/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/09/21/#ubuntu-uk.txt

=== Lcawte|Away is now known as Lcawte
brobostigongood morning everyone,09:26
AlanBellmorning brobostigon09:51
brobostigonmorning AlanBell09:51
gordonjcpmorning09:52
brobostigonmorning gordonjcp09:52
gordonjcpbrobostigon: morning09:53
Laneyguten morgen09:55
LaneyHMM09:57
brobostigonguten morgen Laney, wie geht es dir den?09:57
Laneynow where's that spare giffgaff sim09:57
LaneyAH, es geht mir prima, danke!09:57
brobostigongut zu horen.09:58
Laneyspäter werde ich klettern gehen09:59
Laneyund danach zu einem(?) bierfest09:59
brobostigonbier, ja bitte, :D10:02
Laneyah found it10:07
Laneystrangely in the most logical place for it to be10:07
brobostigon:)10:07
czajkowskiLaney: what in a phone :)10:11
Laneyon my "shelf of important things"10:11
Laneyi never actually got round to switching to gg10:12
czajkowskihow crowded is that shelf10:12
czajkowskiwhere are you off to?10:12
Laneynowhere10:12
Laneygot a new phone to try ubuntu on10:12
Laneywanted a sim for it10:12
czajkowskiLaney: nice what kinda phone?10:13
Laneynexus 410:13
Laneydoesn't seem as slidy as my s3 tbh10:14
Laneydon't know what everyone moans about10:14
czajkowskipeople moan fact :)10:17
popeyMorning all10:24
mungbeanmorn10:27
mungbeandoes nexus4 have removable battery laney?10:28
czajkowskipopey: ello10:28
brobostigonmungbean: no.10:29
mungbean:(10:29
Laneymungbean: no cover but i think you can take the back off and get it out10:29
mungbeanglued down?10:29
Laneytorx10:30
mungbeanu want a GG referral link? http://giffgaff.com/orders/affiliate/oimon10:35
Laneyalready got one10:42
mungbeani speak to friends who seem to think that paying £25+ per month without a new phone is ok10:47
* popey makes cottage pie for lunch11:00
AlanBellpopey: does that work (slowly, but might work) http://rat.libertus.co.uk/11:14
popeyAlanBell: waiting...11:21
popeyyes, slowly11:21
AlanBellcool, that is camera to phone hotspot wifi, over ssh over GPRS to my house, and served up again11:22
AlanBellthe GPRS is the slow bit11:22
popeyheh11:23
popeyso I'll bring the camera and battery?11:23
AlanBelljust the battery or lead will do, this camera is set up to join my phone hotspot11:23
popeyok11:25
popeyits full and on charge11:26
popeycould probably run your phone and the camera11:26
Dave2What time are people meeting up in Farnham?11:32
Dave2popey, AlanBell see above, etc11:33
AlanBellDave2: o/11:34
AlanBellDave2: between 4 and 5 I think11:35
AlanBellmeeting at the mulbury11:35
Dave2Hrm. Any idea which end of that spectrum I should aim for?11:37
Dave2That's quite a wide window11:37
Dave216:25 should be easy enough11:38
* popey trims neckbeard11:39
AlanBellpopey: where did you get the USB/camera lead?11:42
popeyno idea11:46
popeyI think it's one I had kicking around for something else11:46
popeybut I can't recall what11:46
popeymaybe a USB hard disk11:46
bigcalmhello fron a service station on the m4011:46
popeyhello bigcalm11:46
popeyit's a double-head usb one11:46
bigcalmello11:47
popeywhich makes me think it was for a 3.5" hard disk enclosure11:47
Dave2Actually, the train that gets in at 15:55 has been cancelled, so it's either 16:25 or 16:5511:49
Dave2or stupidlyearly11:49
Dave2I guess that's me decided for!11:49
bigcalmI joined because Dave2 pinged my email. looks like things are in hand11:49
bigcalmtime for lunch. see you peeps later11:50
Dave2er, except grammatically correct11:50
Dave2Looks like my last train home hasn't been cancelled, which is good.11:51
penguin42Dave2: Yet11:51
Dave2Quite11:51
Dave2Well, there are 2 I should be able to catch after the RAT gets back11:52
Dave2Hopefully they're not both cancelled/there's not a delay somewhere11:52
czajkowskihmm lots of road closures today11:58
TrippseHi all :)12:10
=== hamitron_ is now known as hamitron
mungbeani've found someone on facebook who wants to buy random non-working tech junk in my house :D12:34
mungbeantime to go digging in the loft for more12:34
bashrcnice12:49
mungbeansomebody selling a virgin tivo , are they any use without a virgin line?12:55
popeynope12:57
popeynope12:58
popeyyou need a subscription12:58
mungbeanlame12:58
mungbeanmy son just got 1over par on a 3 hole course on the wii. feel i need to up my game13:02
bashrcyou must be so proud13:03
mungbeannervous13:03
mungbeanhe's only 3, and about to overtake me13:03
