[06:21] <Kilos> hi psychicist and others
[12:11] <charl> good afternoon
[12:11] <charl> Maaz: coffee on
[12:11]  * Maaz flips the salt-timer
[12:15] <Maaz> Coffee's ready for charl!
[12:15] <charl> hi space 
[12:15] <charl> Maaz: thanks
[12:15] <Maaz> charl: Sure
[12:43] <Kilos> hi charl 
[12:43] <Kilos> hi Snowy2 
[13:14] <charl> hi Kilos 
[13:14] <charl> wb zeref 
[13:20] <psychicist> hi Kilos 
[13:20] <psychicist> hi charl 
[13:20] <psychicist> hi zeref 
[13:20] <psychicist> today has been a lazy day for me
[13:20] <Kilos> me too. lying down reading
[13:36] <charl> hi psychicist 
[17:29] <Kilos> hmm...
[17:29] <inetpro> Maaz: hmm
[17:29] <Maaz> hmm... is often used to try make others believe one is actually thinking
[17:30] <Kilos> haha
[17:30] <Kilos> hi inetpro 
[17:30] <inetpro> guten abend Herr Kilos
[17:30] <Kilos> we had a power cut
[17:30] <inetpro> ai!
[17:30] <inetpro> I know the feeling
[17:31] <Kilos> hi nlsthzn 
[17:31] <nlsthzn> o/
[17:31] <inetpro> good evening everyone else
[17:32] <inetpro> looks like we jumped from Winter to Summer and back to Winter again
[17:32] <Kilos> yeah not lekker hey
[17:33] <inetpro> yep, giving me terrible headaches when this happens
[17:33] <Kilos> aw sorry
[17:33] <inetpro> yesterday 
[17:33] <Kilos> weahter changing gives you headaches
[17:34] <Kilos> weather too
[17:34] <inetpro> many times
[17:34] <Kilos> wow
[17:34] <nlsthzn> hot here... was hot yesterday too... going to be hot tomorrow...
[17:34] <Kilos> lol @ nlsthzn 
[17:34] <nlsthzn> :p
[17:35] <Kilos> inetpro, how busy be you?
[17:35] <Kilos> https://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts
[17:35] <inetpro> Kilos: ai!
[17:35] <Kilos> hahaha
[17:36] <inetpro> Kilos: you wanna become a developer now?
[17:36] <Kilos> can i add that script in that block to init.d just with name change
[17:36] <inetpro> why?
[17:36] <Kilos> i think thats all that zram needs here to work
[17:37] <inetpro> nee man, jy speel met vuur oom
[17:37] <nlsthzn> lol
[17:37] <Kilos> nee man
[17:37] <inetpro> kry liewer die die ouens wat dit gebou het om dit reg te maak
[17:37] <Kilos> lemme paste some stuffs
[17:38] <Kilos> its a package in the repos right
[17:38] <inetpro> ja maar as jy moet modifikasies maak is dit nie reg nie
[17:38] <Kilos> it installs and shows 2 parts in cat /proc/swaps
[17:38] <inetpro> en dit beteken alle ander outjies moet ook die modifikasie maak
[17:39] <Kilos> ja daar is baie op die net daarvan maar hulle verwag almal is slim
[17:39] <inetpro> as die ouens wat verantwoordelik is vir die pakkie dit sentraal regmaak is dit reg vir almal
[17:39] <Kilos> sug
[17:39] <inetpro> Kilos: is ek verkeerd?
[17:40] <Kilos> lemme say this in englis
[17:40] <Kilos> english as well
[17:40] <Kilos> when i first came here pidgin couldnt do mxit right
[17:41] <Kilos> i asked for help and squirm said install something, i forget what
[17:41] <inetpro> and?
