/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2013/09/22/#ubuntu-za.txt

Kiloshi psychicist and others06:21
charlgood afternoon12:11
charlMaaz: coffee on12:11
* Maaz flips the salt-timer12:11
MaazCoffee's ready for charl!12:15
charlhi space 12:15
charlMaaz: thanks12:15
Maazcharl: Sure12:15
Kiloshi charl 12:43
Kiloshi Snowy2 12:43
charlhi Kilos 13:14
charlwb zeref 13:14
psychicisthi Kilos 13:20
psychicisthi charl 13:20
psychicisthi zeref 13:20
psychicisttoday has been a lazy day for me13:20
Kilosme too. lying down reading13:20
charlhi psychicist 13:36
Kiloshmm...17:29
inetproMaaz: hmm17:29
Maazhmm... is often used to try make others believe one is actually thinking17:29
Kiloshaha17:30
Kiloshi inetpro 17:30
inetproguten abend Herr Kilos17:30
Kiloswe had a power cut17:30
inetproai!17:30
inetproI know the feeling17:30
Kiloshi nlsthzn 17:31
nlsthzno/17:31
inetprogood evening everyone else17:31
inetprolooks like we jumped from Winter to Summer and back to Winter again17:32
Kilosyeah not lekker hey17:32
inetproyep, giving me terrible headaches when this happens17:33
Kilosaw sorry17:33
inetproyesterday 17:33
Kilosweahter changing gives you headaches17:33
Kilosweather too17:34
inetpromany times17:34
Kiloswow17:34
nlsthznhot here... was hot yesterday too... going to be hot tomorrow...17:34
Kiloslol @ nlsthzn 17:34
nlsthzn:p17:34
Kilosinetpro, how busy be you?17:35
Kiloshttps://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts17:35
inetproKilos: ai!17:35
Kiloshahaha17:35
inetproKilos: you wanna become a developer now?17:36
Kiloscan i add that script in that block to init.d just with name change17:36
inetprowhy?17:36
Kilosi think thats all that zram needs here to work17:36
inetpronee man, jy speel met vuur oom17:37
nlsthznlol17:37
Kilosnee man17:37
inetprokry liewer die die ouens wat dit gebou het om dit reg te maak17:37
Kiloslemme paste some stuffs17:37
Kilosits a package in the repos right17:38
inetproja maar as jy moet modifikasies maak is dit nie reg nie17:38
Kilosit installs and shows 2 parts in cat /proc/swaps17:38
inetproen dit beteken alle ander outjies moet ook die modifikasie maak17:38
Kilosja daar is baie op die net daarvan maar hulle verwag almal is slim17:39
inetproas die ouens wat verantwoordelik is vir die pakkie dit sentraal regmaak is dit reg vir almal17:39
Kilossug17:39
inetproKilos: is ek verkeerd?17:39
Kiloslemme say this in englis17:40
Kilosenglish as well17:40
Kiloswhen i first came here pidgin couldnt do mxit right17:40
Kilosi asked for help and squirm said install something, i forget what17:41
inetproand?17:41
Kilosthen it worked17:41
Kilosthis is almost similar17:41
inetprosounds different to me17:41
Kilosonly thing is its not added in bootscript17:41
inetproKilos: the best approach is to log a bug 17:42
Kilos/dev/zram0                              partition5072600517:42
Kilos/dev/sdd5                               partition48762840-117:42
Kilos/dev/zram1                              partition5072600517:42
inetprothen if you figure it out you report it in that same bug17:43
Kilosits running but dont start on boot17:43
Kilosthat debian link is in the report when you start it17:43
Kilossays no lsb script found 17:44
Kilosthen gives that link right there on whats needed17:44
Kiloshttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zram-config/+bug/99653517:45
Kilosthis command isnt working to do that boot script17:46
Kilos# update-rc.d zramswap defaults17:46
Kiloswith sudo17:46
inetproKilos: jammer maar ek gaan jou nie van die wal af in die sloot in help met hierdie ene nie17:49
Kiloslol17:49
inetprozram is nie iets waarmee inetpro nodig het om te speel nie17:50
Kilosthey dont have an irc channel either17:50
Kilosall i asked was is just the name change needed in that script17:51
Kilosor is there more to change17:51
Kilosif i just do it and crash pc i get fought with for not asking17:52
inetproKilos: talk to the people who know17:52
Kiloswhere?17:53
inetproplenty of them seem to be part of that that bug17:53
Kilosoh17:54
inetprothis is not a new bug17:55
Kilosnope17:55
* inetpro fails to see why you even need zram17:56
nlsthznCause it is ram ... with a z... much more better17:57
Kilosfirst of all in my boot scripts theres like ten lines of errors about that zram)17:57
inetproKilos: why?17:57
Kilosso wastes time looking for zram0 and zram117:58
Kilosbecause it must be part of the kernel or something but only gets install later17:58
inetproKilos: are those errors part and parcel of a fresh install?17:58
Kilosi see that with kde and unity17:59
Kilosi first asked what errors are they17:59
Kilosno one told me17:59
Kilosthen started googling17:59
inetprocould be that you got them as part of installing something non-standard18:00
Kilosthen saw i can install zram and fly said i dont need it18:00
Kilosnope18:00
Kilosits a thing installed from cd methinks18:00
Kiloswait lemme look the name of the file that has it in18:01
nlsthznlinux is great, it gives you enough rope to hang yourself18:01
