIND, OR TRYING TO?
[07:10] <skrator> youkie1: no, we are not close from that
[07:11] <skrator> youkie1: you gotta understand, that in order for computer scientists or programmers to simulate human mind, they first need to UNDERSTAND it... And neurology is really far from fully understand the ways of our brain
[07:11] <skrator> youkie1: all we got so far are clues of how it works
[07:12] <Guest65934> ironman
[07:12] <linu> hi i have installed wine on my ubuntu 12.04 pc,now i try to remove the wine with the following command  sudo apt-get install ppa-purgesudo ppa-purge ppa:ubuntu-wine/ppa,but it shows the icon in application menu,how can remove wine entirely  from my pc?
[07:12] <jyhc> I fucking love Linux
[07:13] <ObrienDave> Guest65934, sorry, I dont see anything in that description that says it's non-volatile memory
[07:13] <IdleOne> !language | jyhc
[07:14] <ObrienDave> linu, when you try to run wine from the icon, what happens?
[07:16] <Guest65934> I don't know could be wrong, jest my thoughts about it, I know some things about that stuff because I  found it interesting, other than that I jest whatever lol
[07:16] <linu> ObrienDave i have installed ms-office 2007,but i uninstalled,but the ms-office is showed in the wine in application menu,but when i try to open a word or excel it does not open,
[07:17] <linu> ObrienDave is it help to remove files from ~/.local/share/applications ?
[07:18] <ObrienDave> linu, you can remove the Office icon from the wine menu with winetricks
[07:18] <linu> ObrienDave, # winetricks  The program 'winetricks' is currently not installed.  To run 'winetricks' please ask your administrator to install the package 'winetricks'
[07:20] <ObrienDave> linu, you'll have to get an admin to install winetricks, I suppose
[07:22] <njsg> is org-mode on ubuntu broken/outdated? :-|
[07:22] <ObrienDave> linu, usually, anything installed in wine goes in /home/user_name/.wine/drive_c
[07:24] <wilee-nilee> !info org-mode
[07:24] <ObrienDave> !42
[07:24] <linu> ObrienDave so to remove a wine  menu in application menu,first need  to remove /home/user_name/.wine/drive_c that file right?
[07:24] <ObrienDave> ;)
[07:25] <wilee-nilee> njsg, In the repos, state the issue.
[07:25] <kostkon> linu, you'll find the wine desktop files in /home/user_name/.local/share/applications
[07:26] <ObrienDave> linu, no. you would be better off asking for help in #winehq
[07:27] <linu> kostkon it shows http://pastebin.com/1YSTdHFu
[07:28] <kostkon> linu, hmm ok
[07:28] <njsg> wilee-nilee: behavior is not the one I'm used to see in org-mode in the past two years, sounds like ubuntu shipped a very outdatedTM version of org-mode
[07:31] <swaagie> ubuntu is starting each time with the backlight completely dimmed, note that im running the drm-intel-nightly to get the screen to actually work properly, not sure if related though
[07:31] <wilee-nilee> njsg, I never heard of it, people in the channel might have more for you.
[07:31] <Xgates> by running this; lspci -vmk | grep -A 8 -B 2 VGA should this show you both drivers for the intel/nvidia? Because all I get is --> Driver:	i915
[07:32] <Xgates> opps run channel hehe
[07:35] <anonymous_> hi
[07:35] <insanity67> hi!
[07:36] <anonymous_> help me
[07:36] <ObrienDave> !ask
[07:37] <grnt> anonymous_: What's up?
[07:41] <anonymous_> Aircrack-ng is not installed.
[07:41] <swaagie> its funny how that line is always needed
[07:41] <swaagie> anyways backlight problems solved by http://askubuntu.com/questions/79983/screen-brightness-resets-to-minimum-after-every-reboot
[07:48] <peho> Can you suggest me how to install redmine on ubuntu 12.04 with apache2.4
[07:50] <foubarre> Hi everyone. I have an ubuntu server acting as a DHCP server. I changed the gateway address. Now machines randomly receive the old or new gateway. DHCP config only contains the new address (dhcp service was restarted many times just in case). Any idea of why that can happen?
[07:51] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-server|foubarre,
[07:52] <foubarre> cfhowlett: Sorry, it took some time before seeing that you were in fact telling me that i was in the wrong channel....
[07:53] <cfhowlett> foubarre, not to worry.
[07:55] <danny> hi all. im new to ubuntu and im trying to change the font size. the unity tweak tool is no longer available for 12.04
[07:56] <Guest99281> Hi, does anyone know how I can see from how many different users I have processes running? I need to see it from terminal
[07:56] <Guest99281> I tried htop vut I cant copy it's output
[07:57] <OnkelTem> Hi all. I've got MacBook Pro and trying to install Ubuntu there. Problems started from beginning: I can't boot into Ubuntu Desktop 13.04 from USB - http://vk.com/photo134615424_311006334
[07:57] <ne2k> OnkelTem: access denied?
[07:57] <Ben64> Guest99281: "users" or "who" ?
[07:58] <ObrienDave> OnkelTem, you need to make the picture public LOL
[07:58] <OnkelTem> http://cs320423.vk.me/v320423424/2c56/QFBG3PFmJOY.jpg
[07:58] <OnkelTem> ObrienDave: yeah
[07:58] <ne2k> Guest99281: ps auwx |cut -d\  -f1 |sort |uniq |wc -l
[07:58] <Guest99281> I mean if I have processes from user1 user2 and root then it should print me 3
[07:59] <Guest99281> thanks
[07:59] <ObrienDave> OnkelTem, ;))
[07:59] <ne2k> Guest99281: this means: list all processes and take output up to first space (i.e. the username), sort them and take unique entries, then count the number of lines
[08:02] <mnemonicj> hi. i'm about to install windows on a separate partition and want to dual boot. is there a way to prevent windows from messing up my grub menu?
[08:02] <mnemonicj> before i do my windows installation?
[08:03] <cfhowlett> mnemon, it's GOING to mess up your boot menu.  you'll need to reinstall grub.
[08:03] <cfhowlett> !grub|mnemonicj,
[08:03] <mnemonicj> thanks cfhowlett
[08:04] <OnkelTem> So have you ideas on how to boot Ubuntu 13.04 on MacBook Pro?
[08:04] <cfhowlett> !mac|OnkelTem,
[08:05] <OnkelTem> cfhowlett: thanks!
[08:06] <Guest99281> does anyone know how to filter or sor top output?
[08:06] <elnur> Hey. I'm trying to figure out why nginx and PostgreSQL don't start on system boot. Where do I start?
[08:06] <elnur> Other stuff like PHP-FPM *do* start.
[08:07] <qin> Guest99281: use htop
[08:07] <elnur> If it does matter, I'm running the system in VirtualBox.
[08:07] <Sling> elnur: logfiles are always a good start
[08:07] <elnur> Which ones?
[08:07] <Guest99281> but how can I copy htop output as plaintext?
[08:07] <Sling> elnur: also this is more suitable for #ubuntu-server
[08:08] <Sling> ah i see you also posted it there :)
[08:09] <elnur> Yea, but the channel seems to be quiet.
[08:09] <swaagie> where would I be able to find iwlwifi-7260-7.ucode to get intel wireless working, it's not present in the /lib/firmware/
[08:09] <GibbaTheHutt> Guest99281, you could do something like top -n 1 and then sort/filter
[08:10] <wilee-nilee> Guest99281, hit f1 in htop and run man htop in a terminal for info
[08:11] <qin> Guest99281: whats the aim? top is not realy comfy for piping but there is awk or simply sort
[08:11] <ronin> do you have any idea if I run java program, it creates this many processes http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6131614/
[08:11] <GibbaTheHutt> elnur, maybe man update-rc.d is something that could help
[08:11] <Ben64> ronin: you really shouldn't be running things as root, especially java
[08:12] <Guest99281> the aim is to get it's output to text file
[08:12] <ronin> Ben64, I'm usually not, just an example
[08:12] <ronin> I don't udnerstand why I get this many pid's
[08:12] <elnur> The thing is, I've compared contents of rc*.d folders in my host OS and the one in VirtualBox.
[08:12] <elnur> They look the same.
[08:12] <Ben64> because thats what the program does?
[08:12] <faugusztin> ronin: if it is a multithreaded app, then it is normal. if it is a swing application, it is multithreaded
[08:12] <swaagie> nvm found a debian package with the firmware
[08:13] <GibbaTheHutt> guest top -n 1 > /tmp/output.txt maybe
[08:13] <elnur> I mean, there are the same SXX symlinks to the same scripts.
[08:14] <ronin> faugusztin, it's simple java program that uses java.util.Scanner only
[08:15] <ronin> faugusztin, how do I know if it's a multithreaded app
[08:16] <GibbaTheHutt> ronin, maybe step back a bit, what actual problem is it causing ?
[08:17] <ronin> it's not creating any problems, just wondering :)
[08:17] <ronin> I just was afraid that if there's something wrong
[08:17] <ronin> but obviously not
[08:19] <Guest99281> does anyone know how to pause top command ?
[08:19] <faugusztin> ronin: it can have multiple reasons, starting from multithreaded app, it can be a garbage collector thread, whatever. best way to find out is to start the app with debugging and check out the thread list in Eclipse or other java IDE
[08:20] <GibbaTheHutt> Guest99281, man top  is has the info on there on the various options
[08:20] <qin> Guest99281: ps aux; how unhappy are you with output?
[08:25] <Axlin> Guest99281: Try hitting Ctrl-S to pause, Ctrl-Q to resume. This should work for any terminal output, by the way.
[08:25] <Guest99281> not sure how to sort ps -aux by %MEM
[08:26] <Guest99281> thanks
[08:26] <Rory> Guest99281:
[08:26] <Rory> ps aux | sort -nk +4
[08:26] <swaagie> \o/ wireless fail fixed
[08:26] <ObrienDave> is there any reason to run Apache if i'm not running a web server?
[08:27] <Rory> ObrienDave: No, Apache is a web server
[08:27] <swaagie> raring running as uefi on the aspire s7-392
[08:28]  * swaagie does a victory dance :P
[08:28] <ObrienDave> Rory, i can't figure out why apache would be running now
[08:29] <Rory> ObrienDave: You can uninstall it if you don't need it
[08:29] <ObrienDave> that's what i thought, just wanted to be sure. tnx
[08:32] <Lachezar> Hello people.
[08:33] <cfhowlett> Lachezar, greetings person
[08:34] <Lachezar> Today the update manager showed that I have 38 updates, but was only able to install 6, and then it showed, that I have 32 updates, but clickingf it said 'Your system is up to date' (in Bulgarian equivalent). I had to do a manual apt-get update+upgrade.
[08:34] <geaden> hello, guys! Here is the problem. My host os is Windows OS but I work in ubuntu most of the time which is running as virtual machine. I use sqldeveloper to connect our oracle database. From windows it works fine, but from ubuntu I get ORA12545:  Connect failed because target host or object does not exist. It's very weird as I can connect to my host instance of Oracle Express from ubuntu. From ubuntu i can host, ping and telnet oracle database server, but can
[08:34] <geaden> not connect from sql client
[08:35] <cfhowlett> Lachezar, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade     should fix all of that
[08:35] <Guest99281> can I sort df output?
[08:35] <Lachezar> cfhowlett: update+upgrade was enough, but I am puzzled as to why the Update Manager did not work.
[08:35] <Rory> Guest99281: By what?
[08:36] <ikonia_> geaden: sqldeveloper as in the Oracle product - sqldeveloper
[08:36] <Guest99281> by free space
[08:36] <Lachezar> Guest99281: Yes: 'df | sort -k 4' will sort on free space
[08:36] <Rory> Guest99281: df -B M | sort -k5 -g
[08:36] <cfhowlett> Lachezar, when I've been hit with that, it's usually due to held back packages ... once whatever was blocking the upgrade pipeline was fixed, themerry way. packages came down and I went on my
[08:36] <geaden> ikonia_: yes. I install sqldeveloper under ubuntu
[08:37] <ikonia_> geaden: ok, and where/what is the database you are trying to connect to, is it local to ubuntu, on the windows host, or on a different network ?
[08:37] <Lachezar> cfhowlett: I don't have held back packages. That's weird.
[08:37] <geaden> it's in local network and it's not on the windows host, thought on the windows host i can connect perfectly
[08:38] <Lachezar> cfhowlett: And when kernel needs updating it asks for the password an executes a dist-upgrade. But its behaviour is weird now: It _should_ work, I can manually update and upgrade.
[08:38] <ikonia_> geaden: ok, so from the ubuntu machine, can you tnsping the host ?
[08:38] <ikonia_> geaden: sorry, to be clear, can you tnsping the remote Oracle database
[08:38] <cfhowlett> Lachezar, sorry, but I don't have an answer for that.
[08:39] <geaden> ikonia_: ahh, i understand, but latest oracle instance client doesn't include tnsping((( So I haven't figured out how to install it yet
[08:39] <ikonia_> geaden: the oracle 11 and 12 client include tnsping
[08:39] <Lachezar> cfhowlett: 10x anyway. I am mainly trying to find out if I'm the only one.
[08:40] <geaden> ikonia_: hmm, there was not tnsping in http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/topics/linuxx86-64soft-092277.html
[08:41] <ikonia_> geaden: it's in the sqlplus package isn't it ?
[08:42] <geaden> ikonia_: yes, there is sqlplus but no tnsping((
[08:43] <ikonia_> geaden: no, tnsping is included in the sqlplus package
[08:43] <ikonia_> or at least always has been
[08:45] <ikonia_> geaden: can your ubuntu machine connect to the Oracle host on ssh for example, or some other application ?
[08:45] <Lachezar> geaden: What's the VM's network configuration? Bridge? NAT? Internal?
[08:49] <geaden> ikonia_: sqlplus zip contains https://friendpaste.com/1tjFLjnWuBa7lBUCv19T83
[08:49] <geaden> Lachezar: Bridge
[08:54] <danny> hi guys. anyone have any idea how i would go about having ubuntu not auto full screen when i drag a window to the top of the bar?
[08:56] <ikonia_> geaden: can you actually connect to the host in any other method
[08:57] <geaden> ikonia_: i can ping it, telnet it
[08:57] <ikonia_> geaden: what are you telneting to the oracle port ?
[08:57] <geaden> ikonia_: yes
[08:57] <ikonia_> geaden: so the Oracle port responds with a connection ?
[08:58] <geaden> Actual output is https://friendpaste.com/3WmhKQuGIbNhOsyjorOz5P
[08:59] <ikonia_> geaden: ok, so there is a connection made
[08:59] <ikonia_> geaden: that's good, so that means the problem is either down to the data you are sending with SQL Developer, or the response the server is giving
[09:00] <geaden> ikonia_: I have instance of Oracle Express in my host os and I can connect via sqldeveloper
[09:01] <ikonia_> geaden: that doesn't change the fact though
[09:01] <geaden> ikonia_: from ubuntu
[09:01] <ikonia_> geaden: sorry you can connect from ubuntu ?
[09:01] <ikonia_> geaden: I thought you said you couldn't connect from ubuntu ?
[09:02] <geaden> ikonia_: I mean from ubuntu to database that is stored in host os, not to other database
[09:02] <faugusztin> geaden: just a quick check - does your ubuntu box recognizes your oracle database server via hostname ?
[09:02] <ikonia_> geaden: that means nothing, you're not trying to connect to the database on the host - you're trying to connect to a different machine
[09:02] <ikonia_> geaden: you have just proven there is a physical connection between your ubuntu VM and the network hosted Oracle machine
[09:03] <geaden> faugusztin: yes, I can host it
[09:03] <geaden> ikonia_: yes, correct
[09:03] <faugusztin> geaden: ok, did you tried telnet to port 1521 ?
[09:03] <ikonia_> geaden: therefore the problem is either with a.) the data you are sending from sqldeveloper on your ubuntu VM to the remote Oracle machine 2.) the remote Oracle machine is not configured
[09:03] <geaden> faugusztin: yes https://friendpaste.com/3WmhKQuGIbNhOsyjorOz5P
[09:04] <geaden> ikonia_: I suppose the second choice is not as I can connect to it via SQLDeveloper from host os (win 7)
[09:09] <geaden> ikonia_: could it be the version issue.  On windows sqlplus of version 11.2, and Oracle DB is 11.2, on ubuntu sqlplus version is 12.1
[09:09] <geaden> ikonia_: ?
[09:09] <faugusztin> geaden: no, clients can connect to +/- 2 versions AFAIK
[09:10] <ikonia_> geaden: what version is the database
[09:10] <ikonia_> faugusztin: that's not strickly true
[09:10] <ikonia_> Oracle 12 client should be able to connect to an Oracle 11.2 database though
[09:11] <geaden> ikonia_: Oracle Database 11g Enterprise Edition Release 11.2.0.3.0 - 64bit Production
[09:11] <faugusztin> ikonia: especially as SQL Developer doesn't even uses the client, it goes through the JDBC driver
[09:11] <ikonia_> more so yes
[09:11] <ikonia_> howevever I thought he was now testing this through the client
[09:11] <geaden> faugusztin: I try both sql developer and sqlplus.
[09:12] <danny> hi guys. anyone have any idea how i would go about having ubuntu not auto full screen when i drag a window to the top of the bar?
[09:12] <geaden> ikonia_: sql developer gives me IO error network adapter couldn't establish connection, sqlplus - ORA12545
[09:13] <ikonia_> geaden: ok, so that suggests a networking problem
[09:13] <geaden> ikonia_: I put ip address of oracle server to /etc/hosts
[09:19] <faugusztin> geaden: and is that host in hosts exactly the same as the one in listener.ora on the database server ?
[09:19] <geaden> faugusztin: I suppose, my colleague that can connect gave me
[09:20] <ObrienDave> danny, yes, make sure the window is not full screen before dragging
[09:20] <faugusztin> geaden: well you should know exactly what is there, because that is where it wants to connect
[09:21] <faugusztin> geaden: it could be missing a domain name, whatever - you need to have there exactly what is on the server, or to use the same DNS server where that name is entered
[09:22] <geaden> faugusztin: I can access domain name by entering http://my-oracle-domain:8080/apex
[09:23] <faugusztin> geaden: my point is - if the database server has "something.domain.name" in listener.ora and you entered only "something" in your hosts, then it results exactly in the error you are experiencing now
[09:24] <faugusztin> geaden: a more detailed explanation: http://www.moreajays.com/2013/03/ora-12545-connect-failed-because-target.html
[09:24] <geaden> faugusztin: I see... I should check... But the problem is that other colleague with this record in /etc/hosts can connect...
[09:24] <faugusztin> geaden: from linux box too ? or is that a windows box ?
[09:25] <geaden> faugusztin: from linux box
[09:26] <geaden> faugusztin: I couldn't make sqlplus gave me trace... sqlnet.ora is created as suggested but not tracefiles while connecting
[09:27] <faugusztin> geaden: interesting... anyway, the reason why i insist on you checking that hostname is that the process is pretty much this - you connect to 1521 via IP or hostname, that checks for the database and then it says in answer: "the communication will go through this hostname and use this hostname only". now if your client can't resolve that hostname, you end up with ORA-12545 because technically that hostname doesn't exist for your client computer
[09:28] <faugusztin> geaden: and next step could be just downloading a full oracle client from OTN, which has tnsping
[09:29] <Lachezar> geaden: Did you try putting both the short and the fqdn of the host in ...etc/hosts?
[09:30] <Lachezar> geaden: It might be that your 'other colleague' has 'search ...' in resolv.conf
[09:31] <geaden> Lachezar: that makes sense. I'll check...
[09:32] <peho> Can i install passenger on apache2.4
[09:35] <lordmorgoth> Hello everyone ! I trying to migrate a windows 2008 machine to ubuntu. It should act as a DHCP, DNS, Print & File server + active directory. However I'm currently facing problems with the Active directory. It turned out to be a DNS problem.  For some reason I'm unable to ping any machine on the network via it's hostname. Any help would be greatly appreciated and thank you in advance.
[09:39] <geaden> Lachezar: thanks! It works now! I add to resolv.conf search what my colleague has and it works now. Thanks again!
[09:42] <Rory> What is the netmask in /xx notation for 255.255.255.192 ?
[09:43] <ObrienDave> Rory... ff.ff.ff.c0
[09:43] <Rory> No I mean, I think it's /26
[09:43] <ObrienDave> couldn't tell you
[09:43] <Rory> But it might be /28 and I'm terrible
[09:43] <Guest16287> cant access bluetooth ....using lenovo g580 ubuntu 12.04
[09:44] <Rory> !bluetooth | Guest16287 have you read the information here?
[09:45] <gr33n7007h> Rory, /26
[09:45] <Rory> Thanks gr33n7007h I thought it was
[09:47] <xeocs> hello! how to use 802.1x verification on ubuntu
[09:48] <Codex_> hello
[09:48] <Codex_> I am trying to install mumble
[09:50] <Lachezar> Rory: 256 - 192 = 64 = 2^6, which means mask is 32 - 6 = 26
[09:50]  * Lachezar squints his eyes in an attempt to check what the hell did he write just now...
[09:51] <ObrienDave> Lachezar... lol
[09:54] <Lachezar> No, hell, I was right.
[09:55] <Lachezar> Damn. Took me more time to make sure I was right, that it took me to write the solution :-/
[09:55] <ObrienDave> isn't how that usually goes :))
[09:55] <Lachezar> ObrienDave: Kinda :)
[09:55] <Guest16287> hcitool dev .... command doesn't show any devices... wt to do.
[09:56] <Lachezar> Guest16287: sudo?
[09:57] <gr33n7007h> Guest16287, Make sure its up first hciconfig hci0 up
[09:57] <Guest16287> yep
[09:59] <gr33n7007h> Guest16287, what does hcitool scan say
[10:00] <toxboi> Psil0Cybin: Did everything work out for you yesterday?
[10:01] <Guest16287> no such device
[10:02] <gr33n7007h> Guest16287, Well your device is down/disconnected then
[10:03] <Guest16287> broadcom sta wireless driver .. already activated.
[10:03] <drfaustus>  well,i have this /dev/sdb5  ,an ext4 device, 7GB free out of 16.5 GB,now i wannt inatall ubuntu  13.04  desktop 64 amd on this device without losing the files  found in it
[10:04] <gr33n7007h> Guest16287, hciconfig -a |grep 'BD Address'|awk '{print $3}' does it return a MAC address
[10:05] <Guest16287> dude i dnt knw hw to get bd adress...
[10:05] <gr33n7007h> Guest16287, type this in terminal:  hciconfig -a |grep 'BD Address'|awk '{print $3}'
[10:07] <Guest16287> BD means Bluetooth  device address right...
[10:07] <ichbinfantasielo> moin :)
[10:07] <gr33n7007h> Guest16287, Yes
[10:07] <Guest16287> i dnt knw hw to get it..
[10:08] <gr33n7007h> Guest16287, What OS are you on?
[10:08] <ichbinfantasielo> ich würde gerne von windows auf linux umsteigen. weiss aber nicht welches ich nehmen soll. es gibt ja so viele... gentoo, ubuntu und so. welches könnt uihr mir empfehlen?
[10:08] <Guest16287> ubuntu 12.04
[10:09] <gr33n7007h> Guest16287, What are you trying to do?
[10:10] <Guest16287> laptops bluetooth is not working .... not even it showing bluetooth icon on taskbar
[10:10] <gr33n7007h> Guest16287, type bluetoothd -u
[10:11] <swaagie> new chapter, raring refused to power down after regular power down, `shutdown -h now` does not do the trick either, without splash screen I can see killing all remaining processes [fail], it does continue however and ends up at reboot: Power down, any ideas?
[10:11] <Rory> swaagie: Does it do that every time?
[10:11] <Guest16287> D-Bus setup failed: Name already in use
[10:12] <lordmorgoth> Hello everyone ! I trying to migrate a windows 2008 machine to ubuntu. It should act as a DHCP, DNS, Print & File server + active directory. However I'm currently facing problems with the Active directory. It turned out to be a DNS problem.  For some reason I'm unable to ping any machine on the network via it's hostname. Any help would be greatly appreciated and thank you in advance.
[10:12] <swaagie> Rory: yeah I've not seen it shut down normally, got to use the power button each time, reboots work though
[10:13] <quantumpants_> Can anybody tell me, can I get ubuntu running on my Windows 7 starter Netbook?
[10:13] <Rory> quantumpants_: Does the system have a make and model?
[10:13] <gr33n7007h> Guest16287, Pastebin me a "hciconfig -a" please
[10:14] <Guest16287> nothing happened...
[10:14] <quantumpants_> Rory, there will be, My friend has it today. ill get it too you soon :) sorry.
[10:14] <gr33n7007h> Guest16287, What do you mean nothing happened?
[10:15] <Guest16287> i ran it on terminal... it ran without prompting any message..
[10:16] <gr33n7007h> Guest16287, type whereis hciconfig
[10:17] <Guest16287> hciconfig: /usr/sbin/hciconfig /usr/share/man/man8/hciconfig.8.gz
[10:17] <gr33n7007h> Guest16287, Have you only one bluetooth device?
[10:18] <Guest16287> lol... yes ... one laptop one inbuilt bluetooth device..
[10:18] <swaagie> Rory: I think it could be related to the wireless drivers as I had to add a custom iwlwifi ucode for the intel stuff to work properly
[10:19] <gr33n7007h> Guest16287, What does sudo hciconfig -a hci0 | grep 'DOWN' say
[10:19] <swaagie> or custom, more like latest 7260-7 firmware
[10:20] <Guest16287> Can't get device info: No such device
[10:20] <bl4ckdu5t> I downloaded skype on my  Ubuntu and I can't make video calls, what could be the  problem
[10:21] <swaagie> moving that ucode temporary and checking if I can shutdown after reboot
[10:21] <bl4ckdu5t> ??
[10:21] <bl4ckdu5t> The video icon seemed to be disabled
[10:21] <bl4ckdu5t> P.S I use cheese properly and also, I could see myself clearly from the video settings of Skype
[10:22] <swaagie> Rory: nope that didn't solve anything
[10:22] <bl4ckdu5t> any ideas?
[10:24] <gr33n7007h> Guest16287, Does lsmod | grep bluetooth give any output?
[10:24] <Guest16287> bluetooth             189625  10 rfcomm,bnep
[10:26] <ozux> I did changes in /etc/network/interfcaes and restarting network via /etc/init.d/networking or upstart services, but no effect. Any idea? Talking precise  server
[10:26] <gr33n7007h> Guest16287, Does a simple hciconfig give any output
[10:27] <Guest16287> nopw
[10:27] <bl4ckdu5t> !skype
[10:27] <Guest16287> nope
[10:27] <gr33n7007h> Guest16287, mmmmm...
[10:27] <Guest16287> ?
[10:28] <gr33n7007h> Guest16287, type sudo /etc/init.d/bluetooth start
[10:29] <Guest16287> Rather than invoking init scripts through /etc/init.d, use the service(8)
[10:29] <Guest16287> utility, e.g. service bluetooth start
[10:29] <Guest16287> Since the script you are attempting to invoke has been converted to an
[10:29] <Guest16287> Upstart job, you may also use the start(8) utility, e.g. start bluetooth
[10:29] <Guest16287> start: Job is already running: bluetooth
[10:30] <gr33n7007h> Guest16287, Is the bluetooth icon there in top right corner?
[10:31] <gr33n7007h> Guest16287, try restating bluetooth with service bluetooth start
[10:32] <gr33n7007h> Guest16287, try restating bluetooth with service bluetooth restart
[10:32] <Guest16287> nope... i had already told you that
[10:32] <bl4ckdu5t> !Ekiga
[10:32] <gr33n7007h> Guest16287, apt-get install bluemon
[10:33] <Guest16287> installed .... nw wt
[10:33] <gr33n7007h> Guest16287, open it
[10:34] <Guest16287> hw...
[10:36] <ANN-TechCoder> Guys. Did anyone had an issue in Ubuntu whre Window positions and size are not saved. and Dual monitors not saving window positions ?
[10:36] <gr33n7007h> type bluemon
[10:36] <gr33n7007h> or open it from accessories
[10:37] <Wiz_KeeD> hello guys
[10:37] <Guest16287> nope...may be it'll work after a restart....wait ... i'll be back...
[10:37] <Wiz_KeeD> I have setup the dejadup backup to backup every day incrementally, but when i Rebooted now I said "Backing up the whole syste, this might take a while the first time"
[10:37] <Wiz_KeeD> what is up with that?
[10:39] <drfaustus>  well,i have this /dev/sdb5  ,an ext4 device, 7GB free out of 16.5 GB,now i wannt inatall ubuntu  13.04  desktop 64 amd on this device without losing the files  found in it
[10:40] <Wiz_KeeD> anyone?
[10:40] <Rory> You can do that drfaustus but it might be easier to resize it and make a new partition in the free space - 7GiB is not very much space though
[10:41] <drfaustus> i mean i won't have to format it,it's ext4
[10:42] <OerHeks> Wiz_KeeD, i see no incremental option in Deja-dub gui
[10:42] <drfaustus> Rory: surely i wouldn't use a 7 GB device to install it
[10:42] <Rory> drfaustus: What is currently on the ext4 partition?
[10:43] <Rory> drfaustus: If it only currently has 7GiB of free space, that's all you'd be doing anyway
[10:43] <drfaustus> Rory: media files:fdp,djvu...
[10:44] <ice9> how to open wnk files in Ubuntu?
[10:44] <ice9> wnk file of debugmode wink
[10:45] <faugusztin> ice9: my best guess is by the linux version of their app (it seems they have one for x86)
[10:45] <ice9> faugusztin, i got 64bit!
[10:45] <drfaustus> Rory:i thought i could have them somewhere in the home folder
[10:45] <faugusztin> ice9: then you will have to install x86 compatibility libraries
[10:46] <ice9> faugusztin, please give me the apt-get syntax to install them
[10:46] <Rory> drfaustus: Yes you can. Move them all to a folder called "my_media" or something then you can find it after the installation
[10:47] <faugusztin> ice9: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/32bit_and_64bit bottom of the page
[10:47] <Rory> drfaustus: I'd recommend backing up that data and doing a clean installation (with format) on the partition though
[10:47] <drfaustus> Rory: i'ne got no space man
[10:47] <faugusztin> ice9: in short:  apt-get install package-name:i386
[10:48] <Rory> drfaustus: No, to a totally another drive
[10:48] <ice9> faugusztin, the dependency x86 package  is installed but the when I run the application it can't find it
[10:48] <ice9> cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[10:48] <drfaustus> can't i just keep them there ,install in the usual steps without marking format?
[10:48] <karab44> Hi
[10:49] <ObrienDave> ice9... try apt-get install ia32libs
[10:49] <swaagie> ok so only shutdown -r 0 works, -h poweroff and all other options stall at Reboot: power down
[10:49] <swaagie> but I don't want to reboot xd
[10:49] <ice9> ObrienDave, its installed
[10:50] <Rory> drfaustus: Yes you can
[10:51] <faugusztin> ice9: what does ldd says when you run it against the program you want to execute ? ldd /path/programname (put it on pastebin or something like that and give us a link
[10:52] <ice9> faugusztin, http://pastebin.com/sLdFM425
[10:52] <drfaustus> Rory: will this assign the whole 16.6 GB space to the system and keep the files ?
[10:52] <faugusztin> ice9: you are missing 32-bit libexpat
[10:53] <Rory> drfaustus: Yes, it will just use that partition as / without formatting. It won't overwrite your files unless they're conflicting
[10:53] <faugusztin> ice9: so do what this guy did http://www.bitsbythepound.com/installing-wink-on-64-bit-ubuntu-210.html
[10:53] <faugusztin> ice9: sudo ln -s /lib32/libexpat.so.1 /lib32/libexpat.so.0
[10:54] <drfaustus> Rory: and how 2 avoid conflicting?
