[08:03] <jared> jea: just a ping regarding tonights meeting, finger's crossed I'll actually be around this time.
[08:19] <jea> jared: ok
[09:44] <jea> could be slightly late, but will be as close as possible to 8pm
[09:58] <jared> Yeah, I will be about 5 minutes, I just have to duck off afk for a little
[10:06] <jea> Hi everyone
[10:06] <jea> Hopefully there are a few of you here for the meeting
[10:07] <Noskcaj> jea, I'm here
[10:07] <jea> great :)
[10:07] <jea> i will start the meeting at 8:10 to give people a few minutes to arrive
[10:07] <jared> Made it back
[10:10] <jea> @startmeeting
[10:10] <meetingology> jea: Error: "startmeeting" is not a valid command.
[10:10] <jea> @meeting
[10:10] <meetingology> jea: Error: "meeting" is not a valid command.
[10:10] <jea> gah
[10:10] <jared> Hmm is it #?
[10:10] <jea> I thought it was @
[10:11] <jea> no, it is #
[10:11] <jea> #startmeeting
[10:11] <meetingology> Meeting started Sun Sep 22 10:11:21 2013 UTC.  The chair is jea. Information about MeetBot at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/meetingology.
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[10:11] <jea> interesting that it responded to @
[10:11] <jea> #topic September 2013 Ubuntu-AU Team Meeting
[10:11] <jared> Odd, perhaps that's a common error
[10:11] <jea> #meetingtopic September 2013 Ubuntu-AU Team Meeting
[10:12] <jea> #topic Welcome
[10:12] <jea> Hi everyone. Welcome to the Ubuntu-AU Team Meeting for Sept 2013
[10:12] <jea> Agenda can be found at http://loco.ubuntu.com/meetings/ubuntu-au/663/detail/
[10:13] <jared> Evening all, thanks for organising this jea, greatly appreciate the effort 
[10:14] <jea> Everyone who is here, say hi to have your name recorded on the minutes
[10:14] <jea> Tonight we have a couple of topics, being my report on the session I ran at UQ, and secondly the LoCo Verification coming up
[10:16] <jea> so, on to the first topic
[10:16] <jea> #topic Brisbane Intro to Linux
[10:17] <jea> Back in August, I ran an evening session introducing people to Ubuntu and Linux at the University of Queensland
[10:17] <Noskcaj> hi
[10:17] <jea> (http://loco.ubuntu.com/events/ubuntu-au/2456-beginning-with-ubuntu/)
[10:17] <jared> From everything I've heard it went really well jea 
[10:17] <joey168> hi everyone
[10:17] <jea> It was pretty successful, with the room I had booked being completely full, and people listening from out the door
[10:17] <jared> Good evening joey168 & Noskcaj 
[10:17] <jea> There were around 53 people there
[10:17] <jea> Hi Noskcaj and joey168 
[10:18] <jared> jea: awesome, that's probably one of the best attended events in a while.
[10:18] <Noskcaj> jea, great work
[10:18] <jared> jea: were you able to connect with the Humber volunteers?
[10:18] <jea> Yes, there were two people from Humbug who came along
[10:19] <jea> I invited them to speak for a bit, so they introduced themselves and Humbug, then stayed around to answer questions after the main talk
[10:19] <jea> I wasn't expecting that many people, so I had intended to do more of a 'get in groups and talk, and I will come and answer questions' session
[10:20] <jared> Do you think that sort of event could become semi-regular if we helped staff it?
[10:20] <jea> Instead I did a seminar-like talk to everyone for 20mins or so, then opened it up to questions
[10:21] <jea> I think it could. I chose that time to coincide with a course that UQ runs, teaching people about unix
[10:21] <jea> so if it is around this time each year, I think attendance would be quite good
[10:21] <jared> Do you think there is much opportunity to do it quarterly or something?
