[00:00] <tsquar3d> wilee-nilee:  Yeah... the bios won't let me choose legacy.
[00:00] <wilee-nilee> ah, stsrange
[00:00] <smaudet> tsquar3d, yeah you need a legacy boot mode, I can set mine to dual uefi/legacy, which is pretty sweet actually
[00:00] <wilee-nilee> strange*
[00:00] <smaudet> It really shouldn't be called 'legacy', it should be called 'pos'/'awesomeboot'
[00:01] <smaudet> instead of efi/legacy
[00:01] <wilee-nilee> tsquar3d, Have you checked for bios updates?
[00:01] <tsquar3d> Isn't there a ia32 uefi remix floating around out there? I have been searching and searching but can't find it... for like any distro.
[00:01] <bekks> tsquar3d: Which ubuntu version do you use?
[00:01] <tsquar3d> wilee-nilee: Well, no, but I just got this beast... but I can see.
[00:01] <smaudet> tsquar3d, so the last time I had to deal with efi was when I triple booted a macbook
[00:02] <smaudet> tsquar3d, and we had this thing called reFind which let you boot bios-based systems
[00:02] <smaudet> including 32-bit systems
[00:02] <smaudet> In fact that's what I used to triple boot 10.6.8/windows xp/ubuntu
[00:02] <GogoPogo> wilee-nilee: thanks!
[00:03] <tsquar3d> smaudet: I have reFIND... it does not show my 13.04 32 bit disk.
[00:03] <tsquar3d> :-(
[00:03] <tsquar3d> It just shows windoze.
[00:03] <smaudet> tsquar3d, yeah, dunno, this is uefi, not efi
[00:03] <Territoriojoven> hi so
[00:03] <smaudet> efi was a nice idea with some problems, uefi I think is the trashy windows implementation
[00:03] <Territoriojoven> i downloaded an iso image but the wubi inside didn't worked, then i tried using the windows installer from the same folder but it's not working
[00:04] <smaudet> at least it seems to be so far
[00:04] <Territoriojoven> now i think i just have to download the same version
[00:04] <Territoriojoven> fuck
[00:04] <kostkon> Territoriojoven, this is a family friendly channel
[00:04] <Territoriojoven> aw
[00:04] <wilee-nilee> !language  Territoriojoven
[00:04] <compdoc> uefi is still evolving. the gui is improving
[00:04] <wilee-nilee> !language | Territoriojoven
[00:05] <eein> kostkon: well at least it asked me if i want to run the plugin but no go with pipelight, thanks anyway
[00:05] <smaudet> 'still evolving' - you got that right
[00:05] <kostkon> eein, np
[00:05] <smaudet> I suppose bios used to have some nasty bugs too
[00:06] <smaudet> efi was actually decent, but that's because there was only one company involved
[00:06] <eein> dell custom crippled bios is a fav
[00:06] <wilee-nilee> Territoriojoven, wubi is a wasye of time you have to use its downloader in windows.
[00:06] <tsquar3d> Yeah... it kinda makes me want to hurt things.
[00:06] <wilee-nilee> waste*
[00:06] <Territoriojoven> yes but
[00:06] <Territoriojoven> i first downloaded the iso thinking it was the only wait
[00:06] <Territoriojoven> way*
[00:07] <Territoriojoven> then i found out there was a windows installer, and that my iso wouldn't work
[00:07] <wilee-nilee> Territoriojoven, You have to do research.
[00:07] <Territoriojoven> but then that i could use both windows installer and iso together
[00:07] <Territoriojoven> but it didn't worked
[00:07] <Territoriojoven> so now im downloading what i hope is the right version to use with the installer.
[00:07] <wilee-nilee> Territoriojoven, does not work in uefi, is that the situation.
[00:07] <kostkon> Territoriojoven, that definitely not the case, use them together
[00:07] <kostkon> that's
[00:09] <kostkon> Territoriojoven, wubi currently won't work properly on win8 installations, what is your windows ver?
[00:09] <kostkon> Territoriojoven, try again booting the iso
[00:10] <Territoriojoven> kostkon: win xp
[00:10] <Territoriojoven> and no, too late for the iso now.
[00:10] <kostkon> Territoriojoven, :/
[00:10] <Territoriojoven> hue
[00:11] <wilee-nilee> Territoriojoven, XP is end o\f life in about 200 days
[00:26] <Johnny_Linux> thats when everyone should drop win a;ll together
[00:26] <Johnny_Linux> argentina gov is about to provide all gov a ubuntu disc and forget windoze
[00:26] <wilee-nilee> !ot | Johnny_Linux
[00:27] <Johnny_Linux> knock it off wilee-nilee  , there are mmany others as well as you that ocassionally make comments, go bully some one esle
[00:32] <startthink> http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2013/09/19/obamas-claim-that-non-budget-items-have-never-been-attached-to-the-debt-ceiling/ <<Stop being fooled by partisan and political smokescreens and start thinking.
[00:33] <wilee-nilee> !ot | startthink
[00:33] <startthink> ok
[00:34] <yougothax0rd> Hello, I am currently having severe problems after upgrading from 12.04 to 12.10.
[00:34] <yougothax0rd> Anyone care to help?
[00:36] <wilee-nilee> !details | yougothax0rd
[00:36] <adymitruk> How do I add another lo adapter with 127.0.0.1?
[00:37] <adymitruk> 127.0.0.2
[00:38] <deanspeed> I need to install Ubuntu on an external hdd from windows, so I was going to use the windows ubuntu installer, then I noticed it started downloading the 64bit version. Is there any way to tell it to download the 32bit? I need to be able to run it on a 32bit machine.
[00:38] <wilee-nilee> deanspeed, Not gonna run very well I would use a usb flash.
[00:39] <adymitruk> ?
[00:39] <daftykins> deanspeed: WUBI? that's a really, really bad idea
[00:39] <wilee-nilee> deanspeed, A wubi on a external?
[00:39] <meltingwax> how can i find the hardware model / vendor of my machine from the command line?
[00:39] <deanspeed> really? hmm...
[00:39] <smaudet> Johnny_Linux, no need to be rude about it, but you are right
[00:40] <smaudet> Johnny_Linux, however usually those people are here for a support question, I think that's why he !ot'ed you
[00:41] <yougothax0rd> Ok. I have a problem with booting into Ubuntu. I can use the GRUB loader and use recovery mode, but I either get a blank, black screen trying to boot into Ubuntu 12.10 or it goes into tty1. After I login in tty1 it says "Welcome to Ubuntu etc, etc" and goes into Terminal. If helpful, here hae the specs of my computer, a Toshiba L885 s5372: http://cdgenp01.csd.toshiba.com/content/product/pdf_files/detailed_specs/satellite_L855-S5372
[00:41] <Johnny_Linux> he just like to throw his weight around, im almost 60 yrs old, im a pretty good judge of character by now, with that, i will sit back quiet. thanks.
[00:41] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | yougothax0rd this a nvidia?
[00:41] <yougothax0rd> No, it runs Intel HD 4000 graphics.
[00:41] <yougothax0rd> It has no discrete GPU
[00:42] <wilee-nilee> yougothax0rd, Ah that is problematic as I have read.
[00:42] <smaudet> yougothax0rd, try turning up the brightness
[00:42] <smaudet> I have the exact same problem
[00:42] <smaudet> it is a backlight bug
[00:43] <yougothax0rd> turning brightness up or down works just fine
[00:43] <wilee-nilee> yougothax0rd, 12.04 has 5 years support if that works I would use 12.4.3 it gas the raring kernel.
[00:43] <smaudet> yougothax0rd, so what's the problem? Maybe I'm confused - I have an Intel HD 4000 as well
[00:43] <wilee-nilee> has*
[00:43] <yougothax0rd> how do I backdate my system, then?
[00:44] <yougothax0rd> I have a 12.04 Live CD
[00:44] <wilee-nilee> yougothax0rd, You can't down grade, this is when an image would have been a good idea
[00:44] <yougothax0rd> That's fine. I already have all my data backed up lol
[00:45] <wilee-nilee> yougothax0rd, If you go back to 12.04 get the latest download is all.
[00:45] <yougothax0rd> Ok than you.
[00:45] <yougothax0rd> *thank
[00:45] <wilee-nilee> no problem
[00:45] <yougothax0rd> btw, if I upgrade to 13.04 will the problem still persist?
[00:46] <wilee-nilee> yougothax0rd, Not sure myself.
[00:46] <wilee-nilee> yougothax0rd, There are many threads on askubuntu on that graphic, might be worth looking.
[00:47] <yougothax0rd> Will do. I'm still new to Ubuntu/Linux in general haha. Still trying to get the hang of things
[00:47] <smaudet> yougothax0rd, again I have an Intel HD 4000 integrated card, seems to work just fine here on 13.04
[00:47] <Territoriojoven> so, i finished ubuntu-12.04.3-alternate-amd64 but the wubi is not taking it
[00:47] <yougothax0rd> Once again, thanks for your help.
[00:48] <wilee-nilee> Territoriojoven, Are you trying wubi because you are forced to, or is this a choice?
[00:48] <Territoriojoven> i thought it was the easiest option
[00:48] <Territoriojoven> torrent is fastewr
[00:49] <wilee-nilee> Territoriojoven, Not even, forst your XP will be eol in 200 dyas or so, and wubi is only for trying out in lieu of a install, and has very little support I only know of one user who does support.
[00:49] <wilee-nilee> first*
[00:50] <Territoriojoven> wat
[00:51] <startthink> http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/wp/2013/09/19/obamas-claim-that-non-budget-items-have-never-been-attached-to-the-debt-ceiling/ <<Stop being fooled by partisan and political smokescreens and start thinking.
[00:52] <Johnny_Linux> ok
[00:55] <Zutara> Hi. I'm having an issue with mounting my Flash Drive. The commands in the pastebin here [http://pastebin.com/pGJzuXxN] are ones I've tried using to rectify it. It was working fine ~5 hours ago....
[00:55] <Zutara> Anyone got any ideas?
[00:55] <Zutara> I'm running Elementary OS tw.
[00:55] <Zutara> *btw
[00:56] <bekks> Zutara: Then please refer to the ElementaryOS support, this is an Ubuntu support channel.
[00:57] <Zutara> I have. I just figured since Elementary is based off of Ubuntu you guys might be able to help me out. I'm currently waiting for a response from #elementary.
[00:57] <fellayaboy> hey if i wanted to install ubuntu minimal onto my usb...i should burn the disk and run the live install and isntead of using my hard drive choose my usb?
[00:57] <Territoriojoven> do I just wait? http://i.imgur.com/0dHNs4U.png
[00:57] <fellayaboy> to install?
[00:57] <Ari-Yang> fellayaboy, I recommend to just make a bootable USB for installing ubuntu on a computer....
[00:58] <Ari-Yang> fellayaboy, if you're on windows: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[00:58] <fellayaboy> no i wont want to install onto computer..
[00:59] <fellayaboy> i want to run it live but i want to be able to save all my data
[00:59] <fellayaboy> like bookmarks..terminal programs... etc
[00:59] <Zutara> fellayaboy, Then yes, install it to the USB when you run the install on the Live disk.
[00:59] <wilee-nilee> fellayaboy, The minimal is a install, not a live environment, and as of 12.10 the net install.
[01:00] <fellayaboy> oohhh
[01:00] <satmandu> Is anybody having issues with console-kit-daemon taking up huge amounts of real memory?
[01:00] <fellayaboy> darn it
[01:00] <satmandu> from top: 1871 root      20   0 4090m 3940 2812 S   0.0  0.0   0:00.25 console-kit-dae  << That's 4Gb!
[01:01] <fellayaboy> is their a live terminal based usb os based of ubuntu/debian?
[01:01] <fellayaboy> where i can save my programs that i installed
[01:02] <fellayaboy> i dont want to use the offical live cd cuz some computer crap out and wont run the ubuntu live so i want to stay away from it
 do I just wait? http://i.imgur.com/0dHNs4U.png
[01:03] <nanashi> Ew wubi.
[01:03] <DarthEaron> hi eveyone!!!
[01:03] <Zutara> Yo.
[01:05] <logic5> is the ubuntu repository server down
[01:06] <wilee-nilee> logic5, there are many repos
 <Territoriojoven> do I just wait? http://i.imgur.com/0dHNs4U.png
[01:07] <Zutara> How long's it been since you've started it Territoriojoven
[01:07] <Territoriojoven> 15 minutes
[01:07] <Territoriojoven> at least
[01:08] <Zutara> Has the time gone down since you started?
[01:09] <wilee-nilee> Territoriojoven, The one user I know of that is the only real support for wubi is on the ubuntu forums.
[01:09] <Territoriojoven> i don't understand
[01:09] <Territoriojoven> did you all installled from a cd or usb?
[01:09] <Zutara> I installed from USB.
[01:10] <Territoriojoven> ugh
[01:10] <wilee-nilee> Territoriojoven, wubi is not hardly used.
[01:10] <Zutara> But have done so from CD in the past.
[01:10] <Ari-Yang> if you want to install ubuntu and have it replace windows: http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/create-a-usb-stick-on-windows
[01:10] <logic5> when trying to install or update apt-get stuff i get errors when updating i get: Some index files failed to download. They have been ignored, or old ones used instead.
[01:11] <logic5> anyone have ideas of what it is
[01:11] <Zutara> Your sources file is messed up.
[01:11] <logic5> any stuff i can read about fixing the source file?
[01:11] <wilee-nilee> logic5, change the repo maybe
[01:11] <Zutara> Have you added any new ones recently?
[01:11] <wilee-nilee> logic5, there is #ubuntu-server if needed
[01:12] <logic5> zutara not that i receall but i did use a few commands copy past without really giving thought
[01:12] <logic5> thanks wilee-nilee and i like the name
[01:14] <sb057> is hexchat in the repos yet
[01:15] <wilee-nilee> sb057, there is a ppa
[01:15] <Ari-Yang> sb057, not in ubuntu's repos, but yeah, there is a ppa
[01:15] <kostkon> !find hexchat
[01:15] <amptrofa> I have a question about building something from source when i need the -dev package as well... can anyone help me?
[01:15] <Ari-Yang> sb057, https://launchpad.net/~gwendal-lebihan-dev/+archive/hexchat-stable
[01:15] <Zutara> logic5, search the ubuntu forums for 'Fix broken sources file'.
[01:16] <reisio> it's a fork of xchat, just use xchat until hexchat replaces it
[01:16] <Zutara> That's how I fixed mine back when i had problems upgrading packages.
[01:16] <reisio> the differences at present are quite minimal
[01:17] <Ari-Yang> uh no, if you want to use hexchat, jump on the wagon, sb057
[01:17] <Ari-Yang> just add the ppa and apt-get hexchat
[01:18] <sb057> I was just asking for a friend
[01:18] <Ari-Yang> *nod*
[01:18] <sb057> Ive been using HexChat since release
[01:20] <kristenbb> hi, i'm trying to setup a key based auth ssh, but it's not working. I did the procedure a  long time ago so I'm not sure what I did anymore, but I think I just tried to use ssh-keygen and then copy the .pub into the remote host's authorized_keys file. -vvv shows publickey auth is failing.  What could be wrong ?
[01:21] <kristenbb> I also tried ssh-copy-id but it still asks  me for a password.
[01:23] <Kalel> Greetings folks.. My today's doubt is: How can i make my Raring change to headphones automaticallly when I plug a jack adaptor? I always have to go in the 'sound configurations' and change it.. A little frustating.
[01:25] <ancaster> kristenbb, it may be that the permissions set on your home folder or ~/.ssh folder aren't correct
[01:26] <dion> why don't have have root or "sudo" access in my GUI windows?
[01:26] <ancaster> iirc, they can't be world read/writeable, and your .ssh can only be user read/writeable
[01:26] <urgodfather> hello room, does anyone in here use jdownloader?
[01:26] <dion> how can I get this access?
[01:27] <kostkon> Kalel, what's the sound card
[01:27] <Ari-Yang> urgodfather, there's #jDownloader
[01:27] <ChogyDan> dion: which gui window?  Is this just browsing files?
[01:27] <dion> ChogyDan: I am trying to drag a zip file onto an external SD car
[01:28] <dion> and I get a permission denied error
[01:28] <urgodfather> Ari-Yang: im in there too, keep in the devs live in Germany so they are probably asleep
[01:28] <Kalel> kostkon: I'm using hda, my hardware is pretty new, supports beats audio. Running alsamixer as well..
[01:28] <kostkon> Kalel, this is usually a hardware issue
[01:29] <fellayaboy> why is their 3 dvds in debian torrent
[01:29] <reisio> fellayaboy: it's basically all the software you can install on Debian, not just the OS
[01:29] <cfhowlett> fellayaboy, why ask #ubuntu?  ask debian.
[01:29] <reisio> fellayaboy: if you want just the OS, you'd want CD1 alone, or any of the netinstall images
[01:29] <wilee-nilee> fellayaboy, this is ubuntu not debian
[01:30] <fellayaboy> sorry wrong channel
[01:30] <Kalel> kostkon: Can't I change something in the respective file to make it change automatically?
[01:31] <kostkon> Kalel, what's the output of:  aplay -l   paste it .e.g. on pastebin.com
[01:31] <urgodfather> another question... i have a system at work that we loaded with ubuntu... backlight doesnt work out of the box, but after forcing it on via terminal, it works.. how to set so it will at boot i.e. from grub?
[01:31] <ChogyDan> dion: I don't really know the real fix, but I suppose you can do gksu nautilus <location>
[01:32] <kristenbb> ancaster: the permissions seem right, what else could be the problem?
[01:32] <dion> ChogyDan: whats nautilus?
[01:32] <ChogyDan> dion: it's the program where you can drag and drop files
[01:33] <Kalel> kostkon: http://pastebin.com/iM8xUgK8
[01:33] <ancaster> kristenbb, try running ssh with -v. Messages there might help explain why
[01:34] <kristenbb> I tried -vvv but didn't find anything weird
[01:34] <ancaster> kristenbb: can also use -vv when desperate.  post your output somewhere and we'll have a look.
[01:34] <craigbass1976> I'm hunting on the forums for sna-dc (a model number) and getting everything but what I'm looking for.  Is ther a way on the forums to search for an exact term only?
[01:35] <Zutara> Hi. Need help with mounting a flash drive. I got it mounted to /mnt but then I unmounted it and mounted it to sudo mount /dev/sdd1 / and am now unable to unmount it. Terminal says it's busy. Can I just unplug it and plug it back in?
[01:35] <kostkon> Kalel, bug 580233
[01:35] <wilee-nilee> Zutara, YOur OS is not supported here
[01:36] <Kalel> Thank you, kostkon. I'm reading about this issue..
[01:36] <wilee-nilee> Zutara, try #elementary
[01:37] <kristenbb> ancaster: found it, couldnt ssh into the remote without logging in first because the home is encrypted.
[01:37] <ancaster> ah
[01:37] <bwayne> a moment ago i lost ability to play sound. i did my usual debug routine (google, etc). finally i decided to do the "rescue system" from the ubuntu cd. was it coincidence or did the system rescue actually fix my sound?
[01:37] <bwayne> is it designed to perform that sort of fix?
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[01:38] <Kalel> kostkon: Apparently has not a fix..
[01:38] <ancaster> kristenbb: never dealt with this situation... when you say "log in", I suppose you mean log in via password?
[01:39] <Zutara> wilee-nilee, I'm in there now, but there's only 1/10 the amount of people as compared to here. Figured I'd come here and get support as Elementary is based off of 12.10.
[01:39] <kostkon> Kalel, you could try adding the quirk in alsa base conf and then reboot
[01:39] <wilee-nilee> Zutara, understandable except it is not supported here is all, look up mounting your command is wrong
[01:40] <Kalel> kostkon: How can I do it?
[01:40] <kostkon> Kalel, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/alsa-driver/+bug/580233/comments/8
[01:40] <Zutara> OK.
[01:41] <kostkon> Kalel, just open the file like this:  gksudo gedit /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf or if that does not work, give sudo nano /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf  then press ctrl+x to save it.
[01:41] <ancaster> kristenbb: just reading up on this. one solution is to force sshd to look in an unencrypted folder for your key files
[01:42] <Kalel> kostkon: Just open and close?
[01:42] <kostkon> Kalel, add the lines first obviously :P
[01:42] <kostkon> Kalel, the 3 lines of the quirk
[01:42] <kostkon> Kalel, then save the file, then close the editor and then reboot your system
[01:43] <Kalel> kostkon: I will try follow this guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Audio/InstallingLinuxAlsaDriverModules  - To update the modules.
[01:43] <kostkon> Kalel, no. try the quirk first. don't overcomplicate it
[01:44] <Kalel> ok
[01:44] <kostkon> Kalel, just add these 3 lines in the conf file.
[01:44] <kostkon> those, im not gonna paste them here ok :P
[01:45] <kostkon> Kalel, what's the laptop model
[01:45] <Freeder> Hi, I'd love to get some ideas on an implementation question we have- I'm looking to implement a cron file that checks if a process is running, and restarts it if it is not. Should that code be 100% contained in the cron file, or should the cron file call another script that checks if it is running, and then call the actual execution file- what are your thoughts on the pros and cons?
[01:45] <Kalel> kostkon: HP Pavilion DV6 6190
[01:45] <Kalel> kostkon: BR for me, and US for your
[01:46] <kostkon> Kalel, good, im talking about these lines
[01:46] <kostkon> #Quirks for dv6-2170us
[01:46] <kostkon> alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
[01:46] <kostkon> alias sound-slot-0 snd-hda-intel
[01:46] <kostkon> options snd-hda-intel model=dell-m4-1 enable_msi=1
[01:46] <ssfdre38> what is better PPTP or L2TP
[01:46] <kostkon> you made me flood the channel :/
[01:46] <bwayne> Freeder: having the cron file call the script is how I approach it.
[01:46] <ssfdre38> if you say openVPN, i have that already
[01:47] <ancaster> Freeder: same. then you can test your script without having to monkey with cron
[01:47] <kostkon> Kalel, br us what?
[01:48] <Kalel> :-) Thank you kostkon. I will reboot to try. -- Is to sufix of the model line. BR is Brazil and US for United States. Therefore, the same PC
[01:48] <kostkon> Kalel, add the suffix where exactly?
[01:48] <Freeder> bwayne: so the cron file would just be 'bash checkproc.sh' , and do everything in checkproc.sh, not checkproc.cron ?
[01:48] <kostkon> Kalel, oh ok ok
[01:48] <Freeder> and ancaster ^ :)
[01:49] <bwayne> Freeder: let me check mine real quick.
[01:49] <Kalel> kostkon: HP's thing.. Eg. dv6 6190br - dv6 6190us - Just the country...
[01:49] <Freeder> the original plan was to have checkproc.cron contain {is code running, if yes exit, if no restart}, but the new plan is to have checkproc.cron contain {isitrunning.sh && restartcode.sh} ... does that agree with what you're saying?
[01:49] <Kalel> kostkon: Thank you again.
[01:49] <kostkon> Kalel, yeah got it. sorry about that
[01:49] <ancaster> ancaster: yes.  and if you make your shell script executable and have the magic first line, then you don't need to call bash
[01:50] <kostkon> Kalel, no probs
[01:50] <ancaster> Freeder: I'm now talking to myself, it seems. :-)
[01:50] <Freeder> I saw :P
[01:50] <Freeder> ok.
[01:51] <Freeder> still anxious to see what bwayne has as well
[01:52] <mitch-_> how do i make a bootable usb of NOT ubuntu from within ubuntu
[01:52] <cfhowlett> mitch-_, you mean a different distro?
[01:52] <mitch-_> of anything
[01:52] <mitch-_> i have SBS2011 that i nee dto make a bootable usb
[01:52] <bwayne> Freeder: yeah, that's what I'm doing. I've got a 'start_daemon' script which takes nice parameters etc as well as the name of the command.
[01:52] <wilee-nilee> mitch-_ handfuls of usb loaders
[01:52] <mitch-_> i have the ISO and i need to make bootable
[01:52] <cfhowlett> mitch-_, linux usb can usually be done with unetbootin
[01:52] <bwayne> Freeder: i'm hardly add things to cron so I always have to go back and check how I'm doing it. :)
[01:53] <Freeder> no worries
[01:53] <mitch-_> cfhowlett, any will work. one that is quick and easy
[01:53] <Freeder> but now i wonder if i misspoke
[01:53] <mitch-_> unetbootin, i'm even ok with CLI but. i need to expand the iso onto the USB i guess
[01:53] <Freeder> when I said cron file, that is what we refer to it here as... not a crontab file
[01:53] <mitch-_> is unetbootin free?
[01:54] <mitch-_> slash easy?
[01:54] <cfhowlett> mitch-_, yes/yes
[01:54] <Freeder> bwayne: do you call start_daemon from your crontab? or do you call a script, which then calls start_daemon?
[01:54] <mitch-_> you win
[01:54] <mitch-_> apt-get'ing now
[01:54] <mitch-_> :D
[01:54] <cfhowlett> mitch-_, and you do NOT expand the iso.  unetbootin will copy it over and set up the USB for booting
[01:54] <mitch-_> cfhowlett, thank you!
[01:54] <mitch-_> haha
[01:55] <mitch-_> i like the capital "not"
[01:55] <mitch-_> basically a "don't do that moron!"
[01:55] <mitch-_> i was using that as a term.... a way of explaining how my mind sees it
[01:55] <bwayne> Freeder: start_daemon is a script itself. So I use cron to call a script, in essence.
[01:55] <mitch-_> "derp" basically
[01:55] <Freeder> right
[01:56] <deitarion> Does anyone here know how to get enable the network cgroups support on 12.04 LTS? I'm told it'll let me virtualize routing tables but all the instructions I've found for setting up cgroups just assume that the default loadout will include whatever cgroups functionality the guide covers.
[01:57] <Freeder> so the argument/discussion we're having now is, should the script called by cron have all the check and restart code in it, or should it call {checkprocess.sh && restartprocess.sh}
[01:57] <mitch-_> so it definitely freaked me out with the distro part but i think it does seem fairly easy......
[01:57] <mitch-_> cfhowlett, you win!
[01:57] <mitch-_> well
[01:57] <cfhowlett> mitch-_, not to worry, just wanted to make sure.  unetbootin is pretty much point and shoot.
[01:57] <mitch-_> you win an e-hug
[01:57] <mitch-_> *hug*
[01:57]  * cfhowlett ... le blush
[01:57] <mitch-_> haha
[01:57] <Kalel> kostkon: Hey, worked, changed to headphones when plugged, Otherwise, I've to change manually to 'Surround' from 'Stereo' or doesn't work..
[01:58] <kostkon> Kalel, hmm, it should remember that choice. try again now that you have set it to stereo
[01:58] <bwayne> Freeder: my implementation would be a single script which first tests the process to see if it exists and then to launch the process if it isn't.
[01:58] <mitch-_> cfhowlett, so this will boot on a winders machine righT?
[01:58] <mitch-_> i plug it in, it's a "bootable usb" and goes on from there
[01:58] <Kalel> kostkon: I changed to surround. Default is stereo.
[01:59] <Freeder> bwayne: thank you.
[01:59] <fellayaboy> i wanna install ubuntu onto a usb drive...how can i have it so that ubuntu boots in terminal first
[01:59] <kostkon> Kalel, oh yeah i misread
[01:59] <cfhowlett> mitch-_, bootable is bootable.  the machine doesn't care if it's windows or not so longs as it's bootable.  BUT you do need to tell the machine to boot the USB and not from the HD
[01:59] <kostkon> Kalel, it's beats headphones afterall :P
[01:59] <mitch-_> cfhowlett, PS - You should put these instructions on the internet. because "The Google' has nothing for how to make a simple Bootable USB.....
[01:59] <mitch-_> yeah i know that part
[01:59] <Freeder> ancaster ^^ does that match what you said? I think you said have the script called by crontab, call two seperate scripts
[01:59] <cfhowlett> !usb|mitch-
[02:00] <mitch-_> i meant that the OS iso behind the bootable will boot fine. but ok. cool
[02:00] <Kalel> kostkon: Yes...
[02:00] <mitch-_> ubottu, day late and a dollar short mr ubottu, domo-oro-gottu (mr ubottu??)
[02:00] <mitch-_> yessssssssss
[02:01] <ancaster> freeder: nope, just one script. so yes, matches what bwayne does
[02:01] <fellayaboy> is it safe to install ubuntu on a usb stick?
[02:01] <Freeder> thanks
[02:01] <fellayaboy> or will i experience alot of crashes
[02:01] <Freeder> that means I'm right.
[02:01] <Freeder> :)
[02:01] <ancaster> :-)
[02:01] <dr_willis> fellayaboy:  i do that all the time
[02:01] <mitch-_> cfhowlett, seriously. thank you. life saver
[02:01] <ancaster> what could go wrong?
[02:01] <Kalel> kostkon: I think I should update the modules..
[02:01] <dr_willis> no crashs here
[02:02] <ancaster> (go wrong... go wrong...)
[02:02] <Freeder> any reasoning as to why that method is better than the one script calling two script method?
[02:02] <cfhowlett> mitch-_, have fun, be safe
[02:02] <Kalel> Doesn't work nothing now.
[02:02] <kostkon> Kalel, ok, if you think it is needed
[02:02] <fellayaboy> dr_willis but im not talking about an installer.. or a live usb.... im talking about completely intalling using the ubunt installer...
[02:02] <cfhowlett> fellayaboy, worst thing could be your usb crashes.  rare but possible.  get a new one.
[02:02] <dr_willis> fellayaboy:  i do that all the time     .... a full normal  install
[02:02] <Kalel> kostkon: yep.. I can try. Its reversible anyway.
[02:02] <fellayaboy> oh ok cool
[02:02] <ancaster> freeder: no, but unless i need to, i'll just keep things simple in one script
[02:03] <kostkon> Kalel, go for it then ok
[02:03] <ancaster> easy enough to refactor into two scripts later if needed
[02:03] <fellayaboy> which distro is the best ...where the windows environment is super light... idk if unity will hold up on some pc's i ahve
[02:03] <dr_willis> !lubuntu
[02:03] <fellayaboy> nice
[02:04] <cfhowlett> fellayaboy, lubuntu and xubuntu are both optimized for lower spec and older machines
[02:04] <dr_willis> thats the lighest desktop
[02:04] <fellayaboy> nice
[02:04] <dr_willis> xubuntu has more features
[02:04] <fellayaboy> thank you so much..ok so how can i set it up after installation to boot into terminal environment first...and if i enter X it will boot up x environment
[02:04] <cfhowlett> fellayaboy, and xubuntu is the foundation of ubuntustudio, mature
[02:04] <dr_willis> !text
[02:04] <fellayaboy> cool thanks cfhowlett
[02:05] <fellayaboy> nice thank u
[02:05] <Kalel> kostkon: There we go. Soon I'll come to tell.
[02:06] <kostkon> Kalel, wish you the best :P
[02:06] <Kalel> kostkon: Same fella.
[02:06] <fellayaboy> u too kalel
[02:07] <Kalel> kostkon: same to you.. ^
[02:07] <mitch-_> cfhowlett, NEVER! mauhahahhahahahahahahaah *beer induced rampage!* *eats sandwich*
[02:07] <Kalel> hehe..
[02:07] <fellayaboy> lol
[02:07] <kostkon> Kalel, ;)
[02:07] <bwayne> Freeder: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6135344/
[02:07]  * cfhowlett ... thinks "Sir, step away from the espresso!"
[02:08] <bwayne> Freeder: taken from Archlinux wiki
[02:08] <Freeder> thanks
[02:08] <wilee-nilee> the caffeinated user
[02:09] <cfhowlett> wilee-nilee, not sure that wasn't a Team Fortress 2 references @ "sandwich"
[02:09] <wilee-nilee> ah I'm not a gamer, over or under my head. ;)
[02:11] <mitch-_> no guys.... i just made a sandwich
[02:11] <mitch-_> i'm fixing an SBS2011 server so i needed a bootable USB
[02:11] <mitch-_> and ubuntu left me hangin on that one
[02:11] <mitch-_> you saved the day
[02:11] <mitch-_> i've had a few beers so
[02:11] <mitch-_> i made a sandwich
[02:11] <cfhowlett> mitch-_, wait, SERVER?  ubuntu-server for the win!
[02:11] <mitch-_> ham
[02:11] <FloodBot1> mitch-_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:11] <mitch-_> ha
[02:12] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-server|mitch-_,
[02:12] <mitch-_> D: a flood. you BIATCH! D:
[02:13] <mitch-_> and. ham
[02:13] <mitch-_> cfhowlett, sadly no... this is a winders server. :(
[02:14] <mitch-_> i like ubuntu as a backend much better. i run it daily but. for his business..... SBS made more sense
[02:21] <mitch-_> cfhowlett, agh that didn't work.... any other suggestion?
[02:21] <cfhowlett> mitch-_, unetbootin failed?  disappointing.  ask again in channel but be aware the question itself is heretical ...
[02:22] <mitch-_> well. it made a bootable disc but the ISO behind it failed
[02:22] <mitch-_> so
[02:22] <mitch-_> it says "bootable USB" and then you boot to it and it just sais "unetbootin"
[02:22] <mitch-_> and i said D:
[02:22] <cfhowlett> mitch-_, best to use windows to make the disk.  There IS a windows usb tool from micro$oft online
[02:23] <wilee-nilee> mitch-_, What is the distro on the iso?
[02:23] <aeaglez> its a image file
[02:24] <mitch-_> wilee-nilee, aeaglez yeah. it's just an ISO
[02:24] <mitch-_> it's not a distro
[02:24] <mitch-_> :|
[02:24] <mitch-_> it's an ISO of Small Business Sever 2011.
[02:24] <wilee-nilee> mitch-_, image of, and what format?
[02:25] <aeaglez> oh by the way wilee-nilee, thank you for the help last time i got the internet working very smoothly
[02:25] <wilee-nilee> cool
[02:25] <mitch-_> wilee-nilee, Small Business Server 2011 Standard and...... format is ISO of the disc
[02:26] <Codex_> hello
[02:26] <mitch-_> hi
[02:26] <Codex_> I need help installing the raid drivers on ubuntu
[02:26] <cfhowlett> codex, greetings
[02:26] <mitch-_> codex, bye
[02:26] <codex> different codex
[02:26] <mitch-_> jp
[02:26] <cfhowlett> codex, raid is usually a server type thing ...   #ubuntu-server
[02:26] <Codex_> I have two disks in raid 0 and need to get data off them
[02:27] <codex> Codex_: ^ please don't piss off the bots b/c I get to hear about it later :)
[02:27] <Codex_> ?
[02:27] <mitch-_> Codex_, he's a bot too. ignore him
[02:27] <Codex_> ok lol
[02:28] <aeaglez> lol
[02:28] <codex> Codex_: #ubuntu: <@FloodBot1> Codex_: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't  use Enter as punctuation.
[02:28] <codex> stuff like that
[02:28] <Codex_> what?
[02:28] <Codex_> was this earlier?
