[08:05] ogra_: lool: hi :) [08:05] didrocks: good morning \o/ [08:06] asac: hey! In fact, already there for 2 hours, but didn't noticed I was only connected to canonical network, not freenode [08:06] asac: but good morning to you too ;) [08:07] thx! [08:07] didrocks: had a great weekend? [08:07] build 59 looks better thatn 58 [08:07] asac: was nice! Did some Via Ferrata near Grenoble for my bachelor party [08:07] (Vincent Untz was there as well) [08:08] so a sportive saturday, but really enjoyed it [08:08] didrocks: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Via_ferrata ? [08:08] asac: yeah ;) [08:08] didrocks: Morning. Would you have a chance to dry-run cu2d as ubuntu-archive@snakefruit as best you can and see if there are any missing pieces on the new host? [08:08] 3h of climbing [08:08] what that is very sportslike [08:08] didrocks: If we're lucky then maybe hloeung is still around and we can cut over this morning [08:09] asac: yeah, also, better to ensure your equipment can be trusted, you don't have a second chance ;) [08:09] cjwatson: I would prefer having a real publishing tick (with something to publish), as everything is manual, I'm afraid that won't be that morning [08:09] didrocks: a bit scary :) [08:09] but good that you made it back safely [08:10] cjwatson: I'm removing the cronjob on lillypilly [08:10] and will make the first run when there is something to publish [08:10] asac: heh, thanks! Yeah, I was wondering if my brother didn't try to get off me ;) [08:10] oh we have a new host. nice [08:10] lol [08:11] didrocks: argh [08:11] * asac wonders whats going on with maguro [08:11] didrocks: no, don't remove the cronjob yet [08:11] asac: it was that one: http://www.viaferrata-fr.net/via-ferrata-46-La-Cascade-Les-Orres-Hautes-Alpes.html [08:11] cjwatson: hum, but if I don't remove it, lillypilly will win over snakefruit [08:11] didrocks: if you can't dry-run it, just be around when we cut over [08:11] didrocks: but snakefruit hasn't been fully commissioned yet :) [08:11] didrocks: i.e. we haven't put its cron jobs in place [08:12] cjwatson: I can dry-run it, but this will only give us 90% confidence, not 100 [08:12] didrocks: I'll disable the lillypilly ones en masse when we enable snakefruit [08:12] didrocks: that's exactly what I'm looking for [08:12] didrocks: I just want to check for missing packages and that kind of thing [08:12] cjwatson: ok, let me do this then [08:13] It'll need a final rsync before we switch [08:13] cjwatson: I need the launchpad cred for the archive admin bot [08:13] Really? I set that up last week. [08:14] any different path than regular one? I'm getting the browser need login message… [08:14] Give me the link it gives you and I'll authorise it [08:14] cjwatson: https://launchpad.net/+authorize-token?oauth_token=1tPzQGtwQcwhB7Z3QHZH&allow_permission=DESKTOP_INTEGRATION [08:15] didrocks: Should be authed now [08:15] cjwatson: yeah, perfect, thanks! [08:16] cjwatson: ok, all imports passed, so we should be fine [08:16] OK, great, thanks [08:16] cjwatson: yw, just tell me when you want to do the switch so that I can ensure I'm able to do it manually [08:17] ogra_: so i dont think that the lightdm did my maguro very well [08:17] bah, hloeung is off today, I'll have to find another victim [08:17] ogra_: it doesnt boot to UI anymore [08:18] ogra_: with crashes in //var/crash [08:18] ogra_: i believe that reflects what we see on the dashboard [08:25] asac, what we see on the dashboard are surfaceflinger crashes on the android side [08:26] ogra_: my maguro doesnt boot anymore :/ [08:26] i have no idea how ligthdm could cause that [08:26] :( [08:27] i mean, it is not that lightdm executes SF or anything ... [08:27] (i see the crashes in the logcat outputs of the different tests) [08:27] your maguro doesnt