[10:56] <Rory> drfaustus: I mean, if you already have a file, say, /etc/fstab then the installer will overwrite it.
[10:56] <Rory> drfaustus: Obviously take a backup first
[10:57] <Rory> But that's standard for anything like installing an OS, if you care about the data on that partition
[10:57] <drfaustus> ok ,roy thanx a lot
[10:57] <drfaustus> ok Rory ,thanx a lot
[10:57] <Rory> No problem drfaustus good luck
[10:58] <drfaustus> Rory:one last question,R u sure about this?
[10:58] <Rory> Yes drfaustus as long as you don't check the "format" box your data will be fine. But still take a backup first
[10:59] <drfaustus> Rory: ok,buddy,c u later on
[11:01] <ice9> faugusztin, libexpat.so.0 still not found after making the link
[11:02] <ice9> still linking to libexpat.so.1
[11:02] <faugusztin> ice9: locate libexpat.so.1
[11:02] <ice9> /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libexpat.so.1
[11:03] <faugusztin> ln -s /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libexpat.so.1 /lib/i386-linux-gnu/libexpat.so.0
[11:03] <ice9> thanks faugusztin
[11:09] <jolaren> I'm using jpegoptim manually on my server to optimize image size, any tips on programs that could also do .gif and .png?
[11:10] <nashant> Hey. I've got a weird issue. whenever I reboot I get a not syncing VFS kernel panic. If I boot from cold, no problems at all. Tried reinstalling grub with --root-directory=/boot, but now every time I boot it goes to grub command prompt and I have to specify configfile
[11:10] <nashant> The first problem is the one I'm really annoyed about. The second one was caused by me, and I think I know how to fix it
[11:12] <nashant> yup, fixed the second problem. So now just the kernel panic - not syncing: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0). But it's literally only after reboot. Press the reset button and boots fine
[11:13] <ice9> what is the command line to enable application to be shown in the systray?
[11:14] <OerHeks> jolaren, gifsicle for gif ( in softwarecenter) http://www.lcdf.org/gifsicle/
[11:15] <swaagie> how could I find out which process are not killed during shutdown (poweroff never happens)?
[11:18] <aethelrick> hi all, I'm running a new 12.04 installation and having trouble getting non sudo'd access to a serial port "/dev/ttyACM0". I am a member of the dialout group, do I need to add my user account to any other groups to resolve the permission problem?
[11:19] <ActionParsnip> aethelrick: let me search, is the OS fully updated?
[11:19] <aethelrick> ActionParsnip, hi, thanks for the help, yes I'm patched up to date
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> aethelrick: http://askubuntu.com/questions/211739/gammu-and-device-permissions
[11:20] <ActionParsnip> aethelrick: gksudo gedit /etc/udev/rules/99-phone.rules      and add the line given.
[11:22] <aethelrick> ActionParsnip, cool thanks, what search term did you use? google drew a blank for me
[11:22] <ice9> how to allow an application to appear in the systray?
[11:24] <mfaroukg3> I need help for the nvidia driver conflict with GLX/Unity/compix/totem and many other things, I tried all the ways to install the ubuntu official driver and the nvidia official but still the message of (Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0")
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> aethelrick: sudo /dev/ttyACM0
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> aethelrick: using duckduckgo
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> aethelrick: although google brings up the same sort of thing
[11:26] <ActionParsnip> mfaroukg3: what is the output of: cat /etc/issue
[11:27] <aethelrick> ActionParsnip, well there you go... I was searching for groups and tty permissions and stuff, ah well... thanks any how :)
[11:27] <ActionParsnip> aethelrick: well, it will only work with sudo, so its good to add. I've als seen the issue before ;)
[11:28] <mfaroukg3> ActionParsnip, hi, the output of the command is (Ubuntu 13.04 \n \l)
[11:28] <ActionParsnip> aethelrick: in this case, the google bubble is advantageous :)
[11:28] <aethelrick> hehe
[11:28] <MraMaria> Hi. Do you know any package for collaborative writing among LibreOffice and Ms Word in the same network?
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> mfaroukg3: tried:  sudo nvidia-xconfig    then rebooting
[11:29] <ActionParsnip> MraMaria: sharepoint is ok
[11:29] <Hodapp> >_<
[11:29] <mfaroukg3> ActionParsnip, this command is not found
[11:29] <Hodapp> I've never heard that from anyone about Sharepoint...
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> mfaroukg3: how did you install the nvidia driver?
[11:30] <MraMaria> ActionParsnip: thanks for the suggestion :)
[11:30] <ActionParsnip> MraMaria: or groupwise (i believe it does the same)
[11:30] <mfaroukg3> ActionParsnip, apt-get install nvidia-driver-current
[11:30] <MraMaria> ActionParsnip: thank you :)
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> !info nvidia-driver-current
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> mfaroukg3: ou sure?
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> *you
[11:31] <mfaroukg3> ActionParsnip, let me check it...
[11:31] <ActionParsnip> mfaroukg3: can you please pastebin the output of:  dpkg -l | grep nvidia
[11:32] <mfaroukg3> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/SQAgwGsC
[11:33] <nashant> Anyone any idea on why whenever I reboot I get 'kernel panic: not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)
[11:33] <nashant> but when I boot from cold it's fine
[11:34] <madmouser1> hi all, any idea how I can add ICA protocol to the UCCS / Remote login sessions for Ubuntu ? Would like to log into a  Citrix hosted desktop from the login scree
[11:34] <ice9> faugusztin, now wink can run but when its minimized to tray, it disappears, do you have any idea on how can i make it visible in the tray or how to bring it to front again?
[11:34] <aethelrick> ActionParsnip, ok, that worked! although trying to get the rules reloaded without a restart didn't... a reboot sorted it out though
[11:35] <mfaroukg3> ActionParsnip, Shall I remove all the nvidia ?
[11:35] <faugusztin> ice9: don't use unity, it has removed notification area thingy in 13.04 AFAIK
[11:35] <ActionParsnip> aethelrick: coolio
[11:36] <jamesbond> hello
[11:36] <aethelrick> jamesbond, good to see you mr bond
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> mfaroukg3: all the packages marked with 'rc' insead of 'ii' run:    dpkg -P
[11:36] <ActionParsnip> oops
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> mfaroukg3: all the packages marked with 'rc' insead of 'ii' run:   sudo dpkg -P name
[11:37] <ActionParsnip> mfaroukg3: eg: sudo dpkg -P nvidia-settings-304-updates
[11:37] <jamesbond> i install ubuntu 12.04 lts server for ltsp . now sometime when thin client try to connect my server the client drop into initramfs manu? i dont know what is the error can anyone help me please. its urgent
[11:39] <mfaroukg3> ActionParsnip, since it looks like some drivers were disabled which is conflicting, now what to do?
[11:39] <jamesbond> i install ubuntu 12.04 lts server for ltsp . now sometime when thin client try to connect my server the client drop into initramfs manu? i dont know what is the error can anyone help me please. its urgent
[11:40] <mfaroukg3> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/y2jMVGmB
[11:41] <odin__> @search CIA Interventions
[11:41] <k1l> odin__: keep this channel for ubuntu support, please
[11:41] <jamesbond> i install ubuntu 12.04 lts server for ltsp . now sometime when thin client try to connect my server the client drop into initramfs manu? i dont know what is the error can anyone help me please. its urgent
[11:42] <OerHeks> jamesbond sometime or always?
[11:42] <jamesbond> some time
[11:42] <jamesbond> is this network issue?
[11:43] <jamesbond> oerheks is that network issue?
[11:43] <aethelrick> jamesbond, sounds like client can't connect to the terminal server and thus does not finish "booting" the remote bits
[11:43] <mfaroukg3> ActionParsnip, I am going to restart
[11:43] <jamesbond> what should i do now?
[11:44] <aethelrick> jamesbond, can you rule out a network problem? is it one client, many clients etc? need to do some fault finding to narrow down the problem
[11:44] <jamesbond> i have 13 client
[11:45] <linu> hi all i got the following error while cross compiling a sample qt apps http://pastebin.com/7HX6zHe3
[11:45] <jamesbond> when my student start the systems 3 -4 system drop into the initramfs menu
[11:46] <mfaroukg> ActionParsnip, I am back from the restart and it is the same
[11:46] <ActionParsnip> mfaroukg: are you using that optimus mess? switchable GPU?
[11:46] <aethelrick> jamesbond, is it always the same machines? or different ones every time?
[11:46] <jamesbond> different machine
[11:47] <mfaroukg> ActionParsnip, what is the solution ?
[11:47] <OerHeks> jamesbond, sounds like a network issue. do all clients have a static IP or get one form DHCP ?
[11:47] <ActionParsnip> mfaroukg: I asked you a question.....read
[11:48] <jamesbond> client dont have harddisk . my server is dhcp server
[11:49] <mfaroukg> ActionParsnip, I am not switching anything. I had a problem with power management and I read in the forums to install the nvidia driver then power is ok but things are messed up
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> mfaroukg: if you run:  sudo lshw -C display    do you see an Intel GPU and an Nvidia GPU?
[11:49] <ActionParsnip> mfaroukg: and is the system a laptop?
[11:49] <aethelrick> jamesbond, do you have any errors on screen? any more information?
[11:50] <mfaroukg> ActionParsnip, it is laptop samsung i5
[11:50] <ActionParsnip> mfaroukg: ok run the command I gave, do you see an Intel GPU and an Nvidia GPU
[11:50] <jamesbond> no busy-box error
[11:51] <jamesbond> it drop me to black screen with (initramfs)
[11:52] <mfaroukg> ActionParsnip, it gives me command not found again
[11:52] <aethelrick> jamesbond, any logs on the server?
[11:52] <jamesbond> no
[11:53] <himanshu_linux> hi
[11:53] <jamesbond> in my network there are two dhcp server . can it be problem for that?
[11:53] <aethelrick> jamesbond, yes!
[11:53] <jamesbond> are you sure?
[11:54] <aethelrick> jamesbond, depends on dhcp server config, but it's usually not a good idea to have two of them running on the same network
[11:54] <jamesbond> but in my case i confugerd my /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf file very well and i mention there where to find pxelinux file and all that
[11:55] <ActionParsnip> mfaroukg: in capitals it is: SUDO LSHW -C DISPLAY
[11:56] <jhutchins> jamesbond: If the system gets it's DHCP from the other server it won't get that information.
[11:57] <jamesbond> ok then i have to stop on dhcp right/
[11:57] <aethelrick> jamesbond, BOTH DHCP servers must be configured correctly in order for this to work, I suggest disabling one server until you are sure your config works
[11:57] <mfaroukg> ActionParsnip, this the output http://pastebin.com/dq9XepJs
[11:57] <jamesbond> ok
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> mfaroukg: then you only have an Intel GPU
[11:58] <jamesbond> this solution can solve my problem
[11:58] <ActionParsnip> mfaroukg: so why are you installing Nvidia drivers?
[12:00] <mfaroukg> ActionParsnip, I read in the website about my problem and found that I should install the nvidia driver, there is a tag on the laptop says nvidia optimus and in the windows OS it shows that nvidia driver is installed and working
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> mfaroukg: but you dont have an nvidia GPU?
[12:00] <ActionParsnip> mfaroukg: didnt think to check that?
[12:01] <jamesbond> exit
[12:03] <mfaroukg> ActionParsnip, I need to remove the nvidia drivers ?
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> mfaroukg: I would they are of no value to you
[12:04] <ActionParsnip> mfaroukg: why didnt you check if you had an Nvidia GPU
[12:06] <mfaroukg> ActionParsnip, when I check and found in windows , it must be in ubuntu too isn't it?
[12:06] <nashant> Anyone any idea on why whenever I reboot I get 'kernel panic: not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)', but whenever I boot from cold it starts just fine?
[12:07] <nashant> LVM wouldn't be interfering would it/
[12:07] <nashant> ?
[12:07] <ActionParsnip> mfaroukg: it doesnt appear to be seen, maybe why you are having issues
[12:10] <causative> I'm having difficulty recording an internal sound stream using the pulse audio volume control.  When I switch the record stream to "Monitor of built-in audio analog stereo" it records no sound...
[12:11] <mfaroukg> ActionParsnip, I am removing all the drivers for nvidia and I will use the Jockey-kde to see what are the missing hardware, if it shows nvidia what shall I do?
[12:11] <mfaroukg> ActionParsnip, http://pastebin.com/xEWDMFWY
[12:11] <egasimus> I'm booting a Vagrant box based on Ubuntu Raring - and Vagrant always spends a lot of time on "Waiting for VM to boot. This can take a few minutes."
[12:12] <egasimus> A lot of the times the SSH connection just times out, even though the VirtualBox manager shows what seems to be the system's login prompt. What can I do to ensure quick and reliable boot of my VM?
[12:18] <cariveri> hi. how do I resolve dependencies using apt ?
[12:21] <toxboi> cariveri: apt-get automatically resolves dependencies
[12:21] <toxboi> cariveri: what exactly are you trying to do?
[12:27] <kdsebastian27> hi
[12:30] <diverdude> Hello, i am trying to measure the performance on the system using the ubuntu package called hpcc. But when i run it i get an error saying: "cannot open file hpccinf.txt" What is this file? where should i put it and what should it contain? man hpcc does not work.
[12:33] <cfhowlett> diverdude, it's a text file?  gedit and look at it.
[12:34] <diverdude> cfhowlett, where is it located?
[12:35] <cfhowlett> diverdude, guessing it's produced by your hpcc app.  if the app doesn't tell you where it's stored, do a search with the file manager.
[12:37] <cariveri> please help. I cannot even install te software-center anymore
[12:37] <cfhowlett> !details|cariveri,
[12:38] <cariveri> sure.
[12:40] <cariveri> I have a got ubuntu (upgraded to 13.04) I wanted to install gnome shell. it worked, but due to problems I tried adding ppa gnome3-team. then updating/upgrading seem to have caused major dependency problems. so I removed the ppas and tried to reinstall from scratch. now im stuck.
[12:43] <cariveri> e.g apt-get software-center depends on gvfs which depends on x which cannot be installed gfvs (= 1.16.1-0ubntu1) but 1.16.2-2ubntu1+raring is to be installed
[12:43] <cariveri> ubottu: thats it. I cannot install things anymore.
[12:43] <cariveri> cool
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> cariveri: gnome shell is in the official repos...why do you need a ppa?
[12:44] <bazhang> cariveri, the unsupported PPA of  gnome3.8 with the warnings on it?
[12:45] <newhite> Hello Everyone
[12:45] <cariveri> bazhang: I tried it. I dont want them anymore. I jsut want to isntall normal stuff !
[12:45] <newhite> I have a quick question about how to monitor socket traffic
[12:45] <cariveri> like the software center
[12:45] <bazhang> cariveri, was it that one?
[12:45] <newhite> what is a good program for that?
[12:46] <bazhang> !info iotop
[12:46] <cfhowlett> newhite, traffic monitoring?  I'd suggest asking in #ubuntu-server
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> newhite: wireshark
[12:46] <sarthor> HI, I did apt-get update and then apt-get upgrade, Now when I rebooted, machine is not booting in normal way, I went through recovery mode, and then Network.. So I can use my machine, .. when machine is booting in normal way, it says..  udevd[468]: timeout: killing '/sbin/modprobe -bv pci:v00008086d000027D8sv00001028sd000001DEbc04sc03i00' [473] .. and never boot...HELP please.
[12:46] <cariveri> bazhang: that one?
[12:46] <newhite> cfhowlett, thanks
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> cariveri: the PPA you have added is a) not needed and b) covered in warnings
[12:47] <ActionParsnip> cariveri: so why add it?
[12:47] <bazhang> cariveri, the unsupported PPA of  gnome3.8 with the warnings on it?
[12:47] <cfhowlett> :_)
[12:48] <cariveri> ActionParsnip: im sorry. I dotn see what you mean . fact is , that I tried added and unadded it again.
[12:48] <cariveri> bazhang: gnome3.8 yes. but i was not aware of warnings.
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> cariveri: did you use the ppa-purge command to remove it
[12:48] <startthink> http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2013/09/19/obamas-claim-that-non-budget-items-have-never-been-attached-to-the-debt-ceiling/    <<Stop being fooled by partisan and political smokescreens and start thinking.
[12:48] <cariveri> ActionParsnip: no. deactivating should be enough , not?
[12:48] <cfhowlett> !ot|startthink, offtopic.
[12:49] <newhite> What about a serial monitor?
[12:49] <bazhang> cariveri, the warnings are very clear on it, hard to miss really
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> cariveri: no, using ppa-purge will roll back the packages for you too
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> newhite: you can tell it to monitor an y interface name you like
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> !info gnome-shell precise | cariveri
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> cariveri: its in the official ubuntu repos, you could have seacrhed software centre and installed it
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> cariveri: why did you not do that first....?
[12:50] <drfaustus>  well,i have this /dev/sdb5,an ext4 device,7GB free out of 16.5.now i wanna install ubuntu 13.04 desktop 64amd  without i lose these files
[12:50] <newhite> ActionParsnip,  Bare with me,  I don't understand what you said.  What is it?  (Ubuntu?)  And how do I tell it to monitor an interface?
[12:50] <cariveri> ActionParsnip: there was only gnome3.6 which had some problems I hoped to find solved in 3.8
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> newhite: read guides and the man pages etc
[12:51] <Pici> newhite: Are you asking what Ubuntu is?
[12:51] <cfhowlett> !home|drfaustus, move your data to a  dedicated home, backup the data and install.
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> cariveri: this channel cannot support PPA versions of applications
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> cariveri: so using the official one will give more support
[12:51] <newhite> Pici, no, My original question was what is a good program to monitor Serial traffic in Ubuntu
[12:52] <newhite> Pici, I didn't understand the response, so I requested clarification
[12:52] <cariveri> ActionParsnip: this is not about supporting them. I want to roll back to normal.
[12:52] <ocooel> Hi guys. I keep getting this message. ALERT! /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root does not exit. Than it drops me into a shell. This is after I removed kubuntu-desktop. Is there a way I can fix this..?
[12:53] <Pici> newhite: I don't think any of us know of any off the top of our heads. I just did an apt-cache search for serial monitor and came up with a few things that might help you, but you should take a look at the descriptions yourself to see if the really do fit your need.
[12:53] <Ceninant> Quick question, I have a new box that someone gave me..I can't get ethernet to work or a recognition on a USB wireless card to recognize.
[12:53] <ocooel> I thought I could reboot and load under an old kernel and look for an ubuntu-root package..? Is that possible..?
[12:53] <cariveri> ActionParsnip: but as I said, it is not as easy. let me see abou tthis ppa-purge ..
[12:54] <newhite> Pici, Thanks, I'll do the same.  I didn't realize there was a search command "apt-cache
[12:54] <Ceninant> Asus A8N-LA
[12:54] <cfhowlett> Ceninant, wifii chipset?
[12:55] <cfhowlett> ocooel, weird error.  You added K-desktop to ubuntu and then removed it?  how?
[12:55] <Ceninant> cfhowlett, onboard chipset is Asus A8N-LA
[12:56] <cfhowlett> !wifi|Ceninant,
[12:57] <DewiL_> pls help me i could'nt install amd radeon hd 6470 graphics card. my ubuntu version 13.04. Forever error. low graphics error
[12:57] <Ceninant> wireless adapter is WUA-2340
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> Ceninant: no, that is the motherboard, not the chipset
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> Ceninant: what ethernet controller dos it have?
[12:57] <Ceninant> but I'm more concerned with getting the ethernet than the wifi :-\
[12:57] <xteam> hi
[12:58] <ocooel> cfhowlett: I first added by sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop. Then removed twice by sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop and sudo apt-get --purge remove kubuntu-desktop. I then copy and pasted this first command: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/pureubuntu
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> Ceninant: sudo lshw -C network     will tell you
[12:58] <drfaustus> ubottu: can'i i just install ubuntu in the usual steps ,assigning /dev/sdb5 as /  without marking format?
[12:58] <bl4ckdu5t> What's the best Ubuntu image editor to resize images. I just found out I can't resize with eye-of-gnome
[12:58] <xteam> how are you?
[12:58] <DewiL_> pls help me i could'nt install amd radeon hd 6470 graphics card. my ubuntu version 13.04. Forever error. low graphics error
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> ocooel: if you remove the packages with 'kde' in them, it will remove what isn't needed
[12:59] <cfhowlett> drfaustus, ubuntu needs to format to remove all the old crap.
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> crazysoilder: you can if you use the 'something else' option in the installer
[12:59] <ocooel> ActionParsnip: I am past that step.
[12:59] <Ceninant> system is a Presario SR1954NX
[12:59] <JosephDuffy> Hi everyone. Can anyone help me format my 3TB internal drive to NTFS? I've managed to format it but it's only formatted to 2TB so I'm guessing I need to do something extra to make a one big 3TB drive? I'm using Ubuntu Server so it'll have to be through the terminal :)
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> ocooel: so if you run:  dpkg -l | awk {'print $2'} | grep -i kde     you get zero output?
[13:00] <drfaustus> ubottu: excuse my ignorance,what's a bot?
[13:00] <Ceninant> ActionParsnip, let me run that command. Be right back.
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> JoeyJoeJo: I suggest you use Windows to format to NTFS
[13:00] <Rory> !ubottu | drfaustus
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> JosephDuffy: I suggest you use Windows to format to NTFS
[13:00] <kdsebastian27> JoeyJoeJo: I suggest you use Windows to format to NTFS in reply to this
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> JoeyJoeJo: sorry, tab fail
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> you get the idea
[13:01] <cfhowlett> JosephDuffy, ^^^^^
[13:01] <kdsebastian27> JoeyJoeJo try gparted
[13:01] <ocooel> ActionParsnip: that is correct
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> ocooel: sweet, what is the issue please?
[13:01] <JosephDuffy> ActionParsnip: Thanks, I'll move it over then :)
[13:02] <startthink> http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2013/09/19/obamas-claim-that-non-budget-items-have-never-been-attached-to-the-debt-ceiling/ <<Stop being fooled by partisan and political smokescreens and start thinking.
[13:02] <ocooel> ActionParsnip: This is the error:  I keep getting this message. ALERT! /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root does not exit. Than it drops me into a shell. This is after I removed kubuntu-desktop.
[13:02] <drfaustus> Rory:what?
[13:03] <bl4ckdu5t> What's the best Ubuntu image editor to resize images. I just found out I can't resize with eye-of-gnome
[13:03] <Rory> drfaustus: ubottu is a channel bot that responds to requests to save people time
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> ocooel: ok let me search
[13:03] <cariveri> ActionParsnip: hwo does it work? I tried ppa-purge -p gnome3-team  which does not work. I think have to specify -d somehow
[13:03] <bl4ckdu5t> What's the best Ubuntu image editor to resize images. I just found out I can't resize with eye-of-gnome
[13:03] <cfhowlett> !patience|bl4ckdu5t,
[13:03] <Ceninant> nforce2
[13:03] <cfhowlett> !gimp|bl4ckdu5t,
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> cariveri: sudo ppa-purge ppa:gnome3-team/gnome3
[13:04] <ocooel> ActionParsnip: It's after I go into Advanced ubuntu and load from an old Kernel in Grub2
[13:04] <Ceninant> ActionParsnip, it's nforce2 chipset..that's quite common. What the heck..
[13:05] <bl4ckdu5t> !thanks
[13:05] <ocooel> ActionParsnip: Sorry, that's what I've done to get into ubuntu!
[13:05] <drfaustus> Rory: sorry buddy,i just needed a second opinion
[13:06] <ActionParsnip> ocooel: http://askubuntu.com/questions/286284/system-no-longer-boots-gave-up-waiting-for-root-device-initramfs-dev-mappe
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> ocooel: http://superuser.com/questions/256856/ubuntu-alert-dev-mapper-localhost-root-does-not-exist-dropping-to-a-shell
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> ocooel: http://askubuntu.com/questions/233684/luks-initramfs-boot-problem-dev-mapper-ubuntu-root-does-not-exist-how-can-i
[13:07] <ActionParsnip> ocooel: using LUKs arent you]
[13:09] <drfaustus> cfhowlett:  what if i wanted 2 keep the crap?
[13:10] <Rory> drfaustus: What do you think the format box is for? if you don't tick it your partition won't be formatted and your data will remain
[13:10] <cfhowlett> drfaustus, you want to keep the previous filesystem and install ubuntu on top of that?  expect unforeseen consequences.
[13:10] <ocooel> ActionParsnip: Yes
[13:10] <Rory> cfhowlett: he was here earlier, there's no Ubuntu installation there just personal media and stuff
[13:11] <cfhowlett> Rory, thanks for clarifying.
[13:11] <cfhowlett> drfaustus, if you have free space on your HDD, install ubuntu there.  You'll need about 8 gigs.  THEN you can add the data partition as your /home
[13:11] <drfaustus> Rory:this is what i keep telling myself
[13:12] <Rory> drfaustus: Take a backup before you do anything though
[13:13] <ActionParsnip> ocooel: not something i use, those links look useful
[13:13] <antar> Hi
[13:13] <cfhowlett> antar, greetings
[13:13] <antar> cfhowlett, how you doing :)
[13:14] <cfhowlett> drfaustus, OR ignore your data for now. install ubuntu and COPY the data to your new /home
[13:14] <cfhowlett> antar, well enough.
[13:14] <antar> cfhowlett, Good , just looking for a good IDE working on ubuntu for c++
[13:15] <cfhowlett> antar, never used one, no opinion.
[13:15] <Phantom_> test
[13:15] <cfhowlett> Phantom_, pass
[13:15] <antar> Phantom_, with me ?
[13:16] <Phantom_> just testing the new nick name, i`m new here
[13:16] <antar> cfhowlett, what do you think of Qt creator ?
[13:16] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Hello!
[13:16] <lars__> How do you download and install Adobe Flash for Kubuntu 12.04?  I cannot find it in my Muon Software Center
[13:16] <cfhowlett> antar, as I said, I'm not a developer, so I've IDE'd.  no opinion.
[13:16] <cfhowlett> !flash|lars__,
[13:17] <antar> cfhowlett, sorry :)
[13:18] <drfaustus> cfhowlett: what would the problem b if i had  free space do u think?
[13:18] <xeeder> hi
[13:18] <cfhowlett> drfaustus, problem?
[13:19] <xeeder> i am using ubuntu 12.04 LTS and i need help with something..
[13:19] <Guest51427> To see a complete listing of all the processes currently scheduled.
[13:19] <ocooel> ActionParsnip: Too bad I don't understand any of it.
[13:19] <xeeder> i have bitlocker encrypted drive and i want tp access it in ubuntu
[13:19] <cfhowlett> drfaustus, I missed something.
[13:20] <ocooel> ActionParsnip: The first link shows a picture of exactly what I am seeing.
[13:20] <Guest51427> Pardon the other message! Hi friends, I need help with a command. How can I list all files in current directory in 3 columns?
[13:20] <drfaustus> the problem is that i have no other free space  and moreover,i don't want 2 assign 2 partition to os
[13:20] <stefancr_> morning, I'm trying to install a package via pecl, but no matter what I try, I get "unable to unpack [a file]"
[13:20] <cfhowlett> drfaustus, details: how big is your HDD, how much data are you currently saving and how much is free space.
[13:21] <xeeder> i have bitlocker encrypted drive and i want to access it in ubuntu
[13:21] <xeeder> please help me..
[13:21] <Rory> xeeder: Bitlocker support is early and experimental, but you can look here http://superuser.com/questions/376533/how-to-access-bitlocker-encrypted-drive-in-linux
[13:22] <Rory> stefancr_: Do you have to use sudo?
[13:22] <stefancr_> yes, and I dp
[13:22] <stefancr_> do
[13:22] <Guest51427> please guys see my above question if you can help
[13:22] <Rory> stefancr_: What Ubuntu version are you using? Can you put the command you tried, and any output, on http://paste.ubuntu.com
[13:22] <IamTrying> Can anyone please tell me where i can get kernel: 3.2.0-41-generic  all files to install
[13:22] <drfaustus> cfhowlett:  well,i have this /dev/sdb5,an ext4 device,7GB free out of 16.5.now i wanna install ubuntu 13.04 desktop 64amd  without i lose these files
[13:22] <stefancr_> Rory: 12.04, hold
[13:23] <Rory> drfaustus: Do you own a USB flash drive? You could put all your files on the flash drive and copy them back after
[13:23] <stefancr_> Rory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6132650/
[13:23] <cfhowlett> drfaustus, 7 gigs is a pretty tight fit for ubuntu.  Try this: install lubuntu or xubuntu.  Lighter load...
[13:24] <Rory> stefancr_: Can you please also pastebin the result of the command: df -h
[13:24] <drfaustus> cfhowlett:  can't i just install ubuntu in the usual steps ,assigning /dev/sdb5 as /  without marking format?
[13:24] <cfhowlett> drfaustus, you can
[13:24] <stefancr_> Rory: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6132654/ /tmp looks troublesome
[13:25] <xeeder> Thanks rory
[13:25] <stefancr_> Rory: /overflow I mean
[13:25] <xeeder> "Then, type: `make` and `sudo make install` (or just the second one if you're
[13:25] <stefancr_> eh. no. /tmp. dizzy...
[13:25] <xeeder> lazy)."
[13:25] <kielanmatt> I installed ubuntu-gnome
[13:25] <Rory> stefancr_: Take a look here http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/60731/overflow-tmp-mounted-when-there-is-free-space-on
[13:25] <kielanmatt> and nvidia-prime which forced an install of unity
[13:25] <kielanmatt> now my theme is "kindof" broken
[13:25] <drfaustus> Rory: i have usb flash ,but i use it in installation
[13:26] <kielanmatt> i.e. all the buttons, scrollbars etc look like xfce
[13:26] <stefancr_> Rory: sweet, thanks
[13:27] <xeeder> i am getting this error:
[13:27] <xeeder> gcc -Wall -Wextra -Wconversion -D PROGNAME=\"dislocker\" -D VERSION=\"0.2\" -D_FILE_OFFSET_BITS=64 -I/usr/include -I. -L/usr/lib64 -D__ARCH_X86_64  -D__OPENSSL -D__RUN_FUSE -DFUSE_USE_VERSION=26 -c -o dislocker.o dislocker.c
[13:27] <xeeder> In file included from get_metadata/vmk.h:14:0,
[13:27] <xeeder>                  from dislocker.h:13,
[13:27] <xeeder>                  from dislocker.c:11:
[13:27] <FloodBot1> xeeder: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:27] <xeeder> ./encryption/decrypt.h:21:26: fatal error: openssl/aes.h: No such file or directory
[13:28] <kielanmatt> xeeder: your search path is wrong
[13:28] <ZAYAN> hellooooooooooo
[13:28] <kielanmatt> xeeder: you need to install openssl-dev or something like that
[13:28] <stefancr_> Rory: totally fixed it!
[13:29] <xeeder> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6132666/
[13:29] <ZAYAN> Python or Java for begineerss?
[13:29] <xeeder> i have followed that guide upto line 23.
[13:29] <IamTrying> Is this correct for 3.2.0-41-generic? http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.2.41-precise/
[13:30] <xeeder> after that i came up with this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6132660/
[13:30] <ikonia> IamTrying: why are you using the mainline PPA ?
[13:30] <xeeder> kielanmatt, what is search path? i have cd'ed the folder correctly
[13:30] <drfaustus> thanx a lot ,Rory , cfhowlett
[13:30] <Ceninant> Sigh.
[13:31] <Ceninant> Looks like the ethernet controller on the motherboard is dead.
[13:31] <IamTrying> ikonia, I am behind a VPN/Firewall company, where i cant do apt-get no way to either use proxy there. And system is crashed i need to go back to the kernel which was stable. that is 3.2.0.41-generic
[13:31] <xeeder> kielanmatt,  i did install that package.