[02:28] <codex> yes
[02:28] <Espresso2> How to talk to HOT women and get their number fast! http://c1003644-5fz4qezqzo5ny0e00.hop.clickbank.net/
[02:29] <Codex_> like yesterday?
[02:29] <codex> sound right
[02:29] <codex> for some reason I get a lot of your conversations ;)
[02:29] <Codex_> so im guessing your not a bot?
[02:29] <aeaglez> ruby is the programming language for ubuntu right?
[02:29] <aeaglez> ruby and python?
[02:29] <codex> no i am not  a bot...
[02:29] <Codex_> haha ok
[02:32] <Codex_> does any one here know what packages I need for raid?
[02:33] <wilee-nilee> !raid
[02:34] <Codex_> cheers
[02:34] <Codex_> im guessing I need the software raid
[02:34] <reisio> Codex_: what do you want raid for?
[02:35] <Codex_> I have 2 SSDs in raid 0 and need to mount them
[02:36] <reisio> why do you have 2 ssds in raid 0
[02:37] <codex> Codex_: mdadm
[02:37] <Codex_> windows is installed on them but I have been locked out and need to modify bootloader
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> the windows bootloader from ubuntu?
[02:38] <Codex_> no, windows 8 BCD
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> from ubuntu?
[02:38] <Codex_> yes
[02:38] <wilee-nilee> bad idea
[02:39] <mitch-_> LOL
[02:39] <Codex_> I can run freeBCD in wine to fix it
[02:39] <cfhowlett> Codex_, not adviseable
[02:39] <cfhowlett> Codex_, suggest you use windows tools to fix windows
[02:39] <Codex_> codex: will mdadm mean I can mount raid volumes?
[02:40] <Codex_> cfhowlett: haha tried that
[02:40] <codex> Codex_: yes unless they were encrypted
[02:40] <wilee-nilee> I must say I think I have seen it all now, lol
[02:40] <codex> or if they use some jbod crap
[02:41] <Codex_> ok, I just install mdadm package right?
[02:41] <codex> Codex_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1776909
[02:41] <codex> take a look at that. Same problem that you are trying to solve
[02:42] <Codex_> ok thanks
[02:42] <codex> some people claim it can't be done -- and maybe that's new to windows 8
[02:44] <Codex_> ah
[02:44] <codex> it doesn't hurt to try. As long as you don't write anything to the mount (or mount in read-only) you can't screw it up
[02:45] <Codex_> ok
[02:46] <Spart> hello
[02:46] <siriusy> hi all
[02:46] <Codex_> how do I find out the name of the md device
[02:47] <mitch-_> media device?
[02:47] <mitch-_> Codex_, try lspci
[02:48] <codex>  probably /dev/md0, md1, etc...
[02:48] <Spart> I've got a question.  I'm trying to set up a dual-boot with Win8 via a USB drive, but when I try to install, I'm told I don't have any other OS on the machine.  I rebooted and checked my Win8 still works.
[02:49] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | Spart
[02:49] <Codex_> so,   mdadm --assemble /dev/mdo, /dev/md1
[02:49] <Codex_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6135444/
[02:50] <mitch-_> she got the POWA of the hooche!  I got the feva for the flava of the COOCHA!!!!
[02:51] <mitch-_> yeah 90
[02:51] <codex> Codex_: see pm
[02:51] <mitch-_> 's.... damn fat fingers.... sorry about that.
[02:51] <Spart> ubottu:  I've already got it booted.  It's when it asks me to how to install I only have two options: erase disk and install, and something else.  There's no side-by-side option.
[02:52] <MsSayian> Where does the configurations for the network get stored if you use the Network Manager GUI?
[02:52] <moorvogi> hay all. a couple days ago i installed ssmtp and i think i screwed somethng up. now i get emails about every 20 minutes but dont see it in the crontab. anyone know how to figure out whats causing it based on the emails?
[02:52] <wilee-nilee> Spart, did you read the bots link?
[02:52] <Spart> Sorry wilee-nilee:  I've already got it booted.  It's when it asks me to how to install I only have two options: erase disk and install, and something else.  There's no side-by-side option.
[02:52] <Spart> Ya.
[02:53] <wilee-nilee> Spart, then you are not setup correctly
[02:53] <Spart> It's in the dialogue - first pic - that I don't get three options.
[02:53] <Spart> Okay, so what's wrong then?
[02:53] <wilee-nilee> Spart, Are you aware that you have uefi and it is gpt?
[02:54] <Spart> I thought I had BIOS?
[02:54] <MsSayian> @moorvogi is it still sending emails currently like right now as i am typing?
[02:55] <moorvogi> @MsSayian yes, i'll get one w/in the next 20 minutes
[02:55] <MsSayian> @moorvogi. Is this for home use or enterprise use?
[02:56] <moorvogi> @MsSayian /usr/share/sendmail/sendmail: 899: /usr/share/sendmail/sendmail: /usr/sbin/sendmail-msp: not found
[02:56] <moorvogi> home. i have a lab setup at home. learning how things work
[02:56] <moorvogi> haha failing. .but learning :P
[02:56] <wilee-nilee> Spart, you do it is different with uefi though, and uefi is not really many peoples forte here, certainly not mine, I would suggest reading the link and looking at this thread, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[02:56] <MsSayian> @moorvogi run a service --status-all and see if sendmail if running if it is turn it off.
[02:57] <Spart> wilee-nilee:  Okay, thanks.
[02:57] <wilee-nilee> Spart, do yourself a favor and backup the W8 if it means anything to you first.
[02:57] <moorvogi> @MsSayian the [ + ] indicates it's running?
[02:58] <moorvogi> @mssayian i ran service sendmail stop and it says it's stopping but i ran the status again and it still has the + by it ><
[02:59] <MsSayian> hmmmmm
[02:59] <moorvogi>  * Stopping Mail Transport Agent (MTA) sendmail                          [ OK ]
[02:59] <moorvogi> but retains the +
[02:59] <MsSayian> @moorvogi I going to think maybe a child process went bad
[03:00] <moorvogi> tick.. hehe just got another one :P
[03:00] <moorvogi> email is.. Cron <smmsp@hostname> test -x /etc/init.d/sendmail && /usr/share/sendmail/sendmail cron-msp
[03:02] <MsSayian> @moorvogi so you made a cron script to send the mail, and it will turn the service on to send the mail based upon the setting. I believe you have it setup as that.
[03:02] <urzg> MsSayian, hi
[03:02] <MsSayian> @urzg hi?
[03:03] <moorvogi> fair enough, but i'm not seeing anything in crontab -e ahh but i see one in /etc/init.d..
[03:04] <MsSayian> @moorvoogi you said every 20 minutes right
[03:04] <moorvogi> it seemed like it yah
[03:04] <moorvogi> we'll know in.. 16 minutes
[03:04] <urzg> moorvogi,  are you Indian/
[03:04] <urzg> ?
[03:05] <moorvogi> i KNOW it was more than 1 hour
[03:05] <urzg> moor seems Indian :p
[03:05] <moorvogi> no.. born in iowa
[03:05] <moorvogi> moorvogi == i go vroom .. spelled backwards
[03:05] <urzg> ahh
[03:05] <moorvogi> motorcycle rider :D
[03:05] <urzg> :D
[03:05] <MsSayian> @moorvogi i would say check the /etc/cron and check daily hourly monthly and weekly
[03:06] <MsSayian> @moorvogi see what is in there find your script and delete it.
[03:06] <MsSayian> @moorvogi if it is a root crontab script you need to sudo crontab -e
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[03:06] <moorvogi> see.. i dont recall making one haha thats the tricky part. it's not in sudo crontab -e though
[03:06] <moorvogi> i'll check the /etc/init...
[03:07] <MsSayian> @moorvogi check the daily hourly monthly and weekly within /etc for cron as well
[03:08] <moorvogi> this ubuntu is.. about 24 hours old. only init, init.d and initramfs-tools  no other folders yielded from ll | grep init in /etc
[03:08] <ancaster> hey all. What's the best practice around having a localadmin user that's able to login when NIS goes down?
[03:08] <MsSayian> @moorvogi and if im reading your script correctly try running a locate for cron-msp
[03:08] <ancaster> just adding a local user to my box doesn't work... logins still hang for a good several minutes
[03:09] <moorvogi> nada. no cron-msp
[03:10] <MsSayian> @moorvogi run a top to see what process is calling sendmail, maybe if you didnt kill the root process it is still spawning child processes to send mail
[03:13] <moorvogi> @MsSayian i'm runnin top but, i'm not really sure how to tell what is calling sendmail (though i dont see sendmail in the list eaither) (hitting google quick)
[03:14] <wilee-nilee> MsSayian, moorvogi Might help to know you can tab complete nicks here, @ is not commonly used.
[03:14] <moorvogi> SWEET MOTHER!
[03:14] <MsSayian> @moorvogi or the last option if it really isnt working my last idea killall sendmail. Thanks wilee-nilee I'm not used to the irc here my other irc didnt support it.
[03:15] <MsSayian> moorvogi:  or killall cron or crontab i forgot how it is ran
[03:16] <gauranga_> urzg: hola
[03:16] <urzg> hey
[03:17] <urzg> gauranga im testing if pm is owrking
[03:17] <urzg> working
[03:17] <urzg> can u reply
[03:17] <urzg> ?
[03:17] <FloodBot1> urzg: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[03:17] <gauranga_> its working
[03:17] <urzg> ok
[03:20] <xeeder> hi there, i have been using ubuntu 12.04 LTS for the last couple of days on my laptop and one thing which i have noticed is that: the battery timing sucks!!
[03:20] <moorvogi> MsSayian: no joy but i'll keep digging to see what else it might be. fun times!
[03:20] <xeeder> is there anything i can do? like power save in windows (in power settings) or something like that?
[03:21] <xeeder> please help
[03:21] <MsSayian> moorvogi: Those where my only answers.
[03:21] <moorvogi> MsSayian: more than i had 20 minutes ago. thanks for trying!
[03:21] <josephmudloff> xeeder: have you read the pm-utils documentation?
[03:21] <xeeder> no; should i? josephmudloff
[03:22] <josephmudloff> Yes! -- Or, even do a google search for pm-utils usage.
[03:22] <MsSayian> xeeder: If you click on the dash home and if you type system settings you can edit when you can send and what you can do when the power is low. Also go to the brightness and lock tab, and reduce the brightness that should save some power as well.
[03:23] <xeeder> all i want is to atleast have a reasonable battery timing; its ridiculously low! :/
[03:24] <josephmudloff> Timing? Do you mean increase the life of your battery?
[03:24] <bwayne> xeeder: battery meters are often very inaccurate, and need to be recalibrated from time to time, even from a hardware level. you can read this for some more info. it seems to be a universal problem. --> http://lifehacker.com/130735/how-to-recalibrate-your-laptop-battery
[03:24] <josephmudloff> Preach it, bwayne.
[03:24] <xeeder> have you used windows?  there is a power save option which works very well for me; i expected to have that option available in ubuntu too :/
[03:25] <MsSayian> xeeder: If you click on the dash home and if you type system settings you can edit when you can send and what you can do when the power is low. Also go to the brightness and lock tab, and reduce the brightness that should save some power as well.
[03:25] <josephmudloff> Number one benefit -- bring the brightness of your display down.
[03:25] <xeeder> MsSayian, i am doing that....
[03:26] <josephmudloff> You can customize power profiles in Ubuntu, as well. Might be dependent on your desktop enviornment, so search google for lxde power save or xfce power save, or whatever environment you're using.
[03:26] <moorvogi> MsSayian: i'm sure it has somethign to do with ssmtp at this point. i'm logged on as a diffrent user (that doesn't have a gmail account) and it's barking about accountname@gmail.com i think i have ssmtp configured poorly as this problem began shortly after that was installed :D
[03:26] <xeeder> josephmudloff,  its simple ubuntu; one that comes by default (ONE i think)
[03:26] <josephmudloff> xeeder: And, make sure that your BIOS options for CPU throttling are set correctly.
[03:27] <josephmudloff> I
[03:27] <josephmudloff> I'm not sure what that is -- Unity, perhaps? So, search Unity power management.
[03:27] <xeeder> josephmudloff,  BIOS options are default; i never tried changing any of that
[03:28] <xeeder> josephmudloff,  yeah unity it is
[03:28] <MsSayian> moorvogi: Your getting closer is there something like ssmtp.conf?
[03:28] <josephmudloff> NEVER trust factory-shipped defaults - you need to see what the settings are by entering the BIOS utility at startup, to make sure it's set correctly. Or, at least, the way you want it set.
[03:28] <moorvogi> aye. i'm looking at the config now /etc/ssmtp/ssmtp.conf :D
[03:29] <josephmudloff> Chances are, your BIOS settings will be set correctly, but it's good to check. After that, it's
[03:29] <Clank|Tab> !kubuntu
[03:29] <josephmudloff> just a matter of finding the Unity power management applet and tweaking it from there.
[03:29] <Clank|Tab> !kde
[03:29] <bwayne> xeeder: cpufreq-set -g powersave
[03:29] <Clank|Tab> !lxde
[03:29] <Clank|Tab> Heh, cool
[03:30] <null_dev> Can anyone help me? I'm trying to download a podcast, but with Apples insistence on keeping iTunes unavailable on Linux, I don't know how without having to use VMware to get their software, and as far as I've heard it doesn't work well online. Is there another way to do this? Apple doesn't seem to have web interface available.
[03:30] <bwayne> null_dev: have a look at gPodder.
[03:30] <cfhowlett> null_dev, as you see, apple doesn't play nice.
[03:31] <cfhowlett> !itunes
[03:31] <null_dev> cfhowlett Yes, fuck Apple.
[03:31] <josephmudloff> Apple seems to like playing under the old
[03:31] <null_dev> bwayne Thanks!
[03:31] <josephmudloff> AOL rules.
[03:31] <wilee-nilee> !language | null_dev
[03:31] <null_dev> I'm really sorry, I slipped up.
[03:31] <xeeder> bwayne, what this will do? it seems to me that cpufreq will be set on low; but i want that to happen on battery not while i am using AC
[03:33] <bwayne> xeeder: let me see if there's a gui or something for you.
[03:33] <xeeder> bwayne,  that will be great! :)
[03:35] <wilee-nilee> xeeder, cpufreq puts a gui icon in the panel.
[03:35] <xeeder> wilee-nilee,  should i install it then?
[03:35] <wilee-nilee> there is also indicator-cpufreq
[03:36] <wilee-nilee> might be the same
[03:36] <wilee-nilee> xeeder, run sudo apt-get install indicator-cpufreq and it should be in the panel
[03:37] <urzg> hm
[03:38] <wilee-nilee> urzg, Stop asking people if they are indian, all you did was change your nick
[03:38] <urzg> wilee-nilee,  orry
[03:38] <xeeder> wilee-nilee,  i have also installed laptop mode tools
[03:38] <urzg> wehn did I ask?
[03:38] <urzg> but
[03:38] <urzg> yeah
[03:38] <urzg> Sorry
[03:39] <phogg> enter is not punctuation
[03:39] <bwayne> xeeder: do you mind using a ppa?
 moorvogi,  are you Indian/
[03:39] <urzg> hmm
[03:39] <urzg> Oh yeah sorry about that wilee-nilee  . It reminded me of a food
[03:39] <wilee-nilee> urzg, You are not sorry stop it.
[03:39] <xeeder> bwayne,  if it solves the problem; sure!
[03:40] <bwayne> xeeder: are you familiar with adding a ppa?
[03:40] <urzg> ok
[03:40] <wilee-nilee> xeeder, I'm not familiar with those tools.
[03:40] <urzg> Also anyone here use Xchat Gnome/
[03:40] <moorvogi> MsSayian: .. no spammy emails yet!
[03:40] <urzg> whats the diffeerence between that and regular xchat ?
[03:41] <andokito> hi!
[03:41] <xeeder> bwayne, i do know how to install package; if thats what you mean
[03:42] <anonee> following this http://www.webupd8.org/2009/02/ubuntu-internet-connection-sharing.html I did sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ethX -j MASQUERADE but I typed eth0 instead of wlan0 and then I repeated the step with wlan0. how do I fix it?
[03:42] <xeeder> i have searched a bit and found this for power management: https://01.org/powertop/
[03:42] <bwayne> xeeder: check my private message
[03:43] <urgodfather> hello, how can i configure a program to launch at startup?
[03:43] <wilee-nilee> urgodfather, There is startup applications
[03:44] <wilee-nilee> urgodfather, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup
[03:44] <urgodfather> i know that much, i just never configured one before
[03:44] <gavinguo> urgodfather, put the script in rc.local?
[03:46] <wilee-nilee> urgodfather, here is the populating the startup app info as well it is empty by default. http://askubuntu.com/questions/69810/how-do-i-add-remove-the-hidden-startup-applications
[03:46] <gavinguo> wilee-nilee, do you know how to close the lcd manually?
[03:47] <wilee-nilee> gavinguo, lcd manually?
[03:47] <gavinguo> wilee-nilee, turn off the backlight
[03:48] <wilee-nilee> gavinguo, Not really, I just use sleep in general.
[03:48] <wilee-nilee> err suspend
[03:48] <anonee> following this http://www.webupd8.org/2009/02/ubuntu-internet-connection-sharing.html I did sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o ethX -j MASQUERADE but I typed eth0 instead of wlan0 and then I repeated the step with wlan0. how do I fix it? and another question: can I just replace dnsmasq with dnsmasq-base without having to change any of the other steps?
[03:49] <urgodfather> ok, so it looks like i need to make this program able to run via terminal first
[03:50] <gavinguo> wilee-nilee, sometime I need to turn off the backlight to enlarge the battery power.
[03:51] <gavinguo> wilee-nilee, and the system is still running some apps like irc, etc.
[03:54] <gavinguo> urgodfather, put it to rc.local can't work?
[03:55] <urgodfather> i dont get what you mean by put it in rc.local
[03:55] <wilee-nilee> gavinguo, I have never had to do that so not the best help in that, I would just turn down the brightness, finding a on off that works consistently might be a challenge.
[04:00] <anonee> I typed $ sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE instead of $ sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o wlan0 -j MASQUERADE how to inverse that?
[04:02] <Geeky_Vin> Hi, thr I need some help setting up a home sever in my old laptop for deploy a java web app, can anyone help me. pls.
[04:05] <wilee-nilee> Geeky_Vin, Kinda slow here you might consider #ubuntu-server
[04:07] <Geeky_Vin> ok, wilee-nilee, thanks. ;)
[04:07] <oaulakh> how to reset ubuntu as fresh installation
[04:08] <cfhowlett> oaulakh, details.
[04:08] <oaulakh> what details you need
[04:08] <cfhowlett> !details|oaulakh,
[04:08] <oaulakh> ubuntu version 13.04
[04:08] <Isara> :)
[04:09] <oaulakh> problem with  installing packaget from apt-get
[04:09] <cfhowlett> oaulakh, "problem" ...
[04:09] <oaulakh> problem was start ocurring when i was installing rpm
[04:10] <oaulakh> with command "apt-get install rpm"
[04:10] <cfhowlett> oaulakh, rpm?  redhat package manager?  THAT rpm?
[04:10] <oaulakh> and stop it in half with pressing ctrl +z
[04:11] <oaulakh> yeah thats rpm
[04:11] <cfhowlett> oaulakh, so you half installed it and killed it midway?
[04:11] <oaulakh> yeah
[04:11] <oaulakh> i killed the process in middway
[04:12] <cfhowlett> oaulakh, no need to "reset" ubuntu.  sudo apt-get purge rpm will remove it
[04:12] <oaulakh> and after that i see nothing going to install on ubuntu
[04:12] <oaulakh> if i use that apt-get
[04:12] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh, using rpm is a bad idea as well.
[04:13] <oaulakh> it show me to some directory like dpkg not accesiable
[04:13] <cfhowlett> wilee-nilee, please advise if you (probably) know more than I.  I'm guessing dpkg lock?
[04:13] <oaulakh> but some packages are only availaible in rpm
[04:13] <oaulakh> like xchat
[04:13] <cfhowlett> oaulakh, improper shutdown of apt = dpkg lock.  normal.  "reset ubuntu" not required.
[04:13] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh, run sudo apt-get update and pastebin it.
[04:14] <cfhowlett> oaulakh, what?  xchat is a firefox addon and IS available in ubuntu!
[04:14] <wilee-nilee> cfhowlett, I would guess locked yeah.
[04:14] <xeeder> i am getting this error: i.imgur.com/iEnz1PU.png anybody knows how to solve this?
[04:15] <oaulakh> when i configure xchat from source
[04:15] <cfhowlett> oaulakh, xchat is in the ubuntu "universe" repository.
[04:15] <oaulakh> i shows some problem with glib
[04:15] <cfhowlett> !xcht
[04:15] <cfhowlett> !xchat
[04:15] <cfhowlett> oaulakh, why configure from source?  sudo apt-get install xchat
[04:16] <cfhowlett> !dpkg lock
[04:16] <cfhowlett> !dpkg-lock
[04:16] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh, Can we assume you have some what Frankenstein'd your setup
[04:16] <oaulakh> not working "sudo apt-get install xchat"
[04:16] <constantine> ?
[04:17] <cfhowlett> oaulakh, for the record "not working" tells us NOTHING.  error messages matter.
[04:17] <oaulakh> wait i'm going to again boot ubuntu
[04:17] <xeeder> i am getting this error: i.imgur.com/iEnz1PU.png please help...
[04:17]  * cfhowlett ... facepalms directly into the keyboard 0p9u3-09u;dfa
[04:18] <oaulakh> well see in some time
[04:19] <dc4> *echo echo echo*
[04:19] <dc4> echo
[04:20] <dc4> 1
[04:20] <anonee> I typed $ sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o eth0 -j MASQUERADE instead of $ sudo iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o wlan0 -j MASQUERADE how to inverse that?
[04:21] <xeeder> i installed Jupiter (battery saving application) and when i try to configure it, i get this error: i.imgur.com/iEnz1PU.png please help...
[04:22] <gavinguo> is there anyone know how to config sound under xchat-gnome?
[04:22] <gavinguo> I've no sound under xchat & gtalk.
[04:22] <fuzk> ugh
[04:22] <fuzk> ubuntu is too much for 500mb ram
[04:22] <fuzk> :/
[04:23] <cfhowlett> fuzk, as stated in the requirements.  try lubuntu or xubuntu.
[04:23] <anonee> do I have to ask this q elsewhere? about iptables?
[04:23] <fuzk> cfhowlett which is best
[04:24] <cfhowlett> fuzk, both are optimized for older/lower spec machines.  xubuntu is a bit more mature and has long term support with 12.04
[04:24] <fuzk> ok
[04:24] <kostkon> fuzk, you need at least 2gb for a comfortable experience. 1gb is a struggle, 500mb death
[04:26] <fuzk> yeah
[04:26] <anonee> come on please somebody help me!
[04:27] <fuzk> it took me about 6reboots and half an hour to actually do something
[04:27] <cfhowlett> !patience|anonee,
[04:27] <gavinguo> if anyone can ping me to test the sound? ;)
[04:27] <kostkon> gavinguo, what sound options are available in xchat-gnome
[04:28] <gavinguo> kostkon, cool
[04:28] <anonee> cfhowlett thank you...
[04:28] <cfhowlett> anonee, if there's anyone home, I bet the #ubuntu-server channel would know
[04:29] <gavinguo> kostkon, I just enable the sound in the edit-->preferences-->scripts and plugins--> enable sound notification
[04:29] <anonee> cfhowlett thanks I'll try it :)
[04:30] <Territoriojoven> so how do I uninstall it now?
[04:30] <cfhowlett> Territoriojoven, ??? NO idea what you're on about...
[04:31] <oaulakh> back again
[04:31] <oaulakh> how to remove rpm package
[04:31] <cfhowlett> oaulakh, sudo apt-get purge rpm
[04:31] <Territoriojoven> cfhowlett: ubuntu. haw 2 uninstall
[04:31] <cfhowlett> Territoriojoven, how did you install it?
[04:31] <airtondeejay> boa noite
[04:31] <cfhowlett> !uninstall
[04:32] <mitch-_> !botlove
[04:32] <mitch-_> ah man. i thought i had that one for sure.
[04:32] <oaulakh> removed now
[04:32] <cfhowlett> oaulakh, for future reference, killing an apt process before it's finished will almost always cause the dpkg lock you experienced.
[04:32] <kostkon> gavinguo, in xhcat you have the option to define your own program, can you do the same in xchat-gnome: http://ubuntuone.com/513Ar8Ocbca17wM4KNKyjt
[04:32] <airtondeejay> to usando ubuntu studio qual programa pra gravar cd mixado?
[04:33] <cfhowlett> !english|airtondeejay,
[04:33] <oaulakh> okk thanks
[04:33] <oaulakh> now how to install xchat
[04:33] <cfhowlett> oaulakh, and now ... sudo apt-get install xchat
[04:34] <Territoriojoven> oaulakh: xchat is bad, use quassel.ç
[04:34] <cfhowlett> oaulakh, see the pattern :)
[04:34] <oaulakh> it saying me package unavailaible
[04:34] <gavinguo> kostkon, I use xchat-gnoe. If xchat is good to use?
[04:34] <airtondeejay> oi
[04:34] <oaulakh> nowt working
[04:34] <cfhowlett> !behelpful|Territoriojoven,
[04:34] <kostkon> oaulakh, i think xchat is better
[04:35] <kostkon> oops
[04:35] <kostkon> gavinguo, xchat is better
[04:35] <Ari-Yang> oaulakh, install hexchat, it's better than xchat...
[04:35] <kostkon> oaulakh, apt-cache policy xchat
[04:35] <cfhowlett> oaulakh, check your sources ... it's in the universe repo on 12.04
[04:35] <Territoriojoven> ugh
[04:35] <Ari-Yang> oaulakh, https://launchpad.net/~gwendal-lebihan-dev/+archive/hexchat-stable
[04:35] <Ari-Yang> add that ppa than apt-get install hexchat
[04:36] <Territoriojoven> isn't there a !xchat| oaulakh
[04:36] <oaulakh> it all show me unable to locate package
[04:36] <cfhowlett> oaulakh, apt-cache policy xchat will tell you what repo you need to enable to get it
[04:36] <kostkon> !xchat
[04:36] <kostkon> riiight
[04:36] <dr_willis> i honestly cant say ive noticed anything different in hexchat vs xchat
[04:36] <gavinguo> kostkon, can you explain what xchat is beter?
[04:36] <oaulakh> i'm right now using webserver for chatting online
[04:36] <airtondeejay> ola tem alguem que fala portugues ai
[04:36] <Pingu> hello
[04:37] <kostkon> gavinguo, you get more options to tinker with
[04:37] <Territoriojoven> http://quassel-irc.org/node/104
[04:37] <cfhowlett> oaulakh, firefox has irc chat addons
[04:37] <jyhc> can anybody recommend an easy to use, reliable backup utility?
[04:37] <dr_willis> i prefer weechat for my irc needs. ;-)
[04:37] <cfhowlett> !backup
[04:37] <jyhc> preferably something like Time Machine
[04:37] <airtondeejay> oi
[04:37] <cfhowlett> !br|airtondeejay,
[04:37] <Pingu> how do I make it so I can choose the operating system at boot?
[04:37] <cfhowlett> Pingu, depends on how you installed ubuntu
[04:38] <Territoriojoven> well sh1t
[04:38] <airtondeejay> obrigado
[04:38] <Territoriojoven> xubuntu weighs the same as ubuntu
[04:38] <Territoriojoven> i'll ratherrr stick to windows xp
[04:38] <cfhowlett> !language|Territoriojoven,
[04:38] <Pingu> cfhowlett: I installed it on an UEFI partition
[04:38] <oaulakh> if firefox have xchat addon
[04:38] <oaulakh> then thats good
[04:38] <cfhowlett> Pingu, so a dual boot?  no wubi
[04:38] <Pingu> cfhowlett: yes I want the grub to come up
[04:38] <kostkon> oaulakh, not xchat per se but... https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/chatzilla/
[04:39] <cfhowlett> oaulakh, chatzilla is good on firefox
[04:39] <cfhowlett> Pingu, and you also have windows ...
[04:39] <oaulakh> here's the process
[04:39] <oaulakh> of dual boot
[04:39] <Pingu> cfhowlett: I am duel booting windows 8 and ubuntu 12.04.3
[04:39] <oaulakh> because i'm also using dual boot without
[04:39] <oaulakh> wubi
[04:39] <Ari-Yang> Pingu, it's dual, not duel...
[04:40] <cfhowlett> Pingu, got it.  grub should have detected the other OS, but I'm not the one to ask on the UEFI systems.  ask in channel.
[04:40] <dr_willis> except when the 2  os's fight
[04:40] <Pingu> cfhowlett, I installed ubuntu before I installed windows
[04:41] <dr_willis> !fixgrub
[04:41] <cfhowlett> Pingu,  gain, uefi does things a little different but best practice is windows > ubuntu.  fixgrub might be what you want.
[04:41] <Pingu> ubottu, I have grub just the grub menu doesnt show at boot
[04:42] <Pingu> haha
[04:42] <dr_willis> Pingu: rerun update-grub
[04:42] <oaulakh> yeah you right
[04:42] <oaulakh> on for windows
[04:42] <oaulakh> one for windows
[04:42] <oaulakh> hahhaha
[04:42] <FloodBot1> oaulakh: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:42] <oaulakh> and right click on my computer select manage
[04:42] <oaulakh> then boot windows
[04:42] <oaulakh> install windos 8 or 7 whatever you have .... install it on first drive
[04:43] <wilee-nilee> Hehe banned
[04:43] <wilee-nilee> by the bot
[04:43] <cfhowlett> and he was doing so well, too.
[04:43] <wilee-nilee> lol
[04:43] <Pingu> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.8.0-30-generic
[04:44] <Pingu> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.8.0-30-generic
[04:44] <Pingu> Found linux image: /boot/vmlinuz-3.8.0-29-generic
[04:44] <Pingu> Found initrd image: /boot/initrd.img-3.8.0-29-generic
[04:44] <Pingu> Found memtest86+ image: /boot/memtest86+.bin
[04:44] <Pingu>   No volume groups found
[04:44] <Pingu> Adding boot menu entry for EFI firmware configuration
[04:44] <dr_willis> !pastebin | Pingu
[04:46] <Pingu> I guess I should do a restart and see
[04:46] <Pingu> if it worked
[04:47] <xeeder> whats the linux kernel version of ubuntu 12.04 LTS ?
[04:47] <cfhowlett> xeeder, in terminal:   uname -a   will display it
[04:47] <kostkon> latest 12.04.3 iso has 3.8, older installations have 3.2
[04:48] <kostkon> or 3.5
[04:49] <Codex_> hello
[04:49] <Codex_> the grub menu isnt coming up at boot
[04:49] <Ari-Yang> Codex_, did you hold down SHIFT on boot?
[04:50] <Codex_> oh
[04:50] <Codex_> nope :(
[04:50] <Codex_> can I change it so it just comes up without doing anything?
[04:50] <Ari-Yang> Codex_, if that doesn't work then edit /etc/default/grub and comment the line GRUB_HIDDEN_TIMEOUT=0 and uncomment the line GRUB_TIMEOUT= and set it to 10
[04:51] <Ari-Yang> Codex_, after run sudo update-grub in terminal....
[04:51] <Codex_> what will setting hidden timeout to 10 do exactly?
[04:51] <Ari-Yang> Codex_, make it looks like this: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=G8cbYsBp (the file is in /etc/default/grub)
[04:52] <Ari-Yang> Codex_, it will display the grub menu for 10 seconds
[04:52] <Ari-Yang> you can make it less if you want.
[04:52] <cfhowlett> codex, display menu 10 seconds then boot default
[04:54] <xeeder> how can i update kernel? nvidia optimus requires 3.9 and ubuntu 12.04 LTS has 3.8 version
[04:55] <Isara> Xeeder: Read this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel
[04:55] <Isara> HowTo Upgrade or Recompile Kernel
[04:56] <Codex_> ok going to restart
[04:59] <rizal> hallo
[04:59] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/
[05:00] <Ari-Yang> just download the image that is appropriate for your system. AMD64 for 64-bit
[05:01] <Pingu> hello
[05:01] <Pingu> im back
[05:01] <Pingu> cant get the grub menu to come up
[05:01] <Pingu> I have a UEFI partition
[05:02] <Pingu> please help
[05:04] <Pingu> ubottu: hello
[05:04] <wilee-nilee> Pingu, Can you boot windows or ubuntu?
[05:04] <Pingu> yes
[05:04] <Pingu> both
[05:04] <xeeder> can i install any kernel from the given kernel directory??
[05:04] <Pingu> but only from selecting them in bios
[05:05] <Pingu> I want grub so I can choose
[05:05] <xeeder> 48. v3.10.12-saucy/
[05:05] <xeeder> 49. v3.11-saucy/
[05:05] <xeeder> 50. v3.11.1-saucy/
[05:05] <wilee-nilee> Pingu, That may be the best you can do, I have seen people in this same situation, I assume this is from gui's not messing with the bios.
[05:05] <xeeder> i want to install latest one; will it be compatible with ubuntu 12.04 LTS?
[05:06] <wilee-nilee> xeeder, Problem here is that kernels stock to releases are what are supported here only technically.
[05:06] <Pingu> wilee-nilee, well I know the grub is there because otherwise ubuntu would not load
[05:07] <Pingu> I just need to know how to make the grub menu to show
[05:07] <Daejeo> hello guys
[05:07] <wilee-nilee> Pingu, sure, however this uefi thing is a bit of a pickle, you have manufacturers making their own versions. So depending on how you installed may be a difference.
[05:08] <Braun> ibus says the isput  method is off
[05:08] <xeeder> wilee-nilee, "The mainline kernels builds are produced for debugging purposes and therefore come with no support. Use them at your own risk."
[05:08] <wilee-nilee> and
[05:08] <Pingu> wilee-nilee, I agree it isn't really that great
[05:09] <parallels> hello all
[05:09] <Braun> 和快速斯拉夫己内部的分开了发rje
[05:09] <parallels> ?
[05:09] <Pingu> wilee-nilee, I installed both windows and linux in uefi
[05:09] <xeeder> wilee-nilee,  so i shouldnt install the latest kernel :/
[05:09] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, I'm using 3.11 and everything is just fine....
[05:09] <xeeder> Ari-Yang, are you using on 12.04?
[05:09] <Ari-Yang> - OS: Linux 3.11.0-996-generic/x86_64 - Distro: Ubuntu 12.10 -
[05:09] <parallels> I'm running version 12.04 on my iMac on a virtual machine using parallels 8 desktop. how can I upgrade to 13.04?
[05:10] <wilee-nilee> xeeder, Your choice really, I have never seen any claims on optimus needing 3.9 here though.
[05:10] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, I'm running DRM-Next
[05:10] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, latest stable is 3.11.1
[05:10] <rizal> Pingu, have you tried this ? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair
[05:10] <wilee-nilee> parallels, 12.04 has 5 years support, you would have to go through 12.10, personally I never upgrade.
