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| pitti | Bonjour tout le monde | 03:56 |
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| czajkowski | aloha | 05:20 |
| Mirv | hello czajkowski | 05:35 |
| jibel | Good morning | 06:47 |
| Mirv | hello jibel | 06:59 |
| jibel | Hey Mirv | 07:05 |
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| Laney | hallo | 08:03 |
| didrocks | ok, after 2 hours just being connected to other IRC network and looking at emails, I found that IRC was weirdly too quiet. Seems I didn't join freenode :p | 08:07 |
| Laney | a great ping avoidance tactic there | 08:08 |
| czajkowski | didrocks: lol | 08:10 |
| czajkowski | one way to get some work done to be fair | 08:10 |
| BigWhale | Greetings everyone. After a long absence, I just wanted to say that you guys rock. Now, move along, nothing to see here. :) | 08:11 |
| didrocks | czajkowski: it clearly worked! :) | 08:12 |
| czajkowski | Laney: I haz pug! ! | 08:16 |
| mlankhorst | grr, morning | 08:16 |
| Laney | czajkowski: I saw the picture! | 08:19 |
| Laney | cuuuuuuute | 08:19 |
| Laney | mlankhorst: how's the jet lag? | 08:19 |
| mlankhorst | not bad :P | 08:19 |
| mlankhorst | I think | 08:19 |
| mlankhorst | only just woke up though | 08:19 |
| bdrung | good morning. :) | 08:24 |
| Mirv | haha didrocks, I thought you just wanted radio silence until worked through emails | 08:29 |
| didrocks | Mirv: well, was a nice consequence but wasn't intended ;) | 08:29 |
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| Sweetshark_away | Bonjours a tous! Just a note, I am conferencing this week so expect latency ... | 09:33 |
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| desrt | Laney: hey | 12:23 |
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| Saviq | desrt, larsu bounced to you: | 12:56 |
| Saviq | <Saviq> larsu, so, we need multiple sets of values for "infographic palettes" | 12:56 |
| Saviq | larsu, so that would be palette1/foreground palette1/background etc. | 12:56 |
| Saviq | larsu, would relocatable dconf schemas be a good way to store those in dconf? | 12:56 |
| Saviq | larsu, question no. 2 - to iterate over those, should they just all be stored under a common path, so, say /com/canonical/infographic/palettes/{palette1,palette2} etc.? | 12:56 |
| Saviq | and if so, do we need a *list* of those paths stored somewhere, or would iterating over /com/canonical/infographic/palettes/'s children be enough | 12:56 |
| larsu | desrt: ^^ | 12:57 |
| larsu | how does gnome-terminal store profiles? | 12:57 |
| desrt | we want to allow the user to set their own palette for infographics? | 12:57 |
| desrt | seems a bit.... excessive | 12:57 |
| desrt | why can't we just pick a good palette? | 12:58 |
| Saviq | desrt, impossible | 12:58 |
| desrt | (and maybe another one for the low-vision theme) | 12:58 |
| Saviq | desrt, for different backgrounds | 12:58 |
| Saviq | desrt, more over, we need those to be oem / operator-overridable | 12:58 |
| desrt | ah. a question of branding. | 12:59 |
| larsu | personally, I'd go with a dictionary or array | 12:59 |
| Saviq | desrt, yeah | 12:59 |
| desrt | okay. | 12:59 |
| desrt | oem overrides ~= gsettings overrides | 12:59 |
| desrt | user ~= gsettings | 12:59 |
| desrt | er. ~= dconf | 12:59 |
| desrt | but i sort of agree with larsu here.... having an entire schema to describe a palette seems to be overkill | 12:59 |
| desrt | seems more like you should have a single array of colour names ('as') | 13:00 |
| Saviq | desrt, that'd have to be an array of arrays | 13:00 |
| Saviq | desrt, as we need to have multiple palettes "active" at a time, to choose from | 13:00 |
| desrt | because you want multiple palettes, user-selectable? | 13:00 |
| Saviq | desrt, so it's not about selecting a *single* palette, but a *set* of palettes | 13:01 |
| desrt | what is the choice criteria between the palettes? | 13:01 |
| Saviq | desrt, from which we'll then choose runtime | 13:01 |
