[10:47] <smartboyhw> zequence-work, you work on Saturdays?
[10:49] <zequence> smartboyhw: No, I just have some problems with irc somtimes
[10:49] <smartboyhw> zequence, oh:(
[10:49] <zequence-work> Like now..
[10:49] <smartboyhw> lol
[10:49] <zequence-work> smartboyhw: How's the weather in HK?
[10:50] <zequence-work> I hear it's going to get windy
[10:50] <smartboyhw> zequence-work, VERY POOR the coming few days, a typhoon is striking us directly.. (Now it's hot0
[10:50] <smartboyhw> Looks like the news got everywhere;)
[13:15] <smartboyhw> LP, Forums down
[13:15] <smartboyhw> Datacentre issues in London
[13:15] <smartboyhw> Fixing IP
[13:15] <smartboyhw> (In Progress)
[13:16]  * smartboyhw starts zsyncing ISOs to prepare for beta 2
[15:15] <zequence> Did anyone try our latest changes?
[15:15] <OvenWerks> windy in in the fillipines too.
[15:16] <OvenWerks> I have downloaded isos need access to the computer :)
[15:16] <OvenWerks> My wife has discovered skype
[15:16] <smartboyhw> Downloaded ISOs, will test tomorrow when the typhoon comes
[15:16] <smartboyhw> OvenWerks, LOL
[15:17] <smartboyhw> Uh oh, that means she will be stapled to the computer
[15:18] <OvenWerks> Ya, I have a second monitor on this one now though, so I can test the 32 bit. She is using the 64bit
[15:18] <smartboyhw> OvenWerks, good, i have the 64-bit here
[15:22] <zequence> I don't have a PC at home right now. All I have is this slow netbook, which I could use for testing, but for the sake of convienence, I don't (using it as a development platform right now)
[15:22] <zequence> 1GB ram is like torture
[15:23] <smartboyhw> zequence, buy yourself a new computer
[15:24] <smartboyhw> (And where's my T-shirt?)
[15:30] <zequence> smartboyhw: I moved it to another location for a while
[15:31] <zequence> smartboyhw: Right, I'll send it to you at the and of the month
[15:31] <zequence> smartboyhw: Have you decided on color?
[15:31] <smartboyhw> zequence, white 
[15:31] <smartboyhw> With the blue log
[15:31] <smartboyhw> *logo
[15:46] <zequence> smartboyhw: Ok :)
[15:46] <smartboyhw> zequence, :)
[15:46] <smartboyhw> Alas, 13.10 development should almost be complete...
[15:46] <smartboyhw> zequence, you might start to want us to fill in the 14.04 blueprints;)
[15:49] <zequence> I'll have another go at working on the blueprints next week. Thanks to the slowness of LP, it takes hours to get almost nothing done
[15:51] <smartboyhw> zequence, grrr. Maybe we should use Trello?
[15:51] <smartboyhw> Ubuntu uses it, Kubuntu uses it
[16:04] <zequence> smartboyhw: Thanks. I'll have a look
[17:19] <OvenWerks> zequence: The backdrop is only on screen 0, screen 1 has the old one. When I booted the live ISO with two monitors, It looked like the old backdrop was still there because the screens were "the same as" and so had the last drawn backdrop which is screen 1.
[17:20] <OvenWerks> KDE has somehow gotten this to be screen 1 draws first and then screen 0 which seems to be better.
[17:49] <OvenWerks> zequence: the file in question is /etc/xdg/xdg-ubuntustudio/xfce4/xfconf/xfce-perchannel-xml/xfce4-desktop.xml
[17:50] <OvenWerks> creating bug
[17:52] <zequence-work> OvenWerks: You think this is an upgrade issue?
[17:52] <zequence-work> Ah, no
[17:52] <zequence-work> Cause you booted with the live ISO
[17:52] <OvenWerks> :)
[17:52] <zequence-work> I never saw that file before
[17:53] <OvenWerks> it should be the one you changed to set the new background.
[17:58] <OvenWerks> Yup, it is
[17:59] <OvenWerks> Bug #1228635 
[18:00] <OvenWerks> Otherwise the icons are fine and the backdrop is as well.
