[02:31] <ScottK> Riddell: \o/
[02:31] <ScottK> We weren't supposed to need that anymore, but I'll take it up with upstream.  Thanks for hunting it down.
[09:12] <Riddell> bug 1131070 is a funny one, slavak gets a bad font on numbers
[09:46] <Riddell> shadeslayer: what do you use fail2ban for?
[09:48] <Riddell> shadeslayer: moving your files onto the muckle drive, that's where the space is
[10:10] <smartboyhw> Riddell, oh, so we are dropping ARM images
[10:10]  * smartboyhw didn't believe that they are dropping ARM images with the PowerPC images still surviving-.-
[10:12] <Riddell> smartboyhw: well that's the question
[10:13] <Riddell> arm images don't work and I don't think we have the skills or time to fix them
[10:13] <Riddell> and they're not in themselves useful
[10:13] <Riddell> it's a shame nothing useful has come of them, I had really hoped to get nexus images
[10:52] <cortexA9> hello all
[10:53] <smartboyhw> Hello cortexA9 
[10:54] <cortexA9> hello smartboyhw
[10:54] <cortexA9> testing kubuntu
[10:54] <cortexA9> daily
[10:54] <smartboyhw> cortexA9, great!
[10:55] <cortexA9> it works ?
[10:55] <smartboyhw> Um, I think you should stop now (a bit)
[10:55] <smartboyhw> A new daily is coming 
[10:55] <cortexA9> yea
[10:55] <cortexA9> the daily of today
[10:55] <cortexA9> i mean
[10:56] <cortexA9> i try it in a moment.
[10:56] <apachelogger> there's always another daily coming ^^
[10:56] <cortexA9> hehe
[10:58] <smartboyhw> apachelogger, the next daily is the official 1st candidate for Beta 2;)
[10:58] <cortexA9> hehe
[10:58] <cortexA9> cool
[10:58] <apachelogger> there's also always another release
[10:59] <smartboyhw> apachelogger, sure
[10:59] <cortexA9> ok in the meantime
[10:59] <cortexA9> i test the daily of today.
[11:17] <cortexA9> ok all good.
[11:17] <cortexA9> smartboyhw
[11:17] <cortexA9> :)
[11:26] <Riddell> lordievader: did you get anywhere with local docs?
[11:27] <cortexA9> Riddell: all ok with kubuntu daily
[11:27] <Riddell> cortexA9: great :)
[11:27] <Riddell> cortexA9: oh but does the install only with wifi setup work?
[11:27] <cortexA9> oh didn't tried
[11:27] <cortexA9> sorry
[11:35] <Riddell> cortexA9: will you be able to do some beta image testing when we get images (probably testing tomorrow)?
[11:36] <cortexA9> yea Riddell
[11:37] <Riddell> lovely
[11:42] <soee> hiho :)
[11:42] <soee> finally tomorrow new notebook and kubuntu on it <3
[11:43] <smartboyhw> soee, \o/
[11:44] <soee> :3
[11:44] <Riddell> soee: ooh exciting, what is it?
[11:45] <soee> it is not with preinstalled system but it will have as soon as i get it :D
[11:48]  * Riddell realises this nexus image still exists http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu-active/daily-preinstalled/20130227/
[11:48] <cortexA9> Riddell: hehe
[11:49] <cortexA9> i think i had tried it
[11:50] <shadeslayer> Riddell: I thought /home was linked to muckle?
[11:51] <cortexA9> Riddell: it would be awesome if we can provide other updated images.
[12:02] <BluesKaj> 'Morning folks
[12:05] <cortexA9> plasma active is still in alpha ?
[12:05] <smartboyhw> cortexA9, we packaged 0.4
[12:06] <smartboyhw> Oops, 4.-
[12:06] <smartboyhw> 4.-
[12:06] <smartboyhw> 4.0
[12:06] <smartboyhw> ...
[12:06] <smartboyhw> Riddell, please update cortexA9 on the images:P
[12:07] <cortexA9> smartboyhw: for nexus 7 ?
[12:07] <smartboyhw> cortexA9, ask Riddell :)
[12:08] <cortexA9> damn
[12:08] <cortexA9> i didn't tried the 4.