[10:22] <jea> um, probably not at UQ that often
[10:22] <jea> I think something similar could be done at QUT, but we would need connections there to do it
[10:22] <Noskcaj> maybe we could try and do one there, one somewhere else each year
[10:23] <jea> so if we had, for example, one at UQ and one at QUT a year, that would be pretty good
[10:23] <jared> I have general QUT connections but no IT department ones. However they do have the open source group so should be pretty open to id
[10:23] <jea> University of New South Wales has probably the best computing courses in Australia
[10:23] <Noskcaj> I could try and do one at UNE, but i think there are age issues.
[10:23] <jea> so targeting them could be worthwhile
[10:24] <Noskcaj> jea, +1
[10:24] <jea> Noskcaj: yes, you might find it harder
[10:24] <jea> We could also do another session at a library somewhere
[10:25] <jea> Brisbane City Council now has these CoderDojo sessions, aimed at younger kids learning programming
[10:25] <jea> maybe we could offer to introduce them to Ubuntu
[10:26] <joey168> how is it with the macquarie university in sydney, they run also quite good computer courses
[10:27] <jea> joey168: I am not too sure about Macquarie Uni. Have you done much with them/do you study there?
[10:27] <jared> jea: sounds like you have a few volunteers to help spread the program :)
[10:27] <Noskcaj> If you need extra people, #debian-au might be willing to help
[10:28] <jea> jared: hopefully. It would be nice to spread it
[10:28] <Noskcaj> Plus there's a heap of australian ubuntu members who never come here
[10:28] <joey168> i am to old to study there, but i was there at their open day with my daughter and what i had seen was very impressive
[10:29] <jea> Ok. That could be another opportunity to run such an event
[10:30] <jared> jea: was there much effort in setting the event up?
[10:30] <jared> jea: just trying to get a feel for how many people you'd need to commit to it to make it work
[10:30] <jea> I plan on writing up a short thing about the event, for the website. I have just been putting it off with my uni work
[10:31] <jea> jared: I organised it all, and had a couple of others to help on the day
[10:31] <joey168> jea, how you approached the people
[10:32] <jea> I probably had it slightly easy because I ran it with the UQ Computing Society, of which I am the current secretary
[10:32] <jea> However, even if I wasn't in the society, I think they would be open to running something like this
[10:33] <jea> I will write up what was involved setting it up, as a template for others to use
[10:33] <joey168> would be for sure from interest
[10:34] <jared> jea: awesome, if you could share the "agenda" as well that would make it easy. I know personally I find it difficult to think of things that will entertain a crowd
[10:34] <jea> Yep, I could do that
[10:35] <jea> I think having the free goodies helped too - people always like to get free things
[10:35] <Noskcaj> i need sleep, g'night
[10:35] <joey168> jared, you are like me. i am too technical
[10:35] <jared> Good night Noskcaj
[10:36] <jared> jea: Canonical are good like that
[10:36] <jea> Hopefully it continues with the change in approved/verified locos
[10:36] <jared> jea: I believe it will as long as we're "verified".
[10:36] <jea> Ok, that is good.
[10:37] <jared> I think we'll go close, the main problem we have is that the meetings are at terrible times with the council
[10:37] <jea> Well, I think this is a good time to change to the next topic
[10:37] <jea> #topic LoCo Verification Application
[10:37] <jea> As you are probably aware, Ubuntu-AU has to undergo a verification process again this year
[10:38] <jea> We have started preparing the document required
[10:38] <jea> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AustralianTeam/VerificationApplication2013
[10:38] <jea> It would be great if everyone could take a look, and updated as needed
[10:38] <jared> Well on this topic, we have about 4 days before the team expires from the LP team of "verified" teams. I have tried to engage the council in conversation via the bug raised to go through the approval process but to no avail so far.
[10:39] <jared> I think it's likely the team will expire but should be able to be put back on pretty simply if we are verified again shortly after
[10:39] <jea> Do you know when the meeting times are?
