=== chriadam|away is now known as chriadam [04:23] How to Compile Uploading File Code in Ubuntu One | http://askubuntu.com/q/348934 [06:41] Good Morning [06:58] good morning === _5m0k3 is now known as wellsb [07:45] oSoMoN: can you review? https://code.launchpad.net/~schwann/gallery-app/gallery-new-album-edit/+merge/186559 [07:46] gusch: sure === chriadam is now known as chriadam|away [08:21] How can I install GDB 7.6.1 in Ubuntu 13.04 ? [08:21] The repos don't have it : https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-toolchain-r/+archive/test?field.series_filter=raring [08:21] I have GCC 4.8.1 [08:22] the package in the repos says it 7.6 but gdb --version shows: 7.5.91.20130417-cvs-ubuntu [09:09] gusch: approved (and added a comment to the MR, please advise on whether it’s a known issue) [09:13] oSoMoN: thx - no known issue, but I'm not able to reproduce (need to check on the device) [09:15] gusch: I’m seeing that on galaxy nexus [09:15] gusch: I can file a bug if you want [09:17] oSoMoN: yes please file a bug - I top approve the MR [09:17] oSoMoN: ups you did that already :) [09:17] gusch: I top-approved already [09:22] gusch: I filed bug #1229096 [09:23] oSoMoN: thx === davmor2_ is now known as davmor2 [11:52] zsombi: Ping === greyback is now known as greyback|food [11:53] Chocanto: pong [11:54] zsombi: Hey ! :) I'm happy to see that your are connected. I'm working on the docviewer app and we need to add a plugin to the sdk, the file-qml plugin. Is that possible ? [11:55] Chocanto: what is this file-qml plugin? [11:56] zsombi: https://launchpad.net/file-qml-plugin It's a plugin used to open and write files. It's used by docviewer-app and clock-app [11:57] zsombi: popey advised me to see with you [11:59] Chocanto: we had plans to include content picker types to UITK, not sure how would this fit there. The thing is that there are lots of security issues with what can be opened/picked from where... [12:00] * zsombi checking file-qml plugin branch [12:00] zsombi: Yes we thought about it... The lake of a way to open files is a real problem for some core-apps [12:01] kalikiana: could you also check the up-mentioned branch? [12:01] zsombi: And for the case of docviewer, I can't really finish it before the release if I don't have a way to use it [12:02] zsombi: The current branch don't have the "write" functionnalities because we don't need it for the moment, we done what was most important [12:04] Chocanto: got it... this would take weeks to get it productized... [12:04] zsombi: Oh... Yes i can imagine... [12:05] zsombi: I can always use it as a separate package waiting the moment when it will be productized [12:06] zsombi: Are you sure it would take so many time ? [12:07] Chocanto: so I'd suggest to use the component as it is right now, till we all get some time to get it in productized... as said we also have some plans to get a content picker, which properly gets the files requested [12:08] zsombi: Ok nice :) Thank you for your answers ! [12:08] Chocanto: look, there's no reason to add something to the SDK then remove it later just because it does not fulfill some security criteria, etc. I'd rather think of that component 10 times more, and once we have a common agreement on how it should look like, it can go in. And that takes time :) :( [12:10] Chocanto: on the other hand we most probably would need also some "low level" file API in QML, but let's not forget that QML is made mostly for UI, so heavier logic should be C++ or JS [12:10] zsombi: I totally agree with you ! I wanted to talk about it before to the sdk team but I have never managed to have someone. [12:10] Chocanto: btw, what clock is needing this? [12:10] zsombi: true, but JS does not support file reading either. So it has to be SDK [12:11] zsombi: clock needs it to read the /etc/timezone file to detect system timezone changes [12:11] nik90|Office: so, what are you using this for? [12:11] zsombi: YOu can see with nik90|Office here [12:12] zsombi: well atm the user can click on a city and set it as his current location (and current timezone). However if the timezone is changed by the system, the clock needs a way to detect this change. [12:12] nik90|Office: ehm.. that timezone thing should come through an API not necessarily by treading the /etc/timezone file... [12:13] nik90|Office: ok, but how about writing some C++ code which watches that file? [12:13] zsombi: That what we done with the file-qml plugin [12:13] zsombi: the file-plugin only reads the /etc/timezone. It does not write into it. So in a way it is a watcher [12:14] Chocanto: I cannot see anything that watches file changes of a file... [12:14] nik90|Office: well, half way :) [12:14] zsombi: but anyways, I have postponed this to post 1.0 release, so for the clock app it is okay for now [12:14] it reads the file content, but doesn't check whether the file got changed [12:14] zsombi: either way, if I create a c++ plugin, it is hard to get it into the release image now [12:15] nik90|Office agree [12:33] popey, yes, finding apps for reviewers is in the pipeline [12:34] beuno: thanks === greyback|food is now known as greyback === _salem is now known as salem_ === mzanetti is now known as mzanetti|food [13:15] zsombi: Chocanto: one thing is paramount to be aware of: apps cannot share files or read from each other (if it looks to work that's only because confinement is still under-going changes) [13:15] so if you need an API to read files, that is one thing [13:15] +1 [13:15] kalikiana: But where go files you downloaded ? [13:16] Chocanto: ~/.local/share/name-of-the-app [13:16] this is where you are expected to place stuff [13:16] kalikiana: And so, can I read files there ? [13:16] Chocanto: no [13:16] well [13:17] from your app yes [13:17] I don't know much about the Documents app, what it needs [13:17] kalikiana: Because imagine I want to read a pdf i just downloaded with the internet browser, how can I do that , [13:17] *? [13:18] the best to answer might be oSoMoN I think he's working on the download service [13:21] om26er: any idea whats wrong with tab switching? https://code.launchpad.net/~schwann/gallery-app/gallery-new-album-edit/+merge/186559 [13:21] Ok, thank you kalikiana ! :) [13:23] gusch: might be related to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/+bug/1229110 it looks a bit different but similar [13:25] When will the Ubuntu App Showdown winners be announced? The rules page says today, but Google+ posts and the dev blog seems to imply that judging won't even start until today. [13:25] iBelieve: not for a while, judging hasn't started yet [13:26] popey, okay, thanks. [13:26] kalikiana: thx for that hint [13:26] gusch, ugh, I'll have a look at this one, tab switching code probably tries to do things really quick [13:27] (I saw that in the past) [13:28] zsombi or nik90|Office: do you know which branch fixes the upstream SDK issue you mentioned yesterday which causes clock crash when alarm saving? === mzanetti|food is now known as mzanetti [13:30] popey: this one https://code.launchpad.net/~zsombi/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/alarm-status/+merge/186285 [13:31] nik90|Office: Just proposed a merge for packaging the file-qml plugin. If you have some time to review it... :) [13:31] popey: I think it is https://code.launchpad.net/~zsombi/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/statesaver/+merge/186545 [13:31] thanks [13:31] nik90|office: no, not that [13:31] zsombi: just saw ur reply [13:32] nik90|Office the MR you linked is a completely different story [13:32] nik90|Office: btw, you could also check your app against that MR... [13:33] zsombi: okay. It was regarding saving states, so I assumed that was it [13:33] zsombi: I have had issues before compiling unmerged toolkit branches to test stuff out [13:33] nik90|Office we never spoke about saving alarm states :) we spoke about expanding state information, we shouldn't save operation states :) [13:34] zsombi: no worries, it was a confusion on my end [13:34] nik90|Office: right... youneed lots of dependencies to dl... [13:35] zsombi: yup, kaleo tried showing me how, but at the end, I was left with a broken system :P due to package dependencies errors [13:36] Chocanto: will try. I say try because I am not the go to guy for debian related commits :P [13:36] Chocanto: I will compare it with the clock-app to see if the format is correct. But I cannot confirm if it will work. [13:37] nik90|Office: I used the exactly same model as my other packages so it should be ok [13:37] nik90|Office: But I can do some mistakes ^^ [13:39] Chocanto: I will review it in about 3 hours (when I get home) [13:39] nik90|Office: Ok ! [13:42] popey: were you able to talk to bzoltan about the gps thing we were discussing yesterday? [13:43] nik90|Office: I did, and he's had some success. I believe he's updating a branch in an app and will provide a link when done [13:43] bzoltan: that's right? [13:48] popey: awesome [14:41] boiko, to highlight the number by "press and hold" in the phone number input field does not work. [14:41] boiko, is that working as designed ? [14:42] om26er: not sure, the press-n-hold code wasn't changed for quite some time now I think, might not be working as the latest designs [14:43] boiko, it does highlight the text for the