[12:08] <cortexA9> need to try it.
[12:11] <ScottK> Riddell: re armhf, I'd say let's go for it, but I mostly won't be around to do the work, so whatever you want is fine.
[13:17] <smartboyhw> Wow, KTp is reaching 0.7
[13:18] <smartboyhw> So sad that it won't make it into the Saucy archives (will it?)
[13:22] <Riddell> probably not but depends on release date, what upstream says, how big the changes are etc
[13:22] <Riddell> there's big changes ahead apparently for telepathy architectures, poor them
[13:22] <smartboyhw> Release Date: 12th October
[13:22] <smartboyhw> So, probably not
[13:23] <Riddell> mm that's pushing it quite a lot
[13:23] <Riddell> lordievader: nicer header :)  http://docs.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs.html
[13:42] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://paste.kde.org/p572808e1/
[13:42] <shadeslayer> :(
[13:43] <Riddell> something has gone wrong somewhere
[13:43] <smartboyhw> ssl handshakes...
[13:44] <shadeslayer> I get SSL errors everywhere
[13:45] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, heh heh hehh
[13:46] <Riddell> probably means GCHQ is spying on you
[13:47] <shadeslayer> hehe
[13:52] <smartboyhw> lordievader: What happened to the links at http://docs.kubuntu.org/Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs/GettingInvolved.html ?
[14:00] <Riddell> ooh they look broken
[14:16] <shadeslayer> Riddell: can you upload https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/kde-extra/+files/kraft_0.51-0ubuntu1.dsc
[14:16] <shadeslayer> it built locally
[14:17] <shadeslayer> but if you want, you can wait for it to be built https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/kde-extra/+build/5043033 https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/kde-extra/+build/5043034
[14:17] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, oy? I thought nobody was to package it :P
[14:17] <shadeslayer> smartboyhw: hm?
[14:18] <shadeslayer> I got an email from upstream
[14:18] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, since it originated from Debian. I thought we need to let it go through Debian first (last version if 0.50-2)
[14:18] <smartboyhw> Well, upstream pinged you at least:)
[14:18] <shadeslayer> sure, but isn't debian frozen?
[14:18] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, huh?
[14:18] <shadeslayer> and ScottK is too busy
[14:18] <smartboyhw> That quick?
[14:18] <shadeslayer> maybe I'm out of touch
[14:19] <shadeslayer> I thought debian was frozen, but *shrug*
[14:19] <shadeslayer> I would like to get that uploaded
[14:19] <shadeslayer> then we sync from Debian next cycle?
[14:19] <shadeslayer> there's isn't much to do
[14:19] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, OK......
[14:24] <smartboyhw> Riddell, you seem more available, please unblock ubuntustudio-lightdm-theme and -default-settings from -proposed;)
[14:28] <lordievader> Riddell: Have you seen my trello update?
[14:28] <lordievader> Riddell: About the local docs?
[14:30]  * Riddell looks
[14:33] <Riddell> lordievader: hmm we can do better than that I think
[14:34] <Riddell> lordievader: i see the old docs package just used the kde style sheets which is fine too, have you seen that?
[14:34] <Riddell> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="help:/common/kubuntu.css">
[14:34] <lordievader> Ah yes.
[14:34] <Riddell> <link rel="stylesheet" type="text/css" href="help:/common/kde-default.css">
[14:34] <Riddell> so needs some url munging somewhere
[14:34] <lordievader> However I have a feeling that our docs are incompatible with that. I could try though.
[14:35] <Riddell> grab https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/kubuntu-docs_12.04.0ubuntu1_all.deb
[14:35] <Riddell> and take a look at /usr/share/doc/kde/HTML/en/kubuntu/welcome/index.html
[14:35] <lordievader> Already got it ;)
[14:35]  * Riddell looks at smartboyhw's request
[14:37] <Riddell> smartboyhw: unblocked
[14:39] <smartboyhw> Riddell, yeah
[14:50] <Riddell> shadeslayer: any features in it?
[14:50] <shadeslayer> Riddell: upstream said just a teeny tiny one, but it's of no consequence
[14:50] <shadeslayer> and blog post says it's just a bug fix release
[14:51] <shadeslayer> http://volle-kraft-voraus.de/Main/Releases
[14:51] <Riddell> shadeslayer: and you can't upload it?