[10:39] <jared> Everyone I've seen is around 3am local time
[10:40] <jea> Oh. That is hard
[10:40] <jared> I'll email the council directly and link back to the bug and see if that helps
[10:41] <jea> Ok. I am happy to attend the meeting, depending on what day/time
[10:42] <jared> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoCouncil/Agenda
[10:42] <jared> Actually it's 6am from the looks of that
[10:42] <jea> That is a bit better
[10:42] <jared> I'll CC in the ubuntu-au-owner so hopefully they reply all
[10:43] <jea> We should add the forum to the application
[10:44] <jared> I was going to check loco.u.c to make sure all our previous events are listed for the last 2 years
[10:44] <jared> I think we did some release parties, etc, we should add
[10:44] <jea> There are quite a few things there
[10:44] <jea> http://loco.ubuntu.com/teams/ubuntu-au/events/history/
[10:45] <jared> Maybe we link to that and leave what's there as the highlights
[10:46] <jea> I have a link under the LocoTeam Portal section, but I could do it under the Activities section also
[10:49] <jea> Looking at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArizonaTeam/ApprovalApplicationrenewal2013
[10:49] <joey168> up to what degree activities for ubuntu derivates would be considered?
[10:50] <jared> joey168: depends really, if you give some information it would help
[10:50] <jea> I think we could use some of their sections (eg Branding on wiki)
[10:50] <jared> Photos would probably help a lot, even a link to them
[10:51] <jea> I have a couple of photos from my event. I should put them up
[10:51] <jared> If we can tidy up the wiki by tonight I'll email the council and see how we go
[10:51] <joey168> well, i am introducing vinux to a school for visual impaired people in vietnam
[10:52] <jared> jea: If you have a flickr account it would be good to add them to the team page as that links straight to the loco portal
[10:52] <jared> joey168: a noble effort but probably a little too removed to be included as part of this process.
[10:53] <jea> jared: only issue i see is whether i should have permission from people in the photo to post it
[10:53] <jared> jea: as long as you're not tagging them and they are the "subject" of the photo I don't think there is an issue
[10:53] <joey168> too removed in terms of vietnam or more in terms to vinux?
[10:54] <jea> jared: ok
[10:54] <jared> jea: if you want to put a note in the comments to contact you to take them down if people object that might show a bit more "effort" to be nice?
[10:54] <jared> joey168: a bit from column a and a bit from column b
[10:58] <jared> joey168: if the team were instrumental in the organisation it would probably be good, but if it's just a member doing something loosely attached to Ubuntu probably not
[10:58] <joey168> jared, i understand, well it was an idea worth to think about
[10:59] <jared> joey168: definitely, and also something you're more than welcome to post a story about to the website and/or mailing list
[11:00] <joey168> jared, as soon the project is finished i will post the complete story - probably in december
[11:01] <jared> joey168: no problems, if you need a hand with anything feel free to post to the list for some help
[11:02] <joey168> jared, thanks for your offer, the help will be certainly needed in a later stage
[11:06] <jared> jea: did you think wholesale changes to the wiki are needed or do you think we just submit and answer questions as needed?
[11:06] <jared> joey168: I'll watch out for it
[11:06] <jea> jared: I think just submit it
[11:07] <jared> jea: I was thinking the same just didn't want to do it if you wanted to spend more time on it. My thouhts are we just see what else they want, at least they know we're interested
[11:07] <jea> yep, may as well get the ball rolling
[11:08] <jea> hmm, where are our forums?
[11:08] <jea> http://au.ubuntuforums.org/
[11:08] <jea> that doesn't seem to work
[11:08] <jea> http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=399
[11:08] <jea> there we go
[11:09] <jared> jea: maybe something to do with the upgrade
[11:09] <jea> ah, yep
[11:10] <jared> The forum upgrade destroyed my new account and linked me back to my old one so I've got to work that out at some stage
[11:12] <jea> annoying
[11:12] <jea> I think I might end the meeting, if there is nothing else
[11:12] <jared> I don't have anything else, joey168 did you want to discuss the project at all or you happy to close the meeting?