KilosA simple workaround is to blacklist the zram module, and update your initramfs:18:01
Trixar_zanlsthzn: I think you're confusing yourself18:01
Kiloslol18:01
Trixar_zaI think you mean "Windows"18:02
Kilosme reading https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-lts-raring/+bug/121718918:02
Trixar_zaBut like the movie Castaway, while it gives you enough rope, it doesn't give you a place to hang yourself from18:02
Kilosits a com something package that starts it18:02
nlsthznTrixar_za, not really... Windows doens't like you to fiddle... but fiddle long enough with Linux and you can either get support online or re-install :p18:03
Trixar_zaI've broken Linux lots of times - even formatting over it - and so far I've only failed to fix it once18:04
Trixar_zaPartition recovery tools are fun18:04
Trixar_za:P18:04
Kilosinetpro, do dmesg | grep zram18:05
Kilossee what you get18:05
inetproKilos: nada HERE18:05
inetprooops18:05
Trixar_zaWindows I've broken lots of time and I've failed to fix the major ploblems 9 times out of 10. A format and reinstall is the only fix for that18:05
Trixar_za:P18:05
Kilosnothing?18:05
inetpronothing about zram here18:05
Kilosso where did it come from18:06
* inetpro uses KUbuntu 12.04.3 LTS18:06
Kilosare you using win7 or something18:06
Trixar_zaThe trouble is that while Linux gives you several tools to do the same thing, Windows barely gives you one - and if you can't boot into safe mode, you're pretty much screwed.18:06
Kilosme too but its in the boot scripts18:06
nlsthznWhy did Windows break in the first place?18:08
* inetpro enjoys choqok again18:11
Kilosi forget what it does18:12
Kilosirc client18:12
Kilos?18:12
nlsthzntwitter18:12
nlsthznfor kde...18:12
nlsthznone of the better ones18:12
Kilosah have they fixed twitter18:12
Kilosit stopped working18:12
nlsthzn?18:12
Kilosand pidgin18:13
Kilostwitter stop them18:13
Kilosinetpro, explain18:13
nlsthznah yes, they limit the amount of refreshes or something18:13
* nlsthzn is not a twitter fan18:13
nlsthzneven when I follow certain people for updates they sometimes just spam random stuff making me want to punch puppies18:14
Kiloslol18:14
inetproKilos: yes, choqok is the best twitter client I used ever18:15
Kilosinetpro, you tweeting about meet tomorrow night?18:15
Kilosdoes twitter let it work now18:15
Kiloswhen did they fix it18:15
inetproKilos: that is you job man18:15
Kilosmaybe pidgin fixed as well18:15
Kiloshaha18:16
Kilosso cheeky18:16
Kilosyou gotta tell G+18:16
inetproKilos: unfortunately it's not in the official repositories yet18:16
Kilossend it here18:17
Kilossimilar to pidgin hey?18:17
Kiloswhat no ai!18:19
Kilosi miss mage18:20
Kilosspawn too18:20
inetproKilos: http://choqok.gnufolks.org/2013/09/choqok-1-4-released/18:20
Kilosdanke18:20
Kiloshmm...18:49
magespawnGood Evening18:52
Kiloswb magespawn 18:52
magespawnty Kilos, how are things?18:53
Kilosok ty magespawn and there lad18:53
magespawnall good, all good. just finishing off the last of the game drives18:54
Kilosah18:54
magespawnhad two fairly good drives, yesterday and today18:55
Kiloswhats wrong with  http://bit.ly/15qydfi18:56
Kilosisnt there supposed to be an agenda there18:56
magespawnyes there is, but they did have some trouble recently, so maybe it got removed/deleted or just not put back18:58
Kilossigh that used to be inetpro s job hey18:58
Kilosi think he sneaked outa it somehow18:59
magespawnkbmonkey, has been doing it as well as chairing18:59
Kiloswell how do we rev him before the meet19:00
Kilosi cant mail peeps to add to agenda if it dont work19:01
Kilosgrrr19:01
magespawnhold on a sec19:01
magespawni think is still works, but there is no agenda up there at the moment except for those two items19:02
Kilosit should always have the basic there like events and so on19:04
Kilosevents next meet vote for chair etc etc19:05
magespawnmaybe just nudge kbmonkey via email19:05
Kilosand them funny words19:06
Kiloshe will see my meeting mail then answer19:06
Kilosor i can mail weenie too19:08
magespawnwho is weenie?19:09
Kiloswerner19:09
Kiloswesley19:09
Kilosthere weeney mailed19:12
KilosMaaz, announce Monthly meet tomorrow at 20.30 guys and19:19
MaazAnnouncement from Kilos! Monthly meet tomorrow at 20.30 guys and19:19
Kilosnight all . sleep tight19:19
magespawngood night all19:51
inetprofp22:18
nlsthzn?22:18
inetpronlsthzn: first posting of the day22:19
nlsthznah yes... I do believe this is not the first time I have seen this and been told this :p22:20
nlsthznand I suspect it could have been you that time too22:20
inetpro:-)22:20
inetproperhaps time for me to go sleep22:20
nlsthznperhaps :)22:21
inetpro8ta keeping me awake at these mad hours of the day22:22
nlsthzntypical22:23
inetprothey should allow us to use the extra data from 20:00 in the evening22:23
inetpro23:00 is way too late 22:23
nlsthzneasy... pay for more data22:24
nlsthznthat is why they do it22:24
inetproanyway, have to go now22:25
inetprogood night22:26
nlsthznnight22:37

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