[06:21] <AskUbuntu> How can i create and run visual basic projects and still run in windows | http://askubuntu.com/q/348594
[10:35] <AskUbuntu> Translate an existing app | http://askubuntu.com/q/348646
[10:47] <GuidoPallemans> how can I apply my app for the wednesday design show?
[10:58] <nik90_> popey: we can the meeting whenever you are free btw
[11:10] <nik90_> GuidoPallemans: you send an email to design@canonical.com before Tuesday. The session themselves happen on wednesday in ubuntu-on-air
[11:10] <nik90_> GuidoPallemans: http://design.canonical.com/2013/09/wednesday-app-design-clinic/
[11:48] <popey> nik90_: ok, just making lunch, will ping you after, in an hour or so
[14:25] <popey> nik90_: around now
[14:49] <nik90_> popey: I am here
[14:50] <popey> hi nik90_
[14:50] <nik90_> popey: Hi
[14:50] <popey> shall we have an official meeting in -meeting or did you want to just chat here?
[14:50] <nik90_> popey: was just about to ask you the same thing
[14:50] <nik90_> :)
[14:51] <nik90_> popey: ur call
[14:51] <popey> we can just chat here
[14:52] <nik90_> okay
[14:52] <popey> Anything in particular you have of concern?
[14:52] <nik90_> popey: so I am been fixing zsombi's comments on my alarms branch. I think from my part it is done.
[14:52] <popey> ok, cool.
[14:52] <nik90_> However as of now, it sometimes crashes the clock app when saving an alarm due to an upstream issue I think
[14:53] <nik90_> zsombi confirmed it and has already proposed a fix in the sdk. It is now in the queue
[14:53] <nik90_> once that patch lands, I think then my alarms branch is good to go into trunk
[14:54] <nik90_> So meanwhile I have been working on other high priority bug
[14:54] <nik90_> like https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1201858
[14:54] <popey> Great, look forward to testing alarms when that lands.
[14:54] <popey> ah, that one
[14:54] <nik90_> popey: I already have a fix almost ready. Just need a bit more work
[14:55] <popey> awesome.
[14:55] <nik90_> I discussed the solution with dpm and agreed that the temporary solution for that bug is fine for the 1.0 release
[14:55] <nik90_> However I wanted to couple that solution with gps location (automatic)
[14:55] <nik90_> If you remember you gave me the code http://paste.ubuntu.com/6087739/
[14:55] <nik90_> from mzanetti
[14:56] <nik90_> I do not know how to install qtdeclarative5-qtlocation-plugin on the phone since it is a system-image and hence read-only
[14:57] <popey> is that not in by default now?
[14:57]  * popey checks
[14:57] <popey> it is now
[14:57] <nik90_> oh okay, then when I ran the code on the phone, it did not show me the gps lat and long.
[14:58] <nik90_> I assume GPS is on by default? However the location indicator is not checked
[14:59] <popey> i just flashed my phone with todays image
[14:59] <popey> so it's possibly a recent change
[14:59] <popey> not sure if we're on by default
[14:59] <nik90_> when you run the code above, do you see the lat,lng in the label?
[14:59] <popey> root       747  0.0  0.2  45740  5056 ?        Ssl  14:41   0:00 /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/ubuntu-location-service/examples/service --bus system --provider gps::Provider
[14:59] <popey> phablet   2196  0.0  0.1  27752  3276 ?        Sl   14:43   0:00 /usr/lib/arm-linux-gnueabihf/indicator-location/indicator-location-service
[14:59] <popey> looks like it
[14:59]  * popey tries
[15:00] <popey> file:///home/phablet/foo.qml:3 "components": no such directory
[15:00] <popey> i get that
[15:01] <popey> am I missing something?
[15:01] <nik90_> popey: let me wrap that into a qmlproject zip and give it to you
[15:01] <popey> sweet, thanks
[15:02] <nik90_> popey: http://ubuntuone.com/0YJKdcFGS6RlJGuGDmS5dC
[15:03] <nik90_> popey: mzanetti told me that it does not work in the desktop. So you can only test it on a phone
[15:03] <popey> k
[15:04] <nik90_> basically when you run the app, the lat,long should be displayed in the ubuntu shape. For me it comes up blank.
[15:05] <popey> how are you running it?
[15:05] <popey> just qmlscene location.qml ?
[15:05] <nik90_> popey: yes
[15:06] <popey> it doesnt show on screen for me on the phone
[15:06] <nik90_> I opened the project on qtcreator and just ctrl + f12
[15:06] <popey> ah
[15:06] <popey> will do that instead
[15:07] <popey> bear with me a moment
[15:07] <nik90_> np
[15:07] <nik90_> take ur time
[15:08] <popey> i get hello world
[15:09] <nik90_> popey: that string should be replaced with the lat,long
[15:09] <nik90_> atleast looking at the code for the location written by mzanetti
[15:09] <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-22-160944.png
[15:09] <popey> http://popey.com/~alan/device-2013-09-22-160951.png
[15:10] <nik90_> It would be nice if any of the platform devs can write a sample app with location detection. (tvoss or anybody)
[15:10] <nik90_> I get the same thing
[15:11] <popey> yeah, i asked bzoltan to do that once the location stuff had landed, I'll poke him tomorrow. He may have done it already but I don't know where it is.