[11:13] <jared> jea: I have an email drafted to the council so I'll send it when the meeting ends.
[11:17] <jea> Ok. I shall keep an eye out
[11:17] <jea> Thanks to everyone for coming
[11:17] <jea> #endmeeting
[11:17] <meetingology> Meeting ended Sun Sep 22 11:17:32 2013 UTC.  
[11:17] <meetingology> Minutes (wiki):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-au/2013/ubuntu-au.2013-09-22-10.11.moin.txt
[11:17] <meetingology> Minutes (html):        http://ubottu.com/meetingology/logs/ubuntu-au/2013/ubuntu-au.2013-09-22-10.11.html
[11:17] <jea> jared: I am removing the identi.ca accounts, because identica doesn't really exist any more
[11:17] <jared> jea: thanks so much for organising the meeting
[11:17] <jea> that is alright
[11:18] <jared> jea: yeah I was hoping to put a call out to see if anyone wants to look after the social media stuff.
[11:18] <jared> Even if it's just communicating loco community stuff to AU users that would be useful I think
[11:18] <jea> in this case, the entire identica platform has been removed, and replaced with something else
[11:18] <jea> so I am just doing directly to twitter now
[11:19] <jared> Oh right, sounds fair enough
[11:19] <jared> I should look at twitter once in a while
[11:19] <jea> got a bit of a surprise when I went to log in
[11:20] <joey168> jea, thanks for the meeting
[11:20] <jea> joey168: thanks for coming along
[11:20] <joey168> jared, thanks for our conversation aside the line
[11:21] <jared> joey168: no worries at all, the meeting is meant to be a bit of an open forum for the team to communicate as well :)
[11:22] <joey168> jared, i just read the previous msg for me in regard to the project
[11:24] <jea> jared: we feature in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LoCoTeamHowto#Homepage
[11:24] <jared> jea: yeah I've seen a few teams copy us and wondered about that. Nice to know it's because we did something well :) 
[11:25] <jea> They also suggest looking at the MA team. Something must have happened to them though https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MassachusettsTeam
[11:26] <joey168> jared, i like to discuss the project, but if you don't mind not today, we can meet tomorrow on this channel or in the chat channel
[11:26] <jared> joey168: happy to talk anytime, my appearance at the keyboard is sporadic though (tomorrow I'm out until 10pm at uni) so probably email is better
[11:27] <jared> joey168: if you ping me and I"m not here feel free to drop me a line at jarednorris at ubuntu.com
[11:28] <jared> jea: back in 2010 it looked like https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MassachusettsTeam?action=recall&rev=101
[11:28] <jea> jared: should we add ourselves to the LocoCouncil Agenda?
[11:28] <joey168> jared, no problem
[11:28] <jared> jea: not sure, I'm hoping the email will get their attention and they can ask us to do so if they want.
[11:28] <jea> ok
[11:29] <jea> that old page looks much better. Maybe we should put the Australian Team in that position too :P
[11:29] <jared> If they don't reply all I'll forward the response on
[11:36] <jea> Well, hopefully that is alright for now
[11:38] <joey168> i have to say good night - still some work waiting for me
[11:39] <jared> joey168: good night, I'm off to do some studying myself
[11:39] <jea> cya joey168 and jared
[11:40] <jared> jea: thanks for your efforts, I like the changes to the social pages. No point having 100 groups if none are active
[11:40] <jea> Yeah. I will try to keep them going a bit more
[11:40] <joey168> jared, see you soon again, bye
[11:40] <jea> certainly outside uni times will be easier
[11:41] <joey168> jea, see you
[11:41] <jared> jea: no worries, I'll try doing a call to the team when I get a chance. If someone with an active account that conforms to the CoC wants to help out I'm inclined to give it a shot
[11:41] <jared> We did get someone like that a while ago but they never really went with it from memory
[11:41] <jea> Yeah. I would prefer to see them online here a bit more first