[05:11] <Pingu> parallels, well I would make a copie of your vm incase it goes wrong
[05:12] <Pingu> rizal, having a look now
[05:12] <xeeder> Ari-Yang,  i am not sure if 12.04 will be cool with latest kernel; will it be?
[05:12] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, I can't give a definitive answer. But to be honest, it should be fine :|
[05:13] <Ari-Yang> I've seen people run 12.04 with mainline kernels
[05:13] <rizal> pingu, sorry I am just learning, and I do not really speak English proficient
[05:13] <xeeder> Ari-Yang, i am counting on this :D
[05:13] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, you can always boot into a previous kernel version or uninstall the mainline kernel if you want
[05:13] <parallels> thanks guy.
[05:13] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, why do you want to use a mainline kernel?
[05:13] <Ari-Yang> I'm just curious....
[05:13] <xeeder> Ari-Yang, i want to install latest nvidia driver which requires 3.9 and higher
[05:14] <xeeder> with 3.8 people have reported problems
[05:14] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, ah, okay. Good luck.
[05:14] <shubhamjain> Hi guys. I have tried almost all solutions but the randomly not getting sound card detected has been unsolvable. Any one having the same issue?
[05:14] <parallels> I think I should upgrade to Parallels desktop 9 because it came with version 13.09, but the only thing is it come with a price of $50.
[05:14] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, I installed 3.11 because of DPM (dynamic power management) for open source radeon driver.
[05:14] <rizal> Pingu, i hope this can solved your problem ..
[05:14] <parallels> what's new it's iMac from Apple.
[05:14] <gavinguo> if anyone can ping me again to test the sound? ;)
[05:14] <Ari-Yang> gavinguo
[05:15] <wilee-nilee> gavinguo, huh
[05:15] <gavinguo> Ari-Yang, thanks, great!!
[05:15] <Pingu> rizal, can I run boot-repair within my ubuntu install or do I have to run it from a live disk
[05:15] <Ari-Yang> wille, he wanted to be highlighted.
[05:15] <gavinguo> wilee-nilee, thanks, too.
[05:15] <rizal> from live disk
[05:15] <xeeder> Ari-Yang,  should i go for latest one; or is it too early for that? i mean latest will be unstable or something like that
[05:16] <diverdude> anybody knows a program which canrecord from mic and save to wav file?
[05:16] <rizal> Pingu, from live disk or live flash driver ...
[05:16] <Pingu> rizal, is there a specific reason for that?
[05:16] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, go by this site: https://www.kernel.org/ the latest stable Kernel is 3.11.1, if you want that download from this directory: http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.11.1-saucy/
[05:17] <Pingu> rizal, I jus dont know if I will be able to boot from a live disk becuase last time I tryed I had to unplug all sata cables and remove graphics card
[05:17] <Pingu> *just
[05:17] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, check this page out https://www.kernel.org/category/releases.html kernel 3.10 is LTS
[05:17] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, so it's up to you.
[05:18] <Ari-Yang> either is fine...
[05:18] <xeeder> Ari-Yang, what does this means? >>"will completely disable any way of working with additional hard drives from within Nautilus (Nautilus will show as if there were no hard drives attached to the computer even though they are and you can access them through the terminal)."
[05:18] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, the kernel that in development is 3.12, latest release is 3.12-rc1; RC releases are patch releases.
[05:18] <shubhamjain> diverdude: Not usre but I have heard of SoX.
[05:19] <shubhamjain> s/usre/sure/
[05:19] <Pingu> does anybody know if this will work without live cd https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Boot-Repair ?
[05:19] <xeeder> Ari-Yang, if thats ^ (what i posted in quotes) not a big issue; i am good to go
[05:19] <Nubuntu> Hey guys
[05:20] <Pingu> hey
[05:20] <rizal> Pingu, maybe you can boot with usb ..?
[05:20] <rizal> on live mode
[05:20] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, dunno, obviously something about Nautilus. I mean it clearly states what will be disabled in nautilus
[05:20] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, I'm not sure.... where did you get that? on a side note, xeeder you'll have to use DKMS (I think that's what it's called) to get proprietary drivers/modules to work with mainline kernels.
[05:20] <rizal> Pingu, you can install boot repair in live mode
[05:20] <Nubuntu> So i have a question. If i boot ubuntu, will it give me the option to make a new partition for ubuntu and keep windows secure
[05:21] <Pingu> rizal, yeah sure I just want to know if it would work without live mode first to save time
[05:21] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, for example, if I want to use my wifi proprietary driver (broadcom wifi :V) I'll have to go through a process to get it to work with my current mainline kernel.
[05:22] <Ari-Yang> I think VMware counts too... haven't tried it
[05:22] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, so I advise you to disable all proprietary drivers when installing a mainline kernel, set it all to open source.
[05:22] <rizal> Pingu, maybe
[05:22] <mattwj2002> hi guys...how well is bluray supported in ubuntu
[05:22] <xeeder> Ari-Yang, i have atheros wifi which is supported; so i think it will work; right?
[05:23] <Pingu> rizal, well I guess it is worth trying
[05:23] <xeeder> Ari-Yang,  how to set them open source?
[05:23] <rizal> Pingu, i only ever on live mode
[05:23] <xeeder> why is there no guide on ubuntu for that :/
[05:23] <mattwj2002> I want to buy a BluRay burner and burn some disc
[05:23] <Nubuntu> If i boot ubuntu, will it give me the option to make a new partition for ubuntu and keep windows secure/unharmed
[05:23] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, go to additional drivers from system settings.
[05:23] <Pingu> rizal, what do you mean?
[05:23] <wyclif> hey
[05:24] <Nubuntu> wait huys
[05:24] <Nubuntu> If i boot ubuntu, will it give me the option to make a new partition for ubuntu and keep windows secure
[05:24] <shubhamjain> Nubuntu:  It will replace the classic boot loader with GRUb with an option to boot to windows. SO I guess yes.
[05:24] <xeeder> Ari-Yang, it says no proprietary drivers are in use
[05:24] <diverdude> shubhamjain, SoX?
[05:24] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, I know on 12.10 and 13.04, you go to software sources and select the additional drivers tab from there. also there's this on DKMS http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2041602
[05:24] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, okay, you're good
[05:25] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, so if you install a mainline kernel right now, everything should be just fine, wifi etc.
[05:25] <shubhamjain> Diverdude: Sound Exchange. Google it. Havent used it myself.
[05:25] <wilee-nilee> Nubuntu, What windows release is this?
[05:25] <Ari-Yang> [01:22:44] <xeeder> Ari-Yang, i have atheros wifi which is supported; so i think it will work; right? ---> not sure, best way to find out is to try *shrugs*
[05:25] <rizal> Pingu, i just tried on live mode
[05:26] <Pingu> rizal, oh ok
[05:26] <rizal> Pingu, sorry my english chaotic
[05:26] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, you running on 64-bit or 32-bit?
[05:26] <xeeder> Ari-Yang,  64-bit
[05:26] <Pingu> rizal, dont worry about it man, thanks for the help
[05:26] <rizal> ok ...
[05:27] <xeeder> dont know why kernel headers return false when i typed Y for it
[05:27] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, okay so you'd download the linux-image amd64 .deb and if you're gonna use DKMS just in case get the headers amd64 .deb and the headers all .deb
[05:27] <moorvogi> goodnight all
[05:28] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, so if you were to download kernel 3.11.1, you'd download http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.11.1-saucy/linux-image-3.11.1-031101-generic_3.11.1-031101.201309141102_amd64.deb http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.11.1-saucy/linux-headers-3.11.1-031101-generic_3.11.1-031101.201309141102_amd64.deb and http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.11.1-saucy/linux-headers
[05:28] <Ari-Yang> -3.11.1-031101_3.11.1-031101.201309141102_all.deb
[05:28] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.11.1-saucy/linux-headers-3.11.1-031101_3.11.1-031101.201309141102_all.deb
[05:28] <Ari-Yang> ( sorry for spam :V)
[05:28] <xeeder> Ari-Yang,  i am going with 3.11
[05:29] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, throw them all in a folder, cd into it via terminal and run sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[05:29] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, make sure they're the only .deb files in the folder if you're gonna do it that way.
[05:30] <Nubuntu> sorry, it is win y
[05:30] <Nubuntu> *7
[05:31] <xeeder> Ari-Yang,  i am using this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel (how to upgrade kernel) is it cool?
[05:31] <wilee-nilee> Nubuntu, Some OEM's have 4 primary partitions, this is the maximum, so we need to see if this is the case from ubuntu. Generally it is better to shrink the windows with its disk manager leaving a unallocated for the ubuntu install.
[05:32] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, ummmm yeah I'd run the command I just said, seeing how that works.
[05:32] <Ari-Yang> put all the .deb files in one folder, cd into it with terminal and run: sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[05:32] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, after when it's done, reboot
[05:33] <wilee-nilee> Nubuntu, However people do use the installer to resize windows your choice, hyou just want to be sure you have the partition types and max allowed in order
[05:33] <xeeder> Ari-Yang,  kernel headers return false; i am sure that i replied with Y when it asked if i wanted to have kernel headers
[05:34] <Nubuntu> yeah, I want to keep windows files secure, but have lets say 100 gigs for ubuntu. So the installer, will let me create a parition?
[05:34] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, you mean the headers didn't install?
[05:34] <xeeder> "Would you like to download kernel headers [Y/n]: Y
[05:34] <xeeder> "
[05:34] <wilee-nilee> Nubuntu, Oh yes, if unallocated the manual install will allow you to make a partition, you probably want a swap to.
[05:35] <xeeder> Ari-Yang,  "Kernel headers: False, Kernel image: True, Kernel extras: True
[05:35] <xeeder> "
[05:35] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, how are you downloading those files?
[05:35] <xeeder> by using ubuntu guide
[05:35] <Nubuntu> ok good. Because I just want to make sure that all windows files are ok
[05:35] <Ari-Yang> ...forget that guide xeeder, follow my instructions I gave you above :/
[05:35] <xeeder> Ari-Yang,  i am using this guide: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel (how to upgrade kernel)
[05:35] <wilee-nilee> Nubuntu, I think even with a unallocated space you can hit install alongside, I always manual install so not real sure.
[05:36] <xeeder> what should i do know; should i close the terminal?
[05:36] <xeeder> its still downloading
[05:36] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, it's downloading the image?
[05:36] <xeeder> Ari-Yang, should i close terminal; or what now?
[05:36] <Nubuntu> ok. I'll just watch a tut then thanks wilee-nilee
[05:36] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, if it's downloading, just leave it....
[05:36] <xeeder> yeah its completed: 50%
[05:36] <xeeder> still downloading
[05:36] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, where will it be saved to?
[05:36] <Ari-Yang> your downloads folder?
[05:36] <xeeder> leave means>>quit to terminal?
[05:37] <Ari-Yang> no leave as in don't quit
[05:37] <Ari-Yang> just leave it alone and let it download....
[05:37] <wilee-nilee> Nubuntu, no problem, once in a great while someone will let the installer resize windows and have  brick because its resized to far, but it seems rare.
[05:37] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, I wanted you to just download the .deb links from the directory page, simply download it and when it's done install it :|
[05:38] <xeeder> Ari-Yang,  its downloading to some default directory i guess as i didnt specify any during upgradation
[05:38] <oaulakh> hello again
[05:38] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, okay, well if the headers aren't gonna download, go to the directory and download it from there
[05:38] <oaulakh> why i was banned
[05:38] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh, the bot banned you
[05:38] <oaulakh> if i'm solving the problem here
[05:38] <oaulakh> dual boot
[05:38] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, you're downloading 3.11.1?
[05:39] <xeeder> wth; i just tried to copy the lines from terminal with ctrl+c and it returned with keyboard interrupt
[05:39] <oaulakh> so who need dual boot
[05:39] <xeeder> the whole thing stopped i guess? Ari-Yang
[05:39] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, just highlight and right click and hit 'copy'? :b
[05:39] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, okay lets start from scratch
[05:40] <Ari-Yang> close the terminal if it isn't closed (and close it if it looks like the download stopped)
[05:40] <xeeder> Ari-Yang,  it isnt closed but i cant see any download;
[05:40] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, go to this page, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.11.1-saucy/ simply click and download image amd64, headers amd64, and headers all. after move all of the .deb into a single folder....
[05:41] <oaulakh> how to install nvidia suitable driver for 410m
[05:41] <oaulakh> i have nvidia 410m in my laptop and i need drivers help me
[05:41] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, then after, cd into the folder with terminal and type sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[05:41] <Ari-Yang> after it's done, reboot...
[05:41] <Pingu> rizal, it worked!!!
[05:41] <Pingu> rizal, thanks so much man
[05:41] <Pingu> rizal, solved the problem!
[05:42] <Pingu> rizal,I can now duel boot ubuntu and windows 8
[05:42] <oaulakh> nvidia drivers in ubuntu?
[05:42] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, these are the links you will be downloading: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=nNYu32xA
[05:42] <rizal> Pingu, congratulations
[05:42] <wilee-nilee> !nvidia | oaulakh
[05:42] <Ari-Yang> Pingu, it's dual, but putting that aside, grats ^_^
[05:43] <oaulakh> msg me private pingu i dont want to banned again
[05:43] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, let me know when you're done installing before you reboot....
[05:44] <Pingu> Ari-Yang, haha ok
[05:44] <Ari-Yang> :>
[05:44] <xeeder> Ari-Yang, sure Thanks for helping me out :)
[05:44] <Ari-Yang> no worries~
[05:45] <wilee-nilee> oaulakh, The bot banned you because you were using the enter key a punctuation, multiple posts in order.
[05:45] <wilee-nilee> as*
[05:48] <fellayaboy> if i install a ubuntu onto a usb (not a live persisent) will it be portable or will it be tied to that computer i created it on?
[05:49] <wilee-nilee> fellayaboy, depends on what hardware you run into.
[05:50] <fellayaboy> but most part if its i386 it should run on almost any
[05:50] <helmut_> hi
[05:50] <fellayaboy> right?
[05:50] <Ben64> you'll probably run into graphics problems
[05:50] <fellayaboy> my uubntu usb is i386 so it should probably work on there
[05:50] <fellayaboy> oh yeah thats typical too
[05:51] <fellayaboy> but will network manager pick up the wifi or is it stuck to the wifi device i created ubuntu usb on
[05:52] <fellayaboy> will it pick up the device from other computer i put it on
[05:56] <oaulakh> hello
[05:57]  * MightyK 
[05:58] <oaulakh> i dunno i'm using internet through iphone on ubuntu and its dropping my internet connection again again, and i'm frustrating with that useless os as compares to windows 8
[05:58] <oaulakh> any help
[06:01] <werxxx> I have 2 ubuntu on my computer, how to delete one os
[06:02] <wyclif> werxxx: could it be possible that you have Ubuntu installed on 2 partitions?
[06:04] <Isara> werxxx: Use https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OS-Uninstaller
[06:05] <werxxx> I have 1 kubuntu and 2 ubuntu  on my hdd, I want to delete wrong os
[06:05] <Isara> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/OS-Uninstaller <- should work.
[06:05] <werxxx> Thanks
[06:09] <Lightz> Hi. I want to see the input of my digital camera from canon on my ubuntu 12.04 screen. how can i do it? or for what feature do I have to search? Thanks!
[06:09] <SwedeMike> Lightz: you want to use it as a real time webcam basically?
[06:10] <Lightz> SwedeMike: yes
[06:10] <Isara> Does your camera change modes when plugged to a computer?
[06:10] <Isara> If it forces itself in a different mode where you can't use the camera then there's no viable way.
[06:10] <Lightz> Isara: Sorry, I dont know.
[06:10] <Isara> You own the camera. Just plug it to a PC and see what happens.
[06:11] <Isara> Can you take photos while it's plugged?
[06:11] <Lightz> Ok. I also will search for a way to use it as webcam. that should work. I will ask later if I dont find anything. Thanks.
[06:13] <SwedeMike> Lightz: if it works as a webcam under windows, then you should try a webcam application and see if it works under linux as well. if you need to convert video output from the camera with some kind of video input card, then that's what you need to look for.
[06:28] <SupaSol> matinaux du Week End :-)
[06:29] <SupaSol> youps
[06:29] <SupaSol> Hello here :p
[06:30] <h4ck1ng> tengo un problema con ubuntu alguien me puede ayudar?
[06:31] <aeon-ltd> !es
[06:40] <oaulakh> hello
[06:40] <Isara> Hello
[06:41] <oaulakh> do you know how to install xchat in ubuntu?
[06:42] <Isara> Use the Software Center.
[06:42] <Isara> Use the Ubuntu Software Center*
[06:43] <Isara> Use Ubuntu Software Center.* (Sorry)
[06:43] <oaulakh> i used it but it freez on updating cache
[06:43] <Lightz> Hi. I want to see the input of my digital camera (canon 1100d) on my ubuntu 12.04 screen. How can I do it? I checked /dev but did not find the device. My build in cam of my netbook got /dev/video0 but I found no video1 for my cam. But I still can mount the storage of the cam. Do I have to install a driver? I was using VLC. My onboard cam works flawless. When plugged in I can take pictures with my digicam. Thanks.
[06:46] <oaulakh> .... :(
[06:47] <Daejeo> hello anybody awake?
[06:47] <reisio> hi
[06:47] <oaulakh> yeahhhh but no one answering questions
[06:47] <reisio> oaulakh: sudo apt-get install xchat
[06:47] <Daejeo> hello reisio
[06:48] <oaulakh> not working it says me unable to locate package
[06:50] <reisio> apt-cache search chat | grep -I x
[06:50] <reisio> grep -i
[06:50] <Isara> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XChatHowto#Installation_.26_Starting_XChat
[06:50] <Isara> sudo apt-get install xchat. XChat-GNOM
[06:50] <Isara> sudo apt-get install xchat. XChat-GNOME (
[06:50] <Isara> sudo apt-get install xchat. XChat-GNOME * arghh
[06:51] <Isara> Oh wait, the latter wasn't part of the command. Stupid me.
[06:51] <reisio> don't need a guide to install a package...
[06:52] <kongthap> i'm trying to setup permission for my web application folder /var/www/myfolder
[06:52] <Marcolino> Anyone from BRasil ?
[06:53] <kongthap> if I set to drwxrwxrwx, this permission is too risk for security
[06:55] <przemek> hello my dears , what's mean that RAID is in VERYFICATION mode?
[06:55] <przemek> raid 9750 lsi
[06:55] <Isara> Then change the permission specifically for the user/folder.
[06:56] <reisio> -br
[06:56] <reisio> przemek: means you're using raid, a mistake
[06:57] <przemek> mistake ? do You mean raid error?
[06:59] <reisio> I mean most people using raid shouldn't be
[07:00] <przemek> ahh :)
[07:00] <przemek> yeh i know
[07:00] <przemek> I prefere software RAID
[07:01] <przemek> but it's my client
[07:02] <reisio> software too
[07:07] <xeeder> how to find default runlevel of system? it should be here:  "/etc/inittab" but i cant find inittab; please help
[07:07] <xeeder> i am using ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[07:08] <Territoriojoven> lol no one toldme i could go from ubuntu to xubuntu
[07:08] <Territoriojoven> :(
[07:08] <Territoriojoven> gotta do it all again
[07:08] <zykotick9> !runlevels | xeeder
[07:08] <guest1337> Hey, so...
[07:08] <guest1337> could someone assist me with an Ubuntu installation?
[07:08] <guest1337> I'm currently on a live cd
[07:09] <guest1337> basically, in the installation for 13.04
[07:09] <reisio> yes?
[07:09] <reisio> good guest number :p
[07:09] <xeeder> ubottu,  what do you mean by equal? i have read that 0 means halt; 6 means reboot; 5 means upstart; isnt that how it suppose to be?
[07:09] <guest1337> k, so there's things like /boot and / and /var
[07:09] <guest1337> What does / do?
[07:09] <guest1337> Does /boot actually contain all the files for the Ubuntu boot?
[07:10] <aeon-ltd> guest1337: yes, it contains grub
[07:10] <aeon-ltd> guest1337: / is root, it can contain everything if you want
[07:10] <reisio> the top of the filesystem is /
[07:10] <joufflu> hi hi
[07:10] <xeeder> okk..gotcha
[07:10] <guest1337> Let's say: Could I install /boot onto an SSD, and then everything else onto a 1 TB hard drive, and would it boot as if I installed everything on the ssd?
[07:10] <aeon-ltd> guest1337: some people like to separate directories for better management
[07:11] <Territoriojoven> before doing that, it's going to be normal xubuntu right?
[07:11] <reisio> just as /foo/ contains /foo/bar/, / contains all
[07:11] <guest1337> If I select the ssd for /boot, then the 1 tb for /, would it install an extra copy of /boot into /, or not contain /boot in /?
[07:11] <aeon-ltd> guest1337: if ssd boots first, you should be able to configure it to boot from other hdds
[07:11] <xeeder> when i type runlevel it returns: "N 2" what is N here? 2 is current run level right?
[07:11] <reisio> boot isn't an entire os
[07:12] <reisio> you might leave /home/ off the ssd, though
[07:12] <guest1337> Sorry, it's late at night, and I'm trying to fix my computer. I've been getting errors when I installed it on the hdd
[07:13] <guest1337> I don't really need to know about /boot and stuff, but instead, has anyone had a problem where you install ubuntu, and get an error message: file '/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod' not found?
[07:13] <xeeder> when i type runlevel it returns: "N 2" what is N here? 2 is current run level right?
[07:13] <guest1337> I've tried a few websites from a google search, none of them worked.
[07:13] <xeeder> i am typing runlevel in terminal..
[07:14] <YatharthROCK> .
[07:14] <guest1337> I've tried formatting the hard drive, and reinstalling ubuntu.
[07:14] <reisio> guest1337: paste your...
[07:15] <reisio> etc/grub/grub.cfg, /etc/fstab, lsblk
[07:16] <guest1337> bash: /etc/grub: No such file or directory
[07:16] <xeeder> when i type runlevel it returns: "N 2" what is N here? 2 is current run level right?
[07:16] <otak> xeeder: N is the previous runlevel ie. none, check yer man page
[07:16] <reisio> sorry /boot/grub
[07:16] <guest1337> I'm running a live cd, do I need to go to that hard drive's directory instead?
[07:16] <Lightz> Hi. I want to see the input of my digital camera (canon 1100d) on my ubuntu 12.04 screen. How can I do it? I checked /dev but did not find the device. My build in cam of my netbook got /dev/video0 but I found no video1 for my cam. But I still can mount the storage of the cam. Do I have to install a driver? I was using VLC. My onboard cam works flawless. When plugged in I can take pictures with my digicam. Thanks.
[07:16] <guest1337> ah k
[07:17] <wilee-nilee> guest1337, This computer start out with W8?
[07:17] <guest1337> Should I paste the whole text file?
[07:17] <guest1337> well
[07:17] <reisio> yeah sure, at dpaste.com
[07:17] <guest1337> I built this computer, installed windows 7
[07:17] <guest1337> then installed w8
[07:18] <reisio> ...
[07:18] <guest1337> then installed ubuntu
[07:18] <wilee-nilee> guest1337, No gpt ever right?
[07:18] <reisio> and?
[07:18] <guest1337> gpt?
[07:18] <guest1337> basically, I've reinstalled ubuntu a few times
[07:18] <guest1337> anyways pasting
[07:18] <wilee-nilee> I will take that as a yes, hehe
[07:18] <guest1337> http://pastebin.com/FnKnHKb5
[07:19] <guest1337> thanks for helping me out, by the way
[07:19] <xeeder> otak, how to do that ? man check?
[07:20] <xeeder> !man
[07:21] <reisio> guest1337: others coming?
[07:21] <guest1337> pardon?
[07:21] <ponch0> hello
[07:21] <guest1337> others?
[07:21] <reisio> needed three things, not one
[07:21] <guest1337> oh crap, sorry
[07:21] <reisio> hi poncho
[07:21] <reisio> :)
[07:22] <xeeder> otak, "If there is no previous runlevel in the record, the
[07:22] <xeeder>        letter N will be substituted." thats all written for N; but i want to know my current runlevel not previous one
[07:22] <guest1337> permission denied for /etc/fstab
[07:23] <reisio> shouldn't be
[07:23] <wilee-nilee> guest1337, sudo gedit /etc/fstab
[07:23] <guest1337> here's lsblk http://pastebin.com/9L3utScm
[07:24] <auronandace> gksudo | wilee-nilee
[07:24] <otak> xeeder: 2 is current runlevel, you are right
[07:24] <auronandace> !gksudo | wilee-nilee
[07:24] <wilee-nilee> yeah yeah I know
[07:24] <guest1337> got it, pasting
[07:24] <guest1337> http://pastebin.com/YpHikq4Y
[07:25] <reisio> grub.cfg looks incomplete, you paste it all?
[07:25] <guest1337> I'll check again.
[07:27] <xeeder> how to do that: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6136044/ as ubuntu is slightly different so i am having hard time with following instruction in the paste.
[07:28] <reisio> xeeder: what is it you're trying to accomplish?
[07:28] <guest1337> so, I'm doing 'cd /boot/grub/' and then 'ls', the file isn't listed. Even doing /boot/grub/grub.cfg says that there's no such file or directory.
[07:28] <guest1337> Checking again to see if I did it right.
[07:28] <Kristall> So Intel/ATi/nVidia don't want to support Mir and all lean towards Wayland/Weston... so how are future ubuntus going to use desktop graphics drivers?
[07:29] <xeeder> reisio, i want to install nvidia driver; which requires changing runlevel and killing X window
[07:29] <cfhowlett> Kristall, we'll have to wait and see
[07:30] <reisio> xeeder: nope
[07:30] <xeeder> reisio,  i am following this guide: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/325.15/README/newusertips.html as it has been recommended for new users who want to install nvidia drivers
[07:31] <guest1337> yeah, I can't get to grub.cfg, it says that it doesn't exist.
[07:31] <reisio> don't follow anything on nvidia.com
[07:31] <auronandace> xeeder: why aren't you using the nvidia drivers from the repos (the ones that are tried and tested)
[07:31] <Kristall> I just use xorg edgers for graphics drivers, manually sticking in graphics drivers can make a mess.
[07:31] <xeeder> auronandace,  why cant i use latest ones?
[07:32] <auronandace> xeeder: every kernel update would require you to reinstall them, sounds like quite a hassle to me
[07:32] <guest1337> Okay, it's 12:30 AM, I have to sleep. I'm going to try and fix this tomorrow. Thanks, though.
[07:32] <reisio> guest1337: find /boot/ -type f -iname '*grub*c*f*'
[07:32] <guest1337> oh
[07:32] <xeeder> auronandace,  i am using default one; 3.8 and i meant to keep it for long time
[07:32] <guest1337> I'll try that
[07:33] <auronandace> xeeder: yes and that gets updated with security updates through the official repos
[07:33] <xeeder> auronandace,  and its all written here: http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/325.15/README/installdriver.html
[07:33] <reisio> don't follow that :p
[07:33] <xeeder> auronandace,  what do you suggest then? installing it from official repos?
[07:34] <auronandace> xeeder: absolutely
[07:34] <auronandace> xeeder: thats what the repos are there for
[07:34] <xeeder> old drivers had a issue like blank screen or something like that; and i have searched around a bit and found that latest are the ones that are good
[07:35] <guest1337> I typed that into the terminal (find /boot/ -type f -iname '*grub*c*f*') and it didn't do anything.
[07:35] <otak> If guest1337 is on the live cd and wants to examine the installed files, need to mount hard drive / ssd first and cd to that...
[07:35] <auronandace> !nomodeset | xeeder
[07:35] <guest1337> kk
[07:36] <reisio> guest1337: anything in /boot/?
[07:38] <guest1337> I think previously (through another tutorial to try and fix this) I had mounted the partition (sdb1) to /mnt
[07:38] <guest1337> How can I get to it?
[07:38] <xeeder> auronandace,  "Installing proprietary nvidia drivers usually makes this option no longer necessary, so it may not be needed to make this option permanent, just for one boot until you installed the nvidia drivers." how to set it for one boot only?
[07:38] <guest1337> ah, I have to go anyways
[07:39] <guest1337> bye
[07:39] <xeeder> auronandace,  i am talking about nomodeset
[07:39] <auronandace> xeeder: it should say so in that thread
[07:39] <xeeder> auronandace,  it doesnt :/
[07:40] <xeeder> auronandace,  found it
[07:40] <auronandace> xeeder: yes it does
[07:42] <Kristall> Soo... how big is Kylin since PRC is pushing it?
[07:42] <Kristall> It'd be funny seing Ubuntu surpass Windows in China
[07:43] <auronandace> Kristall: this channel is for support issues only
[07:43] <KnownSyntax> Linux Deepin is the best China based distro based from Ubuntu I've seen
[07:43] <cfhowlett> KnownSyntax, deepin?  never heard of it.  kylin maybe?
[07:43] <cfhowlett> !kylin
[07:43] <cfhowlett> !ubuntukylin
[07:44] <KnownSyntax> Yeah, Google it. It has the best desktop manager ever (based from gnome) but it looks and feels just like Windows 7.
[07:44] <cfhowlett> KnownSyntax, http://www.ubuntukylin.com/#
[07:45] <auronandace> KnownSyntax: isn't supported here, not from ubuntu
[07:45] <cfhowlett> KnownSyntax, kylin is the official ubuntu linux distro per agreement with the PRC and ubuntu
[07:45] <xeeder> auronandace,  if i install it from repository then should i need to configure the kernel too? or i should be worry free?
[07:45] <xeeder> "sudo add-apt-repository ppa:xorg-edgers/ppa
[07:45] <xeeder> sudo apt-get update
[07:45] <xeeder> sudo apt-get install nvidia-325"
[07:45] <KnownSyntax> I know that.
[07:45] <KnownSyntax> But I wish ubuntu did support it
[07:45] <auronandace> xeeder: i never said use the ppa
[07:45] <auronandace> xeeder: you should be worry free
[07:45] <KnownSyntax> I mean look at it; http://www.linuxdeepin.com/index.en.html It's so beautiful. Sad how Ubuntu only supports distros that use it's same layout (unity, etc.)
[07:46] <cfhowlett> KnownSyntax, not likely to happen.  see kylin
[07:46] <auronandace> KnownSyntax: ubuntu only supports distros it makes
[07:46] <KnownSyntax> Lol
[07:48] <reisio> Ubuntu supports many DEs other than Unity...
[07:48] <reisio> and also versions it does not make...
[07:48] <reisio> please make sense, ye
[07:48] <KnownSyntax> Well yes, but not in Ubuntu itself (AKA Kubuntu etc.).
[07:48] <reisio> official distro
[07:48] <KnownSyntax> I meant like core in just Ubuntu, not any other distro.
[07:48] <cfhowlett> !distro
[07:49] <KnownSyntax> Correct.
[07:49] <gordonjcp> KnownSyntax: that's a horrible DE layout
[07:49] <KnownSyntax> What is?
[07:49] <reisio> you can use KDE on 'Ubuntu'
[07:49] <Kristall> I need to use 13.10 or update my kernel to support my hardware as best as possible... hmm... I wonder which .10 is most stable. I'm scared updating kernel because that will break things and I'm too lazy to do fixes when .10 is so close.
[07:49] <gordonjcp> KnownSyntax: that deepin thing, why has it got all that wasted space at the bottom with that silly bar?
[07:49] <cfhowlett> gordonjcp, trying to mimic win7 would be my guess
[07:49] <KnownSyntax> It's supposed to be like Windows 7, aka task bar. The icons are like the "quick start" icons and also show what is running etc.
[07:50] <gordonjcp> KnownSyntax: that's stupid
[07:50] <gordonjcp> it wastes so much space, it should be at the side like in Unity
[07:50] <Kristall> Looks better than windows imo... and ubuntu should pick up some notes fom it and Kylin.
[07:50] <gordonjcp> I started using Windows a couple of weeks ago, that's one of the things that really annoys me about it
[07:50] <KnownSyntax> Eh, if you just started using Linux, would you go for something that looks like it and feels like it, or something unfamilar? That's the point. For someone who has used linux before, it would be somewhat pointless unless you loved the looks of Windows 7
[07:50] <cfhowlett> Kristall, well as its NOT supported here ... I'd say we're pretty much offtoic
[07:50] <reisio> notes on the desktop paradigm everyone already uses?
[07:51] <gordonjcp> KnownSyntax: no, you'd be better going for something that looks completely different
[07:51] <gordonjcp> KnownSyntax: that way you won't trip yourself up on all the things that are *nearly* the same
[07:51] <KnownSyntax> Not if you are a noob though, lol.
[07:51] <gordonjcp> KnownSyntax: <shrug>
[07:51] <KnownSyntax> You'd be so lost.
[07:51] <gordonjcp> KnownSyntax: I'm a total Windows noob
[07:52] <Kristall> Ubuntu's top bar is a pain when you want to run a program fill-screen...
[07:52] <KnownSyntax> But I do love Ubuntu, just wish somethings were different about it and what not.
[07:52] <gordonjcp> KnownSyntax: I find it easier to get around Windows being totally different from my Ubuntu desktop, than if it was nearly-but-not-quite the same
[07:52] <auronandace> KnownSyntax: perhaps you can voice your opinions in #ubuntu-discuss
[07:52] <gordonjcp> KnownSyntax: car analogy, and a true story
[07:52] <gordonjcp> KnownSyntax: I have two cars, very similar, both Citroëns
[07:53] <KnownSyntax> gordonjcp: Hm true, although others dislike it.
[07:53] <Ben64> !ot
[07:53] <gordonjcp> KnownSyntax: both the same model, Citroën CX, but different versions - one is the older Series 1, the other is the Series 2
[07:53] <Kristall> Anyone know which ubuntu derivative is the most popular? Ku Xu Lu
[07:53] <KnownSyntax> auronandace: I know, was just saying since someone brought up a chinese distro etc.
[07:53] <cfhowlett> Kristall, see distrowatch
[07:54] <gordonjcp> KnownSyntax: they are *almost* identical inside, but on the switches beside the steering wheel the headlight and windscreen wiper switches are swapped around
[07:54] <cfhowlett> !derivative
[07:54] <auronandace> KnownSyntax: and this is a support channel, not a discussion channel...
[07:54] <Kristall> cfhowlett: DIstrowatch's numbers are garbage. :-/
[07:54] <gordonjcp> KnownSyntax: so every time I go to turn the lights on when I'm driving one after driving the other, I switch the wipers off
[07:54] <Ben64> gordonjcp: take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:54] <gordonjcp> KnownSyntax: *so so nearly* the same
[07:55] <gordonjcp> KnownSyntax: you're going to run into the same problem by making your DE look so nearly the same as Win 7
[07:55] <Kristall> Is it possible to make ubuntu's top bar autohide like the side bar?
[07:55] <auronandace> Kristall: i don't think you can
[07:56] <gordonjcp> Kristall: I don't think you can but I believe you can make it transparent
[07:57] <Isara> You can do that in XFCE, but I am not sure about Gnome/Unity.
[07:58] <Kristall> Isara: Funny you mention that because I'm using LXDE because I can't figure out how to make the top bar hide... could do it in xfce.