[17:41] <Kilos> then it worked
[17:41] <Kilos> this is almost similar
[17:41] <inetpro> sounds different to me
[17:41] <Kilos> only thing is its not added in bootscript
[17:42] <inetpro> Kilos: the best approach is to log a bug 
[17:42] <Kilos> /dev/zram0                              partition	507260	0	5
[17:42] <Kilos> /dev/sdd5                               partition	4876284	0	-1
[17:42] <Kilos> /dev/zram1                              partition	507260	0	5
[17:43] <inetpro> then if you figure it out you report it in that same bug
[17:43] <Kilos> its running but dont start on boot
[17:43] <Kilos> that debian link is in the report when you start it
[17:44] <Kilos> says no lsb script found 
[17:44] <Kilos> then gives that link right there on whats needed
[17:45] <Kilos> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/zram-config/+bug/996535
[17:46] <Kilos> this command isnt working to do that boot script
[17:46] <Kilos> # update-rc.d zramswap defaults
[17:46] <Kilos> with sudo
[17:49] <inetpro> Kilos: jammer maar ek gaan jou nie van die wal af in die sloot in help met hierdie ene nie
[17:49] <Kilos> lol
[17:50] <inetpro> zram is nie iets waarmee inetpro nodig het om te speel nie
[17:50] <Kilos> they dont have an irc channel either
[17:51] <Kilos> all i asked was is just the name change needed in that script
[17:51] <Kilos> or is there more to change
[17:52] <Kilos> if i just do it and crash pc i get fought with for not asking
[17:52] <inetpro> Kilos: talk to the people who know
[17:53] <Kilos> where?
[17:53] <inetpro> plenty of them seem to be part of that that bug
[17:54] <Kilos> oh
[17:55] <inetpro> this is not a new bug
[17:55] <Kilos> nope
[17:56]  * inetpro fails to see why you even need zram
[17:57] <nlsthzn> Cause it is ram ... with a z... much more better
[17:57] <Kilos> first of all in my boot scripts theres like ten lines of errors about that zram)
[17:57] <inetpro> Kilos: why?
[17:58] <Kilos> so wastes time looking for zram0 and zram1
[17:58] <Kilos> because it must be part of the kernel or something but only gets install later
[17:58] <inetpro> Kilos: are those errors part and parcel of a fresh install?
[17:59] <Kilos> i see that with kde and unity
[17:59] <Kilos> i first asked what errors are they
[17:59] <Kilos> no one told me
[17:59] <Kilos> then started googling
[18:00] <inetpro> could be that you got them as part of installing something non-standard
[18:00] <Kilos> then saw i can install zram and fly said i dont need it
[18:00] <Kilos> nope
[18:00] <Kilos> its a thing installed from cd methinks
[18:01] <Kilos> wait lemme look the name of the file that has it in
[18:01] <nlsthzn> linux is great, it gives you enough rope to hang yourself
[18:01] <Kilos> A simple workaround is to blacklist the zram module, and update your initramfs:
[18:01] <Trixar_za> nlsthzn: I think you're confusing yourself
[18:01] <Kilos> lol
[18:02] <Trixar_za> I think you mean "Windows"
[18:02] <Kilos> me reading https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-lts-raring/+bug/1217189
[18:02] <Trixar_za> But like the movie Castaway, while it gives you enough rope, it doesn't give you a place to hang yourself from
[18:02] <Kilos> its a com something package that starts it
[18:03] <nlsthzn> Trixar_za, not really... Windows doens't like you to fiddle... but fiddle long enough with Linux and you can either get support online or re-install :p
[18:04] <Trixar_za> I've broken Linux lots of times - even formatting over it - and so far I've only failed to fix it once
[18:04] <Trixar_za> Partition recovery tools are fun
[18:04] <Trixar_za> :P
[18:05] <Kilos> inetpro, do dmesg | grep zram
[18:05] <Kilos> see what you get
[18:05] <inetpro> Kilos: nada HERE
[18:05] <inetpro> oops
[18:05] <Trixar_za> Windows I've broken lots of time and I've failed to fix the major ploblems 9 times out of 10. A format and reinstall is the only fix for that
[18:05] <Trixar_za> :P
[18:05] <Kilos> nothing?
[18:05] <inetpro> nothing about zram here
[18:06] <Kilos> so where did it come from
[18:06]  * inetpro uses KUbuntu 12.04.3 LTS
[18:06] <Kilos> are you using win7 or something
[18:06] <Trixar_za> The trouble is that while Linux gives you several tools to do the same thing, Windows barely gives you one - and if you can't boot into safe mode, you're pretty much screwed.
[18:06] <Kilos> me too but its in the boot scripts
[18:08] <nlsthzn> Why did Windows break in the first place?
[18:11]  * inetpro enjoys choqok again
[18:12] <Kilos> i forget what it does
[18:12] <Kilos> irc client
[18:12] <Kilos> ?
[18:12] <nlsthzn> twitter
[18:12] <nlsthzn> for kde...
[18:12] <nlsthzn> one of the better ones
[18:12] <Kilos> ah have they fixed twitter
[18:12] <Kilos> it stopped working
[18:12] <nlsthzn> ?