[13:31] <xeeder> after that i continued following remaining instructions
[13:31] <ikonia> IamTrying: why are you using the mainline kernel PPA rather than the stable kernels provided by the official stable ubuntu repos ?
[13:32] <IamTrying> OH ic, you mean from here https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/precise/i386/linux-image-3.2.0-41-generic  ? (confused dont know )
[13:33] <ikonia> IamTrying: you shoud not need to add/use a PPA to get the stable kernel supplied by ubuntu
[13:33] <ikonia> /should/
[13:33] <xeeder> please help me with this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6132660/
[13:33] <ikonia> xeeder: you need the openssl headers, hence the file missing error
[13:35] <IamTrying> ikonia, if i use this, i get failed to apt-get update cause my box is remotely and behind VPN has no access to itnernet: >>  deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/canonical-kernel-team/ppa/ubuntu precise main deb-src http://ppa.launchpad.net/canonical-kernel-team/ppa/ubuntu precise main
[13:35] <xeeder> ikonia,  how to get those?
[13:35] <ikonia> IamTrying: why are you using a PPA - what part of "there is no need to use a PPA" is clear ?
[13:35] <ikonia> xeeder: install the openssl development packages
[13:36] <cfhowlett> IamTrying, you might have noticed a theme here: PPA are NOT supported in this channel.
[13:36] <ikonia> IamTrying: there is NO REASON to use a PPA
[13:36] <ikonia> IamTrying: the kernel is provided in the main ubuntu repos - why are you trying to use a PPA ?
[13:37] <xeeder> ikonia, i tried but now i am getting this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6132698/
[13:37] <newhite> Question;  when an application is running in terminal.  how do you stop it?
[13:37] <ikonia> xeeder: that's not an error -thats saying that is not a valid package name
[13:37] <xeeder> lol
[13:38] <xeeder> i used this command: sudo apt-get install libssl0.9.7
[13:38] <Wiz_KeeD> I have setup the dejadup backup to backup every day incrementally, but when i Rebooted now I said "Backing up the whole syste, this might take a while the first time".For incremental backup it shouldn't say that since it did the first one yesterday right?
[13:38] <xeeder> am i missing something?
[13:38] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: correct
[13:38] <ikonia> xeeder: yes, a valid package name
[13:39] <newhite> How do I stop an application that is running in terminal
[13:39] <ikonia> newhite: ctrl+c
[13:39] <newhite> ikonia, thanks
[13:40] <ZAYAN> Python vs Java for begineers??
[13:40] <ikonia> ZAYAN: nothing to do with this channel
[13:40] <ikonia> ZAYAN: try ##programming
[13:40] <k1l> !ot | ZAYAN
[13:41] <Wiz_KeeD> Yet why it made a whole new backup then?
[13:41] <ZAYAN> ok
[13:41] <ikonia> Wiz_KeeD: it shouldn't if you have a valid backup to work forward from
[13:41] <xeeder> ikonia,  what is the valid name for openssl package?
[13:41] <ikonia> xeeder: search the repo
[13:42] <xeeder> finally installed that openssl :)
[13:43] <eshack> seems my kids have broke their installation, they were on Kubuntu, after it broke, I installed ubuntu-desktop, and it is broke too, doesn't shutdown, and now boots in low graphics after I did a dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[13:44] <eshack> Any ideas?
[13:44] <IamTrying> ikonia, i understand you. So i tried this but i am failing: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6132720/
[13:44] <BluesKaj> Howdy all
[13:44] <cfhowlett> eshack, trade the kids for a loyal puppy?
[13:44] <Wiz_KeeD> yet it did ikonia :(
[13:44] <Wiz_KeeD> It finished successfuly yesterday
[13:44] <xeeder> ikonia, i'm still getting this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6132721/
[13:44] <xeeder> :/
[13:44] <ikonia> IamTrying: so you have a nework problem
[13:45] <IamTrying> ikonia, no i am remotely connected via VPN to that box.
[13:45] <eshack> I have a puppy. :) cfhowlett, but not a bad idea. :)
[13:45] <ikonia> IamTrying: you have a network problem.....
[13:45] <ikonia> xeeder: either a.) you have installed the wrong packge b.) the compiler is looking in the wrong place
[13:48] <Myrtti> Wiz_KeeD: backups should not always be just incremental, so in that sense the fact that it starts from clean slate every now and then isn't a bad idea
[13:48] <xeeder> ikonia, is this the correct package? :openssl-fips-2.0.5.tar.gz?
[13:48] <ikonia> xeeder: no, that's a tar file
[13:49] <ikonia> xeeder: the packages are in the ubuntu package manager
[13:49] <jhutchins> eshack: Clean install, then make a fallback image and when they break it, restore the image.
[13:49] <xeeder> how to access ubuntu package manager?
[13:49] <xeeder> you mean software center?
[13:49] <ikonia> xeeder: you need to read https://help.ubuntu.com - you need to know the basics first
[13:50] <eshack> jhutchins: Yes, I'm getting the latest 13.04 Ubuntu, to do a clean install, but traditionally, I roll my sleeves up, and get in there and fix it, if for nothing else, my learning experience.
[13:51] <eshack> jhutchins: I figure at this point, I can't break it worse than it is, worst that could happen, is I could accidentally fix it. :)
[13:52] <eshack> Course, I would like to intentionally fix it rather than accidentally.
[13:52] <eshack> Does someone remember how to reconfigure the graphics setup via command line?
[13:52] <Rory> xeeder: Can you sum up for me what you are trying to do and what problems you're having, on one line?
[13:53] <StarFlower> !Steppin 01-inxs-show_me_(cherry_baby).mp3
[13:53] <StarFlower> sorry wrong room
[13:53] <xeeder> i am trying to access bitlocker drives and i am unable to follow the procedure as per mentioned here: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6132666/
[13:54] <Rory> xeeder: That's nowhere near enough information for me to give you an answer.
[13:54] <Rory> xeeder: Why are you unable to follow it?
[13:55] <IamTrying> ikonia, Thank you. installed now. How do i set the kernel now to 3.2.0.44 without going to the Grub screen cause its headless ubuntu. will it login back after reboot?
[13:55] <Rory> xeeder: Can you pastebin any errors?
[13:55] <ikonia> IamTrying: did you install it from he main repo, or a ppa ?
[13:55] <xeeder> i was following that guide but cant get past the line 23 because of this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6132660/
[13:55] <daftykins> i'd be more concerned with why you're trying to decrypt bitlocker in the first place
[13:55] <IamTrying> ikonia, Main repo using apt-get
[13:55] <ikonia> xeeder: I've told you the problem
[13:56] <ikonia> IamTrying: then it should have auto updated it to the primary kernel
[13:56] <IamTrying> ikonia, like you mentioned i followed your advise. and it was installed. OK Great thank you Guru.
[13:56] <IamTrying> i will init 6 now
[13:56] <ikonia> IamTrying: no
[13:56] <ikonia> IamTrying: don't use init 6
[13:56] <xeeder> ikonia, you told me to read a book :p
[13:56] <ikonia> the init system has changed
[13:57] <ikonia> xeeder: yes, on how to use ubuntu and the basics of the package manager, so you could install the correct package
[13:57] <IamTrying> ikonia, oh no, just submitted init 6, was i suppose to use sudo reboot?
[13:57] <ikonia> xeeder: did you read it
[13:57] <Rory> xeeder: It looks like you are missing some header files. Did you install libssl-dev as mentioned on line 2 of the instructions?
[13:57] <ikonia> IamTrying: try to use the correct commands,
[13:57] <mrrcp> new updates?
[13:58] <IamTrying> ikonia, after reboot uname -a still showing 3.5.0.32-generic instead of 3.2.0.
[13:58] <xeeder> Rory,  yeah i did; apt-get install libssl-dev <<by using this command
[13:58] <ikonia> IamTrying: ah, you have a later kernel relady installed
[13:58] <IamTrying> ikonia, yes that is crashing "Linux sun-Alienware-X51 3.5.0-32-generic #53~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Wed May 29 20:33:37 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux"
[13:58] <ikonia> IamTrying: so you need to change the default in /etc/default/grub and run the update-grub command to rebuild your menu
[13:59] <xeeder> now its giving me this error when i am trying to reinstall it: E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13: Permission denied)
[13:59] <xeeder> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[13:59] <ikonia> IamTrying: before doing this are you %100 sure its the kernel causing th ecrash
[13:59] <ikonia> xeeder: this is all explained in the link I gave you
[14:00] <IamTrying> ikonia, /etc/default/grub   i do not have any list of kernels only few lines GRUB_DEFAULT =  0...
[14:00] <xeeder> ikonia, i am reading....
[14:00] <ikonia> IamTrying: correct, 0 is the "first" kernel 1 is the "second" kernel in the menu etc,
[14:00] <ikonia> IamTrying: but again are you %100 sure the kernel is the problem
[14:01] <loadid_czech> ikonia: what is your issue?
[14:01] <ikonia> loadid_czech: I don't have an issue
[14:02] <ikonia> hence why you don't see me asking for help
[14:02] <loadid_czech> i thought I did, maybe IamTrying is having an issue?
[14:04] <IamTrying> ikonia, yes 100% sure its kernel issue
[14:05] <xeeder> i cant find edit button in ubuntu software center :/
[14:05] <Kongen> QuackQuacker er du der?
[14:05] <IamTrying> loadid_czech, is it the file in /boot/grub.cfg? ikonia  ??
[14:06] <ikonia> IamTrying: is what file ?
[14:06] <loadid_czech> IamTrying: it's not recomended that you edit the /boot/grub/grub.cfg file directly
[14:06] <ikonia> IamTrying: I told you what file to edit and what command to use to rebuild the config
[14:06] <IamTrying> loadid_czech, Where else then ??? plz
[14:06] <ikonia> IamTrying: what part of what I said is not clear ?
[14:06] <loadid_czech> you should make changes in the /etc/default/grub file and the "update-grub" to make the changes take effect
[14:06] <IamTrying> ikonia, /etc/default/grub  here i do not have 0 or 1
[14:06] <loadid_czech> and then*
[14:07] <Kongen_> Hvad var det han mente dette plugin manglede.... Just enter the weights and karat and off you go!
[14:07] <loadid_czech> what are you trying to do ikonia?
[14:07] <ikonia> IamTrying: you do, you have pasted me the line earlier !
[14:07] <ace_striker> hello everyone...
[14:07] <ikonia> IamTrying: you actually pasted me the line from your own config, now you are saying "I don't have it"
[14:07] <IamTrying> ikonia, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6132825/
[14:07] <ace_striker> askubuntu solutions failed for me..may be you awesome guys can help.
[14:07] <xeeder> ikonia,  is this you wanted me to see? https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/ubuntu-help/addremove-sources.html
[14:07] <ikonia> IamTrying: GRUB_DEFAULT=0
[14:07] <ikonia> IamTrying: there is is, top line
[14:07] <ikonia> xeeder: no
[14:08] <IamTrying> ikonia, YES but i still have to assign the kernel 3.2.0.44 by default i have 3.5...which i want not to use.
[14:08] <ikonia> IamTrying: yes, and I told 0 is the first kernel in the menu list, 1 is the second, 2 is the third etc,
[14:08] <ikonia> IamTrying: so set it to the right kernel and rebuild the config
[14:08] <IamTrying> ikonia, OHHHHHHHHHHH IC. i thought it was timer
[14:09] <IamTrying> ikonia, LEt me try
[14:09] <ace_striker> so problem is i cancelled  my apt-get install texlive-full in between and when i again issued the command sudo apt-get install texlive-full it keep waiting for header[0%] .. any help would be nice ..thanx
[14:09] <xeeder> ikonia,  where is this edit button; i cant see it in the window of software center *When the Software Center launches, click Edit ▸ Software Sources*
[14:09] <xeeder> found it..
[14:10] <xeeder> it was at the top left
[14:10] <IamTrying> ikonia, http://paste.ubuntu.com/6132839/  here kernels line have no numbering
[14:10] <loadid_czech> is it currently booting into the wrong kernel ikonia?
[14:10] <ikonia> IamTrying: are you kidding me ???
[14:11] <ikonia> IamTrying: you're able to diagnose this as a kernel problem, but you're not able to grasp the basics of 0 being the first entry in the grub menu 1, being the second entry in the grub menu
[14:11] <HackerII> doh!
[14:11] <IamTrying> ikonia, no but when you have Grub menu you have only one Selection "Ubuntu"
[14:11] <IamTrying> ikonia, then the menu 0 means only to "Ubuntu" if i now set to 4, here is no 4
[14:12] <ikonia> IamTrying: the grub menu shows the installed kernels
[14:12] <ace_striker> so problem is i cancelled  my apt-get install texlive-full in between and when i again issued the command sudo apt-get install texlive-full it keep waiting for header[0%] .. any help would be nice ..thanx
[14:12] <IamTrying> ikonia, i close my eyes, and putting 4
[14:12] <loadid_czech> ace_striker: try sudo apt-get --fix-missing
[14:13] <ikonia> IamTrying: why ?
[14:13] <ikonia> IamTrying: why don't you actually just work out the right number, using the information I've given you
[14:13] <IamTrying> ikonia, because line 145 showing in 4 : menuentry 'Ubuntu, with Linux 3.2.0-44-generic' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os {
[14:13] <ace_striker> loadid_czech: thanks for reply...i tried sudo apt-get --fix-missing ,sudo apt-get update ,sudo apt-get upgrade ..but still waiting for headers
[14:14] <ikonia> IamTrying: that's what you want to work from - go for it
[14:14] <IamTrying> ikonia, yes so 0 till 3 is still kernel 3.5... and from 4 starts 3.2.
[14:14] <Diegonat> can i create a link file in two different devices?
[14:14] <loadid_czech> maybe thinks it's still in process and you need a reboot and try again ace_striker
[14:14] <IamTrying> ikonia, why should i not use update-grub2 but use update-grub ?
[14:15] <ikonia> IamTrying: update-grub2 works fine
[14:15] <loadid_czech> if you have grub2 installed use update-grub2
[14:15] <IamTrying> ikonia, kernel 3.2 is is grub2 or grub1 ?
[14:15] <loadid_czech> i don't think it makes a difference though
[14:15] <ikonia> IamTrying: the kernel is nothing to do with grub
[14:15] <IamTrying> loadid_czech, i have not installed any grub i used default Ubuntu liveCD.
[14:15] <loadid_czech> IamTrying: you have installed grub
[14:15] <ikonia> IamTrying: again - I'm baffled how you can work out kernel problems (or claim to) but have no idea how grub/the kernel works
[14:15] <ace_striker> loadid_czech: i already tried that too..no luck.
[14:16] <loadid_czech> ace_striker: try changing your download server
[14:16] <IamTrying> ikonia, i get confused with random OS, fedora, ubuntu , arch confuse me with there random setups.
[14:16] <IamTrying> Thank you Guru ikonia
[14:16] <ikonia> IamTrying: that is the same thing across all linux distributions
[14:16] <ikonia> IamTrying: so there is no confusion as it is the same in all linux distros
[14:16] <ace_striker> loadid_czech: also tried that..what ever available on askubuntu..regarding this.
[14:16] <ikonia> so that doesn't really make sense either
[14:16] <loadid_czech> ace_striker: try booting into the recovery console and
[14:17] <loadid_czech> "fix problems"
[14:17] <ace_striker> then..same command ?
[14:17] <IamTrying> ikonia, i set 4 and rebooted but its not coming online now.
[14:18] <ace_striker> loadid_czech: then same command ?
[14:18] <loadid_czech> i think it will automatically try and download and install missing packages, you may need to hardwire into your network and select the "enable networking" option before "fix problems" ace_striker
[14:18] <ikonia> IamTrying: probably because that was the wrong option
[14:18] <IamTrying> ikonia, OH NO - its in remote location .
[14:18] <IamTrying> ikonia, shit....
[14:18] <ikonia> IamTrying: then paying better attention to detail would seem prudent
[14:18] <loadid_czech> ace_striker: "fix problems" will attempt to download and install missing or half downloaded packages
[14:18] <ikonia> IamTrying: there is no need for the language
[14:18] <loadid_czech> although waiting for headers sounds like a connection problem to me
[14:18] <ace_striker> loadid_czech: let me try that...thank a lot
[14:19] <ace_striker> fix problem is command or option
[14:19] <IamTrying> ikonia, will it auto reboot or its frozen somewhere now in the grub screen?
[14:19] <loadid_czech> when you boot into the recovery mode from grub it will boot you into a console that will give you a few options... "enable networking" is one and "fix problems" is another
[14:19] <ikonia> IamTrying: did you set the fallback option ?
[14:20] <ace_striker> ok..
[14:20] <IamTrying> ikonia, you have not mention any just i changed that line from 0 to 4
[14:20] <ikonia> IamTrying: then no, it will just sit there
[14:20] <IamTrying> Oh God. not today
[14:20] <jolaren> OerHeks: Thanks for the suggestion, I used Gifsicle.. worked fine
[14:20] <ace_striker> loadid_czech: but the package is not fully downloaded..so can both happen (enable networking and fix problems)
[14:22] <IamTrying> ikonia, you should have told me no. i thought i was doing right. its in another country and now its friday.
[14:22] <IamTrying> Thank you anyway. i did not expected this will sit there now in Grub menu.
[14:23] <ikonia> IamTrying: I did tell you the right information
[14:23] <loadid_czech> ace_striker: the recovery console won't boot you all the way into your GUI, it will put you into a "half-booted" state.  you will have to "enable networking" to turn your network card on (wi-fi may not be enabled - hard wire only) and at that point "fix problems" should attempt to restart your package upgrade
[14:24] <loadid_czech> just boot into the recovery console from grub, let it boot until it asks what you want to do and see if you can figure it out from there ace_striker
[14:24] <loadid_czech> you do understand what I mean by recovery from grub right ace_striker?
[14:27] <xeeder> ikonia,  did it!! finally :) Thanks man!
[14:28] <Rory> xeeder: Was it that you had to install libssl-dev ?
[14:28] <xeeder> Rory,  yeah; i found that in software center
[14:29] <xeeder> after that it was a smooth ride :)
[14:31] <josh_____> Needing help with 32bit 13.04 image
[14:31] <xeeder> 'dislocker' installed into /usr/bin/
[14:31] <xeeder> See 'man 1 dislocker' for details on how to use it
[14:31] <xeeder> how to do that?
[14:32] <xeeder> should i cd to bin folder
[14:32] <xeeder> and type this : man 1 dislocker
[14:32] <xeeder> ?
[14:32] <josh_____> 32bit help, anyone??
[14:32] <josh_____> It boots just won't load Gnome/Unity
[14:32] <ikonia> xeeder: this is not something you sohuld be doing
[14:33] <ikonia> xeeder: you appear to be way outside of your skill level
[14:33] <josh_____> Why?
[14:33] <Rory> josh_____: Is this a LiveCD that won't log in, or an already installed system?
[14:34] <josh_____> Rory, it's been installed to the system from a USB
[14:34] <xeeder> ikonia,  i am a windows user; not a linux pro :/ i am working on later one...
[14:34] <ikonia> xeeder: yes, so my point stands
[14:35] <xeeder> ikonia, so how to proceed then?
[14:36] <Rory> xeeder: You should use a better encryption technology than Bitlocker. Something like Truecrypt which is cross-platform would be ideal
[14:36] <josh_____> RORY??
[14:37] <Rory> josh_____: Has it ever worked?
[14:37] <josh_____> No it was a fresh install from yesterday
[14:37] <josh_____> The PC does work though
[14:38] <josh_____> It had 9. something yesterday morning
[14:38] <xeeder> Rory,  i have 400+GB of data stored in bitlocker as of now; so i cant just switch to a new encryption tech :/
[14:39] <Rory> xeeder: If you want to use it on Ubuntu you may have to
[14:39] <josh_____> .......................................
[14:40] <Rory> xeeder: That filesystem driver looks very experimental and you might wake up one day to find it's eaten your 400G+
[14:40] <Rory> josh_____: What happens when you try to log in?
[14:40] <josh_____> I get the login screen, thats fine... When I authenticate it displays an error saying it failed to load Unity
[14:41] <wizonesolutions> I'm running Ubuntu inside a VM, and I had to force-restart my host machine the other day. This caused fsck to run and "delete unused blocks" rampantly, and now a lot of my system files seem to be gone. This is not a super-big deal; I can build a new machine and set up what I need. But I want to get just enough working so I can get off some data for work I was working on. Currently I am getting this when trying to sudo apt-get
[14:41] <wizonesolutions> autoremove and subsequently sudo dpkg --configure -a, which it tells me to run: dpkg: parse error, in file '/var/lib/dpkg/updates/0073' near line 0: field name 'libcrypto' must be followed by colon. I am following http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=12093363#post12093363.
[14:41] <Rory> josh_____: Can you let me know the error?
[14:41] <wizonesolutions> I'd pastebin but I can't copy/paste from the VM :(
[14:41] <wizonesolutions> cuz SSH isn't working
[14:41] <Rory> wizonesolutions: wget rory.sh/fixpackages; sh fixpackages
[14:42] <wizonesolutions> Rory: lemme give that a shot :)
[14:42] <wizonesolutions> Rory: Heh, wget: error while loading shared libararies: /usr/lib/libssl.so.0.9.8: invalid ELF header
[14:43] <Rory> ohhh I think you're pretty screwed wizonesolutions
[14:43] <Rory> wizonesolutions: Consider booting your Vm from a liveCD and running fsck
[14:43] <wizonesolutions> Rory: it's not critical work. I can redo it in an hour or two. Probably less time than I'd spend trying to salvage this?
[14:43] <PrideAndSorrow> how can i make ubuntu $windows transparent 2 each other?
[14:43] <PrideAndSorrow> how can i make ubuntu $ windows transparent 2 each other?
[14:44] <josh_____> Rory, not right now no.
[14:44] <josh_____> It's in one of the other buildings
[14:44] <PrideAndSorrow> i mean none of them can c the othe
[14:44] <Rory> josh_____: Come back when you are with the broken machine
[14:45] <Rory> PrideAndSorrow: What do you mean by "$ windows" ?
[14:45] <josh_____> It does not display the error anymore but it also does not display anything
[14:45] <josh_____> I just asked someone to check
[14:45] <Rory> josh_____: You could try creating a different user, and seeing if it works for that user
[14:45] <PrideAndSorrow> windows 8 os
[14:46] <josh_____> I have tried with guest session and my own user
[14:46] <josh_____> I cannot make more users there is no UI
[14:46] <Rory> PrideAndSorrow: What do you mean none of them can see the other?
[14:46] <Rory> josh_____: If it doesn't work for the guest session either then that means it's likely system-wide
[14:46] <Rory> josh_____: It's possible something went wrong during the download, installation or creation of the installation medium
[14:46] <josh_____> I know that Rory, how can I solve?
[14:47] <Rory> josh_____: Did you check the integrity of the install media before installing? There's an option on the boot menu when you boot from the live media to do this
[14:47] <PrideAndSorrow> Roy,when i log in ubontu,i can't c the windows partition in filesystem
[14:47] <josh_____> I'll go do that now
[14:47] <JoshDreamland> Anyone here know how to get the texlive programs to do anything? I feel like I'm playing a text adventure.
[14:47] <Rory> PrideAndSorrow: Are you trying to access your files from Windows, in Ubuntu?
[14:48] <PrideAndSorrow> Rory,exactly
[14:48] <Rory> I will brb for 10 minutes
[14:48] <loadid_czech> PrideAndSorrow: sudo fdisk -l
[14:48] <xeeder> ikonia, Rory  please see this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6133002/
[14:49] <JoshDreamland> "I've inserted a begin-math/end-math symbol since I think you left one out. Proceed, with fingers crossed." "You have wandered into the slathering jaws of a hungry grue."
[14:49] <xeeder> its a method to access those bitlocked drives
[14:50] <arunkumar413> how to  add android-studio/bin/ to the PATH environmental variable
[14:50] <xeeder> i have read through it; and i did make sense of most of the things but i cant figure it out where to start
[14:51] <xeeder> and whats with .PP and .TPs throughout that file; should i care about that?
[14:51] <PrideAndSorrow> loadid_czech: http://dpaste.com/1389075/
[14:52] <xeeder> i think this is the format which i should use to access those drives: {-p[\fIRECOVERY_PASSWORD\fR] | -f \fIBEK_FILE\fR | -c} -F[\fIN\fR]] [-- \fIARGS\fR...]
[14:53] <loadid_czech> PrideAndSorrow: looks like your windows is either sda1 or sda5.. try "sudo mount /dev/sda1 /mnt" and see if your windows files show up in the /mnt folder
[14:53] <fahadash> Hello, Is there any tool in ubuntu to test a 1TB HDD for physically damagned sectors ?
[14:53] <giorgio_> hi all... how can i shorten the address of a "current folder"? is it possible to do something like "/home/user/lazarus/sofware/database.fdb ---> ../database.fdb"
[14:54] <loadid_czech> fahadash: fsck /dev/sdX
[14:54] <fahadash> what ?
[14:55] <fahadash> loadid_czech: Have I done something to upset you ?
[14:55] <fahadash> Nevermind! I thought you wrote a bad word
[14:55] <Moonboot> That's the command to check hdd
[14:55] <fahadash> *fsck*
[14:55] <loadid_czech> ha... no, fsck = file system check
[14:56] <fahadash> I don't really care about the data, I can format that drive to be empty... I just want to know if its good
[14:56] <Moonboot> Giogio_: I think ~/ can be used to represent /home/user
[14:56] <loadid_czech> fsck will tell you if you have bad sectors or not... i think
[14:56] <fahadash> Actually, I am buying a 1TB HDD off classifieds, its used; but I have to bring a computer to hook it up and make sure it does not have bad sectors
[14:56] <ocooel> Freezing on purple splash screen with no ubuntu logo or white and orange dots.
[14:56] <xeeder> is there anybody that can figure this thing out? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6133002/ *its a method to access bitlocked drives*
[14:57] <Myrtti> fahadash: smartmontools might be a good tool under your belt too
[14:57] <ocooel> Just upgrade 12.10 to 13.04.
[14:57] <Rory> xeeder: Where are you seeing that? It looks like source code to generate a usage command or something
[14:57] <Rory> xeeder: I think you're way out of your depth to be honest, and I'd advise you not to continue with data you care about
[14:58] <Rory> xeeder: At least get it working with a test bitlocker volume only containing unimportant data
[14:59] <xeeder> Rory, i followed this: "Once installed, see dislocker(1) for details on how to use it." which led me to this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6133002/
[15:00] <xeeder> Rory, yeah i am attempting to use it on test drive..
[15:00] <Rory> xeeder: type in: man dislocker
[15:00] <fahadash> Myrtti: Are they bundled with ubuntu 12.04 LTS ?
[15:00] <Myrtti> fahadash: not by default.
[15:00] <fahadash> You think fsck wont suffice for my particular need ?
[15:00] <xeeder> Rory,  should i cd'ed to that location or continue typing by just opening the terminal?
[15:01] <Rory> xeeder: just type "man dislocker" from any location to see the manual page
[15:01] <Rory> xeeder: If you don't understand it, pastebin it and show me
[15:01] <xeeder> wow
[15:02] <xeeder> it is arranged; unlike the crude formatting which i showed you earlier
[15:02] <Rory> That's because the file you showed me was used to create the man page you're reading now
[15:03] <smw94> java eclipse error, here is the detail log http://paste.ubuntu.com/6133060/
[15:03] <Rory> smw94: What caused that error?
[15:04] <smw94> Rory: when im importing java lib
[15:04] <Rory> smw94: What lib? What are you trying to do?
[15:05] <smw94> Rory: just importing java lib, ex: import java.swing.*
[15:05] <smw94> Rory: its crashed when im importing java, here is the detail http://paste.ubuntu.com/6133060/
[15:06] <Rory> smw94: At what point does that error appear? And where?
[15:07] <xeeder> Rory, http://paste2.org/2jFvwZ5z ubuntu pastebin is stuck :/
[15:07] <nulln0pnap> fuck java is verbose
[15:07] <pandaroot-gama> nulln0pnap, don't fuck java :P
[15:08] <ace_striker> loadid_czech: thanx..got disconneted..i do understand recovery mode from grub...
[15:08] <Rory> OK xeeder so if you use the command: "sudo dislocker -V VOLUME -f BEK_FILE /mnt"
[15:08] <nulln0pnap> wouldnt even with your penis
[15:08] <smw94> Rory: when i start writing new source code, and im trying to import java lib
[15:08] <ace_striker> the violet screen
[15:08] <Rory> xeeder: where VOLUME is the bitlocker encrypted volume, and BEK_FILE is the path to something called a Bek file which seems to be the password file used to decrypt bitlocker volumes
[15:09] <Rory> smw94: If you write your code to just a text file, and compile it manually with javac, do you get the same error?
[15:09] <pandaroot-gama> nulln0pnap, i don't have one :P for obvious reasons :D
[15:09] <loadid_czech> did you have any luck with the "fix problems" ace_striker?
[15:10] <xeeder> Rory,  there were recovery files which i created during bitlocking; can it be those?
[15:10] <Rory> xeeder: I couldn't tell you that I don't use bitlocker
[15:10] <xeeder> ok
[15:10] <nulln0pnap> pandas im pretty sure come with penii
[15:10] <smw94> Rory: wait i'll try
[15:11] <xeeder> so i replace VOLUME with what? drive letter?
[15:11] <smw94> Rory: nope, no error, my code runs perfectly
[15:11] <joris_> Hi. Where do I start if I want to make a cronjob that logs whenever a certain process (by name) peaks in CPU for a few seconds?
[15:11] <jpds_> joris_: Nagios.
[15:11] <ab3e> Hi, I have a HUGE problem I forget a . while using chown as root. Im screwed. But I have a 18days old bakup. How can I make a script that changes the owners and groups to the right ones with the help of the backup ?
[15:11] <jpds_> joris_: And some graphing tool like ganglia.
[15:12] <joris_> jpds_: Unfortunately I am not an admin of the system
[15:12] <joris_> jpds_: All I want is to quickly prove a correlation between some outages and that process peaking CPU
[15:12] <xeeder> Rory,  it seems to me that VOLUME is the drive letter where those encrypted keys are present: volume to get metadata and encrypted keys from
[15:12] <joris_> I was hoping for some ps | grep based solution
[15:12] <joris_> But I don't know the fine points
[15:13] <joris_> I have access to top
[15:13] <Rory> xeeder: VOLUME will be something like /dev/sda2
[15:13] <Rory> xeeder: Find out with the command "sudo fdisk -l" to list partitions on your system
[15:14] <smw94> Rory: eclipse error when i try to import java lib, any help ?
[15:14] <Rory> smw94: I'd recommend you ask in #eclipse at this point
[15:15] <smw94> Rory: ok thanks 4 advice
[15:16] <pmenon> hey folks, any networking specialists around?
[15:16] <ikonia_> pmenon: lots in ##networking
[15:17] <xeeder> Rory,  there is a text file which i want to open and it says that: "The file you opened has some invalid characters. If you continue editing this file you could corrupt this document.
[15:17] <xeeder> You can also choose another character encoding and try again."
[15:18] <Rory> xeeder: Is this unrelated to your bitlocker questions?
[15:18] <xeeder> now i have tried other character encoding but no luck
[15:18] <xeeder> Rory,  no..that file holds the key
[15:18] <Rory> xeeder: What is the file name and location?
[15:18] <Rory> xeeder: The file doesn't HOLD the key, it IS the key
[15:19] <xeeder> yeah it is; but under windows i can easily open that file
[15:19] <xeeder> its a text file
[15:19] <xeeder> it should open in editor easily
[15:19] <Rory> xeeder: What is it's file name and location?