boot either i am sure :) [08:28] * asac downgrades u-t-s to 0.69 [08:28] \o/ [08:28] ogra_: its back. u-t-s 0.69 fixes it [08:28] can we backout to produce a good image? [08:29] :-P [08:29] asac, could you please test .01 too [08:29] err [08:29] 0.71 [08:29] 01? [08:29] ogra_: i did [08:29] didnt help [08:29] well its in 59 [08:29] ok [08:29] ok talk in 1 minutes :) [08:29] just wanted to make sure it isnt the missign hack (though that was utah only anyway) [08:29] right [08:32] lool: coming? [08:33] Hi [08:33] I'm in [08:33] sorry, I'm still sick [08:33] since saturday [08:34] but it's ok, I'll be mostly around today [08:44] root@ubuntu-phablet:/# grep GRID /home/phablet/.bashrc [08:44] export GRID_UNIT_PX=18 [08:44] lool, ^^^ [08:45] first boot the session scripts set this up ... so sudo has it [08:47] ok, will look [08:53] asac: libmirclient depended on by : xorg-server, platform-api [08:53] asac: libmirserver depended on by : unity-mir, unity-system-compositor, platform-api [09:11] Uploading to ubuntu (via ftp to upload.ubuntu.com): [09:11] Uploading ubuntu-touch-session_0.72.dsc: done. [09:11] Uploading ubuntu-touch-session_0.72.tar.gz: done. [09:11] Uploading ubuntu-touch-session_0.72_source.changes: done. [09:11] Successfully uploaded packages. [09:11] asac, ^^^ [09:17] didrocks: if you have the link to the crash / bug [09:17] lool: asac started the discussion, I'm looking at the logs now [09:18] lool: nothing in logs, it was showing in AP tests AFAIK === vrruiz_ is now known as rvr [09:33] ogra_: didrocks: lool: Mirv: ok unity8 autopilots succeed on amguro with ubuntu-touch session backout [09:33] great! [09:34] ogra_: asac: tell me when the image is "greened". I'll handle the camera thing then [09:34] didrocks: oh ... camera needs to go in for greening [09:34] its a autopilot fix only [09:34] let me test [09:34] one sec [09:35] asac: camera-app built successfully and it's a click away to publish (tests pass on desktop), just need to get phone testing I guess (especially if ogra mentions manual tests for them) [09:36] * asac wonders if can ban bzip and xz from touch :) [09:36] never tried ;) [09:36] * didrocks brings back more tissues first, not for crying, but for the cold :p [09:36] lol [09:37] camera_app running [09:37] 1 minute [09:37] then you can push [09:37] great [09:37] lool: your stuff... when can you land the click scop in-archive fix? [09:37] * didrocks needs to reflash his phone anyway [09:38] didrocks: yeah... you need to downgrade ubuntu-touch-session to 0.6.9 [09:38] err 0.69 ... if its a maguro [09:38] it's mako [09:38] still need to downgrade? [09:38] didrocks: i dont know... :) its a bit crashier from what ogra said [09:38] but seems to have no impact on tests according to dashboard [09:39] maybe for once, the infra went lucky [09:39] i would say ... if you can see a UI and use it, give that a try [09:39] red light first, so will take a little bit more time :) [09:39] asac: yes [09:42] didrocks: red light == charging? [09:42] asac: yeah [09:42] oha [09:42] hehe [09:42] not touching it for 5 days and here is the result :p [09:42] (let's say I didn't use it during the via ferrata to not risk canonical's phone ;)) [09:43] thostr_: did you find/land a fix for the crashes? [09:43] in trunk? [09:43] didrocks: seems at least emergency shut down worked [09:43] otherwise you would not be able to charge :) [09:43] asac: yes, we found the reason.... it's only happening in testing, but never ever in production [09:43] asac: yeah, quite happy (and surprised) about that one TBH ;) [09:43] didrocks: camera_app succeeeded [09:43] go for it [09:43] \o/ /me pushes [09:44] * asac happy that finally the stupid test_shoot_disable [09:44] test if xied [09:44] thostr_: fix coming? [09:44] asac: yes [09:44] asac: working on it.... it's not