[18:13] <Kilos> and pidgin
[18:13] <Kilos> twitter stop them
[18:13] <Kilos> inetpro, explain
[18:13] <nlsthzn> ah yes, they limit the amount of refreshes or something
[18:13]  * nlsthzn is not a twitter fan
[18:14] <nlsthzn> even when I follow certain people for updates they sometimes just spam random stuff making me want to punch puppies
[18:14] <Kilos> lol
[18:15] <inetpro> Kilos: yes, choqok is the best twitter client I used ever
[18:15] <Kilos> inetpro, you tweeting about meet tomorrow night?
[18:15] <Kilos> does twitter let it work now
[18:15] <Kilos> when did they fix it
[18:15] <inetpro> Kilos: that is you job man
[18:15] <Kilos> maybe pidgin fixed as well
[18:16] <Kilos> haha
[18:16] <Kilos> so cheeky
[18:16] <Kilos> you gotta tell G+
[18:16] <inetpro> Kilos: unfortunately it's not in the official repositories yet
[18:17] <Kilos> send it here
[18:17] <Kilos> similar to pidgin hey?
[18:19] <Kilos> what no ai!
[18:20] <Kilos> i miss mage
[18:20] <Kilos> spawn too
[18:20] <inetpro> Kilos: http://choqok.gnufolks.org/2013/09/choqok-1-4-released/
[18:20] <Kilos> danke
[18:49] <Kilos> hmm...
[18:52] <magespawn> Good Evening
[18:52] <Kilos> wb magespawn 
[18:53] <magespawn> ty Kilos, how are things?
[18:53] <Kilos> ok ty magespawn and there lad
[18:54] <magespawn> all good, all good. just finishing off the last of the game drives
[18:54] <Kilos> ah
[18:55] <magespawn> had two fairly good drives, yesterday and today
[18:56] <Kilos> whats wrong with  http://bit.ly/15qydfi
[18:56] <Kilos> isnt there supposed to be an agenda there
[18:58] <magespawn> yes there is, but they did have some trouble recently, so maybe it got removed/deleted or just not put back
[18:58] <Kilos> sigh that used to be inetpro s job hey
[18:59] <Kilos> i think he sneaked outa it somehow
[18:59] <magespawn> kbmonkey, has been doing it as well as chairing
[19:00] <Kilos> well how do we rev him before the meet
[19:01] <Kilos> i cant mail peeps to add to agenda if it dont work
[19:01] <Kilos> grrr
[19:01] <magespawn> hold on a sec
[19:02] <magespawn> i think is still works, but there is no agenda up there at the moment except for those two items
[19:04] <Kilos> it should always have the basic there like events and so on
[19:05] <Kilos> events next meet vote for chair etc etc
[19:05] <magespawn> maybe just nudge kbmonkey via email
[19:06] <Kilos> and them funny words
[19:06] <Kilos> he will see my meeting mail then answer
[19:08] <Kilos> or i can mail weenie too
[19:09] <magespawn> who is weenie?
[19:09] <Kilos> werner
[19:09] <Kilos> wesley
[19:12] <Kilos> there weeney mailed
[19:19] <Kilos> Maaz, announce Monthly meet tomorrow at 20.30 guys and
[19:19] <Maaz> Announcement from Kilos! Monthly meet tomorrow at 20.30 guys and
[19:19] <Kilos> night all . sleep tight
[19:51] <magespawn> good night all
[22:18] <inetpro> fp
[22:18] <nlsthzn> ?
[22:19] <inetpro> nlsthzn: first posting of the day
[22:20] <nlsthzn> ah yes... I do believe this is not the first time I have seen this and been told this :p
[22:20] <nlsthzn> and I suspect it could have been you that time too
[22:20] <inetpro> :-)
[22:20] <inetpro> perhaps time for me to go sleep
[22:21] <nlsthzn> perhaps :)
[22:22] <inetpro> 8ta keeping me awake at these mad hours of the day
[22:23] <nlsthzn> typical
[22:23] <inetpro> they should allow us to use the extra data from 20:00 in the evening
[22:23] <inetpro> 23:00 is way too late 
[22:24] <nlsthzn> easy... pay for more data
[22:24] <nlsthzn> that is why they do it
[22:25] <inetpro> anyway, have to go now
[22:26] <inetpro> good night
[22:37] <nlsthzn> night