[07:58] <reisio> Xfce
[07:58] <MonkeyDust> Kristall  i guess you can do that with unity-tweak-tool, in the 'panel' section
[08:04] <republican_devil> how do i learn vlan network stuff in ubuntu? and iscsi or fcoe or ataoe?
[08:05] <Kristall> republican_devil: make a virtual interface(hook a vpn to it) and set firewall rules?
[08:13] <xeeder> i was updating kernel to 3.11.1 and found this error at the end of installation: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6136154/ please HELP
[08:16] <xeeder> i was updating kernel to 3.11.1 and found this error at the end of installation: http://paste2.org/WaOXNZkP please HELP
[08:16] <xeeder> ubuntu paste not working. so i pasted it to paste2
[08:16] <wilee-nilee> !patience | xeeder not even supported
[08:16] <djlanz> restart then keep pressing esc den log on to recovery mode then u can fix broken packages
[08:17] <xeeder> wilee-nilee,  ubuntupaste was not working; so it was a dead end with my question..
[08:17] <republican_devil> how hard is it to setup a big box of disks raid 10ed   asa a iscsi SAN?
[08:17] <Isara> Here's the problem Found Windows 8 (loader) on /dev/sda1
[08:17] <Isara> Sorry, couldn't help myself.
[08:17] <republican_devil> and how well does xen support win2008?
[08:17] <gordonjcp> republican_devil: Not Very
[08:17] <gordonjcp> don't know about Xen and Windows
[08:17] <gordonjcp> iSCSI is dead easy
[08:18] <republican_devil> what are the overall steps of preparing a ubuntu box to be used asa SAN?
[08:18] <Kristall> I use KVM instead of Xen because it's easy and I'm lazy.
[08:18] <republican_devil> I am assuming ethernet cat6
[08:18] <Kristall> Windows works on KVM just fine for me...
[08:18] <xeeder> Isara, is it the problem windows 8? i am using it for my bitlocked drives
[08:18] <republican_devil> ok how about KVM supporting 2008 then?
[08:18] <gordonjcp> republican_devil: install Ubuntu, set up some sort of partition for storage, install iSCSI
[08:18] <republican_devil> when you configure the iscsi part what do you do? is it documented howto?
[08:18] <republican_devil> I never did it
[08:18] <gordonjcp> republican_devil: you might be better asking in ##windows, I've only been using Windows for acouple of weeks
[08:19] <republican_devil> yeah I hate windows
[08:19] <republican_devil> a lot
[08:19] <gordonjcp> republican_devil: https://help.ubuntu.com/lts/serverguide/iscsi-initiator.html
[08:19] <Kristall> republican_devil: I don't run them, but the hosting company I'm with seems to be running 2008 on KVM well, no 3D GPU accel though.
[08:19] <rocxxx> fsf
[08:19] <gordonjcp> republican_devil: ... except that's an initiator
[08:20] <gordonjcp> and you want target
[08:20] <gordonjcp> republican_devil: http://www.heath-bar.com/blog/?p=203
[08:20] <rocxxx> hii
[08:20] <ling> zm
[08:21] <ling> 怎么合并ubuntu和deepin
[08:21] <Isara> http://www.heath-bar.com/blog/?p=643
[08:21] <Isara> Which user interface is this? :o
[08:21] <xeeder> problem is with this i think: W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168g-3.fw for module r8169
[08:22] <gordonjcp> xeeder: maybe you should work out what package provides that firmware, if you use that network interface
[08:22] <wilee-nilee> Isara, That site is listed as malicious
[08:22] <Isara> I am using it on Firefox and it works well.
[08:22] <Isara> Who listed it as malicious, Google?
[08:23] <wilee-nilee> norton
[08:23] <gordonjcp> wilee-nilee: it's not listed as malicious by google
[08:23] <Isara> Oh, o, great norton, whom passes judgement on people's blogs as malicious.
[08:23] <gordonjcp> wilee-nilee: what's norton?
[08:23] <wilee-nilee> symantec a av
[08:23] <Isara> gordonjcp: An anti-virus when deployed at a small company will cost way more than your pension.
[08:24] <_Ali>  www.points4fun.blogspot.com
[08:24] <ace_me> hi all
[08:24] <gordonjcp> Isara: anti-virus?
[08:24] <_Ali> hello
[08:24] <gordonjcp> Isara: are viruses still a thing?  I remember Atari STs used to get them
[08:25] <Isara> gordonnjcp: Something that helps people from downloading totallylegitfile.exe.gif.jpg.avi and getting rooted.
[08:25] <Kristall> gordonjcp: I hear Windows gets them when people's IQs are under 95.
[08:25] <Isara> Still, nobody answered my question.
[08:26] <Isara> It looks like XFCE, but the fonts look so much better.
[08:27] <gordonjcp> Isara: what was the question, sorry?
[08:27] <Isara> I used 0.1% of my brain and read the blog, figured out that what the blogger is using is http://elementaryos.org/
[08:32] <illiser> NickServ illiser qwer123
[08:33] <illiser> NickServ REGISTER illiser qwer123 xaker777.valentin@yandex.ru
[08:34] <Isara> Whoops.
[08:34] <Isara> That's a weak password, btw.
[08:34] <gordonjcp> well
[08:34] <gordonjcp> it is *now*...
[08:35] <wilee-nilee> !register | illiser change the password
[08:46] <republican_devil> anyone here running a iscsi SAN using ubuntu?
[08:46] <republican_devil> sharing space with a windows box?
[08:46] <republican_devil> 1g e moves at about 90MB/s
[08:46] <republican_devil> so that will be the limit eh?
[08:47] <republican_devil> without nic trunking..
[08:50] <Guest47021> need help, just installed xubuntu  How to fix  130 processes and  +80% cpu usage
[08:51] <Strit> fix 130 processes? That's low compared to mine. :)
[08:51] <republican_devil> dont use kde?
[08:51] <Guest47021> ugh
[08:51] <republican_devil> or gnome?
[08:51] <Strit> but the 80 CPU usage is quuite high. :)
[08:51] <Guest47021> 100% if i have firefox open
[08:51] <wilee-nilee> Guest47021, you would need to identify what is using the cpu
[08:52] <Strit> yeah. what process is using most CPU?
[08:52] <Guest47021> yes, task manager was using about 50% lel
[08:52] <wilee-nilee> Guest47021, install htop and look
[08:52] <Strit> using 50% all the time?
[08:53] <Guest47021> more or less
[08:53] <smw94> after installing .deb package i got this : Error: timeout was reached, here the detail : http://paste.ubuntu.com/6136260/
[08:53] <ubuntufan> how to find ubuntu oereating system files in the system?
[08:53] <bitbuzzer> I have an issue with openSSL version mismatch in ubuntu 11.10. I get an error message when trying to send email via /usr/sbin/sendmail: http://pastebin.com/WVuK0EK8
[08:53] <wilee-nilee> !11.10 | bitbuzzer
[08:54] <wilee-nilee> ubuntufan, can you give some details and end goals?
[08:54] <ubuntufan> about the location of ubuntu files in system?
[08:54] <gordonjcp> ubuntufan: what exactly are you trying to do?
[08:55] <wilee-nilee> smw94, That is a ppa.
[08:56] <ubuntufan> i want to know the location of the ubuntu os files?
[08:56] <wilee-nilee> ubuntufan, That makes no sense
[08:56] <smw94> wilee-nilee: thats alwasy happened although deb source is local file
[09:00] <wilee-nilee> smw94, that is a update from the ppa, why are installing a deb, post the whole cli.
[09:01] <wilee-nilee> ubuntufan, OS files are all over the install, be specific.
[09:01] <rafi_> Can someone help building 'termite' with its dependecy: vte >= 0.34 with patch t oexpose functions needed for keyboard selection. https://github.com/thestinger/termite
[09:02] <vinceableworld> Greetings. I'd like to figure out why my wi-fi keeps dropping and I have to manually disconnect and reconnect - then it doesn't last long.
[09:03] <vinceableworld> alright tried a couple of fixes I found online - no luck... would like to figure out how to find out what I already did (some type of log) and undo that since it didn't solve the problem
[09:03] <ubuntufan> where the ubuntu os files will be stored?
[09:03] <smw94> wilee-nilee: same error, update from ppa or dpkg -i blabla.deb
[09:04] <dsample> Hi, I'm trying to share a directory with a KVM guest OS, but the 9p mount command keeps telling me the mount point doesn't exist
[09:05] <mooler> ubuntufan: the OS files are all over the install. Pls. give some more info about what you trying to do..
[09:05] <wilee-nilee> smw94, try changing the repo, really from what you have showed it is a bit hard to figure whats going on.
[09:05] <mooler> ubuntufan: ..else nobody would be able to help you
[09:05] <republican_devil> ubuntu doesnt run like that linux security think be deafutl does it?
[09:05] <republican_devil> shoot whats it called.....selinux?
[09:05] <republican_devil> right?
[09:05] <republican_devil> 12.04lts
[09:05] <republican_devil> amd64
[09:06] <wilee-nilee> !enter | republican_devil
[09:06] <ace_me> do I need to create masterzone for domain.com on 2 different servers ?
[09:06] <vinceableworld> ...pull over republican_devil.
[09:07] <ubuntufan> exit
[09:07] <ubuntufan> ok bye.
[09:07] <ace_me> I have a domain and need to setup 2 NS's and I have a vps with only 1 IP address ! what should I do ?
[09:08] <vinceableworld> You would think linux users would generally be smarter than to call themselves "republican" or "democrat"
[09:09] <wilee-nilee> hehe confirmation bias
[09:10] <Myrtti> vinceableworld: since this isn't a political debate channel, very few people pay attention or even care.
[09:10] <dsample> ace_me, use a free DNS host instead of building them yourself?
[09:11] <vinceableworld> Again - if anyone knows something about this wi-fi issue I'd appreciate some feedback.
[09:12] <vinceableworld> or perhaps a more targeted channed to try? #networking?
[09:12] <vinceableworld> Works fine while the comp is active... but when it resumes it's got spotty connection
[09:13] <Ribas1981> http://Fun4Days.com/sms/sms.php?share=63274
[09:14] <republican_devil> what is the limit of software raid 5?
[09:15] <Daughain> Does anyone know of any install or update issues with samba4 on ubuntu 10.04?
[09:16] <ace_me> dsample have an example ?
[09:17] <MrsAngelD> ,
[09:18] <dsample> ace_me: xname.org, cloudns.net, dns.he.net,
[09:23] <Rothaarig3> hello, i have a question about KDE/Ubuntu 12.04.2LTS, i have a USB headset from Logitech and want to get a Creative Sound Blaster X-Fi Go! Pro, USB device for 3.5mm stereo headsets, is it recognised in the sound configuration menu and running under alsa as guest ? iam not the admin of the machine
[09:27] <nzeoi> i installed openssh-server, how can i prevent ssh service to execute at start-up?
[09:34] <Rothaarig3> ZZZzzzZZZ
[09:41] <oaulakh> how to search package for apt-get
[09:42] <oaulakh> how to search package for apt-get
[09:42] <oaulakh> how to search package for apt-get
[09:42] <FloodBot1> oaulakh: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:43] <republican_devil> apt-cache search postgresql
[09:44] <lasers> !boot | nzeoi
[09:44] <sony> tigrenok
[09:44] <viive> how to undelete folders from cleared ext4 filesystem? (not formatted, just removed).... Please, help
[09:44] <sony> hello
[09:45] <Ben64> !undelete | viive
[09:45] <sony> а по русски кто нибудь тут говорит.
[09:45] <oaulakh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6136398/   please review this
[09:45] <gordonjcp> !en | sony
[09:45] <gordonjcp> !ru | sony
[09:46] <nzeoi> thanks lasers
[09:46] <Rothaarig3> berlin is empty ^ ^
[09:46] <Daughain> Can anyone help me with samba in 10.04?
[09:46] <oaulakh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6136398/ what should i do for installing xchat
[09:47] <Ben64> oaulakh: search for xchat in the ubuntu software center
[09:47] <xeeder> hi; i have this weird display; the right side of screen has doubled up; the upper taskbar is also showing two sets of info
[09:47] <sony> как всю систему на русский переделать
[09:47] <Ben64> Daughain: 10.04 is no longer supported for desktops
[09:47] <sony> при загрузке рус ставила и все равно все на английском хелп ми
[09:47] <Daughain> No wonder the update screwed me.
[09:47] <gordonjcp> !ru | sony
[09:48] <Daughain> Thanks Ben64
[09:48] <Ben64> Daughain: its really old anyway, you should upgrade to 12.04
[09:49] <viive> ubottu: thanks! ^^ you give me hope to recovery!
[09:49] <viive> wow ^^
[09:49] <Rothaarig3> i found out that the creative sound device is supported, but has a bugreport from Thu, 27 Jun 2013 08:28:25 bug 1012031 can i use this sound device as guest or do i have to install some driver for it ?
[09:49] <majek> hi i need help im not werg good english
[09:49] <sony> человечки я вам не мешаю
[09:50] <oaulakh> if i search that package in ubuntu software centre it freze at updating cache
[09:50] <gordonjcp> !ru | sony
[09:50] <majek> who speak polish
[09:50] <IdleOne> !pl
[09:51] <majek> #ubuntu-pl.
[09:51] <gordonjcp> majek: and frankly your English is probably better than most people's Polish in here ;-)
[09:51] <oaulakh> how to install rpm in ubuntu
[09:52] <gordonjcp> oaulakh: ideally you don't
[09:52] <gordonjcp> oaulakh: what exactly are you trying to do?
[09:52] <oaulakh> i wnat to install xchat
[09:52] <oaulakh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6136398/
[09:52] <gordonjcp> oaulakh: there are Ubuntu packages for that
[09:52] <MonkeyDust> oaulakh  xchat is in the ubuntu repos
[09:53] <Rothaarig3> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IRC/ChannelList
[09:53] <MonkeyDust> !info xchat
[09:53] <Rothaarig3> or i talk german for now on lol
[09:53] <gordonjcp> oaulakh: which version of Ubuntu are you on?
[09:53] <MonkeyDust> Rothaarig3  type    /join #ubuntu-de
[09:54] <xeeder> i am getting this: http://i.imgur.com/nieaukD.png after kernel update; somebody please help me
[09:54] <Rothaarig3> nah i was in ubuntu berlin once
[09:54] <sony> http://vk.com/id70650867
[09:54] <sony> fenks
[09:54] <oaulakh> ubuntu 13.04
[09:55] <sony> ok
[09:55] <MonkeyDust> oaulakh  in a terminal, type    sudo apt-get install xchat
[09:55] <xeeder> the right side has been doubled i think; including desktop and taskbar
[09:55] <sony> a v pxp
[09:57] <xeeder> i am getting this: http://i.imgur.com/nieaukD.png after kernel update; somebody please help me
[09:57] <oaulakh> i type but getting error
[09:57] <xeeder> right part of screen is messed up
[09:58] <gordonjcp> !repeat | xeeder
[09:58] <Rothaarig3> thanks monkeydust
[09:59] <Ben64> oaulakh: pastebin the outputs of "uname -a" "lsb_release -r" "cat /etc/issue" "cat /etc/apt/sources.list*" and "cat /etc/apt/sources.list*/*"
[10:00] <lonely_M> Nick Alter_M
[10:02] <oaulakh> http://paste.ubuntu.com/6136436/
[10:03] <mooler> I run Lubuntu 12.10, Linux ubuntu 3.2.0-40-generic #64-Ubuntu SMP Mon Mar 25 21:22:26 UTC 2013 i686 i686 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:04] <oaulakh> http://imgur.com/YiIzWoO
[10:04] <mooler> it's a very old machine, non-PAE. How do I upgrade the kernel?
[10:04] <republican_devil> apt-get upgrade!
[10:04] <Ben64> oaulakh: ok.. pastebin "sudo apt-get update"
[10:07] <mooler> republican_devil: that would install the latest kernel that won't work on this old machine, I need to stick with kernel 3.2 from Precise. But don't know how to keep it update as the system itself is Quantal..
[10:09] <Ben64> uh... you should use 12.04 if you want 12.04's kernel
[10:09] <Ben64> we can't help you with a frankensystem
[10:13] <mooler> Maybe I need to download and install current kernel 3.2 from Precise manually... Will try ;)
[10:13] <Ben64> mooler: no
[10:13] <Ben64> mooler: just install 12.04
[10:14] <Williams323> hi
[10:15] <xeeder_1> Can anyone suggest me a comprehensive guide regarding kernel upgrade please??
[10:15] <chorgox> morning everyone...  im in ubuntu 13.04 and the other day I installed the new kernel  3.11 after that my ati video card started to act funny.. [BIG NOOB QUESTION HERE] is this normal everytime i update the kernel some of the drivers can stop working and stuff?
[10:15] <Ben65> xeeder_1: sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:16] <chorgox> i do have a dual monitor setup and trying to reinstall ati drivers was impossible so i had to go back
[10:16] <Ben65> chorgox: and where did you get such a kernel
[10:17] <chorgox> i follow this one ben http://ubuntuhandbook.org/index.php/2013/09/linux-kernel-3-11-released-install-upgrade-in-ubuntu-13-0412-04/
[10:17] <MonkeyDust> xeeder_1  plenty tutorials, here's one http://askubuntu.com/questions/119080/how-to-update-kernel-to-the-latest-mainline-version-without-any-distro-upgrade
[10:18] <Ben65> chorgox: that method is unsupported, and can leave you vulnerable
[10:20] <chorgox> so I should wait until the kernel is updated via software update center or whatever is called then ?
[10:20] <xeeder> can anyone please suggest me a comprehensive guide regarding kernel upgrade please?
[10:20] <Ben64> chorgox: yes
[10:20] <Ben64> xeeder: explain what you want
[10:21] <Ben64> chorgox: if you use LTS versions, you can get the new kernels when they come out
[10:21] <xeeder> i updated my kernel to 3.11.1 and screen got messed up; so i reverted back to previous one; i need to know all the dos and donts before and after i install kernel
[10:21] <Ben64> why is everyone upgrading their kernel manually tonight :|
[10:22] <xeeder> Ben64,  my current kernel is 3.8
[10:22] <chorgox> i donno  i learned from android and i want o useit here lool
[10:22] <xeeder> i need new kernel for nvidia driver
[10:22] <Ben64> xeeder: installing the kernel manually like that is not supported in #ubuntu and can cause problems, don't do it
[10:22] <willem> hi , i'm having troubles with my new soundcard, i just installed my terratec aureon 5.1 pci soundcard in my pc but is doesnt work
[10:23] <xeeder> Ben64,  alright then can you please tell me how to install nvidia optimus driver?
[10:23] <willem> if i do dmesg it gives a couple of thousand thimes this as output ' 18.725306] cmipci: invalid PCM pointer: 0xffff"
[10:23] <Ben64> xeeder: i don't have any optimus systems, sorry. the latest stuff i heard about it is to use "bumblebee"
[10:24] <willem> in alsamixer (terminal) i can see my soundcard but in sound in gui i can't see it
[10:24] <xeeder> Ben64,  nvidia released the official drivers so will it not be better to use these instead of using unofficial ones?
[10:25] <MonkeyDust> xeeder  is this useful http://followthegeeks.com/a-noobs-guide-to-installing-nvidia-optimus-driver-in-ubuntu/
[10:26] <xeeder> MonkeyDust,  i am onto it..
[10:29] <willem> does anyone has a idea ?
[10:36] <gbwui> HeyM-Cld, i need to learn linux ubuntu to manage my vps, i do not know how to get started. may someone advise
[10:36] <gbwui> i am sorry i did not mean to mention HeyM-Cld :(
[10:41] <kenshiro> Hi, I just upgraded my Ubuntu 12.04 to hardware enablement stack using: sudo apt-get install --install-recommends linux-generic-lts-quantal xserver-xorg-lts-quantal libgl1-mesa-glx-lts-quantal  as explained in wiki. Sound quality is a little worse now, so I want to revert back to original stack. What is the best procedure for this?
[10:41] <willem> hi , i'm having troubles with my new soundcard, i just installed my terratec aureon 5.1 pci soundcard in my pc but is doesnt work
[10:41] <willem> if i do dmesg it gives a couple of thousand thimes this as output ' 18.725306] cmipci: invalid PCM pointer: 0xffff"
[10:41] <willem> in alsamixer (terminal) i can see my soundcard but in sound in gui i can't see it
[10:41] <willem> does anyone has a idea ?
[10:45] <GrovRutaN> https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/1279036_10151725360042732_1303968933_o.jpg
[10:45] <GrovRutaN> u gotta love ubuntu
[10:54] <willem> in alsamixer (terminal) i can see my soundcard but in sound in gui i can't see i
[10:54] <cfhowlett> !patience|willem,
[10:54] <willem> k
[10:56] <xeeder> finally found the solution; awesome reply by Lekensteyn: http://askubuntu.com/questions/36930/how-well-do-laptops-with-nvidia-optimus-work/
[10:59] <lionrouge> hi ppl
[11:00] <lionrouge> tell me please which Steam  .deb package architectures Valve provide
[11:00] <cfhowlett> !steam|lionrouge,
[11:02] <lionrouge> ubottu, thanks
[11:02] <yogger> Всем привет, проблемка ifconfig выдает только lo хотя lspci выдает инфу по сетевухе
[11:02] <gordonjcp> !ru | yogger
[11:02] <cfhowlett> !ru|yogger,
[11:03] <cfhowlett> gordonjcp, hey just had my afternoon coffee and keyboard fingers are tingling!
[11:03] <yogger>  /join #ubuntu-ru
[11:07] <Dwade09> hi i need to know how to get the wifi to work for a hp pavilion dv2 laptop?
[11:07] <Emmanuel_Chanel> Hello!
[11:07] <cfhowlett> Emmanuel_Chanel, greetings
[11:07] <cfhowlett> !wifi|Dwade09,
[11:07] <Emmanuel_Chanel> I'm trying converting my IRC client from xchat to HexChat. And I cannot request DCC CHAT on HexChat...
[11:08] <cfhowlett> Emmanuel_Chanel, firefox has a chatzilla plugin ...
[11:08] <Emmanuel_Chanel> I'm asking help of that problem on HexChat's channel. But I got a little possibility that linux kernel of my Ubuntu router doesn't work well.
[11:09] <ikonia> Emmanuel_Chanel: that just makes no sense at all
[11:09] <cfhowlett> Emmanuel_Chanel, ubuntu makes no router ...
[11:09] <ikonia> Emmanuel_Chanel: you've been working fine in another client - your new client won't allow it so you say "my kernel is not working" - that makes zero sense
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> good afternoon to all
[11:14] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, greetings
[11:14] <lotuspsychje> just letting you guys know i found slfphone a great alternative for 12voip calls
[11:15] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: hi mate ; )
[11:17] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: you know to wich release 13.04 will follow?
[11:17] <cfhowlett> lotuspsychje, after 13.04 is 13.10
[11:18] <cfhowlett> !saucy
[11:18] <lotuspsychje> cfhowlett: ok tnx
[11:21] <Ionikk> Hey, I'm looking for advice on how to solve an audio error on a MacBook 've just installed 12.04 LTS on. Anyone?
[11:21] <Ionikk> *I'vw
[11:22] <Ionikk> **I've
[11:22] <cfhowlett> !mac|Ionikk,
[11:23] <Ionikk> There's a red LED that occasionally lighs up in the headphone jack, and headphones don't work. Anyone know how to solve this?
[11:23] <ShapeShifter499> hi
[11:23] <Ionikk> *lights
[11:24] <cfhowlett> ShapeShifter499, greetings
[11:24] <lotuspsychje> Ionikk: is your audio driver installed correctly?
[11:24] <Ionikk> It's an Intel audio onboard device, I think. Where can I install Ubuntu specific Intel drivers?
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> someone knows a terminal with coloured text (like ls)
[11:25] <lotuspsychje> Ionikk: did you check your 'addtional drivers'?
[11:25] <Ionikk> Mm-hm, it only brought up graphics and wireless card drivers.
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> Ionikk: did you had to install other graphics srivers then default one?
[11:26] <lotuspsychje> *drivers
[11:26] <Ionikk> Mm-hm, I installed version 319 of the Nvidia GeForce 9400M driver.
[11:27] <Ionikk> Why do you ask?
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> Ionikk: well in some cases it might influence audio, not sure if this is your case..
[11:27] <lotuspsychje> Ionikk: anything usefull as error in /var/log?
[11:28] <Ionikk> Well, I had to update the driver in order to run a certain program. I'll check Intel's drivers downloads. And uh...lemme get back to you on that.
[11:28] <lotuspsychje> Ionikk: maybe pulseaudio shows some errors in logs..
[11:28] <Ionikk> If I were to look for anything out of the ordinary, what would the file be?
[11:29] <Ionikk> Bear in mind that I have limited programming knowledge.
[11:29] <lotuspsychje> Ionikk: really depends on different systems, bu i would go for pulseaudio troubles
[11:29] <lotuspsychje> Ionikk: try /var/log/syslog.1
[11:29] <Ionikk> Nothing on it has "pulseaudio". And okay, doing that.
[11:30] <Ionikk> Anything I should look for? There's no "1" by the way, only syslog.
[11:31] <lotuspsychje> Ionikk: not sure if this might be usefull for your system, but check anyway: http://askubuntu.com/questions/314043/how-to-get-sound-on-macbook-pro-4-1
[11:32] <Ionikk> Okay, thanks. It may be an article I've already looked up...
[11:33] <Ionikk> Hm...looks a little technical. Anything I can do from that by the looks of it?
[11:34] <lotuspsychje> Ionikk: wich macbook is it exactly?
[11:34] <Ionikk> I think it's the last one of the original "MacBook" brand. How can I know exactly?
[11:35] <Ionikk> It's not a Pro or Air, I know that.
[11:35] <lotuspsychje> Ionikk: not sure, i dont use mac very often
[11:35] <Ionikk> Hm...any diagnostic tools I can download to tell me? I think it's a 5.1.
[11:36] <lotuspsychje> Ionikk: maybe this could help troubleshoot aswell: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookAir4-2#Microphone
[11:37] <guest_____> i have a hp paviliondv2 and cant get the wifi to work  when itry i get this uder additioal drivers Sorry, installation of this driver failed.  Please have a look at the log file for details: /var/log/jockey.log
[11:38] <cfhowlett> guest_____, what wifi chipset to you have
[11:38] <guest_____> cfhowlett:  its a broadcom sta driver
[11:39] <cfhowlett> !broadcom|guest__
[11:39] <Ionikk> lotuspsychje: I tried running the alsamixer but it didn't seem to have any solutions.
[11:39] <cfhowlett> guest_____, I've had great success installing broadcom from assets in the 12.04 iso.  90 seconds of terminal work and I've got a connection.
[11:39] <Ionikk> And it turns out that it's a RealTek, not Intel.
[11:40] <guest_____> cfhowlett:  i am lost on that site
[11:41] <lotuspsychje> Ionikk: maybe this? http://askubuntu.com/questions/191409/realtek-hd-audio-driver-for-ubuntu-12-04
[11:41] <Ionikk> AH this may be it
[11:42] <cfhowlett> guest_____, ok, first open a terminal and run this command to identify your specifics:   lspci -vvnn|grep 14e4
[11:42] <Ionikk> Well, the light is now off, but the headphone audio still comes out of the speakers, not the jack.
[11:43] <Ionikk> That's the main problem.
[11:46] <guest_____> cfhowlett: lspci -vvnn|grep 14e4 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4322 802.11a/b/g/n Wireless LAN Controller [14e4:432b] (rev 01)
[11:46] <Ionikk> By the way, thanks for taking your time to help me, lotuspsychje.
[11:46] <lotuspsychje> Ionikk: how about restarting pulseaudio
[11:46] <Ionikk> How would I go about doing that?
[11:46] <cfhowlett> guest_____, so: BCM4322 on 14e4:432b
[11:47] <lotuspsychje> Ionikk: try service pulseaudio restart
[11:47] <Ionikk> In terminal, or the dash?
[11:47] <guest_____> so what do i do now cfhowlett
[11:47] <cfhowlett> guest_____, according to the tutorial; install either bcmwl-kernel-source or the broadcom-sta drivers
[11:48] <guest_____> cfhowlett:  how?
[11:48] <cfhowlett> guest_____, what ubuntu do you have running?
[11:48] <lotuspsychje> Ionikk: in terminal
[11:48] <Ionikk> K, doing that.
[11:48] <guest_____> cfhowlett: ithink 12.4
[11:49] <Ionikk> Put the command in, it opened up a new line. Does that mean it worked?
[11:49] <matubaum> I'm about to instlall linux in a new computer, and I'm confused about support for UEFI. I've been reading there's support for Secureboot, but it's not stable. In the other hand I read about the advantages of using it. So, I wanted an advice about whether it's convenient to install it with uefi, or I will find a lot of issues?
[11:49] <cfhowlett> guest_____, terminal time:   lsb_release -a
[11:49] <lotuspsychje> Ionikk: maybe this interesting: http://askubuntu.com/questions/150887/sound-from-both-headphones-and-speakers
[11:49] <guest_____> cfhowlett: i have 12.4
[11:50] <cfhowlett> guest_____, good.  do you still have the boot cd/usb?
[11:50] <Ionikk> My problem is the reverse of that, both the speaker and headphone audio comes through my speakers.
[11:50] <lotuspsychje> !uefi | matubaum
[11:50] <guest_____> cfhowlett:  no they left with it
[11:50] <oaulakh> finally install the xchat
[11:50] <oaulakh> how you all doin
[11:50] <cfhowlett> guest_____, errrr .... you need it.
[11:51] <matubaum> ubottu: I knowm but that's not my question
[11:51] <lotuspsychje> matubaum: i recently installed 13.04 on an uefi win8 machine and worked out of the box, even not changed bios settings
[11:51] <oaulakh> yeah its easy to dual boot
[11:51] <guest_____> cfhowlett:  i wont see them foir 3 months
[11:51] <lotuspsychje> i would not recommend dualboot :p
[11:52] <oaulakh> then?
[11:52] <mjawayk> lotuspsychje: that depends entirley on the system sounds like you got lucky (as I did)
[11:52] <cfhowlett> guest_____, so?  you have internet: fire up a torrent and download that bad boy!
[11:52] <cfhowlett> !who
[11:52] <rory> lotuspsychje: Why not, I've never had a single problem with dual booting since about 2005
[11:52] <matubaum> lotuspsychje: Is it possible support for uefi works better in ubuntu than other distributions like arch?
[11:53] <Ionikk> lotuspsychje: AUdio comes through my speakers only, with both the headphone and speaker channels coming through the speakers. How do I re-route the headphone channel to the headphone jack, basically, is what i need to do.
[11:54] <cfhowlett> guest_____, or you could download the driver source from broadcom and compile it yourself.
[11:58] <Ionikk> lotuspsychje:  I'll ask on other forums and channels, as I need to go now. Thanks anyway. ^.^
[11:59] <darshkpatel> hiee
[12:00] <mjawayk> haya
[12:00] <oaulakh> hi
[12:08] <TTL112> Hi. Anyone followed this? https://help.ubuntu.com/12.04/serverguide/openldap-server.html On "ldapsearch -x -LLL -b dc=example,dc=com 'uid=john' cn gidNumber" it asks me for a password, I enter the one I did entered during installation, it says ldap_bind: Invalid credentials (49) ubuntu guide
[12:09] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-server|TTL112,
[12:10] <TTL112> cfhowlett: I am following a 12.04 serverguide...?
[12:11] <cfhowlett> TTL112, yes but you're directing your question to the NON-server channel here in IRC
[12:11] <TTL112> oooh, sorry. thanks
[12:18] <stomanata> Hi, can somebody help me recover deleted files from 1 folder?
[12:19] <cfhowlett> stomanata, depends.  have you looked in your trash for the file.  It might be there and be restorable
[12:19] <stomanata> they aren`t in trash.
[12:19] <stomanata> and they aren`t from /
[12:20] <cfhowlett> !details|stomanata, details
[12:21] <BluesKaj_> 'Morning folks
[12:22] <cfhowlett> BluesKaj_, greetings ... cuz it ain't morning here in China!
[12:23] <BluesKaj_> well Hi anyway, cfhowlett :)
[12:23] <stomanata> if i check right files was on   /dev/sda7       157694103   194563214    18434556    b  W95 FAT32
[12:23] <x13darkmatter> I am completely new to linux and am using the latest ubuntu on my dell 14z (N411Z). I have internet through my ethernet cable but not wireless. How can I confirm that my system has a proper driver?
[12:23]  * cfhowlett ... feels quite specials
[12:23] <stomanata> but if there is program that can check all my hard drive for deleted files i can try it
[12:24] <cfhowlett> x13darkmatter, easy way: plug in to a wired connection and run ubuntu's additional driver utility.
[12:24] <cfhowlett> stomanata, program?  no.  terminal command?  probably.
[12:24] <Oddity> lol
[12:24] <cfhowlett> !undelete|stomanata,
[12:24] <x13darkmatter> and where can i find that? in search computer?
[12:24] <cfhowlett> !undelete|stomanata,
[12:25] <stomanata> thank you. i`ll check it
[12:25] <stomanata> but what about fat32?
[12:27] <cfhowlett> stomanata, fat32?  you formatted ubuntu to fat32?  what possess'd you to do that?
[12:29] <xeeder> i am getting this error: http://i.stack.imgur.com/NgRWp.png ; please help
[12:29] <xeeder>  
[12:29] <stomanata> no no.  i was on ubuntu. and copy files from desktop, downloads and other folders to other partition. that install kubuntu on partition that was debian. but because of mistake i delete copied (back up of files) before coping it to kubuntu :)
[12:29] <oaulakh> first sign in hen you can generate links
[12:30] <stomanata> and i copy my files on fat32 system, and then delete it before coping it back :)
[12:30] <mjawayk> xeeder: what are you trying to do install ubuntu one? if so onto what system
[12:31] <oaulakh> no he just trying to upload image
[12:31] <xeeder> mjawayk,  yup; i am trying to install it on ubuntu 12.04 LTS
[12:31] <cfhowlett> stomanata, so, to prevent me from facepalming directly into my keyboard, at present you have deleted the files from all possible backups and want to recover them from .. somewhere?  and you installed kubuntu on the debian partition, so THAT has been formatted and overwritten?  right?
[12:32] <stomanata> no. my kubuntu (previosly debian) in on "/" .  my back up is on sda7
[12:32] <cfhowlett> stomanata, so you DO have backups?
[12:32] <mjawayk> xeeder: ok open terminal and type sudo apt-get install ubuntuone-control-panel-qt
[12:33] <mjawayk> xeeder: then let me know what happens
[12:33] <stomanata> the idea was   debian (pics and other) to be copied to sda7. then install kubuntu and copy files from sda7 do my new /home  folder (on /)
[12:33] <stomanata> but i delete files from sda7 before coping it on /
[12:33] <cfhowlett> stomanata, stay with the me here: DO you have backups?
[12:33] <xeeder> mjayk, E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages.