[14:51] <Riddell> get some motu power!
[14:52] <smartboyhw> lol
[14:52] <Riddell> "Kraft creates and handless office documents in small enterprises."
[14:52] <Riddell> typo?
[14:54] <shadeslayer> tmp/kraft » edit-acl -p rohangarg -S saucy -s kraft check                                                                                                                                                               shadeslayer@solembum
[14:54] <shadeslayer> Rohan Garg (rohangarg) cannot upload kraft to Saucy/Release
[14:55] <Riddell> shadeslayer: do you want to get motu powers? if so you can file a FFe to do it properly and use it as an example of your super packaging skills
[14:55] <Riddell> if not I'll just fix the typo and upload
[14:55] <smartboyhw> Riddell, some people think they just simply don't need it (like yofel )
[14:56] <smartboyhw> Kubuntu Developers (kubuntu-dev) cannot upload kraft to Saucy/Release
[14:56] <smartboyhw> Tada
[14:56] <shadeslayer> dunno
[14:56] <shadeslayer> Riddell: just upload it :P
[14:57]  * shadeslayer is in a 'don't particularly care' mood today
[14:58] <Riddell> okay dokay
[15:00] <apachelogger> yofel: ping
[15:05] <shadeslayer> Riddell: I also have a fix for qt-gstreamer compiling here https://launchpad.net/~rohangarg/+archive/kde-extra/+files/qt-gstreamer_0.10.2-2ubuntu2%7Eppa1.dsc
[15:05] <shadeslayer> removed some symbols
[15:06] <Riddell> ooh
[15:06] <shadeslayer> it removes some template instantiations which don't break ABI and it removes some c++ symbol patterns
[15:06] <shadeslayer> which I am unsure about
[15:06] <shadeslayer> stuff like +#MISSING: 0.10.2-2ubuntu1# (c++)"construction vtable for QGlib::Interface-in-QGst::Bin@Base" 0.10.1
[15:07] <smartboyhw> Ooh......
[15:08] <shadeslayer> hmm
[15:08] <shadeslayer> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=713350
[15:08] <Riddell> shadeslayer: my attitude, which may be incorrect, is that if the compiler removes a symbol it's ok since the compiler knows more about these sorts of things than I do
[15:10] <shadeslayer> Riddell: okay, should be available for upload then
[15:10] <shadeslayer> oh heh
[15:10] <shadeslayer> you already uploaded it
[15:11] <shadeslayer> I saw the ppa and it said "Newer version available" and went "whaaaa"
[15:12]  * shadeslayer gest onto strigi
[15:29] <shadeslayer> strigi fixed as well
[15:29]  * shadeslayer hops onto tp-qt
[15:34] <Riddell> shadeslayer: you're on a roll today, what list are you looking at?
[15:35] <shadeslayer> Riddell: http://people.ubuntuwire.org/~wgrant/rebuild-ftbfs-test/test-rebuild-20130614-saucy.html#kubuntu
[15:37] <smartboyhw> kubotu: give shadeslayer a cup of coffee
[15:37]  * smartboyhw forgotten the command
[15:37] <smartboyhw> Uh hum
[15:38] <smartboyhw> kubotu: help
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[15:38] <smartboyhw> Still forgot which one:(
[15:38] <shadeslayer> ehehe
[15:39] <shadeslayer> already had coffee
[15:39] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, an energy bar?
[15:39] <smartboyhw> You might want that
[15:39] <shadeslayer> then I stole vHanda
[15:39] <shadeslayer> erm
[15:39] <shadeslayer> I stole vHanda's yogurt
[15:39] <Riddell> shadeslayer: good stuff
[15:41] <smartboyhw> shadeslayer, what flavour of yoghurt?
[15:41] <shadeslayer> strawberry
[15:42]  * smartboyhw hates strawberry
[15:42] <shadeslayer> :O
[15:42] <shadeslayer> how can one hate strawberry
[15:42] <shadeslayer> it's pink!
[15:42] <shadeslayer> it's like saying you hate unicorns
[15:44]  * smartboyhw hates unicorns, BTW
[15:45] <shadeslayer> *faint*
[15:45] <shadeslayer> note to self, ask people who apply for kubuntu dev positions if they hate unicorns
[15:47] <smartboyhw> eh!!?!?!??!
