[02:10] <Defy> INFO:phablet-flash:Device detected as A820t
[02:11] <Defy> Somebody help me
[02:20] <Defy> hello
[02:29] <imnichol> Sorry, this channel is pretty dead around 0GMT
[03:21] <tancredo> heya
[03:22] <tancredo> heya
[03:23] <tancredo> any1else is getting problems to import gcontacts to touch?
[04:14] <drachensun> this is weird /dev under android has things that aren't accessible from /dev under Linux
[04:14] <drachensun> is that expected?
[04:14] <drachensun> the EGL libraries are trying to call property_service and can't see it
[04:46] <stgraber> cwayne_: pong
[04:46] <stgraber> cwayne_: I'm only around for the next 5-10min, currently at Linux Plumbers 2013 and just got back from the closing party :)
[05:51] <AskUbuntu> Trying to flash Ubuntu touch onto my nexus 4 | http://askubuntu.com/q/348208
[07:42] <f1razer> what  proprietary software does ubuntu phone contain?
[07:43] <nhaines> None, although ports may contain binary blobs from their Android drivers.
[07:43] <f1razer> and how stable is the os?
[07:44] <nhaines> Unclear question.  The kernel is fantastically stable.  Userspace crashes recover quickly.
[08:26] <drachensun_> rsalveti: Or any one else who knows about lxc, I've got a problem I can't figure out, /dev/socket isn't being shared between the Android container and Ubuntu
[08:26] <drachensun_> I've got my device I'm porting and a Nexus 7
[08:26] <drachensun_> On the nexus 7, I can see how it works
[08:27] <drachensun_> Android binds /dev/socket to socket and socket was in the rootfs folder for lxc so Ubuntu can see it then bind it to its /dev/socket
[08:27] <drachensun_> ok
[08:28] <drachensun_> My script has the exact same entries as the nexus 7, to make this happen in init.rc
[08:28] <drachensun_> and pre-start.sh sets it up
[08:29] <drachensun_> but whenever android starts, nothing in /dev/socket shows in socket
[08:29] <drachensun_> if I manually umount and remount
[08:29] <drachensun_> it then shows in /socket
[08:29] <drachensun_> under android
[08:29] <drachensun_> but back in ubuntu /var/lib/lxc/android/rootfs/socket
[08:29] <drachensun_> its still not there
[08:30] <drachensun_> I'm really not sure what is different in my system but I really don't know how to debug this, why wouldn't things I add in Android be showing up there?
[08:57] <drachensun_> Ok, it seems I had the wrong initrd and the binary init contained was the source of the problem
[08:57] <drachensun_> so now I can see property_service
[08:57] <drachensun_> but none of my drivers loading anymore
[08:57] <drachensun_> I guess that is a problem I understand at least
[09:24] <crshbdnct> has there been a recent change to the ubuntu touch images?
[09:24] <crshbdnct> when I tried it a while ago, it was cdimage-system, and now its different, and one of the developers made a comment on reddit which piqued my interest
[11:21] <Varun> Hello
[11:22] <Varun> Anyone could help me with kernel modding for ubuntu touch?
[11:44] <Ganster41> Hi all. What's can be wrong, if ubuntu can't mount data partition. It says, /dev/block/mmcblk0p28 not found, but it present in Android with same kernel O_o
[11:50] <ogra_> ubuntu isnt android :)
[11:50] <ogra_> they use different services to maintain /dev, so they also use different names
[11:53] <Ganster41> And where I can find my EMMC partitions?
[11:53] <Ganster41> Now I have only FB console with boot log...
[12:34] <popey> ogra_: no plan to release today?
[12:34] <popey> ogra_: messaging indicator seems fixed
[12:36] <ogra_> popey, did you see the dashboard ?
[12:36] <ogra_> we drown in test errors
[12:36]  * popey clicks
[12:36] <ogra_> i'm just doing a build that should at least fix all the unity8 failures
[12:36]  * popey averts his eyes
[12:37] <ogra_> also download-manager is broken which kills all apps that use it
[12:37] <popey> erk
[12:37] <ogra_> (try to install a click package with the latest image)
[12:37]  * popey might flash back to previous day then
[12:37] <popey> going out with geeks tonight, no doubt they will all want to play with it
[12:37] <ogra_> they renamed the dbus service ... now all apps look for the old name of that service
[12:38] <popey> rather not hand them a broken device
[12:38] <ogra_> flash from the saucy channel then
[12:38] <ogra_> stable is stable :)
[12:38] <popey> wise
[12:41] <tinti> hi, is anyone working with  Nexus 7?
[12:42] <popey> tinti: wassup?
[12:43] <tinti> popey: hi, I am trying to replace the kernel to add a FTDI module. I did it ok but know the mouse cursor appears on my desktop and the touch does no works
[12:44] <tinti> Do you have any idea of which application is responsible for handling input events?
[12:44] <tinti> is it done by xinput?
[12:44] <popey> tinti: what you running on the nexus 7?
[12:44] <tinti> ubuntu touch
[12:44] <tinti> 13.04
[12:44] <tinti> should I move to saussy?
[12:44] <popey> saucy is under active development
[12:45] <popey> raring isn't
[12:45] <tinti> ok. If you dont mind can you tell me if you are using cm kernel or a patched one?
[12:46] <popey> Linux ubuntu-phablet 3.4.0-3-mako #20-Ubuntu SMP PREEMPT Fri Aug 16 19:00:48 UTC 2013 armv7l armv7l armv7l GNU/Linux
[12:46] <tinti> do you have also a wiki or a documentation telling how to build your own from scratch ubuntu-touch?
[12:46] <tinti> mako is nexus 4 ?