time while I am "holding" my thumb over the number [14:59] gusch, can you point me to the change that fixed the gallery => camera interaction please ? [15:00] I think something similar needs to be done in camera-app as well [15:00] om26er: there is such fix already? [15:01] gusch, well seems gallery to camera switch works now [15:01] I am not sure what fixed that but it was definitely not working a few days ago [15:01] om26er: I did touch that ... [15:14] oSoMoN, can you point me at any of your MR that was failing to land ? [15:14] is it possible to have ProgressBar without % written? [15:15] om26er: for example https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/webbrowser-app/permission-hide-chrome/+merge/186126 [15:16] om26er: note that I’ve just discovered an issue in the autopilot tests, I’ve submitted a MR to fix it, hopefully it will improve the situation a lot [15:17] om26er: the MR is https://code.launchpad.net/~osomon/webbrowser-app/fix-ap-activity-view/+merge/187038, I’d appreciate if you could review it [15:17] om26er: and btw CI just failed on it for maguro, see https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/generic-mediumtests-runner-maguro/1156/? [15:17] om26er: it’s always failing on opening the panel apparently [15:18] oSoMoN, that looks like an internet problem on the device :/ [15:18] om26er: I did _not_ touch that (I meant) [15:18] om26er: an internet problem? why? [15:19] oSoMoN, The mobile phone in the lab was not able to download stuff because it could not get a stable connection to the wireless network [15:19] problem with our infrastructure, I know :) [15:20] gusch, right, probably greybac_k fixed it, I see some of his changes in the gallery related to the appmanager [15:30] gusch, kenvandine : is there an api in content-hub to pass paramaters to picker app? for example, to request a certain resolution image or thumbnail from the gallery [15:31] pmcgowan was asking about this [15:32] bfiller, there isn't [15:34] kenvandine, I was pretty sure this was in the design, right now we dont need to expose in the UI, but let the requester choose somehow, even if its image vs thumbnail [15:34] bfiller, the requesting app could handle resizing/cropping/etc when it receives it [15:34] use case is the contacts app wants to get a thumbnail size from gallery [15:34] yeah [15:35] probably is bundling metadata like that into the request isn't very general, so can get pretty complicated quickly [15:35] easy solution is to expect the contacts-app to do the resize to a thumbnail [15:36] but it makes sense to off load those functions to apps that specialize in it [15:36] kenvandine, right exactly [15:36] I dont want contacts now getting image manipulation [15:36] right [15:36] especially sinc eits already been done [15:37] we should check the design again as I know this was anticipated [15:37] i know there was stuff in the design for cropping, etc [15:37] but i don't think it really designated which side that would happen in [15:37] I dont actually get the need for cropping [15:37] and it wasn't included in the API that was designed [15:37] the provider of content needs to offer the options [15:37] as it knows the content [15:37] yeah [15:37] agreed [15:38] cropping is needed for things like sharing or even backgrounds [15:38] maybe short term we hack it but I hate that [15:38] not sure I agree on cropping, but more important is image res [15:38] the API can get pretty nasty quickly [15:39] sure [15:39] I know we talked about htis like a year ago ;) [15:39] kenvandine: couldn't api be a generic name/value pair arg list that gets passed to the app? [15:40] that isn't very discoverable [15:40] like gallery-app should expose what it is capable of [15:40] and apps can utilize that [15:40] kenvandine: you're right [15:40] we need to discuss it with tvoss too [15:40] none of this is in the API he spec'd [15:42] kenvandine, agreed, maybe there are two types, pictures and thumbnails, and gallery is provider for both [15:42] kenvandine, can yous et up a quick discussion on it? [15:43] yeah, although jason was going to setup a meeting for today to discuss what's left to do [15:43] but seems he didn't yet... [15:44] pmcgowan, looking at the design spec, there is quite a bit of app work left to do [15:44] the hub itself is nearly "done" based on what i was given to do last month, but clearly things like this need to be addressed === gatox is now known as gatox_lunch [15:44] so probably not done :) [15:45] pmcgowan, bfiller: what are the plans for tackling the app work on those use cases? [15:45] is that how passing this metadata came up? [15:45] kenvandine, yes