[18:08] <OvenWerks> zequence-work: are you going to fix it? or should I? (it will be a bit before I can but should be doable today)
[18:19] <zequence-work> OvenWerks: Ah, right. I got thrown off from "xfce-perchannel-xml", which made no sense to me
[18:19] <zequence-work> I edited that file
[18:19] <zequence-work> Ah, two monitors :)
[18:19] <zequence-work> Don't think we really need two
[18:21] <zequence-work> But, let's just make it work
[18:24] <OvenWerks> On one of my MB (the new one) due to GPU driver issues I am forced to run as if two monitors are connected. This system doesn't boot right unless the external monitor is connected. That is why I am able to pick it up
[18:25] <OvenWerks> Ya the perchannel thing is not something I understand either
[18:28] <zequence-work> OvenWerks: I'm making the change, and uploading, referring to your bug report
[18:29] <OvenWerks> Great!, don't know if we'll get it before monday or not
[18:59] <zequence-work> OvenWerks: Not sure how this sponsorship process is supposed to work https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SponsorshipProcess
[18:59] <zequence-work> smartboyhw has created saucy-proposed branches. Right now, I don't know how that is done
[19:00] <zequence-work> Might be we need to create one for this as well
[19:00] <zequence-work> We should ask him about that when he comes back tomorrow
[19:01] <zequence-work> bug 1228646
[19:06] <OvenWerks> micahg, may be around later today. He may know too.
[19:08]  * OvenWerks says reboot time...
[19:13] <cub> zequence, zequence-work , depending on the thoughts on how to use Trello there might be other Kanban tools that might suit us better. I use Trello for personal stuff, but for projects I find it lacks some useful features.
[19:17] <OvenWerks> zequence-work: The backdrop for lightdm is still the old one as well. I can't remember off hand which file/package this is in.
[19:20] <cub> Hi OvenWerks, you are a master of grub now, no?
[19:20] <OvenWerks> I know a few things...
[19:21] <cub> my grub menu was sorted in another way when I added a 13.10 OS as well. So I thought I would just re-order things but it was as easy as I remember it. :P
[19:21] <cub> Any tips?
[19:22] <OvenWerks> You have more than one OS?
[19:23] <cub> windows 7, ubuntu studio 12.04 (main OS) and a test for 13.10
[19:23] <cub> but I previous default 12.04 is now moved down to like position 5
[19:23] <OvenWerks> Generally, boot up the os you want to be default (12.04?) and in a terminal run:
[19:24] <OvenWerks> sudo update-grub
[19:24] <cub> and the 13.10 is the default. I'd like to rename them as I plan to install some more OS
[19:24] <OvenWerks> sudo grub-install
[19:24] <OvenWerks> opps....
[19:24] <OvenWerks> sudo grub-install /dev/sda
[19:26] <OvenWerks> If you redo these two steps after any other install... or kernel upgrade. It will always set the default back to that partition.
[19:26] <cub> ok, no surprises when I run that?
[19:26] <cub> :D
[19:26] <zequence-work> OvenWerks: It should be just the default WP for the lightdm window, since it uses whatever the user has by default
[19:26] <cub> aha ok
[19:26] <OvenWerks> not on first boot
[19:27] <OvenWerks> ubuntustudio-lightdm-theme is the package and  /etc/xdg/xdg-ubuntustudio/lightdm/lightdm-gtk-greeter.conf is the file
[19:28] <OvenWerks> Bug in progress :)
[19:29] <OvenWerks> cub: I am assuming sda is your boot partition.
[19:30] <cub> yup, I just ran the two commands
[19:30] <cub> thanks for the info
[19:31] <OvenWerks> Bug #1228657
[19:32] <OvenWerks> zequence-work: ^^
[19:33] <OvenWerks> zequence-work: We should probably compare this to xubuntu's latest and see if there are any other changes that might be good.
[19:46] <zequence-work> OvenWerks: Funny. I changed all this for the last release. We should probably document this for the next, so we get it right
[19:49] <OvenWerks> :)
[19:49]  * OvenWerks is off to practice...
[21:00] <xfrmrs> anyone have experience in setting up live video server in precise ubuntustudio?