| Saviq | based on wallpaper / infographic source / whatever | 13:01 |
| desrt | that's not really saying very much | 13:01 |
| desrt | how do i decide between palette 0 and 1 based on wallpaper? | 13:01 |
| desrt | the brightness of the wallpaper? | 13:02 |
| Saviq | desrt, average color and stuff - we'll need algorithms for that | 13:02 |
| desrt | representative colours? | 13:02 |
| desrt | okay... but say i know the average colour for the wallpaper (and we already have an algorithm for that, btw)... how do i turn that into a choice of palette? | 13:02 |
| desrt | go through the list and see which is a 'best fit'? | 13:02 |
| Saviq | desrt, yeah, something like that - and then the user should be able to override, if the algorithm barfs | 13:02 |
| desrt | okay. this is not a setting. | 13:03 |
| desrt | this is data. | 13:03 |
| Saviq | desrt, I agree | 13:03 |
| Saviq | pete-woods, ↑ input? | 13:03 |
| desrt | the setting, if any, is that there should be a "palette name" (string?) setting that the user can set | 13:03 |
| desrt | the palette colours themselves should not be stored in gsettings, i think | 13:03 |
| desrt | gsettings is not really meant to be an oem override management system -- it's meant to be for settings that the user might actually want to set | 13:04 |
| pete-woods | Saviq: I have no particular need for the palettes to be configured through dconf, but I was requested to read them from there, so that's what I'm trying to do | 13:04 |
| desrt | there are lots of other (more boring and appropriate) ways to allow oem overrides | 13:04 |
| larsu | there's also a widely recognized format for storing palettes (all the drawing programs use it). It's a very simple text file | 13:05 |
| desrt | this sounds much better | 13:05 |
| Saviq | larsu, desrt yeah, I was leaning towards some ini-file-style palettes, and only storing the path to them in gsettings | 13:06 |
| desrt | Saviq: store the basename | 13:06 |
| Saviq | yes | 13:06 |
| Saviq | that | 13:06 |
| larsu | Saviq: right. I'd go with the name, though, and have the path be something static | 13:06 |
| larsu | ah. okay | 13:06 |
| desrt | Saviq: then you can do a gsettings override for the default name, if you like | 13:06 |
| * larsu has too much irc lag | 13:06 | |
| Saviq | XDG_DATA_DIR | 13:06 |
| Saviq | FTW | 13:06 |
| larsu | \o/ | 13:07 |
| desrt | XDG_DATA_DIRS/palettes/[basename].ext | 13:07 |
| desrt | or whatever | 13:07 |
| larsu | err, unity-palettes | 13:07 |
| Saviq | pete-woods, what do you say? | 13:07 |
| pete-woods | Saviq: that sounds sensible enough to me | 13:07 |
| mterry | robru_, so... any luck poking around for an answer to the ubuntu-sdk / qtaudioengine question? | 13:10 |
| attente | alberts, hey | 13:19 |
| attente | i'm running flashback right now but can't seem to replicate the problem | 13:20 |
| alberts | attente: hey. what problem? | 13:20 |
| attente | with the indicators getting mashed up with the app menu | 13:20 |
| attente | also the *v* problem seems to be a transcription problem | 13:21 |
| attente | i'm guessing he meant just v, but then again i don't know what value v is supposed to be | 13:21 |
| attente | same problem there | 13:21 |
| alberts | attente: I will try install ubuntu and test app menu myself. | 13:23 |
| alberts | attente: but that line now is causing error. isn't it better to revert that line? | 13:26 |
| attente | alberts, i think so | 13:27 |
| attente | i think it should use a new MP though | 13:27 |
| bjf | bug or feature? in recent saucy update: i'm no longer able to set my 'caps lock' to 'ctrl' with: dconf write /org/gnome/libgnomekbd/keyboard/options "['ctrl\tctrl:nocaps']" | 14:07 |
| bjf | is there a new way to do this? | 14:07 |
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| alberts | attente: how did you test indicator-applet problem? I added comment on merge proposal. | 14:37 |
| attente | alberts, i tested it and everything seemed fine | 14:41 |