planning use case 2, pick photo for contact [15:45] kenvandine, as opposed to pick photo for background [15:47] kenvandine: yup, address-book will have to do the appropriate image manipulation itself for now [15:47] kenvandine: renato/tiagosh will be looking at that this week [15:48] great [15:49] kenvandine: regarding other app work, we are defering the UI for picking the destination application. Will simply launch gallery for now [15:49] kenvandine: and gusch working on the chrome that gallery will display in picker mode [15:49] yeah, that is working now [15:50] another use case that is going to be hard is 13 [15:50] the design of the content-hub doesn't really account for gallery-app initiating an export [15:50] bfiller, I am concerned it may be easier and better to fix this in the gallery rather than doing image manipulation in addressbook [15:50] like take this photo and share it [15:50] bfiller, seems adding a thumbnail type could solve it but will defer to you guys [15:50] the assumption right now is an app that wants the data will initiate it [15:51] but the sharing use case is more take this photo and show provides that can share it [15:51] s/provides/providers [15:52] pmcgowan: I hear you, will have to figure it out [15:52] kenvandine: yup, for 13.10 we're using the existing share a photo to facebook/twitter using friends-service that we have today [15:52] no other export scenarios will be supported [15:53] bfiller, ok, so we can defer that use case for content-hub for later? [15:53] kenvandine: yes I think so [15:54] cool, i think we need to put some thought into that [15:54] like a different handler type [15:54] we can have Import, Export, Share [15:54] maybe [15:54] and we can have a share handler exposed [16:10] kenvandine bfiller pmcgowan one thing that is missing in content hub, is support for the app lifecycle (the import is broken if the app was killed meanwhile) [16:12] kenvandine bfiller pmcgowan and if gallery crops the photo, where should it save the result? [16:12] gusch, in the store set in the transfer [16:13] oh, that is a little interesting [16:13] it might not have access to the store [16:13] lets not do cropping right now? [16:13] gusch: no one proposing doing cropping [16:13] what is minimal needed to support the contact getting a photo? [16:13] which is usable [16:16] gusch, for confined apps, we set a default store on the transfer request to a tmp location, the hub copies the files to that location after the source charges it [16:16] and purges that when it's done [16:16] the destination can set a store itself, in which case the hub doesn't purge it [16:17] but does copy it there on charge [16:19] kenvandine: so I could write my local copy in gallery, charge, the hubg would copy it, and then when collected, gallery can delete it's local copy (or even do it right after calling charge?) [16:20] yeah, in fact it could do it when the state changes to charged [16:20] if copies the files and changes the paths in the items list before changing the state [16:27] nik90_, ping [16:28] mhall119: out of curiosity if a dev wanted to create an application that used an installed phone backend (example telepathy) but need a plugin installing into that how would you go about that or do you need to just reinvent the wheel? === bfiller is now known as bfiller_afk [16:38] I can't find a way to bind ProgressBar.value to a c++ exposed model value in a ListView [16:41] davmor2: there's been conversation about doing that (specifically installing codecs to gstreamer) but not current solution [16:42] jdstrand and cjwatson could probably tell you more about what likely plans are === gatox_lunch is now known as gatox [16:45] App Showdown results were announced? [16:46] who won that sweet nexus 4? [16:46] * narekb licks lips [16:48] nakerb 3 sweet nexus ))) [16:51] nerochiaro, hey [16:51] om26er: hi [16:51] nerochiaro, can you please look into this one: bug 1229291 [16:51] nerochiaro, https://bugs.launchpad.net/camera-app/+bug/1229291 [16:52] "gallery button does not work in camera app" [16:52] its a regression and probably not something we want to ship in the release [16:54] iBelieve: pong [16:54] nik90_, I noticed something funny about the clock app's clock face colors when the face isn't centered. Let me get a screenshot [16:55] Did someone look at bugs in Slider? :) I filled three after first usage :) [16:55] nik90_, here: http://i.imgur.com/Opk6X0I.png [16:55] nik90_, it looks like the colors aren't based on the background [16:56] nik90_, so they look too pink or too purple when the clock face is dragged [16:56] iBelieve: yeah I noticed that too...at first I thought my screen