[15:47] <smartboyhw> That's racism..
[15:48] <shadeslayer> tp qt done!
[15:51] <shadeslayer> oh shoot
[15:51] <shadeslayer> I probably don't have upload rights to tp-qt
[15:51] <BluesKaj> "hate" something that doesn't exist , now is that logical ? :)
[15:51] <shadeslayer> oh I can
[15:51] <shadeslayer> fun
[15:54] <BluesKaj> guess I hate work , i should be fixing stuff today
[15:55]  * shadeslayer is covering up for lost days while moving
[16:02] <shadeslayer> Riddell: does this make sense to you http://paste.kde.org/pdfef0873/
[16:02] <shadeslayer> because for some reason WTF_USE_3D_GRAPHICS=0 isn't added
[16:13] <ovidiu-florin> the docs.kubuntu.org site is composed of just static HTML pages?
[16:20] <yofel> apachelogger: pong
[16:24] <Riddell> shadeslayer: nothing about webkit build system makes sense to me
[16:24] <shadeslayer> xD
[16:24] <shadeslayer> it's like dealing with autotools
[16:24] <shadeslayer> http://paste.kde.org/p729b2a83/
[16:24] <yofel> nono, autotools actually makes kinda sense
[16:25] <shadeslayer> I suppose you just need to be high to make sense of it
[16:26] <shadeslayer> anyway,  thoughts on that build error?
[16:27] <Riddell> it's not in the wrong logic is it? try putting it after the else
[16:27]  * Riddell out
[16:28] <shadeslayer> huh?
[16:47] <ovidiu-florin> what's wrong with the wiki.kubuntu.org site? once I've logged in, everything is upside down. the header is the orange Ubuntu header instead of the blue Kubuntu header, all the icons are orange instead of blue, and the links are different. what gives?
[16:52] <yofel> ovidiu-florin: for some reason the theme-to-url matching doesn't quite work once you're logged in. Go to your preferences and set the theme to kubuntu-light
[16:53] <ovidiu-florin> preferences -> "Internal Server Error"
[16:53] <yofel> o.O
[16:54] <yofel> hm, works here...
[16:57] <ovidiu-florin> works now
[16:57] <ovidiu-florin> though it's laggy
[17:06] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: docs.kubuntu.org is static HTML and it is not static HTML ;) It is being generated from https://wiki.kubuntu.org//Kubuntu/KubuntuDocs
[17:06] <ovidiu-florin> lordievader: thank's 
[17:07] <ovidiu-florin> I'm looking over the script that generates them, now
[17:07] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: Whoo :)
[17:09] <genii> Not sure what's going on with the task manager but the icons are sometimes tiny, sometimes normal, sometimes only some of them are small, etc. After being up for a while seems to settle down to normal size, but for 5-10 minutes after initially loading it's a crapshoot.
[17:10]  * shadeslayer sends some hate towards autotools
[17:10] <shadeslayer> I have a fix
[17:10] <shadeslayer> however I do not know where to put the fix :<
[17:12] <shadeslayer> okay pre-build sounds like a good place
[17:29] <cortexA9> added ?
[17:29] <cortexA9> downloadable ?
[17:29] <cortexA9> Riddell
[17:29] <cortexA9> it's released ?
[17:31] <soee> i think http://store.steampowered.com/livingroom/SteamOS/
[17:31] <cortexA9> yea
[17:31] <cortexA9> i know it
[17:39] <yofel> cortexA9: if the bot announces it then it's downlodable and added on the tracker
[17:39] <yofel> http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/milestones/303/builds
[17:57] <cortexA9> cool yofel
[17:57] <cortexA9> i testing it
[18:19] <yofel> hm, ubiquity still crashes on the wifi setup in installer-only mode (org.freedesktop.DBus.GLib.UnmappedError.NmManagerError.Code4: Not authorized to control networking.)
[18:23] <cortexA9> all ok
[18:23] <cortexA9> :)
[18:23] <cortexA9> Riddell
[18:24] <cortexA9> :)
[18:25] <yofel> cortexA9: mark whatever test you did as passed then on the qa tracker please :)
[18:25] <cortexA9> ok
[19:17] <yofel> didn't we have an installer icon in some obvious place in plasma-netbook in the past?