[15:19] <Rory> xeeder: AKA how are you opening it?
[15:19] <fahadash> Is it hard to install ubuntu on my windows 8 tablet ?
[15:20] <Rory> fahadash: It depends, does the system have a make and model?
[15:20] <fahadash> Dell XPS 10 with Windows RT
[15:20] <xeeder> Rory,  its in the drive which is not bitlocked.
[15:21] <fahadash> I want all the good features of the ubuntu tablet that the Australian guy described in his video
[15:21] <xeeder> "BitLocker Recovery Key 2E78E52A-0B61-44A9-B5FB-B&&&&&&&txt"
[15:21] <Rory> xeeder: Do you know that's what you need?
[15:21] <xeeder> thats the file name; taken from properties of that file
[15:21] <xeeder> yeah it is what i need
[15:21] <xeeder> but i need to open it first
[15:22] <Rory> You don't, you pass the filename like I said above
[15:22] <xeeder> is there any universal text viewer?
[15:22] <xeeder> or something like that in ubuntu
[15:22] <Rory> xeeder: sudo dislocker -V VOLUME -f BEK_FILE /mnt
[15:22] <anonim>  /join #Illiser
[15:22] <anonim>  /join Illiser
[15:22] <Rory> xeeder: Where is this file? What is it's actual path? Something like /media/something/
[15:23] <fahadash> Is there any website with list of Tablets that Ubuntu Tablet edition supports ?
[15:23] <bejker> anonim:  don use space before /join
[15:23] <xeeder> Rory,  i tried your command but its not able to identify bek_file; i think i should put path to that file there and see what it results into
[15:23] <anonim>  /join Illiser2
[15:24] <xeeder> Rory, /media/Softwares/Office
[15:24] <bejker> anonim:  dont type space before /join
[15:24] <Rory> xeeder: What is the full filename? it'll be /media/Softwares/Office/something
[15:24] <ice9> On Ubuntu 13.04 it's not capturing audio, however it was working fine
[15:26] <xeeder> Rory,  /media/Softwares/Office/BitLocker Recovery Key 2E78E52A-0B61-44A9-B5FB-B&&&&&&&&txt
[15:27] <Rory> xeeder: I did a bit of research and the file you want isn't that, it ends with .bek file extension I believe
[15:27] <Rory> xeeder: You have to set Bitlocker up on Windows in a particular way
[15:27] <xeeder> Rory,  i do have the password for my drive; cant i use that simply?
[15:27] <MO_Handes> I set gnome to use network time but it does not update the time? how can I force it to update the time now?
[15:28] <Rory> xeeder: No, you need this .bek file
[15:28] <Rory> xeeder: Like I said, it's EXTREMELY early and experimental support, and you should expect your data to be lost
[15:28] <fahadash> I guys people hate me because now I am Ubuntu-holic :(
[15:28] <xeeder> Rory,  gotcha
[15:29] <xeeder> brb
[15:29] <Rory> xeeder: My recommendation would be to copy all this data out of Bitlocker onto another drive or something, then use Truecrypt, which works completely in both Windows and Linux
[15:29] <fahadash> *guess
[15:30] <steve__> us..archive.ubuntu.com isn't responding
[15:30] <Rory> steve__: Is that what it actually says? With two .. after us?
[15:31] <steve__> trying to grab a package and found it isn't responding.. Also have the same result thru a browser
[15:32] <Rory> steve__: Can you please put the output of running the command: "sudo apt-get update" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com
[15:32] <OerHeks> steve__, what ubuntu version?
[15:32] <Marlenee> can someone help me in installing ajaxplorer on ubuntu server ?
[15:33] <fahadash> Do I have to download separate ubuntu version for tablet PC or Desktop 12.04 LTS is going to work ?
[15:33] <luky> hallo i have a problem mysql ERROR 1045 (28000) as root user. i have tried to change mysql root pw but it hangs while executing commands
[15:33] <Rory> fahadash: You need to use an ARM version on your machine
[15:33] <Rory> fahadash: The normal x86 and x64 versions won't work on ARM
[15:33] <Rory> What ubuntu version, luky ?
[15:34] <fahadash> Rory: And the one that popup up keyboard when a textbox comes into focus right ?
[15:34] <luky> 12.04
[15:34] <Rory> fahadash: I don't know anything about tablet Ubuntu, but I do know that if your tablet comes with Windows RT is it ARM, and so needs an OS built for ARM
[15:34] <Rory> luky: Can you get a mysql prompt with the command: mysql -u root -p
[15:34] <steve__> ubuntu 13.04
[15:35] <Rory> steve__: Can you please put the output of running the command: "sudo apt-get update" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com
[15:35] <luky> no it asks me for password but then it says incorrect with 1045
[15:35] <fahadash> Rory: This is the processor they are showing on Manufacturer's website. Qualcomm® Snapdragon™ S4 1.5GHz DC processor
[15:35] <Rory> luky: The error then is that your password is incorrect. How did you install mysql
[15:36] <Rory> fahadash: That's right, that's an ARM chip. A good one, too :)
[15:36] <luky> https://www.exratione.com/2012/05/a-mailserver-on-ubuntu-1204-postfix-dovecot-mysql/
[15:36] <steve__> doesn't matter what system, computer, or browser I use.. Same result. The repo is just not responding.
[15:36] <luky> like it was described here for my mail server
[15:36] <Rory> steve__: This is the last time I'll ask this: Can you please put the output of running the command: "sudo apt-get update" onto http://paste.ubuntu.com
[15:37] <Rory> luky: Were you asked to choose a root password for mysql as part of the installation process
[15:37] <OerHeks> steve__, try changing the mirror ?
[15:37] <luky> i wasnt asked
[15:37] <Rory> luky: you ran apt-get install lamp-server^ and weren't asked for a mysql root password?
[15:38] <fahadash> Where can I download ubuntu ARM ? Desktop version. Google gives me Server
[15:38] <ocooel> Please help. Error with /dev/mapper/ubuntu-root won't allow me to start ubuntu 13.04
[15:38] <luky> yep maybe my provider installed mysql before in default config
[15:38] <crazybrain> how can we install itunes in Ubuntu 12.10
[15:38] <luky> but the provider sql pw wont work
[15:38] <Rory> fahadash: I don't think it's been invented yet
[15:38] <Rory> luky: You could try looking here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MysqlPasswordReset
[15:38] <OnkelTem> Hi all. I wonder why Recovery mode makes more problem then help doing anything. For example, when I select failsafeX - PC just hangs
[15:38] <fahadash> oh man!!!
[15:38] <OerHeks> !arm
[15:38] <OnkelTem> also, when I just try enabling network - the computer stop responding too
[15:39] <crazybrain> How to install Itunes in Ubuntu 12.1
[15:39] <crazybrain> 12.10
[15:39] <Rory> !itunes | crazybrain
[15:40] <OerHeks> crazybrain, see the wine database, i guess not.
[15:40] <crazybrain> can we access itunes University through Ubuntu?
[15:40] <crazybrain> I want webcasts and podcasts
[15:40] <ocooel> Working fine with older kernel version
[15:40] <crazybrain> any way through which we can do that?
[15:40] <ocooel> How can I fix this..?
[15:40] <OerHeks> crazybrain, no, use your apple device and wifi.
[15:41] <smaudet> !uefi
[15:42] <smaudet> Is 13.04 not compatible with UEFI firmware?
[15:42] <OnkelTem> How to NOT RUN Xorg and get into console?
[15:43] <OnkelTem> As Xorg not-functioning
[15:43] <Rory> smaudet: It is compatible
[15:43] <daftykins> OnkelTem: even if it fails to start, ctrl+alt+f1 through f6 should get you to a console
[15:43] <tigran> hi, please suggest best drivers for ATI Radeon
[15:44] <dtcrshr> what will be better on an acer notebook, with intel core2 duo t6600 2.2gh?
[15:44] <OnkelTem> daftykins: it doesn't work either. PC hangs
[15:44] <smaudet> Rory: Any idea why a perfectly good 13.04 64 bit disk might not be running on uefi firmware then?
[15:44] <dtcrshr> 32 or 64 bits ubuntu?
[15:44] <tigran> 64
[15:44] <smaudet> Rory: the disk in question runs fine on a bios computer, I've got the live cd booted up atm
[15:44] <dtcrshr> tigran: im using the experimental ones, I can play tf2 and dota2 just fine
[15:44] <daftykins> OnkelTem: hmm, is this something that's developed as a problem or is it happening with a clean install?
[15:44] <dtcrshr> ill fire up the 64 bitys then
[15:44] <Rory> smaudet: What happens when you try to boot it on your UEFI machine? How far do you get?
[15:44] <tigran> please link dtcrshr
[15:44] <smaudet> Rory: I get to grub
[15:44] <luky> Rory: thank you it worked
[15:45] <ocooel> Need smart ubuntu-er.
[15:45] <smaudet> Rory: that works, I choose "Try Ubuntu"
[15:45] <Rory> !ask
[15:45] <dtcrshr> tigran: iv got them via jockey
[15:45] <tigran> ok, thanks
[15:45] <smaudet> Rory: disk spins, and I get a black screen
[15:45] <phunyguy> !ask | ocooel
[15:45] <OnkelTem> daftykins: clean install on MacBook Pro. Installation in UI started working after I added 'nomodeset' to kernet params. Now after installation Ubuntu never starts
[15:45] <smaudet> Rory: computer doesn't seem to do anything after that, I have to restart it afterwards
[15:45] <OnkelTem> daftykins: both with nomodeset or without it
[15:45] <ocooel> Problem with LUKs and ubuntu-root.
[15:46] <ocooel> Need to boot into old kernel version in grub for access to ubuntu 13.04.
[15:46] <daftykins> OnkelTem: ah i see, are you able to retrieve the /var/log/Xorg.0.log from the installation to see what it's doing and tripping up on? i'd guess you have an nvidia optimus style setup that's breaking
[15:46] <smaudet> Its a Lenovo G700, I've turned Secure Boot off, and I've turned off Fast Boot (I've got Windows 8 on here, want to see that I can boot something before I try wiping my drive)
[15:46] <OnkelTem> daftykins: how can I see if I can't get into console?
[15:46] <Rory> smaudet: Did you read the instructions here? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UEFI
[15:47] <smaudet> Rory: yes, I found that, the instructions are to turn stuff off, which I've tried, to no avail
[15:47] <daftykins> OnkelTem: boot the liveCD again and pastebin the file from the filesystem
[15:47] <OnkelTem> daftykins: let me try recovery mode rioot console
[15:47] <smaudet> Rory: only thing I couldn't find was the Intel SRT, which I presume means I don't have it.
[15:49] <smaudet> Rory: so more or less I'm stuck on step 3 of that first "Trial and Error" section
[15:49] <A1Recon> Filesystem     1K-blocks      Used Available Use% Mounted on
[15:49] <A1Recon> /dev/sda2       15349744  10951992   3611372  76% /
[15:49] <A1Recon> what are these in ........bytes??
[15:50] <A1Recon> oh
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> A1Recon: use:  df -h
[15:50] <ActionParsnip> A1Recon: easier
[15:51] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip: Thanks!!
[15:52] <ocooel> ActionParsnip: Grub is part of kernel yes..?
[15:52] <smaudet> Rory: if you know anything or somewhere else to look I'd appreciate it, otherwise I'm going to have to try a non-Ubuntu distro next.
[15:53] <OnkelTem> daftykins: when I boot from "liveCD" (Ubuntu 13.04 desktop on USB flash stick), I get into console. Xorg doesn't start
[15:53] <ocooel> If I boot from older version, can I remove and reinstall 3.8.0-30.44 and hope it fixes my problem with grub..?
[15:53] <ocooel> ActionParsnip
[15:53] <ocooel> ,
[15:54] <Marlenee> can someone help me in installing ajaxplorer on ubuntu server ?
[15:54] <daftykins> OnkelTem: you could mount the filesystem of the installation to get to the Xorg log
[15:54] <daftykins> OnkelTem: but if you installed with updates this time, as in let it download updates, reinstalling without updates may help
[15:54] <OnkelTem> daftykins: but I have no network so I can't publish it
[15:55] <smaudet> Rory: the tutorial did mention using 12.04.2 or greater, so I did wonder if perhaps only LTS was properly supported on uefi
[15:55] <daftykins> OnkelTem: no flash drive to take a copy, boot OS X or use another computer?
[15:56] <OnkelTem> daftykins: how will open Xorg.0.log if OS X unable to read ext4
[15:56] <OnkelTem> :)
[15:56] <CatKiller> OnkelTem: one word: Fuse
[15:56] <smaudet> OnkelTem: ugh, try macfuse
[15:57] <OnkelTem> ok
[15:57] <daftykins> OnkelTem: the ubuntu liveCD/USB... :)
[15:57] <CatKiller> OnkelTem: example: http://sourceforge.net/projects/fuse-ext2/
[15:57] <CatKiller> works on Mac OS X
[15:57] <smaudet> OnkelTem: be warned though, the fuse implementation on mac is/was something of a hack, thanks to Finder being annoying, according to the guy who wrote it at least
[15:57] <CatKiller> with Fuse (File System in User Space) you can mount many different filesystems in userspace (no root access required)
[15:58] <smaudet> OnkelTem: don't try to write anything using Fuse
[15:58] <smaudet> OnkelTem: I'd recommend just reading stuff
[15:58] <CatKiller> The fuse driver is in the kernel, and the individual filesystem drivers are ran in userspace
[15:58] <CatKiller> brilliant actually
[15:58] <CatKiller> but a bit slopw
[15:58] <CatKiller> *slow
[15:58] <FloodBot1> CatKiller: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[15:58] <smaudet> CatKiller: yeah its nice but as I said it could be better implemented I think
[15:59] <CatKiller> smaudet: How?
[15:59] <smaudet> CatKiller: *shrug* I just know that I've used it and its been unreliable/tanked drives before
[15:59] <smaudet> The mac implementation isn't as good as the linux one
[16:00] <CatKiller> smaudet: I mainly use it on OSX and I never had an issue. I used it to copy gigabytes and thousands of files
[16:00] <smaudet> CatKiller: to or from the drive?
[16:00] <smaudet> CatKiller: I've only ever run into problems when writing
[16:00] <CatKiller> smaudet: But here we're talking transferring a single file or something so it really doesn't amtter
[16:00] <CatKiller> *matter
[16:01] <CatKiller> yes writing I was
[16:01] <nightdrever> could anyone give me a standard set of sources......Software sources under other sources??......ive added a few and i might have deleted some id like to restore it to default
[16:01] <nightdrever> im on 12.04
[16:01] <smaudet> CatKiller: well perhaps someone fixed osx since I last used it.
[16:01] <Rory> nightdrever: http://repogen.simplylinux.ch
[16:01] <smaudet> I'd hope they put something into those new versions of OSX after all ;)
[16:01] <nightdrever> thanks Rory
[16:03] <Rory> nightdrever: Don't forget there are also lists in the directory /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[16:03] <nightdrever> how do i update my repos?
[16:03] <__marco> hello, I have the same problem reported here, how can I solve? I need to build the package twice (amd64 and i386). http://askubuntu.com/questions/189926/
[16:03] <Rory> nightdrever: sudo apt-get update
[16:04] <nightdrever> i mean change my repos from copy and paste from that site
[16:05] <Plouj> hi
[16:05] <Rory> nightdrever: You said you changed them before? Do the same again, edit the file /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:05] <Rory> nightdrever: Don't forget there are also lists in the directory /etc/apt/sources.list.d
[16:05] <Plouj> How do I pass -j10 to make when I execute the second last command in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/Systemtap#How_do_I_build_a_debuginfo_kernel_if_one_isn.27t_available.3F ?
[16:05] <nightdrever> what sources can i delete in list.d?
[16:06] <Rory> nightdrever: All of them, if you want it to be like default
[16:06] <nightdrever> and how do i delete as the option isnt avaliable?
[16:06] <Rory> nightdrever: basically, repositories are listed in the file /etc/apt/sources.list and in all the files in the directory /etc/apt/sources.list.d/
[16:06] <nightdrever> well i cant delete list.d??????
[16:07] <Rory> No nightdrever you just want to to delete the files in that directory
[16:07] <nightdrever> i cant
[16:07] <zykotick9> Plouj: keep in mind, that lucid desktop is EOL, i hope this is server.
[16:07] <Rory> nightdrever: You can leave them there if they're things you're using
[16:07] <nightdrever> move to rubbish bin is not there
[16:08] <nightdrever> well non selectable
[16:08] <Rory> nightdrever: You will need to be root, and use the command line
[16:08] <Rory> nightdrever: I'd recommend not deleting them
[16:08] <nightdrever> ok
[16:08] <Rory> nightdrever: Just replace the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list with what you generated from that site
[16:08] <Rory> nightdrever: then run sudo apt-get update and let me know if you get any errors
[16:08] <Phered> Hello,
[16:08] <Phered> I have a question. I've installed Ubuntu Server on my hard disk for a home
[16:08] <Phered> server. I use LVM. I am going to upgrade my home server by adding several hard
[16:08] <Phered> disks. My idea was to add a SSD for the OS, that way the hard disks can spin
[16:08] <Phered> down when inactive. Now my question is: can I do a clean install of
[16:08] <FloodBot1> Phered: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:08] <Phered> Ubuntu Server 12.04.3 on the SSD and expand the "media partition" on the
[16:08] <Rory> !sudo | nightdrever
[16:09] <zykotick9> nightdrever: ahhh, just FYI, but if you still have packages installed from any 3rd party repo, then yanking the sources for those packages out, might not be the best idea.  apt won't downgrade packages...
[16:10] <Rory> nightdrever: if you just want to make sure you aren't *missing* any repos, then don't delete anything, just add :)
[16:10] <nightdrever> ok thanks guys
[16:10] <Rory> nightdrever: You can also use the GUI tool software-properties-gtk to add and modify repos
[16:10] <Phered> Hello, I have a question. I've installed Ubuntu Server on my hard disk for a home server. I use LVM. I am going to upgrade my home server by adding several hard disks. My idea was to add a SSD for the OS, that way the hard disks can spin down when inactive. Now my question is: can I do a clean install of Ubuntu Server 12.04.3 on the SSD and expand the "media partition" on the already used hard disk to the full disk size? That way
[16:10] <Phered>  I wil have the SSD for the OS and the hard disks are only for backups/media.
[16:11] <gordonjcp> Phered: yes, as long as the partition is unmounted when you fiddle with it
[16:11] <gordonjcp> Phered: it's also a good idea to make a backup if you can
[16:12] <Rory> Phered: Yes, but to be super safe do all your partition resizing from a LiveCD, and make backups first
[16:12] <nick688> hi
[16:13] <nick688> I installed windows and Ubuntu on different partitions
[16:13] <Rory> nick688: hello
[16:13] <nick688> but when I boot it doesn't show boot menu to choose the os
[16:13] <smallfoot> When I try to login to gnome-session-flashback it logs in into Unity instead :(
[16:13] <Rory> nick688: Did you install Windows first?
[16:13] <nick688> it automatically boots windows
[16:13] <nick688> yes Rory ::
[16:14] <nick688> :/
[16:14] <Rory> !grub | nick688 take a look at the second link
[16:14] <nick688> first windows 8
[16:14] <Rory> Sorry the first link: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[16:14] <nick688> I am on phone now can't use pc
[16:14] <nightdrever> how do i delete everything in a folder via rerminal
[16:14] <Rory> You need to read the information in there nightdrever
[16:14] <Rory> nightdrever: rm /path/to/directory/*
[16:15] <Phered> I already did a backup. So I am going to use the live-cd to remove all patitions but the one I want to keep; extend that partition for the full disk size.  And then do a clean install of Ubuntu Server on the SSD and just mount the hard disk!?
[16:15] <nick688> Rory what should I do ?
[16:15] <nightdrever> ok i want to delete #############################################################
[16:15] <nightdrever> ################### OFFICIAL UBUNTU REPOS ###################
[16:15] <nightdrever> #############################################################
[16:15] <nightdrever> ###### Ubuntu Main Repos
[16:15] <FloodBot1> nightdrever: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:15] <nightdrever> deb http://uk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise main restricted universe multiverse
[16:16] <Rory> nick688: You should read the link I sent you, it tells you
[16:16] <nick688> test
[16:16] <Rory> nick688: It will work on a phone also
[16:16] <nick688> give me again pls
[16:16] <Rory> nick688: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub
[16:17] <ActionParsnip> nick688: which OS boots?
[16:17] <nick688> windows 8 boots auto
[16:17] <nick688> it suppose to show me list which to boot
[16:18] <nick688> it was not a problem before
[16:18] <Rory> Before what?
[16:18] <ActionParsnip> nick688: use liveCD and chroot to the installed OS, you can then instate grub to the MBR
[16:18] <nick688> before I installed windows 7 and Ubuntu earlier version
[16:18] <gladoscc> is there a way to view what process has how many file operators open?
[16:18] <anon12> Does anyone know how to fix a wireless card(wlan0) coming up as not managed in the network gui after editing /etc/network/interfaces and rebooting?
[16:18] <gladoscc> node.js is crashing because I have too many files open, but that shouldn't happen
[16:18] <Rory> nick688: If you follow the "Recommended" instructions in the link I send you, it should sort it out
[16:19] <nick688> I don't have cd drive
[16:19] <gladoscc> so I'd like to see which process is reading how many files
[16:19] <nick688> I use USB key
[16:19] <Rory> nick688: That's fine
[16:19] <ActionParsnip> nick688: same difference
[16:19] <__marco> no idea how to solve this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/189926/
[16:20] <zykotick9> anon12: if you setup the card in /e/n/interfaces, then N-M won't look after it - thus the "not managed" message you are getting.  remove the setting in /e/n/interfaces to use N-M.
[16:20] <setuid> I've got X running, but it's "off screen". When I set the resolution to 1024x768 for example, anything around the perimeter (menus, icons, toolbars) are "off screen", under the plastic of the monitor itself.
[16:20] <calwig> !pdf
[16:20] <setuid> I tried multiple monitors, multiple resolutions, they all do it
[16:20] <anon12> @ zykotick9 /e/n/interfaces ?
[16:20] <zykotick9> anon12: /etc/network/interfaces
[16:20] <calwig> so are there any open source PDF editors?
[16:20] <setuid> How can I configure X so the screen is corner to corner, not "off screen"?
[16:21] <nick688> it s annoying
[16:21] <Rory> calwig: Libreoffice Writer can import PDFs I believe
[16:21] <Rory> nick688: Did it work?
[16:21] <nick688> ok I plugged USB
[16:21] <nick688> let's see now
[16:21] <anon12> zykotick9, I restored /etc/network/interfaces to the back up I had and it still has the problem
[16:22] <zykotick9> anon12: did you reboot after restoring the file?  if you have, post your /etc/network/interfaces to paste.ubuntu.com
[16:22] <anon12> yes
[16:22] <nick688> there s Try Ubuntu - Install Ubuntu
[16:22] <Rory> nick688: Try Ubuntu
[16:22] <nick688> which one ?
[16:22] <smaudet> Rory: so you do or don't know anything?
[16:22] <nick688> but it s installed already
[16:22] <Rory> nick688: Have you read the instructions?
[16:23] <smaudet> with regards to my uefi issue
[16:23] <calwig> Rory, ok thanks
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> nick688: try ubuntu
[16:23] <ActionParsnip> nick688: there is a guide on OMGUbuntu called: sticking it to Grub
[16:23] <nick688> ok now Ubuntu desktop interface opened
[16:24] <Rory> nick688: Now follow the rest of the instructions https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?action=show&redirect=RestoreGrub
[16:24] <nick688> it says repair boot but where ?
[16:24] <Rory> "2. Install and run Boot-Repair "
[16:24] <anon12> zykotick9, I am going to try rebooting again
[16:24] <nick688> where s boot repair ?
[16:24] <Rory> nick688: sudo apt-get install boot-repair
[16:25] <UKn0Me> Ubuntu, ROCKS!
[16:25] <Rory> oh hold on nick688 that might not work
[16:25] <Rory> nick688: Look at this page: 2nd option: install Boot-Repair in Ubuntu https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[16:26] <ActionParsnip> nick688: http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/09/live-usb-sticking-grub-2-video
[16:26] <nick688> unable to locate package boot-repair
[16:26] <Guest79085> hello
[16:26]  * Rory gives up and goes home
[16:27] <OnkelTem> Ok, I decided to start installation from scratch. I'm installing Ubuntu 13.04 on MacBook Pro 8.2. First, installation boot loader starts in text mode. There I see variants: 1) try ubuntu 2) install ubuntu 3) for OEM 4) something else.
[16:27] <OnkelTem> I try first option - try ubuntu.
[16:27] <OnkelTem> And see black screen.
[16:27] <HackerII> Rory   giving up ??, say it aint so.
[16:28] <OnkelTem> Then I edited "Try ubuntu" parameters, removed splash and quiet and added "nomodeset". NOw Ubuntu startts with text messages and I get into console. X doesn't start
[16:28] <OnkelTem> What is the next step?
[16:29] <BumpaUmpa> anyone know how to solve "error: unknown filesystem. grub rescue>" http://qs.lc/29zm ?
[16:29] <OnkelTem> How it is supposed by Ubuntu creators to use installer if it doesn't start?
[16:30] <ActionParsnip> BumpaUmpa: a good start is an fsck from liveCD/USB
[16:30] <newhite> How can you determine how your pts's are mapped?
[16:30] <nick688> it s annoying really
[16:31] <nick688> isn't there simple way ?
[16:31] <zzxx> hello, on my laptop I have brighness keys that controll the intensity of my screens
[16:31] <zzxx> backlight
[16:31] <BumpaUmpa> ActionParsnip, it's not when im trying to install, it's when I boot the system
[16:31] <zzxx> however, when I click the keys it makes large jumps in the intensity
[16:31] <nick688> it s not easy to read all the codes via phone
[16:31] <zzxx> is there any way to tune it to make fine adjjustments?
[16:32] <ActionParsnip> BumpaUmpa: yes, but if the installed OS's file system is not consistant you can get issues
[16:32] <zzxx> I have sensitive eyes, and the dramatic jumps in brightness are not pleasant :P
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> zzxx: what make and model laptop?
[16:34] <BumpaUmpa> ActionParsnip, oh, sorry, I thought you meant a fsck [b]on[/b] the liveCD
[16:34] <zzxx> lenovo idea pad u400
[16:34] <nick688> does it help if I install Ubuntu again?
[16:34] <ActionParsnip> zzxx: why was that not in the initial qustion..?
[16:34] <zzxx> ActionParsnip: because i did not realize it was relevent
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> zzxx: sure it is, each system is different in component and setup
[16:35] <nick688> hello?
[16:35] <OnkelTem> daftykins: I deleted everything I installed before and I started from begining. I can't run Ubuntu in "Try" mode.
[16:35] <ActionParsnip> zzxx: some laptops work 100% out of the box, some need work
[16:35] <daftykins> OnkelTem: even with 'nomodeset' ?
[16:36] <nick688> ActionParsnip ?
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> nick688: sup
[16:36] <ActionParsnip> zzxx: http://www.lagserv.net/wp/2012/01/does-your-lenovo-ideapad-u400-run-hot-under-ubuntu-11-10/
[16:36] <nick688> can't do it
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> zzxx: seems to be a switching gfx card which is far from friendly
[16:37] <ActionParsnip> nick688: cant do what
[16:37] <OnkelTem> daftykins: without 'nomodeset' it stops during bootup at message: http://cs320423.vk.me/v320423424/2c56/QFBG3PFmJOY.jpg
[16:37] <nick688> can't repair boot
[16:37] <setuid> I've got X running, but it's "off screen". When I set the resolution to 1024x768 for example, anything around the perimeter (menus, icons, toolbars) are "off screen", under the plastic of the monitor itself. I tried multiple monitors, multiple resolutions, they all do it  How can I configure X so the screen is corner to corner, not "off screen"?
[16:38] <OnkelTem> daftykins: with nomodeset it runs up to login prompt
[16:38] <daftykins> OnkelTem: hmm ok, unfortunately i am leaving soon so i don't have time to help any further i'm afraid - maybe google that message or see if anyone else can help
[16:38] <SpeedFire_laptop> Hi, someone can help me for a bug ? I have a Lenovo W520 and the click doesn't really work good. Any idea ?
[16:38] <OnkelTem> daftykins: ok, thanks
[16:38] <OnkelTem> daftykins: I googled actually.
[16:38] <ActionParsnip> nick688: you can, use the live USB stick desktop. I even gave the url
[16:39] <OnkelTem> Anyone experienced with running Ubuntu on MacBook?
[16:39] <nick688> ActionParsnip this phone screen is very small
[16:39] <ActionParsnip> nick688: use a pen and paper....
[16:40] <ActionParsnip> nick688: the commands are basically the same, ust a different folder
[16:41] <A1Recon> I type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install arduino arduino-core" into the terminal and I get this....
[16:41] <A1Recon> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[16:41] <A1Recon> E: Unable to lock directory /var/lib/apt/lists/
[16:41] <A1Recon> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable)
[16:41] <A1Recon> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[16:42] <A1Recon> Why is this happening
[16:42] <A1Recon> ?
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> A1Recon: is software centre open?
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> A1Recon: or synaptic etc...
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> A1Recon: or are updates running in another terminal?
[16:43] <A1Recon> ActionParsnip: It was updating....
[16:43] <ActionParsnip> A1Recon: then thats why the packages are locked....
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> A1Recon: only one process can access the packages at one time
[16:44] <A1Recon> OK
[16:44] <A1Recon> Thanks!!
[16:44] <ActionParsnip> A1Recon: same winth the Windows installer too
[16:45] <zzxx> ActionParsnip: Sorry, you seem to have misunderstood my question. I am not trying to remedy a problem with the gpu, or tempurature issues. In fact, there is no true "problem" in the sense that nothing is broken, or running in an errenious fashion. The reason I come here for help is that when I adjust the brightness of my lcd screen with the brightness buttons on my keyboard, the intensity of the light on my screen jumps from very dim,
[16:45] <zzxx> however, when I adjust the brightness via the gui, I can select with much finer control the brighness (there are more stops on the slider so to speak.), so i am wondering if instead of jumping say 10 stops each time I press a brightness button, have it only jump 2 or 3.
[16:46] <OnkelTem> How to press Ctrl-Alt-F1 on MacBook?
[16:47] <Plouj> zykotick9: Sure. I think my question still applies to non-EOL releases though.
[16:48] <zykotick9> Plouj: if you are using Lucid desktop, upgrade to a supported release - then feel free to ask again (if problem persists).
[16:49] <zzxx> hmmm, it seems at though ActionParsnip has left. If anyone else cares to take a stab at my question above, it would be welomed and appreciated ^^
[16:49] <zzxx> welcomed*
[16:49] <mydog2> hi.. anyone here using ssh?
[16:50] <gordonjcp> !anyone | mydog2
[16:50] <zzxx> mydog2: I am.
[16:50] <mydog2> in particular, ssh with multiple targeted servers, so you have multiple priv/pub key pairs?
[16:50] <zzxx> nope. nm
[16:51] <mshaw> just ask the question
[16:51] <mydog2> gordonjcp,  - had to be the dude who did this eh.. coldn't wait for the rest of the question..
[16:51] <mydog2> hey mshaw
[16:51] <zzxx> mshaw: ^^agreed
[16:51] <mydog2> basically.. trying to figure out the process for setting up multiple keys..
[16:51] <gordonjcp> multiple keys in what sense?
[16:52]  * mshaw heads over to #recipes and asks 'hey, do you guys eat?'
