[09:26] <brobostigon> good morning everyone,
[09:51] <AlanBell> morning brobostigon
[09:51] <brobostigon> morning AlanBell
[09:52] <gordonjcp> morning
[09:52] <brobostigon> morning gordonjcp
[09:53] <gordonjcp> brobostigon: morning
[09:55] <Laney> guten morgen
[09:57] <Laney> HMM
[09:57] <brobostigon> guten morgen Laney, wie geht es dir den?
[09:57] <Laney> now where's that spare giffgaff sim
[09:57] <Laney> AH, es geht mir prima, danke!
[09:58] <brobostigon> gut zu horen.
[09:59] <Laney> später werde ich klettern gehen
[09:59] <Laney> und danach zu einem(?) bierfest
[10:02] <brobostigon> bier, ja bitte, :D
[10:07] <Laney> ah found it
[10:07] <Laney> strangely in the most logical place for it to be
[10:07] <brobostigon> :)
[10:11] <czajkowski> Laney: what in a phone :)
[10:11] <Laney> on my "shelf of important things"
[10:12] <Laney> i never actually got round to switching to gg
[10:12] <czajkowski> how crowded is that shelf
[10:12] <czajkowski> where are you off to?
[10:12] <Laney> nowhere
[10:12] <Laney> got a new phone to try ubuntu on
[10:12] <Laney> wanted a sim for it
[10:13] <czajkowski> Laney: nice what kinda phone?
[10:13] <Laney> nexus 4
[10:14] <Laney> doesn't seem as slidy as my s3 tbh
[10:14] <Laney> don't know what everyone moans about
[10:17] <czajkowski> people moan fact :)
[10:24] <popey> Morning all
[10:27] <mungbean> morn
[10:28] <mungbean> does nexus4 have removable battery laney?
[10:28] <czajkowski> popey: ello
[10:29] <brobostigon> mungbean: no.
[10:29] <mungbean> :(
[10:29] <Laney> mungbean: no cover but i think you can take the back off and get it out
[10:29] <mungbean> glued down?
[10:30] <Laney> torx
[10:35] <mungbean> u want a GG referral link? http://giffgaff.com/orders/affiliate/oimon
[10:42] <Laney> already got one
[10:47] <mungbean> i speak to friends who seem to think that paying £25+ per month without a new phone is ok
[11:00]  * popey makes cottage pie for lunch
[11:14] <AlanBell> popey: does that work (slowly, but might work) http://rat.libertus.co.uk/
[11:21] <popey> AlanBell: waiting...
[11:21] <popey> yes, slowly
[11:22] <AlanBell> cool, that is camera to phone hotspot wifi, over ssh over GPRS to my house, and served up again
[11:22] <AlanBell> the GPRS is the slow bit
[11:23] <popey> heh
[11:23] <popey> so I'll bring the camera and battery?
[11:23] <AlanBell> just the battery or lead will do, this camera is set up to join my phone hotspot
[11:25] <popey> ok
[11:26] <popey> its full and on charge
[11:26] <popey> could probably run your phone and the camera
[11:32] <Dave2> What time are people meeting up in Farnham?
[11:33] <Dave2> popey, AlanBell see above, etc
[11:34] <AlanBell> Dave2: o/
[11:35] <AlanBell> Dave2: between 4 and 5 I think
[11:35] <AlanBell> meeting at the mulbury
[11:37] <Dave2> Hrm. Any idea which end of that spectrum I should aim for?
[11:37] <Dave2> That's quite a wide window
[11:38] <Dave2> 16:25 should be easy enough
[11:39]  * popey trims neckbeard
[11:42] <AlanBell> popey: where did you get the USB/camera lead?