* popey installs new games on ouya13:05
mungbeanwhich ones? ouya special one?13:05
popeyAnother World, Deep Dungeon of Doom, Sector Strike and Radiant13:06
popeywell I would play.. it's doing a system update13:07
* popey wonders what magic will happen with this one13:07
mungbeanis it pretty much same as the amiga versin?13:14
mungbeanorf another world?13:15
popeydunno yet13:15
Dave2My phone's telling me that there are no trains13:21
Dave2The web site is telling me otherwise13:21
Dave2I'll trust the web site13:21
popeywell that didn't last13:25
popeySophie is now playing Ouya13:26
bashrchttp://www.extremeta.com/linus-torvalds-said-linuxcon-kernel-developer-panel13:37
Myrtti♥ dsample ♥13:48
Myrttiahem13:48
popey:D13:54
Myrttiit's so fast ♥13:54
popeyWhat did you get?13:56
Myrttiand no, I've not tested it with anything else than my irssi.13:56
popeyhaha13:56
popeywhat else is there!?13:56
nigelbtested what?13:57
nigelbthe utf-8 character?13:57
Myrttiwell I do have a script that currently has a sqlite database about 180M big at the moment behind it13:57
Myrttiand about 30 channels, some quite big13:58
nigelboooh.13:58
Myrttiso the comparison between what a Viglen can do, and what a VM on one of those HP microservers can do is eyewatering13:58
Myrttiusually joining all the channels takes about five minutes during which I can't even change the irssi window13:59
Dave2|phoneI am on a train14:01
Myrttinow all the channels seemed to join instantaneously, and I could equally fast change windows14:01
Dave2|phonethe fitst of many14:01
Dave2|phonefirst14:01
Myrttidsample knows better what he's done with the server. I'm just a happy client/user whatever14:02
MyrttiDave2|phone: choochoo!14:02
Dave2|phonethis is a crappy FGW to north camp14:03
Dave2|phonethen I'll get a crappy south west trains to fatback14:04
Dave2|phoneer14:04
Dave2|phoneFarnham14:04
mungbeansolved by suspend/resume problem ...was a red herring. gnome-screensaver had mysteriously been uninstalled \o/14:06
Dave2|phonepeople slowly ambling up to the train makes me worry it's the wrong one14:07
Dave2|phone.14:08
Dave2|phonetrain has no driver14:08
=== marlinc_ is now known as Marlinc
Dave2|phoneoh good the train's moving14:19
mungbeanmy box.net account is now 100GB \o/15:11
bigcalmHello from Farnham!15:13
MartijnVdSbigcalm: hello from Alphen :)15:15
bigcalmMartijnVdS: the cereal?15:18
MartijnVdSbigcalm: https://www.google.nl/maps/preview#!q=alphen+aan+den+rijn&data=!4m10!1m9!4m8!1m3!1d43524!2d4.674101!3d52.1311648!3m2!1i1334!2i853!4f13.115:18
bigcalmAlanBell: popey: what's happening? When are people going to the pub?15:18
bigcalmDave2: when are you due?15:22
dsamplepopey, all I did was get KVM set up and create some Raring VMs. I'm now trying to work out how to get Chef working to practice with15:22
AlanBellbigcalm here now15:25
AlanBellhttp://rat.libertus.co.uk15:26
bigcalmAlanBell: great. We're getting changed. Hope to be walking over soon15:28
bigcalmAlanBell: we're on our way15:47
SuperEngineerboo!15:47
* SuperEngineer is enjoying a full weekend off :)15:48
SuperEngineerthought I'd take the chance to do a full disk backup so wnt a bought a 1TB disk for external caddy15:50
SuperEngineer*went &15:51
SuperEngineer...hope clonzilla's latest Raring based version will cope ok15:52
AlanBelllook who is here!15:58
* SuperEngineer sticks hand in air & waves16:01
SuperEngineero/16:01
SuperEngineerweee! F! time :)16:15
Myrttichoochoo16:25
SuperEngineerclonezilla iso downloaded - cd burnt - fingers crossed - bfn16:27
* penguin42 wonders what's in http://www.samsung.com/latin_en/consumer/monitor-peripherals-printer/memory-storage/external-drives/SE-208BW/PRWS-spec16:48
penguin42hmm, definitely linux16:59
penguin42looks like a storlink sl2312 ?17:14
celestehhello, I'm trying to pair a bluetooth audio device with my ubuntu laptop and it says it's paired, but it seems to not be making sound. I'm on ubuntu studio 13.04. Any suggestions of how to troubleshoot would be welcome17:47
celesteh_aplay -l does not list it, but it says it's paired17:49
penguin42celesteh_: what about  cat /proc/asound/cards17:51
Monotoko2Well, I just set off a security alert at the airport17:54
penguin42lots of curly cables connected to lots of black boxes left in a laptop bag?17:55
penguin42(ooh a laptop...)17:55