[16:52] <zykotick9> mshaw: it's "hey does anyone eat" ;)
[16:52] <nick688> hi again
[16:52] <mydog2> i thought/tried to create the multiple priv keys and stored them in the /user/.ssh/id_rsa_user1 id_rsa_user2 and of course added the pub keys to the targeted authkeyfile
[16:53] <mrrcp> hell
[16:53] <mrrcp> hello
[16:53] <mrrcp> i am trying to prevent root user in ssh...   PermitRootLogin no   is the correct format right?
[16:53] <mydog2> this process works if i have a single user, and simply use the id_rsa file
[16:53] <gordonjcp> mydog2: that doesn't sound like a real path
[16:53] <gordonjcp> mydog2: what exactly are you trying to do?
[16:54] <mydog2> i then tried to access the connection using ssh -i ~/.ssh/id_rsa_foo ... and this didn't work...  i get an identify file not active
[16:54] <mydog2> error
[16:54] <gordonjcp> mydog2: none of that sounds like sane behaviour
[16:54] <gordonjcp> mydog2: what exactly are you trying to do?
[16:54] <mydog2> mrrcp,  - that's correct
[16:54] <nick688> ubuntu@ubuntu:~$ sudo lilo -M /dev/sda mbr Backup copy of /dev/sda in /boot/boot.0800 The Master Boot Record of  /dev/sda  has been updated.
[16:55] <nick688> is this correct  _
[16:55] <nick688> ?
[16:55] <SpeedFire_laptop> Nobody have an idea how to fix a touchpad cliking bug ?
[16:55] <gordonjcp> nick688: probably
[16:55] <mydog2> gordonjcp,  - told you.. trying to have multiple/separate priv/pub key created so a user can login without a passwd to two different systems
[16:56] <gordonjcp> mydog2: so, ssh from one local system to two remote systems?
[16:56] <gordonjcp> mydog2: copy the same pubkey to both remote systems...
[16:56] <mydog2> gordonjcp,  - i can use a single priv key.. i want multiple keys.. one for each system
[16:56] <mydog2> gordonjcp,  - your solution works if i use the same priv key.. i do not want that..
[16:57] <gordonjcp> that's basically not a sane way to do it
[16:57] <gordonjcp> one system, one private key
[16:58] <SpeedFire_laptop> Nobody have an idea how to fix a touchpad cliking bug ?
[16:58] <mrrcp> how do i block root users from logging in on 12.04
[16:58] <mrrcp> on ssh
[16:58] <mnemonicj> how can i install a shell without root access?
[16:58] <mnemonicj> i'd rather never have to invoke sudo
[16:58] <jrib> mrrcp: why do you say "users" with an 's'?  There is only one root user
[16:59] <nick688> FlexNet detected
[16:59] <jrib> mnemonicj: you can't use apt without root access (usually gained using sudo)
[16:59] <mnemonicj> thanks jrib
[17:01] <mrrcp> well root user
[17:01] <nick688> see u
[17:01] <nick688> rebooting
[17:01] <SpeedFire_laptop> Nobody have an idea how to fix a touchpad cliking bug ?
[17:01] <mydog2> gordonjcp,  - then you don't get what i want... there are plenty of reasons to use multiple keys.. but that's what i'm shooting for..
[17:01] <jrib> mrrcp: then read about PermitRootLogin in « man sshd_config »
[17:02] <mrrcp> ive read it
[17:02] <mrrcp> its not working
[17:02] <jrib> mrrcp: what exactly did you try?
[17:03] <mrrcp> i placed  PermitRootLogin no  into /etc/sshd.
[17:03] <mrrcp> ,...
[17:03] <mrrcp> uh i figured it out lol
[17:03] <mrrcp> wrong file
[17:03] <jrib> mrrcp: /etc/sshd is a directory
[17:04] <jrib> mrrcp: ok
[17:05] <Plouj> zykotick9: I'm not really talking about any problems. I just asked how to pass a -j flag to make when building a kernel.
[17:05] <Plouj> I think we might be talking about different things.
[17:08] <zabi2> im having a green tint on pictures with default picture viewer on 13.04, shotwell shows pictures properly how can i fix this?
[17:08] <DarthEaron> so i used the comman pkill --kill -u zp to log off... mow i cantlog in. when i do im greeted with the
[17:12] <DarthEaron> so i logged out using the command pkill --kill -u zp...i cant log in now. i type my password at the gui and my screen goes black as if to log in but i return to the login again
[17:12] <DarthEaron> anyone know how to fix this?
[17:14] <loa> DarthEaron, i will try give restart for login manager
[17:14] <zykotick9> Plouj: why do you need 10 concurrent threads exactly?  does it working without the -j?  AND, if you use Lucid (desktop) then you can't ask for support in #ubuntu...
[17:15] <DarthEaron> loa: well its liited to one user and i have restarted my computer several times and the same thing is going on
[17:15] <benedict_> hi, what's the default instant messenger that comes with lxde?
[17:19] <loa> DarthEaron, then something saved in your home folder
[17:19] <loa> try to remove for example or set 0777 to it .Xauthority
[17:20] <loa> DarthEaron, anyway try inspect your logs)
[17:23] <DarthEaron> loa; sure, i can log in from tty. what would you need to see?
[17:23] <zykotick9> DarthEaron: fyi, a common cause of the issue you describe is caused by using "sudo" with GUI apps, ALWAYS use gksudo for GUI apps (if this applies to you).
[17:23] <loa> what login manager you have?
[17:24] <DarthEaron> loa: gnome-shell
[17:24] <loa> gdm maybe?
[17:24] <ab3e> Hi, I have a HUGE problem I forget a . while using chown as root. Im screwed. But I have a 18days old bakup. How can I make a script that changes the owners and groups to the right ones with the help of the backup ?
[17:26] <DarthEaron> loa: how do i tell which one im using? its the default one
[17:26] <loa> lightdm then i think
[17:27] <loa> investigate this folder /var/log/lightdm/
[17:27] <StarFlower> Does ubuntu have a c++11 compiler?
[17:27] <loa> for exaple x-0-greeter.log
[17:28] <jrib> ab3e: man chmod, read about --reference
[17:29] <sorakun_> StarFlower: you can always download one that suite your needs
[17:29] <sorakun_> i think clang is what you need
[17:30] <loa> DarthEaron, http://askubuntu.com/questions/300682/what-represent-xauthority-file
[17:30] <faugusztin> StarFlower: http://gcc.gnu.org/projects/cxx0x.html
[17:30] <faugusztin> StarFlower: and http://gcc.gnu.org/gcc-4.8/cxx0x_status.html
[17:30] <tinlee> is any1 here?
[17:30] <pranav> if i ssh to an ldap server machine without local credentials, but the credentials that exist in ldap database entries. pam will log me in to the ldap server machine. i am a bit confuse. so, how to login to other machines ?
[17:31] <DarthEaron> loa: which usernae would go ware... root:zp
[17:31] <loa> your username and group
[17:31] <nashant> Anyone any idea on why whenever I reboot I get 'kernel panic: not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)', but whenever I boot from cold it starts just fine?
[17:32] <tinlee> im new bird
[17:32] <tinlee> i need help about php
[17:32] <tinlee> who can help me ?
[17:32] <rypervenche> tinlee: What do you need help with?
[17:32] <DarthEaron> loa: okay i need to logout to try this
[17:33] <DarthEaron> it worked great. THANKS!!!!
[17:33] <serban> so i did something wrong, tried to install libnotify4, the hit apt-get install -f which removed a lot of packages. How do i cancel the libnotify install so i can install xfce4 back?
[17:34] <bwayne_> hi guys. looks like I've managed to lock up Unity. is there a restartX or similar command?
 seems to not restart X.
[17:35] <puff> bwayne_: kill gdm?  Or whatever unity replaced gdm with...
[17:36] <bwayne_> thx puff. i'll try that.
[17:36] <zykotick9> bwayne_: ctrl-alt-backspace isn't enabled by default.  can you login to ctrl+alt+f1?  if so try "sudo service lightdm restart" or gdm/kdm if you use those instead.
[17:37] <bwayne_> zykotick9: yeah. I'm on tty2 right now. i'll give it a whirl. thx.
[17:37] <bejker> bwayne_: press ctrl+alt+F1 you go to tt1 and then log in to root and stop gdm
[17:38] <bejker> then start gdm and press ctrl+alt+F7 to go back to X
[17:38] <zykotick9> bejker: "log in to root" is never the right answer for ubuntu...
[17:38] <zykotick9> bejker: further, ubuntu uses lightdm not gdm by default
[17:38] <bejker> zykotick9:  how u want stop service as user?
[17:38] <zykotick9> bejker: using sudo...
[17:38] <bejker> sudo = root whats diferent?
[17:38] <Fuchs> bwayne_: alt + sysrq (prtsc) + k would restart it as ctrl alt backspace did, that's just a minor sidenote, though
[17:39] <bwayne_> okay. got it all back. thx guys. rhythmbox plugin bork bork bork.
[17:39] <k1l> !sudo | bejker
[17:39] <puff> bwayne_: Personally I find ctrl-alt-backspace a pain, I more often restart by accident than anything, but if you want it, install the dontzap package.
[17:39] <bejker> k1l:  i know for what is sudo
[17:39] <zykotick9> Fuchs: i've never had much luck with alt+sysrq+k X rarely comes back.
[17:39] <puff> Hm, dontzap appears to have gone away.
[17:39] <puff> bwayne_: Hm, dontzap appears to have gone away.
[17:39] <bwayne_> puff: doing it manually doesn't bother me.
[17:40] <k1l> bejker: there is no activated root account on a ubuntu machine. so the ubuntu way is to use sudo
[17:40] <puff> bwayne_: Cool.
[17:40] <bejker> k1l:  but for me is no diferent to use sudo command or sudo -i and then command
[17:40] <splic> Hello, I have a persistant liveCD that has locked up, is there any way to power it off gracefully (without corrupting it's state)? The screen still does not turn on and I've checked my router and it has a DHCP lease, but does not respond to ping/ssh. Thank you.
[17:40] <puff> bwayne_: Also, this is neat: http://www.arsgeek.com/?p=787
[17:40] <testnickname2345> I have Ubuntu Server installed. I have a video game server running in a telnet window that gives me updates me to errors and what not. If I bring up a new telnet window can I open that game server from that window to watch the server messages?
[17:40] <k1l> bejker: please stick to the ubuntu way in here. especially  when its advised to beginners
[17:40] <Fuchs> testnickname2345: you probably want tmux or screen
[17:41] <zykotick9> !reisub | splic you can try this
[17:41] <testnickname2345> Fuchs thanks ill look into tmux
[17:41] <splic> zykotick9: Thank you
[17:41] <puff> Hm, I'm having problems getting netflix-desktop to run on raring.  It just silently fails, does nothing.  I can't find any sort of --verbose or -debug option to give me more info.
[17:42] <Fuchs> testnickname2345: basically you can open a tmux session, start whatever (e.g. the gameserver) in it, then you can attach/detach to and from that session from ssh (I assume not telnet) sessions
[17:42] <puff> testnickname2345: screen is awesome and tmux is screen's chosen successor.
[17:42] <moorvogi> i can't get ubuntu to join a .local domain. i've changed avahi's config so its .alocal instead of local and still no go. i can ping the dc but if i put in the FQDN of the dc... it wont ping. any thoughts?
[17:43] <testnickname2345> puff so you think screens is better?
[17:43] <bwayne> thx for the help guys. you really came through.
[17:44] <testnickname2345> puff if i can't get this stuff to work is there a normal way to send commands to a running service that doesn't have focus in my current screen?
[17:45] <nashant> Anyone any idea on why whenever I reboot I get 'kernel panic: not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)', but whenever I boot from cold it starts just fine? I've tried reinstalling grub, but to no avail. And when I try holding shift to enter the grub menu after rebooting, no menu, still the kernel panic
[17:45] <puff> testnickname2345: No, I think tmux is better.  So does the guy who maintains screen.
[17:46] <puff> testnickname2345: tmux is basically a from-the-ground-up rewrite of screen, with cleaner internals and hence easier to maintan and extend.
[17:46] <Achi||es> hi
[17:46] <Achi||es> i repaired boot on ubuntu at last
[17:46] <testnickname2345> puff got it thanks :)
[17:46] <Achi||es> but i cant connect to other network via xchat
[17:47] <puff> testnickname2345: I'm unclear what you want to do, re: sending commands etc.
[17:47] <Achi||es> hi
[17:48] <Achi||es> it says misspelled
[17:48] <Achi||es> unknown network :S
[17:48] <Achi||es> doesnt /server -m irc.network.com  work here ?
[17:48] <Achi||es> on xCHat ?
[17:48] <testnickname2345> puff example in one screen instance I open a java -jar minecraft.jar is there a way in another screen to send a server command to that running proccess
[17:48] <puff> testnickname2345: Screen and tmux are what you call virtual terminal software.  Terminal meaning tty.  Virtual meaning that screen or tmux run on top of the OS and pretend to be a terminal.
[17:49] <whoever> hi all need some help with libusb. I am installing razercfg, and i keep gettting  Could not find library "libusb-1.0" with header libusb.h
[17:49] <whoever> when i run cmake
[17:49] <whoever> and i installed libusb from the repos , can someon asssist
[17:49] <puff> testnickname2345: The original main use for screen was equivalent to what you now do by opening multiple GUI terminal windows and running telnet in each one.
[17:49] <Achi||es> hello ?
[17:49] <whoever> Achi||es: hello
[17:50] <Achi||es> i cant connect to another network from xchat
[17:50] <Achi||es> how can i ?
[17:50] <Achi||es> the command /server -m irc.icq.com doesnt work
[17:50] <puff> testnickname2345: Back In The Day you couldn't open multiple terminals, and in particular you were using a single app, controllnig dialup connection, to get to the unix server.  You weren't connecting to the unix server via TCP/IP but rather via a non-multiplexed modem connection.
[17:50] <serban> phew, just panic'd a bit. Where does ubuntu store the logs of packages that were installed/removed/etc?
[17:51] <puff> testnickname2345: So you'd run screen and then screen would provide multiple windows, each running their own shell prompt.  You switch between windows by hitting a control key.
[17:51] <zykotick9> serban: check /var/log/apt/history.log
[17:52] <puff> testnickname2345: But the other really nifty thing screen could do is detach/reattach, sou you could detach, drop the connection, and later on reconnect and reattach the screen session and everything is still running.
[17:52] <testnickname2345> puff wow thank god for multiple proccesses
[17:52] <serban> ty
[17:53] <puff> testnickname2345: Yeah, well screen is basically funneling and multiplexing multiple processes through a single dialup connection.  These days we connect to everything via tcp/ip, so we don't need it as much, but I still find it invaluable for detach/reattach.
[17:53] <testnickname2345> puff oh wait does that mean if i close a telnet season from my windows it will close the server I booted using the telnet season
[17:53] <puff> testnickname2345: What sorts of commands do you want to send to the running process?
[17:53] <Achi||es> am i invisible ?
[17:54] <testnickname2345> puff the word "stop"
[17:54] <puff> testnickname2345: Yes, unless you first run screen, which starts a screen session, and then in the screen's first window, you run the server.
[17:54] <testnickname2345> puff or the work "op player"
[17:54] <puff> testnickname2345: Did you write the java code yourself?
[17:54] <zykotick9> testnickname2345: telnet should be avoided at all costs (passwords are sent in clear text), you REALLY should look into ssh (putty is a win client).
[17:54] <puff> testnickname2345: Yeah, what zykotick9 said.
[17:55] <testnickname2345> puff no its a pretty well knowen game. although i have made a few plugins for it
[17:55] <puff> testnickname2345: Generally speaking, most programs, you communicate with them via sockets.
[17:55] <puff> testnickname2345: So do you want to write a program to send these commands, or what?
[17:56] <testnickname2345> puff ya but not when your on the machine your communicating with
[17:56] <puff> testnickname2345: If you're on the machine you're communicating with, why are you telnetting?
[17:56] <testnickname2345> puff oh umm telnet or no tell net
[17:57] <puff> testnickname2345: Sorry, were you referring to my comment about sockets?  if so, then no, most programs use sockets even within the same machine.
[17:57] <testnickname2345> telnet just allows me to use the computer from up stairs
[17:57] <puff> testnickname2345: Well, ports.
[17:57] <puff> testnickname2345: it's still a really bad idea to use telnet.
[17:57] <puff> testnickname2345:  Especially if you're using wireless.
[17:57] <whoever> and i can locate libusb.h  and it returns : locate libusb.h
[17:57] <whoever> /usr/include/libusb-1.0/libusb.h
[17:57] <puff> testnickname2345: Defense in depth.
[17:57] <testnickname2345> puff wow that intresting never new sockets where used that way. I only used them for coding stuff for internet / network
[17:58] <puff> testnickname2345: What languages/platforms?
[17:58] <testnickname2345> puff just java stuff
[17:58] <locsmif_> Hi all. I was looking at https://launchpad.net/whosthere , which was supposed to be Ubuntu's portal to Whatsapp, but it says "discontinued". Okay... a bit terse.. So is there an alternative?
[17:59] <testnickname2345> puff bit of php VBScript and a insainly small amount of C++
[17:59] <puff> testnickname2345:  okay, so if you use tomcat, the default config (which you should change by the way) is for tomcat to listen on port 8005 for requests to tomcat to shutdown.
[18:00] <testnickname2345> puff tomcat being what a alternative to telnet for controlling the machine downstairs?
[18:00] <gordonjcp> testnickname2345: don't use telnet, use ssh
[18:00] <puff> testnickname2345: And the default arrangement to use tomcat (which is not a good idea these days, by the way :-) is to run an apache server and have the apache server serve all the static data, and forward servlet engine traffic to tomcat via apache mod_proxy, over port 8009.
[18:01] <puff> testnickname2345: No, tomcat being the most common java web application server, I was trying to give you examples you'd be familiar with.
[18:01] <puff> testnickname2345: What gordonjcp said.
[18:01] <gordonjcp> testnickname2345: telnet has significant horrible problems
[18:01] <gordonjcp> although to be fair, you don't have to worry about the NSA backdooring your crypto
[18:02] <gordonjcp> so, there's *that*
[18:02] <puff> testnickname2345: Never use telnet to connection from one machine to another machine, even if you're inside a secure network - because you're wrong if you think you are.
[18:02] <testnickname2345> gordonjcp puff good to know
[18:02] <puff> testnickname2345: Using telnet is like communicating with your bank via postcards.
[18:02] <gordonjcp> telnet is *great* for some things
[18:02] <puff> testnickname2345: Or more like communicating with your bank via smoke signals.  ANYBODY who bothers to look can see what you're saying.
[18:02] <gordonjcp> just bear in mind that there is effectively no authentication and no encryption
[18:03] <gordonjcp> telnet is *fine* if you don't care about that
[18:04] <testnickname2345> gordonjcp actually I was planning on using it over the internet so you might have saved me allot of greif
[18:04] <gordonjcp> testnickname2345: yeah, use ssh if it's going to be public-facing
[18:04] <testnickname2345> gordonjcp puff I know almost nothing about internet security lol
[18:04] <puff> testnickname2345: Okay, so... if you need to run this server, then a) run it under screen or tmux so you can detach and reattach.  b) if you need to write something to automatically interact with this server, check out the expect tool.
[18:05] <testnickname2345> puff will do I'll go do some reading on tmux
[18:05] <testnickname2345> puff thanks again
[18:07] <puff> testnickname2345: There are also tools like puppet, chef, etc, but from what little I know of them, they are not intended to handle interactive stuff.
[18:07] <yenal> hi is it possible to resolve the pixel color of a specific region with autokey (couldnt find any command in http://autokey.sourceforge.net/apidoc/)
[18:07] <Sc0rp10n> hi everyone
[18:08] <Sc0rp10n> I am using lubuntu for os and my last update screwed my chromium browser
[18:08] <Sc0rp10n> can someone help me plz
[18:08] <justin1987> hi all
[18:09] <Sc0rp10n> I tried getting the updates and it failed
[18:09] <Sc0rp10n> so I tried sudo apt-get install -f
[18:09] <Sc0rp10n> and it kinda screwed my chromium browser
[18:09] <Sc0rp10n> I can't see any address bar in chromium now
[18:10] <Sc0rp10n> no wrench icon, no extensions
[18:10] <Sc0rp10n> plz help
[18:10] <drfaustus> i can't type in arabic anymore
[18:11] <Ubuntivity> drfaustus: Do you have a problem with Arabic?
[18:12] <drfaustus> Ububegin: yea,i can't type
[18:12] <MonkeyDust> !arabic
[18:12] <yenal> is it possible to resolve the pixel color of a specific region with autokey (couldnt find any command in http://autokey.sourceforge.net/apidoc/)
[18:12] <Ubuntivity> MonkeyDust: Maybe he is having a problem with keyboard layouts
[18:13] <MonkeyDust> Ubuntivity  drfaustus my mistake, was supposed to be /msg ubottu
[18:13] <Ubuntivity> drfaustus: you may PM me if you like, I'm an Arabic user :)
[18:13] <drfaustus> Ubuntivity: yea
[18:13] <Ubuntivity> drfaustus: Are you using Ubuntu in Arabic interface or English interface?
[18:13] <drfaustus> MonkeyDust: never mind
[18:13] <locsmif_> Is there a whatsapp for Ubuntu which is not discontinued?
[18:14] <nashant> Anyone any idea on why whenever I reboot I get 'kernel panic: not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0)', but whenever I boot from cold it starts just fine? I've tried reinstalling grub, but to no avail. And when I try holding shift to enter the grub menu after rebooting, no menu, still the kernel panic
[18:15] <Guest72322> I'm trying to find the easiest way to get addition hard drives to be mounted at bootup....I use to use mount manager but it doesn't seem to be available in 13.10....any other easy ways besides modifying fstab?
[18:15] <justin1987> apt-get update and apt-get upgrade --show-upgraded
[18:16] <MonkeyDust> Guest72322  13.10 support in #ubuntu+1
[18:16] <sangohan> Hello, somebody know how to set the suspend mode to more than one hour (the selector stop to one hour in the graphical interface)
[18:16] <Rory> !13.10 | Guest72322
[18:18] <sangohan> *standby mode
[18:19] <sangohan> i'm running on 13.04
[18:19] <MonkeyDust> sangohan  you want the computer to suspend after more than one hour? if yes, use the command 'sleep' -- in a terminal, type    man sleep    to see how it's used
[18:20] <Jeeves_Moss> how do I setup multiple IP addresses for a NIC?  I have servers that I need multi IPs, and multi DNS servers
[18:22] <Psil0Cybin> N
[18:22] <Psil0Cybin> hey guys quick question if i use nmap to scan my gateway router/modem is it normal that it has a whole bunch of open prots
[18:22] <Psil0Cybin> like port 5000 open and 9000 or something
[18:22] <sangohan> MonkeyDust, i want the PC to stand by in automatic like it done when configuring 'Energy' in System Parameter, but the selector stop at one hour not more
[18:24] <Psil0Cybin> its wierd
[18:24] <Psil0Cybin> when i nmap
[18:24] <Psil0Cybin> some of the ports open say unknown
[18:24] <Psil0Cybin> how bizzare.
[18:26] <ElFizbanio> what was the ubuntu 12.04 network manager package?
[18:26] <luky> hallo, can someone help me out please, horde webmail is not updating db scheme. URL /timeobjects/admin/config/index.php was not found
[18:26] <luky> can someone help? if i press the update db scheme button this error appears but i dont know where to get this file
[18:27] <luky> the whole /config folder dont exits
[18:27] <Ubuntivity> What is the default Ubuntu input method? xim or ibus?
[18:28] <locsmif_> Psil0Cybin: you're scanning from the inside
[18:28] <Psil0Cybin> yea realized
[18:28] <Psil0Cybin> ill use my VPN to scan
[18:28] <Psil0Cybin> ;)
[18:28] <Psil0Cybin> thanks
[18:28] <locsmif_> Have you run nmap with service detection?
[18:28] <Sc0rp10n> the address bar in chromium in missing, any way to fix it? I tried reinstalling it as well
[18:28] <FloodBot1> Psil0Cybin: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:28] <Psil0Cybin> no i have not, what is the command for that i just did nmap -v 192.168.2.1
[18:29] <Ubuntivity> Sorry about repeating my question, but What is the default Ubuntu input method? xim or ibus?
[18:29] <locsmif_> Psil0Cybin: consider running nmap with service detection, then google the service names discovered.
[18:29] <Psil0Cybin> alright thanks
[18:29] <locsmif_> Psil0Cybin: I'll send you the command in a private notice.
[18:29] <Psil0Cybin> thank you locsmif_
[18:29] <Psil0Cybin> you are the man!
[18:30] <locsmif_> heh, you're welcome, no worries.
[18:30] <Rory> Sc0rp10n: Can you try logging in as a different user, or as the guest user, and seeing if the problem also occurs on that account?
[18:30] <drfaustus> i can't type in arabic
[18:30] <abc_> Is there a program (preferable GUI) for copying large amounts of data between two NTFS mounted partitions? I'd like an integrity check, too. I heard about rsync, is that an option?
[18:31] <Pici> !details | drfaustus
[18:31] <Sc0rp10n> Rory: alright I'll try that
[18:31] <whoever> hi all , I am tring to install razercfg http://bues.ch/cms/hacking/razercfg.html  but when i run cmake . , I am getting an error that cmake cannot find libusb ]-1.0 libusb. h. however i can find it with locate libusb.h but still get the same error from cmake, can someone assist?
[18:31] <Rory> drfaustus: Neither can I. Can you speak Arabic? (jk)
[18:32] <Ubuntivity> Rory: He is probably having conflict between xim and ibus
[18:32] <Rory> whoever: Could you put the full error onto http://paste.ubuntu.com
[18:32] <Sc0rp10n> Rory: yea the problem is still there
[18:32] <Rory> Ubuntivity: I just need to work out where the problem lies; on his account or with some part of his system
[18:32] <Sc0rp10n> Rory: its weird cause it's showing the address bar in incognito window but missing in normal mode
[18:32] <Rory> OK Sc0rp10n can you just let me know what Ubuntu version you're using? You can use the command "cat /etc/issue" if you don't know
[18:32] <Ubuntivity> Rory: drfaustus uses xfce on his Ubuntu 13.04
[18:33] <Ubuntivity> Rory: and he (drfaustus) gets an error that suggest a conflict between ibus and xim, preventing him to switch layout to Arabic.
[18:33] <whoever> Rory: http://pastebin.com/QNLGFRXM
[18:33] <Sc0rp10n> Rory: I'm using Lubuntu 13.04
[18:33] <Rory> Thanks Ubuntivity I thought you were talking about Sc0rp10n
[18:33] <NewbieNo1> hello, when I installed fglrx-updates and before restarting I could use fn+f7 and fn+f8 on my toshiba laptop to change the brightness, but after I restarted they no longer worked. Hoever brightness can still be changed from the panel
[18:34] <Rory> whoever: What Ubuntu version are you using?
[18:34] <whoever> Rory: 12.04 64bit
[18:35] <Ubuntivity> Rory: do you think that xim and ibus might conflict with each other?
[18:35] <Rory> NewbieNo1: Please can you run the command: gksudo gedit /etc/default/grub
[18:35] <ESPGuillermo> hi
[18:35] <ESPGuillermo> is this the place for general ubuntu chat?
[18:35] <Rory> NewbieNo1: That will open a file in a text editor. Find the line that says GRUB_CMLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[18:35] <Rory> !ot | ESPGuillermo
[18:36] <Rory> NewbieNo1: Change it to say GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash acpi_backlight=vendor"
[18:36] <Rory> NewbieNo1: Then run the command "sudo update-grub" and reboot
[18:36] <Rory> whoever: sudo apt-get install libusb-dev
[18:37] <Sc0rp10n> Rory: gonna restart ubuntu
[18:37] <NewbieNo1> rory don't you mean GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quit splash"
[18:37] <whoever> Rory: libuub-1.0-0-dev is already installed
[18:38] <Rory> NewbieNo1: No, I mean "quiet" as in "be quiet please, Linux"
[18:38] <Rory> NewbieNo1: Please put it exactly as I have; copy and paste it
[18:38] <NewbieNo1> my grub file contains "quit splash" not "quit splash" really
[18:39] <NewbieNo1> should I replace it by "quiet" before trying what you say?
[18:39] <Ubuntivity> NewbieNo1: it should be 'quiet splash' with an E
[18:39] <Rory> NewbieNo1: It will say "quiet splash" at the moment. You need to change it to say "quiet splash acpi_backlight=vendor"
[18:40] <NewbieNo1> ok
[18:40] <Sc0rp10n> Rory, I restarted Lubuntu but the issue is still there but I got a crash report
[18:40] <Ubuntivity> Rory: does XFCE use the same input method as Unity? or it needs to have a different one?
[18:41] <NewbieNo1>  $ sudo update-grub
[18:41] <NewbieNo1> /usr/sbin/grub-mkconfig: 35: /etc/default/grub: Syntax error: EOF in backquote substitution
[18:41] <Sc0rp10n> is there a way to copy the contents of the crash report?
[18:41] <Rory> Sc0rp10n: Have you considered asking in #lubuntu to see if it's a specific issue with that? Also you may need to reinstall chromium more completely by using the command: sudo apt-get remove --purge chromium
[18:41] <Rory> Sc0rp10n: It depends where you are seeing the crash report
[18:41] <loadid_czech> NewbieNo1: looks like you have a syntax error in your /etc/default/grub file
[18:41] <NewbieNo1> loadid_czech: can I do something about it?
[18:42] <Rory> NewbieNo1: Please can you run the first command again and paste your entire /etc/default/grub onto http://paste.ubuntu.com so I can see it
[18:42] <loadid_czech> paste your /etc/default/grub file for me to have a look at
[18:42] <loadid_czech> paste your /etc/default/grub file for us* to have a look at
[18:42] <Rory> NewbieNo1: Then I will modify it for you, and give you a modified one to paste back
[18:42] <Sc0rp10n> alright thanks Rory
[18:42] <NewbieNo1> rory ok
[18:43] <NewbieNo1> ruby I corrected the mistake
[18:43] <NewbieNo1> there were two quote marks
[18:43] <NewbieNo1> I removed one and now I'm updating grub, thank you
[18:43] <whoever> Rory: any ideas
[18:43] <Ruby> I guess this works too
[18:44] <Rory> whoever: OK I'm looking for you
[18:44] <Rory> whoever: Can you please run sudo updatedb && locate libusb.h
[18:45] <Rory> whoever: Also delete the file in the source code directory called CMakeCache.txt
[18:45] <zgr> Hello guys, I have desktop PC with onboard HD4200 and pci express HD7850 GPUs, running open source radeon driver, is it possible to disable pci_express GPU on boot?
[18:45] <luky> hallo i have a big problem with mail server. horde mail server cant update imp configuration it always says that 404 not found URL /imp/login.php
[18:45] <whoever> Rory: it returned /usr/include/libusb-1.0/libusb.h
[18:45] <Rory> zgr: I believe that's something you have to set in your system's BIOS menu
[18:45] <Rory> whoever: Delete the file in the source code directory called CMakeCache.txt
[18:46] <loadid_czech> luky: sounds like the configuration file is looking for /imp/login.php but it doesn't exist
[18:46] <zgr> Rory: I don't have such option, i mean where is gpu priority, but it simply doesn't works
[18:46] <Sc0rp10n> is there any advantage of using Lubuntu over Ubuntu? I just started using it cause I read online that it's a lighter version of ubuntu
[18:46] <zgr> there*
[18:46] <Sc0rp10n> but I have been having issues with it
[18:46] <polter> Sc0rp10n: what issues?
[18:46] <loadid_czech> Sc0rp10n: lubuntu works better with slower/older hardware
[18:46] <whoever> Rory: ok, cmakecache deleted
[18:46] <Rory> Sc0rp10n: They use different window managers. Lubuntu uses LXDE and Ubuntu uses Unity. LXDE is more lightweight and traditional than Unity
[18:46] <luky> loadid_czech: thats right but where can i get the config file?