[12:33] <stomanata> yes, but it is deleted
[12:34] <stomanata> but after this i don`t copy files to sda7 (to prevent overwritten)
[12:34] <cfhowlett> stomanata, ok.  see the undelete links I gave you earlier.  I don't know if they work on fat32 systems or not.
[12:34] <x13darkmatter> I am having a hard time finding this additional driver utility. I checked ubuntu software center and computer search. :(  anybody help? lol. i hate bugging people with these step by step amateur questions but if i can get the wireless working i can get off this cable and out of the way of my roommates. :)
[12:34] <onca> hey all, for some reason after an upgrade, gnome doesn't automatically log in and I am prompted to put in a password but it still doesnt log me in with the proper credentials. What can I do?
[12:34] <cfhowlett> x13darkmatter, pretty sure it's under ubuntu/system
[12:35] <DNSther> hi
[12:35] <stomanata> i`m not shure. it seems to be for ext3
[12:35] <x13darkmatter> ok
[12:35] <cfhowlett> x13darkmatter, and no apologies needed as that
[12:35] <x13darkmatter> thanks. checking...
[12:35] <cfhowlett> that is why we're here.
[12:35] <x13darkmatter> cool
[12:35] <stomanata> but now i`m checking for other tool for fat32
[12:35] <mjayk> xeeder: couple of things we can try
[12:36] <xeeder> mjayk,  sure
[12:36] <mjayk> xeeder: sudo aptitude install ubuntuone-...
[12:36] <mjayk> xeeder: that should give us a better error message or could even complete the install
[12:37] <cfhowlett> mjayk, I'd be inclined to try purging/reinstalling ubuntuone were it my system
[12:37] <DNSther> I have a little question about ubuntu. I'm using a vps and can connect to it with my browser via IP:Port. I need to set a hostname, and I want to connect my real subdomain mail.mydomain.com to it. How to set my subdomain?
[12:37] <xeeder> mjayk,  command not found
[12:38] <mjayk> cfhowlett: i would be the same if it was a different package, ive had bad experiences with removing ubuntuone - also this is just the control ui that is trying to be installed not the ubuntuone thingy if that made sence
[12:38] <x13darkmatter> says i have to restart in the additional driver tab. brb
[12:38] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-server|DNSther, if anyone knows and if they're awake in the #ubuntu-server ...
[12:38] <cfhowlett> mjayk, noted.
[12:39] <mjayk> xeeder: mby try sudo apt-get clean update then try a force install i.e. sudo apt-get -f install ubuntuone ... I have to leave now for work maybe cfhowlett can give you a hand ? and goodluck
[12:39] <oaulakh> how to install scilab in ubuntu from source
[12:40] <majornick> If I type from root terminal as root. [cd /usr/bin and then [ls > less] will I be in big trouble? on Ubuntu 13.04 desktop?
[12:40] <cfhowlett> !info scilab
[12:40] <fahadash> I got Netflix on my ubuntu netbook, but the videos are choppy, why would they be ?
[12:40] <cfhowlett> oaulakh, scilab is in the universe repo.  why install from source?
[12:41] <xeeder> ubuntuone-client is already the newest version.
[12:41] <xeeder> ubuntuone-client set to manually installed.
[12:41] <xeeder> The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required:
[12:41] <xeeder>   thunderbird-globalmenu
[12:41] <xeeder> Use 'apt-get autoremove' to remove them.
[12:41] <FloodBot1> xeeder: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[12:42] <xeeder> mjawayk,  ok thanks for help :)
[12:42] <majornick> so as sudo user in /usr/bin ls > less is a bad idea?
[12:43] <dougiel> is there a way to download an entire site so you can use it offline?
[12:43] <Allu4> Hi, I'm having weird problem trying to setup hostapd on Ubuntu 13.04, i can connect the AP with my Nexus 7 and do google searches, ping to 8.8.8.8 works also, but I can't access any other sites :S
[12:44] <cfhowlett> dougiel, there are some apps that claim to do so.  see the software center
[12:44] <xeeder> somebody please help me with this: http://i.stack.imgur.com/NgRWp.png; i have tried following this guide: http://askubuntu.com/questions/235560/ubuntu-one-installation-goes-fail but ptoblem is still there
[12:44] <dougiel> cfhowlett, thanks
[12:47] <matubaum> Starting Kubuntu 13.4's live cd with SecureBoot=On, shows a black screen... anybody familiar with it?
[12:47] <cfhowlett> !nomodeset|matubaum,
[12:47] <xeeder> somebody please help me with this: http://i.stack.imgur.com/NgRWp.png; i have tried following this guide: http://askubuntu.com/questions/235560/ubuntu-one-installation-goes-fail but ptoblem is still there
[12:48] <cfhowlett> !patience|xeeder,
[12:48] <xeeder> sorry
[12:48] <Allu4> xeeder you could try running sudo apt-get install -f
[12:49] <xeeder> Allu4, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[12:50] <majornick> xeeder: reinstall clean OS from live USb.. fixes everything everytime for me.
[12:51] <matubaum> cfhowlett: I'm in Grub (liveUSB), i press 'e' and I have to apply nomodeset to the "linux    /casper/vmlinuz... "    line. Right?
[12:51] <xeeder> majornick,  i dont think i can do that; its a lot of work :/
[12:52] <cfhowlett> matubaum, that's my understanding
[12:52] <hellyeah> hey
[12:52] <hellyeah> i took lots of wrning about ubuntu13.04
[12:53] <hellyeah> but there is not much updates why is that
[12:53] <matubaum> cfhowlett: trying
[12:53] <majornick> xeeder: i dont keep critical data on my box. if i got a problem. i just pull one of my liveUsb's and install clean.
[12:53] <xeeder> there has to be something in this world that can fix it right? its not that OS is itself damaged; if i removed that One package ; restart and reinstall it; will it work?
[12:53] <hellyeah> hmm
[12:53] <xeeder> its what i used to do in Windows
[12:53] <hellyeah> any response
[12:55] <Ionikk> Hey. This isn't related to Ubuntu directly, but I'm trying to install a live CD of mine on an old RM Mobile One laptop. It doesn't boot from the disk...so I'm thinking the drive is broken.
[12:55] <majornick> xeeder: reinstall ubuntuone and upgrade && update and then restart yes
[12:55] <oaulakh> how  to mount /dev/sdb1 as $dir
[12:56] <xeeder> the only OS i will be install after Ubuntu: Arch Linux; i have read many good reviews about it.
[12:56] <xeeder> installing*
[12:56] <oaulakh> i already $dir, means "export dir=/mnt/dir
[12:56] <MonkeyDust> oaulakh  mkdir [blah]; sudo mount /dev/sdb1 [blah]
[12:57] <oaulakh> yeah i'm already in root acess
[12:57] <mrrcp> so if i have my server setup to not allow textpassword logins.. can i still use the gnome explorer to upload files etc
[12:57] <cfhowlett> xeeder, as I understand it, ubuntuone is pretty integrated into the OS.  Not sure that removal is adviseable ...
[12:57] <mrrcp> because it isnt letting me login now?
[12:57] <cfhowlett> !ubuntu-server|mrrcp,
[12:57] <nbursh> hi all
[12:57] <oaulakh> working thanks
[12:58] <mrrcp> is there a way to make it use rsa like the terminal
[12:59] <benbro1> is there a package with the 'Futura Lt BT' font or an equivalent font?
[13:00] <nbursh> hi all
[13:00] <mrrcp> i guess i am looking for  SFTP + RSA?
[13:00] <matubaum> cfhowlett: nomodeset doesn't seem to produce any change. Should I delete other options?
[13:01] <MonkeyDust> benbro1  start here http://gnome-look.org/index.php?xcontentmode=39&PHPSESSID=bda169d3a20ae79199f962bee9941f15
[13:01] <cfhowlett> matubaum, ask your query in the channel again.  I may have misdiagnosed ...
[13:02] <matubaum> cfhowlett: Starting Kubuntu 13.4's live cd with SecureBoot=On, shows a black screen... anybody familiar with it?
[13:02] <matubaum> cfhowlett: I'm in Grub (liveUSB), i press 'e' and I have to apply nomodeset to the "linux    /casper/vmlinuz... "    line. Right?
[13:03] <nbursh> yop
[13:04] <oaulakh> if eject the /dev/sdb1 then how to mount it again as $dir
[13:04] <MonkeyDust> oaulakh  same again
[13:05] <skroon_> i'm getting issues with installing new package via apt-get because there are unmet dependencies, however apt-get -f install  isn't able to fix them it :-(
[13:05] <oaulakh> mount: special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist
[13:05] <skroon> "Depends: linux-image-server (= 3.2.0.51.61) but 3.2.0.53.63 is to be installed" and "Depends: linux-headers-server (= 3.2.0.51.61) but 3.2.0.53.63 is to be installed"
[13:05] <oaulakh> it shows me that error mount: special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist
[13:07] <oaulakh> it shows me that error mount: special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist
[13:07] <skroon> oaulakh: ah that's an easy fix
[13:08] <hellyeah> damn
[13:08] <oaulakh> how?
[13:08] <Benkinooby> !paste
[13:08] <hellyeah> i tok this W: Failed to fetch http://dl.google.com/linux/deb/dists/stable/non-free/binary-i386/Packages: 404  Not Found [IP: 173.194.39.165 80]  what the hell is this???
[13:09] <ikonia> hellyeah: that URL is not hosting the file
[13:11] <varunendra> skroon, which kernel you are currently on? (uname -r)
[13:11] <xeeder> how to install .tar.gz file after downloading it by wget command?
[13:11] <Benkinooby> hi, i am scanning my backup disk (external hard disk) with baobab - looking at conky it seems like baobab has some performance issues http://imagebin.org/271549 - note: high usage of Xorg (i don't run any other prog with high usage) and the periodic load on the backup disk
[13:12] <Benkinooby> why is it not reading at constant speed? why so much Xorg usage? would you consider this a bug?
[13:12] <Benkinooby> i run ubuntu 12.10
[13:12] <skroon> varunendra: 3.2.0-41-generic
[13:13] <oaulakh> it shows me that error mount: special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist
[13:13] <oaulakh> it shows me that error mount: special device /dev/sdb1 does not exist
[13:13] <ikonia> Benkinooby: you're creating an io bottleneck while scanning the disk, that can lock other resources
[13:13] <mrrcp> ok question...  sftp works with RSA in the terminal but with the natilus is wont connect
[13:13] <mrrcp> how do i fix?
[13:14] <xeeder> by default where are files stored *files which we download in terminal*
[13:14] <KHendrik> Hey folks
[13:14] <cfhowlett> KHendrik, greetings
[13:14] <KHendrik> can anyone tell me why launchpad is offline?
[13:14] <hellyeah> any answer???
[13:14] <Benkinooby> ikonia: i can understand when it slows down other i/o tasks on the backup disk, but it slows down my whole system
[13:15] <ikonia> Benkinooby: yes, because you're causing a bottleneck, ram/cpu also have a relationship to IO
[13:15] <Rory> KHendrik: Ubuntu website is down too
[13:15] <skroon> varunendra: http://pastie.org/private/6jgophruwhowouy3biinq that's the full output in case your wondering
[13:15] <Benkinooby> ikonia: but if cpu is waiting for i/o it should be free for other tasks, no?
[13:15] <ikonia> Benkinooby: no
[13:16] <Benkinooby> ikonia: i'd call it multi tasking (sequentially fowring on several tasks)
[13:16] <KHendrik> Rory, ohh how did that happen?
[13:16] <Benkinooby> *working
[13:16] <ikonia> Benkinooby: you can call it what you want, but that's not how it works
[13:16] <Rory> KHendrik: How on Earth should I know any more than you?
[13:17] <varunendra> skroon, is this a server system?
[13:17] <KHendrik> Rory I thought the Doctor might have told you ...
[13:17] <skroon> varunendra: yes it is indeed
[13:17] <Rory> KHendrik: ignored.
[13:18] <windmill> Is it just me or is ubuntu.com down ?
[13:18] <cfhowlett> windmill, tis down.
[13:18] <KHendrik> No but seriously does anyone know more about why?
[13:18] <KHendrik> windmill, yep its down
[13:18] <KHendrik> windmill, no idea yet why
[13:19] <windmill> Thanks cfhowlett
[13:19] <somsip> windmill: if only there was a website that did something like that, possibly called a catchy name that made sense: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ubuntu.com
[13:19] <varunendra> skroon, try purging the offending package (sudo apt-get purge linux-server). Then do an update and retry. Since it is just a metapackage, it is not going to hurt anything.
[13:19] <ocooel> How to clear background colours from appearance..?
[13:19] <BluesKaj_> ubuntuwiki is still up
[13:19] <windmill> KHendrik and launchpad, and the rest
[13:20] <KHendrik> windmill, yep down too
[13:20] <varunendra> skroon, you may also be able to reinstall the "linux-server" package after successfully updating the system. But I haven't tested that part.
[13:20] <Benkinooby> ikonia: i don't see why the cpu should be busy waiting for an external hdd (it's usb connected) - also i don't understand the read behavior of the hdd - why these "waves"? note, that the time resolution is 1 second. so one "wave" takes ~ 10 seconds or more. also if it was connected to cpu, shouldn't it show the same pattern in usage?
[13:21] <skroon> varunendra: thanks i'm gonna try it right away
[13:21] <ikonia> Benkinooby: what do you want me to say ? you're expecting it to work different than it does in reality
[13:22] <skroon> varunendra: I love you! :-)
[13:22] <BluesKaj_> https://twitter.com/launchpadstatus
[13:22] <varunendra> skroon, me too, lol !!
[13:22] <windmill> Somsip I didn't know that existed.  Thanks
[13:22] <skroon> varunendra: thanks a lot :-)
[13:22] <varunendra> Welcome :)
[13:23] <somsip> windmill: np. It is useful at times
[13:24] <oaulakh> how to use groupadd to add new group and new user
[13:25] <llutz> oaulakh: man adduser, man addgroup
[13:26] <Benkinooby> ikonia: well, from my point of view, some hdd i/o (with a "wave pattern") should not cause 100% CPU usage.
[13:27] <ikonia> Benkinooby: "ok"
[13:27] <Benkinooby> ikonia: i'll do a test: i'll put some read load on that hdd with an other prog and see how cpu usage behaves
[13:27] <ikonia> Benkinooby: it's not just "load" on I/O it's the way the I/O is put on,
[13:28] <Benkinooby> ikonia: but arent ther extra side-processors for i/o ?
[13:28] <ikonia> side processors ??? what
[13:28] <Benkinooby> one sec, let me look it up
[13:28] <Benkinooby> ikonia: DMA
[13:29] <ikonia> Benkinooby: thats not a processor
[13:29] <ikonia> Benkinooby: if you don't want to believe me, just log a bug, but the bottom line is it doesn't work like you want/think it works
[13:29] <Tex_Nick> oaulakh:  YouTube, Users, Groups and Permissions in Linux ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zRw0SKaXSfI
[13:29] <Benkinooby> ikonia: so how does it work then?
[13:30] <ikonia> Benkinooby: not how you expect
[13:31] <skroon> I've added a PPA repository, how can I see all available version of a package with apt?
[13:31] <ocooel> How to clear background colours from appearance..?
[13:32] <llutz> skroon: apt-cache policy <packagename>
[13:33] <Benkinooby> ikonia: i just cp'd some GB from my backup disk to my system disk. so there is read load on my ext backup disk AND write load on my system disk - my cpu didn't show any significant change
[13:33] <bergginu> ubuntu.com is down! Anyone know the reason?
[13:33] <ikonia> Benkinooby: that's a different type of IO - as I said to you approx 2 minutes ago, it's not just I/O it's the type of IO
[13:33] <cfhowlett> bergginu, https://twitter.com/launchpadstatus
[13:34] <bergginu> cfhowlett: tku
[13:34] <skroon> llutz: thanks, weird though, because with that command I also see just the version i have installed, (old version of nodejs 0.56) while if I look on the ftp server of that repository, I see newer version avaiable 0.10.x
[13:35] <llutz> skroon: sudo apt-get update, then apt-cache policy <packagename> again
[13:35] <oaulakh> how to install scilab in ubuntu 13.04 from source
[13:35] <oaulakh> i'm already download the source just need the procedure
[13:35] <cfhowlett> oaulakh, it's in the repos! why do you need the source package?
[13:35] <Benkinooby> ikonia: would be a 'du' the same type of i/o? i guess after all, boabab is nothing else than a nice wrapper for du
[13:36] <ikonia> Benkinooby: no, but you're getting the idea
[13:36] <Benkinooby> ikonia: obviously
[13:36] <oaulakh> i want to compile it on my own please tell me how how do it
[13:36] <cfhowlett> !source|oaulakh,
[13:36] <oaulakh> when i type "sudo spt-get install scilab"
[13:36] <B00n3r> does anyone here do PHP programming?
[13:36] <hellyeah> damn
[13:36] <cfhowlett> oaulakh, sudo apt-get install is NOT compiling from source.
[13:36] <ikonia> B00n3r: all the guys in ##php
[13:36] <hellyeah> ##php
[13:37] <hellyeah> or #web
[13:37] <oaulakh> i know
[13:37] <hellyeah> try #web
[13:37] <B00n3r> thanx because #PHP is invite only
[13:37] <B00n3r> ..
[13:37] <ikonia> B00n3r: note ## not #
[13:37] <oaulakh> i use ./configure in xtracted folder
[13:37] <cfhowlett> oaulakh, you download should have included a README file ...
[13:37] <Benkinooby> ikonia: so what's the difference in 'du' and baobab?
[13:37] <oaulakh> yeah i have
[13:37] <hellyeah> yes ##php and #web this is thc chennalls you need to ho
[13:37] <B00n3r> yea i noticed thanx
[13:37] <ARW0> anyone experiencing problems with launchpad ?
[13:37] <ikonia> Benkinooby: locking, while idexing
[13:37] <ikonia> indexing
[13:37] <B00n3r> it says i need to identified with services..
[13:37] <B00n3r> WHy??
[13:38] <ikonia> B00n3r: ask in #freenode
[13:38] <cfhowlett> B00n3r, because it's their channel and that's how they roll.
[13:38] <oaulakh> now how i install it from source
[13:39] <ikonia> oaulakh: there shoud be a README and INSTALL file in the tar, read them
[13:39] <B00n3r> also does anyone airmon-ng or airodump??
[13:39] <cfhowlett> !anyone|B00n3r,
[13:39] <oaulakh> i read them but not helpful
[13:39] <B00n3r> sry im new to IRC channels
[13:39] <ikonia> oaulakh: how are they not helpful
[13:39] <ikonia> oaulakh: they detail exactly what to do
[13:39] <__marco> is www.ubuntu.com down?
[13:39] <B00n3r> okay does airmon-ng work for anybody i cant see any interfaces
[13:40] <lix> __marco: looks like: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ubuntu.com
[13:40] <Rory> B00n3r: I believe you may have to use sudo
[13:40] <__marco> lix, yep
[13:40] <B00n3r> i already did...no interfaces
[13:41] <__marco> where can I download the 12.04 installer?
[13:41] <B00n3r> first thing i tried
[13:41] <oaulakh> one thing more if i have that software in my other drive then home directory it shows my you have not permissions
[13:41] <oaulakh> to acess that file
[13:41] <lix> __marco: torrent
[13:41] <cfhowlett> !mount|oaulakh
[13:41] <B00n3r> run as admin
[13:41] <ikonia> oaulakh: change the permissions
[13:41] <oaulakh> one thing more if i have that software in my other drive then home directory it shows my you have not permissions to acess that file
[13:41] <tsimpson> __marco: http://releases.ubuntu.com/ is still up
[13:41] <__marco> lix: tsimpson, thanks
[13:42] <oaulakh> drive mounted already but
[13:42] <cfhowlett> !permission
[13:42] <oaulakh> when i start ./configure it shows me permission denied
[13:42] <oaulakh> i'm already in root acess
[13:43] <ARW0> need some help here, im using 13.04 and have a sound problem, normal output is ok but no headphones. any tip? i ve tried alsamixer but no sucess
[13:44] <gumble> is there any nice remote ftp editor??
[13:44] <Benkinooby> ikonia: where do you have that info from? where can i read up on it?
[13:44] <B00n3r> ARW0 : are u using a software such as vmware or virtualbox??
[13:44] <x13darkmatter> can anyone help with getting flash player to work on youtube.com. im using the latest ubuntu. i installed alien through the terminal and devhelper but when i run the flash plugin it says the file isnt found..
[13:44] <ARW0> B00n3r: nop
[13:45] <ARW0> B00n3r: its the only OS installed on the machine
[13:46] <ARW0> B00n3r: its strange since i have sound without headphones, when i plug them the app detects it but no output
[13:47] <oaulakh> cd how to build automatically dependencies of package for sourec
[13:47] <stfu> Still cant log in...
[13:48] <oaulakh> cd how to build automatically dependencies of package for source of some software that can install easily after that
[13:49] <Benkinooby> ikonia: ok, anyway. thank you for your time and patience. i'll try to find out more about all that
[13:49] <oaulakh> how to build automatically dependencies of package for source of some software that can install easily after that
[13:51] <Benkinooby> ARW0: i hace trouble with lanuchpad too
[13:51] <Benkinooby> ARW0: Sorry, there was a problem connecting to the Launchpad server.  Try reloading this page in a minute or two. If the problem persists, let us know in the #launchpad IRC channel on Freenode.  Thanks for your patience.
[13:51] <Benkinooby> ARW0: that's their error website  ^
[13:52] <njsg> https://plus.google.com/113294244748214217005/posts/2fUGXAGeL2i
[13:52] <njsg> dunno how legit that is, but ubuntu.com seems to be down
[13:53] <Guest23117> hi all, what's happen with ubuntu.com??
[13:56] <Daughain> Is there a keystroke combination to pull up the app launcher in 12.10 when unity fails?
[13:56] <MonkeyDust> Guest23117  yes, looks it's offline, guess we'll soon read why
[13:56] <cfhowlett> Daughain, super button IIRC
[13:56] <MonkeyDust> Guest23117  http://downorisitjustme.com/
[13:56] <varunendra> Guest23117, apparently some canonical datacenter in London is facing an outage
[13:56] <cfhowlett> http://thomashunter.name/batman-comic/gen/20130921095647_523da59f47473.jpg
[13:57] <njsg> MonkeyDust: are these sites actually known to test in redundant ways or is that just as good as asking someone else if they can access it?
[13:57] <Daughain> cfhowlett, I have no clue what thats supposed to mean.
[13:58] <cfhowlett> Daughain, the "windows" button on your keyboard should bring up ... something
[13:58] <MonkeyDust> njsg  i tried to access it, failed, so used that downorisitjustme
[13:58] <cfhowlett> Daughain, I'm on xubuntu so forgive me imprecision
[13:59] <njsg> MonkeyDust: the thing is that you suggested someone else to use it instead of saying it's down for you :-\
[13:59] <Daughain> That buttton does nothing.
[13:59] <yabbandroid> do questions concerning ubuntu phone belong here?
[13:59] <Daughain> Never heard it called a super button before.
[14:00] <cfhowlett> !touch|yabbandroid,
[14:00] <yabbandroid> ty
[14:02] <guest-GG1kfD> hi. i just installed amarok (because rhythmbox kept crashing, and banshee didn't even start). The thing is, i can't login to my account now. I am using my guest account at the moment. I removed amarok ( i did a ctrl-alt-f2 and an apt-get remove). help?
[14:02] <guest-GG1kfD> it still doesnt work
[14:03] <Tex_Nick> Daughain: the "windows key" is commonly called the "Super Key" in linux ... and is used in combination with other keys for various functions ... much like the CTRL & ALT keys
[14:03] <tieinv> super button works on laptop with 12.10 but not on pc with 12.04
[14:04] <Tex_Nick> Daughain: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KeyboardShortcuts
[14:05] <phillyj> my update manager has trouble downloading the nvidia driver update so can someone help me with updating thru apt-get?
[14:05] <Daughain> I upgraded from 12.04 to 12.10 and unity has completely failed.  entertainingly, all I have are my desktop files and folders and xchat.
[14:06] <plitex> It's the website down?
[14:06] <guest-GG1kfD> when i try to login to my account, it repeatedly keeps asking for my password, even though i put in the correct. I can however  login to the guest account. what can i do to fix this? is there a way to gain root control from a guest account? it says the guest account is not in the sudoers list. help please!
[14:07] <imfc> guest-GG1kfD: I'm not sure but in terminal try "su [username]"
[14:07] <BluesKaj> plitex, yes ubuntu isite is down
[14:08] <Daughain> Now to see if that will launch firefox.
[14:08] <guest-GG1kfD> imfc thanks. i'll try that. do you know what could be possibly causing it to keep asking for password?
[14:08] <plitex> Does anyone know for how long?
[14:09] <imfc> guest-GG1kfD: maybe you are for example using the wrong keyboard layout
[14:09] <plitex> It's a scheduled? or a issue?
[14:09] <guest-GG1kfD> imfc i don't think that's the problem. i recently installed amarok. after that, amarok kept throwing an error. i did a restart, but now i can't log in.
[14:10] <imfc> guest-GG1kfD then i'm afraid i can't really help you, i don't know much about ubuntu security
[14:11] <sj0rs> Ubuntu.com down, DDOS!!
[14:11] <guest-GG1kfD> imfc thanks anyways! :)
[14:11] <mrdeb> hi
[14:12] <phillyj> sj0rs: who would do such a thing?
[14:12] <Isara> Why the... Would someone DDOS ubuntu.com?
[14:12] <mrdeb> is it possible to install ubuntu 13.10 icons on ubuntu 12.04
[14:12] <Isara> Maybe it's just a technical issue.
[14:12] <sj0rs> Lol just kidding, I have no idea what causes it
[14:13] <mrdeb> why is ubuntu.com blank
[14:13] <mrdeb> ???
[14:13] <MonkeyDust> mrdeb  the site is down, guess we'll soon read why
[14:13] <bytescanner> hey guys, i need feedback about bytescanner.com
[14:13] <mrdeb> ok
[14:15] <oaulakh> how to install fortran compiler in ubuntu 13.04
[14:15] <llutz> !info gfortran-4.4
[14:16] <llutz> oaulakh: ^^
[14:17] <user-a> does it matter for the laptop battery time, if i use kde - or lxde?
[14:17] <subz3r0> user-a: yes it does matter
[14:17] <user-a> how much?
[14:18] <subz3r0> lxde is a leightweight DE
[14:18] <subz3r0> a lot.
[14:18]  * Onixs services means a lot
[14:18] <Onixs> oops
[14:19] <user-a> damm :(
[14:19] <subz3r0> user-a: you can install lxde easily on kubuntu and use lxde instead of kde
[14:19] <user-a> i dont wanna use any ubuntu or debian
[14:20] <mrdeb> user-a: why not
[14:20] <subz3r0> well so choose the distro you like. but this channel is based for ubuntu questions. no other derivates..
[14:22] <user-a> i donnt wanna post stupid questions on other channels (here is the right place for stupid questions ubuntu.. no offense)
[14:22] <samuelmh> does anybody know if it's possible to make an intel GMA3600 work with the modesetting driver instead of the fbdev one?
[14:23] <chemicalrage> Hello World.
[14:24] <user-a> i wil go with funtoo :D
[14:24] <mrdeb> ubuntu.com is still down
[14:25] <chemicalrage> Yup, it is.
[14:25] <user-a> BTW the 64-bit download is linked to a wrong 32-bit-ubuntu-download
[14:25] <chemicalrage> http://isup.me
[14:25] <mrdeb> subz3r0: what
[14:26] <subz3r0> mrdeb: hmm?
[14:26] <mrdeb> sorry
[14:26] <farbod> ایرانی هاااااااا
[14:27] <JustMozzy> Hi guys. I have a huge problem with my lazarus installation. I am trying to remove it, however it won't let me because of some dependency issue: update-alternatives: error: alternative link is not absolute as it should be: '/etc/lazarus' dpkg: error processing lcl-utils-0.9.30.4 (--configure)
[14:28] <ocooel> Default programs... When I change the movie player to VLC the files still open in Totem..?
[14:28] <theholder> Anyone know why ubuntu.com is down?
[14:29] <JustMozzy> This problem is a huge blocker as it prevents me from installing/updating the system. I haven't found any useful links online
[14:32] <faugusztin> theholder: https://twitter.com/launchpadstatus
[14:32] <faugusztin> theholder: probably the same datacenter is used for website too
[14:32] <theholder> faugusztin, thanks :)
[14:32] <theholder> I guess
[14:41] <shubhamjain> Even though I am quite sure with netstat -plutn nothing is running on port 9050. I cant get my tor-browser working. Says, could'nt ind tolistner ports. Any ideas?
[14:44] <tea_> hello guys : what is the command to install flash player : apt-get install ...?
[14:45] <subz3r0> tea_: sudo aptitude install flashplugin-installer
[14:47] <gQuigs> ubuntu.com is down?
[14:48] <DJones> squig: Looks like it
[14:48] <DJones> squig: Sorry, wrong nick
[14:48] <DJones> gQuigs: Looks like it
[14:49] <baardsf> I can't add a ppa repository, is that because ubuntu.com is down?
[14:50]  * gbwui is away: I'm busy
[14:53] <sj0rs> It's an absolute outage!
[14:53] <ibjsb4> just got here, whats going on?
[14:53] <mrrcp> sj0rs: ?
[14:55] <lolol> guys im using the iceweasel browser : how can i download youtube vidoes?
[14:56] <lolol> is there plugins or so?
[14:58] <mrrcp> iceweasle?
[14:58] <mrrcp> why
[14:58] <NewUbuntu888> Can somekne help me with my ubuntu?
[14:59] <BluesKaj> lolol, install youtube-dl
[14:59] <NewUbuntu888> I cant boot from dvd
[14:59] <lolol> youtube-dl : seems to say no installation candidate
[14:59] <BluesKaj> lolol, make sure your software sources are all enabled
[15:00] <dazza5000> Is anyone else having issues accessing https://bugs.launchpad.net/mir ?
[15:00] <NewUbuntu888> Can someone help me boot frkm dvd?
[15:00] <BluesKaj> dazza5000, launchpad is down as is ubuntu
[15:00] <dazza5000> do we know what happened?
[15:01] <raub> I run ubuntu desktop in a vm. Don't need audio. But it seems ubuntu-desktop wants pulseaudio. What can I do?
[15:01] <vn151502510> NewUbuntu888: how did you burn dvd?
[15:02] <NewUbuntu888> I entered my dvd-r disk and dragged my iso file into the window
[15:02] <NewUbuntu888> vn151502510 is that right?
[15:03] <green_geeky_dude> oh lordy
[15:03] <linsys> Hi, I am having trouble signing some *.deb packages for my apt repo, when I do dpkg-sig -s builder libjzmq_2.1.7_amd64.deb it works fine, however when I try and verify the sig using dpkg-sig -c libjzmq_2.1.7_amd64.deb I get an BADSIG _gpgbuilder error
[15:03] <vn151502510> NewUbuntu888: it cannot boot
[15:03] <linsys> This only seems to happen with SOME packages.
[15:03] <pfifo> raub, install pulseaudio
[15:03] <ibjsb4> raub remove ubuntu-desktop?
[15:03] <varunendra> NewUbuntu888, nope, that's not the correct way to write an iso.
[15:04] <NewUbuntu888> varunendra how do i do it?
[15:04] <varunendra> NewUbuntu888, do you have any cd/dvd writing software installed?
[15:04] <NewUbuntu888> varunendra, i dont think so
[15:04] <bindi> i have my keyboard layout set to finnish in the settings, but still my keyboard layout is english. suggestions?
[15:06] <bindi> .. finnish was my only layout setting listed, but I enabled layout swap keybind and pressed it, and now it's back to finnish. resolved i guess...
[15:06] <varunendra> NewUbuntu888, there is a good howto on help.ubuntu.com, but it is down at the moment (as are other ubuntu sites :( )
[15:06] <snizzo> hey what's happening? ubuntu.com seems down http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ubuntu.com
[15:07] <varunendra> NewUbuntu888, here's the link anyway : https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[15:07] <vn151502510> NewUbuntu888: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BurningIsoHowto
[15:07] <linsys> Yea, I was going to ask the same questions snizzo
[15:10] <varunendra> NewUbuntu888, what OS you are currently running?
[15:10] <NewUbuntu888> varunendra, i am running Windows
[15:11] <varunendra> NewUbuntu888, search for "Free ISO Burner". It is a free and tiny application for windows and leaves no chances of mistakes :)
[15:12] <NewUbuntu888> varunendra, thanks a ton i appreciate the help
[15:12] <varunendra> NewUbuntu888, no problem :)
[15:13] <jnb> how do i change my text color when i type
[15:14] <sj0rs> NSA IS DDOSING UBUNTU.COM!!
[15:14] <compdoc> damn!
[15:14] <jnb> does anyone know how to change text colors
[15:16] <otak> jnb, do you mean like this? printf "\033[1;32m"
[15:17] <jnb> yes sir
[15:17] <jnb> Otak
[15:17] <Tex_Nick> sj0rs : please, no more reports of DDOS :(
[15:17] <raub> pfifo: pulseaudio is installed
[15:18] <jnb> I know how to change is temporarily but I want to change the color permanently
[15:18] <jnb> does anyone know how to change the color scheme
[15:19] <Marlenee> how i install web browser like firefox in Ubuntu Server
[15:19] <e788b1> hi
[15:20] <linsys> Hi, I am having trouble signing some *.deb packages for my apt repo, when I do dpkg-sig -s builder libjzmq_2.1.7_amd64.deb it works fine, however when I try and verify the sig using dpkg-sig -c libjzmq_2.1.7_amd64.deb I get an BADSIG _gpgbuilder error
[15:21] <lilred> hey guys, how would I append a string with a command's result in bash? My latest effort:  echo "Users currently logged in: " users
[15:22] <varunendra> lilred, "<command> && echo <string>" or "echo <string> && <command>" ??
[15:23] <lilred> varunendra: awesome, thanks!
[15:23] <varunendra> np
[15:24] <varunendra> lilred, even better perhaps : echo "<string> `command`"
[15:25] <lilred> varunendra: you're right, this is better.
[15:25] <xeeder> how to solve this error: python-dev : Depends: python (= 2.7.3-0ubuntu2) but 2.7.3-0ubuntu2.2 is to be installed
[15:25] <xeeder>               Depends: python2.7-dev (>= 2.7.3) but it is not going to be installed
[15:25] <lilred> Much love
[15:25] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, did you install kernel 3.11?
[15:25] <xeeder> Ari-Yang,  yeah i did; and my display got weird
[15:25] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, what do you mean?....
[15:26] <xeeder> my right part of screen got messed up; it was mirroring itself
[15:26] <rescept> help... im not part of sudoers file anymore and i don't have pw set to root user. is there way to recover this or do i reinstall?
[15:27] <zykotick9> rescept: try booting recover at the grub menu, then add your user to the sudo group.
[15:27] <vmiheer> rescept: Do you have bootable ubuntu disk or pendriver?
[15:27] <rescept> i do
[15:27] <xeeder> Ari-Yang,  http://i.imgur.com/Icg4r8u.png
[15:28] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, that's...odd.... so you uninsalled the kernel?