[15:11] <popey> I know he was waiting until all the platform bits had landed before making a qml sample
[15:12] <nik90_> okay
[15:12] <nik90_> that would make my life of getting current location for the clock app more official and easier
[15:12] <popey> same for everyone ☻
[15:13] <nik90_> okay I will follow up with you on this tomorrow evening
[15:13] <nik90_> oh one last thing
[15:13] <nik90_> https://code.launchpad.net/~nik90/ubuntu-clock-app/sync-clock-backend/+merge/186923
[15:13] <nik90_> this should now show the same time in the welcome screen, indicator and clock app
[15:14] <nik90_> only the location name cannot be retrieved automatically until I get the gps qml code to work
[15:15] <popey> how are you planning to lookup location ?
[15:15] <popey> I mean, map text location from gps co-ords
[15:16] <nik90_> I will pass the cordinates to an online API which will return the city names
[15:16] <popey> mapquest?
[15:16] <nik90_> geonames.org
[15:16] <popey> ok
[15:17] <nik90_> ubuntu installer also geonames.org. so i will stick to that
[15:17] <popey> yeah, cool.
[15:18] <nik90_> I think with this, all the high priority bugs have been handled for 1.0 releae
[15:18] <nik90_> there are some design bugs reported by lina. Some of them needed clarifications and I have already emailed her about it.
[15:19] <popey> Ok, I agree.
[15:19] <popey> Will chase up with Lina in the morning
[15:19] <popey> It's looking really close.
[15:19] <nik90_> okay . thnx
[15:19] <nik90_> +1
[15:21] <nik90_> popey: I think that was all.
[15:27] <nik90_> popey: btw when you talk to bzoltan tomorrow, give him http://ubuntuone.com/0sFYEYLHlIhlRBP74SJlaQ
[15:27] <nik90_> popey: it is basically an improved code sample. should provide a starting point for him
[15:28] <nik90_> I got it go. Have a nice evening
[15:28] <popey> nik90_: sorry, got dragged away by my kids
[15:28] <popey> thanks nik90_
[15:28] <popey> will do
[15:28] <nik90_> popey: no worries. :)
[15:28] <popey> thanks for taking some time on sunday to update me ☻
[16:45] <Geocool_> Hello. I've an image with -1 z in Main View as background. Inside one of my tabs i have a listview. When I scroll the header of the Page element takes the background color of MainView instead of displaying the background. Is this a bug ?
[18:21] <mzanetti> nik90_: fyi. qtlocation it also works on the desktop by now. you might need to setup geoclue first though
[18:47] <narekb> hey folks, when's the Evernote development project starting?
[18:57] <popey> narekb: soon
[18:58] <popey> mzanetti: did you get that code working on the device? It didn't work for me
[19:04] <narekb> popey is an exact date set?
[19:05] <popey> narekb: i think we'll start contacting developers who expressed an interest this week
[19:05] <narekb> ooook
[20:15] <daker> nik90_: just use http://geoip.ubuntu.com/lookup
[20:35] <nik90_> popey: Do you think we can use this? ^^
[20:35] <nik90_> seems much easier
[20:42] <nik90_> daker: thnx, I remember someone mentioning this before, however for reason, I forgot about it.
[20:43] <nik90_> daker: will investigate if we can use this.
[20:44] <daker> nik90_: i use on my app https://bazaar.launchpad.net/~rad.io-devs/rad.io/trunk/view/head:/rad.io.qml#L172
[20:44] <daker> it*
[20:45] <nik90_> daker: I am just thinking if it is a reliable way of doing stuff for the official clock app. Although I could then provide 3 ways of setting current location: gps, geoip and manually.
[20:45] <daker> nik90_: i see
[20:46] <popey> nik90_: I don't know of any reason not to
[20:47] <nik90_> popey: cool.
[21:00] <nik90_> popey: could you get the ramsamsam app to open properly? I get a white screen always
[21:01] <popey> lets see
[21:01] <nik90_> popey: oh btw, you can set the background of the unity dash using system settings. All you need is have some wallpapers in /Pictures
[21:01] <popey> hmm, white screen here
[21:02] <popey> oh nice
[21:03] <nik90_> popey: every other app that I tried works. Also for some reason, the music app does not produce any sound. I can see that it is playing the song I chose though
[21:21] <popey> aa-exec: ERROR: profile 'com.ubuntu.developer.danielbeck.ramsamsamreader_ramsamsamreader_0.2.1' does not exist
[21:25] <popey> nik90_: the .desktop file is broken, it has "test.qml" as the qml file in the Exec line, when it's ramsamsamreader.qml
[21:25] <popey> modifying the .desktop file doesn't fix it though
[21:26] <nik90_> popey: hmm
[21:27] <popey> beuno: mhall119 we really need a way to find apps in myapps so I can go back and find an app to give feedback to a developer
[21:27] <popey> beuno: mhall119 right now I have to hope the url is cached (ie. I have visited the app before) or sequentially go through each app which sucks
[21:29] <popey> ok, found it, and sent feedback requesting they fix it nik90_
[21:31] <nik90_> popey: thnx
[21:32] <popey> np
[21:32] <popey> lemme know if you find any others and I'll do likewise
[21:32] <nik90_> popey: sure