[19:21] <shadeslayer> my eyes bleed after seeing the diff between debian and ubuntu packaging in virtuoso-opensource
[19:22] <yofel> wasn't the general consensus about it to not touch it as long as it works? ^^
[19:22] <lordievader> Riddell: What a lovely bug, because of one line in the header of the docs khelpcenter refused to include the css. The line was this: <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd">
[19:22] <shadeslayer> yofel: well, it doesn't work anymore
[19:22] <shadeslayer> and I have some hacks to make it work
[19:23] <yofel> eh?
[19:23] <shadeslayer> compiling the debian package to check if it works
[19:23] <shadeslayer> if it does, then maybe we can sync it
[19:24] <yofel> uh
[19:24] <yofel> we have a higher version than debian...
[19:24] <shadeslayer> sid has 6.1.6 ?
[19:24] <yofel> according to rmadison, sid has 6.1.4
[19:24] <shadeslayer> or well
[19:24] <shadeslayer> experimental
[19:24] <shadeslayer> http://packages.debian.org/experimental/virtuoso-opensource
[19:25] <yofel> that's multiarched and will break soprano - unless you want to then fix that as well
[19:25] <shadeslayer> oh bah :/
[19:25] <shadeslayer> okay then
[19:25] <shadeslayer> lets just fix our package
[19:25] <shadeslayer> sync in T
[19:25] <shadeslayer> maybe ...
[19:25] <yofel> I think I even had a half working patch for soprano
[19:25] <yofel> but seeing what it did in neon made me not want to finish it
[19:26] <shadeslayer> http://paste.kde.org/p4e02e2c7 < that's just the rules file
[19:26] <yofel> +1 for sync in T
[19:27] <yofel> well, they removed cdbs rightfully
[19:27] <shadeslayer> *nod*
[19:37] <shadeslayer> yofel: review plz http://paste.kde.org/p1e4f8ca7/
[19:41] <yofel> looks fine, but what exactly does line 24 do?
[19:42] <yofel> I mean, why do we need that?
[19:42] <shadeslayer> automake 1.13 introduces a mandatory file called test-driver
[19:42] <shadeslayer> without it, it will faile
[19:42] <shadeslayer> so we just link the sample test-driver file from automake to binsrc/config
[19:43] <shadeslayer> that file isn't shipped in the source
[19:44] <shadeslayer> https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=65290 for eg
[19:45] <shadeslayer> I've pinged pitti
[19:45] <shadeslayer> but haven't heard back so far
[19:46] <shadeslayer> "The parallel testsuite harness (previously only enabled by the 'parallel-tests' option) is now the default"
[19:46] <yofel> hm
[19:46] <shadeslayer> check the mecabs package in debian
[19:47] <shadeslayer> has the same fix, and I just copied it over
[19:49] <yofel> ah, I was just going to ask you where you got that regex from ^^
[19:49] <shadeslayer> hehehe
[19:49] <shadeslayer> yeah, same package ;)
[19:49] <shadeslayer> I am incapable of constructing complex regexes
[19:49] <shadeslayer> though I understand it partly
[19:49]  * yofel just wonders why it starts with (?
[19:50] <shadeslayer> http://perldoc.perl.org/perlre.html#Extended-Patterns
[19:51] <yofel> thanks
[19:51] <shadeslayer> I think it's kind of like case in C++
[19:51] <shadeslayer> though I might have misunderstood it
[19:54] <shadeslayer> meep, need to figure out dinner
[19:54] <shadeslayer> I am still unsure about the linking fix, hopefully someone will reply by tomorrow
[20:01] <shadeslayer> k, gtg, dinner, cya tomorrow
[20:05] <lordievader> Riddell: The docs in khelpcenter looks like this: http://griffioen.no-ip.org/kubuntu-docs1.png, code is over here: https://code.launchpad.net/~oliviervdtoorn/+junk/kubuntu-docs-local
[20:21] <lordievader> ovidiu-florin: What links where broken in the wiki?
[21:42] <Riddell> lordievader: ooh!