[11:46] <popey> no idea
[11:46] <popey> I think it's one I had kicking around for something else
[11:46] <popey> but I can't recall what
[11:46] <popey> maybe a USB hard disk
[11:46] <bigcalm> hello fron a service station on the m40
[11:46] <popey> hello bigcalm
[11:46] <popey> it's a double-head usb one
[11:47] <bigcalm> ello
[11:47] <popey> which makes me think it was for a 3.5" hard disk enclosure
[11:49] <Dave2> Actually, the train that gets in at 15:55 has been cancelled, so it's either 16:25 or 16:55
[11:49] <Dave2> or stupidlyearly
[11:49] <Dave2> I guess that's me decided for!
[11:49] <bigcalm> I joined because Dave2 pinged my email. looks like things are in hand
[11:50] <bigcalm> time for lunch. see you peeps later
[11:50] <Dave2> er, except grammatically correct
[11:51] <Dave2> Looks like my last train home hasn't been cancelled, which is good.
[11:51] <penguin42> Dave2: Yet
[11:51] <Dave2> Quite
[11:52] <Dave2> Well, there are 2 I should be able to catch after the RAT gets back
[11:52] <Dave2> Hopefully they're not both cancelled/there's not a delay somewhere
[11:58] <czajkowski> hmm lots of road closures today
[12:10] <Trippse> Hi all :)
[12:34] <mungbean> i've found someone on facebook who wants to buy random non-working tech junk in my house :D
[12:34] <mungbean> time to go digging in the loft for more
[12:49] <bashrc> nice
[12:55] <mungbean> somebody selling a virgin tivo , are they any use without a virgin line?
[12:57] <popey> nope
[12:58] <popey> nope
[12:58] <popey> you need a subscription
[12:58] <mungbean> lame
[13:02] <mungbean> my son just got 1over par on a 3 hole course on the wii. feel i need to up my game
[13:03] <bashrc> you must be so proud
[13:03] <mungbean> nervous
[13:03] <mungbean> he's only 3, and about to overtake me
[13:05]  * popey installs new games on ouya
[13:05] <mungbean> which ones? ouya special one?
[13:06] <popey> Another World, Deep Dungeon of Doom, Sector Strike and Radiant
[13:07] <popey> well I would play.. it's doing a system update
[13:07]  * popey wonders what magic will happen with this one
[13:14] <mungbean> is it pretty much same as the amiga versin?
[13:15] <mungbean> orf another world?
[13:15] <popey> dunno yet
[13:21] <Dave2> My phone's telling me that there are no trains
[13:21] <Dave2> The web site is telling me otherwise
[13:21] <Dave2> I'll trust the web site
[13:25] <popey> well that didn't last
[13:26] <popey> Sophie is now playing Ouya
[13:37] <bashrc> http://www.extremeta.com/linus-torvalds-said-linuxcon-kernel-developer-panel
[13:48] <Myrtti> ♥ dsample ♥
[13:48] <Myrtti> ahem
[13:54] <popey> :D
[13:54] <Myrtti> it's so fast ♥
[13:56] <popey> What did you get?
[13:56] <Myrtti> and no, I've not tested it with anything else than my irssi.
[13:56] <popey> haha
[13:56] <popey> what else is there!?
[13:57] <nigelb> tested what?
[13:57] <nigelb> the utf-8 character?
[13:57] <Myrtti> well I do have a script that currently has a sqlite database about 180M big at the moment behind it
[13:58] <Myrtti> and about 30 channels, some quite big
[13:58] <nigelb> oooh.
[13:58] <Myrtti> so the comparison between what a Viglen can do, and what a VM on one of those HP microservers can do is eyewatering
[13:59] <Myrtti> usually joining all the channels takes about five minutes during which I can't even change the irssi window
[14:01] <Dave2|phone> I am on a train
[14:01] <Myrtti> now all the channels seemed to join instantaneously, and I could equally fast change windows
[14:01] <Dave2|phone> the fitst of many
[14:01] <Dave2|phone> first
[14:02] <Myrtti> dsample knows better what he's done with the server. I'm just a happy client/user whatever
[14:02] <Myrtti> Dave2|phone: choochoo!
