[00:03] Ever since I applied the latest updates to my 12.04 LTS install, transparancy doesn't work anymore ... any ideas? I'm using the "Glassified" theme. [00:10] fresh install 13.04 kde 4.11.. updated installed fglrx and can't get desktop effects working!! === mike_ is now known as Guest14248 [00:38] Hello. [00:42] Okay, I'm having an odd issue trying to install Kubuntu 13.04 on my laptop. The display refuses to show when running through Live USB. I get output when loading the kernel which seems to just be dmesg information and then the Kubuntu logo flashing. Past that? Black screen. I know something is running because my wireless card's indicator ticks on. [00:44] The USB was set up using LinuxLive USB Creator. [00:53] anybody know anything about chevy's? [00:56] Anybody have any clue what my issue could be? I'm about to try 12.04 and just do a distro upgrade. [01:16] hi, i got a noob question, where is the right path to install a game system width, and the game data? === dziegler_off is now known as dziegler === dziegler is now known as dziegler_off === dziegler_off is now known as dziegler === julian is now known as Guest67241 === dziegler is now known as dziegler_off [06:10] jfef [06:10] \help === mistraven is now known as mistyone [06:58] http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/daily-live/current/ How stable is 13.10 so far? [07:02] Kristall: try #ubuntu+1 [08:02] Good morning. [08:11] does anyone know what power backend will kubuntu 13.10 use? [08:11] Reason i ask is that the pm-utils which 13.04 uses is antiquated [08:12] doesn't accept patches, doesn't support in-kernel suspend/hibernate [08:42] rohan: you could try asking in #ubuntu+1 [08:50] someone know how to remove the little line under some letter in kde? [09:13] rohan: systemd-logind replaces pm-utils === spawn[dead] is now known as spawn57 === spawn57 is now known as spawn[dead] === spawn[dead] is now known as spawn57 === spawn57 is now known as spawn[dead] === spawn[dead] is now known as spawn57 === spawn57 is now known as spawn[dead] === dziegler_off is now known as dziegler === dziegler is now known as dziegler_off [12:21] hi [12:21] does anyone have experience with multipathing? [12:21] 'Morning folks [12:22] morning ;) [12:25] hi there [12:25] I have a problem with sound on Kubuntu 13.10 Beta and Dell Vostro 3350 [12:25] hi rysiek|pl. rockprincess [12:25] and can't seem to fix it [12:26] I googled, I duckduckgo'd, to no avail [12:26] rysiek|pl, laptop? [12:26] I deleted all pulseaudio related configuration files, still nothing [12:26] BluesKaj_: Dell Vostro 3350 [12:26] yup, a laptop [12:26] Phonon correctly identifies that headphones are being connected [12:27] but there's no sound [12:27] KMix shows full volume [12:27] rysiek|pl, run aplay -l and pastebin th eoutput [12:29] okay, I am officially a dumbass [12:29] the headphones were damaged, just tested on another device [12:29] -_-' [12:30] BluesKaj_: sorry to bother, I am now going to hide under a rock somewhere [12:30] rysiek|pl, run aplay -l in the terminal [12:30] BluesKaj_: it works. the headphones were broken. just tested on different headphones, everything works [12:31] rysiek|pl, some advice , buy some decent headphones [12:31] well-deserved, I give you that [12:33] so, how is everything in the Kubuntu world? been out on Chakra, Sidux and Aptosid for a year or so and now getting back to good ole Kubuntu [12:35] seems fine , fewer muckups and non boot issues with 13.10 and kde 4.11 ,compared to 12.10 and 13,04 [12:36] 13.10 has it's own support chat at #ubuntu+1 , btw [12:36] anyone know anything about multipathing on linux? [12:36] BluesKaj_: yeah, figured, but thought it might be more of a K issue [12:37] rysiek|pl, usually audo probs these days are with the intel-hda driver kernel module not loading at startup [12:38] err audio [12:38] rockprincess,multipathing? [12:38] yeah, figures [12:39] BluesKay_ yes http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_DM_Multipath [12:39] like this [12:40] rysiek|pl, sudo mopdprobe snd-hda-intel , usually solves 50% of the audio issues :) [12:41] BluesKaj_: :) [12:42] BluesKaj_: I just spent 20h migrating my 140k (no, not a typo) e-mails between different KMail2 versions. I was a bit frustrated with it all, hence my audio-jack-snafu ;) [12:43] rockprincess, this channel is for Kubuntu specific support not Linux server questions in general . [12:43] rockprincess: this seems more of a server-side thing; Kubuntu is rather geared towards desktops/laptops/end user devices [12:43] BluesKaj_: ah, beat me to it! [12:44] rockprincess: I'd suggest #debian, for example [12:44] yeah thought so.... [12:44] thanks anyway... [12:44] cheerio [12:44] cu in #debian ;) [12:44] also I seem to have a major problem with the recent version of kmail2 too [12:44] rockprincess: KMail2 is a major problem, in and of itself [12:44] somehow i can't read emails anymore...they're downloaded but i can't display them :( [12:45] rysieklpl: hmm, kmail2 seemed to work fine for me, before I upgraded to kde 4.11.1 :( [12:45] fucking backports....lol [12:46] rockprincess: I'd suggest: 1. backing everything up; 2. deleting all KMail/Akonadi/Kontact-related config files and directories; 3. adding all accounts you can as IMAP; 4. restoring POP account e-mails from backups by importing them with the import wizard in KMail [12:47] this is exactluy what I have been doing for the better part of yesterday and this night; and it does seem to fix a number of problems, including serious speed hurdles [12:47] however, now my GPG/PGP signing does not work, yay. [12:47] yeah , I gave up on Kmail , fortunately my setup doesn't depend on a database email server ,. thunderbird works for home users like me. [12:48] rysieklpl: WOW, sounds like a major pain in the ass :( to start with, I wouldn't know how to back everything up, since emails are no longer stored in .kde/share/apps/kmail2 it seems?! [12:48] BluesKaj_ yeah, I have thought about migrating to thunderbird as well.....but I haven't found a way how to EXPORT mails from kmail2 and IMPORT them in thunderbird... [12:50] rockprincess: do you have any POP3 accounts, or are you using IMAP exclusively? [12:50] rockprincess: if only IMAP, you're home. if POP3, well, the e-mails are indeed being kept somewhere on the disk, usually in ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail2 or something (look for .dotfiles) [12:51] rockprincess: or do a find .kde/ -iname 'cur', this will find you any Maildirs === io is now known as Guest1454 [13:27] gnome user here - for testing purposes: how do I install new icons in kde? following this guide... KDE control panel > application appearance > icons... and then? where is it? [13:27] http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Buuf+for+KDE+%28KDE+3%29?content=56726 [13:32] MonkeyDust, look for "Get New Themes" , it's the installer [13:34] okay, I am starting to get really frustrated with KMail and GPG [13:35] each time I try to sign a message I get "Bad password" message, twice; not once am I asked about the password [13:35] ffs [13:35] BluesKaj_ ok, it's there, tnx, but just want to know how to do it manually [13:35] rysiek|pl, maybe the people at #kde can help [13:36] humm [13:36] will try [13:36] on a fresh install of Kubuntu, I'm making a separate /home partition. How much space should I reserve for kubuntu itself? [13:36] MonkeyDust, choose the "install theme file" option and navigate to the themes you've downloaded [13:38] ScottyK, between 12-15G is plenty if you autoremove and autoclean periodically [13:39] BluesKaj - Thanks! [13:39] ScottyK, np :) === BluesKaj_ is now known as BluesKaj === dziegler_off is now known as dziegler [13:44] #kde is silent [13:45] and there has to be a way to debug gpg-agent [13:45] I mean, ffs, I don't even know if KMail is actually trying to call it [13:48] Question - I have 14 packages that are broken and will not update. I've tried "sudo dpkg --configure -a" but that doesn't clear it out like it usually does. Next step? === dziegler is now known as dziegler_off [14:03] ScottyK, try , sudo apt-get -f install [14:07] @BluesKaj - Didn't work. Throws out same list of errors. [14:08] ScottyK, dependency errors ? [14:09] BluesKaj - yes, lots of them [14:09] looks like a bunch of "libqt4" errors [14:10] ScottyK, ok , make sure you don't have any old ppas hanging around [14:10] All 14 refer back to this , "libqt4-network:amd64 is not configured yet" [14:13] ScottyK, did you upgrade via the internet or do a clean install ? [14:14] Did a clean install months ago, everything was working fine. Had a power burp last night during the routine update, and that's when I noticed the dependency errors [14:15] ok ScottyK , do you have libqt4-network installed ? [14:17] checking... [14:18] yes, current version. [14:18] The error it throws out is too large to post here. Is there some sort of website one can post the error, and link back to it? Don't want to flood the channel. [14:19] !paste [14:19] For posting multi-line texts into the channel, please use http://paste.ubuntu.com | To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/?page=add | !pastebinit to paste directly from command line | Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic. [14:20] hello everyone i would like to report a bug but i dont know where : On Kubuntu 13.10 Beta 1, the master sound volume adjuster ("Built in audio (stereo analog)") doesn´ t work when used by clicking on the tray icon. However, everything is fine when I use the mixer by clicking on "Mixer". Where should I report ? [14:27] I've got pastebin installed. How do I dump the error messages that come up into a .txt file so it can be uploaded? [14:29] select all , or the lines you want to copy and drag them into the pastbinit icon in the panel , if you installed pastebinit [14:30] then it will gib=ve you a url to post in here [14:31] ok , it's called just pastebin now , but the method should be the same [14:33] Hi! How can I set "default apps" from the gnome apps to the kde apps? First I installed Ubuntu, then installed the kde packages. Now in mc or in Eclipse when I click to a pdf, it opens Evince, and not Okular. [14:33] pastebin icon? Not seeing that anywhere.. [14:35] tgary, install kubuntu-desktop, then you set defaults in "system settings>default applications [14:36] food time, back in a while... === ScottyK is now known as S === S is now known as ScottyK [14:40] BluesKaj: kubuntu-desktop is installed. Under "default applications" only 7 associations can be set. The "File Associations" is also ok, for pdf handling Okular is on the top. (Dolphin also opens Okular.) However as mc is not a kde application, is opens Evince by default. [14:41] tgary, not file associations , default apps is what you wnat to setup [14:41] BluesKaj: I think, if I would have started with Kubuntu (and not Ubuntu), mc would open Okular and not Evince by default. ? [14:42] BluesKaj: Under default apps only 7 apps can be set: email client, text editor, fileman, messenger, term emulator, browser and window manager. There is nothing about "pdf files". [14:43] tgary, with 2 desktops you have several duplicate apps that have differnt names but essentaily accomplish the same things , so the default apps have to be chosen in each desktop if you plan on continuing with 2 [14:45] BluesKaj: no, now I just use KDE. I often fire up Konsole, and start mc. But when I press enter to a pdf file, it continues to open Evince instead of Okular. How can I "switch the whole system" to a KDE based system? [14:45] i have a question: i have kubuntu 13.04 with plasma-netbook. How can i remove Find and run from task manager on panel? [14:45] !purekde | tgary [14:45] tgary: If you want to remove all !Gnome packages and have a default !Kubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purekde » [14:47] izanagi, find and run ? [14:48] i dont have english version, i mean desktop looks like normal program on panel [14:48] izanagi: I don't know what do you refer exactly, but plasmoids everywhere can be removed by first right click unlock widgets, the right click, remove this panel. [14:50] tgary: if you run application you can see it in the taskbar on the panel, icon + name [14:50] tgary: but desktop is there too [14:50] tgary: just like web browser or something === championswimmer_ is now known as championswimmer [14:57] izanagi, right click on the desktop icon and choose remove or close , or you also have the options in taskmanager settings === Bushycat is now known as Bushmaster [15:00] BluesKaj: there is no remove, close dont work, in setting there is nothing about it [15:01] izanagi, can you post a screenshot ? [15:02] where can i upload ss? [15:02] izanagi: a screenshot would help. But I think you want to remove an accidentally added "plasmoid" (or widget). Sometimes it is hard to find the right click, "remove this plasmoid" command. [15:05] izanagi: find something, like imagebin or such. [15:06] http://www19.speedyshare.com/JDMaC/download/zrzut-ekranu3.png [15:09] in the left top corner [15:09] znajdz i uruchom, which stands for find and run [15:09] iz post your image in imagebin.org , no need for any downloading on our part to see the image' [15:09] izanagi,^ [15:09] or execute [15:10] yes, no need, link just look like that, but ok [15:11] BluesKaj: do not click to the download button, instead click the filename on the top. It will be opened in the browser. [15:12] it didn't open here [15:12] my adblock is probly on [15:12] http://imagebin.org/271557 [15:13] BluesKaj: I opened with noscript on.. : ) [15:15] tgary, that looks like the panel toolbox , it's part of the panel [15:17] on my desktop computer, on kubuntu on mint i dont have that program icon [15:17] mint isb't kubuntu [15:17] isn't [15:17] mint kde [15:17] but on netbook i can turn off this icon [15:17] cant* [15:17] right , and it's not kubuntu [15:18] when i add taskmanager only with icons, there is still plasma icon [15:18] izanagi, what happens when you just click on it ? [15:19] BluesKaj: shows the desktop [15:20] i dont understand [15:20] never seen that action without the desktop icon , which is removeable [15:21] izanagi: And whats in the right click menu, when you click the program left to Kadu? (The Znajdz...) [15:22] tgary: same as for other programs: min, max, close etc [15:22] izanagi: And if you press close? : )ű [15:23] tgary: nothing happens [15:23] then you may have the netbook setting enabled in systemsettings >workspace behaviour>workspace [15:24] BluesKaj: well, this is a netbook [15:25] heh , now he tells us :) [15:25] BluesKaj: turn this off? [15:26] dunno , I don't have a netbook , so I can't advise you [15:26] BluesKaj: [15:27] BluesKaj: if you search this program, it seems that it is a netbook-specific thing: BluesKaj: [15:27] BluesKaj: http://www.dobreprogramy.pl/lucas__/Tajniki-KDE-Pulpit,29429.html [15:27] tgary, exactly [15:28] my poiint is i wouldn't have bothered sinc e i don't know anything about netbopok settings , trg [15:28] tgary,^ [15:30] when i change to desktop computer, thing is off, but panel is too big [15:31] oh, i can resize it. [15:31] izanagi: I also didn't see this interface before.. But I think, in the desktop view you can see this yellow thing at the right. On your screenshot it wasn't there, but you saw this as an app. [15:32] true [15:33] maybe i will stick to that, looks better [15:33] i will test it if all windows are not too big etc [15:33] no yelloe cashew to open the panel toolbox on netbooks I guess [15:34] I'm trying to send the output of a command into pastebin, but I get the following error "you are trying to send an empty document, exiting". the command I'm entering is sudo dpkg --configure -a | pastebinit [15:34] izanagi: in normal systems (see page that I linked before) this yellow thing is always there, and can not be removed. [15:35] tgary: this yellow thing is better than whole rectangle [15:35] izanagi: worst case you can log off from kde, login to a shell, mv ~/.kde ~/.kde.old, and relogin. This case you start with a new kde profile, losing the old settings (that are probably messed up somehow). [15:35] ScottyK, there may be no output from the dpkg command [15:36] Ok. How do I copy of the output of the error that dpkg generates into something you all can see? [15:36] tgary: BluesKaj: thanks for help [15:37] ScottyK, if there is error output you maby cannot pipe it. ;) Just copy and