[12:46] <popey> yes
[12:46] <popey> same for nexus 7 though I believe
[12:47] <popey> see porting guide link in the /topic
[12:47] <tinti> nexus 7 is called grouper or tilapia
[12:47] <popey> yes
[12:47]  * tinti RTFM tinti
[12:48] <tinti> really nice work you have being doing :)
[12:52] <tinti> popey: oh, have you moved to an Android like layout?
[12:52] <popey> Dunno what that means
[12:53] <tinti> well on precise I had only two images
[12:53] <tinti> bootimg and img which was supposed to be install on "userdata"
[12:53] <popey> ah, yes, things have changed quite a bit since raring
[12:54] <tinti> know I am seeing "recovery ", "system". "bootimg"
[12:54] <popey> we initially created a "flipped" image which boots ubuntu and keeps android drivers / bits in an lxc container
[12:54] <popey> now we are using a read-only filesystem for the ubuntu part
[12:54] <tinti> which matches with android partition layout
[12:54] <popey> which makes it easier for us to do over the air updates as diffs
[12:54] <tinti> wow
[12:54] <tinti> for sure
[12:54] <popey> thats the "ubuntu-system" mentioned on the install page
[12:54] <popey> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install
[12:54] <tinti> that is amazing
[12:55] <popey> that's the one we're using mostly
[12:55] <popey> it's pretty neat
[12:55] <popey> you can flip a bit to make it read-write for hacking
[12:55] <tinti> are you planing to have ubuntu for desktop/notebook on this way too?
[12:55] <popey> very easily
[12:55] <popey> I don't know.
[12:55] <ogra_> popey, hmm, is that me or is chinstrap down ?
[12:55]  * ogra_ cant reach any services 
[12:55] <popey> ssh: connect to host chinstrap.canonical.com port 22: No route to host
[12:55] <ogra_> yeah
[12:55] <tinti> sounds a bit difficult, specially because many apps expect to have write access (IHMO)
[12:56] <ogra_> irc seems gone too
[12:56] <popey> tinti: not any more
[12:56] <popey> ogra_: so it has
[12:56] <ogra_> crap
[12:56] <popey> 13:56:15 < wgrant> No idea, but it's under investigation. Went down ~10 minutes ago.
[12:56] <ogra_> ah
[12:56] <ogra_> ok
[12:56] <popey> tinti: we use "click packages" which reside in /opt..
[12:56] <popey> tinti: and have restrictions on where they can write to.. app isolation
[12:57] <tshirtman> hi there, i have a nexus 7 2013, looked around to check if it was supported by the same ubuntu-touch image, but i didn't find confirmation, a few youtube video says "2013" in their name, but show a 2012 tablet, so i assume it's just here to say the guide is up to date
[12:57] <popey> tinti: lots and lots of benefits to click packages
[12:57] <popey> tshirtman: i dont think anyone has ported it yet
[12:57] <popey> not that I've heard anyhow
[12:57] <tshirtman> popey: ok, good to know, i don't want to brick my device ^^
[12:58] <popey> tshirtman: wise!
[12:58] <tshirtman> maybe the wiki should say that this only refer to the 2012 version until further notice?
[12:59] <tinti> so you are not just porting ubuntu to arm devices
[12:59] <tinti> you are aiming a full env like android
[13:00] <ogra_> tinti, we have to ... else we wouldnt be able to drive the hardware ... the drivers and kernel modifications are to different to just have a generic image that works for everyone
[13:00] <popey> tshirtman: great idea - will fix that
[13:00] <popey> tshirtman: which page in particular?
[13:01] <tshirtman> popey: i was looking at this one https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install?action=show&redirect=TouchInstallProcess
[13:01] <popey> tshirtman: cool
[13:01] <tshirtman> thanks :)
[13:01] <popey> tshirtman: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Touch/Install?action=diff&rev2=65&rev1=64
[13:01] <popey> done
[13:02] <tshirtman> nice :)
[13:05] <tinti> thanks for the hints popey :)
[13:06] <popey> no problemo
[13:07]  * popey wanders off to play ouya
[13:38] <electropug> hello
[14:33] <upiferico> Is it possible to have ubuntu touch in spanish?
[14:41] <upiferico> Is it possible to have ubuntu touch in spanish?
[15:53] <AskUbuntu> How to get audio input from Ubuntu touch device? | http://askubuntu.com/q/348349
[16:04] <cwayne_> _salem, ping
[17:23] <nomism> hello. since the file system is read-only, many passages in the releasenotes seem not to be applicable anymore
[17:24] <nomism> is there some documentation aviable on the how to reobtain write mode and possible implications?
[17:40] <calgarytoad> hello all
[18:41] <Ganster41> How to update ubuntu-part of repo?
[18:42] <Ganster41> Or repo sync updates all?
[19:05] <Ganster41> Can I change Ubuntu ramdisk content? Whre it placed in sources tree?
[19:43] <daker> guys i am running saucy, the version of ubuntu-ui-toolkit-theme package 0.1.46+13.10.20130916-0ubuntu1
[19:44] <daker> but i can't use the Picker component it says module "Ubuntu.Components.Pickers" is not installed
[20:01] <Shiggs|i5-2500k> hello
[20:02] <Shiggs|i5-2500k> I have an HP TouchPad and I'm trying to install the stable build of 13.04 onto it. I found an XDA thread by castrwilliam but I can't get the uImage to boot. novaterm keeps saying it can't find the file. Any help?
[20:03] <Shiggs|i5-2500k> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2132703 <== thread in question
[20:03] <Shiggs|i5-2500k> and that I'm referring to
[20:04] <Shiggs|i5-2500k> CarlosNeyPastor: hello
[20:05] <SergenteJoker98> what's the password of the ubuntu touch?
[20:05] <SergenteJoker98> of Lois Mcqueen?
[20:05] <SergenteJoker98> on new os