[15:28] <rescept> ok.. ill try that route
[15:28] <xeeder> yeah i did; i am using 3.8.0 now :/
[15:28] <Ari-Yang> hmmm
[15:28] <tcfm> hello
[15:29] <xeeder> this OS is really messed up; it cant install UbuntuONE because of python package being corrupt
[15:30] <xeeder> why i am getting this error: " Depends: python2.7-dev (>= 2.7.3) but it is not going to be installed" on running "sudo apt-get install python-dev python-setuptools python-pip"
[15:32] <varunendra> rescept, there is a substitute to "sudo", especially useful when sudoers file is messed up, but I can't remember it's name. Maybe someone else can
[15:32] <Ari-Yang> btw xeeder, this is the 3.11 kernel I'm using http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/drm-next/
[15:32] <Ari-Yang> but I'm 12.10 btw
[15:33] <xeeder> Ari-Yang,  i really wanted to try; believe me and i did install it too; but on reboot it was all messed up; so i reverted back to original
[15:33] <Ari-Yang> *nod*
[15:34] <tcfm> I have a question regarding unattended upgrade. Is it possible to get mail notification if i don't have mail server on the server?
[15:34] <varunendra> rescept, found it - "pkexec" - it can be used instead of "sudo".
[15:36] <rescept> varunendra: would help if i knew my root's pw but since its missing I can do anything
[15:37] <SJr> ARGH! Cfdisk doesn't know it can't create partitions greater than 1.7 TB :(
[15:37] <varunendra> rescept, it uses your user password, just like sudo. See if this can help : http://askubuntu.com/questions/73864/how-to-modify-a-invalid-etc-sudoers-file-it-throws-out-an-error-and-not-allowi
[15:38] <zykotick9> SJr: personally, i'd try gdisk or parted
[15:39] <rescept> varunendra: i doesnÃ't... and that's why im o confused what has happened
[15:39] <varunendra> rescept, what is your UID ? (output of "ID")
[15:39] <varunendra> sorry "id"
[15:40] <rescept> 1000
[15:41] <xeeder> i am installing this python-dev package and getting this error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6137054/  please help
[15:42] <rescept> varunendra: uid=1000(iiro) gid=1000(iiro) groups=1000(iiro),33(www-data) is full output
[15:42] <xeeder> also this error has really messed everything up for me for the last couple of hours: python-dev: Depends: python (= 2.7.3-0ubuntu2) but 2.7.3-0ubuntu2.2 is to be installed
[15:42] <SJr> zykotick9, hmmmm parted doesn't like it either but at least gives an error.
[15:43] <varunendra> rescept, then I guess it should have been able to let you edit the file normally (like sudo). But you still can boot into recovery console as root, can't you?
[15:43] <zykotick9> rescept: what did you use to try adding yourself to the www-data group exactly?
[15:43] <rescept> varunendra: yes it was going there
[15:43] <urzg> hey varunendra
[15:43] <rescept> zykotick9: i missed the -a part i guess.. i used usermod -g www-data iiro if i Recall
[15:44] <pfifo> xeeder, run 'sudo apt-get update' then 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[15:44] <zykotick9> rescept: ya, missing -a.  i'd suggest you learn to use "sudo adduser USERNAME GROUP" in future, less dangerous.
[15:45] <xeeder> pfifo,  its useless :/ this is what i get: "0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded."
[15:46] <rescept> varunendra: i logged in there and then i tried to write /etc/sudoers file but it wasnt writeable or smt
[15:46] <pfifo> xeeder, pastebin that error and also you /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:47] <zykotick9> rescept: see http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/fixsudo
[15:47] <urzg> hey :d
[15:47] <varunendra> rescept, did you read the askubuntu post I linked to? Is there problem while following those steps? There shouldn't be when you are in root console.
[15:50] <spazzz> so netflix still isn't working with linux?
[15:51] <xeeder> pfifo,  sources.lst: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6137085/ and error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6137093/
[15:51] <thiebaude> spazzz, try pipelight
[15:52] <spazzz> thanks ill try it thiebaude
[15:52] <thiebaude> spazzz, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/pipelight-using-silverlight-in-linux-browsers.html
[15:52] <thiebaude> yw
[15:52] <thiebaude> it works great on my desktop and laptop
[15:52] <pfifo> xeeder, run 'sudo apt-get update' then 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade' PASTEBIN the output
[15:53] <varunendra> Could somebody please tell me where or who do I report if I have to report a troll or spammer on the channel? Looks like I get one everytime I join here..
[15:54] <pfifo> varunendra, most IRC clients have an /ignore command
[15:54] <SnowmanX11> varunendra: channel administrator. You can find them on the net
[15:54] <varunendra> pfifo, so just /ignore <id>?
[15:54] <ikonia_> varunendra: join #ubuntu-ops and talk to them if it's in #ubuntu
[15:55] <varunendra> ikonia_, doing it right away.. thanks
[15:55] <pfifo> varunendra, depends on your client
[15:55] <varunendra> xchat pfifo :)
[15:55] <xeeder> pfifo,  1st command output: http://paste2.org/fEG7Xt1b; 2nd one: http://paste2.org/apM5X5hW
[15:56] <xeeder> paste ubuntu doesnt work for large text
[15:56] <pfifo> varunendra, i think its /ignore NICK!*@*
[15:56] <rescept> varunendra: yes i did... can't write to the file. "read only filesystem"
[15:57] <rescept> varunendra: then i tried to use adduser iiro sudo and it says "cannot lock /etc/group" try again later
[15:57] <pfifo> xeeder, pastebin the output of 'apt-cache policy python-dev'
[15:57] <rescept> varunendra: passwd returns authentication token manipulation error
[15:58] <thirtythreeforty> Hello, does upstart have a systemd-blame equivalent?
[15:58] <xeeder> pfifo,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6137138/
[15:59] <xeeder> i dont have any python-dev installed :O
[15:59] <thirtythreeforty> I'm trying to speed up an embedded Ubuntu installation.
[15:59] <pfifo> xeeder, pastebin the output of 'apt-cache policy python'
[16:00] <mitch-_> what's an example of a telnet command htat uses a different port?
[16:00] <BluesKaj> thirtythreeforty, patience , there's no way to speed up the install
[16:00] <pfifo> telnet google.com 80
[16:00] <xeeder> pfifo,  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6137149/
[16:00] <mitch-_> IE i want to see the http handshake with telnet as if you were doing it over port 80..... but instead i have a different port opened for http
[16:00] <thirtythreeforty> BluesKaj, no, it's already installed, but it takes forever to boot.
[16:01] <mitch-_> ok so it's just a space
[16:01] <mitch-_> ok thank you pfifo
[16:01] <varunendra> rescept, the "read-only filesystem" seems to be the key. IIRC, there is an option to boot into root console with r/w access.
[16:01] <BluesKaj> thirtythreeforty, have you updated/upgraded since the install
[16:03] <thirtythreeforty> It's an embedded Freescale system, I'm stuck on 11.04, BluesKaj, but yeah I'm updating now.
[16:04] <BluesKaj> varunendra, rescept , yes it's , ctrl+alt+F1 to F6 ..it gives a virtual shell called a TTY
[16:05] <OnkelTem> Hi all. Do you recommed creating a partition for /boot?
[16:05] <OnkelTem> Like 512Mb-1Gb size at the beginning
[16:05] <BluesKaj> no need for /boot anymore
[16:06] <joe_b> Any fitbit users around?/good advice on setting one up?
[16:06] <BluesKaj>  / and /home is atha's necessary  now , OnkelTem
[16:06] <pfifo> xeeder, I think adding 'deb http://pk.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ precise-updates main' to you sources.list will fix this
[16:07] <BluesKaj> all that's necessary, rather OnkelTem
[16:08] <xeeder> where should i add; at the last or at start of that list? or it doesnt matter
[16:08] <CHA0> What's the name of latest release?
[16:08] <Lowfie> Hello
[16:08] <pfifo> xeeder, dosent matter, dont forget to update and dist-upgrade afterward
[16:08] <OnkelTem> BluesKaj: same appropach, I never create /boot
[16:08] <OnkelTem> (separately)
[16:08] <Lowfie> My wifi is not listed anymore, using LSPCI?! What could be wrong? Softblocked?
[16:09] <pfifo> CHA0, raring
[16:09] <wip> anyone can test my stream at this page: http://pdpatchrepo.info <- do you see a video (and play with the knobs)
[16:10] <CHA0> Pfifo, raring is already outdated, i was talking about upcoming release
[16:10] <wip> i don't know why but i am getting an cannot connect...
[16:10] <pfifo> with as many kernel updates as ive had todo in the last 2 months, i predict the need for atleast 300TB partition for /boot
[16:10] <varunendra> !details | wip
[16:10] <pfifo> CHA0, saucy
[16:11] <guest-0sg7Py>  i have asus netbook on which i am using xubuntu 13.04. but yesterday while changing its rotation its going blank. while trying to use xrandr  -q i get "cannot open display"  message , i also tried xrandr --verbose --rotation normal but it again says same message "cannot display"
[16:11] <CHA0> Thanks, pfifo
[16:11] <curfont> Hey, I have a test box where I need to enable NOPASSWD for an account, but it doesn't seem to be working. Sudo is still asking for a password
[16:11] <zamba> i have problems writing to a cifs/smb share.. i can create a new file, and i can remove it, but i can't edit it
[16:11] <curfont> Is there any way to debug this?
[16:11] <zamba> i have figured out this is related to the fact that my umask is 644
[16:12] <wip> right now, i just need ubuntu / linux / flash player people to test my stream. the problem i am having might be only on my setup
[16:12] <Manny2013> hey guys...just a question...why can't I install ubuntu 13.04 with wubi?
[16:12] <zamba> and the files are being owned by nobody:nogroup
[16:13] <Manny2013> Is there a way to install 13.04 with wubi?
[16:13] <oaulakh> yeah there is way
[16:13] <xeeder> pfifo,  error is still there :/
[16:14] <Manny2013> I've been trying without success
[16:14] <oaulakh> which windows you using?
[16:14] <Manny2013> 7
[16:14] <pfifo> xeeder, not sure then, could be all your PPA's
[16:14] <xeeder> pfifo,  there is something new: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6137206/
[16:14] <oaulakh> windows version?
[16:15] <Manny2013> Windows 7
[16:15] <Manny2013> oaulakh: Windows 7
[16:16] <pfifo> xeeder, then im not seeing your entire sources.list in the pastebin you gave me
[16:16] <Manny2013> oaulakh: any info?
[16:16] <oaulakh> do you have dual boot already?
[16:16] <oaulakh> or single windows system?
[16:16] <xeeder> pfifo,  what do you think the reason behind this error? is it because i install PPA packages?
[16:16] <Manny2013> No
[16:16] <Manny2013> single windows
[16:17] <oaulakh> just download the wubi from ubuntu.com
[16:17] <pfifo> xeeder, if one of these PPA's installs its own python, or depends on the old python, it could create this conflict
[16:17] <oaulakh> if single windows
[16:17] <oaulakh> then its much easy
[16:17] <Manny2013> I did and didn't work
[16:18] <oaulakh> download ubuntu
[16:18] <oaulakh> mount iso
[16:19] <rescept> varunendra: true. I got the read/write mode on when i activated it by selecting something else and then returning to root console
[16:19] <oaulakh> copy that wubi setup extra in somewhere you save your downloaded iso
[16:20] <rescept> varunendra: anyway. now i have sudo rights once again. thanks for ur help!
[16:20] <varunendra> rescept, awesome ! Glad to know it finally worked :)
[16:20] <Manny2013> yes
[16:20] <guest-0sg7Py> yaar koi hai yaahan sunne walaa??
[16:20] <guest-0sg7Py>  i have asus netbook on which i am using xubuntu 13.04. but yesterday while changing its rotation its going blank. while trying to use xrandr  -q i get "cannot open display"  message
[16:21] <Manny2013> do I have to mount the iso?
[16:21] <Marlenee> eXtplorer File Manager in nout in ubunut repos ?
[16:21] <Manny2013> yes
[16:21] <oaulakh> yeah
[16:22] <Manny2013> let's see the steps:
[16:22] <Manny2013> 1- download iso...checked
[16:22] <Manny2013> 2- download wubi...done
[16:22] <auronandace> Manny2013: don't bother with wubi
[16:22] <Manny2013> 3- mount iso
[16:23] <Manny2013> 4- run wubi
[16:23] <Manny2013> 5- doesn't work :(
[16:23] <xeeder> pfifo,  here is complete one: http://paste2.org/zsZNwEGO ; sorry i am new to this so didnt know how to copy the complete from  terminal but now i have done it.
[16:24] <Manny2013> oaulakh: sorry?
[16:24] <Manny2013> and then I run it?
[16:25] <Manny2013> then how do I install ubuntu?
[16:25] <auronandace> !install | Manny2013
[16:25] <auronandace> Manny2013: seriously, avoid wubi
[16:26] <MonkeyDust> what was the last release that had wibi?
[16:26] <Manny2013> I just want to install it in dual boot as an app inside windows (as I've always done) but can't this time with 13.04, don't know why
[16:26] <MonkeyDust> wubi?
[16:27] <CHA0> Try virtual box
[16:27] <xeeder> Manny2013,  try VMware
[16:28] <Manny2013> yes
[16:28] <BluesKaj> man 13.04 isn't supported in wubi
[16:28] <pfifo> xeeder, well you can delete that line you put in it to get rid of the warning, but as for you original issue I dont have a fix, I still think its the PPA's
[16:28] <BluesKaj> Manny2013,^
[16:28] <Manny2013> no VM please, I want the true experience
[16:29] <pfifo> optical mice dont work on glass tables? this is bullcrap!
[16:29] <auronandace> Manny2013: if you want the true experience then install natively, wubi is certainly not the true experience
[16:29] <xeeder> pfifo,  whats the solution then? reinstall? or recovery mode?
[16:29] <BluesKaj> Manny2013, then a true dualboot is ubuntu beside windows on it's own partition , ubuntu doesn't need windows to run
[16:30] <hplc> what to use insted of md5 to verify a file?
[16:30] <Manny2013> hplc sha
[16:30] <pfifo> xeeder, if your willing to reinstall, yeah that will work, avoid PPA's in the future, they create havok if your not a super user
[16:30] <xeeder> Manny2013, i am using Ubuntu 12.04 LTS with Windows 8 (in dual boot) ; you can do that yourself its pretty easy: just remember this>>install windows first and then install ubuntu using usb or dvd
[16:30] <Manny2013> if you have the sha hash
[16:31] <Manny2013> oaulakh: i'm helping hplc out, sorry
[16:31] <hplc> Manny2013, i thought so too, but in articles sha is mentioned to be no better, atleast in keys less than 1024? dont know if its true thou
[16:31] <xeeder> pfifo, if i reinstall my current partition will automatically recreated and reformated or i have to do that manually?
[16:32] <Manny2013> not yet, I'll be installing on this same machine
[16:32] <pfifo> xeeder, i dont know I havent installed ubuntu with the installer in years, I would expect it to do it for you.
[16:32] <Manny2013> hplc: nope SHA > MD5, try sha-512
[16:32] <hplc> Manny2013, ok, thanks :)
[16:33] <Manny2013> hplc:  but you need the hash to verify
[16:33] <BluesKaj> xeeder, recommend manual if you have other OS(s)/partitions on the drive
[16:33] <Manny2013> sorry guys, must leave now, but...I WILL be back
[16:33] <xeeder> pfifo,  do you recommend xubuntu? one with xfce instead of unity?
[16:33] <hplc> Manny2013, yes, thats true
[16:33] <dinosaurvskitten> ever since I upgraded to 13.04, video performance has been sporadically bad. What usually happens is that everything works fine after bootup, but as soon as I suspend and resume, I get gpu hung errors in my X log, chrome video becomes sluggish (not firefox though...). Any ideas? This is on a macbook air from ~2011 (integrated intel card, i915 driver)
[16:34] <dinosaurvskitten> mplayer also fails with "X11 error: BadAlloc (insufficient resources for operation)" and "Failed to open VDPAU backend libvdpau_nvidia.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory" unless I use -vo x11.  (again, only after I resume from sleep; after boot up is fine)
[16:34] <dinosaurvskitten> basically seems like anything that uses a gpu bursts into flames
[16:34] <Marlenee> eXtplorer File Manager in nout in ubunut repos ?
[16:35] <Marlenee> i need to install eXtplorer from repos
[16:35] <xeeder> BluesKaj, i installed it with 1st option which was "along side windows 8" and it pretty much sets everything for me; all it wants is unpartitioned space od 16-20GBs and it creates the swap and everything automatically
[16:36] <toxic-tmp> hi everyone, I'm having issues restoring slapd after complete reinstall of ubuntu due to hdd failure...
[16:36] <BluesKaj> xeeder, great , then why did you ask ? :)
[16:36] <pfifo> hplc, md5 is fine for verifying integrity, use sha for added security, but if you really want security, then rsa signatures are the way to go
[16:37] <MonkeyDust> Marlenee it's in the repos,  use    sudo apt-get update;sudo apt-get install extplorer
[16:37] <xeeder> dinosaurvskitten,  because it was clean back then; now its loaded with malfunctioning pangolin
[16:37] <akshay2000> I don't see any .xnintrc in my 13.04. What is display server here? Are we already on Mir?
[16:37] <Guest99480> hey does anyone know how to hack a bot...pvt me plss
[16:38] <MonkeyDust> Guest99480  wrong channdel
[16:38] <MonkeyDust> Guest99480  wrong channel
[16:38] <hplc> pfifo, but the author himself procleamied md5 compromised and set it EOL?
[16:38] <xeeder> by it i mean the unpartitioned space; now i dont know if it juts upgrades or format and everything for me
[16:39] <xeeder> just*
[16:39] <dinosaurvskitten> xeeder: so I just need to find the short-legged mammals living inside the kernel source and take them out eh
[16:39] <Guest99480> MonkeyDust can u suggest me the right channel
[16:39] <MonkeyDust> Guest99480  try #NSA
[16:39] <xeeder> LOL  :D
[16:39] <Guest99480> ok
[16:39] <xeeder> brb; reinstall :/
[16:40] <dinosaurvskitten> Guest99480: try #nothere,0
[16:40] <pfifo> hplc, its really easy to create 2 files that have the same md5sum, but if all you need to know is if that file you downloaded came across the wire correctly, md5 is fine
[16:40] <BluesKaj> xeeder,in order to install the OS into space the partitoner will format it automatically if that's the option you've chosen
[16:40] <vinceableworld> is there a channel for ubuntu newbies?
[16:41] <bwayne> vinceableworld: you're in it.  :)
[16:41] <MonkeyDust> vinceableworld  ask your question here
[16:41] <BluesKaj> vinceableworld, this is it afaik
[16:41] <pfifo> hplc, md5 is fast compared to sha, so its good for large iso's and stuff
[16:41] <vinceableworld> I'm having wi-fi issues in ubuntu - attempted a couple of terminal fixes... no avail as of yet.
[16:41] <BluesKaj> vinceableworld, just ask your question , we'll be glad to help
[16:42] <BluesKaj> describe your issues , vinceableworld
[16:42] <bwayne> vinceableworld: have you tried https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs ??
[16:42] <Marlenee> MonkeyDust : its not work
[16:43] <BluesKaj> gotta go
[16:44] <MonkeyDust> Marlenee  what happens when you try?
[16:45] <vinceableworld> I'll check that thanks :)
[16:45] <vinceableworld> Not sure if I can nail it down to a specific issue. I know wi-fi has difficulty re-connecting on afters sleep... sometimes when idle for a while.
[16:45] <cordyceps> using 'for FILE in *; do mv "$FILE" "$(echo $FILE | sed -e 's/ /_g')"; done' to remove whitespace. Works fine under /home but give "permission denied" error under /media. So I used sudo; got "syntax error near unexpected token 'do'". How to fix?
[16:45] <Marlenee> MonkeyDust : it work after i restart my server
[16:46] <Marlenee> MonkeyDust : look at login page http://imagebin.org/271562
[16:46] <Marlenee> MonkeyDust : no field to enter password or username
[16:48] <CHA0> Vladmir
[16:48] <MonkeyDust> Marlenee  i showed you how to install, but cant help you with how to use it
[16:49] <vinceableworld1> Just happened again
[16:50] <Marlenee> MonkeyDust : i appreciate your help
[16:52] <hplc> is there any other tool to check system other than tiger and rkhunter?
[16:53] <varunendra> vinceableworld1, what wireless card and driver are you using? (output of "lspci -nnk | grep -iA2 net")
[16:56] <joe_b> Any fitbit users around?/good advice on setting one up?
[16:58] <exalt> hello, does bash have a parameter to start it without the text formatting, like coloured names for executable files
[17:01] <bwayne> exalt: would ls --color be what you're looking for?
[17:02] <bwayne> exalt: i'm really not sure what you mean by "without text formatting".
[17:03] <dman777_alter> sorry, i'm rather new to ubunutu. at my work, i installed uwsgi which is uWSGI 1.0.3-debian. this is considered pretty old. how could i update it without compileing it manually?
[17:05] <Tex_Nick> exalt: as bwayne stated ... your question seems a bit ambiguous ... you might provide more details
[17:05] <bwayne> dman777_alter: 'aptitude versions uwsgi' only shows 1.0.3
[17:06] <cordyceps> using 'for FILE in *; do mv "$FILE" "$(echo $FILE | sed -e 's/ /_g')"; done' to remove whitespace. Works fine under /home but give "permission denied" error under /media. So I used sudo; got "syntax error near unexpected token 'do'". How to fix?
[17:06] <dman777_alter> bwayne: on uwsgi, they said that was pretty old and had some bugs. how could i upgrade on ubuntu without manually compileing?
[17:08] <bwayne> dman777_alter: let me do a little research.
[17:10] <dewilman> hi buddies
[17:11] <dman777_alter> bwayne: thanks!
[17:11] <jrib> cordyceps: use rename instead of what you are doing
[17:11] <jrib> cordyceps: or use bash parameter expansion
[17:11] <matthias_> is it possible to run itunes on ubuntu or do i have to setup a virtual machine?
[17:12] <bwayne> dman777_alter: looks like it can be easily installed using pip. it's version on pyPI is 1.9. Are you familiar with pip?
[17:12]  * cordyceps goin in ...
[17:13] <MonkeyDust> matthias_  or wine
[17:13] <dman777_alter> bwayne: hmm... i did pip install uwsgi and it tried but said "Exception: you need a C compiler to build uWSGI"
[17:13] <gordonjcp> dman777_alter: you do
[17:14] <matthias_> MonkeyDust: but will ist run fine? and would i be able to sync with my iphone?
[17:14] <dman777_alter> gordonjcp: apt-get install gcc?
[17:14] <gordonjcp> dman777_alter: apt-get install build-essential
[17:14] <MonkeyDust> matthias_  not sure, don't have/use it myself
[17:15] <dman777_alter> gordonjcp: bwayne: thanks
[17:15] <bwayne> dman777_alter: no prob. hope everything works out.
[17:15] <iUnify440> guys, im trying to run JACK with audacity in 12.10 ubuntu and I get this message when i do, "*warning* You have no standard location set, putting files into the current            directory. Please consider setting base_dir in ~/.jack3rc.  *error* Access of CD device /dev/cdrom resulted in error: No medium found "
[17:15] <matthias_> i asked because i installed it but it did not work properly
[17:16] <matthias_> MonkeyDust: i was not able to connect and sync and also open the library
[17:16] <OnkelTem> Hi all
[17:16] <bwayne> OnkelTem: greetings. welcome to #ubuntu
[17:16] <OnkelTem> I've transfered root filesystem to SSD drive. Should I also tune2fs it to disable writing atime for example?
[17:17] <OnkelTem> (/var and /home live on HDD drive)
[17:17] <compdoc> OnkelTem, I think thats done in fstab
[17:17] <compdoc> but sure
[17:17] <OnkelTem> compdoc: already done you mean?
[17:18] <Marlenee> what is the best filemanager for running php file hosted on my server
[17:18] <compdoc> I think you set it in fstab
[17:18] <wilee-nilee> OnkelTem, trim stuff all over the web, I use this. https://sites.google.com/site/easylinuxtipsproject/ssd
[17:19] <bjoswald> wilee-nilee, any idea if the tmpfs and noatime tweaks are safe for conventional HDD's?
[17:19] <wilee-nilee> no idea
[17:19] <dman777_alter> bwayne: hmm...after pip install uwsgi it is still uWSGI 1.0.3-debian
[17:20] <bwayne> dman777_alter: make sure you're using the one that's installed by pip. IIRC, pip installs to /usr/local/bin/.
[17:21] <thomas_> So I installed fluxbox and rebooted but it didnt start automaticly. so how do I configure it to start?
[17:21] <mhahe> hello all, is there a way to run nginx on my dynamic IP to serve a web app? I see there is a server_name directive and was wondering if i actually need web hosting for this or i can do it on the fly and just use the IP to access my app
[17:22] <bwayne> thomas_: are you automatically logging in? auto-login?
[17:22] <jrib> thomas_: at the login screen, change your session
[17:22] <thomas_> jrib: nope. I didnt install ubuntu desktop
[17:22] <thomas_> bwayne: no.
[17:22] <jrib> thomas_: how do you log in?
[17:22] <OnkelTem> wilee-nilee: thanks a lot, very usefull! One question, "fstrim /" will affect only root filesystem or will recursively walk through other filesystems?
[17:22] <thomas_> jrib:  tty atn
[17:22] <thomas_> jrib:  tty atm*
[17:22] <jrib> thomas_: how do you start X?
[17:23] <thomas_> jrib:  no idea.
[17:23] <jrib> thomas_: so you don't start X?
[17:23] <thomas_> im on irssi on an tty
[17:23] <jrib> thomas_: are you just stuck in a text terminal?
[17:23] <thomas_> jrib:  yea
[17:23] <jrib> thomas_: install lightdm and use it
[17:23] <dman777_alter> bwayne: seems pip installed in /usr/bin/uwsgi
[17:24] <bwayne> dman777_alter: how did you verify that?
[17:24] <thomas_> jrib:  no...I cant use unity...
[17:24] <jrib> thomas_: i did not say to use unity
[17:25] <thomas_> jrib: but its installing unity packages?
[17:25] <bwayne> thomas_: installing lightdm won't install unity. it's just a login manager.
[17:25] <thomas_> oh okay
[17:26] <thomas_> so lightdm doesnt use that much ram right?
[17:28] <tozen> thomas_: did u installed fluxconf aswell?
[17:29] <thomas_> tozen: no??
[17:29] <tozen> thomas_: have to ;)
[17:29] <bwayne> thomas_: right now on my machine it's using 3600K of RAM. 0% cpu using.
[17:29] <thomas_> tozen:  fluxconf not found,
[17:31] <tozen> thomas_: also to start fluxbox u'll need to tipe in startx in console
[17:35] <popsch> how can I test an MMC card whether it has bad cells? is there a utility for that?
[17:35] <akshay2000> ...
[17:35] <xeeder> anybody using ubuntu on laptop? i need to know how i can change it to power saving mode when its on battery (like in windows)
[17:35] <bwayne> xeeder: jupiter not work out?
[17:36] <xeeder> bwayne,  it did work out but somehow my packages got broken; and i have to reinstall ubuntu
[17:36] <bwayne> xeeder: what?!? wow. i'm so sorry!
[17:37] <tozen> xeeder: r u sure there we cannot fix the issue?
[17:38] <xeeder> something messed up with my python-dev; it was some ppa as i was told. bwayne  no worries; with mistakes comes learning :)
[17:38] <Ari-Yang> ....xeeder, I think it can still be fixed without re-installing.... I mean re-installing ubuntu just because some packages are broken sounds odd...
[17:39] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, did you remove the ppa?
[17:39] <dman777_alter> bwayne: i did a locate uwsgi | grep bin and looked at all of them(after upatedb)
[17:39] <bwayne> xeeder: i guess all i'll do this time is to say to look into  laptop-mode-tools
[17:39] <xeeder> Ari-Yang,  i am now using newly installed ubuntu
[17:39] <Ari-Yang> oh
[17:39] <Ari-Yang> okay
[17:39] <Ari-Yang> xeeder, what card is your laptop?
[17:39] <xeeder> GT525M optimus Ari-Yang
[17:40] <xeeder> bwayne,  thanks, i will look into this :)
[17:43] <bwayne> dman777_alter: i don't understand. i just installed pep8 using 'sudo pip install pep8', and it installed to /usr/local/bin. i guess i'm as confused as you are at this point.
[17:44] <noiro> Is us.archive.ubuntu.com down or something? I can't seem to reach any of the archives
[17:44] <dman777_alter> bwayne: ya... thanks for trying :)
[17:44] <bwayne> noiro: i'm getting back pings.
[17:44] <noiro> So am I....but upon installing, I keep getting 404 errors for installing anything
[17:45] <varunendra> noiro, it "was" down a while ago (about an hour or so), but is online now.
[17:46] <plrr> Anyone know how to disable icons from menus of qt applications, without using KDE config tools? I'm using some qt4 apps under gnome3 and I want to get rid of the icons beside menuitems to make the look uniform with rest of the system
[17:47] <juboba> Hey, I have a HP 1105 All-In-One PC and I would like to install Ubuntu on this machine
[17:47] <juboba> how should I do it?
[17:48] <plrr> qt4-qtconfig doesn't have the option, I remember KDE settings enabled to do that but I don't want to install KDE just for that :) Also I'm unable to find any documentation for Trolltech.conf which might be the file that could help me out
[17:49] <wilee-nilee> juboba, I have the feeling you have never done this, this going to be a dual boot?
[17:50] <juboba> wilee-nilee, yes
[17:50] <juboba> wilee-nilee, this machine has Windows 8
[17:50] <wilee-nilee> juboba, did it come with windows 8?
[17:51] <juboba> yes
[17:51] <varunendra> juboba, the summary of all you'd need - download the desired ISO (you'll need 64 bit) > create a live USB or DVD from the ISO > boot from it in live (test) mode, and see if all your hardware works properly with it. If you are satisfied, install with any of the partitioning options available (I recommend manual partitioning).
[17:51] <juboba> varunendra, and how do I get along with UEFI?
[17:52] <wilee-nilee> !uefi | juboba
[17:52] <thomas_> ermm.....so I installed lightdm but the vido is messed up or something.
[17:52] <wilee-nilee> jubba_, here is another uefi link. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[17:52] <varunendra> juboba, it will automatically install Ubuntu in EFI mode if it is enabled in the UEFI setup. Just make sure you use 64 bit.
[17:52] <juboba> thanks wilee-nilee
[17:53] <juboba> ok varunendra
[17:53] <thomas_> ermm.....so I installed lightdm but the vido is messed up or something.
[17:53] <akshay2000> thomas_: Doesn't Ubuntu come with LightDM as default!
[17:53] <thomas_> video*
[17:53] <thomas_> akshay2000:  kinda :P but not mini.iso
[17:53] <wilee-nilee> juboba, in case you missed it I used another nick by accident. http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2147295
[17:53] <RedPanda_> thomas_, what do you mean "messed up" ?
[17:53] <thomas_> like its unreadable
[17:53] <akshay2000> Oh, sorry! Are you using minimal install, thomas_?
[17:53] <thomas_> fuzzy
[17:53] <thomas_> asakura:  yes,
[17:54] <juboba> wilee-nilee, I got it, thanks!
[17:54] <wilee-nilee> no problem
[17:54] <thomas_> akshay2000: yes
[17:54] <thomas_> RedPanda_:  its unreadable, fuzzy
[17:54] <akshay2000> Why would a DM mess up video playback?
[17:55] <RedPanda_> thomas_, everything was ok before lightdm ?
[17:55] <thomas_> RedPanda_:  no. before lightdm I had no GUI
[17:55] <rchod> hi
[17:55] <RedPanda_> thomas_, what did you installed with lightdm ? ubuntu-desktop ?
[17:55] <varunendra> !details | rchod
[17:55] <rchod> is there someone to help me with my issue ?
[17:56] <thomas_> RedPanda_:  fluxbox
[17:57] <thomas_> RedPanda_:  Bad video drivers or something?
[17:57] <thomas_> RedPanda_:  before ubuntu this computer ran windows xp
[17:57] <rchod> ???
[17:57] <tozen> thomas_: so what the problem generally is? did u tried to start fluxbox with <startx>?
[17:58] <rchod> no one to help ?
[17:58] <thomas_> tozen: Im runing lightdm now but its fuzzy.
[17:58] <akshay2000> rchod: ubottu did reply to you. State your problem in detail.
[17:58] <thomas_> the video output is fuzzzy
[17:58] <RedPanda_> rchod, what's your issue ?
[17:58] <rchod> here is my issue  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2166131
[17:58] <RedPanda_> thomas_, try "sudo lshw -C display" to get the driver used by xorg
[17:59] <akshay2000> thomas_ video output as in? Whole video drivers?
[17:59] <thomas_> RedPanda_:  is there a way to do that in irssi?
[17:59] <Gentoo64> thomas_: i think /exec
[17:59] <varunendra> rchod, please give us details of your problem.
[17:59] <Gentoo64> might be wrong
[17:59] <RedPanda_> Can't you use another tty with Ctrl+F2/F3, etc.
[17:59] <RedPanda_> ?
[18:00] <thomas_> I can
[18:00] <rchod> @varunendra http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2166131
[18:00] <thomas_> RedPanda_:  PCI
[18:00] <rchod> that's my problem
[18:01] <RedPanda_> thomas_, driver=?
[18:01] <akshay2000> rchod: I see quite a few replies there.
[18:01] <RedPanda_> thomas_, for me : configuration: driver=i915 latency=0
[18:01] <thomas_> RedPanda_: it said PCI (sysfs(
[18:01] <rchod> yeah but it didn't help
[18:01] <thomas_> RedPanda_: it said PCI (sysfs)
[18:01] <RedPanda_> thomas_, ok, just wait
[18:01] <RedPanda_> it's gathering information
[18:02] <varunendra> rchod, Wild Man is one of the best men there. You didn't reply to his last post?
[18:02] <rchod> @akshay2000 yeah but it didn't help
[18:02] <akshay2000> rchod: Try archlinux forums and wiki. There's a lot of info there.
[18:02] <thomas_> oh RedPanda_  what part do you need to know?
[18:03] <RedPanda_> thomas_, driver and manufacturer
[18:03] <thomas_> Ventor Sc graphics  Ltd
[18:03] <varunendra> rchod, you may try compiling the proprietary driver if you wish, but we are struggling with that one too on a thread....
[18:04] <RedPanda_> thomas_, and driver ?
[18:04] <thomas_> 86C380
[18:04] <thomas_> RedPanda_: 86C380
[18:04] <rchod> @varunendra  so the problem comes from the driver ?
[18:05] <RedPanda_> thomas_, what's your graphic card ?
[18:05] <thomas_> RedPanda_: ? didnt I just tell you?