[14:03] <Dave2|phone> this is a crappy FGW to north camp
[14:04] <Dave2|phone> then I'll get a crappy south west trains to fatback
[14:04] <Dave2|phone> er
[14:04] <Dave2|phone> Farnham
[14:06] <mungbean> solved by suspend/resume problem ...was a red herring. gnome-screensaver had mysteriously been uninstalled \o/
[14:07] <Dave2|phone> people slowly ambling up to the train makes me worry it's the wrong one
[14:08] <Dave2|phone> .
[14:08] <Dave2|phone> train has no driver
[14:19] <Dave2|phone> oh good the train's moving
[15:11] <mungbean> my box.net account is now 100GB \o/
[15:13] <bigcalm> Hello from Farnham!
[15:15] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: hello from Alphen :)
[15:18] <bigcalm> MartijnVdS: the cereal?
[15:18] <MartijnVdS> bigcalm: https://www.google.nl/maps/preview#!q=alphen+aan+den+rijn&data=!4m10!1m9!4m8!1m3!1d43524!2d4.674101!3d52.1311648!3m2!1i1334!2i853!4f13.1
[15:18] <bigcalm> AlanBell: popey: what's happening? When are people going to the pub?
[15:22] <bigcalm> Dave2: when are you due?
[15:22] <dsample> popey, all I did was get KVM set up and create some Raring VMs. I'm now trying to work out how to get Chef working to practice with
[15:25] <AlanBell> bigcalm here now
[15:26] <AlanBell> http://rat.libertus.co.uk
[15:28] <bigcalm> AlanBell: great. We're getting changed. Hope to be walking over soon
[15:47] <bigcalm> AlanBell: we're on our way
[15:47] <SuperEngineer> boo!
[15:48]  * SuperEngineer is enjoying a full weekend off :)
[15:50] <SuperEngineer> thought I'd take the chance to do a full disk backup so wnt a bought a 1TB disk for external caddy
[15:51] <SuperEngineer> *went &
[15:52] <SuperEngineer> ...hope clonzilla's latest Raring based version will cope ok
[15:58] <AlanBell> look who is here!
[16:01]  * SuperEngineer sticks hand in air & waves
[16:01] <SuperEngineer> o/
[16:15] <SuperEngineer> weee! F! time :)
[16:25] <Myrtti> choochoo
[16:27] <SuperEngineer> clonezilla iso downloaded - cd burnt - fingers crossed - bfn
[16:48]  * penguin42 wonders what's in http://www.samsung.com/latin_en/consumer/monitor-peripherals-printer/memory-storage/external-drives/SE-208BW/PRWS-spec
[16:59] <penguin42> hmm, definitely linux
[17:14] <penguin42> looks like a storlink sl2312 ?
[17:47] <celesteh> hello, I'm trying to pair a bluetooth audio device with my ubuntu laptop and it says it's paired, but it seems to not be making sound. I'm on ubuntu studio 13.04. Any suggestions of how to troubleshoot would be welcome
[17:49] <celesteh_> aplay -l does not list it, but it says it's paired
[17:51] <penguin42> celesteh_: what about  cat /proc/asound/cards
[17:54] <Monotoko2> Well, I just set off a security alert at the airport
[17:55] <penguin42> lots of curly cables connected to lots of black boxes left in a laptop bag?
[17:55] <penguin42> (ooh a laptop...)
[17:55] <Monotoko2> client emailed for urgent help with his servers, got approval from my boss for time and a half, called and told them who I was and that I needed access to their servers
[17:55] <Monotoko2> it wasn't until I was logged in that I realised I'd misdialed the number
[17:56] <penguin42> ok - and this set of a security alert how?