a one liner [09:44] ah ok [09:44] cjwatson: trying to go through snakefruit for that publishing, keeping you posted [09:44] thostr_: so you think landing tomorrow? [09:44] or today later? [09:45] I'd aim for later today, but more realistic might be tomorrow [09:45] right [09:45] thx [09:45] asac: but as said, this shouldn't be a blocker as it only affects testing right now [09:45] didrocks: No [09:45] didrocks: Stop [09:45] ah? [09:45] didrocks: We're going to be doing a final rsync of everything before cutting over [09:45] cjwatson: if I loose a xml file, not a biggie [09:46] didrocks: So your filesystem is going to get walloped. I'd really appreciate it if you waited [09:46] didrocks: It won't be long, hopefully [09:46] cjwatson: do you have any idea on how long it will take? [09:46] like an hour? [09:46] I'm trying to get hold of a sysadmin right now, see #is [09:47] asac: agreed to wait for few minutes before deciding to publish camera? [09:47] All I wanted from snakefruit pre-cutover was testing, not production use [09:47] asac: just to ensure the new machine is working after the rsync [09:47] didrocks: can we push that in before the we do the swtich? [09:47] ah [09:47] well if the switch is under way [09:47] asac: that would be a way to ensure the new setup is working as well [09:47] then... guess we have no choice, but to wait? [09:47] didrocks: ok [09:47] didrocks: when? [09:47] 11:46:42 cjwatson | I'm trying to get hold of a sysadmin right now, see #is [09:47] asac: ^ [09:47] right [09:48] asac: all is done, what's missing is only the cp to the archive [09:48] didrocks: Could you be around earlyish tomorrow morning? [09:49] didrocks: hloeung owns the ticket and jacekn doesn't particularly want to jump in - but hloeung is APAC [09:50] cjwatson: I'm around starting at 5am UTC generally (just had network issues to connect to freenode today) [09:50] Aha [09:51] didrocks: OK, great, let's aim for tomorrow morning, I'll get up as early as I can manage [09:51] ok ;) [09:51] So just carry on with lillypilly for now [09:51] cjwatson: do you think there is a risk if I try with snakefruit? [09:51] I'll let -engineering know that there'll be a period of archive job downtime tomorrow morning [09:52] didrocks: I would really prefer if you didn't [09:52] ok [09:52] unity-scope-click uploaded, waiting for accepted email [09:52] dont take risks :) [09:52] It's just way too confusing to have both active [09:52] lool: awesome [09:52] accepted [09:52] cjwatson: sure sure [09:52] If you want to dry-run on snakefruit, be my guest [09:52] asac: done [09:53] nice [09:53] ogra_: build failure :/ [09:54] ogra_: just taking the same tarball as 0.69 and changing version to 0.72+0.69 doesnt work? [10:00] asac, i'm rolling back on bzr level, the version hackery isnt needed ... [10:00] ogra_: but it failed :) [10:00] so the roll back wasnt perfect [10:00] * ogra_ chacks the buila failure [10:00] hehe [10:01] ogra_: so ... our lightdm issue brought upstream merger to halt [10:01] ":) [10:01] lets get it fixes [10:01] fixed [10:01] http://10.97.2.10:8080/job/generic-mediumtests-runner-maguro/1126/consoleFull [10:01] all tests failing ... sounds like its because its broken [10:01] no pressure though :) [10:02] hmm, weird, that looks like a bzr bug [10:02] it didnt roll back the rneaming of a file [10:02] *renaming [10:03] i see it in the commit though [10:03] * ogra_ renames manually [10:03] Always best to debdiff the two versions you expect to be identical, just to confirm [10:03] (it rolled back the content of the file but not its name) [10:03] yeah next time [10:04] ok get it up :) [10:07] didrocks: do you know where to see how the phone/image was set up here: http://10.97.2.10:8080/job/generic-mediumtests-saucy/3809/console ? [10:07] e.g. what base image is used [10:07] how it was dist-upgraded etc.? [10:08] actually looking for info whether: http://10.97.2.10:8080/job/generic-mediumtests-runner-maguro/ uses our busted lightdm etc. [10:08] asac: I don't have creds on that jenkins, so I can't access to the configuration [10:08] ubuntu-touch-session version [10:08] didrocks: no way to find it in logs? ok... thanks [10:08] new session manager uplaoded [10:08] asac: I think their medium tests don't log that, indeed :/ [10:09] (that's why we need just one system to test everything) [10:09] not 3 [10:09] ogra_: woow \o/ [10:09] well, was just a bzr mv ... [10:09] :) [10:09] asac: oh, I see a dpkg-setup, one sec [10:10] asac: weird, the jenkins config is screwed anyway, from the logs, there are a lot more artefacts (and the interesting dpkg-l one), but it seems jenkins isn't setup to collect them [10:16] * asac hugs ogra_ for the quick build fix for ubuntu-touch-session [10:16] * asac tries that [10:16] didrocks: hmm. can we see the content in the log or is it now hidden in non-captured log files? [10:17] asac: sorry, I'm not sure what you are asking for [10:17] ah, the content of the file for the generic- test [10:18] didrocks: the output of dpkg -l for instance. is that visible in the log itself? [10:18] asac: I think it's hidden in non-captured log files. But francis will be the contact point. It's not using otto and I don't have access to that jenkins [10:19] right [10:20] didrocks: which jenkins [10:20] bah [10:20] cjohnston: 10.97.2.10 [10:20] ... how can i prevent this MTP thing popping up new windows everytime [10:21] asac: +1 in the annoyance [10:21] * asac hugs ogra [10:21] asac, hacking up a gconf key on the desktop [10:21] ogra_: thanks... confirmed that the deb works [10:21] yeah, its exactly what 0.69 had [10:21] ogra_: i think i would be happy if it didnt pop up new windows each time it boots [10:21] i accumulated like 10 windows [10:21] yeah, thats a nautilus prob [10:22] it should close the windows if the device goes away [10:22] didrocks: which job and what files [10:22] but it doesnt [10:22] http://10.97.2.10:8080/job/generic-mediumtests-saucy/3809/console ? [10:22] ogra_, or reuse an already opened window instead of opening a new one [10:22] cjohnston: ^^ [10:23] jibel: ++ [10:23] that would be perfect :) [10:23] jibel, yeah [10:23] guess its a gnome bug though :-P [10:23] right, nautilus or gvfs [10:23] cjohnston: http://10.97.2.10:8080/job/generic-mediumtests-runner-maguro/1126/consoleFull (you don't have the backlog here?) [10:23] lool: which package was your upload? [10:23] * asac tries to look at proposed [10:23] cjohnston: we need the dpkg-l postsetup I think [10:24] https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unity-scope-click/0.1+13.10.20130906.1-0ubuntu3 [10:24] lool: found it [10:24] ok so unity-scope-click (0.1+13.10.20130906.1-0ubuntu2 to 0.1+13.10.20130906.1-0ubuntu3) [10:24] is blocked by beta [10:24] i guess [10:24] cjwatson: this is one we should unblock in theory, right? [10:25] I believe so, although I'm a little surprised that it showed up in Laney's block [10:25] lool: didrocks: ^^ i think you two have powers to unblock our packages [10:26] guess check with laney and cjwatson what to do there [10:26] I sent mail about that [10:26] yeah, doing [10:26] Including advice to coordinate on #ubuntu-release for things that affect shared images [10:26] Not sure this is really shared though, looks like a FP [10:27] asac, oh it would have been nice to know if maguro worked with Mir so we would know if we need to do anything in that regard as well once the Mir switch happens (since lightdm is an essential req. in that case) [10:30] ogra_: i prefer to wait until we get the latest mir from the sprint [10:30] after greening the image [10:30] didrocks: I have to head off