| attente | but i guess there's something wrong on my end if it's broken from a clean daily build | 14:41 |
| alberts | attente, you tested on saucy, right? in gnome flashback session? | 14:42 |
| attente | alberts, is there something i need to do other than logging into the flashback session? | 14:42 |
| attente | alberts, yes | 14:42 |
| alberts | attente: yes. 1) you need install indicator-applet, indicator-applet-appmenu, indicator-session as they are not installed by default. Than you have to add for example indicator-applet-session or indicator-applet-appmenu or indicator-applet to panel. | 14:44 |
| alberts | without fix indicator applet session will load other indicators too, but it should load only session indicator. | 14:45 |
| alberts | same thing is reported against indicator-applet-appmenu, but i cannot test it es appmenu does not work on my real install nor on virtualbox. | 14:46 |
| attente | alberts, ok, i'll give it a try now | 14:47 |
| attente | alberts, how do you modify the panel? | 14:56 |
| alberts | attente: Win + Alt + Right click on the panel | 14:58 |
| attente | alberts, oh wow, that definitely broke something... | 14:59 |
| attente | the act of just adding something to the panel seems to just clear the entire thing | 15:00 |
| alberts | attente: no, it is because of indicator-applet-appmenu. | 15:01 |
| alberts | kill indicator-applet-appmenu process | 15:01 |
| alberts | i would suggest to test that bug with indicator-applet-session | 15:01 |
| attente | ok | 15:02 |
| attente | ok, alberts, i'll test your branch right now | 15:05 |
| bjf | in saucy, where did the "Keyboard Layout Options" dialog go to? | 15:14 |
| alberts | attente: seems that indicator-applet-appmenu does not work because of libappmenu.so (appmenu indicator?) | 15:14 |
| alberts | CRITICAL: Gtk - gtk_box_pack: assertion 'gtk_widget_get_parent (child) == NULL' failed | 15:15 |
| alberts | WARNING: Gtk - gtk_menu_attach_to_widget(): menu already attached to GtkModelMenuItem | 15:15 |
| attente | alberts, yeah, i can't seem to get it working properly | 15:15 |
| attente | even adding the session indicator doesn't seem to appear | 15:16 |
| alberts | Maybe it does not work only on x64. That could explain why it worked for bug reporter | 15:16 |
| alberts | did you kill indicator-applet-appmenu process? | 15:17 |
| attente | i did, but it seems to be running again | 15:17 |
| attente | ah, there we go | 15:17 |
| attente | session indicator is back :) | 15:17 |
| alberts | are you testing my branch now? if yes, you should see only session indicator. if no, than you will see session indicator + other indicators. | 15:20 |
| attente | alberts, yep, it seems to work fine | 15:25 |
| attente | i guess that appmenu indicator is a totally different bug though | 15:25 |
| alberts | attente: yes, i think it is different but too | 15:26 |
| attente | ok alberts, going to check one more time with the old version to make sure we don't have a regression | 15:29 |
| alberts | attente: ok. :) | 15:29 |
| attente | alberts, looks good :) | 15:44 |
| Laney | pitti: hello! got a minute for timedated? :P | 15:49 |
| Laney | We just found out in #ubuntu-touch that it relies on using temporary files for atomic symlinks/writes to update the timezone and this breaks in unfortunate ways on the ro phone images | 15:50 |
| Laney | pitti: cjwatson's suggestion is to symlink it instead to a symlink in a writeable directory somewhere and do manipulations in there | 15:59 |
| Laney | Requires probably un-upstreamable code changes though | 15:59 |
| tedg | desrt, Did your patch to "crash" on criticals land in GLib? | 16:05 |
| alberts | attente: thanks for approving. :) who can approve merge proposals in ubuntu-themes? i would love to see approved and merged your branches. | 16:06 |
| attente | alberts, np! i'm not sure about themes, maybe xnox? | 16:10 |