[18:47] <Sc0rp10n> I'm using a mac book pro
[18:47] <loadid_czech> Sc0rp10n: i would suggest using ubuntu then, your hardware is powerful enough for it
[18:47] <Sc0rp10n> like it updates itself on every restart, more frequent crashed
[18:47] <Sc0rp10n> crashes*
[18:47] <Sc0rp10n> I'm using running it virtually though
[18:48] <NewbieNo1> ok it didn't work, after rebooting my screen is 100% bright (ouch) and I can't change the brightness from the panel, here's my grub file: http://pastebin.com/DTZdXY6m
[18:48] <Sc0rp10n> using Parallels to run it
[18:48] <NewbieNo1> when I hover over the panel brightness changes it says "no device found"
[18:49] <polter> Sc0rp10n: try installing the ubuntu-desktop package to get the full Ubuntu distro, and see if that helps. You can always save a snapshot in you virtualization software before just in case it doesn't work out
[18:49] <Sc0rp10n> wait! polter, is it possible to port over all my work and settings to ubuntu?
[18:49] <loadid_czech> maybe is in the account settings luky?
[18:49] <locsmif_> Is there a whatsapp for Ubuntu which is not discontinued?
[18:50] <zykotick9> NewbieNo1: sidenote/workaround you might want to check out redshift?
[18:50] <polter> Sc0rp10n: Lubuntu is just a set of packages really. If you install "ubuntu-desktop" in Lubuntu, it will install everything that is needed to make your Lubuntu install a Ubuntu install
[18:50] <polter> you don't have to uninstall or remove anything
[18:50] <Sc0rp10n> aw sweet!!
[18:51] <Sc0rp10n> I'm gonna do that
[18:51] <Sc0rp10n> thanks polter , Rory , loadid_czech !!
[18:51] <luky> loadid_czech: in configuration -> users all that i want to klick wont work
[18:51] <luky> always 404 not found
[18:52] <Sc0rp10n> ok I just got another error
[18:52] <Jordan_U> locsmif_: It looks like there is a whatsapp pidgin plugin that's still being maintained, I have no idea of its quality though.
[18:52] <Sc0rp10n> it says the issue is with chromium-browser-l10n package
[18:52] <Sc0rp10n> and I can't report it cause it's 3rd party
[18:52] <Jordan_U> locsmif_: http://askubuntu.com/questions/333850/how-to-install-whatsapp-in-ubuntu
[18:52] <Sc0rp10n> could this be the reason that my chomium is screwed up?
[18:53] <Rory> Sc0rp10n: Are you using a PPA?
[18:53] <Sc0rp10n> dunno Rory
[18:53] <Sc0rp10n> how do I find that?
[18:53] <NewbieNo1> I changed it to what it was like before and restarted but I'm still unable to change brightness "no device found"
[18:54] <Rory> Sc0rp10n: Can you please post the results of running the command: "sudo apt-get remove --purge chromium-browser chromium-browser-l10n && sudo apt-get install chromium-browser"
[18:54] <NewbieNo1> rory this is what you told me to do isn' it ?
[18:54] <NewbieNo1> http://pastebin.com/DTZdXY6m
[18:54] <Rory> NewbieNo1: Did you remember to run sudo update-grub after changing it?
[18:54] <Sc0rp10n> sure, thanks Rory
[18:54] <zykotick9> Rory: fyi, you can use ".. apt-get purge foo" less typing.
[18:54] <Rory> NewbieNo1: Yes that's right but I wasn't sure it would work; it was just something I needed to try
[18:54] <polter> Sc0rp10n: paste in http://paste.ubuntu.com/ not in chat, if theres more than a couple of lines
[18:55] <Rory> NewbieNo1: If I were sitting in front of your computer diagnosing it, I'd have tried that first, you see
[18:55] <locsmif_> Jordan_U: thanks
[18:55] <Sc0rp10n> sure polter
[18:55] <NewbieNo1> rory yes I updated grub
[18:56] <nick____> hi
[18:56] <NewbieNo1> rory ok what's the next step?
[18:56] <nick____> how to install gnome look into ubuntu 12.04 ?
[18:56] <zykotick9> Rory: but, uninstall/reinstall is a windows troubleshooting method, rarely works in *nix-land (issue more likely in ~ which purge still doesn't touch)
[18:56] <Rory> NewbieNo1: The next step is I trawl pages of Debian bug reports from 2007, and mailing list archives for a bit
[18:56] <arayaq> nick____: what you mean with gnome look?
[18:57] <Rory> zykotick9: Often works.
[18:57] <nick____> gnome desktop look
[18:57] <Rory> zykotick9: I've established the issue affects multiple users
[18:57] <nick____> u know what i mean i think
[18:57] <arayaq> nick____: a theme?
[18:57] <nick____> arayaq:  no not theme
[18:57] <Sc0rp10n> there you go Rory and polter http://paste.ubuntu.com/6133999/
[18:57] <nick____> i dont like unity
[18:57] <arayaq> nick____: as far as I know Gnome Look is a website
[18:58] <nick____> i want gnome look of 10.04
[18:58] <zykotick9> !notunity | nick____
[18:58] <nick____> i want ubuntu look like gnome
[18:58] <NewbieNo1> is there any way to at least get back to being able to change the brightness from the panel?
[18:58] <nick____> ubottu:  yes i hate unity :S
[18:58] <k1l> nick____: see the bots message
[18:58] <nick____> ok
[18:58] <nick____> thx
[18:58] <polter> Sc0rp10n: that looks ok to me
[18:58] <nick____> i ll install gnome-panel
[18:59] <zykotick9> NewbieNo1: didn't you add vendor, or something, to grub.conf?
[18:59] <NewbieNo1> yes I added that
[18:59] <NewbieNo1> but didn't work
[18:59] <Sc0rp10n> yea polter
[18:59] <arayaq> nick____: yes, and at login chose to use Gnome Classic
[18:59] <Rory> NewbieNo1: Yes. You can remove the part that says backlight=vendor or whatever, and then run sudo update-grub
[18:59] <gammarb> hi all, can anyone tell me if there's a way to find out what date i installed my distro?
[18:59] <nick____> arayaq:
[18:59] <zykotick9> NewbieNo1: so take it out, to get it back.  remember to run "sudo update-grub" after making your changes!
[18:59] <nick____> should i install via marketplace of ubuntu ?
[18:59] <Sc0rp10n> it's weird cause I can see the address bar in incognito for chromium but not in normal mode polter
[19:00] <nick____> i mean appstore ?
[19:00] <bejker> nick____:  try instal kde maby will by more friendly for you than gnome unity :)
[19:00] <NewbieNo1> rory I did that as well, but I still can't change the brightnes
[19:00] <wafflejock> nick____: you can use apt-get believe the app store will work fine too
[19:00] <nick____> no
[19:00] <nick____> i like ubuntu 10.04
[19:00] <nick____> which was classic
[19:00] <wafflejock> nick____: also I second bejker been running kubuntu now after checking out KDE from within Ubuntu decided to ditch Unity
[19:00] <nick____> 11.10 was not bad also
[19:00] <arayaq> nick____: if you want to. There's no important differente from using apt-get or the store
[19:00] <Rory> !mate | nick____
[19:00] <nick____> but i hate after that
[19:01] <NewbieNo1> thsi is what my grub file looks like now: http://pastebin.com/ezxJkvkX
[19:01] <bejker> wafflejock:  i have ubuntu 12.04 with KDE so is kubuntu? or ubuntu still?:P
[19:01] <zykotick9> nick____: 10.04 desktop is EOL (face facts), use gnome3's fallback/classic whatever it's called - if you want a similar environment.  many went to xfce.
[19:01] <nick____> Rory:  u made me mate ? :p
[19:01] <Rory> Do we not have Mate factoid? nick____ there is a desktop environment called Mate which is a fork of Gnome 2 http://wiki.mate-desktop.org/download#ubuntu
[19:01] <wafflejock> bejker: ubuntu + KDE I would call it since you still have all the unity dependencies around
[19:01] <Sc0rp10n> where can I find the actual executable for any application?
[19:01] <wafflejock> bejker: I'm on SSD so strapped for space
[19:01] <polter> Sc0rp10n: and the address bar doesn't show up if you click a tab?
[19:01] <nick____> zykotick9:  it was simple and smooth, also sophisticated
[19:02] <Rory> nick____: It's over though. We lost. We have to use Mate and XFCE
[19:02] <nick____> i hate looking at unity bar left of the screen at the moment :p
[19:02] <polter> Sc0rp10n: because you can set a flag in chromium to enable compact mode which hides the toolbar
[19:02] <Sc0rp10n> nope polter, no address bar, no extension icons or wrench icon
[19:02] <bejker> wafflejock: uuu when u use SSD swap move to other disk
[19:02] <Rory> Sc0rp10n: Hit F11
[19:02] <zykotick9> nick____: personally i went gnome2->my_wm-only_roots.  rip gnome2.  but, move on ;)
[19:02] <nick____> it is not nice they are forcing ppl for unity
[19:03] <polter> Sc0rp10n: try CTRL+ALT+B in Chromium
[19:03] <wafflejock> nick____: it's not forced it's just pushed
[19:03] <zykotick9> !ot | nick____
[19:03] <nick____> really it looks ugly on the left :S
[19:03] <k1l> nick____: dont think everyone got the same taste like you.
[19:03] <wafflejock> nick____: I think Unity looks nice but I missed the ability to customize things
[19:03] <nick____> ok ok i ll go offtopic :p
[19:03] <deflower> lol
[19:04] <k1l> nick____: you were helped with your issue. so please keep this channel clear for support and not flaming and ranting
[19:04] <nick____> i m there kll thx
[19:04] <sauerbraten> Is it possible to get a package included into the official ubuntu repositories? If so, how?
[19:04] <k1l> !msg ubottu !motu
[19:05] <gordonjcp> sauerbraten: yes, but it has to meet a very high standard
[19:05] <k1l> !motu
[19:05] <nick____> i installed this --->  Launcher and docking facility for GNOME
[19:05] <nick____> is this correct ?
[19:05] <whoever> Rory: thx it was that cachefile that was included
[19:05] <zykotick9> sauerbraten: your best bet, is start a ppa.  try to get it into debian sid/experimental would be another way... /me chuckles
[19:05] <dartos> Has anyone here set up a virtual server under an Ubuntu host? I'm using the bridged connection in virtualbox but my virtual server can't get an IP address. It seems to have an IPv6 one but not IPv4
[19:05] <NewbieNo1> http://pastebin.com/ezxJkvkX
[19:06] <dartos> Does anyone know why this might be happening?
[19:06] <Rory> No problem whoever
[19:06] <sauerbraten> gordonjcp, zykotick9: What I would like to have added is already included, just in a really old version. I'm a big fan of the game sauerbraten (partly the reason behind my name). I'd like to see the updated version included in the repos.
[19:06] <Rory> dartos: Please /join #vbox for Virtualbox user support
[19:06] <MonkeyDust> dartos  sounds like a setting error, try asking in #virtualbox
[19:06] <MonkeyDust> Rory  was faster :)
[19:06] <gordonjcp> sauerbraten: chat to the package maintainer
[19:07] <dartos> MonkeyDust: oh okay. I thought it was something with ubuntu. Thanks!
[19:07] <zykotick9> NewbieNo1: sidenote: i don't go to pastebin.com, if you repaste/use paste.ubuntu.com i can see too.
[19:07] <gordonjcp> sauerbraten: if they won't upgrade it, perhaps you can take the package, make your own, and create a PPA
[19:07] <NewbieNo1> zykotick9: ok..
[19:07] <nick____> another question is , is it possible to customize unity ?
[19:07] <Sc0rp10n> polter the shortcut you mentioned doesn't do anything
[19:07] <MonkeyDust> nick____  try unity-tweak-tool
[19:07] <wafflejock> nick____: you can verify at the command line easily, Ctrl+Alt+T for a terminal type "sudo apt-get install gnome-shell -s"
[19:07] <gordonjcp> nick____: customise in what way?
[19:07] <nick____> ok MonkeyDust
[19:07] <NewbieNo1> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6134045/
[19:07] <polter> Sc0rp10n: does running "chromium-browser --temp-profile" change anything for you?
[19:08] <wafflejock> nick____: the -s means simulate won't actually install but should show if it is installed
[19:08] <nick____> gordonjcp:  shape, icon, position..etc
[19:08] <gordonjcp> sauerbraten: I haven't played it for years, would have a shot now if the download wasn't so huge
[19:08] <gordonjcp> nick____: of what?
[19:08] <nick____> of unity bar
[19:08] <NewbieNo1> zykotick9: could you see it?
[19:08] <Sc0rp10n> nope polter
[19:08] <gordonjcp> nick____: oh, you can set the icon size as long as you're not running unity-2d
[19:08] <zykotick9> NewbieNo1: the only thing i see you loading is the default?  GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="quiet splash"
[19:08] <bejker> i have 2 panels on desktop on the botom i have "K start button" and manager on top i have clock and programs and all the times when i turn os on thise panel on top of the screen is little lower than top of the screen and i need  manual change position of panel, any idea?
[19:09] <sauerbraten> gordonjcp: yes, ppa would be my best bet, but I'll try talking to a package maintainer first now. thanks
[19:09] <Sc0rp10n> Rory, I can't use f11 cause it changes the sound in mac. Weird
[19:09] <nick____> gordonjcp:   what about position ?
[19:09] <Sc0rp10n> even if I try it with command + f11
[19:09] <nick____> bottom, top , right .. instead of left ?
[19:09] <gordonjcp> nick____: you can rearrange the icons on it.  It's stuck to the left side.
[19:09] <NewbieNo1> zykotick9: that's what it looks like now
[19:09] <wafflejock> nick____: http://askubuntu.com/questions/29553/how-can-i-configure-unity
[19:09] <nick____> stucked ?
[19:09] <nick____> cant move it ?
[19:09] <zykotick9> NewbieNo1: "cat /proc/cmdline" it's only 1 line - so to the channel.
[19:09] <gordonjcp> nick____: that's mildly annoying, but less so than having its equivalent along the bottom like in OSX
[19:10] <dman777_alter> anyone use uwsgi? how do i force it to use python 2.7?
[19:10] <nick____> really sucks
[19:10] <nick____> it is ugly , also cant move :S
[19:10] <polter> Sc0rp10n: you could probably clear out the cache and config folders for chromium.  That's /home/Sc0rp10n/.config/chromium and /home/Sc0rp10n/.cache/chromium but that will wipe all extensions, history... everything
[19:10] <Rory> I need to leave for a while.
[19:10] <gordonjcp> dman777_alter: it should run 2.7 by default, if that's what you've got installed
[19:11] <Impossible1> anyone familiar with namebench
[19:11] <gordonjcp> nick____: <shrug>
[19:11] <polter> basically it will reset it
[19:11] <wafflejock> nick____: if you want to customize I really suggest just switching the DE, Unity isn't really geared towards the tweakers, it works well for general users I think
[19:11] <nashant> If anyone is interested as to why I was getting a kernel panic after reboot but not when booting from cold, when grub installed for some reason it didn't create a device map. So I ran grub-mkdevicemap and now I'm rebooting fine
[19:11] <zykotick9> !anyone > Impossible1
[19:11] <NewbieNo1> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/6134060/
[19:11] <gordonjcp> nick____: maybe another DE is more like what you're after
[19:11] <gordonjcp> nick____: what are you used to?
[19:11] <wafflejock> nick____: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE
[19:11] <zykotick9> NewbieNo1: reboot!  acpi_backlight=vendor
[19:11] <Sc0rp10n> that's alright, polter
[19:11] <gordonjcp> nick____: oh, you're already in #u-ot
[19:11] <nick____> gordonjcp:   i was use to use ubuntu before unity
[19:12] <wafflejock> nick____: http://www.filiwiese.com/installing-gnome-on-ubuntu-12-04-precise-pangolin/
[19:12] <nick____> and i dont like other versions of linux
[19:12] <NewbieNo1> zykotick9: strange, I updated the grub
[19:12] <dman777_alter> gordonjcp: python --version shows Python 2.7.3. but when i run it i get the same error as i did in gentoo...-- unavailable modifier requested: 0 --....when it was using non python 2.7.*. gentoo had a special /usr/bin/uwsgi_python27
[19:12] <zykotick9> NewbieNo1: did you run "sudo update-grub"?
[19:12] <wafflejock> nick____: pasted links above for KDE then Gnome configuration in Ubuntu
[19:12] <Impossible1> when i open name bench, under 'Nameservers' I see 127.0.0.1. Should I change it to the DNS servers I have currently? or do i leave that
[19:12] <NewbieNo1> yes, and after that I restarted zykotick9
[19:12] <NewbieNo1> brb
[19:12] <zykotick9> NewbieNo1: you are currently booted with acpi_backlight=vendor
[19:13] <bejker> Impossible1: 127.0.0.1 is local so dont change that
[19:13] <nick____> ok wafflejock  and other friends thank u a lot
[19:13] <nick____> i ll read all of them
[19:13] <wafflejock> nick____: if you find you like one more than Unity perhaps consider going with Kubuntu or installing Linux Mint (ubuntu fork) Mate instead
[19:13] <wafflejock> nick____: no problem I just had a DE meltdown myself so I know the feeling best of luck
[19:14] <nick____> wafflejock:   i dont like other themes or tweaks
[19:14] <nick____> i was in love with the look of 10.10
[19:14] <Impossible1> bejker thanks. It says 127.0.0.1 is the fastest primary and gives me a different secondary. SHould i change it to 127.0.0.1 in my router or is it says that i should leave the one i currently have
[19:14] <nick____> 10.04 too
[19:14] <NewbieNo1> zykotick9: thx now I can change brightness with the panel brightness changes
[19:14] <nick____> maybe 11.04
[19:15] <bejker> Impossible1: 127.0.0.1 is not DNS thise is localhost
[19:15] <NewbieNo1> but I'd still would like to be able to do it with the fn keys like I could when I installed the driver
[19:16] <Sc0rp10n> hey polter, I removed everything but can't remove custom.css in .config/chromium/Default/User stylesheets/
[19:16] <wafflejock> nick____: I agree I am more fond of the older DEs but I can see the advantage of Unity for someone who is coming in fresh and knows nothing of Linux, it's friendly and everything is already set for you.  Ubuntu was also trying to become a one OS for all platforms system (still is) so I think that's a big reason for the UI choices (think tablet or phone)
[19:16] <bejker> Impossible1:  why you dont use dynDNS?
[19:16] <nick____> wafflejock:   look what i want  :   http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1d/Ubuntu_10.10_preview.png
[19:16] <polter> Sc0rp10n: is chromium closed? try doing a "killall chromium-browser" to kill off any background processes
[19:17] <Impossible1> bejker i have never heard of that
[19:17] <k1l> nick____: fallback session /classic session is the best you can get
[19:17] <zykotick9> NewbieNo1: SIDENOTE i actually use acpi_backlight=vendor to FIX my brighness controls on a couple of my EEE PCs, BUT there are other options with that!  you should search for acpi options, or bugs, online.  something there COULD fix things ;)  best of luck.
[19:17] <nick____> it was nice the thin bars at top and bottom
[19:17] <nick____> and nothing on desktop
[19:17] <Griff|> Hi, I am looking for some advice. I am about to format to Ubuntu and thought I should probably go ahead and encrypt both my bootable SSD as well as my RAID array. I'm also considering switching from 0 to 5, and adding an extra drive. Are there any precautions I need to take, or specific articles which I should read before making the transition? My data is backing up now.
[19:17] <k1l> nick____: but be aware that its cut off in some settings
[19:18] <k1l> nick____: i would suggest to take a look at xfce or lxde (xubuntu and lubuntu)
[19:18] <bejker> Impossible1:  dynamic DNS like you have DHCP dynamic IP adress thise work like that, give you best dynamic DNS
[19:18] <wafflejock> nick____: yup doing the Gnome-Shell install then picking that from the login screen (you'll have to logout) should get you back to what you're looking for basically... I can't strongly enough suggest checking out KDE though... it's been a long time since I even took a glance at it and it's really pretty awesome now
[19:18] <wafflejock> nick____: guess you're gonna hear everyones opinions on DE now :)
[19:18] <mikeman> Greetings! Where is a good place to go for general help for newbies....
[19:18] <nick____> wafflejock:  can u show me screenshot ?
[19:18] <nick____> or preview ?
[19:19] <Impossible1> bejker dynDNS is only if i have a dynamic ip?
[19:19] <bejker> mikeman:  here :)
[19:19] <polter> wafflejock: indeed KDE is pretty great nowadays
[19:19] <NewbieNo1> zykotick9: ok, one last thing, what does acpi stand for?
[19:19] <bejker> Impossible1:  no, you can change manual to just have dynamic DNS
[19:19] <bejker> and static IP
[19:19] <mikeman> Excellent! Im a little ashamed to admit that just getting onto xchat was a bit of a challenge for me haha....
[19:19] <zykotick9> NewbieNo1: advance control power interface (or something).... phone brb
[19:20] <bejker> mikeman:  i never use xchat, Thise is chanel ubuntu support not xchat :)
[19:20] <Sc0rp10n> hey polter, it didn't work but I think it's a different issue
[19:21] <mikeman> so in short, i think my shockwave player is out of date.... is there a generic way to update said player?
[19:21] <Sc0rp10n> but thanks for all your help polter
[19:21] <Sc0rp10n> gtg for lunch now
[19:21] <bejker> mikeman: apt-get update
[19:21] <polter> Sc0rp10n: aw that sucks. yeah no probs. I hope it works out
[19:21] <venux> What program controls gtk themes?  For instance, I've built a desktop environment and added it to the GDM sessions list, but when I go into it, I did not specify a gtk theme manager, so all apps look really bad.  I have xfwm, awn, xsettingsd, etc, but nothing regarding GTK what should I add to the session so that apps don't look terrible?
[19:21] <Griff|> Hi, I am looking for some advice. I am about to format to Ubuntu and thought I should probably go ahead and encrypt both my bootable SSD as well as my RAID array. I'm also considering switching from 0 to 5, and adding an extra drive. Are there any precautions I need to take, or specific articles which I should read before making the transition? My data is backing up now.
[19:21] <zykotick9> NewbieNo1: acpi is your power management stuff.
[19:21] <nick____> brb - restarting
[19:22] <polter> venux: you can use the .gtkrc file for that I believe
[19:22] <venux> ok, thank you.
[19:22] <kostkon> mikeman, if you want the latest flash version then your only option is to use chrome
[19:22] <mikeman> apologies for the confusion... I was simply using getting on xchat as a example of my newbieness...
[19:22] <bejker> Griff|:  swap on other drive
[19:22] <zykotick9> NewbieNo1: ;) i was close,  Advanced Configuration and Power Interface
[19:22] <zykotick9>  
[19:22] <Griff|> Swap on the SSD? Ofcourse.
[19:22] <wafflejock> oh well nick___ is gone but here's the shot of my current KDE setup http://snag.gy/kQjhA.jpg
[19:23] <bejker> Griff|:  no dont put swap on SSD
[19:23] <polter> venux: check out the ArchLinux wikipage on GTK: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/GTK%2B
[19:23] <Griff|> Is there anything in the process which might be problematic for me? I'm by no means a guru, but I know my way around, just about.
[19:23] <kostkon> mikeman, adobe has stopped updating the linux version of the flash plugin. the only way to have the latest version is to use chrome
[19:23] <Griff|> Ohh? No?
[19:23] <AiriA> So does Ubuntu have a feature similar to Windows sever were I can span multiple drives?
[19:23] <Griff|> Why not?
[19:23] <NewbieNo1> zykotick9: is there any way for me to change it so that i can use fn keys?
[19:23] <venux> I'll have a look, thanks polter
[19:24] <polter> venux: sure, good luck
[19:24] <mikeman> ok - i got some updates running, for chrome et all... so hopefully this resolves my isue
[19:24] <andyfied> AiriA: i happily set up a software raid in server
[19:24] <mikeman> thank you very much for you help
[19:24] <bejker> Griff|:  SSD have lifetime if you know and swap is all time read/write/erased you want to kill disk?
[19:24] <mikeman> err... your*
[19:24] <zykotick9> NewbieNo1: probably!  but i don't know how, and i'd guess it's non-trivial.
[19:24] <kostkon> mikeman, but flash 11.2.x that ubuntu offers is good enough for 98% of the sites
[19:25] <Griff|> True... But 16gb of ram should surely be more than enough for the swap to rarely be used? Even so, I will take your advice and keep it on D:
[19:25] <lapt0p> Is there a way to get GPS data with your Android smartphone, and make it stream it to your Ubuntu? Curious to know :).
[19:25] <zykotick9> NewbieNo1: if you are really interested, research xev for a starting point ;)
[19:25] <Griff|> keep it on the raid*
[19:25] <Triple15_> hhh
[19:25] <andyfied> AiriA: logical volume manager is what you want iirc
[19:25] <Triple15_> hallo könnt ihr mir helfen
[19:25] <wafflejock> lapt0p: you mean an app or are you looking for a programmable solution?
[19:25] <AiriA> On my windows server I spanned 2 drives to combine the space and make it appear as one drive. The reason why I am asking is I am considering updating my server to ubuntu server
[19:25] <Triple15_> hello i need help
[19:25] <NewbieNo1> zykotick9: what is "xev" in the first place?
[19:26] <bejker> Griff|:  yes, but i dont know why a lot of programs use swap even the have free ram
[19:26] <andyfied> AiriA: logical volume manager will do it i believe
[19:26] <kostkon> mikeman, i mean chrome, not chromium. just pointing out the difference
[19:26] <zykotick9> NewbieNo1: lol, find out.  "man xev"
[19:26] <Triple15_> can i install ubuntu on ps3
[19:26] <AiriA> Ok, thanks. I will look into that.
[19:26] <lapt0p> wafflejock: Have no idea, app or a programmable solution, whatever :D
[19:26] <andyfied> np
[19:26] <bejker> Triple15_:  yes u can
[19:26] <NewbieNo1> zykotick9: so you know how to use xev but you don't actually know what it is?
[19:26] <zykotick9> NewbieNo1: trust me, remaping the additional keys/fn keys - is gonna get ugly, probably quickly.
[19:26] <polter> bejker: didn't sony remove the option to boot Linux?
[19:27] <NewbieNo1> ok hten zykotick9
[19:27] <bejker> polter:  i have shell on ps3 :)
[19:27] <grex25> Is there a way to install ubuntu software center applications (I want IntelliJ) with apt-get? (Free apps, but bought for 0.00)
[19:27] <smaudet> Hey, having some problems with uefi boots, already tried the manual at !uefi, didn't work, thanks
[19:27] <wafflejock> wafflejock: You can use Lookout which will find your phone location and can be accessed via a web browser so any OS will do, alternatively you could transmit the data via an IP (if both devices share a network).  Google is supposedly introducing a find my phone feature into an upcoming version of the OS as well
[19:27] <wafflejock> oops lapt0p I meant :)
[19:27] <andyfied> AiriA: if LVM doesn't help then you can always try to set up a raid with the terminal, it's really not too hard :)
[19:27] <luky> can someone help me with my mailserver i cant get emails only sending is possible
[19:27] <luky> dont know where the error is
[19:27] <AiriA> I guess as long as it does the same thing
[19:27] <smaudet> To restate my question: what issues might I be having stopping me from booting ubuntu 13.04 at all? Its a lenovo g700 with intel hd 4000 graphics, if that helps at all
[19:28] <wafflejock> lapt0p: alternatively you can use Google Latitude which shares your location though I'm not sure if there's an API or way to access that data
[19:28] <zykotick9> grex25: search for the package name from terminal "apt-cache search foo" replace foo with whatever you want to search for.
[19:28] <wafflejock> luky: what mail server are you using have you checked the logs?
[19:28] <andyfied> AiriA: to start off though, run "apt-get install lvm2" or have a look in synaptic for it. lvm is definitely friendlier
[19:28] <AiriA> is it GUI or all command line?
[19:28] <polter> wafflejock: latitude is no more
[19:28] <wafflejock> polter: yeah I kinda had the lingering feeling that was true thx for the clarification
[19:29] <venux> polter: quick question, so gtkrc-2 is a file it appears that specifies the gtk theme and icons and whatnot to use.  So, if I build a gtkrc-2 file, and add it to the start up list for the desktop environments file, would that work?  And could I store the gtkrc-2 file inside say /usr/share/venux?
[19:29] <luky> http://pastebin.com/mXJiBeah
[19:29] <luky> this are the log files i cant do anything with that
[19:29] <grex25> zykotick9: This is not working at propitary applications
[19:29] <venux> /usr/share/venux contains my venux-desktop.sh file which launches xfwm, awn, etc and is called by /usr/share/xsessions/venux.desktop
[19:29] <Triple15_> ps3 always starts automatically in linux and ubuntu?
[19:29] <polter> venux: well it's usually place in the home directory of the use
[19:30] <venux> right, I'm looking to package this as well, though
[19:30] <andyfied> AiriA: lvm is gui
[19:31] <AiriA> andyfied: awesome. Thanks. Yeah I will look into it on my VM before I'll deploy to my server if I decide to change over
[19:31] <wafflejock> luky: did a quick Googling this may help not sure http://www.howtoforge.com/forums/showthread.php?t=58390
[19:32] <zykotick9> grex25: thank you.  i did not realize ubuntu software center, really was an app store at this point.  good to know.  best of luck.
[19:32] <andyfied> AiriA: obviously be careful with anything that messes with your hard drives :)
[19:33] <AiriA> andyfied: everything is backed up anyway. but yes good point
[19:33] <grex25> zykotick9: Ty anyway,    theres a solutions copying files from /etc/apt/... ;)
[19:33] <polter> venux: I think the defaults are set in /etc/gtk-2.0 and etc/gtk-3.0
[19:34] <andyfied> AiriA: i work in data recovery, so i always recommend a good back up!
[19:34] <Griff|> Hi, I am looking for some advice. I am about to format to Ubuntu and thought I should probably go ahead and encrypt both my bootable SSD as well as my RAID array. I'm also considering switching from 0 to 5, and adding an extra drive to make 5*1tb drives. Are there any precautions I need to take, specific articles which I should read, or problems I am likely to encounter? My data is backing up
[19:34] <Griff|> now. I am by no means a guru, however I can work my way around linux with a bit of google-fu.
[19:34] <polter> venux: but I haven't messed with that so I can't be too sure. before you do anything make backups of the files :)
[19:35] <AiriA> andyfied: I see. more often than not people are calling me because they DIDNT back up data and go...please can you do something!!! And all I can say is..if you dont have a backup...I cant restore anything lol
[19:35] <venux> thank you, i will look into that
[19:35] <Pricey> Arg... after installing Ubuntu won't boot. If I boot off the usb unetbootin, i get the actual disk's bootloader and grub lets me to right through to ubuntu. I've seen this before but can't remember how to fix it... only the ubuntu / has a bootable flag. Any ideas?
[19:35] <andyfied> AiriA: hehe, well find a good DR cpmpany and they might be able to get 90% of cases back
[19:35] <Marlenee> i need some help in installing "AjaXplorer 5" on my server !
[19:36] <andyfied> AiriA: watch out for scammer though, seems to be a big thing
[19:36] <smaudet> Pricey, just a guess, use the /boot partition as bootable?
[19:36] <Pricey> smaudet: I don't think I have one...
[19:36] <zykotick9> Pricey: fyi, grub doesn't even care about boot flags...  i'd recommend booting into ubuntu (using unetbootin, or whatever) then reinstall grub to the HD, fyi, it probably WILL NOT be sda.