to the airport.. if fginther hasn't helped you with that before I get back, I'll work on it. [10:31] ogra_: (before trying locally) ... i can try though if you want ... not sure what to do though [10:31] cjohnston: thanks! have a safe travel [10:31] thanks [10:32] asac, well, Mir starts today even thought it is shaky ... would be good to confirm it still does :) but yeah i guess it can wait til Mir lands [10:33] ogra_: right. maybe rather wormk on ubuntu-touch-session [10:33] :) [10:33] ogra_: so we can get it back for system-settings [10:33] ogra_: can you tell me what the idea is on how to ensure we get exactly thge same environment? [10:35] ogra_: maybe this is something that rather mterry should do>? [10:41] lool: we got an answer on that click landing etc. [10:41] he believes we have everything in place now? [10:41] asac: the scope one or the click click one [10:42] lool: click [10:42] \didnt know there were two threads [10:42] eh what? didn't know there was a landing of click itself [10:42] seeing as there's nothing unlanded [10:42] lool: anyway, please /msg ralsina to be sure that he understands all the aspects of both [10:42] cjwatson: I think that's still 0.4.7 [10:42] yes, which is current [10:43] line 53 in landing plan [10:43] asac: the click landing shouldn't affect ralsina [10:43] lool: alejandro works for him [10:43] cjwatson: we consider things "landed" when the image is promoted ;-) [10:43] lool: 53 is landed - I just haven't checked whether it's INIMAGE [10:43] and he was CCed [10:43] well, ok [10:43] cjwatson: he is doing the click scope etc. [10:43] err [10:43] lool: ^^ [10:43] cjwatson: which is the only confusion there is, you consider it done and asac is still tracking it [10:44] so cjwatson's upload is done [10:44] thats fine [10:44] i am talking about the UI parts etc. [10:44] thats click scope for me [10:44] (which is mentionmed Incomplete click stack landing [10:44] ) [10:44] asac: yes, click itself is fine and unrelated and is all going well; the only issue is unity-scope-click, but that landing is also going fine now since it will soon be INARCHIVE I guess [10:44] didrocks: did you add that hint already? [10:44] i need to look how to do that, it's in email somewhere [10:45] lool: but we did manual uploads... please ensure ralsina and alejandro know what to do [10:45] lool: sorry, what hint? [10:45] they a) havent fixed the crash we backed out... and b) have diverged it seems [10:45] didrocks: to let unity-scope-click through [10:45] lool: the hint shouldnt be needed [10:45] lool: you mean, in archive? see #ubuntu-release [10:45] laney found a bug and afaiui next run it should just be unblocked [10:45] ah ok, will look there [10:45] no hint needed [10:45] asac: I wrote about the manual upload(s) in the email [10:45] well, so far i dont see change [10:45] explaining what to do [10:45] lool: right. they dont get it [10:46] ah [10:46] lool: you have to /msg them and explain step by step [10:46] ok [10:46] is my feel [10:46] :) [10:46] lool: also ralsina wasnt on that email [10:46] yeah, I think you will need :) [10:47] asac: he was bcc-ed actually [10:47] right Sep 23 11:55:06 localhost postfix/smtp[2089]: 789283D3356: to=, relay=smtp.dooz.org[88.191.118.219]:587, delay=0.62, delays=0.05/0.05/0.33/0.19, dsn=2.0.0, status=sent (250 2.0.0 Ok: queued as 06EFCC01C7) [10:47] lool: who knows what mails he got... i am CCing him [10:47] lool: there were more mails [10:47] just /msg him [10:47] i am sure he doesnt know what is going on still [10:48] asac: ack; hadn't cc:ed him because I had only fwd-ed the original thread to him [10:48] asac: note that the unity-scope-click bzr unfucking doesn't block us in anyway for the image [10:48] well, i want this fixed [10:48] it should happen soon, but it's not like "drop everything you're