paste. ;) [15:38] Graf - ok. From the command line, what would I type to copy that into a .txt so then it can be uploaded to pastebin? It's too large to post here [15:38] copy it to pastebin.org , ScottyK , it might be the quickest method [15:39] ScottyK, is it only command line? No KDE? [15:39] it works! Earlier pastebin.org wasn't working for me, now it came up. Excellent! [15:39] ScottyK, you can copy in a terminal inside KDE as usual. [15:40] I do not know how to pipe error output, but there is a way. Error output is different from normal output. [15:41] ubottu: thanks the tip. It removed my half system, then reinstalled a ton of packages. We will see, if it works or not. Thanks the help! [15:41] tgary: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [15:41] OK, got it. here's what I get when I try to update packages. This happened last night during a routing upgrade, and we had a power burp. http://pastebin.com/srqwGhGV [15:42] ScottyK, it says you need an USV. [15:43] Grag - USV? [15:43] WTF? "We have temporarily blocked you from accessing our website because we have detected that you are browsing the site a little fast. The block usually lasts about 1 hour. Next time, please go easy on us." [15:43] Are they crazy? [15:44] ScottyK, you oviously tried reinstalling libqt4-network , correct? [15:44] BluesKaj - yes, it said I had the most current version [15:45] ScottyK, best to purge it and reinstall [15:45] ScottyK, sorry, UPS: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uninterruptible_power_supply [15:45] the command would be "sudo apt-get remove libqt4-netowrk", correct? [15:46] Graf- LOL [15:46] purge instead of remove [15:46] ScottyK ;) [15:48] Just curious, what's the difference between purge and remove? [15:49] !purge [15:49] To purge all removed but not yet purged packages, use the following command: dpkg -l | awk '/^rc/{print $2}' | sudo xargs dpkg -P [15:50] remove still leaves the config files behind [15:50] ScottyK, , something we need to avoid here [15:51] purge in progress, 490 packages will be removed. yikes! [15:51] ScottyK, do you have backup of your files? ;) [15:51] what are you doing ScottyK? :D [15:51] !backup ScottyK [15:52] don't run that command from the bot , ScottyK , just sudo apt-get purge libqt4-network , then reinstallit [15:52] stupid factoid there, dangerous too [15:53] BluesKaj: one more thing, when i set up my wallpaper now, panel is transparent and i dont want it to be transparent [15:53] That's exactly what I typed, and now it's removeing 490 packages. I think I just hosed my system :( [15:54] may be not because it removes config fileof packages you've already removed [15:56] ScottyK, run , sudo apt-get update:sudo apt-getdist-upgrade , after it's finished [15:56] correction , sudo apt-get update:sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [15:57] BluesKaj - Roger that [15:58] sorry about that dangerous factoid command ScottyK , I never thought I'd see something like that from prompting the purge command === dmitrykorotkov is now known as Guest67351 [16:09] OK, down to one error, "libqt4-xml:amd64" package is in a very bad inconsistent state. When I try to remove it, it flashes the preceding error [16:11] remove won't work , use the purge command [16:14] purge still displays the same error [16:15] BluesKaj: hi [16:15] I actually don't have an issue today, just saying hello [16:18] ScottyK, you may have to drop to a TTY to get the purge to work , or try the recovery kernel first [16:18] BluesKaj - Roger that [16:43] gotta go , good luck ScottyK , hope it works out for you. [16:45] BluesKaj - Thanks! Gonna reboot in a while and try out that command [17:06] enabling openGL 3.1 in desktop effect will do any good? [17:32] yofel: awesome, thanks! === dziegler_off is now known as dziegler [17:48] /bye === dziegler is now known as dziegler_off [18:16] yofel: are you sure? the metapackage still depends on pm-utils, and there is no mention of systemd [18:16] yofel: http://packages.ubuntu.com/saucy/kubuntu-desktop [18:18] that should probably be dropped (not sure if it's needed somewhere else). kde 