[17:56] <Monotoko2> I called them back to explain, they instantly shut me out and told me they have to follow security procedures for a breach at this point
[17:57] <penguin42> oops
[17:58] <Monotoko2> aye, think I may have got someone fired
[17:59] <penguin42> double oops
[18:00] <Monotoko2> just wondering, I assume the law can't be used against me here? Since it was authorised access...even if it was to the wrong system
[18:00] <penguin42> hang on - so you called some random number that you didn't actually know and they gave you login details for their servers? What auth did they ask for from you?
[18:01] <Monotoko2> they asked for my name and my company name... which I gave them, they said they would be right back and put me on hold, came back 5 minutes later telling me they've made me an admin account that can use sudo
[18:02] <penguin42> does your company name support them as well?
[18:02] <Monotoko2> at this point I'm thinking "this client never used to have an IT department..." and nope
[18:02] <penguin42> haha yeh that's bizarre
[18:05] <Monotoko2> I refused to give them my home address when they asked, told them they can come to my workplace on Monday and we can discuss it, they threatened to use the law against me
[18:05] <Monotoko2> which is why I'm a bit worried >.>
[18:19] <ali1234> that's awesome
[18:20] <ali1234> you should definitely sell your story to every newspaper you can find
[18:20] <Monotoko2> honestly tempted, but I will see if they come on Monday first
[18:21] <ali1234> i'd contact a lawyer if i were you
[18:21] <shauno> not sure I'd actually worry about it.  there's no malintent there, which is what a court would look for.  you've just got someone who's trying to shift/share blame because its put them in a very embarassing (/negligent) position
[18:22] <ali1234> because even though you have done nothing wrong, there is every chance that someone will try to shift the blame and start using words like "terrorist"
[18:22] <ali1234> at which point you can disappear
[18:22] <ali1234> so at least your lawyer will know to ... you know, make sure that hasn't happened
[18:22] <Monotoko2> yeah that's what I'm worried about... if it was anything but an airport, I wouldn't worry so much
[18:23] <shauno> I certainly wouldn't push it if I were them, because all it'd do is make a huge lapse on their part, public record.  I'd be trying to hush it out of existence asap
[18:24] <Monotoko2> I mean I called them to tell them the moment I ls'd the root directory and realised I wasn't on the server I wanted...and they likely have the logs to prove that I ls'd and that's all
[18:25] <ali1234> it depends if someone decides to make an example or not
[18:25] <ali1234> the facts don't matter at all
[18:25] <shauno> ie, make you feel guilty about it so you don't feel inclined to open your mouth.  but don't try to prove you guilty because it'd force you to open your mouth
[18:25] <ali1234> get a lawyer
[18:25] <AlanBell> choo choo
[18:25] <ali1234> the law doesn't matter either
[18:26] <Monotoko2> I can't afford a lawyer .-. I will speak to management on Monday, tell them what happened and ask what they would do
[18:27] <Monotoko2> if they agree that I need a lawyer at this point, they'll hopefully get one for me
[21:21] <directhex> ali1234, that "FTL - Linux Depot" bug you had yesterday? you'll be delighted to know it happens on windows too
[21:22] <ali1234> nice
[21:22] <ali1234> rocketbirds is broken too. on linux it installs nothing at all
[21:22] <directhex> that's pretty common
[21:23] <ali1234> it's the only one that did it out of 50 linux games i now have
[21:23] <directhex> there's couple of beta branches, but they're passworded
[21:37] <ali1234> gamepad doesn't work in rochard
[22:11] <ali1234> capsized has a joystick remapping screen that doesn't work
[22:12] <ali1234> if you map "walk left" to dpad left and "switch weapon" to left trigger pushing dpad left makes you walk left (like you told it) and also switch weapon constantly (which is the default)
[22:19] <ali1234> snapshot is another "error: missing executable"
[22:20] <ali1234> i just want to play a game :(
[22:21] <ali1234> is there a website somewhere that tracks which steam games actually work?
[22:46] <directhex> ali1234, steamdb.info/linux