[19:36] <Pricey> zykotick9: its on sdb
[19:37] <zykotick9> Pricey: so reinstall it to sdb, which will become sda when you boot off it.
[19:37] <venux> polter: I have the themes and all my resources set up on partition 1, and I'm using partition 2 to test creating sessions, DE's, etc.  So all this will occur on partition2, so I'm not worried if I destroy it :)
[19:38] <Pricey> zykotick9: Attempted, no dice.
[19:39] <venux> pricey, where did u install bootloader during installation?
[19:39] <Pricey> venux: Just went through the installer, nothing special.
[19:39] <luky> OK WTF?!?!??! I SHUT DOWN SERVER AND THE CLIENT CAN SEND MAILS STILL FINE?
[19:39] <luky> not really
[19:39] <zykotick9> isn't there some boot-repair thing in ubuntu now?  what's ubottu's factoid for it?
[19:39] <venux> so at the partitioning part, what did you select?
[19:39] <polter> venux: ah redundancy, good on you :)
[19:40] <Pricey> venux: I've got two disks. First is split evenly between windows 7 & /home, the second has / and swap.
[19:40] <wilee-nilee> Pricey, You can install the grub bootloader from it desktop, is this a dual boot in a uefi enviroment?
[19:40] <wilee-nilee> its*
[19:40] <Pricey> wilee-nilee: I don't think uefi is enabled..
[19:41] <wilee-nilee> Pricey, sdb is where ubuntu is?
[19:41] <Pricey> i imagine that might've been easier now
[19:41] <Pricey> wilee-nilee: sure
[19:41] <zykotick9> Pricey: have you tried whatever this is?  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[19:41] <wilee-nilee> Pricey, sudo grub-install /dev/sdb ; sudo update-grub
[19:41] <wilee-nilee> from its desktop
[19:41] <venux> polter: well I wanted to build a DE, I understand building a distro nobody really cares about because theres already too many, but I'm building one, and really digging deep into linux to do it, so I'm developing my own DE.  Before I decided on the DE part, I just had XFCE set up with avant widnow navigator, then I realized that wouldn't work, and so here I am with one "working" partition where I make graphics
[19:41] <venux> and front end changes, and then partition 2 is all backend testing, and once it works on partition 2 then i deploy those changes on partition 1
[19:43] <luky> wafflejock: the quick googleing was very very fail
[19:43] <polter> venux: cool stuff, especially since a lot of distros is just some other distro with another VM
[19:43] <luky> my server wont boot anymore
[19:43] <wilee-nilee> wilee-nilee, put sdb as read first in the bios and you should have a grub menu
[19:43] <Psil0Cybin> heyt guys quick question when i nmap my ip from my vpn
[19:43] <polter> venux: that's not really a discussion for #ubuntu though :)
[19:43] <Psil0Cybin> howcome i see that port 50001 is open
[19:43] <Psil0Cybin> what is that usually used for?
[19:44] <JoeyJoeJo> What package do I have to install to get perl's Data::Dumper module?
[19:44] <venux> yeah
[19:45] <zykotick9> JoeyJoeJo: try: apt-cache search "Data::Dumper" and see if something jumps out at you?  i have no idea btw...
[19:45] <dtcrshr> What happened to ubuntu and usb sticks? I cant manage to boot a quite large number of pcs with a usb stick, created with windows app suggested on ubuntu website. I downloaded mint and fedora for tsting purpures and they boot fine on 3 desks and 4 notebooks with no hassle
[19:45] <dtcrshr> Im trying ubuntu 13, 12 lts and some others
[19:45] <wilee-nilee> venux, If you are registered with freenode /j ##linux is more applicable
[19:45] <venux> ensure the unetbootin created USB sticks are formatted as FAT32?
[19:45] <zykotick9> dtcrshr: re win tool, do you mean unetbootin?
[19:46] <xatr0z> Psil0Cybin: there is no default usage, but i know some upnp/dlna servers that use it. Try to open localhost:50001 and see if you see an webserver
[19:46] <venux> wilee-nilee: I don't think I'm registered.
[19:47] <wilee-nilee> !register |  venux
[19:47] <wafflejock> luky: sorry to hear that it was just a search based on your logs
[19:47] <xatr0z> Psil0Cybin: but if you are using a vpn most likely all your ports are open to the world, so you should use a firewall on your computer instead of relying or your modem/NAT
[19:47] <Griff|> Hi, I am looking for some advice. I am about to format to Ubuntu and thought I should probably go ahead and encrypt both my bootable SSD as well as my RAID array. I'm also considering switching from 0 to 5, and adding an extra drive to make 5*1tb drives. Are there any precautions I need to take, specific articles which I should read, or problems I am likely to encounter? My data is backing up
[19:47] <Griff|> now. I am by no means a guru, however I can work my way around linux with a bit of google-fu.
[19:48] <mrrcp> l
[19:49] <wilee-nilee> Griff|, That is all beyond actual support, your are asking for advice, hit the web like the rest of us have
[19:51] <wafflejock> JoeyJoeJo: Appears to be in libdata-dumper-simple-perl http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/hardy/man3/Data::Dumper.3perl.html not positive on this as I don't use it but Google says so
[19:51] <MonkeyDust> Griff|  is that a server? if yes, better ask in #ubuntu-server
[19:58] <swaagie> any directions on where I should look if laptop with current drm-intel-nightly kernel fails to power off on shutdown, even with: -h / pure poweroff ?
[19:58] <Harmageddon> Hi! I'm trying to connect my Ubuntu 12.04 to the Internet via LAN. The network manager seems to get the connection, it shows a "Wired connection 1", but I can't get online.
[19:59] <ftregloin> does anybody know what maximum displays count ubuntu 13.4 supports?
[20:00] <ftregloin> i have to use 12 displays on one machine
[20:00] <zykotick9> swaagie: anything called "nightly" can't really be "relied" upon... BUT it might get fixed tomorrow ;)
[20:00] <ikonia> ftregloin: how are you setting that up from an xserver point of view ?
[20:00] <ikonia> ftregloin: I suspect that will be the deciding factor over anything
[20:00] <Harmageddon> Connecting via WLAN works fine, though.
[20:01] <swaagie> zykotick9: I understand :) but afraid it was required to get the screen working, and I'm not 100% sure its related to the kernel, but yeah...
[20:01] <fregloin> hm, the idea consists on usage of 2 radeon 7970 or 2 or 3 mattrox 9120
[20:01] <ikonia> fregloin: I didn't ask about your video cards, I asked how you where setting up the x servers
[20:01] <polter> Harmageddon: could be that it's set to static IP when it should be DHCP or vice versa
[20:01] <fregloin> we need use 3*4 displays 1920*1080
[20:01] <zykotick9> swaagie: i'm guessing it's that something changed with your nightly ppa, if it was working.  check there launchpad site, for bugs perhaps.
[20:02] <ikonia> fregloin: still not answering my questions
[20:03] <fregloin> i'm not professional on x server configuration, so i can't answer on your question. i thought about using of xrandr
[20:03] <Harmageddon> Oh, forget about my question, I forgot to set the IP options from manual to automatically/dhcp.
[20:03] <swaagie> zykotick9: probably, installed it yesterday though laptop is rather new, will keep an eye out for bug fixes and the #intel-gfx channel
[20:03] <swaagie> in other words cant really say it worked
[20:04] <swaagie> :P
[20:04] <fregloin> all that i know that it will be used 12 displays on one machine for rendering one Qt application
[20:04] <ikonia> fregloin: ok, so you need to make sure you don't use any functions that are propitary to a driver, and then look at using say xinerama to setup the xservers as required
[20:05] <fregloin> so there no limits on display count in kernel or something like that?
[20:05] <bejker> fregloin:  12 displays loool
[20:05] <fregloin> because in windows limit is 10
[20:05] <fregloin> what lol? )
[20:05] <ikonia> fregloin: shouldn't be no, you'll only be limited by the resources of your machine
[20:05] <luky> i wantet to call my server hosting provider but instead i dieled the wrong number someone from a mental hospital anwered :D:DD:
[20:05] <zykotick9> ikonia: fyi, propritary-ati (or propritary-nvidia) will intentionally block usage of the other...  bastards.  but if i had to do a VERY multimonitor setup, i'd try to go nvidia myself... (but i've never done more then 2 monitors)
[20:06] <fregloin> ok, that is what u wanted to hear
[20:06] <fregloin> thanks
[20:06] <bejker> fregloin:  realy a lot of displays in one machine
[20:06] <fregloin> yes a lot
[20:06] <ikonia> zykotick9: thats why I was saying keep away from functions that are propitary
[20:06] <fregloin> but it is mandatory
[20:06] <luky> i told him my customer number and he said customer number in our mental hospital :D:D:D
[20:06] <zykotick9> ikonia: which i thought was good advice :)
[20:06] <fregloin> to show of scheme of big plant
[20:07] <fregloin> earlier i wrote apps under qnx for two displays on one machine, but now i'll write some app to run on 12 diplsyas )
[20:08] <mn3monic> Hello, Anyone here has messed with DisplayLink USB GPU ?
[20:08] <lapt0p> Do i only need GTK+ to develop the visual part of an OS GUI?
[20:08] <fregloin> it's better to use Qt
[20:08] <ikonia> lapt0p: you've been asking this for a long time now - it depends
[20:09] <lapt0p> ikonia: I've asked it once, but no one has given me a decent answer :)
[20:09] <ikonia> lapt0p: they have
[20:09] <venux> lapt0p: yes
[20:09] <ikonia> lapt0p: I've explained this to you before
[20:09] <venux> if you are planning onusing gtk
[20:10] <lapt0p> ikonia: Would you mind to explain it again?
[20:10] <venux> then you can tie in gtkpy, and python
[20:10] <scottyinzeo> hi all - i just finished a clean install of ubuntu 13.04 on my macbook pro mid 2010 - i switched to the proprietary nvidia graphics driver - upon a restart, i'm able to login successfully, but within 2 seconds, the screen goes completely black, like the monitor gets turned off - any ideas?
[20:10] <fregloin> thanks to all for answers
[20:10] <ikonia> lapt0p: actually yes - as I said it depends on what you are doing what libraries you'll need, but in essense the tool kit you want to use, eg: gtk should be enough for the visual element
[20:10] <iMart1n> Hi guys, this week-end me and my mates are participating in a Hackathon in Montpellier, France. The goal is to create an app in 48 hours and the themes are mobility and ecology. Read the full story here : https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=6420111, and if you like the idea, please vote for us on facebook ! Love.
[20:10] <ikonia> iMart1n: please don't spam that sort of junk in here
[20:11] <venux> scottyinzeo: I had similar problem with my ATI driver, and my problem is that the newest klernel for linux doesn't support the ati driver (or the driver doesnt support the new linux kernel)
[20:11] <lapt0p> ikonia: Thanks, and what should i use to make those parts logically connected?
[20:11] <fregloin> well, we have same problem with our x550
[20:11] <ikonia> lapt0p: what do you mean "what should you use"
[20:11] <fregloin> downgrade of x server doesn't help
[20:11] <venux> scottyinzeo: this may be the same for nvidia.  I resolved by resintalling ubuntu lol
[20:12] <lattera> anyone have a good blog article (or at least a sample xorg config) for a triple-monitor setup?
[20:12] <lattera> or a tutorial, or whatever
[20:12] <fregloin> lettera, try xrandr
[20:12] <fregloin> it really helped me
[20:12] <lattera> using an nvidia card
[20:12] <ikonia> xrandr is not an xorg config
[20:12] <lapt0p> ikonia: A toolkit / programming language knowledge / something ... // I am a beginner...
[20:12] <lattera> well, two nvidia cards
[20:12] <fregloin> oh, sorry
[20:12] <ikonia> lapt0p: then try some research and tutorials
[20:12] <smallfoot> When I try to login to gnome-session-flashback it logs in into Unity instead :( Why? :(
[20:12] <fregloin> есть кто из наших?
[20:13] <scottyinzeo> venux, yeah, the open source driver works fine - i'm wondering if an older version of the driver might work?
[20:13] <bejker> fregloin: #ubuntu-ru
[20:13] <zykotick9> lattera: if you have, nvidia.  does nvidia-settings report both of your cards (perhaps separatly somehow?)
[20:13] <lapt0p> ikonia: Yeah, but someone has to give me the starting idea, so i'll know in which direction to make the research
[20:13] <fregloin> ok, 10x
[20:13] <mn3monic> venux, about ATI
[20:13] <lattera> zykotick9: yup, it does
[20:13] <lattera> separately
[20:13] <mn3monic> venux, update fglrx & dkms packages
[20:14] <ikonia> lapt0p: open a web browser, type "begining gtk gui development" into a search engine and read
[20:14] <User2005> I had an Adaptec raid adapater working as a passthru device (sda) on Ubuntu server 13.04 64bit, in vmware (esxi 5.1.0).
[20:14] <ikonia> lapt0p: "how do I develop in gtk" is not an ubuntu issue, also try the gtk channel
[20:14] <zykotick9> lattera: and does it allow you to setup things the way you want?  isn't there a save to xorg button or something (start it with gksudo, if you get an error).
[20:14] <User2005> And mounted /dev/sda1 to /data.
[20:14] <venux> Well see, aTI hasn't developed a new driver since an older kernel, so when I update the kernel the proprietary ati driver won't work.  But the one included in Ubuntu works fine for me (not the ati one specifically, the generic one)
[20:14] <smallfoot> User2005, you can mount it in /media/
[20:15] <User2005> Then I power off the system, remove the CD-rom, and now /dev/sda is gone. (lspci shows the controller)
[20:15] <mn3monic> venux, the problem inside the log is with the dkms compiling, ah ?
[20:15] <lattera> zykotick9: ah, gotcha, looks like it might
[20:15] <mn3monic> right ?
[20:15] <lattera> let's see if this works :)
[20:15] <lattera> brb, gonna install the new xorg config and reboot
[20:15] <lapt0p> ikonia: Thanks
[20:15] <venux> scottyinzeo: an older kernel should work.  Maybe check what was the last kernel that the driver supported and downgrade accordingly
[20:15] <ikonia> smallfoot: he didn't ask where he can mount it, he said it's already mounted
[20:15] <bejker> User2005: use automatic mount
[20:15] <smallfoot> ikonia, okay, but I would mount it in /mnt or /media, which is where its supposed to go
[20:15] <venux> mn3monic: haven't checked the log, just admitted defeat and stopped trying to use the ati driver
[20:15] <ikonia> smallfoot: he can mount it where he wants.
[20:16] <shader> hello, how do I set which version of a package gets the command name? I remember there being a command for it, but I've forgotten what it was. Eg. emacs-snapshot for emacs
[20:16] <mn3monic> venux, check the install log, if the problem is with DKMS, then upload dkms with package from saucy, it will work
[20:16] <bejker> User2005:  use fstab
[20:16] <bejker> !fstab User2005
[20:16] <kostkon> shader, update-xxxx-alternatives
[20:16] <bejker> stupid bot
[20:16] <venux> it happened to me a long time ago, and I've since reinstalled ubuntu.  Won't be messing with it til it's stable
[20:16] <kostkon> shader, sudo update-xxxx-alternatives
[20:16] <shader> kostkon: what's the xxx?
[20:16] <User2005> I have it in fstab, but as I said, /dev/sda no longer shows up (let alone sda1)
[20:16] <venux> (long time ago for me is a couple months and multiple reinstallations)
[20:17] <kostkon> shader, the software in question, e.g. update-java-alternatives
[20:17] <shader> ok
[20:17] <shader> thanks
[20:17] <bejker> User2005:  what u have write in fstab?
[20:17] <User2005> bejker: /dev/sdb1 /data ext4 defaults 1 2
[20:17] <ikonia> User2005: "sdb"
[20:18] <smallfoot> When I try to login to gnome-session-flashback it logs in into Unity instead :(
[20:18] <User2005> ikonia: correct, sorry, my bad
[20:18] <ikonia> User2005: have you added the disk in vmware, or just the conroller ?
[20:18] <ikonia> User2005: eg: does that machine have an additional storage device added to it's profile ?
[20:19] <User2005> Just the controller, as a passthru device (PCI)
[20:19] <venux> smallfoot: reinstall gnome
[20:19] <bejker> User2005:  type fdisk -l
[20:19] <bejker> User2005:  sudo fdisk -l
[20:19] <mn3monic> anyone here has displaylink usb gpus working under xorg?
[20:19] <zykotick9> bejker: and if they use gpt, "sudo parted -l" ;)
[20:20] <bejker> zykotick9:  realy i dont know that command ;)
[20:20] <lattera> so it kinda/sorta works, but not really
[20:21] <venux> hah I have a tech support position with a wireless company, and while doing that I'm in here answering any questions I feel safe answering lol
[20:21] <zykotick9> bejker: get with the gpt world ;)  i just joking, i was a hard core fdisk person for MANY years, but really, it's the worst choice...  i've moved on.
[20:21] <bejker> User2005:  best way is mount UUID number no /dev/sdb
[20:22] <User2005> bejker: fdisk does not show it.
[20:22] <zykotick9> bejker: LOL, NO.  best way is LABELS
[20:23] <bejker> zykotick9:  O, i didnt know that, all persons told me to use UUID :)
[20:24] <bejker> User2005:  type sudo fdisk -l and put all on pastebin.com
[20:25] <zykotick9> bejker: i only use UUID for swap (and even that isn't REALLY necessary, but it doesn't offer label for swap during install: you can put labels on swap, at creation time)
[20:25] <User2005> bejker: blkid does not show it either :( If lspci didn't show it, I would think it had disapeared completely
[20:25] <User2005> bejker: 2 sec.
[20:26] <lattera> looks like Unity doesn't like the third monitor
[20:26] <zykotick9> lattera: i'd try a different DE/WM if i where you, before spending too much time testing in unity (which has multi-monitor issues)
[20:27] <bejker> zykotick9: i have swap mounted /dev/disk but in fdisk -l they showm me something like cyptswap1 wtf is that?
[20:27] <MoALTz> when trying to install xorg-dev via the ubuntu software center (need it to build SDL2 correctly) it pops up a message saying: "If you install xorg-dev, future updates will not include new items in The Ubuntu desktop system set. Are you sure you want to continue?" - what exactly does it mean? seems silly that an optional dev package will BLOCK or break updates :s
[20:28] <zykotick9> bejker: sorry if you're using an encrypted filesystem = i have no idea.  best of luck.
[20:28] <MoALTz> i'm finding nothing useful from plugging this sort of message into search engines
[20:28] <Guest35501> Hello there - I'm having trouble setting up dual monitors in 13.04 (one monitor is hooked up VGA-to-DVI-I and the other is DVI-D-to-DVI-D), the DVI-D monitor shows up as "unknown" with the latest Nvidia drivers... Any thoughts on what to do to make the OS detect the monitor correctly?
[20:28] <bejker> zykotick9:  sometimes i give shell to my friend so i encrypt :)
[20:29] <MoALTz> (i'm wary about just installing because i nuked an ubuntu vm earlier today by following the guide here: http://askubuntu.com/questions/344512/what-is-the-general-procedure-to-install-development-libraries-in-ubuntu ....)
[20:31] <User2005> bejker: http://pastebin.com/zpjr5aLW
[20:32] <User2005> bejker: fdisk does mention that root and swap doesn't contain a valid partition table?
[20:34] <User2005> bejker: but I expect that is because of lvm
[20:34] <HackerII> wow john ___________time no see
[20:36] <bejker> User2005:  in BIOS they show you 2 disk?
[20:36] <mrrcp> whats the proper location to save shared files in ubuntu
[20:36] <mrrcp> such as music or pictures
[20:36] <mrrcp> etc
[20:37] <bejker> mrrcp: /home/user
[20:37] <lattera> if I place the third monitor on the same video card as the other two monitors (my card has one dvi and two hdmi), the third monitor is listed, but when I try to enable the monitor with ubuntu's screen config setting, I get this error: http://pastebin.com/1nvycqLq
[20:38] <mrrcp> so just tell them the location?
[20:38] <Lsak> Hi there, I was wondering if I could get some help. I've tried googling the issue but i'm getting stuck at one of the steps. I am trying to run a dual boot system on seperate hard drives with Win7 and Ubuntu 12.10. I am currently getting the blank screen error and from I read I need to try install the newest Nvidia drivers but when I try getting into terminal using ctrl+alt+f1 the terminal
[20:38] <Lsak> doesn't appear so I cannot use apt-get to update the drivers. Any ideas?
[20:39] <bejker> mrrcp:  i think
[20:39] <bejker> Lsak:  try logout and log without x sesion
[20:40] <ChaosTheory> I'd like to run a script on boot that requires sudo, how would I go about doing that?
[20:41] <Pricey> ran grub-install on both disks again, fixed...
[20:43] <User2005> Bejker: I'll check, I wouldn't expect so, the RAID controller has it's own BIOS.
[20:43] <Lsak> can I start x session from root?
[20:43] <bedo2991> Hello, I'm trying to install moonlight but I get a 403 error at the page http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight/ Any other way to get it?
[20:44] <bejker> Lsak:  yes u can
[20:44] <bejker> User2005:  all raid controller have own bios :) it's normal
[20:46] <User2005> bejker: Exactly, I've never seen their volumes show up in the "regular" BIOS, but I will check for you.
[20:46] <bejker> bedo2991:  no, moonlight is not working silverlight is crap
[20:46] <kostkon> bedo2991, pipelight is what you need
[20:47] <MoALTz> ok now i'm annoyed. this time i backed up my ubuntu vm image, then followed the sudo apt-get command in http://askubuntu.com/questions/344512/what-is-the-general-procedure-to-install-development-libraries-in-ubuntu
[20:47] <bejker> User2005:  if i good remember they show in regular bios as 2 diferent hard drive
[20:47] <DJones> bedo2991: From memory, I thought the moonlight project had been dropped a couple of years back
[20:47] <MoALTz> then i restarted the vm. result: the desktop environment is broken
[20:47] <ikonia> moonlight is dead
[20:47] <MoALTz> it does not finish the loading screen
[20:47] <MoALTz> (ubuntu 12.04.3 LTS)
[20:47] <djangonoob> hi, I have a problem with an usb stick... I can't see it
[20:47] <MoALTz> ssh still works, so i know the system isn't frozen
[20:47] <ikonia> MoALTz: why are you blindlny installing things
[20:48] <djangonoob> also gparted and "df -h"
[20:48] <ikonia> MoALTz: why don't you just install "what you need"
[20:48] <MoALTz> ikonia: cannot "install" SDL2 because it isn't in the software center
[20:49] <ikonia> MoALTz: right - so think about your options then
[20:49] <ikonia> MoALTz: you are installing developmen libraries, so you must have a basic grasp on how to do this as somsone who can use these development libraries, and the risks of causing a conflict ?
[20:49] <bedo2991> DJones: they'd better bring the moonlight page down rather than keeping it without the download page or a reasonable explanation.
[20:49] <bedo2991> kostkon: thanks, I'll try it
[20:50] <MoALTz> such as building it myself? when i follow a guide that is claimed to work it ruins my system. when i try installing the dependencies one at a time via the software center i get a vague and dangerous sounding warning on trying to install xorg-dev
[20:50] <ikonia> MoALTz: those instructions are terrible on that website
[20:50] <User2005> bejker: It doesn't show the drive (Or RAID volumn rather); But I am fairly certain this is because the motherboard BIOS will only show its own controllers attached drives.
[20:50] <ikonia> MoALTz: sorry, that lack of attention to detail is unacceptable
[20:50] <DJones> bedo2991: Found this http://www.infoq.com/news/2012/05/Miguel-Moonlight "Miguel: We have abandoned Moonlight." about half way down the page
[20:50] <Guest35501> exit
[20:50] <bejker> User2005:  but in controller bios show 2 drives?
[20:50] <djangonoob> help... I cant see my usb stick
[20:51] <User2005> the RAID controller shows 8 disks, in one RAID6 volumn, yes.
[20:51] <bejker> 8 disk :o
[20:52] <kostkon> bedo2991, article about it here http://www.webupd8.org/2013/08/pipelight-use-silverlight-in-your-linux.html
[20:53] <User2005> And that volumn, this virtual machine showed as /dev/sdb1 before I shut it down, and detached the CD-rom image with ubuntu-server on it.
[20:53] <bejker> User2005:  so if they realy shows in controller bios and os dont shows drives i real dont know how to help you
[20:54] <quantumpants_> Hay guys, Im new to ubuntu and dont really know much about programming etc, any tips on where to start??
[20:54] <ikonia> quantumpants_: read a tutorial on the languages you are interesed in
[20:54] <User2005> Bejker: Okay, thank you for lending your time all the same; Nice to know I am not alone ;)
[20:54] <quantumpants_> I was thinking C++?
[20:54] <bedo2991> pipelight's not working too
[20:54] <ikonia> quantumpants_: ok, so read a tutorial on that
[20:54] <kostkon> quantumpants_, http://developer.ubuntu.com/
[20:55] <ikonia> quantumpants_: try the ##programming channel
[20:56] <quantumpants_> thanks guys
[20:56] <Braun>  i can'ttype .in arabic,falks
[20:56] <bejker> User2005: try type fdisk /dev/sdb
[20:57] <smaudet> Ok, is Intel HD 4000 supported by Ubuntu?
[20:57] <kostkon> smaudet, yes
[20:58] <User2005> I am new to this vmware passthru game; Can anyone tell me if the device id (when editing the vm's settings), should match the device from lspci (because vmware says 05:00:0, and lspci says 03:00:0) - I just imagined that vmware shows the id of the >actual< device, and the virtual machine, shows the id of where it now is "virtually", even though it is passed through. ? (a VMware question, I know, but maybe soemone knows)
[20:58] <smaudet> kostkon: hmm, thanks, been trying to get this lenovo g700 to boot something, anything thats not windows 8. all day X_X
[20:59] <kostkon> smaudet, what is the problem you are facing
[21:00] <mrrcp> smaudet: new to win 8?
[21:00] <smaudet> kostkon: nothing has been booting, I've tried gparted, kubuntu 13.04, ubuntu 13.04, via cd, usb, crunchbang linux - I get a black screen of 'death', nothing shows up
[21:00] <mrrcp> get used to that.. you need to disable the extra crap in the bios
[21:00] <smaudet> mrrcp, been doing that
[21:00] <smaudet> not been helping
[21:00] <mrrcp> nope
[21:00] <Braun> who's in charge here?
[21:00] <mrrcp> trust me i had this issue a few weeks ago
[21:00] <mrrcp> disable the security
[21:00] <smaudet> Braun, no one
[21:01] <smaudet> mrrcp, first thing I did
[21:01] <smaudet> didn't help
[21:01] <smaudet> mrrcp, I think its a video driver issue
[21:01] <mrrcp> 1 sec
[21:01] <mrrcp> nah
[21:01] <mrrcp> you saying it wont even let you select the file to boot?
[21:01] <mrrcp> your
[21:01] <mrrcp> right?
[21:02] <User2005> smaudet: I've run several ubuntu's with HD4000, but the most I stress a graphics card is qt creator or maybe vlc, so I couldn't tell you how "well" it performs.
[21:02] <smaudet> mrrcp hang on
[21:02] <kostkon> smaudet, hmm do you think it could be this backlight prob? https://01.org/linuxgraphics/node/143
[21:04] <jerkahol> 'm running Ubuntu without GPU drivers :/ producing much lesser heat than Spl Driver
[21:05] <User2005> smaudet: btw. intel hd4000, 3770T/K CPU's with z77 chipsets.
[21:05] <dtcrshr> zykotick9: yes, unetbootin
[21:06] <dtcrshr> I found an old dvdrw here, burned 12.04.3 lts and im finishing install
[21:06] <smaudet> thanks guys sorry a bit overwhelmed by a couple other things atm
[21:06] <dtcrshr> on the acer one
[21:06] <smaudet> will look into everything you've been saying thanks :)
[21:11] <Braun> HELPPPPPPPPP
[21:12] <zykotick9> dtcrshr: unetbookin in windows, has issues... try a different method.  good luck.
[21:13] <dtcrshr> zykotick9: I did, kinda slower but for only installing is working
[21:13] <dtcrshr> where do i get smaller / alternatives?
[21:14] <Braun> HELPPPPPPPPP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[21:15] <m_tadeu_> hi...how can I bring up a network connection on the command line?
[21:16] <SchrodingersScat> !patience | braun
[21:16] <MonkeyDust> Braun  no caps please, just ask your question
[21:16] <ikonia> Braun: try actually asking a question if you want help
[21:17] <SchrodingersScat> I scrolled up and it was something about typing in arabic.
[21:19] <Sc0rp10n> hey guys
[21:19] <Braun> SchrodingersScat: ,MonkeyDust,ikonia,ubutto,i can't type in arabis
[21:19] <zykotick9> m_tadeu_: if you mean ethernet, check out /etc/network/interfaces.  if you mean wireless, you might want to try wicd-curses.
[21:19] <Braun> arabic*
[21:20] <MoALTz> ok got a basic sdl2 window running by installing: libx11-dev and libxext-dev, then rebuilding sdl2 (./configure, make, sudo make install). won't have opengl and other stuff but at least it didn't render desktop unusable (unlike that guide's instructions)
[21:20] <Sc0rp10n> I was trying to install Ubuntu desktop over Lubuntu. I installed ubuntu-desktop and restarted but I don't see the Ubuntu desktop. Can you help me plz?
[21:21] <m_tadeu_> zykotick9: I have a problem...my desktop doesnt start...I need to start my wifi in order to install missing packages
[21:21] <m_tadeu_> and I don't have wicd installed
[21:21] <zykotick9> MoALTz: fri, are you familiar with checkinstall?  if not, you should check it out.
[21:22] <MonkeyDust> Braun  did you install the approprioate language pack?
[21:22] <zykotick9> m_tadeu_: assuming you have wpasupplicant installed, you can setup wireless with /etc/network/interfaces as well.  best of luck.
[21:22] <Braun> MonkeyDust: yep
[21:23] <Sc0rp10n> can anyone help me?
[21:23] <Sc0rp10n> I was trying to install Ubuntu desktop over Lubuntu. I installed ubuntu-desktop and restarted but I don't see the Ubuntu desktop.
[21:23] <MonkeyDust> Braun  in what application can you not write arabic? what happens when you try?
[21:24] <OerHeks> Sc0rp10n, logout( not shutdown) , change desktop and login again
[21:24] <Braun> in all applications,the input method keeps the same:eng.
[21:24] <kostkon> Sc0rp10n, in the login screen click on the gear icon to select a desktop session
[21:24] <tasslehoff> to mount my hfs+ partition with write permission I still have to disable journalling, right?
[21:25] <Braun> MonkeyDust: in all applications,the input method keeps the same:eng.
[21:25] <Sc0rp10n> ah ok I'll try that thanks
[21:26] <mrrcp> eeek windows 95
[21:30] <linuxnewbie> hello, how can i  automatically  set "always on visible workspace" option to pidgin window ? ...i have tried using devilspie but i can't get it to work ...i'm using unity for the moment if it's important
[21:30] <MonkeyDust> Braun  system settings > language support ... is arabic in the list?
[21:36] <Braun> MonkeyDust:  yea,it is
[21:36] <greenut> hey guys can u tell me why ubuntu overheats on my mac? what i can do to solve this problem?
[21:37] <greenut> while OS X runs fine.
[21:37] <greenut> It must be drivers that need be installed?
[21:37] <OerHeks> greenut, check the mactel pages and add the ppa, for fanspeedcontrol https://launchpad.net/~mactel-support/+archive/ppa
[21:37] <mrrcp> greenut: which mac
[21:37] <OerHeks> !mac
[21:37] <greenut> sorry, its macbook pro 8,3
[21:38] <lattera> alright, so kde4 doesn't mind having the third monitor... but it thinks that the first two, which are configured for TwinView are acting as just a single monitor
[21:38] <lattera> so if I maximize an application, it takes up both monitors
[21:38] <greenut> Hmmm ok, OerHeks and ubottu.
