[01:53] <Kristall> Soo Fedora is planning to go wayland in 20 or 21... I wonder how long until a fooubuntu does
[02:02] <binaryhermit> considering that Ubuntu's pushing Mir, I'd guess sometime after everybody else goes to Wayland
[02:02] <binaryhermit> probably long after
[02:08] <Kristall> :'(
[02:09] <Kristall> Intel has shown interest in wayland over mir so I wonder if that means there's going to be a graphics split.
[02:10] <Kristall> 13.10 lxde/xfce/gnome are runnnig well... anyone using kde and unity? I wonder how they are
[02:42] <binaryhermit> I'm in KDE right now and it's fine
[02:45] <binaryhermit> ...after he/she left
[02:45]  * binaryhermit self-facepalms
[11:18] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[11:19] <penguin42> Hey BK
[11:25] <UnHolyTerror> Pfft!
[11:28] <penguin42> Pfft!?
[11:29] <Frank81> Hi Some one now plz help me to solve or even Report my bug i have since Ubuntu 13 no usb keyboard support anymore even if the usbhid driver gets loaded i use a logitech k120 keyboard and couldn't verify if the problem still exists when the system is fully booted since i use LUKS and can't enter the password the problem apears on every kernel version higher then 3.8
[11:30] <Frank81> i figured my self out that the initrd img contains and loads all nessery drivers but they are probally broken i don't know if the keyboard support is broken or the complet usb support i would say its the complet usb support that don't works
[11:35] <Frank81> The Mainboard is from Gigabyte
[11:36] <BluesKaj> hey penguin42
[11:39] <Frank81> Hey BluesKaj are you familary with reading and using the bug report issu tracker?
[11:40] <Frank81> can you look for me if you see if any one else has usb problems since kernel 3.10 3.11?
[11:42] <BluesKaj> Frank81, not really familiar , no.
[11:42] <Frank81> i am not too there is for me only bullocks
[13:15] <loa> hello
[13:16] <loa> i missed layout indicator and sound idicator from icon bar (
[13:16] <loa> what i can check?
[13:22] <penguin42> you can normally run the indicator- whatever binary and it'll restart
[13:22] <loa> penguin42, yeah i done with indicator-sound
[13:22] <loa> it was not installed
[13:23] <loa> but keyboard indicator is problem
[13:23] <loa> i set switching layout with setxkbmap
[13:23] <loa> becouse standart functionality don't work for me
[13:23] <loa> and indicator-keyboard don't show right layout
[13:23] <loa> it always show EN
[14:22] <loa> how i can add applet on applet bar?
[14:22] <loa> alt+win+right click don't work
[14:23] <loa> another question how i can stop showing information about application in main menu?
[14:23] <loa> for example i search calc, then click on calc, but see info about application
[14:23] <loa> then i need to click again to run it
[15:08] <taoseeker> hi
[15:08] <taoseeker> is there a ppc anymore?
[15:09] <taoseeker> are there people here anymore?
[15:09] <taoseeker> very silent on the testing channel
[15:09] <loa> tankdriver, i saw only one alive
[15:09] <taoseeker> very active on the mail list though
[15:10] <taoseeker> lol, there are not many around of the old ones
[15:10] <trism> taoseeker: I believe they are still building ppc packages but they dropped the ubuntu ppc livecd, I think lubuntu is keeping it though: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/lubuntu/daily-live/current/
[15:11] <taoseeker> thanks
[15:11] <bekks> !ppc
[15:11] <taoseeker> I am being booted from #ubuntu-testing
[15:12] <taoseeker> there are some still in use, some die hard apple guys
[15:12] <taoseeker> and a few with new IBM processors, playing around with server hardware
[15:13] <penguin42> taoseeker: I do know someone who was using a PPC mac laptop until last year (running MacOS)
[15:13] <penguin42> and I mean using it as his main machine
[15:14] <taoseeker> yeah, I noticed on a mac forum, an entire section with the G4 and G5 comptuers still running fine
[15:14] <taoseeker> G5 are still fairly up to date regarding power and speed
[15:14] <penguin42> taoseeker: Nah
[15:14] <taoseeker> not with the latest os though
[15:15] <taoseeker> I suppose there is little point in keeping up old hardware, Samsung 9 series are so light and easy to carry around
[15:18] <Frank81> 13:29:40 - Frank81: Hi Some one now plz help me to solve or even Report my bug i have since Ubuntu 13 no usb keyboard support anymore even if the usbhid driver gets loaded i use a logitech k120 keyboard and couldn't verify if the problem still exists when the system is fully booted since i use LUKS and can't enter the password the problem apears on every kernel version higher then 3.8
[15:18] <Frank81> 13:30:52 - Frank81: i figured my self out that the initrd img contains and loads all nessery drivers but they are probally broken i don't know if the keyboard support is broken or the complet usb support i would say its the complet usb support that don't works
[15:18] <taoseeker> I don't notice much difference with regular use on a G5, but actual speed and power is way behind of course
[15:18] <taoseeker> I will just toss out my G4 ibook if there is no need for testers
[15:19] <taoseeker> I don't use mac much anymore
[15:19] <Frank81> no one whants or needs apple products at all
[15:19] <taoseeker> at least at the moment,
[15:19] <Frank81> only novice people buy mac so its not importent and they even buy mac coz mac os and not coz ubuntu
[15:19] <taoseeker> hmm, we do obviously not move in the same circles
[15:20] <Frank81> thats right i don't hang around with people that buy mac coz they think it looks good my frinds buy hardware coz it can handle load x in time x
[15:20] <penguin42> Frank81: The displays are nice on them - I know a lot of geeks with them
[15:20] <taoseeker> maybe, but most I know don't bother too much about os
[15:20] <Frank81> penguine wanna be geeks probally
[15:21] <taoseeker> they are taken by the mac design I think and their commercials
[15:21] <Frank81> realy geeks would use something like odroid or even rasbary
[15:21] <Frank81> PI
[15:21] <taoseeker> lol
[15:21] <penguin42> haha no
[15:21] <Frank81> why not since you can even run graphical desktops on cloud infra
[15:22] <Frank81> there is no need for hav a big pc at home
[15:22] <Frank81> if i wanna render video i do it in the cloud
[15:22] <Frank81> in minuts not hours
[15:22] <Frank81> i could even play starcraft II in amazon cloud without gap
[15:23] <bekks> And you spend hours of uploading and downloading your video ;)
[15:23] <Frank81> maybe you hang around with people from 1990
[15:23] <taoseeker> I still like laptops, the slim new ones
[15:23] <Frank81> bekks i have oc3
[15:23] <taoseeker> I cannot live without a keyboard
[15:23] <Frank81> bekks and after rendering what do the most people do with video? right they upload it
[15:24] <Frank81> so hehehehe
[15:24] <penguin42> taoseeker: To be fair a lot of the tablets are developing good keyboard add ons
[15:24] <Frank81> penguin but ubuntu hates keyboards since 13.1
[15:24] <Frank81> my usb logitech keyboard don't works anymore
[15:24] <Frank81> or any other usb keyboard
[15:24] <Frank81> :D
[15:28] <taoseeker> I don't mind tablets, but I sort of cannot live with only a tablet,
[15:28] <Frank81> tablets are useless pice of stuff
[15:28] <Frank81> they are only better portable monitors
[17:27] <FernandoMiguel> hey