| jasoncwarner | Laney attente didrocks fyi, lightdm was supposed to land today, but a test failed so might not, but we should be ready for it tomorrow | 16:58 |
| jasoncwarner | attente will all your language settings just work when lightdm lands? | 16:59 |
| Laney | w-o-w | 16:59 |
| didrocks | jasoncwarner: ok, thanks for the info! | 16:59 |
| jasoncwarner | Laney I'd love if that timedate was ready to go when it landed ;) | 16:59 |
| * jasoncwarner fingers crossed! | 16:59 | |
| Laney | larsu: I think I'm an idiot because I can't get the bluetooth-enabled action to change state even with the new i-bluetooth | 16:59 |
| blkperl | so bug 1213744 has completely broken thunderbird on my lab of ubuntu machines, is there going to be a fix soon? | 17:00 |
| Laney | I'm trying actiongroup.enabled.activate(false) but no-oooo | 17:00 |
| Laney | jasoncwarner: ya, me too; hoping pitti has some wisdom there tomorrow | 17:00 |
| larsu | Laney: leave out the "false", that action doesn't have a parameter | 17:01 |
| jasoncwarner | thanks, Laney | 17:01 |
| Laney | larsu: If I activate it without a parameter the state doesn't change either. :-/ | 17:02 |
| Laney | code comin' up | 17:02 |
| larsu | Laney: ya, this is the bug in i-power that charles' branch fixes | 17:03 |
| Laney | no I installed that | 17:03 |
| larsu | oh, then it might be a bug in qml, I haven't tested that yet | 17:03 |
| larsu | s/qml/qmenumodel | 17:03 |
| Laney | hrhr | 17:03 |
| Laney | well, maybe it's a problem with me | 17:03 |
| alberts | who knows why there is no network indicator icon in gnome-session-flashback? | 17:04 |
| Laney | http://paste.ubuntu.com/6146339/ | 17:04 |
| larsu | Laney: does the state change with `gdbus call --session --dest com.canonical.indicator.bluetooth --object-path /com/canonical/indicator/bluetooth --method org.gtk.Actions.Activate bluetooth-enabled [] {}`? | 17:04 |
| Laney | nein | 17:05 |
| Laney | maybe that indicates I didn't install it correctly | 17:05 |
| larsu | Laney: note that there's also still a bug in g-c-c. The switch behaves weirdly | 17:05 |
| larsu | and sometimes resets the state | 17:05 |
| * Laney nods | 17:05 | |
| Laney | I haven't been using that though | 17:06 |
| larsu | hm, weird | 17:06 |
| Laney | give me a second | 17:06 |
| attente | jasoncwarner, is this the phone? because the MP still hasn't been merged yet... | 17:08 |
| Laney | I'm just approving that! | 17:09 |
| attente | oh. ha, thanks Laney :) | 17:10 |
| alberts | attente: why ps-jenkins failed approve merge proposal for indicator-applet? | 17:13 |
| attente | alberts, not sure, it just says there's a problem with the GPG signature | 17:14 |
| Laney | attente: Maybe not; missing whatever Depends to provide com.canonical.keyboard.maliit | 17:14 |
| Laney | larsu: got the new one with the patch from charles now and it still doesn't toggle unfortunately :( | 17:17 |
| attente | Laney, sorry, the branch that provides that hasn't been merged into the ubuntu-keyboard | 17:17 |
| Laney | attente: ah, well that'll be needed then | 17:17 |
| Laney | apply ze pressure | 17:17 |
| charles | I don't think the change to i-bluetooth is the problem | 17:17 |
| attente | Laney, sure :) | 17:18 |
| Laney | I got the impression that the activating it from gdbus worked for larsu but maybe not | 17:18 |
| larsu | Laney: yes, it does work for me. What does `gdbus call --session --dest com.canonical.indicator.bluetooth --object-path /com/canonical/indicator/bluetooth --method org.gtk.Actions.Activate bluetooth-enabled | 17:18 |
| larsu | oops | 17:18 |
| larsu | wrong copy/paste | 17:19 |
| larsu | what does all of that above with s/Activate/Describe return? | 17:19 |
| Laney | ((true, signature '', [<true>]),) | 17:19 |
| larsu | okay, so bluetooth is on for you right now? | 17:20 |
| larsu | (last member of that tuple is the state) | 17:20 |
| Laney | yeah | 17:20 |
| larsu | and if you now call Activate, does that return any error? | 17:20 |
| larsu | of not, what des Describe return after calling Activate? | 17:20 |