Monotoko2client emailed for urgent help with his servers, got approval from my boss for time and a half, called and told them who I was and that I needed access to their servers17:55
Monotoko2it wasn't until I was logged in that I realised I'd misdialed the number17:55
penguin42ok - and this set of a security alert how?17:56
Monotoko2I called them back to explain, they instantly shut me out and told me they have to follow security procedures for a breach at this point17:56
penguin42oops17:57
Monotoko2aye, think I may have got someone fired17:58
penguin42double oops17:59
Monotoko2just wondering, I assume the law can't be used against me here? Since it was authorised access...even if it was to the wrong system18:00
penguin42hang on - so you called some random number that you didn't actually know and they gave you login details for their servers? What auth did they ask for from you?18:00
Monotoko2they asked for my name and my company name... which I gave them, they said they would be right back and put me on hold, came back 5 minutes later telling me they've made me an admin account that can use sudo18:01
penguin42does your company name support them as well?18:02
Monotoko2at this point I'm thinking "this client never used to have an IT department..." and nope18:02
penguin42haha yeh that's bizarre18:02
Monotoko2I refused to give them my home address when they asked, told them they can come to my workplace on Monday and we can discuss it, they threatened to use the law against me18:05
Monotoko2which is why I'm a bit worried >.>18:05
ali1234that's awesome18:19
ali1234you should definitely sell your story to every newspaper you can find18:20
Monotoko2honestly tempted, but I will see if they come on Monday first18:20
ali1234i'd contact a lawyer if i were you18:21
shaunonot sure I'd actually worry about it.  there's no malintent there, which is what a court would look for.  you've just got someone who's trying to shift/share blame because its put them in a very embarassing (/negligent) position18:21
ali1234because even though you have done nothing wrong, there is every chance that someone will try to shift the blame and start using words like "terrorist"18:22
ali1234at which point you can disappear18:22
ali1234so at least your lawyer will know to ... you know, make sure that hasn't happened18:22
Monotoko2yeah that's what I'm worried about... if it was anything but an airport, I wouldn't worry so much18:22
shaunoI certainly wouldn't push it if I were them, because all it'd do is make a huge lapse on their part, public record.  I'd be trying to hush it out of existence asap18:23
Monotoko2I mean I called them to tell them the moment I ls'd the root directory and realised I wasn't on the server I wanted...and they likely have the logs to prove that I ls'd and that's all18:24
ali1234it depends if someone decides to make an example or not18:25
ali1234the facts don't matter at all18:25
shaunoie, make you feel guilty about it so you don't feel inclined to open your mouth.  but don't try to prove you guilty because it'd force you to open your mouth18:25
ali1234get a lawyer18:25
AlanBellchoo choo18:25
ali1234the law doesn't matter either18:25
Monotoko2I can't afford a lawyer .-. I will speak to management on Monday, tell them what happened and ask what they would do18:26
Monotoko2if they agree that I need a lawyer at this point, they'll hopefully get one for me18:27
directhexali1234, that "FTL - Linux Depot" bug you had yesterday? you'll be delighted to know it happens on windows too21:21
ali1234nice21:22
ali1234rocketbirds is broken too. on linux it installs nothing at all21:22
directhexthat's pretty common21:22
ali1234it's the only one that did it out of 50 linux games i now have21:23
directhexthere's couple of beta branches, but they're passworded21:23
ali1234gamepad doesn't work in rochard21:37
ali1234capsized has a joystick remapping screen that doesn't work22:11
ali1234if you map "walk left" to dpad left and "switch weapon" to left trigger pushing dpad left makes you walk left (like you told it) and also switch weapon constantly (which is the default)22:12
ali1234snapshot is another "error: missing executable"22:19
ali1234i just want to play a game :(22:20
ali1234is there a website somewhere that tracks which steam games actually work?22:21
directhexali1234, steamdb.info/linux22:46
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