[18:05] <varunendra> rchod, we don't know yet. Everything looks fine, but the OP of the thread still can't connect. If you wish to try your luck with the proprietary driver : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2173656
[18:06] <RedPanda_> thomas_, well, Sc Graphics does'nt help a lot :/
[18:06] <thomas_> RedPanda_:  typo S3 graphics
[18:07] <rchod> varunendra, ok i'll try
[18:07] <xeeder> so...i am using laptop-mode-tools and on running it i get this response: Laptop mode
[18:07] <xeeder> enabled,
[18:07] <xeeder> not active [unchanged]
[18:07] <xeeder> ; what does not active means? anybody who is using this please help.
[18:07] <FloodBot1> xeeder: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:07] <Dwade09> i am trying to put a ubuntu linux on a usb so i can install it on another computer i am on windows, i try unetbootin but it says no boot manager when i try to load via usb
[18:07] <thomas_> RedPanda_:  ProSavageDDR K4M266
[18:07] <thomas_> RedPanda_:  that help?
[18:07] <RedPanda_> thomas_, what release of ubuntu are you using ?
[18:08] <thomas_> RedPanda_: 13.04 i think
[18:08] <RedPanda_> thomas_, use 'cat /etc/issue' to know
[18:08] <varunendra> rchod, I suggest you post your updated status in your original thread, or start a new one if the system has changed significantly. I'll subscribe to the existing one, just in case we get one solved :)
[18:09] <thomas_> RedPanda_:  yep 13.04
[18:09] <wheatthin> Dwade09, you an try a DD type of app
[18:09] <Dwade09> dd type? wheatthin
[18:09] <wheatthin> windd might be of use, download the installer iso, use windd to copy the installer to usb
[18:09] <rchod> varunendra, ok i'll post there if i have any updates
[18:09] <wheatthin> http://sourceforge.net/projects/windd/
[18:10] <wheatthin> Dwade09, what it does is copy the iso image as if it were burned, but allows you to boot from it to install on another computer.
[18:11] <Gentoo64> H
[18:11] <RedPanda_> thomas_, check if theses packages are installed : xserver-xorg-video-s3 or xserver-xorg-video-savage
[18:11] <RedPanda_> thomas_, "sudo dpkg -l | grep xserver-xorg"
[18:11] <Dwade09> thank you wheatthin  i will try it
[18:12] <RedPanda_> thomas_, it comes with full ubuntu, but i don't know about minimal install
[18:12] <rchod> varunendra, thanks for the help
[18:12] <varunendra> np :)
[18:13] <thomas_> yea RedPanda_   I see both. among others.
[18:13] <RedPanda_> ok, so minimal also have every drivers
[18:14] <thomas_> RedPanda_:  so what video driver am I using currently? maybe using wrong driver or something?
[18:15] <RedPanda_> 86C380 seems to be the proper driver for S3 Graphic cards thomas_
[18:15] <Dwade09> wheatthin,  it says theres no ntfs or fat 32 installed
[18:15] <Gentoo64> unetbootin should work
[18:15] <thomas_> RedPanda_:  so what could be casueing the fuzzy output on tty7?
[18:16] <Dwade09> Gentoo64,  it does but when i try to use the usb it says there is no bootmng
[18:16] <Gentoo64> Dwade09: try it again
[18:16] <RedPanda_> thomas_, i'm thinking... (and googling)
[18:16] <Gentoo64> Dwade09: let unetbootin format the flash drive
[18:16] <Dwade09> Gentoo64,  i tried it 8 times
[18:16] <thomas_> RedPanda_:  alright. I would be doing the same if I had an GUI that works :P
[18:16] <Gentoo64> have you tried another .iso?
[18:17] <RedPanda_> thomas_, install "lynx" and enjoy tty internet surfing :)
[18:17] <Dwade09> Gentoo64,  yes, 3 other iso's and still same thing
[18:17] <muhamed> a
[18:18] <hominpedra> hello
[18:18] <RedPanda_> thomas_, does "xrandr -q" returns any error ?
[18:18] <hominpedra> !list
[18:19] <thomas_> RedPanda_:  cant open display
[18:19] <RedPanda_> thomas_, well, it makes sense... my bad
[18:20] <thomas_> RedPanda_:  haha,
[18:20] <xeeder> so whoever told me that: reinstalling new ubuntu will fix that python-dev is wrong :/ it is still there; i wonder whats the real issue!!
[18:20] <RedPanda_> GUI is totally unreadable ?
[18:20] <wilee-nilee> Dwade09, is this a install on a uefi computer per-chance?
[18:20] <thomas_> RedPanda_:  I see bits of it.
[18:20] <thomas_> RedPanda_:  Its fuzzy I see the color and the word  thomas
[18:21] <thomas_> RedPanda_:  but not the password box and such.
[18:21] <RedPanda_> ok
[18:22] <thomas_> RedPanda_:  I type the password (or I think i did) and it shows the ubuntu splash screen then goes back to the login window
[18:22] <iUnify> hey guys can someone help me for 2 seconds pls?
[18:22] <iUnify> I have never had this issue before.  I'm exporting a track in audacity i just finished, the export comes out in like quad-time and than is static.  Only change I made to my PC since last nights last successful export was to install jack.  But, I just said, "sudo apt-get install jack" which is not the same qtljackctl so IDK f that had anything to do with it - did a remove/restart, same issue.   it plays FINE before export and this has n
[18:22] <bwayne> iUnify: that's why we're here. :)
[18:23] <RedPanda_> thomas_, any useful log in /var/log/syslog ?
[18:23] <iUnify> I've asked in the "Studio" chat but find that its much more frequent to get answers here, more people around.  :) and thanks!
[18:23] <Gentoo64> iUnify: maybe the sample rate?
[18:23] <iUnify> 320?
[18:23] <iUnify> alway the same
[18:23] <iUnify> in the window before export?
[18:23] <xeeder> i am having problems in getting ubuntu to work: whenever i open it; it starts to install files and at certain point it comes up with this error: http://i.imgur.com/ojsx1FU.png
[18:23] <xeeder> ubuntu ONE*
[18:24] <Gentoo64> iUnify: i mean l;ike 44100hz
[18:24] <thomas_> RedPanda_:  maybe If I knew what I was looking for.,
[18:24] <iUnify> one sec, where is it I set that?
[18:24] <RedPanda_> thomas_, any graphic/xorg related entry
[18:24] <Gentoo64> i think its at the bottom left
[18:25] <Gentoo64> the common ones are 44100 96000 and 192000
[18:25] <thomas_> RedPanda_:  "xorg not found"
[18:25] <RedPanda_> thomas_, if you want, past it on paste.ubuntu.com
[18:25] <xeeder> This is also the part of ubuntuOne Error: http://i.imgur.com/tMTVUBN.png
[18:25] <iUnify> Where do I chage sample rate?
[18:25] <thomas_> RedPanda_:  that isnt that simple :P
[18:25] <Gentoo64> have a look in the config settings for a default sample rate to export as
[18:25] <RedPanda_> thomas_, yes, just thought of that...
[18:26] <Gentoo64> iUnify: but the current sample rate is on the bottom left of the gui
[18:26] <thomas_> RedPanda_:  lol.
[18:26] <iUnify> im at 4410
[18:26] <iUnify> *44100
[18:26] <thomas_> RedPanda_:  "xorg not found" (nano "find")
[18:26] <RedPanda_> thomas_, check if xorg is installed : sudo dpkg -l | grep xorg
[18:27] <RedPanda_> thomas_, you need xorg, xserver-xorg, etc...
[18:28] <RedPanda_> thomas_, you can install 'pastebinit' and do something like that : "pastebinit /var/log/syslog"
[18:29] <thomas_> RedPanda_:  how do I scroll in tty?
[18:29] <Gentoo64> try shift and lage up / down
[18:29] <Gentoo64> page*
[18:30] <thomas_> when i greped for xorg I see the buttom half (video)
[18:30] <RedPanda_> thomas_, shift + PageUp
[18:30] <thomas_> nope.
[18:31] <RedPanda_> thomas_, well, install xserver-xorg
[18:31] <RedPanda_> thomas_, it should install everything you need
[18:31] <thomas_> pastebin.ubuntu.com/6137777
[18:31] <RedPanda_> thomas_, maybe xfonts-base also
[18:32] <xeeder> These are the errors i am getting when i want to use UbuntuOne: 1(a): i.imgur.com/NPtpYPQ.png; 1(b): http://i.imgur.com/ojsx1FU.png; 2: http://i.imgur.com/tMTVUBN.png (apparently some python mess)
[18:32] <thomas_> RedPanda_:  already installed
[18:33] <RedPanda_> thomas_, what was the "nope" for, then ?
[18:33] <thomas_> RedPanda_:  I couldnt scroll up
[18:33] <RedPanda_> ho
[18:34] <seed_> join #charador
[18:34] <RedPanda_> Shift + PageUp doesn't work ?
[18:34] <RedPanda_> thomas_, nevermind, i'm looking at your syslog
[18:35] <RedPanda_> could you pastebin your .xsession-errors, if any ? thomas_
[18:35] <thomas_> RedPanda_:  path?
[18:36] <RedPanda_> thomas_, /home/thomas/.xessions-errors
[18:37] <thomas_> I see no file named that.
[18:37] <RedPanda_> ok
[18:37] <RedPanda_> thomas_, if you try to restart lightdm, is there any errors ? sudo service lightdm restart
[18:39] <thomas_> no errors.
[18:39] <charador> hello
[18:39] <RedPanda_> thomas_, please pastebin /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[18:39] <thomas_> RedPanda_:  could I unstall lightdm and run openbox?
[18:40] <RedPanda_> thomas_, well, it won't change anything. Lightdm is just a DM. OpenBox is a WM
[18:40] <RedPanda_> thomas_, to login, you can choose between lightdm, gdm, kdm, slim, etc...
[18:41] <RedPanda_> thomas_, as for session : gnome, kde, openbox, xfce, etc.
[18:41] <thomas_> 6137820
[18:41] <thomas_> RedPanda_:  the ID ^^
[18:41] <RedPanda_> understood
[18:44] <RedPanda_> thomas_, I think you should try to use the basic 'vesa' driver
[18:45] <thomas_> RedPanda_ how do I do that?
[18:45] <RedPanda_> thomas_, that's what i'm looking for, since 'xorg.conf' is no more used
[18:46] <thomas_> but yea. this ran an unregistered copy of win xp before this. video output worked fine.
[18:48] <thomas_> this is an HP laptop if that helps any,
[18:48] <thomas_> An older one.
[18:49] <RedPanda_> thomas_, previous OS doesn't matter
[18:49] <thomas_> how do I hide these joins/parts/quits.
[18:49] <Rory> thomas_: What client are you using?
[18:50] <thomas_> irssi
[18:50] <thomas_> RedPanda_:  Yea but it tells me the physical video card works its self.
[18:50] <Rory>  /ignore #ubuntu MODES JOINS PARTS QUITS
[18:51] <RedPanda_> If anyone knows how to get back to 'vesa' driver
[18:53] <RedPanda_> thomas_, you could try removing savage/s3 related drivers and restart xorg (by restart lightdm). It could go back to vesa
[18:54] <thomas_> RedPanda_:  and if it doesnt?
[18:54] <RedPanda_> thomas_, can't be worse :p
[18:54] <thomas_> oh so xorg isnt all video just the gui?
[18:54] <RedPanda_> thomas_, why "fluxbox" by the way ?
[18:54] <RedPanda_> xorg handle graphic display
[18:55] <thomas_> RedPanda_:  becasue theres only 512MB of ram on here
[18:55] <republican_devil> wow windows licensing is just paralyzing
[18:55] <republican_devil> vmware too
[18:55] <republican_devil> how good is xen support on ubuntu for windows 2008 guest vm?
[18:55] <thomas_> RedPanda_:  fluxbox is an modifyed verison of openbox
[18:55] <RedPanda_> thomas_, I know
[18:56] <anonee> hello, this computer is connected to the internet through wlan0, and to another computer using eth0, I'm trying to setup ICS and file sharing, everything is OK but only when I turn off the firewall (UFW), eth0 IP 192.168.0.1, the other computer is 192.168.0.3 both ubuntu, the question is: what rule(s) should I add to the firewall?
[18:56] <RedPanda_> thomas_, but xfce should work just fine too
[18:56] <thomas_> so RedPanda_  theres no conf files I could edit?
[18:56] <RedPanda_> thomas_, what for ?
[18:56] <thomas_> xorg driver
[18:56] <audrey> could someone here help me diagnose no sound in clementine>?
[18:56] <RedPanda_> thomas_, I'm still googling
[18:58] <thomas_> RedPanda_:  wheres xorg installed?
[18:58] <republican_devil> If I make a vm on vmware and the vms on say vlan 110
[18:58] <republican_devil> what networkign config must I do?
[18:58] <RedPanda_> thomas_, /usr/share/X11/
[18:59] <thomas_> I see no "X11"
[18:59] <RedPanda_> thomas_, another solution : blacklisting your S3/Savage driver
[18:59] <RedPanda_> thomas_, w00t ?!
[18:59] <thomas_> my bad
[18:59] <thomas_> I do see it
[18:59] <thomas_> theres an conf folder in it
[19:00] <RedPanda_> thomas_, Yes, i knpw
[19:00] <RedPanda_> know*
[19:00] <thomas_> well how do I "blacklist" the driver?
[19:00] <RedPanda_> thomas_, here's what I would try : lsmod | grep s3 (to find the driver name)
[19:00] <RedPanda_> thomas_, edit /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf
[19:01] <RedPanda_> thomas_, add "blacklist $myS3driver"
[19:01] <anonee> glebihan_ hi, this computer is connected to the internet through wlan0, and to another computer using eth0, I'm trying to setup ICS and file sharing, everything is OK but only when I turn off the firewall (UFW), eth0 IP 192.168.0.1, the other computer is 192.168.0.3 both ubuntu, the question is: what rule(s) should I add to the firewall?
[19:02] <thomas_> RedPanda_:  grep s3 returned nothing
[19:02] <RedPanda_> thomas_, tryp greping "s3" or "savage" or "83C680" (if I remember well)
[19:02] <thomas_> or...what module am i looking for?
[19:03] <RedPanda_> anything related to Savage, S3 Graphics
[19:03] <RedPanda_> thomas_, if you want : lsmod > /tmp/mymodules ; pastebinit /tmp/mymodules
[19:04] <thomas_> haha I just did something like that :P
[19:04] <thomas_> lsmod > lsmod.txt
[19:04] <thomas_> 6137917
[19:05] <thomas_> idk why I placed .txt that was N/A
[19:07] <RedPanda_> thomas_, seems like vesa is already used... 'vesafb'
[19:07] <thomas_> ah...could that be the issue?
[19:07] <jrib> !xconfig | thomas_, RedPanda_
[19:07] <RedPanda_> after installing lightdm and xorg, did you reboot ? or did 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[19:07] <thomas_> I rebooted
[19:07] <jrib> thomas_, RedPanda_: really though I was hoping that would give you wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config
[19:08] <RedPanda_> thomas_, try reconfigure xserver with : sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[19:08] <thomas_> so type the 2nd one?
[19:08] <thomas_> the driver and res?
[19:08] <RedPanda_> thomas_, one or the other
[19:09] <thomas_> didnt do anything?
[19:09] <RedPanda_> try the other
[19:10] <thomas_> I tryed the first one
[19:10] <thomas_> it pasues then doesnt do anything else.
[19:10] <thomas_> like goes back to prompt
[19:10] <thomas_> doesnt give any options
[19:11] <RedPanda_> thomas_, try restarting lightdm "sudo service lightdm restart"
[19:11] <thomas_> sane
[19:11] <thomas_> same*
[19:12] <RedPanda_> humpf
[19:12] <thomas_> doesnt reconfigure normaly give options?
[19:12] <RedPanda_> depends on the package
[19:13] <thomas_> ah.....
[19:13] <Dwade09> does anyone run wubi?
[19:13] <Dwade09> or use wubi?
[19:14] <thomas_> jrib: how do I switch the driver? I run reconfigure and it doesnt give any options,
[19:16] <Dwade09> im going to install ubuntu via wubi can i get rid of the windows partition inside of wubi and make it a ful ubuntu with all of my hard drive?
[19:17] <thomas_> Dwade09: I belive you could use gparted after wards
[19:17] <Dwade09> thomas_,  would that run the bootmanager?
[19:17] <RedPanda_> Dwade09, no. Wubi is basically an Ubuntu running inside windows, in a virtual hard drive, etc.
[19:17] <thomas_> oh..
[19:18] <RedPanda_> Well, it seems to be possible..
[19:18] <aah> anyone know an easy way to get the rate of incoming connections to a port?
[19:18] <guenhael_> Hi everyone
[19:19] <Dwade09> RedPanda_,  how would i do that?
[19:19] <guenhael_> is any 12 version of ubuntu LTS?
[19:19] <RedPanda_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WubiGuide#How_do_I_migrate_to_a_real_partition.2C_and.2BAC8-or_get_rid_of_Windows_entirely.3F
[19:19] <RedPanda_> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MigrateWubi
[19:19] <thomas_> hmm....
[19:20] <RedPanda_> thomas_, I'm worry thomas but i'm out of ideas :(
[19:20] <RedPanda_> thomas_, you could install a full xubuntu or xubuntu-desktop on top of your minimal install
[19:20] <thomas_> what would that chabge?
[19:20] <thomas_> change*
[19:21] <thomas_> still runs on xorg right?
[19:21] <RedPanda_> thomas_, yes
[19:21] <thomas_> then probbaly wouldnt change the output then.
[19:22] <guenhael_> anyone can answer me?
[19:22] <RedPanda_> thomas_, maybe try a LiveCD/USB of xubuntu
[19:23] <coder2> hi all, i have dell studio 1558 model running ubuntu 13.04 , whenever i try to change the brightness, the system hangs and screen goes black. Can anyone tell the reason behind it or its solution?
[19:23] <RedPanda_> guenhael_, 12.04 is LTS
[19:23] <guenhael_> any other 12.XX are not?
[19:24] <RedPanda_> guenhael_, one LTS release every 2 year
[19:24] <RedPanda_> 10.04, 12.04, etc.
[19:24] <Dwade09> RedPanda_,  would i need the grub loader once i do the first command? do i do the commands after i do the auto migration?
[19:24] <quantumpants> hi guys, can anybody tell me the best software to write Python in?
[19:24] <RedPanda_> Dwade09, I don't know. I never did it. Just googled it for you
[19:24] <jrib> quantumpants: your favorite text editor
[19:25] <Dwade09> thanks RedPanda_
[19:25] <guenhael_> ok thank you RedPanda_
[19:25] <jrib> guenhael_: 12.04 means 2012 April.  12.10 means 2012 october.  There's no special relationship between the two other than the fact that they were released in the same year
[19:25] <thomas_> not really an option atm RedPanda_
[19:25] <jrib> thomas_: follow the wiki guide
[19:26] <RedPanda_> quantumpants, Geany is a nice IDE
[19:27] <coder2> how should i file a issue which can be bug?
[19:27] <RedPanda_> quantumpants, you should give it a try
[19:27] <quantumpants> thanks jrib, redpanda
[19:28] <RedPanda_> thomas_, since you have no GUI, you "can" follow the guide with another computer or 'lynx' in your tty
[19:28] <bwayne> !bug | coder2
[19:29] <PimpSmurf> Anyone using LVM for backups?
[19:29] <coder2> bwayne, i actually can't find the reason behind my issue
[19:30] <quantumpants> redpanda, looks good
[19:30] <coder2> bwayne, on changing brightness in my laptop it hangs goes black screen
[19:30] <coder2> bwayne, what can be the issue, can you assist?
[19:31] <PimpSmurf> I'm trying to be sure I understand this, as most of my experience with linux was pre-LVM. If I have a root of ~120GB, I could use ~10GB each for 2 snapshots, and that would give the snapshots up to 10GB of changes max before they drop?
[19:31] <owen_> Hello all. Can anyone recommend the best way to copy 30+ DVDs that contain 1000s if photos to hard disk? Tried using 'cp' but after a while I was getting input/output errors with partially copied files or empty files. There is nothing wrong with the DVDs, just checked them on another PC. Is there a program that can copy thoroughly?
[19:31] <PimpSmurf> So as such, I could create a snapshot, then use the snapshot to backup the root filesystem to external storage for safe keeping?
[19:32] <bwayne> coder2: hmm ... i was having an issue with changing brightness as well. one sec ...
[19:32] <RedPanda_> owen_, at first, try "rsync -avz /source_dir/ /destination_dir/"
[19:32] <Pricey> How do I turn off holding alt bringing up search?
[19:32] <Ionikk> How do I screenshot on a Mac that has Ubuntu on it? I don't see a prntscrn button.
[19:32] <PimpSmurf> owen_: dd could make copy the whole disk images to your hdd, which could them be mounted for retreival. "cp" should not give errors unless the disk or drive has errors (or the memory/cpu! )
[19:33] <RedPanda_> owen_, rsync is way better than "cp"
[19:33] <Tex_Nick> owen : something to consider ... CD's, DVD's that are burned on one machine/optical drive, sometimes don't read well on other machines/drives
[19:35] <borre> Hello
[19:35] <owen_> Thanks everyone for your support :)
[19:36] <puff> I just did a fresh install of 13.04, updated, then installed the netflix-desktop ppa.  Netflix doesn't work, it doesn't give me an error code or any sort of dialog, just nothing.  When I invoked from the command line, still nothing and I can't find a --debug or --verbose flag to get more info.
[19:37] <republican_devil> is 13.04 LTS?
[19:37] <RedPanda_> republican_devil, no
[19:37] <republican_devil> I thougt 12.04 was recdent
[19:38] <RedPanda_> republican_devil, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ubuntu_(operating_system)#Releases
[19:38] <bwayne> coder2: i solved my issue by adding 'acpi_backlight=vendor' to /etc/default/grub on the 'GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=' line. but i'm not sure that would work for you. i would say it's worth a shot.
[19:39] <KStang> Hello, I'm trying to get my audio to work on UBuntu. I'm using VGA for video, and RCA for audio. I'm not sure if I'm able to use both, if it's a driver issue, or something else entirely. I SHould also say this is a self-build and trying to connect to an Ario TV
[19:43] <owen_>  RedPanda_: Can I use to compare what I've already copied from DVD with what is on the hard disk and if there were any partially copied or empty files, they would be updated? Can rsync do that?
[19:44] <coder2> bwayne, let me try it. i will be back with result.
[19:45] <Guest41369> so...Im looking at links and stuff. dpkg reconfigure should give an Termial gui...
[19:46] <boeyc> What is the best solution to backup ubuntu - kind of like a system restore on windows?
[19:46] <RedPanda_> owen_, yes. Rsync copies files only if not-existing or different
[19:46] <xeeder> please help; i am getting this error while installing chrome: google-chrome-stable depends on libxss1; however:
[19:46] <xeeder>   Package libxss1 is not installed.
[19:46] <thomas_> RedPanda_:  It should give me output. buts its not.
[19:47] <RedPanda_> thomas_, what should give you output ?
[19:47] <thomas_> dkpg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[19:48] <puff> owen_: This might be useful: http://darksleep.com/notablog/articles/Rsync_Enough_Rope
[19:48] <owen_>  RedPanda_: Cool... That will save me a lot of time checking many many files.
[19:48] <owen_> puff: Thanks puff, I'll give that a read
[19:48] <kenshiro> Hi, I think I had found a bug and the fix, just write to share it. In Ubuntu 12.10, 13.04, and Ubuntu 12.04 with quantal and raring hardware enablement stacks, I had detected a low sound problem in my card. Asus Xonar DS. Running alsamixer, I discovered that by default, alsa enable Stereo Upmixing to "Front+Surround" speakers, so part of the sound is lost if only 2 speakers are used. The fix is just press down key in that secti
[19:48] <kenshiro> on so Upmixing is set only to "Front". I propose default configuration for alsa upmixing should be always "Front" only.
[19:51] <hplc> im trying to get roundcube to work, but unsure how to get it running
[19:51] <ikonia_> hplc: what's not clear ?
[19:52] <hplc> ikonia im new to it, and want it to get a nice gui to read system mail
[19:52] <ikonia_> hplc: ok, so what's not clear ?
[19:53] <hplc> ikonia i installed it, and installed mysql, i start mysqld and roundcube from terminal, but then what?, i cant see anything
[19:53] <hplc> ikonia is it a http://localhost:???
[19:53] <ikonia_> hplc: what does the documentation tell you to do in regard to setting it up ?
[19:54] <hplc> ikonia thats another weird thing, theres no man page as far as i can see
[19:54] <ikonia_> hplc: I didn't say man page - I said documentation
[19:54] <ikonia_> roundcube isn't a command so there shouldn't be a man page
[19:55] <hplc> ikonia so it runs on local httpd?
[19:55] <qin_> hplc: sudo netstat -tulp; to see what listen and what port
[19:55] <RedPanda_> hplc, yes
[19:55] <ikonia_> hplc: what does the DOCUMENTATION say
[19:55] <ikonia_> hplc: have you READ how to install it
[19:55] <jmunsch> have a reproducible issue ... need help t/s ... x dies when i hit "s" with python/opencv/puredata running ... i see that the bug submissions are more automated in 13.04 ... where and how can i follow up on this type of stuff ... and what would be a good method of tracking down this problem?
[19:56] <hplc> ikonia i dont know, i never experienced a *nix package that comes without a man page, the webpage for it looks even more odd
[19:56] <Flannel> hplc: look in /usr/share/doc/roundcube-core/README.Debian (that's a good starting point for what else you have to do)
[19:56] <ikonia_> hplc READING the documentation would be a good start
[19:56] <RedPanda_> hplc, Roundcube is a web application, so it runs with Apache2/Nginx, or else
[19:57] <RedPanda_> hplc, you should have a local web server, a directory for roundcube and a database roundcube could use
[19:58] <xeeder> whats the best playback solution in Ubuntu; i used to have MPC-HC+madVR+LAV+xy; whats the combo here?
[20:03] <Kalel> Greetings. I'd like to know how can I reinstall the Network Manager on my Raring. I cannot conect with my mobile broadband.
[20:04] <hplc> the documentation was absolutely useless, in the /usr/local/share/doc/roundcube there was a readme, that contained nothing useful at all
[20:06] <thomas_> There is *no* output when i type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[20:06] <jmunsch> kalel : does the rarion install have internet access?
[20:08] <Kalel> jmunsch: rarion?
[20:08] <jmunsch> yes ... is your raring connected with ethernet?
[20:08] <Kalel> I can conect only wifi and cable
[20:08] <Flannel> hplc: While it's not comprehensive, this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Roundcube gives the steps you'll need to set it up initially.  If the README.Debian doesn't include that, then that's a bug (please file it!)
[20:09] <jmunsch> is cable connected?
[20:09] <Kalel> I'm in wi-fi now..
[20:10] <jmunsch> http://askubuntu.com/questions/55805/how-do-i-re-install-network-manager-without-an-internet-connection
[20:11] <jmunsch> to your first question ... but if it's a usb device then it might be a usb problem
[20:12] <ss_haze> how can I tell nautilus, to make different limits of screen, cause adding second screen makes first one longer, and icons go out off it
[20:12] <jmunsch> kalel : and to your mobile broadband ... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MobileWirelessBroadband
[20:13] <Sadodah> hi
[20:13] <Fyodorovna> ss_haze, what desktop are you using?
[20:13] <Sadodah> i wanna remove my ubuntu
[20:13] <ss_haze> ubuntu 12.04.03
[20:14] <Maple__> Sadodah, uh, what exactly do you mean?
[20:14] <Kalel> jmunsch: Ok. Thank you. I'm now installing and will reboot to testfy.
[20:14] <Fyodorovna> ss_haze, check display
[20:14] <Sadodah> because i can't work with that
[20:14] <Sadodah> im an engineer
[20:14] <Sadodah> a 3D designer
[20:14] <Maple__> Errm, is it dual-booted, or?
[20:15] <Sadodah> yes
[20:15] <ss_haze> Fyodorovna: check what? you mean display settings?
[20:15] <Fyodorovna> Sadodah, just install what you want over it.
[20:15] <Fyodorovna> yes
[20:15] <Sadodah> i use Catia
[20:15] <Maple__> could you pastebin the output of lsblk?
[20:15] <nikki452> i cannot use alsamixer or mocp without being root. i added my user to the audio group but no luck. what else to do?
[20:15] <Sadodah> catia can't be in ubuntu or other gnu/linuxes
[20:15] <Maple__> If it's dual-booted, you can just delete the partition with ubuntu on it
[20:16] <Maple__> Sadodah, actually, it can.
[20:16] <Maple__> http://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=28516
[20:16] <Maple__> Install wine.
[20:16] <ss_haze> Sadodah: you can use gparted on any live cd to make changes to partition, and then, use windows partition manager (which I don't trust anymore), to make windows use the rest of space as partition
[20:16] <Sadodah> ok i need performance
[20:16] <Sadodah> what about grub?
[20:17] <Maple__> you mean, removing grub entries?
[20:17] <Sadodah> my bootloader is grub
[20:17] <weirdpercent> hi, I'm trying to get audio working on an Intel Sandybridge chipset. I see the audio device in lspci but not in Sound control panel. any ideas?
[20:18] <republican_devil> alsamixer
[20:18] <republican_devil> m keu
[20:18] <ss_haze> weirdpercent: install alsa control panel
[20:18] <republican_devil> key
[20:18] <Sadodah> my bootloader should be fixed after formatting
[20:18] <Sadodah> i wanna remove grub
[20:18] <ss_haze> Sadodah, do as you wish, but no need to comment
[20:19] <Sadodah> how can i remove grub and replace it with windows one?
[20:19] <weirdpercent> ss_haze: is that in a specific package, and if so what's it called? I've got quite a few alsa things installed already
[20:20] <Fyodorovna> Sadodah, ask in ##windows
[20:20] <ss_haze> weirdpercent: if you have intel sandy bridge, sound should be working already, anyway, try adding some driver repos
[20:20] <Sadodah> ok O_o
[20:20] <weirdpercent> ss_haze: ok thanks
[20:21]  * Maple__ wonders why someone would want the windows bootloader back
[20:22] <nikki452> i cannot use alsamixer or mocp without being root. i added my user to the audio group but no luck. what else to do?
[20:22] <Fyodorovna> to boot windows only, they are on the wrong channel
[20:22] <ss_haze> nikki452: pavucontrol?
[20:24] <nikki452> ss_haze: not familiar, is that a package
[20:24] <ss_haze> nikki452: thats pulse audio control
[20:25] <Eagleman> Is there a way to setup a system to drop like for example 10% of the packets on a specific port?
[20:28] <nikki452> ss_haze: i need pulseaudio and alsa? i thought just alsa. sorry for my noob.
[20:30] <ss_haze> nikki452: you need volume controll right?
[20:30] <nikki452> ss_haze: i just cant use any audio unless im root
[20:31] <nikki452> or use sudo, obviously
[20:31] <nikki452> i thought adding the user to audio group was all that was needed
[20:33] <Eagleman> Is there a way to setup a system to drop like for example 10% of the packets on a specific port?
[20:34] <republican_devil> your isp has technology called quality of service to screw your packets liek that
[20:34] <republican_devil> on purpose
[20:34] <republican_devil> to frsutrate downloaders
[20:34] <Tex_Nick> Eagleman: out of curosity, why would you want to do that ?
[20:34] <republican_devil> the bugger
[20:35] <Eagleman> Tex_Nick i am playing some game where the guy with the worst internet connection wins, but thats not me
[20:36] <viperstryker> syn flood your router, you win.
[20:36] <hplc> confused, the roundcube logon screen doesnt accept any credentials i tried, one has to do sudo postconf as well?
[20:37] <Eagleman> i have found this: http://sandilands.info/sgordon/dropping-packets-in-ubuntu-linux-using-tc-and-iptables
[20:39] <Laurenceb__> hi
[20:39] <Laurenceb__> why when i run nautilus with X forwarding over ssh can I not see the network drives on the remote machine?
[20:39] <Laurenceb__> i have tried ssh -Y as well - same problem
[20:39] <enthdegree> Hello all, does the Ubuntu distribution have a solution for this question? http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/91809/
[20:53] <vmusr> enthdegree, I'm not familliar with Macs, but at least on my UEFI Pc it's possible to select legacy boot mode
[20:53] <enthdegree> macs dont let you do that because they are terrible standards-breaking devices
[20:54] <exported> well thats awfully mean XD
[20:54] <risko> if I don't have xscreensaver installed or any sort of screensaver installed, after 30 minutes or an hour, will my screen blank/black out or something? or will it remain the same? (without xscreensaver)
[20:55] <vmusr> enthdegree, a wild guess would be to use a loader
[20:55] <risko> anybody ?
[20:56] <vmusr> enthdegree, either to permanently install a bootloader on the Mac, or load it on boot and then point to your driver
[20:57] <enthdegree> oh good idea
[20:58] <vmusr> enthdegree, I would recommend plop, but I'm not sure whether it's supporting Macs
[20:59] <filip_> :)
[20:59] <cosmiccigarette> how well is ubuntu running with fusion on a state of the art macbook pro?
[20:59] <vmusr> risko, depending on your settings it will go black and after some time it would turn off the monitor
[20:59] <exported> state of the art? XD
[21:00] <risko> vmusr: even if I don't have xscreensaver installed?
[21:01] <vmusr> risko, should be the case, as Ubuntu would lock the session
[21:01] <risko> vmusr: where can i edit this setting?
[21:01] <risko> note that I use Xubuntu.
[21:02] <gregor3005> hi, i need some help with firefox and flash, i have no sound in flash on firefox but no problem with chrome
[21:02] <vmusr> risko, not sure about Xubuntu but in Ubuntu it's at Brightess and Lock
[21:03] <vmusr> risko, haven't actually used Xubuntu, so might be a different case there
[21:05] <thomas_> hm.
[21:05] <thomas_> RedPanda_:  I reinstalled ubuntu. then installed xorg
[21:06] <thomas_> tryed to reconfigure still no output
[21:06] <wilee-nilee> gregor3005, chrome has flaah built in, install ubuntu-restricted-extras for flash or the flash plugin
[21:06] <usuario> jose
[21:06] <wilee-nilee> flash*
[21:07] <thomas_> wilee-nilee:  Im trying to change xorg's video driver. however sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg gives no output
[21:07] <wilee-nilee> why are you asking me
[21:07] <thomas_> Idk,
[21:07] <exported> thomas_, what exactly are you trying to do? :o
[21:07] <thomas_> exported:  I just reinstalled the mini ubuntu
[21:08] <thomas_> and well The video is fuzzy.
[21:08] <thomas_> or was.
[21:08] <exported> thomas_, so what made you decide to reinstall xorg? lol
[21:08] <thomas_> xorg is using the basic versa driver.
[21:08] <thomas_> exported:  nope. xorg isnt included in ubuntu mini.
[21:09] <thomas_> g
[21:09] <exported> thomas_, no xorg is the server what allows video to be displayed/rendered depending on the driver you need decides which one you install
[21:09] <exported> thomas_, what do you need to do now? is xorg working or what?
[21:09] <thomas_> exported:  xorg is giving fuzzy video.