doing and do it" kind of problem [10:48] :) [10:48] no its not [10:48] just give him a heads up in /msg what is going on [10:48] and then you are done [10:49] (otherwise i am pretty srue that in 1-2 weeks time we will find out that nothing happened and wonder who didnt get what) [10:50] jibel: do you know anything about upstream merger? we had problems figuring if an upload to ubunt-touch-session will automatically get pulled into those devices [10:50] do you know? [10:50] * asac assumes it doesn [10:51] ncie... all three apps are valid candidates [10:51] err three packages [10:52] unity-scope-click is Valid candidate now [10:52] ack [10:53] should be published in the release pocket in the next 30 minutes [10:55] 30 minutes? :) [10:55] maybe is there like an intermediate area where our images could pull stuff from without that delay? [10:56] infinity: how is the build stack going? :) [10:59] asac, oh, for sure, its mterrys code, but we should give him a hand at least [10:59] asac: the only intermediate area is saucy-proposed, which will contain stuff you don't want [10:59] so no [10:59] BTW I have a candidate fix for one of the two regressions of music playback experience (this one in upstart-app-launch); it's complex to review, so I hope to get this done this afternoon [10:59] asac: the switch to snakefruit will speed things up though [10:59] (a bit) [11:00] asac, and we wont and cant have the same environment, the addition of logind makes polkit work, i dont think anyone worked on shipping the right pkla files to get access to dbus with their apps afterwards [11:00] asac, which means we should go through all apps and see if they can still talk to their backends [11:01] didrocks: sorry, where are you pulling ubuntu-download-manager from? Vcs-Bzr seems out of date and I'd like to fix this by sending a mp, but don't know where :-) [11:01] along these lines the addition of Mir will change the whole thing again [11:01] (input direct instead of through the android layer ... well and likely different environment to SF) [11:01] * lool tries lp:ubuntu-download-manager [11:02] lool: should be lp:ubuntu-download-manager [11:02] let me check [11:02] didrocks: so the default is to assume package name == bzr name in cupstream2distro-config? [11:02] didrocks: this seems to be the code [11:02] lool: right [11:02] (yeah, I confirm it's lp:ubuntu-download-manager) [11:02] lool: if there is no target_branch:, it's lp:project_name [11:03] trying to get a minimal config [11:03] ok [11:03] didrocks: makes complete sense, thanks [11:03] * didrocks does some SRU for OEM [11:03] lool: yw! [11:05] didrocks: could you review this https://code.launchpad.net/~lool/ubuntu-download-manager/fix-vcs-url/+merge/187004 for me? [11:05] asac, I don't know anything about upstream merger, sorry [11:05] lool: sure [11:06] lool: please keep the warning [11:06] lool: it was needed for some distro guys to understand what's the best practice is [11:06] (but I agree it's cumbersome) [11:11] didrocks: do you think upstrea merger devices usually get a update/dist-upgrade before starting? e.g. will maguro be fixed for them? [11:11] -> assuming update happened in saucy [11:12] asac: I honestly *think* they are just using the latest image and install what they have in their local repo [11:12] didrocks: latest image == latest proposed? or latest stable? [11:13] guess must be latest proposed [11:13] if the theory is that maguro is completely busted because of the u-t-s brickage [11:13] as they didn't want to build against -proposed their packages, I guess they did the same for testing, so using the latest stable image [11:13] didrocks: -proposed == daily-proposed or proposed archive/pocket [11:13] I hope that we change that and build against -proposed (and using the proposed image) [11:13]