4.11 suspends either by directly using logind (there was an issue with that), or by using upower (which uses logind if it's there otherwise falls back to pm-utils) [18:18] that's the full situation === b is now known as Monsieur-B [18:26] hi all === goodtime_ is now known as goodtime [19:32] How do i get ati catalyst 13.8 or 13.10 ? [19:34] never mind edgers xorg added it in jokey [19:37] I need some help backing up my hard drive [19:38] Can you help me resolve my problem with symbolic links? [19:38] Please send me a link for posting screen shots [19:49] How do you post a screen shot? [19:54] !screenshot | Leon671 [19:54] Leon671: Screenshots can be made with the [PrtScr] button. Want to show us a screenshot of your problem? Upload an image to http://imagebin.org/?page=add and post a link to it. [19:54] thanks === dormito_ is now known as dormito [20:16] How do you ....Run Tools > Synchronize Files in Kubuntu 12.04? [20:24] yofel: thanks. so something else might pull in systemd-logind as a dependency? [20:25] rohan: udev, upower, network-manager and a few other things depend on systemd-services (which contains logind) [20:26] yofel: great, so pm-utils is there only as a fallback, right? [20:26] right [20:26] thanks for clarifying yofel, much appreciated [20:33] BluesKaj: I've reported that purge factoid to #ubuntu-ops [20:33] they will try to come up with something better [20:33] if you have a specific suggestion, please join and tell 'em [20:33] :-) === kubuntu is now known as Guest62337 === Guest62337 is now known as mrbaked [21:12] Blues, are you here? [21:12] I was trying to backup my hard drive when I ran into a problem [21:13] Can smn help me? [21:14] I tried to backup my root directory using K3B an image burner [21:15] BluesKaj, I tried to backup my root directory using K3B an image burner [21:16] But I ran into a problem with the symbolic links [21:17] Is there anyone in this room? [21:18] Is anyone here familiar with K3B, itś a CD Creator? [21:20] BluesKaj? [21:23] No one is familiar with K3B? Itś a program that creates CDs and DVDs for Kubuntu [21:26] lars_____: ask your real question, you know the one you actually need help with [21:29] kubuntu 13.04 not detecting monitors right.. if i set my hdmi to 1920x1080 it does the same with my laptop display.. and it's only 1366x768 === dziegler_off is now known as dziegler === dziegler is now known as dziegler_off [22:09] have you been using usb-modems on unity? [22:09] networl manager just crashes in 13.04! [22:10] I have to kill -9 -1 and then login back again! === goodtime_ is now known as goodtime [22:21] How do I make Mozilla Firefox my default browser instead of Rekonq? [22:24] open mozilla > go to options/preferences > general tab > click 'make mozilla my default browser' [22:27] thanks [22:28] I have a new hard drive, and want to install Kubuntu, but also mint. Kubutu will be my "primary" OS, with Mint to play around on. I want to be able to access docs, pics, music, etc from both distros. [22:29] Should I make a /home, then let both distros write to it? [22:32] Or I could let the Kubuntu partition have everything, then create sim links from Mint to the kubuntu stuff? [22:33] write Kubuntu on the HDD first > during installation let the grub write on /dev/sda [22:33] I cannot post any files anywhere on my desktop. How do I change or fix my desktop? [22:33] Iḿ using Kubuntu 12.04 [22:34] after installation of kubuntu, set some 30 GB out as say /dev/sda1 or sda2 or whatever [22:34] during installation of mint, write grub on /dev/sda1 or sda2 [22:35] both distributions will be able to detect each other's /home [22:35] they will see the partitions separately which you can mount by clicking them [22:36] cannot post? [22:44] maybe past [22:54] It works now [22:54] f10 helped me fix the View Folder [22:54] great! [22:55] Hey, can you give me the link for posting screenshots: imagebin? [22:59] I found it.... [22:59] http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add === Dave is now known as Guest81928 === dziegler_off is now known as dziegler === dziegler is now known as dziegler_off