| alberts | attente: and what next? now it says needs review... | 17:20 |
| Laney | oh, hang on | 17:21 |
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| Laney | I was accidently calling it over ssh | 17:22 |
| Laney | to my desktop which doesn't have bt hardware | 17:22 |
| attente | alberts, i'm not sure, i think it's just a hiccough with jenkins | 17:22 |
| jasoncwarner | attente: yes, the phone. what is holding up the MP from being merged? | 17:22 |
| jasoncwarner | oh, didn't see laney was on that. | 17:22 |
| Laney | seems to work on my laptop with old i-bluetooth | 17:23 |
| Laney | so with no hardware you can try to activate the action but it'll never change | 17:23 |
| larsu | sounds like a bug :) | 17:24 |
| larsu | charles: ^^ | 17:24 |
| charles | Laney, is /dev/rfkill writable on your system? | 17:25 |
| Laney | my user has an rw acl | 17:25 |
| charles | k | 17:25 |
| Laney | anyway, yay; it seems to work on my laptop | 17:26 |
| larsu | \o/ | 17:26 |
| jasoncwarner | attente didn't quite follow the thread, will the language and keyboard settings be ready when lightdm lands tomorrowish? | 17:26 |
| Laney | nice, seems to hide correctly too | 17:28 |
| Laney | will MP that tomorrow if location works as well and it works on the device | 17:29 |
| Laney | jasoncwarner: attente said it's waiting for a branch to get merged into ubuntu-keyboard | 17:29 |
| jasoncwarner | didrocks slangasek says the download service should land tomorrow. can you get with him and barry etc to know what we would need to do to update the updater? | 17:29 |
| attente | jasoncwarner, i don't think it will... | 17:29 |
| jasoncwarner | Laney attente is there a specific branch? i'll start poking people | 17:29 |
| attente | jasoncwarner, it's this one: https://code.launchpad.net/~attente/ubuntu-keyboard/gsettings-schema/+merge/185121 | 17:30 |
| attente | but the problem is, if it hasn't been merged yet, i doubt those settings are being used by maliit | 17:30 |
| * Laney is off for now, see you | 17:30 | |
| jasoncwarner | attente who needs to merge it? | 17:31 |
| attente | jasoncwarner, tmoenicke | 17:31 |
| charles | https://code.launchpad.net/~charlesk/ubuntu-system-settings/bluetooth-plugin/+merge/186957 is finally passing jenkins | 17:34 |
| charles | who has a headset s.t. they can do a full review? :) | 17:34 |
| charles | Laney did a good partial review wrt code inspection | 17:35 |
| attente | alberts, i'll see if i can trigger a rebuild | 17:37 |
| alberts | attente: ok, thanks! | 17:37 |
| attente | alberts, sorry, looks like i can't do it myself, we'll have to look for someone else to do it :( | 17:43 |
| alberts | attente: do you know who can do it? I am new here, so I don't know anyone. | 17:46 |
| bjf | in saucy, where did the "Keyboard Layout Options" dialog go to? | 18:04 |
| robru_ | mterry, no, haven't heard from zoltan | 18:28 |
| mterry | robru_, I poked him in #ubuntu-touch earlier, he didn't reply | 18:28 |
| robru_ | mterry, today? bah. quite the vacation! | 18:29 |
| ogra_ | i see him talking in ci-eng | 18:29 |
| robru_ | mterry, which bug was it again? | 18:30 |
| robru_ | mterry, actually I just got his attention in #canonical | 18:30 |
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| attente | fginther, hi, do you know who can trigger a rebuild of this? https://jenkins.qa.ubuntu.com/job/indicator-applet-saucy-amd64-autolanding/7/console | 20:36 |
| fginther | attente, if you re-approve the merge proposal, it will re-run. | 20:37 |
| attente | fginther, oh, ok, thanks! | 20:37 |
| dupondje | Any idea's why my cursor would keep blinking when something redraws (its very noticable when playing audio in audacious). | 20:56 |
| dupondje | Known bug in Saucy ? | 20:56 |
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| bjf | in saucy, where did the "Keyboard Layout Options" dialog go to? | 23:46 |
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