showed a differnt color when it was dragged up but apparently not :P [16:56] iBelieve: I will have a look at it [17:03] mrqtros, narekb: Judging of the apps haven't started yet. The past week was spent getting the applicatioons into the store. [17:03] om26er: do other buttons to switch between apps work fine ? [17:03] mrqtros, narekb: I think it will happen this week. [17:03] om26er: i will have time to look at it tomorrow, I think [17:03] nerochiaro, I can come from gallery to camera [17:04] nerochiaro, camera to gallery does not work [17:04] nik90_, ok, we'll see, thanks [17:04] om26er: ok, i'll look into it tomorrow after i finish with the metrics [17:04] om26er: asac also wanted me or someone else to check why the notes tests were failing at random times (like one time every 20 or so, in random ways) [17:05] om26er: but a test run on my maguro didn't uncover any failures after a lot of iterations [17:05] nerochiaro, I can look closer at the notes-app tests but they really fail at random. [17:09] how can we change page color in QML ??any idea? [17:09] dpm: ? [17:10] mihir, have a look at how other core apps do it, you need to change the header, body and footer color as MainView properties, IIRC [17:11] Hmm i looked it's available only in MainView i did try to look for page properties... [17:14] nik90_ sad :( [17:15] mrqtros: you do realise that for an app store still in beta, there have been challenges faced by app developers to get their apps in. And that takes time. [17:16] nik90_ I have big troubles too - my app uses C++ plugin [17:16] nik90_ had* :) [17:16] mrqtros: then you can understand the dealy [17:16] delay* [17:17] nik90_ Can someone publish list of participants? :) [17:17] nik90_ I want to know, how many people are participating with ported apps :) [17:18] mrqtros, why so curious :D seriously though, /r/ubuntuappshowdown? [17:18] can someone explain me why this progressbar isn't working? http://paste.ubuntu.com/6146385/ this item is a delegate of a Listmodel and progress is an item role [17:19] om26er: if they do fail at random and you can reproduce, then can you please have a look into fixing what's not reliable in them ? I really can't do that since I can't reproduce the problem and i have other priorities assigned to me. [17:19] om26er: but asac really wanted to have someone assigned to doing that [17:20] nerochiaro, can you link me to the failures ? [17:20] nakerb do you mean something like that? :) http://www.reddit.com/r/ubuntuappshowdown/search?q=port&restrict_sr=on&sort=relevance&t=all === alecu is now known as alecu_errands === salem_ is now known as _salem [17:44] nik90_: The package work nice on pbuilder, so it would have no problems prima facie :) [17:47] timp, ping [17:47] timp, do you mind if I change the .desktop files of examples in the UbuntuUIToolkit to NoShow=True ? === bfiller_afk is now known as bfiller [17:48] they show up on Ubuntu phone and clutter the dash as hollow icons [17:48] have someone ever used the progress bar with a model delegate? :( [17:50] can i have my app set it's own theme? i.e. use SuruDark, or does it have to honor whatever's in ~/.config/ubuntu-ui-toolkit/theme.ini? [17:52] ok i got it [18:11] snizzo do you have any problems? :) [18:16] Chocanto: nice. I reviewed it [18:44] tmoenicke: hey, I just hit one behavior here: if you lock the screen while the keyboard is visible (when one input field has focus), when you unlock the screen, the keyboard is gone [18:44] tmoenicke: is this a known bug or should I report it? [18:45] boiko: does it still have focus? [18:47] tmoenicke: yep [18:47] gah, my app isn't working when using custom themes, but all the other apps seem to [18:47] i wonder what i did wrong.. [18:47] cwayne: is the code somewhere I can take a look? === _salem is now known as salem_ [18:48] boiko, lp:uwoot [18:50] boiko: i looked at this some weeks ago, iirc it still has focus but Qt does not report inputMethodAccepted true on the item anymore, so the inputmethod plugin cannot decide to show or not to show the osk [18:51] tmoenicke: ok, so known issue? [18:52] boiko: we should have a closer look, maybe we open a bug for osk to investigate this [18:52] tmoenicke: ok, let me report that then [18:55] boiko: great, thanks! === alecu_errands is now known as alecu [19:10] tmoenicke: which project/package should I report this? [19:12] boiko: sec .. [19:14] boiko: ubuntu-keyboard [19:14] tmoenicke: thanks === mterry__ is now known as mterry [19:55] how to execute ubuntu terminal commands using java and get back response from terminal | http://askubuntu.com/q/349215 [22:02] timp, ping === salem_ is now known as _salem