[21:09] <wilee-nilee> gregor3005, Heh, I miss read that, you have flash in FF but no sound, is sound working otherwise?
[21:09] <thomas_> Im trying to change the driver
[21:10] <exported> thomas_, well what driver do you have install right now??
[21:10] <exported> intalled*
[21:10] <exported> installed...
[21:10] <gregor3005> wilee-nilee: with the other applications i have no sound problem
[21:10] <thomas_> exported: its using versa atm
[21:10] <exported> thomas_, you mean vesa?
[21:10] <risko> where can I edit screen-lock settings?
[21:10] <thomas_> yes.
[21:10] <exported> thomas_, pm?
[21:10] <wilee-nilee> gregor3005, Have you looked at the flash control by right clicking a flash situation?
[21:11] <thomas_> sure.
[21:11] <gregor3005> wilee-nilee: i tested a youtube video again and now i get an connection error, wired
[21:11] <loa> what is ok to install on notebook?
[21:11] <loa> 12.04?
[21:11] <wilee-nilee> gregor3005, How did you install flash?
[21:12] <risko> loa, how much is the RAM on the notebook?
[21:12] <loa> it is quite old, i am thinking about lubuntu
[21:12] <gregor3005> wilee-nilee: with the software-center
[21:12] <loa> risko, 4gb
[21:12] <wilee-nilee> gregor3005, the plugin?
[21:12] <risko> loa, get Xubuntu's 32bit.
[21:12] <kostkon> loa, what's the cpu and graphics card
[21:12] <risko> loa, Xubuntu runs lightning-fast on notebooks, Ubuntu is kinda resource-hungry and would run abit slow.
[21:12] <loa> risko, 32bit will support 4gb?
[21:12] <wilee-nilee> loa, you can install any version with that amount of ram.
[21:12] <gregor3005> wilee-nilee: yes
[21:13] <dog-food> I'm trying to install ubuntu 13.04 on sony vaio pro and after booting from usb stick and selecting install or try ubuntu without installing the usb stick light flashes for a second and then stops nothing happens
[21:13] <risko> loa, no, 32bit only supports 3gb.
[21:13] <risko> loa, if you want to use more than 3gb, use 64bit.
[21:13] <wilee-nilee> gregor3005, Install the ubuntu-restricted-extras it has more codecs, and the ms-fonts.
[21:13] <risko> loa, if you use the 32bit version, Xubuntu/any other distro will only use 3gb of your RAM.
[21:13] <kostkon> risko, actually no, the 32bit kernel is pae so i can support more than 3gb
[21:13] <risko> use 64bit to use your full-ram.
[21:13] <gregor3005> wilee-nilee: thx i try it
[21:13] <kostkon> it*
[21:13] <risko> kostkon: xubuntu does not have pae.
[21:13] <risko> but you can install it if you want.
[21:14] <loa> ok, thx
[21:14] <kostkon> any pc with 4gb is not old imo
[21:14] <seed_>  /join #ashwini
[21:14] <loa> just intresting what version install 12.04 or 13.04
[21:14] <kostkon> laptop*
[21:15] <loa> i want install lxde becouse i understand how to set f-keys under it )
[21:15] <kostkon> loa, get lubuntu then, any version, none of them is lts
[21:16] <kostkon> anyway
[21:16] <loa> kostkon, hmm? are not they have equal reps?
[21:18] <kostkon> loa, lubuntu relates pacakges will only receive updates for 18months
[21:18] <kostkon> related*
[21:18] <loa> ok )
[21:19] <kostkon> loa, i mean in 12.04, in 13.04 only 8
[21:19] <dougbb> I am getting an apt-get message about a missing PGP key, but I can see the key on the key servers. How do I get apt to import the key?
[21:20] <wilee-nilee> dougbb, the key shown in the update?
[21:20] <dougbb> yes, the key id is in the error message, and I can fetch it using 'gpg --recv-key'
[21:21] <wilee-nilee> dougbb, sudo apt-key adv --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv-keys "put key here"
[21:21] <dougbb> Ok
[21:22] <dougbb> w00t!
[21:22] <dougbb> Thanks wilee-nilee :)
[21:22]  * dougbb adds to his apt cheat sheet
[21:22] <gregor3005> wilee-nilee: sry no sound
[21:23] <FidbecK> Hello people. I have a problem with the bluetooth in Ubuntu. Can anyone help me?
[21:23] <gregor3005> wilee-nilee: and now the youtube video crashed with an error message that an error occured, i make a screenshot
[21:24] <dougbb> FidbecK: go ahead and ask your question :)
[21:24] <nikki452> i cannot use alsamixer or mocp without being root. i added my user to the audio group but no luck. what else to do?
[21:24] <wilee-nilee> gregor3005, not sure beyond that.
[21:24] <FidbecK> dougbb: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2175889
[21:27] <gregor3005> wilee-nilee: i get that error https://www.dropbox.com/s/zjd5wj9hp894q1y/Screenshot%20-%202013-09-21%20-%2023%3A24%3A59.png
[21:27] <dougbb> FidbecK: have you ever successfully sent files from that phone to another device?
[21:28] <wilee-nilee> nikki452, you have Frankenstein'd the setup it sounds like, you might try starting over, or give a detailed description to the channel to get help.
[21:28] <tokam> I am a developer. How to unbind ctrl+space from the ubuntu's settings?
[21:29] <wilee-nilee> gregor3005, Can you translate that?
[21:29] <dog-food> I'm trying to install ubuntu 13.04 on sony vaio pro and after booting from usb stick and selecting install or try ubuntu without installing the usb stick light flashes for a second and then stops nothing happens last line I see is "fb: conflicting fb hw usage inteldrmfb"
[21:29] <linxcod> hi, quick command line question peeps when I type "groups" at the command line it lists the groups I'm in right?
[21:29] <wilee-nilee> nikki452, what does uname -a say
[21:30] <FidbecK> Yes dougbb. On Windows I can send things without any problem. I also had (a few time ago) eOS and I've installed blueman and it worked fine (to a certain point) since I had over 2k photos and couldn't send them over bluetooth like I do with Windows
[21:30] <linxcod> it lists my user name as well does this mean that my user name is also it's own group?
[21:30] <zykotick9> linxcod: correct.
[21:30] <nikki452> wilee-nilee: Linux bunserv 3.8.0-30-generic #44~precise1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Aug 23 17:33:45 UTC 2013 i686 athlon i386 GNU/Linux
[21:30] <gregor3005> wilee-nilee: "an error occurs, try it again later, further details"
[21:30] <zykotick9> linxcod: correct again.
[21:30] <wilee-nilee> gregor3005, hmm, not sure really, this a stock ubuntu install basically?
[21:30] <dougbb> FidbecK: Ok, I'm not really familiar with file transfer over bluetooth, perhaps someone else can assist you
[21:30] <gregor3005> wilee-nilee: yes
[21:31] <tokam> I already checked it in the system-admin-cp. is not there an more advanced list of ubuntu key bindings?
[21:31] <wilee-nilee> gregor3005, Not sure.
[21:31] <nikki452> wilee-nilee: from looking around the net my user needed added to the audio group. i did that and no luck. i installed pulse audio at suggestion of another here.
[21:31] <linxcod> cool that's what I though but my unix instructor marked me down for indicating such
[21:31] <linxcod> thanks zykotick9
[21:31] <FidbecK> I really want to go full Linux but this small things keep pushing me back to win :S
[21:31] <nikki452> wilee-nilee: using sudo alsamixer all is well
[21:31] <Pricey> How do I stop 'alt' bringing up the unity search thing?
[21:32] <austinbv> does anyone have any experice building debs for distribution?
[21:32] <Pricey> austinbv: What's the real question? (yes)
[21:32] <wilee-nilee> nikki452, pulse audio should have been there already, sound is not my forte, however you description is kind of disjunct, with mention of root access, you might want to start a thread at the UF.
[21:32] <gregor3005> wilee-nilee: lol i removed flash and tried the youtube video again and flash work but the software center told me it is not installed :-D
[21:32] <dougbb> dog-food: do you have multiple graphics cards in that system?
[21:33] <wilee-nilee> gregor3005, YOu installed the restricted extras it has flash.
[21:33] <dougbb> FidbecK: yes, I feel your pain on that, I had to boot windows the other day, made me cry a little on the inside :)
[21:33] <gregor3005> wilee-nilee: ah
[21:33] <wilee-nilee> gregor3005, Thats what I always install.
[21:33] <FidbecK> Please someone help me with my bluetooth problem :S
[21:33] <nikki452> wilee-nilee: UF? my problem is alsamixer or mocp will only work if i give the command sudo before alsamixer or mocp
[21:33] <gregor3005> wilee-nilee: thx for the hint and the solution
[21:34] <FidbecK> dougbb: looool
[21:34] <wilee-nilee> nikki452, Ubuntu forums, there are some regulars there that may be helpful.
[21:34] <nikki452> wilee-nilee: ok, thanks.
[21:35] <dog-food> dougbb, no
[21:35] <wilee-nilee> nikki452, I'm not seeing the one user I know, knows this stuff here right now, is all, good luck. ;)
[21:35] <zykotick9> dog-food: have you tried nomodeset?  see "/msg ubottu nomodeset" for details.
[21:36] <treehau55> I had a scare recently: was updating about 150 megs worth of packages, then had an error with apt-get installing (I think it was on a python package). ANyways, go to restart system since its running slow, I boot up to a black screen. Few more times, so I go into repair mode. run fcsk, fixes a whole lot of "orphaned inodes". Ok great, I run the dpkg repair tool, cant really connect to internet, so I ctrl+c, now everytime I boot u
[21:36] <treehau55> p, black screen. I have to press esc. I have an error with my plymouth script, and it also hangs on the configure network line
[21:36] <Pricey> How do I stop 'alt' bringing up the unity search thing?
[21:36] <dog-food> works now I switched from uefi to legacy boot
[21:36] <dog-food> bios
[21:36] <dougbb> dog-food: ah, great!
[21:36] <austinbv> Pricey: Sorry I asked my question in the debian channel and got ignored so I didn't want to spew if noone around knew.
[21:36] <austinbv> I have found two ways to build debs first with dpkg-buildpackage. second with dpkg-deb --build.  I cannot find a lot of resources on the difference between the two and which is perfered anyone know the correct way to build debs?  I perfer the former in organization but am not sure the right way
[21:37] <Pricey> austinbv: I'm evil: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/
[21:37] <wilee-nilee> treehau55, This have proprietary graphic drivers per-chance, sounds like multiple problems maybe.
[21:37] <treehau55> austinbv, check the man page, the --build flag is probably just an alias, they are both probably the same
[21:38] <austinbv> treehau55: deb-dpkg and deb-buildpackage require totally different source organization
[21:38] <treehau55> wilee-nilee, yes I do have proprietary graphics, but those packages did not update (I dont remember seeing flgrx on the list of updates)
[21:39] <austinbv> Pricey: I have read it cover to cover :)
[21:39] <wilee-nilee> treehau55, If your kernel did they may have not followed is all.
[21:39] <wilee-nilee> !nomodeset | treehau55 maybe try this
[21:39] <treehau55> wilee-nilee,  I am trying to check all my var/logs for this plymouth error,  do you know where the script is located?
[21:40] <wilee-nilee> not really never had to mess with that
[21:40] <Pricey> austinbv: See there's the mistake, you need to read it ~12 times for it to go in. Hmm now that I read it, it doesn't even do the process I remember going through. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PbuilderHowto
[21:40] <gregor3005> wilee-nilee: wired not all youtubeclips work, hm
[21:41] <austinbv> Pricey: did you just google me an answer :P
[21:41] <linxcod> zykotick9: how can I add another user to my group?
[21:41] <wilee-nilee> gregor3005, Some are set for for the new whatever its called media thang be sure they are flash video's
[21:42] <Pricey> austinbv: I don't think I even gave you an answer!
[21:42] <rambo> !lista
[21:42] <austinbv> Pricey: s/answer/resource
[21:44] <wilee-nilee> gregor3005, You could make another user, and see if this is the same there.
[21:44] <gregor3005> wilee-nilee: i tried that, now with the installed flash plugin and the flash stuck after one second and repeat
[21:46] <wilee-nilee> gregor3005, out of my area of any real answers is all.
[21:46] <gregor3005> wilee-nilee: np, i try to remove and install some packages
[21:47] <wilee-nilee> gregor3005, If you remove use purge and make sure they are gone is all configs can be problematic
[21:47] <gregor3005> wilee-nilee: thx
[21:47] <wilee-nilee> np
[21:47] <thomas_> How do I change xorgs video driver?
[21:48] <thomas_> Im using versa atm but I belive I need to use savage
[21:48] <erkan^> I use xchat on ubuntu 13.04, it is problem. if i want this indicator. than get i again connect
[21:49] <exported> vesa?
[21:49] <exported> lol
[21:51] <dougbb> erkan^: sorry, your question is not clear, can you rephrase it?
[21:51] <wilee-nilee> erkan^, can you translate to understandable.
[21:53] <erkan^> I have clicked an icon [X] and I have chosen minimize. xChat will be in indicator (active). When I click xChat of indicator. xChat is be again new connect
[21:54] <linxcod> how can I add another user to my group?
[21:54] <wilee-nilee> erkan^, where is the indicator?
[21:54] <dougbb> linxcod: vi /etc/groups
[21:55] <reisio> linxcod: gpasswd
[21:55] <erkan^> top right of unity; a icon: Mail, wilee-nilee
[21:55] <wilee-nilee> erkan^, don't click it there, I see this in windows as well use the unity bar.
[21:56] <erkan^> do you use xChat too, wilee-nilee ?
[21:56] <wilee-nilee> hexchat
[21:56] <wilee-nilee> but in the gnome-shell
[21:56] <erkan^> ah i see
[21:56] <Laurenceb__> hi
[21:56] <Laurenceb__> how can i convert dwg to eps?
[21:57] <linxcod> so i type gpasswd -a myuname otheruname ?
[21:57] <reisio> Laurenceb__: I'd try with imagemagick's 'convert' first (convert foo.dwg bar.eps)
[21:57] <Laurenceb__> ok
[21:57] <nikki452> wilee-nilee: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6138626/ audio group is not appearing where i think it sould. maybe thats the problem?
[21:58] <Laurenceb__> convert: no decode delegate for this image format `Base_adaptor.dwg' @ constitute.c/ReadImage/530.
[21:58] <thomas_> Hello. Im trying to switch the driver that xorg loads. How do I Do this?
[22:00] <reisio> Laurenceb__: number of options listed here http://askubuntu.com/questions/48700/is-there-software-that-can-view-dwg-files including open source and not
[22:00] <wilee-nilee> nikki452, No idea myself really, I have never had a problem in this area, so have not really bothered in knowing anything about it.
[22:00] <Laurenceb__> yeah draftwight is huge
[22:00] <Laurenceb__> is the a ubuntu lx-viewer download?
[22:01] <reisio> Laurenceb__: I don't know which might be in the repos, apt-cache search dwg might
[22:02] <Laurenceb__> ill try some windows executables in wine
[22:02] <reisio> ...
[22:02] <nikki452> wilee-nilee: thanks for the help. much appreciated
[22:02] <wilee-nilee> mmm, wine I prefer a merlot
[22:03] <wilee-nilee> nikki452, sure, no real help though.
[22:06] <nikki452> wilee-nilee: still, thanks for your time
[22:06] <wilee-nilee> np
[22:09] <gregor3005> wilee-nilee: i found no solution, i tried it also days before, i will kick firefox and use chrome
[22:10] <livingtank> Ubuntu thinks my mouse is a keyboard, so it doens't work. Anyone have any words of wisdom?
[22:10] <gregor3005> wilee-nilee: under fedora i never had a problem with that
[22:11] <wilee-nilee> livingtank, this a special mouse, like a gaming one?
[22:12] <WillTablet> What is the fastest way to set up a VPN on my server? I am on my tablet atm and need a vpn and free ones are so sloow
[22:12] <Ben64> !openvpn | WillTablet
[22:13] <livingtank> yep
[22:13] <livingtank> gaming mouse
[22:15] <wilee-nilee> livingtank, You might look on the web with that mouse and ubuntu and see if there are answers, you would at the least want to identify it here, and hope someone knows.
[22:15] <WillTablet> Thanks ben64, sorry if I was wasting your time
[22:15] <duanedesign> how do you change your ssh login password?
[22:16] <reisio> if you aren't using keys, just 'passwd'
[22:16] <reisio> but you should use keys :)
[22:16] <duanedesign> reisio: I keep getting passwd: Authentication token manipulation error
[22:16] <reisio> mmm, errors, errors are bad
[22:16] <dougbb> WillTablet: vpns are always going to be slower than line speed by definition ... openvpn is generally considered the best option, and there are various things you can configure which may improve the speed (although sometimes at the cost of security)
[22:17] <nathan> Is it possible to get two video cards to work in 12.04?  I can get dual disply if the video card had dual outputs
[22:17] <brandonabandon> hello
[22:17] <p1l0t> I can't use AskUbuntu on stackexchange because I have no reputation. Since I have no reputation I can't ask, comment, vote or anything but how do I get reputation if I can't do these things? #catch22
[22:17] <WillTablet> I was just thinking since I'm using a free one with probably loads of people on it, one on my vps would be better
[22:18] <duanedesign> reisio: well since it is giving me the password option maybe I will kjust go to the keys and cross my fingers. trouble is I do not have physicall access to the server. So if i am locked out, i am really locked out
[22:18] <trism> p1l0t: you can ask and answer without reputation, just need 50 to comment
[22:18] <dougbb> WillTablet: that depends on a lot of things, but it's definitely worth a try
[22:18] <brandonabandon> someone walk an ubuntu setup mac 10.6 virtualbox?
[22:18] <WillTablet> I see no howto option
[22:18] <p1l0t> trism: negative because I can't ask without tags and tags requre reputation
[22:18] <dougbb> openvpn isn't terribly hard to set up, and they have good docs on their site
[22:19] <xirre> So I used DDoS Deflater to aid in mitigating some attacks. At first when I ran it there was an error. I had to edit ddos.sh so that the first line was #!/bin/bash instead of #!/bin/sh so that it would work. After that it said that usr/local/apf/apf wasn't able to be located. I hadn't installed the apf-firewall. Now I installed it, changed the DDoS Deflater directory to APF="/usr/sbin/apf" since that's the usage directory for the
[22:19] <xirre> command "apf" and then ran the command "ddos" to test it. I used my phone to DoS myself for testing and apparently I got this error now.
[22:19] <trism> p1l0t: you only need rep to create new tags
[22:19] <trism> p1l0t: you can use existing tags without any
[22:19] <xirre> iptables: No chain/target/match by that name.
[22:19] <xirre> iptables: No chain/target/match by that name.
[22:19] <xirre> apf(13093): (trust) added deny all to/from 208.54.90.210
[22:19] <xirre> root@****-****:~# apf(13777): {trust} removed 208.54.90.210 from trust system
[22:19] <p1l0t> trism: ah I see
[22:19] <FloodBot1> xirre: Please don't flood; use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste; don't use Enter as punctuation.
[22:19] <p1l0t> trism: thanks
[22:19] <dougbb> WillTablet: http://openvpn.net/index.php/open-source/documentation/howto.html
[22:19] <brandonabandon> someone walk an ubuntu setup mac 10.6 virtualbox?
[22:19] <xirre> Can anyone help?
[22:20] <OerHeks> xirre we do not suppot DDOS, wrong room
[22:20] <OerHeks> *support
[22:20] <xirre> So there's no support in preventing it?
[22:20] <xirre> This is a mitigation tool that I'm trying to get to work so my servers don't go down anymore.
[22:21] <hplc> is there any gui alternative to terminal command "mail" ?
[22:22] <brandonabandon> unable to install ubuntu
[22:22] <brandonabandon> burnt iso unreadable
[22:22] <duanedesign> exit
[22:22] <duanedesign> oops
[22:23] <brandonabandon> unarchver to desktop......
[22:23] <Ben64> brandonabandon: speak english... if your iso is unreadable, download it again, verify md5sum
[22:23] <xirre> I'm trying to find out what chain is trying to be accessed by APF Firewall when it tries to block the IP. I've done my research by googling the error and also checking most of the files from APF Firewall and (D)DoS Deflater but apparently I can't find it. I've been attacked a lot by hateful people. :/
[22:24] <brandonabandon> must verify?
[22:24] <Ben64> if you're having problems with it, its a good idea
[22:24] <Flannel> xirre: I would start by adding a lot of debug statements (extra echos, etc) to that script, and then running it manually (not with cron, but just manually)
[22:24] <Ben64> !md5sum | brandonabandon
[22:25] <WillTablet> Actually it seems to long winded to install a vpn
[22:25] <xirre> Yeah, I've tried using vi and gedit to change up some stuff but the mainnn problem here is that I can't find where exactly it's calling iptables.
[22:25] <brandonabandon> thanks.
[22:25] <Flannel> xirre: At this point, you're debugging a bash program that interfaces with ip tables/apf.  It's unlikely anyone here has experience with DDOS Deflate.
[22:25] <Ben64> WillTablet: vpn is probably not what you want
[22:26] <Flannel> xirre: Line 54, looks like.
[22:26] <xirre> Flannel: Line 54 of which file?
[22:26] <Flannel> xirre: ddos.sh
[22:26] <xirre> Checking.
[22:26] <Flannel> xirre: (the only file)
[22:27] <WillTablet> Ben64, I want to get past my ISP's blocking of certain websited
[22:27] <xirre> Agh, I see it. $IPT
[22:27] <Ben64> WillTablet: then use ssh as a proxy
[22:27] <WillTablet> I just had that thought actually.
[22:28] <WillTablet> What about android though?
[22:28] <WillTablet> It's not rooted
[22:28] <wilee-nilee> WillTablet, #android
[22:28] <xirre> Flannel: But why exactly am I getting the error saying iptables: No chain/target/match by that name?  Wouldn't INPUT be the chain?
[22:29] <WillTablet> Sorry
[22:31] <Flannel> xirre: I'm not sure.  You may wish to ask people who are more familiar with iptables, in #netfilter
[22:31] <xirre> Alright, thank you.
[22:37] <Drajwer> how do I upgrade my ubuntu 12.04.2 to 12.04.3?
[22:38] <Ben64> Drajwer: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[22:40] <zykotick9> Drajwer: if there happens to be a kernel updated included, you'll need to use "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" instead of Ben64's second command, update.
[22:44] <zykotick9> Drajwer: sorry, i make a typo.  the update is correct, it's the upgrade that "may" not be complete... depends on the updates involved.
[22:48] <xirre> After doing some more digging on APF-Firewall, I've come to the conclusion that that there may be a problem with this program. apf(23376): {glob} kernel version not equal to 2.4.x or 2.6.x, aborting.
[22:48] <xirre> When I turn on apf, I get that error. Does anyone know why?
[22:49] <xirre> Full error: http://paste.ubuntu.com/6138841/
[22:54] <jhutchins> xirre: Sounds like that version hasn't been updated to accept a 3.x kernel.
[22:55] <xirre> So what do you propose I do? I'm on ubuntu 13.04
[22:55] <guenhael> does anyone use virtualbox?
[22:55] <xirre> guenhael: I do.
[22:55] <rizal> guenhael, i do ...
[22:55] <guenhael> I don't understand why my virtual hard drive is not updated when I switch off my virtual machine
[22:55] <guenhael> the virtual hard drivre is in normal mode
[22:56] <guenhael> and I don't have any snapshot for that machine
[22:56] <guenhael> most of the time, the changes are saved when the virtual machine is switched off
[22:56] <xirre> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apf-firewall/+bug/878729 - Found a solution.
[22:56] <guenhael> but I don't know why it doesn't update it anymore...
[22:56] <jhutchins> guenhael: Wait for it to be updated, possibly find a different firewall.
[22:57] <jhutchins> guenhael: A linux firewall is really only useful when you're running it as a router.
[22:57] <wilee-nilee> guenhael, Have you filled the container maybe?
[22:57] <jhutchins> guenhael: What do you mean it's not updated?  Do you mean changes you make to the system revert to a previous session?
[22:58] <guenhael> no, it doesn't revert to a previous session
[22:58] <xirre> guenhael: What problem is occurring? Loss of data?
[22:58] <jhutchins> guenhael: It's not like windows where you need to block or control arbitrary ports, the system inherently does that.
[22:58] <guenhael> but the virtual hard drive file is not updated
[22:59] <guenhael> the changes are saved somewhere else
[22:59] <guenhael> I don't know why since the disc is in normal mode
[22:59] <jhutchins> Er, I'm getting nics mixed up, aren't I?
[22:59] <guenhael> so there is no lost of data
[22:59] <jhutchins> guenhael: What is telling you it's not updated?
[22:59] <jhutchins> guenhael: How can you tell?
[22:59] <guenhael> the date of the last modification of my file
[23:00] <xirre> I'm still confused as to what it is you're asking.
[23:00] <rizal> guenhael, what version virtualbox are your use ?
[23:00] <jhutchins> guenhael: What is the host OS?
[23:01] <guenhael> ubuntu 12.04 virtualbox 4.2.12
[23:01] <jhutchins> guenhael: It's possible that the changes have yet to be flushed from the host's cache.
[23:01] <jhutchins> !virtualbox
[23:01] <jhutchins> Blast.
[23:02] <wilee-nilee> guenhael, You might ask in #vbox, I think you have filled the container possibly, have you checked.
[23:02] <xirre> guenhael, what error are you getting? Could you repeat the question?
[23:02] <jhutchins>  http://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/User_FAQ
[23:02] <jhutchins>              http://www.virtualbox.org/  #vbox on irc.freenode.net.
[23:03] <guenhael> I don't know what it is wilee-nilee and I asked them but there is nobody there
[23:03] <rizal> genhael, maybe you can tried old version ...
[23:03] <guenhael> xirre I have absolutly no error and no data lost
[23:03] <wilee-nilee> guenhael, go to the vdi or whatever format and right click the properties.
[23:03] <jhutchins> guenhael: I think #vbox tends to be busier on weekdays during euro-american business hours.
[23:04] <guenhael> but the modifications are not saved in the virtual hard drive file when I switch off the virtual OS
[23:04] <jhutchins> guenhael: They must be saved somewhere.
[23:04] <jhutchins> guenhael: Like I said, they could still be in the ram buffer on the host.
[23:04] <xirre> guenhael: Are you curious as to where your vbox is saved?
[23:04] <jhutchins> guenhael: The only issue you see is that the timestamp doesn't change, right?
[23:05] <xirre> That's what I'm wondering too.
[23:05] <xirre> VBox has trouble with keeping time. Sometimes when I leave it on it goes back a day and I have to manually update it.
[23:06] <jhutchins> xirre: That's always been a problem with VMs.
[23:06] <jhutchins> xirre: The big commercial ones have pretty well solved it.
[23:06] <rizal> guenhael, do you have check the storage virtualbox?
[23:06] <guenhael> yes jhutchins
[23:07] <jhutchins> guenhael: I wouldn't worry about it.  It's just some housekeeping error on the host, it doesn't see the changes even though they're made.
[23:07] <guenhael> what do you call the storage virtualbox?
[23:07] <jhutchins> guenhael: You might try issuing the sync command - and make sure you're checking it via console, not a gui file manager.
[23:07] <alejandro_> hello
[23:08] <alejandro_> i have a question , i am a linux mint 15 user
[23:08] <wilee-nilee> !mint | alejandro
[23:08] <jhutchins> alejandro_: Is the question about Ubuntu?
[23:08] <guenhael> you mean you think the file is actually updated but the last modification time written is wrong?
[23:09] <jhutchins> guenhael: Something like that.   Especially if you're looking at it with a GUI.
[23:09] <rizal> guenhael, you can find storage in settings
[23:10] <guenhael> no jhutchins for 2 reasons
[23:10] <guenhael> first of all, if I unplug this virtual hard drive and put it immutable and plug it in again
[23:10] <guenhael> then I will lost my last modification
[23:10] <guenhael> that clearly mean, there wasn't written on it
[23:11] <guenhael> and secondly I just saw there are snapshots in the snapshot directory of my virtual machine
[23:11] <guenhael> I didn't created them
[23:11] <guenhael> they don't appear in the snapshot menu of virtual box
[23:11] <guenhael> there are automatically created by virtualbox I guess and I don't know why
[23:12] <guenhael> and there last modification time are all older than the one of my virtual hard drive file
[23:12] <zykotick9> guenhael: this really sounds like a question for #vbox at this point...
[23:12] <rizal> guenhael, try this reinstall virtualbox with old version
[23:13] <guenhael> they are sleeping
[23:13] <guenhael> I will try something...
[23:15] <puff> I'm trying to get netflix working on 13.4 64-bit. I seem to vaguely recall there was some recent issue with needing a certain package, not ia32 but something that was left out of the dependencies, but I can't recall what it was... libudev maybe?
[23:17] <Nothing_Much> I have a question, can the Arm version of Ubuntu be upgraded by simply putting in the terminal: sudo do-release-upgrade ?
[23:17] <guenhael> it is working :)
[23:17] <guenhael> I switched off the VM
[23:18] <guenhael> unpluged the virtual HD
[23:18] <reisio> Nothing_Much: should be the same process as on any other arch
[23:18] <guenhael> deleted all the associated snapshots from the snapshot directory
[23:18] <zykotick9> Nothing_Much: you might want to ask the #ubuntu-arm channel...
[23:18] <Nothing_Much> zykotick9, That exists?
[23:18] <guenhael> I pluged the HD in again
[23:18] <Nothing_Much> Thanks
[23:19] <guenhael> and switched the VM
[23:19] <guenhael> now the modification are well writed directly on the virtual hard drive
[23:22] <zykotick9> reisio: while i certainly don't know, i'd doubt ubuntu-arm is the same as other archs...  but maybe?
[23:22] <ben_linus> dual booting ubuntu & win8 gives the foll msg when the ubuntu option is chosen. win boot mgr win failed to start insert win install disk. file \ubuntu\winboot\winbuilder.mbr win8 loads with no problem
[23:29] <reisio> zykotick9: the software upgrade process should be the same on any arch
[23:29] <zykotick9> reisio: i certainly agree with the "should" part ;)  i've never owned any arm hardware, so ... what do i know?  ;)
[23:30] <reisio> well, I know what makes Debian or Ubuntu work on arm is that all the relevant software, the same software, was ported to that arch
[23:30] <reisio> apt is apt
[23:30] <drbream> привет
[23:31] <drbream> блин не русское ирц
[23:32] <zykotick9> reisio: keep in mind, debian doesn't run well (unmodified on even a rasberrypi, thus rasbian)... things are a big "different" moving from one arch to another, it ain't easy sometime ;)
[23:32] <zykotick9> s/big/bit/
[23:35] <loadid_czech> ben_linus: tell me more
[23:35] <reisio> I don't know about that
[23:36] <reisio> I bet you can install Debian to an rpi just fine
[23:37] <zykotick9> reisio: we're ot at this point.  but, re debian+rpi, not "easily".
[23:37] <reisio> easily in quotations? :p
[23:37] <loadid_czech> puppylinux on rpi?
[23:38] <zykotick9> reisio: well, come on... some people like nano, others vi/emacs ;)  "easy" is HIGHLY relative.
[23:39] <monsterco> I would like to know how many HDDs I have on my server - I am remote to it - how can I do that?
[23:39] <monsterco> I am looking for SSH commands
[23:40] <ben_linus> loadid_czech: it also says the application or OS couldnt be loaded bcuz a file is missing. Unbuntu 12.04 I tried to install
[23:40] <monsterco> Can someone tell me how many HDDs I have installed based on this info: http://pastebin.com/X9L8rViN
[23:41] <zykotick9> monsterco: try "sudo parted -l" if you use GPT, or "sudo fdisk -l" for MSDOS partitions.
[23:42] <zykotick9> monsterco: fyi, i don't go to pastebin .com, so can't see your paste.
[23:42] <OerHeks> that paste is removed, odd.
[23:43] <linuxuz3r> hi i cant right click on my desktop and there are no icons showing on my desktop. how do i fix this
[23:44] <monsterco> zykotick9 - what pastebin server do you like?
[23:44] <OerHeks> paste.ubuntu.com is safe
[23:45] <linuxuz3r> hi i cant right click on my desktop and there are no icons showing on my desktop. how do i fix this
[23:45] <zykotick9> monsterco: I agree with OerHeks ;)
[23:47] <OerHeks> unity tweak tool has a desktop icon setting
[23:48] <linuxuz3r> its working now
[23:51] <cl34r2012> hi
[23:51] <reisio> cl34r2012: hi
[23:51] <daftykins> o hai
[23:52] <cl34r2012> is mint the new ubuntu?
[23:52] <reisio> cl34r2012: new?
[23:52] <cl34r2012> yes
[23:52] <preecher> lol  no--mint is min and ubuntu is still ubuntu
[23:52] <reisio> the majority of Ubuntu developers, such as they are, develop for Ubuntu directly, not for Mint
[23:53] <cl34r2012> i mean mint has the top stop at distrowatch.org by far!"
[23:53] <zykotick9> cl34r2012: this isn't a chat channel.  mint is an ubuntu derivative... everything else is speculation...
[23:53] <reisio> cl34r2012: distrowatch.com? have you seen that site?
[23:53] <cl34r2012> stop = spot
[23:53] <reisio> cl34r2012: does it seem professional to you? :p
[23:53] <cl34r2012> yes
[23:53] <OerHeks> Distrowatch is no objective measure. just nice info.
[23:53] <reisio> cl34r2012: no :p
[23:54] <reisio> it doesn't really matter, though
[23:54] <reisio> Mint relies on Ubuntu
[23:54] <reisio> Ubuntu relies o Debian
[23:54] <monsterco>  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6139054/
[23:54] <reisio> they're all the same deep down, and only slightly farther down, all distros are the same
[23:54] <cl34r2012> what advantage has ubuntu over mint?
[23:54] <wilee-nilee> yep
[23:54] <cl34r2012> mint has a more refined desktop
[23:54] <cl34r2012> its more stylish
[23:54] <monsterco> zykotick9 - there ^^^^ :)
[23:54] <reisio> cl34r2012: you can use that desktop on any distro
[23:54] <reisio> it's a theme
[23:54] <monsterco> or anyone else who can tell me abit about my HDDs structure:  http://paste.ubuntu.com/6139054/
[23:55] <cl34r2012> nah, not with all the refinements
[23:55] <reisio> the advantage is that it's slightly less derivative
[23:55] <reisio> cl34r2012: yes, every last bit
[23:55] <cl34r2012> reisio: not necessarily an advantage
[23:55] <reisio> being less derivative?
[23:55] <reisio> is only advantageous
[23:56] <jan1337z> Question: what could be the reason for (initital) slow response time on ssh connection to a server
[23:57] <jan1337z> when I am connected it's getting quite fast
[23:57] <fabio> hello guys, is there any easy way to root a android tablet with ubuntu?
[23:58] <reisio> fabio: that would vary by device
[23:58] <wilee-nilee> fabio, check xda for the best way to root your model and use #android-root
[23:59] <sudo> Hi.