[21:38] <lattera> I guess the fix for this would be to have all three monitors be their own X screens
[21:39] <greenut> awesome… i think it will fix my problem. thanks for the links.
[21:40] <MonkeyDust> Braun  and are the arabic fonts installed?
[21:40] <zykotick9> ikonia: imagine... nvidia-proprietary is causing issue with a 3 monitor setup ;)
[21:40] <OerHeks> greenut have fun
[21:41] <greenut> OeHes: They're untrusted PPA by adding ppa:mactel-support/ppa….  Mind if I ask if its safe?
[21:42] <Braun> MonkeyDust: where can i check it out?
[21:42] <greenut> OerHeks: They're untrusted PPA by adding ppa:mactel-support/ppa….  Mind if I ask if its safe?
[21:42] <OerHeks> greenut sure, it is mentioned in the comunity pages, not just some user solution
[21:43] <greenut> Okay.
[21:43] <MonkeyDust> Braun  open gedit > edit > preferences
[21:44] <ikonia> zykotick9: more so with two cards
[21:44] <rhagu1> hi, I installed ubuntu once via ubuntu-12.04.3-mini-amd64.iso and another time via ubuntu-12.04.3-server-amd64.iso the first time it installs 3.2 the second time 3.8 kernel, how can this be? both are supposed to be 12.04.3?
[21:44] <zykotick9> ikonia: true
[21:46] <lattera> alright, kde4 supports three X sessions very very nicely
[21:46] <lattera> my triple-monitor setup is 100% complete :)
[21:46] <kostkon> rhagu1, maybe the mini iso doesn't follow the lts policy for this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack
[21:46] <ruena> my newly 13.04 is not shutiing down, get /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket file: No such file or directory
[21:47] <Braun> font is set to monoscape .the sys.fixed width font is ticked
[21:47] <lattera> ah, but it looks like I don't have compositing :(
[21:47] <rhagu1> kostkon are there still security updates for 3.2?
[21:48] <kostkon> rhagu1, obviously. all these kernels are supported don't worry
[21:48] <bwayne> quit
[21:48] <Fyodorovna> raghu1, who knows, why does it matter, things happen.
[21:48] <rhagu1> ok, then I wont bother
[21:48] <Braun> MonkeyDust: font is set to monoscape .the sys.fixed width font is ticked
[21:49] <cleerline> Anyone in here get saints row 4 to run under wine?
[21:49] <zykotick9> cleerline: try #winehq for wine questions
[21:49] <kostkon> rhagu1, stay with 3.2 if don't care. otherwise follow the instructions on the wiki page to install the 3.8 raring kernel
[21:49] <rhagu1> kostkon ok, I will
[21:52] <ruena> how do I log upstart activity on shutdown?
[21:52] <MonkeyDust> Braun  un-check that and click on monoscape, is arabic in the list
[21:52] <MonkeyDust> ?
[21:53] <speedracr> when i ctrl+alt+{f1,f2,f3,etc} i don't get the text console in 12.04 LTS
[21:53] <gert-jan> good evening.. (for european)
[21:53] <zykotick9> speedracr: have you install out of repo binary graphics drivers?
[21:54] <gert-jan> quick question? How can i find out what version of ubuntu this machine has?
[21:54] <speedracr> zykotick9: yeah, proprietary drivers, only way i could get good resolution
[21:54] <MonkeyDust> gert-jan  lsb_release -sd
[21:54] <zykotick9> gert-jan: "lsb_release -a"
[21:54] <zykotick9> speedracr: good luck then.  i consider your install broken.  don't reply to me, i won't see it.
[21:54] <kostkon> gert-jan, or system settings -> details
[21:55] <MonkeyDust> gert-jan  or cat /etc/issue :-)
[21:55] <speedracr> no wonder so many people install ubuntu then promptly remove it
[21:55] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: /etc/issue can be modified, lsb_release is way better.
[21:55] <Braun> MonkeyDust: it's unchangable,no other option can b activated and i can't c the other options in the list
[21:56] <gert-jan> MonkeyDust, zykotick9, kostkon, thanks.. i'll try this..
[21:57] <gert-jan> yep.. like I thought.. 13.04..
[21:58] <gert-jan> So in october the new version will ship.. Is this a LTS? and what version will it be?
[21:58] <bekks> gert-jan: 13.10 wont be a LTS, the next LTS will be 14.04
[21:58] <zykotick9> gert-jan: 13.10, no it isn't lts.
[21:59] <zykotick9> gert-jan: ubuntu version numbers are dates.  13 is year, next the month.  4=april 10=oct twice a year.  every 2 years is LTS on the 04.
[21:59] <raj> do you guys use 7zip? or is there another preferred software for this?
[21:59] <gert-jan> so.. bekks, zykotick9 , would you recommend an absolute beginner to upgrade to 13.10.. or would you recommend to wait for the LTS?
[22:00] <MonkeyDust> Braun  odd... open libreoffice writer, is arabic in the drop down menu?
[22:00] <bprompt> raj:   preferred for?
[22:00] <raj> extracting compressed files
[22:00] <MonkeyDust> gert-jan  13.10 isn't ready yet
[22:00] <gert-jan> zykotick9, Whahah... its kinda obvious now i know.. but i never realised that... whahahaha
[22:00] <raj> on windows, I feel like 7zip is the vlc of compressed files
[22:01] <zykotick9> gert-jan: personally, if you want to use ubuntu, i'd recommend you backup your files and fresh install every release, and always use the latest (but NOT development version of ubuntu).  but, i don't use ubuntu anymore.
[22:01] <bekks> gert-jan: I's suggest staying at 12.04, and _possibly_ upgrade to 14.04.
[22:02] <zykotick9> bekks: lts->lts update are ... ummmm... i don't have a nice word.
[22:02] <kostkon> raj, just install the p7zip package and then use the default archive manager which is just a gui frontend to various compression utlitilies.
[22:02] <bprompt> raj:   hmm well.... there are many compression formats, 7zip covers most, with the exception of a few like .rar and .ace maybe or .arj   other than that, 7zip works fine, then I also have rar/unrar installed too
[22:02] <bekks> zykotick9: Yeah :)
[22:02] <raj> oh, 7zip on windows handles rar I think
[22:03] <Braun> MonkeyDust: MonkeyDust ,yes it is
[22:03] <gert-jan> zykotick9, What do you use then.. (if i may ask)
[22:03] <zykotick9> gert-jan: doesn't matter.  use what YOU want!
[22:03] <kostkon> raj, then also install either the rar or the p7zip-rar package.
[22:03] <bprompt> raj:     can't recall, I have it on win64.... I think so... not as good as winrar though
[22:03] <MonkeyDust> Braun  ok, that's something, can you write arabic in Writer?
[22:04] <Braun> nope,MonkeyDust
[22:04] <MonkeyDust> Braun  can you not select arabic?
[22:05] <MonkeyDust> Braun  open translate.google.com, can you write arabaic there?
[22:06] <OerHeks> logout, change keyboard to Arabicand login ?
[22:06] <gert-jan> zykotick9, That's the thing.. I expect our schooldistrict to downgrade their funds.. I want to be ready when that happens.. And know EVERYTHING about linux by then.. (and offcourse.. show off to the girls)
[22:07] <Braun> MonkeyDust:  nope
[22:07] <zykotick9> gert-jan: <ot> oh man, that was funny </ot>
[22:08] <MonkeyDust> Braun  then i'm out of ideas, maybe someone else can help
[22:12]  * gert-jan checks if the same irc operators work like it was in the old days..
[22:12]  * gert-jan is pleased to know they are.
[22:12] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: i was personally happy i could paste the arabic output into urxvt correctly http://imagebin.org/271498
[22:13] <zykotick9> MonkeyDust: fyi, that should say "this is google translation of english to arabic"
[22:14] <zykotick9> anyone running gnome-termianal, try above, and tell me if it works ;)  please?
[22:16] <Braun> zykotick9: this is clever  except that it goes in the opposite direction
[22:16] <Guest71940> someone can help me to install the wireless driver on my laptop with ubuntu 12.04 on the console step by step ? with graphic options it sdont work....
[22:16] <OerHeks> Braun, maybe you should have started selecting arabic during install?
[22:17] <Braun> OerHeks:  i already have
[22:17] <UrielVigilant> someone can help me to install the wireless driver on my laptop with ubuntu 12.04 on the console step by step ? with graphic options it sdont work....
[22:17] <blurk> can some one recomend a good editor with syntax highligtning? I was recomended one some days ago but can not remember the name :(
[22:17] <jrib> blurk: gedit
[22:18] <wilee-nilee> UrielVigilant, Identify the wireless hardware and address the issue for help.
[22:18] <UrielVigilant> how  do i do that Wilee-nilee , iam newby on ubuntu i dont know commands nothing
[22:19] <wilee-nilee> UrielVigilant, Cool, run lspci in the terminal to find the wireless info, if it is a usb run lsusb.
[22:19] <wilee-nilee> and tell the channel not me
[22:19] <UrielVigilant> its ubuntu usb
[22:20] <UrielVigilant> ok
[22:20] <wilee-nilee> UrielVigilant, I mean the if the wireless is a usb device, is this a live enviroment or a actual install on a usb?
[22:21] <UrielVigilant> its ubuntu persitent on pen drive, and wireless is built in the laptop
[22:22] <wilee-nilee> UrielVigilant, Cool, that persistent has a limited use, so be aware of that run lspci to identify the wifi info.
[22:22] <UrielVigilant> wath it is lspci, how can i find terminal on ubuntu 12.04 ?
[22:23] <wilee-nilee> UrielVigilant, in unity top button brings up dash type terminal or ctrl-alt-t
[22:23] <urzg> hey wilee-nilee
[22:23] <UrielVigilant> ok its poen the terminal already
[22:23] <UrielVigilant> its open already.
[22:24] <UrielVigilant> now i write lspci doens it ?
[22:24] <wilee-nilee> UrielVigilant, type lspci and find the wireless info and post it.
[22:24] <UrielVigilant> ok
[22:25] <wilee-nilee> UrielVigilant, you can use tab to complete nicks here when you are talking to a person, makes things easier to follow.
[22:25] <bwayne> blurk: sublime is a good editor as well.
[22:26] <reisio> blurk: what editor are you used to?
[22:27] <root_> hello
[22:27] <blurk> reisio, bwayne I have no old preferences. I want a simple editor with auto-indent and that highlights php and other languages
[22:27] <root_> asd
[22:27] <UrielVigilant> 00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation NM10/ICH7 Family SMBus Controller (rev 02)
[22:27] <UrielVigilant> 05:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN (rev 01)
[22:27] <UrielVigilant> 06:01.0 Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4401-B0 100Base-TX (rev 02)
[22:27] <root_> testn
[22:27] <root_> test
[22:27] <root_> test
[22:27] <FloodBot1> root_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:27] <UrielVigilant> sorry
[22:27] <wilee-nilee> !broadcom | UrielVigilant start here.
[22:27] <bprompt> blurk:    for webdev?
[22:27] <bwayne> blurk: well gedit and sublime are both good. you already have gedit, so check it out. check the plugins pane. :)
[22:27] <blurk> bprompt, mostly
[22:28] <blurk> bwayne, but do it have auto-indent?
[22:28] <bprompt> blurk:    I use Quanta plus, which is really an IDE
[22:28] <blurk> gedit that is
[22:28] <wilee-nilee> UrielVigilant, Thats about the most I can do is offer that wiki, but use that broadcom info for getting help otherwise.
[22:29] <reisio> blurk: gedit probably does that, geany does
[22:29] <bprompt> hmmm, I prefer geany over gedit myself
[22:29] <UrielVigilant> i will try alone, any problem i will back here
[22:29] <UrielVigilant> thank you
[22:29] <wilee-nilee> UrielVigilant, cool, good luck. ;)
[22:29] <reisio> usually text editors made by people who make DEs turn out kind of... inferior :)
[22:29] <reisio> although IIRC kate is the most popular text editor after Vim and Emacs
[22:30] <bprompt> hehe
[22:30] <t4nk350> how to download forbidden files using wget in ubuntu?
[22:30] <reisio> but a little inappropriate for GNOME/Unity
[22:30] <reisio> t4nk350: forbidden?
[22:30] <bprompt> quanta plus uses Kate, which is also a terrific text editor
[22:30] <wilee-nilee> reisio, oooh, broad generalizations. ;)
[22:30] <tsquar3d> Yo. Does anyone know of a version of ubuntu (or any other linux distro) with signed efi that will run on a 32-bit intel atom processor?
[22:31] <t4nk350> i can download this file using Internet Download Manger (IDM) with wine  http://epaper.thehindu.com/pdf/2013/09/07/20130907A_008103.pdf
[22:31] <bwayne> blurk: i'm not seeing auto-indent out of the box. maybe i can find a plugin. sorry.
[22:32] <bekks> t4nk350: Why dont you just download it, without wine, etc.
[22:32] <reisio> tsquar3d: any?
[22:32] <blurk> bwayne, nevermind. I will try bluefish. thanks anyway
[22:33] <tsquar3d> reisio: UEFI?
[22:33] <reisio> uefi
[22:33] <bprompt> blurk:   http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/real_programmers.png    =)
[22:35] <tsquar3d> reisio: None of the 32-bit ubuntu buids I have found support UEFI. :-/
[22:35] <t4nk350> i tried to download the file with Firefox
[22:36] <blurk> bprompt, :)  I have tried emacs before. not my cup of tee
[22:36] <OerHeks> tsquar3d, no, only ubuntu 64 bit works with UEFI.
[22:36] <reisio> tsquar3d: they probably do, even if it's more work
[22:36] <troutwine> I'm trying to install 13.04 on a Macbook Pro Retina but when I boot from the optical install disk all I get is a blinking cursor. Anyone have any ideas?
[22:36] <reisio> tsquar3d: what's the processor?
[22:36] <troutwine> Google has failed to turn up anything super useful.
[22:36] <tsquar3d> reisio: Well, I have turned secure booting off and no dice.
[22:36] <tsquar3d> It's a 32-bit intel atom.
[22:36] <reisio> tsquar3d: what model?
[22:37] <tsquar3d> reisio: Not sure... the computer is an HP Envy x2
[22:37] <OerHeks> troutwine, did you check the mactel pages?
[22:37] <OerHeks> !mac
[22:37] <troutwine> OerHeks: I have, but the problem is only discussed _after_ installation.
[22:38] <reisio> tsquar3d: that the full model? check the bottom
[22:38] <OerHeks> troutwine, with nomodeset in the grub line?
[22:39] <troutwine> I don't get far enough to have grub. At least, not that I can tell.
[22:39] <bwayne> blurk: cool. never had heard of it. it looks pretty nice. happy hunting!
[22:39] <troutwine> OerHeks: Boot goes from Bootcamp switcher thing to a momentary black screen then straight to infinite blinking cursor.
[22:40] <tsquar3d> reisio: Well, the chip is a Z2760
[22:40] <mrrcp> rm -rf
[22:41] <reisio> tsquar3d: mmm
[22:41] <mrrcp> ceed^: what atx
[22:42] <tsquar3d> reisio: Yeah, I was trying to use the ubuntu 64-bit versions -- but then realized that it needs something with ia32
[22:43] <reisio> tsquar3d: I'm pretty sure you can use that shim, for example, with any distro
[22:43] <tsquar3d> reisio: Okay... never used shim... have heard of it... but never used it.
[22:44] <bwayne> troutwine: I used to use rEFIt when I wanted to multibook on a Mac. It might help you out. http://refit.sourceforge.net/
[22:44] <troutwine> bwayne: I don't have OSX on this machine to install rEFIt.
[22:44] <bwayne> troutwine: ah. ok. sorry.
[22:44] <troutwine> No worries. I recognize that's unusual.
[22:47] <troutwine> Interestingly, Debian installation boots okay but it completely fails to install EFI boot manager properly.
[22:47] <troutwine> Arch Linux sorta works, or, at least, it did a few days ago but not efibootmgr segfaults after a version update. :/
[22:47] <troutwine> s/not/now/
[22:50] <OerHeks> troutwine, one way to work around no OSX on the machine, is installing osx on an external hdd and use rEFIt that way
[22:51] <troutwine> I don't have an OSX installation disk anywhere. :)
[22:51] <troutwine> I have no option for OSX use, in short.
[22:51] <fizzle> how 2 ubunto installation ???
[22:51] <mrrcp> !install
[22:52] <fizzle> i like the obuntu
[22:52] <Ari-Yang> lol ^
[22:53] <tsquar3d> WIndows 8 is the worst thing since 9/11.
[22:53] <mrrcp> wow
[22:53] <mrrcp> really
[22:53] <wilee-nilee> !ot | tsquar3d
[22:53] <delinquentme> how to configure a python script to always run on startup?
[22:54] <njsg> where?
[22:54] <mrrcp> !guidelines
[22:55] <tsquar3d> Sigh.
[22:55] <mrrcp> tsquar3d: why is that
[22:55] <mrrcp> you having issues
[22:55] <troutwine> Oh hey, 13.10 install CD boots correctly.
[22:55] <troutwine> That's promising.
[22:55] <wilee-nilee> troutwine, 13.10 is on #ubuntu+1
[22:56] <tsquar3d> Sorry... *sarcasm* UEFI is just swell... I'm so happy about it. */sarcasm*
[22:56] <jrib> !startup | delinquentme
[22:56] <mrrcp> tsquar3d: ahh yes
[22:56] <OerHeks> delinquentme, type start in dash, add it to startup applications
[22:56] <mrrcp> tsquar3d: i hate it
[22:56] <troutwine> wilee-nilee: Thanks.
[22:56] <seed_> hi
[22:56] <mrrcp> it took me a good hour to figure it out
[22:57] <tsquar3d> Well, mrrcp, I have been fighting with it for days now -- ia32 with UEFI...
[22:57] <mrrcp> whats your issue again?
[22:58] <kingplusplus> hi guys, am wondering how do i stop my system from consuming bandwidth when am idle? Example, i may sleep off while chatting here but my system would consume bandwidth as the chat continues on the screen
[22:58] <tsquar3d> mrrcp: Well, I need a signed UEFI distro for ia32.
[22:58] <tsquar3d> A bit hard to find.
[22:58] <tsquar3d> But I am going to try ubuntu 32-bit with reFIND and see what I can do.
[22:58] <tsquar3d> tsquar3d: !OT
[22:58] <troutwine> kingplusplus: Suspend the computer?
[22:58] <mrrcp> what device are you attempting to install it on?
[22:59] <kingplusplus> troutwine, yes something like that
[22:59] <delinquentme> it looks like I want /etc/rc.local
[22:59] <tsquar3d> mrrcp: hp envy x2
[22:59] <mrrcp> ah
[22:59] <delinquentme> jrib, OerHeks  ^^
[23:01] <mrrcp> tsquar3d: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2136763
[23:01] <mrrcp> have u read that?
[23:02] <bwayne> kingplusplus: there's the option of using System Settings > Power > Suspend and setting it to 15 minutes or so.
[23:03] <kingplusplus> bwayne, thanks
[23:03] <kingplusplus> bwayne, wasn't sure if it would do it, would watch and see
[23:04] <bwayne> kingplusplus: works for me (TM)  :)
[23:05] <NINJA> CIAO
[23:06] <NINJA> !LISTA
[23:06] <dtcrshr> tigran https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valve
[23:06] <rhagu1> I am about to partition a virtual block device, which is 2TB in size but might get larger over time, I would like to format it with ext4. Should I use a gpt partition due to the size?
[23:08] <bekks> rhagu1: yes.
[23:08] <sarahS> What's the easiest way to create a fully bootable backup of my main ubuntu HD?
[23:08] <sarahS> Is there something similar to Carbon Copy Cloner available?
[23:09] <rhagu1> bekks can a block device with gpt partition table later be increased in size?
[23:09] <bekks> rhagu1: sure.
[23:09] <rhagu1> bekks great, thanks
[23:11] <wilee-nilee> sarahS, clonezilla is a nice imager
[23:11] <wilee-nilee> saves in packets though for reinstall
[23:11] <urzg> hi all
[23:11] <urzg> Anyone here use xchat?
[23:12] <wilee-nilee> urzg, many state the problem
[23:12] <sarahS> wilee-nilee: so, if you have a system failure, you would have to boot from a cd / dvd to restore?
[23:12] <mrrcp> anyone know of a way to install ubuntu on a windows surface rt
[23:12] <wilee-nilee> sarahS, with clonezilla yes
[23:12] <mrrcp> that would be a game changer
[23:12] <urzg> Is Xchat have good chat support?
[23:12] <urzg> erm
[23:12] <urzg> themes?
[23:12] <wilee-nilee> urzg, #xchat try thesr
[23:12] <OerHeks> mrrcp, that would be arm
[23:12] <wilee-nilee> thee*
[23:13] <mrrcp> yea
[23:13] <OerHeks> !arm
[23:13] <urzg> ok
[23:13] <wilee-nilee> urzg, There are a number of themes all this is available on the web we ask you at least try.
[23:13] <urzg> ah ok
[23:14] <urzg> :)
[23:14] <wilee-nilee> ;)
[23:15] <smaudet> ello?
[23:16] <Root1_> join #Trial_Serv1
[23:16] <smaudet> Hey, thanks to whomever suggested the backlight, I'm pretty sure there is a backlight bug, and that's been at least part of my problem.
[23:16] <OerHeks> mrrcp, i read the surface pro can handle ubuntu, the RT needs to yailbreak ?
[23:16] <wilee-nilee> smaudet, /join #Trial_Serv1
[23:17] <smaudet> mrrcp, I think it may have been you
[23:17] <smaudet> wilee-nilee, why?
[23:17] <wilee-nilee> Root1_, /join #Trial_Serv1
[23:17] <wilee-nilee> smaudet, wrong nick, sorry.
[23:17] <smaudet> k
[23:18] <NINJA> CIAO A TUTTI
[23:18] <NINJA> !LISTA
[23:19] <bekks> !it | NINJA
[23:19] <king-crimson> What about under-warez? XD
[23:20] <bekks> king-crimson: For some, they're too tight m(
[23:20] <king-crimson> tighty-whiteys? 8-0
[23:25] <blurk> is it stupid to create an ext4 fs on an usb-memory? it will be used as a simple backup for personal stuff,
[23:28] <chsados> goddamn iphone fanboys creating a line outside the store making people who want to buy real phones wait
[23:29] <cuddylier> Anyone know why this doesn't work? du -sm --max-depth=4 /home/minecraft/multicraft/servers | sort -nr | head -n 20
[23:29] <wilee-nilee> blurk, nah thatbis fine just needs read write is all.
[23:29] <wilee-nilee> that is*
[23:30] <cuddylier> du: warning: summarizing conflicts with --max-depth=4
[23:30] <cuddylier> It just says that
[23:31] <blurk> wilee-nilee, thanks. forgot about changing owner,
[23:34] <wilee-nilee> chsados, don't swear, and stay on an actual ubuntu topic
[23:36] <smaudet> yay ubuntu 13.04 on efi *slow clap*
[23:36] <smaudet> now to figure out this mess called uefi/windows boot
[23:37] <wilee-nilee> smaudet, That the 32 bit?
[23:37] <smaudet> 64 bit
[23:37] <smaudet> wilee-nilee, why?
[23:38] <wilee-nilee> smaudet, I saw a person with a 32  bit earlier thought it was you.
[23:38] <smaudet> no, don't think so
[23:38] <wilee-nilee> I wondered if it was possible is all
[23:38] <smaudet> wilee-nilee, is efi 64 bit exclusive?
[23:39] <wilee-nilee> smaudet, I thought so, not sure is all.
[23:39] <wilee-nilee> with a W8 dual
[23:40] <wilee-nilee> good job getting it installed though smaudet
[23:40] <smaudet> I don't really want the w8, the goal was to get something non-windows 8 to boot (check), preferrably on efi (check), its bonus points if I can get it to play nice/figure out the windows 8 part
[23:41] <smaudet> I have secure boot on, but in 'setup mode', whatever that means, also wanted to explore that while I'm dinking around the bios
[23:41] <smaudet> wilee-nilee, thanks, not really much of a feat in the end :P
[23:43] <smaudet> The real effort is thanks to the kernel/efi hackers. :) Although that no-backlight bug is a real gotcha. X_X
[23:44] <smaudet> Cannot believe that turned out to be the problem, went through 4 different installs, and the 'graphics' never worked.
[23:44] <smaudet> Oh well.
[23:44] <eein> is mono defunct?
[23:44] <smaudet> eein, not on windows
[23:44] <smaudet> eein, I think it is on linux though
[23:44] <eein> no on ubuntu/mint
[23:44] <eein> bah
[23:45] <smaudet> eein, they chased him off of linux, or so I hear
[23:45] <smaudet> (the mono developer)
[23:45] <eein> i grabbed mono-complete but it does nothing
[23:45] <tsquar3d> So, I am still having a heck of a time -- I can't find any way to get ubuntu working on ia32 with uefi
[23:45] <eein> and the website is a 403
[23:45] <smaudet> wilee-nilee, there's your 32 bit-er
[23:45] <tsquar3d> smaudet: :-p
[23:45] <wilee-nilee> hehe yeah
[23:45] <smaudet> tsquar3d, I doubt I can help, but what are the symptoms
[23:46] <smaudet> ?
[23:46] <rhagu1> hi I created a gpt partition on a block device and formated it with ext4 but there is a lot of already used space (df -h) although I didnt copy any files onto it: "/dev/vdb1       2,0T    199M  1,9T    1% /me"  what is going wrong?
[23:46] <smaudet> eein, is it?
[23:46] <eein> http://www.go-mono.com/moonlight
[23:46] <smaudet> eein, working for me
[23:46] <smaudet> oh
[23:47] <eein> love how the MS site says Linux...check
[23:47] <smaudet> eein, redirects to the other site
[23:47] <smaudet> eein, www.mono-project.com
[23:47] <tsquar3d> Ha. None what so ever. I have an ia32 system that came with windows 8. As far as I know I need an ubuntu build that runs on ia32 with efi support.
[23:47] <tsquar3d> smaudet:
[23:47] <tsquar3d> It makes me sad.
[23:47] <DJones> eein: Found this http://www.infoq.com/news/2012/05/Miguel-Moonlight "Miguel: We have abandoned Moonlight." about half way down the page
[23:48] <smaudet> DJones, sounds about right
[23:48] <wilee-nilee> tsquar3d, Have you checked if that is a 64 bit computer per-chance my toshiba was though listed as 32 bit.
[23:48] <kostkon> eein, are you looking for moonlight?
[23:48] <tsquar3d> Yeah, it's certainly an ia32
[23:48] <eein> yeah i thought i heard something about it on /. but my online college course seems to need it, never installed it before
[23:48] <smaudet> eein, what do you need moonlight for? That's Silverlight stuff, yeah?
[23:48] <kostkon> eein, http://www.webupd8.org/2013/08/pipelight-use-silverlight-in-your-linux.html
[23:48] <smaudet> Silverlight is dead
[23:48] <wilee-nilee> eein, try user agent switcher in firefox
[23:48] <kostkon> eein, forget that moonlight ever existed
[23:49] <Arid> so I'm thoroughly annoyed at the moment lol. I've got tightvnc running on my 13.04 server and I connect, but I cannot left click inside any programs
[23:49] <smaudet> Except in Netflix, which ignored Microsoft's memo
[23:49] <tsquar3d> The 32 bit ubuntu distro does not come with efi -- so the computer will not even entertain the idea of booting it...
[23:49] <tsquar3d> And the 64-bit version, of course, will not run on an ia32
[23:49] <kostkon> smaudet, theyll change to html5 soon
[23:49] <Arid> I can left click anything attached to the desktop environment but anything I open like gedit cannot be left clicked in any way
[23:49] <eein> yeah need it for college, oh wel ill figure something else out i guess
[23:49] <kostkon> smaudet, when html5 is 100% ready for drm content that is
[23:50] <smaudet> eein, protest the class
[23:50] <smaudet> eein, they're teaching a dead-in-the-water tool
[23:50] <eein> haha its just the oreintation :-)
[23:50] <kostkon> eein, i just gave you a link
[23:50] <tsquar3d> eein: Where do you go to uni?
[23:50] <smaudet> eein, ask a classmate to take a video and put it up on youtube?
[23:50] <eein> esc.edu
[23:51] <eein> kostkon: looking
[23:51] <wilee-nilee> eein, I had one on line problem with the college I was at just the transfer of papers was it, those system are dated I think in general.
[23:52] <smaudet> kostkon, I'm not sure what 'ready' means, drm has always been broken...
[23:52] <tsquar3d> So... I am probably hosed when it comes to getting efi ubuntu working on ia32?
[23:52] <eein> kostkon: thanks for the ppas
[23:52] <kostkon> smaudet,  to playback drm content*
[23:52] <smaudet> kostkon, I'd have just gone ahead and transfered, and continue like drm always has, fixing bugs as they are found
[23:53] <smaudet> And never really fixing drm :P
[23:53] <wilee-nilee> tsquar3d, you could se if you can get a non uefi oem install from the manufacturer, then wipe the HD, make it msdos and you could dual boot.
[23:54] <Arid> anyone at all heard of an issue with being unable to left click while remote controlling ?
[23:55] <tsquar3d> wilee-nilee: I'd say fat chance of getting that out of HP, eh?
[23:55] <Arid> the interwebz seems to be clueless. I find absolutely no hits :/
[23:55] <wilee-nilee> tsquar3d, I bet they will, you wont know without asking.
[23:55] <wilee-nilee> its not free for a install set is all, cheap though
[23:56] <bekks> How can I hide a specific user from showing up in the list of users in lightdm?
[23:56] <tsquar3d> Hmmmmm......
[23:56] <kostkon> bekks, interesting question..
[23:56] <smaudet> tsquar3d, I was fiddling around with my efi settings and I managed to figure out how to get it to boot non-uefi disks
[23:57] <smaudet> tsquar3d, however that may be dependent on the bios
[23:57] <GogoPogo> hello
[23:57] <smaudet> tsquar3d, while you're asking HP for stuff, I'd badger them about getting an updated bios
[23:57] <wilee-nilee> bekks, I just google user questions 99% of the time. http://askubuntu.com/questions/92349/how-do-i-hide-a-particular-user-from-the-lightdm-login-screen
[23:57] <tsquar3d> Yeah, smaudet, the bios this computer ships with is pretty restrictive.
[23:58] <smaudet> tsquar3d, barring that perhaps we need bios hackers now ;)
[23:58] <kostkon> bekks, want to hide the guest acc maybe? just wondering
[23:58] <GogoPogo> is there a better chan for off-topic chatting?
[23:58] <tsquar3d> Grumble grumble...
[23:58] <wilee-nilee> GogoPogo, #ubuntu-offtopic
[23:58] <smaudet> tsquar3d, who write custom bioses for backwards computer shops
[23:59] <tsquar3d> Yeah... it really sucks.... the bios lets me turn off secure boot -- but that really doesn't do jack squat.
[23:59] <bekks> kostkon: No. I have a user owning all remote backups, and it is not intended to be used regularly.
[23:59] <smaudet> And it apparently is a thing! http://www.bios-mods.com/
[23:59] <wilee-nilee> tsquar3d, We have seen people here lately wiping W8 and the HD and going msdos with no problems.
[23:59] <kostkon> bekks, oh
[23:59] <smaudet> tsquar3d, I have no idea but maybe you could look into that if HP isn't gonna be cool.
[23:59] <bekks> Found the solution:  /etc/lightdm/users.conf  -> [UserAccounts] -> hidden-users=
[23:59] <wilee-nilee> tsquar3d, with the bios set as legacy